h1-for-new-players

[warm heart]

I also usually dont use my call until the gauge is completely full

[flint eagle]

like Hades or Nemesis

@warm heart well i usually d the same

[atomic pond]

Poseidon cast is so good!!!
I got the poseidon cast, duo cast with artemis + poseidon, 300% damage when pushed against walls, and it just blows up the entire map
my switch was literally losing fps from the destruction LOL

[flint eagle]

@atomic pond what about bossfights?

[atomic pond]

uh... I lost to the final boss LOL

it completely destroyed rooms though

I've done clears with every weapon but the bow, I just lost 2 runs in a row cause of bow today lol

[flint eagle]

that's most problem for poseidon builds

sucks vs boss

[atomic pond]

it was really good against ||hydra|| though

takes out the extra heads super fast

[flint eagle]

@atomic pond did u try Hera with Dio cast?

[atomic pond]

but basically useless against the final boss

i haven't put in any blood yet lol

i was thinking of either chiron or hera

[flint eagle]

hera is ok lvl 1

esp with Dio

Chiron need to be maxed

[atomic pond]

it takes 15 or 16 to max the non-zag ones right

[warm heart]

OHHHHHHHH, I'm dumb

[flint eagle]

yes

[warm heart]

I was sitting here thinking what that was and I forgot the first boss

Second boss

[atomic pond]

oh phew, i thought i accidentally just spoiled it for someone lol

I think I'll put 1 or 3 into hera then and try again tmrw, thx @flint eagle

[flint eagle]

@atomic pond dont

[warm heart]

I was convinced there was some secret cool boss I missed out on lol

[flint eagle]

1 is enough

[atomic pond]

oh ok nice

[flint eagle]

@warm heart there is)

@atomic pond i mean lvlup Hera makes stones fall faster from enemies

but dio cast do not stack

so there is no reason to lvlup it

[atomic pond]

ohh ok, makes sense

[flint eagle]

save ur blood

[atomic pond]

ill go hera with dio trinket, hopefully i get it from the start lol

[flint eagle]

@atomic pond check 1st room without god trinket to see what god and what boons it is

Surrender and start the run with weapon and trinket good for this boons

[atomic pond]

ohh DANG THATS SO SMART LOOL

thats the second surrender technique u taught me lool

[flint eagle]

1st is aspect testing?

[atomic pond]

yeah

[sterile solar]

Surrender and start the run with weapon and trinket good for this boons
this is cheesy

[flint eagle]

well sometimes it doesnt work

idk why

[sterile solar]

beats the purpose of the game, unless you want to speedrun

[flint eagle]

i had a run when i was aphro in the start

but when i swaped weapon

she always changed boons

[pliant axle]

ay i just won a run check #h1-victory-boasting

[flint eagle]

very wild build)

but gratz

[pliant axle]

wdym by wild

[flint eagle]

i mean it's hera

but there is so many thing u dont need

[pliant axle]

true

[flint eagle]

Heroic special

[pliant axle]

yh well i got rare crop or wtv on demete

demeter

so it just hpnd

[flint eagle]

chaos attack boon

and so on)

[pliant axle]

the attack boon i wanted cause there was nothing else worth

so i chose that

[flint eagle]

@frosty basin had a run with Aphro only

still didnt get leg

i dont need it but anyway

[atomic pond]

what do leg and proc mean?

[flint eagle]

legendary

proc can mean appear or activate or trigger

[atomic pond]

oh ok thanks

[pliant axle]

legendary

and proc is like something going off

i just releazied that gznm explained haha

[flint eagle]

oh my

Secret sword

is

the damage

DAMAGE

[warm heart]

What number of run attempts is average before a successful one

[flint eagle]

any

depends on player

[fervent echo]

My first clear was on the 23 attempt

[atomic pond]

dang mine was also either 23 or 24 lol

[flint eagle]

7

but it was new save so it doesnt count

[warm heart]

mine was 21 I think

[flint eagle]

ok so now i want to check archives

to see my most dangerous enemie

so i'm now 27 loses 58 wins

8 times died in elisium

6 for redacted

6 for secret boss

everytime when i say to myself not be greedy

this happening

[simple orbit]

https://i.imgur.com/khttOzB.png

Guys I got the bow
which ones do you recommend I take?

[flint eagle]

what bow?

basic?

batlerage i guess

[simple orbit]

basic

[flint eagle]

and why the hell u have only Ares

[simple orbit]

I don't know?

[flint eagle]

well

ok

ares is good for Specail but it better have some scales for attack

[simple orbit]

@flint eagle https://i.imgur.com/P4qsovq.png

How about this?

[flint eagle]

pressure point would be my choice

one of my fav boon

[atomic pond]

i always use to see that and be like 3%? No thanks LOL
is it actually worth?

[flint eagle]

@atomic pond it can be lvluped with poms a little

and some crits always make me feel lucky

also if i play rail or fist build PP make Support fire avaliable

[atomic pond]

oh nice, didn't consider the poms

[flint eagle]

also it's 5 for epic

and 6 for heroic

when u have GOOD scales for example Aphro Hestia

and this even crits sometimes

yup that's coool

[atomic pond]

i used to always dismiss artemis crits because i didn't want to rely on RNG but then i tried an artemis build with the bow and crits were actually pretty frequent

[simple orbit]

https://i.imgur.com/azRHgbq.png

Which do you recommend for this guys?

I'm using a basic bow

[flint eagle]

@simple orbit dude are u gonna ask any boon?)

i would take call

[simple orbit]

Artemis aid?

[flint eagle]

yup

[simple orbit]

I'm actually not asking for every boon lol

I have picked up a bunch without asking

[flint eagle]

ok i'm just kidding

[atomic pond]

in the beginning its more fun to just explore all the boons for yourself until you just start to instinctively know which one to pick

[simple orbit]

https://i.imgur.com/R0P7lXD.png

How about this one guys?

For basic bow

[flint eagle]

all looks lame for me but mb revenge

[muted latch]

take revenge I guess

[simple orbit]

Yea

[muted latch]

basic bow is kinda lame

[simple orbit]

That's what I thought

lame choices

[muted latch]

focus on attack and cast

basic bow special is very meh

take tripe shot or explosive shot from hammer

zeus + jolted work well

[flint eagle]

basic bow is ok

if lvld

however it's very.....basic

[muted latch]

yeah it's just a very boring weapon

you dont have many options since the special is practically useless

and it doesnt have many synergy with both special and cast

[flint eagle]

specail is just for status procing

and u can have good Aphro crit attack

[simple orbit]

https://i.imgur.com/wBE31mX.png

This one is tricky

I don't know which to pick

They all seem good

I'm thinking of triple shot

What do you guys think for basic bow?

[flint eagle]

since u have ares

triple looks good yes

[simple orbit]

@flint eagle https://i.imgur.com/5I6O0e5.png

How about here

festive fog?

Or maybe positive outlook

[flint eagle]

if u ok with landing it

[simple orbit]

Safer is positive outlook, right?

Safer choice I mean

[flint eagle]

y

[green tinsel]

hangover special is good and trippy shot is one of the best casts

id go trippy

[flint eagle]

@green tinsel it's just buch of random boons without any good synergy

[green tinsel]

who

hangover got mad synergy its just only good with specific things

trippy shot duos are nuts

[flint eagle]

@green tinsel i mean in build he has now

[green tinsel]

yeah tru

new player kinda be how it do

[flint eagle]

omg looks like i'm losing my streak(

never liked fists

[simple orbit]

https://i.imgur.com/WdaWY2O.png

Any recommendation here?

[flint eagle]

is it start of the run?

[simple orbit]

Yes

I died

[flint eagle]

3rd if so

damn i died too(

[simple orbit]

@flint eagle https://i.imgur.com/BjRKdH9.png

Flurry shot, right?

[flint eagle]

well

i would say prophecy just for prophecy)

[simple orbit]

prophecy?

[flint eagle]

yup

[simple orbit]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand?

[flint eagle]

ehm

u see near 1st upgrade

near letter P

[simple orbit]

Yes

What about it

[flint eagle]

how do i call it

u have minor prophecy list

[simple orbit]

Yes, It's a fated prophecy thing. What about it?

[flint eagle]

and when u finish it

[simple orbit]

I get rewards

Right?

[flint eagle]

u have some reward

[simple orbit]

Okay, got it.

[gusty atlas]

Ownsin: Basically, gznm is suggesting point-blank shot because you still need it for a prophecy, and I suppose the implication is that none of the others are good enough to make the run so much better that you might as well check off the box towards getting that reward.

[flint eagle]

well anyway most of first run are not for victory

[simple orbit]

Yeah, I got it

[flint eagle]

it's about farming keys and darkness

[gusty atlas]

didn't know how early Own was

[flint eagle]

@gusty atlas well he has only 1 dd

i do not think he gone far

[gusty atlas]

haha I just hopped on and sa the last msg, missed all the context 🙂

[quaint nebula]

Woooo!

I feel so happy

I'm finally enjoying this game

[flint eagle]

[quaint nebula]

[flint eagle]

well and i'm beginning to tire of it

[gusty atlas]

sorry to hear that

[flint eagle]

almost 400 hours

[simple orbit]

https://i.imgur.com/z93zhfd.png

Quick recovery, right?

[flint eagle]

nope i would take 3rd

[simple orbit]

For gold?

[flint eagle]

yes

[simple orbit]

Why?

[flint eagle]

cus of gold?

[simple orbit]

Okay

[flint eagle]

afaik it's my top 3 favorite boon)

[quaint nebula]

I had 2 on the hammer where you just hold left click

it was great 😄

I've got two questions

Is ||blood|| tied to ||weapons|| or ||weapon aspects||?

[gusty atlas]

first

[quaint nebula]

And is there a better button for Special? Q is fine but I suck at pressing it and just end up spamming attack and dash

[flint eagle]

@quaint nebula u can change for mouse

[quaint nebula]

I've been thinking about a mouse button

maybe middle mouse?

[leaden whale]

i personally use Left button for attack, right button for special, middle button for cast
it's comfortable

[quaint nebula]

Yeah that sounds good

I'll move special to middle mouse

That way, my left hand is movement only

I'm not that dexterous 🙂

[agile kelp]

Question: Does the total bonus damage from various boons/keepsakes (Ex. Strong drink) affect status damage like hangover/lightning etc. damage?

[zinc dagger]

I don’t think so

[flint eagle]

@agile kelp it's hard to answer actually

i thought all % damage affect only base damage

but suddenly i saw Eris buffes ALL damage

so all it need to be tested

[quaint nebula]

I wish there were actual damage values

+10% means nothing to me

10% of 1000 is more than 100% of 99

yet 100% is bigger than 10% obviously

[stiff scaffold]

I saw some people having 2 dashes without boons, how do I get this buff?

[zinc dagger]

It’s an upgrade in the mirror later on in the game

[formal rover]

it’s actually pretty early in the game

iirc it’s one of the options you can buy at the start (once you have enough darkness ofc)

[zinc dagger]

I was implying that you would get it after the point they are currently at

[formal rover]

fair enough

[quaint nebula]

It's VERY early

you could get it on your second run 🙂

even if you die first boss like I did

and it helps a lot

second dash is such a big spike in power from single dash

[stiff scaffold]

yeah, I just missed it in the mirror

since I swap to yellow

for some reason

thanks

[quaint nebula]

if you want the boon for it, it's Hermes

good luck finding him though

and the third, fourth and fifth dash aren't as good

the reason the second is good is because you have a second chance to dodge delayed attacks

basically doubles you invincibility window

while with one dash, you have half that and need to time better

[formal rover]

Hermes should appear every run, he’s not that rare

if you specifically want dashes from him that’s another matter ofc

[quaint nebula]

I usually get him in ||Asphodel||

[zinc dagger]

I get him in Elysium a lot

[lavish gazelle]

It's always a percentage of your base damage value, so 10% is 10%

[gray haven]

You're guaranteed two boons from Lord Hermes over a run, yeah. Gotta actually make it far enough, though.

[flint eagle]

@lavish gazelle not really

eris bufs not only base damage for exaample

[formal rover]

i think they mean it’s additive, not multiplicative?

which is correct

[flint eagle]

Caught rare fish in Aspho

Zag: "Another flameeater? Pff"

[formal rover]

lol

[flint eagle]

oh yes it's like just 2nd time u see it

but pf not a big deal

of course

[hollow wharf]

Is there a way to reduce or reset the damage resistance from Deus Ex Machina (the God Mode bonus)?

[dense laurel]

nope, u can turn it off in settings tho

[hollow wharf]

I'd rather not clock it up to 80% but I do appreciate the 24% I currently have

[dense laurel]

then just use bronze skin

[flint eagle]

just dont die

so god mode wont raise

[stoic goblet]

🤔 does disabling godmode wipe your resistances?

[flint eagle]

yup

[dense laurel]

yes, u can turn it on back

[flint eagle]

or do u ask will it be 20 again?

[stoic goblet]

ah gotcha, i assumed it would just make your invulnerable for whatever reason, does it only offer bonus DR%?

[dense laurel]

yes

[flint eagle]

yes

[stoic goblet]

and yeah, would it reset back to 20%?

[dense laurel]

nop

[flint eagle]

20 from the start and some % when u die

[stoic goblet]

👍 thank u guys

[flint eagle]

not sure how much

[dense laurel]

2% per death, capped at 80

[flint eagle]

2 afaik

so yes

[hollow wharf]

turning god mode off does not reset it (source: I tried)

neither does clearing a run with it, interestingly

[zealous belfry]

How can I use blood of tytans?

[muted latch]

play more, skelly will tell you about it when you can

condition is ||get to final boss once||

[spring plover]

Hello, do lambent plume stacks stay if i swap keepsakes?

or pierced butterfly stacks for that matter

[cosmic tendon]

nah, gets removed when you switch

[spring plover]

thats good to know thanks

[quaint nebula]

Best keepsakes?

I'm boring and think Cerberus and Skelly 🙂

I like how Hypnos gives you ||a purse||

[cosmic tendon]

early on Skelly keepsake will keep you going. I really like Lambent Plume from Hermes and the Acorn from Eurydice. the God keepsakes are good to have and level up though

[devout jolt]

i usually start with Athena to almost guarantee dash-shield

[quaint nebula]

I only bring Skelly on ||Elysium|| although I should bring him on ||Asphodel|| as I've ended the boss with only 11hp no dd twice now

Is dash shield even that good?

[cosmic tendon]

It's great peace of mind for a run ye, knowing you're safe from projectiles any time you dash is so nice. You can use their projectiles to destroy them too. Really nice in 2nd stage boss depending on which one you get

[fading cedar]

Does someone know how attack speed from Hermes Boon works with Bow's basic attack ? Does it affect charging time ? Or just the animation speed ? It feels like it's not doing much but maybe it's just me

[severe bone]

What's the best aspect for exagryph?

[pulsar frigate]

eris

[severe bone]

How some?

[pulsar frigate]

at max it's +75% to all damage, making it the best user of lightning, hangover, and doom (and just anything with a base damage rather than a +% modifier)

it's extremely versatile and can work with anything you put on it (had a poseidon call once do 1k damage per pop while boosted)

[severe bone]

Wild

But thanks for the input

[pulsar frigate]

👍

[quaint nebula]

I'm going to try weapon 5 out after dinner 🙂

[tall canyon]

How do I give ambrosia to someone?

And btw, any advice who I should give to?

[crystal crescent]

@tall canyon you need to have advanced their relationship enough through gifting nectar to do so.

[pastel crow]

Phew! Cleared a run in 19:22 haha

[zinc dagger]

How is this anything related to being new

[pastel crow]

because im a new player =p

[crystal crescent]

as for who to give it to, there's six characters you can give it to who will give you something in return: ||Skelly, Thanatos, Megaera, Achilles, Sisyphus, and Dusa||

[quaint nebula]

give all your gifts to dusa

[tall canyon]

Thanks! @crystal crescent

[crystal crescent]

oh yeah, and for those somethings you get in return, you need to spend ambrosia to upgrade them

[zinc dagger]

So don’t waste all of your ambrosia on titan blood

[tall canyon]

By the way, should I spend the gems on cosmetic House of Hades items?

[crystal crescent]

up to you for that

[wise ivy]

work orders first

[tall canyon]

So don’t waste all of your ambrosia on titan blood
@zinc dagger already did once since I couldnt find any utility for it.

[zinc dagger]

😔

[tall canyon]

I know

[zinc dagger]

I’ve gotten to the point when I have too much titan blood

[wise ivy]

keep unlocking aspects?

[zinc dagger]

But my rng is bad and I have been trying to get the last three secret aspect I need :(

I’ve gone multiple runs doing exactly what is required and getting no luck 😔

[crystal crescent]

also, if you intend to "stretch" your ambrosia supply, you could ||gift them all to Dusa first and once you max out her relationship meter, she gives the option for you to take it all back (there is no penalty for either accepting them back or letting her keep it all). This way, you could then give them to other characters that can accept them. ||

But in my opinion, ambrosia is pretty easy to get between the pact of punishment and the prizes from the fated list of minor prophecies, so there's no super big need to go this route

the wretched broker also offers a pretty good deal for ambrosia once in a while so there's that

[hot yoke]

Be sure to keep a supply of keys for that deal though

[cunning agate]

yo aegis is the best weapon in the game right?

it feels busted af

[hot yoke]

Its less about best weapon and more about best aspect

Nemesis f.e. is very good

But aegis is powerful

[pastel crow]

Ive heard a lot of people say exa is the best but it needs hammers. I really dont like it haha

[hot yoke]

In the end there isn't really a bad option in hades

Of course there's some that are better than others but in the end
It's mostly about choice/preference

[pastel crow]

That's the conclusion I came to :) I had one good round with exa and was like "oookay I get it now" haha then the next run I fell flat on my face

[woeful ivy]

Aegis? Nah. Varatha

Varatha is my fav

[hot yoke]

^
See

[pastel crow]

I definitely prefer the melee stuff though

[cosmic willow]

do attack% + affect things like lightning strike?

[hot yoke]

I like everything but the spear xD

[pastel crow]

Aegis < sword/fists < spear < bow < Exa

[hot yoke]

do attack% + affect things like lightning strike?
@cosmic willow

Can you give an example?

[woeful ivy]

Varatha number one for me, I personally hate exagryph because of the reload mechanic.

I find myself standing still and not shooting

[pastel crow]

Me too haha it feels clunky personally

[cosmic willow]

@hot yoke like if I get a +attack % from chaos or charon, would that increase the lighting damage from zeus's attack boon?

[woeful ivy]

Fists are amazing, but I find myself taking a lot of damage from bosses

[hot yoke]

Are you playing controller or keyboard?

[woeful ivy]

I’m on controller

Switch

That’s why I like flurry jab I can be nice to my buttons

[hot yoke]

Try mapping it to l

And codex to R3

[woeful ivy]

I?

[hot yoke]

L

[woeful ivy]

Oh L

[hot yoke]

Your left trigger

[woeful ivy]

I mean I could. Then I’m just playing Enter the Gungeon

[frozen tartan]

yes...remap the reload-button = way easier

[pastel crow]

Fists are so damn good haha I'm on pc, still take some damage for sure but I did my fastest run with them. Only have 3 wins so far but 19 minutes I feel is good

I remapped my special to the mouse so my poor mouse gets abused haha

[hot yoke]

@cosmic willow it increases the damage of your attack
So base damage
I think it's additive with the zeus boon

[woeful ivy]

I like just did ||3 heat||

[hot yoke]

Most buffs aside from dodge and damage reduction work additive in this game

[woeful ivy]

So I’m not the farthest in

[hot yoke]

Congrats man

[woeful ivy]

Though spear seems to be a reliable use

[gritty hedge]

I just completed ||4 heat|| first time

[woeful ivy]

Yeah I did credits before the flame skull stuff

Nice

[pastel crow]

Haven't started that stuff yet, getting wins with each weapon that I like first then I'll go up from there. Wanna get bloods so I can get aspects for the weapons I don't like as much

[woeful ivy]

I did ||EM2|| for mine. Easier bosses tbh.

Well no

The first one is harder

But the second one is just kinda the same

[hot yoke]

I tend to be very careless

So I bathe in the upgraded arenas lava a lot

[woeful ivy]

I mean I play Achilles

[odd forge]

Even the rest of Asphodel is bad enough, without ||EM2 lava||

[hot yoke]

Imo you should work your way up ||heat levels|| with every weapon

[woeful ivy]

So ofc I’m taking lava

[hot yoke]

For the rewards

[woeful ivy]

Nah I think I’ll stay on spear

Master it

[hot yoke]

||EM2|| only changes the bosses arena

[woeful ivy]

I got blue head too-

[hot yoke]

You'll barely get progression rewards then

[woeful ivy]

Meh

I mean

I have a good amount from increasing ||heat||

[hot yoke]

Also getting good with all weapons makes you better at the game

[odd forge]

If I did clears with every weapon each ||heat, I'd never get past heat 1|| - I just can't do clears with Stygius for some reason

[pastel crow]

I don't even know what ||EM2|| is haha

[woeful ivy]

True. I’m planning on doing them one at a time instead of spreading out.

[hot yoke]

@woeful ivy That's a spoiler
Tag it please

[normal flax]

AFIK ||EM2|| also changes ||the 2nd boss becoming unmoored||

[odd forge]

It does, yes

[woeful ivy]

Right sorry

[odd forge]

But what I meant was Asphodel lava is bad - having ||EM2's arena making it more lavay makes everything worse because of it||.

[pastel crow]

I'm definitely spreading it out, need to farm gems haha

[hot yoke]

Well I mean you can obvs stay on a limited amount of weapons first

You'll naturally get better so clears with the other weapons get more feasible

[woeful ivy]

Yeah I know my next plan is master bow

Then sword

[hot yoke]

But variety is the spice of life imo

[woeful ivy]

Fists, then shield, then g u n

[hot yoke]

My favs are bow and shield

[woeful ivy]

Meh I find shield to be a bit awkward to use sometimes

[hot yoke]

But as I said
I only advance ||heat|| once I cleared with every weapon

[zinc dagger]

The only one I still have trouble with is bow

[odd forge]

Repeatedly failing clears and not being ||able to increase heat just because you lose to Hades|| despite acing everything else... is the spice of not giving up eventually 😉

[hot yoke]

Shield blocks everything

And I mean everything

That also
But it's literally hell soooo

[woeful ivy]

Yeah but like, I can just dash through to the other side and bonk them

Repeatedly

[hot yoke]

Or both
But the power of shield is on its apsects

But as I stated
Preference

[woeful ivy]

And throw my spear across the room, wait, then line up hitting multiple skulls with a Achilles dash. But I agree shield is good with aspects.

Spear is good on its own but kinda stays good without aspects, making it kinda basic

[pastel crow]

My first clear was with aegis, first time to the last boss was too. Aegis is consistent for me even without aspects

[woeful ivy]

The aspects feel more gimmicky

Congrats

[frozen tartan]

if only beat ||heat2|| and then do a ||heat6|| run and win it, will it then count as a ||heat3|| run?

[hot yoke]

Which aspects feel more gimmicky?

[pastel crow]

I'm really bad at using the full kit of abilities tbh

[zinc dagger]

Rail is the most consistent for me surprisingly

[hot yoke]

@frozen tartan spoiler tag please

All practice

[frozen tartan]

sorry

[hot yoke]

Np

Happens

[pastel crow]

I believe the answer @frozen tartan is no

[hot yoke]

You tag by || on both sides of what you're writing

@frozen tartan it will count as a ||heat 3|| win

[woeful ivy]

I mean I just kinda think that spears aspects are to change up the style instead of giving it bonuses sometimes. Spear shines more when you have a good hammer instead.

[pastel crow]

Oh really?

[hot yoke]

It should

[pastel crow]

So you'd get 2 of everything?

[hot yoke]

You still need to beat it on the other lebels

Levels

No you don't get multiples

You'd have to win again

[pastel crow]

Or does it default to the lower levels rewards?

[hot yoke]

Higher ||heat|| clears count rewards for that level

[frozen tartan]

thx @hot yoke

[hot yoke]

So you don't lose out on rewards or gain multiple

No matter what happens you won't lose out on rewards

@frozen tartan also you still should spoiler tag

[frozen tartan]

spoiler tag done

[hot yoke]

Thank you m8

Btw in your case it would be enough if you censor the term

[quaint nebula]

Hey. I've got a keybinding query.

I'm not sure if I should have cast or special as mmb or rmb.

Right now I have special on mmb and cast on rmb.

[odd forge]

I think either is good

[frozen tartan]

like this? @hot yoke

[odd forge]

and much better than the default

[hot yoke]

Exactly!

[dusk elk]

i have dash on middle mouse

[quaint nebula]

dash on space is great for me

[hot yoke]

You can change your binds if you're doing cast vs regular builds f.e.
But that's if you want to put in the effort if changing it every time xD

[odd forge]

Yeah, space is a big-easy-to-press-with-thumb button

[dusk elk]

honestly i need one of those mouses with a side button

[odd forge]

the problem with the default special-on-Q is that it messes up your WASD fingers

[quaint nebula]

^ exactly

I think cast on mmb is better

especially if you only have one cast

thanks for the help ❤️

[pastel crow]

I have cast on RMB, and special on a side mouse button+LMB

[dawn trout]

Hiya !

New to Hades, but a long time fan of Supergiant Games -

This game is lovely ! I'm having an absurd amount of fun

[half tapir]

Does forging a bond have any effect on the keepsakes?

[hot yoke]

No

Just flavor text and cute stickers

[copper lotus]

If I switch out a keepsake can I go back to it after the next boss?

[pulsar frigate]

nope, once you've switched out a keepsake, it's unusable for the rest of the attempt

[lyric forge]

No, strictly once per attempt.

[copper lotus]

bleh :<

[copper lotus]

will going into chaos gate change the room offered ahead? I've got hammer upgrade room + chaos gate and I'm not sure if I go into the chaos gate the rooms offered will change

[pulsar frigate]

chaos takes up a chamber, so you're not gonna see those choices again

(unless you take it before a pre-boss room, in which case you're gonna be spat out in the pre-boss room no matter what)

[hot yoke]

Taking chaos curse before boss is the most Chad move

Assert domimance

[copper lotus]

is it worth skipping the hammer room since it should be offered again further up?

[hot yoke]

Depends on your build honestly

[pulsar frigate]

maybe, if you think chaos now would benefit you more

[hot yoke]

Chaos gives good generic empowering boons but hammers often define or supplement specific builds

[copper lotus]

can I get the same boon from chaos again? I already got one % attack upgrade can it be offered again?

[hot yoke]

You can get multiple attack upgrades

Or rather multiple similar buffs in general

[lyric forge]

Hammers are usually not too bad to skip as the game will offer them again almost guaranteed.

Unless your build really is hunting for a very specific one.

[leaden whale]

hey i managed to kill final boss only oncr during my maybe 30-40 runs

but

[lyric forge]

Spoilers man.

[leaden whale]

ah sorry

[hot yoke]

Please tag

You should sparingly exchange

You spoiler tag by || on both sides of what you want to tag

[lyric forge]

Ambrosia for Titan Blood in the beginning is alright. The game will give you way more Ambrosia than you need, but you should keep a stockpile handy.

[leaden whale]

i edited

[hot yoke]

Thanks

[leaden whale]

and whars the point of upgrading relations with every npc

also is it me or zeus special attack boon feels weak especially with slower attack weps

cause it can trigger only once

[lyric forge]

Bounties + Prophecies is like 180-ish Ambrosia (I counted) and will need only 120-ish (didn't count, just a best guess).

[hot yoke]

You get special stuff from some

Like an additional "attack"

[lyric forge]

Zeus and Dionysus in particular are bad for slow, chonky attacks. They really shine on fast, low damage hits.

[hot yoke]

Zeus special boon is problematic on weapons with fast hitting specials

It has an internal 0.2 second cooldown

[lyric forge]

Zeus Special I only really run on the shield. None of the other weapon aspects are particularly suited.

[leaden whale]

but every +% wep attack seems much betyer

[hot yoke]

Zeus attack is awesome

[leaden whale]

why on shield

[pulsar frigate]

eh, there are very few fast specials that actually go past the .2 second mark

[leaden whale]

zeus attack is great

[lyric forge]

Zeus and Chaos shield actually don't hit all that quickly.

[leaden whale]

but on special it isnt

[pulsar frigate]

chiron, chaos, and demeter are the only ones i can think of off the top of my head

chaos only if you shotgun it

[leaden whale]

it does not work with chsos shield, just had run with it

[hot yoke]

Maybe double nova sword?

[leaden whale]

chiron is bow aspect?

[hot yoke]

One of them yes

[quaint nebula]

Hey. When would you pick each of ||Eurydice's|| options?

[copper lotus]

to pass the "Aspect of ||Guan Yu|| " blood requirement to reveal it, can I invest 6 blood into just chaos shield for example? or does it have to be 5 different aspects?

[leaden whale]

5 different aspects

non-Zagreus too

[pulsar frigate]

Hey. When would you pick each of ||Eurydice's|| options?

• option one for when you have few boons (that might be leveled already, so they would benefit more from a rarity increase)
• option two for when you have a lot of boons that are all unleveled, or at least low level
• option three for when you're okay with what you have or want good boons in the future (note that this also significantly increases the chances of seeing a legendary/duo boon you qualify for)

[copper lotus]

ok can someone give me some build/s for exagryph without aspects for low heat run? I'm on 5 winstreak with all weapons except this one, the last 2 times I tried it I lost super hard so I'm not sure if the weapon just sucks or I'm doing something wrong.

I need some direction in which to take this weapon to kill the last boss

usually thats my run killer

[harsh leaf]

Zeus/Dio is good on attack, since adding flat damage pairs nicely with high rate of fire and low damage

Try to always be using the special, it deals a ton of aoe damage

[hot yoke]

@copper lotus please tag gy name

Also unlock reqs are in a pinned comment in #h1-story-discussion I think

[leaden whale]

what will happen if i keep dying to meg? she is really hard
im at the point where they saw how weak i was because i kept dying and they gived me this speacil power where i can call them

[cunning agate]

||how can i fight the lernean bone hydra?||

[marsh ether]

what will happen if i keep dying to meg? she is really hard
im at the point where they saw how weak i was because i kept dying and they gived me this speacil power where i can call them
@leaden whale calls are something you unlock very early, it's not about dying to anything specific. Keep trying, get more darkness, and you'll get through eventually

[candid nimbus]

The second boss, you have to know where the heads will spawn, gotta clear a side so that you have breathing room is what I do

[marsh ether]

Stay away from Hydra as soon as it moves to attack to avoid most damage

[leaden whale]

ok thanks

[grand fulcrum]

Alright, any tips for styx? Those God damn poison rats are ruining my life

[zinc dagger]

Trap them in hit stun

[grand fulcrum]

Hmm, maybe that's why my first trip there worked a little better than the rest. Had poison cast with the stun effect hangover. Ever since that run, with any weapon they seem to just paint the floors

[restive spoke]

Just do big number damage

Kill them before u get poisoned

Ez dub

Or get Athena dash

[grand fulcrum]

Will athena dash negate them if they're already down? Or is it only if you catch them mid flight?

[candid nimbus]

Athena dash on poison darts? deflects em

Oh the big rats shaking? Don't think so, can i-frame through them though

[grand fulcrum]

Ikd what they're named but the green puke the rats shake out

[candid nimbus]

You can deflect them if they're in the air

but once they hit the ground rip

[grand fulcrum]

Ahh. Alright imma try just going for athena dash. I usually try for athena attack instead of dash, but I'll go for that this time

[candid nimbus]

I think you can deflect them at least if they're currently shaking, I actually run spearpoint keepsake at Styx lol

[grand fulcrum]

I hate styx so much. My first true road block. And it takes so long to get there to just get stuffed.

But hey, I have 2 defiance now so that will probably help. Though it didn't last time lol

[candid nimbus]

Nah you got this 👍

For Styx, Posiedon is a scourge up there

Walls go brr

[restive spoke]

Ikd what they’re named but the green puke the rats shake out
@grand fulcrum try to go in, hit them once or twice, and immediately dash out

Also use ur casts

And call

I hate styx so much. My first true road block. And it takes so long to get there to just get stuffed.
@grand fulcrum yea don’t worry Styx is a pain in the ass to deal with

[candid nimbus]

Yeah using everything at your disposal and knowing what enemies do is good. I try to kite a bit.. but some rooms cough cough double sawblade
trap with cure in middle are redic

[grand fulcrum]

I've been having a ton of fun with posidon buffs, double knock with rupture and razor sholes

[restive spoke]

@grand fulcrum i am not sure if u realize but ||when u get the sack, u also get a fountain that heals like at least 40% of ur hp||

[candid nimbus]

Have you reached the final boss?

[restive spoke]

So don’t worry if u get hit during temple

[grand fulcrum]

I have stonewalled at the styx beginning before passing doggo

[candid nimbus]

Ah ok, keep at it you got this! 👍

Dio cast is actually pretty solid in Styx too, as it stuns

bonus points if you can get Zeus duo

[grand fulcrum]

Also, super noob but I only picked up a call once becuase when I did get it that one time, the bar never filled, at all and I couldn't use it or didn't know how or something. But I do know the call bar never filled even 1% through 2 full areas

[candid nimbus]

Call fills up by dealing or takig damage

and resets every room

Some boons can help build it up faster though

[pastel crow]

Yup, use it or lose it 🙂

[grand fulcrum]

Bizzare. I remember watching it the whole room 2x like wtf FILL

[pastel crow]

Athena is good, I really like Artemis too or Aphrodite

[candid nimbus]

everyone is pretty solid

[limber zealot]

Just me or is the ||Hades Aspect|| Spear just the best weapon in the game

[candid nimbus]

Can be

[merry otter]

Just me or is the ||Hades Aspect|| Spear just the best weapon in the game
Comes down to preference, personally I’m a ride or die ||Achilles|| user but if you’re doing good with ||Hades|| then keep on using it

[pastel crow]

Wish me luck, first ||heat|| run haha

Going for ||Tight Deadline|| cause that seems kinda easy? We'll see =p

[flint eagle]

@pastel crow i used blue hearts

[pastel crow]

What I didnt know is it just adds 9 minutes on top of what you have left haha

[prime nymph]

||tight deadline|| is fairly easy, it adds pressure but it’s still doable

[rustic nova]

Should I focus on a normal save or a hell mode save? Which one is better for end game content?

[pulsar frigate]

hell mode is basically just early game difficulty

how it works is that hell mode hooks into the hades difficulty system early on, which you would've unlocked later in a normal save

which means that, early game it is more difficult as one would think, but late game it just manifests as an inflexibility in difficulty modifiers

[celest pebble]

unless you're very proficient at these sorts of games, just go with a normal save

if you smash through and get to the end easy peasy then you can manually up the difficulty after that

[pastel crow]

Sea Storm wouldnt work on bosses would it cause they dont get knocked back?

Stuck between razor shoals or sea storm

[tough girder]

for the athena boon that gives you resistance to trap damage, do any of ||hades' pots and skulls|| count as traps?

[pastel crow]

@tough girder Mark as spoiler please || around the phrases or words that spoil.

[flint eagle]

@tough girder green urnes counts as trap

skull waves not iirc

[mellow orbit]

I'm in love with this game super addictive

[rustic nova]

@pulsar frigate I see, thanks. But there's like new content in hell mode? Like a new punishment or late game for both saves are the "same"? (not counting with the inflexibility modifiers)

[pulsar frigate]

the only thing hell mode adds is an exclusive difficulty modifier (Personal Liability: Your invulnerability shield that activates when you take a large amount of damage is disabled)

other than that, it's pretty much the same

[grand fulcrum]

Wooo finally got past cerb! With 300 hp and 2 defiance left. Let's gooo

[rustic nova]

Aw that's sad. Wish i knew that earlier, now my normal save already have like everything :(. Hope they put this exclusive difficulty modifier on normal save files too, at some cost. Not feeling like play it and unlock all things again

[paper karma]

So are the legendary aspects rng based or you get them after leveling up the other assets of the weapon?

[grand fulcrum]

Fffffffffff final boss just whoopped my ass lol jesus

Had to go in blind for it to be a real first attempt but now I gotta find some builds for that haha.

[celest pebble]

good luck next time @grand fulcrum

@pastel crow what did you end up taking?

[grand fulcrum]

I went in pretty confident haha had 2 defiance only got him to like 30% though. Next tume

[celest pebble]

yeah it took me a few tries - definitely worthwhile trying to learn the attack patterns

[pastel crow]

Ended up going for shoals in the end, deals more damage on a whole I felt

[grand fulcrum]

I feel like it would've went better had I gotten rnjesus to give me the boon that does damage for dislodging casts. Using that version of the main sword

Could've quadrupled my damage and prolly won

[celest pebble]

yeah exit wounds on the aspect of poseidon sword is pretty great

[grand fulcrum]

Yup, I've been getting true shot, rapid cast quite often using posidon but haven't been lucky enough to get exit wounds on the runs I use that set up

[wintry mulch]

for the bugged ||friendly wager||, does it matter if you skip some chances to fight in between successful fights?

[grand fulcrum]

Plus I'm still in the process of clearing the fated choices so alot of times I'm picking not ideal boons to clear those lists

[candid nimbus]

Doesn't matter, just can't lose inbetween

[pastel crow]

Does Lambent scale to the amount of enemies in the room?

[atomic pond]

I only have enough diamonds to buy 1 of these upgrades, what's good to get first? (are ||erebus gates|| important?)
awards gems after bosses
claiming gems gives +20 coin
claiming nectar gives +1 level upgrade
claiming keys gives you one extra reroll
claiming darkness gives +5 max health
unlock|| erebus gates||

[wintry mulch]

@candid nimbus thanks

[candid nimbus]

Apparently Lambent plume scales with difficulty of a room... not sure the formula

[pastel crow]

||Erebus gates|| cant be entered unless on ||heat level 5 or higher|| so ignore that one

I went for max health on darkness

cause I go for darkness pretty much always

[candid nimbus]

I like gems after bosses

[pastel crow]

It also means I spend less rooms on health upgrades as a result but its preference. Ideally you want all of them haha

[atomic pond]

oh yeah, darkness sounds good
for the rerolls from keys, does it go over the amount you got from the mirror or max out at how much u unlocked with the mirror?

[candid nimbus]

As you can find 100 gems for diamond trade sometimes

go over

it's pretty nice

[next merlin]

What is heat levels?

[candid nimbus]

Gotta beat the final boss to learn more

[pastel crow]

Spoiler please 🙂 || on either side

[atomic pond]

for the gems after bosses upgrade, how many gems do u actually get?

[cunning agate]

whats the point of the cast? i feel like it does no damage and its kind of useless

[candid nimbus]

Cast builds are amazing

There's some synergy with mirror

[celest pebble]

yeah i like the darkness +hp option from the contractor

yeah once you get access to more than 1 cast, you can basically clear most of tartarus with just your cast

i quite like getting artemis on cast as the seeking +dmg +crit cast is really nice

[candid nimbus]

Dio cast is nice for melee

Or really in general

[celest pebble]

yeah i just did a run with dio cast and it was amazing

i had some zeus in with it and got ||the duo boon with lightning in the dio cast fog|| and it was glorious

[candid nimbus]

Dio cast has 2 nice duos

I like Zeus' jolted a lot

[celest pebble]

yup love zeus jolt and love when you can get it to last 10s

[pastel crow]

Okay bare with me here, Aspect of Zeus on Aegis, special is whirly thing. Hangover on special, or more damage and can deflect on special? xD

[candid nimbus]

Lets see, are you going to be spamming special for stacks?

[pastel crow]

Dont need to, it floats around spinning dealing damage haha

[candid nimbus]

Oh zeus, I'd do hangover

[celest pebble]

yeah i think hangover

[candid nimbus]

The hangover upgrades have better mileage imo

slows, spreads, duo madness

[pastel crow]

Unfortunately i'm already in ||Styx|| so chances of new synergies arent happening

[celest pebble]

hmm RIP

[candid nimbus]

Oh, what's your main damage

[pastel crow]

Ive already got it on hangover but got offered the deflect and more dmg. atm main source is dash bash and face bash

[candid nimbus]

Hangover should be fine then for a little more poking

[severe bone]

What's the best aspect for varatha?

[gusty atlas]

hmmmm. So, nobody will talk to me about || sysaphus' favor. || 😦

[celest pebble]

i dont know the answer, sorry @gusty atlas

[candid nimbus]

Oh sorry

What's happening with em?

[celest pebble]

@severe bone i quite like aspect of zag if im being honest - i think you can get higher damage from the other aspects but i like the javelin throw/recall from the first aspect 😛

[candid nimbus]

Personal preference, I actually like the zag aspect personally

[pastel crow]

Also I just wanna point out that the satyr's need to be in the overwatch league or somethin cause they're insane at aiming across the damn map

[candid nimbus]

With a blowdart too

The skill

[pastel crow]

the BS xD

[candid nimbus]

@gusty atlas I missed your messages somehow, where are you stuck at? I know for that favour you need like 3(+?) people's input

[gusty atlas]

pokeuser: ||Both mag and hades have said something, I have a prophecy about it. Nyx has been very silent for my last 5-6 runs, and just decided to give me a hidden aspect instead, though wiki says she has something to add.||

[candid nimbus]

oof that RNG dialogue

Gotta keep pestering Nyx, sounds like you had dialogue priority problems

[gusty atlas]

I mean, || if she was saying other meaningful stuff, I'd agree with you. But she was literally just... nothing. ||

[candid nimbus]

It happens, I think that favour is the longest one tbh

[gusty atlas]

Literally ||last 3 runs, nobody had anything to say||

[candid nimbus]

You do have the ||admin chamber?|| right

[gusty atlas]

yes

[candid nimbus]

I wonder if you need to talk to the original person again

[gusty atlas]

no movement on that either

[candid nimbus]

Not much I can say but keep playing and talking to everyone, ||Thanatos had an opinion on Sisyphus now that I recall, but idk if that's part of the favour||

[gusty atlas]

hmm. || he's been saying other stuff, so it could be rng on him. ||

[candid nimbus]

Sounds like RNG dialogue in general, as I believe you have all the pre-reqs

[gusty atlas]

yeah, I thought so too until I had || several runs w/ an entirely empty house ||

[pastel crow]

Whats the order of trading for the resources?

[gusty atlas]

what do you mean order?

[pastel crow]

Have seen people on here saying to trade up but what is up xD

like blood > gems > Ambrosia > etc

no clue what the hierarchy is

[candid nimbus]

Probably that special trade on the bottom? key for titan blood, gems for diamond, nectar for ambrosia?

when they appear that is

[sweet sapphire]

heya, new to the game, who I am suppose to give the gift?

[candid nimbus]

Give a to everyone. Since you're new I recommend Cerberus and Skelly as first

[pastel crow]

I saw ambrosia for darkness and was told to trade up

[candid nimbus]

The first time gives something nice from everyone

[pastel crow]

Already have all but 2 done

[sweet sapphire]

thanks, I gave 1 to the boat man by mistake, nothing happens or so I think

[candid nimbus]

Ambrosia --> darkness?

[pastel crow]

mhmm

[gusty atlas]

I wouldn't trade ambrosia for darkness early

[candid nimbus]

Charon should've given you a keepsake

[pastel crow]

Oh not me for the gifts haha

[gusty atlas]

buuut I am still early so

[candid nimbus]

Go to the courtyard and check the keepsake locker thing

[gusty atlas]

feel free to disregard 😄

[sweet sapphire]

oh ok thanks

[pastel crow]

Im more asking is there a list or something I can refer to for future trades?

[candid nimbus]

I think someone had a giant doc, but I don't have that link 😦

I don't really know what trade up means however

[pastel crow]

I dont wanna keep asking is keys worth gems or ambrosia worth blood etc all the time haha

[gusty atlas]

So, the non-special trades

[candid nimbus]

I hoarded blood/diamond/ambrosia and only used them for their main purposes

[gusty atlas]

that gives you one dimension

[candid nimbus]

I find myself with extra Ambrosia though

[gusty atlas]

the only other question, is how do you want to value everything that isn't on that list

[candid nimbus]

I trade the easy to get resources willy nilly for whatever I need personally

[gusty atlas]

sure, I find the boss ones hard to get because I can't clear reliably 😄

[pastel crow]

By the looks of it, 10 gems is 1 key, that's interchangeable though limited, 5 keys = 1 nectar, 10 nectar = 1 diamond, 2 diamonds = 1 ambrosia, 1 ambrosia = 1 blood so I guess that then haha

[gusty atlas]

so ambrosia, blood, etc. are hard to get

for me

[candid nimbus]

Oh is that something people do?

[gusty atlas]

people end up with a fair bit of extra ambrosia from the prophecies, but i'd be cautious about it until you know whether or not you can g et extra

[candid nimbus]

I guess if it works

[pastel crow]

So by that, 1 blood is worth 1000 gems haha

[candid nimbus]

I just hoarded like a madman

Still do

[celest pebble]

basically, @pastel crow

[pastel crow]

I dont know if theres any use for keys now though

[gusty atlas]

I would feel ok traiding gems, keys, and nectar up into diamonds and the occasional ambrosia and blood if I needed it, because those are easier to farm

that's my 2 cents

[candid nimbus]

I just sucked it it up and did the grind

Wasn't galaxy brain like you

[gusty atlas]

heh I'nve been trying to figure out how to get blood because I got 75 runs deep before I could beat redacted

[candid nimbus]

Charon shop, broker, prophecies and then clears ye

[gusty atlas]

haven't ever had enough gold for the shop :/

and most of the prophecies that involve blood need a clear

[candid nimbus]

My hoarding ability apparently works on obols too lol

Hm, have you beat redacted?

[gusty atlas]

once

exactly once

[candid nimbus]

That's progress

How'd you do it?

[gusty atlas]

demeter athena duo

[candid nimbus]

Ah, still taking a lot of damage?

[gusty atlas]

and a lot of luck

[pastel crow]

I got my first attempt on run 17, then from 27 onwards, I get to Redacted basically every run haha

Got my first clear on 34

[gusty atlas]

haha I still can't get to redacted every run

I'm on like 90 now

probbaly

[candid nimbus]

That's fine

You beat em once so you have the innate ability

[pastel crow]

Just did run 40 now haha

once I did it once it gave me more confidence than it should have xD

[candid nimbus]

Is dodging becoming more intuitive?

[gusty atlas]

no

[pastel crow]

This is why I play games. Validation =p

[gusty atlas]

0%

[candid nimbus]

Hm, are you struggling to predict enemy attacks or is it your movement still?

[gusty atlas]

yes?

[candid nimbus]

I remember you saying that you were dashing into enemy attacks

[gusty atlas]

no, I said that dash attack w/ the bow didn't work to keep distance

[candid nimbus]

but I felt like you realize when they were going to attack

[gusty atlas]

that was a different claim

[candid nimbus]

Oh, sorry then I must be remembering wrong

[gusty atlas]

because of the wholre disagreement on what ppl where saying w/ dash

I mean, I'm also dashing into attacks, and into traps

[candid nimbus]

Oh that, that was fun

[gusty atlas]

because I am not used to how long the dash is

but also, Im' just bad at games

[dull perch]

how many areas are there in the game?

[candid nimbus]

Nah I think you can do it

4 main

[pastel crow]

im 40 runs and 60 hours in..

[dull perch]

I got to Elysium but how far that is..

[candid nimbus]

Tartarus-Asphodel-Elysium-Styx

Elysium is a big wall for most people actually

The enemies are big annoy

[dull perch]

drat almost was there 😦

[pastel crow]

I started 5 days ago ._.

[dull perch]

yeah the chariot things are really annoying

very tanky and my explosive launcher build fell off

[candid nimbus]

You'll get em next time 👍

[pastel crow]

I hate the cat chariots haha

[candid nimbus]

meow

flashbacks

[dull perch]

i played a bit before launch but i made new save for release

so im still unlocking stuff

[candid nimbus]

Hah same, my new save is still going

so much grind

[dull perch]

i got my first duo boon today

but then i died lol

[candid nimbus]

Happens

You got this 👍

[pastel crow]

Can you ever go out the gate to the bottom right? 😮

[candid nimbus]

The hallway with Nyx?

[pastel crow]

yuh

[candid nimbus]

Dunno, ask the game

I thought it had some story elements

[harsh leaf]

If you want spoilers, go ask in the spoiler channel!

[pastel crow]

A yes or no would suffice =p

[zinc dagger]

Mayyyyyybe

[pseudo mantle]

If you have hunting blades and then get offered like Zeus heroic cast to replace slicing shot do you lose hunting blades too?

[grand fulcrum]

Noooooooo I wasn't expecting that for the final fight, though I should have. I will say though, quad demeter cast with the time extension and damage and tracking buffs were glorious in that fight. Just goofed with the glowy hands. Dang it!

0 and 2 now

[harsh leaf]

If you have hunting blades and then get offered like Zeus heroic cast to replace slicing shot do you lose hunting blades too?
@pseudo mantle You don't lose support boons when trading boons, but if they have nothing to support they just do nothing

You might get another trade later, after all

[dull perch]

what synergizes with sword well?

base sword

[pseudo mantle]

Ah thanks, this was last night, I was too scared to take the Zeus. First time getting hunting blades.

Zeus probably best with sword build but it’s probably the most versatile. Not like the rail which I think does better with dio than a lot of other weapons

[pastel crow]

Wow merciful end seems super good haha

[dull perch]

I find sword so hard to use

but everyone says its a good weapon

why?

[pastel crow]

"anything that deflects triggers doom effects instantly" xD

Just finished floor 3 in 11:49...

13:11 and done with floor 4 xD

[pastel cipher]

Not quite how that boon works
It's "any ability that can deflect instantly triggers doom"

[pastel crow]

15:09 clear

Exactly how you think it works 😮 put doom on something, use special and doom blows up right? 😮

[candid nimbus]

Ye

[pastel crow]

Or in this case, My special deflects, my attack inflicts doom. so attack, special, rinse and repeat haha

[formal rover]

it can be even faster if you use dash to proc it

requires more boons ofc, but divine dash is hardly a bad choice regardless

[pastel crow]

I was haha dash and special had deflect and I had 3 dashes

[formal rover]

ah, nice

extra dash as well lol

that’s the dream

[pastel crow]

It was a nuts run haha

[formal rover]

ME is... well, there’s no reason to buff it

let’s put it that way

[pastel crow]

Noooo there really isnt haha its so good man xD

Can see what I had in #h1-victory-boasting

[west ore]

hey, I have a question.

Is there any benefits to completing/forming a bond with an NPC?

[candid nimbus]

Yeah, there are prophecies and some have more to their bonds

[pastel crow]

I would do one with each first then yes

[candid nimbus]

So share the

[west ore]

thanks 🙂

[flint eagle]

@west ore actually iirc there is nothing for gameplay

only prophecies and achievements

[hard lichen]

(just spoilering in case) i'm up to the ||locked heart with thanatos||, is there something specific i need to do to unlock it?

[candid nimbus]

Probably a favour and/or RNG dialogue

[flint eagle]

@hard lichen afaik u have to win some contests vs Tomatos

[hard lichen]

ahhh, alright alright

[spare quiver]

Tomatoes lol

[hard lichen]

lmao

[stark wedge]

anyone else think the bow doesnt do enough damage? i can kite all day but on the last boss fight it takes wayyy to long to draw, and doesnt do enough damage to make up for the down time.

[flint eagle]

@stark wedge what aspect

[stark wedge]

dont have any yet. though, ive managed to beat the game with other weps without them

[indigo lagoon]

The bow looks freaking cool, but it's hard to use

[flint eagle]

@stark wedge try some good % on attack like aphro

and some status for special

[indigo lagoon]

I cant make it to Hades with bow

[stark wedge]

i had +135% dmg.

it just takes way too long to draw.

with any other weapon, you can spam and evade and do like 150 with chip damage

[flint eagle]

@stark wedge bow let you keep distance

[stark wedge]

with the bow, if you kite and attack, theres still a chance you get hit

there are so many things at once in the last room, not to mention the boss covers like 1/4 of the map with his attac

boss fights are a slog with the bow

[flint eagle]

@stark wedge u can avoid damage with good timed dash

[pastel crow]

Is Smoldering Air good?

[flint eagle]

what is it

[pastel crow]

Your god gauge charges automatically (1% every 0.2 sec), but its capped at 25%

[pulsar frigate]

sa is one of the most broken duos in the game so

[pastel crow]

is it really? O.o

[pulsar frigate]

it’s quite good

[pastel crow]

I figured not having full charge is bad enough its not worth it haha

[stark wedge]

what that sounds so busted lol

[pulsar frigate]

free damage and i-frames every 5 seconds

[pastel crow]

Well now that you put it that way..

[pulsar frigate]

dio call is best used with lesser calls anyways, since hangover caps at 5 stacks and lasts 4 seconds

[pastel crow]

ah I have aphrodite atm

[pulsar frigate]

athena call, used with sa, provides more protection time than waiting for a full call would

aphro call is free charm, and for bosses a free stun, every 5 secs

you can stun bosses out of problematic attacks every 5 seconds lol

[pastel crow]

well snap o.o

I turned it down once cause I didnt think it was that good xD

Also, does favour stack? from ||Chaos||

Increases chance of blue rarity or higher boons

Cause if so I have 60% chance before mirror buffs..

[pulsar frigate]

all chaos effects stack with each other

[pastel crow]

so with the 61% from chaos and the 40% from the mirror I should always get blue or better haha

[pulsar frigate]

maybe? i’ve never looked into rarity calculations

[pastel crow]

Well, all of my boons are blue and purple so Id say yes at this point haha

considering im in ||Elysium||

Wow.. that was the stupidest 3rd floor boss fight xD

lololol billowing strength with Smoldering air = extra damage all the time haha

[ivory ocean]

im so mad!! i went into asphodel w 2 dds and almost full health and i was doing great but then i got to a mini boss and blew both dds and ended up reaching lernie with 35 health

a bad time

[muted latch]

4 witches?

[pastel crow]

Sounds like Ikaruga room to me haha

[stark wedge]

man the rng in this game is mad doo doo

[muted latch]

athena dash/cast/attack completely nullify that room lol

[stark wedge]

how tf are you supposed to deal with poison enemies with melee weapons???

[muted latch]

Dash like crazy

Stack curse of your own

[pastel crow]

I've been wrong before but lightning rod doesnt seem very good 😮

[frosty basin]

regarding bounties, can I get ||heat 0|| bounties if I beat the final boss with the arms in question at ||heat 1|| or I must complete them in order

In particular I'm missing the last two bounties at ||heat 0|| and same deal at ||heat 1|| for like 4 of the arms

[pastel crow]

You dont have to complete them in order but you do only get the rewards for the ||heat level|| you complete them on

[frosty basin]

Thank you

[frank kelp]

@pastel crow no, you get +101% chance

not 101% chance

[pastel crow]

Thats right, my bad haha

[frank kelp]

if you had a 20% chance before, now you have a ~40% chance

basically the #1 reason I always go for athena dash from the start is for the damn witch room

it makes it trivial, lol

[stark wedge]

just unlocked my last weapon. how come i dont have aspects yet?

[pastel crow]

Think you have to do a run first

[stark wedge]

gotcha

[lusty locust]

How do I offer patroclus nectar?

[celest pebble]

wander up to him and give it to him? im not sure what you mean?

[lusty locust]

I can't seem to be able to

Doesn't give me the option

I've cleared 3 times now

[vapid isle]

So I'm looking through the wiki and googling.. I have almost "beaten" the game after about 23 runs. I come from dead cells so.. "beaten" the game.. I get it. I'm trying to find how to unlock the locked keepsakes. Which relationships to grow first. Can someone point me in the right direction?
Had Final boss down to about 20% health but before I finish it I wanted to farm and grind a bit.. But I don't want to waste my time maxing out a relationship that isn't beneficial.

[celest pebble]

how many times have you talked to him? im pretty sure i could offer to him after like 2-3 chats

@vapid isle the final boss fight is a spoiler - please edit with || on either side of that text

aka || spoiler here | |

[vapid isle]

quick fix

Sorry

[celest pebble]

as for your question, once you've given nectar to everyone there should be only 1 locked keepsake - ||that comes after you've cleared the game 10 times ||

[pastel crow]

personally i've found ||hermes|| to be my go to tbh

[vapid isle]

So give everyone nectar once and they'll start unlocking? I've been hording them trying to decide who to give 6

[pastel crow]

yup 🙂

[vapid isle]

Oh damn, you get a nectar, you get a nectar!

https://tenor.com/view/oprah-winfrey-happy-excited-stoked-ecstatic-gif-4771214

thank you

[shadow heart]

even after beating the game 52 times in a row i still burn death defies on the 4 witches asphodel room

its like honestly a complete nightmare

i think it might genuinely be one of the hardest rooms in the game i just cant deal with it

[ivory ocean]

that room is so bad

[shadow heart]

i just panic and start dashing and just take so much damage

especially if im on fists its like ah ok cool

[stark wedge]

dude no joke

[shadow heart]

guess ill die

[stark wedge]

im on that room right now

the kicker is

[shadow heart]

its a nightmare

[stark wedge]

i have the boon from chaos where i cant attack