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tepid vale
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weird, half the health bar is white, never seen that before

obsidian locust
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And then you realise

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"Oh its gone... Well then..."

tepid vale
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makes Merciful End look like a joke

tepid vale
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Final boss is a spoiler

urban cypress
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ugh

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im consistently getting to theseus then dying

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this is garbo

sly vigil
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one of those close call will eventually be close enough

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play around the pillar, focus one of them first (ideally the cow), use both sound and visual cue for the spear, keep upgrading mirrors, etc.

urban cypress
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i had the shield with the ricochet to different enemies thing and that just made the fight absolutely terrible lmfao

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because the standard attack sucked

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and the special would hit both so i got to the point where theseus was spamming aoe with bull still up

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amazing

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this fight really needs an HP cut

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jesus

sly vigil
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i think you should take a step back and reconsider your build. i am more than happy to give some pointers. Elysium is a bit of a damage check, but for different reasons than the bosses being too tanky.

urban cypress
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😒

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what build its a roguelike lmfao

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im taking what i can get

sly vigil
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well that's the thing, Hades is a roguelite. you can certainly force some builds by equipping god keepsakes

urban cypress
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i was practically shredding the floors with that last build

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then the poorly made boss filtered me again

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epic

sly vigil
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how is your mirror?

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what weapon do you like to use?

urban cypress
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i was just using shield because of the dark boost

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im just trying to save for that second revive

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a lot of other stuff is maxed out except the max hp bonus

sly vigil
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yeah that's good.

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if you keep upgrading the mirror eventually you will see options to "force" builds

urban cypress
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i guess

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im getting weary of this die to brick wall boss loop

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so idk if i even wanna keep grinding

sly vigil
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understandable. although you can give Lightning Strike Rail a shot.

urban cypress
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dont have it

sly vigil
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or rail with Triple Bomb, Cluster Bomb, or Rocket Bomb

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it's fairly easy to unlock?

urban cypress
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is there a weapon that deletes theseus from the game

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ill fight minotaur any day im tired of this range spamming shield having dude though

sly vigil
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yes, but not practical

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don't compare your run to this

ornate remnant
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Hahaha

sly vigil
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I am just showcasing what is possible

urban cypress
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no i mean

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actually delete him from the game files

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i dont want him existing anymore

sly vigil
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lol

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i think Theseus second phase looks very intimidating, but once you get pass it, it seems much more manageable.

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the first run is the hardest.

stark silo
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don't compare your run to this
@sly vigil what in the almighty is this

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The video i mean

tepid vale
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It's nemesis sword with five epic dash-strike boons

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and crits

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hydraulic might

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probaly heartrend and double edge

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@stark silo

stark silo
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My god

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I'm gonna screen this just in case 👀

sly vigil
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the run is routed, so basically RNG was manipulated for the largest DPS possible.

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basically near perfect run

stark silo
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That's why he always had crits
But you know i'm still gonna keep this for some day, the moveset itself must be also good

tepid vale
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it's better than the old spread fire any heat

sly vigil
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the constant crit was due to Hunter's Mark

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but this is the "hidden" part of the build

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disgusting

tepid vale
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so I was wrong about the dash-strike boons
4 epics, a heroic, a rare and a common

distant gazelle
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what the hell is that

sly vigil
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science

tepid vale
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that, my friend, is DPS

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and it's a lot of it

distant gazelle
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how can you ahve 3 times

sly vigil
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3 times what?

uneven slate
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Excruciating Lunge, and all three give +100%.

sly vigil
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chaos boons stack

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unlike normal boons

tepid vale
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I mean, getting a certain curse/boon combo doesn't prevent you from getting it again

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it's just very unlikely

uneven slate
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But then, this run was made to be very unlikely.

tepid vale
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yes

sly vigil
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correct, this run is routed. it's to showcase what's possible, def not the norm.

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here is a more reasonable TA fight, completely normal run, courtesy of yours truly

lone nacelle
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how do i improve skill more than just naturally playing

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like having nuts apm

spare marsh
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Hey, how does Triple Shot work with Hera bow?

pulsar frigate
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cast comes out of the middle arrow

sly vigil
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how do i improve skill more than just naturally playing
@lone nacelle gaining game knowledge such as synergies between boons/weapons, learning move sets of bosses
practice timing, more specifically dash i-frames timing, call i-frames timing
if you even want to go even further, learn how to utilize practice tools such as seeding, save manipulations, etc. (this is a slippery slope since it can lead to cheating but try to use it for practice purposes only)

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learn weapons unique perks such as dash strike spam on Nemesis, animation cancelation on Arthur Sword, Spear spin, etc

rain elk
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this game is fully going to my head i just beat the hydra second try and left with full health

ornate remnant
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Woohoo!

queen lagoon
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Is there a good build to go for with adamant rail? for the life of me i cant make it work

rain elk
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got to the stadium my first time ever in elysium i feel literally insane

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cheesed the hell out of every single encounter with snap nova and got a bunch of artemis and ares boons, plus the dionysus boon that gives you full health at every fountain

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like i should be mad i died to theseus and the minotaur but i got them below half on my first try im on cloud 9 right now

gray shore
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amazing job Woohoo

dusky sable
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just wanted to ask a quick question! my friend started playing hades a few days ago but they died with their first encounter with thanatos and haven't seen him since. has anyone else died during his first contest with you and seen him afterward?

obsidian locust
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Its very RNG

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He might or might not appear during runs

dusky sable
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true! i remember them patching it so the rng was a little better but i guess it's still a chance after all. thanks!

obsidian locust
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Well after maxing out his affinity, I practically see him every two runs

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Not sure if its because of the affinity though

patent cedar
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I've been seeing him once every run for the past 5-6 runs

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But it is still just down to chance unless I'm missing another factor

gray haven
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It's just RNG, but of course, you have a greater chance to see him the farther you make it in your run.

white comet
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Hi!! Do i need to do something for Demeter to appear? I've played like 10 hours and haven't meet her once, it's the only deity I'm missing

dawn berry
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you need to meet the final boss i think

white comet
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okay thanks!!

patent cedar
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Yeah she appeared for me when I confronted the final boss for the first time

spare marsh
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Yup. Once you're past the last zone, you qualify for Lady Demeter.

patent cedar
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I really like the last region

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Enemies I will very happily kill just to not deal with them again, but it's unique

native olive
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is there specific boons/weapons or whatever i should use for ||hades's second phase?|| or just get more accustomed and more upgrades to what im using

ornate remnant
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Just get more accustomed—anythingcan work for it, and || if you've gotten that far, you're doing something right ||

formal rover
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what Swan said, tho when i was starting out i did find it massively helpful to get a call that granted invincibility

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so ares, athena or poseidon

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but that’s cause i was really bad at dodging lol

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still am, tbh

gray haven
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All calls will grant some frames of invincibility upon activation.

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Actually works better for panic-i-framing than dash when you need it.

spare marsh
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Also ||Companions||, if you've got them.

native olive
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do you get that from the hearts at the bottom of the keepsake menu?

gray haven
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But yeah, the large window of invincibility from those 3 calls specifically can help a lot. Leaves more room for error.

distant gazelle
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yo guys

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which boons besides aphro are big on attack damage again

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actually

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I will read wiki or something

rain elk
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artemis is my fav for big whammy dmg

sly vigil
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which boons besides aphro are big on attack damage again
Demeter offers a sizable boost
Poseidon next I think
Artemis is the lowest among percentage boons I think, mainly because it also offers crit chance.

rain elk
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well yeah but crit dmg is fun

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i have never played a single game with meta in mind and i don't intend to start now

sly vigil
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fair enough. there is not exactly a "meta" in Hades, either. just some builds are more popular than others.

pulsar frigate
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high heat strategies says otherwise dusa

ivory ocean
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hades gets hard to play without strategy

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which is why im terrible at it

candid nimbus
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S-stra-strat.... I just flail around and hope for the best

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worked for my 19-20 heat runs zaglol

rain elk
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who needs strat when you can spam snap nova

patent cedar
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Just unlocked the rest of the mirror

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What's left for keys now, apart from trading?

candid nimbus
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I think that's about it tbh

obsidian locust
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Keys are also used to reset mirror talents, but you probably won't be doing that too often so trading is essentially the only sink left for keys

patent cedar
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resetting talents doesn't seem to be too big a deal considering there's an unlimited amount of darkness to be found

candid nimbus
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Yeah xD

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My quest to max mirror completely will take awhile

obsidian locust
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171,215 is the total darkness to unlock everything in the mirror so good luck!

candid nimbus
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I'll get there eventually

patent cedar
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Oh wow

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Just a small amount then

obsidian locust
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And then you have 33035 gems to complete the house contractor

candid nimbus
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Sounds fun.

obsidian locust
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Oh its not.

candid nimbus
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It's what you make of it

patent cedar
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Oh wow

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And getting 5-10 at a time?

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||Not to mention the diamonds||

obsidian locust
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Diamonds are a bit more balanced though

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With only 125

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Mind you these might get updated as 1.0 isn't out yet

patent cedar
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"Only"

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I jest though

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It gives me a reason to continue playing the game

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Meanwhile I still have been able to give neither nectar nor ambrosia to Achilles

obsidian locust
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Did you ||exhaust Patroculus' dialogue as well?||

patent cedar
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Not yet

obsidian locust
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That's why

patent cedar
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I had a feeling that's what i needed to do

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Though I haven't come across him as frequently today

obsidian locust
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May RNG be with you from now onward

patent cedar
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Thank you

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I wish there were a way to increase the odds of meeting him

gray haven
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which boons besides aphro are big on attack damage again
Heartbreak Strike > Deadly Strike > Divine Strike or Frost Strike > Tempest Strike.

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That's for the +% boons, anyway.

formal rover
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does deadly strike really do less than heartbreak, even when you factor in the crits?

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i mean, i’ve never done the math

sleek whale
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deadly strike common is only 20% extra with 15% chance of crits, while heartbreak is 50%

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since crits do 200% more dmg, hypothetically you do 60% dmg, that's if you get a crit

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if you look at it a crit strike is around a 1 in 6 chance of procing (only in relation to the strike, specials and all r diff), which is across 6 hits of deadlly strike will be a total of 160% extra dmg (considering only one crit strike happened)

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while in heartbreak strike its 50% from the get go, so in 6 hits you do 300% more dmg total

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also i might be mistaken but i think Aphro has a higher scaling for dmg increase through poms of power than arty

formal rover
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i think it’s actually 240%?

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6*20+100 (from the crit)?

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but either way, you’re right

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aphro comes out well ahead

sleek whale
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oh yea

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sry

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but yea

formal rover
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yeah anyway good to know, i kind of just assumed arty worked out to more damage (as there’s no status effect) and never bothered to question it

sleek whale
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but if you have something that has high rate of doing dmg (eg. fists) along with a few chaos boons boosting attack, you cant go wrong with an arty rare+ main attacks

formal rover
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good point

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also there heart rend/hunter’s mark etc. which complicate this

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but out the gate, aphro has the lead

wicked plaza
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I've been out for an update or two, but it feels like I get way fewer boons each run? Instead I feel like I'm presented nonstop rooms with Darkness, Keys, Gemstones, Poms, and Shops. Is this just me?

spare marsh
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Just confirmation bias.

sleek whale
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if you want you can use a mirror talent which increases the chance of boon and similar rooms have a higher chance of spawning

uneven slate
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The expected percentage of blue laurel (metacurrency) rooms (darkness, keys, gems, nectar) decreases over time. It is highest in Tartarus and gets lower. Especially for a new player that can't progress far yet, they are typically seen in large quantity.

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The number of shops is always the same.

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Two per biome.

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As for the Poms, it's a matter of luck. They share their pool (gold laurel rooms) with hearts, hammers and boons.

marble dock
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Just beat Hades for the first time! Gotta love the bow

tacit hill
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noooooow... Do it again, but with more suffering.

gray haven
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but if you have something that has high rate of doing dmg (eg. fists) along with a few chaos boons boosting attack, you cant go wrong with an arty rare+ main attacks
Attack speed is not a factor for whether crits are good or not.

sleek whale
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i know but for me i believe smtg that fas fire rate, allows more crits to be done so higher dmg in a shorter amount of time

gray haven
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It averages out, though.

sleek whale
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well it all comes down to rng in the end

tepid vale
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attack speed is a factor if you have hunter's mark

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the sooner you crit, the sooner you crit even moar

patent cedar
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My lambent plume seems to be stuck at 19% this run

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Is there a cap I don't know about?

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I've definitely cleared at least a couple rooms quickly enough to gain more

uneven slate
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There is no cap, and people have been getting over 30% bonus with the plume before.

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Are you in the Satyr tunnels, by any chance?

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Because the plume won't trigger in the small rooms, but only in the end rooms.

patent cedar
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Ah OK

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I was also using it in Elysium and I swear some of those rooms I cleared quickly enough

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Guess I'm stuck at 19 for the time being

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I do also have an extra 30% from greater haste so it's still good

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I also didn't know the sack could be in the stronger rooms

uneven slate
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Did you see/hear the plume effects when clearing those rooms, but the value stayed the same? Then you should f10 it.

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I never take an elite tunnel first in order to increase the chance of skipping an elite middle management fight.

patent cedar
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I have heard a noise when clearing some rooms but wasn't too sure what it was

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I always do the normal tunnels first

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And now I only have the final elite tunnel to explore and it gives me a pom, so might as well

uneven slate
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That "might as well" sometimes bites you when a Tiny Vermin happens to be hiding in there.

tacit hill
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Tiny vermin is not that hard tbh.

patent cedar
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Tiny vermin being the little rats coming out of the ground?

civic needle
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Oh, no, no, you'll know Tiny Vermin when you meet them.

patent cedar
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Hmm

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That's concerning

candid nimbus
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Just gotta show it who is boss shadesmile

jovial stump
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Does dash attack trigger an attack penalty? Currently running Zag Shield w/ Aphro's attack and Art's dash as my main damage.

tepid vale
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attack penalty as in chaos curses?

jovial stump
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yep

tepid vale
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yes, dash-strikes trigger them

jovial stump
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Each time you attack get hit for -4. I noticed a previous Chaos gave me dmg specifically to dash attacks so I wasn't sure

tepid vale
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are you sure it didn't reduce dash distance?

jovial stump
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Meant the benefit gave me dmg to dash attack

tepid vale
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ah

jovial stump
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Atrophic Lunge: Your Dash-Strike deals +81% dmg

tepid vale
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curses and buffs are entirely unrelated honestly

jovial stump
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gotcha. appreciate the help

daring igloo
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Hello? I found a little bug, but I don't know where I said this...

tepid vale
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do we get to know about the bug, or were you just asking how to report it?

daring igloo
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I wanna how to report.

tepid vale
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just hit F10 ingame

daring igloo
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I use Ingame report, but It has error.

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F10 can't upload my screenshot with bug scene...

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but, I can write the situation

jolly hill
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does the court music stand do anything story wise or is it just music player

tepid vale
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It's just music

jolly hill
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aspect of luci worth unlocking for a newer player? i enjoyed adamant rail a fair bit with zeus and stuff

ornate remnant
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It's fun

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A bit tricky to use though, especially on controller

patent cedar
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I want that legendary fishing boon from Poseidon again shadegrief

ornate remnant
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You need to get his two resource boons as pre-reqs :S

patent cedar
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Which boons?

spare marsh
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Sunken Treasure and Ocean's Bounty.

patent cedar
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Ah OK

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So I have to get both of those in one run and I'll get the fishing boon in the next?

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Also how does rushed delivery work?

tepid vale
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So I have to get both of those in one run and I'll get the fishing boon in the next?
@patent cedar getting the prereqs for a boon does't guarantee that you'll receive it

patent cedar
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Is that generally how it works though?

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Given that RNG work in my favour

tepid vale
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you get if you're lucky, yeah

patent cedar
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OK cool

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That's interesting

jovial stump
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Question regarding God Boon kepsakes that promise the next one to be theirs. Grabbed Zues's going into the 3rd area and my first options are either his or hammer... So two question

  1. Do hammers reappear if you skip them?
  2. My keepsake has a timer below it at one. Will it work for the next room or am I boned if I don't take Zues now?
tepid vale
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your keepsake charge is used when you receive a boon from the god that gave it to you

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so if you pick a hammer or a differentgod, it will continue guaranteeing that zeus is offered to you

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and hammers can reappear but it's not guaranteed

jovial stump
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sweet, glad to hear it. Thanks again for the help

vital pond
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Is here where to ask about skellys prizes???

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Because I have no idea what they mean or how to get them or anything about them at all

ornate remnant
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@vital pond || look in the bottom right of the courtyard ||

vital pond
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Okay thank you

patent cedar
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Why can I never meet the third NPC anymore shadegrief

vast oxide
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hey, is there a reason random weapons glow purple sometimes?

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i know it gives more darkness but its completely random lol

ornate remnant
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It's totally random

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It changes every time you do a run

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There isn't really a reason for it (in terms of the story), that I know of

vast oxide
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ah

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got it thanks

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also does the shield only have one attack

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it doesnt seem to combo or anything like the sword

ornate remnant
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Press and hold, otherwise no other attack

vast oxide
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yeah thats odd

ornate remnant
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Yup

patent cedar
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The special is cool though

vast oxide
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bruh

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second time killing meg

ornate remnant
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Nice!

vast oxide
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the shield block is nasty

ornate remnant
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Yup

vast oxide
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i get so confused at muspelheim

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idk what is lava and what is floor

ornate remnant
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Muspelheim, what language is that? (I know what region you're referring to, don't worry)

vast oxide
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wait

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i confused mythologies

ornate remnant
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Lol

vast oxide
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muspelheim is fire realm of norse mythology

ornate remnant
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To be fair, this version of Asphodel doesn't match the original Greek Asphodel

vast oxide
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all my information on mythology comes from god of war

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tbh

ornate remnant
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And yeah, was wondering if that meant anything different or was just referencing the Norse

vast oxide
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does death defiance revive you like that skeleton dudes passive

ornate remnant
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Yup

vast oxide
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store wont let me buy it

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weird

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is it because i used the skeleton dudes passive already

ornate remnant
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You probably don't have an empty slot for it?

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Or not enough Obol

vast oxide
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got the coins for it

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oh well just gonna buy darkness

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does fire place have shops

ornate remnant
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Do you have a little circle in the bottom left, above your health?

And yes

vast oxide
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i dont

ornate remnant
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Then that's why you couldn't buy the Death Defiance—though it actually shouldn't've shown up, so if you haven't already left that room

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Might want to hit f10 to report that, sounds like a bug

vast oxide
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bet

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how many floors is lava place

ornate remnant
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Ends up being shorter than Tartarus, usually

vast oxide
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diamond is a boss right

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oh damn

ornate remnant
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Yup zaglol

marble vigil
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Hi! Noob question, everytime i pass an stage, i see how the i "climb" the mountain, and i see some blood, diamons, that i never get, where are they if I passed the place where they are? Sorry, my english ><

shadow night
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If you have already cleared the place once, you will not be able to get them again unless playing on higher difficulty or with a different weapon 🙂

marble vigil
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oh... i see

vast oxide
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what does stubborn reliance do?

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defiance*

uneven slate
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You can be revived once every chamber.

vast oxide
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jesus thats op

uneven slate
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There is a downside: In boss fights, you will have one revive only as well. Compared with Death Defiance, which gives you a lot of effective HP, you will have to contend with less margin for error.

vast oxide
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wich one should i get

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i got 500 darkness spare

uneven slate
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So if you deal easily with mobs and struggle with bosses, stick with Death Defiance.

vast oxide
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yup thats me

uneven slate
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At the early stages of the game, that's most likely the case.

vast oxide
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dont understand what death defiance really does though

uneven slate
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Stubborn Defiance becomes a lot more valuable when the difficulty is increased.

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Death Defiance is an extra life.

vast oxide
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ngl the ingame explanations for some upgrades are pretty bad

uneven slate
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When you hit zero hp, you will be revived with half hp and expend a death defiance.

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You can have up to three, and there are means to refresh them during a run.

vast oxide
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so stubborn defiance gives you revive every chamber

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and death defiance gives you stackable revives

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did i get that right

uneven slate
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Yes.

vast oxide
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yeah ill buy death defiance

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from my understanding i have 2 revives before death now, with lucky tooth

uneven slate
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Those should hold out pretty far for a start. Enough for at least one boss fight.

vast oxide
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yeah

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whats a fated choice

uneven slate
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Where does that term come up?

vast oxide
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boon selections

wide shore
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it means it is one of the items from the Fated List of Minor Prophecies. something you haven't picked yet in any prior runs

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unlocking options from the Fated List will often reward you with bonus resources, so it's early on a good way of getting some extra darkness or gems or the like

vast oxide
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hmm nice

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it seems like i dont get blood from meg anymore

wide shore
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If you have already cleared the place once, you will not be able to get them again unless playing on higher difficulty or with a different weapon 🙂
that questions was recently addressed by someone else, so I'll just quote that xD

vast oxide
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oh thanks

uneven slate
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Until you've beaten a run, you can get a maximum of 6 from her (or her sisters), everything else will open up after your first win.

vast oxide
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i wish i didnt spend 2 on the sword lol

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wtf is that snake

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almost killed it man

candid nimbus
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Yeah it does that x.x

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v1.0 trailer is the mood

jovial stump
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Not sure where to ask this but is there an obvious tell regarding ||which choice in the temple has Cerberus's bag||? I'm exhausted after dancing around on no health nor defiances and it ended up being the last room.

dawn berry
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There's no tell

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just gotta pray to the gods

formal rover
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yeah its completely random

obsidian locust
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It will never be the first one though

jovial stump
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Do alter rolls on resource rooms ever become boons?
Can't tell if I'm wasting them on resource rooms or I should be rerolling for a specific god.

obsidian locust
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I think rerolling the blue laurels just roll from that pool

sand bridge
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Darkness/gems/keys/nectar will reroll into darkness/gems/keys/nectar

obsidian locust
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So technically I think it would be a waste of time

jovial stump
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Ouch, that makes sense.
Which golden laurel do you prefer to reroll? My gut says obol rewards though golden touch makes that harder.

formal rover
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gold is generally lowest priority for me, yeah, since anything you could get is worth more than 100 gold

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except poms i guess

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but really idk, as i usually run ||fated persuasion not fated authority||

lyric forge
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Health is another candidate, if you happen to already have enough. You mostly don't need more than four pickups total over a run.

formal rover
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and keys ofc

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i used to always reroll them when i had the option

vast oxide
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first time on elysium

ornate remnant
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Woohoo!!

obsidian locust
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All the best!

tepid wren
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Good luck, enemies will keep an eye on you 👁️

tall canyon
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Any tips for new player?

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I’m starting and died to the first boss

spare marsh
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Keep practicing. At this point, you just need to get patterns down.

fickle sentinel
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yeah once you learn the pattern it becomes easy

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Athena's boons are very useful to avoid and deflect damage, I would consider taking them

tall canyon
#

Thanks! Btw controller or mouse + Keyboard?

obsidian locust
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I'm more of a KBM person, but thats because I'm used to it

spare marsh
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I use mouse and keyboard, personally. But it comes down to taste.

fickle sentinel
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Same

obsidian locust
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Or you could be weird like @tepid vale and use both

tall canyon
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Then will try to adapt to KBM. My controller has some weird drift issues.

obsidian locust
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Great! Hope you enjoy your day/night in hell!

ornate remnant
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Good luck! ^.^ I've found that I prefer KBM because I prefer to have more fine control over my aiming, while Controller gives more fine control over movement

tall canyon
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So far I’m enjoying it a lot. One of my favorite games is Dead Cells and this game is ‘similar’

tepid vale
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Good luck! ^.^ I've found that I prefer KBM because I prefer to have more fine control over my aiming, while Controller gives more fine control over movement
@ornate remnant
Or you could be weird like @tepid vale and use both

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imagine the Value of that level of accuracy

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fine movement and fine aim at the same time? yes please

mint relic
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Me too!!!!

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you're the first other person I've seen who doesn't think that's super weird

vast oxide
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why am i being attacked by butterflies

mint relic
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@tepid vale what are your binds?

tepid vale
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LB to dash, LT to interact, stick click to call
LBM for attacks, RBM for cast. special and summon are on thumb buttons

obsidian locust
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@vast oxide Welcome to Elysium dusa

vast oxide
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i thought elysium would be fun

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but i got demolished by weird men with swords

tepid vale
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getting demolished by weird men with swords isn't fun?

vast oxide
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when i think about it

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its pretty fun

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should i be using the diamond i got for house contractor?

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does it have another purpose

spare marsh
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I'm pretty sure that every use of the diamonds comes from the house contractor, one way or another.

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But more options will come over time, so if it's just for cosmetics, you can save them.

vast oxide
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its something about saving some dude

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morpheus?

spare marsh
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Orpheus.

tepid vale
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if you can buy out a contract, do it

spare marsh
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Yeah, worthy use of it.

vast oxide
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ill use it then

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morpheus

tepid vale
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those are story events, and I think all of them have huge mechanical benefits eventually

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morpheus is the god of being cool in the matrix
not the court musician of Hades

vast oxide
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i think morpheus is the god of sleeping or something

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so what does edgy singing lady do

spare marsh
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Eurydice?

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She sings and cooks food.

vast oxide
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nono

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orpheus

tepid vale
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Orpheus is a man

spare marsh
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Orpheus is a guy.

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He sings and is depressed.

vast oxide
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i thought the sleep dude was a girl too

spare marsh
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Hypnos is also a guy. But don't let them get you down.

vast oxide
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i was less suprised to hear that loader from risk of rain is a girl than sleep dude being a dude

vivid crane
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Morpheus is the male god of dreams and brother to Hypnos, not in the game

Hypnos is the male god of sleep and quite obviously in the game.

Orpheus was a mortal musician, also male, and also in the game

patent cedar
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Another trip through Elysium without seeing the good old NPC

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This is sad

candid nimbus
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RNG being mean

patent cedar
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Very mean

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Must have been about 10 escape attempts without seeing him

candid nimbus
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Happens, just gotta keep rolling with it

patent cedar
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Maybe this time

candid nimbus
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Fingers crossed

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You'll run into em eventually

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He's a bit of a loner

patent cedar
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I did just run into him so

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Something worked

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I couldn't give him as nectar again though, but progress in the story is always good

candid nimbus
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Do you know his name?

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oh I guess you would if you gave nectar before

patent cedar
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Yeah I just don't want to say it in case someone might see it as a spoiler or something

candid nimbus
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Oh well, congrats on meeting him again!

patent cedar
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Thank you

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It's surprisingly tough

candid nimbus
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Yeah, RNG is fun- I can go a few streaks and never run into any npc and then I'm meeting them everyotherrun xD

patent cedar
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Yeah this particular run I found all 3 after having seen none at all for a good while

leaden whale
#

I must say I am utterly smitten by this game

leaden whale
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Elysium seems quite a bit more difficult than the previous zones

#

I

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It filtered an emote

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omfg

jolly hill
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How does one unlock more of the story (and other things)

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Just giving ambrosia willy nilly?

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Or is it better to focus giving to a couple characters at a time

ornate remnant
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@jolly hill Giving everyone Nectar, pretty much. And then Ambrosia when you can.

warm ravine
#

This game is really cool,but why does it sometimes have no sound?Is it a BUG?

ornate remnant
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Yup, hit f10 in-game to report it

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@warm ravine

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And restarting the game will usually fix it

warm ravine
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OK,I will do that.Thanks

ornate remnant
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Sure thing! Good luck with your run ^.^

formal rover
#

going into the pause menu and back out usually fixes the sound thing for me, so you might not have to restart the game

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but i haven't had that bug in a while so ymmv

ornate remnant
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ymmv?

formal rover
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your mileage may vary

ornate remnant
#

Ahh

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Neat

jolly hill
#

what does spoiler shield do

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is it really just the extra aoe

ornate remnant
#

|| 4th aspects are spoilers || and kinda, it also || changes some casts like Demeter's to be AoEs ||

jolly hill
#

ah

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thanks

ornate remnant
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👍 friendly

jolly hill
#

does the 2nd boon in a trial of the gods have a higher chance of higher rarity

ornate remnant
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Nope

patent cedar
#

“I’ll just play a little bit of Hades before going to sleep”

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212 minutes this session

vast oxide
#

is there a way i can keep track of wich weapons i got titan blood with

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because i cant remember

cloud orchid
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you will be able to, after you clear the game for the first time

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if you mean just the first blood from act 1, then I don't know of one

vast oxide
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act 1?

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also who tf weird lady

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where is meg

spare marsh
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I'm sure she'll tell you.

vast oxide
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i miss meg now

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lol i killed the other sis

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is it just me or is bow very boring

patent cedar
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I liked bow

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I just took a lot of damage using it because I’m too reliant on the shield now

vast oxide
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im fist/sword/shield

candid nimbus
#

bow and spear are the weapons I'm weakest with

patent cedar
#

I wasn’t too bad with spear but I did also take a lot of damage with that

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I had a pretty hard time aiming with the bow

patent cedar
#

Is there a noise queue or something when there's a fishing point?

vast oxide
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beaten all the furies

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ez pz

patent cedar
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Oh I got the huge catch boon...

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At the last stage

cloud adder
#

there's a sound that plays and sometimes before leaving a chamber zag will say s/t like 'looks like there's fish to catch' (i don't remember exactly because i am always zooming STRAIGHT to the fishing point)

formal rover
#

yeah its like a high pitched bell tone, plays straight after you pick up your boon iirc

leaden whale
#

Does thanatos only have a chance to spawn after a certain part of the story is completed or something?

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Cause I ain’t never seen his ass

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Oh my god

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That filter ruins my emote usage

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I’m sorry mods

vast oxide
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i dont know what the boss of elysium is...gonna fight it now

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25m run

patent cedar
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Good luck with that boss

vast oxide
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oh god

patent cedar
#

I figured there was a sound queue because I sometimes heard something on entering a room and there would be a fishing point

vast oxide
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dude with spear and boar with axe

patent cedar
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But that was only when I had the fishing boon

vast oxide
#

this fight is pretty hard ngl

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yup i died

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my best run so far though

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oh well

wide shore
#

||which of the two did you target first?||

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(don't want to spoiler stuff for other players too much, so I'll just put anything regarding that fight in spoiler tags 🙂)

patent cedar
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Don't worry, I died a couple times against them

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Even died twice after having beaten them previously

raw sleet
#

hi ! quick question: what does the After Party boon do exactly ?

wide shore
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After Party can give you a health restore at the end of the chamber if your below the health threshold (I'm not entirely sure what the threshold is, though) and will you up TO that.

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so if you're not taking damage in encounters it won't help you a lot, but if you tend to get rather low and are in danger of dying constantly, it's a nice option to have

patent cedar
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I think threshold for common is like 30%?

raw sleet
#

hmm i see

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thank you!

vast oxide
#

(don't want to spoiler stuff for other players too much, so I'll just put anything regarding that fight in spoiler tags 🙂)
@wide shore bull dude

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i got him at his quarter health and the other dude at half

wide shore
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||kaykay, as I understand it that's the common "tactic" or at least what worked best for me at the start. Concentrate on him first, kill him first and then switch focus^^ and try not to get Theseus to his second phase too soon, because it will be harder to dodge both of them at the same time at that point||

vast oxide
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||aight, i hate how the bull charges at you for a long time though thats so annoying||

wide shore
#

||tip for that: dash through the pillars and have him run against them ;)||

patent cedar
#

Pretty much that

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And when it comes to second phase just hope you don't get a mean one

raw sleet
#

oh i've been having trouble with this fight too

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im thinking about turning on god mode just to see if i could last longer 😭

pulsar frigate
#

there's no shame in turning it on!

wide shore
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no shame in doing that, ever x) you're supposed to have fun in the game after all x)

patent cedar
#

I have god mode on, it’s really useful

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Especially when I just want to get the damn story from our friend in Elysium -_-

vast oxide
#

secod try for the boar and arrow dude

candid nimbus
#

Good luck!

vast oxide
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ty, im pretty op rn

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it will be a good fight i hope

candid nimbus
#

ezpz you got this

vast oxide
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i killed bull dude

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yessss

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bow dude next

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I DID IT

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YAY

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lol 3 health

candid nimbus
#

Congrats! Good luck in next area

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You got this!

vast oxide
#

i was scared i was gonna fighr cerberus at first lol

candid nimbus
#

He's too good of a boi

vast oxide
#

||fighting hades||

wide shore
#

please put that in spoiler tags x)

tepid tide
#

@vast oxide spoiler tags please

vast oxide
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||where does the chamber left of hades lead?||

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||and whats that reward i get from killing the 2 heroes do||

ornate remnant
#

@vast oxide || which chamber? ||
|| You'll be able to give it to people ||

vast oxide
#

/spoiler the hall right to achilles

ornate remnant
#

/spoiler doesn't work on mobile

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Anyway, || nothing, yet. We think it's Hades' room, but it's not unlocked yet ||

wide shore
#

you can put "||" before and after the message to make it a spoiler^^

vast oxide
#

lol i always check that room after every escape attempt

dusky crane
#

how do i get more titan blood? i read a few things on it and it seems like i need to beat the game if I've already beaten meg with every weapon?

patent cedar
#

I guess just focus on getting through the game now

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You'll find a way after

dusky crane
#

i dont want spoilers but, how many levels are there?

pulsar frigate
#

||4||

dusky crane
#

cool

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i just cant get past Elysium

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the god damn mintaur

patent cedar
#

He's easy enough to deal with provided you can dodge the other guy

ebon kelp
#

@dusky crane Tip: ||Get into the habit of dashing through him, rather than trying to dash to the side.||

dusky crane
#

i ussually end up beating him actually hes just annoying. the guy thats an actual issue is theseus

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i ended up just thobbing aoe casts at him for 5 minutes

jovial stump
#

Does ||shield have knockback|| on every strike? Got ||Sea Storm|| and can't tell if it's consistent.

ornate remnant
#

@jovial stump || Sea Storm only triggers on attacks that use Tempest boons ||

jovial stump
#

Womp womp.... ty

spare marsh
#

You do get benefit from the boon that buffs wall slams though.

jolly hill
#

is there a meaning in the very bright glow for boons in the maze

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is it higher rarity ones? or do boons just glow like that

#

berry bright

sand bridge
#

miniboss rooms have better rewards, so yeah, the glow symbolizes that

#

for boons it's higher rarity, for poms it's +2 levels, for hearts it's +50 max health, for obols it's 200 obols.

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though the glow does appear way too bright, lol

jolly hill
#

oh it wasnt permanently like that

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i just took a screenshot of glow at its peak

dusky crane
#

how do most people play this game? i stream it for my friends often and some them kinda criticize me because i dash a lot and play very aggressive

rain elk
#

oh that's how i play lol, constant dashing and bashing

dusky crane
#

except for bosses, i wait for opportunities for them i dont just rush in

rain elk
#

my dad's more careful about it, he likes using the bow a lot and lining up his shots but i just run in with the shield and dash around the room

dusky crane
#

bow is cool, i used the bow in a few runs

#

but im used to gauntlets, sword or spear so i still play bow very aggressive which just aint how it should be played

#

what i ussually did is just spam special and spread doom or hangover until everything dies

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the one time i did find i think a deadalus buff or something that made me rapid fire by bow instead of charge shot

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i liked that a lot

tepid vale
#

but im used to gauntlets, sword or spear so i still play bow very aggressive which just aint how it should be played
you can play bow however you want
charged volley with a high damage special boon turns your bow into a shotgun
twin shot and explosive shot together is basically a melee build

jolly hill
civic needle
#

You've progressed this relationship as far as you can in Early Access at this point, and will need to wait for further updates to progress it further. for the first one.

#

For the second one, you need to meet a certain condition in order to continue to unlock hearts. It usually just involves continuing to interact with that character.

jolly hill
#

ah

leaden whale
#

I feel like unless I use the bow I am incapable of not taking damage

#

gonna have fun beating the game with every weapon

cerulean cove
#

Ji

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Hi*

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What's the difference between the early Access and the tech beta?

uneven slate
#

Early Access means that the game isn't released in its full form yet. The tech beta was a temporary beta to test the new enginge. Currently, all players have the same regular, early access content.

pulsar frigate
#

the tech beta was a one time thing for before this update, because this update was an unusually unstable one and sgg didn’t want players’ saves to get messed up accidentally

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so they used the tech beta and its volunteers to fix up the update before its release

lone nacelle
#

how do i progress the sisypus quest

#

i have the locked heart but idk if i need to talk to him or meg or than next

ornate remnant
#

@lone nacelle || you need to talk to several people—Meg, Sisy, and Nyx ||

formal rover
#

also ||bouldy||

tepid vale
#

The quest will all be worth it when you get that ambiguity bonus

formal rover
#

truth

rancid mural
#

hey, i was watching gameplay of hades which made me want to buy it but they were using a controller and now im semi concerned about keyboard and mouse. could anyone tell me whether it plays well on keyboard and mouse still?

tepid vale
#

it works on keyboard and mouse. In fact, if you value being able to aim, it works significantly better on keyboard and mouse

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or you can be really cool and hold the controller in your left hand and the mouse in your right

rancid mural
#

oh okay sick!

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thank you

mint relic
#

controller + mouse is best controls

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especially for bow/gun

ornate remnant
#

The actual best one is keyboard + controller

tepid vale
#

wasd abxy 👌

mint relic
#

terrible

ornate remnant
#

Wait you have A in there twice, that's illegal

loud adder
#

Transmitting feedback at the same time

tepid vale
#

8-directional movement and no aiming capabilities is my jam

ruby edge
#

The enemies in elysium hurt me physically and mentally shadegrief

near vale
#

But mostly virtually

ruby edge
#

equally 🙃

leaden whale
#

The Temple is throwing me for a loop

candid nimbus
#

The rats do surprisingly amounts of damage shadegrief

#

You got this though!

vast oxide
#

what'd you say is the best keepsake

formal rover
#

it’s less about best and more about what you need at the time; generally you’ll want to switch out between each zone unless you’re doing a butterfly/plume run

#

my rough formula is:
Tartarus: a god keepsake to get my build started
Asphodel: another god or coin purse if i don’t need anything specific
Elysium: whatever of the above i haven’t taken yet, or bone hourglass
Styx: lucky tooth (tho a lot of people use the acorn)

tribal jewel
#

hey everyone im new to hades and i just wanted to ask, does the dash have invincibility frames? so i can dash inside the enemy attacks and still not get hit?

formal rover
#

dashing does, dash attacking does not

spare marsh
#

It does have I frames.

#

If you attack during the dash, you lose the i frames.

jovial stump
#

Is there a reason that "Give Up" does not generate a new seed? I would understand the argument that it allows you to retry a failed attempt or it screws with the run / resources counter, but the whole thing feels strange to go back in with perfect knowledge.

#

You're forced to find a trap if you want to have a new experience.

dawn berry
#

a lot of things wont be the same because even simple actions change things, it's not 'perfect knowledge'

#

you do start with same/similar stuff but as it goes on it wont be the same unless you make an effort to do what you did before afaik

pulsar frigate
#

i'd rather have a functionality that keeps a seed than not

#

would make even minor routing difficult

jovial stump
#

Noted. Will note a positive of the current "Give Up" is that it allows you to test different aspects without committing blood. It currently resets to when you first entered the weapons room.

pulsar frigate
#

like, if i start a new run and there's an epic cast in the first boon, i can simply give up and switch to a different weapon/keepsake

formal rover
#

wait if you switch to a different god keepsake will the epic cast still be there?

pulsar frigate
#

yes

jovial stump
#

will still be there

formal rover
#

huh

#

that’s neat

jovial stump
#

Also works if you don't like the hammer upgrade for your current weapon. Can switch and see what it gives to something else.

pulsar frigate
#

and just wanting a retry on a run with a good seed is good as well. if i ever need a new seed, dying isn't much of an inconvenience

jovial stump
#

True. I would have thought ||Administrative Privileges|| would record the seed for past attempts and give you a form to enter a new one.

spare marsh
#

Also if I pick the wrong keepsake to start, give up doesn't kill my streak because of that functionality.

#

So that's nice.

umbral plinth
#

What are the delta chamber and the infinity chamber? I see them mentioned in #hades-feedback but I can't figure out at they are

ornate remnant
#

They're Hammer Upgrades for || Exagryph ||, one of the weapons

umbral plinth
#

Oh they aren't rooms lol

ornate remnant
#

nope

umbral plinth
#

Thanks!

ornate remnant
#

Sure thing ^.^

little sorrel
#

I did it

abstract flare
#

Quick question, when does "increase on undamaged enemies" actually work

#

Like, do they still take the increased damage after hitting Damage Control hearts or not

formal rover
#

damage control hearts don't count, so it'll be the first hit after they're down

abstract flare
#

Ok good to know

#

Ty!

tulip talon
#

hello guys does hell mode have new features that normal mode doesnt?

uneven slate
#

It has a few pacts (difficulty modifiers) active from the start, among them a unique one (Personal Liability), and forces the player to gradually increase difficulty.

patent cedar
#

My boyfriend, knowing nothing about the game, decided to jump in on hell mode

#

Seems to enjoy it enough though

jolly cradle
#

where can I post about a bug? nothing serious its just a text visual bug.

faint umbra
#

press F10 in game

jolly cradle
#

that crashes the game for me everytime for some reason

uneven slate
#

The game will be on hold as long as the bug reporter is open. Alt-Tab into the bug reporter if needed. After clicking the thank you message, the game should unpause.

pulsar frigate
#

and forces the player to gradually increase difficulty
this was actually changed and isn’t forced anymore

vast oxide
#

just finished the game!

#

||the weird stoned dude at the start said that someone else came from the blood pool we respawn at, whats up with that?||

dawn berry
#

||that's hypnos, and hades came from that pool just like you do since he died||

vast oxide
#

||i guess that makes sense, does he really not remember or pretends to?||

dawn berry
#

||i don't remember it, maybe he was asleep, and the list he has probably says something like 'redacted' like when you're killed by him||

tepid vale
#

||it's not that he doesn't remember, he just doesn't care who it was, other than the fact that it wasn't Zag||
||and you probably wouldn't be willing to talk openly about your lord and master being murked by your brother, either.||

vast oxide
#

||got it, i like how the "narrator" dude just said lets pretend dad demolished you for now||

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also i just unlocked || pack of punishment || , but i really couldnt figure out what it does

tepid vale
#

||it lets you get more titan blood, diamonds, and ambrosia, and also makes the game harder if you want it to||

vast oxide
#

bro i made the heat gauge cry 😔

#

do we have a date for 1.0 btw

tepid vale
#

no. Just fall

vast oxide
#

this fall? nice

tepid vale
#

yeah, this fall, specifically

opaque hemlock
#

Fall is right around the corner tho

vast oxide
#

indeed

opaque hemlock
#

We just have to be patient

vast oxide
#

shouldnt be that hard

white comet
#

Is there any house contractor guide? To know which stuff should i buy and/or ignore

tepid vale
#

buy all of it

ornate remnant
#

not a listed one, but || you want to get the "Renovations" first, the ones that improve your runs mechanically. Fountains and Gold Urns are really important||

tepid vale
#

grind gems for hundreds of hours

#

and buy everything

obsidian locust
#

@tepid vale don't scare the poor dude

tepid vale
#

grinding for hundreds of hours is fun, but entirely optional

gray haven
#

Grind hours for hundreds of gems.

tepid vale
#

hmmm

obsidian locust
#

Scary but fun

tepid vale
#

we don't want hundreds of gems

#

we want thousands

#

and we want a lot of thousands

half gazelle
#

alright so, i finally got to the end boss and died about halfway through. i seem to get further with the fists than anything else but i feel like i'm getting gimpy boons and such since i dont really know who to pick

tepid vale
#

@gray haven help this man

#

basically, you want divine strike, divine dash, or both

thorn shore
#

i feel like divine dash is much more useful than divine strike

tepid vale
#

if you have divine dash, get ares attack and go for merciful end

thorn shore
#

i've done both high heat and speedruns with the fists and i struggle hard without divine dash

half gazelle
#

for fists? Is there a meta weapon / aspect most people use for more consistent runs?

obsidian locust
#

Literally anything works

tepid vale
#

zag aspect is usually a lot better

thorn shore
#

i think people generally go for either zeus or ares attack

half gazelle
#

is there a god symbol graphic out there?

gray haven
#

Divine Strike usually works better for me than Divine Dash. They're both good, anyway.

#

Divine Strike, Curse of Agony, or Lightning Strike is definitely the meta.

#

For Divine Strike, both Hunter Dash and Divine Dash are great.

#

For the other two, you usually want Divine Dash.

half gazelle
#

which god gives those

gray haven
#

All the aspects can do a lot of work. Talos Aspect is the most difficult to use, though, but the potential is there.

#

Divine is always Lady Athena.

half gazelle
#

shes the gold circle yeah?

gray haven
#

Curse is always Lord Ares. Lightning is always Lord Zeus. And Hunter is Lady Artemis.

#

The golden shield, yes.

half gazelle
#

sweet, doing a shield run atm to try to get some titan blood i think

#

got hunter dash, will look for athena if i can find her

gray haven
#

Well, those comments were about Malphon.

half gazelle
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What is malphon?

uneven slate
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The fists.

half gazelle
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ahh gotcha

abstract flare
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First time trying approval process, after losing Second Wave and jolted twice I think it's safe to say I'm not touching this again until 30+ heat

uneven vault
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hello
i just beat the game for the first time. what do the little gold icons indicate next to the skills at the victory screen?

bold apex
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They're pins - you can pin/unpin boons to showcase your build in the victory screenshot

uneven vault
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oh i see

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ty

half gazelle
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alright so, im tryna clear the run here in a minute, haven't but i think ive got a pretty decent build this run. ran into this thing, what is it?

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nvm cant post pics.

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its an anvil that is -1 hammer +2 random hammer

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not sure i should click it

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@gray haven

ornate remnant
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@half gazelle || final boss name is a spoiler please tag your message ||

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And you can post pics with imgur links

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|| what you found is the Anvil, it will randomly remove one hammer and randomly add two ||

half gazelle
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ima dm you rq

lone nacelle
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how do i unlock rama?

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ive spent far more than 5 blood on the wep

candid nimbus
rocky quartz
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How does temple of styx work for counting keepsake encounters? Ie. For the butterfly, must you not take damage all 5+ chambers then it is counted? Likewise with the plume? Doesn't seem to work by chamber and i keep taking damage in the big room.

placid tinsel
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For butterfly and plume only last chambers count, you can take damage in smaller ones

tepid vale
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for anything else they all count

rocky quartz
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thanks

patent cedar
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I am cursed to never find the death defiance recharge in the well when I can actually afford it

candid nimbus
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Happens, one of the mirror upgrades lets you reroll wells

patent cedar
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Happened again

candid nimbus
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RNG is an interesting one

amber magnet
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Is there a reason I can't give Meg nectar after she talks to someone and then goes off alone to the lounge, but can give it to other people? There's been a few times now where I load in, and she's talking to some one (Hades, Dusa, etc), and then when I leave the room and come back in I can give nectar to whomever she was talking to, but never can give it to her...And she's almost ALWAYS talking to someone, so pretty much never have the opportunity to give any to her

candid nimbus
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Only reason I can think of is something with where you're at with the dialogue, but I'm not quite sure.... been too long since I was doing dialogue x.x

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I wonder if that's a bug actually

tepid vale
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it's just bad luck

candid nimbus
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Oh is that an actual intended thing?*

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I remember just saying it was bad luck when I had to do it, but I had time to spare

tepid vale
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yeah
you're not exactly supposed to get shafted by not being able to gift them, but it is a natural result of dialogue rng.

candid nimbus
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Maybe a feedback point?

amber magnet
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Ah, well that stinks... I figured it was something unintended since I could gift everyone else after talking.

Whelp, time for to hope she's alone from now on! Or spawns in general haha

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Thanks for the help!

vernal sky
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Sometimes Meg doesn’t give a hoot about Zag, that’s what I chalked it up to

amber magnet
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Kinda annoying since after 26 escape attempts I've seen her alone like 3 times but oh well! I'll live haha

candid nimbus
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Good luck!

leaden whale
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Is Thanatos supposed to peace out as soon as his event finishes?

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Used to be able to talk to him / gift him but now he’s like. bye

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And then back at home he is talking to someone else so I can’t do anything but listen

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He is playing hard to get I stg

loud adder
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He just disappears if you don't kill more enemies than him during the encounter iirc

tepid vale
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he usually just leaves (after dropping a reward if you beat him), but does stick around for a few story events.

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as far as conversations at the house go, it's just bad luck if you can't talk to/gift him

candid nimbus
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A lot of things are bad luck, but Than is also shy/busy zaglol

obsidian locust
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Not much free time on your hands when your the literal incarnate of death

spare ledge
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who do i gift nectar for the companions? I only have skelly after like 30+ clears lol

marsh ether
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For most of them you have to complete a quest first, then you can give them Ambrosia for the companion

spare ledge
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whats a quest, like prophecies?

obsidian locust
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Kinda like it?

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I mean some of them do have an active prophecy while some dont

marsh ether
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Kinda. They'll ask something to do, mostly buying a special thing from the contractor

spare ledge
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i just unlocked the release orpheus thing and bought the contract for 3 diamonds, is that for a companion

marsh ether
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That's the one thing that doesn't lead to one, but it's things like those

obsidian locust
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If you want to know who are the people here is the list:
||Megaera||
||Skelly||
||Achillies and Patroculus||
||Sysiphus||
||Thanatos||
||Dusa||

spare ledge
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ah nice

marsh ether
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You need to have Nyx at the locked heart point for some of these to unlock

spare ledge
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does any of the text before and after games mean anything? cant remember any examples rn

marsh ether
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It's just lore

spare ledge
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o

marsh ether
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Very juicy lore.

spare ledge
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i just find it weird that one randomw word is shown like "Breeze" or something

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never understood that

marsh ether
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Yeah, that's just the narrator saying that we're still in EA and there isn't a proper conclusion to the story

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And then he kills Zag

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Or, uhm, various random things do, surely nothing that he has anything to do with

distant cairn
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Sorry if this is a silly question, but does anyone have any advice about how to not suck with the bow?

formal rover
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dash attack lots

distant cairn
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huh

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the one thing i wasn't doing lol

candid nimbus
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For the bow I keep my distance, hit and run tactics

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but I also have most of the enemy's attack patterns memorized

edgy bear
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i generally fire, dash, fire, dash

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even if i'm not doing optimal hits all the time, keeping away from enemies is most important!

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also the special on the default bow can do a lot of burst damage since it won't spread as much the closer to an enemy you are

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oh! and poseidon boons are great for keeping enemies away

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demeter too

candid nimbus
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I like athena special for default bow, nice big deflect

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but knockback and slow is nice

mint relic
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I like athena special too

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I like slamming special into an enemy's back

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and it's good utility for when you're fighting witches etc

edgy bear
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Oh yeah Athena special is fantastic

distant cairn
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how do i ||upgrade the area in the record room to reunite chaos and nyx||

spare marsh
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Nyx will give you a house contractor quest.

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Eventually.

distant cairn
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gotcha

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thanks!

shell musk
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will the bone hourglass duration duration increase for items still last if i take it off

ornate remnant
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For the existing items, yes

silver bough
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if I take bone hourglass, I always try to purchase items at the well mid-biome before switching out the keepsake in order to get the longer duration on those items

signal minnow
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how do I provide feedback? I'm not allowed in the feedback thread

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when you use the blueprint your resources should be more visible

loud adder
golden thistle
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does Divine strike cause the shields bull rush to deflect rather than block?

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the answer is While charging it still blocks however while moving forward with the attack you will deflect

candid nimbus
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Yeah

golden thistle
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yo how you get lots of titans blood

ornate remnant
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Once you || beat the final boss || you can get more.

distant cairn
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will there be updates post release?

ornate remnant
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Devs have said they're not thinking about that yet, so we don't know

distant cairn
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gotcha

ornate remnant
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Based on their previous games, not likely though

distant cairn
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good to keep on task

cloud orchid
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they said they are going "all in" on this final update

patent cedar
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Crush shot, sweet surrender, heart rend and splitting headache

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I didn't mean to get this lot but apparently it happened

serene mural
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Hey there I'm new to Discord and to the Hades Community; I just wanted to say that you guys at Super Giant absolutely hit it out of the park with this game! I was a big fan of Transistor's combat and this game took it to the next level. I'm blown away by the characters and content of this "early-access" game, and it puts other full retail AAA games to shame 😛 Absolute contender for my game of the year 2020! Great job you guys

spark ether
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It's my favorite of 2020 hands down

formal rover
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same

patent cedar
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I borked the game

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I summoned 2 blitz discs

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Time to f10

distant cairn
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any advice for using the shield, particularly the blitz disc?

subtle relic
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Do folks on PC feel the game is better with a controller or straight M&k?

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By "better" I mean optimal, or more up to preference?

ornate remnant
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more preference

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controller has better movement, but M&K has better aiming

formal rover
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any advice for using the shield, particularly the blitz disc?
get all the zeus boons and you will be fine

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specifically thunder flourish -> static discharge -> double strike (or high voltage/storm lightning) -> splitting bolt

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i usually try to grab demeter on attack and go for cold fusion, but really splitting bolt is all you need

mint relic
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controller and mouse

formal rover
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that’s specifically for blitz disk ofc

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tho you can use that build on chaos aspect as well

distant cairn
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@formal rover thanks a bunch!

formal rover
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no worries

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i used to hate the blitz disk but with that build it’s super fun

distant cairn
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i honestly suck pretty bad at the game

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finally finished my first run a weekish ago

formal rover
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this game is hard lol

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i’ve been playing for over 200 hours and still feel like i suck half the time

leaden whale
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Is it weird that I find the aspect of chaos underwhelming

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What am I missing? Heard someone say it is broken the other day

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Feels like, outside of tartarus, the special just tickles

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no matter what hammers or boons I’ve attempted so far

vivid crane
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Ridiculous DOT stacks, burst damage early, auto-hitting enemies from across the map, etc. It does need some level-ups to really get good though.

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Of course, not everything people agree is good needs to fit with your play style and that’s okay too

leaden whale
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Dionysus is a fair point

vivid crane
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It also works with ||Demeter|| since it allows you to apply that status effect to all enemies almost instantaneously, which procs a boon of hers

dawn berry
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it's good with thunder flourish too

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it's underwhelming at lower levels

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great at max

subtle relic
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Hey thanks @ornate remnant !

ornate remnant
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Sure thing!

edgy bear
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Yeah I really like the special for slapping doom on a bunch of enemies

vivid crane
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For sure, one of most memorable runs I ever had was Doom Laser Duo, where I had the hammer that makes Bull Rush a piercing projectile, put Athena’s special on and then got ||merciful end|| then just alternated the doom laser and insta-procs

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Honestly not even a super broken combo, just good clean fun

gray haven
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Chaos Aspect is good because it can be very safe—not because it does a lot of damage. There are better aspects if you want damage.

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I also think it's way overrated. People have success with it because they use it over aspects, because people tell them to use it, so they get more practice with it than other aspects, etc. . . . I'm way better with other aspects, personally.

dawn berry
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I think people have success with it because it has little to no risk

formal rover
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yeah i actually play mostly with other weapons, but when i'm trying to do higher heat i keep coming back to the chaos shield

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i mean, other weapons don't make me invulnerable

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i still die despite the invulnerability, but it helps 😛

mild carbon
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Try Zag aspect Fists with the feather equipped.. it can be nutty if you can clear rooms fast.

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Also the spear with 3x strike on your dash-attack.. combined with either Zeus or Dio.. or Artemis.

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Or the gun with doom on special, special is a rocket launcher, with the spread shot special.. its insane.

tepid vale
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serrated point with lots of bonus dash-strike damage is zagluv

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I've had builds that could one-shot elites in Elysium

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I don't know what's considered spoiler in this channel lol

hoary tapir
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How do I find the most recent Q&A? Is there a firmer 1.0 release date from that?

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Or is it still just "Autumn 2020?"

ornate remnant
pulsar frigate
hoary tapir
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Thank you much! 🙂

ornate remnant
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Sure thing o7

gray haven
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@tepid vale final boss and anything past clearing the game for the first time.

tepid vale
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easy

small hinge
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Holy moly this game is good
For the first time, I accidentally skipped dialogue pepehands
Is there any where I can review what was said?

ornate remnant
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Not that I know of, sadly

small hinge
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What's up with starting a run sometimes, and you get a screen with Hades describing one of the gods?

ornate remnant
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iirc, those are brief flashbacks to previous conversations Zag had with Hades

small hinge
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Ah gotcha

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Didn't know if it meant like that god wouldnt be in the run or something lol

ornate remnant
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Nope

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Just some nice extra story ^.^

sleek whale
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sometimes i feel like that points towards that god being the first boon u get

small hinge
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In this case, it was about Zeus, though the beginning room was a boon from Aphrodite

sleek whale
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eh, i just prolly remember the times thatb happens

barren valley
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There is = quit game to menu. The game saves on new room entry so you should be able to get the dialogue again

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this works unless you take damage and/or fish

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Or you can give up to replay current seed

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that should also keep the dialogues

ornate remnant
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Not all, but most

barren valley
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well some are randomly selected from the queue - e.g. opening by your father is semi-random

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but story related dialogue is normally the same if you replay a seed

small hinge
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Huh, what did I do for Zag to say "Well, 5 second rule" or something

sand bridge
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probably for picking up a healing item

spare marsh
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Yeah, picking up food items.

small hinge
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Ah, gotcha

small hinge
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Holy moly the 3rd boss fight
So much HP

obsidian locust
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Not to mention Asterius drifts so hard while charging

tepid vale
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it gets better

unborn hornet
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Getting around that charge is tough if you don't have some killer mobility

ornate remnant
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Or good timing—don't try and outrun it

loud adder
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try hanging around pillars

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good timing will come with time

gray haven
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Fight him between a pillar and a wall, then dash through him when he does his bull charge. He'll try to turn around and slam into either the pillar or the wall.

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Or if you're right next to a wall or pillar, dash away or through him at the last moment.

fast thistle
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Any tips for dealing with those archers in Elysium? I always get tagged by those at least a few times. Same for the Satyrs, especially when there's more than one and I don't have Poseidon's boons around to bounce them off the walls.

spare marsh
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Pay attention to the targeting markers for archers and take cover.

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And try to deflect Satyr attacks back at them if you can, or chain stagger them with attacks.

formal rover
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Obviously depends on the situation, but sometimes just being more aggressive is a good strategy against strongbows. They have much less health than other exalted, and will often try to run rather than shoot you if you get close, which buys you time.

candid nimbus
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Running perpendicular to their attacks helps too, no? Well for strongbows

formal rover
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yeah

candid nimbus
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For Satyrs I swore you could attack the projectile, but I might be remebering wrong x.x

formal rover
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for elite satyrs tho sometimes moving perpendicular just yeets you straight into one of their other projectiles

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you can destroy most projectiles by hitting them, though i'm not sure about satyrs or strongbows

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they shoot so fast i usually rely on dodging

candid nimbus
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Hit and run tactics is what I use against elite satyrs

formal rover
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i either hit and run or go hyper aggressive based purely on whether i have divine dash or not 😛

candid nimbus
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Really just have to figure out what works best for you, especially in some of those more cramped rooms lol

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Highly variable tactics, thanks RNG!

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but the tips given should help a bit I hope

spare marsh
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And if it's the boss satyr? Cry. Cry and try to time your big hits after his attack and do your best.

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Or deflect one attack and laugh at them.

gray stirrup
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and after you're done crying and you pull through probably by the grace of athena, make sure to gloat like "haha yes die trash"

formal rover
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the only way i get anything done in this game is by the grace of athena

candid nimbus
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I get things done through sheer luck!

loud adder
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I get things done through half-conscious button mashing

gray stirrup
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i just booted up for the first time in ages and had apparently been in the middle of a run with zag fists and plume, so that time i survived by the grace of hermes

formal rover
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I get things done through half-conscious button mashing
honestly this is a massive mood

loud adder
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It is what it is

tepid vale
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don't do that
you'll do a lot better if you actually focus on the game and constantly make conscious decisions

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speaking from experience

formal rover
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i mean, you're absolutely right

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but yolo

loud adder
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at some point the encounters become so frantic and effects so excessive I just give up to comprehend

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  • boredom from repetitive attack patterns
dawn berry
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I was basically the same until higher ||heat||