#h1-for-new-players
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makes Merciful End look like a joke
one of those close call will eventually be close enough
play around the pillar, focus one of them first (ideally the cow), use both sound and visual cue for the spear, keep upgrading mirrors, etc.
i had the shield with the ricochet to different enemies thing and that just made the fight absolutely terrible lmfao
because the standard attack sucked
and the special would hit both so i got to the point where theseus was spamming aoe with bull still up
amazing
this fight really needs an HP cut
jesus
i think you should take a step back and reconsider your build. i am more than happy to give some pointers. Elysium is a bit of a damage check, but for different reasons than the bosses being too tanky.
well that's the thing, Hades is a roguelite. you can certainly force some builds by equipping god keepsakes
i was practically shredding the floors with that last build
then the poorly made boss filtered me again
epic
i was just using shield because of the dark boost
im just trying to save for that second revive
a lot of other stuff is maxed out except the max hp bonus
yeah that's good.
if you keep upgrading the mirror eventually you will see options to "force" builds
i guess
im getting weary of this die to brick wall boss loop
so idk if i even wanna keep grinding
understandable. although you can give Lightning Strike Rail a shot.
dont have it
is there a weapon that deletes theseus from the game
ill fight minotaur any day im tired of this range spamming shield having dude though
Hahaha
I am just showcasing what is possible
no i mean
actually delete him from the game files
i dont want him existing anymore
lol
i think Theseus second phase looks very intimidating, but once you get pass it, it seems much more manageable.
the first run is the hardest.
don't compare your run to this
@sly vigil what in the almighty is this
The video i mean
It's nemesis sword with five epic dash-strike boons
and crits
hydraulic might
probaly heartrend and double edge
@stark silo
the run is routed, so basically RNG was manipulated for the largest DPS possible.
basically near perfect run
That's why he always had crits
But you know i'm still gonna keep this for some day, the moveset itself must be also good
it's better than the old spread fire any heat
the constant crit was due to Hunter's Mark
but this is the "hidden" part of the build
disgusting
so I was wrong about the dash-strike boons
4 epics, a heroic, a rare and a common
what the hell is that
science
how can you ahve 3 times
3 times what?
Excruciating Lunge, and all three give +100%.
I mean, getting a certain curse/boon combo doesn't prevent you from getting it again
it's just very unlikely
But then, this run was made to be very unlikely.
yes
correct, this run is routed. it's to showcase what's possible, def not the norm.
here is a more reasonable TA fight, completely normal run, courtesy of yours truly
Hey, how does Triple Shot work with Hera bow?
cast comes out of the middle arrow
how do i improve skill more than just naturally playing
@lone nacelle gaining game knowledge such as synergies between boons/weapons, learning move sets of bosses
practice timing, more specifically dash i-frames timing, call i-frames timing
if you even want to go even further, learn how to utilize practice tools such as seeding, save manipulations, etc. (this is a slippery slope since it can lead to cheating but try to use it for practice purposes only)
learn weapons unique perks such as dash strike spam on Nemesis, animation cancelation on Arthur Sword, Spear spin, etc
so basically a lot, but the details are more suited for #h1-builds-and-combat, not here.
this game is fully going to my head i just beat the hydra second try and left with full health
Woohoo!
Is there a good build to go for with adamant rail? for the life of me i cant make it work
got to the stadium my first time ever in elysium i feel literally insane
cheesed the hell out of every single encounter with snap nova and got a bunch of artemis and ares boons, plus the dionysus boon that gives you full health at every fountain
like i should be mad i died to theseus and the minotaur but i got them below half on my first try im on cloud 9 right now
amazing job Woohoo
just wanted to ask a quick question! my friend started playing hades a few days ago but they died with their first encounter with thanatos and haven't seen him since. has anyone else died during his first contest with you and seen him afterward?
true! i remember them patching it so the rng was a little better but i guess it's still a chance after all. thanks!
Well after maxing out his affinity, I practically see him every two runs
Not sure if its because of the affinity though
I've been seeing him once every run for the past 5-6 runs
But it is still just down to chance unless I'm missing another factor
It's just RNG, but of course, you have a greater chance to see him the farther you make it in your run.
Hi!! Do i need to do something for Demeter to appear? I've played like 10 hours and haven't meet her once, it's the only deity I'm missing
you need to meet the final boss i think
okay thanks!!
Yeah she appeared for me when I confronted the final boss for the first time
Yup. Once you're past the last zone, you qualify for Lady Demeter.
I really like the last region
Enemies I will very happily kill just to not deal with them again, but it's unique
is there specific boons/weapons or whatever i should use for ||hades's second phase?|| or just get more accustomed and more upgrades to what im using
Just get more accustomed—anythingcan work for it, and || if you've gotten that far, you're doing something right ||
what Swan said, tho when i was starting out i did find it massively helpful to get a call that granted invincibility
so ares, athena or poseidon
but that’s cause i was really bad at dodging lol
still am, tbh
All calls will grant some frames of invincibility upon activation.
Actually works better for panic-i-framing than dash when you need it.
Also ||Companions||, if you've got them.
do you get that from the hearts at the bottom of the keepsake menu?
But yeah, the large window of invincibility from those 3 calls specifically can help a lot. Leaves more room for error.
yo guys
which boons besides aphro are big on attack damage again
actually
I will read wiki or something
artemis is my fav for big whammy dmg
which boons besides aphro are big on attack damage again
Demeter offers a sizable boost
Poseidon next I think
Artemis is the lowest among percentage boons I think, mainly because it also offers crit chance.
well yeah but crit dmg is fun
i have never played a single game with meta in mind and i don't intend to start now
fair enough. there is not exactly a "meta" in Hades, either. just some builds are more popular than others.
high heat strategies says otherwise 
S-stra-strat.... I just flail around and hope for the best
worked for my 19-20 heat runs 
who needs strat when you can spam snap nova
I think that's about it tbh
Keys are also used to reset mirror talents, but you probably won't be doing that too often so trading is essentially the only sink left for keys
resetting talents doesn't seem to be too big a deal considering there's an unlimited amount of darkness to be found
171,215 is the total darkness to unlock everything in the mirror so good luck!
I'll get there eventually
And then you have 33035 gems to complete the house contractor
Sounds fun.
It's what you make of it
Diamonds are a bit more balanced though
With only 125
Mind you these might get updated as 1.0 isn't out yet
"Only"
I jest though
It gives me a reason to continue playing the game
Meanwhile I still have been able to give neither nectar nor ambrosia to Achilles
Did you ||exhaust Patroculus' dialogue as well?||
Not yet
That's why
I had a feeling that's what i needed to do
Though I haven't come across him as frequently today
May RNG be with you from now onward
which boons besides aphro are big on attack damage again
Heartbreak Strike > Deadly Strike > Divine Strike or Frost Strike > Tempest Strike.
That's for the +% boons, anyway.
does deadly strike really do less than heartbreak, even when you factor in the crits?
i mean, i’ve never done the math
deadly strike common is only 20% extra with 15% chance of crits, while heartbreak is 50%
since crits do 200% more dmg, hypothetically you do 60% dmg, that's if you get a crit
if you look at it a crit strike is around a 1 in 6 chance of procing (only in relation to the strike, specials and all r diff), which is across 6 hits of deadlly strike will be a total of 160% extra dmg (considering only one crit strike happened)
while in heartbreak strike its 50% from the get go, so in 6 hits you do 300% more dmg total
also i might be mistaken but i think Aphro has a higher scaling for dmg increase through poms of power than arty
i think it’s actually 240%?
6*20+100 (from the crit)?
but either way, you’re right
aphro comes out well ahead
yeah anyway good to know, i kind of just assumed arty worked out to more damage (as there’s no status effect) and never bothered to question it
but if you have something that has high rate of doing dmg (eg. fists) along with a few chaos boons boosting attack, you cant go wrong with an arty rare+ main attacks
good point
also there heart rend/hunter’s mark etc. which complicate this
but out the gate, aphro has the lead
I've been out for an update or two, but it feels like I get way fewer boons each run? Instead I feel like I'm presented nonstop rooms with Darkness, Keys, Gemstones, Poms, and Shops. Is this just me?
Just confirmation bias.
if you want you can use a mirror talent which increases the chance of boon and similar rooms have a higher chance of spawning
The expected percentage of blue laurel (metacurrency) rooms (darkness, keys, gems, nectar) decreases over time. It is highest in Tartarus and gets lower. Especially for a new player that can't progress far yet, they are typically seen in large quantity.
The number of shops is always the same.
Two per biome.
As for the Poms, it's a matter of luck. They share their pool (gold laurel rooms) with hearts, hammers and boons.
Just beat Hades for the first time! Gotta love the bow
but if you have something that has high rate of doing dmg (eg. fists) along with a few chaos boons boosting attack, you cant go wrong with an arty rare+ main attacks
Attack speed is not a factor for whether crits are good or not.
i know but for me i believe smtg that fas fire rate, allows more crits to be done so higher dmg in a shorter amount of time
It averages out, though.
well it all comes down to rng in the end
attack speed is a factor if you have hunter's mark
the sooner you crit, the sooner you crit even moar
My lambent plume seems to be stuck at 19% this run
Is there a cap I don't know about?
I've definitely cleared at least a couple rooms quickly enough to gain more
There is no cap, and people have been getting over 30% bonus with the plume before.
Are you in the Satyr tunnels, by any chance?
Because the plume won't trigger in the small rooms, but only in the end rooms.
Ah OK
I was also using it in Elysium and I swear some of those rooms I cleared quickly enough
Guess I'm stuck at 19 for the time being
I do also have an extra 30% from greater haste so it's still good
I also didn't know the sack could be in the stronger rooms
Did you see/hear the plume effects when clearing those rooms, but the value stayed the same? Then you should
it.
I never take an elite tunnel first in order to increase the chance of skipping an elite middle management fight.
I have heard a noise when clearing some rooms but wasn't too sure what it was
I always do the normal tunnels first
And now I only have the final elite tunnel to explore and it gives me a pom, so might as well
That "might as well" sometimes bites you when a Tiny Vermin happens to be hiding in there.
Tiny vermin is not that hard tbh.
Tiny vermin being the little rats coming out of the ground?
Oh, no, no, you'll know Tiny Vermin when you meet them.
Just gotta show it who is boss 
Does dash attack trigger an attack penalty? Currently running Zag Shield w/ Aphro's attack and Art's dash as my main damage.
attack penalty as in chaos curses?
yep
yes, dash-strikes trigger them
Each time you attack get hit for -4. I noticed a previous Chaos gave me dmg specifically to dash attacks so I wasn't sure
are you sure it didn't reduce dash distance?
Meant the benefit gave me dmg to dash attack
ah
Atrophic Lunge: Your Dash-Strike deals +81% dmg
curses and buffs are entirely unrelated honestly
gotcha. appreciate the help
Hello? I found a little bug, but I don't know where I said this...
do we get to know about the bug, or were you just asking how to report it?
I wanna how to report.
just hit F10 ingame
I use Ingame report, but It has error.
F10 can't upload my screenshot with bug scene...
but, I can write the situation
does the court music stand do anything story wise or is it just music player
It's just music
aspect of luci worth unlocking for a newer player? i enjoyed adamant rail a fair bit with zeus and stuff
I want that legendary fishing boon from Poseidon again 
You need to get his two resource boons as pre-reqs :S
Which boons?
Sunken Treasure and Ocean's Bounty.
Ah OK
So I have to get both of those in one run and I'll get the fishing boon in the next?
Also how does rushed delivery work?
So I have to get both of those in one run and I'll get the fishing boon in the next?
@patent cedar getting the prereqs for a boon does't guarantee that you'll receive it
you get if you're lucky, yeah
Question regarding God Boon kepsakes that promise the next one to be theirs. Grabbed Zues's going into the 3rd area and my first options are either his or hammer... So two question
- Do hammers reappear if you skip them?
- My keepsake has a timer below it at one. Will it work for the next room or am I boned if I don't take Zues now?
your keepsake charge is used when you receive a boon from the god that gave it to you
so if you pick a hammer or a differentgod, it will continue guaranteeing that zeus is offered to you
and hammers can reappear but it's not guaranteed
sweet, glad to hear it. Thanks again for the help
Is here where to ask about skellys prizes???
Because I have no idea what they mean or how to get them or anything about them at all
@vital pond || look in the bottom right of the courtyard ||
Okay thank you
Why can I never meet the third NPC anymore 
hey, is there a reason random weapons glow purple sometimes?
i know it gives more darkness but its completely random lol
It's totally random
It changes every time you do a run
There isn't really a reason for it (in terms of the story), that I know of
ah
got it thanks
also does the shield only have one attack
it doesnt seem to combo or anything like the sword
Press and hold, otherwise no other attack
yeah thats odd
Yup
The special is cool though
Nice!
the shield block is nasty
Yup
Muspelheim, what language is that? (I know what region you're referring to, don't worry)
Lol
muspelheim is fire realm of norse mythology
To be fair, this version of Asphodel doesn't match the original Greek Asphodel
And yeah, was wondering if that meant anything different or was just referencing the Norse
does death defiance revive you like that skeleton dudes passive
Yup
store wont let me buy it
weird
is it because i used the skeleton dudes passive already
Do you have a little circle in the bottom left, above your health?
And yes
i dont
Then that's why you couldn't buy the Death Defiance—though it actually shouldn't've shown up, so if you haven't already left that room
Might want to hit
to report that, sounds like a bug
Ends up being shorter than Tartarus, usually
Yup 
Hi! Noob question, everytime i pass an stage, i see how the i "climb" the mountain, and i see some blood, diamons, that i never get, where are they if I passed the place where they are? Sorry, my english ><
If you have already cleared the place once, you will not be able to get them again unless playing on higher difficulty or with a different weapon 🙂
oh... i see
You can be revived once every chamber.
jesus thats op
There is a downside: In boss fights, you will have one revive only as well. Compared with Death Defiance, which gives you a lot of effective HP, you will have to contend with less margin for error.
So if you deal easily with mobs and struggle with bosses, stick with Death Defiance.
yup thats me
At the early stages of the game, that's most likely the case.
dont understand what death defiance really does though
Stubborn Defiance becomes a lot more valuable when the difficulty is increased.
Death Defiance is an extra life.
ngl the ingame explanations for some upgrades are pretty bad
When you hit zero hp, you will be revived with half hp and expend a death defiance.
You can have up to three, and there are means to refresh them during a run.
so stubborn defiance gives you revive every chamber
and death defiance gives you stackable revives
did i get that right
Yes.
yeah ill buy death defiance
from my understanding i have 2 revives before death now, with lucky tooth
Those should hold out pretty far for a start. Enough for at least one boss fight.
Where does that term come up?
boon selections
it means it is one of the items from the Fated List of Minor Prophecies. something you haven't picked yet in any prior runs
unlocking options from the Fated List will often reward you with bonus resources, so it's early on a good way of getting some extra darkness or gems or the like
If you have already cleared the place once, you will not be able to get them again unless playing on higher difficulty or with a different weapon 🙂
that questions was recently addressed by someone else, so I'll just quote that xD
oh thanks
Until you've beaten a run, you can get a maximum of 6 from her (or her sisters), everything else will open up after your first win.
Not sure where to ask this but is there an obvious tell regarding ||which choice in the temple has Cerberus's bag||? I'm exhausted after dancing around on no health nor defiances and it ended up being the last room.
yeah its completely random
It will never be the first one though
Do alter rolls on resource rooms ever become boons?
Can't tell if I'm wasting them on resource rooms or I should be rerolling for a specific god.
I think rerolling the blue laurels just roll from that pool
Darkness/gems/keys/nectar will reroll into darkness/gems/keys/nectar
So technically I think it would be a waste of time
Ouch, that makes sense.
Which golden laurel do you prefer to reroll? My gut says obol rewards though golden touch makes that harder.
gold is generally lowest priority for me, yeah, since anything you could get is worth more than 100 gold
except poms i guess
but really idk, as i usually run ||fated persuasion not fated authority||
Health is another candidate, if you happen to already have enough. You mostly don't need more than four pickups total over a run.
first time on elysium
Woohoo!!
All the best!
Good luck, enemies will keep an eye on you 👁️
Keep practicing. At this point, you just need to get patterns down.
yeah once you learn the pattern it becomes easy
Athena's boons are very useful to avoid and deflect damage, I would consider taking them
Thanks! Btw controller or mouse + Keyboard?
I'm more of a KBM person, but thats because I'm used to it
I use mouse and keyboard, personally. But it comes down to taste.
Same
Or you could be weird like @tepid vale and use both
Then will try to adapt to KBM. My controller has some weird drift issues.
Great! Hope you enjoy your day/night in hell!
Good luck! ^.^ I've found that I prefer KBM because I prefer to have more fine control over my aiming, while Controller gives more fine control over movement
So far I’m enjoying it a lot. One of my favorite games is Dead Cells and this game is ‘similar’
Good luck! ^.^ I've found that I prefer KBM because I prefer to have more fine control over my aiming, while Controller gives more fine control over movement
@ornate remnant
Or you could be weird like @tepid vale and use both
imagine the Value of that level of accuracy
fine movement and fine aim at the same time? yes please
Me too!!!!
you're the first other person I've seen who doesn't think that's super weird
why am i being attacked by butterflies
@tepid vale what are your binds?
LB to dash, LT to interact, stick click to call
LBM for attacks, RBM for cast. special and summon are on thumb buttons
@vast oxide Welcome to Elysium 
getting demolished by weird men with swords isn't fun?
when i think about it
its pretty fun
should i be using the diamond i got for house contractor?
does it have another purpose
I'm pretty sure that every use of the diamonds comes from the house contractor, one way or another.
But more options will come over time, so if it's just for cosmetics, you can save them.
Orpheus.
if you can buy out a contract, do it
Yeah, worthy use of it.
those are story events, and I think all of them have huge mechanical benefits eventually
morpheus is the god of being cool in the matrix
not the court musician of Hades
i think morpheus is the god of sleeping or something
so what does edgy singing lady do
Orpheus is a man
Hypnos is also a guy. But don't let them get you down.
i was less suprised to hear that loader from risk of rain is a girl than sleep dude being a dude
Morpheus is the male god of dreams and brother to Hypnos, not in the game
Hypnos is the male god of sleep and quite obviously in the game.
Orpheus was a mortal musician, also male, and also in the game
RNG being mean
Happens, just gotta keep rolling with it
Maybe this time
I did just run into him so
Something worked
I couldn't give him as nectar again though, but progress in the story is always good
Yeah I just don't want to say it in case someone might see it as a spoiler or something
Oh well, congrats on meeting him again!
Yeah, RNG is fun- I can go a few streaks and never run into any npc and then I'm meeting them everyotherrun xD
Yeah this particular run I found all 3 after having seen none at all for a good while
I must say I am utterly smitten by this game
Elysium seems quite a bit more difficult than the previous zones
I
It filtered an emote
omfg
How does one unlock more of the story (and other things)
Just giving ambrosia willy nilly?
Or is it better to focus giving to a couple characters at a time
@jolly hill Giving everyone Nectar, pretty much. And then Ambrosia when you can.
This game is really cool,but why does it sometimes have no sound?Is it a BUG?
Yup, hit
in-game to report it
@warm ravine
And restarting the game will usually fix it
OK,I will do that.Thanks
Sure thing! Good luck with your run ^.^
going into the pause menu and back out usually fixes the sound thing for me, so you might not have to restart the game
but i haven't had that bug in a while so ymmv
ymmv?
your mileage may vary
|| 4th aspects are spoilers || and kinda, it also || changes some casts like Demeter's to be AoEs ||
👍 
does the 2nd boon in a trial of the gods have a higher chance of higher rarity
Nope
“I’ll just play a little bit of Hades before going to sleep”
212 minutes this session
is there a way i can keep track of wich weapons i got titan blood with
because i cant remember
you will be able to, after you clear the game for the first time
if you mean just the first blood from act 1, then I don't know of one
I'm sure she'll tell you.
I liked bow
I just took a lot of damage using it because I’m too reliant on the shield now
im fist/sword/shield
bow and spear are the weapons I'm weakest with
I wasn’t too bad with spear but I did also take a lot of damage with that
I had a pretty hard time aiming with the bow
Is there a noise queue or something when there's a fishing point?
there's a sound that plays and sometimes before leaving a chamber zag will say s/t like 'looks like there's fish to catch' (i don't remember exactly because i am always zooming STRAIGHT to the fishing point)
yeah its like a high pitched bell tone, plays straight after you pick up your boon iirc
Does thanatos only have a chance to spawn after a certain part of the story is completed or something?
Cause I ain’t never seen his ass
Oh my god
That filter ruins my emote usage
I’m sorry mods
Good luck with that boss
oh god
I figured there was a sound queue because I sometimes heard something on entering a room and there would be a fishing point
dude with spear and boar with axe
But that was only when I had the fishing boon
||which of the two did you target first?||
(don't want to spoiler stuff for other players too much, so I'll just put anything regarding that fight in spoiler tags 🙂)
Don't worry, I died a couple times against them
Even died twice after having beaten them previously
hi ! quick question: what does the After Party boon do exactly ?
After Party can give you a health restore at the end of the chamber if your below the health threshold (I'm not entirely sure what the threshold is, though) and will you up TO that.
so if you're not taking damage in encounters it won't help you a lot, but if you tend to get rather low and are in danger of dying constantly, it's a nice option to have
I think threshold for common is like 30%?
(don't want to spoiler stuff for other players too much, so I'll just put anything regarding that fight in spoiler tags 🙂)
@wide shore bull dude
i got him at his quarter health and the other dude at half
||kaykay, as I understand it that's the common "tactic" or at least what worked best for me at the start. Concentrate on him first, kill him first and then switch focus^^ and try not to get Theseus to his second phase too soon, because it will be harder to dodge both of them at the same time at that point||
||aight, i hate how the bull charges at you for a long time though thats so annoying||
||tip for that: dash through the pillars and have him run against them ;)||
Pretty much that
And when it comes to second phase just hope you don't get a mean one
oh i've been having trouble with this fight too
im thinking about turning on god mode just to see if i could last longer 😭
there's no shame in turning it on!
no shame in doing that, ever x) you're supposed to have fun in the game after all x)
I have god mode on, it’s really useful
Especially when I just want to get the damn story from our friend in Elysium -_-
secod try for the boar and arrow dude
Good luck!
ezpz you got this
i was scared i was gonna fighr cerberus at first lol
He's too good of a boi
||fighting hades||
please put that in spoiler tags x)
@vast oxide spoiler tags please
||where does the chamber left of hades lead?||
||and whats that reward i get from killing the 2 heroes do||
@vast oxide || which chamber? ||
|| You'll be able to give it to people ||
/spoiler the hall right to achilles
/spoiler doesn't work on mobile
Anyway, || nothing, yet. We think it's Hades' room, but it's not unlocked yet ||
you can put "||" before and after the message to make it a spoiler^^
how do i get more titan blood? i read a few things on it and it seems like i need to beat the game if I've already beaten meg with every weapon?
i dont want spoilers but, how many levels are there?
||4||
He's easy enough to deal with provided you can dodge the other guy
@dusky crane Tip: ||Get into the habit of dashing through him, rather than trying to dash to the side.||
i ussually end up beating him actually hes just annoying. the guy thats an actual issue is theseus
i ended up just thobbing aoe casts at him for 5 minutes
Does ||shield have knockback|| on every strike? Got ||Sea Storm|| and can't tell if it's consistent.
@jovial stump || Sea Storm only triggers on attacks that use Tempest boons ||
Womp womp.... ty
You do get benefit from the boon that buffs wall slams though.
is there a meaning in the very bright glow for boons in the maze
is it higher rarity ones? or do boons just glow like that
berry bright
miniboss rooms have better rewards, so yeah, the glow symbolizes that
for boons it's higher rarity, for poms it's +2 levels, for hearts it's +50 max health, for obols it's 200 obols.
though the glow does appear way too bright, lol
how do most people play this game? i stream it for my friends often and some them kinda criticize me because i dash a lot and play very aggressive
oh that's how i play lol, constant dashing and bashing
except for bosses, i wait for opportunities for them i dont just rush in
my dad's more careful about it, he likes using the bow a lot and lining up his shots but i just run in with the shield and dash around the room
bow is cool, i used the bow in a few runs
but im used to gauntlets, sword or spear so i still play bow very aggressive which just aint how it should be played
what i ussually did is just spam special and spread doom or hangover until everything dies
the one time i did find i think a deadalus buff or something that made me rapid fire by bow instead of charge shot
i liked that a lot
but im used to gauntlets, sword or spear so i still play bow very aggressive which just aint how it should be played
you can play bow however you want
charged volley with a high damage special boon turns your bow into a shotgun
twin shot and explosive shot together is basically a melee build
https://i.imgur.com/SfVUc4x.png what does this mean
https://i.imgur.com/OqQTvFM.png this too
You've progressed this relationship as far as you can in Early Access at this point, and will need to wait for further updates to progress it further. for the first one.
For the second one, you need to meet a certain condition in order to continue to unlock hearts. It usually just involves continuing to interact with that character.
ah
I feel like unless I use the bow I am incapable of not taking damage

gonna have fun beating the game with every weapon
Early Access means that the game isn't released in its full form yet. The tech beta was a temporary beta to test the new enginge. Currently, all players have the same regular, early access content.
the tech beta was a one time thing for before this update, because this update was an unusually unstable one and sgg didn’t want players’ saves to get messed up accidentally
so they used the tech beta and its volunteers to fix up the update before its release
how do i progress the sisypus quest
i have the locked heart but idk if i need to talk to him or meg or than next
@lone nacelle || you need to talk to several people—Meg, Sisy, and Nyx ||
also ||bouldy||
The quest will all be worth it when you get that ambiguity bonus
truth
hey, i was watching gameplay of hades which made me want to buy it but they were using a controller and now im semi concerned about keyboard and mouse. could anyone tell me whether it plays well on keyboard and mouse still?
it works on keyboard and mouse. In fact, if you value being able to aim, it works significantly better on keyboard and mouse
or you can be really cool and hold the controller in your left hand and the mouse in your right
The actual best one is keyboard + controller
wasd abxy 👌
terrible
Wait you have A in there twice, that's illegal
Transmitting feedback at the same time
8-directional movement and no aiming capabilities is my jam
The enemies in elysium hurt me physically and mentally 
But mostly virtually
equally 🙃
The Temple is throwing me for a loop
what'd you say is the best keepsake
it’s less about best and more about what you need at the time; generally you’ll want to switch out between each zone unless you’re doing a butterfly/plume run
my rough formula is:
Tartarus: a god keepsake to get my build started
Asphodel: another god or coin purse if i don’t need anything specific
Elysium: whatever of the above i haven’t taken yet, or bone hourglass
Styx: lucky tooth (tho a lot of people use the acorn)
hey everyone im new to hades and i just wanted to ask, does the dash have invincibility frames? so i can dash inside the enemy attacks and still not get hit?
dashing does, dash attacking does not
Is there a reason that "Give Up" does not generate a new seed? I would understand the argument that it allows you to retry a failed attempt or it screws with the run / resources counter, but the whole thing feels strange to go back in with perfect knowledge.
You're forced to find a trap if you want to have a new experience.
a lot of things wont be the same because even simple actions change things, it's not 'perfect knowledge'
you do start with same/similar stuff but as it goes on it wont be the same unless you make an effort to do what you did before afaik
i'd rather have a functionality that keeps a seed than not
would make even minor routing difficult
Noted. Will note a positive of the current "Give Up" is that it allows you to test different aspects without committing blood. It currently resets to when you first entered the weapons room.
like, if i start a new run and there's an epic cast in the first boon, i can simply give up and switch to a different weapon/keepsake
wait if you switch to a different god keepsake will the epic cast still be there?
yes
will still be there
Also works if you don't like the hammer upgrade for your current weapon. Can switch and see what it gives to something else.
and just wanting a retry on a run with a good seed is good as well. if i ever need a new seed, dying isn't much of an inconvenience
True. I would have thought ||Administrative Privileges|| would record the seed for past attempts and give you a form to enter a new one.
Also if I pick the wrong keepsake to start, give up doesn't kill my streak because of that functionality.
So that's nice.
What are the delta chamber and the infinity chamber? I see them mentioned in #hades-feedback but I can't figure out at they are
They're Hammer Upgrades for || Exagryph ||, one of the weapons
Oh they aren't rooms lol
nope
Thanks!
Sure thing ^.^
I did it
Quick question, when does "increase on undamaged enemies" actually work
Like, do they still take the increased damage after hitting Damage Control hearts or not
damage control hearts don't count, so it'll be the first hit after they're down
hello guys does hell mode have new features that normal mode doesnt?
It has a few pacts (difficulty modifiers) active from the start, among them a unique one (Personal Liability), and forces the player to gradually increase difficulty.
My boyfriend, knowing nothing about the game, decided to jump in on hell mode
Seems to enjoy it enough though
where can I post about a bug? nothing serious its just a text visual bug.
press F10 in game
that crashes the game for me everytime for some reason
The game will be on hold as long as the bug reporter is open. Alt-Tab into the bug reporter if needed. After clicking the thank you message, the game should unpause.
and forces the player to gradually increase difficulty
this was actually changed and isn’t forced anymore
just finished the game!
||the weird stoned dude at the start said that someone else came from the blood pool we respawn at, whats up with that?||
||that's hypnos, and hades came from that pool just like you do since he died||
||i guess that makes sense, does he really not remember or pretends to?||
||i don't remember it, maybe he was asleep, and the list he has probably says something like 'redacted' like when you're killed by him||
||it's not that he doesn't remember, he just doesn't care who it was, other than the fact that it wasn't Zag||
||and you probably wouldn't be willing to talk openly about your lord and master being murked by your brother, either.||
||got it, i like how the "narrator" dude just said lets pretend dad demolished you for now||
also i just unlocked || pack of punishment || , but i really couldnt figure out what it does
||it lets you get more titan blood, diamonds, and ambrosia, and also makes the game harder if you want it to||
no. Just fall
this fall? nice
yeah, this fall, specifically
Fall is right around the corner tho
indeed
We just have to be patient
shouldnt be that hard
Is there any house contractor guide? To know which stuff should i buy and/or ignore
buy all of it
not a listed one, but || you want to get the "Renovations" first, the ones that improve your runs mechanically. Fountains and Gold Urns are really important||
@tepid vale don't scare the poor dude
grinding for hundreds of hours is fun, but entirely optional
Grind hours for hundreds of gems.
hmmm
Scary but fun
alright so, i finally got to the end boss and died about halfway through. i seem to get further with the fists than anything else but i feel like i'm getting gimpy boons and such since i dont really know who to pick
i feel like divine dash is much more useful than divine strike
if you have divine dash, get ares attack and go for merciful end
i've done both high heat and speedruns with the fists and i struggle hard without divine dash
for fists? Is there a meta weapon / aspect most people use for more consistent runs?
Literally anything works
zag aspect is usually a lot better
i think people generally go for either zeus or ares attack
is there a god symbol graphic out there?
Divine Strike usually works better for me than Divine Dash. They're both good, anyway.
Divine Strike, Curse of Agony, or Lightning Strike is definitely the meta.
For Divine Strike, both Hunter Dash and Divine Dash are great.
For the other two, you usually want Divine Dash.
which god gives those
All the aspects can do a lot of work. Talos Aspect is the most difficult to use, though, but the potential is there.
Divine is always Lady Athena.
shes the gold circle yeah?
Curse is always Lord Ares. Lightning is always Lord Zeus. And Hunter is Lady Artemis.
The golden shield, yes.
sweet, doing a shield run atm to try to get some titan blood i think
got hunter dash, will look for athena if i can find her
Well, those comments were about Malphon.
What is malphon?
The fists.
ahh gotcha
First time trying approval process, after losing Second Wave and jolted twice I think it's safe to say I'm not touching this again until 30+ heat
hello
i just beat the game for the first time. what do the little gold icons indicate next to the skills at the victory screen?
They're pins - you can pin/unpin boons to showcase your build in the victory screenshot
alright so, im tryna clear the run here in a minute, haven't but i think ive got a pretty decent build this run. ran into this thing, what is it?
nvm cant post pics.
its an anvil that is -1 hammer +2 random hammer
not sure i should click it
@gray haven
@half gazelle || final boss name is a spoiler please tag your message ||
And you can post pics with imgur links
|| what you found is the Anvil, it will randomly remove one hammer and randomly add two ||
ima dm you rq
I think #h1-story-discussion has that info pinned
How does temple of styx work for counting keepsake encounters? Ie. For the butterfly, must you not take damage all 5+ chambers then it is counted? Likewise with the plume? Doesn't seem to work by chamber and i keep taking damage in the big room.
For butterfly and plume only last chambers count, you can take damage in smaller ones
for anything else they all count
thanks
I am cursed to never find the death defiance recharge in the well when I can actually afford it
Happens, one of the mirror upgrades lets you reroll wells
Happened again
RNG is an interesting one
Is there a reason I can't give Meg nectar after she talks to someone and then goes off alone to the lounge, but can give it to other people? There's been a few times now where I load in, and she's talking to some one (Hades, Dusa, etc), and then when I leave the room and come back in I can give nectar to whomever she was talking to, but never can give it to her...And she's almost ALWAYS talking to someone, so pretty much never have the opportunity to give any to her
Only reason I can think of is something with where you're at with the dialogue, but I'm not quite sure.... been too long since I was doing dialogue x.x
I wonder if that's a bug actually
it's just bad luck
Oh is that an actual intended thing?*
I remember just saying it was bad luck when I had to do it, but I had time to spare
yeah
you're not exactly supposed to get shafted by not being able to gift them, but it is a natural result of dialogue rng.
Maybe a feedback point?
Ah, well that stinks... I figured it was something unintended since I could gift everyone else after talking.
Whelp, time for to hope she's alone from now on! Or spawns in general haha
Thanks for the help!
Sometimes Meg doesn’t give a hoot about Zag, that’s what I chalked it up to
Kinda annoying since after 26 escape attempts I've seen her alone like 3 times but oh well! I'll live haha
Good luck!
Is Thanatos supposed to peace out as soon as his event finishes?
Used to be able to talk to him / gift him but now he’s like. bye
And then back at home he is talking to someone else so I can’t do anything but listen
He is playing hard to get I stg
He just disappears if you don't kill more enemies than him during the encounter iirc
he usually just leaves (after dropping a reward if you beat him), but does stick around for a few story events.
as far as conversations at the house go, it's just bad luck if you can't talk to/gift him
A lot of things are bad luck, but Than is also shy/busy 
Not much free time on your hands when your the literal incarnate of death
who do i gift nectar for the companions? I only have skelly after like 30+ clears lol
For most of them you have to complete a quest first, then you can give them Ambrosia for the companion
whats a quest, like prophecies?
Kinda. They'll ask something to do, mostly buying a special thing from the contractor
i just unlocked the release orpheus thing and bought the contract for 3 diamonds, is that for a companion
That's the one thing that doesn't lead to one, but it's things like those
If you want to know who are the people here is the list:
||Megaera||
||Skelly||
||Achillies and Patroculus||
||Sysiphus||
||Thanatos||
||Dusa||
ah nice
You need to have Nyx at the locked heart point for some of these to unlock
does any of the text before and after games mean anything? cant remember any examples rn
It's just lore
o
Very juicy lore.
i just find it weird that one randomw word is shown like "Breeze" or something
never understood that
Yeah, that's just the narrator saying that we're still in EA and there isn't a proper conclusion to the story
And then he kills Zag
Or, uhm, various random things do, surely nothing that he has anything to do with
Sorry if this is a silly question, but does anyone have any advice about how to not suck with the bow?
dash attack lots
For the bow I keep my distance, hit and run tactics
but I also have most of the enemy's attack patterns memorized
i generally fire, dash, fire, dash
even if i'm not doing optimal hits all the time, keeping away from enemies is most important!
also the special on the default bow can do a lot of burst damage since it won't spread as much the closer to an enemy you are
oh! and poseidon boons are great for keeping enemies away
demeter too
I like athena special for default bow, nice big deflect
but knockback and slow is nice
I like athena special too
I like slamming special into an enemy's back
and it's good utility for when you're fighting witches etc
Oh yeah Athena special is fantastic
how do i ||upgrade the area in the record room to reunite chaos and nyx||
will the bone hourglass duration duration increase for items still last if i take it off
For the existing items, yes
if I take bone hourglass, I always try to purchase items at the well mid-biome before switching out the keepsake in order to get the longer duration on those items
how do I provide feedback? I'm not allowed in the feedback thread
when you use the blueprint your resources should be more visible
@signal minnow Check the pins in the #hades-feedback channel
does Divine strike cause the shields bull rush to deflect rather than block?
the answer is While charging it still blocks however while moving forward with the attack you will deflect
Yeah
yo how you get lots of titans blood
Once you || beat the final boss || you can get more.
will there be updates post release?
Devs have said they're not thinking about that yet, so we don't know
gotcha
Based on their previous games, not likely though
good to keep on task
they said they are going "all in" on this final update
Crush shot, sweet surrender, heart rend and splitting headache
I didn't mean to get this lot but apparently it happened
Hey there I'm new to Discord and to the Hades Community; I just wanted to say that you guys at Super Giant absolutely hit it out of the park with this game! I was a big fan of Transistor's combat and this game took it to the next level. I'm blown away by the characters and content of this "early-access" game, and it puts other full retail AAA games to shame 😛 Absolute contender for my game of the year 2020! Great job you guys
It's my favorite of 2020 hands down
same
any advice for using the shield, particularly the blitz disc?
Do folks on PC feel the game is better with a controller or straight M&k?
By "better" I mean optimal, or more up to preference?
any advice for using the shield, particularly the blitz disc?
get all the zeus boons and you will be fine
specifically thunder flourish -> static discharge -> double strike (or high voltage/storm lightning) -> splitting bolt
i usually try to grab demeter on attack and go for cold fusion, but really splitting bolt is all you need
controller and mouse
that’s specifically for blitz disk ofc
tho you can use that build on chaos aspect as well
@formal rover thanks a bunch!
i honestly suck pretty bad at the game
finally finished my first run a weekish ago
this game is hard lol
i’ve been playing for over 200 hours and still feel like i suck half the time
Is it weird that I find the aspect of chaos underwhelming
What am I missing? Heard someone say it is broken the other day
Feels like, outside of tartarus, the special just tickles
no matter what hammers or boons I’ve attempted so far
Ridiculous DOT stacks, burst damage early, auto-hitting enemies from across the map, etc. It does need some level-ups to really get good though.
Of course, not everything people agree is good needs to fit with your play style and that’s okay too
Dionysus is a fair point
It also works with ||Demeter|| since it allows you to apply that status effect to all enemies almost instantaneously, which procs a boon of hers
it's good with thunder flourish too
it's underwhelming at lower levels
great at max
Hey thanks @ornate remnant !
Sure thing!
Yeah I really like the special for slapping doom on a bunch of enemies
For sure, one of most memorable runs I ever had was Doom Laser Duo, where I had the hammer that makes Bull Rush a piercing projectile, put Athena’s special on and then got ||merciful end|| then just alternated the doom laser and insta-procs
Honestly not even a super broken combo, just good clean fun
Chaos Aspect is good because it can be very safe—not because it does a lot of damage. There are better aspects if you want damage.
I also think it's way overrated. People have success with it because they use it over aspects, because people tell them to use it, so they get more practice with it than other aspects, etc. . . . I'm way better with other aspects, personally.
I think people have success with it because it has little to no risk
yeah i actually play mostly with other weapons, but when i'm trying to do higher heat i keep coming back to the chaos shield
i mean, other weapons don't make me invulnerable
i still die despite the invulnerability, but it helps 😛
Try Zag aspect Fists with the feather equipped.. it can be nutty if you can clear rooms fast.
Also the spear with 3x strike on your dash-attack.. combined with either Zeus or Dio.. or Artemis.
Or the gun with doom on special, special is a rocket launcher, with the spread shot special.. its insane.
serrated point with lots of bonus dash-strike damage is 
I've had builds that could one-shot elites in Elysium
I don't know what's considered spoiler in this channel lol
How do I find the most recent Q&A? Is there a firmer 1.0 release date from that?
Or is it still just "Autumn 2020?"
#ask-supergiant is the Q&As, and still just"This fall"
check #ask-supergiant
Thank you much! 🙂
Sure thing o7
@tepid vale final boss and anything past clearing the game for the first time.
easy
Holy moly this game is good
For the first time, I accidentally skipped dialogue 
Is there any where I can review what was said?
Not that I know of, sadly
What's up with starting a run sometimes, and you get a screen with Hades describing one of the gods?
iirc, those are brief flashbacks to previous conversations Zag had with Hades
Ah gotcha
Didn't know if it meant like that god wouldnt be in the run or something lol
sometimes i feel like that points towards that god being the first boon u get
In this case, it was about Zeus, though the beginning room was a boon from Aphrodite
eh, i just prolly remember the times thatb happens
There is = quit game to menu. The game saves on new room entry so you should be able to get the dialogue again
this works unless you take damage and/or fish
Or you can give up to replay current seed
that should also keep the dialogues
Not all, but most
well some are randomly selected from the queue - e.g. opening by your father is semi-random
but story related dialogue is normally the same if you replay a seed
Huh, what did I do for Zag to say "Well, 5 second rule" or something
probably for picking up a healing item
Yeah, picking up food items.
Ah, gotcha
Holy moly the 3rd boss fight
So much HP
Not to mention Asterius drifts so hard while charging
it gets better
Getting around that charge is tough if you don't have some killer mobility
Or good timing—don't try and outrun it
Fight him between a pillar and a wall, then dash through him when he does his bull charge. He'll try to turn around and slam into either the pillar or the wall.
Or if you're right next to a wall or pillar, dash away or through him at the last moment.
Any tips for dealing with those archers in Elysium? I always get tagged by those at least a few times. Same for the Satyrs, especially when there's more than one and I don't have Poseidon's boons around to bounce them off the walls.
Pay attention to the targeting markers for archers and take cover.
And try to deflect Satyr attacks back at them if you can, or chain stagger them with attacks.
Obviously depends on the situation, but sometimes just being more aggressive is a good strategy against strongbows. They have much less health than other exalted, and will often try to run rather than shoot you if you get close, which buys you time.
Running perpendicular to their attacks helps too, no? Well for strongbows
yeah
For Satyrs I swore you could attack the projectile, but I might be remebering wrong x.x
for elite satyrs tho sometimes moving perpendicular just yeets you straight into one of their other projectiles
you can destroy most projectiles by hitting them, though i'm not sure about satyrs or strongbows
they shoot so fast i usually rely on dodging
Hit and run tactics is what I use against elite satyrs
i either hit and run or go hyper aggressive based purely on whether i have divine dash or not 😛
Really just have to figure out what works best for you, especially in some of those more cramped rooms lol
Highly variable tactics, thanks RNG!
but the tips given should help a bit I hope
And if it's the boss satyr? Cry. Cry and try to time your big hits after his attack and do your best.
Or deflect one attack and laugh at them.
and after you're done crying and you pull through probably by the grace of athena, make sure to gloat like "haha yes die trash"
the only way i get anything done in this game is by the grace of athena
I get things done through sheer luck!
I get things done through half-conscious button mashing
i just booted up for the first time in ages and had apparently been in the middle of a run with zag fists and plume, so that time i survived by the grace of hermes
I get things done through half-conscious button mashing
honestly this is a massive mood
It is what it is
don't do that
you'll do a lot better if you actually focus on the game and constantly make conscious decisions
speaking from experience
at some point the encounters become so frantic and effects so excessive I just give up to comprehend
- boredom from repetitive attack patterns
I was basically the same until higher ||heat||

