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You most likely have a prophecy of "get every boon from god/goddess x" and it's one you've never gotten before
so it has no gamepaly value on your current run
Nope, none at all
but gives you some currency outside
yeah thats what i thought but it only shows up occasionally and im pretty sure it didnt appear when there was some things i never picked before
when you finisht them
It only applies if you have that prophecy at the time
can check them at your table in zagreus room
ok thanks ill keep an eye out
Even if it doesn't show it up and you get the prophecy later though, it'll still count
any tips on getting 'em perfect catches?
Is the 8-key weapon worth it... when im using bow most of the time...
all weapons are worth it, but some may seem uncomfortable to use, it depends on your style of fighting, i, for example, don't use bow or the railgun, because the damage is too low, for me it's easier to go straight into the battle rather that trying to damage someone from afar
@unreal crow There's also consistent timings to fishing that you'll get used to eventually
It's hard to explain, but, it's definitely noticeable
also for me atleast keys is the resource you have the most off later on
Is anyone else having issues with the autosave feature?
no ?
@unreal crow have you tried the finger trick? Barely cover the bouy with your finger. Look only for a white flash.
That should get you through. It eliminates all the other distractions with the bouncing up and down.
this keeps popping up for me
well, it's tips on how to fix it, i've done all of them and nothing is working
What seems to be happening?
@vague tangle all of what ?
The three things it tells you to do to try and fix the autosaving
Try to be a bit more specific on what's wrong. Oh and also #h1-tech-support would be the right place to ask this
What does "descend" do?
descend were ?
What does "descend" do?
@spark locust I believe it is the Chaos Gate, that is the only time I've seen the "Descend" prompt in teh game. It takes you to a special location to a special NPC who grants special Boons.
Ah, OK.
Is there an overall opinion on Infernal Soul vs Stygian Soul in the mirror (multiple cast vs regenerating)?
(Honeslty, I like Chaos and their boons)
(Honeslty, I like Chaos and their boons)
(You'd better; they stack and can get overpowered if you slap enough onto your build)
Yep.
@foggy marsh Infernal Soul and Stygian Soul are both good, but for different things
Though, as a genuinely bad player, I am limited in picking by what the "suffer" part is.
if you're running trippy shot, you want stygian soul
@foggy marsh i usually go for regenerating when i dont plan on doing a cast build
and just use it for the dmg increase
if you're using poseidon blade, you probably want infernal
just as a couple examples
although if you can get another blood shard regenerating gets REALLY good
Infernal/Stygian Soul is one of the few things I would like to be able to swap in, say, the trainsition-to-upstairs rooms.
Because at the beginning of the run I have no idea what my build is going to be like.
I figure it out as RNG allows me.
which of the two is used more often in most builds? regenerating?
tbh, I don't really use Cast unless I get a Cast boon, but even then it's stuck in the enemy for so long I don't really prioritize it
I did beat the game using a bunch of boons related to Demeter's cast
(Say that the Contractor could sell you a small mirror and you'd pick... three or four stats at your big Mirror in your room, and then could switch (and only switch) the perks selected in the small mirror at the end of the zone, like you can pay-for-switching keepsakes.)
but someone told me that regenerating is more popular
@foggy marsh well regenerating doesnt care if its stuck in the enemy
are the god keepsakes that let me encounter a god next "used" when i get their boon
it regenerates anyway
does boiling blood stack with multiple casts?
@thick lynx yeah but the rarity up still applies
okie thanks
@foggy marsh no
it doesn't stack
so like infernal is good for cast boons that kind of sit on the ground like the festive fog and ice beam, and for everything else it's better to use stygian?
you probably want stygian for trippy shot, tbh
it lets you cast it a lot more often
what is trippy shot?
festive fog
It's a disco song
so are the only uses for infernal Poseidon blade and ice beam?
Hera Bow
an i guess lower heat shield hidden aspect
Infernal is also good for Curse of Drowning
If you don't know what those are then you can keep playing and you will see.
Got my first win~
You graduated from #h1-for-new-players congrats.
welcome to spoilers
not the spoilers channel, though
you probably don't want to go there yet
and always remember FailerV1's famous words of wisdom:
https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/520688402958516254/520688527412035584
Does inflicting charm on bosses do anything useful or is it pointless?
it makes them stand around a bit
It makes them not attack you, and they can attack other enemies for big damage.
that's no longer true Florador
from the patch notes ||no longer susceptible to Charm effects during beam attacks||
yes
hmm amybe it was bugged when the patch came out
and they fixed it in one of the following patches
any recommendations for the 3 diamond contractor upgrades?
there's a few and I don't know which is best in the long run
darker darkness
unless you have fated whatever boons unlocked already
in which case get fated keys instead
You're going to want to get all of them eventually, though
cthonic keys, fated > darkness, pitch black
if i'm understanding correctly?
keys give fated authortiy (whatever that is) and darkness gives max health
if you don't have fated authority, don't get the keys
because they will give you literally nothing if I'm not mistaken
so get darker darkness
okay I assume the other one is further down the mirror tree?
yep
||theseus|| was at around 1 hp and i died oh my god i am so bad
it happens
if you don't have fated authority, don't get the keys
because they will give you literally nothing if I'm not mistaken
No, that's incorrect.
quick! @ them!
does it work if you haven't spent the keys to unlock that mirror level?
Yeah.
But the few Fated Authority rerolls you pick up in a run don't really do much. I'd rather take something else first, personally.
+5 max HP from Darkness is pretty good.
Although, if you intend to pick up a lot of Chthonic Keys for a while anyway, then that upgrade would be better. You don't get anything from chambers you skip, anyway.
What hp is a good level to aim for by the end of a run?
how long can you not get hit
250-300 is where I tend to end up
sometimes wind up with 400+, though, if i see a lot of hearts
i usually end with 200 ish with 4 defiance ofc
Ye, 250 is where I usually end up. I mainly use Cerberus' trinket on the last floor too, as I don't think many others are that good for it
the one from ||Patroclus||is a good candidate, as is the one from SKelly
skelly's keepsake is great
I feel I don't need skelly to win any more lol. Unsure if I have ||Patroclus'|| yet, which is strange because he's my favourite dude from greek myth. Hopefully can get it on my next run
About 250 HP if you use Stubborn Defiance. Less if you use Death Defiance.
finally passed ||elysium|| and died to some rats
I can go to Meg consistently but dying there easily I had only beat her once any tips?
Wait until she charged you, then hit her
most of this will come with practice.
grab a weapon you like, and keep at it
and, as your upgrades start coming in, you will naturally get further
mac version keeps freezing up..grrrr
for the third boss ||do you only ever get one supporter, or can you gain more by beating it a lot||
@sullen token post in #h1-tech-support describing your issues, someone from the SG team will then be able to possibly help you
about that - ||i tried searching, but i don't get it, is this the green guy or what?||
||there is a shade a different colour to all the others. brown/redish who has a tiny little zag banner. its cute||
i've seen one that was redish
its also my favourite feature in the game lol
@shell elbow regarding your question for the third boss: ||it's always just that one shade. It's just a small easter egg.||
sad
Okay, so now Meg ||barged into Zagreus' rooms and said that her sisters being involved makes things easier for her, and now her codex entry is showing this arrow.|| What does it mean? I am afraid. Is she going to start shooting me?
anything including and past final boss is considered spoilers in this channel @prime crater
But. I didn't get past the final boss?
But spoilers go
And if it is somehow connected to the final boss, I didn't know, and I am sorry.
oh no, it's not connected
it's moreso a lot of things a considered spoilers here as it's a hub for new/newer players ^_^
I mean, I have no idea what is considered spoiler besides the uppermost level
I am at this for barely a week now. I have only a very vague idea of what is going on.
spoilers about this arrow ||it means this character can be romanced||

So... Who else does this apply to?
it applies to ||Meg, Than, Dusa||
I wanted to ||romance sad boy patroclus. although I guess he still loves achiles||
sorry ||bone hydra is only interested in killing zagreus, any romance would be one sided||
wait can I ||romance 2 characters? I have a crush on meg and than lol||
||yes, yes you can, there is 0 downside to it|| @shell elbow
||good, that choice would have been harder than the last boss||
do i need to|| beat hades to unlock guan yu , i have already used 6 titan blood||
||zag is bi (possibly omni/pan not sure on this one though), so it only makes sense :3 ||
Centrix ||no, you need to fight final boss once, the outcome doesn't matter||
I got the game on steam today and thinking of getting it on Switch, are the mechanics on the switch good?
it feels really nice to play on switch imo, havent played on pc with kbm though
It plays great on the switch. Really responsive & looks so vibrant too
if you play on switch id advise swapping button mappings before you start. the default ones are a bit weird tbh. I personally mapped attack, special, cast and dash to the triggers instead of the face buttons
the game also runs really well. 720p 60fps i believe. only tech issue i encountered was ||thanatos being invisible and not having any music when he appeared in one of the rooms||
Best keepsakes to get first?
Imo, Achillus is super decent
Oh yeah Skelly for the very beginning
But just play the game, it doesn't affect it that much tbh
Not at the beginning anyways
Yo what does ||choosing boons at the end of the game do? Just cosmetics?||
wdym
When you finish the game you ||get to "mark" 5 boons that appear in a list next ot all your boons, what does that do?||
ooohh ||it's just to highlight some boons in your build in case you wanna share a picture of your victory screen||
Ah okay, thanks!
oof
Ok I just started playing the game. There is no tutorial huh? 😄
All those symbols are quite confusing. I kept going a while before I died
Also no idea what to unlock first. I guess I just have to keep go into Tartarus to farm ressources and die until I can afford upgrades
I'm about to start my 26th try to escape my fathers domain and I JUST realized there's an entire 2nd set of talents you can put points into at the mirror by hitting that swap button...
Yuuuuuuuup I’m right there with you- so many more options 🤩
Can’t believe I missed it
You unlock these via a conversation with Nyx, in which you are explicitly told that your mirror has been changed/upgraded. Did you people skip through that?
I'm about to start my 26th try to escape my fathers domain and I JUST realized there's an entire 2nd set of talents you can put points into at the mirror by hitting that swap button...
yo i'm doing my 26th attempt too
how far have you reached?
i think some people go through that convo but don’t realise what it means
there’ve been a bunch of people who’ve missed the alternate talents; was kinda expecting them to update the UI in 1.0 tbh
Fair enough. Maybe I just stared at the mirror menu long enough prior to unlocking these. Meaning I immediately noticed those swap buttons that weren't there before.
i keep getting the most annoying fury in tartarus brrr
iirc if you die against one fury in tartarus it will always be the one you fight until you beat her
though i'm not sure
i know it's easy to beat all of them
but i get the most annoying one almost every time
i hate tisiphone
tiss you can just bumrush xD
but tisiphone is great, (spoilers ahead) ||zag even eventually teaches her to say his name||
and she imo telegraphs pretty well
i really hate that she only says murder or murderer and those black screens are annoying as hell
alecto is probably the easiest
but tisiphone is great, (spoilers ahead) ||zag even eventually teaches her to say his name||
this is the best quest change my mind
I actually like tsiphone the best, because all of her attacks originate from herself and she spawns no additional enemies. Makes it easy to focus.
just dash
does sturdy stack? like i have the hermes bone that gives it when i dash, but now i have the option to get it on my weapon when i attack or special
potential minor spoiler for you but was it ||phase 1 or phase 2||
||...How do you tella apart the phases?||
||He seemingly dies after the first phase (health bar is empty). Then gets back up and has a different moveset.||
Well now I am big mad and also my self-esteem plummeled waaaaaaaay down.
I'm sorry 😦
The damage reduction won't stack with other sturdy boons, but will stack with other sources of damage reduction.
potential minor spoiler for you but was it ||phase 1 or phase 2||
it was ||phase 2||
I guess my Lthis close" was actually "so far away"
I'm not particularly new having completed the prologue but I'm unable to spend any ambrosia, I've maxed achillies and nyx with the other gift but don't know how to give ambrosia any help?
Epilogue*
Ambrosia can sometimes be locked behind favours or RNG dialogue
after the last heart is unlocked the next time you see them can give
Well, unless dialogue says no
Ohhh thanks, I haven't completed any favours so that explains it
Sometimes it's just a lot of dialogue in general before the brib- I mean gifting can work
Lol xD thanks for the info
Good luck!
Also I'd upgrade that "sometimes" to "always". I don't think there's a single character that can be gifted ambrosia outright after getting there with nectar.
I appreciate the heads up
what can i do against the witches who throw purple balls at you?
Or deflect em with an Athena boon
Note: Some ranged attacks do not destroy the projectiles, most notably the attack of the adamant rail.
Anybody else's game randomly close while on the Switch?
(Unrelated, but I want to share: On the list of my favourite quotes from this game goes:
"Bone Hydra, if you understand me, menancingly hiss!"
[Menancing hissing])
I was fighting through Asphodel with the fists while under a Chaos boon that lowered my speed
My favourite is "Wavemakers, I can also make waves."
@modest cove you're best off posting in #h1-tech-fixes describing what's going wrong
Sorry that this is happening to you
Sorry #h1-tech-support
lets go
gg i beat it
Congrats!
Oh there's more.
Way more.
yeah i see
Is it possible to gift bottles of nectar to patroclus? The option does not appear when i talk to him so i was wondering if i'll be able to do it later on or if he just hates my guts that much
Did you check the codex to learn his name?
Oh i don't think i did
Last I recall you had to do that so that Zag can actually call him by name
but that might have changed
When you talk to him does it actually say his name?
I know his name is patroclus but at this point i'm not sure if i saw it on my screen on from a streamer-
I'm checking the codex real quick
Check that, if Zag says "Oh so that's his name" then you should be good here on out. Assuming SGG didn't change it lol
Yep he did
Thanks!
Now i can give him this bottle of nectar i've been holding on for days
It's something very minor, we should get the impulse to check codex whenever it updates, but shrug not me!
I obsessively check it every time it updates. Other end of the spectrum I guess.
I usually wait for it to fill up and then take some time to read it
I didn't know reading it actually did something in game
That's the only time it's super important if I recall
Otherwise it's lore and info
Yeah which is very interesting
But since it updates as you progress into the game i just want to read it all in one go
There's one other instance that I can think of, but it mainly keeps you from getting a bit of dialogue, not actual character progression. I think so at least.
Beats me, I started checking codex more frequently after that to check relationships and stuff so I might've gotten other instances by accident
Which weapons and upgrades in the mirror would u recommend to get first?
It's about Thanatos' codex entry, spoiler if you haven't completed that one yet: ||Achilles theorizes that Zagreus is, in fact, the God of Blood. You can talk directly to Achilles about it later.||
I'll start reading it more often then. It's fine to me either way
Oh that, yeah I got that by accident lol
||Also I had Zag say "I'm the god of blood" in response to one of those Hades clips that play after starting a run.||
hi, what's the point of upgrading hera bow if I'm using the regenerating cast ability?
I notice it only reduces bloodstone drop time but not sure why I would want that when it can't drop anyways
and boiling blood means it's better for me the stone stays inside the enemy
It might not do anything for that cast, not sure. It helps alot for the other cast though
I'm not sure since i'm no expert but i think it's in case you wanna use a bursty build? I use the triple stone perk on hera's bow and with artemis' cast boon i do want my stones to come back asap, especially if i have exit wounds as well
The burst damage is much higher for the other cast with upgrades yeah
You still do get 2 seconds of lodge time if regenerating cast is maxed
3 vs 5 I think
Hey guys just want to ask what weapon is easiest to get a clear
^
so how do i get more titan blood for my weapons? i got 6 near the beginning and immediately blew it on whatever seemed neat, but i'd think there'd be more in the game
do i have to talk to the trader lad in the lounge? or do i have to wait until i beat the game for the first time?
Hey guys just want to ask what weapon is easiest to get a clear
depends on your style
ok so i think ive locked myself out of getting the codex
@rough ginkgo yes just beat the game
got it
i didnt talk to achilles much before finishing a run and now now i keep talking to him and never gives it to me
also, what happens if you're using the hera bow (i think that's what it's called) and you have a nonstandard cast? like, what happens with aphrodite's, or demeter's?
so how do i get more titan blood for my weapons? i got 6 near the beginning and immediately blew it on whatever seemed neat, but i'd think there'd be more in the game
do i have to talk to the trader lad in the lounge? or do i have to wait until i beat the game for the first time?
beat the furys with other weapons
beat the game
got it, think i got everything i can from furies
ok, ive finished like 5 runs at his point ,ive seen people get it before finish 1, guess ill ... just die and talk to him until he gives it?
@rough ginkgo Don't get them, they're bad
How do you unlock the hidden weapons?
@unreal berry the cast upgrades in general, or those specific 2?
i invested 5 blood on bow and talked to artemis and nada
@rough ginkgo only those 2
You need to have the Spear hidden aspect unlocked first.
my question remains, though
what happens if you have a nonstandard cast and load it into the bow?
It throws them out at the end
yeah nvm, one of us doesn't understand the other here
The Crush Shot casts only hit slightly after the point of impact
@north quail They're are very strong I can tell you that
i don't play the bow it doesn't go with my style
Fair
It's good nonetheless
Currently I'm using sword
i mostly use twin fists
no
The one weapon I don't use anymore is spear tho
Ohhh
I did with ares/demeter yesterday

i've only seen one duo and i think it was poseidon + artemis
i've seen like 3 and those were aphrodite + athena, 2 others were athena + something
Dionysus + Demeter + Zeus
what
Those are the best
triple?
wdym?
ok, so more specific question
still using hera aspect bow, what happens if i take athena's phalanx shot? will my arrows with casts loaded explode and/or deflect?
choosing between that and divine dash
divine dash is the best dash imo
Like I said before, the Casts are thrown out at the arrow's point of impact
That's how Hera works
Nothing more
When I went into a room and there was a ||singing|| lady, that was really cool
Can you see somewhere what bosses you've done with each weapon, or need to keep note of it outside of game? Funny is, game mentioned it but I forgot to do it
||codex|| dont seem to mention it
later in the game you will ||access the administrative chamber, which contains a permanent record of all your escape attempts as well as how many runs you did with what boons/weapons/aspects/keepsakes and such||
otherwise if you beat the game once ||you will unlock the pact of punishment which will show you how far you went in a run with a weapon||
is there some sort of hades guide?
there are many on the community hub
community hub is?
steam community hub i mean
Ahhh
I just lost to the third boss after defeating the second for the first time
so bummed :x
it's ok now you know what to expect
I tried to go for the ||minotor|| first but that didn't work well
tbh I think that method is easier but it's still a much harder fight than the first 2 imo
i often go for ||theseus|| first, as he has less health, so goes down faster and then i only have to focus on one thing
but i think i might be in the minority there
Probably, because even though his health is lower, ||once you get him to half HP|| you're gonna be dealing with much more stuff than necessary, which you can avoid if you choose to ||go for the Bull first.||
how much playtime do u have guys
my strategy for a long time was to go for ||theseus||, phase him, then immediately drop ||mort|| on him as soon as he left invincibility, effectively allowing me to skip most of his second phase
I dont think they have ||mort||
i haven’t done that specifically in while tho, and sometimes i do go for ||asterius|| now
yeah fair, was replying to Eule
how much playtime do u have guys
like 250 hours
125 hours here!
click ur icon and it is under profile u may have to wait a few weeks though for it to load
how do i check my attemps
You can buy a scrying dish for your room
oh
It tells you run amount and enemies killed
and im close i got to the bull then he left the room then i died in the next room?
The ||bull is a miniboss. Floor 3 has its boss on i want to say room 35ish|| someone with more time in the game probably knows exactly what room
okok
somewhere there. 33 pops in my head
||he will always leave before you kill him too||
but you'll know since you'll get a room of nothing but a reward or charon pre boss shop
once you kill the last boss is the game over?
no
That's just the ||beginning||
there's still more
||Tutorial|| complete
That's when ||it starts lol||
ok good i really like this game
||there is no escape||
is titan blood in ||charon styx shop 100% of the time?||
Best supergiant game by far tbh. And Transistor is in my top 5 lol
Oh is it really?
idk i never buy it lol
Must be 1.0 thing
How do I use ambrosia? Never had a use for it so far
could be wrong but i thought so
Ambrosia is used once you get past people's ||favours and big dialogue|| once you give them enough nectar
thank you
Usually the ||last heart is when you can give ambrosia||
Is it fine just to give one person as much as possible? I'm a Meg simp
yes
Not a bad thing, your game, your plays. Share the love though
Gotta make everyone like us
i did that with thanatos at first
goodest boi deserves some too 
||Patroclus|| is next. He's my favourite sad boy
||Poor Patty||
Have you read the book Song of Achilles? ||Pat is the main character|| and it's so good
I have not, I'll take a look when I have time
Does activating god mode locks you out of some steam achievements?
I don’t think god mode locks you out of any achievements
is there any benefit to giving multiple ambrosia to same god?
mirror question : what's best between God's Pride (increased epic boons) and God's Legacy (increased legendary/duo boons) ?
I get more general use out of Gods' Pride personally but if you're hunting for a particular duo or legendary, Legacy can help
I don't think it's a huge make-or-break decision in terms of general gameplay
legendary got me a fishing boon as first gift of the run when I leveled it, maybe i'll swap ^^
I think that one's mostly scripted to show up? I've literally only seen Poseidon's fishing point boon once, immediately after I purchased the Rod of Fishing
yeah that is a scripted event unrelated to the mirror talent, just a coincidence
The fishing boon can be reacquired but it takes a lot of effort to do so and is likely not worth it really.
The fishing boon requires you to get the 2 treasure boons in posideons set then it can unlock for you again
The one where you start off with it is scripted
For the bow, what does this mean? “Release Y While Flashing to Power Shot”
I’m holding down Y, charging, and releasing the shot.
Hold down Y, look at Zag, of he flashes white, release the arrow to powershot
There's a rythm to it
If you do it right you should hear a distinct "swoosh" sound.
Note the timing is shorter if you dash strike.
Takes some practice to nail it down but it's worth it.
Okay sweet
Thanks for the explanation!
I figured it was something simple I was overlooking
Hello is there a specific thing I need to do for ||thanatos legendary keepsake?||
I was wondering, does the ||Lucky Tooth keepsate Skelly gives you|| stack with your regular death defiance?
I have his butterfly at 3* and give him the honey thing everytime but now the honey thing doesn't pop up anymore, not sure what to do next
Lucky tooth is separate from DDs or SD, it's just an additional thing
For the Than companion you just need to wait and talk to him until his hearts unlock
@green epoch yes and it activates last
Thx
so when a boon says it replenishes 1 use of Death Defiance and I get it while I'm at 3 uses, I'd still only have 3 right?
how does the motives work ?
Chaos legendary boon and Skelly's keepsake give you an extra death defiance that doesn't count against the cap, and there (at least was, maybe still is) a trick to get the replenished defiance to stick if you're running Stubborn Defiance.
still is
if your stubborn defiance is used up
athena will fill it
And stubborn defiance will make a new spot in the next room
hello! i bought hades for my mac today but had to return it cause it turns out my computer wasn't strong enough to run it. kept crashing. but i was gonna buy it for my switch instead! are there any differences between the PC version and the switch version? or are they exactly the same?
theyre the same
theres no exclusive content or anything
although apparently the pc version runs smoother than the switch version (which doesnt apply to your situation)
haha sweet! thanks sm
Hello guys, I've been playing this games since the days before yesterday
I have a question: why have the first two bosses stopped dropping me blood and diamons? Do I just have to get good?
yeah. each boss only drops blood and diamond once per weapon per "difficult level"
you can only get one of each for each weapon
They drop those rewards only once per weapon and will reset after beating the final boss
for now don't worry about the "difficulty level" yet
Just enjoy getting rid of that pesky Hydra 
Yeah I've beaten hydra a couple of times, it's the next stages that usually kill me ahahahah
Also, i've used up all my blood into the giant sword, can i get those back and use them on the gauntles?
yeah. if you want blood you should try every weapon. but if you did that already then you kinda need to clear the first run before you can get more.
unfortunately you can't rescind the blood you invested.
you can sometimes trade other items for titan blood at the brooker
check after each run
Oh i see, ty everyone!! Now back to trying ti reach the minotaur ahahahh
Good luck! 
Is here a point in giving hades nectar?
My codex for Hades has a Heart with a keylock in it what does it mean ?
You'll have to complete certain conditions for it to unlock. After that you can give him more nectar
oh cool
Yeah hades is just like any other character you need to find the story requirements to get closer to him
After playing for months staring at that clock heart, it feels weird to be able to do that.
Yep agreed the dialogue around it is..... weird he’s the only static character in the game and now he’s not
Is there a weapon and boon guide for a newbie like me?
how do I get the ability to unlock fists?
they arent in the training room for me?
do I need to get to a certain level or something?
Yeah you need to get to the 3rd level I think
elysium?
Yeah
Are there any ways of getting Titan’s blood other than trading or boss rewards?
fishing (super rare) or Styx shop
The game will have a house contractor build to unlock fishing and will teach you about it
I have the rod, but how does fishing actually work, I’ve only managed to do it successfully once
try the finger trick: cover the buoy with your finger just barely, wait for a flash of light on top of your finger. this eliminates all the bouncing up and down distraction.
Ohh there’s a flash
yes and a special audio cue
Ok that helps a lot
I usually work on audio clues rather than visual
The bobbing is incredibly distracting, I thought it was the cue
or just hope that you get 3 bobs and then the instant the bobber moves for the fourth time just reel it in for a quick perfect catch (maximum of 4 bobs on a fish)
also fish can only "fake out" three times
But yeah that helps a lot
The perfect catch timing window is pretty strick I believe it’s 3 frames
it's 2 frames
I’m playing on switch
Oh ok it’s a 20 frame window that’s good
someone datamined and said it's .34s
I missed it by an order of magnitude, my math is failing me
Fishing in Hades: Fighting-Game level reaction/timing 
Fishing requires more skill than actually playing the game lol
how do I unlock aspects ? I see 3 additional but all locked and no indication
please check the pins in #h1-story-discussion
how do you even see aspects? ive just bought the last weapon but dont know how to see or change them
you have to beat a run first
Aspects are the titans blood right?
Mine are unlocked and available for use, but I havent even finished Elysium
Yeah I thought you just needed to unlock all weapons
you don't need to beat a run, you just need to do a run
im on a run now so will probably show up when im back
Good luck!
most things that are unlockable will require you do a run, die or win, in order to refresh the House for new stuff
Does Life affirmation from Aphrodite increase the max health gained from previous rewards, or just from that point onward?
from that point onward
ok thanks
What blessings do you guys thing work best with the Spear?
I like athena on the special and ares, Dionysus, or posideon on the attack but it’s not my favorite weapon
depends a lot on which aspect you're using. My personal preference is aspect of hades, which puts a lot of focus on the attack and not on the special. Divine Strike is pretty good for the damage boost and for deflections, given the spears long hitbox, or any attack boon that gives a percentage damage boost since the damage is pretty good for the spear.
If you get lucky and get the serrated edge upgrade, then hunter's dash will be top priority, which will make your dash strikes deal hella damage
for aspect of hades, i put on divine strike and deadly flourish
and do either attack or special build depending on what hammers are given to me
this is for easy access to deadly reversal, which is easy enough to do with divine spins
with Distant Memory (+10% damage to distant foes) does that apply to damage from DoTs like Decay, Hangover and Jolted?
I almost beat the Champions my first ever attempt at them. Granted, I had a really good blade rift build that let me just run away while spamming them everywhere for good DOT, but still
I feel like those two are gonna be my primary wall. I would have been slaughtered with a more active or melee build
My goal is to just reach them consistently now
How do you use titan blood
unlock all of the weapons
I'm 2 keys away from getting the last weapon, I can't wait
nice
so far the bow's been the best for me...weirdly. I expected it to feel weird, but the dash -> charge shot feels really fluid to me
Same. In training mode, bow felt really weak but then it turned out it’s great (the daedalus upgrades are great)
personally I hate bow
my hands hated it until I switched to my gamepad. Bow with the keyboard and mouse was painful
Oh, i can imagine. I think bow (and any targeting) only works for me because I’m playing on switch, which has aim assist.
yeah the aim assist helps a ton as well. I hit a lot more using the gamepad
just aim in their general direction between dashes and the game does the rest
I’ve played other roguelikes and I always steer away from targeted builds because they dont have aim assist. Good thing hades has it.
the targeting is actually amazing overall, props to the devs. the melee weapons lock to exactly the enemy I want every time
I'm gonna have trouble picking a favorite weapon...they're all really fun to me
and I haven't unlocked the variants yet
I'm actually looking forward to that one a lot lol
Hey guys, Just completed my first full run! loving the game so far! i want to try and do a Cast build with Stygius aspect of Poseidon. any tips on what boons/upgrades are best for it??
im guessing something like artemis for the cast with crit?
@sinful trail how many runs did it it take you? I'm still trying haha
i completed it on my 21st escape attempt
Phalanx Shot with Lightning Phalanx is solif if you want to try Poseidon
Although Artemis isn't bad.
2 runs were a wash tho. like i suicided to get out lol so 19 real tries i guess
and ok ty @sly vigil
Also i JUST found out that the Mirror of night has a second set of talents you can swap between.
Is it an "Either this one or that one"? Any favorites from this alternative list??
LOOOL same @silent trail figured that out like 20 runs in
I'm overwhelmed by the options when discovering this haha
11 runs and I managed to reach the Champions for the first time and almost won. I'm not really concerned with how long it takes me though. Could be in 3 more runs, could take another 50
Personally I think the night ones are much better, especially for new players.
Dark Regeneration is fan favourite for mirror flip side.
@sly vigil my dude you're an mvp of this channel you're constantly helping others. love it.
dark regen is amazing
when they came out i used to complain that they were garbage but idk i think most of them have uses now
I like the obol alternative, because I like fat stacks of money.
I just have too much free time I guess.
oh speaking of Lightning Phalanx... is there any tips or tricks to get a duo doon??
yes
foxhope has value 
Ikr
Thanks!
except for stubborn defiance i still think that one sucks
What whats dark regenerwtion again?
high heat players use it all the time
oh speaking of Lightning Phalanx... is there any tips or tricks to get a duo doon??
Not really. Just learn the requirements before you go.
Darkness heals you for 60% value
Which makes darkness room heal, troves can heal
Ohhh right, from darkness crystals. Yeah it’s really great
Shop items can heal
darkness from boss drops heal too, and they heal a lot
Boss can heal
Yeah I don’t think i’ll swap that out haha
Maybe i’m just new, but the default ones seem better to me than their flip versions
I have some flips but very few
that one's amazing when you died on the final boss and the next run you can collect darkness from all the previous bosses for big heals
Early game is Ambrosia worth turning to Titan Blood? I'm no where near maxing out someone's hearts with me which I think is what it's for? Without too many spoilers
i would say keep it
Used all my blood on one form and don't know how to get more for other weapons.
Ah okay
because the trade isn't great from what i remember
did you beat the game at least once?
because if so i can explain how titan blood works
You should hang on to Ambrosia because you will need a decent amount of it all at once.
Thanks again all
I haven't beat it once yet @tough grove :( run Number 26 here we go...
ah ok
This game is hard for me. I have bad hands so don't play intense games any more so it's rough
you get the big meta resources later on so it's not worth trading them
I just wanna say, I really LOVE what the game is doing with the loops. So much voice lines adapting to what you’re doing or what you just did. Even the item to replenish 1 dark defiance has a voice line.
Yeah i do not like Roguelike games or dungeon crawler but I love Supergiant games and had to support them and they're definitely making two genres I didn't like work well
Yeh, the sheer amount of dialogue in the game is constantly impressive. I never get mad about dying because I'm all "alright cool, time to go chill with everyone and see what's up"
Oh okay one more I could not find in game! "dash before getting hit" is there some icon or window I'm missing on this?
Agree. And there are a lot of times that I have my personal goal in my mind (like try killing hydra again) and then Zag will say it, and I’m just really happy when game does that.
Oh okay one more I could not find in game! "dash before getting hit" is there some icon or window I'm missing on this?
@silent trail never tried picking boons for this yet 😅 i dont know the window too
Definitely with you @wraith saffron
I feel like Hades is gonna ruin other roguelites for me because it's just...a freaking masterpiece of the genre. Absolutely nothing about the game is frustrating and it's addictive both for its gameplay and its characters
Supergiant has ruined a lot for me and I love them for it @leaden whale
Hades ruins Bastion for me
I hope other games in the genre will take a page from Hades' book and try harder to intertwine the narrative and the gameplay for a satisfying loop
cause this is just amazing stuff
Agree agree
they don't have to be on the same level, cause Hades went...really, really extra with it
but just more, I suppose
the problem I had with, say, Gungeon, was that each failed run barely felt like I made any meaningful progress. It felt like I was always being thrown back to square 1, which hurts in a game where a run takes over an hour
Nuclear Throne didn't have that problem because it takes like 15 minutes to reach the Throne if you survive at all
I still love Gungeon, mind, but that game's a lot more frustrating for me
@sly vigil ah shoot, I haven't played bastion yet, but it sits in my library
It's funny, I never played Bastion which is like the OG hit game for Supergiant. I did play Transistor though, which was cool
This is my first supergiant game dont kill me
I only played Hades. But I also now own Pyre because it was free when I first bought Hades on steam.
I hope other games in the genre will take a page from Hades' book and try harder to intertwine the narrative and the gameplay for a satisfying loop
so... can we have sgg revolutionize the horror genre next
If you like how the bow plays in this, @wraith saffron , you'd probably like combat in Transistor. It has that stop-and-go fluidity to it
Quite literally stop, in Transistor's case
I’ll look into it!
I want to see SGG's spin on the RTS genre
actually my request is changing to traditional turn-based rpg
something revolutionary like off or lisa
the question is will SGG ever abandon their isometric root
they did for one game and then they said never again
yes
hiii ^^ I have a question
I'll try to answer if I know
im not sure if this is the correct channel to ask this question
but I have finished the game but I havent met Thanatos yet
np, not like this channel is super busy
is there a reason why ?
Ah Than is super RNG
but I don't recall if there's a specific pre-req to see em
How many runs?
I'm not seeing anything about pre-reqs for Than... weird uh
Than is actually my last character to unlock if im not mistaken
You're losing hp in areas 1-3?
Only pre-req I'm seeing is that you need to lose hp
depends, only if I make a mistake by accident
ok ill try that. if it doesnt work, is there another way?
i've also tried to read the hades wiki but I have not seen anything
Don't think so. Need to lose hp and just run through some normal? rooms
Yeah I'm looking at wiki too lol
I ran into him by accident my first time, but my playstyle forces me to lose hp 
is it necessary to have heat or no?
The damage is only a pre-req he's very RNG dependent
I don't think you need to take damage every room
i got him in the third area like 15 runs in i think
not certain
on my old profile i was at like 30 runs and never got him
There isn't a way to force him out, it's just whenever he feels like it. There may be a pre-req I'm missing also because I tended to talk to everyone at the house
Might be a dialogue piece from someone mentioning him
Hi everyone, I got the game today, but I'm curious about one thing.
How do you change between options on the Mirror of Night?
Nyx should tell you the mirror got an upgrade, can just click on the talent I think
Okay cool. Thank you!
In the middle of a run, if you press t he button to see your collected boons, you can select one to kind of like "pin" it
You can select all of your collected boons
What does that do? It wasn't really explained
Pinning your boons doesn't do anything in the game. If you successfully "complete" a run, the end-run screen allows you to pin boons to show off (i.e. post-game screenshots), but during a run it does nothing.
Ahhh ok thanks!
How do you unlock the other 2 weapons? Do you just keep playing or is there something I have to do?
Might need more runs
you have to unlock the previous weapons first
They unlock pretty early as you keep playing. Nothing really special about the base weapon unlocks
I have all 6 of them at 7 hours played
How do i unlock the very last keepsake and from who?
That's a pretty huge spoiler, do you really want to know?
Yah sure
dm it to him, don't put it here
Alright.
Hammer or Athena\Wine god double boon room? 😄
that depends on the build
probably hammer then
I have wine god debuff attack and thats it
debuf on attack
ok, thanks!
Took Serrated Point. Very interesting. Now, triple dash would be awesome 😄
I wonder if it will screw me over on some boss attacks
Only if you believe it will
Holy cow, Megaera just exploded
F
That transition from Meg smugly mocking you after each loss to her getting increasingly annoyed that she's no longer a threat to you
So many small touches and I'm not even that far yet
Finally got to start Hades tonight after getting it yesterday. Such an awesome game, major props to the devs
why play other roguelites, right 😄
Hey fellas I have some questions and hoping someone can guide me a little.
I revealed some weapons and spent all my titan blood like an idiot on a ton of level 1 variants.
Now I realize I need a ton more titan blood but the blood you get from first boss is pretty much spent across the board.
You can get more blood later
Tips for getting more blood?
Broker Shade, Charon shop sometimes ||at Styx|| and you'll learn about another way after you beat final boss
Oh and some ||minor prophecies do too||
Well I have an ambrosia and the shop guy in the lounge will let me spend 2 diamonds for one ambrosia and then can spend one ambrosia for one titan blood.
Is this a bad trade?
I'd holdon to diamonds and ambrosia
- 2 Diamond + 1 Ambrosia then into - 1 Ambrosia for + 1 Titan Blood
They'll be important later
If you have excess, which I doubt >_>
Yeah holdon to those, blood you can gather more
Shotgun shield
Love it! Haha
There's another weapon that can do shotgun
but yeah just keep playing you'll get more
Only weapon I haven't felt great love for so far is Fists annnnnd hmm yeah just fists.
For future reference, you can test out aspects by spending blood, going on a run and then giving up. You'll return to the courtyard before you spent blood... just make sure to NEVER go back into bedroom after spending blood if usin this method
Too late for that!
I like the ones I chose it's just
Now I am all out with a ton of level 1 variants.
😂
Yeah I get you, I'm just telling you for future reference if you wanted to test out max aspects and such
Good luck!
Sure
Boons n gods n stuff.
Is there like a tier list?
Is there specific gods I should be favoring?
Basically what's the "meta" ?
Not at all, no meta 'round these parts
Cool cool.
There are some recommended stuff though depending on weapon
I would definitely say only god I have never loved any of the options was Poseidon.
Sure sure I will take any of this advice.
The amount of different builds in this game is straight up staggering. A lot of roguelites will brag about "never having the same run twice" but still feel a bit too similar every run. Hades....I swear it feels like a different game some runs
Enemy variety also helps, plus some enemies simply won't spawn in some runs. There's been a lot of "WHAT IS THAT?" moments, even 10 hours in
I recently had a "what was that just now?" moment around 100 hours in. Though to be fair, it was related to something you could not unlock before this patch.
A question: Every time I have to choose between 2 gods, Do I lose something when I don't choose 1? The god that I do not choose always seems upset.
Not anymore I believe, but there is no way to not upset the other god. Other than not entering those chambers at all.
THanks
There’s an opportunity cost, I think it may be impossible to get special boons like ||duos|| and ||legendaries|| in those rooms
||Duos|| yes but ||Legendaries|| I'm not so sure
That would make sense
Hey guys
I’m assuming it’s balanced so you can’t stack ||prerequisite boons|| and ||duos|| in the same room
Also hello!
Hi everyone, I’m a somewhat new player and have been binge playing Hades all of today and yesterday. I reached the || Hades fight at the surface and unlocked Demeter || today but am struggling with getting past that point. Does anyone have tips on || fighting Hades ||?
Apart from Git Gud, I recommend using the ||Acorn||
Dashing towards Redacted helps I heard
Yes for the final floor I like to equip either the ||acorn keepsake|| or the ||broken spearpoint||
As for redacted, use cover, and there are numerous tells for each of their attacks. Maybe watching footage online to notice them so you don’t have to learn it during the frantic movement of your own run?
There’s an opportunity cost, I think it may be impossible to get special boons like ||duos|| and ||legendaries|| in those rooms
||Duos|| yes but ||Legendaries|| I'm not so sure
||You can get legendary and duo boons from trials (just not the duos between the gods in the trial) for sure||
you can’t get ||any duos at all in trials||
VICTORY! That is all!
Ooooh good points thank you all
Did they change that? I thought you just couldn't get the duo from the two participating gods but any duo with either of them + another god was fair game.
do keepsakes only effect the rarity on the first boon that shows up from that god or all of them? Since it says "the next boon you find will be (insert god here)" i assume it only effects the likelihood it will show up on the first drop once you equip it?
or if i bring the thunder signet will it apply to the first boon i find after each zone?
Only weapon I haven't felt great love for so far is Fists annnnnd hmm yeah just fists.
@red depot I found that spamming dash attack works better for fists
hey so is there a way to farm titan blood? I lost to hades and im on my 20th attempt but notice the fury sisters only drop darkness now / purple gems?
I also messed up and spent the three i had on the stupid gun...
@hasty wyvern they drop from sisters and hades the first time you beat them with a wpn
do keepsakes only effect the rarity on the first boon that shows up from that god or all of them? Since it says "the next boon you find will be (insert god here)" i assume it only effects the likelihood it will show up on the first drop once you equip it?
@midnight shore The rarity will apply on every boon from that god, you just only force the god to show up once.
Fury sisters award titan blood each time you beat them with a specific weapon for the first time. So you can collect 6 that way
@lyric forge i see, so if i have the thunder signet fromt he start, the rarity will be applied on every zeus boon, but it only forces it to show up in 1-1
crap.
after 1-1 its just as likely to show up as any other boon
lol ok ty
It's slightly more likely to show up, as gods that you already have get increased chance to spawn again, independent of the keepsake. But if you get a Zeus boon with the keepsake equipped every following Zeus boon will also get the rarity boost as long as you have it equipped.
what are erebus gates? there's an option in the contractor for those to appear for 5 diamonds, worth buying?
Yes but not a priority, I'd say?
They give you the option to get into ||special gates||, where you have to ||kill every enemy without being hit once||. If you manage it you get an ||empowered reward||, for things like health or money it's ||double effectivness, so 50 health or 200 obols||, for boons it's ||better rarity||. They are ||heat gated though, you need at least 5, 10, 15 heat active to enter them in Tartarus, Asphodel, Elysium respectively||.
if you don't have heat, do they even show up with the contractor upgrade unlocked?
Yes, they do show up but you won't be able to enter.
They aren't exit doors in the classical sense, they act like Chaos gates.
ah okay
I know there's a contractor upgrade for fated authority for keys, and i don't have fated authority unlocked, so wondering if that's worth purchasing now
That one is actually very good. I think it works even without you having either Authority or Persuasion unlocked but I'm not 100% sure there.
yeah i don't have that many keys atm, but i have 5 diamonds
it's either that upgrade or the nectar gives poms one
Just got the game yesterday, and I was curious. Is it normal to only get darkness on your boss runs? I only managed to get Titan's blood 4 times before it switched and the hydra's diamond once. Haven't beat the hydra since, but whenever I encounter him, it says I'll just get darkness
you can only get titan blood once per weapon
after that it's darkness
same with the other boss drops
at least until you beat the final boss, and then some options open up
Personally if you're new and are still unlocking stuff it might be worthwhile to keep a stack of 10 diamonds handy. You need them for certain quests that I'm fairly certain you want to do.
oof 10 diamonds is a lot
Oh, I didn't know that :
thanks for answering.
dammit I traded one titan blood for easy gems D:
Don't worry Ian, there will be lots more to come. It's just that you can't access them right now.
you can titan blood for beating the final boss as well with the weapon, and from fated prophecies
okay thanks, is the only other way to get diamonds + titans blood is through the dubious trader..?
oh okay thanks
thats a relief
until you beat the game yes
imo, don't try for gems, they're the least important resource imo
I had no idea because the first time I beat Meg, I also somehow managed to beat Hydra on that run too and it started to confuse me when I stopped getting the blood etc and when I managed to reach the hydra again a 2nd + 3rd time it was with the same weapon
ah okay
quick tip, if you've unlocked the yellow mirror talents
when do I get my fishing pole?
contractor upgrade @jade jay
@civic pivot use the darkness gives health
that well give you a big boost to your hp after you beat a boss
- the fountain inbetween
@civic pivot also make sure you unlock the double dash ability
oh, that's clever 0_0 been ignoring them because the purple mirror talents I have are nearly maxed out for the most part
dash strikes are clearly the best :v
i much prefer darkness gives health over the 3hp per chamber
cuz then you can buy like the cheap darkness from charon wells and it doubles as health
okay thanks for the advice
ah yeah makes sense :0
Btw since I'm here, is there any benefit to gifting outside getting the relic? or is it just for story purposes
certain characters will give you things after you've gifted a bunch
I actually have a related question about that but I dunno how to spoiler tag
ah thanks
Say, I'm still in 2 hours gameplay, defeated meg then died in the next 2 chambers.. Do I really have to start from the beginning again? Or is there a way to skip the first part?
no
gotta start from the beginning
tis a roguelike
once you get good enough + mirror upgrades, that first level goes through fast
I see, not complaining just curious
Quite grindy and skill reliable but also the story so rich. Man I love the game
question about ambrosia, is there any point in having more than 6 of those since there are only 6
||companions?||
regarding ambrosia ||you need 15 in total each to level up the companions, so hold on to your booze brother||
ah good to know, was wondering if i could just exchange some for titan blood, but guess i'll hold on to them
i mean if you really want to it wouldnt be the worst trade available since theyre worth the same
when do i get the chance to spend titans blood i havent found where to spend it yet and ive cleared the second boss so far
unlock all the weapons
Does anyone know how to view achievements on epic? I see them pop up when I earn them but then they go away
shift+f3
Thank’s
How do the God Keepsakes work when they say "The next boon you find will be from X"?
Is it just ONE boon or like EVERY boon?
The next upcoming boon, will guaranteed be the god keepsake that you equipped
is it consumed then?
It has a charge that is consumed the moment you accept the boon from said god
So can I equip it again at the end of a Biome?
But you can still keep the keepsake on and get higher rarity boons from them
Hermes might appear before the god but thats just a thing he does
so I cant use the item to get multiple guaranteed boons from one god?
Because ik you can equip keepsakes between zones
which makes me wonder if you can equip it again to get another guaranteed boon
You cannot get multiple guaranteed boons from a single god, you can however switch to another god's boon to try and get something that combos with your existing boons
so you can get guaranteed god combos, but not stack one god booo
If i'm not mistaken, yes. The charge of the keepsake does not refresh each biome
but you can always use fated authority to get force them into your run
idk what that is yet 😦
it is a mirror perk, you'll get it eventually!
Hey quick quesiton. for the shield build with aspect of chaos, what are the best boons to try and grab?
Lightning Flourish Drunken Flourish Curse of Pain/Agony Frost Flourish (with Artic Blast)
guys I was looking on controls and it has a number 1 saying for "summon" whats that
Don't worry about that yet. It's a mid-late game mechanic called ||"companion"||.
Hi everyone! Just joined
yo welcome buddy
heya. Same here. Quick question: is it a good idea to play all weapons. Choose whichever one gives 20% darkness?
Or should I just stick with 1 and get good
I’ve just been following dark thirst to start, I think I’d recommend that while you still son’t have a favourite? Idk
interesting. I finally got the rail and am going Eris aspect. Tempted to just go far in runs with that.. but you only get titan blood reward the first time you kill a boss with a new weapon?
i got to hades on my 17th try ever
once you beat the final boss for the 1st time theres a kinda spoilery way to get more blood
aha
the prophecies are also a way to get blood
Tbh I haven’t really enjoyed the rail much
It gets good later on but early in a run I find it kinda underwhelming
i like melting enemies with zeus's lightning bolts with the rail
how valuable are ambrosias early on compared to titan blood?
^
i can trade an ambrosias for a titan blood, but guessing its a bad trade. only seen a single ambrosia
@kind breach whens the weekly challenges starting again?
I’ve been making that trade most of the time, no problems here yet
That’s not tiank, boredhub 
Question, does Attack modifiers affect the damage of Dash-Strike?
@sleek whale That isn't the right ping bro
Same profile pic but not the same person
F
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lolololol
well @left kindle
when are the weekly challenges starting again
Good question
What does increasing rarity do to boons when you encounter Eurydice?
like, what does it do?
If I understood it correctly, it makes them stronger, just like levelling up, but afer levelling them up, they then grow more stronger
That is why rarity matters in Boons
oh I see, thanks
How do i unlock ||the fourth aspect of a weapon?||
How can I kill ||thesius|| :x
||focus on the minotaur first, as thesius makes large aoes appear when he's half health. To get around his shield use aoes or dash around him alot||
Tyyy
hi all, how do I unlock aspects for weapons other than the sword?
is it possible for the "exit" of stage 4 to be in an elite room or can i skip them if looking for the fastest exit?
It is very much possible.
oh ok thanks, i thought maybe the exit would replace the elite room
The position of the sack is calculated as follows: Never the first tunnel, and then equal chance of any of the remaining.
If you are lucky, you can get an elite reward and the sack at the same time.
oh really never the first one? wonder why that is
Meaning the elite battle is replaced with the fountain room instead.
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