#h1-for-new-players

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quasi rover
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Is it worth unlocking the Zeus shield? Or is it just pretty bad at Level 1 and it's better to upgrade other aspects?

lyric forge
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Zeus at level 1 doesn't really do a whole lot. Should still work with Zeus or Dio special on it but I'd probably take other aspects first.

quasi rover
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I already have Nemesis, Hera and Talos unlocked and 2 blood left. So now I'm debating whether to keep leveling Talos or unlocking the Zeus shield

scenic hamlet
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I would upgrade the zag shield,

lyric forge
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Before you take Zeus shield I'd rather either upgrade Talos, or maybe grab Eris rail.

green tinsel
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shackle cast build sounds preddy nice

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none of the casts are super op like there are for other damage types

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and urge to kill/chaos are like the only ways to increase cast damage aside from crits and stuff

sick anchor
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What should I spend Gems on? Most choices seem cosmetic

green tinsel
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the ones in first menu until they’re all diamond only

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then lounge

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after that it doesn’t matter

sick anchor
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Thanks Zeph

green tinsel
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all g

versed obsidian
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i havent beat redacted yet, should i focus on getting mirror upgrades or just go for a win run?

green tinsel
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spoiler that name

obsidian locust
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Final boss is spoilers @versed obsidian

versed obsidian
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mk

green tinsel
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or change to redacted

odd forge
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I mean, how many attempts have you made?

obsidian locust
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Also to answer your question, you can easily get a win run without the mirror

scenic hamlet
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yeah just pick Artemis

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Or Ares

obsidian locust
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YES

scenic hamlet
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Or Zeus

obsidian locust
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No

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Just Artemis

scenic hamlet
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yeah just Aphoridte

versed obsidian
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attemps are below 30

obsidian locust
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Excuse me?

odd forge
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eyes yummi

obsidian locust
scenic hamlet
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What? its either Aphoridite, or Zeus or Ares

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Did i say Artemis? my mistake

obsidian locust
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🔫 dusa

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Shush you

scenic hamlet
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:c

obsidian locust
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Ah no but my opinions aside, any god works, but AAAA work great on any weapon

scenic hamlet
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ah yes, the god AAAA

obsidian locust
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Artemis, Athena, Ares and Aphrodite

scenic hamlet
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oh Athena is absolutely scary

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Memes aside, Artemis is really strong, but Athena just makes you a wall

versed obsidian
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what are your favourite weapons?

obsidian locust
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I love every weapon squirtnya

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All of them are powerful

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None are weak or trash, and neither are they OP

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So anything will work

versed obsidian
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i know, i was just asking for preferences

odd forge
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Well, it depends on your playstyle

obsidian locust
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I think I enjoy bow the least

loud cape
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Yeah its a nice change of pace from isaac

odd forge
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I find that the shield tempts me to be too static; and similarly with the Rail

valid lodge
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this weapon

loud cape
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Where some power ups made you useless to the point of ruining runs

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Glares at The Wiz

odd forge
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I think I probably prefer the spear

valid lodge
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whoops its not letting my upload, but the weapon anvil thing that makes the shield charge shoot a shield is pretty op

scenic hamlet
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Isaac runs are clearly superior in that it completely coats the screen with absolute nonesense

ashen vault
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is tempest strike bad on melee? i mean enemies are knocked into walls even harder, right?

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Or not

ornate remnant
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for some weapons, yeah

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definitely not the best on fists

keen fog
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What's the channel to talk. About boss strategies?:)

ornate remnant
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@keen fog for all other than the final boss, this channel is alright. Probably #h1-builds-and-combat is a better place though, unless you really want to avoid spoilers

obsidian locust
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Issac is bullet hell thus the nonsense on the screen 😅

scenic hamlet
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Isaac is great!

obsidian locust
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Agreed

scenic hamlet
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I have like 600 hours on it

obsidian locust
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Not as much as you, but a good amount

scenic hamlet
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its nothing

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you know like a certain huntress

keen fog
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How does aspect ||of hera work? Instead of throwing cast I put it into my bow and shoot? Seems like waste of time or am I missing something?||

scenic hamlet
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Its pretty fun when you load it with other types of casts

keen fog
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Ohhh, I see why it can be good now!

pastel cipher
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like dio :3

obsidian locust
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Yeah, you can load 3 into one shot and just let go for massive damage

scenic hamlet
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Do keep in mind, it doesnt work well with other casts

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I think it works well with Ares, Poseidon, Artemis, and Zeus

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Might be missing some that are balls to the wall good but those are off the top of my head

keen fog
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Athena turns it into a small explosion, so I guess could be good for grouped enemies

lyric forge
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Dionysus is the big one for Hera.

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As it removes the lob mechanics.

keen fog
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Is there a way to look at my last run boons?

gray haven
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You can unlock something like that eventually. It'll be obvious when you get there, if I remember right.

warm surge
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There will be a room where you can view every single run you've done

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The room will be unlocked through work order, just progress through the story

heavy yoke
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is there a way to get back the titan blood I spent? like a reset like the one on the mirror

foggy zephyr
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no

leaden whale
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can i have the default saved games please

lyric forge
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Titan Blood can be refunded if you haven't entered any other house room since spending it, i.e. no going back to Zag's chambers or ending a run by dying or winning.

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Once you have done that Titan Blood is non-refundable.

solar flower
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F

languid narwhal
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for bow is the attack or special better for artemis?

daring oracle
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Which bow are you using?

brave fiber
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how do i get duo and higher rarity boons? I'll watch youtube vids to see how people play with certain aspects, and before theseus they'll already have two duo boons and a legendary, whereas i get mainly commons and no duos at all

daring oracle
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I usually go for Special if I’m using Artemis with Bow. Because you have multiple hits and more chances to critical

foggy zephyr
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rarity is random, duo boons and legendarys have requirements, check your Codex and God or a wiki to find out the required boons

brave fiber
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ah ok, gotcha

daring oracle
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There are things in the mirror that you can unlock to increase the odds of rarer boons. Or upgrade rarity at Eurydice

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And I believe.... Poseidon(?) has a boon that increases the odds for Rare boons A LOT in a given run

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There is also a mirror upgrade that lets you re-roll boons for a new set

split dome
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It's pretty late-game tho

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Expensive af

pastel cipher
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It's not incredibly expensive now

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The costs for FA and FP got nerfed hard in 1.0 (it's mentioned in #hades-patch-notes from memory)

hazy trellis
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Hoo... Final boss time again.

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Let's see if I can get the win.

cobalt geyser
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what is max lvl for boon and when diminishing returns starts to kick in?

lavish gazelle
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no known max level, and it depends on the boon

daring oracle
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There’s only the limit of how many you can get in a run, not a level cap

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Diminishing returns could be after 1-2 levels or it could be something that’s fine to keep leveling

lyric forge
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Diminishing returns set in immediately for essentially anything that isn't Crystal Beam or Dionysus boons.

south cipher
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Is it worth it to try and farm all boon prophecies early (even if it breaks my build)?
Or should I just try to go as far as possible for now? (so far I have only beaten the ||minotaur|| a few times)

foggy zephyr
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definitely go for prophecies

south cipher
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I don't mean just picking fated choices when I see them, but also the prerequisites

foggy zephyr
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it's not hard to try and build for them

cobalt geyser
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it's good to unlock all upgrades that not decor with gems, after that it's not so important to do gem prophecies.

south cipher
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I have like 1 remaining for each god but it's hard to get them to spawn 😦

foggy zephyr
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1 or 2 choices wouldn't break your game

south cipher
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ok ty 🙂

hazy trellis
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I'm mad.

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||Fighting Hades, thought I won, Ahahahaha NOPE.||

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Not even two death defies helped..

mild mist
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Yeah

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that happens

wild cloud
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Ah, but that’s perfect. Something more to strive for.

mild mist
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Try again

hazy trellis
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Or that duo boon that ||regenerated your health when you have no more death defies.||

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Mrgh

mild mist
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wait how

wild cloud
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Plus you can get a third defiance. We believe in u.

mild mist
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just camp if you have that duo

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how can you screw that up

hazy trellis
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I uh, did.

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Wombo combo'd

mild mist
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HOW

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JUST RUN

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THE WHOLE FIGHT

languid narwhal
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in the ||last area|| are the more expensive god boons higher rarity?

mild mist
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Yes @languid narwhal

languid narwhal
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cool

wild cloud
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A lot of mobs can do significantly more damage than you can outheal w/ Stubborn Roots so you still have to have decent dodging ability

mild mist
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||Second phase hades has no mobs|| @wild cloud

hazy trellis
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Kinda hard to run when all the mechanics in the fight suddenly combine together into a massive 'boi you're going back to the haus'

wild cloud
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I mean that in general. Including the final boss, who can do quite a bit.

lavish gazelle
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||second phase isn't quite as scary as it looks once you get there a few times||

meager shuttle
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||second phase is easier by far imo||

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||sit in the circle free dmg||

mild mist
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Tag spoilers

lavish gazelle
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||it's a lot more predictable than the first phase||

mild mist
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unpopular opinion

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ready for this

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this is major spoilers

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||EM4 phase 3 is really easy||

meager shuttle
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it slapped my ass cheeks

mild mist
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How

meager shuttle
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had a close range build

mild mist
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Fair

meager shuttle
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and ive only done it that one time

mild mist
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I had bow

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lol

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rolled it second try

meager shuttle
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i did first try but it did almost kill me

wild cloud
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Also Krak, if you like playing around w/ Stubborn Roots, Stubborn Defiance plays super well with it, assuming you’re able to fully abuse it every room.

hazy trellis
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About that, I'm wondering if I should use either Olympian Favor or Dark Foresight.

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Probably not gonna use Stubborn Defiance at the moment.

mild mist
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Olympian favor is pretty good

coral plank
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I'm new, stuck at the boss of ||Elysium||. Mostly use the bow for high damage with ||black shawl||, or the spear. My death defiance is only leveled up once, and recently got ||lucky tooth|| which could help me beat the area's boss, but I'd rather not die at all. Any tips?

mild mist
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Kill the minotaur

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Biggest problem

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When he charges, you can dash through the pillars in the arena

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he cant

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so he'll run into them

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Theseus is a matter of paying attention to the reticle

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so you dont get sniped

hazy trellis
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Yeah, ||Deal with the bull first, try to keep behind your target and watch out for spears from the other guy, also the bit about running him into the pillars might not work all the time so be ready just incase.||

mild mist
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Sometimes you can run him into walls

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but thats harder to do consistently

coral plank
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||Even if I ran the minotaur to the pillar, his slash attack would still connect I assume||

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Unless he stops on the pillar

mild mist
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no he stops

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the slash doesnt connect either

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you're on the other side of the pillar

coral plank
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Alright thanks

hazy trellis
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Well, I guess I'll start a new run and then take a break to untilt.

lavish gazelle
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and yeah, you don't want to brute force through the fight by using up all your Death Defiances and the tooth, you want to be in good condition for the final stretch

split dome
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I hate ||Minos'|| charge

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It feels so wonky

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Sometimes he sinewaves towards me and I'm like ah, why

smoky dagger
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I'm so sad,|| i had an extremely good built for DPS but got killed by Hades. It's mainly because i'm not taking the death defiance or any kind of regen from the mirror. ||

hollow yarrow
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Sometimes he sinewaves towards me and I'm like ah, why
@split dome|| jump over the pillar or jump over the guy with the shield.||

smoky dagger
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Aspect of ||Hera + Artemis' cast with even more boosts did so much damage it's crazy||

buoyant sigil
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yo how do i get the ||guan yu|| aspect

ruby acorn
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@buoyant sigil keep playing and talking to Achilles, at some point he talks about ||having a dream and something about a crimson phoenix. After that go to the spear and Zag will chant the words Achilles said. Probably after reaching the end with spear.||

daring oracle
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Says you need to unlock ||5 other aspects (besides base / Zagreus aspects)||, fight ||the final boss at least once||, and talk to ||Achilles|| .

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Also you need ||the Fated List||

pure minnow
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Been playing for a week and really enjoying the game, out of curiosity, anyone playing on a switch pro controller? I'm using the handheld and have carpal tunnel. It's really brutal on my wrists. Wondering if the pro controller is more ergonomic/hand friendly lol.

daring oracle
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raises hand

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Switch Pro Controller is the best thing I’ve bought for the Switch

harsh leaf
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Joycons are really bad for any kind of action game, yeah

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Pro Controllers are expensive but waaaay cheaper than physical therapy and doctor appointments

daring oracle
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It’s my favorite game controller

foggy zephyr
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the 8bitdo controllers are really great and cheap too, been using my SN30 Pro + since it has a turbo button for many games

pure minnow
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Sick! Got a big paycheck this week so might grab one. I've been playing a lot of "hard but fun" games so it's probably worth it 😭

long moss
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is anything considered cheesy/noobcrutch? I get that feeling from ||cursed sword|| and ||various shield bash shenanigans||, just asking so I git gud without playing on some broken combo (if there are any)

glacial finch
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i think shield allows you to get away with not having to dodge certain attack patterns that you'll want to learn how to dodge regardless

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but i wouldnt consider shield a crutch or anything

dim stirrup
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If it seems broken, it's working

formal rover
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if you're before your first clear, i wouldn't worry too much about combos that make the game easy

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if you're after your first clear ||turn up the heat if its too easy||

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basically; yeah shields make the game easier, but learning shield play is as valid as learning any other weapon

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re: cursed slash, opinions vary wildly as to whether its any good lol

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i personally avoid it on serious runs

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If it seems broken, it's working
also kinda this

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roguelikes are made to be broken

split dome
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I would argue that while you can steamroll with shield, you can steamroll even harder if you've played all other weapons and had the epiphany that you can dodge pretty much every attack if you just have the right timing

formal rover
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that's true; i wouldn't recommend playing only shield (or only any weapon)

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mixing it up will build your fundamentals a lot faster

long moss
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i finally got to the point where i've started unironically using my cast sometimes

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which of the powerups I get are boons and which aren't? for purposes of ||eurydice's +1 to levels of 4 random boons thing||

muted latch
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everything you get from olympian gods are

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so basically anything that is not currencies, hammer and pom (||Eurydice's effect is basically a big pom||)

formal rover
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some boons aren't upgradable tho

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like duos

muted latch
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yep, has to be one with a level

long moss
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so not ||dark thirst||, what about ||enshrouding affluence||

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well some things I know are levelable don't show level at level 1 it seems

formal rover
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mirror options aren't boons

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boons are the rewards given by gods that appear on the left side of your screen

long moss
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yeah the mirror options also show on the left side of the screen so I was trying to clarify... and hammer doesn't count either?

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||enshrouding affluence|| is a ||chaos thing||

muted latch
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only things you get from talking to an olympian god in a run

formal rover
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you can't upgrade hammers, no

muted latch
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anything else is not

long moss
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is there a way to tell when actually looking at them?

formal rover
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oh yeah chaos boons also can't be upgraded

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sorry thought that was the money mirror option for some reason

long moss
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like I have Crush Shot which doesn't like, say it's from her

muted latch
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yeah again, it's not from an olympian god

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so it's not something she can do

long moss
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Crush Shot is from aphrodite

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but it doesn't say her name on it or anything

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just wondering if I can tell at a glance which things could possibly benefit from a pom

viral pewter
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which aspect should i first try with the spear?

smoky dagger
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How do you get more titan blood ?

muted latch
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6 from first ||Fury|| kill on all weapons, after that you will need to do higher difficulty runs

flint eagle
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@smoky dagger bounties prophecies broker and fishing

long moss
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can you respec the titan blood? I am super reluctant to invest

muted latch
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no you cant. try experiment with some aspects, dont worry about progress on those runs, give up and return to try another

long moss
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wait what?

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does it not lock in unless you win the run or something?

muted latch
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give up reverts you back to pre run status

long moss
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oooh

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so with the ||gloves|| a hammer option was to make special be a kick that strikes twice, but special already strikes twice...?

midnight granite
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What's a reasonable damage output for Elysium?

rich kernel
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do yall prefer running zeus or chaos shield?

flint eagle
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chaos all the way

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for me

teal shuttle
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aspect of ||guan yu|| and ares cast is so fun especially in ||styx||

long moss
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does taking Crystal Beam mean I'll never have a cast "in an enemy" for purposes of those mirror buffs?

teal shuttle
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yeah if you dont see the cast icons it doesnt work

flint eagle
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@teal shuttle how does ares cast works with GY?

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mb u wanted to say Achiles aspect?

teal shuttle
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huh

long moss
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if I don't recover my casts do I get them back at the end of a level? like if I don't walk and get it

teal shuttle
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i was talking about slicing shot and ||gy||

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and yeahn you do get your casts back

midnight granite
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How do the consumable guarantees work? Like, there's one for Chaos and another for Infernal Trove

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And its wording is something to the effect, "Guarantees * where possible"

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What's that mean?

flint eagle
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@midnight granite some rooms cant have chaos gates

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or throves

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so u will have it in 1st room where it possible to appear

midnight granite
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Gotcha

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And do Defiance refills only appear in shop when I have too few gold? lol

flint eagle
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and if u have lost some

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not rly

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u can have kiss even if u low on gold

long moss
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what is the window like for Quick Recovery (dash afteer getting hit)

flint eagle
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very short rly

random frost
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if you're non-stop dashing anyways it shouldn't be an issue i don't think

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it's fairly short, but not too hard to hit

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also if you ever get the ||hazard bomb hammer upgrade for the rail||, spec immediately into special, mine got to 713 ish a pop close to the end of my run

frozen tartan
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hey there. is there anywhere a overview of all the boons and which boon has what prerequisite to show up?

flint eagle
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@frozen tartan yes

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u can buy codex upgrade for that

frozen tartan
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ah...thx! and outside the game? any big chart, where all boons are listed an which is up to date?

flint eagle
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wiki

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Hades Wiki

Boons are upgrades given by the gods to help Zagreus in his attempts to escape the underworld. They can be obtained as rewards for clearing a room marked with the respective god's symbol or purchased for 150 from Charon's shop (as of the update from January 29th. Before it wa...

Hades Wiki

Duo Boons are a type of Boon which combines the powers of two different gods for a unique effect. Duo Boons can only be obtained with the correct prerequisite boons and, like normal boons, are lost when Zagreus dies and returns to the House of Hades.
There are currently 28 Duo...

stiff lake
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Can anyone tell me how to unlock Blank on a new file? done like 40 runs, seen the ending, unlocked almost all non hidden aspects but achilles won't say anything about the spear?

flint eagle
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@stiff lake gy is kinda spoiler 1st

stiff lake
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sorry

flint eagle
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all hidden aspects are spoilers

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u can have all info u need in that message

stiff lake
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All right thanks! was just wondering if there was anything else maybe? Not sure if the Dialog is being like passed over because of all the progress being made elsewhere with the ending and whatnot? Just on my old file (pre 1.0) I had all aspects before I'd even done 30 attempts.

flint eagle
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cant say rly dude

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i start new save after release

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and opened it kinda fast

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let me say

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around 40

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40th run was already with that aspect

faint umbra
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keep talking to nyx, she will eventually tell you about it

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no, in the house. sometimes she is missing

flint eagle
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someone tell me pls how does Talos fists works

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@leaden whale do another run

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and look her after

random frost
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i got the lambent plume to max level and it won't let me gift anymore to hermes, what am i doing wrong here? i talk to him with it equipped but i got nothing. sorta confused rn

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i've gifted all up until the last heart with the lock icon on it

stable breach
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so I've finished my first run and my fav weapon so far is the spear, and I like both ||aspect of guan yu|| and aspect of hades
which one should I upgrade of now? ||aspect of hades is the one I use more considering how punishing default guan yu is, but I feel like I should invest my titan blood early on for it||

flint eagle
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i think secret is way better

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i do not love spear

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hades aspect especially cus spin attack is too slow and dangerous to use

normal flame
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hades spear is great

flint eagle
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not for me

normal flame
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you don't spam spin attack though, it's just how you apply your debuff

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if you dash out of an uncharged spin you remain pretty safe, that's a good way to debuff enemies

flint eagle
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i know how does it work

normal flame
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that's the main thing that makes hades spear feel good, dashing into and out of spins so you're not just standing there

flint eagle
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still it dangerous to just stay and charge it

normal flame
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the uncharged spin is pretty fast though

stable breach
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I like playing with aspect of hades
debuff ofc but the spin also gives you decent aoe if you really need it

normal flame
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yeah it's nice against swarms of weaker enemies

stable breach
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deflect on attack makes some encounters laughably easy

normal flame
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for chonkier enemies though you should just spin on them once and then do your main damage with your attack or special

stable breach
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yeah it's just nice to have the option

normal flame
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for sure, deflect on spin feels awesome

stable breach
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||guan yu|| is really fun in general though

normal flame
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that's out of my wheelhouse haha, haven't really used it

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I think both aspects need heavy investment to really shine tho

stable breach
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hades is def usable by default though
||guan yu is a bit less so
only having 30% health is rough||

normal flame
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yeah hades is more than good enough for clearing the game unupgraded, but the damage really skyrockets with more blood

lyric forge
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Hades is my favorite aspect of the Spear line. Achilles and Hidden Aspect are probably better in terms of raw power and safety, but I just love chonking people with that thing.

normal flame
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and congrats on your first clear btw squirtyay

stable breach
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thank you
I got that one duo boon where your blood stone basically becomes a lightning rod
and I was rolling shield so that made things a lot easier

normal flame
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I haven't gotten that one yet but it sounds like a lot of fun

flint eagle
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this duo is kinda lame imo

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u dont want ur stones just lay on the ground

long moss
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if I switch keepsakes to antoher god's one will the "next boon will be zeus" take effect? or is that only at the start of the whole run

flint eagle
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yes u can

stable breach
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I don't use casts much anyhow so it made for an interesting strategy

flint eagle
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and next will be god u choose

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@stable breach if u use cast build u use it as main source of dmg and dont want lose it

stable breach
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yeah for cast builds it's not great

flint eagle
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if u dont use cast build u use cast as damage multiplier and still dont want them lay an the ground

stable breach
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I usually just forget about using it as a multiplier a lot of the time tbh

pastel cipher
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Except the damage is additive

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The majority of +% damage in Hades is additive

flint eagle
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@pastel cipher i dont speak english good enough to say it coorrectly sorrry

pastel cipher
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All good ^_^

scenic oyster
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should i buy a titan blood?

foggy zephyr
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? Cash don't get carried over different runs

scenic oyster
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yeah but should i get boons or titan blood

foggy zephyr
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blood

scenic oyster
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ok

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thanks

pastel cipher
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||the Hades fight is spoiler in this channel|| @scenic oyster

foggy zephyr
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you need a lot at the beginning

scenic oyster
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sry

weary sedge
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hey quick question can i save my game mid run

scenic oyster
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yes

weary sedge
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i just beat the minotaur and thesues for the first time but i need to go

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so i can just leave the game?

scenic oyster
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if it saved

muted latch
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if the game allows you to quit, you are safe to quit

scenic oyster
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it saves when you enter a new chamber

muted latch
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dont use give up

foggy zephyr
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just don't alt+f4, it might reset your run

weary sedge
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okay thank you guys!

scenic oyster
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should i buy a titan blood for an Ambrosia?

foggy zephyr
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is that the limited time exchange?

patent cedar
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I wouldn't suggest trading boss resources

foggy zephyr
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you do need Ambrosia but you'll have excess if you keep doing runs and fulfilling prophecies so it's your choice, Blood gets more usage at the start/mid game

patent cedar
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When you need ambrosia you tend to need a lot of it though

flint eagle
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u do not need ambrosia in early games

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u can waste a little

scenic oyster
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it isn't the limited time exchange

foggy zephyr
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yeah but if you don't upgrade all your ||companions like Skelly or Dusa|| , you "should" have an excess

patent cedar
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Ambrosia is harder to get than titan blood though

flint eagle
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@foggy zephyr i work only with 1 comp

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see no reason to use other

lyric forge
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Even if you do upgrade all of them. There are a lot of prophecies that reward Ambrosia, and usually chunks of it. For essentially the entirety of the game I had way more Ambrosia than I actually had uses for the stuff.

flint eagle
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mb when i have ||bouldy ||i will change it but i see no reason to upgrade all ||comps||

foggy zephyr
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you want to work with other ||companions|| just for the Codex entry

scenic oyster
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I think i am going to keep the Ambrosia for now

flint eagle
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well maybe but i have more intresting moments

clever narwhal
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do i only get 1 diamond boss drop per weapon?

tame hedge
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God this game is so good

long moss
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idk, I die a lot, that means it's bad

lyric forge
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If you die constantly you're doing it right.

flint eagle
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@clever narwhal yes

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only other ways to find diamonds are prophecies and fishing

clever narwhal
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kk

rose compass
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awesome game, another winner from this dev

weary sedge
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do you only get titans blood from meg or do you get more later on

rose compass
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i see that others are dying a lot, glad to hear that's normal 😛

flat fractal
#

Is there any plot progression reason to sell my boons?

stoic goblet
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iirc blood is a reward for boss one and four?

flint eagle
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@stoic goblet yes

foggy zephyr
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@flat fractal just for money

flat fractal
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Ok

flint eagle
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and if u dont need this boon and u dont want it was a burden in ur run

long pine
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@stoic goblet you one from the final boss as well

weary sedge
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can you get more blood from trades?

long pine
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I think so, but I cant remember exactly

flint eagle
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@weary sedge there are 4 way to get blood in game

weary sedge
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because i traded one of them early on for like keys because i didnt know what they did lol

flint eagle
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1st - bounties
2nd - prophecies
3rd - Broker
4th - fishing

weary sedge
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okay cool ty

daring oracle
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@clever narwhal one diamond drop per weapon per ||level of heat|| which you unlock after your first completion.

thorn quarry
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How does ||Demeter|| Cast work with the Hera Bow?

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Does it just... Leave a crystal behind on impact?

leaden whale
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is shield good

pulsar frigate
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some say the best

leaden whale
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cool

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i like spear personally

pulsar frigate
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i personally don't like it much, but eh

leaden whale
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yeah

flint eagle
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shield is stupidly strong

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too strong to ignore

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both mobility and invincibility in 1 move

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that is something

scenic oyster
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should i buy a diamond for 1000 coins?

flint eagle
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@scenic oyster if u feel strong enough to finish run

leaden whale
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Always @scenic oyster

flint eagle
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or weak enough to fail anyway

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buy

scenic oyster
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ok

white dew
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Third tussle with redacted lost

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I got real close though

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damn

flint eagle
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@white dew call him redacted or final boss pls

white dew
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build was pretty good I just didn't play well enough I think

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feels bad

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I was going to go for a rupture build like last time but I haven't gotten a knockback boon yet, and now Demeter is offering an attack boon (+78%) and a special boon (+111%)

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which would you folks pick if you were me

frosty knoll
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What weapon are you using?

white dew
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aegis

frosty knoll
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Personally I recommend the attack boon, but if you find yourself using special a lot (with a particular aspect, for instance) then go for the special.

white dew
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My thing is I really want good DoT, especially for the last two boss fights

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this is chaos aspect so I use the special quite a bit

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how does chill fair against theseus and redacted though?

frosty knoll
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Chill is generally just a good debuff imo, especially if you stack some of Demeter's later boons

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It's very versatile and I use it all the time, strongly recommend for Redacted if you have time to build up some Demeter boons.

white dew
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this is still tartarus so I can do that. what does she add on top though?

frosty knoll
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She can build Chill to do some damage, debuff further than the initial speed debuff, and her Legendary boon is exceptionally useful for bosses.

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She also combos well with the other Gods/Goddesses.

white dew
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I took the special one

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let's see what build I can make from this

frosty knoll
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Good luck in your escape attempt!

white dew
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thanks!

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I've escaped 1/3 matches against redacted so far

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let's make it 50%

frosty knoll
leaden whale
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If I skip heat levels do I get the previous tiers rewards?

haughty nacelle
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yes, but you can only get one run of bounties per escape

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so if you have bounties for heat 1, for example, but do heat 2 - you get the bounties from heat 1 only

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then if you do another run at the same heat, heat 2, you'd get the heat 2 bounties normally

leaden whale
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Fair enough

gilded condor
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any tips on the 3rd area's boss?

rose torrent
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I usually start with the minotaur. Stay behind the columns to avoid Theseus spear throws

daring dove
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Big guy first, try to dodge out of the way of spear/shield guy's spear

flint eagle
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@gilded condor Start big guy and try to stay behind him and hide behind columns from spear

rose torrent
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When Asterius is charging lead him to a column

gilded condor
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yeah i did big guy my 2nd time

daring dove
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Theseus' ability after halfway is so devestating

gilded condor
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but i seem to struggle against spear guy

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why does he have a shield

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😔

flint eagle
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when bull dies

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it become easier

rose torrent
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You'll have a pink crosshair on you when he throws the spear, look out for that

daring dove
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His AI makes him turn really quickly towards the player, but he does walk slowly off to attack

gilded condor
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yeah i usually see that

rose torrent
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That spear does the most damage

daring dove
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shows his back to you

gilded condor
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ahi see

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i'll try that out next time

rose torrent
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Zeus boons ignore shield too

flint eagle
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theseus have 2 attacks - throw and spin after both he is vulnerable

gilded condor
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back to hell i go

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zeus boons you say?

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aight

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that should for now

harsh leaf
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Status curses are applied even on shield, I think

versed dune
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Easiest ways to deal with Theseus imo is Doom or Artemis arrow boons (her Cast, Support Fire, her Call, etc)

flint eagle
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@harsh leaf nope

versed dune
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Status curses are applied even on shield, I think
They are not

harsh leaf
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Oh? Hm

rose torrent
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Zeus works because it's an actual lightning bolt projectile

flint eagle
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zeus is not good for some weapons and aspects

rose torrent
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I'm just saying it's good against shields 🙂

versed dune
#

Also note that when Theseus uses ||his call; he gains the status effect of whatever god her summoned||, also ||he can Crit you if he calls upon Artemis||

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Lightning is the least effective of the ways of ignoring shields

river garden
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Pure zeus is pretty meh unless you get Jolted

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Just hit Theseuse's ass

versed dune
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Even then unless you get “jolted isn’t removed upon attack” he’s still meh

pulsar frigate
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the best way to ignore shields is to hit their back squirtyay

flint eagle
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@versed dune he uses most of gods typical effects

river garden
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the best way to ignore shields is to hit their back squirtyay
@pulsar frigate There we go zagluv

versed dune
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he uses most of gods typical effects
@flint eagle that’s what I said

flint eagle
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oops sry

versed dune
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He just can’t Mark you

pulsar frigate
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no but seriously, the best things you can learn in this situation are enemy patterns and positioning ability

versed dune
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so he crits you directly instead

river garden
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no but seriously, the best things you can learn in this situation are enemy patterns and positioning ability
This, you need this if you wanna win with any build

versed dune
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I mean that’s true; but that’s such a blanket statement for any game like this

pulsar frigate
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you don't need "workarounds" like piercing effects or artemis cast/aid when you know how to set yourself up in a favorable position, this is very critical to your success

versed dune
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Almost as bad as “get good”

river garden
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It is

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I've been picking fated boons and I was killing last boss back to back after my first kill

versed dune
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Nah always take Artemis cast, opop

pulsar frigate
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for theseus, after he spins or throws his shield, he always walks away from your position, back side towards you

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this is your chance to strike

river garden
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I had some godawful runs and I had no problem killing theseus

flint eagle
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artemis cast is one of the worst imo

leaden whale
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what to do with gods blood or something I forgot

pulsar frigate
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when he activates his call, he's vulnerable from all angles and is basically a sitting duck, attack now

flint eagle
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@leaden whale upgrade weapon

leaden whale
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where tho

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I couldn't find it

pulsar frigate
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when greatshields, the enemy, attack, they always stand still for a moment, this is when you get behind them and strike

river garden
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@leaden whale you havent unlocked it yet, keep playing and you will eventually 🙂

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||Will happen once you get all the weapons, good luck||

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I think the best way for new players is to keep grinding fated boons, just see whats out there and test out whats OP and what is not

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There is some really bad duo boons (like Aphro + Demeter) and some boons that can singlehandedly win you the run, even though they seem crap

versed dune
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Agree; find the builds you personally like

river garden
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I thought Poseidon was trash when I started playing, now I absolutely love it

versed dune
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Popo with the big damage

flint eagle
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pos still one of the worst 4 me

river garden
#

Also found out why so many people think the bow doesn't click for them. Had my gf play hades for the first time, she couldn't get the bow. Realized it's a controller thing, since on mouse and keyboard that weapon is so much easier to use.

harsh leaf
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I can use bow fine with controller, though I imagine it's easier with mouseaim

flint eagle
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do bosses hve some DR?

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my cast should damage 266

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but 3 casts at once do 666

daring oracle
#

Poseidon can basically clear most fights with just dash

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Especially when you add rupture on knockbock and bonuses for slamming into walls

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I think Poseidon on Chiron Bow is my favorite type of build

meager shuttle
#

Except that it’s useless vs bosses

versed dune
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It’s not at all

gray haven
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when greatshields, the enemy, attack, they always stand still for a moment, this is when you get behind them and strike
Rather, run up to them (not away) to trigger their attack, dash through (empty dash for i-frames), wait for their attack to finish (watch out for the slightly delayed spin), then go for damage when they recover.

versed dune
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Except that it’s useless vs bosses
high damage boost, wall slam still works on bosses if they’re near a wall (doesn’t actually move them), boon that makes slam attacks deal more damage to bosses,

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oh and rupture, gets nice damage on final boss

thorn quarry
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Oh, I didn't know wall slam still hit bosses that don't move if they were close to walls, that's sorta cool. I was wondering why the bonus boss damage was a boon to begin with when some seemed pretty immobile

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I did enjoy Poseidon with Zeus, but by chance, lucking into getting both his legendaries pretty early meant I played around with other God's more to fill out the boon prophecies

jolly quartz
#

Finally have all the ||hidden aspects.||

midnight granite
#

When does Demeter show up?

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Killed the mino and had spear guy down to almost dead and then I ate a spear

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Sucks

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Had a funky cool Poseidon and Dionysus build. Festive Fog is a lot of fun, especially with the speed debuff

flint eagle
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@midnight granite afaik u have to escape

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for Dem

midnight granite
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Gotcha

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Does equipping one of the God things work mid-run? Like, I equipped Poseidon's Conch but then 'ol boy didn't show up until 4 or so rooms in

flint eagle
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it guarantee boon ONCE

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only thing it does after - increase rarity chance

warm orbit
#

It also won't guarantee that the next reward will be that boon

white dew
#

2/5 against redacted now, just got my second win

midnight granite
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Are Duos a set rarity?

warm orbit
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The next random god boon will be, in this case Poseidon, but that could be rooms and rooms away. Also there are some situations where Hermes is locked in as a reward, and they'll give you a quippy line about butting in when that happens.

midnight granite
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Thanks, Muffins. Hermes did show up

warm orbit
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Duos are about as rare as legendaries i think but also require you to have at least some boons from both gods. There's a chart on a wiki for what boon combos work, but usually, if the boon requires a specific cast boon, then you need that. Generally, the boons that prereq for Duos are the 'main' boons. (Attack, special, cast, dash, call.)

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So to have a chance at say Zeus/Dionysus, you'll need Trippy Shot, and a zeus attack/special/dash/call.

midnight granite
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Yeah. I have that thing where I can look at the Boons and what their pre-reqs are

warm orbit
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If i am missing something, i welcome correction.

white dew
#

This ||Persephone|| scene reminds being a messenger between my (split up) mom and dad throughout childhood in a funny way

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"Tell your father yada yada"
"Well tell your mother this and that"

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back and forth like a ping pong ball

midnight granite
#

What are the requirements for Herme's Plume? What's "quickly?"

thorny lantern
#

timer pops up under the sidebar

white dew
#

Holy crap the chef can give you diamonds?

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Score!

thorny lantern
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if you beat it before it runs out you get the bonus

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anyways thats exclusively for a certain location's fish

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you can probably guess

white dew
#

I wonder if I should unlock the administrative chamber or one of the gameplay buffs

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Make things easier on myself or get more of that juicy lore

flint eagle
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@white dew even blood and ambrosia

white dew
#

that's awesome!

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this fishing rod is gonna be hella worth it then

#

Is unlocking the chamber worth it?

flint eagle
#

what?

white dew
#

the administrative chamber

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at the renovator's

flint eagle
#

well not a much big deal for gamplay

#

but for some parts of the story

white dew
#

hmmm

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I think I'll do a gameplay upgrade for now then

ripe wave
#

okay I've done about 50 runs and beat the third boss, but I haven't seen Thanatos. When does he show up?

versed dune
#

The fishing things that give you diamonds, blood, and ambrosia only have one room where they can spawn @white dew :)

white dew
#

Slightly disappointing but still cool

flint eagle
#

@ripe wave i already met Tomatos

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even i have almost same 50-60 run

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i already maxed him

thorny wedge
#

@versed dune and that room is.....?

flint eagle
#

not only actually

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there at least 2)

thorny wedge
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Do tell

flint eagle
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@thorny wedge ||surface||

thorny wedge
#

Brt lol

flint eagle
#

brt?

thorny wedge
#

Be right there

#

40 Exits and 0/2 on redacted.

flint eagle
#

0 win?

thorny wedge
#

Yeah

flint eagle
#

with 2 attemps?

#

well you will do it

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one day or another

thorny wedge
#

Just have to work on my build, still working through all the weapons and maxed out the mirror at least

flint eagle
#

@thorny wedge what weap ur favorite

thorny wedge
#

Most successful with the Blade, but also the Shield seems OP for blocking dmg and movement (Bull Run).

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Fists but need a lot of deflect boons

pastel cipher
#

not really, fists can be succesful without a single deflect boon

flint eagle
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@thorny wedge yeah shield is op

pastel cipher
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see Zeus go brrrr build as an example :3

thorny wedge
#

In the hands of a skilled and seasoned player, which I am not - yet

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@pastel cipher stacking Dentore (sp?) frost I assume?

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Is there a list of “main” builds for various play styles?

flint eagle
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for fist should work zeus and dio mb

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also support fire should be good

pastel cipher
#

support fire works incredibly well on fists

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a nice kinda safe build base is athena attack, artemis dash into deadly reversal

thick plinth
#

shield is very op
I almost escaped from Elysium today

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shield + poseidon blessings

pastel cipher
#

Shield is something I would call safe
Definitely not OP by any means

harsh leaf
#

Don't think any of the weapons are "overpowered"

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Each person will do better with different weapons

pastel cipher
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Unless you're Bablo or Wriste and a beast with em all

long moss
#

there isn't a way to block with shield without first performing an attack that wastes time swinging, right?

muted latch
#

is it just me or does Holy Shield actually makes you immune from poison?

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apparently the tick procs it and deflects subsequent ticks

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apparently not

ornate remnant
#

there isn't a way to block with shield without first performing an attack that wastes time swinging, right?
@long moss there is not

queen mason
#

I'm bout to boot up Hades and play for the first time, wish me luck

lavish gazelle
#

shield lets you bypass some of the learning of enemy patterns to get the first clear, but once you learn those patterns and don't have any need to turtle, shield falls in line with the other weapons

ornate remnant
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good luck lee!

harsh leaf
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I'm bout to boot up Hades and play for the first time, wish me luck
@queen mason Welcome to Die!

random frost
#

Never helped me for my first clears since I never figured out the charge blocked stuff until my second run with it lol

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Never liked the shield much

thorn quarry
#

Even with out charge block, the knock back on the basic is decent Melee, and the ranged special is really useful for giving you a safe option. It is a nice beginner weapon

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Even in the final boss, ||it can bounce off the walls to hit Hades while you hide behind the pillars. Works great with Ares Doom and lots of stuff. ||

ornate remnant
#

yup

random frost
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might give that a go

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what weapons are good for a zeus build?

harsh leaf
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Shield second aspect, anything with fast attacks

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Or go ham with a zeus cast build

random frost
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blitz disk yeah?

pulsar frigate
#

you want to build zeus on himself, he's not great at base but gets amazing as you go up his tree

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fists and rail (eris especially) enjoy zeus attack, zeus shield enjoys zeus special

random frost
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gotcha

pulsar frigate
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if you have the hidden aspect for bow, it loves zeus special

random frost
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i don't, and only have 1 thing to upgrade out of the 2 necessary for starting on my shield. kinda my first run lol

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i keep getting to final boss but i never make it past

harsh leaf
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If it's your first run, don't even think about "builds"

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Just play around and experiment with things

random frost
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alrighty, thanks then

harsh leaf
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Builds are for high heat clears

random frost
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ah that makes more sense

harsh leaf
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Dont worry too much about it, all weapons can win a run with pretty much any boons at the base difficulty

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If you're starting out, investing in Mirror perks is way, waaay more important than what boons you get within a run

random frost
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already done that and am like 2 keys away from what i think is the final set of perks

harsh leaf
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The 30 keys one?

random frost
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mhm

harsh leaf
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Alright then. Strongly recommend you invest in Priviledged Status, its damage boost is ridiculous

random frost
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i'll give it a look when i get the chance

harsh leaf
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Definitely the thing that propelled me from floundering to winning 16 runs in a row

random frost
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god damn

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thanks for all the pointers yall

brazen sonnet
#

Privileged can be a bit tricky to proc without some planning though, Family Favorite is pretty consistent (and relatively low-cost I think) on its own.

harsh leaf
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Yeah but 40% is waaay higher than 10-20%

brazen sonnet
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Sure, and I used Privileged for all my runs now. Getting started though FF is going to be more consistent.

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Need to use it at some point for the Fated List anyway zaglol

flint shuttle
#

If you remove a stacking boon do you lose the stacks ie thanatos/hermes

pastel cipher
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Priveledged requires you consiously keeping it active though, something that's not reliably possible on all builds

daring oracle
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Yes. That’s why I stick with ||Persephone|| of the three, @flint shuttle

harsh leaf
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Technically not a stacking boon!

daring oracle
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I meant in terms of clearing rooms conditions on boons

harsh leaf
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Priveledged requires you consiously keeping it active though, something that's not reliably possible on all builds
@pastel cipher Well, not in hallway fights, but on bosses you can do it quite realiably even with the Tier 2 debuffs

pulsar frigate
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If you remove a stacking boon do you lose the stacks ie thanatos/hermes
if you mean the keepsakes (butterfly and feather), yes if you remove them, the bonuses go away

pastel cipher
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So it really comes down to personal preference and what build you wanna go for what you pick in FF or PS

flint shuttle
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@pulsar frigate thank you

brazen sonnet
#

How do you spoiler tag things? Just getting back into Discord

daring oracle
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||

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On either side of what you type

brazen sonnet
#

|Test|

pulsar frigate
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||spoiler||

brazen sonnet
#

Oh

daring oracle
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Or highlight something you typed and select “Mark As Spoiler”

brazen sonnet
#

||test||

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Thanks!

indigo skiff
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o/

lavish gazelle
#

PS/FF is weird because it breaks the usual rule of purple and green mirror upgrades, normally purple is the more straightforward one and green is the odd one you have to build around

indigo skiff
#

anyone got tips for asphodel when using the shield?

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keep chucking myself into the lava and taking a ton of damage

spare marsh
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I suggest not doing that.

harsh leaf
#

Happens to me all the time still

spare marsh
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Minimize your bullrushing.

indigo skiff
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but shield goes vroom XP

harsh leaf
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Prioritize Hermes dashes to get outta there, then

indigo skiff
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Xp

pulsar frigate
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start thinking about your positioning and practicing quicker reactions and such

near sail
#

I think my favorite weapons so far is the sword, shield, and the || Talos aspect || for the fisty cuffs

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that Aspect made my build so good

brazen sonnet
#

That and the hidden aspect are a lot of fun

woeful ivy
#

my fav is uh oh god

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spear

near sail
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my least favorite

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bow

brazen sonnet
#

Booooo

indigo skiff
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ive had the most success with the spear, but the most fun witht he shield

near sail
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like how the hell do people manage to pull it off

brazen sonnet
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Bow is great haha

near sail
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I can't fight the 3rd realm bosses with it well enough

brazen sonnet
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Dashing, lots of dashing

inner yew
#

Hello friends, I'm currently farming titan blood and darkness

near sail
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Blood and Darkness!

muted latch
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lots of dashing, get the rapid fire one from the hammer is very important

inner yew
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Just got the hidden shield aspect, idk if it's worth my blood to level

muted latch
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but I'm doing well with explosive shot as well

near sail
#

You know sadly I had rapid fire when I was about to get to || Hades || BUT I ACCIDENTLY SWAPPED OUT THE UPGRADE

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thanks Anvil

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also how do you get the hidden shield aspect? I assume it has to be friending somebody

muted latch
inner yew
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Wow ya folks have it covered lol

indigo skiff
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so "gitgud" is the response to asphodel XD

harsh leaf
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No, "git gud" in response to playing Hades

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Or, ya know, just turn on God Mode. We won't tell

pulsar frigate
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i mean, i can't sit at your computer and pinpoint everywhere you need to bullrush to dusa

indigo skiff
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i meant it jokeingly XP

pulsar frigate
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it's just a matter of practice and knowing what you need to practice

brazen sonnet
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I mean, if the job pays...

indigo skiff
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your advice was helpful XD

pulsar frigate
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oh lol

near sail
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@muted latch thanks

indigo skiff
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favorite part of shield is you can block all sorts of stuff in boss fights

near sail
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That’s how I abused it when fighting || Hades and Theseus ||

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It was great cause I also had the upgrade that lets it become a charged shot instead of a bullrush

muted latch
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shield is very busted and safe (but I dont like it at all)

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invested everything I have into spear and bow

near sail
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I recently unlocked the secret aspect for the sword

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Can’t wait to try that out on a run

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It feels very fun to use while slow

harsh leaf
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I tried it earlier, felt very fun and chunky

umbral flame
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the damage is insane though

brazen sonnet
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I’ve played into the special for it a few times, nice to get the buff when the special is your main mode of damage anyway

inner yew
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I just finished my required stubborn defiance run

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Never using that garbage again

long moss
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why doesn't sword dash strike work to neutralize the really fat purple orbs the elysium casters shoot?

south thicket
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@long moss I haven't tested it, but my guess would be that it's not a super wide and/or long swipe animation, so it probably misses a lot of their butterflies, which you end up dashing into.

wispy cedar
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I think they mean the witches with their large, splitting bullets

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And my experience, which might be wrong, has been that the sword dash-strike is really thin, so the damage pops the orb, but then doesn't pop the spreading bullets that come out from it

south thicket
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Oh! Hmm, my guess would be the same there. I have the least experience with the sword, so don't take my word for it.

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Also, what you said @wispy cedar

long moss
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i hate the sword move set so much

hidden roost
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Is the only way to earn new bounties to escape?

wispy cedar
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Every weapon has its own bounty tracker

hidden roost
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So i have the first 3 bounties for each weapon on 0 and 1 heat. Before i can get bounties for 2 heat, do i need to escape?

wispy cedar
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I think so

rugged inlet
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Yes

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Once you escape with 1 heat, there's all new bounties for 2 heat

long moss
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man the theseus & minotaur fight is insufferably spammy

leaden whale
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the bosses get easier after a while

long moss
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ofc

wispy cedar
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99% of this game is learning what enemies do tbh lol

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it's a lot less progression based than it lets on

leaden whale
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well the 2 even with extreme measure still isnt as annoying as Lernie extreme measure

wispy cedar
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big disagree there

leaden whale
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i just really hate lava especially with the +400% damage from trap

pastel cipher
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please keep in mind ||heat|| is spoilers in this channel

wispy cedar
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oh alright, thank you

pastel cipher
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no worries ^_^

calm pecan
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Man, I thought it'd take me a while to get 10 wins, but I got 6 straight today and I'm at 8 lmao

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I'M FEELING THE RUSH

long moss
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does minotaur have a super fast charge attack he uses aftger being stationary for a long time?

lyric forge
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Yeah, he has this charge where he follows you, try to guide him into pillars when he's on your heel.

long moss
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no I mean like a fast one

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like shield charge speed

steel patrol
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The one where he throw Theseus maybe?

long moss
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ah maybe that's what it was

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something flew at me instantly and it wasn't a spear but it killed me so I didn't see what it was

calm pecan
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Didn't even know they had this attack, is it if they're close together only?

lyric forge
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Theseus will call out "Bullhorn" or something like that when they do it. They have two combo moves like that.

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The other one involves Asterius running at Theseus full speed and colliding with his shield, sending out a large shockwave.

indigo skiff
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how do i unlock aspects? do i need to do a run after i unlock the last weapon?

clever narwhal
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do a couple more runs and it unlocks

formal rover
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The one where he throw Theseus maybe?
@steel patrol wait what

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must be rng but i have never seen this

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seen the shockwave one, but i would definitely remember asterius yeeting his buddy at me

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ngl i kinda love it

winged gate
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throw Theseus
you sure that's not bullhorn?

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lol that'd be great

formal rover
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theseus: doing gimli impression “Ye’ll have te toss me!”

winged gate
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Asterius, Yeeter of King

versed dune
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bullhorn is him throwing Theseus

tame hedge
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Honestly when I got to Theseus I was full on expecting him to pull an Ornstein after defeating the ||minotaur||

wispy cedar
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I have never seen either of these team attacks what

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I'm 65 hours in and I've never seen these

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They sound awesome

versed dune
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He shouts bullhorn like 3 times a fight for me idk

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Honestly when I got to Theseus I was full on expecting him to pull an Ornstein after defeating the ||minotaur||
no one seems to be spoiler marking the 3rd boss so idk how spoilering half helps

winged gate
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bullhorn is him throwing Theseus
what

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I thought it was the ||Achilles aspect Raging Rush thing||

versed dune
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Theseus shouts “Bullhorn!” then Asterius yeets him

wispy cedar
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I love that so much

tame hedge
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I didn’t know there was a 3rd part to that fight 🤷‍♂️

versed dune
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That’s what it looks like kinda but it’s a throw

wispy cedar
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I need to see it

winged gate
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never knew

versed dune
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I didn’t know there was a 3rd part to that fight 🤷‍♂️
There isn’t..

winged gate
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I always had to run like hell whenever I hear bUlLhOrN

tame hedge
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Must’ve misinterpreted what you said

winged gate
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oh shoot

versed dune
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The shockwave one is much more missable cause there’s no callout

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It just looks like a bigger version of what Asterius does when he’s under 50% hp

winged gate
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no one seems to be spoiler marking the 3rd boss so idk how spoilering half helps
yeah this should be on story and spoilers or discussion... i think

lethal whale
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how do I do spoilers on this discord?

tame hedge
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Ohhhh okay I thought he meant like the 3rd part of said boss fight. Not the literal 3rd boss of the run. Lol

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And spoilers are 2 of these —->|| around text

lethal whale
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thanks

tame hedge
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So it ends up like ||this||

barren marlin
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Guys, Hermes is my favorite god but should I give him all the nectars ?

lethal whale
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and Im confused now ;-;

barren marlin
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He doesn’t seem like he can offer you strong boons

versed dune
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Nectar doesn’t do anything with boons

lethal whale
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|test|

tame hedge
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2 of them on each side

versed dune
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give everyone one then give them to whoever you want

lethal whale
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wait is it like ||THIS||?

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ugh

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alright

tame hedge
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You can give them to Dusa even

lethal whale
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||I know that I have to beat the game 10 times to get the "real" ending. But do I need a specific heat level for it? Or could I do 10 wins on 0 heat and still get the ending?||

boreal gale
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Is there a trick to reliably beating Meg that I'm missing? The fights so busy that I spend so much time dodgling everything that inevitably I make enough mistakes in dodging that my health goes down much faster than hers

wispy cedar
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||nothing specific, just beat it 10 times||

tame hedge
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Burst damage is what you need to do

lethal whale
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ty Ari

wispy cedar
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And beating Meg is just a matter of knowing all her tells and DPS checking her

tame hedge
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A lot of damage at one time and then move out of the way

lethal whale
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^

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hell I still think I suck at the game but I can ALWAYS get through Tartarus

tame hedge
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It gets different later on but fundamentally...that’s how I find that she’s taken down the easiest

lethal whale
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spoilers bro

versed dune
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Bruh that’s so many spoilers

obsidian vale
#

my ad

tame hedge
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Easiest to take her down with the shield and gauntlets

obsidian vale
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will post in other chhannel

lethal whale
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use || on both sides to cover spoilers

boreal gale
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@tame hedge I can't even get close with either of those

obsidian vale
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||Hi there, I can't manage to unlock the aspect of Guan Yu. I've been told I need to acquire the Fated List, unlock at least 5 other aspects and fight Hades. But still nothing.. Can anybody help?||

wispy cedar
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||a lot of it is random chance||

tame hedge
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When you get the ||2x dash|| it helps

boreal gale
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Bow and spear with extra damage effects on hit from boons is what I've managed sobfar

tame hedge
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Idk if those types of things are considered spoilers

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But I did it anyway

versed dune
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The only attack Meg has that poses a significant threat is her bullet hell attack; which just takes learning to walk through properly

boreal gale
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@versed dune well aren't you awesome

versed dune
tame hedge
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The best times to just go HAM on her are right after her dashes

barren marlin
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Guys

versed dune
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She usually charges her spin after a dash

barren marlin
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Why does my sword have a bonus of gained obsidians ?

tame hedge
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That’s the 2nd one though isn’t it?

versed dune
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You go for ||the other two|| after dashes

tame hedge
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The 2nd dash I mean

versed dune
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Why does my sword have a bonus of gained obsidians ?
Each time you finish a run a random weapon will have a 20% boost to gained darkness

tame hedge
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Cause she does 2 in a row if you don’t aggro her

versed dune
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Ah, right

barren marlin
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Is it eternal ?

versed dune
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it lasts until the game picks another weapon

barren marlin
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Oh ok

versed dune
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I don’t believe it can pick the same one twice in a row actually; so just one run

barren marlin
#

So should I take the weapon with the bonus even though I prefer another one ?

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Like is it so worth you are obliged to take it ?

lethal whale
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||Spoilers just in case but idk, Whats the easiest way to farm Darkness?||

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||I've beaten the game once for reference||

wispy cedar
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||Continuing to farm a heat level that you've already beaten, probably||

winged gate
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||Spoilers just in case but idk, Whats the easiest way to farm Darkness?||
||0 heat.||

lethal whale
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||so farm 0? xD||

tame hedge
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Isn’t there a keepsake that doubles it?

versed dune
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No

winged gate
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one of poseidon's boons do increase the awarded darkness

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but afaik no keepsakes do that

tame hedge
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Lol Poseidon. I love Poseidon.

lethal whale
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Id need that one mirror effect to get that reliably tho right

wispy cedar
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oh yeah, that boon that I never take lmao

tame hedge
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I never take the cast boons

wispy cedar
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man, those poseidon "reward up" boons fill me with hatred

versed dune
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Id need that one mirror effect to get that reliably tho right
@lethal whale no mirror effects change the spawn of that one

winged gate
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I never take the cast boons
@tame hedge what

wispy cedar
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and cast boons are amazing, your cast is pretty worthless without them

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they're pretty mandatory

tame hedge
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I know but I never use my cast so it doesn’t matter lol

wispy cedar
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gotta use it

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it elevates your play a ton

versed dune
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I never took cast boons either until I started using ||Stygian Soul||

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Regular cast is traaaaash

tame hedge
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The only one I had any decent usage out of was the lightning cast.

near sail
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I’ve managed to do a full clear with every weapon now...besides the bow

tame hedge
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And that was only when I was using the shield

winged gate
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once you have a taste of flurry cast and mirage shot

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welp

wispy cedar
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Athena cast is genuinely incredible

tame hedge
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I freaking love the shield man

lyric forge
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I ran Stygian Soul for a long, long time, and swapped back to Infernal lately.

versed dune
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Athena cast worst cast

tame hedge
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Oops

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My bad

lethal whale
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man cmon

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I cant say the s word

pastel cipher
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nope

lethal whale
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sigh mb

lusty grove
#

is there like a priority list of which upgrade to get from the mirror? idk which one to level up rn

lyric forge
#

Infernal has the upside that you generally only need one cast to lodge anyway, it's easier to handle than praying for Chaos or Well when running cast builds, and that Ravenous Will isn't a complete waste of a boon.

pastel cipher
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death defiance, hp per room, base hp up @lusty grove

winged gate
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I ran ||Stygian Soul|| for a long, long time, and swapped back to ||Infernal|| lately.
i feel like those two serve different purposes

lethal whale
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@versed dune But pooping out diamonds gems is fun

near sail
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I’ve managed to do 3 full clears of the shield in a row

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The shield is so op

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It blocks literally EVERYTHING

lethal whale
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how do you block with the shield

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hold M1?

tame hedge
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I know it has such a massive frontal AoE

near sail
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Bullrush yeah

lethal whale
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does is block DURING the rush?

near sail
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Yes

lethal whale
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whew

tame hedge
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It has all the effectiveness of the gauntlets

near sail
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Also if you hold it forever it just blocks everything

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SUPERGIANT plz don’t nerf

lethal whale
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@near sail ||does it block Hades laz0r beams of death?||

winged gate
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shield 3+||sudden rush|| = easy cruise

versed dune
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Yes

near sail
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Yes it can

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I figured it out myself tonight

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It’s so dumb lol

versed dune
#

And the ||skull waves||

lethal whale
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whelp time to clear with the shield lol

versed dune
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It blocks everything that isn’t magma basically

tame hedge
#

I hate when single player games are balance patched with stuff like that

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It’s never made sense to me

near sail
#

Borderlands 3

versed dune
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Shield is easy mode cause of this

near sail
lethal whale
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I WANT THAT ZAG EMOTE PLZ ;-;

near sail
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It’s in this server

versed dune
#

it’s in the server...

near sail
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You can use it

lethal whale
#

uh

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how

tame hedge
near sail
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Emojis on discord

versed dune
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The emote button

lethal whale
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bruh im serious

tame hedge
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That ones better

versed dune
lethal whale
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does it corrospond to a "normal" emote?

lusty grove
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@pastel cipher i maxed out the first 8 upgrade for the red one, and no 1, 4, 6, and 9 for the green one. and have around 890 left to upgrade the other.

lethal whale
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I dont like the emote button ;-;

versed dune
near sail
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Uhm

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Idk man D:

lethal whale
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rip me

near sail
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It should be just use the emote button and a list of emotes from the server pop up

winged gate
#

[insert ||confused dionysus saying man, you hurt my feelings|| here]

near sail
#

Dude fighting || a pissed off Aphrodite is the worst thing ever ||

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It’s sooooo hard and annoying to deal with the projectiles

lethal whale
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||YOU MEAN BEST THING EVER||

tame hedge
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Aphrodite is the bees knees in Hades

winged gate
#

It’s sooooo hard and annoying to deal with the projectiles
Not to mention athena deflect not working on the projectile

tame hedge
#

The most down to earth interpretation I’ve ever seen

lethal whale
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Ill get smacked around by her ANY daynight of the dayweekmonth god time is confusing down here

near sail
#

Now call me crazy but I think Artemis is best god waifu

lethal whale
near sail
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Or Athena

lethal whale
#

excuse you

tame hedge
#

Artemis is great too

near sail
#

She is

lethal whale
#

someone is CLEARLY forgetting about dusa

near sail
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No I haven’t

winged gate
#

this may have to go to discussions channel, lots of spoilers

near sail
#

|| I’m romancing her right now ||

versed dune
#

Artemis best god girl

near sail
#

Sorry D:

lethal whale
#

dangit coffe you got me there

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but I mean

near sail
#

;3;

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I’m sorry coffee

lethal whale
#

cant cerberus be a god in my eyes so I can have it be best girl? :D?

near sail
#

I’m tired and it’s late so I’ll probably go to bed, gnight all!

lethal whale
#

idk if cerberus is boy girl or what so uh

tame hedge
#

Just don’t let Dante into Hades

winged gate
#

nite del

near sail
#

But isn’t Zag technically a cooler Dante

lethal whale
#

residentzag so sexy tho residentzag