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blissful mortar
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@thick lynx It has to do with something in your Fated Prophecies

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You most likely have a prophecy of "get every boon from god/goddess x" and it's one you've never gotten before

midnight ledge
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so it has no gamepaly value on your current run

blissful mortar
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Nope, none at all

midnight ledge
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but gives you some currency outside

thick lynx
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yeah thats what i thought but it only shows up occasionally and im pretty sure it didnt appear when there was some things i never picked before

midnight ledge
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when you finisht them

blissful mortar
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It only applies if you have that prophecy at the time

midnight ledge
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can check them at your table in zagreus room

thick lynx
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ok thanks ill keep an eye out

blissful mortar
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Even if it doesn't show it up and you get the prophecy later though, it'll still count

unreal crow
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any tips on getting 'em perfect catches?

midnight ledge
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watch the spot

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when it turns white

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you have to pull in

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needs some practice

north quail
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Is the 8-key weapon worth it... when im using bow most of the time...
all weapons are worth it, but some may seem uncomfortable to use, it depends on your style of fighting, i, for example, don't use bow or the railgun, because the damage is too low, for me it's easier to go straight into the battle rather that trying to damage someone from afar

blissful mortar
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@unreal crow There's also consistent timings to fishing that you'll get used to eventually

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It's hard to explain, but, it's definitely noticeable

midnight ledge
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also for me atleast keys is the resource you have the most off later on

vague tangle
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Is anyone else having issues with the autosave feature?

midnight ledge
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no ?

sly vigil
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@unreal crow have you tried the finger trick? Barely cover the bouy with your finger. Look only for a white flash.

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That should get you through. It eliminates all the other distractions with the bouncing up and down.

vague tangle
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this keeps popping up for me

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well, it's tips on how to fix it, i've done all of them and nothing is working

obsidian locust
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What seems to be happening?

midnight ledge
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@vague tangle all of what ?

vague tangle
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The three things it tells you to do to try and fix the autosaving

obsidian locust
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Try to be a bit more specific on what's wrong. Oh and also #h1-tech-support would be the right place to ask this

spark locust
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What does "descend" do?

midnight ledge
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descend were ?

prime crater
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What does "descend" do?
@spark locust I believe it is the Chaos Gate, that is the only time I've seen the "Descend" prompt in teh game. It takes you to a special location to a special NPC who grants special Boons.

tepid vale
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@prime crater got it already

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he took the plunge

prime crater
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Ah, OK.

foggy marsh
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Is there an overall opinion on Infernal Soul vs Stygian Soul in the mirror (multiple cast vs regenerating)?

prime crater
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(Honeslty, I like Chaos and their boons)

tepid vale
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(Honeslty, I like Chaos and their boons)
(You'd better; they stack and can get overpowered if you slap enough onto your build)

prime crater
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Yep.

tepid vale
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@foggy marsh Infernal Soul and Stygian Soul are both good, but for different things

prime crater
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Though, as a genuinely bad player, I am limited in picking by what the "suffer" part is.

tepid vale
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if you're running trippy shot, you want stygian soul

midnight ledge
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@foggy marsh i usually go for regenerating when i dont plan on doing a cast build

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and just use it for the dmg increase

tepid vale
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if you're using poseidon blade, you probably want infernal
just as a couple examples

midnight ledge
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although if you can get another blood shard regenerating gets REALLY good

prime crater
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Infernal/Stygian Soul is one of the few things I would like to be able to swap in, say, the trainsition-to-upstairs rooms.

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Because at the beginning of the run I have no idea what my build is going to be like.

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I figure it out as RNG allows me.

foggy marsh
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which of the two is used more often in most builds? regenerating?

midnight ledge
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nah cant say that imo

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depends on preference

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and what you want to play

foggy marsh
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tbh, I don't really use Cast unless I get a Cast boon, but even then it's stuck in the enemy for so long I don't really prioritize it

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I did beat the game using a bunch of boons related to Demeter's cast

prime crater
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(Say that the Contractor could sell you a small mirror and you'd pick... three or four stats at your big Mirror in your room, and then could switch (and only switch) the perks selected in the small mirror at the end of the zone, like you can pay-for-switching keepsakes.)

foggy marsh
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but someone told me that regenerating is more popular

midnight ledge
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@foggy marsh well regenerating doesnt care if its stuck in the enemy

thick lynx
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are the god keepsakes that let me encounter a god next "used" when i get their boon

midnight ledge
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it regenerates anyway

foggy marsh
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does boiling blood stack with multiple casts?

midnight ledge
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@thick lynx yeah but the rarity up still applies

thick lynx
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okie thanks

midnight ledge
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@foggy marsh no

foggy marsh
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oh really? all this time I thought it did

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hmm maybe I should switch to Stygian Soul

midnight ledge
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i mean i am like 90 % sure it doesnt

tepid vale
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it doesn't stack

foggy marsh
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so like infernal is good for cast boons that kind of sit on the ground like the festive fog and ice beam, and for everything else it's better to use stygian?

tepid vale
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you probably want stygian for trippy shot, tbh
it lets you cast it a lot more often

foggy marsh
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what is trippy shot?

midnight ledge
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festive fog

sly vigil
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It's a disco song

foggy marsh
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so are the only uses for infernal Poseidon blade and ice beam?

sly vigil
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Hera Bow

midnight ledge
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an i guess lower heat shield hidden aspect

sly vigil
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Infernal is also good for Curse of Drowning

midnight ledge
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yeah

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i liked it on achilles spear with cruse of drowning

sly vigil
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If you don't know what those are then you can keep playing and you will see.

queen nymph
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Got my first win~

sly vigil
tepid vale
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welcome to spoilers

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not the spoilers channel, though

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you probably don't want to go there yet

shell elbow
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Does inflicting charm on bosses do anything useful or is it pointless?

midnight ledge
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it makes them stand around a bit

gray haven
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It makes them not attack you, and they can attack other enemies for big damage.

midnight ledge
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also it stops some abillities

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like ||last boss fire rays||

tepid vale
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@midnight ledge it no longer stops that ability

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according to the patch notes

pastel cipher
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that's no longer true Florador
from the patch notes ||no longer susceptible to Charm effects during beam attacks||

midnight ledge
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huh

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are you sure about that

tepid vale
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yes

midnight ledge
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hmm amybe it was bugged when the patch came out

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and they fixed it in one of the following patches

foggy marsh
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any recommendations for the 3 diamond contractor upgrades?

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there's a few and I don't know which is best in the long run

tepid vale
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darker darkness

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unless you have fated whatever boons unlocked already

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in which case get fated keys instead

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You're going to want to get all of them eventually, though

foggy marsh
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cthonic keys, fated > darkness, pitch black

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if i'm understanding correctly?

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keys give fated authortiy (whatever that is) and darkness gives max health

tepid vale
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if you don't have fated authority, don't get the keys

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because they will give you literally nothing if I'm not mistaken

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so get darker darkness

foggy marsh
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okay I assume the other one is further down the mirror tree?

tepid vale
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yep

north quail
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||theseus|| was at around 1 hp and i died oh my god i am so bad

tepid vale
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it happens

gray haven
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if you don't have fated authority, don't get the keys
because they will give you literally nothing if I'm not mistaken
No, that's incorrect.

tepid vale
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quick! @ them!

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does it work if you haven't spent the keys to unlock that mirror level?

gray haven
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Yeah.

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But the few Fated Authority rerolls you pick up in a run don't really do much. I'd rather take something else first, personally.

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+5 max HP from Darkness is pretty good.

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Although, if you intend to pick up a lot of Chthonic Keys for a while anyway, then that upgrade would be better. You don't get anything from chambers you skip, anyway.

shell elbow
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What hp is a good level to aim for by the end of a run?

dense laurel
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how long can you not get hit

cloud orchid
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250-300 is where I tend to end up

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sometimes wind up with 400+, though, if i see a lot of hearts

dense laurel
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i usually end with 200 ish with 4 defiance ofc

shell elbow
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Ye, 250 is where I usually end up. I mainly use Cerberus' trinket on the last floor too, as I don't think many others are that good for it

cloud orchid
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the one from ||Patroclus||is a good candidate, as is the one from SKelly

signal thicket
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skelly's keepsake is great

shell elbow
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I feel I don't need skelly to win any more lol. Unsure if I have ||Patroclus'|| yet, which is strange because he's my favourite dude from greek myth. Hopefully can get it on my next run

gray haven
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About 250 HP if you use Stubborn Defiance. Less if you use Death Defiance.

north quail
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finally passed ||elysium|| and died to some rats

maiden quail
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I can go to Meg consistently but dying there easily I had only beat her once any tips?

quartz current
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Wait until she charged you, then hit her

cloud orchid
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most of this will come with practice.

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grab a weapon you like, and keep at it

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and, as your upgrades start coming in, you will naturally get further

analog marlin
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use a bow

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stay far away from her

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get the double dash

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that's all i did

sullen token
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mac version keeps freezing up..grrrr

shell elbow
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for the third boss ||do you only ever get one supporter, or can you gain more by beating it a lot||

pastel cipher
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@sullen token post in #h1-tech-support describing your issues, someone from the SG team will then be able to possibly help you

north quail
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about that - ||i tried searching, but i don't get it, is this the green guy or what?||

shell elbow
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||there is a shade a different colour to all the others. brown/redish who has a tiny little zag banner. its cute||

north quail
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i've seen one that was redish

shell elbow
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its also my favourite feature in the game lol

gray haven
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@shell elbow regarding your question for the third boss: ||it's always just that one shade. It's just a small easter egg.||

north quail
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sad

prime crater
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Okay, so now Meg ||barged into Zagreus' rooms and said that her sisters being involved makes things easier for her, and now her codex entry is showing this arrow.|| What does it mean? I am afraid. Is she going to start shooting me?

shell elbow
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can you mark that a spoiler plz?

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idk that was gonna happen

pastel cipher
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anything including and past final boss is considered spoilers in this channel @prime crater

prime crater
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But. I didn't get past the final boss?

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But spoilers go

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And if it is somehow connected to the final boss, I didn't know, and I am sorry.

pastel cipher
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oh no, it's not connected

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it's moreso a lot of things a considered spoilers here as it's a hub for new/newer players ^_^

prime crater
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So..

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should I try to ask elsewhere, or?

pastel cipher
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just be mindful is all bittieCozy

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asking here is fine

prime crater
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I mean, I have no idea what is considered spoiler besides the uppermost level

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I am at this for barely a week now. I have only a very vague idea of what is going on.

nova star
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spoilers about this arrow ||it means this character can be romanced||

prime crater
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Oh holy -

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that's an option???

pastel cipher
prime crater
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So... Who else does this apply to?

pastel cipher
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it applies to ||Meg, Than, Dusa||

prime crater
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I see.

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Thank you.

rough ginkgo
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we can't ||romance the bone hydra||?

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0/10 game getting a refund

shell elbow
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I wanted to ||romance sad boy patroclus. although I guess he still loves achiles||

pastel cipher
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sorry ||bone hydra is only interested in killing zagreus, any romance would be one sided||

shell elbow
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wait can I ||romance 2 characters? I have a crush on meg and than lol||

pastel cipher
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||yes, yes you can, there is 0 downside to it|| @shell elbow

shell elbow
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||good, that choice would have been harder than the last boss||

solid dock
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do i need to|| beat hades to unlock guan yu , i have already used 6 titan blood||

pastel cipher
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||zag is bi (possibly omni/pan not sure on this one though), so it only makes sense :3 ||

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Centrix ||no, you need to fight final boss once, the outcome doesn't matter||

ionic yarrow
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I got the game on steam today and thinking of getting it on Switch, are the mechanics on the switch good?

shrewd agate
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it feels really nice to play on switch imo, havent played on pc with kbm though

restive belfry
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It plays great on the switch. Really responsive & looks so vibrant too

shell elbow
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if you play on switch id advise swapping button mappings before you start. the default ones are a bit weird tbh. I personally mapped attack, special, cast and dash to the triggers instead of the face buttons

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the game also runs really well. 720p 60fps i believe. only tech issue i encountered was ||thanatos being invisible and not having any music when he appeared in one of the rooms||

terse breach
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Best keepsakes to get first?

quartz current
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Imo, Achillus is super decent

north quail
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Best keepsakes to get first?
cerberus

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hermes

prime crater
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skelly

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Fuda also helps, if you struggle with survival

quartz current
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Oh yeah Skelly for the very beginning

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But just play the game, it doesn't affect it that much tbh

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Not at the beginning anyways

proper laurel
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Yo what does ||choosing boons at the end of the game do? Just cosmetics?||

nova star
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wdym

proper laurel
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When you finish the game you ||get to "mark" 5 boons that appear in a list next ot all your boons, what does that do?||

nova star
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ooohh ||it's just to highlight some boons in your build in case you wanna share a picture of your victory screen||

proper laurel
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Ah okay, thanks!

kind breach
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oof

quasi rover
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Ok I just started playing the game. There is no tutorial huh? 😄

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All those symbols are quite confusing. I kept going a while before I died

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Also no idea what to unlock first. I guess I just have to keep go into Tartarus to farm ressources and die until I can afford upgrades

silent trail
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I'm about to start my 26th try to escape my fathers domain and I JUST realized there's an entire 2nd set of talents you can put points into at the mirror by hitting that swap button...

drifting crown
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Yuuuuuuuup I’m right there with you- so many more options 🤩
Can’t believe I missed it

silk hearth
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You unlock these via a conversation with Nyx, in which you are explicitly told that your mirror has been changed/upgraded. Did you people skip through that?

north quail
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I'm about to start my 26th try to escape my fathers domain and I JUST realized there's an entire 2nd set of talents you can put points into at the mirror by hitting that swap button...
yo i'm doing my 26th attempt too

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how far have you reached?

formal rover
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i think some people go through that convo but don’t realise what it means

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there’ve been a bunch of people who’ve missed the alternate talents; was kinda expecting them to update the UI in 1.0 tbh

silk hearth
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Fair enough. Maybe I just stared at the mirror menu long enough prior to unlocking these. Meaning I immediately noticed those swap buttons that weren't there before.

north quail
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i keep getting the most annoying fury in tartarus brrr

nova star
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iirc if you die against one fury in tartarus it will always be the one you fight until you beat her

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though i'm not sure

north quail
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i know it's easy to beat all of them

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but i get the most annoying one almost every time

midnight ledge
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which one ?

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i hate alecto xD

north quail
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i hate tisiphone

midnight ledge
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tiss you can just bumrush xD

pastel cipher
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but tisiphone is great, (spoilers ahead) ||zag even eventually teaches her to say his name||

midnight ledge
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and she imo telegraphs pretty well

north quail
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i really hate that she only says murder or murderer and those black screens are annoying as hell

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alecto is probably the easiest

formal rover
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but tisiphone is great, (spoilers ahead) ||zag even eventually teaches her to say his name||
this is the best quest change my mind

midnight ledge
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alecto si so annoying

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traps evrywere

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and becomes unhittable for years

silk hearth
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I actually like tsiphone the best, because all of her attacks originate from herself and she spawns no additional enemies. Makes it easy to focus.

north quail
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just dash

shell elbow
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does sturdy stack? like i have the hermes bone that gives it when i dash, but now i have the option to get it on my weapon when i attack or special

north quail
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i almost killed the final boss...

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he was so close to dying

shell elbow
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potential minor spoiler for you but was it ||phase 1 or phase 2||

prime crater
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||...How do you tella apart the phases?||

silk hearth
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||He seemingly dies after the first phase (health bar is empty). Then gets back up and has a different moveset.||

prime crater
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Well now I am big mad and also my self-esteem plummeled waaaaaaaay down.

silk hearth
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I'm sorry 😦

misty fog
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The damage reduction won't stack with other sturdy boons, but will stack with other sources of damage reduction.

north quail
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potential minor spoiler for you but was it ||phase 1 or phase 2||
it was ||phase 2||

prime crater
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I guess my Lthis close" was actually "so far away"

rough ginkgo
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same here

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thought i almost had it

north quail
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i should've bought more powerups

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he had like 3 hp left

twin turret
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I'm not particularly new having completed the prologue but I'm unable to spend any ambrosia, I've maxed achillies and nyx with the other gift but don't know how to give ambrosia any help?

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Epilogue*

candid nimbus
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Ambrosia can sometimes be locked behind favours or RNG dialogue

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after the last heart is unlocked the next time you see them can give

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Well, unless dialogue says no

twin turret
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Ohhh thanks, I haven't completed any favours so that explains it

candid nimbus
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Sometimes it's just a lot of dialogue in general before the brib- I mean gifting can work

twin turret
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Lol xD thanks for the info

candid nimbus
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Good luck!

silk hearth
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Also I'd upgrade that "sometimes" to "always". I don't think there's a single character that can be gifted ambrosia outright after getting there with nectar.

twin turret
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I appreciate the heads up

novel pilot
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what can i do against the witches who throw purple balls at you?

nova star
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dodge the balls

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you can also destroy them with attacks

gray stirrup
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Or deflect em with an Athena boon

silk hearth
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Note: Some ranged attacks do not destroy the projectiles, most notably the attack of the adamant rail.

modest cove
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Anybody else's game randomly close while on the Switch?

prime crater
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(Unrelated, but I want to share: On the list of my favourite quotes from this game goes:
"Bone Hydra, if you understand me, menancingly hiss!"
[Menancing hissing])

modest cove
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I was fighting through Asphodel with the fists while under a Chaos boon that lowered my speed

silk hearth
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My favourite is "Wavemakers, I can also make waves."

pastel cipher
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@modest cove you're best off posting in #h1-tech-fixes describing what's going wrong
Sorry that this is happening to you

kind breach
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lets go

north quail
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gg i beat it

candid nimbus
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Congrats!

north quail
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a little disapponting

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but still great

candid nimbus
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Oh there's more.

silk hearth
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Way more.

north quail
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yeah i see

twin robin
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Is it possible to gift bottles of nectar to patroclus? The option does not appear when i talk to him so i was wondering if i'll be able to do it later on or if he just hates my guts that much

candid nimbus
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Did you check the codex to learn his name?

twin robin
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Oh i don't think i did

candid nimbus
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Last I recall you had to do that so that Zag can actually call him by name

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but that might have changed

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When you talk to him does it actually say his name?

twin robin
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I know his name is patroclus but at this point i'm not sure if i saw it on my screen on from a streamer-

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I'm checking the codex real quick

candid nimbus
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Check that, if Zag says "Oh so that's his name" then you should be good here on out. Assuming SGG didn't change it lol

twin robin
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Yep he did

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Thanks!

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Now i can give him this bottle of nectar i've been holding on for days

candid nimbus
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It's something very minor, we should get the impulse to check codex whenever it updates, but shrug not me!

silk hearth
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I obsessively check it every time it updates. Other end of the spectrum I guess.

twin robin
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I usually wait for it to fill up and then take some time to read it

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I didn't know reading it actually did something in game

candid nimbus
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That's the only time it's super important if I recall

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Otherwise it's lore and info

twin robin
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Yeah which is very interesting

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But since it updates as you progress into the game i just want to read it all in one go

silk hearth
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There's one other instance that I can think of, but it mainly keeps you from getting a bit of dialogue, not actual character progression. I think so at least.

candid nimbus
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Beats me, I started checking codex more frequently after that to check relationships and stuff so I might've gotten other instances by accident

quasi rover
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Which weapons and upgrades in the mirror would u recommend to get first?

silk hearth
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It's about Thanatos' codex entry, spoiler if you haven't completed that one yet: ||Achilles theorizes that Zagreus is, in fact, the God of Blood. You can talk directly to Achilles about it later.||

twin robin
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I'll start reading it more often then. It's fine to me either way

candid nimbus
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Oh that, yeah I got that by accident lol

silk hearth
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||Also I had Zag say "I'm the god of blood" in response to one of those Hades clips that play after starting a run.||

reef bone
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hi, what's the point of upgrading hera bow if I'm using the regenerating cast ability?

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I notice it only reduces bloodstone drop time but not sure why I would want that when it can't drop anyways

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and boiling blood means it's better for me the stone stays inside the enemy

candid nimbus
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It might not do anything for that cast, not sure. It helps alot for the other cast though

twin robin
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I'm not sure since i'm no expert but i think it's in case you wanna use a bursty build? I use the triple stone perk on hera's bow and with artemis' cast boon i do want my stones to come back asap, especially if i have exit wounds as well

candid nimbus
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The burst damage is much higher for the other cast with upgrades yeah

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You still do get 2 seconds of lodge time if regenerating cast is maxed

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3 vs 5 I think

trim crescent
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Hey guys just want to ask what weapon is easiest to get a clear

loud oyster
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^

rough ginkgo
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so how do i get more titan blood for my weapons? i got 6 near the beginning and immediately blew it on whatever seemed neat, but i'd think there'd be more in the game
do i have to talk to the trader lad in the lounge? or do i have to wait until i beat the game for the first time?

north quail
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Hey guys just want to ask what weapon is easiest to get a clear
depends on your style

sly knoll
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ok so i think ive locked myself out of getting the codex

unreal berry
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@rough ginkgo yes just beat the game

rough ginkgo
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got it

sly knoll
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i didnt talk to achilles much before finishing a run and now now i keep talking to him and never gives it to me

unreal berry
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@sly knoll It's not possible so don't worry

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Just keep playing

rough ginkgo
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also, what happens if you're using the hera bow (i think that's what it's called) and you have a nonstandard cast? like, what happens with aphrodite's, or demeter's?

north quail
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so how do i get more titan blood for my weapons? i got 6 near the beginning and immediately blew it on whatever seemed neat, but i'd think there'd be more in the game
do i have to talk to the trader lad in the lounge? or do i have to wait until i beat the game for the first time?
beat the furys with other weapons
beat the game

rough ginkgo
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got it, think i got everything i can from furies

sly knoll
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ok, ive finished like 5 runs at his point ,ive seen people get it before finish 1, guess ill ... just die and talk to him until he gives it?

unreal berry
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@rough ginkgo Don't get them, they're bad

crystal furnace
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How do you unlock the hidden weapons?

rough ginkgo
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@unreal berry the cast upgrades in general, or those specific 2?

crystal furnace
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i invested 5 blood on bow and talked to artemis and nada

unreal berry
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@rough ginkgo only those 2

lyric forge
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You need to have the Spear hidden aspect unlocked first.

rough ginkgo
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my question remains, though

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what happens if you have a nonstandard cast and load it into the bow?

unreal berry
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It throws them out at the end

rough ginkgo
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yeah nvm, one of us doesn't understand the other here

unreal berry
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Crystal Beams are situated where the arrow ends

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And Crush Shot seems to be bugged

north quail
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i rarely use cast

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a bit useless

unreal berry
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The Crush Shot casts only hit slightly after the point of impact

scenic pecan
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Depends on what you get tho

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Cast with hera's bow is pretty good

unreal berry
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@north quail They're are very strong I can tell you that

north quail
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i don't play the bow it doesn't go with my style

scenic pecan
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Fair

unreal berry
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It's good nonetheless

scenic pecan
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Currently I'm using sword

north quail
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i mostly use twin fists

unreal berry
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Have you got any cast duo boons yet?

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Those are nasty

north quail
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no

scenic pecan
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The one weapon I don't use anymore is spear tho

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Ohhh

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I did with ares/demeter yesterday

rough ginkgo
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i've only seen one duo and i think it was poseidon + artemis

unreal berry
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Poseidon + Demeter

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Artemis + Ares

north quail
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i've seen like 3 and those were aphrodite + athena, 2 others were athena + something

scenic pecan
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I kinda need to check out what I unlocked

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But I think I have almost all duos

unreal berry
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Dionysus + Demeter + Zeus

north quail
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what

unreal berry
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Those are the best

north quail
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triple?

unreal berry
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Yeah

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Crazy right

scenic pecan
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Would be nice if we had a triple boon

unreal berry
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wdym?

north quail
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all gods boon

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gives +1% damage

rough ginkgo
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ok, so more specific question
still using hera aspect bow, what happens if i take athena's phalanx shot? will my arrows with casts loaded explode and/or deflect?

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choosing between that and divine dash

north quail
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divine dash is the best dash imo

unreal berry
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Like I said before, the Casts are thrown out at the arrow's point of impact

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That's how Hera works

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Nothing more

rough ginkgo
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i see

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ima go with dash then, if i get lucky i'll find ares' cast maybe

ionic yarrow
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When I went into a room and there was a ||singing|| lady, that was really cool

flint turret
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Can you see somewhere what bosses you've done with each weapon, or need to keep note of it outside of game? Funny is, game mentioned it but I forgot to do it haHAA ||codex|| dont seem to mention it

nova star
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later in the game you will ||access the administrative chamber, which contains a permanent record of all your escape attempts as well as how many runs you did with what boons/weapons/aspects/keepsakes and such||

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otherwise if you beat the game once ||you will unlock the pact of punishment which will show you how far you went in a run with a weapon||

ionic yarrow
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is there some sort of hades guide?

nova star
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there are many on the community hub

ionic yarrow
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community hub is?

nova star
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steam community hub i mean

ionic yarrow
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Ahhh

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I just lost to the third boss after defeating the second for the first time

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so bummed :x

nova star
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it's ok now you know what to expect

ionic yarrow
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I tried to go for the ||minotor|| first but that didn't work well

normal flax
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tbh I think that method is easier but it's still a much harder fight than the first 2 imo

formal rover
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i often go for ||theseus|| first, as he has less health, so goes down faster and then i only have to focus on one thing

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but i think i might be in the minority there

loud adder
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Probably, because even though his health is lower, ||once you get him to half HP|| you're gonna be dealing with much more stuff than necessary, which you can avoid if you choose to ||go for the Bull first.||

kind breach
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how much playtime do u have guys

formal rover
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my strategy for a long time was to go for ||theseus||, phase him, then immediately drop ||mort|| on him as soon as he left invincibility, effectively allowing me to skip most of his second phase

pallid dawn
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I dont think they have ||mort||

formal rover
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i haven’t done that specifically in while tho, and sometimes i do go for ||asterius|| now

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yeah fair, was replying to Eule

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how much playtime do u have guys
like 250 hours

civic cove
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125 hours here!

shell elbow
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How to I check my playtime on switch?

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I'm guessing like 20 hours so far though

ruby sonnet
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click ur icon and it is under profile u may have to wait a few weeks though for it to load

loud oyster
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how do i check my attemps

shell elbow
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You can buy a scrying dish for your room

loud oyster
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oh

shell elbow
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It tells you run amount and enemies killed

loud oyster
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and im close i got to the bull then he left the room then i died in the next room?

shell elbow
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The ||bull is a miniboss. Floor 3 has its boss on i want to say room 35ish|| someone with more time in the game probably knows exactly what room

loud oyster
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okok

candid nimbus
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somewhere there. 33 pops in my head

shell elbow
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||he will always leave before you kill him too||

candid nimbus
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but you'll know since you'll get a room of nothing but a reward or charon pre boss shop

loud oyster
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once you kill the last boss is the game over?

pulsar frigate
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no

candid nimbus
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That's just the ||beginning||

nova star
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there's still more

candid nimbus
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||Tutorial|| complete

shell elbow
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That's when ||it starts lol||

loud oyster
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ok good i really like this game

formal rover
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||there is no escape||

ruby sonnet
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is titan blood in ||charon styx shop 100% of the time?||

shell elbow
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Best supergiant game by far tbh. And Transistor is in my top 5 lol

candid nimbus
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Nope, it switches between diamond and blood

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Randomly

formal rover
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sometimes it’s ambrosia

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i think?

candid nimbus
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Oh is it really?

formal rover
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idk i never buy it lol

candid nimbus
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Must be 1.0 thing

shell elbow
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How do I use ambrosia? Never had a use for it so far

formal rover
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could be wrong but i thought so

candid nimbus
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Ambrosia is used once you get past people's ||favours and big dialogue|| once you give them enough nectar

ruby sonnet
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thank you

candid nimbus
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Usually the ||last heart is when you can give ambrosia||

shell elbow
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Is it fine just to give one person as much as possible? I'm a Meg simp

formal rover
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yes

candid nimbus
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Not a bad thing, your game, your plays. Share the love though

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Gotta make everyone like us

formal rover
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i did that with thanatos at first

candid nimbus
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goodest boi deserves some too shadesmile

shell elbow
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||Patroclus|| is next. He's my favourite sad boy

candid nimbus
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||Poor Patty||

shell elbow
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Have you read the book Song of Achilles? ||Pat is the main character|| and it's so good

candid nimbus
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I have not, I'll take a look when I have time

next jacinth
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Does activating god mode locks you out of some steam achievements?

rocky sigil
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I don’t think god mode locks you out of any achievements

hushed mulch
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is there any benefit to giving multiple ambrosia to same god?

ashen night
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mirror question : what's best between God's Pride (increased epic boons) and God's Legacy (increased legendary/duo boons) ?

unborn hornet
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I get more general use out of Gods' Pride personally but if you're hunting for a particular duo or legendary, Legacy can help

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I don't think it's a huge make-or-break decision in terms of general gameplay

ashen night
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legendary got me a fishing boon as first gift of the run when I leveled it, maybe i'll swap ^^

unborn hornet
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I think that one's mostly scripted to show up? I've literally only seen Poseidon's fishing point boon once, immediately after I purchased the Rod of Fishing

faint umbra
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yeah that is a scripted event unrelated to the mirror talent, just a coincidence

lyric forge
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The fishing boon can be reacquired but it takes a lot of effort to do so and is likely not worth it really.

rocky sigil
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The fishing boon requires you to get the 2 treasure boons in posideons set then it can unlock for you again

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The one where you start off with it is scripted

quartz mason
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For the bow, what does this mean? “Release Y While Flashing to Power Shot”

I’m holding down Y, charging, and releasing the shot.

sly vigil
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Hold down Y, look at Zag, of he flashes white, release the arrow to powershot

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There's a rythm to it

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If you do it right you should hear a distinct "swoosh" sound.

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Note the timing is shorter if you dash strike.

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Takes some practice to nail it down but it's worth it.

quartz mason
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Okay sweet

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Thanks for the explanation!

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I figured it was something simple I was overlooking

frail mesa
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Hello is there a specific thing I need to do for ||thanatos legendary keepsake?||

green epoch
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I was wondering, does the ||Lucky Tooth keepsate Skelly gives you|| stack with your regular death defiance?

frail mesa
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I have his butterfly at 3* and give him the honey thing everytime but now the honey thing doesn't pop up anymore, not sure what to do next

marsh ether
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Lucky tooth is separate from DDs or SD, it's just an additional thing

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For the Than companion you just need to wait and talk to him until his hearts unlock

reef bone
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@green epoch yes and it activates last

green epoch
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Thx

loud cape
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so when a boon says it replenishes 1 use of Death Defiance and I get it while I'm at 3 uses, I'd still only have 3 right?

lyric forge
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Yup.

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You need to have an empty slot for the replenishment to work.

odd vine
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how does the motives work ?

lyric forge
#

Chaos legendary boon and Skelly's keepsake give you an extra death defiance that doesn't count against the cap, and there (at least was, maybe still is) a trick to get the replenished defiance to stick if you're running Stubborn Defiance.

mint relic
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still is

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if your stubborn defiance is used up

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athena will fill it

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And stubborn defiance will make a new spot in the next room

ashen gust
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hello! i bought hades for my mac today but had to return it cause it turns out my computer wasn't strong enough to run it. kept crashing. but i was gonna buy it for my switch instead! are there any differences between the PC version and the switch version? or are they exactly the same?

loud cape
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theyre the same

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theres no exclusive content or anything

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although apparently the pc version runs smoother than the switch version (which doesnt apply to your situation)

ashen gust
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haha sweet! thanks sm

fickle vector
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Hello guys, I've been playing this games since the days before yesterday
I have a question: why have the first two bosses stopped dropping me blood and diamons? Do I just have to get good?

sly vigil
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yeah. each boss only drops blood and diamond once per weapon per "difficult level"

fervent prism
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you can only get one of each for each weapon

obsidian locust
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They drop those rewards only once per weapon and will reset after beating the final boss

sly vigil
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for now don't worry about the "difficulty level" yet

obsidian locust
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Just enjoy getting rid of that pesky Hydra squirtnya

fickle vector
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Yeah I've beaten hydra a couple of times, it's the next stages that usually kill me ahahahah

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Also, i've used up all my blood into the giant sword, can i get those back and use them on the gauntles?

sly vigil
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yeah. if you want blood you should try every weapon. but if you did that already then you kinda need to clear the first run before you can get more.

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unfortunately you can't rescind the blood you invested.

fervent prism
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you can sometimes trade other items for titan blood at the brooker

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check after each run

fickle vector
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Oh i see, ty everyone!! Now back to trying ti reach the minotaur ahahahh

obsidian locust
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Good luck! squirtnya

reef bone
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Is here a point in giving hades nectar?

regal halo
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My codex for Hades has a Heart with a keylock in it what does it mean ?

obsidian locust
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You'll have to complete certain conditions for it to unlock. After that you can give him more nectar

regal halo
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oh cool

rocky sigil
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Yeah hades is just like any other character you need to find the story requirements to get closer to him

uneven slate
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After playing for months staring at that clock heart, it feels weird to be able to do that.

rocky sigil
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Yep agreed the dialogue around it is..... weird he’s the only static character in the game and now he’s not

hardy wyvern
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Is there a weapon and boon guide for a newbie like me?

blissful herald
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how do I get the ability to unlock fists?

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they arent in the training room for me?

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do I need to get to a certain level or something?

rocky sigil
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Yeah you need to get to the 3rd level I think

blissful herald
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elysium?

hidden basalt
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Yeah

rocky sigil
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Yeah

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The weapons unlock by doing some runs and getting far enough

hidden basalt
#

Are there any ways of getting Titan’s blood other than trading or boss rewards?

sly vigil
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fishing (super rare) or Styx shop

hidden basalt
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Oh

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On that note how the hell do you fish properly?

rocky sigil
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The game will have a house contractor build to unlock fishing and will teach you about it

hidden basalt
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I have the rod, but how does fishing actually work, I’ve only managed to do it successfully once

sly vigil
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try the finger trick: cover the buoy with your finger just barely, wait for a flash of light on top of your finger. this eliminates all the bouncing up and down distraction.

hidden basalt
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Ohh there’s a flash

nova star
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yes and a special audio cue

hidden basalt
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Ok that helps a lot

marsh ether
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I usually work on audio clues rather than visual

hidden basalt
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The bobbing is incredibly distracting, I thought it was the cue

wicked holly
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or just hope that you get 3 bobs and then the instant the bobber moves for the fourth time just reel it in for a quick perfect catch (maximum of 4 bobs on a fish)

nova star
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also fish can only "fake out" three times

hidden basalt
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But yeah that helps a lot

rocky sigil
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The perfect catch timing window is pretty strick I believe it’s 3 frames

sly vigil
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.34s

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not that strict

marsh ether
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it's 2 frames

wicked holly
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depends on your fps no?

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~300ms is what i hear

hidden basalt
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I’m playing on switch

rocky sigil
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Oh ok it’s a 20 frame window that’s good

sly vigil
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someone datamined and said it's .34s

marsh ether
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I missed it by an order of magnitude, my math is failing me

wicked holly
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Fishing in Hades: Fighting-Game level reaction/timing zaglol

tough grove
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Fishing requires more skill than actually playing the game lol

ashen night
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how do I unlock aspects ? I see 3 additional but all locked and no indication

sly vigil
inner ice
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how do you even see aspects? ive just bought the last weapon but dont know how to see or change them

midnight ledge
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you have to beat a run first

inner ice
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oh ok

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i need to git gud x)

dawn niche
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Aspects are the titans blood right?

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Mine are unlocked and available for use, but I havent even finished Elysium

candid nimbus
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Yeah I thought you just needed to unlock all weapons

pulsar frigate
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you don't need to beat a run, you just need to do a run

inner ice
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im on a run now so will probably show up when im back

candid nimbus
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Good luck!

pulsar frigate
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most things that are unlockable will require you do a run, die or win, in order to refresh the House for new stuff

manic forge
#

Does Life affirmation from Aphrodite increase the max health gained from previous rewards, or just from that point onward?

pulsar frigate
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from that point onward

manic forge
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ok thanks

obsidian rain
#

What blessings do you guys thing work best with the Spear?

rocky sigil
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I like athena on the special and ares, Dionysus, or posideon on the attack but it’s not my favorite weapon

crystal crescent
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depends a lot on which aspect you're using. My personal preference is aspect of hades, which puts a lot of focus on the attack and not on the special. Divine Strike is pretty good for the damage boost and for deflections, given the spears long hitbox, or any attack boon that gives a percentage damage boost since the damage is pretty good for the spear.

If you get lucky and get the serrated edge upgrade, then hunter's dash will be top priority, which will make your dash strikes deal hella damage

pulsar frigate
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for aspect of hades, i put on divine strike and deadly flourish

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and do either attack or special build depending on what hammers are given to me

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this is for easy access to deadly reversal, which is easy enough to do with divine spins

abstract pilot
#

with Distant Memory (+10% damage to distant foes) does that apply to damage from DoTs like Decay, Hangover and Jolted?

leaden whale
#

I almost beat the Champions my first ever attempt at them. Granted, I had a really good blade rift build that let me just run away while spamming them everywhere for good DOT, but still

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I feel like those two are gonna be my primary wall. I would have been slaughtered with a more active or melee build

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My goal is to just reach them consistently now

magic oak
#

How do you use titan blood

rapid spruce
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unlock all of the weapons

leaden whale
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I'm 2 keys away from getting the last weapon, I can't wait

rapid spruce
#

nice

leaden whale
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so far the bow's been the best for me...weirdly. I expected it to feel weird, but the dash -> charge shot feels really fluid to me

wraith saffron
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Same. In training mode, bow felt really weak but then it turned out it’s great (the daedalus upgrades are great)

rapid spruce
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personally I hate bow

leaden whale
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my hands hated it until I switched to my gamepad. Bow with the keyboard and mouse was painful

wraith saffron
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Oh, i can imagine. I think bow (and any targeting) only works for me because I’m playing on switch, which has aim assist.

leaden whale
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yeah the aim assist helps a ton as well. I hit a lot more using the gamepad

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just aim in their general direction between dashes and the game does the rest

wraith saffron
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I’ve played other roguelikes and I always steer away from targeted builds because they dont have aim assist. Good thing hades has it.

leaden whale
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the targeting is actually amazing overall, props to the devs. the melee weapons lock to exactly the enemy I want every time

wraith saffron
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Yes agree

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Anyway, my fave is still blade, but i think all weapons work

leaden whale
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I'm gonna have trouble picking a favorite weapon...they're all really fun to me

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and I haven't unlocked the variants yet

wraith saffron
#

||testing||

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Though i hate using ||the gun||

leaden whale
#

I'm actually looking forward to that one a lot lol

tropic quail
#

Exogryph takes some getting used to mechanically.

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But its a good weapon

sinful trail
#

Hey guys, Just completed my first full run! loving the game so far! i want to try and do a Cast build with Stygius aspect of Poseidon. any tips on what boons/upgrades are best for it??

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im guessing something like artemis for the cast with crit?

silent trail
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@sinful trail how many runs did it it take you? I'm still trying haha

sinful trail
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i completed it on my 21st escape attempt

sly vigil
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Phalanx Shot with Lightning Phalanx is solif if you want to try Poseidon

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Although Artemis isn't bad.

sinful trail
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2 runs were a wash tho. like i suicided to get out lol so 19 real tries i guess

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and ok ty @sly vigil

silent trail
#

Also i JUST found out that the Mirror of night has a second set of talents you can swap between.

Is it an "Either this one or that one"? Any favorites from this alternative list??

sinful trail
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LOOOL same @silent trail figured that out like 20 runs in

silent trail
#

I'm overwhelmed by the options when discovering this haha

leaden whale
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11 runs and I managed to reach the Champions for the first time and almost won. I'm not really concerned with how long it takes me though. Could be in 3 more runs, could take another 50

rain widget
#

Personally I think the night ones are much better, especially for new players.

sly vigil
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Dark Regeneration is fan favourite for mirror flip side.

silent trail
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@sly vigil my dude you're an mvp of this channel you're constantly helping others. love it.

pulsar frigate
#

dark regen is amazing

tough grove
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when they came out i used to complain that they were garbage but idk i think most of them have uses now

silk hearth
#

I like the obol alternative, because I like fat stacks of money.

sly vigil
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I just have too much free time I guess.

sinful trail
#

oh speaking of Lightning Phalanx... is there any tips or tricks to get a duo doon??

silent trail
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And it is either one side or the other right?

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On a per skill basis.

tough grove
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yes

pulsar frigate
#

foxhope has value dusa

sly vigil
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Ikr

silent trail
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Thanks!

tough grove
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except for stubborn defiance i still think that one sucks

wraith saffron
#

What whats dark regenerwtion again?

pulsar frigate
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high heat players use it all the time

sly vigil
#

oh speaking of Lightning Phalanx... is there any tips or tricks to get a duo doon??
Not really. Just learn the requirements before you go.

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Darkness heals you for 60% value

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Which makes darkness room heal, troves can heal

wraith saffron
#

Ohhh right, from darkness crystals. Yeah it’s really great

sly vigil
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Shop items can heal

pulsar frigate
#

darkness from boss drops heal too, and they heal a lot

sly vigil
#

Boss can heal

wraith saffron
#

Yeah I don’t think i’ll swap that out haha

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Maybe i’m just new, but the default ones seem better to me than their flip versions

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I have some flips but very few

tough grove
#

that one's amazing when you died on the final boss and the next run you can collect darkness from all the previous bosses for big heals

silent trail
#

Early game is Ambrosia worth turning to Titan Blood? I'm no where near maxing out someone's hearts with me which I think is what it's for? Without too many spoilers

tough grove
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i would say keep it

silent trail
#

Used all my blood on one form and don't know how to get more for other weapons.

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Ah okay

tough grove
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because the trade isn't great from what i remember

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did you beat the game at least once?

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because if so i can explain how titan blood works

sly vigil
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You should hang on to Ambrosia because you will need a decent amount of it all at once.

silent trail
#

Thanks again all

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I haven't beat it once yet @tough grove :( run Number 26 here we go...

tough grove
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ah ok

silent trail
#

This game is hard for me. I have bad hands so don't play intense games any more so it's rough

tough grove
#

you get the big meta resources later on so it's not worth trading them

wraith saffron
#

I just wanna say, I really LOVE what the game is doing with the loops. So much voice lines adapting to what you’re doing or what you just did. Even the item to replenish 1 dark defiance has a voice line.

silent trail
#

Yeah i do not like Roguelike games or dungeon crawler but I love Supergiant games and had to support them and they're definitely making two genres I didn't like work well

leaden whale
#

Yeh, the sheer amount of dialogue in the game is constantly impressive. I never get mad about dying because I'm all "alright cool, time to go chill with everyone and see what's up"

silent trail
#

Oh okay one more I could not find in game! "dash before getting hit" is there some icon or window I'm missing on this?

wraith saffron
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Agree. And there are a lot of times that I have my personal goal in my mind (like try killing hydra again) and then Zag will say it, and I’m just really happy when game does that.

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Oh okay one more I could not find in game! "dash before getting hit" is there some icon or window I'm missing on this?
@silent trail never tried picking boons for this yet 😅 i dont know the window too

silent trail
#

Definitely with you @wraith saffron

leaden whale
#

I feel like Hades is gonna ruin other roguelites for me because it's just...a freaking masterpiece of the genre. Absolutely nothing about the game is frustrating and it's addictive both for its gameplay and its characters

silent trail
#

Supergiant has ruined a lot for me and I love them for it @leaden whale

sly vigil
#

Hades ruins Bastion for me

leaden whale
#

I hope other games in the genre will take a page from Hades' book and try harder to intertwine the narrative and the gameplay for a satisfying loop

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cause this is just amazing stuff

wraith saffron
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Agree agree

leaden whale
#

they don't have to be on the same level, cause Hades went...really, really extra with it

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but just more, I suppose

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the problem I had with, say, Gungeon, was that each failed run barely felt like I made any meaningful progress. It felt like I was always being thrown back to square 1, which hurts in a game where a run takes over an hour

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Nuclear Throne didn't have that problem because it takes like 15 minutes to reach the Throne if you survive at all

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I still love Gungeon, mind, but that game's a lot more frustrating for me

silk hearth
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@sly vigil ah shoot, I haven't played bastion yet, but it sits in my library

leaden whale
#

It's funny, I never played Bastion which is like the OG hit game for Supergiant. I did play Transistor though, which was cool

wraith saffron
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This is my first supergiant game dont kill me

silk hearth
#

I only played Hades. But I also now own Pyre because it was free when I first bought Hades on steam.

pulsar frigate
#

I hope other games in the genre will take a page from Hades' book and try harder to intertwine the narrative and the gameplay for a satisfying loop
so... can we have sgg revolutionize the horror genre next

leaden whale
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If you like how the bow plays in this, @wraith saffron , you'd probably like combat in Transistor. It has that stop-and-go fluidity to it

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Quite literally stop, in Transistor's case

wraith saffron
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I’ll look into it!

sly vigil
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I want to see SGG's spin on the RTS genre

pulsar frigate
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actually my request is changing to traditional turn-based rpg

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something revolutionary like off or lisa

sly vigil
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the question is will SGG ever abandon their isometric root

pulsar frigate
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they did for one game and then they said never again

sly vigil
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which one?

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is Pyre considered non isometric?

pulsar frigate
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yes

fallow trellis
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hiii ^^ I have a question

candid nimbus
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I'll try to answer if I know

fallow trellis
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im not sure if this is the correct channel to ask this question

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but I have finished the game but I havent met Thanatos yet

candid nimbus
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np, not like this channel is super busy

fallow trellis
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is there a reason why ?

candid nimbus
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Ah Than is super RNG

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but I don't recall if there's a specific pre-req to see em

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How many runs?

fallow trellis
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it took me 30 tries

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with god mode on

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on 52-54% if im not mistaken

candid nimbus
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I'm not seeing anything about pre-reqs for Than... weird uh

fallow trellis
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Than is actually my last character to unlock if im not mistaken

candid nimbus
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You're losing hp in areas 1-3?

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Only pre-req I'm seeing is that you need to lose hp

fallow trellis
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depends, only if I make a mistake by accident

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ok ill try that. if it doesnt work, is there another way?

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i've also tried to read the hades wiki but I have not seen anything

candid nimbus
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Don't think so. Need to lose hp and just run through some normal? rooms

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Yeah I'm looking at wiki too lol

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I ran into him by accident my first time, but my playstyle forces me to lose hp zaglol

fallow trellis
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is it necessary to have heat or no?

candid nimbus
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No

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He's pretty random

fallow trellis
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im already chamber 4 and theres nothing

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i took dmg from all of the chambers

candid nimbus
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The damage is only a pre-req he's very RNG dependent

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I don't think you need to take damage every room

frosty valve
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i got him in the third area like 15 runs in i think

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not certain

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on my old profile i was at like 30 runs and never got him

candid nimbus
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There isn't a way to force him out, it's just whenever he feels like it. There may be a pre-req I'm missing also because I tended to talk to everyone at the house

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Might be a dialogue piece from someone mentioning him

limpid mantle
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Hi everyone, I got the game today, but I'm curious about one thing.

quartz mason
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How do you change between options on the Mirror of Night?

candid nimbus
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Nyx should tell you the mirror got an upgrade, can just click on the talent I think

quartz mason
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Okay cool. Thank you!

limpid mantle
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In the middle of a run, if you press t he button to see your collected boons, you can select one to kind of like "pin" it

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You can select all of your collected boons

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What does that do? It wasn't really explained

candid nimbus
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Just to show off, show your stats

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If you want toscreenshot a specific build

wicked holly
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Pinning your boons doesn't do anything in the game. If you successfully "complete" a run, the end-run screen allows you to pin boons to show off (i.e. post-game screenshots), but during a run it does nothing.

limpid mantle
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Ahhh ok thanks!

gilded saffron
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How do you unlock the other 2 weapons? Do you just keep playing or is there something I have to do?

candid nimbus
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Might need more runs

wooden wave
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you have to unlock the previous weapons first

leaden whale
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They unlock pretty early as you keep playing. Nothing really special about the base weapon unlocks

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I have all 6 of them at 7 hours played

gritty lichen
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How do i unlock the very last keepsake and from who?

silk hearth
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That's a pretty huge spoiler, do you really want to know?

gritty lichen
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Yah sure

tepid vale
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dm it to him, don't put it here

silk hearth
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Alright.

lime ocean
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Hammer or Athena\Wine god double boon room? 😄

tepid vale
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that depends on the build

lime ocean
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I'm at the start

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and with the spear

tepid vale
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probably hammer then

lime ocean
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I have wine god debuff attack and thats it

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debuf on attack

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ok, thanks!

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Took Serrated Point. Very interesting. Now, triple dash would be awesome 😄

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I wonder if it will screw me over on some boss attacks

candid nimbus
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Only if you believe it will

tepid vale
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serrated point is amazing

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now get hunter dash

lime ocean
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Holy cow, Megaera just exploded

candid nimbus
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F

leaden whale
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That transition from Meg smugly mocking you after each loss to her getting increasingly annoyed that she's no longer a threat to you

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So many small touches and I'm not even that far yet

bright horizon
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Finally got to start Hades tonight after getting it yesterday. Such an awesome game, major props to the devs

lime ocean
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why play other roguelites, right 😄

red depot
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Hey fellas I have some questions and hoping someone can guide me a little.

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I revealed some weapons and spent all my titan blood like an idiot on a ton of level 1 variants.

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Now I realize I need a ton more titan blood but the blood you get from first boss is pretty much spent across the board.

candid nimbus
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You can get more blood later

red depot
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Tips for getting more blood?

candid nimbus
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Broker Shade, Charon shop sometimes ||at Styx|| and you'll learn about another way after you beat final boss

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Oh and some ||minor prophecies do too||

red depot
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Well I have an ambrosia and the shop guy in the lounge will let me spend 2 diamonds for one ambrosia and then can spend one ambrosia for one titan blood.

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Is this a bad trade?

candid nimbus
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I'd holdon to diamonds and ambrosia

red depot
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  • 2 Diamond + 1 Ambrosia then into - 1 Ambrosia for + 1 Titan Blood
candid nimbus
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They'll be important later

red depot
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Is this a bad deal?

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Ok.

candid nimbus
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If you have excess, which I doubt >_>

red depot
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I do not have excess.

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I just really want to level up my Shield of Chaos more .

candid nimbus
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Yeah holdon to those, blood you can gather more

red depot
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I looooove when you dash throw it throws tons of shields.

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Absolutely love it hahaha.

candid nimbus
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Shotgun shield

red depot
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Love it! Haha

candid nimbus
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There's another weapon that can do shotgun

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but yeah just keep playing you'll get more

red depot
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Only weapon I haven't felt great love for so far is Fists annnnnd hmm yeah just fists.

candid nimbus
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For future reference, you can test out aspects by spending blood, going on a run and then giving up. You'll return to the courtyard before you spent blood... just make sure to NEVER go back into bedroom after spending blood if usin this method

red depot
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Too late for that!

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I like the ones I chose it's just

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Now I am all out with a ton of level 1 variants.

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😂

candid nimbus
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Yeah I get you, I'm just telling you for future reference if you wanted to test out max aspects and such

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Good luck!

red depot
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Thank you!

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Oh actually one more q @candid nimbus

candid nimbus
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Sure

red depot
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Boons n gods n stuff.

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Is there like a tier list?

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Is there specific gods I should be favoring?

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Basically what's the "meta" ?

candid nimbus
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Not at all, no meta 'round these parts

red depot
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Cool cool.

candid nimbus
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There are some recommended stuff though depending on weapon

red depot
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I would definitely say only god I have never loved any of the options was Poseidon.

candid nimbus
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Say fast weapons, Dio/Zeus are good

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Athena is a good all rounder because deflect

red depot
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Sure sure I will take any of this advice.

candid nimbus
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but game is all about experimenting

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Find what works for you!

leaden whale
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The amount of different builds in this game is straight up staggering. A lot of roguelites will brag about "never having the same run twice" but still feel a bit too similar every run. Hades....I swear it feels like a different game some runs

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Enemy variety also helps, plus some enemies simply won't spawn in some runs. There's been a lot of "WHAT IS THAT?" moments, even 10 hours in

silk hearth
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I recently had a "what was that just now?" moment around 100 hours in. Though to be fair, it was related to something you could not unlock before this patch.

indigo hamlet
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A question: Every time I have to choose between 2 gods, Do I lose something when I don't choose 1? The god that I do not choose always seems upset.

silk hearth
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Not anymore I believe, but there is no way to not upset the other god. Other than not entering those chambers at all.

indigo hamlet
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THanks

vivid crane
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There’s an opportunity cost, I think it may be impossible to get special boons like ||duos|| and ||legendaries|| in those rooms

unreal berry
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||Duos|| yes but ||Legendaries|| I'm not so sure

vivid crane
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That would make sense

lyric condor
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Hey guys

vivid crane
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I’m assuming it’s balanced so you can’t stack ||prerequisite boons|| and ||duos|| in the same room

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Also hello!

lyric condor
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Hi!

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I just got into hades a week ago

zenith token
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Hi everyone, I’m a somewhat new player and have been binge playing Hades all of today and yesterday. I reached the || Hades fight at the surface and unlocked Demeter || today but am struggling with getting past that point. Does anyone have tips on || fighting Hades ||?

unreal berry
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Apart from Git Gud, I recommend using the ||Acorn||

candid nimbus
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Dashing towards Redacted helps I heard

vivid crane
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Yes for the final floor I like to equip either the ||acorn keepsake|| or the ||broken spearpoint||

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As for redacted, use cover, and there are numerous tells for each of their attacks. Maybe watching footage online to notice them so you don’t have to learn it during the frantic movement of your own run?

sand bridge
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There’s an opportunity cost, I think it may be impossible to get special boons like ||duos|| and ||legendaries|| in those rooms

||Duos|| yes but ||Legendaries|| I'm not so sure
||You can get legendary and duo boons from trials (just not the duos between the gods in the trial) for sure||

pulsar frigate
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you can’t get ||any duos at all in trials||

silent trail
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VICTORY! That is all!

zenith token
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Ooooh good points thank you all

lyric forge
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Did they change that? I thought you just couldn't get the duo from the two participating gods but any duo with either of them + another god was fair game.

midnight shore
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do keepsakes only effect the rarity on the first boon that shows up from that god or all of them? Since it says "the next boon you find will be (insert god here)" i assume it only effects the likelihood it will show up on the first drop once you equip it?

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or if i bring the thunder signet will it apply to the first boon i find after each zone?

lime ocean
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Only weapon I haven't felt great love for so far is Fists annnnnd hmm yeah just fists.
@red depot I found that spamming dash attack works better for fists

hasty wyvern
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hey so is there a way to farm titan blood? I lost to hades and im on my 20th attempt but notice the fury sisters only drop darkness now / purple gems?

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I also messed up and spent the three i had on the stupid gun...

midnight shore
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@hasty wyvern they drop from sisters and hades the first time you beat them with a wpn

lyric forge
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do keepsakes only effect the rarity on the first boon that shows up from that god or all of them? Since it says "the next boon you find will be (insert god here)" i assume it only effects the likelihood it will show up on the first drop once you equip it?
@midnight shore The rarity will apply on every boon from that god, you just only force the god to show up once.

latent flume
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Fury sisters award titan blood each time you beat them with a specific weapon for the first time. So you can collect 6 that way

midnight shore
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@lyric forge i see, so if i have the thunder signet fromt he start, the rarity will be applied on every zeus boon, but it only forces it to show up in 1-1

hasty wyvern
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crap.

midnight shore
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after 1-1 its just as likely to show up as any other boon

hasty wyvern
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lol ok ty

lyric forge
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It's slightly more likely to show up, as gods that you already have get increased chance to spawn again, independent of the keepsake. But if you get a Zeus boon with the keepsake equipped every following Zeus boon will also get the rarity boost as long as you have it equipped.

foggy marsh
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what are erebus gates? there's an option in the contractor for those to appear for 5 diamonds, worth buying?

lyric forge
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Yes but not a priority, I'd say?

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They give you the option to get into ||special gates||, where you have to ||kill every enemy without being hit once||. If you manage it you get an ||empowered reward||, for things like health or money it's ||double effectivness, so 50 health or 200 obols||, for boons it's ||better rarity||. They are ||heat gated though, you need at least 5, 10, 15 heat active to enter them in Tartarus, Asphodel, Elysium respectively||.

foggy marsh
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if you don't have heat, do they even show up with the contractor upgrade unlocked?

lyric forge
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Yes, they do show up but you won't be able to enter.

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They aren't exit doors in the classical sense, they act like Chaos gates.

foggy marsh
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ah okay

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I know there's a contractor upgrade for fated authority for keys, and i don't have fated authority unlocked, so wondering if that's worth purchasing now

lyric forge
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That one is actually very good. I think it works even without you having either Authority or Persuasion unlocked but I'm not 100% sure there.

foggy marsh
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yeah i don't have that many keys atm, but i have 5 diamonds

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it's either that upgrade or the nectar gives poms one

civic pivot
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Just got the game yesterday, and I was curious. Is it normal to only get darkness on your boss runs? I only managed to get Titan's blood 4 times before it switched and the hydra's diamond once. Haven't beat the hydra since, but whenever I encounter him, it says I'll just get darkness

foggy marsh
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you can only get titan blood once per weapon

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after that it's darkness

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same with the other boss drops

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at least until you beat the final boss, and then some options open up

lyric forge
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Personally if you're new and are still unlocking stuff it might be worthwhile to keep a stack of 10 diamonds handy. You need them for certain quests that I'm fairly certain you want to do.

foggy marsh
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oof 10 diamonds is a lot

civic pivot
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Oh, I didn't know that :
thanks for answering.
dammit I traded one titan blood for easy gems D:

lyric forge
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Don't worry Ian, there will be lots more to come. It's just that you can't access them right now.

foggy marsh
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you can titan blood for beating the final boss as well with the weapon, and from fated prophecies

civic pivot
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okay thanks, is the only other way to get diamonds + titans blood is through the dubious trader..?

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oh okay thanks

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thats a relief

foggy marsh
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until you beat the game yes

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imo, don't try for gems, they're the least important resource imo

civic pivot
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I had no idea because the first time I beat Meg, I also somehow managed to beat Hydra on that run too and it started to confuse me when I stopped getting the blood etc and when I managed to reach the hydra again a 2nd + 3rd time it was with the same weapon

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ah okay

foggy marsh
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quick tip, if you've unlocked the yellow mirror talents

jade jay
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when do I get my fishing pole?

foggy marsh
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contractor upgrade @jade jay

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@civic pivot use the darkness gives health

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that well give you a big boost to your hp after you beat a boss

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  • the fountain inbetween
jade jay
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@civic pivot also make sure you unlock the double dash ability

civic pivot
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oh, that's clever 0_0 been ignoring them because the purple mirror talents I have are nearly maxed out for the most part

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dash strikes are clearly the best :v

foggy marsh
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i much prefer darkness gives health over the 3hp per chamber

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cuz then you can buy like the cheap darkness from charon wells and it doubles as health

civic pivot
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okay thanks for the advice

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ah yeah makes sense :0

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Btw since I'm here, is there any benefit to gifting outside getting the relic? or is it just for story purposes

foggy marsh
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certain characters will give you things after you've gifted a bunch

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I actually have a related question about that but I dunno how to spoiler tag

civic pivot
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||this?||

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put / spoiler at the front

foggy marsh
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ah thanks

civic pivot
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np 🙂

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Thanks for the help! You're a life saver

leaden whale
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Say, I'm still in 2 hours gameplay, defeated meg then died in the next 2 chambers.. Do I really have to start from the beginning again? Or is there a way to skip the first part?

civic pivot
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no

foggy marsh
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gotta start from the beginning

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tis a roguelike

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once you get good enough + mirror upgrades, that first level goes through fast

leaden whale
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I see, not complaining just curious

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Quite grindy and skill reliable but also the story so rich. Man I love the game

foggy marsh
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question about ambrosia, is there any point in having more than 6 of those since there are only 6

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||companions?||

sly vigil
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regarding ambrosia ||you need 15 in total each to level up the companions, so hold on to your booze brother||

foggy marsh
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ah good to know, was wondering if i could just exchange some for titan blood, but guess i'll hold on to them

loud cape
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i mean if you really want to it wouldnt be the worst trade available since theyre worth the same

glacial iris
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when do i get the chance to spend titans blood i havent found where to spend it yet and ive cleared the second boss so far

proven sparrow
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unlock all the weapons

acoustic peak
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Does anyone know how to view achievements on epic? I see them pop up when I earn them but then they go away

proven sparrow
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shift+f3

acoustic peak
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Thank’s

lethal whale
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How do the God Keepsakes work when they say "The next boon you find will be from X"?

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Is it just ONE boon or like EVERY boon?

obsidian locust
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The next upcoming boon, will guaranteed be the god keepsake that you equipped

lethal whale
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is it consumed then?

obsidian locust
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It has a charge that is consumed the moment you accept the boon from said god

lethal whale
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So can I equip it again at the end of a Biome?

obsidian locust
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But you can still keep the keepsake on and get higher rarity boons from them

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Hermes might appear before the god but thats just a thing he does

lethal whale
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so I cant use the item to get multiple guaranteed boons from one god?

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Because ik you can equip keepsakes between zones

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which makes me wonder if you can equip it again to get another guaranteed boon

spring dome
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You cannot get multiple guaranteed boons from a single god, you can however switch to another god's boon to try and get something that combos with your existing boons

lethal whale
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so you can get guaranteed god combos, but not stack one god booo

obsidian locust
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If i'm not mistaken, yes. The charge of the keepsake does not refresh each biome

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but you can always use fated authority to get force them into your run

lethal whale
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idk what that is yet 😦

spring dome
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it is a mirror perk, you'll get it eventually!

sinful trail
#

Hey quick quesiton. for the shield build with aspect of chaos, what are the best boons to try and grab?

sly vigil
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Lightning Flourish Drunken Flourish Curse of Pain/Agony Frost Flourish (with Artic Blast)

analog marlin
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i cant defeat hydra

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soo much on screen!!!

sleek whale
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lol

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which weapon are you running mainly?

proud peak
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guys I was looking on controls and it has a number 1 saying for "summon" whats that

sly vigil
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Don't worry about that yet. It's a mid-late game mechanic called ||"companion"||.

steel patrol
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Hi everyone! Just joined

kind breach
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yo welcome buddy

versed basalt
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heya. Same here. Quick question: is it a good idea to play all weapons. Choose whichever one gives 20% darkness?

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Or should I just stick with 1 and get good

steel patrol
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I’ve just been following dark thirst to start, I think I’d recommend that while you still son’t have a favourite? Idk

kind breach
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4 me is about performance

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i take the weapons im good with often

versed basalt
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interesting. I finally got the rail and am going Eris aspect. Tempted to just go far in runs with that.. but you only get titan blood reward the first time you kill a boss with a new weapon?

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i got to hades on my 17th try ever

loud cape
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once you beat the final boss for the 1st time theres a kinda spoilery way to get more blood

versed basalt
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aha

loud cape
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the prophecies are also a way to get blood

steel patrol
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Tbh I haven’t really enjoyed the rail much

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It gets good later on but early in a run I find it kinda underwhelming

loud cape
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i like melting enemies with zeus's lightning bolts with the rail

versed basalt
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how valuable are ambrosias early on compared to titan blood?

spring dome
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hold onto that booze

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titan blood is more useful early i think

steel patrol
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^

spring dome
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||it upgrades your weapons||

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spoiler if you want to know what it does

versed basalt
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i can trade an ambrosias for a titan blood, but guessing its a bad trade. only seen a single ambrosia

sleek whale
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@kind breach whens the weekly challenges starting again?

steel patrol
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I’ve been making that trade most of the time, no problems here yet

faint umbra
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That’s not tiank, boredhub zaglol

wraith saffron
#

Question, does Attack modifiers affect the damage of Dash-Strike?

rotund linden
#

Yes

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If it buffs your attack button, it buffs your dash strike.

obsidian locust
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@sleek whale That isn't the right ping bro

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Same profile pic but not the same person

sleek whale
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F

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sed

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lolololol

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well @left kindle

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when are the weekly challenges starting again

obsidian locust
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Good question

civic pivot
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What does increasing rarity do to boons when you encounter Eurydice?

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like, what does it do?

prime crater
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If I understood it correctly, it makes them stronger, just like levelling up, but afer levelling them up, they then grow more stronger

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That is why rarity matters in Boons

civic pivot
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oh I see, thanks

shell elbow
#

How do i unlock ||the fourth aspect of a weapon?||

analog marlin
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i use bow

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and i keep getting killed by hydra

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it sucks man lol

ionic yarrow
#

How can I kill ||thesius|| :x

shell elbow
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||focus on the minotaur first, as thesius makes large aoes appear when he's half health. To get around his shield use aoes or dash around him alot||

ionic yarrow
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Tyyy

plain plover
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hi all, how do I unlock aspects for weapons other than the sword?

thick lynx
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is it possible for the "exit" of stage 4 to be in an elite room or can i skip them if looking for the fastest exit?

uneven slate
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It is very much possible.

thick lynx
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oh ok thanks, i thought maybe the exit would replace the elite room

uneven slate
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The position of the sack is calculated as follows: Never the first tunnel, and then equal chance of any of the remaining.

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If you are lucky, you can get an elite reward and the sack at the same time.

thick lynx
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oh really never the first one? wonder why that is

uneven slate
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Meaning the elite battle is replaced with the fountain room instead.

obsidian locust
plain plover
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thx!

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I have, however, unlocked all the weapons and only see aspects for the sword