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Zeus at level 1 doesn't really do a whole lot. Should still work with Zeus or Dio special on it but I'd probably take other aspects first.
I already have Nemesis, Hera and Talos unlocked and 2 blood left. So now I'm debating whether to keep leveling Talos or unlocking the Zeus shield
I would upgrade the zag shield,
Before you take Zeus shield I'd rather either upgrade Talos, or maybe grab Eris rail.
shackle cast build sounds preddy nice
none of the casts are super op like there are for other damage types
and urge to kill/chaos are like the only ways to increase cast damage aside from crits and stuff
What should I spend Gems on? Most choices seem cosmetic
the ones in first menu until they’re all diamond only
then lounge
after that it doesn’t matter
Thanks Zeph
all g
i havent beat redacted yet, should i focus on getting mirror upgrades or just go for a win run?
spoiler that name
Final boss is spoilers @versed obsidian
mk
or change to redacted
I mean, how many attempts have you made?
Also to answer your question, you can easily get a win run without the mirror
YES
Or Zeus
yeah just Aphoridte
attemps are below 30
Excuse me?
eyes yummi

:c
Ah no but my opinions aside, any god works, but AAAA work great on any weapon
ah yes, the god AAAA
Artemis, Athena, Ares and Aphrodite
oh Athena is absolutely scary
Memes aside, Artemis is really strong, but Athena just makes you a wall
what are your favourite weapons?
I love every weapon 
All of them are powerful
None are weak or trash, and neither are they OP
So anything will work
i know, i was just asking for preferences
Well, it depends on your playstyle
I think I enjoy bow the least
Yeah its a nice change of pace from isaac
I find that the shield tempts me to be too static; and similarly with the Rail
this weapon
I think I probably prefer the spear
whoops its not letting my upload, but the weapon anvil thing that makes the shield charge shoot a shield is pretty op
Isaac runs are clearly superior in that it completely coats the screen with absolute nonesense
is tempest strike bad on melee? i mean enemies are knocked into walls even harder, right?
Or not
What's the channel to talk. About boss strategies?:)
@keen fog for all other than the final boss, this channel is alright. Probably #h1-builds-and-combat is a better place though, unless you really want to avoid spoilers
Issac is bullet hell thus the nonsense on the screen 😅
Isaac is great!
Agreed
I have like 600 hours on it
Not as much as you, but a good amount
How does aspect ||of hera work? Instead of throwing cast I put it into my bow and shoot? Seems like waste of time or am I missing something?||
Its pretty fun when you load it with other types of casts
Ohhh, I see why it can be good now!
like dio :3
Yeah, you can load 3 into one shot and just let go for massive damage
Do keep in mind, it doesnt work well with other casts
I think it works well with Ares, Poseidon, Artemis, and Zeus
Might be missing some that are balls to the wall good but those are off the top of my head
Athena turns it into a small explosion, so I guess could be good for grouped enemies
Is there a way to look at my last run boons?
You can unlock something like that eventually. It'll be obvious when you get there, if I remember right.
There will be a room where you can view every single run you've done
The room will be unlocked through work order, just progress through the story
is there a way to get back the titan blood I spent? like a reset like the one on the mirror
no
can i have the default saved games please
Titan Blood can be refunded if you haven't entered any other house room since spending it, i.e. no going back to Zag's chambers or ending a run by dying or winning.
Once you have done that Titan Blood is non-refundable.
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for bow is the attack or special better for artemis?
Which bow are you using?
how do i get duo and higher rarity boons? I'll watch youtube vids to see how people play with certain aspects, and before theseus they'll already have two duo boons and a legendary, whereas i get mainly commons and no duos at all
I usually go for Special if I’m using Artemis with Bow. Because you have multiple hits and more chances to critical
rarity is random, duo boons and legendarys have requirements, check your Codex and God or a wiki to find out the required boons
ah ok, gotcha
There are things in the mirror that you can unlock to increase the odds of rarer boons. Or upgrade rarity at Eurydice
And I believe.... Poseidon(?) has a boon that increases the odds for Rare boons A LOT in a given run
There is also a mirror upgrade that lets you re-roll boons for a new set
It's not incredibly expensive now
The costs for FA and FP got nerfed hard in 1.0 (it's mentioned in #hades-patch-notes from memory)
what is max lvl for boon and when diminishing returns starts to kick in?
no known max level, and it depends on the boon
There’s only the limit of how many you can get in a run, not a level cap
Diminishing returns could be after 1-2 levels or it could be something that’s fine to keep leveling
Diminishing returns set in immediately for essentially anything that isn't Crystal Beam or Dionysus boons.
Is it worth it to try and farm all boon prophecies early (even if it breaks my build)?
Or should I just try to go as far as possible for now? (so far I have only beaten the ||minotaur|| a few times)
definitely go for prophecies
I don't mean just picking fated choices when I see them, but also the prerequisites
it's not hard to try and build for them
it's good to unlock all upgrades that not decor with gems, after that it's not so important to do gem prophecies.
I have like 1 remaining for each god but it's hard to get them to spawn 😦
1 or 2 choices wouldn't break your game
ok ty 🙂
I'm mad.
||Fighting Hades, thought I won, Ahahahaha NOPE.||
Not even two death defies helped..
Ah, but that’s perfect. Something more to strive for.
Try again
Or that duo boon that ||regenerated your health when you have no more death defies.||
Mrgh
wait how
Plus you can get a third defiance. We believe in u.
in the ||last area|| are the more expensive god boons higher rarity?
Yes @languid narwhal
cool
A lot of mobs can do significantly more damage than you can outheal w/ Stubborn Roots so you still have to have decent dodging ability
||Second phase hades has no mobs|| @wild cloud
Kinda hard to run when all the mechanics in the fight suddenly combine together into a massive 'boi you're going back to the haus'
I mean that in general. Including the final boss, who can do quite a bit.
||second phase isn't quite as scary as it looks once you get there a few times||
Tag spoilers
||it's a lot more predictable than the first phase||
unpopular opinion
ready for this
this is major spoilers
||EM4 phase 3 is really easy||
it slapped my ass cheeks
How
had a close range build
Fair
and ive only done it that one time
i did first try but it did almost kill me
Also Krak, if you like playing around w/ Stubborn Roots, Stubborn Defiance plays super well with it, assuming you’re able to fully abuse it every room.
About that, I'm wondering if I should use either Olympian Favor or Dark Foresight.
Probably not gonna use Stubborn Defiance at the moment.
Olympian favor is pretty good
I'm new, stuck at the boss of ||Elysium||. Mostly use the bow for high damage with ||black shawl||, or the spear. My death defiance is only leveled up once, and recently got ||lucky tooth|| which could help me beat the area's boss, but I'd rather not die at all. Any tips?
Kill the minotaur
Biggest problem
When he charges, you can dash through the pillars in the arena
he cant
so he'll run into them
Theseus is a matter of paying attention to the reticle
so you dont get sniped
Yeah, ||Deal with the bull first, try to keep behind your target and watch out for spears from the other guy, also the bit about running him into the pillars might not work all the time so be ready just incase.||
||Even if I ran the minotaur to the pillar, his slash attack would still connect I assume||
Unless he stops on the pillar
Alright thanks
Well, I guess I'll start a new run and then take a break to untilt.
and yeah, you don't want to brute force through the fight by using up all your Death Defiances and the tooth, you want to be in good condition for the final stretch
I hate ||Minos'|| charge
It feels so wonky
Sometimes he sinewaves towards me and I'm like ah, why
I'm so sad,|| i had an extremely good built for DPS but got killed by Hades. It's mainly because i'm not taking the death defiance or any kind of regen from the mirror. ||
Sometimes he sinewaves towards me and I'm like ah, why
@split dome|| jump over the pillar or jump over the guy with the shield.||
Aspect of ||Hera + Artemis' cast with even more boosts did so much damage it's crazy||
yo how do i get the ||guan yu|| aspect
@buoyant sigil keep playing and talking to Achilles, at some point he talks about ||having a dream and something about a crimson phoenix. After that go to the spear and Zag will chant the words Achilles said. Probably after reaching the end with spear.||
Requirements for all 4th aspects are pinned in #h1-story-discussion
Says you need to unlock ||5 other aspects (besides base / Zagreus aspects)||, fight ||the final boss at least once||, and talk to ||Achilles|| .
Also you need ||the Fated List||
Been playing for a week and really enjoying the game, out of curiosity, anyone playing on a switch pro controller? I'm using the handheld and have carpal tunnel. It's really brutal on my wrists. Wondering if the pro controller is more ergonomic/hand friendly lol.
Joycons are really bad for any kind of action game, yeah
Pro Controllers are expensive but waaaay cheaper than physical therapy and doctor appointments
It’s my favorite game controller
the 8bitdo controllers are really great and cheap too, been using my SN30 Pro + since it has a turbo button for many games
Sick! Got a big paycheck this week so might grab one. I've been playing a lot of "hard but fun" games so it's probably worth it 😭
is anything considered cheesy/noobcrutch? I get that feeling from ||cursed sword|| and ||various shield bash shenanigans||, just asking so I git gud without playing on some broken combo (if there are any)
i think shield allows you to get away with not having to dodge certain attack patterns that you'll want to learn how to dodge regardless
but i wouldnt consider shield a crutch or anything
If it seems broken, it's working
if you're before your first clear, i wouldn't worry too much about combos that make the game easy
if you're after your first clear ||turn up the heat if its too easy||
basically; yeah shields make the game easier, but learning shield play is as valid as learning any other weapon
re: cursed slash, opinions vary wildly as to whether its any good lol
i personally avoid it on serious runs
If it seems broken, it's working
also kinda this
roguelikes are made to be broken
I would argue that while you can steamroll with shield, you can steamroll even harder if you've played all other weapons and had the epiphany that you can dodge pretty much every attack if you just have the right timing
that's true; i wouldn't recommend playing only shield (or only any weapon)
mixing it up will build your fundamentals a lot faster
i finally got to the point where i've started unironically using my cast sometimes
which of the powerups I get are boons and which aren't? for purposes of ||eurydice's +1 to levels of 4 random boons thing||
everything you get from olympian gods are
so basically anything that is not currencies, hammer and pom (||Eurydice's effect is basically a big pom||)
yep, has to be one with a level
so not ||dark thirst||, what about ||enshrouding affluence||
well some things I know are levelable don't show level at level 1 it seems
mirror options aren't boons
boons are the rewards given by gods that appear on the left side of your screen
yeah the mirror options also show on the left side of the screen so I was trying to clarify... and hammer doesn't count either?
||enshrouding affluence|| is a ||chaos thing||
only things you get from talking to an olympian god in a run
you can't upgrade hammers, no
anything else is not
is there a way to tell when actually looking at them?
oh yeah chaos boons also can't be upgraded
sorry thought that was the money mirror option for some reason
like I have Crush Shot which doesn't like, say it's from her
Crush Shot is from aphrodite
but it doesn't say her name on it or anything
just wondering if I can tell at a glance which things could possibly benefit from a pom
which aspect should i first try with the spear?
How do you get more titan blood ?
6 from first ||Fury|| kill on all weapons, after that you will need to do higher difficulty runs
@smoky dagger bounties prophecies broker and fishing
can you respec the titan blood? I am super reluctant to invest
no you cant. try experiment with some aspects, dont worry about progress on those runs, give up and return to try another
give up reverts you back to pre run status
oooh
so with the ||gloves|| a hammer option was to make special be a kick that strikes twice, but special already strikes twice...?
What's a reasonable damage output for Elysium?
do yall prefer running zeus or chaos shield?
aspect of ||guan yu|| and ares cast is so fun especially in ||styx||
does taking Crystal Beam mean I'll never have a cast "in an enemy" for purposes of those mirror buffs?
yeah if you dont see the cast icons it doesnt work
huh
if I don't recover my casts do I get them back at the end of a level? like if I don't walk and get it
How do the consumable guarantees work? Like, there's one for Chaos and another for Infernal Trove
And its wording is something to the effect, "Guarantees * where possible"
What's that mean?
@midnight granite some rooms cant have chaos gates
or throves
so u will have it in 1st room where it possible to appear
Gotcha
And do Defiance refills only appear in shop when I have too few gold? lol
what is the window like for Quick Recovery (dash afteer getting hit)
very short rly
if you're non-stop dashing anyways it shouldn't be an issue i don't think
it's fairly short, but not too hard to hit
also if you ever get the ||hazard bomb hammer upgrade for the rail||, spec immediately into special, mine got to 713 ish a pop close to the end of my run
hey there. is there anywhere a overview of all the boons and which boon has what prerequisite to show up?
ah...thx! and outside the game? any big chart, where all boons are listed an which is up to date?
wiki
Boons are upgrades given by the gods to help Zagreus in his attempts to escape the underworld. They can be obtained as rewards for clearing a room marked with the respective god's symbol or purchased for 150 from Charon's shop (as of the update from January 29th. Before it wa...
Can anyone tell me how to unlock Blank on a new file? done like 40 runs, seen the ending, unlocked almost all non hidden aspects but achilles won't say anything about the spear?
@stiff lake gy is kinda spoiler 1st
sorry
2nd check pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion
all hidden aspects are spoilers
u can have all info u need in that message
All right thanks! was just wondering if there was anything else maybe? Not sure if the Dialog is being like passed over because of all the progress being made elsewhere with the ending and whatnot? Just on my old file (pre 1.0) I had all aspects before I'd even done 30 attempts.
cant say rly dude
i start new save after release
and opened it kinda fast
let me say
around 40
40th run was already with that aspect
keep talking to nyx, she will eventually tell you about it
no, in the house. sometimes she is missing
someone tell me pls how does Talos fists works
@leaden whale do another run
and look her after
i got the lambent plume to max level and it won't let me gift anymore to hermes, what am i doing wrong here? i talk to him with it equipped but i got nothing. sorta confused rn
i've gifted all up until the last heart with the lock icon on it
so I've finished my first run and my fav weapon so far is the spear, and I like both ||aspect of guan yu|| and aspect of hades
which one should I upgrade of now? ||aspect of hades is the one I use more considering how punishing default guan yu is, but I feel like I should invest my titan blood early on for it||
i think secret is way better
i do not love spear
hades aspect especially cus spin attack is too slow and dangerous to use
hades spear is great
not for me
you don't spam spin attack though, it's just how you apply your debuff
if you dash out of an uncharged spin you remain pretty safe, that's a good way to debuff enemies
i know how does it work
that's the main thing that makes hades spear feel good, dashing into and out of spins so you're not just standing there
still it dangerous to just stay and charge it
the uncharged spin is pretty fast though
I like playing with aspect of hades
debuff ofc but the spin also gives you decent aoe if you really need it
yeah it's nice against swarms of weaker enemies
deflect on attack makes some encounters laughably easy
for chonkier enemies though you should just spin on them once and then do your main damage with your attack or special
yeah it's just nice to have the option
for sure, deflect on spin feels awesome
||guan yu|| is really fun in general though
that's out of my wheelhouse haha, haven't really used it
I think both aspects need heavy investment to really shine tho
hades is def usable by default though
||guan yu is a bit less so
only having 30% health is rough||
yeah hades is more than good enough for clearing the game unupgraded, but the damage really skyrockets with more blood
Hades is my favorite aspect of the Spear line. Achilles and Hidden Aspect are probably better in terms of raw power and safety, but I just love chonking people with that thing.
and congrats on your first clear btw 
thank you
I got that one duo boon where your blood stone basically becomes a lightning rod
and I was rolling shield so that made things a lot easier
I haven't gotten that one yet but it sounds like a lot of fun
if I switch keepsakes to antoher god's one will the "next boon will be zeus" take effect? or is that only at the start of the whole run
yes u can
I don't use casts much anyhow so it made for an interesting strategy
and next will be god u choose
@stable breach if u use cast build u use it as main source of dmg and dont want lose it
yeah for cast builds it's not great
if u dont use cast build u use cast as damage multiplier and still dont want them lay an the ground
I usually just forget about using it as a multiplier a lot of the time tbh
@pastel cipher i dont speak english good enough to say it coorrectly sorrry
All good ^_^
should i buy a titan blood?
? Cash don't get carried over different runs
yeah but should i get boons or titan blood
blood
||the Hades fight is spoiler in this channel|| @scenic oyster
you need a lot at the beginning
sry
hey quick question can i save my game mid run
yes
i just beat the minotaur and thesues for the first time but i need to go
so i can just leave the game?
if it saved
if the game allows you to quit, you are safe to quit
it saves when you enter a new chamber
dont use give up
just don't alt+f4, it might reset your run
okay thank you guys!
should i buy a titan blood for an Ambrosia?
is that the limited time exchange?
I wouldn't suggest trading boss resources
you do need Ambrosia but you'll have excess if you keep doing runs and fulfilling prophecies so it's your choice, Blood gets more usage at the start/mid game
When you need ambrosia you tend to need a lot of it though
it isn't the limited time exchange
yeah but if you don't upgrade all your ||companions like Skelly or Dusa|| , you "should" have an excess
Ambrosia is harder to get than titan blood though
Even if you do upgrade all of them. There are a lot of prophecies that reward Ambrosia, and usually chunks of it. For essentially the entirety of the game I had way more Ambrosia than I actually had uses for the stuff.
mb when i have ||bouldy ||i will change it but i see no reason to upgrade all ||comps||
you want to work with other ||companions|| just for the Codex entry
I think i am going to keep the Ambrosia for now
well maybe but i have more intresting moments
do i only get 1 diamond boss drop per weapon?
God this game is so good
idk, I die a lot, that means it's bad
If you die constantly you're doing it right.
kk
awesome game, another winner from this dev
do you only get titans blood from meg or do you get more later on
i see that others are dying a lot, glad to hear that's normal 😛
Is there any plot progression reason to sell my boons?
iirc blood is a reward for boss one and four?
@stoic goblet yes
@flat fractal just for money
Ok
and if u dont need this boon and u dont want it was a burden in ur run
@stoic goblet you one from the final boss as well
can you get more blood from trades?
I think so, but I cant remember exactly
@weary sedge there are 4 way to get blood in game
because i traded one of them early on for like keys because i didnt know what they did lol
1st - bounties
2nd - prophecies
3rd - Broker
4th - fishing
okay cool ty
@clever narwhal one diamond drop per weapon per ||level of heat|| which you unlock after your first completion.
How does ||Demeter|| Cast work with the Hera Bow?
Does it just... Leave a crystal behind on impact?
is shield good
some say the best
i personally don't like it much, but eh
yeah
shield is stupidly strong
too strong to ignore
both mobility and invincibility in 1 move
that is something
should i buy a diamond for 1000 coins?
@scenic oyster if u feel strong enough to finish run
Always @scenic oyster
ok
@white dew call him redacted or final boss pls
build was pretty good I just didn't play well enough I think
feels bad
I was going to go for a rupture build like last time but I haven't gotten a knockback boon yet, and now Demeter is offering an attack boon (+78%) and a special boon (+111%)
which would you folks pick if you were me
What weapon are you using?
aegis
Personally I recommend the attack boon, but if you find yourself using special a lot (with a particular aspect, for instance) then go for the special.
My thing is I really want good DoT, especially for the last two boss fights
this is chaos aspect so I use the special quite a bit
how does chill fair against theseus and redacted though?
Chill is generally just a good debuff imo, especially if you stack some of Demeter's later boons
It's very versatile and I use it all the time, strongly recommend for Redacted if you have time to build up some Demeter boons.
this is still tartarus so I can do that. what does she add on top though?
She can build Chill to do some damage, debuff further than the initial speed debuff, and her Legendary boon is exceptionally useful for bosses.
She also combos well with the other Gods/Goddesses.
Good luck in your escape attempt!

If I skip heat levels do I get the previous tiers rewards?
yes, but you can only get one run of bounties per escape
so if you have bounties for heat 1, for example, but do heat 2 - you get the bounties from heat 1 only
then if you do another run at the same heat, heat 2, you'd get the heat 2 bounties normally
Fair enough
any tips on the 3rd area's boss?
I usually start with the minotaur. Stay behind the columns to avoid Theseus spear throws
Big guy first, try to dodge out of the way of spear/shield guy's spear
@gilded condor Start big guy and try to stay behind him and hide behind columns from spear
When Asterius is charging lead him to a column
yeah i did big guy my 2nd time
Theseus' ability after halfway is so devestating
You'll have a pink crosshair on you when he throws the spear, look out for that
His AI makes him turn really quickly towards the player, but he does walk slowly off to attack
yeah i usually see that
That spear does the most damage
shows his back to you
Zeus boons ignore shield too
theseus have 2 attacks - throw and spin after both he is vulnerable
Status curses are applied even on shield, I think
Easiest ways to deal with Theseus imo is Doom or Artemis arrow boons (her Cast, Support Fire, her Call, etc)
@harsh leaf nope
Status curses are applied even on shield, I think
They are not
Oh? Hm
Zeus works because it's an actual lightning bolt projectile
zeus is not good for some weapons and aspects
I'm just saying it's good against shields 🙂
Also note that when Theseus uses ||his call; he gains the status effect of whatever god her summoned||, also ||he can Crit you if he calls upon Artemis||
Lightning is the least effective of the ways of ignoring shields
Even then unless you get “jolted isn’t removed upon attack” he’s still meh
the best way to ignore shields is to hit their back 
@versed dune he uses most of gods typical effects
the best way to ignore shields is to hit their back
@pulsar frigate There we go
he uses most of gods typical effects
@flint eagle that’s what I said
oops sry
He just can’t Mark you
no but seriously, the best things you can learn in this situation are enemy patterns and positioning ability
so he crits you directly instead
no but seriously, the best things you can learn in this situation are enemy patterns and positioning ability
This, you need this if you wanna win with any build
I mean that’s true; but that’s such a blanket statement for any game like this
you don't need "workarounds" like piercing effects or artemis cast/aid when you know how to set yourself up in a favorable position, this is very critical to your success
Almost as bad as “get good”
It is
I've been picking fated boons and I was killing last boss back to back after my first kill
Nah always take Artemis cast, opop
for theseus, after he spins or throws his shield, he always walks away from your position, back side towards you
this is your chance to strike
I had some godawful runs and I had no problem killing theseus
artemis cast is one of the worst imo
what to do with gods blood or something I forgot
when he activates his call, he's vulnerable from all angles and is basically a sitting duck, attack now
@leaden whale upgrade weapon
when greatshields, the enemy, attack, they always stand still for a moment, this is when you get behind them and strike
@leaden whale you havent unlocked it yet, keep playing and you will eventually 🙂
||Will happen once you get all the weapons, good luck||
I think the best way for new players is to keep grinding fated boons, just see whats out there and test out whats OP and what is not
There is some really bad duo boons (like Aphro + Demeter) and some boons that can singlehandedly win you the run, even though they seem crap
Agree; find the builds you personally like
I thought Poseidon was trash when I started playing, now I absolutely love it
Popo with the big damage
pos still one of the worst 4 me
Also found out why so many people think the bow doesn't click for them. Had my gf play hades for the first time, she couldn't get the bow. Realized it's a controller thing, since on mouse and keyboard that weapon is so much easier to use.
I can use bow fine with controller, though I imagine it's easier with mouseaim
Poseidon can basically clear most fights with just dash
Especially when you add rupture on knockbock and bonuses for slamming into walls
I think Poseidon on Chiron Bow is my favorite type of build
Except that it’s useless vs bosses
It’s not at all
when greatshields, the enemy, attack, they always stand still for a moment, this is when you get behind them and strike
Rather, run up to them (not away) to trigger their attack, dash through (empty dash for i-frames), wait for their attack to finish (watch out for the slightly delayed spin), then go for damage when they recover.
Except that it’s useless vs bosses
high damage boost, wall slam still works on bosses if they’re near a wall (doesn’t actually move them), boon that makes slam attacks deal more damage to bosses,
oh and rupture, gets nice damage on final boss
Oh, I didn't know wall slam still hit bosses that don't move if they were close to walls, that's sorta cool. I was wondering why the bonus boss damage was a boon to begin with when some seemed pretty immobile
I did enjoy Poseidon with Zeus, but by chance, lucking into getting both his legendaries pretty early meant I played around with other God's more to fill out the boon prophecies
Finally have all the ||hidden aspects.||
When does Demeter show up?
Killed the mino and had spear guy down to almost dead and then I ate a spear
Sucks
Had a funky cool Poseidon and Dionysus build. Festive Fog is a lot of fun, especially with the speed debuff
Gotcha
Does equipping one of the God things work mid-run? Like, I equipped Poseidon's Conch but then 'ol boy didn't show up until 4 or so rooms in
It also won't guarantee that the next reward will be that boon
2/5 against redacted now, just got my second win
Are Duos a set rarity?
The next random god boon will be, in this case Poseidon, but that could be rooms and rooms away. Also there are some situations where Hermes is locked in as a reward, and they'll give you a quippy line about butting in when that happens.
Thanks, Muffins. Hermes did show up
Duos are about as rare as legendaries i think but also require you to have at least some boons from both gods. There's a chart on a wiki for what boon combos work, but usually, if the boon requires a specific cast boon, then you need that. Generally, the boons that prereq for Duos are the 'main' boons. (Attack, special, cast, dash, call.)
So to have a chance at say Zeus/Dionysus, you'll need Trippy Shot, and a zeus attack/special/dash/call.
Yeah. I have that thing where I can look at the Boons and what their pre-reqs are
If i am missing something, i welcome correction.
This ||Persephone|| scene reminds being a messenger between my (split up) mom and dad throughout childhood in a funny way
"Tell your father yada yada"
"Well tell your mother this and that"
back and forth like a ping pong ball
What are the requirements for Herme's Plume? What's "quickly?"
timer pops up under the sidebar
if you beat it before it runs out you get the bonus
anyways thats exclusively for a certain location's fish
you can probably guess
I wonder if I should unlock the administrative chamber or one of the gameplay buffs
Make things easier on myself or get more of that juicy lore
@white dew even blood and ambrosia
that's awesome!
this fishing rod is gonna be hella worth it then
Is unlocking the chamber worth it?
what?
okay I've done about 50 runs and beat the third boss, but I haven't seen Thanatos. When does he show up?
The fishing things that give you diamonds, blood, and ambrosia only have one room where they can spawn @white dew :)
Slightly disappointing but still cool
@ripe wave i already met Tomatos
even i have almost same 50-60 run
i already maxed him
@versed dune and that room is.....?
Do tell
@thorny wedge ||surface||
Brt lol
brt?
0 win?
Yeah
Just have to work on my build, still working through all the weapons and maxed out the mirror at least
@thorny wedge what weap ur favorite
Most successful with the Blade, but also the Shield seems OP for blocking dmg and movement (Bull Run).
Fists but need a lot of deflect boons
not really, fists can be succesful without a single deflect boon
@thorny wedge yeah shield is op
see Zeus go brrrr build as an example :3
In the hands of a skilled and seasoned player, which I am not - yet
@pastel cipher stacking Dentore (sp?) frost I assume?
Is there a list of “main” builds for various play styles?
support fire works incredibly well on fists
a nice kinda safe build base is athena attack, artemis dash into deadly reversal
Shield is something I would call safe
Definitely not OP by any means
Don't think any of the weapons are "overpowered"
Each person will do better with different weapons
Unless you're Bablo or Wriste and a beast with em all
there isn't a way to block with shield without first performing an attack that wastes time swinging, right?
is it just me or does Holy Shield actually makes you immune from poison?
apparently the tick procs it and deflects subsequent ticks
apparently not
there isn't a way to block with shield without first performing an attack that wastes time swinging, right?
@long moss there is not
I'm bout to boot up Hades and play for the first time, wish me luck
shield lets you bypass some of the learning of enemy patterns to get the first clear, but once you learn those patterns and don't have any need to turtle, shield falls in line with the other weapons
good luck lee!
I'm bout to boot up Hades and play for the first time, wish me luck
@queen mason Welcome to Die!
Never helped me for my first clears since I never figured out the charge blocked stuff until my second run with it lol
Never liked the shield much
Even with out charge block, the knock back on the basic is decent Melee, and the ranged special is really useful for giving you a safe option. It is a nice beginner weapon
Even in the final boss, ||it can bounce off the walls to hit Hades while you hide behind the pillars. Works great with Ares Doom and lots of stuff. ||
yup
blitz disk yeah?
you want to build zeus on himself, he's not great at base but gets amazing as you go up his tree
fists and rail (eris especially) enjoy zeus attack, zeus shield enjoys zeus special
gotcha
if you have the hidden aspect for bow, it loves zeus special
i don't, and only have 1 thing to upgrade out of the 2 necessary for starting on my shield. kinda my first run lol
i keep getting to final boss but i never make it past
If it's your first run, don't even think about "builds"
Just play around and experiment with things
alrighty, thanks then
Builds are for high heat clears
ah that makes more sense
Dont worry too much about it, all weapons can win a run with pretty much any boons at the base difficulty
If you're starting out, investing in Mirror perks is way, waaay more important than what boons you get within a run
already done that and am like 2 keys away from what i think is the final set of perks
The 30 keys one?
mhm
Alright then. Strongly recommend you invest in Priviledged Status, its damage boost is ridiculous
i'll give it a look when i get the chance
Definitely the thing that propelled me from floundering to winning 16 runs in a row
Privileged can be a bit tricky to proc without some planning though, Family Favorite is pretty consistent (and relatively low-cost I think) on its own.
Yeah but 40% is waaay higher than 10-20%
Sure, and I used Privileged for all my runs now. Getting started though FF is going to be more consistent.
Need to use it at some point for the Fated List anyway 
If you remove a stacking boon do you lose the stacks ie thanatos/hermes
Priveledged requires you consiously keeping it active though, something that's not reliably possible on all builds
Yes. That’s why I stick with ||Persephone|| of the three, @flint shuttle
Technically not a stacking boon!
I meant in terms of clearing rooms conditions on boons
Priveledged requires you consiously keeping it active though, something that's not reliably possible on all builds
@pastel cipher Well, not in hallway fights, but on bosses you can do it quite realiably even with the Tier 2 debuffs
If you remove a stacking boon do you lose the stacks ie thanatos/hermes
if you mean the keepsakes (butterfly and feather), yes if you remove them, the bonuses go away
So it really comes down to personal preference and what build you wanna go for what you pick in FF or PS
@pulsar frigate thank you
How do you spoiler tag things? Just getting back into Discord
|Test|
||spoiler||
Oh
Or highlight something you typed and select “Mark As Spoiler”
o/
PS/FF is weird because it breaks the usual rule of purple and green mirror upgrades, normally purple is the more straightforward one and green is the odd one you have to build around
anyone got tips for asphodel when using the shield?
keep chucking myself into the lava and taking a ton of damage
I suggest not doing that.
Happens to me all the time still
Minimize your bullrushing.
but shield goes vroom XP
Prioritize Hermes dashes to get outta there, then
Xp
start thinking about your positioning and practicing quicker reactions and such
I think my favorite weapons so far is the sword, shield, and the || Talos aspect || for the fisty cuffs
that Aspect made my build so good
That and the hidden aspect are a lot of fun
Booooo
ive had the most success with the spear, but the most fun witht he shield
like how the hell do people manage to pull it off
Bow is great haha
I can't fight the 3rd realm bosses with it well enough
Dashing, lots of dashing
Hello friends, I'm currently farming titan blood and darkness
Blood and Darkness!
lots of dashing, get the rapid fire one from the hammer is very important
Just got the hidden shield aspect, idk if it's worth my blood to level
but I'm doing well with explosive shot as well
You know sadly I had rapid fire when I was about to get to || Hades || BUT I ACCIDENTLY SWAPPED OUT THE UPGRADE
thanks Anvil
also how do you get the hidden shield aspect? I assume it has to be friending somebody
#h1-story-discussion 2nd pinned message
Wow ya folks have it covered lol
so "gitgud" is the response to asphodel XD
No, "git gud" in response to playing Hades
Or, ya know, just turn on God Mode. We won't tell
i mean, i can't sit at your computer and pinpoint everywhere you need to bullrush to 
i meant it jokeingly XP
it's just a matter of practice and knowing what you need to practice
I mean, if the job pays...
your advice was helpful XD
oh lol
@muted latch thanks
favorite part of shield is you can block all sorts of stuff in boss fights
That’s how I abused it when fighting || Hades and Theseus ||
It was great cause I also had the upgrade that lets it become a charged shot instead of a bullrush
shield is very busted and safe (but I dont like it at all)
invested everything I have into spear and bow
I recently unlocked the secret aspect for the sword
Can’t wait to try that out on a run
It feels very fun to use while slow
I tried it earlier, felt very fun and chunky
the damage is insane though
I’ve played into the special for it a few times, nice to get the buff when the special is your main mode of damage anyway
why doesn't sword dash strike work to neutralize the really fat purple orbs the elysium casters shoot?
@long moss I haven't tested it, but my guess would be that it's not a super wide and/or long swipe animation, so it probably misses a lot of their butterflies, which you end up dashing into.
I think they mean the witches with their large, splitting bullets
And my experience, which might be wrong, has been that the sword dash-strike is really thin, so the damage pops the orb, but then doesn't pop the spreading bullets that come out from it
Oh! Hmm, my guess would be the same there. I have the least experience with the sword, so don't take my word for it.
Also, what you said @wispy cedar
i hate the sword move set so much
Is the only way to earn new bounties to escape?
Every weapon has its own bounty tracker
So i have the first 3 bounties for each weapon on 0 and 1 heat. Before i can get bounties for 2 heat, do i need to escape?
I think so
man the theseus & minotaur fight is insufferably spammy
the bosses get easier after a while
ofc
99% of this game is learning what enemies do tbh lol
it's a lot less progression based than it lets on
well the 2 even with extreme measure still isnt as annoying as Lernie extreme measure
big disagree there
i just really hate lava especially with the +400% damage from trap
please keep in mind ||heat|| is spoilers in this channel
oh alright, thank you
no worries ^_^
Man, I thought it'd take me a while to get 10 wins, but I got 6 straight today and I'm at 8 lmao
I'M FEELING THE RUSH
does minotaur have a super fast charge attack he uses aftger being stationary for a long time?
Yeah, he has this charge where he follows you, try to guide him into pillars when he's on your heel.
The one where he throw Theseus maybe?
ah maybe that's what it was
something flew at me instantly and it wasn't a spear but it killed me so I didn't see what it was
Didn't even know they had this attack, is it if they're close together only?
Theseus will call out "Bullhorn" or something like that when they do it. They have two combo moves like that.
The other one involves Asterius running at Theseus full speed and colliding with his shield, sending out a large shockwave.
how do i unlock aspects? do i need to do a run after i unlock the last weapon?
do a couple more runs and it unlocks
The one where he throw Theseus maybe?
@steel patrol wait what
must be rng but i have never seen this
seen the shockwave one, but i would definitely remember asterius yeeting his buddy at me
ngl i kinda love it
theseus: doing gimli impression “Ye’ll have te toss me!”
Asterius, Yeeter of King
bullhorn is him throwing Theseus
Honestly when I got to Theseus I was full on expecting him to pull an Ornstein after defeating the ||minotaur||
I have never seen either of these team attacks what
I'm 65 hours in and I've never seen these
They sound awesome
He shouts bullhorn like 3 times a fight for me idk
Honestly when I got to Theseus I was full on expecting him to pull an Ornstein after defeating the ||minotaur||
no one seems to be spoiler marking the 3rd boss so idk how spoilering half helps
bullhorn is him throwing Theseus
what
I thought it was the ||Achilles aspect Raging Rush thing||
Theseus shouts “Bullhorn!” then Asterius yeets him
I love that so much
I didn’t know there was a 3rd part to that fight 🤷♂️
That’s what it looks like kinda but it’s a throw
I need to see it
never knew
I didn’t know there was a 3rd part to that fight 🤷♂️
There isn’t..
I always had to run like hell whenever I hear bUlLhOrN
Must’ve misinterpreted what you said
oh shoot
The shockwave one is much more missable cause there’s no callout
It just looks like a bigger version of what Asterius does when he’s under 50% hp
no one seems to be spoiler marking the 3rd boss so idk how spoilering half helps
yeah this should be on story and spoilers or discussion... i think
how do I do spoilers on this discord?
Ohhhh okay I thought he meant like the 3rd part of said boss fight. Not the literal 3rd boss of the run. Lol
And spoilers are 2 of these —->|| around text
thanks
So it ends up like ||this||
Guys, Hermes is my favorite god but should I give him all the nectars ?
and Im confused now ;-;
He doesn’t seem like he can offer you strong boons
Nectar doesn’t do anything with boons
|test|
2 of them on each side
give everyone one then give them to whoever you want
You can give them to Dusa even
||I know that I have to beat the game 10 times to get the "real" ending. But do I need a specific heat level for it? Or could I do 10 wins on 0 heat and still get the ending?||
Is there a trick to reliably beating Meg that I'm missing? The fights so busy that I spend so much time dodgling everything that inevitably I make enough mistakes in dodging that my health goes down much faster than hers
||nothing specific, just beat it 10 times||
Burst damage is what you need to do
ty Ari
And beating Meg is just a matter of knowing all her tells and DPS checking her
A lot of damage at one time and then move out of the way
It gets different later on but fundamentally...that’s how I find that she’s taken down the easiest
spoilers bro
Bruh that’s so many spoilers
my ad
Easiest to take her down with the shield and gauntlets
will post in other chhannel
use || on both sides to cover spoilers
@tame hedge I can't even get close with either of those
||Hi there, I can't manage to unlock the aspect of Guan Yu. I've been told I need to acquire the Fated List, unlock at least 5 other aspects and fight Hades. But still nothing.. Can anybody help?||
||a lot of it is random chance||
When you get the ||2x dash|| it helps
Bow and spear with extra damage effects on hit from boons is what I've managed sobfar
The only attack Meg has that poses a significant threat is her bullet hell attack; which just takes learning to walk through properly
@versed dune well aren't you awesome

The best times to just go HAM on her are right after her dashes
Guys
She usually charges her spin after a dash
Why does my sword have a bonus of gained obsidians ?
That’s the 2nd one though isn’t it?
You go for ||the other two|| after dashes
The 2nd dash I mean
Why does my sword have a bonus of gained obsidians ?
Each time you finish a run a random weapon will have a 20% boost to gained darkness
Cause she does 2 in a row if you don’t aggro her
Ah, right
Is it eternal ?
it lasts until the game picks another weapon
Oh ok
I don’t believe it can pick the same one twice in a row actually; so just one run
So should I take the weapon with the bonus even though I prefer another one ?
Like is it so worth you are obliged to take it ?
||Spoilers just in case but idk, Whats the easiest way to farm Darkness?||
||I've beaten the game once for reference||
||Continuing to farm a heat level that you've already beaten, probably||
||Spoilers just in case but idk, Whats the easiest way to farm Darkness?||
||0 heat.||
||so farm 0? xD||
Isn’t there a keepsake that doubles it?
No
one of poseidon's boons do increase the awarded darkness
but afaik no keepsakes do that
Lol Poseidon. I love Poseidon.
Id need that one mirror effect to get that reliably tho right
oh yeah, that boon that I never take lmao
I never take the cast boons
man, those poseidon "reward up" boons fill me with hatred
Id need that one mirror effect to get that reliably tho right
@lethal whale no mirror effects change the spawn of that one
I never take the cast boons
@tame hedgewhat
and cast boons are amazing, your cast is pretty worthless without them
they're pretty mandatory
I know but I never use my cast so it doesn’t matter lol
I never took cast boons either until I started using ||Stygian Soul||
Regular cast is traaaaash
The only one I had any decent usage out of was the lightning cast.
I’ve managed to do a full clear with every weapon now...besides the bow
And that was only when I was using the shield
Athena cast is genuinely incredible
I freaking love the shield man
I ran Stygian Soul for a long, long time, and swapped back to Infernal lately.
Athena cast worst cast
nope
sigh mb
is there like a priority list of which upgrade to get from the mirror? idk which one to level up rn
Infernal has the upside that you generally only need one cast to lodge anyway, it's easier to handle than praying for Chaos or Well when running cast builds, and that Ravenous Will isn't a complete waste of a boon.
death defiance, hp per room, base hp up @lusty grove
I ran ||Stygian Soul|| for a long, long time, and swapped back to ||Infernal|| lately.
i feel like those two serve different purposes
@versed dune But pooping out diamonds gems is fun
I’ve managed to do 3 full clears of the shield in a row
The shield is so op
It blocks literally EVERYTHING
I know it has such a massive frontal AoE
Bullrush yeah
does is block DURING the rush?
Yes
whew
It has all the effectiveness of the gauntlets
@near sail ||does it block Hades laz0r beams of death?||
shield 3+||sudden rush|| = easy cruise
Yes
And the ||skull waves||
whelp time to clear with the shield lol
It blocks everything that isn’t magma basically
I hate when single player games are balance patched with stuff like that
It’s never made sense to me
Borderlands 3
Shield is easy mode cause of this

I WANT THAT ZAG EMOTE PLZ ;-;
It’s in this server
it’s in the server...

Emojis on discord
The emote button
bruh im serious
That ones better

does it corrospond to a "normal" emote?
@pastel cipher i maxed out the first 8 upgrade for the red one, and no 1, 4, 6, and 9 for the green one. and have around 890 left to upgrade the other.
I dont like the emote button ;-;

rip me
[insert ||confused dionysus saying man, you hurt my feelings|| here]
Dude fighting || a pissed off Aphrodite is the worst thing ever ||
It’s sooooo hard and annoying to deal with the projectiles
||YOU MEAN BEST THING EVER||
Aphrodite is the bees knees in Hades
It’s sooooo hard and annoying to deal with the projectiles
Not to mention athena deflect not working on the projectile
The most down to earth interpretation I’ve ever seen
Ill get smacked around by her ANY daynight of the dayweekmonth god time is confusing down here
Now call me crazy but I think Artemis is best god waifu

Or Athena
excuse you
Artemis is great too
She is
someone is CLEARLY forgetting about 
No I haven’t
this may have to go to discussions channel, lots of spoilers
|| I’m romancing her right now ||
Artemis best god girl
Sorry D:
cant cerberus be a god in my eyes so I can have it be best girl? :D?
I’m tired and it’s late so I’ll probably go to bed, gnight all!
idk if cerberus is boy girl or what so uh
Just don’t let Dante into Hades
nite del
so sexy tho 


