#h1-for-new-players

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short edge
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Yeah, I m aware of that I own everything they made except pyre.. loved all of them ❤️

lusty spade
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So if I'm struggling a bit at first, and I turn on God mode until I get a wee bit stronger (read: renovations bby) will there be any lasting effects?

obsidian locust
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Lasting effects as in?

lusty spade
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I suppose that's a good question. Will my damage resistance return to normal?

obsidian locust
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By turning it off?

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Yes

lusty spade
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Is the damage resistance the only real effect of God Mode?

obsidian locust
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Yup

lusty spade
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Fantastic, thank you. Artemis is indeed best girl.

obsidian locust
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Nyes squirtnya

lyric sundial
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yo whts dark forsight?

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like what does it do exactly?

sand bridge
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room rewards are divided into 2 categories:

  1. blue laurels - darkness, gems, keys, nectar
  2. gold laurels - hearts, boons, obols, poms, hammers
    dark foresight gives you a higher chance to get rooms with gold laurel rewards.
lyric sundial
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ah

quasi rover
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I'm thinking about getting Hades on Switch. Was waiting for the Switch port and have never played the game on PC (or ever) before. Can you guys recommend the Switch version? Is it a good port?

rocky vector
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I personally prefer the PC

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for the precision

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You will never aim as well on Switch

lusty spade
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I've just bought the Switch version a few hours ago. Some slow in really big groups of enemies. Plays great otherwise though.

quasi rover
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Do you play with mouse and keyboard on pc?

lusty spade
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You're playing with keyboard/mouse

quasi rover
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Doesn't sound very intuitive to play a game like that with mouse and keyboard

tired fulcrum
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KBM is so much more precise imo

quasi rover
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Wasn't it just made to be played primarily with a controller?

fleet nymph
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The developers played it with a controller initially

lusty spade
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The precision is hardly an issue tbh. Very easy to aim with a controller.

tired fulcrum
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I just got used to kbm 😅

quasi rover
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The game itself looks pretty similar to Dead Cells? Is that a valid comparison?

tired fulcrum
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Can't say, didn't play dead cells

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But it's reactive* as hecc

quasi rover
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snappy?

tired fulcrum
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The game itself has a crazy pace

lusty spade
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Well, it's a rouge-lite with fast paced but strategic combat. I could see the comparison being made. Though obviously this one has a different perspective.

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Dead Cells has a bit more focus on always feeling stronger when you die, I don't necessarily get that feeling from Hades because sometimes I screw up real bad haha.

quasi rover
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And what about the difficulty?

tired fulcrum
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It's quite easy when you do 20ish runs

quasi rover
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Dead Cells was quite unfair at times imho or I was just not good enough. Never came past 0BC

tired fulcrum
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Learning the patterns is fun

lusty spade
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I'd say it's easier than Dead Cells, personally.

night heath
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much easier than dead cells

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dead cells is really hard...

lusty spade
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I'd just say Dead Cells has a bit steeper learning curve

quasi rover
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Might be just for me then. Also I love Greek mythology

lusty spade
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There's no way to uh start your run in Asphodel after you've unlocked it, is there?

quasi rover
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Are any guides or something for good builds or something like that? Looks like you can get a lot of skills and weapons. Felt pretty overwhelming in the video reviews I've watched

tired fulcrum
lusty spade
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You can potentially unlock everything can't you?

tired fulcrum
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It takes some time though

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I have nearly 200 hours on Hades and there are still a lot of things to do

lusty spade
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I'm about 6 hours in and I'm trying to get past the second boss

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Felt so easy initially compared to the first, got it down third health and then everything went baaad.

tired fulcrum
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Awww lernie

lusty spade
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Hermes boons are real nice

tired fulcrum
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Ngl
The +3 dashes are a delight

odd forge
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It's quite easy when you do 20ish runs
@tired fulcrum for some of you. Some of us haven't gotten past the second "biome" after twice as many :p

daring oracle
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Dead Cells was quite unfair at times imho or I was just not good enough. Never came past 0BC
@quasi rover when was the last time you played? OBC got turned down in difficulty around a year ago on consoles / PC.

dawn berry
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The balance changes very often

spark yoke
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Heey, soo. What does descending do?

faint umbra
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why dont you try it and find out? its worth it :P

tidal knot
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i have an ability that uses a god gauce, how to i get them?

short edge
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I'd say it's easier than Dead Cells, personally.
@lusty spade dead cells is more Speed and time focused..like some doors won't open cause you didn't reached them in time etc.
Hades seems like more developed like in story aspects and also you know.. depth.. way..

shell elbow
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If I have enough DPS is it possible to beat the bone hydra without his heads spawning?

gilded thistle
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Nope

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Each time you take off a third of their health, heads spawn and he becomes immune

nova star
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Its scripted

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You cant skip these parts of the fight

shell elbow
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What does the duo raity mean?

nova star
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essentially it's a boon that is only given once you get certain boons from 2 different gods

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both gods can give that boon

uneven slate
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There's one duo for each pair of Olympians minus Hermes.

still saffron
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I can see that I can get something that gives my weapons' Dark Thirst 20% more gems? What the heckers is Dark Thirst?

faint umbra
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dark thirst applies to a random weapon and gives you 20% more darkness in your run if you pick that weapon

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its those purple swirls around the weapon

still saffron
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Ohh! The purple one

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Ahh. Didn't know it was called that. Awesome. Thanks a lot. 😄

leaden whale
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hello

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is every thing RNG in hades ?

past abyss
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Its a rougelike so some RNG will be there yes.

Not everything tho, and there are ways of controlling the randomness a bit

leaden whale
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yeah i understand its rougelike, but when entering champers doors, does it make a difference

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or totally RNG

vagrant valley
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I beat meg on my 5 run god it was a hard fight i picked the bow but had a lot of ranged boons saved my life

leaden whale
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is the The spear or Varatha the best weapon

gilded thistle
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Most people's opinion believe it's the shield

pastel cipher
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the 'best' weapon is the one you're most comfy with

vocal nymph
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^

wide shore
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@leaden whale the symbol above the door will tell you the reward you'll get (unless in certain circumstances). What those rewards are is somewhat randomised and can be - as Tinus said - changed a little through options you can unlock

vocal nymph
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shield is the easiest

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best is whatever you're the best at

gilded thistle
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Also, certain things will make the playstyle of the weapons feel different as well

leaden whale
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what is really cool and un-cool at the same time that upgrades control aspect of the game.

vocal nymph
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that's the fun part

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every run plays differently

leaden whale
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in one run i got like a very nice upgrades

vocal nymph
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Hades is super unique

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you have incredibly high control over what you get

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compared to other roguelites

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but that comes later

leaden whale
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what is the name of shield weapon

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maybe i didnt get it yet

vocal nymph
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then you don't have it

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it's a shield

leaden whale
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last weapon i got is the boxing thing

vocal nymph
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you'd know if you had it

leaden whale
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ughh maybe i get it later

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and one last thing, what determine weapons appearance ?

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is it like more i play or more i reach further ?

cold garnet
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kinda like that

wide shore
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@novel edge the shield is called "Aegis" and is the third weapon from the left (between the spear and the bow)

lusty spade
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I haven't tested the aegis yet

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I've gotten pretty comfy with eternal spear. Dodge slash + another dodge has served as nigh invulnerability so far

shell elbow
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Any tips for the third floor boss? The first two bosses I can get past pretty easily now, but I've only done this one when I had an op build. Also, why doesn't the second floor boss drop diamonds anymore? It stopped giving them after I beat boss 3

restive spoke
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Any tips for the third floor boss? The first two bosses I can get past pretty easily now, but I've only done this one when I had an op build. Also, why doesn't the second floor boss drop diamonds anymore? It stopped giving them after I beat boss 3
@shell elbow because u beat them on this difficulty already

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They only drop once on each difficulty

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No matter how many times u beat them

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To get more blood and diamond u need to beat them at a higher difficulty

shell elbow
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How do I increase the difficulty?

restive spoke
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I've gotten pretty comfy with eternal spear. Dodge slash + another dodge has served as nigh invulnerability so far
@lusty spade same I like the spear. But try out the shield it’s really fun

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How do I increase the difficulty?
@shell elbow I’m new as well but I think u can do that after u beat final boss

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It makes sense for u to beat the game and then increase difficulty

loud adder
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@shell elbow try to hang around pillars to protect yourself from both ||Theseus' attacks and Bull's charges || and take on ||only one of them|| at a time. If you struggle avoiding ||Bull's|| attacks and charges, make sure to pick up Athena's boons (notably dash) or try to use ranged weapons for a start.

shell elbow
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Thanks alot 🙂 I've only gotten athenas stuff once so far, so I'll try and focus her my next run

spark yoke
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hey I gave nectar to Hypnos. now I am wondering what he exactly gave me

pulsar frigate
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athena's DD boons only replenish DDs, not give you more

foggy solstice
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Skullys boon has been saving my butt lol

analog marlin
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how to defeat meg

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only met her once lol

restive spoke
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@shell elbow I was partially wrong

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U can still gain blood and diamond on the same difficulty

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If u use different weapons

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So a total of 6 blood and 6 diamonds and so on can be gained on one difficulty

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Because of weapons

summer sentinel
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Yall think the sword or the bow is better for new players?

analog marlin
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BOW

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it is really good

rocky sigil
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@analog marlin Meg generally does a few attacks. If you see here twirl the whip in the air that means she’s gonna do an aoe attack around her and you need to back off. If she crouches that means she’s gonna rush forward you can keep attacking her just stay out of the charge path. Her bullet wave can be attacked through so feel free to wail on her even as she’s shooting bullets

lavish gazelle
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the bow will get you further, you'll learn enemy attacks better with the sword

analog marlin
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then she does another atttack which are like bombs

rocky sigil
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The sword is better for new players because the special and attack have a knock back to keep enemies away from you

analog marlin
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hard to face em

high breach
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sword is harder because you'll definitely get hit way more than with bow

analog marlin
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like the purple ones on the ground

rocky sigil
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Reaper if you dodge diagonally to the purple circles it generally works out

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There’s also mobility mirror upgrades that make it easier

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The purple circles make like a Tetris t pattern and if you don’t dodge into another circle you’ll avoid the hit box

analog marlin
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ohk ill try this out

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thanks for the suggestion

rocky sigil
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Np. Meg is the tutorial boss she teaches you how bosses work in this game

analog marlin
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SHE IS THE TUTORISL BOSS ??

pulsar frigate
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not really

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she's just the first one

analog marlin
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btw how many tries did it take for u guys ??

rocky sigil
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It took me like 5-8 tries

placid tinsel
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So much new players here after release, awesome

rocky sigil
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She’s the first boss but she’s a tutorial because she sets the pace and patterns that all bosses are gonna use

analog marlin
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makes sense

rocky sigil
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Like you need to master meg before dealing with any other boss imo

prime crater
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I managed Meg (barely) after, like, 4 tries or so

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My boyfriend did her on on his third escape attempt and on the first try.

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Watching him just sunk my self-esteem below Tartarus.

rocky sigil
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Was he on your account? Darkness upgrades really help

prime crater
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It was my game all right, but I gave him a new save so he went from the very start.

rocky sigil
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Ah kk

prime crater
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Though in his words: “I have years of Bastion experience”

rocky sigil
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This game is a master of soft lock progression a new save is basically hard mode but darkness can turn the game into easy mode

restive spoke
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btw how many tries did it take for u guys ??
@analog marlin how many tries as in beating meg? I beat her on the third or fourth try

lavish gazelle
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is there unique dialogue for clearing on the first run of a file?

rocky sigil
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Yeah

analog marlin
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lol i thought i was a noob for not defeating her first try

restive spoke
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No wtf

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It’s a roguelike

analog marlin
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took 4 tries to see her for the first time lol

restive spoke
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Ur not meant to beat a boss the first time u beat them

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At least that’s what I like to think lol

analog marlin
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yeah i understood that later lol

restive spoke
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took 4 tries to see her for the first time lol
@analog marlin that’s normal don’t stress

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It’s a roguelike u die a lot

prime crater
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Nowadays I get so yeeted by Theseus.

analog marlin
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and its even more amazing everytime u die

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everyone has something new to say

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this game is really good

prime crater
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Once by pure luck I got past Thessie and Asterix.

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I have no idea how it happened though.

rocky sigil
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I know there unique dialogue on the first clear because the game replayed it on my first win in 1.0 to setup a callback in the future

analog marlin
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i dont know who they are lol

prime crater
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Elysium bosses.

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It’s the 3rd location and I hate it’s guts.

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I don’t think there is a Hades location with which I struggle more.

analog marlin
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who is the final boss ??

prime crater
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I have no idea.

analog marlin
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i guess it is gnna be his dad lol

prime crater
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In Early Access (story spoiler) ||the last one you got was Hades. I got to him once||

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BUT there is something past him now

analog marlin
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DAMN

prime crater
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And I have no idea what it is

rocky sigil
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Don’t spoil thing in here dude lol

prime crater
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Sorry?

analog marlin
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yeah sorry

rocky sigil
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Final boss is a huge spoiler too

analog marlin
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DONT TELL THEN

prime crater
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(No no no, do tell tactics)

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Or maybe just the tactics for the Labyrinth guys

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Some Advanced Hypnos Advice?

tepid vale
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Some Advanced Hypnos Advice?
@prime crater try dodging their attacks.

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and hitting them

prime crater
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Hmmm. Never thought of that.

tepid vale
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Hypnos has wonderful advice

prime crater
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Thanks. I’ll try.

analog marlin
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wanted to say the EXACT same thing lol

tepid vale
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every time

analog marlin
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@prime crater lol

prime crater
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Hypnos has wonderful advice
@tepid vale he has! And I love that he gives them to Meg too.

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Hypnos is great guy. Love him. He gets all the nectat.

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Nectar

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Nectat too, once I find it

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And a soft pillow

oblique mesa
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I just wanted to say, I was really hesitant about Hades at first. I've tried and hated every roguelike/roguelite I've ever played, but Supergiant's games are some of my favorites of all time. Gave Hades a shot yesterday and

I gotta say, it's the first Roguelike I've loved. Cheers to Supergiant. You continue to prove that you pretty much exclusively make quality games, and your reputation is sufficient that I'll buy whatever you sell regardless of genre, and I haven't been let down. Just thought I'd drop those thoughts here. Now if only I could make the clock tick faster so I could punch out from work and get back to playing Hades.

grand trout
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Dusa for me Tolpen

prime crater
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Dusa is a sweetheart

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I’d kill for Dusa. But outside, not on the mopped floor or — gods forbid — the carpet

potent merlin
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Any recommended beginner's guides/tips out there?

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"Things I wish I knew", etc.

prime crater
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Hoard keys to upgrade the mirror so you can get the thick skinned skill

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get the first death defiance for cheap cheap darkness.

pulsar frigate
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dash strikes are a subset of attacks, so boons that refer to "attack" also apply to your dash strike...

prime crater
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Give your first nectar to Skelly.

pulsar frigate
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...for everything except hammers, which differentiate between the terms "attack" and "dash strike"

prime crater
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Don't try to step in the glowy Asphodel spots.

potent merlin
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Yeah, any currency hoarding/spending tips are greatly appreciated. I'm bad with that stuff.

prime crater
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IDK if it is viable, but I prioritize colelcting keys over gems, gems over darkness. ditch coins, you don't keep those. Hoard nectar.

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keep your Titan's blood, it doesn't come easily after you get your first six.

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Then use it wisely.

true anvil
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I just got my first win after 40 runs shadeembarassed not the best records, but for someone who utterly hate Roguelike/lite game, I have to say I absolutely love this game. Can't wait to grind some heat

tepid vale
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hit enemies
dodge enemy attacks
practice

prime crater
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I suppose that buying the chambers upgrades from the Contractor are a priority over cosmetics for the House of HAdes.

tepid vale
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@true anvil which weapon did you clear with the first time?

true anvil
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The Shield, 2nd Aspect

potent merlin
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Thank you very much!!

true anvil
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Combo up with the Minotaur Rush

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Not the best on the 1.0 launch, but still very much useful if you can hit the power shot

spark grove
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Hey there I have a quick question:
I recently got a Boon which gave me +2❤️ per normal attack but also something about - 60% complete health

I don't remember from which god I got this so perhaps somebody else know 👀

pulsar frigate
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it’s the hammer upgrade for the sword

spark grove
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Ohhh OK thank you very much 💯 🔥 👍

eager igloo
tepid vale
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Itt means it will wear off after [2] encounters

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after the next one, it'll either say [1] or not have a number at all

eager igloo
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yeah makes sense. Also, i got a F god ability thing earlier, how do i get it in other runs? will i just find it as a gift from those gods from now?

tepid vale
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a call?
yeah, after you get your first scripted one from poseidon, you can get them from any god

north quail
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sad i can't send a screenshot, but
if you press B it will show you a menu with all your abilities you gained, if you click on them an arrow will appear
what does that mean?

tepid vale
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it pins the boon you clicked on to a sidebar on the boon screen
which lets you pin the five most important boons and take a screenshot of your build

north quail
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thanks!

prime crater
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What to do so that any escape attempt with a bow is not refined masochism?

lusty spade
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How do I meet Thanatos?

prime crater
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With a looooooot of patience.

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Escape 30-something was it for me, I think.

tepid vale
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What to do so that any escape attempt with a bow is not refined masochism?
@prime crater dash-strike
it's very mobile and your attacks charge faster. Also, if you have hunter dash and/or some good chaos buffs, it deals a lot more damage than normal attacks

lusty spade
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Escape.. 30? Hahaha. I can't even get past Elysium boss.

tepid vale
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if you get twin shot, your damage output is, of course, doubled

sly vigil
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What to do so that any escape attempt with a bow is not refined masochism?
Dash Strike, Hunter Dash, Deadly Strike, Twinshot, Point Blank Shot.

prime crater
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oh

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ok

sly vigil
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Assuming base bow.

north quail
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yay i escaped tartarus

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do i have to escape it again if i'll die?

analog marlin
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thats quicl

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quick

tepid vale
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do i have to escape it again if i'll die?
@north quail yes

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every run starts from the beginning

analog marlin
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WOW

tepid vale
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you'll get faster though

analog marlin
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bosses we have to beat again ??

sly vigil
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Yup. It's a roguelite

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This is part of the "permadeath" feature

analog marlin
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btw what should i unlock with the keys

sly vigil
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Weapons.

analog marlin
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the weapons or talent

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i have the spear and shield remaining

sly vigil
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Then talent

analog marlin
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and i have no good talent

sly vigil
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Unlocking all weapons opens up another upgrade path that's very helpful

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Although you should ooen the 2nd tier talent

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I take that back

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Open the 2nd tier talent

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Then weapons

analog marlin
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i only have the sword and bow'and didnt upgrade any talent

prime crater
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@prime crater dash-strike
it's very mobile and your attacks charge faster. Also, if you have hunter dash and/or some good chaos buffs, it deals a lot more damage than normal attacks
@tepid vale so, Dash-strike turned out to be wquite the Hypnos's advice for me :/

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||redacted|| bows

north quail
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the first boss was pretty easy

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i died once because i didn't know the patterns

analog marlin
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which weapon u used ??

north quail
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i don't remember how it's called, but it's a spear that i purchased in hades house

tepid vale
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spear

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its name is varatha but you can literally just call it "spear"

north quail
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cool

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it would be nice if there was a tooltip in the shop
it feels like a lottery because you've never seen an item like this before

tepid vale
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they're permanent unlocks and you want all of them

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so it doesn't really matter that much

ocean oasis
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мда уж....зашел

jolly hill
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whats the max level per aspect?

ocean oasis
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what are the conditions for completing the task " inhabitants of the deep"

lusty spade
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Fishing

rocky sigil
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@north quail when you walk up to the item in the shop, there's a glyph on the bottom next to the buy button to help you understand what it is. There aren't that many though once you've bought each item once you'll understand what it does. This isn't a spelunky type thing.

restive spoke
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what are the conditions for buying a fishing rod?

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It’s not showing up as a contractor renovation

candid nimbus
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Is reaching the final boss a condition? I can't recall tbh

lusty spade
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Upgraded desk perhaps?

silent trail
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When choosing the door rewards what's the difference between the Charon's Obol (gold??) And the bag with the golden skull?? Aren't both normal gold??

tepid vale
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the bag is a shop

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not a gold reward

silent trail
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Ahhhhhh that's how you find him lol. Thanks. I checked his profile but didn't see the icon.

shell elbow
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I have beaten the 2nd boss with all the weapons I have unlocked, so how do I get diamonds now? I saw one in a shop for 1000 coins, but thats way too expensive

rocky sigil
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It will become clear how to get more diamonds when you beat the game for the first time

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but also you can trade 10 elixirs/ambrosia whatever they're called to the broker in the lounge for a diamond

signal robin
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So is this really more of a "rouge-lite" than a "rogue-like"? I've died a few times but it seems like there's progression systems

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I really liked Bastion but couldn't get into Transistor, this feels a lot more like Bastion

pulsar frigate
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there are permanent upgrades/progression systems in place

candid nimbus
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Yeah this is roguelite

signal robin
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Can you change weapons?

rapid spruce
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Im not sure if there are any modern true "rogue-likes"

signal robin
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I picked up a bow and I'm still using it after dying

candid nimbus
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You can change in between runs

signal robin
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oh

candid nimbus
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Courtyard should show a bunch of weapons that you can change to before you try to escape again

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Well, need to unlock some

signal robin
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yeah i see now

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shame killing the training dummy doesn't count for the codex 😄

restive spoke
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For the mini boss of third biome

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Is it guaranteed to be bull?

nova star
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no

restive spoke
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For the bods of third biome, is it always two bosses together?

nova star
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yeah

restive spoke
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The champion and the bull?

nova star
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yeah

restive spoke
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Can’t remember his name it’s Theseus or something

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yeah
@nova star so it’s ALWAYS those two no matter what?

nova star
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it's always those two

restive spoke
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What if I didn’t get bull as my mini boss

obsidian locust
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You'll still get both of them

restive spoke
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Oh ok

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Does hydra boss have variations?

sly vigil
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yes

restive spoke
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The big head. Not the small ones. I know the small ones have variations

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Oh

sly vigil
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yes

obsidian locust
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the only difference being is that if you fought the bull in the miniboss biome, he'll start off with less health in the final battle

nova star
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the only difference is that if you battle asterius before you reach theseus he'll have less health during the boss fight

restive spoke
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the only difference being is that if you fought the bull in the miniboss biome, he'll start off with less health in the final battle
@obsidian locust oh ok

sly vigil
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the only difference is that if you battle asterius before he'll have less health during the boss fight

restive spoke
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If I battled him before boss fight does he have a different move set

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Or nah

lusty spade
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Yes, zag will comment on hydra looking different

nova star
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hydra has a bunch of variations

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like 4 i think?

restive spoke
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Even the big head?

obsidian locust
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I think 4?

tepid vale
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the only difference

obsidian locust
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yes

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Even the big head

restive spoke
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I’m assuming the main boss variation have different move sets?

nova star
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the main head changes from one run to another

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and yes

obsidian locust
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Yes

tepid vale
#

is that if you battle bullboi before you reach the boss

sly vigil
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yes

restive spoke
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That’s a lot of variations

obsidian locust
#

Lysol no...

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Shush

sly vigil
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yeah if you battle bullboi before the boss fight there is a slight difference that he will start with less health

tepid vale
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he has less

nova star
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he's guaranteed to have less

restive spoke
#

yeah if you battle bullboi before the boss fight there is a slight difference that he will start with less health
@sly vigil less as in like 50% less

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Or slightly

obsidian locust
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Stop this

sly vigil
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yes, he will has less health, which is the only difference

obsidian locust
lusty spade
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Speaking of bullboy and his buddy. Any tips? This is the first fight I've come across that seems kinda unfair.

restive spoke
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Just run around

obsidian locust
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bum rush both of them dusa

restive spoke
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4Head

candid nimbus
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Learn their patterns, watch out for the stray ax

sly vigil
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focus the bull

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listen to audio cue to dodge the spear

restive spoke
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Bull will chase u down right? The other guy only aims with his spear?

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Is that correct

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Does that dude actually fight u after bull dies?

lusty spade
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I find other guy a lot more difficult than bullboi

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yes he does 😦

tepid vale
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HELTH

restive spoke
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What does the other guy

candid nimbus
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There's an audio cue? wow I just time the marker

restive spoke
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Do

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There's an audio cue? wow I just time the marker
@candid nimbus is the marker ur talking about the pink cross hair on the character?

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Does that mean ur getting aimed at

obsidian locust
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yes

edgy dagger
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Hey! I’m new to this game, and I was wondering why it’s so hard to get blood for upgrades? The first boss never drops it anymore, same with the second boss never really dropping diamonds.

nova star
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they only drop once per weapon and per heat level

obsidian locust
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It resets after beating the final boss once

nova star
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you'll discover more ways to get titan blood and diamonds later in the game

tepid vale
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@restive spoke if you have a very high dps build focus on the nerd. Bullboi will come to you and you can just crush both of them

edgy dagger
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Okay, thank you guys so much for answering!! I was like “Am I getting cursed by RNG-sus?”

tepid vale
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otherwise, do what the other folks said

restive spoke
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So focus bull first

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Unless ur OP

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Got it

sly vigil
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contains boss fight spoiler

tepid vale
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lol

sly vigil
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(3rd biome)

tepid vale
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I love that clip

restive spoke
tepid vale
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I see HedonisticGiftedPanGrammarKing and I just

restive spoke
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How does the room with two boons work? U choose one and u gotta fight for the other one right? Do the enemies have buffs cause u pissed off a god?

tepid vale
sly vigil
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check out Vorime stream sometimes, he's a god

restive spoke
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And where can I find the list of buffs given to enemies

sly vigil
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the enemies aren't buffed

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but there are other obstacles

tepid vale
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How does the room with two boons work? U choose one and u gotta fight for the other one right? Do the enemies have buffs cause u pissed off a god?
each god has different effects. only athena really buffs your enemies; the rest just smite you with various abilities

obsidian locust
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Is that the clip of the memesis run?

sly vigil
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yeah

obsidian locust
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sub 5s heroes?

restive spoke
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Ah

obsidian locust
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Ahhh

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Good clip dusa

tepid vale
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HedonisticGiftedPanGrammarKing

restive spoke
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Are the smite the same thing Theseus uses in his second phase

sly vigil
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love that clip xD

tepid vale
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remember the name

sly vigil
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mostly, sure

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not exactly the same, but you get the idea

restive spoke
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How do I fight the butterfly ball

obsidian locust
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Smack it dusa

restive spoke
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How much damage does each butterfly do

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There seems to be a lot of em

tepid vale
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like 4 idk

sly vigil
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like 3 I think

obsidian locust
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2?

sly vigil
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maybe 4

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something small

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like my self esteem

tepid vale
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if you're constantly smacking the ball they'll all die on the way out

restive spoke
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What the hell thats a lot of damage

tepid vale
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like my self esteem
says the person who didn't completely remove all mention of Hades from their profile

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What the hell thats a lot of damage
not if you don't get hit because you're constantly smacking the ball dusa

candid nimbus
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I facetank everything, only numbers that surprise me are... well specific big numbers.

tepid vale
#

honestly, none of the spawns in that fight matter except for the greatshield
don't let the greatshield spawn, and you're good

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spend the rest of your time smacking the ball

leaden whale
#

Hey, I got a question, what is the best aspect for Malphon?

sly vigil
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all of them

candid nimbus
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Whichever one you vibe with the best

sly vigil
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like seriously, there is no best aspect, only favorite one. mine is Demeter, but that's personal preference.

restive spoke
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It’s been one day of something?

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Wiki is still not updated

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Disappointed

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like seriously, there is no best aspect, only favorite one. mine is Demeter, but that's personal preference.
@sly vigil does Demeter actually up ur dps

obsidian locust
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yes

restive spoke
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Like the fact that ur not using special for 12 strikes

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yes
@obsidian locust does it give u higher dps than talos

tropic umbra
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with the right boons, it's very powerful.

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I did a run with Demeter yesterday, I got the crit chance boon on special, and enemies were melting, it's even stronger if you get an attack speed up boon from Hermes

restive spoke
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with the right boons, it's very powerful.
@tropic umbra I’m assuming ur aiming for attack speed with Demeter? Which god has attack speed boon

sly vigil
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demeter is about the highest DPS fist

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so yeah

tropic umbra
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@restive spoke Hermes 🙂

restive spoke
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demeter is about the highest DPS fist
@sly vigil damn higher than talos?

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I thought the damage buff with talos would do something

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@restive spoke Hermes 🙂
@tropic umbra ty

sly vigil
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talos is a bit of a meme aspect

restive spoke
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How so

sly vigil
#

the damage boost is single target

restive spoke
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Ah

sly vigil
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most things die too fast anyway

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so you can't make use of the bonus damage

restive spoke
#

Does using special before the charge restarts the counter

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With Demeter

sly vigil
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no

tropic umbra
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Nop

restive spoke
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Wait what dang ok

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That’s better than what I thought

obsidian locust
#

DUDE

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SPOILERS

candid nimbus
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Defeating who?

tropic umbra
#

And you don't have to hit the 12 hits back to back, you can take a pause.

obsidian locust
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@arctic solar final boss is spoilers

sly vigil
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please spoiler tag that

obsidian locust
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Please tag it

candid nimbus
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The easiest way to defeat Hades is to call him out for his shennanigans as Zag

restive spoke
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And you don't have to hit the 12 hits back to back, you can take a pause.
@tropic umbra is the charge still continues even if u special when charging?

sly vigil
candid nimbus
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He just sulks on his desk

tropic umbra
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Yep

arctic solar
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thanks

obsidian locust
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No problemo

sly vigil
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cause that's not exactly "new" player 😄

restive spoke
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That’s nice

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So it’s straight up a special dps buff

tropic umbra
#

You can do like 5 hits - special - 5 hits - special - 2 hits - charged special

restive spoke
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DANG

tropic umbra
#

And with 1.0 its more easy to know when you got your 12 hits in

restive spoke
#

Demeter is not the last aspect right

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There’s a hidden one for fist?

sly vigil
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every weapon has a hidden one

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so yes

tepid vale
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there's a big sneeky aspect

sly vigil
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and no Demeter is 3rd

restive spoke
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Oh every weapon has one?

candid nimbus
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So I heard

tepid vale
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you have to do the thing, and then get the item, and then do some stuff before you can get them

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and the other thing
and talk to the dude

sly vigil
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almost like they are called "hidden" for a reason thanthink

lusty spade
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just had doom damage pop all 5 mini hydra heads at once, that was so satisfying

tropic umbra
#

Doom is pretty good, and it got buffed in 1.0

obsidian locust
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Ares got buffed like mad during 1.0

silent trail
#

Soo... I know there's that joke about writing down which weapons you beat the bosses with to get the Blood Relic... but how do you actually know...

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Because I did not write it down. :(

candid nimbus
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That's a thing?

sly vigil
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That's a thing?

obsidian locust
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Blood relic?

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Did we miss an update?

sly vigil
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TB

lusty spade
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Titan Blood

sly vigil
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aka Tuberculosis

obsidian locust
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OH

silent trail
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Titan Blood, yeah sorry

obsidian locust
#

Oh yeah, Skelly makes that joke doesn't he?

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Don't worry about it. Zag will make a list soon

analog marlin
#

should i buy spear of or get new talent ??

tropic umbra
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If you look at the aspects, you can see how far you went in term of heat, if you are in the post game you can see which boss you killed with a weapon in the post-game difficulty adjustment menu.

sly vigil
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did you unlock tier 2 talent?

wild ibex
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Is there a way to get more after you get the 6 from the furies?

silent trail
#

I literally JUST got the Aspect screen after unlocking the last weapon. Just a few minutes ago

tropic umbra
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@wild ibex There is one other way without changing the difficulties, but its a bit of a spoiler.

obsidian locust
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After beating the final boss, the bounties will reset

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It'll be explained in-game so don't worry squirtnya

lusty spade
#

Daedalus Kick for fists is so nice

candid nimbus
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Doesn't ||broker shade and prophecies have?||

obsidian locust
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I'm sorry what?

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You mean TB?

wild ibex
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Ok thanks I'm still stuck on the 3rd area boss and I'm exploring different ways to beat them

obsidian locust
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Good luck! squirtnya

tropic umbra
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@wild ibex If you want a tip, just DM me 🙂

lusty spade
#

Breaching Cross, gotta good feeling about this run. I'm gonna beat bullboi and friend.

obsidian locust
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All the best squirtnya

silent trail
#

Also, does the story evolve more? I know it's a rogue like but pyre had such an incredible story with huge choices. totally fine if not I'm just setting expectations of yes and no

obsidian locust
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Yes

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Story does evolve

silent trail
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Cool that's enough for me

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<3

obsidian locust
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I still have yet to get the proper ending so it'll take a while

tropic umbra
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Yes! Each time you die, make sure to talk to everyone in the House of Hades, you'll learn a lot about what is going on and the people you meet.

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Just don't expect big choices, but you still have some agency on which relationships to improve.

silent trail
#

What's the difference between a boons Rarity and just leveling it? Both just seem to up the numbers.

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Choosing between some meals and never noticed the difference before

obsidian locust
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Rarity usually scales higher than leveling it up

wicked holly
#

I'm actually not 100% on this, but I think all things equal, increasing a Rarity (e.g. going from Level 1 Rare to Level 1 Epic) gives a bigger boost than going from Level 1 Rare to Level 2 Rare

obsidian locust
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Nah you're pretty on point with that

wicked holly
#

And then the bonus from going from Level 1 Epic to Level 2 Epic > bonus from going from Level 1 Rare to Level 2 Rare

obsidian locust
#

However some boons won't make much of a difference in rarity

silent trail
#

Ah okay. So just different types of scaling? I'm guessing you can level AND up rarity to big boost it then

wicked holly
#

yep

obsidian locust
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Yes

tropic umbra
#

best way I could describe it is that rarity = potencial, level = strenght. So the higher the rarity it is, the bigger then numbers can get when you level it up.

wicked holly
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spoilering a bit since this is new-players channel, but a certain figure in Asphodel ||gives you options to upgrade your boons; the reason why she only offers +2 Rarity upgrade versus +4 levels upgrade is something to consider in terms of power level of rarity/levels of boons...||

silent trail
#

Thanks not used to having so many questions normally I love to go blind but I've never really done a rogue like before

tropic umbra
#

Hey its totally fine 🙂

obsidian locust
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It's completely chill dude. We're here to help squirtnya

candid nimbus
#

That's fine, the underworld is a huge place full of tons of scary and colorful shades

silent trail
#

I actually bought the game the day it went on sale on epic to support super giant, but made myself not play it until 1.0 release so I could enjoy their work they way they wanted it to be

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It was a struggle to resist haha glad to be diving in now

candid nimbus
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Welcome to the underworld shadesmile

tropic umbra
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Man, you are in for a treat.

silent trail
#

Just hoping they updated the shipping on their website soon. I've had a frame and spot on the wall for hades on launch but shipping is currently 60 bucks to Texas! Damn you covid

candid nimbus
#

Woah what

tropic umbra
#

yikes.

candid nimbus
#

A t-shirt and bandana I bought was like normal shipping

tropic umbra
#

I mean, USPS is a mess right now right? (I'm canadian)

candid nimbus
#

Oh

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Hmmm

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Dunno

silent trail
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3 posters was 60 bucks with only an express 1 day option. Couldn't pick anything else sadly. I sent them an email to ask

candid nimbus
#

Darn covid

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I should buy a poster or 2

silent trail
#

If you look it up and are in the usa shoot me a message, curious if you only have the one shipping option too or if it's a Texas thing? No clue

candid nimbus
#

Lemme look

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Looks good to me

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$9 priority normie, $36 1 day to Ames iowa

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Lemme try 3 posters

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Might be a size thing too

silent trail
#

Yeah if for some reason 3 different orders works better for them I could do that. Maybe the posters came from different warehouses. I had a hades one, pyre had a new print for Bastion I was missing

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Maybe the prints (Smaller than poster) was another warehouse

candid nimbus
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Nope 3 posters only $13 normie. $47 1 day

silent trail
#

Mind throwing on a bastion art print and checking? Sorry to go so off topic everyone lol

candid nimbus
#

Did so just now, cold war kid

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$16 and $52 (3 postes and 1 print) for normie and 1 day

silent trail
#

Damn must be Texas. Appreciate it!!

candid nimbus
#

Texas get hit by something?

silent trail
#

No more than anyone else

candid nimbus
#

Tried a Midland, Texas address same shipping.

rough void
#

Um... My apologise, but I have a a very annoying question. How can I meet Thanatos?

candid nimbus
#

He just randomly spawns

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not annoying at all!

#

Any questions you have just ask (as long as spoiler rules are kept we good!)

tropic umbra
#

Yeah he'll just appear sometimes when you enter a room. And when he does, he usually is in the halls when you finish your run too.

candid nimbus
#

Might be run based as to when he starts doing that from a new save

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Just gotta keep going till he decides to say hi

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Oh, as in talk and nectar him... in house of hades he usually sits in the left hall

rough void
#

But wiki says, that he can appear after you lost some heal in the run

candid nimbus
#

Still a chance though

#

RNG is best friend

polar willow
#

Hi all! Does anyone have Hades on Switch? I have a question that is specific to that platform...

lusty spade
#

I'm playing on Switch, yes.

rough void
#

RNG is best friend
@candid nimbus what is RNG?

sly vigil
#

Randomness

tropic umbra
#

Random Number Generator, it's how games do randomness.

rough void
#

Ok. Got it

sly vigil
#

you can substitute RNG with Randomness and still retain most of the meaning.

#

it's basically a short hand by now

polar willow
#

Ah, great! I was just wondering -- what are the controls like? Can you use the d-pad for most things, or do you have to use the left analog stick? (Eg, for movement.)

sly vigil
#

hmm. dpad would be a bit of a challenge

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it can be done but not great. although you can always use mkb

polar willow
#

(I ask because the Switch is notorious for 'joycon drift', and so I mainly try to use the d-pad in games I play.)

rough void
#

Jeez. It takes forever to translate all the punchnotes

sly vigil
#

oh for the Switch? than I have no idea, don't own one 😄

lusty spade
#

You actually can use the d-pad it seems. Just tested it out.

polar willow
#

That is wonderful news Asp, thanks!

restive spoke
#

Yea u can use d pad

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But why

#

Why wouldn’t u use 360 movement lol

polar willow
#

Ah, explained above! It's to do with joycon drift

restive spoke
#

Ah that sucks

#

Wait actually

#

I think both control are active at the same time

tepid vale
#

I bound the d-pad to actual controls instead

restive spoke
#

So if ur joycon is drifting

#

Ur character would still drift

#

I thiiiiiink

tepid vale
#

but if you leave them as updownleftright
it works

polar willow
#

Thankfully my current joycon doesn't drift, haha. I try to avoid using it to stop putting wear on it though, so I rely on the d-pad unless the game makes the analog stick mandatory.

#

(My first joycon has an awful drift.)

shell elbow
#

i keep on dying to what i think is the final boss. i can get past phase 1 fine, but phase 2 kicks my ass, even when i went in with full health and 3 revives. any tips for it? also, sometimes when it attacks me i get a weird effect on my screen and text pops up saying boiling blood. what is that?

sinful trail
#

so anyone have any guess on how many hours I have to sink into this game to get my first clear??? Background: I just got the game. have put just under 3 hours into it now...Have done no research on any builds/strats or anything... Id say im a pretty "good" video game player...Just curious is anyone has any estimated time so i can see if im at least on par with new players

candid nimbus
#

Varies from player to player

tepid vale
#

@sinful trail nope. there's too much variance to even begin to guess

candid nimbus
#

I personally took... 16hours? 32 runish dunno

tepid vale
#

if you're just generally good at games it should be pretty quick though

sinful trail
#

ok thanks guys!!

candid nimbus
#

My playstyle is facetank everything so it'll probably be easier for you

sinful trail
#

l00l fair enough.

tropic umbra
#

My roommate finished it for the first time maybe around 14-16hrs I think.

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But there's tons of stuff to do post game, I'm at 100+ hours played and I'm still not done.

candid nimbus
#

I'm at 190 hours still not done

tepid vale
#

I'm 600 hours not done

leaden whale
#

At Chaos, should I choose 87% more gemstones and darkness or 46% more damage from space + left mouse click?

#

Or is the 87% more gems and darkness waste of time

candid nimbus
#

Depends on your needs

#

It's nice for farms

sly vigil
#

18 hours and 40th try for me.

leaden whale
#

I guess I'll take more damage, seems like I'm getting closer to top with this build

candid nimbus
#

Good luck!

tropic umbra
#

Early game I'd go for the 87% but thats up to you

#

if it a good run and you want to go further, 46% is pretty good.

restive spoke
#

Yooooo does anyone have a hades boss guide

#

For movesets and strategies

candid nimbus
#

Dunno if anything has been posted for all the bosses tbh

tepid vale
#

boss strats aren't collected in any one work

#

but I can make (a slightly shoddy, opinionated) one rq if you want

restive spoke
#

Yes pls

#

Specifically biome 3 and last boss, but anything is appreciated, heavily

wanton atlas
#

guys, for what is the ambrosia in the 1.0? because ||the gift for the npc now is the nectar||

candid nimbus
#

Gifts still

leaden whale
#

|| Man I killed Hades and died instantly on phase 2 wtf ||

candid nimbus
#

Spoilers. You can't fight Hades.

#

We can only backtalk

#

(Edit message pls)

tepid vale
#

@leaden whale ^

leaden whale
#

Should I trade my ambrosia for titan blood or keep onto it?

tepid vale
#

keep it

#

once you start using ambrosia you will use a lot

wide shore
#

thx

lyric sundial
#

would dark forsight be better than olimpian favor?

pulsar frigate
#

maybe, that rarity bonus helps quite a bit

wicked holly
#

Personal preference

pulsar frigate
#

depends on whether you want more boons or less, but generally better quality boons

wicked holly
#

I prefer Olympian Favor since getting a Rare Boon > Getting a Common Boon, and it's like a 40% increase at max. Plus, you're limited on the number of Hammers you can get per run anyways.

lyric sundial
#

makes sense

#

im also still trying to grind out more darkness and such so i guess having less of those is not good

pulsar frigate
#

of course, there's also more money, poms, and hearts from using dark foresight

#

so you can buy more, upgrade more, and get more hp (and more boons that are usually common)

wicked holly
#

Also, Dark Foresight only gives +10% chance which feels low

pulsar frigate
#

pretty sure it got buffed this update

wicked holly
#

oh if it did then I'll have to double check

#

maybe switch it up and see if I notice anything different

rocky sigil
#

I think it’s a 20 percent increase. Also this is an advanced mechanic but the game has rubber banding on silver/gold rewards. Every time you get a gold reward the chances of getting a silver reward goes up significantly until it’s guaranteed

#

It also does nothing on the last area that place does not have silver rewards

lyric sundial
#

also the new uh frost ladys cast can be upgrades to really powerful

rocky sigil
#

Yep frost cast is an investment but can be quite good later

#

Anything that does guaranteed damage is good and the frost cast can become that

candid nimbus
#

It also does work without me trying very hard shadesmile

eternal yarrow
#

is this where I ask questions about gameplay?

tropic umbra
#

yes

#

!

eternal yarrow
#

So uh, I unlocked the green skills in the mirror, is it either or for each one?

tropic umbra
#

either

#

you chose between the normal one or the green one

eternal yarrow
#

got it, thanks

lyric sundial
#

for each skill

tropic umbra
#

^ this

eternal yarrow
#

I should prioritize using keys on the mirror instead of weapons right?

tropic umbra
#

if you like the sword enough, sure 🙂

eternal yarrow
#

I have the first 4

#

but maybe it''s better to spend 10 on the mirror instead of the 5th weapon

tropic umbra
#

Oh, yeah go straight in the mirror imo, you have enough weapon diversity to have fun for a while

split mountain
#

Dang, what is it that causes me not to be able to use any moves at all for ages?

tropic umbra
#

but a thing to consider, you only can get the titan blood once per weapon per difficulty levels

normal flax
#

are you in chains @split mountain ? if so it might be an enemy

tropic umbra
#

Ikari, do you get grabed by the hand enemies?

split mountain
#

I can still run around

#

Didn't see any hand or chains this time (meg fight)

#

Maybe I missed em tho

tropic umbra
#

Are you using the spear?

split mountain
#

No, sword

normal flax
#

you can run around but not attack? Only thing I can think of is spear throw or shield throw maybe

tropic umbra
#

Yeah same, thats very weird

split mountain
#

I just began the game it's happened twice

#

I can't even dash

tropic umbra
#

I never had that happen to me before tbh

split mountain
#

Sucks for me I guess lol

normal flax
#

maybe report it ( f10 in game)

split mountain
#

When I look at my boons I can highlight some, they get a little marker. Why?

normal flax
#

yeah I've never had that happen - are you using a weird controller?

split mountain
#

Nintendo switch

tropic umbra
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ohh could it be a chaos boon?

normal flax
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Oh you're on switch? or on PC using switch?

split mountain
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On switch

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Undocked

normal flax
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don't think chaos boon stops you from doing anything, just dis incentivizes

split mountain
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Can I still report

tropic umbra
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yeah that's true.

normal flax
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yeah, but not in game then - think the #h1-tech-support channel should be the spot to post

tropic umbra
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on switch I would maybe try playing an other game

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maybe your joycons are being wonky

normal flax
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that's a good point, maybe just the left joystick is working but the other button contacts are bad

tropic umbra
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I had a joycon once that just stopped detecting some button presses

split mountain
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I'll reset everything

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Thanks guys

normal flax
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hope it works out!

split mountain
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I had another q about boon highlighting

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What does it mean to put a marker on one in their menu

normal flax
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not sure what the boon highlighting is, don't think it does anything though? Maybe it's for screenshotting/highlighting specific boons

tidal tiger
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I think it's just for keeping track

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Or displaying a list of boons for screenshots

split mountain
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Hmm

tidal tiger
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Like "here are the boons that contributed majorly to my progress"

normal flax
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agreed, that's the only thing I can think of

tropic umbra
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or "hey guys, what should I aim for next"

split mountain
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Ok, cheers

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Can't believe how good this game is

tropic umbra
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It's easily one of my favorite games 🙂

winter perch
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How do I set the aspect for my weapons?

sly vigil
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walk to the weapon

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hit the interact weapon (default E on mkb or RB on pad)

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pick your aspect

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done

winter perch
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hmm guess i haven't unlocked them yet, i just pick up the weapon

normal flax
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yeah you get aspects a bit later in the game

brave fog
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how do you get access to new weapons if you start fresh? Back in like April I had to beat the game to get any new weapons/aspects.

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Is that still the same requirement?

winter perch
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I was able to unlock some with keys

normal flax
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weapons you find basically every run until you have all of them and you unlock w keys

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weapon aspects are another story

wraith saffron
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Very new player here, so I started last night, and when I was creating a save slot I wasn’t paying attention that much, so I clicked the first slot

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But then I saw something about a hard mode, and I’m not sure if I clicked it pr not

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How will I know if I’m in hard mode?

normal flax
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@wraith saffron it should say when you're picking the save file (alternatively in new runs check what 'heat' you're on/the modifiers you have on)

wraith saffron
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Alright thanks I’ll keep that in mind (though right now I’m not sure what you’re referring too 😅)

normal flax
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yeah below "last played" it'll say hell mode on the save file if it's enable

wraith saffron
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No “hell mode” or anything like that in my save. I guess I’m not in hell mode then. Thanks so much for the help!

tidal cloak
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new update looks lit

meager flax
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Is getting to elysium for the first time a reasonable place to be after 5ish hours of gameplay?

rapid spruce
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Dont worry about where youre "supposed" to be

pastel cipher
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take things at your own pace bittie3

indigo hamlet
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Is there a way to buy keys with purple cristals?

normal flax
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@indigo hamlet not directly I believe - 'darkness' is a resource that mostly can't be exchanged for other resources, except for the occasional 'daily trade' (which resets every run)

lusty spade
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So I shouldn't be concerning myself with House Decor and Favours until I'm pretty squarely in post-game right?

indigo hamlet
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The best way to get keys is then just pick dors that give me keys

lusty spade
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Material rewards seem a little light at present for any of this to be feasible

normal flax
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up to you @lusty spade ! Though a lot of the cosmetics cost a lot of gems and I wouldn't worry about grinding for them

lusty spade
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I want a pretty house of hades :<

midnight shore
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i've got about 10-12 hours in the game through early access and really enjoyed and am about to start up a new run for 1.0. Does it make more sense to just jump into Hell Mode right away?

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if i start a new save i assume its not possible to convert it to Hell Mode later on after i beat it? I figure i'll be grinding for blood and diamonds and stuff anyways regardless so I imagine its more time efficient to just start in Hell mode right?

vocal nymph
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hell mode doesn't have anything new story wise iirc, it's just harder

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most people don't end up using it

sly vigil
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@midnight shore Hell Mode in general is not worth it. If we are talking long term, Hell Mode offers one thing over Normal Mode - you don't have Mercy Invulnerability (the brief i-frames that you get after receiving heavy damage). So if you want to squeeze every bit of difficulty out of the game, go for it. Although trust me, no one has ever completed the highest difficulty level of the game even on Normal Mode (assuming no routing).

midnight shore
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I'm mainly just concerned about getting mats for aspects and such

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I recall in my early access run, I had a lot of trouble finding blood after killing the furies a few times

leaden whale
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I just bought the game and I'm gonna play it later, any tips

lusty spade
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Don't get discouraged

pastel cipher
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have fun, take things at your own pace

midnight shore
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@sly vigil I thought in hellmode I could use the heat to help me with getting the mats

normal flax
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make friends w people

rapid spruce
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game is hard at first but you unlocks things even from bad runs

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just keep playing

leaden whale
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Aight, I'll be back once I actually start playing

rapid spruce
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patience is a virtue

midnight shore
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So there's no benefit to hellmode then?

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does anyone have any tips on what are some ways to get blood needed for weapon aspects then?

sly vigil
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you don't get more resources on Hell Mode

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In fact, you have to work harder to get them on Hell Mode.

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because the base difficulty is higher

midnight shore
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okay so once i've gotten all the blood i can get through beating the first boss with each wpn, is there anotther way to get more blood?

lavish gazelle
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Hell Mode is largely vestigial at this point, it used to have much bigger differences but now it's mostly just normal but it starts at 5 heat

sly vigil
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Yes. After the boss, you will see a mechanics to get more blood.

midnight shore
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so i'm fine with just starting normal and having that be my "main" save file

queen fiber
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how would i use athena's boons? i have holy shield but it doesn't seem like the most useful thing bc you have to take damage for it to do anything :0

midnight shore
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and if i get so good at it its easy i can start over in heat

sly vigil
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yes. essentially

midnight shore
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@sly vigil you mean the final boss?

sly vigil
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yup

midnight shore
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okay

sly vigil
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I think it will all make sense once you beat the final boss once.

midnight shore
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so i'll just stick with my normal save file then

sly vigil
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yeah, hell mode is generally not worth it. I would not suggest that as a first time experience.

midnight shore
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what keepsakes you guys recommend? I currently have 2 death defiance so i dont really feel the need to bring the tooth anymore, i'll sometimes swap to the tooth after second boss if i've lost my death defiance

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should i bring a gods keepsake to target a certain build?

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i've been doing really well targeting Athena with the bow in my last few runs

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deflection and crit on the bow special has been really nice

sly vigil
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the "meta" is God/God/Acorn/Acorn

rapid spruce
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Ive just been levelling them all in order

sly vigil
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although deviations is totally normal

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you need to adapt

midnight shore
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you can have multiple keepsakes?

sly vigil
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you can swap out between biomes

midnight shore
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or you mean swap from god to god after the boss?

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yeah sorry i see

sly vigil
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yeah

midnight shore
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i've only got 10hrs in the game but think i have a decent grasp on the mechanics so wasnt too sure if this channel or #h1-builds-and-combat is better suited for my questions

rapid spruce
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Athena is pretty solid with anything IMO

midnight shore
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which god is crit based again?

rapid spruce
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Artemis

midnight shore
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so when you want to actually go for a build, you basically start with a god keepsake (like athena) and then you hope RNG gives you the skill you want

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and you just keep targeting that god in your run and go with centaur hearts/keys/darkness/etc if they're not present as an option?

rapid spruce
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you can be somewhat selective in your boons during a run

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even without a keepsake

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usually I dont pre-plan a build before a run

midnight shore
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i havent been at all, just so i can experience them all naturally

rapid spruce
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I just go with the flow until Im like hey Im going Zeus/whatever rn

midnight shore
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but its pretty clear that there are going to be some synergies that work really well

rapid spruce
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certain weapons favor certain builds as you can imagine

midnight shore
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i tend to make it farther when i have boons that compliment each other, instead of a complete hodgepodge of stuff

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oh one more question i have is regarding the nectars

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once i give one nectar to each of the gods i see, what the subsequent hearts in the codex mean?

pulsar frigate
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you can give more nectar to them!

midnight shore
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i know the first heart with the bow is for the keepsake

rapid spruce
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yup

midnight shore
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i remember skelly telling me that usually you'll get nothing for it but sometimes you will

rapid spruce
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and then more will deepen your relationship with that character

pulsar frigate
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it unlocks dialogue and is one of the ways to get more story events

midnight shore
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more lore/dialogue with the character is good enough for me

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is there a limit? like will all the hearts fill up when you've giiven them all you can?

rapid spruce
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I have yet to hit the max with any character yet though

pulsar frigate
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yep, there's a cap

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i'd rather you experience how to get to that cap on your own, but it goes quite deep

midnight shore
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yeah i dont intend on looking up a guide, im more than happy letting that glorious voice acting do its thing 😛

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if its possible to answer this question without spoilers, is there an endgame in this? like challenge runs or something?

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or is the endgame just diving deeper into the dialogue/lore/etc with the different characters? (which im perfectly fine with)

pulsar frigate
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there's a difficulty system that gets you quite far after the "main story", in terms of gameplay

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but also quite a bunch of character stuff that you probably won't complete in the space of the main story, which you can also pursue

midnight shore
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cool

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thx again, time for me to jump in!

fickle grail
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||I cannot for the life of me ever win with Twin Fists; the issue is I take too much damage and the AOE of the special is too low (often ends up going in the wrong direction too). Help!||

lusty spade
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Fists are the only thing I can win with haha

sly vigil
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just dash a lot

rocky sigil
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First have a high rate of attack. Abuse that with Zeus or Dionysus, Demeter, or Artemis

rapid spruce
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go for zeus its busted

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or demeter as said

sly vigil
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Divine Strike also works

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for safety

thick lynx
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hi new player here, from what i can tell boons have diminishing returns, so if you get pomegranate it's better to try to keep the level even on your boons given that theyre useful boons?

rapid spruce
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depends

sly vigil
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normally you want your main damage boon to say 2-3

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anything beyond that can go anywhere, really

normal flax
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I'd generally agree with that - the first 2 or 3 levels are nice but then it's barely noticable

rapid spruce
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but sometimes levelling say divine dash makes no sense

normal flax
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yeah I never end up leveling the dashes

rocky sigil
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Depends on what you’re using if you never use the fast don’t level it up

pulsar frigate
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I'd generally agree with that - the first 2 or 3 levels are nice but then it's barely noticable
this applies to everything except hangover, blade rifts, and crystal beam

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levels are always nice to those, because they can only ever go up "1-2 damage" at a time

normal flax
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dozens of hours and that never occurred to me lol, nice

pulsar frigate
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(except it's never just 1 to 2 damage, because of the way those effects work. each level has way more value to these types of effects)

thick lynx
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okie thanks!

vocal lake
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So uh, quick question. Is there any actual, tangible benefit to forming a bond with someone on a Keepsake, or is it just that you get a little picture of them on it?

rapid spruce
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there is

normal flax
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wait there is? For all of them or are you talking about ||companions||?

vocal lake
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I'm not talking about those, since they're their own thing.

rapid spruce
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oh

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then I have no idea

vocal lake
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And not everyone has one of those.

sudden mason
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This game is epic

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bottom text

normal flax
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AFAIK the only thing you get from relationships is ||keepsakes, sometimes companions, and of course warm fuzzy feelings||

vocal lake
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Honestly that feels like a missed opportunity to not have some kind of second benefit to a keepsake for maxing out/forming a bond.

normal flax
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I guess also some ||fated prophecies||?

rapid spruce
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the keepsakes are already good

sudden mason
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Getting married with Skully AYAYAblush

rapid spruce
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no need to add extra benefit

wicked holly
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For all intents and purposes since this is #h1-for-new-players, getting the little chibi icon (forming a bond) serves no purpose except for getting a Cthonic Companion (only a select few) plus warm and fuzzy friendship feelings...

normal flax
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I see where you're coming from but I think only some kind of cosmetic should be unlocked (though it would be cool to get some special/exclusive decorations)

rapid spruce
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thatd be neat

normal flax
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getting to max can take a while so dont think there should be actual gameplay related stuff that far, but I'm pretty happy w what we have right now lol

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though I also wouldn't say no to a +10% rare or better boon or something of the like...

meager flax
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So, to my current knowledge you only get 6 titan blood in total. Is it a bad idea to trade it in the lounge?

candid nimbus
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I wouldn't recommend it personally

normal flax
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Pelton ||you can get more||

calm vessel
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I'm looking at my past runs in the admin, what do some of these titles mean? ||Favored & Envied|| ||Olympus Caller||
There's also ||Tenth's time the Charm|| for my tenth win so im guessing these are unique things I did for this run

candid nimbus
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Yeah

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Wiki Run Clear Messages. ||Favored & Envied Olympus Caller is 2 tests of the gods apparently?||

lusty spade
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So I've got a few titan bloods but I have no idea where I should use them.

main coral
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you'll unlock a place to spend them after you unlock all the weapons

cold garnet
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So I've got a few titan bloods but I have no idea where I should use them.
@lusty spade unlock cool aspect

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start with chaos

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chiron

vocal lake
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Honestly it depends on your preferred weapon.

lusty spade
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Oh I know about the aspects, I meant I don't really have any idea what aspects I should be going for.

cold garnet
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demeter

vocal lake
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If you like shields, Chaos is good, yes.

lusty spade
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I'm comfortable with all weapons except bow and shield. I've cleared with Sword and Fist

vocal lake
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Chiron basically turned bow from a meh weapon into a main weapon for me.

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Chiron's gimmick is when you hit someone with your primary, your secondary now seeks them out

cold garnet
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chaos is the most easy aspect ever although its got neft so bad but its still good tho

main coral
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yeah, just try them all out and see which one you like

cold garnet
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if you like fist demeter is good

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12 punch and your special become multiple hit

vocal lake
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You can usually get about three secondary homing attacks off after one hit with primary.

lusty spade
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Well, I like fist most with the kick special

vocal lake
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Assuming you get lucky and get the consecutive hits bonus from hammer, and the more shots one? Oh baby.

cold garnet
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for me all fists, rail, sword aspect are good

vocal lake
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You become the sniper from heck.

lusty spade
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My playstyle is mostly spamming dodge and buffed specials

cold garnet
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so chiron is goood for you man

vocal lake
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I usually use special as an opener or ender after a normal attack string on fist.

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If you like special spam, you'll LOVE chiron, assuming you like ranged combat.

cold garnet
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1 atk and all the special follow the foe that got atked

vocal lake
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Normal shot, spam 3 special shots, repeat.

lusty spade
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Well on sword I typically dash strike into special

cold garnet
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nemesis and pressure point

lusty spade
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How's Chiron damage wise? Bow seemed kinda slow when I used it.

cold garnet
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easy crit special

vocal lake
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@lusty spade FAR superior to normal form.

vocal nymph
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It depends who you ask

vocal lake
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Because your primary is used as a lock-on tag for your secondary, as all shots will now seek whatever you just shot.

main coral
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with bow, it's all about dash attack + hitting that power shot every time

vocal nymph
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I know a decent amount of people who stan zag bow

vocal lake
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Assuming you get a good stacking effect on your secondary, it can be pretty sick.

cold garnet
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chiron isnt slow at all. When you get hermes special speed buff and hammer for more special arrow. It will create a destroyer

vocal lake
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I got to the point where I was keeping 5 stacks of Hangover on nonstop, on top of the consecutive hit bonus. I was doing like, nearly 300 per secondary fire.

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Plus the hangover DOT.

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And the initial primary hit + Doom

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Plus I got a sub 30 minute run done (just a little over 28) using Chiron. My new personal best.

lusty spade
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You know I haven't really used hangover at all, I used Doom on my first clear. Second clear with sword I only had crystal beam as a DoT sorta thing

vocal lake
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Hangover works best on fast weapons that can upkeep the stacks.

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IE, you wouldn't want it on the bow's primary slot.

cold garnet
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i maxed out all the weapon and figured out for the newbie chaos, chiron and nemesis is easiest to master

lusty spade
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Oh actually I use a lot of deflect now that I think about it

vocal lake
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I always try to go for Deflect Dash whenever possible.

cold garnet
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Demeter talos is good but you need to understand the game first

vocal lake
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It's just too good for 'offensive' defense.

cold garnet
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divide dash is most op and balance

restive spoke
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Does deflect dash do damage

cold garnet
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yes it does

vocal lake
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Very little on contact, but it can reflect back projectiles too.

restive spoke
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Can u only deflect projectiles or can u deflect damage onto enemies

vocal lake
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You do contact damage with Divine Dash, but it's very little.

restive spoke
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Can u deflect an attack from enemies

vocal lake
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The big damage is from reflecting projectiles back at people.

cold garnet
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block the damage and deflet the projectiles

vocal lake
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You can deflect melee, but it won't do any extra damage.

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It just stops the attack.

restive spoke
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Ah I see

cold garnet
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got 250% deflect damage and all i need is deflect dad projectiles

restive spoke
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Might take Athena dash over Zeus dash now tbh

lusty spade
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I had some really nice buffs on my sword, special was hitting for 300 per hit

vocal lake
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Oh man, bonus deflect damage is hilarious if you get it in the Witch's Circle miniboss.

restive spoke
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Projectiles keep screwing me up

cold garnet
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zeus dash isnt that good but it mine deal some damage

restive spoke
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I need to farm for some titan blood man

vocal lake
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'Sup witches? Stop hitting yourselves.'

restive spoke
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I want titan blood but I don’t wanna use different weapons

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Lol

vocal lake
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You're gonna kinda have to.

lusty spade
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I loved Poseidon Dash when I first started playing, thought knocking enemies into wall was the pinnacle of power haha

cold garnet
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6 first heat is easy to beat

restive spoke
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Well I guess it isn’t too difficult

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It’s only first boss

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Should be quite easy to get first boss at least

cold garnet
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try extream measure its goooooood

drowsy sand
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Either that or grind whatever it is you need to buy titan blood from the shop

cold garnet
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first thing newbie need always titan blood

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and the veteran need is diamond