#h1-for-new-players
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heyyy quick q, anyone have any advice for dealing w the witches circle? thx
an easy solution probably involves taking Athena boons esp. Divine Dash
hmm I see
attacks can delete bullets so something like bow's special can help clearing them away
Is there a way to get diamonds besides your first clear with a weapon?
You can trade with the big shade in the lounge. It's like 10 nectar ?
Broker, fishing
@frosty basin achievements are retroactive if they're tied to a non-repeatable event like the fated list ones, if it was something like the 'pet cerberus 10 times' one though, they'd have to fulfill the conditions of that achievement
Oh glad to hear they can be completed retroactively

thanks
Is there a way to get diamonds besides your first clear with a weapon?
||use Pact of Punishment and raise the heat to get new bounties|| (if you have not yet won a run, please don't click)
@violet scroll best way to deal with witches circle without deflect is to dash behind one of the outer witches (I usually go for top left) so you're facing them and the rest of the circle and use a combination of your dash and your fastest attacks to simultaneously deal damage and break the projectiles, rinse and repeat. going for the middle one first is a trap without deflect
Hello
At the temple of Styx
There are two powers up, one cost 300g, another cost 100g
Does the more expensive one offer something better?
Or is it just that the gold cost is RNG?
300 ones level up twice
for boons, it means higher rarity
If I read the wiki correctly
anvil removes one hammer upgrade, add two upgrades
all random
^ sometimes its good. sometimes it can really mess with you
be a little breakneck sometimes :>
I wonder if the anvil can fulfill prophecies
Can
But as we know, some upgrades are incompatible with other upgrades
It reduces trap damage by 75% meaning you take 25% of the damage.
thats really good lol
It gets up to 95% IIRC if you can get it to Heroic rarity.
It's really good defense wise yeah.
I personally am not really a fan of it, but I can see the use
Like ||heightened security 150 damage vase||
Yeah basically anything past 1st run Styx is considered a spoiler in this channel
My sincerest apologies.
If I start with certain god's trinket, does it increase the probability of getting that god's boon
Yes, the boon in the first room will always be from that god then
Maybe it can also be a hammer, not sure
I've found it to be about a 75 / 25 that it will either be that god or the hammer.
and then that god trinket also makes it more likely for each boon choice to be rare or better
I just failed to beat Hades
1st time
I restarted my run, I chose poisoden trinket, I get demeter first boon
Do spoiler tag the final boss
It can happen @amber yoke
How many phases does the final boss have
and yeah, it happens. Beating redacted first try is really hard
It's kinda nice, I just unlocked ice, I never seen it before
maybe it's an unlock for me reaching final boss (my father) for the first time
Oh yeah you're right, you might've hit a story point that forces her to appear
That would be like the one exception when the god trinket doesn't work
||Hades has, 2 invulnerability phases in the first " phase " and another 2 in his second " final " phase.||
I see
Next and any following runs should work as normal, giving you either that god or a hammer
After beating my father, is that the end of the escape?
Hades is a game about playing through it many times, the story will reflect that
So it is right?
Yes, for that run
cool

first redacted clear is really just the beginning
How do I ||get more blood once I've killed meg with all weapons?||
Would "new player" apply if I've never beat ||Hades||
Final boss gives one too
After that you need ||to apply post clear unlock "pact of punishment" for more blood from meg and hades||
ohhhh right
Also the broker and, ||fishing on the surface||
So beat the game and then do it harder
Ye
Also how do I unlock ||fishing||
I've seen people do it but I haven't unlocked it yet
You need
Reach Temple of Styx
Fountain Chamber, Tartarus
Fated List of Minor Prophecies
Then it should be available from the house contractor for one diamond
Is the temple of Styx in the fountain chamber?
It's the last area
Ohhhh
I still haven't beaten the ||bull and Theseus||
That's why I want more ||blood lol||
I've gotten really close tho
I thought you did, because you said you haven't beaten ||hades|| lol
not really new player help but I can't seem to ||unlock 4th aspects. ive beaten the game, i have about 30 runs and 15 clears andi didn't get the spear yet||
||Spear is so good tho||
||wouldn't know D:||
@rustic crag talk to achilles
keep doing it š
Check the pins in #h1-story-discussion
Then you have rng problem
I've gotten to like the last sliver of health and then he deals 20 DMG with ||his spear||
yikes
:(((
or you don't have the requirements yet
Yeah you might have a lot of dialogue backed with with Achilles, if so it can take a few runs to get to the correct line
yeah but its weird. ive never not talked to him
Worst case you could try doing a few suicide runs in Tartarus to try to trigger it
that was my plan
if you're sure you've spent 6 blood in aspects and beaten the final boss
Is the temple of Styx ||the maze area, cos I've seen a friend get there||
yeah. some gods like ||zeus triggered their 4th aspect conversations with me already. can't get them tho since spearman hates me D:||
||Spearman loves me :3||
Maybe you have it already?
I'm running Eris Gun and I have Zeus attack + Poseidon dash. Aphrodite just popped up with Special, cast and different league. what should I choose? they're all epic
I'd say special if you hit them bombs
yea its between special and DL for me, just wanted to hear the logic so i can learn
Hellmode is default to 5 heat
special 100% imo
How do I get more titan blood
one thing that popped into mind was: is Aphro the highest +% special damage?
Ye
yup
(but i guess even if she isn;t, maybe not worth rerolling since i got it my 3rd boon)
aphro has the highest +% damage for everything
How do I get more titan blood
@amber yoke beat first + last boss = 2 per weapon per heat setting. trade ambrosia's for it, or buy it with keys as a special deal. there are some Fates unlock rewqards too
the only exception is cast (where dio is higher) and call (because her call doesnāt do damage normally; dio is highest again)
anyway ty guys
@amber yoke ||if youāve beaten the game at 5 heat, youāll get more bounties if you go up to 6||
||if you havenāt beaten it at 5 yet, going up wonāt help you iām afraid||
||heat|| is a spoiler in this channel btw
||it is per weapon tho; so make sure youāve beaten meg with all of them||
truth whoops
i always forget what channel iām in for some reason lol
anyway thx for the reminder
i'm a new player
should i focus to gain darkness or key?
how much of the mirror have you unlocked?
key since you need them to unlock all tiers of mirror upgrades
both tbh
but keys are more important
it's 60 keys to unlock the entire mirror iirc so might take you about 10-15 runs depending how deep you go
I'm running Eris Gun and I have Zeus attack + Poseidon dash. Aphrodite just popped up with Special, cast and different league. what should I choose? they're all epic
@sturdy igloo just got triple bomb on my first hammer
today could be the day
how much of the mirror have you unlocked?
@pastel cipher i didn't unlock any extra upgrades yet
both keys and darkness, with a lean towards keys early on, as weapons will require them as well to unlock
thanks both of you 
no worries, hope you enjoy 
Even later on, keys trade up to nectars pretty well. Which is generally a resource you'll likely be hurting for
theres the special trade of 15 keys for blood too
so keys are always handy to keep on you
that's an incredible deal
and always worth taking when it shows up if you have enough keys for it
well.. when will dark regeneration open?
Hmm I dont remember when you get the green talents
keep playing
it's about 10 runs in iirc?
it's tied to a conversation with Nyx I believe
ya youll trigger dialogue w nyx where she unlocks the alternate talents
wow nice
Yeah that's probably why I dont remember, you kind of just stumble on it
just remember to talk to everyone after a run
^^^
so you dont miss crucial unlocks early game
Yeah do a little tour around the house to speak to people, check the trader, get yelled at by dad
ALWAYS talk to everyone
normal stuff
and give cerbs his pets, u are legally obligated to do so
||There might be an achievement for Ceberus pets on the PC version||
Three-Headed Boi
cute pup
SSS tier pup :3
so apparently you can ||be INSIDE hades during his super laser in phase 2, and be safe ?||
Only on normal, yes
"normal" means ||without "extreme measures"|| ?
Yes
thanks š³
I thought you can still do that on ||EM4||?
he hes ||shockwaves how||
oh yeah
Once Iāve unlocked all weapons and the mirror, do keys do anythjng?
Other than respec the mirror
I mean are they used as a currency for anything
Checking if I can safely convert most of them
Other than the 15 keys for 1 blood from broker, the other stuff is cosmetic if I recall
||theme for 200 keys||
Ok thx
well other than broker in general xD
Can someone tell me the name of the creator of the hades stikers?
Joanne
I thankfully donāt care about the cosmetic stuff so Iāll just dump them
I would like to have the hades stickers in whatsapp, is there any way?
thanks but i meant animation XD
I have some stickers bought with points
Me2
it would be great to be able to pass them on whatsapp XD
I guess you can fiddle with the steam code and get them
I tried but I don't understand why it's PNG
these are link that happened from steam and they are animated images but they are png
Sysiphus tho
Sysiphus
Yeah
Guess it's a problem with discord
@prime stump yo my man can you skip me that Sysiphus png?
Lmfao
Lmfao
me too
He made it
ok stoneboy
A successful rite
and who helps me XD
Interested in Hades Modding?
Join the Hades Modding discord now!
https://discord.gg/KuMbyrN
Maybe ask here?
Maybe
I dont think anyone can
thx bro
Best of luck
Bruh, I bought Hades like 2 days ago, heard good things about Pyre, so I added it to my cart, saw that Transistor and Bastion are like 3 bucks each, and then I ended up buying all 4 games
I spent around 23ish dollars on all 4 games
I'm gonna pick up the prior SGG games whenever I decide I need a break from Hades. Hades is so good it sold me on... the whole company xDD
I got Enter the Gungeon two days ago. Then yesterday I got a switch e-shop gift card for 10$ and bought Hades for 10$. I got 2 rougelikes in 2 days wow
Prepare to lose all your time
just gotta get Slay the Spire and u have the whole trinity š
I was trying to explain what a rougelike is to my younger brother and I said "When you die you start all the way back" and he said "oh yeah do Mario is a rougelike" Lol

Kaizo Mario flashbacks
Lmfao
Ha
Mario is the original roguelike
Tetris? That block rng. T.T
Rogue is the original roguelike
yep
What
Gimme
XD
Love the steam stickers
Please guys just take my soul I don't have any else im sorry
is not png is APNG
dum Dum DUM
Awesome job m8
I need to buy more than the Than and Meg ones.
I just wanted puppy
hot take: the actual game rogue
SUCKS
I cant imagine even when it came out was it ever fun
Get out of here
I haven't! i'm still playing it! stop talking about it!
go away! you are no longer a new player!
I wasn't for a long time
I lurk in here to answer questions
you old assz boy, go to the real channels
you're a phony!!!


So are dio and alpha
i am a sentient being, time is irrelevant to me, i might be a new player tomorroe
i too am new with new game i called hades
X
Were all new players
^ deep
hur dur, for how should i commit an atrocities to enact revenge for this so called figure i called "dad"?
Just git gud
Don't get hit
what a blasphemy this main character had done, all they do sleep lie and eat hot chips

Man this game makes me salty when I have a cool fun combo going and then just die from my own stupidity
Poseidon dash wave + hermes extra dashes is a fun time
No matter how stupid you think you are, I'm worse. I grabbed a || Chaos || boon that lowered my speed for 3 encounters right before a boss battle
I just did something similar
Oh I've done that
Had a great build going and then ate a ton of projectiles in elysium
I guess I just need Athena dash lol
I literally will never not take a chaos boon no matter how obviously suicidal it is
Related: I have died from cursed chests in Dead Cells dozens of times
Hey if it gives +damage in whatever my main damage source is, any drawback is probably worth it
If I grab one that damages me from using Attack or Cast, I'll just spam special in the next few rooms
No matter how stupid you think you are, I'm worse. I grabbed a || Chaos || boon that lowered my speed for 3 encounters right before a boss battle
@leaden whale Get in the habit of checking the chamber number before going down a Chaos gate!
there is a simple rule in Hades
If you grab a ||chaos attack curse|| then the boss will show up at 1 encounter left.
No matter how careful I be it always happens, every dang time. T_T
Always important to check what the counter on the specific debuff is, there is both "chamber" and "encounter"
Chamber counts anything like shops and fountain rooms afaik
While encounter is only rooms with enemies
Is it possible to get to and beat the final boss without boons? By this I mean mostly washing them off/selling them after every area
That'd be hard, but maybe it's possible with some level 5 aspects and Sysiphus' keepsake
Also, I assume you'd be buying all the Centaur Hearts in that case, so you'd have like 500 HP
Naturally
Unfortunately, depending on how Styx works out, you might be forced to take a boon or two
I never thought I'd hear the words "Unfortunately" and "take a boon or two" together
Would you consider Well of Charon buffs to be boons in this instance? 
I don't think so
someone has beaten the game without boons kinada
they finished with a ||bouldy|| boon
Depends which one it was
In theory it should be possible to dodge everything and slowly just grinding everything down
But yeah, that's probably pretty difficult
Time limit runs might become impossible, not sure
Is there a way to tell which weapon you used to kill which fury?
so I can get the hearts
TB
Oh, yeah need to beat final boss or get ||admin chamber||
Every time you kill a boss with a wepaon you hadn't before (so far only meg for me) you get their blood
To be able to track I believe
hm ok
Once you beat the game once, you will be able to tell more easily
Well contractor has something that can help you track is the better way for me to put it
shrug I guess lol
Pre-req for it comes later, a story element if I recall
Sooooo. Anyone doing God Mode and feeling guilty about it? Asking for a friend
Nah, Godmode is fun
Some people cant win even with God Mode at 60%, dont worry too much
Ok good
Friend's game, friend's decision, np š
I think it's okay to feel bad about using god mode, and it's okay to not feel bad about using god mode. 
What is that?
Godmode? an option to help make Zag beefier
I didn't bother with God Mode, but no shade on those who use the feature. I love that it exists, means more people can get all the juicy story and character stuff.
if you beat the game with 60% god mode then you beat the game. Games are suppose to be fun and if you need a bit of help to have fun then that's fine.
Does the existence of god mode imply zagreus is not a god
I see what you're doing but I think it's entirely non diegetic
the existence of god mode implies the existence of mortal mode
and mortal mode sounds like a fighting game
a combative mortal fighting game hmm?
Mortal mode is you play as a random dude trying to get into hell. you get a normal sword and start from styx. The first room you have to fight Cerberus. If you die the game uninstalls itself and bricks your computer
Trying to get into hell?
Dying would be the fastest way lol
Why would anyone be trying to get into hell
I mean, there are mortals who did it. ||Like Orpheus and Theseus||
||theyre dead||
in the mythos theseus got stuck to a rock and herakles rescued him
getting stuck to a rock was also punishment for trying to abduct the queen of the underworld
They ||weren't dead when they first made it to the Underworld.||
||Orpheus came looking for Euri, and Theseus came with a friend who wanted to kidnap Persephone away from Hades.||
||The friend is the one who wanted Persephone for himself so... he's still stuck to that rock while Theseus made it out.||
||I thought pirithous got taken away by the furries||
thanatos is really kinda overestimating his contribution to the cause
"i risked everything for you!" my guy you got 3 kills stay home next time if you want idc
I don't recall reading that part, Gad, but it's probably in another version of the myth. Because Greek myths be that way.
yeah that's true
e"
why does tisiphone mess me up every time
One question should I start from zero if I don't like the choices I've made until this point?
Like nectar wise and all that stuff
Would give Nyx all the nectar instead because she's best mom
Is there any other use for ||fish|| other than ||giving it to the chef||?
Noice thanks
Itās just as fast to keep getting more nectar from runs
All youād be doing is resetting your other progress
I maxed out Meg and Than first, but I basically just threw nectar at everyone. So many good characters.
Iād give one nectar to everyone first for the keepsakes, particularly the olympians
I unlocked ||Lernie|| :> 
Also wouldn't the Black Shawl and the spear special be powerful? Or does it not work that way?
I ran into a thing stopping me from deepening my relationship with artemis. What do I do?
Also I can't unlock titan blood anymore. Can anyone help?
I just don't get it from the fury sisters
I ran into a thing stopping me from deepening my relationship with artemis. What do I do?
If it's a lock on the heart it means you have to do a "favour" for them, I think someone else can help with that
Also I can't unlock titan blood anymore. Can anyone help?
You'll get more as you go further in the game
I found out that ||Than|| doesn't stop to talk if you win against him 
I swear if he isn't at the house when I die ||or beat Hades
|| imma get angri 
He should be there.
My last run (43) was the first time I saw him there (not interacting with another character) 
And online says he isn't guaranteed to show up after a run-in with him 
I found out that ||Than|| doesn't stop to talk if you win against him
@static anvil
Try to talk to ||Than before you take the heart maybe? i think that has worked for me a few times.||
Need to go to house
@static anvil
Try to talk to ||Than before you take the heart maybe? i think that has worked for me a few times.||
@west meadow
Afraid that's what I was doingI didn't get the prompt to talk to him ;-; he just said take it and dipped
You dont always get a prompt to talk to Than mid-run, especially later on
He's ||hurt you just left and didn't say goodbye.||
I got zeus attack boon with the artemis send a lil missle when you attack boon
On twin fists
Was pretty fun machine gunning everything down, my first run with twin fists where I didn't struggle with bosses lol
Are there other good flat damage attack boons like that for twin fists or rail?
Dionysus
Congrats MothEyez
You're not really done with one escape, you need 10
yeah ive heard lol
should i just make a new profile with hell mode off? it took me around 20 attempts fpr my first clear
Besides hellmode's an all new file, why farm all over. It just ||pact of punishment on heat level5 right off the bat||
Which you have access to in normal mode now too
oh im already in hell mode
imo hell mode isn't worth it in the first place, but now you're at the point of convergence where hell mode's difficulty... doesn't really mean much
i have so much trouble when i get to the 3rd realm boss
it's purely early game difficulty, now it simply manifests as ||inflexibility in pact modifier choice||
Ah like that I see, well whatever floats your boat MothEyez, but I'd not start a new file when both are not too different
Well Onyx better explained than I did
uhhhh, one sec
do you guys have any tips for the 3rd realm boss?
@dense dust Dont get hit
when theseus spins or throws, he always walks away from your position, turning his back towards you. things that say they pierce will go through his shield. whenever he calls for aid, he is vulnerable from all angles and is basically a sitting duck
spins will always occur in melee. at range he'll throw his spear, which has a very clear audio cue and visual telegraph (dash a little after the reticle turns bright red)
his purpose is to facetank your attacks and be annoying while asterius pummels you into the ground. it's a fight that teaches you to have quick reaction times and tests your knowledge of boss patterns by throwing two of them at you
his tag-team attack (bull horn) has a telegraph in that he will call out to asterius beforehand and slowly walk towards the bull. however, in the heat of combat, this can be hard to see/hear, so keep your eye out
which should i take out first?
generally Asterius
^
There is a minority that would go for Theseus first though
for a challenge i try to take down both at the same time, purely bc it's satisfying š
If you're good enough to take down Theseus first, you dont really need to be asking for tips in this channel imo
always stay behind asterius, you need to learn his attack patterns
thanks guys! love this game and this community so far is awesome
when theseus is being annoying to all hell, you need to have asterius down pat so you can keep the damage up on the bull while avoiding theseus's attacks
I recommend taking a Call that grants invulnerability for Theseus' second phase
It really helps you out
this generally means always staying behind asterius, and always anticipating a leap attack (which means dashing behind asterius again)
always stand behind bull man
none of his attacks hit behind him (maybe one of his shockwaves does? but thats really telegraphed)
I have issues with ||Hades||, idk what to do on the second phase
Pray
what about it don't you know
its mostly the same as the first phase, with like two extra moves to worry about (||but he doesnt turn invisible anymore||)
so you should just do the same thing as you did before
For the ||all around beam|| get cover or get uncomfortably close to him
And you don't have to worry about|| any more summoned minions|| either
For the ||all around beam|| get cover or get uncomfortably close to him
@zinc dagger OR get Ares/Athena/Poseidon call and just slam through it
aphro call works too
For the ||all around beam|| get cover or get uncomfortably close to him
@zinc dagger
This is what I was having issues with, didn't know how to not get hit hard
Just stand behind a pillar
you can dodge it by hiding behind a pillar
Prioritize extra dashes from Hermes, too, that'll help with the zip zooping
there's also no hitbox right on top of the boss, so if you're comfortable with it you can stand directly in the center of the attack
but I would recommend just hiding behind a pillar
since it's much, much easier to do
There are pillars?
One on the left one on the right
My biggest obstacle right now is getting more nectar and deciding between a good run and more ||prophecies||
How much gems you got? Nectar isnt that hard to come by if you're willing to not buy cosmetics for a few runs
I don't buy much cosmetics anyway brokegang I try to buy when it sells Nectar for a good bargain
Really? Not for me....
Buy keys with gems... then buy nectar with keys
Keys with Gene yeah
Y'all saw nothing
Ngl that sentence was hella confusing before the edit 
The point is that you can trade gems for every other resource
No the conversion rate is fine but it isn't great. Let the gems come naturally.
Dont you have the upgrade that makes bosses drop gems?
I can't get past Theseus:(
Don't lose hope!
Thank you
Punch him harder
Also! Don't get hit
Sounds like the advice I got when i played hollow knight
To be fair, it is good advice
Which part is the one that gives you trouble? Are you handling Asterius alright?
Dont you have the upgrade that makes bosses drop gems?
Not yet ššš
I can't really seem to get past the first bit of the encounter. I end up taking lots of damage from Asterius yeah
It's hard to not get hit by Asterius, deal damage to him, and also avoid the spear of Theseus.
You should be focusing on taking down asterius first
Just avoid Theseus, and try to learn how to dodge the spear
The reticle will glow red when he's about to strike, so you can dash away or get behind a pillar
Remember! You can dash through the pillars. The enemy cannot.
Yes
What blessings and stuff should I focus on getting? Or should I just take it as it comes
Because rn I've been trying to get a sort of combo thing I've noticed which is aspect of Poseidon + Exit wounds
Dont worry too much about "combos"
Right now I suggest trying to take Athena's Dash and Call, which will really help you out
Just play with what feels strong and fun to you and with what you are comfortable with and you'll get them in no time
what does that lil skull symbol on a door mean
Means elites or minibosses
do u get extra stuff for them?
for blue laurels you get twice(?) the amount of reward you'd get normally
so two keys instead of one, etc
Should be
Wish the added rewards would double too. Getting two dice per elite key room would be awesome ;__;
||and of COURSE there's a phase 2. uuuurgh really thought I had it||
You'll be better prepared next time! Keep at it!
Was a neat build. Rail with doom on attack, stacking doom damage, and repeat doom on weak
the reat doom on weak is pretty weak actually
its fine if u want to get that privileged status
well, 0 for 4 but I got to him twice in a row, that counts for something right
does deepening a bond do anything? ||Specifically when you get the little portrait next to their keepsake||
I don't think so, it just makes you officially their friend I think
It's important for later down the line it seems
how so @candid nimbus
They're good to have
Hey guys, what is titan blood for?
how many of the weapons have you unlocked @sand pond ?
up to the gauntlets
unlock them all, do a run and you should find out soon after that
i have the last one just havent given the keys for it
You need to give the keys for it
Hello dear players :) I need some help but I am afraid to "spoil" a litle, there is a section for speak freely about the game plase ?
Then talk to skelly iirc
#h1-story-discussion @lunar ruin
Thank you :) Have fun !
And just use || on either side I assume
Thank you too ^^
no worries 
Alright i've unlocked all weapons what now?
@sand pond go through another run, talk to skelly, he should fill you in
don't have to ||romance|| them
besides some of the ||companions|| you can get from characters you can't|| romance||
@egg @cursive jackal @frosty basin friendly reminder ||companions|| are spoilers in this channel
@queen fiber
So please use spoiler tags
Oh whoops I forgot, gomen
i forgot too, sorry ahhh
How to unlock weapon aspect?
still early in the game?
the longer you play in the early parts, im still there honestly, youll use keys to buy weapons
then use blood to unlock/upgrade the aspects.
blood is from redacted source.
I'm using the Rail
The second aspect is called Aspect of Eris
Which is locked for me
Ah yes you need more blood
Do you have enough to unlock it?
If so you can just hit the little tag on the right side of the aspect to unlock it
Ohh Is ee
Yeah only Zagreus is unlocked by default
hey! Totally new player, never gamed on a PC before and my first game is Hades! I'm having so much fun!!
ššš
what if they use the controller? how bow dah
Is the map randomly generated everytime or is there a pattern?
Ah. I didn't even know you could give up
10 hours later
i still cant beat hades with rails wtf
rails' attack is soo weak
unless you get 3-4 artemis buffs
Please spoiler-tag the final boss or just call them final boss. 
Rail's attack is better with flat damage boons like Dionysus and Zeus, special with +% buffs
Doesn't really benefit from fiery presence, I think
Or Poseidon water gun š«
Call me the Orion Experience, because I'm about the join the cult of Dionysus
okay the Orion Experience
snerk
the more runs i do the worse i feel im getting lol
Keep at it, you'll get there eventually
10 runs in and I was still eating it to Meg
I am blown away with this game! Thank you Supergiant!
I bought this game yesterday and it's my first rogue-like. I have just slain Meg the first time, I love the game so far!
Minotaur rush was the key for me
Very cool dude
Yeah well done
I plataued for a long time after beating the second boss... Got through it eventually tho
god dammit
7 hours, still cant beat heat 5 hades lol
i think the game purposely gives you
the type of boon that is uselss for the aspect you have chosen
Non ||EM dad|| is a lot more forgiving as to what sort of build you can bring against him
i realized how much you can just force against ||dad|| once you get dark foresight
like wow having more boons is good
who knew
I have been turning off dark foresight because I want more fated keys
Too many boons might hurt when pomming so I will purge my lesser used boons when I can
hurts more if you run ||pom blossom||
the issue is that also decreases the number of pom rooms you get
when you could just do fated authority to avoid bad boons
Tbh just give me twin shot and rapid fire on zag bow, that combo feels so nice
That's true though I usually save Authority for Styx
Persuasion can get you your duos faster from my experience but also means if you don't get the gods you need to finish your build in Styx you are kinda screwed
50/50 
how do u unlock any weapon last aspect?
trying the spear for the first time, who are the gods you think do well with it?
how do u unlock any weapon last aspect?
@nova owl check the pins in #h1-story-discussion
Spear really depends on how you wanna use it, but generally Aphro and Artemis are fine until you get flurry stab then zeus attack is very good
Unless you are a madman like me and like using spin attack
From my experience with the spear it's fairly god agnostic
You can usually run whatever and make it work
After all weapons are unlocked skelly should tell you. You spen titan blood to unlock and upgrade them
yw
I have unlocked the bow, the spear, the shield and the sword. However the Prophecies state that there are 6 weapons, how should I get those? There are no other locked weapons in the backyard
They should appear as you do more runs
Okay. Does Death Defiance and Lucky Tooth stack?
yes
So I'll get two 1ups?
yep
up to 3 DDs + 1 from Lucky Tooth at max
+1 from chaos as well, in theory
Yes, but Skelly's DD is the last one you will use
- 1 from Chaos legendary
yep
thats neat
I thought Skelly's DD is first in line?
I think you need to take any weapon that you haven't used yet on a run once for more to appear, but I could be wrong. Haven't had to unlock any weapons in many months.
skelly's is the last
Imagine dying in 2020
so left most icon?
Yes, left-most icon.
DDs are expanded right to left iirc
oh nice
you don't
btw ||heat|| is a spoiler for this channel
how to use spoiler
use || at both ends
You can get more than one DD a run from Chaos if you're lucky enough
Would you say its always worth it to go into Chaos dimension?
Might not be if you're close to a boss.
I don't always take Chaos if the next chamber allows me to get a boon that I can use to build towards duo/legendary, or a hammer/Hermes boon, etc. It's case-by-base honestly
And yeah taking Chaos before a boss is a pretty big risk that may not pay off
|| Is the final relic unlocked by gifting my mother? ||
Hey, I keep dying by those glownig skeleton dudes who throw bombs ;v;
thanks
||dad also gives you his if you gift to him||
Beware the fancy glowing bozos on your quest
i'm mostly a turned based rpg player (othercide, troubleshooter, darkest dungeon) and ive been trying to try bastion and hades out. its hecka intense so i was wondering if anyone had tips for the skelly glowing dudes w bombos
Dash in, one or two hits, out, same again
yeah game is pretty tense lol
The spooky bombers' moves are telegraphed so honestly it's down to learning when they throw a bomb then jump, when they throw three bombs then jump
Atleast thats my take
Also you can't stunlock armoured mobs with attacks as you can with unarmoured
Sometimes I still get caught by their triple bomb move honestly
Yeah, that sometimes gets me too sometimes.
good thing I haven't run with ||HL on|| yet 
FWIW they'd be easier to deal with using ranged weapons if you aren't confident enough to close in for melee
More room for error when dashing out of the bombs' way
The most dangerous move they do I find is when they decide to hold the bomb over their heads, then they'll slam it down on the ground a split second later
Doesn't give you as much time to respond
Oh they might be
they don't even attack outside of their self-bomb move
Oh really? I guess I'm just dumb
I fricking hate Doomstones
orange ones = throws bombs that explode after landing
green ones= throws a (kinda) homing projectile
purples ones = slams down in place (not ranged)
^ for the skelly bombers^
That homing projectile destroys my hopes and dreams with the Thanatos trinket
idk what the name of the one that throws yellow(?) ones on tartarus are
inferno bomber
Yeah you're talking about the orange ones
As long as they have the yellow glowy thing around them you should be careful
You can't really stun them when they have their shield on
Just get a few hits at a time in and keep dashing to get away from bombs
Once their shield is down you can just spam attacks on them
so hit and run?
Yesu!
np! š
You will. It's just a matter of experience.
LMAO
Yeah any enemy with a yellow healthbar (and bosses) wont flinch from your attacks until the yellow health is gone
true 
And I love the romance in this game. I'm still trying to get a rare scene for it xDD
Ye! Everyone is so cute lol
The designs are so good... but the writing is great too!
how can i gain god's aid call stock?
Hm?
The god gauge charges up automatically as you deal and take damage (I think it's hit-based mostly)
deal or take damage
Athena has a boon that grants some before every fight
Hermes has a passive regen
Aphrodite+Zeus duo boon limits is to one bar but charges up fast automatically
Poseidon has a boon that increases charge rate everytime you take hit
It'll revert to zero after every fight
Artemis provides boosted charge gain on crits
and weapons that hit more times like the fists charges up the gauge faster than the bow from my personal experience
wow thanks guys
Charon's well has an item called Aether Net, provides charge like Athena's boon
i have dionysus' now
Dionysis Aid is good, deals tons and tons of damage
Hey whats up with that thing you get for beating a boss once per weapon
Ive got 2 of them and have no idea what do to with it
Unlock all weapons and it shall be made clear
yeah it seems you're too early in for it to matter now
Oh alright
I do like how the combat feels alot like the one in Bastion just a bit more polished, so getting the keys shouldnt be hard
For now just hang onto them, so you dont toss em away at the trader or something
Quick question - do you get anything for maxing an npcās affinity?
There's two stages of affinity with every NPC
At the maximum amount of hearts you can get, you get ||a cosmetic little thing in the keepsake locker||
It's kinda cute
Ty
Super cute. Would buy pins.
I would also buy a poster of the different stages in the game like the one you see whenever you ascend to one
Yeah!
Yesterday I had such an OP bow build that I was super close to beating || theseus || on my first run against him. I wouldāve won if it wasnāt for the stupid || Artemis arrows || he started using out of nowhere
Is there a tip for beating theseus and asterius?I've been playing for 8 hours and still haven't get through
Whenever you see that heās locked onto you, spam dash
Especially if you have multiple
My advice is to focus Asterius first and try to fight him behind the pillars. The pillars will block Theseus's spear.
I unfortunately didnāt figure that out until I had already used death defiance twice
Yeah Asterius should be the first one dying, otherwise fighting both of them with the god rage going out will be rough
@hidden acorn ||you can dash through pillars to stop his endless charge at you. Try to learn their attack patterns so you can dodge them. They all have telegraphed attacks that are similar to foes in Act 3||
got him. attempt #39
Congrats!!
Hi
What do you guys recommend here
I have the aspect of nemesis
With Aprohdite and hades boons
Always Curse of Longing, how is this a question?
Double Nova is the one I think is best from those
I think Dash Nova is actively harmful, but it's certainly fine at low heat
dash nova is fine lol
just gotta know the dash length and itās perfect for safe positioning
Wot da hecc how is everybody getting good hammers
gimme good hammer rng
Is there a common understanding here about the best weapon? I heard the shield is considered to be one of the best
if u mean safest, sure
I thought the shield was OP at first, but now I know it's not as great as I once thought
At first, it feels amazing, but then later on you realize it doesn't deal enough damage to be considered the best
u want great weapons, just look at speedruns
Shield is definitely easiest. Currently, Eris Rail is the fastest for speedruns, so that can be one answer for "best" weapon
My favorites are the Rail and the Bow
my fav is hidden fist and eris
Rail is the gun right?
Yeah
yes
Okay
I really like 4th Sword and 4th Bow. Very fun
how do u unlock 4th spear l
i invested 5 blood titans correctly i made it to hades
i spoke with that guy
i also bought fated list(i think)
@harsh leaf if u mind helping me
You need to unlock five aspects, not invest 5 blood
Check the pinned comments in the spoiler channel
I beleive i did that
so just speak with him and 1day he will give it to me?
Yes
aight thanks :d
sorry for ping xdf
fated list is the place in your room that u do missions and u get things from the missions?
Yes
Hello New Here, just done 14 trials XD
Welcome! 
Whalecome
Ask Poseidon.
good idea
@stable wave
oh lol thereās actually someone called poseidon on here
i should have foreseen this
hey guys any tips on beating theseus?
the minotaur isn't a problem, its just theseus for me
Generally go for Asterius first while trying your best to hide behind pillars
^
After Asterius is dead Theseus shouldn't be too difficult
every time he does his spear throw, he walks away from you. thats your window
theseus only has a couple of different moves, so heās pretty manageable by himself
He just wants to show off for the crowd.
i keep on dying on the part where he gets a gods help
His god calls are random though so some have an easier pattern, that's just the nature of things

He just wants to show off for the crowd.
@nova helm indeed; to truly defeat him, you much win in an extremely flamboyant fashion that puts even Theseusā antics to shame
yeah. keep distance, learn the spear throw timing to dodge/break los
You...Blackguard!
and if you occasionally get tagged by a god, well, that's thebfight
I don't know if I can out-drama Theseus T.T
yeah sadly itās impossible
thatās why heās still champion even after dozens of losses
does pierce go through his shield
the big key is that you have to hit after he attacks, not before. learning to jump in during those windows is key, especially since this is the first fight that requires it
we just aināt got the panache to be champions of elysium
He and Asterius have matching outfits. He even ||has confetti canons in EM3.|| I need Apollo's aid. Give me Theatre Kid boons xDD
I don't know if I can out-drama Theseus T.T
theseus was a theatre kid, it all makes sense
Apollo, why have you forsaken us?
does pierce go through his shield
yep, all things that say they pierce go through any shield
Can I at least get Orphy to strum me an entrance theme? Maybe then I'll have more than one fan T.T
how hard do you think it would be to convince ||meg to wear a matching outfit with me?||
I want Asterius to show up in the house of hades so you can socialize with him
, rip
Being the straight man to Theseus antics must be rough for the guy
how hard do you think it would be to convince ||meg to wearing a matching outfit with me?||
@formal rover You could go to whatever tailor she and her sisters use and change yourself.
Being the straight man to Theseus antics must be rough for the guy
@cursive prism Asterius loves Theseus though.
Also, Meg, the Furies, Than and Zag all have the same greaves. Standard issue, it seems xDD
halfway there already
I ruined a good build by making my bow short-ranged
please let me die in the styx and not to ||Dad|| I can't face that embarrassment 
Ya went for the anvil?
now all i need is a Daedalus hammer that lets me shoot confetti from my gun, and iāll be set
There's no anvil
I ran so quickly to look for it
Also double shot I find is generally pretty cool
also who should i give my nectar after i've given everyone in the house

To make matters worse it's Chiron's bow
oh i was gonna say lol
Yeah, all NPCs want nectar so just spread the love around
including the gods you meet
"twin shot is great, why would you compla- oh. that's why"
It isn't twin shot eitherrrr 
explosive?
The things I do for the prophecy 
Wait, what reduces range that isn't twin shot
explosive is... arguably worse LMAOOO
also great on non chiron tbh
Build advice for getting past Hydra? I can beat the furies with any weapon, but I just dont have the health or right build to kill hydra?
Point-Blank Shot
Explosive shot only increases charge time doesn't it?
oh
Point-Blank Shot
@static anvil That doesnt reduce your range, it increases damage at short range
Oh, well point blank I think doesn't reduce range but just gains bonus damage at melee
i was right!
Where are my two arrows 
Explosive kinda sucks, unless it somehow can be combined with rapid shot, which I doubt
I see them 
300% damage hardly sucks
Twin Shot with 4th Aspect though 


It is when you suck at close combat 
not my favourite bow hammer by far, but itās solid imo
Explosive shot makes it feel like ||Rama|| bow
and I kinda like when every shot feels like charging up a damn spirit bomb
I had twin shot with it once and accidentally killed theseus first.
where is the problem lol
Yeah if you have a very high amount of damage I could see going for Theseus as a pretty legit strat
since his health is pretty low
Yeah but I wasnt even trying to 
the high skill strat is to go for Theseus first; Asterius will follow you so theyāll be in the same place and you can fight them both at once more
itās only us noobs that have to kill them one by one lol
im going to fight theseus again shortly i hope i get him this time 
or if you have Aphrodite aid and just whack him with it in his god rage
he just kills himself with it
yeah all the tracking aoes go on him instead and he just dies
iāve got him to kill asterius before, and got asterius to kill him
but iāve never got him to kill himself
Works with the legendary Aphrodite boon as well, but that one's a bit harder to get and needs a proc
... Maybe I can shoot the crowd with Aphro boons and then they'll love me? T.T
thatās a real prostrat
if the crowd only cheers for zag, theseus would prolly just give up in shame tbh
is delta chamber good?
yeah
It's pretty nice
thereāre better hammers, but itās solid
If you have zeus attack it's particularly solid
^
im running doom
on attack?
Still not awful, but you probably need the boon that makes doom gain additional damage with multiple applications
i do
you should probably try zeus on attack at some point
with dire misfortune, you can prolly get by with doom attack on rail yeah
Well go pass go and collect your 400$



