#h1-for-new-players

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sick anchor
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What a fight! Final boss doesn't disappoint. I believe it's a very fair fight. I lost, but still fair fight well designed.

celest pebble
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If this doesn't win game of the year then there is no justice in this world
@sick anchor the problem with this is that TLOU2 also came out this year and will probably get a lot of votes 😛

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but i do agree

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this has been my favourite game of 2020

rugged inlet
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^totally

versed dune
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TLOU2 had way too much controversy to win it

rugged inlet
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Was a total sleeper for me

sick anchor
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TLOU2 ?

versed dune
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though game awards are hella rigged so idk

celest pebble
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the last of us 2

sick anchor
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Well, some games just are undeniably great

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this is that game

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I'm suuuper picky 42 years ol

rugged inlet
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I kinda kept my eye on Hades while it was in EA, but never really bothered to look into it much. Then I saw it was on sale on release, and now I have 140 hrs of playtime

sick anchor
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old*

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and I work in gaming

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in my humble opinion

formal rover
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you have 140 hours playtime and only started in 1.0

sick anchor
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this game is a masterpiece

formal rover
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that's... impressive

sick anchor
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LMAO thats a lot of playtime!

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i started in 1.0 too

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I have like 24

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but I played it all day today

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and will probably play it all day tomorrow

formal rover
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i have like 300 but i started with the steam release like a year ago

rugged inlet
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I work from home, and it's a phone job, so I get to do some runs while on the clock... shadeeyeroll

sick anchor
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nice

formal rover
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haha nice

versed dune
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roguelikes (ites) are good for that

indigo skiff
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you guys also forget cp2077 is coming out this year too

versed dune
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bet

indigo skiff
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unless it's just roguelike goty

rugged inlet
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I can definitely say that Hades is the best roguelike on my top to date

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Taking the cup away from Dead Cells

versed dune
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i'd say for me; its number one in terms of quality but like third place at being a good roguelite

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(one and two for proper roguelites would be Isaac and Gungeon for me, respectively)

winged gate
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eh

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can't argue with gungeon, touche

sick anchor
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Gungeoun I hated

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I wanted to like it

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however, I don't enjoy roguelite / like games

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but what's beautiful about this game is the harmony of progression and story even post death

rugged inlet
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Never really gotten into gungeon either

sick anchor
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that amount of work it took to have those systems working together..

versed dune
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yeah, hence why i specified quality vs actual roguelite-ness

rugged inlet
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Just not a fan of the feel of it

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Just feels kinda slow and clunky

sick anchor
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If I could progress post death like this I would like Gungeon

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I wanted to like it.

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Risk of rain 2 was close

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this is the stone cold nuts for me

versed dune
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oh i forgot ror2

sick anchor
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but I get gungeon

versed dune
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ok fourth in terms of actual roguelite-ness

rugged inlet
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I should probably try RoR2 some time. First one was pretty cool

winged gate
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Huh

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I'd rank ror2 under or par hades

sick anchor
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its good, and the multiplayer is good

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I have it under hades myself

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of course lol

winged gate
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half of that reason would be me not being able to fully enjoy it because potato laptop but anyways

rugged inlet
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I only ever played single in RoR, so I probably didn't get the full experience

versed dune
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i'm talking as a pure roguelite, ignoring story and such (Hades is first in that aspect)

winged gate
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yeah as in roguelite

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ah well true, hades is sorta repetitive from pure gameplay aspect

versed dune
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as an actual roguelite, Hades has very few buffs (items (barely over 100)), none really synergize unless you get a specified duo, its got a set layout

rugged inlet
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Rogue Legacy was better than gungeon or isaac for me

versed dune
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you seen Rogue Legacy 2?

rugged inlet
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Played it

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It's very very bare right now

versed dune
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yeah it looked like it, excited to see what they do with it though

rugged inlet
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Just by playtime, I think after Hades, it's Slay the Spire for me

desert idol
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Sweet; finished my 7th successful escape

valid shell
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I escaped 2 times yesterday and I feel powerful today squirtdevious

neat epoch
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haha nice, yeah it feels good to finish

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it took me a long time to get my first run, but now i finish pretty much every run, even with bad boon combos

valid shell
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I really want an emote that is just Zagreus holding a gun

neat epoch
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wtf :D

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I am guessing you mean the rail

high zenith
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True, later challenge is not only pact of punishment, but zero darkness runs (no mirror power)

valid shell
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I am guessing you mean the rail
@neat epoch yep

odd forge
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The problem with zero darkness for me would be zero death defies [or at most, 1]

valid shell
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Basically because one of the runs I completed yesterday (the second one) had me destroy ||Hades ||with a high attack speed railgun

odd forge
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It's weird: I find the Rail super situational - I don't like it in general, but if I get specific Hammer upgrades, it's actually very nice. (One of my 3 escapes was in one of those situations, which I still find odd, as I've not escaped with Varatha yet, and I'm more consistent with the spear than the Rail in general.)

valid shell
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My escape was basically with a Dyonisus standard attack speed build which was pretty nice, it basically shredded bosses and thanks to the poison I was able to be more mobile

winged gate
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rail chews through everything with the correct boons, which are sadly few and far between

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with a grain of exaggeration

odd forge
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Yeah, if I get any of the stackable boons, the Rail is a lot nicer (especially with any of the ammo capacity upgrades 😉

neat epoch
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my most reliable weapon is the fists so far

celest pebble
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yeah i just did my first full clear with fists just now 🙂

valid shell
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I actually did a pretty good run with fists only hindered by not knowing that ||Hades has a second phase||

odd forge
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The time I won was with ||Demeter's chill boon, and the boon that makes things that stack to 10 explode||, although really what won that for me as much was having Aphrodite's Call.

celest pebble
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definitely appreciated the +10% attack range on them from the hammer

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but i was also using ||the magnetic aspect (forget what its called)|| which helps

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@valid shell that wrecked me on my very first encounter there, lol

odd forge
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I keep forgetting that ||Talos aspect|| does that

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(and then being surprised by the special 😉 )

celest pebble
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lol

winged gate
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lol

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imagine an arbitrary skull just flies straight at you suddenly and realising it's the aspect

valid shell
boreal gale
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@flint eagle saw ||hades|| for the first time last night ||died in the phase transition but felt pleased at getting to phase 2 on the first time||

daring oracle
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Good luck, he only gets easier as you learn his patterns

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Until ||you make him / the game in general harder||

muted latch
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I took off god mode and oh god this is so different

desert idol
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have not tried god mode yet, i heard once it builds resistance it cannot be lowered

ashen vault
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is hangover even good?

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like, in general

viral elk
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I like to use the call for hangover

ashen vault
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always feels a bit underwhelming, never managed to escape using hangover oriented stuff yet

sand bridge
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hangover is good for fast hitting weapons

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it stacks to 5 and the poms work well on it because the effect is not diminished, you get 1 damage every level

dense laurel
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only use dionyus cast plus its duoboons for fun

ashen vault
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also there really isnt any reason not to pick athenas dash right

shadow heart
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Always pick her dash

dense laurel
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u can choose to get artemis dash insyead

shadow heart
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Its the best dash in the game and one of the best boons in general

sand bridge
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Athena's dash is really powerful. It's the safest dash and it lets you deflect enemy projectiles with just a press of a button

shadow heart
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Youre already dashing through projectiles most of the time to avoid them, so it gives you more damage back than youd think

dense laurel
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not necessarily the best dash, depends on build

shadow heart
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Unless you already have a dash youre attached to

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It's the best base dash

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If youve got a blade build and youve got the blade dash, yeah id keep the blade dash there lol

dense laurel
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artemis dash is better for dash spamming

shadow heart
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Same for anything curse afflicting etc. It depends on what youre going for

ashen vault
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got it

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just picked hangover dash over others this run and tried to go for dio stuff (with fists) and it turned out really mediocre

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i guess you have to get really lucky to get high hangover numbers

dense laurel
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fist can dish out big dmg, get chill or weak instead, ssince they gib big base dmg

sand bridge
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hangover dash isn't that powerful, I usually take it just for privileged status (mirror upgrade)

viral elk
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hangover works well with the attack, not the dash @ashen vault

cobalt geyser
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poseidon dash is the best rooSmug

sand bridge
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not on fists though, that's for sure

glacial salmon
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Is there a way to see which boss rewards I've got for each weapon?

desert idol
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Finished by 8th escape zagluv - it's so sweet when a build 'clicks'.

formal rover
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Is there a way to see which boss rewards I've got for each weapon?
@glacial salmon ||pact of punishment menu will show what heat/rewards you’re up to with the weapon you currently have equipped||

glacial salmon
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Ah great thank you 😊 I'm not at that point yet but hope to be soon

formal rover
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fair enough

tiny torrent
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can i romance both meg and thanatos in one play?

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or 1 save

pulsar frigate
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yes

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there's no consequences

green epoch
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What are the best gods for sheild boons?

daring oracle
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Athena : Reflect on attack

bronze mango
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Reflecting boons are athena, no?

cobalt geyser
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yes

violet patrol
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Sometimes when I start an escape attempt, there will be a "cutscene" showing Hades menacing, saying something, while a single word appears on the screen in big letters. My latest one the word was Blood, and he said something about zagreus bleeding like a mortal. Are these just for flavor, or are they significant in a way I don't yet understand?

bronze mango
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just for flavour dw about it

violet patrol
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ah okay, thanks

formal rover
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they don’t change anything about the run, if that’s what you mean

versed whale
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I'm doing my first low heat runs, is zeus shield worth even with just one point investment?

winter lava
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i got the 5 way gun bomb move, is that any good

formal rover
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if you use zeus on special, level 1 zeus aspect can still be quite effective

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also ares on special works without investment, but that requires athena attack and dash and merciful end to really work

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chaos is the shield that really wants to be maxed out

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i got the 5 way gun bomb move, is that any good
yes

versed whale
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if you use zeus on special, level 1 zeus aspect can still be quite effective
@formal rover thanks! yeah I figure out it's better to hold on trying chaos when i have more blood

formal rover
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np

tiny torrent
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In aspect of hestia using railgun does the power only go for 1 shot?

pulsar frigate
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yes

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you only get one empowered shot per manual reload

stable breach
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Sometimes when I start an escape attempt, there will be a "cutscene" showing Hades menacing, saying something, while a single word appears on the screen in big letters. My latest one the word was Blood, and he said something about zagreus bleeding like a mortal. Are these just for flavor, or are they significant in a way I don't yet understand?
I've wondered about this
even if it was for flavour, it's so
random lmao

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the dog one killed me

glacial finch
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they're for flavor and story

winter lava
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what do i want to do for with the 5 way gn bomb?

formal rover
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in an ideal world, get the rocket bomb hammer upgrade

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otherwise, just put a decent +% boon on it

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it deals pretty good damage

white dew
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What are the popular gods to force for the spear?

pulsar frigate
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what aspect?

white dew
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it's unupgraded zag rn

pulsar frigate
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ah

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well then, as a base on attack you want some damage modifier god (athena, aphro, artemis, poseidon)

white dew
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I'm leaning towards artemis to up DPS for boss battles

pulsar frigate
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unless you get some speed upgrade or something that increases attack speed (flurry jab, swift strike from hermes), then dio, ares, and zeus can be viable

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but i'd save those for special builds

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something like ares special with chain skewer, for example

white dew
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I'll do artemis

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question: If I equip a new god's keepsake between tartarus and asphodel, does the effect still count? like will the next boon I run into be one from that god. or is it only first in the run

bronze mango
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Yeah it'll work

muted latch
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yes

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every time you switch keepsake you will guarantee a boon spawn from that god(dess)

white dew
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this is turning into an ares special build

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which is fun

stoic goblet
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Hey guys, for twin-fists: do you need to input dash-special to get the dash-upper? or can you input dash and then input special for the dash upper? finding it hard to accurately smash dash and special at the same time 🥴

bronze mango
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You can tell if you got the dash special if he doesnt jump up I think

stoic goblet
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ah okay. That makes sense. I noticed seperating the inputs, but keeping them close to each other prevented the ground slam i got from a boon, but still got the slam on just special input

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anybody on Switch have any tips for alternate keybinds that work 'better' than the default? Just curious, i know this is all subjective.

daring oracle
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ZR

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I put dash there

stoic goblet
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was thinking of doing the same. thumb smashing B all the time 🥴

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where did you throw your call?

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on B?

daring oracle
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Whatever’s on top... x

stoic goblet
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Yep, X is top, B is bottom, Y is left and A is right

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then B attack and Y special?

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Ill give this a shot, thanks for sharing 😄

daring oracle
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Something like that.

white dew
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alright time to face off with redacted for the... 5th time?

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so far it's 50/50

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let's make it 60/40

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kicked their ass, only used one death defy

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nice

leaden whale
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So I am trying to get the ||Guan Yu|| aspect, and as far as I have understood the only thing I need to do is have Achilles tell me about it, but for some reason he never does. Do I need to have a strong bond with him or something?

daring oracle
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The name ||Guan Yu|| is spoilers in this channel. Please edit.

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@leaden whale you need to ||have gotten all 6 weapons, unlocked 5 additional aspects, fought redacted, have the Fated List, and then y’all to Achilles. Keep in mind he might have other quest dialogue queued up before it shows up even if you have all the other conditions met||

white dew
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I'm really proud of myself, 3 victories under my belt

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And I finally got a character to open up their last hearts

leaden whale
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@daring oracle Thank you :)))

daring oracle
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@white dew congrats!

white dew
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thank you :)

shy cradle
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Just made it to the final boss for the 2nd time. Thought for sure I had 'em with 1 death defiance and 1 skelly's tooth charge left. But I just couldn't cut it.

gritty hedge
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Final boss sucks. I hate ||his stupid laser beam bs||

daring oracle
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There are a few call abilities that are pretty useful against it

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Or getting used to the cues he’ll use that and getting in cover

shy cradle
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Really difficult! I had Athena's call ability and ||demeter's cast ability|| so I had my own ||laser beams||

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Was using the Blitz Disc too

gritty hedge
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I was using spear trying to beat it first time. I've beaten it twice with shield, because hey you can shield....

shy cradle
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I like the shield, but I can't quite get a good strategy down with it

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I like the fists the most

daring oracle
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Use shield like fists 🤷‍♂️ then hold down when an attack is coming to you to block

lavish gazelle
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you can also just back up and stand between the lasers

stoic goblet
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they track as well in later phases no?

daring oracle
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||Just walk slowly in either the lasers or the all direction lasers versions ||

The tracking isn’t perfect

hoary flame
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u gotta hide behind the little pillars in the arena when lasers happen

gritty hedge
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yeah that was my problem was i was trying to stand between and they tracked me. melted me even with damage reduction

paper imp
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What should I spend Titans blood on? I’ve spent some on sword and fists but is there one that makes any weapon super fun?

glacial finch
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for now its prob best to just chill on it and unlock aspects, see which ones you like

torpid spindle
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^agreed

glacial finch
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then you can invest more heaviliy into the ones you find fun

torpid spindle
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I’d say whatever weapon you like the most, try out an aspect or two on it

light flame
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I've been finding Chiron bow preeettty nasty

obsidian locust
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Chiron is pretty fun! Do try the other aspects though! They all are a lot of fun

valid venture
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If you can get a cast build going Hera bow can be amazing, but I tend to stick to Chiron for more general bow usage.

white dew
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What kinds of builds do you folks usually do for hte Stygian Blade?

daring oracle
white dew
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ah fair

nocturne shore
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how do you fish

glacial finch
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with a fishing rod, of course

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||after a certain point you can buy a fishing rod for diamonds from the contractor, then you will be able to fish||

daring oracle
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After ^ that, there will be a white shiny effect in the water/lava of the various levels or in between rooms that you can go over to and press the button to start fishing.

boreal gale
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is fish once per run or is it just an unlikely occurance so you only normally see one?

daring oracle
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It’s spaced out about 10 rooms and then a random chance to appear

rugged inlet
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You get 3-4 fish per run, if you don't miss them

daring oracle
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I got 5 once, but it’s very rare

rugged inlet
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You can potentially get more with a particular boon from Poseidon, or by buying the lure from the well

boreal gale
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i actively check every room after the fight cause of he coin pots and i've never had more than one

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i have had a very clear "ting" on a screen i could not find it

gritty hedge
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i've only had more than one once

valid venture
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I've had runs where I 0-1, and some runs where I get 3-4, it's all RNG unless you get the right boons or have the well item.

white dew
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I hate the stygian blade

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I just take so much damage

torpid spindle
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You gotta be quick with it

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Like get in, attack attack, dash away, cast, repeat

white dew
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yeah I'm just bad at it I guess

torpid spindle
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You’ll get better! Once you start learning enemy attack patterns it starts to get easier

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Just takes time

white dew
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I mean I've beaten the final boss three times I do know the enemies by now

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It's just this weapon

torpid spindle
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Oh lol

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🤷🏻‍♂️

restive spoke
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I mean I've beaten the final boss three times I do know the enemies by now
@white dew don’t attack on sword

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Special, dash attack, dash attack

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Repeat

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Works so good

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I hated sword until I tried that out

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Now it’s one of my fav weapons

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Just so much damage and feels smooth to play

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Look up some videos on aspect of nemesis and study how they attack

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Special, dash attack, dash attack. Basically

valid venture
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yeah, dash attacks are your best friends on swords IMO.

restive spoke
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^

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Get Artemis dash, attack

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Aphro special

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And get heart rend

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Sooooo much damage

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One of my fav build

cobalt geyser
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Sword users squirtmeh

odd forge
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I have this weird problem that I'm really good with the Stygius (I've been enjoying ||Arthur|| at the moment)... except for at the Final Boss, where I basically get taken apart, even if I've had a good time with boss 3.

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(I think part of the problem is that the approach you need to use makes my hand hurt weirdly, so by the Final Boss, I'm getting twinges. But it's not just that, it just seems like the approach I take through the rest of the game just doesn't work in the last encounter.)

smoky dagger
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The strategy against ||Hades|| is mostly about movement and having good ways to escape

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Since he has enormous range, projectiles and more

odd forge
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I mean, I know [also naming the final boss is a spoiler in this channel 😉 ], I've managed escapes with other weapons

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It's just weird that the weapons I'm best with with the final boss are the opposite to the weapons I'm best with everywhere else.

harsh leaf
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What heat you playing at? I don't have a terrible time with sword and I don't really use the dash-attack strat

odd forge
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Well, I can't beat the final boss with Stygius at ||heat 0||, so 😉

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I think part of the problem is that my timing is just slightly off with dodges, and that matters more with Stygius than with, say, Varatha.

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(and given that the other weapon I have problem with there, which I'm relatively better with everywhere else, is Malphon, I think that's definitely part of it, on consideration)

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(but also, I might just try walking away for 30 minutes before the final fight to let my hands stop hurting....)

misty salmon
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you lads choose your weapons and don't just take the one with the bonus every time?

odd forge
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I mean, sure. 20% darkness bonus isn't the only reason to pick a weapon.

harsh leaf
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Well, when you start playing with|| heat||, bosses kinda stop ||dropping Darkness|| so it isn't as enticing

misty salmon
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yeah but still, 20%+ over the course of many runs adds up

odd forge
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Plus, I mostly maxed out my mirror at this point.

misty salmon
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yeah i'm not at 30,000 darkness so i still have a ways to go on mirror

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it takes, like, 30,000 doesn't it?

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might have to start repeating heats just to get big darkness

odd forge
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Erm, probably? The only non-maxed out things on mine are at the bottom now

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(and that's on both sides of each option)

harsh leaf
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I strongly suggest rerolling and maxing out the bottom perk in particular

restive spoke
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If u look at the wiki u can calculate how much darkness it takes for a full mirror

dawn niche
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I wouldnt

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I rarely use rerolls

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The damage is better for me

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but it all depends on playstyle

odd forge
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I have lots in the bottom perk, because there's nothing else for me to put darkness in... and I never use it

dawn niche
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Its quite costly the bottom stuff

harsh leaf
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But Kuroui... the bottom option is two different rerolls

misty salmon
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yeah, the bottom two cost more than every single other perk combined lol

dawn niche
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Room reroll and boon reroll yes

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What Water said

harsh leaf
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Yeah, but he said he has both sides of the mirror maxed, surely you can lay back on a few of those

dawn niche
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you can also just get the unlockable from contractor

harsh leaf
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Well, I misspoke when I said maxed

dawn niche
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that allows you to get rerolls from keys

misty salmon
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fated authority has done some good for me

odd forge
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I could, but again: I have some darkness in the bottom two slots, and I don't use them

harsh leaf
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But putting even two points into rerolls is a huuuge gamechanger

misty salmon
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I imagine it's better if it's maxed out, a little extra freedom in using it

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haven't tried the other one yet but seems even better tbh, I've had so many situations with bad shops or boons

odd forge
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I very rarely think, "you know what, I really don't like any of the options here".

dawn niche
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The room changer is interesting

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I prefer the boon changer

misty salmon
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eh sometimes you have one option

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and it's not a good option

odd forge
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Mostly only in Tartarus in my experience

dawn niche
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has allowed by to buy back a death defiance on mutliple occassions

misty salmon
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also, rerolling the infernal gates can be good right?

dawn niche
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I didnt even consider that

misty salmon
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so you can turn big money into big god boon

odd forge
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Like I am at a level where I even have those open

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😉

dawn niche
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This is def turning into not new player talk

odd forge
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This is true

dawn niche
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so be careful what you reveal to others

misty salmon
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oh right

silent trail
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Anyone know if increasing damage increases the boons effect damage? For example if my weapon has bonus damage would that increase the lightning or doom damage on it?

misty salmon
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so I managed to max-rank all of the standard keepsakes

dawn niche
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Depends on the wording

misty salmon
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but i'm confused because i apparently did that already when i launched the game for the very first time??

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y game make me do thing twice

odd forge
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No, that was a bug in achievement awarding

dawn niche
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@silent trail For example Ares attack boon can increase Doom dmg but not base atk

misty salmon
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i love that bug, achievement stats says more people have max-ranked keepsakes than obtained them, lol

dawn niche
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where as Artemis Attack boon specifically increases attack dmg

odd forge
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That said, I'm almost there for real - I just went through a period of carrying around the Chaos one for ages to get cheap Chaos boons, so the others were a bit behind.

silent trail
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@dawn niche so for example Dashing Flight would not up lightning damage?

misty salmon
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yeah ever since i got my first keepsake i've done nothing but use unmaxed keepsakes

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and now that I have the plume and butterfly achievements, I finally have complete freedom to use whichever one I want

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even though the plume and butterfly seem really good outside of just getting the achievements

sullen pier
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does ||sisyphus|| ever work

odd forge
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They are, WATER, yeah. (I'm a tiny bit off of the butterfly achievement myself, but I will go for it again sometime.)

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does ||sisyphus|| ever work
@sullen pier I mean sure, in all the copious moments you're not talking to him. (He's gotta be ||pushing Bouldy up that hill|| when you ||don't find him in the ! room|| on a run, right?)

dawn niche
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@silent trail is that a hermes boon? gonna look it up

sullen pier
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I guess that's true

silent trail
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Hammer upgrade for the shield @dawn niche

misty salmon
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thank you for spoiler tag on ancient greek myth

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guys, ||the Titans die :(||

sullen pier
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man, never would've thought

dawn niche
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Ah i see

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So this seems like it would only increase the actual special damage

sullen pier
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||Chronos ate his children||

dawn niche
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Lighting damage is seperate since its an additional effect

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You can always check on how much damage your lightning does

odd forge
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Look spoiler tags are ||fun||, oka

white dew
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Got all the way with the blade only to lose to ||Hades' second form||

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hate my life

misty salmon
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it's ok, the progression is usually

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||1. lose the theseus, 2. lose to Hades phase one, 3. lose to Hades phase two, 4. win||

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maybe with a varying number of deaths at each step

white dew
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Yeah I've beaten it 3 times, I just suck at the stygian blade

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I'm trying to beat it with all different weapons

dawn niche
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Are you using Zag aspect

misty salmon
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i mean the aspect shouldn't matter

dawn niche
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if so maybe try out one of theother ones

misty salmon
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i think i've beaten it with zag aspect

dawn niche
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Its just a playstyle thing

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thats not the point im trying to make

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lol

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different builds work better with diff aspects

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Like Exit Wounds Aspect of Poseidon is good

white dew
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I got sort of close honestly, I think I'd have done it with more health

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I came there with 250

cobalt geyser
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250 is enough health rooSmug

white dew
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would have been with a ranged weapon lol

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So far I've done it with Exagryph, Spear, and Aegis

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the others are gonna be harder I think

misty salmon
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250 is more than enough health

white dew
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Yes you folks are better than me, I know

midnight granite
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lol

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right?

jovial stump
#

What does ||Herme's Cast Speed|| do?

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Does it ||increase the projectile speed of your cast|| or something else?

misty salmon
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time between casts is reduced

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relevant if you have multiple

jovial stump
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So it's related to the hold cast to fire in rapid succession and nothing else... hmmm...

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Seems odd

misty salmon
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can be good depending on build

daring oracle
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It also means you can move to other attacks / inputs if you don’t have multiple casts

misty salmon
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i had a build with aphrodite cast where each cast was dealing 400+ damage, would've been good with that

daring oracle
#

I was a big fan of my run with 5 ||Crystal Beams|| the causes ||Chill and exploded at 10 chill.||

dawn moon
#

do you get anything from fighting Charon again?

misty salmon
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same discount for that run

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helps you get the codex entry for card

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also you always get to keep the 300 gold you borrow

dawn moon
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thanks!

misty salmon
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ye

daring oracle
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Also there’s a prophecy for beating him twice in a row @dawn moon

misty salmon
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yes, twice in a row, not counting when you beat him before being assigned the prophecy I believe

rugged inlet
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That one was kind of weird for me

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I beat him twice before getting the prophecy

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Then one more kill earned me the prophecy

dawn moon
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@daring oracle i heard it has to be two consecutive runs for the prophecy? not sure

rugged inlet
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Doesn't have to be consecutive runs

daring oracle
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That would suck because of how rare it is to trigger

dawn niche
#

it doesnt have to be consecutive runs

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it has to be consecutive fights

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so if you fight him and win

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and then dont trigger it for like 5 runs

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it doesnt matter

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so long as the two in a row you fight you win

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also thats def post game so please spoiler tag

misty salmon
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also you can use death/stubborn defiance in either of the fights and it'll still count

dawn niche
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^^

brave fiber
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I recently beat the final boss for the first time but I've then gotten there and lost 4 more times, any tips on how to more easily get there?

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Not playing on any heat

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Been trying out fists and spear but not great with them

dense laurel
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u can turn on god mode, if u dont want that, shield is the easiest way

brave fiber
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any particular shield aspect?

dense laurel
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chaos probably

brave fiber
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what kind of boons?

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ares + dionysus maybe?

dense laurel
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i personally prefer aphro/demeter with athena dash but up to you

brave fiber
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aphro on attack?

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interesting i will give it a try, ty

harsh leaf
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Aphrodite has the highest percentage increase on damage, always good for attack builds

brave fiber
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oh damn

harsh leaf
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She also has a boon that makes weak foes take even more damage

brave fiber
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yeah ive seen that one, didnt know she had the highest dmg increase tho

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im kind of in a bad spot bc i spent all my ||titan blood|| to get ||guan yu|| so i am somewhat broke

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and before i knew what to do, i bought ||three levels in Hades spear||, which it turns out im pretty bad with

harsh leaf
#

Yeah, spin isnt a great move even at the best of times

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Do not despair, all level 1 weapons are capable of beating the game

fallow river
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i just beat hades for the first time and couldn't figure out how to add ||heat|| to my runs. i'm not sure if i just need to play the game more or if i'm doing something wrong. any help would be great

winged gate
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try maxing out ||Forced Overtime|| and grind with that

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and once you feel semi-confident lower ||forced overtime|| and invest in something else, the entire game will feel like a slo-mo

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disclamer: it might mess up with your deflect timing

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also, congrats on beating ||Hades|| bruv

fallow river
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when i tried adding any of the ||pact of punishment|| things the game wouldn't let me

rugged inlet
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What do you mean it wouldn't?

fallow river
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like when i hit the plus button to add an effect it wouldnt increase

sharp field
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Have you beaten it with that weapon?

daring oracle
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That’s how you increase it. Keep an eye on the left side to see the number.

fallow river
#

oh, can i only do it with weapons ive beaten the game with?

rugged inlet
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No, the weapon doesn't matter

daring oracle
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You don’t need to beat it with a weapon before the menu is open

fallow river
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okay it seems to be working now, might have just been a bug

winged gate
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oof

celest pebble
#

just remember you keep earning titans blood for each heat with each weapon (if that makes sense)

fluid crag
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hi guys, someone can say me which is the best weapon?

celest pebble
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yes

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and by yes, i mean all the weapons are best

proper pollen
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@fluid crag i think shield to learn attack patterns and then bow for dps

celest pebble
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i found bow quite hard to use early on as it attacks quite differently to other weapons

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press & hold vs tap

sullen pier
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yeah, I don't like it

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also, it's a shame you can only pet one of cerberus's heads

celest pebble
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there is a hammer upgrade for the bow that lets you just hold down/tap to attack and it was what got me through to (and beating) the final boss lol

daring oracle
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Chiron Bow was what did it for me

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After I won with Shield and Fists

celest pebble
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which one is chiron again? cast load or tracking special?

ivory token
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tracking

shadow heart
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I think tracking shot

celest pebble
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ahh ok yup - thats the only bow ive won with so far

shadow heart
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I havent touched forced overtime at all yet because i was using the butterfly for a while, and i was worried id get hit too much

celest pebble
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i'll have to try the other bows soon

pure minnow
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@fallow river i kept having the same thing and then I realized until you get through final boss it only lets you do the rank you're on- some heat options add 2 or 3 heat, when you are on 1 it won't let you add more

nocturne shore
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are fishing rods like a one time use or somthing cus i bought one and i fished once and have yet to find another fishing spot after like 10 escape attempts and ive been looking at all the rivers

light night
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You can use it indefinitely. You've just been having some bad luck.

nocturne shore
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dang

lilac folio
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how can one farm titan's blood beyond the ones you get for clearing Tartarus the first time with a weapon?

rain elk
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beat final boss, then you can do runs with ||heat||

lilac folio
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Oh, so nothing I can do to get more before that?

rain elk
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nope

lilac folio
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Thanks.

rain elk
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as far as i remember you can't trade for titan blood before you get your first clear, and you get titan blood from final boss as well as the furies

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so once you do your first clear it'll be way easier to get titan blood a bunch of different ways

harsh leaf
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You can buy Titan's Blood soemtimes in the final shop

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For 1200 obol

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half the time it's a diamond for 1000 instead though

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So you can get more TB even if you don't go for ||heat runs||

lilac folio
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I see.

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I just got some from the wretched broker.

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😁

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Is that what you meant by trade for titan blood?

light night
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Keys for blood is an insanely good deal

lilac folio
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Agreed.

light night
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Ambrosia is aight too early game

rustic idol
#

Curse of Agony is hot garbage on fists, right?

winged gate
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er

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is that special or attack

rustic idol
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Attack

pulsar frigate
#

merciful end is one of its best builds actually

winged gate
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ah

pulsar frigate
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agony = a = attack
pain = p = s pecial

winged gate
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pretty nice one then

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agony = a = attack
pain = p = s pecial
changed my life™️

restive spoke
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Curse of Agony is hot garbage on fists, right?
@rustic idol pretty much

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Cause u are wasting damage by putting it on something that hits rapidly

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Unless u get merciful end or the boon where multiple stacks of doom do more damage

lavish gazelle
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trading an uncommon resource (blood, diamonds, ambrosia) for a common resource is usually a bad trade, even if it can look tempting

normal flame
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there's a limited time deal that's like 1 ambrosia for 500 darkness

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that's a good deal for new players still working on the mirror

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mirror upgrades are vital and immediately helpful, and new players don't need ambrosia

tropic crypt
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New to the game, just started in Hell mode yesterday, which puts heat at 5. I need two diamonds now, but I'm unclear how this is supposed to work. Tried upping the heat to 6 but it says the gauge is exceeded, and I didn't get another diamond when I killed the snake?

harsh leaf
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Use another weapon

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Each weapon has its own set of rewards

tropic crypt
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arent you supposed to be able to get more by playing at higher heat levels or something? or was that changed?

harsh leaf
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You can also exceed the heat with no penalties, dont worry about it

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It says exceed cause you havent beaten the game yet

lavish gazelle
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only after you clear, you can't skip bounties

harsh leaf
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I dont suggest hell mode for beginners, since you can later set the heat to that level whenever you want in a normal mode game

lavish gazelle
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if you're experienced with the genre and want your first escape to feel earned rather than something you just breeze through, it's fine to start with

tropic crypt
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doesn't matter, I'm familiar with the genre, not too hard

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almost through elysium so far

harsh leaf
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Yeah but the issue is that the five minimum heat cant be changed, whereas in normal mode you can set those five points wherever you want. But you do you, my man

lavish gazelle
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a harder initial playthrough is arguably the only reason to use hell mode, it doesn't really offer much if you're already midgame on normal

tropic crypt
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yeah, I don't want to have the option of turning it down basically

rustic idol
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So just in, I love merciful end. It’s fun dashing into people to trigger doom damage

rugged inlet
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Merciful end makes Impending doom so much better too

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As if it even needed to be better

rustic idol
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Indeed.

desert idol
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oh wow a 22MB update!

dense laurel
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probably a bugfix yes

austere plinth
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Hello

jagged fossil
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Just beat the game for the first time. Do I get more rewards for beating it again on 0 heat or do I have to turn up the heat for more rewards. Also does the story progress with 0 heat bc that was hard enough as is

austere plinth
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What’s the locked door on the left side of the house for and when is it unlocked

formal rover
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@jagged fossil ||Yes, you need to turn up the heat to get additional bounties. However, the bounties track separately with each weapon, so you can get more by beating the game on 0 heat with one of the other weapons, although of course that will only work 6 times. If you’re struggling, consider turning on god mode.

It’s perfectly possible to finish the game and epilogue without using heat at all.||

rustic idol
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Real talk, I’ve had god mode since my 20th run or so, and it’s a wonderful addition.

gray haven
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@jagged fossil @formal rover please be mindful that ||Heat|| is spoilers in this channel. squirtnya

jagged fossil
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Oops sorry

rustic idol
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What’s a good shield build early on?

dense laurel
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aphro/ares i guess

rain elk
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anything with a high damage special, i like ares or zeus a lot

celest pebble
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can ares give you doom on special?

dense laurel
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yes

celest pebble
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oh cool - kinda want to try ||chaos aspect|| and grab the ares trinket/keepsake so i can hopefully get doom on the shield bounces

dense laurel
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y dont u just put zeus instead since the dmg will chain to others, creating multiple instances of dmg

marsh ether
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Zeus special has a cooldown. It can hit a single enemy every .2 seconds.

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Which isn't much if a cooldown but it does apply to shield 3.

pure minnow
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@austere plinth it becomes unlockable at a certain point through the house contractor, then it has some neat uses.

austere plinth
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@pure minnow thanks

topaz dust
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In trial of the gods, does the god I pick affect the rarity of the boon? Or will I get the same boon choices either way and it just changes the enemies

versed dune
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neither, it just affects what special attack you have trying to kill you

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aka don’t pick against aphrodite if you value your life

topaz dust
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Oh ok, I thought the enemy spawns were different too but I haven't paid too much attention

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Omg what does she throw at you?

versed dune
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She just stunlocks you with charm hearts

topaz dust
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Oh no

versed dune
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Athena only makes enemies invincible for a short time, can’t damage you; and Ares has a very slow moving damaging aoe

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Those two are the best to pick against imo

topaz dust
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Omgno I picked against Athena in ||Elysium|| and she kept putting shields around ||the eyeballs that regenerate into the fighter dudes|| it was terrible

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(idk what counts as spoilers)

versed dune
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Yeah Athena is rough there specifically

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Generally in this channel it’s anything past ||styx||

topaz dust
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Oh I haven't gotten that far lol

versed dune
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welp

topaz dust
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I'm not good enough to beat theseus

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Nah I don't care about spoilers I watch my husband play

versed dune
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Yeah they’re definitely the first big difficulty wall

topaz dust
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Well, I did in early access. So I don't know the new ending

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Yeah

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I have less than stellar multitasking skills so fighting two bosses simultaneously is rough lol..

gray haven
topaz dust
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Huh I usually focus asterius first, my husband said that's his strategy bc theseus's attacks are easier to dodge

versed dune
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Yeah, I’d say Asterius is better to focus first unless you’ve got stupidly high damage

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Theseus quite literally just vibes while you beat up Asterius, besides the occasional spear toss

topaz dust
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Lol

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Yeah he doesn't really bullrush you like asterius does

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But still, he catches me unawares bc I'm distracted

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And by that I mean I completely miss the glowing pink target on my face

formal rover
#

@jagged fossil @formal rover please be mindful that ||Heat|| is spoilers in this channel. squirtnya
@gray haven Sorry yeah, should have known that. My bad; tagged now.

gray haven
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Focusing on Asterius first is easier. Focusing on Theseus first is faster.

versed dune
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Fair enough

topaz dust
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Thanks guys! I just beat him for the first time!!

versed dune
topaz dust
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Back in early access I couldn't do it, i hit a wall and stopped playing. I've surpassed where I was then, in fewer runs :D

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Unfortunately I spent all my gold thinking I wouldn't get this far hahaha

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Started a run with the intention of dying early just to move the story, then I got a hammer in the first room lol

barren marlin
#

I thought focusing theseus was easier

topaz dust
#

Omg that was gonna be a throwaway run but not only did I beat theseus for the first time, I ||managed to bring hades down by half a health bar, and that's not bad for my first try!||

viral elk
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Congrats!

dense laurel
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good job

topaz dust
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Thanks :D

placid mirage
#

Hi, can anyone recommend a build that easy for new players to win the hades fight?

viral elk
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Using chaos shield with high damage worked for me

obsidian locust
muted latch
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||hades|| is spoiler territory

viral elk
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Yeah you should cover that up

tiny torrent
#

struggling to open the last aspect of any weapon someone help ? i played like 50 runs

viral elk
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idk if || aspects || are a spoiler too, but to be safe i'll hide it. || i think you just have to unlock some aspects of some weapons, then beat hades. a new talk should then be available with Achilles ||

tiny torrent
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did that multiple times :(

viral elk
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|| how many total aspects did u unlock? for all weapons, i mean ||

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|| i've done only 3 successful runs but i have the last aspect of spear unlocked ||

tiny torrent
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idk i guess i'll have to simply spend titan blood on them without playing them

viral elk
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|| for me it was unlocking/upgrading a couple from shield, fists, bow and stygius ||

muted latch
frosty hearth
#

does weak on attack also trigger when I dash attack?

formal rover
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yes

versed dune
#

does weak on attack also trigger when I dash attack?
@frosty hearth general rule is attack boons trigger on dash attack, attack hammers do not (for melee weapons at least)

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i think theres a couple exceptions but i can't think of any rn

frosty hearth
#

the attack % added also applicable on dash-attack right?

versed dune
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for attack boons yes; i'm not sure about chaos boons

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chaos boons specify attack or dash attack so i'm gonna assume no on those

frosty hearth
#

i see...

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thanks mate!

lapis spruce
#

Wow. They nerfed the mirror a metric ton since I last played. Death Defiances and general good abilities cost an arm and a leg

dense laurel
#

how so

marsh ether
#

In 1.0 they increased the cost of mostly everything in the mirror except Fated Auth/Persuasion. Those got a massive discount.

#

I am on a new safefile and I didn't find the darkness cost too steep, the keys are my top priority now

muted latch
#

I'm on 30ish runs and I got pretty much all the mirror upgrades I want so it's not really that bad

#

about 5k darkness in total

desert idol
#

I need 4k or so for the last green item in the mirror

#

The one that lets you re-roll fated something

#

90 attempts but I've maxed out almost all the rest as well

midnight cape
#

When can I put Extreme measures to rank 4? for the last boss?

thorny lantern
#

get some more wins in

oak geyser
#

||what are the recommended heat settings for a beginner? i'm only doing heat 1 or 2 just using the setting that spawns more enemies on regular encounters||

#

it's not that i'm having trouble with it

#

it's just i'm wandering if I can be more effective

thorny lantern
#

i used to take damage control

hollow basin
#

I just use ||Extreme Measures||

thorny lantern
#

em is pretty fun

hollow basin
#

Because ||at the start the first boss only gets a bit more difficult but tbh it‘s barely noticeable||

#

It is very fun! It’s also very easy to farm the || 1 heat Titan Blood rewards || with it imho, if you can already beat a run on standard settings

oak geyser
#

||yeah I already have all weapons clear with Heat 1 except bow, plus one or two clears in Heat 2||

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||I've having success with Jury Summons, was just wandering if I can use a more optimized option||

daring oracle
#

Anything about ||Extreme Measures, Pact Of Punishment, and Heat|| is a spoiler in this channel. Please edit your posts.

oak geyser
#

sorry edited my posts

daring oracle
#

Thanks

lime coral
#

do i just get the ||gold from the chthonic purse|| immediately? i can't tell if it has been "used" or not. i don't have to do anything to gain it, right?

#

(other than of course bring it)

frozen epoch
#

You get it immediately, and there's no benefit to keeping it after equipping. swap it ASAP for best benefit

lime coral
#

yeah, thats what i figured. thought it felt like i had more than i deserved lol, swapped it out at first opportunity. it just didnt say anything on it about having gained the thing

tall palm
#

Hi, does anyone know when or how do I unlock weapon aspects??

versed dune
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unlock all 6 weapons then do one more run

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skelly will tell you when you've unlocked them

tall palm
#

oh, thank you

gray haven
#

@frosty hearth @versed dune Strike boons from Master Chaos (+X% Attack damage) will affect Dash-Attacks also.

versed dune
#

Noted

gray haven
#

Dash-Strike boons, by the way, will also affect Malphon's Dash-Upper.

queen dawn
#

Hey, I just started playing this game a few days ago and uh... Does anyone have any Theseus and Minotaur tips? I cannot beat them for the life of me.

boreal gale
#

@queen dawn that fight is a big difficulty spike compared to previous so dont worry about walling there for a bit

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it's a lot of learning the attack patterns and especially the tell on the spear throw

daring oracle
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@queen dawn take out the Minotaur first. Phase 2 Theseus is a hassle to also have the bull attacking you.

Duck behind the pillar(s) whenever Theseus is readying his spear (target on you). After he throws, he’ll walk away from you giving you a chance to strike.

When the bull is charging at you, run to a pillar and dash through it to the other side right before he’d hit you so he crashes.

quasi rover
#

if you keep a God's keepsake when entering a new zone will you still meet that god first?

restive spoke
#

I don’t think so

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That effect only procs once

quasi rover
#

Ok so it makes no sense to keep that keep sake then I suppose

oak geyser
#

i've read somewhere it resets by biome?

lyric forge
#

There is kind of still a reason, you keep the increase in rarity from the keepsake.

#

The god gets forced to appear only once.

oak geyser
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cuase I was sugested to use the same keepsake (god one) for the first two biomes

#

is it just for the rarity increase?

lyric forge
#

It's a super fringe case but if you have a run where you care about getting Zeus boons and nothing else, then it could theoretically maybe be worthwhile. I'd still rather take other things though.

#

The god gets forced to appear until you pick one of their boons. If you have the Poseidon keepsake equipped, and you pick up a Poseidon boon from any source, that's it.

#

There is a number under the keepsake, it will vanish once it's used up. After that it's good for the rarity and nothing else.

oak geyser
#

ah yes, the same number as chaos boons right?

#

also i've read somewhere that if you have a certain god's boon that god has a chance to appear more in your run?

lyric forge
#

Kinda. Naturally the game will give you new gods until you have four. If you start with, say, Athena, then she's one of the four in the pool.

#

So she has a higher chance to show up again.

oak geyser
#

ohh only 4 gods appear in a run?

#

I had no idea about that

lyric forge
#

You can increase that number by equipping more god keepsakes but it's kinda diminishing returns, plus branching out that far isn't usually a good idea. You do kinda want support boons from the gods you already have.

steady void
#

knowing that, I wonder if family favorite is still worth thanthink

quasi rover
#

I'm using Hera Bow currently and I wanted Dio's cast

lyric forge
#

It is. It's 25% passive increase. Hermes also counts and he always shows up.

quasi rover
#

Haven't got it yet

#

And just beat Met

#

*Meg

#

Now I'm debating what keepsake to use

lyric forge
#

Personally I always run Priv Status unless I know I'm going for Artemis (sometimes also Ares), as with those it usually becomes more difficult to keep Priv Status up reliably.

gray haven
#

In the second biome, you'd typically run a god keepsake to force a specific god for your build.

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If you're not sure what to take because you have nothing in particular in mind, Coin Purse is always a good pick.

steady void
#

oh is that why people run god boon for first two?

gray haven
#

Yeah, typically.

steady void
#

it's one in first biome, another in the second gotcha

gray haven
#

Just lets you get the core build you want.

quasi rover
#

I just don't know what God to pick tbh

#

I mean I want the duo boon from Zeus and Dio

#

but I don't have the cast yet

#

I Dio Special and Zeus Call

#

I'm not sure whether I can get the duo boon if I don't have the cast it benefits though

umbral flame
#

you can check the requirements for duo boons in codex

steady void
#

you can check the "boon list" in the codex to see pre req's for boons

#

yep that

gray haven
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Taking the Overflowing Cup into biome 2 is fine if you want to try to go for that. You know something you want, after all.

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But Coin Purse is also still a good choice. You'll definitely see Lord Zeus and Lord Dionysus more often in your run because you already have boons from them.

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So Coin Purse could let you buy 1 more boon, for example.

quasi rover
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Well my coin purse is rank 1 😄

harsh leaf
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Even an extra hundo is a good boost

lyric forge
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Yup, plus it ranks it up.

gray haven
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Yeah!

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100 can be all you need to buy 1 more boon if you already have 50. dusa

leaden whale
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what is the best shield aspect

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🛡️

harsh leaf
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Chaos is probably the most powerful

leaden whale
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what bout zeus

harsh leaf
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I mean, I'm not a huge fan of Ares cast in the first place

leaden whale
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yeah

harsh leaf
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That's a question for the spoiler channel!

quasi rover
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I just unlocked the last 2 upgrades in the mirror. which one should i get first? God's Pride or Fated Authority? My gut tells me Authority

harsh leaf
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The reroll perks are strong, but huge darkness sinks. I suggest putting one point if you feel like it, since they are really strong

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Generally, the boon reroll is stronger than the room reroll

cobalt geyser
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room reroll good for farming

harsh leaf
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Farming what, darkness? If that's what you need, repeat zero heat runs are much better

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If it's Nectar, doing the above then trading is also better

quasi rover
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I'm not that interested in the room reroll

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How many ranks do you get in the boon reroll? 3?

oblique wren
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Room reroll lets you see if you're entering a dead end branch (for example a Charon room that leads to the boss) so you can farm more efficienty

harsh leaf
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You cant reroll charon stores, actually

oblique wren
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Exactly

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That's how you tell if it's a dead end branch

harsh leaf
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No, you cant reroll ANY charon stores

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Even ones taht arent before a boss

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You also cant reroll the NPC encounter rooms

oblique wren
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Right, but if you see, say a pom and it's also not able to be rerolled, you know it's a dead end

harsh leaf
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Or... you could just look at the room number

oblique wren
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Sorry wot

harsh leaf
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13 is always before the first boss

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23 is always before the second

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35 before the third, I think

oblique wren
harsh leaf
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Press select

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Top right, room number

light vault
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... There's room numbers??

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Lmao

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That would've been helpful

oblique wren
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Yeah, where do you even see that?

harsh leaf
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I just told you

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Press select

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Or, on M&K, whatever lets you see your boons I guess

oblique wren
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B

queen dawn
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I lost to theseus again

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I am going to punch my monitor in

valid shell
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Theseus is a nightmare when you're starting the game

queen dawn
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Well that's exactly what I'm doing

viral elk
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Do you try to fight them both at the same time?

daring oracle
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Don’t get Theseus below half health until the bull is defeated

valid shell
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But there are some easy ways around him, first is to kill the Minotaur first then try and slowly get Theseus to half his life, once you've done that prepare for the second phase, remember that Theseus has different god alignments and also remember that he starts to walk back to go away from you for a few seconds after he throws his spear

viral elk
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Is the opposite for me. I just stick to Theseus till he's defeated. The bull easy to deal with afterwards

queen dawn
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Do you try to fight them both at the same time?
@viral elk No, I always kill the bull first and every single time, I get so close with Theseus but he pulls out the blessing of the gods and I hate my life

daring oracle
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The point is that while the Bull is charging at you, you don’t want to deal with Theseus’s area of effect aid

viral elk
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Ah

daring oracle
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His spears are easy enough to dodge, so it’s fine to ignore him

viral elk
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Well I try to have Athena's dash boon if I can. And then just ignore Asterius till Theseus is dead

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But that's just me, I play quite haphazardly so I won't tell you to listen to my playstyle, lol

midnight granite
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What does ||Dark Foresight|| do?

queen dawn
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I BEAT THESEUS I DID IT WOOOO

midnight granite
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Nice!

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He's a real pain

lyric forge
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What does ||Dark Foresight|| do?
@midnight granite Makes it so you get more gold-leafed rooms (Boons, Poms, Health, Obols) over blue-leafed rooms (Darkness, Nectar, Gems, Keys).

midnight granite
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Thanks. Someone answered on the other thread. I never realized there was a visual difference

queen dawn
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okay well now I know the difference between the rooms

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thanks for that, that'll help with those chaos deals

lyric forge
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Pretty good to make your build stronger as you get more run-specific rewards, so more power ups. Makes it harder to get meta-resources though, if you still need the stuff from the blue doors you shouldn't really use it.

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Also you get less keys during the run, so less rerolls, which does kinda hurt.

midnight granite
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Yeah. I don't think I'm there yet

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Only beat ||Hades|| the one time||. Have Extreme Measure 1 on now so I can get more blood and diamonds, but struggling with Hades.|| The large aoe attack I haven't gotten the timing down

lyric forge
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It has a fairly well telegraphed animation but the timing for the dash can be a bit awkward. Athena Dash always helps.

steady void
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just hide behind something for his aoe thing or get mobility perks

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mobility perks are way better than they seem at first

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||hades is pretty rough to get used to but he's a blast when you figure it out||

midnight granite
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||Hades circular strike is brutal||. Still figuring it out.

lyric forge
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Yeah, it's something you need to get used to. There are certain builds that can mostly just either tank it through or straight up burn him down quicker than he can hurt you.

midnight granite
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When does it trigger? I'm dashing too early, I feel like

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I feel like I try to go laterally when I see the white line

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But I need to wait a little longer for my invincibility to be up while he swings

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Is that right?

harsh leaf
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If you both start your dash AND end your dash within the radius, you will likely get hit. That attack has a lot of active frames

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I suggest dashing out of it entirely

midnight granite
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Alright. So just stay wide

sick anchor
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any tips for final boss?

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Oh I see you're all on that subject already lololol

light flame
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commit to everything else on screen before the actual boss, have a plan for adds/bombs/traps when they come up

sick anchor
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yep I have most of that down

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at this stage I think its patience

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but also a great damage build would be helpful

midnight granite
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lol

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I had one poop build that couldn't reliably clear bombs before they went off

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that was sad

light flame
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at that point you just have to plan not to clear them and give yourself enough room to dash the shockwave

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sorry if we're getting into spoiler territory here

midnight granite
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I don't know. I don't find that fight very fun. Dude is a tank. It just feels like this long haul of playing conservatively

light flame
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yeah the last 2 bosses are kinda marathons

midnight granite
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at least mino eats it quickly

teal steppe
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Heyo

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I hope u're all doing fine

sick anchor
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Damn final boss giving me headaches

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so close

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what's the best weapon vs FB

teal steppe
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I'm still exploring the game and I can now improve my weapon with titan blood. Which weapon would you recommend me to invest on ?

sick anchor
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your favorite one to play

light flame
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you can cheese him out with the shield pretty easily, it can block pretty much every attack

sick anchor
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but you should check out an aspect rank list

white dew
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Dionysus is a good god for the gauntlets right?

sick anchor
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Shield is good

white dew
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because the effect stacks

sick anchor
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That;s indeed a good one

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on fists

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all the fist aspects are good really

white dew
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I think I'll try a build based on that

sick anchor
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shield the second one is good

white dew
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haven't won with the fists yet

teal steppe
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Where can I find such thing ?

sick anchor
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?

teal steppe
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Aspect rank list

sick anchor
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the blood or how do you upgrade

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oh

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youtube

teal steppe
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okay !

sick anchor
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jawless paul has a good one

light flame
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make sure its 1.0

sick anchor
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^

teal steppe
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Thanks for the heads up

half tapir
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um, I've lost my skeleton?

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is that a bug

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oh nevermind he was hiding I guess

teal steppe
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Wait I just landed on his ytb channel

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||Mintaure & Theseus are the final bosses ? ||

sick anchor
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No

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they are not

teal steppe
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Haha okay cool

sick anchor
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2nd to last

teal steppe
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This is the farest room I went to so far

sick anchor
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what weapons do you like the most so far

teal steppe
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That's why i'm asking

sick anchor
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how do you cover sp[oilers in here?

teal steppe
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Just select the texte before sending

sick anchor
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gotcha

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thought there may be a key commd

teal steppe
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alt+124

dawn niche
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|

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two of those

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||example||

sick anchor
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kill ||Mitaure|| first then ||Theseus|| is easier

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sweet

dawn niche
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Also yes i agree with that

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||Asterius|| is easier to kill first

sick anchor
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I think that's pretty standard approch

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also will give you more room to work / dodge

teal steppe
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||Should I fully upgrade one weapon first ? Or just invest all weapon at the same speed ? ||

dawn niche
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Its up to you but i would recommend not putting it all into one weapon right away

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One aspect sure

teal steppe
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I need to understand whare aspect are

sick anchor
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100% don't upgrade

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one weapon

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for many reasons, but it will also severly hamper your story progress

teal steppe
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Ths 1st upgrade ?

sick anchor
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unlockign them is a ok

dawn niche
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^

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So Aspects just have different effects

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with Stygian for example, there are the 3 primary, Zagreus, Poseidon and Nemesis

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each have diffferent effects

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Zag buffs speed

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Poseidon causes your cast to dislodge from enemies

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And Nemesis increases damage after special

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its just different play styles

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Theres no one better than another

teal steppe
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Okay I see

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Thanks mates 🙂

dawn niche
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no problem

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good luck with your runs!

teal steppe
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Thanks !

atomic pond
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so is titan blood not guaranteed after beating the first boss? In the beginning I used to get it almost every time but now I'm usually only getting darkness

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is there a different way to get more for the aspect upgrades and stuff?

pulsar frigate
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you'll only get blood from beating the fury once (with each weapon), after that they'll only drop darkness

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there is another consistent way to get blood, but only after you've beaten the final boss

atomic pond
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oh dang, i wish i knew that so I could have used it more on the aspects i liked lol
I guess i'll just have to beat him then LOL

odd forge
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You can also trade for it at the broker, of course, but that's going to take longer.

dawn niche
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youll get more later

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dont worry about the titans blood for now

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try to finish some runs and eventually you'll get to a part in the story when you can get more

leaden whale
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do we agree that ||chiron aspect unupgraded on bow|| is pretty bad ?

harsh leaf
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It's not great, but plenty capable of beating the game

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There are a few aspects that really require full investment in order to shine

white dew
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I just picked the blood filled vial but then I go in and the first boon is poseidon

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huh?

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has that ever happened to you folks?

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I've gotten Daedelus hammers sometimes but never another god's boon

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that must be a bug right

sonic mauve
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it can happen

bold copper
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I’ve had Hermes show up after selecting a god trinket. He at least comments on making the other god wait though.

sonic mauve
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the god will tell you that the other one is on their way

white dew
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Is it just random or is it plot related then

sonic mauve
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its not a guarantee on the first, but the second one is definitely the one you chose

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its just because its.. somewhat realistic that way? i mean, gods cant be everywhere at once

white dew
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oh damn

sonic mauve
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well then

white dew
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It's cause poseidon wanted to give me a legendary boon

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not even a choice lol

bold copper
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Fishing

sonic mauve
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the fishing one, huh?

white dew
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ye

candid siren
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hello guys

sonic mauve
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yup thats scripted when you get the rod

bold copper
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Yeah that’s kind of scripted

white dew
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I've had the rod for a while

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But probably just caught my 5th fish

candid siren
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anyone had crushes when playing the game for the first 5 mins?

white dew
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might be the trigger

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you mean crashes Duro?

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or do you just think Artemis is hot

candid siren
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i just bought it played the first run

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and then boom crushes everywhere

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xD

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athena artemis and aphrodite are hot af

sonic mauve
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dionysus 😏

white dew
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Dio looks good yeah. Love the hair

candid siren
#

should i post at tech support channel?

sonic mauve
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dionysus is the personification of "best buddy when youre drunk at a party who keeps you safe"

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if its visible in-game, @candid siren, you can press F10 to report it

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but if your whole game dies, thats not an option obviously

candid siren
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no the game just dies

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FATAL EXCEPTION at 0x00007FFDE4AE96BE with that message

unkempt jacinth
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What do I do with titan Blood

white dew
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upgrade weapons

unkempt jacinth
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Where

daring oracle
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After you’ve unlocked all 6

white dew
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and unlock different versions

sonic mauve
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once you unlock it later

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skelly will tell you

unkempt jacinth
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Oh ok

sonic mauve
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just patience

unkempt jacinth
#

I bought the game today and it's super fun

white dew
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It's so fun

unkempt jacinth
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Ive unlocked 5 weapons

white dew
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I'm doing my 50th run and it hasn't gotten boring whatsoever

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it just... it's so good

candid siren
#

i wish i could play it 😦

unkempt jacinth
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And beat the first 2 boss

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||test||

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I died vs the ||minotaur||

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Lmao

white dew
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Only the last boss is spoiler here I think?

unkempt jacinth
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Idk

sonic mauve
#

asterius is tough

white dew
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Yeah, took me a while. Basically have him down to a science now though

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but sometimes I get too bold and he hits me

sonic mauve
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hate when he does the axe swing without an animation beforehand

unkempt jacinth
#

Is it useful to pet Cerberus?

white dew
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Yep

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No Fuji

sonic mauve
#

for the soul, yes

white dew
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Only for your soul

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eyyy same brain cell

sonic mauve
#

hell yeah

unkempt jacinth
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Wdym

white dew
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It just feels good

sonic mauve
#

theseus, on the other hand, is just an annoying battle of waiting him out

white dew
#

nothing gameplay wise

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all my homies hate theseus

sonic mauve
#

you can just kite him around one of those objects there and keep using cast (or special on rail)

white dew
#

Wondering if it's worth it to replace a level 3 epic ares special for a level 3 heroic artemis special

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using the blade

sonic mauve
#

although once i absolutely ROBBED him of his life with ||artemis greater call||

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i think ares is better

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then again, its not that important, the trades are mostly balanced

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just your own preference

white dew
#

I can handle the elysium match but every time I've beaten redacted a call has been involved

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Poseidon's is my fav

sonic mauve
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lol, one time i had dionysus normal attack, then got an offer to get zeus rare attack, then demeter epic attack, then dionysus heroic attack

white dew
#

damn

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which weapon?

sonic mauve
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fists i think not sure

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i can check when this run's over

white dew
#

wait one of the next rooms is glowing, what's that mean?

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never seen that before

sonic mauve
#

wdym?

white dew
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oh damn it's a fishing spot

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I wonder if I can always see that or only with this fishing legendary

flint eagle
#

how can i find some message for me?

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i'm not good with discord

sonic mauve
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you mean a boon? they just appear

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OH lol

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maybe you mean the Inbox, which is in the far top right next to the question mark (on pc)

flint eagle
#

i mean i had message for me in this channel

white dew
#

No the icon for the room was giving off beams of light

flint eagle
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cus there red 1 near

white dew
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I dunno if I just have hella tunnel vision but I don't think I've seen that before

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must be the fishing boon

flint eagle
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@white dew was it darkness?

white dew
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no gems

flint eagle
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mb u just bought upgrade for gems in contractor?

sonic mauve
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it could be the fishing boon yes