There is a sell system for boons and stuff isn't there?
#h1-for-new-players
patent cedar
tepid wren
Ah yes but during the run
patent cedar
Like the rooms after the bosses and sometimes random rooms
Ah
You're talking about something else
tepid wren
It's not like you could sell the gems. You just have a trading system in the spawn area
patent cedar
I see
tepid wren
Well i don't know what he meant by selling to be honest lol
patent cedar
Lol
I just assumed mid-run
But there is also a trader in the lounge
He kind of expensive though
tepid wren
But it's more a trading system than a selling to me
patent cedar
Though I would happily trade 10 keys for nectar if it gets me more Achilles
distant gazelle
what
after beating meg i was in a room where I could use the fountain
there was a shop and next to it a place where I could sell 3 things
patent cedar
Yep
distant gazelle
thats what I meant by selling
patent cedar
That's what I was talking about before
tepid wren
Alright
distant gazelle
I can't send pics but the name is pool of purging
tepid wren
yes you can sell god's boons
distant gazelle
should I go for those combined boon levels
tepid wren
Duo boons ?
patent cedar
The few duo boons were really good
distant gazelle
hey guys
if I swap mirror of the night stuff
do I still have the bonus
or can I only choose one
fallow bronze
uneven slate
You can have one active at a time. Choose wisely!
uneven slate
69 (although it may differ, extra rooms are possible under certain conditions)
sly vigil
14 for Tartarus
10 for Asphodel
12 for Elysium
God knows how many for Styx
Numbers can change if you get Chaos gate right before boss fight, in which case add 1, because you get an "extra" shop, too.
pulsar frigate
all the weapons are balanced, it’s just a matter of playstyle preference
patent cedar
^
For example Id because it lets me get close and also deal damage from a distance
Not much damage, but it helps
final shuttle
YAY I beat theseus!! but the next boss destroys me lol
final shuttle
I got half of his health at the second phase, the first one is easy the second one not so much lol
patent cedar
Yep
I got him down to about 1/4
Guess I should have gone death defiance instead of stubborn but oh well
uneven slate
It's when Slicing Shot is used with the secret shield aspect.
It changes all casts into an alternate version (Flares)
brisk surge
final shuttle
I just unlocked the aspect. My good they are fun as hell
uneven slate
Cold Embrace can be very strong with the right weapon (I recommend Hera). It requires Crystal Beam and is incompatible with the fourth Shield aspect. Freezing Vortex is compatible, as far as I know. It's tricky to use with most weapons.
sudden turtle
How do I get further with sil? I've got it on the codec as advance relationship but I've given him all the nectar I can.
obsidian locust
Sil?
sudden turtle
How do I unlock it? No one seems to mention it when I talk to them. And yeah Sisyphus. Phone autocorrects it for some reason.
ornate remnant
You also need to talk to || Nyx ||
hoary cloak
And give nectar
ornate remnant
As well as a couple other characters
obsidian locust
Like dad for example
hoary cloak
And ||bouldy||
sudden turtle
Thanks. I gave all the nectar I could. Just a waiting game for it I guess.
obsidian locust
Hope it comes your way soon!
sudden turtle
Always do. Even when it's hypnos wanting me to ask for autographs next time. 
ornate remnant
:D
sudden turtle
! And petting cerebus I always do when I start.
tulip basalt
So on the MIrror of Night, is God's Legacy or God's Pride better?
ornate remnant
Legacy is good if you know the pre-reqs for Legendaries and Duos
obsidian locust
I would argue that pride is better, but that's just me being salty cuz I never get duos and legendries =/
tulip basalt
what is Hunter's Flare boon? I see it listed a requirement...but google isn't showing me anything
obsidian locust
"Flare" boons are only available with a certain weapon
pulsar frigate
artemis cast for ||the fourth aspect of the shield||
tulip basalt
with Aspect of Chiron, does a boon like Zeus lightning strike hit multiple times when the special homes
ornate remnant
There's an internal cooldown of I believe 0.3 seconds
pulsar frigate
thunder flourish (zeus special) has an internal cooldown of .3 seconds, meaning chiron strikes too fast to get off anything more than 1 bolt
unless you do some weird angling thing
tulip basalt
Aightio...so bad pick...oh well...
obsidian locust
Gg
patent cedar
Wow
I'm getting better with the Theseus fight
This is surprising
Are there any traps during the final boss fight?
ornate remnant
|| Yes ||
ornate remnant
o7 good luck!
patent cedar
Thank you!
Also may I ask
||Why is there a boon in the shop which is 3x more expensive than normal?||
ornate remnant
|| It guarantees higher rarity boons ||
patent cedar
Ah I see
Well they're both from the same god so
May as well
I beat the final boss!
ornate remnant
Woohoo! Take a screeenshot of the end card and post it in #h1-victory-boasting !
patent cedar
Stubborn roots actually allowed me to iwn
So glad I got that boon on the last region
spare marsh
I feel like Stubborn roots is 'cursed' for me.
I've gotten it multiple times, but every time I do, I don't end up needing it.
patent cedar
I really needed it for the last fight
Stubborn defiance got me most of my health back, then I died again and used the lucky tooth
And finally after that I started regenning
ornate remnant
Is it like a dark portal?
uneven vault
yeah
ornate remnant
It's a place to explore (I can spoil it if you'd like)
unborn ledge
Hey! Long Supergiant fan, but didn't get into Hades until the Switch announcement. 3 or so runs at launch, then nothing. Anywhere. Just here to add to the no doubt cacophonous call that Cursed Slash OP. I mean, it's fun, but man.
patent cedar
Maybe I was too eager there
ornate remnant
Hmm, I actually haven't heard that much about Cursed Slash being OP @ Seeker
patent cedar
240 minutes this session and it's currently 1:15am
I think it's about time I took a break
patent cedar
Damn this game is fun
I did indeed
Beat the final boss twice in a row
At runs 24 and 25
I don't know whether that's about normal or anything but I'm quite happy with it
rotund linden
Cursed Slash is kinda wack TBH
Not really worth losing that much health unless you already have an obscene amount. Think its killed me more than its helped every time.
fossil mango
hey folks, bought hades yonks ago, been waiting until it's close to completion before starting it, because I'm all about storytelling and want the full experience in one go, rather than waiting for updates
seems like 1.0 is about a month or two off, but my question is, how long is the game for most people?
ornate remnant
I'm 200 hours in and haven't "finished" it
Story-wise, I've gotten most of the existing content
It'll take a while to get everything, I can guarantee that
fossil mango
well, I guess how long would it take to naturally get to wherever this ending that's coming with 1.0 would be?
or do we not know that yet?
ornate remnant
"ending" being finishing a run, or completing all of the story content?
pulsar frigate
all we know is that the true ending will be revealed in 1.0
i haven't heard anything of what exactly the ending will entail, or if it'll take multiple wins to get there
fossil mango
yeh right
well, sounds like going any deeper would get spoilery, so I guess I'll just wait a couple more weeks and then get started on it
cheers guys!
pulsar frigate
👍 have fun!!!
fossil mango
I'm sure I will!
played everything supergiant have made
so good
early access gives me anxiety though, haha
I like to dig deep and get immersed in a single game at a time, no interruptions
rain elk
there's probably enough content for you to play it nonstop until release if you wait a couple weeks, yeah
lost sluice
There's plenty of content already, especially this close to 1.0. There's no way you'll run out of it
rain elk
it's super super replayable as well
lost sluice
And there are even dialogue lines that comment on the very fact that the game is unfinished
Probably the most responsible early access ever so far
scarlet chasm
tepid vale
558 hours
I just can't stop
that's a pretty good ratio of Hades: not hades you've got going on though
gusty cairn
i keep getting this blue text and creepy voice saying things like "devastation", anyone know what the deal with that is
sand bridge
are you using the shield with the aspect of Chaos?
gusty cairn
i am, and that would explain it
pretty neat that they comment on it when you use it like that
tepid vale
They are your own personal cheerleader.
gusty cairn
but that's the kind of cool detail i've come to expect from supergiant
gray shore
I love the lore and gameplay I started playing this two days ago.
umbral birch
10 hours in, long time SG fan and first time here! I need few clarifications:
- Will there be any upgrade (mirror or wherever else) to focus on damage upgrade or all is RNG?
- Tried to figure out, but still have no idea what does CAST do
Thank you all, hope we will hang out for a long long time 🙂
uneven slate
- There are permanent upgrades to damage (mirror and keepsakes), which tend to be tied to certain situations like backstabs, and run-specific upgrades (boons) which are typically tied to one type of action (attack, special, cast, dash).
- Cast is a ranged attack with limited ammunition. A mirror upgrade will allow you to deal bonus damage against enemies with casts stuck in them, but there are also non-sticky casts that deal more damage on their own.
umbral birch
- Thank you, now I know how to approach runs
- Tried that, was adding casts into enemies and then thought I was dealing more damage, but was convinced that was just the placebo 😄
patent cedar
Cast itself does damage and with boons they can apply effects too
So if you want to use your cast more you can eventually get more than one
distant gazelle
damn I managed to get to the the 3rd boss and got rekt
I even had 2 deaths defiances
as if that is such bad word this proxy is triggered too fast
marble nest
Would like to ask, will Hades someday offer multiplayer experience? If yes that'd be great!
marsh ether
From #hades-faq
Is Hades a multiplayer game, or are there any plans for multiplayer?
Hades is a single-player game. We have no plans to add multiplayer, as we have been building the design and narrative of Hades with a solo experience in mind.
marble nest
Wow, okay - thanks for the info^^. I am thoroughly enjoying this new game. Waiting for the v1 launch patiently
distant gazelle
any tips and tricks against 3rd boss
patent cedar
Take Asterius out first
It's easier to deal with Theseus' blessings when he's on his own
distant gazelle
I had minotaur
and theseus
also does the game get harder
cause it feels like the more I progress the harder the enemies hit
same enemies
marsh ether
Enemies deal the same damage no matter where you encounter them
But the game spawn more armored enemies and more enemies in general the farther you are in a biome
patent cedar
Not to mention the enemies do actually get harder to deal with the further into a run you get
Because of their attacks/how they actually work
distant gazelle
damn this there is even more
pulsar frigate
there's surprisingly a lot of progression in this game
patent cedar
How exactly do bounties work?
obsidian locust
Everytime you beat a boss, you get a bounty reward. The three current rewards are Titan Blood, Diamonds and Ambrosia
Each boss drops the bounty once and will only drop it again until the final boss is beaten
You can uses the bounty rewards for multiple things.
Titan Blood: ||Used to upgrade weapon aspects||
Diamonds: ||Used to buy specific orders from the contractor||
Ambrosia: ||Used to progress relationships past a certain level||
sleek wigeon
it is until you manage to defeat him
took me 5-10hrs just to get him out the first time
then I had a 4 win streak
once you manage to defeat one time, the real deal begins
distant gazelle
is this better
distant gazelle
yeah I gotchu
I wasn't so sure I thought 3rd boss fight is spoiler as well but someone said it normal so I just thought whatever
the game is kinda strange
I guess beating the game for the first time is like beating the tutorial of the game
patent cedar
Yeah I said the names of the third myself because I wasn't sure but the final boss fight 100% is
Oh yeah
There's a lot more to do when you beat the boss once
distant gazelle
is it like new content
or is it like running the game again and again but it's just same stuff only stuff like
uhh you get less heal or deal less dmg or smth
patent cedar
Well there's also a bunch of story that I haven't gotten yet after 3 clears
But this game does have a lot of replayability
distant gazelle
I don't really understand dodging in this game
is it an iframe or not
also for example when minotaur jump attacks me and I dash away it still hits me
mid dash
uneven slate
Dashing has i-frames, but inputting an attack/special will cancel them. Beware!
pulsar frigate
dash striking removes all iframes from dashing
patent cedar
Ideally save it to dodge hits so you don't get caught wide open but
I can't talk because I dash to get places quickly all the time
ornate remnant
Hahaha, yeah
undone folio
What happens if you have 2 types of the same damage?
like S and attack with hangover or doom
what deals the damage?
is your overall damage changing?
ornate remnant
With doom, the first one is the one that does damage
With hangover, I think each stack is calculated and treated separately
ornate remnant
Generally yeah, it's a good idea to diversify your boons
leaden whale
i cannot find the ricochet fire hammer upgrade for the rail even after a lot of runs
is there anything im missing cause i want to complete the prophecy
formal rover
it’s probably just rng, i’m afraid
afaik there’s nothing special you have to do to unlock it
leaden whale
was it called concentrated fire before?
looks like it has the same effect
and concentrated fire isnt in the prophecy list
formal rover
hmm i don’t know
ornate remnant
Dunno about the wiki, but yeah you're just reliant on RNG to get it
leaden whale
alright thanks
ornate remnant
Also, concentrated Fire is different from ricochet, since that was mentioned
rain elk
finally made a dent into asphodel but was 4 coins short of a death defy refill at charon's well and i died in the next room 😔
but i am unreasonably proud that i beat barge of death first try
ornate remnant
nice!
ornate remnant
you'll get there!
spare marsh
Practice makes perfect! Eventually it'll be easy for you.
distant gazelle
why are mobs allowed to stay in fire without taking any damage?
when I play melee I can't do anything
ornate remnant
usually they will take damage from lava, it just takes a couple seconds
distant gazelle
especially those witches who just spam stuff, I fight them a bit and they run there and then I can wait and do nothing, killing one takes long anyway so what is the idea behind having 5 witches who spam from everywhere while you can't even attack half of them because they run away
spare marsh
The witches are flying.
ornate remnant
ah yeah, witches fly over lava
spare marsh
But most mobs do take some damage.
distant gazelle
so what am I supposed to do against witches
cloud orchid
try using cast against them
or lure them away from lava
also, keep in mind that you can dash into lava and take no damage, if you dash right out
distant gazelle
it was just a bad matchup
I had them fists and poseidons knocking away thing and my cast was aphrodites cast which has short range
sleek wigeon
you can get a second aphro boon that drastically increases the cast range @distant gazelle
distant gazelle
I wanted to get athenes deflect + increased attack range and more dmg thing but no athene
that thing is really strong
and that would have helped me a lot
sleek wigeon
my favorite athena with fist is the dash
favorite attack is zeus
with aphro special
you get crazy dmg output
and a lot of sustain
sleek wigeon
I just beat heat 10 with it yesterday
distant gazelle
chain lightning right
sleek wigeon
everytime you hit you get a free lightning strike
Jolt boon with zeus makes it very stupid
distant gazelle
which hammer thing do you take
sleek wigeon
jotl is kinda exposed effect but better
I love the one that gives you an assault that ends your combo
so you can chain hit while dashing
the one that gives range +20dmg is crazy good aswell
aphro special makes the uppercut really punchy
you can one shot most of the unarmored dudes
distant gazelle
interesting
btw can I ask you a quesiton on how you plan your way throughout the game
sleek wigeon
yeah feel free to ask anything I'd be glad to help as much as I can
distant gazelle
awesome
so is there like a tier list or something similar
like stuff that you prioritze over other stuff
or is it build dependant or depending on what you want to play
sleek wigeon
there is aspects better than other ones
but for the most part you can pretty much do as much as you want
distant gazelle
I don't have any aspects yet
sleek wigeon
until you're getting on the high level heats
you'll get to this sooner than you think
the real deal begins when you end a run for the first time
I got helped by @ornate remnant and @tepid vale, two very friendly dudes
distant gazelle
yeah I got rekt by the last boss 3 times now
sleek wigeon
Thanks to them I put 60hrs in the game in a week
distant gazelle
ornate remnant
For right now, what you want to focus on is one ability at a time--if you can get a build that only needs one button, you've got a solid build
sleek wigeon
Yeah
for that purpose I heavily suggest Zeus Fists
and aphro is the way to go on pretty much ANY build
always a good choice
Crazy bonus dmg + the weak effect
sleek wigeon
Well I strongly dissapoint with that
ornate remnant
Nope
sleek wigeon
I love Aphro
ornate remnant
she's really good
distant gazelle
she has some good stuff but I am not sure on how to play overall
distant gazelle
like synergies and duo boons or how or what
ornate remnant
Aphro + Artemis
sleek wigeon
so ennemies are weakened
then you go for the heavy beat down
Artemis is good but for a beginner
you need more synergies to get efficient i'd say
ornate remnant
I mean that combo
ornate remnant
the Aphro/Artemis duo
distant gazelle
how does one have sustain
sleek wigeon
his debuff while stacked is one of the biggest dmg sources
sleek wigeon
Well aphro pretty much heals
distant gazelle
which is kinda super low
gray haven
30%.
distant gazelle
hmm I mean that's not really healing but I kinda get your point
but I know there is this one thing you can get that increases it by 10% or so
sleek wigeon
If you need healing just upgrade your mirror and hub
distant gazelle
the weak effect
sleek wigeon
you'll get fountain rooms
distant gazelle
yeah but the fountain rooms are random
ornate remnant
healing by darkness is generally better than healing per room
sleek wigeon
yeah you can upgrade the weak effect a lot
ornate remnant
imo
sleek wigeon
the legendary boon is super good
ornate remnant
also, there are a lot of Well items that give you sustain
sleek wigeon
don't wanna spoil it but you'll love it
yeah I almost always heal thanks to the well
gray haven
I'd rather take Chthonic Vitality, generally.
sleek wigeon
I thing chtonic vitality gets good when you're not on your first try
Since you get more darkness
distant gazelle
I never really tried out the other one
but the other one sounds kinda good cause I want to farm darkness anyway
sleek wigeon
- he may want to get other rewards for the moment
distant gazelle
so I might go heavier on darkness
sleek wigeon
than darkness
well if you want to farm darkness
Just take chtonic vitality like nyaanyaa said
will help greatly
distant gazelle
why does that one help
gray haven
Chthonic Vitality is the +3 HP per chamber. You're thinking Dark Regeneration.
distant gazelle
yeah that one
btw guys
these mirror things
I mainly use the dark ones
but are there some that are really better than the other one
sleek wigeon
Like most of the people
Yeah there are but it is kinda relevant on your playstyle
I personnaly use the green one only on the last passive
that gives you reroll currencies
but for everything else, just purple maxed out
sleek wigeon
a great survivability tool you may not think at first
Greatest Reflex on Hermes is pretty nuts
if you get the +2 or +3 dash
gives a lot of sustain
sleek wigeon
you need to when you use fists
because assault is the main dmg dealer
hermes is crazy with fists
if you get the attack speed bonus
and zeus attack
your run is pretty much done
distant gazelle
what about hammer
cloud orchid
healing by darkness is only really useful on repeat runs
where they drop a lot of it
gray haven
Lightning Strike is okay. I'd much much rather have Divine Strike or Curse of Agony on Malphon.
sleek wigeon
the best hammer for me on fists is the one that gives you the magic assault that combos
distant gazelle
so now I can choose between +5 for each consecutive hit or holding special for up to 100% and the last one is dash strike deals 900% dmg against armor
cloud orchid
Fists are the one weapon that has almost no bad hammers
gray haven
Breaching Cross is easily #1 on Malphon.
sleek wigeon
yeah
distant gazelle
yeah the last one is good against normal enemies but I mainly struggle in boss fights
esp last two ones
sleek wigeon
it's the basic one
distant gazelle
damn
gray haven
"Malphon the Twin Fists" is the name.
distant gazelle
thanks for clarifying
cloud orchid
Normal Fists are unfortunately bugged for me
distant gazelle
yeah I remembered them as twin fists forgot the rest
I got like 5 titan blood didn't use it yet
cloud orchid
and don't increase attack speed, which means they are 100% useless
cloud orchid
no problem, Demeter Aspect kick s ass
rotund linden
Demeter with explosive upper upgrade is 👌
gray haven
||Heat|| is a spoiler. Anything past the first clear is spoilers here, generally. 
rotund linden
you get to GRAND UPPER the hell out of life and that feels good.
cloud orchid
Explosive Upper is bugged, also, in the player's favor
rotund linden
Streets of Hades
gray haven
Bugged? 
cloud orchid
yes, if you have Dionysus Special, it deals double Hangover damage
as you can imagine, it results in absurd amounts of damage dealt by Giga-cutter
rotund linden
wish I saved seeds to see
🤔
don't know if that would be as fun as seeing big crit numbers from using Artemis though.
gray haven
Actually, I would say it's still not worth taking Drunken Flourish on it tbh.
cloud orchid
no, Giga Cutter stacks 5 hangover immediately
echo delta
For cursed slash is there any way to increase the amount of health you get back?
gray haven
No.
obsidian locust
Sadly no
echo delta
kk
distant gazelle
guys can I get multiple fists
I mean like the one from demeter and poseidon
from what I have seen I can't have them at the same time
but does it reduce the chance of getting other ones
gray haven
I'm not following.
distant gazelle
lol
so basically I got this one that says +40 attack damage + chill
from demeter
gray haven
Attack boons? You can only have one of each core boon type at a time.
distant gazelle
yeah, but does it like reduce the chance of getting attack boons from other gods
gray haven
Yeah.
distant gazelle
damn so if I get bad boons I have to live with it and or not take them
sleek wigeon
ye but if you get another attack boon offered by a god, I think it's superior quality than the one you have, right?
you can purge bad boons
gray haven
They can offer an "exchange" that will swap out your Attack boon with their own (at +1 rarity), but those are very very rare.
sleek wigeon
yeah voila
distant gazelle
yeah I got those few times
gray haven
Same for other core boons.
Factoring in "bad" boons and all that is just part of the experience. Sometimes you'll find good strategies that you'd never considered until you accidentally run into something and have to figure out how to make it work.
distant gazelle
umnm
what the hell
what is this
everytime I think I am done
there is more
these super long fights are hella repetetive
am I lacking damage or is that normal
distant gazelle
I had 2 dd and that tooth
and I died
I fought for several minutes and then I died
ornate remnant
yeah, you're missing dps xD
distant gazelle
how am I supposed to get more dps
ornate remnant
more cohesive builds, poms upgrading boons
distant gazelle
damn man that was kinda super sad
I was so happy and then || phase 2 || I knew I wouldn't make it
it was super sad
hwo do I fish btw
I somehow got my first 2 fish super easy and after that I missed 4 or so
it says too early but hwo am I supposed to turbo react to that little thing
or do I have to wait
ornate remnant
you gotta be super quick after the flash
dawn berry
the bait sinks in completely
dawn berry
you beat 5 BC, you can beat ||hades||
usually the first level upg with poms are the most important for dps
ornate remnant
"5 BC"?
distant gazelle
hey there hollowhead
dawn berry
"5 BC"?
@ornate remnant he's in dead cells server too
distant gazelle
pink in dc but noob in hades 😔
what exactly are poms
you mean that stuff that upgrades
dawn berry
yes
if your boons are low level try to upgrade them at styx at least
you're using double dash from mirror right?
distant gazelle
yes
ornate remnant
what do you mean?
distant gazelle
sometimes you can't see the enemies and what they are doing (esp in boss fights) and some ranged stuff just goes through walls or whatever
or so it looks like
echo delta
👀
dawn berry
on what boss is doing...?
his moves are quite predictable and there are easy tells if you focus
tepid vale
Learn his attacks, so you can dodge them.
And remember, you don't need to dash instantly when you see a windup. It's always better to move for a moment, then dash, otherwise the endlag on your dash often stops you within the hitbox you're trying to dodge.
distant gazelle
yeah he is not the big problem but once I have to deal with many at the same time I don't know who to focus
especially because it takes some time to kill the little guys he spawns as well
rocky sigil
If you get the final boss to one of his health bar chunks, then it despawns his minions.
dawn berry
for the second wave of minions usually you can focus him down ignoring them
rocky sigil
I find it helpful to kill the minions to build up god gauge
distant gazelle
I don't use the gauge
tepid vale
If you have a good enough build you can DPS rush him and they'll despawn.
Otherwise you just have to play keepaway with him while you take them out.
rocky sigil
You should if you want to make the game easier
formal rover
I don't use the gauge
if you're lacking damage, you might want to look into it
distant gazelle
it takes quite long to deal some damage
formal rover
it deals LOTS tho
distant gazelle
which one deals lots of dmg
formal rover
dionysus is good
echo delta
👀
tepid vale
zeus, dio, poseidon, demeter
dawn berry
athena is also quite helpful IMO
distant gazelle
I used some ares and I just got hit
dawn berry
but not for damage obviously
formal rover
ares is a bit meh honestly
tepid vale
the others are utility and slightly harder to use
formal rover
i used to love it, but less so now
dawn berry
for ares usually you want to wait full god gauge
formal rover
its good if you upgrade it tho
formal rover
mostly i just don't like that i can't use my regular attack while using it
i tend to go for dio, zeus or demeter these days
tepid vale
harder to use
doesn't apply to athena, who makes you invincible and has a very clear indicator of when it ends.
dawn berry
zeus is really good
gray haven
Demeter's Aid is bad for damage.
gray haven
Yeah, the Chill is good. But it's not one you pick for damage.
tepid vale
dem hits a wide area and lets you continue attacking, and once it stacks a few times you don't need to worry about enemy attacks anymore
distant gazelle
whats some good boons for the gun
dawn berry
dont sell it
formal rover
athena isn't bad
dawn berry
since the rail has high attack speed, you should go for things that benefit from that like zeus, dio,demeter etc
but a damage boot is always great like from aphro or artemis
artemis crits rather
tepid vale
aphro is better for her charm
artemis is only good on a greater call which makes her useless in non-boss fights
gray haven
Yeah, but that wasn't the point.
distant gazelle
#stuck
gray haven
||Heat|| is a spoiler tbh. Anything past the first clear.
Nah, it's just her Call that's lacking compared to others.
dawn berry
oh they were talking about calls, im dumb
gray haven
Yeah.
But in a crit build, it can be really good. There are almost always ways to make something work.
distant gazelle
man this game is kinda strange, like I don't think I am doing bad but I always die towards the end
I usually die early
in other games
dawn berry
if i ever died it would be to final boss when i was new
after a while you'll get the patterns
formal rover
yeah the final boss takes some time to get the hang of
you'll get it after a few tries tho
gray haven
Practice, practice, practice.
dawn berry
avoid getting hit by the ||green skulls|| as they increase dmg taken
if you didnt know
tepid vale
remember the mirror perk boiling blood?
formal rover
that makes so much sense
dawn berry
remember the mirror perk boiling blood?
wow never noticed that reference
thats cool
'reference' with literally the same name but still
also @distant gazelle divine dash is your best friend(athena dash)
dawn berry
when he's about to throw the green things you can deflect it back at him
gray haven
By divine providence.
formal rover
when he's about to throw the green things you can deflect it back at him
wait
does that increase the damage he takes?
dawn berry
i dont think so
formal rover
oh rip
formal rover
yeah defs good either way
dawn berry
what hp do you usually have by the end?
sleek wigeon
problem solved 😄
formal rover
if it was a bug with hades, f10 it
sleek wigeon
nah just my r1 button messing around for some reason
formal rover
fair enough
sleek wigeon
I have to say
I wanted to try ps4 controller
compared to my regular kbm
It's very cool too
obsidian locust
The only use I have of a controller in Hades is for fishing
formal rover
i tried controller once and bailed
its weird cause i use controller with all the other supergiant games, but hades i can only KBM
dawn berry
for perfect catch on keyboard your finger should be a nanometer away from E
tepid vale
controller for the good movement and the vibration when you pet cerberus
and also mouse
obsidian locust
I wish you didn't aim with the movement joystick
formal rover
and also mouse
are you suggesting controller and mouse is the best way?
unorthodox, to be sure, but i can respect it
obsidian locust
Wait wha
HOw
Wouldn't the aim get really weird since its switching between the cursor and direction of the joystick?
tepid vale
it just works
you have to remap a couble buttons, and then you're good.
dawn berry
tepid vale
It accepts both at the same time, but prioritizes mouse for aim
just like you don't aim with wasd when you have the cursor onscreen
tepid vale
yes. I use it
formal rover
there you go
i stand corrected
doesn't it get annoying, holding the controller in one hand?
gray haven
I used both pad and keyboard when playing FFXI on Xbox 360, so I can see that working quite well.
distant gazelle
hell yeah buddy that was one epic last fight I finally won
obsidian locust
Oh nice
distant gazelle
turns out having dmg is kind of a game changer
obsidian locust
Grats
dawn berry
lol
formal rover
congrats!
tepid vale
did you take a screenshot of your build?
obsidian locust
Make sure you post a pic in #h1-victory-boasting
formal rover
ngl i had no idea how to do damage when i started
i just always chose dio boons cause he seemed super chill
distant gazelle
thanks guys I posted a pic in that channel
distant gazelle
can I still ask questions here
ornate remnant
yup
obsidian locust
But of course
ornate remnant
as long as they don't include spoilers :3
ornate remnant
pretty much--keep trying out new things
there's a whole suite of community challenges as well
gray haven
turns out having dmg is kind of a game changer
I'm sorry, but that made me laugh lol.
distant gazelle
these aspect things, can I use multiple of them
ornate remnant
not at the same time, no
tepid vale
one at a time
ornate remnant
Lysol did you change your name and colors again
tepid vale
I cut off the suffix yeah
ornate remnant
aight
wanted to make sure I wasn't going crazy
I mean, I am, but at least not in that regard
tepid vale
no
ornate remnant
not really? some can just get way higher if built well
distant gazelle
like which ones
tepid vale
some of them get better than others when they're all optimized
ornate remnant
Sword's 4th aspect
tepid vale
chaos shield is always ridiculous
ornate remnant
yup
ornate remnant
good luck ^.^
distant gazelle
how can I unlock last aspect
echo delta
I managed to hit (spoiler) ||hades|| for 1.5k damage with the shield special
And some crit
ornate remnant
ahh, || boss name is a spoiler || @echo delta
echo delta
👀
ornate remnant
please tag that || like this ||
tepid vale
distant gazelle
oooh thanks
so should I just start with sword one
cause I don't have many blooth
ornate remnant
|| you need to start with the spear one, unless you already have that ||
distant gazelle
damn once again
shield is not so bad but I am not sure on how deal good damage with it
spare marsh
What aspect are you using?
distant gazelle
I played poseidon style and the damage was naasty against mobs where you can just bash them into the wall
no aspect
I mean first one
I guess
I didn't unlock anything yet
spare marsh
Still early on. That's fine!
Don't neglect your special.
Getting a nice boon on it like the Zeus or Ares flourishes can make your life a lot easier.
distant gazelle
so how is the boss fight supposed to look
me spamming my special and running away?
spare marsh
Dashing around hucking the shield at them is perfectly viable.
distant gazelle
is the damage good good
spare marsh
Yeah! Good for clearing rooms, maybe slightly less optimal for bosses, but with the right boons and hammers, it can be amazing there too.
gray haven
Explosive Return will help a lot with damage if you can get that.
distant gazelle
I always get hit in the middle of the dodge :( I had 3 deaths defiances and lucky tooth and died against last boss because I failed almost every single dodge, needles to say I wasn't doing much damage either
ornate remnant
@distant gazelle Make sure you're not overusing your dash attack—the moment you attack during a dash, you lose your i-frames
distant gazelle
yeah idk I think it should have been but it wasn't
by the way, I used the twin fists and had zeus attack, that was super strong in the first biome but kinda fell off, how can I make sure that my damage stays high all the time
ornate remnant
Keep getting Zeus' upgrades—Zeus is one god that synergizes very well with himself
Also Hermes' attack speed up
dawn berry
Zeus is one god that synergizes very well with himself
maybe not the only one
ornate remnant
Not the only
distant gazelle
which hammer one is good
I took the one with the 3 attacks and 35 base dmg but it kinda was bad
dawn berry
thats the last thing you wanna take with zeus attack
distant gazelle
cause its slower
yeah I noticed after taking it lol
damn I could have sold it right
dawn berry
long knuckle is pretty good
distant gazelle
yee I had that one
ornate remnant
Also quake cutter, or whatever it is that adds an explosion when your special lands
It's slow and kills your mobility
gray haven
Heavy Knuckle is pretty good.
Quake Cutter doesn't slow you down. You can still cancel those frames just fine.
pulsar frigate
what's wrong with heavy knuckle lol
gray haven
The problem is just that Quake Cutter effectively doesn't do anything because it's too risky to wait that long, and you never really use it.
At least that's my experience with it.
Heavy Knuckle works really well with Heartbreak Strike or Deadly Strike.
dawn berry
on zag fists yeah
gray haven
Which aren't boons you typically use on Malphon, so it can seem not as good as the other options. But it's pretty good.
pulsar frigate
the only downside i can see with heavy is that it'd take longer to charge demfists' special, but i feel that's pretty minor
dawn berry
Id not call that minor, plus if you want fast stacks with like deo or demeter, or just want to hit fast with zeus attack, its bad
gray haven
Not like Drunken Strike is good on Malphon anyway.
echo delta
I always go with breaching cross and rolling knuckles for fists, and I get artemis's hunter dash
gray haven
That's a solid strat.
dawn berry
is drunken strike good on anything
distant gazelle
isn't that good on fast weapons
pulsar frigate
i mean, of course boons good on fast weapons won't work as well on slow ones
uneven slate
Eris would be a good example.
pulsar frigate
you don't choose heavy knuckle if you want to go fast
distant gazelle
yus
gray haven
Heavy Knuckle with Heartbreak Strike or Deadly Strike is really good DPS.
distant gazelle
which gods attack things are those
gray haven
Lady Aphrodite and Lady Artemis.
echo delta
^
distant gazelle
ooh thanks
gray haven
What I like most about Heavy Knuckle is that it opens some new builds for Malphon that you wouldn't really have considered before they added it.
I like seeing variety.
echo delta
kk
ornate remnant
good luck!
distant gazelle
rip
but it was decent damage
good
20:32 I died at last boss half hp
|| 2nd phase ||
dawn berry
it'll take practice to beat him with melee weapons especially
unless you have extra dashes
the spin is hard to dodge
distant gazelle
yeah
ornate remnant
(any discussion about fighting the final boss should be in #h1-builds-and-combat )
sleek wigeon
on my last fight I was able to dodge like 2 dodges on 3
distant gazelle
I try to go away just to get hit by it
sleek wigeon
it may sound a bit dull to say
but mainly focus on keep being behind him
it helps a lot
distant gazelle
I think my biggest mistake is
that I only try to dodge once I am low
lol
these last few runs I was actually doing quite well and thought like, okay this time ez and only tried to dodge when I was on 1deaths defiance and such
we'll get em next time chief
0 panic perfect execution
on the other hand I managed to flawless the first 2 bosses so that was nice
gray haven
Yeah, what @ornate remnant said tbh. Spoilery spoilers are spoilery.
That or spoiler tags.
distant gazelle
I'll do it next time
do yo guys main a weapon
or play some of everything because resources
spark ether
I play whatever has the darkness bonus that run
But there are weapons die less with for sure
mossy fjord
cannot wait till it's on switch so I can play it-
errant jasper
is there a way to keep game audio playing when the game window is inactive. I wanna play Hades for a stream and would love to have the awesome soundtrack keep playing when I click off the screen
ornate remnant
just a sec
this may work for you
/RequireFocusToUpdate=falsethough that will actually prevent the whole game from pausing, not just audio
Set that as one of the launch options
ornate remnant
sure thing ^.^
errant jasper
sorry my only coding experience is with C+ lol so do I need to add a ";" at the end of the line or its good on its own?
ornate remnant
should be fine on it's own
errant jasper
Awesome, works like a charm
ornate remnant
o7
errant jasper
Thanks again ❤️
ornate remnant
Happy to help! Best of luck!
patent cedar
My boyfriend played for the first time last night and decided to start off with hell mode
vital axle
Hey everyone, is there a way to remove the numbers when I damage an enemy? I find it quite distracting
faint umbra
Yes, go to settings and turn off damage numbers
vital axle
Thanks!!!
sleek wigeon
is there a way where you can kind of customize the accessibility settings ? like changing some colors
||like the white aoe that hades does before going for an aoe, could you turn that red?||
gray shore
Hey any tips on beating the bone hydra
sleek wigeon
what are you struggling with?
usually if you have a decent dps it's an ok fight compared to the next boss
gray shore
The other heads of the hydra I am having a problems with or it I don't have a lot of experience in the fight yet
sleek wigeon
You have to remember that the other heads will attack you when you get close to them
for this fight
athena dash helps a lot
since there is a lot of stuff going on
especially when the bonus heads starts shooting purples waves at ya
I recommend instantly going for the heads when the main one starts being invulnerable
so you get rid of them as quickly as you can
distant gazelle
guys which special boon increases damage by a lot
leaden whale
Chaos.
distant gazelle
do you think I should take the triple bomb (3 times special) for the gun or the one that increases damage dealt if you hit enemy with special once
sleek wigeon
you'll have to take both eventually for the propheties
just pick the one that fits you the best at the moment
gray shore
Ty for the tips Barney
sleek wigeon
np mate feel free to ask anything
leaden whale
Yo barnie do you know how to get summons
distant gazelle
how are you doing barney
sleek wigeon
yeah you have to level up specific relations
if you want to know which ones gives summons i can dm you
don't spoil anything on characters please
sleek wigeon
np buddy 😄
gray shore
Yes beat the hyda
patent cedar
Congrats
gray shore
I had a good run
patent cedar
You beat Hydra once, it just gets easier
gray shore
Yeah I know my one of my favourite wepeon is the sword I got to the 3 boss
languid steeple
the shield guys at floor 3 strong af( found a way to poison em but thats not the best method i think... what do you think?
sly vigil
Elysian is a big vibe check.
urban cypress
i dont like
not even a difficulty curve, a whole step
a whole staircase
T&A keep meming me because it just takes so damn long
got close and then a random aoe spawned on top of me and damaged me before i could even react
last time i take explosive bow
sly vigil
if you are facing DPS issue in Elysium then perhaps you can ask for some build tips
tepid vale
explosive bow with twin shot is the ultimate melee build
sly vigil
as for the bossfight... practice is your friend.
urban cypress
idk so much of this game just feels like an endurance contest lmao
nova star
you'll get the hang of it eventually
sly vigil
yeah, it can be sometimes.
nova star
as you practice you'll figure out what builds work best
sly vigil
although I would also like to showcase the fact that some people (and most are capable of doing this, too) can run the base game within 20 minutes consistently. speedrunners can get up to sub 15 consistently.
so with some practice I believe that you can do well, too. but of course, in the end of the day, it's a game, play it only if you are having fun 😄
oh and we are always happy to help
tepid vale
for fun
if you're playing anyways, you'll learn how boons, your weapons and the enemies work, and you'll git gud enough to go fast
urban cypress
idk this game is doing a terrible job making me feel like my deaths werent just BS while expecting me to grind out the same areas with only variation in floor 1 bosses. Really not a huge fan of minotaur theseus gank fight with a billion hp
formal rover
ngl the champions where a brick wall for me for a long time
that fight generally goes easier if you pick one and focus on them till they’re dead
tho opinions differ as to which one should be targeted first
urban cypress
yeah the problem is the reticle for the spear throw is barely noticable
formal rover
i go for theseus myself
tepid vale
the brickiest of brick walls is yet to come...
urban cypress
so i always get clipped by it trying to just fight mino
tepid vale
theseus has a lot less health, so you can take him out pretty quickly
urban cypress
i see
formal rover
hiding behind pillars helps
urban cypress
i just wish this game had better visual tells
tepid vale
after that the minotaur is easy
formal rover
re: the spear, that is
formal rover
there are a few places where the visual tells could be better, ngl
urban cypress
like mino SOMETIMES charges up before he does triple slash into hop
but then sometimes he just
does it
from standstill
peak heron
I always equip the skull earring if I’m struggling with a boss
urban cypress
and bosses get so tanky im just trying to take him down fast so of course im gonna keep smackin as much as i can if i see him standing still
because i would assume there would be a windup if he decided to attack again
dawn berry
if asterius doesnt attack for a noticeable period of time he's gonna attack without any real warning
its one of the things you get used to
urban cypress
getting used to annoying design doesnt excuse it though
tepid vale
because i would assume there would be a windup if he decided to attack again
he does a windup-less attack after he does the double swing -> single jump-slam combo
if he slams three times it won't happen, if he slams once it will
@urban cypress
dawn berry
it's a period where you can attack him and he does nothing though
you learn to take advantage of it
it's just a boss pattern idk how it's bad design
urban cypress
just seems like learning through smashing your face against a brick wall instead of learning through visuals and animations
formal rover
you do get a feel for it after a few runs
urban cypress
id imagine
it was easier to get a feel for hydra because at least the heads all do some animation before the attack comes out
tepid vale
again: that attack only happens when he swings normally, then jumps at you a single time. if you count his jumps, you will never be surprised by it again.
urban cypress
i mean isee it coming now i just dont enjoy playing around that
because hes so tanky just let me get more hits in jerk
tepid vale
also, that swing comes out in the direction of wherever you were standing when he landed.
so if you move to the opposite side of him, you get more free hits in.
obsidian locust
because hes so tanky just let me get more hits in jerk
When you thought Asterius was tanky and then you ||turn on EM 3||
tepid vale
when you thought Asterius was tanky and then you ||use Nemesis Sword with double edge, epic hunter dash and 4 epic lunge boons from chaos||
obsidian locust
You just made him into cheese with that
formal rover
quite honestly i still have yet to collect my jaw from the floor
i didn’t know mincing him like that was even possible
obsidian locust
Oh its possible
tepid vale
that clip from the current any heat route was terrifying
formal rover
indeed