#h1-for-new-players
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ye
yeah save for dd
ok
Having multiple has saved me so many times
Should I get a level in greater reflexes first
Yes
yup
there's a sort of "hierarchy" for items, and titan blood is ostensibly at the top. In general, try to keep as many diamonds, ambrosia, and titan blood as you can before you know what you want to do with them. Once you do, trade/spend them however you want
The second dash is great when starting out
greater mobility is always a plus
It's not even that titan blood is at the top, the sink is redic
allows more leeway
Should I be focusing more on the gems for the contractor? I almost always pass them up?
I eventually switched to the one dash with more damage, but that was after prob 20ish runs
Took me personally 150? hours to never need titan blood ever again
I never see gems
Which gems?
Uhh
I maxed all the weapons so that's why it took me so long
dont remember specificially where
I have the guy
Contractor friend, the work orders are nice
Just haven't seen any gems
Ah him, yeah those are very helpful
Some affect your run like fountains
Every time u beat the second and third boss with a new weapon (either first or second time), you should get some
I'm not entirely sure how it works either XD
I think it might just be the second boss
there's also the scrolls of prophecies which latter on will allow you to have rewards (resources) once you complete a list of objectives
^^ super helpful, got me lots of rewards a lot faster
Question, when is a new player considered no longer new?
the list of fated minor prophecies is a must-get, it gives you rewards for completing all manner of inevitable prophecies which you can use to spend on more house contractor stuff
Good luck!
I guess you're not new once you beat Redacted consistently?
I consider myself new since I started playing like... monday lmao
What is Redacted?
final boss
Uh sorry, Final Boss
Ah okay, that explains a lot
is there like a sticky for which Gods are better at what
Since we're roguelite, being able to consistently clear might be the threshold
Okay, so I guess I'm not new anymore? I'm 4 in a row rn for that
Possibly shrug
I guess whenever you feel you're not new either lol
Never been there before
that game has a long longevity
If i keep making it to the 3rd boss consistently does that mean im no longer new
It gets shorter once you get used to how the bosses feel and such,
I still keep coming up with questions
Especially FB
Very true
Might just come down to when you don't feel new anymore
But once you pass final boss a bunch, you'll be spoiling things at that point 😛
If you saved after spending blood no
Dont think so, but none of em are bad
die and retry is at the center of the mechanic so I feel if you consistently get to the 3rd boss / final boss you might not be new anymore?
if you haven't saved you're good. Like if you just spent and HAVE NOT RETURNED TO BEDROOM
But also since when did you pick up the game?
I picked it up for switch release
^^
I'm at my 3rd day and I got to the final boss so I'm not displeased with myself 😛
Here's a trick with titan blood
Nice!
If you don't want to 'waste' or want to test an aspect. Spend titan blood DO NOT WALK INTO BEDROOM, go on a run do your stuff. Give up. You'll be back at courtyard save so no blood used!
oh yeah!
Does walking back into bedroom do something?
Thanks for the tip!
it saves
the bedroom is the main one
to keep the precious TB
but if you save during the run you can always just give up the run and everything resets to before the run right
Should be yeah
aight solid
Still haven't won with the spear or fists. Any good builds for them?
it's that bedroom save that gets ya
Should i save up Ambrosia or spend it for TB
Fists I go Athena attac cheese
Save ambrosia
Hera bow or Chiron bow?
I feel if you are still getting the weapons down, going for a cast run is always a good option
Hera 100x
I like hera A LOT but some ppl like chiron
Give both a try. Hera only needs first blood to do things chiron might need max
Who’s boons for Hera?
Dio cast and Pos cast have pretty nice duos
^^
I used Artemis for Hera though, stacking and getting exit wounds is amusing
Dio Zeus cast and posidon demeter casts are my favorite
Artemis with those crits
Is the x3 casts better or the other one?
If I go artemis cast, I like to go nemesis blade
Could be helpful
Personal preference. 3x is higher burst
The cooldown cast you mean?
I think 3x cast if you are going for dionysius
I like stygian soul if you can find things that reduce CD or give extra permanent casts
try a run with both see what you like
First run looking for it, I got it
Okay. Thanks. So is it wise to take the Dionysus, to guarantee his boon is first?
Ah Legendary aspect questions go to #h1-story-discussion I believe
i like cooldown on dio 3x on everyone else
xD
Okay! Going to start it up.
haha yeah everytime I see Dyo/dio I'm like
Good luck!
which one?
XD
See if you can grab Athena dash too
Athena dash is so helpful
I take it on every build
Athena Dash can be a lifesaver
Or athena special for bows
Athena is nice to have, can win without Athena though
Yesss
Reflect an entire screen of projectiles
What do you recommend for early heat?
I've been sticking with enemy # but I've beat most of those already
EM is fun
have u tried em and me?
What's that?
Extreme measures
extreme 1&2 are easy to start with
exteme measures and middle management is easy
3 takes some practice
whichever one it is that adds 1 hit of blue health is easy too
I can't play without ||Forced Overtime 2|| I forgot pacts are spoilerish
In this channel at least
Hmm I'll try that, thanks! I have done EM 1, was fun. I'll try em 2 as well
the health shield is annying for the small enemies in elysium and styx
Gotta beat the FB
i figured
It's either Hellmode or beating final boss to get heat stuff
Yeah he's a meanie
Are u running DD and athena dash?
that or 3rd boss man
odd to make pacts spoilers when we have a channel called 'high-heat-strategies'
DD?
death defiance
Also, dont say 3rd boss name
Beats me, it does slightly confuse new players though
Unless they did a hellmode save
What problems u having with FB? You using diff builds? Or FB just does too much dmg?
get dd, skelly's tooth and a full aphro build
Full aphro? That seems a bit much
But def get Aphro, makes attacks hurt way less.
What's the boon that gives you hp regen if you have no DD left?
aphro demeter iirc
Are there community rankings for the weapons since release? I used to feel Chaos was the best weapon, but since the nerf I don't even use it anymore. Now I'm having a ton of fun with the Aspect of Chiron bow. the single focus damage can get real nutty and i won't be surprised if it's up there now.
chaos shield still pretty good
Yeah, I feel like it would get going with the Hammer that knocks the shields on multiple foes. On base, I just have less fun with the special.
that's fair
I just got the hidden shield aspect and so far I’m having mixed feelings
Granted I’m not yet done my first run with it but it just sorta feels odd
Any tips on ||Theseus and Asterius||? I can usually kill ||Asterius|| only needing a stubborn defiance but ||Theseus|| always manages to get me near the end.
whenever theseus spins or throws, he always walks away from your position, use this moment to attack
when he calls for aid, he’s vulnerable from all directions and is basically a sitting duck
hammers that say they can pierce will go through his shield
Hm, ok. I'll try that out
theseus only spins when you’re within melee, he’ll throw most other times (unless doing a tag team move). the throw has a very clear audio and visual cue (dash right when the reticle turns bright red)
Alright then, thx!
👍
Anyone else unable to give hades even a single nectar? I was able to on my old playthrough but on my hell mode one I haven't been able to and I'm at 40+ runs
i never noticed the crosshair turning red before. interesting
what exactly is maim?
um
is it just extra damage on dash upper
so I've beaten ||hades twice|| but lost to him about 15 times. I literally get to the end each time and die. Any tips?
hit him a lot and don't get hit a lot
Learn his moves!
^ and don't get greedy for extra hits if you aren't super confidant
Honestly i only start being careful on my last life so I will win if im just not a moron
i think it's just hes so tanky compared to every other enemy you need to slow down
but i get impatient and try to bust through him like the rest
Switching to Ruthless Reflex (1 dash but increased damage) really helped me to dodge smarter
but with the new aspect you will be something else
how do you unlock the last aspects for weapons?
Usually it involves upgrading that weapon a bit and talking to an npc or God. Like for the bow I know you gotta talk to Artemis
Unlocks are all pinned in #h1-story-discussion
Where can I find the page for simple spear build? I need to clear w/ spear but no idea what to run
Like it's all RNG what boons you get but the people in #h1-builds-and-combat have some reommendations
If you have keepsakes for certain gods you can mitigate some RNG but getting specific boons is still random
What’s the best weapon? I got all 4 available unlocked
"best" in what regard? In terms of carrying you through a run, it seems aegis is the weapon of choice, but in terms of fun factor that's up to personal preference
I like all of them
lol the bow has gotten me the farthest, all the way to Theseus on run 4, while my third total run with Aegis only got me to Meg
the key with aegis lies in that you can charge up your attack while blocking incoming damage, which is extremely helpful with the majority of enemies you face. Try using more Bull Rushes instead of regular attacks when playing with Aegis and you'll probably see yourself taking way less damage and getting way farther with the shield
Honestly there are so many weapons and Boons and play styles that the stuff I love might not work for you and the stuff I hate might be your favorite
Also because of the randomness of the Boons, you just gotta adjust to what you’re given and hope for the best
i like using 1 of the keepsakes to aim for a boon, usually dionysus/ares attack or special then build around it as best i can with what else they give me along the way
Yeah I guess so
Also it’s fun to hear the characters when they speak lol
I only have 3 keepsakes, Skelly’s, Cerberus’s, and Charon’s
yeah you'll get the rest eventually
I equipped Skelly’s because I didn’t have Death Defiance or a way to change keepsakes, but now that I have both 1 Defiance and the regional keepsake what should I use?
i'd just work on playing more, seeing which weapon/boons you like
i spent majority of my early runs just farming basically
if you want a safe but slow playstyle you could try using the bow with doom special imo
just dash around and tag enemies with the special
and once you get more comfortable you could use the special like a shotgun
^
especially with charged volley to help with timing
I got that on the run that got me to Theseus
...Then I died to not seeing the spear because I couldn’t dodge the Bull Rush unless I dropped everything to dodge
But hey, it was my second time fighting Meg and first time with the Hydra, so it wasn’t that bad
deflect works on all attacks not just projectiles
Really?!
Yup
bit harder to get the timing right but it does
charged volley helps with timing and makes it melt through enemies if you shotgun them too
Huh
I unlocked the spear just as I was about to turn the game off, but it seems pretty fun
Is there an Athena boom for the spin attack?
I mean...is there a deflect boon for the spin attack?
I think attack boons should proc on spin attack?
I don't play spear much but I think it's just like a variant attack
I guess I’ll just have to find out for myself lol
how do i give hades another nectar if there's a lock in the heart?
I don’t think Hades Can get more than one
...Unless they change it in a future update we might be locked at one nectar and no keepsake
oh i didnt know that, thanks!
NP
However...I’d fact check that if I were you lol
I only got the game today and know most of my knowledge from a few of the wiki pages and reviews
oh im in the same boat, i got the game 3 days ago but have done no research
I love the game so far
The controls are great and the harder rooms are super intense but the real star of the show is personality and character
...at least in my opinion lol
I am not using dash strike at all because of its difficult to click both at once should I try to learn it or leave it
What weapon?
Sword
From what I’ve noticed (only played bow, sword, and shield outside of Skelly’s room) the Sword has the best dash attack
Sigh time to learn it I guess
@brittle locust to give nectar to hades, just continue to play the game
Dashes are a way of getting in quick, but also dodging or getting out of a tough situation
...WAIT THEY DID CHANGE IT?!
@sleek whale that sounds easy enough
cause locked hearts mean that you've to do some story related event
I am consitently getting to Elysium but dying there so trying to learn new things
@clever path yes, with the release of 1.0
Elysium is essentially a vibe check
facts
If you don't have your build ready by Elysium you are gonna have a bad time
The one time I got to Elysium I died to Theseus
once i figured what enemies did what, the boss was my main struggle
The Bull charge is so hard to dodge
unless u got skill 
i just dash through the bull
...you can do that?
Bull knows how to drift
or that^
He will literally do a u-turn under a second
^
A somewhat surefire way to dodge the bull charge is to run up to a wall and dash sideways at the last second. Basically, Asterius is the bull, and you are the red cape
It’s actually quite funny to watch until he does a ton of damage
idk i just go on auto pilot cause with the both of them alive its wayyyyyy to stressful
Anyway, BoredHub does giving Nectar to Hades do anything for you?
Ye
not the first one
about how much would you have to play to do the second one?
Probably ||beating Hades at least twice|| right?
been grinding darkness as of now
Because he ||pretends the first defeat didn’t happen||
welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
You need to have ||at least gotten to the credit sequence before you can give him a second one.||
i've beat him 9 times and its still locked
@faint vessel just keep progressing the story
Most of the game I have seen is a version that ends after that fight
You'll get there eventually
So I’m so excited for what could come after that
whelp back to the grind then 
im close, but i do stupid stuff like taking the ||anvil|| cause i want to clean up charons shop
Lmao why?
yo one time i had close to 400 health while using the sword, and took it and got the cursed thingy that removes 60% of your health
lol F
lets just say that fight with redacted was short
but still a good run
Damn you beat him that fast? 
just spam attack
lol
i remeber getting world splitter and cursed slash
and thinking "yea i can work with this"
dies to numbskull
i didnt know how to dodge him properly so me hit with the spin cycle

last question, other than refreshing the bounty rewards, does doing high heat give you anything?
cause i got cucked once by AP with a legendart
no
also if i aint mistaken 20+ heat doesnt give you bounties.
the bounties are a secondary reward at best. The real prizes are ||the three useless trinkets that Skelly commissioned and hauled into the courtyard||
are the initial skills that appear on the victory screen your most used or something? you can swap them in and out
That is just there to customize your victory screen so you can highlight the boons you want to highlight and share it through a screenshot 
how come suddenly meg is replaced by Alecto when will that happen
after you fight Meg a few times, the boss fight at the end of tartarus switches to another one of the Fury sisters, and from then on will be random
Just after I thought I can easily defeat meg it is replaced
is golden touch or deep pockets better
deep pockets is more consistent id say
It's basically a question of "do I need to buy early on, or can I get away with not spending until getting to further zones"
if ur farming a lot of gold for the end shop tho go golden touch
Most of the time I feel like I can get away with not purchasing anything for a while, so perhaps Golden Touch is better. But sometimes that instant +100 gold really helps because you can snag an extra boon early that accelerates your build.
Which NPCs are worth pumping full of Nectar?
all of them! each NPC has (at least) one dialogue storyline associated with them. but i'd say def try to at least gift once to each character, as they will give you keepsakes to use and help you in your runs!
Well, all of them, but I love than and meg
Indeed I already gave one to each, I'm asking which ones give worthwhile rewards if you keep giving them more.
I already gave Meg a bunch.
Still than and meg then, though they're gonna want ambrosia later on, not nectar
hey guys in order to unlock ||aspect of lucifer||, do i need to encounter ||hades|| after I unlock ||aspect of guan yu||? or if i've already encountered ||hades||before is that good enough?
what's the max number of Nectar that you can give to someone?
pretty sure it depends
aah so it varies then, alright thanks
Does giving a nectar to a god's boon increase it's rarity?
Codex will tell you if heart is locked or not
Does giving a nectar to a god's boon increase it's rarity?
@limpid mantle no
Ah I thought it does since it kind of flashes
Boons appearance gives no indication of its rarity right?
Sometimes I can see them shining lol
Might just be my imagination
well idk about he other Olympians, but at Rank 1, Ares' keepsake has a +10% chance to increase the boon rarity when you're about to choose one
well idk about he other Olympians, but at Rank 1, Ares' keepsake has a +10% chance to increase the boon rarity when you're about to choose one
@copper root yeah all god keepsakes do that
okay cool
You can set up duo boons with those I think
Still than and meg then, though they're gonna want ambrosia later on, not nectar
@daring dove oh, how many Nectars will they take before we have to start giving them Ambrosia?
I think around 5 or 6
I have a question about the ||true ending||
From my understanding, I’m ||1 win away from it||
Might be better in the story and spoilers channel
Do buffs to Attack also buff your dash-strike?
You mean like aphro's heartbreak strike?
yeah
yes it does
Do buffs to Attack also buff your dash-strike?
@terse breach
But not special, I suppose
any uses for gemstones after i buy the 250 upgrade or just spend it on furniture now?
try exchange it for other things instead
oh yeah forgot i could do that thanks
hello everyone I'm kind of new to the game maybe about 20 hours only
and have managed to beat the game only once so far
I was wondering how to unlock the 4th aspects of weapons
oh thanks!
No problem!
You should check the pins of every channel! The mods have put up extremely useful information for very frequent questions asked
I finally managed to buy the game and I want to ask: Will Hell Mode lock me out from getting any of the achievements?
Imo i would avoid hell mode for a first playthrough
Hell mode has one exclusive pact but it isn't necessary for completion
that's why I'm going for it 
It makes the game harder from the get go when the game is plenty difficult from a fresh file
I strongly recommend not going into hell mode for your first playthrough
awesome will go for it thanks
the true hell mode is my download speed 
You have been warned 
hang on real quick im gonna turn on hell mode
I bought the game yesterday, I already have 6 hours of playtime. Steam counter must be broken
Anything to do with Chtonic Keys after unlocking all the weapons and mirror abilities?
that must be it ye
eat
you can trade em for stuff later
like nectar, gemstones or darkness
dunno if any endgame content requires em tho
you can reset the mirror with them, and sometimes the broker offers to trade 15 of them for 1 titan blood
There are also massive dumps for all your resources in the endgame
hey guys having a bit of trouble unlocking some things:
||aspect of guan yu: i’ve unlocked 5 different aspects across my weapons but still no talk from achilles
2nd set of mirror of night upgrades: nyx still hasn’t brought up anything. definitely done more than 15 runs but she’s been absent a lot i think, or talking with other people||
The text for both of those people are rng so you'll just have to keep doing runs to get them
You can try dying in the first room to farm the dialogue!
wait it’s rng??
||Hi all, if I've defeated hades before, do I have to fight him again after unlocking at least 5 diff aspects for guan yu? Or can I just farm deaths in the first room||
oh so after achieving the conditions necessary, it becomes an rng wait for the text to show up?
i have the same question desoule
also u prob wannna put that name in spoiler brackets
ah oops sorry
You can farm death in the first room yes
Since the texts are given by Achilles and Nyx respectively
alrighty thank you
No problem! 
i guess i’ll just farm titan blood while i try to get the texts
That works!
is there no codex entry for hammer upgrades like the boon ones?
there isnt, no
@terse breach you'll probably continue to pick up keys because they can get you bonus rerolls after a contractor upgrade...mostly you'll convert them to Nectar at the broker in the late stages of the game
ye
I find ||Than's|| to be really cute
But so is ||Dusa's and Sysiphus's||
They are all cute 
I think not
Relationships are purely story related
And completely optional
After you get the keepsakes, you will not get anything from them
Maybe Hypnos' could help you buy stuff later in the run
I'm still trying to figure out where I could get the last keepsake 
you cant give more than 1 nectar per encounter yea?
Yup
i cant just show up with my 20 nectar stash and be like "yo homie drink up"
damn
guess i gotta actually spend this
don't worry, you'll use all of them soon enough
I rarely have more than 5 nectars nowadays
i remember collecting 20 nectar to buy 2 gems for the rod of fishing
You could just earn them with bosses.. But it's a nice investment anyway
i spent all of my boss gems on orpheus songs
lol
mood
sure i can make the game easier for myself but that mixtape is fire let me unlock that first
Heh
@green tinsel ||Mother|| is spoilers
||im talking about nyx. isnt that 1st hour stuff?||
i getchu
Sincere apologies
the shades emotes in game are pretty rad
Is chaos decent now? I once got choice between 3 maimed, never even look at his direction anymore
I always go for Chaos when I'm in the beginning or the rewards next chamber are resources. I think it's pretty good if your build isn't strong enough by itself
hey everyone, got any tips or advice on using the bow for newbies?
when you try to perfectly charge your shot look at the arrow trajectory instead of the bow itself
i think it's common knowledge but i didn't know that so yeah
Chaos can be incredibly tight, if you know what your planning and comfortable enough to work around the curse.....I often take the first room looking to reroll into whatever my primary ability for the run is (casts damage or extra cast/ Attack/dash attack damage)
Agreed
Posidon blade, Hera Bow.....always take it gunning for damage/bonus cast, fists usually take it gunning for attack damage boost
man elysium is a pain in the ass
guyz
if i want to upgrade my skills
I need to die
?
and restart from the begginig
@leaden whale upgrade what?
@copper root build advice here https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2233472883
Mostly you'll want to spam Dash-Strike Power Shots. I recommend practicing on Skelly for a bit to get the rhythm and timing down.
Good hammers are anything for your Attack. Best to just try all of them and see which work best for you.
You can also try Special builds, but the meta for that isn't really established yet because it was just recently buffed.
The Special used to be mostly ignored on base bow because it was too slow and risky for too little reward.
At this point we should really pin this guide
I've been linking way too many times
is there a benefit to giving nectar more than once to a character?
Only certain characters
But giving nectar beyond that is purely optional
But why wouldn't you?
They are all so nice 
I am still new. This nectar doesn't come that often to me so far 😄 😅
Friendship is always nice 
Is it possible to get Athena's blessing at the first level?
yea
you have to have enough runs
the game introduces them by having them each come out 1 by 1
after that theyre completely random
yesterday i was trying to give her the nectar but she didn't show up at all
at least i think thats how it works
yeah
Giving up resets your run with the same seed
woah rly
Yes
That's how we route runs
The way Hades generates a seed is pretty different though
It randomizes every chamber instead of the entire run
Oh hey it's the person who's on the osfe discord 
The what discord?
One step from Eden
lmao whats up
Giving up resets your run with the same seed
@obsidian locust
I thought so
its ya boi
that's a shame
would dying work?
That generates a new seed
presumably yes but itd take longer
I mean you can always just turn up the pact to max and just die in the first room
at level 1 would take way longer
i don't even know where and when i get so many revives lol
Hmm I haven't beaten the game but I have made significant progress while playing hell mode, I am kinda in an awkward spot where I have been thinking that maybe it would be easier to start on a new save without hell mode on.
should I just keep at it or scrap the hell save till I am more used to the mechanics?
id probably make a seperate safe file
then go with reg mode
unless youve gotten really good at it to the point where youre consistently getting close to winning
just seems hard to learn in an environment that punishes you hard for failing
I honestly feel like hell mode shouldn't be in the game anymore
It just doesn't provide anything of value
I usually get to Elysium and die to the boss or get to styx and die to the enemies
That's fair!
I just see so many people starting with it and then being unsure if they should switch off it or not, and get worried
I thought at first I would like the extra challenge, it just frustrates me now when I realize that basic enemies are giving it to me rough.
the game explicitly warns you before starting that it's hard and can't be undone, but that would mean the person would need to read and understand that before starting I suppose
Every time I get to asphodel I die, any tips
Hypnos would probably say something along the lines of "have you tried not standing in the lava?"
but in all seriousness, what about asphodel is giving you trouble?
athena deflect boons are incredible for asphodel if possible
most of the difficult enemies and the boss are all projectile based
particularly the dash
Is this gryphon cannon the last weapon I unlock?
also can I upgrade all weapons with this titan blood after a while?
there is just so much to unlock in this game
it's amazing
I freaking love it. Hades exceeded my expectations.
@green tinsel the Boss isn't always
arent the types of projectiles just different?
theres the purple waves, the fire ones, the purple orbs
all still deflectable iirc
Summons, falling debris
oh summons is true
I don't think the lava making orbs are deflectable...not sure though
also can I upgrade all weapons with this titan blood after a while?
||unlock the gun first, then do an attempt after, skelly will have something to say||
between the Arthur and the Hestia aspects (it's the 2 ones I have maxed out), what do you guys think it's the best one to try to defeat the ||Secret Boss ™️ ||?
Cool, didn't know you could upgrade your weapons
@modest cove ||final boss is a spoiler in this channel, please spoiler tag your message||
since the last pacht i dont see ||fishing stop in chaos place|| anyone same prob as me i did like 40 runs.
I just see so many people starting with it and then being unsure if they should switch off it or not, and get worried
@vocal nymph I mean, if someone sees a "Hard" mode and enables it, is "this is hard" really a complain? Besides, the description says "set this if you are a veteran in the cycle of death or just want more challenge" and Hell Mode delivers exactly what it says.
@leaden whale upgrade what?
@hard snow skills?
@leaden whale there is literally nothing in the game that is refered to by the name "skill"
Should I save my Ambrosia for Titansblood?
@hasty light there are times mid runs where you need to give Ambrosia, but the option doesn't show up if you don't have any, so I would recommend always keeping at least one so you'll know when someone is at the "Ambrosia" stage and can make your decision on spending it
Does nectar just increase the amount of interactions you can have with characters?
i think the issue is it doesn't really provide any further challenge that normal runs with heat don't (aside from one fairly low-impact modifier that could just be available in normal mode), so it has no purpose for experienced players, only for new players that want the game to start out harder
it's kind of vestigial at this point, it used to have much more significant differences but they were removed one by one
@lavish gazelle I'd like to see it be more interesting but yeah.
would u recommend getting the shield or the spear first?
and how do I unlock weapon aspects?
unlocking every weapon unlocks aspects, so whether you get the shield or the spear first doesn't matter all that much since you should unlock the other next run anyway
well I haven't even beaten Meg once yet 😄
reached her only once though and had her at like 30% hp
you're a lot of keys away from unlocking all the weapons, really
I wouldn't worry about aspects at all yet
I just don't know which weapons are good
I'd go for the shield; it's very beginner friendly
I like the sword and don't really like the bow
spear is... tricky to use
then I'll go for the shield I guess
very low dps if you don't build right
unless you're pushing extremely high heat, everything is viable
Oh the shield looks fun
ranged weapons tend to be easier before you know enemy attack telegraphs though
did you want it to lock you out of your save file?
It's rogue-like, it's deisgned that way
haha
btw, I'm curious will there be new additions of gods in olympus? Hera for isntance
when you say the beginning, do you mean that it reset your metaprogress
are you now on the first run in a file
Hi guys, I'm super new to the game - furthest I got is the Elysium bossfight. And I've only beaten the Asphodel boss once.
I did, however, manage to beat the Tartarus boss with each weapon and get 6 Titan Blood.
Do you have any recommendations for Weapon Aspects that are good with only 1 point in them? Something that changes up the playstyle without needing several points to be beneficial.
yeah, you're fine
you unlock a bunch of stuff after the first win
that's supposed to happen, just keep doing runs and you'll see more story
Hi guys, I'm super new to the game - furthest I got is the Elysium bossfight. And I've only beaten the Asphodel boss once.
I did, however, manage to beat the Tartarus boss with each weapon and get 6 Titan Blood.Do you have any recommendations for Weapon Aspects that are good with only 1 point in them? Something that changes up the playstyle without needing several points to be beneficial.
@jolly wagon Hmm, this is very subjective, it's the randomness of the game that rewards experiment
you have to experiment with things I guess
hera's power is frontloaded, might try that
but really, most aspects are better than the base weapon regardless of how much you put into them
that's supposed to happen, just keep doing runs and you'll see more story
@tepid vale this is crazy
i like that a lot
Yeah, I picked up the Achilles aspect because it adds an extra dash without any downsides and I liked that. Something like the Chaos Aspect though feels like it wouldn't be good with only one point, since it only adds 1 extra shield per rank
get keys
zagreus aspect is also always cheap to upgrade and an ability that's just useful without needing to build around
they're the currency for weapons and mirror level unlocks
Other aspects often requires you to play differently
have you done a run since you unlocked your last weapon
but that's the fun side of it ^^
Unlock the other weapons and they'll appear
right
you have to unlock every weapon you have access to, and then do a run
lysol this is quite a profile pic change
it's really impressive that you've cleared without unlocking every weapon
what i unlock after the first run
Heat for one thing. You can make your runs more difficult for more rewards
you get difficulty modifiers, and more rewards
it also unlocks more story progression
so more troll rng in your dialogue
You need to unlock the ones there first
you have to unlock every weapon that you see, then do another run
Hello, i beated Hades and i still have a collectible called "titan blood" i heard a guy in game say that it can upgrade weapon but i don't see where i can do that ?
I think you need to unlock all the weapons if you haven't
have you unlocked all the weapons yet
No i didn't unlocked the last one thanks for the tip i will do that then ^^
unlock all of them then do an attempt, win or die
this will refresh the house for new events, skelly will have a convo for you
I really like the shield I have to say. Even though it is a bit slow
I think you need to unlock all the weapons if you haven't
@mental schooner wow thanks for that I was wondering why I couldn't use it, guess keys just got higher priority
Just seems really hard to get the boons you really want
are there other unwritten rules/recommendations similar to "unlock all weapons first"?
If you're shooting for a specific boon, it's hard, but usually it's not hard to get a good boon
This game is amazing breh
I really have a hard time beating those bombers though
Give one nectar to all NPCs, don't trade diamonds until endgame
What are some good, early 1 point aspects?
first 8 mirror talents are a pretty high priority as well, the ones past the 20/30 key barriers are nice to have but lower priority
Give one nectar to all NPCs, don't trade diamonds until endgame
@marsh ether what's endgame? after the first clear?
Well until you clear the NPC quests, but yes, also that
also be aware that some of the broker offers are pretty much outright scams, like 250 gems for a titan blood
NPC quests? 👀
@lavish gazelle not a scam in late game tho
like when u finish all the aspect and all you need is decoration
ideally you won't have any left over though
you need more than you get from bounties
so you would trade for the remaining ones you need and no more than that
and even more ideally you would only buy them from the 15 key offer, seeing as they go for 100 keys without special offers
Just got my first nectar. Which keepsake would u recommend to get first?
charon
super strong
@lavish gazelle that why its belong to the late game tho
like me now. i need 5000 gem for the theme
and i have like 16 titans blood left with no purpose
you will get bounties in 20 heat each weapon
right, what I mean is you can get 281 blood from non-renewable sources, but need 306, so you should only trade for 25 more to begin with
like 120 diamond 120 ambrosa and 240 titan blood
and you can also get resources from fate
You can also buy them from Chiron instead of trading up
I think that heat is a mild spoiler for this chat
its fine tho
Can we skip dialogue without using confirm button.
I keep accepting the rewards from npcs accidentally.
I wish the dialogue had auto-advance
hard to avoid talking about it, since it's pretty early game for most people
but yes, it is considered a spoiler in this channel
Can we skip dialogue without using confirm button.
@vale mist no, unfortunately
you have to click or hit the confirm button to advance
I thought Hell Mode was the reason I kept dying in world 2 turns out it's just my 30+ hours without sleep
lul you really need some sleep man
I can't even reach the first boss on Normal now 
lul you really need some sleep man
@cold garnet I concur but can't atm for technical issues
||So I've unlocked at least 5 aspects and have purposely died countless of times triggering dialogues. The past 10 times or so there has been no "!" appearing at all for most of the npc including achilles. Am I missing something to unlock aspect of guanyu? I've previously killed hades a couple of times.||
check the pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion
they have the complete instructions
second pin
looks like it's just troll rng
but make sure you have at least ||5 blood total invested in the spear||
What do the faces above the health bar mean?
those are your death defiances
Ah ||I've read that people have gotten it without investing in spear at all though||
||guess I'll continue killing myself another 20 times and see if anything changes :/ ||
and it give you an extra life
@rough saddle good luck
may the troll rng bless you with happiness and prosperity
any tips for theseus fight? Currently kind of comfortable with playing aegis or stygius
thanks @tepid vale will need all the luck
also have 6 bloods to spend
any tips for theseus fight? Currently kind of comfortable with playing aegis or stygius
@cobalt parcel oh yeah I have tips
hold up
cursed?
status effect
I suggest weak, doom, or chill. The others aren't worth a ton, and are harder to get
Second time clearing ||hades|| and god, Im still getting my ass kicked. Survived purely by using casts and avoiding, regening with duo boon when got no defiance :/
Both times as fists
keep running and you will be fine tho. You just hasnt get used to the gameplay
specially its speed
You guys are great for answering all these noob questions. Best beginner discord I've seen
Yeah maybe. I think I have a tendency to either go in too hard and button mash, or be too passive and get whittled down
Theseus tend to give me a bit pain too, mostly when he uses boon
this community is great you know. That why this game got success at early access
both us and the developers
@flint turret you have to get used to your dash. Like its the first thing you have to master
With that said I'll throw my question into the hat. I just unlocked heats. If I do a heat with a weapon that I hadn't previously beaten all the bosses with, will I get the rewards for the lesser difficulty? Or do I still have to beat every boss with every weapon advancing up the heat levels to get all the rewards?
the delay of it is a little bit hard to control when u first play this game
you will get the essier heat rewards until it come to ur current heat
Hmm true. I have to get better with that yeah
Only had the game since maybe 4 days, so not used to it yet
@cold garnet ok so if I'm on heat 2 with a weapon I never used, I will keep getting the rewards per boss per run until I've gotten all the rewards for that heat
I'd imagine you don't just get everything all at once
you dont get everything at once. You play in 3 heat and you didnt claim 2 heat earlier reward, when you success you will get the 1 heat reward, just like that until you get all the reward in 2 earlier het
thanks for the help
any total beginner tips?
just one keep dying and running
but really you can go to youtube and there are tons of it @idle fractal
there's also tons of spoiler thumbnails on youtube monkaS
@idle fractal
thanks
thank you
is it just me or is the Shield so fun :3
shield is pretty good
I say that about every weapon though
it's just a fun game idk
Do I lose nectar on death?
Ty
np
anything you get from a room that has blue laurels around the reward symbol, you keep
if the room has gold laurels around the symbol, it contains a buff, which you do not keep
im playing demeter fists, can choose between epic zeus and heroic dionysos attack. zeus it is, right?
I feel like shield is the best weapon
So what are some of the first aspects I should work on / unlock? I did the chaos shield and I feel very underwhelmed
im playing demeter fists, can choose between epic zeus and heroic dionysos attack. zeus it is, right?
@rich kernel they're both good, honestly, but I'd usually go for zeus
alright I got the aphro/ dionysos duo instead, needed it for a quest anyways
So what are some of the first aspects I should work on / unlock? I did the chaos shield and I feel very underwhelmed
@sudden nest if I started a fresh file right now I would go for the zag shield. the base damage increase is really nice
but pick whatever aspect looks fun, on whatever weapon you're most comfortable with
What you should go for is petting Cerberus it's what I'm doing rn
Indeed
Hello
I have 2 question before i buy the game
How long does a regular run last ?
And do you kill demons regularly ?
successful runs can last from 15 minutes (once you're pretty good) to an hour
and some of the enemies could be considered demons I suppose
i dont think theres a single demon in the game
lmao
Ok I love the shield. Just managed to get to the Elysian fields. Beat the hydra in first try
imo the closest you're going to get to a demon in this game is the first boss but it's a bit of a stretch
shield is love
shield is life
I also got the second dash now
How do you unlock the other weapons?
I mean past the first 4 I have unlocked only 3 so far. will the other appear after unlocking the first 4?
yes
I see
Then I'll see those after the next run
missing 1 key to get the spear
I got Death Defiant rank 1 and Greater Reflexes Rank 1 what would u recommend getting next at the mirror?
ok wtf is the gun. with two simple upgrades (hammer and aphrodite) my special deals close to 600 dmg, then ive got zeus chain lightning on normal attacks too.. geez
Death Defiance rank 2.
stubborn defiance if you've had a chat with Mother Nyx about the mirror
dark regeneration
thick skin
after those just max everything idk
To be clear to get the aspect of lucifer for the rail gun I need the aspect of guan yu and then invest 5 blood in any aspect right?
ok wtf is the gun fr. 5 specials and meg is gone.
Well, she doesn't have much HP to begin with.
still way faster than usual for me haha
and there are actually easier broken builds than that, believe it or not
1100 in each phase. 4400 in total.
gun is good until it isn't
it was my favorite weapon when i unlocked it but if you don't get really good boons it just kinda feels bad
is there a way other than the broker to get Titan blood after you kill ||Meg|| with every weapon?
you get them from Bounties after beating the final boss at least once
which aspect for shield nets the fastest shield throw special?
Once you beat the final boss there will be a way to earn more titan blood
@leaden whale what do you mean by fastest? The Zagreus aspect and the chaos aspect have the same travel speed. You’re able to spam the special if you are hitting enemies at close range.
Is there any way to "refresh" god mode down to 20%? Or adjust it down after it's gotten really high? My partner is playing and she's up to 76%, but her skill level has improved a lot, so she wants to drop it down to like 40% or so without starting an entirely new save. The new perks from the mirror combined with her boosts from God Mode are synergizing a bit too strongly
What is your favorite call for Aspect of Hera?
unfortunately no for god mode adjustment, it has been in #hades-feedback since it was a thing
if i start with coin purse keepsake and switch to another one later do i keep the gold?
yes
I'm missing the shield and gun's hidden aspects. Does anyone know the requirements to get them?
would yall unlock chiron bow or chaos shield first?
Charm duration is shortened for bosses (stunning them out of a move, but with a bit of good timing, you could have Theseus and Asterius harm each other, for example). The Greater Call still does oodles of damage, though.
would yall unlock chiron bow or chaos shield first?
I like the shield, but it's really just personal preference
ye I really like the shield in general, honestly ive never tried playing with bow at all
Ooooh, aphrodite call on elysium bosses was everything i could have hoped for. thanks for the tip!
Aphrodite legendary is how I got my first champions clear when it first came out
@hard snow artemis has the worst call below max charge
making it also the lowest dps of the calls
@haelface that's not what was asked, and I stand by my answer, it's my favorite call, bypasses shields, letting me ping down troublesome Elysium shield guys, seeks, and at max charge, can usually force a boss to the next phase
sure
you can and should pick whatever favorite call you like
call dps is not the only part of your build
just a question
if i get a gods keepsake, and equip it before the start of the run will that guarantee that i get their boon first?
yes, with some caveats
hammer can precede god
also some scripted events can change that
which I won't get into due to spoilers.
thanks
there are honestly a lot of things that can precede the god you choose.
so it's more accurate to say that it guarantees that you will at some point see their boon
Yeah I've gone 5-6 rooms deep before a god boon
also how do i unlock calls from bosses
@tight cedar uhhh
you get calls from gods. after the first scripted one from poseidon it will be rng, and you'll probably get one on pretty much every single run
it's just a boon, like "strike" or "flourish" boons
dont you need to activate them at the place where you put on your keepsakes ?
then use the boons?
are you talking about calls or summons?
so can someone tell me what's good about hera bow comparing to just firing the cast normally?
with hera bow you can unload several casts on an enemy at once
just improved cast speed then?
3 trippy shots at the same time, for instance, is a lot of damage
it does not make your casts faster. it loads them into your attack so they can all come out at once
which equates to basically faster cast
does the cast-loaded shot benefit from both cast boons and attack boons?
just cast boons
Hi guys. How so different attack bonus stack?
As in mirror buffs, main buffs, passives...
Hera Bow is very good with Trippy flare because it eliminates the "balancing" effect to trippy flares damage and aoe .....the travel time
they are all applied to your base damage
How
so the sword has 20 base damage on the first swing
common aphrodite attack makes it deal 30
Mhm
on a backstab with shadow presence and aphro attack, you won't deal 45 damage - you'll deal 40 because both bonuses are applied to the base damage
Ok
some hammers alter your base damage, but they're pretty rare
And crit is on top of all that or does it just add 200% base
crits aren't a damage bonus - they just take the amount of damage you deal after all other bonuses and multiply by 3
heart rend takes your damage after the crit and adds 50%
So yeah
I believe clean kill works similarly, but I could be wrong about that one
they don't add a lot of damage on +% boons, usually
but the first one or two are often a significant bonus
when using the last weapon, which button do you rebind the "reload" ? clicking the stick wont do it, looking for ideas
I use controller and mouse so I wouldn't know what are the normal binds for a controller are
what is LB by default?
when using the last weapon, which button do you rebind the "reload" ? clicking the stick wont do it, looking for ideas
@ashen night I bind it to left bumper
summon
And put codex on left stick
thx, that was also what I was leaning towards, too accustomed to the rest ^^
Yea the default bind for reload is ass
Hey Guys! This game is Awesome! It’s so nice, I bought it TWICE! Switch and PC. I noticed on Switch it says “cross-saves coming soon” is that cross platform with the PC? Does anyone know if that’s a thing?
what's the best way to avoid the minotaur's charge attack?
Once I had a the Boon that makes you run like crazy after a dash
God the Mino followed me for ages
Was funny as hell
is there a reddit page or something with beginner tips?
all right, I manage to get to the third boss for the first time
any tips before I walk in?
who to kill first, for example
zag has many lives
@ruby condor I have their entire moveset and some tips in a copypasta
want it?
sure
@ruby condor a good idea is to kill asterius first, because once you weaken theseus enough, he has a really powerful god attack, and it doesn't really help that a giant bull is running towards you as well. better to get rid of the latter first
also, if you fought asterius as a mini boss before hand, his HP is automatically lowered
how do I save my progress so that when I do, it saves where I am
you only need to press quit at the beginning of each room
remember to press quit and not give up
give up makes you start at the beginning
hey there, quick question... is there a way to check if my next room is the last one before the boss?
also you can't quit once you have engage in battle, you will have to clear the whole room before being able to quit
any tips for the minotaur and archer boss fight?
i was so damn close to winning
the archer is very annoying tbh
but its definitely doable
try to bring their hp pool to 0 before yours and u should be good
thanks everyone
The last room will always be Charon shop or gold laurel room (God, heart, pom) There also specific number for room each stage but I don't remember the number
but is there a counter?
I know it's one of those but if there's a choice I can't tell
you can press b to see the counter iirc
you could focus minotaur 1st & line of sight the arrows
ok I just gotta get a mental note of how long each section is
@jaunty magnet tartarus ends on 14, asphodel ends on 24, elysium ends on 36
so 13, 23, and 35 are always free rooms
also are there any kinda checkpoint in the underworld so if I die or not
😦
you wouldn't want to start at, say, Elysium with no boons




