h1-for-new-players

[jolly tiger]

im trying to do a run with it and this gun legitimately sucks

[somber frigate]

It’s actually really solid

but a lot of people manage to go really wrong building it

Like for base rail, without lightning strike it lowkey sucks. you can scrape by with doom or hangover

But any +% strike is just not the play

It tends to build a lot of flat damage mixed together, like lightning strike x tidal dash rather than having more duo centric builds

You can shoot for smouldering air if you hit aphrodite for your special but you can just as easily hit artemis and grab a ton of her secondary boons instead

*an other thing is a few people tend to try to just stay in one place while using the rail? I’ve heard this sentiment from a few players as they pick up the game and

just let yourself dash as much as possible

It makes it harder for enemies to attack you, it lets you start to abuse dash boons for more damage

[sudden reef]

I'm only 50ish hours in and the rail is my most played weapon so far. The special lets you do a lot of unusual things because of its aoe and flying arc (and it has amazing hammer upgrades) and while individual bullets aren't necessarily that strong, they shoot out instantly letting you dart around tagging enemies. I think you'll change your mind after a couple of runs with it and trying an upgraded aspect.

[tidal nova]

Hi guys

How does one get past a locked heart

Specifically for thanatos

[somber frigate]

Specifics depend on the npc

Each npc has a “favour” you need to complete

each characters fandom wiki page has them if you scroll down to the “affinity” section I can’t remember Thans off the top of my head

[tidal nova]

Ok cool

🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️

Ty!

[versed blade]

It's good if you build it right. It definitely felt like donkey butt the first time I played it, but then I threw some Zeus boons and support fire on it and it was basically an AoE weapon lol
You should also stack boons on cast if you can, that'll be really handy too

[valid lantern]

Hi everyone.
After watching a couple of videos and reading some online discussion, I realized that I seem to suck at this. I'm at over 20 hours played, and more than 100 runs and I have yet to beat the Hydra. I also only very rarely get new dialogue after I die, which I'm guessing means the game is waiting for me to progress. The lack of success of my runs seem to depend a lot on rng. If I don't get the "right" upgrades I can die rather quickly.

Oh well, kind of just a rant. I'm really enjoying this and completely addicted.

[somber frigate]

Starting with the god keepsakes for tartarus and asphodel helps you immensely with getting what you need

also making sure you hit 4 regular olympians(not hermes and not chaos) can greatly increase your odds of hitting what you want since the game stops showing you the regular olympians you don’t have

So you get 2x as many boons for the gods you have

20 hours isn’t all that much in the grand scheme of Hades

[somber frigate]

Also IMPORTANT: when you say “online discussion and watched some videos”… where did you find said discussion and videos? Mainly because reddit is highkey in the Hades stone-age and youtube is kind of Haelian or really gambly at this point

with a heavy skew against being a good educational tool

[versed blade]

What weapons are you using?

In any case, the important thing is that you're having a blast :)

[valid lantern]

On YouTube, just a couple of recent playthroughs that showed up on my feed, and discussions mostly in forums I frequent, and a bit of reddit.

Funnily enough, in the run I started right after writing that, I got to Elysium, and beat tisiphone on the way for the first time. With the bow, which is usually the weapon I do better with.

But I'm playing with all the weapons now usually picking the boosted one. At first I was going always with same weapons, basically trying to fill out the quests.

[somber frigate]

Bow is like my favourite weapon as well

mixing it up early is really nice because you start experimenting with all of them and getting a better feel for them as opposed to some guys I know who really pigeonhole themselves into using just one weapon and being a mess otherwise

What sort of builds have you been aiming for that have been that rng?

[modern wadi]

Hello! I have a problem with Ambrozia after fight with Teseus and Asterion. It disapear from my inventory if I get to Hades and lose. Im new and fought with champions 3 times. 1 time i didnt make it to final meeting with Hades and only this run gave me bottle of Ambrosia. So... is it on purpose or should I report this problem to support team?

[somber frigate]

This is abnormal

you should be getting ambrosia as long as it’s your first time clearing the boss fight with that weapon and it doesn’t matter when you die after that

[modern wadi]

[somber frigate]

Are you sure the ambrosia was just gone immediately?

[modern wadi]

I thought that Hades robbed it for me and I was suprised that there is no dialog about it

[somber frigate]

You didn’t trade it for a titans blood or use it on anything and forget about it?

[modern wadi]

It disapear after dead, when I came back to home

[somber frigate]

Mmmm

[modern wadi]

Nope, I didnt trade gift for my favourite guys. Opposite - I was very happy and proud

And then robbed xD

[somber frigate]

You died in that run right?

Didn’t happen to “give up”

through the pause menu

since that puts you back before you started the run rather than having you die and could feasibly explain this

[modern wadi]

I didint give up

I didnt know theres such option

XD

There is no "give up" for Zag!

[somber frigate]

Well then

This is really weird

[modern wadi]

Thank you, last time I played, there was this situation, so probably it is the best time to wrote love letter

To write

Thank you for confirmation

[shrewd dirge]

why do i never get merciful end on the fists
when i get it every time on the shield

[shut hill]

Did you make the switch to God's Legacy on the mirror?

[shrewd dirge]

is that the better one generally

i havent

[shut hill]

I feel like it's recommended to stick with God's Pride in general but if you're shooting for a Duo or Legendary, God's Legacy helps with that

[shrewd dirge]

k thx

[somber frigate]

Not really

There’s a lot of little things you can do to boost boon consistency but generally merciful end is the gambliest build that we veterans ever recommend to people

[valid lantern]

Is unlocking all the aspects feasible?

[somber frigate]

Yeah?

Most people get all the aspects

If you’re completionist and do stick out all the bounties it’s really easy to max them all

you only need minimal amounts of blood from non-bounty non-prophecies sources given bounties stop at 20 heat

[valid lantern]

Given I have not finished a run yet, that is still a ways off

[somber frigate]

Yeah but it snowballs after you actually beat him 1-2 times usually

Just like how you eventually get meg to the point where you rarely die to her

[valid lantern]

Yeah took me a while to beat her once, but now she's a pushover

[somber frigate]

At least before heat gets into the mix

It’s not that big of a jump each time but most of them do make everything at least marginally more deadly

blood is also a fully renewable resource between trading, fishing and styx shop

[versed blade]

That's similar to how it was for me too lol
Kept dying to Asphodel and then very nearly first-tried Elysium

[whole temple]

should i generally stick to one god's boons or like build or is it alright if i mix and match

[somber frigate]

mix it around

As soon as you take boons from 4 regular olympians (not Chaos and not Hermes), your regular boons will be locked into only those 4 gods naturally from now on

so you double your boon consistency

[whole temple]

i see, but i meant the main like 4 boons like the attack special and dash and call ones

[somber frigate]

you should typically mix those up

+% strikes work really well for heavier attacks, flat damage for faster weaker ones

you don’t need more than one hangover or doom source

if you mix up with your core boons (strike special cast and dash) you’ll start opening up a bunch of fairly strong duo boons

[whole temple]

i see, thank you sm for the help mate

[somber frigate]

Calls also open most of the duos the same way your cores will, they just don’t have a priority slot when rolling boons

So they aren’t cores

where if any of your cores are unfilled (say dash or cast are unfilled), 1 of the 3 options is guaranteed to be one of your unfilled cores (either cast or dash)

Or an exchange

[versed blade]

You'll get an idea for boons and how they interact with each other through practice. For example, if I have demeter attack on fists, I'll probably go for demeter again so that I can get the boon that causes explosions from the rapidly stacking chill effect instead of mixing and matching

And if I'm running bow, my first boon is almost certainly going to be Artemis rereolled until I get the dash strike attack bonus but then mixed with other status effects so I can get the 40% damage bonus for Priveleged Status from the mirror

[shrewd dirge]

whats the combo for mob clearing on the merciful end shield
i keep knocking the enemies out of my shield with the attack

[somber frigate]

this is why you typically still need divine dash either way

You can just pick it up later

Stay outside your shield and always try to knock enemies back in

so they have to travel the loooong way to leave the radius

[dusky yacht]

Y’all have any spear guides

[valid lantern]

Reached Hades for the first time. Thought I had it until I got to the second phase. Welp

[shrewd dirge]

whats the best keybind for casts on hera and beowulf
i dont have the side buttons on my mouse

[shut hill]

I find the default controls good enough

[brisk quiver]

Yeah, right click just can't be beat if you're doing casts

[shrewd dirge]

does loading more dio casts do more dmg on the cast weapons

[vapid sky]

YO GUYS im new to this game and having trouble

whenever i play it doesnt show my save file

and everytime i keep losing my saves

[outer flint]

Yeah

The casts all fire at the end of the loaded attack

Tho for most cast loading builds you use aphro cast cuz the damage is the highest

[somber frigate]

look for similiar issues in #h1-tech-fixes or #h1-tech-support or submit a ticket

[shut hill]

My sister had this issue once and it was because she wasn't loading through steam

[versed blade]

My first 10-15h of playtime didn't register as playtime on Steam because I ran the executable instead of using Steam

[valid lantern]

Is there a way to check which weapons beat each boss before starting a run?

[somber frigate]

Only after your first clear

Prior to that either mental tally or writing it down

[hazy shadow]

How do I unlock the heart lock of Cerberus?(I mean I can't gift him looks like something has to be done to unlock it)

[solar meadow]

pet him a bunch!! i'm not sure of the exact numbers but if you just spam-click pet and then die you'll be on the right track

[hazy shadow]

By dying you mean do an escape attempt and then come back to him?

[solar meadow]

yep!

[hazy shadow]

Alright thank you

[somber frigate]

Yeah things in the house of Hades usually need this to update/progress

[hot fossil]

any tips on how to defeat, the final boss, hades? like good boon combos and stuff

[median sphinx]

what weapon (and aspect) are you using

[hot fossil]

letmme check hold on

i can just look it up for the aspect but the sword and nemesis

for the aspect

level 1

[median sphinx]

nemesis sword has built in crit chance so you may want artemis to pair with that
artemis has multiple duo boons (x aphro, x athena) that further boosts damage output
divine dash is like very safe for dash
generally picking the +% options for your attack and special is good enough

frankly you should learn to dodge ||hades'|| moves to increase your chance

[hot fossil]

okay thanks!

[median sphinx]

btw have you seen their ||beam attack|| yet

[versed blade]

remember that sword has a little bit of range which means you can be close enough to damage him but far enough to be able to get out of his spin attack with 1 dash

[left scarab]

guys i just saw charon bossfight

why the hell is he so powerful

i lost all 3 of my death defiances to him

but i got his loyalty card :3

[last furnace]

since he doesnt change in between areas, hes hard in tart and sometimes asphodel but normally easy afterwards. it could also be that you dk his attack yet

[versed blade]

More importantly, why did you steal all his money? That's very heartless and inconsiderate of you.

[somber frigate]

It’s called borrowing $5 from your older brother

it all ends up back with him anyways

[outer flint]

https://tenor.com/view/meowl-cat-owl-owl-cat-cat-owl-gif-15541720140384143752

[obtuse flint]

hi

im really finding hades boring

any tips?

its like i keeep dying theres no poit in playin

[somber frigate]

Have you played roguelites before? It often takes a lot of practice and deaths to get things down for your first win

You’re going to die a lot but I absolutely can give tips to help that happen less

#1 you should probably be dashing more than you are already. Regular dashes gives you several frames of immunity to avoid enemy attacks, while dash-strikes are your fastest form of getting out damage and often a weapons best tool

2. use the keepsakes from the regular gods to start putting together more effective builds of your choosing. You can use them to immediately force some gods into your godpool in tartarus and asphodel for your build, and it guarantees you getting them since after you hit 4 regular olympian gods in your god pool (all gods but hermes and chaos), the game only shows you those gods after that point

so your ability to build around gods who really boost themselves skyrockets

on the topic of building weapons: weapons usually want flat damage on any really fast and weak options they have (lightning/hangover/doom on like rail strike or fists strike) while harder hitting options really benefit from +% strike or special bonuses instead

If you want more specific building help I sorta need to know the aspect but hermes, dashes and calls are pretty generic so like
Dashes:

Divine dash (athena): big defence
Tidal dash(poseidon) big damage
Blade dash (ares) big damage but not as easily used

Calls:
Damage: dio and zeus minicalls pop off hard for damage, especially with a single pom or 2 (especially for dio) and zeus’s secondary boons
Defence: athena and pos, they defend you for a decent duration while athena still lets you do all your regular danaging stuff while pos gives you a big truck to hit enemies with

[obtuse flint]

i play bindin of issac rebirth

[somber frigate]

nice! I play a little binding of isaac too but just the OG one ngl

[obtuse flint]

ok

ty

[somber frigate]

idk if the ability to influence rng radically changes between isaac games but Hades puts a ton more building capabilities into your hands

compared to the binding of isaac

[somber frigate]

is there any specific areas you feel you need help with?

are there*

[obtuse flint]

no

i just cat get passed the first boss

[somber frigate]

mmm

I usually tell people to use the fact that your dash has iframes

to take it slow and just learn the bosses attack patterns

she only summons minions after she loses 25% of her hp so before that (and then at 25% hp intervals after that)

you can just hold off on attacking to learn her moveset

she has about 4 moves and knowing how to avoid them and when to dodge for them helps a bunch

I'd probably do this with each boss you end up struggling with, at least at the start

Lmk how it goes

[versed blade]

Heck, you don't even need the dash iframes to dodge
Unless you're running fists, you should have enough reach on your weapon to dash out of the reach of every attack hitbox with 1 dash as soon as any animation starts

[somber frigate]

True

I haven’t been bothered to learn any of the dash timings aside from power couple 🫣 I mainly speedrun so I just blitz through and get out of an area before attacks even hit

[versed blade]

Fastest time I've gotten so far is 13:50 on fists. ||Demeter|| I believe

[somber frigate]

7:43 with base rail

not even ||eris||

[versed blade]

Jeez

[somber frigate]

Everytime I saw it I want to bring it even lower ngl

can’t rn cuz right arm is fractured but

[versed blade]

The saddest thing is that I wasn't even playing my favorite aspect (||Gilgamesh||), I was just going for hammers for the prophecy list

[somber frigate]

tbh

It’s understandable since your pb is with the speed fist

[versed blade]

Yeah

But ||Gilgamesh|| dash strike spam is so fun :(

I have a recurring problem in video games where I always gravitate towards the underpowered options in terms of how fun I find them to play

It hasn't struck with every weapon, but ||Arthur|| sword and ||Gilgamesh|| fists caught my fancy

[somber frigate]

that’s rather unfortunate

I tend to always gravitate towards revolvers and bows if games have them

That’s why my speed pb (for the last like 2 years) and ||heat pb|| have been with zag bow

It was a fluke run that beat my zag bow 7:46

[versed blade]

I do run ||Rama|| as my main bow aspect. It was ||Hera|| before

[somber frigate]

I’d run ||Hera|| if it didn’t need an ungodly amount of inputs for a bow

[versed blade]

And then there's ||Lucifer rail with the triple special hammer|| level of inputs
I only ran it once but I was flicking like a spastic the entire time and having a blast

(Literally)
(Several of them in fact)

[somber frigate]

That one isn’t even bad

[versed blade]

Never had I needed to scroll click so fast in my life

[somber frigate]

I find it far better than ||Hera||

On controller thou

[versed blade]

Oh goodness
Yeah that could get to be a bit much

[kindred sigil]

Try new things often

[shrewd dirge]

yall is there any difference between a lv 4 chiron bow and a maxed one
is the extra arrow that much better

[shut hill]

Probably makes minimal difference if you're using Drunken Flourish for Hangover as even with Low Tolerance 8 is the max stack (5 normally)

But if you have a high damage boon like Heartbreak Flourish it probably makes a bigger difference

[somber frigate]

More concentrated volley damage and works better with crit builds or chaos additive on jangover builds, as well as above mentioned hangover stacks with low tolerance

[dawn swift]

hey so, i need help from you guys. i recently bought hades, and now started playing it for a few minutes. artstyle was great, but the whole gameplay is pretty much this :

1 Go near enemy
2 Spam attack button near enemy
3 Dodge if necessary
4 Repeat

That feels pretty borring for me, and im thinking of getting a refund. Do you guys think that I will regret this decision, and that I'm judging too soon? This also happened with hollow knight btw and its now on my top 3 games. please advise me on this

[digital lake]

I don’t think so. If you love storytelling and want a challenge to push you to completing the story, then this game is awesome. I have over 300 hours in both games combined and I’ve never had a dull moment!

[celest stag]

ok i'm not rewriting this e.e damn autocorrect ....

All in all what i said was hollow knight and hades aree fudermentally different games with different gameplay loops

and both are fun in their own regard

but just like with hollow knight, hades needs abit of time to grow

i mean which game has everything unlocked for you from the start?

[digital lake]

Also getting involved with that hades community has helped me enjoy the game from the get go

[celest stag]

i have countless of hours in both games, easy my top 10 of games i've ever played

the game seem abit much hack and slay in the beginning, but believe me the more you unlock the better it'll get x3
Just like HK!

[outer flint]

A large percentage of Hades is build crafting, so if you haven't tried to explore that then you might find it the thing you're missing

[sweet brook]

i mean... you kinda just oversimplified a whole genre of games with that?

and also if anything that's also the gameplay loop of hollow knight if you really want to oversimplify things

if you oversimplify games like that and dont look for deeper things in/about the game then you're gonna end up refunding a lot of games lmao

like the game has a rich story, full voice acting, the art style is great like you mentioned, the characters feel alive and have bonds

[versed blade]

Even then, that's not true if you run a spell build

[somber frigate]

Like how you can run cast builds in Hades?

[versed blade]

Or bow

[shrewd dirge]

are the vengeances and duos from zeus + ares enough to afk clear hades
or is there anything else i should be going for

[dusty vault]

Dodge chance/aphro's and athena's vengeance boons mostly

And big hp

[dawn swift]

i do but it seems kinda one ofthose boring vampire bullet hell games and not as "exciting" ig as cult of the lamb, which has same gameplay loop

[dawn swift]

i get your point but hk seems fun to me, and despite it being a difficult challenge ig ive adapted to how it plays out (Despite me still losing a lot)

[sweet brook]

it's arguably WAY more similar to cult of the lamb than vampire survivors

going through different rooms to kill enemies and get a reward, kill a boss at the end of each region
different types of enemies that require different approaches to killing them
a "home area" to improve and progress story outside of the run

[dawn swift]

yeah ngl ur right n that but i still refunded

[outer flint]

I guess bro

[hot fossil]

these definitely have helped me, ive gotten up to the final boss hades twice in 2 days (out of 116 attempts and 3 months of work)

[quaint cobalt]

howdy fellas noob question here im at heat 5 rn and i wanna get the skelly prize at heat 8 will i void my rewards for the 5-6-7 heat level if i jump up more than 1 level?

[outer flint]

no

once you beat heat 8, you'd get the remaing reward for heat 5

then if you run heat 8 again it will start you on the rewards for heat 6

[quaint cobalt]

thank ya

[random sage]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-tom-hardy-transform-painful-agony-gif-11732228

6.....

[stuck oriole]

so im fairly new and on ||elysium|| and ||styx||. is there anyway to constistently beat them?

btw those are spoiler areas

[dusty vault]

You don't need to spoiler mark them

Is only for final boss and beyond

[stuck oriole]

o

okie

but is there a way to constistently beat them

[dusty vault]

What are you struggling in each biome respectively.
And for reference
How much have you leveled up in the mirror/weapons/keepsakes

[sudden reef]

Once you get through heat 0 once, you'll see how easy it really is (particularly with all your mirror and other powerups).

[quaint cobalt]

is there any reason why this doesnt appear in any way on the list of prophecies?

cant send pics, alright

[dusty vault]

Need to use embeds

[quaint cobalt]

the ares prophecy which needs me to kill 10k enemies

[dusty vault]

What's your nectar level with him

[quaint cobalt]

i'll check rn

5 hearts

all gods maxed except demeter and him

the others have locks on the other heart

[dusty vault]

Oh, is prob bad rng sadly

Basically just gotta keep talking to him

[digital lake]

So, I just beat the game and want to try to add some heat. I was looking for tight deadline maxed out first, is this a good idea?

[quaint cobalt]

yeah

even with trash build you can complete the 7 min easily

9 min is cakewalk

[outer flint]

tight deadline isn't too bad, atleast with the first stage of it. Extreme measures 1&2 are way more free tho ngl

[quaint cobalt]

i recommend the thing that spawns +1 armored foe on minibosses

that is free too

this game so fun since i first beat hades

i havent lost to him a single time xd

[dusty vault]

[digital lake]

I’m a little more adept in hades 2 combat, but like using Zag shield, is this optimal?

[dusty vault]

Zag shield is good yeah, a bit comes from being a shield (and thus, access to charged shot)
But also for now don't worry too much about optimal

Same as h2, anything will clear just fine for what the game expects of you

[digital lake]

Because the hammers in hades 2 are a lot stronger, I was having trouble deciding wha to take, what are the top 3?

[dusty vault]

For shield is charged shot by far

On zeus shield is exploding return with Cshot being close #2

[digital lake]

I liked using sudden rush and dashing wallop, is that bad?

[somber frigate]

No

[stuck oriole]

sorry i didnt seem your message but im basically struggling with the minotaur and theseus

also i use trident and i have a pretty good mirror

[dusty vault]

#h1-for-new-players message - heroes tips

for styx what I can recommend is that you take the miniboss tunnels first (they have a skull under the reward icon)
miniboss encounters are a lot more predictable than the usual big styx room

[stuck oriole]

i dont want to kill the mino first because theseus becomes more angy and powerful after i kill the mino first

[dusty vault]

that's not how it works

theseus only calls the gods at half hp

[stuck oriole]

thats what happened in my game

[dusty vault]

not when you kill asterius

[stuck oriole]

he said "HE WAS MY FRIEND" and goes full oblobbles type of deal

[dusty vault]

the thing is, is still easier than trying to play around theseus's shield while you have an entire minotaur chasing you

[somber frigate]

Theseus literally only changes his moveset for phase 2

Asterius’s death doesn’t change anything

[stuck oriole]

no he got faster i think

miaybe it was me

i was playing at like 3 am

[somber frigate]

Mmm

He might get a little faster?

[dusty vault]

checked the video I linked and couldn't see anything but because I lowered theseus too much before killing asterius lol

but yeah, even if he does get faster is still gonna be better than having Asterius bothering as you kill theseus

[somber frigate]

It’s still more convientent to split the fight from a 2vs1 into two seperate 1vs1

[dusty vault]

nor do you wanna deal with the god aid while asterius is alive

[stuck oriole]

also asterius isnt THAT hard

[dusty vault]

Theseus is even less

[somber frigate]

so take Asterius out so you don’t have to manage both at the same time

[stuck oriole]

its theseus i hate

but i can handle the

m

[somber frigate]

like you can easily nullify Theseus by taking out Asterius on the other side of the field and then you can focus all your attention on Theseus

[stuck oriole]

its just im also on like 20 hp and have used both of my death defiances

[dusty vault]

aight yeah figured ely itself is causing issues

have you unlocked all weapons yet?

[stuck oriole]

ya

[dusty vault]

(aka can you use titan blood)

[stuck oriole]

i main trident

tho

also wtf is titan blood and wtf is wrong with my weapons that they need investigating

[dusty vault]

lol

interact with the spot where the spear is and you'll see

[somber frigate]

investing

[stuck oriole]

okie one sec

sry cant

[somber frigate]

Like you’ve purchased them all?

[dusty vault]

You have the spear equipped I assume? Or can't check rn

[somber frigate]

just to clairify

[stuck oriole]

ya

[dusty vault]

If they have this prompt they def have all

[stuck oriole]

no i cant check rn

[somber frigate]

You can only invest it from the courtyard not midrun

[stuck oriole]

no i cant go on xbox rn

[dusty vault]

Aight
Short version is that you use titan blood to buy aspects for your weapons

These change the weapon a bit with new buffs/passives

[stuck oriole]

o

badass

[red belfry]

Hi guys, I noticed in the Codex that you can give presents to the gods, if I’m not mistaken (like when you die and get rewards from the guests in the House of Hades by pressing LT). How do I do that? Is it before getting the Boons? I couldn’t figure out

[somber frigate]

prior to picking up a boon

The keepsakes they give are some of the most valuable so you’re going to want to

Plus story

[red belfry]

Oh thanks, I'll look into that!

[somber frigate]

You can gift them at any of their boons that aren’t in a shop

only once (to the same god) per run though iirc

[wide moon]

hi everyone, i started playing yesterday and now i want to cry cause of skeleton hydra

i need to touch some grass then maybe try more

[versed blade]

You got past Meg on your first day? Nice

[wide moon]

also i have a question. i gifted Cerberus some of this orange liquid, he stiil has 3 hearts locked, but i cant give him more. why is that?

[versed blade]

Storyline needs to progress before you can give him more

[wide moon]

ohhh okay

[somber frigate]

Like you’ve gifted them up to the points where the hearts are locked or there are 3 hearts left before that

[wide moon]

3 hearts left in total
like i have to gift him 3 more

[somber frigate]

you need to complete any given npc’s favour to get their final heart(s), and Cereberus’s favour is lowkey just petting him 20 times after you get to the locked hearts

[wide moon]

it's so late for me my English isnt englishing sorry

[versed blade]

It's still better than that of some native speakers I know while they're sober.
Case in point, just had to edit that message for ambiguity.

Aaaaaaanyways... For bone hydra, the first time I beat it was by stockpiling centaur hearts and spamming dash even when I thought I didn't need it. After that, I started learning attack patterns.

[wide moon]

i now have 2 extra lives, +100hp if i die (from Skelly's artifact) but sometimes i lose it all while fighting Meg (or her sisters) lmao
anyways i usually cant get more than 175hp, is that enough?

i learned (or gaslit myself) that Hydra shots in the direction of its head so i try to dash to the opposite direction

[somber frigate]

Should be a good amount

Weak from Aphrodite and hyper sprint from Hermes tend to be really strong options for damage reduction

[shrewd dirge]

is the rama effect a dot or just a one time thing

[wide moon]

how do i change the language of the game? it started in my native language when I installed it, and i want it in English

[dusty vault]

It lasts for a few seconds and procs on all marked enemies whenever you hit something with your attack

[wide moon]

I DID IT

Poseidon's dash was really helpful

[versed blade]

HELL YEAH

[valid lantern]

Finally beat Hades for the first time, at my 152nd run, with my preferred mirror choices almost fully unlocked. I am really quite terrible at Hades, I'm pretty sure

With a Shield Ares build

[shut hill]

My first like 16 clears were with Doom on Shield lol 🤝

Makes the game easier cause you can slow it down

[valid lantern]

So what do I do now? Heat on shield, or the other weapons without heat?

[valid lantern]

I think the spear is the one I have a shot with

[versed blade]

Up to you. 152 runs before getting the first clear does seem like a lot, but the important thing is that you got the clear!

How often do you dash? Most enemies in the game can be largely cheesed at lower heats by spamming dash between attacks.

[valid lantern]

I thought all the time, but I guess not? Although I think my main problem is decision making in the heat of battle

Also I feel like my damage output isn't that large in the late game, which means that some stages, including the bosses just take too long

[versed blade]

What weapon were you using and how?

[shut hill]

Damage output with pure Ares is generally not very good

But it's ok for taking it safe and slow

[valid lantern]

Shield

Mostly the special

[valid lantern]

Really? I had doom on the special with the accumulated hits and the delay plus the shield charge hammer

[versed blade]

Shield special doesn't do a whole lot of damage for the default aspect. You'll get more damage from attack, bull rush, and maybe cast. There are aspects that do more damage with special though

You can only hit once with special and forego the ability to attack for like half a second while you wait for the shield to return. I guess you could run a cast build alongside that...?

[valid lantern]

I mean that's just my build that went best 😄

Mostly it really helped me keep my distance and deal with bullet hell rooms from a distance. It was, also relatively quick at taking down theseus

[median sphinx]

use hera bow

[valid lantern]

Need to unlock it

[shut hill]

*use better hera^ hidden shield

^better hera for me because I suck at aiming

[median sphinx]

beowulf is not better hera

[outer flint]

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-om-nom-om-nom-stories-excited-thrilled-gif-15034965132713744543

[novel swift]

these are lies

[digital lake]

What makes you say that?

[median sphinx]

hera is the best aspect obviously 😭

[dim cloak]

What gods should I go for? I use a mix of spear and shield rn

Also sword and bow though, haven’t unlocked the rest of them yet

[somber frigate]

Spear attacks pretty fast so you’re mainly looking for flat damage on strike and then subsequent gods depend on who you find for strike tbh

like zeus strike is a big fan of aphro or artemis later while dionysus absolutely needs aphro a lot more and ares really cares about athena special into athena dash and nabbing the athena ares duo

[dim cloak]

Wait can you get multiple boons on your strike in h1?

[somber frigate]

No

[dim cloak]

Or am I misreading

[somber frigate]

I mentioned three options for strikes

Not 3 boons you can get at the same time

[dim cloak]

Oh yea mb

[versed blade]

Default aspects?

[somber frigate]

They mentioned they don’t have the last two weapons unlocked yet

So they can’t have aspects

[shrewd dirge]

is there any trick to the beo rush
i cant do it as smoothly as the other playthroughs ive seen
or is it just a keyboard vs controller issue

[shut hill]

I heard that if you're on controller you remap the cast

Sudden Rush and Charged Shot make it faster

Also it's often better to dash closer before doing the rush so it doesn't have to be a long rush

[shrewd dirge]

the main thing is
idk how they go from a rush straight into another rush

[shut hill]

Idrk what you mean

[last furnace]

Generally you don't use all of your casts on one rush

[fresh bridge]

usually its load 1 cast into rush repeat

[dusty vault]

Also use dash strikes to start your rushes

[shrewd dirge]

are there any dmg bugs aside from mirage shot

for the beo shield

[dusty vault]

Trippy flare on beo gets double value from poms

[fresh bridge]

uhhh theres rare crop that makes cshot do less damage

[shrewd dirge]

does that make it outscale aphro cast

[dusty vault]

In terms of raw dmg yeah but is still the 3rd best flare overall

As it sacrifices a lot of consistency vs flood/passion flares

You wanna use stygian soul to get your casts back faster so you need to get extra casts with more urgency, you need to find the 2 mirage gods, ideally one in tartarus so you can force the other in aspho

[shrewd dirge]

stygian soul better?

i thought extra casts was better to nuke bosses with

[dusty vault]

For trippy flare in specific

Other flares drop the cast immediately

Flare stays on the ground for 5s, stygian regens in 3s

[shrewd dirge]

is stygian better on achilles spear tho

[dusty vault]

If you are doing crystal beam yeah

Otherwise just infernal

[shrewd dirge]

what about hunting blades

[dusty vault]

Is 4s vs 3s in this case

It can be more high roll if you wanna use stygian but infernal is great still

[shut hill]

I also heard there was a weird bug with Passion Flare that made its AoE smaller in some cases

I think it had something to do with replacing a different Flare

[dusty gulch]

Whats the realm you get chaos boons in called?

[shut hill]

Chaos

[dusty gulch]

Is it literally just called chaos?

Oh okay gotcha!

[dull egret]

how do you actually make builds in this game? like it just feels like whether you win or lose is 100% a gamble

[somber frigate]

It’s not that bad tbh. Keepsakes are a cornerstone to starting builds, and then from there it’s a lot of decision making.

Traditionally, you start with the keepsake for your main god in tartarus. 75% of the time the core you want is going to be available on your first boon (even if your first boon is delayed by the 1/4 chance to start with a hammer). Then the second important god for your build is usually forced into asphodel if you can’t find them in tartarus. You can replace it with a nice third god if you find them in tart, otherwise just the second god (most builds mainly care about 2 gods anyways).

Making use of the god pool should help you increase the consistency of your build. Whenever you take a boon from a regular olympian god (so not Hermes and not Chaos), they are added to your god pool from the run (and cannot be removed). When you get 4 gods in your god pool, the game only shows you those gods, so instead of pulling randomly from all 8 gods, it generates only the 4 gods you already have when choosing at doors

[dull egret]

you got any good videos on beginner stuff?

[somber frigate]

not really?

Lemme try to simplify it.
use keepsakes to guarantee the gods you want
Once you have to gods you want, just grab 1-2 more to get to 4 gods (not hermes or chaos they don’t count) so the game only shows you those 4 gods from now on

Hermes and chaos both work differently so are outside these rules

Is that more understandable?

[dull egret]

yeah, i think the issue is ive been relying on butterfly

how should i know what boons to grab?

[versed blade]

Flat damage boons (like Ares doom) for weak attacks, percent increases for big damage attacks (for example, sword special)

Artemis dash strike if you're running bow

[somber frigate]

1. Use what arthur said as a rule of thumb ^
2. ask
3. experience

[dusty vault]

Once you get the codex boon index you can also just experiment (which yeah is pretty much experience)

[versed blade]

Also, consider what you'll actually use. Zag bow's special generally sucks, so you'll want to buff attack, dash strike, and cast
Sword can use everything, so getting a variety of boons that apply debuffs for each type of attack would be beneficial
Rail benefits more from casts than the other weapons
Stuff like that

[dusty vault]

Sometimes you'll see a duo that sounds fun enough and that's a build (shoutout blizzard shot)

[versed blade]

Or maybe you struggle on witches in Asphodel and grab a random deflect boon from Athena. Really depends on your playstyle with a given weapon

[dusty vault]

When in doubt, click divine/tidal dash

[versed blade]

If you're new to fists, Poseidon boon knockaway effects can be a little much

but yeah otherwise hard to go wrong with them

[vague gate]

Alternatively, shackle

W/Athena or pos dash

[outer flint]

no twin

shackle for hestia only

anything else is sacrilige

[wide moon]

IT HAS A POOL

dang thats why I couldn't get any Demetra's keepsakes

[versed blade]

Demetra

[wide moon]

why?????

[versed blade]

Her name is Demeter.

[wide moon]

I'm esl 😭😭😭 that's how her name sounds in my language and that's what Google told me.. so yeah...

[sweet brook]

Ngl a lot of videos that exist out there for hades aren't really good for learning, a lot of the popular videos are more for content than actually good

A handful are good and helpful but most of them aren't lmao

I think most of the guides for this game are written guides which are generally mostly for speedrunning

[pearl prawn]

Hiii!!! Im not sure if i exactly count as new, but i just wanted to ask if it’s worthwhile to offer nectar to bouldy because i found out that that’s a thing u can do apparently

[shut hill]

Gives you a small boost to something (like attack power, coins, or nothing)

[pearl prawn]

Gotcha! Ty!!!

[versed blade]

Nectar is renewable. Eventually, it will be the only thing you can spend nectar on, so you might as well. Bouldy boons often don't do much, though, so if you just want to complete the story, use it on people first.

[pearl prawn]

Ouuuu oki ty

[shrewd dirge]

how good is curse of drowning on beowulf

[sweet brook]

iirc not attainable on beowulf lmfao

[dusty vault]

Hera is the one that can't

[sweet brook]

oh nvm then

so bad that it should be unattainable on beowulf

[versed blade]

NOOOO THE VOICES
I got this on a run with 6 casts and I couldn't purge it

it SUCKED

[shut hill]

It is terrible but kinda fun lol

I don't know how it scales with loading multiple casts though my brain kinda turned off when I used it before

[dusty vault]

It also makes you unable to get mirage shot

And removes the advantage of charged shot if you have it

[pale marsh]

How beat Charon?😭

[versed blade]

Multiple casts makes them fire one after the other

[versed blade]

Try fighting him in Elysium instead of Tartarus so you have more boons when that time rolls around.

[undone badger]

guys ive killed hades like 3 or 4 times and its getting tedious and idek if i want to keep going for the true ending should i just start hades 2 and like watch a video of how hades 1 ends or what

like how much am i really missing if i dont get the true ending myself and just watch a video?

[versed blade]

If you don't like the gameplay loop, the most advisable thing would be to switch games or activities. It sounds like you don't like the game and there's not really much that can be done about that.

[undone badger]

i like the gameplay loop

its just like

ive killed this man like 5 times bro and its getting a little annoying lol

[versed blade]

The thing is, killing him will be a part of every successful run that you do. Which means you don't like the gameplay loop.

Nothing wrong with that, to be clear. A game loses quality if it tries to appeal to everyone.

[undone badger]

bro if i didnt like the gameplay loop i wouldnt have 27 hours on it 😭

[somber frigate]

Annoying how?

[undone badger]

its just tedious idk like i wish he changed it up every time or somthin

[merry zinc]

the humble extreme measures 4

oh wait by true ending you mean the actual story ending

uh

if you're not finding the motivation to finish hades 1's story then I doubt you're going to find the motivation for hades 2

[undone badger]

no no trust guys i will

i bought hades 2 weeks ago so im doing it anyways lol

cant refund now

and i love hades like its good and fun but im tried of hades being a boring ah boss like why does he never change anything after beating him so much

thats my only issue with the game lol

[sweet brook]

Different weapons/builds can help with that imo

But otherwise can't really do much about that atm lmao

[undone badger]

yeah thats true

im using the spear since i dont use it much

[sudden reef]

You only fight ||Hades|| at the very end. It makes sense that the journey before that has more random variation (particularly since it'll probably take 10+ runs before you start winning). Like all bosses, fighting ||him|| takes only a couple of minutes. It's not like the other bosses change that much either. I'd say the Furies change the most overall, but even then it's only one of three different variations that you'll see over and over again. I'd find it weird if this is the only reason you don't want to start another run.

[dull egret]

are there any aspects that are particularly worth getting first?

[last furnace]

which weapon do you like

[dull egret]

Bow particularly, I've got the seeking special one, and i particularly dislike the claws, all else neutral

[somber frigate]

Sword: nemesis (main functionality is gained at level 1, subsequents improve it)
Spear: achilles (solid at level 1, but vastly improves with more more levels)
Shield: zeus (main functionality at level 1)
Bow: hera (lvl 1 functionality) zag (needs more levels, also isn’t as crazy absurd but is less input heavy)
Fists: demeter (needs more levels)
Rail: eris (always good) or hestia (hestia needs lots of levels)

[dull egret]

Thanks a ton!

[shut hill]

Hera at low level is particularly good with Stygian Soul

[novel swift]

Eh

Infernal still is better on Hera, even at low levels

Assuming you build around it properly

[somber frigate]

even if you do a bad job building it, most enemies should die to a 2-3 of your casts at a maximum (better build is more like 1-2)

Then you get all your casts back

[dull egret]

is there any particular reason i might not be seeing any ambsoia in my runs? i havent seen it in a solid 10 runs

[dusty vault]

Ambrosia is only dropped from the 3rd boss when killed for the first time with a weapon
If you meant nectar, is just rare to see it as room rewards

Grab the dio boon that gives you a freebie nectar or trade 10 keys for 1 at the lounge if you really need/don't have other uses for keys left

[dull egret]

i meant nectar, thanks for the info must just be unlucky

[undone badger]

lowkey i was still playing while i said that lol i just wanted to complain about somthin idek lolll

thanks for the response and yeah your right

[humble ridge]

I need to get back in pace I got slimed by fury sisters with 3 health Regen

[modern wadi]

Finaly Meg has noticed that she has 6 nectar in bagpack xD

I was worried that I broke sth

[leaden whale]

Hi I am dying a lot what should I do to improve

Get good?

Also the story seems to keep progressing even when I die

Is there any source where I can watch the lore only

In organised manner

[fresh bridge]

events still occur as you do runs, win or lose yes, however eventually some story beats are locked behind winning runs, and im unaware of lore videos

[modern wadi]

try to use goods mode - its help if game is to hard for you, and you want to just go with story

Above that, dont worry: the core of this game is Zagreus's death; the story continues, and you always find pleasant tidbits of lore in the hub. My advice: choose always weapons that grant Darkness boosts, choose boosts that aid dashing (you would dodge anyway, so why not grantet it with demage?), move a lot, and try to memorize how mobs work. Survival is paramount, so the more Centaur Hearts you have, the better. I run the first games with a Cerberus collar (+50 life), and even now, on the last map, I always take an additional resurrection. Upgrade in mirror traits that grant resurections and so on... You have to lose runes. Losing is part of the game's mechanics.

[versed blade]

What weapon (s) and what source(s) of death?

[leaden whale]

Okay i am using god mode now will try again i keep dying to that good looking lady

[leaden whale]

I use the spare and reason of death is a gorgeous women

[versed blade]

Don't forget that the spear gives you range on your attacks. Between that and dashing whenever she winds up for an attack, you should be able to avoid her almost every time.

[shrewd dirge]

always take flurry jab when you see it
the woman won't be able to kill you then

[viscid skiff]

Hellooo

Just picked it up again. I can't explain why, but this game scratches the same itch in my unga bunga monkey brain as dark souls does

The shield seems very strong?

[shrewd dirge]

What’s the placement to hit both Theseus and asterius with Meg
I stand in front of Theseus and the line goes the wrong way

[shut hill]

Look upwards and hit summon

Don't have to move at all just face to the top

[leaden whale]

I don't like the shield

[versed blade]

It is. Being able to block attacks while still shelling out good DPS is pretty ridiculous.

[modern wadi]

Ok, ty guys for your tips, ive just playd boewulf aspect and it is hillarious!!!! ❤️ with posidon help in gems... ive never cleaned room so fast

Next run I will try to get hermes achievement with it

[versed blade]

What was your time for the run?

[viscid skiff]

The bull rush is also very funny

Can I also just take a second to say; poor hades

He's never escaping the villain depictions huh

Given that he's on the nicer side of the Greek pantheon (which is admittedly not saying much) he's been very hard done by in adaptations

[modern wadi]

I disagree with you, Hades is a great character in game

[vagrant shore]

what do i do guys i just reached my room and idk what to do

[modern wadi]

||not so vilanish after all||

i dont know if I should write it in spoiler XD

[modern wadi]

go for second run?

[modern wadi]

||I love how it changes during game, and how new informations show us Hades as a complex character with his values, flaws but also charm. Persephone gives a lot of insight about Hades, and I realy like this little chat afer each fight with him after "end credits"||

[viscid skiff]

Aw

[viscid skiff]

He's a great character, the real hades was just a lot nicer is all

And it's almost a running gag at this point that hades always gets the short end of the stick in modern adaptations

[viscid skiff]

Ooooo ok not touching that but I'll take your word that there's more to the story

[modern wadi]

There is

[viscid skiff]

I'll reserve judgement on this hades for later

[modern wadi]

Trust the proces

I dobt know if tou know Epic the musical?

Jorge whant to put Hades line in one piece and with a gentle and calm maner

[viscid skiff]

Who's the narrator?

Are they significant

Zag can obviously hear him

[modern wadi]

I dont know yet

Im not sure if it would be known

😶‍🌫️

[viscid skiff]

Oh I'm assuming I get to meet the other furies at some point

The first one has already kicked my ass once

[modern wadi]

😏

[somber frigate]

Homer iirc

[modern wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/megaera-hades-game-meg-hades-fury-gif-19153429

[somber frigate]

I don’t think it’s explicitly stated in game ever

[viscid skiff]

so that's why he's a jerk

[modern wadi]

I am still very curious about letter situation

From the very beginning

[viscid skiff]

Wait I'm thinking of someone else

[modern wadi]

Cos Zagreus dont sleep a all however somehow he went to bed

[somber frigate]

?

[viscid skiff]

Greek mythology is so unbelievably dense

It's great but it can be confusing sometimes

And I forget who wrote what sometimes

[somber frigate]

He can sleep if he wants to thou

[viscid skiff]

Anyway since persephone isn't here I take that to mean either A) she's visiting the surface or B)

Actually I don't know what B could be

[modern wadi]

Keep playing, plot is really satysfaying

[viscid skiff]

As soon as I'm home

[modern wadi]

I was stuned

[viscid skiff]

Which is very nearly

[modern wadi]

Hehe me to

[viscid skiff]

But yeah she's obviously allowed to visit the surface

So my guess is she's up there plotting to help me

My guess though

I am really enjoying this game

And all the little mysteries

[modern wadi]

🍇

Its greate

My.adhd brain is totally in love with lore

[somber frigate]

I’m surprised you’ve got to the overworld prior to seeing the other furies ngp

[viscid skiff]

Oh is that a fruit tree just beyond the gate next to the door to my room?

[somber frigate]

Yeah

[viscid skiff]

Is it exactly what I think it is?

[somber frigate]

Persephone usually takes care of it

[viscid skiff]

Oh

[somber frigate]

I don’t think it’s the right colour for a pomegrante tree

[viscid skiff]

Aw

I wanted to bully tantalus

[modern wadi]

Why?!

[viscid skiff]

Because he deserves it?

[modern wadi]

oh sorry I missread it

I thought you whant to bully sbd else

[viscid skiff]

Oh my god

I only just realized

Why Dusa is only a head

[sudden reef]

In H2 ||Melinoë namedrops him pretty early on since she can also hear his narration like Zag.||

[viscid skiff]

Thanks perseus

[somber frigate]

Presumably because perseu-

nevermind you got it

[viscid skiff]

SISYPHUS

Oh yeah I haven't seen Apollo or Hera yet

[viscid skiff]

Am I going crazy or is zag in a significantly worse mood this run ||now that he knows Persephone is his mum||

[shut hill]

He knows from the start though, that was just a flashback and is the whole reason he's trying to escape

[viscid skiff]

Ooohhhh

And that's why he's not planning on ||going to mt olympus||

[modern wadi]

32.17, my new record in fact, omg this beowulf shield .. im so in love

[somber frigate]

So

you aren’t going to

[viscid skiff]

Aw

Booooo

[somber frigate]

I’m not sure he could even get there before the curse of the styx catches up to him

[viscid skiff]

Is asking where they are a spoiler

[somber frigate]

eh

not really?

mt Olympus (they literally just aren’t featured in game)

The devs made a comment about Apollo just being so similiar to Artemis iirc and deciding to just stick to the 8 olympians

iirc

[viscid skiff]

The gank in megaera's fight is starting to piss me off

Specifically the witches

Woah

I think I accidentally wondered in to ||tartarus||

[shut hill]

Pretty sure this isn't a spoiler but they're in ||Hades 2||

[viscid skiff]

So there's no checkpoints huh

Wasn't expecting the bow to hit like an absolute truck

[somber frigate]

That’s pretty typical for the genre

each run starts from scratch

frankly it wouldn’t really work with checkpoints

[viscid skiff]

THE BOW JUST DESTEOYED MEGAERA

Once you get perfect shot it's just nuts

[modern wadi]

@viscid skiff im so excited about your reaction with special ghost in 3rd biom ||Elysium|| it was the biggest joy for me

[somber frigate]

That’s the thing

bow has 4 more hammers that are just as silly strong

[versed blade]

Noice

[pearl anvil]

Is it generally bad to take both zues attack and special on mel torches

I already have it on special but wasnt sure if i would gain much from also adding it to my attack

[somber frigate]

Wrong chat

#h2-for-new-players

[pearl anvil]

I just realized sorry thank you

[viscid skiff]

I'm assuming when you choose a boon in a trial of the gods you can't get the other for the rest of the run?

[last furnace]

huh?

you get both of them

[viscid skiff]

Never mind

Never beat one before

[last furnace]

ah okay

the rooms are harder, in return you get 2 boons

[viscid skiff]

Mmm yummy titans blood

[wooden parcel]

Hello there, just clear the game for the first time. Wanna improve with the bow. Some advises for the build or general game play ?

[somber frigate]

The first step to improving with bow is usually dash-striking more

and playing a bit closer to enemies so you can take advantage of the numerous bow hammers that boost you hard close up

like twin shot / triple shot / point blank shot / explosive shot

[wooden parcel]

A bit counter-intuitive 🫨 i'll try this way

Thanks !

[somber frigate]

Counter-intuitive how?

oh in the range sense I assume

yeah being up close also lets you really benefit from the best dps dashes as well like tidal dash or blade dash

[versed blade]

Artemis keepsake and gun for the dash boon

[somber frigate]

hunter dash isn’t something to live or die by for the bows ngl

as a zag bow main (the one aspect that benefits the most from it)

[wooden parcel]

Yes in the range sense. I always try to be as far as possible. I'll try close range, with artemis dash and a close range buff with hammer

[shrewd dirge]

guys how do i gift dad if hes never in the house anymore?
do i just die on purpose or smth

[modern wadi]

He would be dont worry

[fresh bridge]

me when i forget ||rama||

[shrewd dirge]

i havent seen him in like 10 runs

[leaden whale]

Is there no checkpoint?

Like save point or something

[last furnace]

in runs? no

like not if you die

you can exit the run and come back

[fresh bridge]

well you can quit out mid run to return to the point where you were at ^^^

[leaden whale]

My resistance keep increasing

What if it becomes 100

[fresh bridge]

caps out at 80%

[frigid matrix]

am I the only one who disabled the button on the thing that Chaos didn't want you using during the curse?

[dusty vault]

I don't think is the first time I've heard that but tbh is chip dmg

[somber frigate]

Probably not? I can’t imagine unbinding and rebinding the settings every single time I want to pick one of those curses thou

[fresh bridge]

not the first time ive seen someone mention doing that

[wooden parcel]

I tried the bow with artemis dash. Actually, trigerring the dash every time and aim the good target isn’t so simple. But damage is good.

I dieu one time to Alecto in Tartarius. Than I stopped the run for now

[leaden whale]

[lost parcel]

When it picks something like arthur's special (and I don't have zero healing thing) there's a chance I'll just ignore it and take the damage once or twice in a room lol

[opaque depot]

I got the ending, should I move on to hades 2 or is there something important?

[somber frigate]

Epilogue

If you want to

If you like the gameplay you’re like 1% into it atp as well

[topaz scroll]

is there any way to reduce the projectile vomit in this game?
I've beaten it once already and got to hades repeatedly with no heat

[topaz scroll]

I hate hades

[outer flint]

You can avoid rooms with it

Athena dash will fix most of your issues because it deflects projectiles

The rooms with projectiles are mostly the mini boss rooms for Asphodel and Elysium

[topaz scroll]

my issue isn't the other rooms apart from theseus
it's just hades

I got to hades with every single weapon apart from the gun consistently

hades orbs are the most annoying thing

[topaz scroll]

getting to hades is such a chore

[modern wadi]

I learnt his moves by multiple dashes from hermes. I didnt kill orbs, just avoid ray of underworld sunshinethem. Try to beat him with zeus built (dash and thunder xD). Also I need few runs to get, that during laser I should hide next to huge stone but maybe you already know that.

[topaz scroll]

I hate the mechanical inconsistency
You can dodge his laser using the rock but you can't dodge his melee strikes or the green wave using the rock

[modern wadi]

yeah, but you can take shield and its block each of it

personaly i still learn how to use it

[topaz scroll]

I already beat him with shield

[modern wadi]

nice!

[topaz scroll]

I did sword and shield runs

I have made it to Hades 100% of the time using sword

Apart from resource farming runs

[modern wadi]

shield was the last thing I use to beat him xD

I had seen credits before it happened

[topaz scroll]

I got to Hades first during run 18

Beat him first time run 23 I think

3 bow attemps, 1 spear attempt then shield

And now 5 sword attempts until I beat him with the sword

[modern wadi]

hmm, wait I check mine stats

[modern wadi]

First time with twin fists (my fav) 37 attempt

I take always weapon with bonus to darknes and gems

So... it is so random

Omg i find zag on the board in saloon

[outer flint]

I guess, but the rock is only there for the laser phases. If you have the double dash (greater reflex) the timing to dodge his melee attacks with the i-frames is very generous.

[versed blade]

Even with single dash, it's entirely possible, albeit moderately difficult.

[river talon]

Greetings to all, tell me which setup is best suited to complete the punishment pact with the 8th skull?

[little spade]

just getting back into hades 1 after only playing 2 for a really long time, and i have a new save

a long time as in several years since ive played 1

i remember when i still played it i had escaped once

what would be a good setup with the sword for me to try to use?

i remember it being my favorite weapon and it does seem fun so im using it

[versed blade]

What weapons, what does your playstyle normally look like, and how fast have you cleared previously?

[river talon]

When I first went through Aida, I used gloves, but now I prefer playing through a shield and gloves

I've completely upgraded Zeus' shield

[versed blade]

Zeus shield is really good at removing blue hearts fast. So that's 2/8 heat right off the bat

[modern wadi]

yeah

[versed blade]

Heightened security shouldn't be too bad, so that's 3/8

Extreme measures 1 and 2, 6/8

Probably middle management or benefits package for the last two

And if you think heightened security would suck but you can get clears in under 36 minutes, you could swap it out for tight deadline

[dusty vault]

Def no security

||you do not want pots doing 150 for 1 heat||

[versed blade]

Never had a problem with those, interestingly.

That being said, my 32 heat pact had EM4 JS3 CP2 so I might have some interesting takes regarding pact conditions

[dusty vault]

[somber frigate]

The SSG server might be cursed to always have someone spouting some of the takes of all time about pact options

[grave prawn]

my own 32 had ap2 and td0 💪

js3 and cp2 too i think

[versed blade]

ap2 is wild

[topaz scroll]

doom runs feels so slow even with merciful end

[shrewd dirge]

guys
how do i get the option to buy the eldest sigil
nyx told me to go to the admin chamber but ive found nothing
and its not showing up at the contracter

[last furnace]

You want Athena on dash as well

[topaz scroll]

I did

[last furnace]

Then just spam dash strike and you should be good

Stuff should melt

[topaz scroll]

it just feels so slow

[last furnace]

Don't even worry about special

Or normal attacks

Just casts for boiling blood against bigger enemies

[modern wadi]

maybe next visit in home

[shrewd dirge]

got it thx

[leaden whale]

What's your favourite weapon so far I like the spear and the knuckle

[dusty vault]

What level was your doom? Rarity, did you have good hermes?

A lot of things can affect it

Impending doom too

[modern wadi]

Gloves with claws

Enkidu aspect my beloved

However I try to make run with max dodge effect now, so basic fists are also an option.

[shrewd dirge]

god ice wine is so bad on beowulf

literally rerolled a well to sell it

[naive plank]

||what do I have to do to unlock hermes heart? I havnt played in forever but I will 100% this game. And for malphon how do I unlock last aspect?||

[dusty vault]

||talk to him with his keepsake at max level||

For fists: ||put 5 blood on them, equip them and talk to asterius until he acknowledges that you are using them, after that keep talking to him until he gives the awakening phrase||

And I assume you have the other hidden aspects?

[naive plank]

Yea

How do we get the blood again ?

[dusty vault]

Killing 1st and last boss with a weapon for the first time

Use the ||pact of punishment to refresh bounties by upping the heat to what the game asks for||

[naive plank]

Thanks for the help man!

[plain yacht]

guys i mostly main the bow of chiron

am i a weirdo

[last furnace]

no

[somber frigate]

It’s a pretty common main

[plain yacht]

i just find it better than the other weapons cuz i have range

and can keep my distance

from the enemies

[naive plank]

Whats the best boon for fist again?

[junior pelican]

of all probably merciful end, but it's somewhat annoying to get

[naive plank]

What do I gotta grab exactly to try to get that?

[somber frigate]

Ares/athena duo, needs ares on strike or special and athena on the other

It has such strict requirements because it was actually too strong when you could use divine dash to find the duo

It causes enemies that have doom to instantly take the doom damage when hit with an ability that deflects

so you can dash-strike into enemies with doom on strike and divine dash

[naive plank]

By duo. Ur referring to when they are both in a room together? Or what idr exactly been while

[junior pelican]

a duo boon is when two goods "team up" creating a special boone

where the boone has abilities from both gods

[somber frigate]

Every pair of regular gods have a duo boon between them that you can find after you have certain pre-requisite boons from both gods

[naive plank]

Ok so if im understanding right. I need ares and Athena attack boons. Once I do there is chance to trigger duo?

[somber frigate]

So Merciful End is the Ares/Athena duo, and it has pretty strict requirements to be able to find the boon

then you have a chance for it to be one of your options whenever you pick up a boon from either god once you meet those requirements

[naive plank]

Ok thanks guy's I will try see if I can get. Would you guys be able to tell me the best aspect with each weapin too?

[somber frigate]

Speed:
Sword - Nemesis
Spear - Achilles
Shield - Hidden Shield
Bow - Hera
Fist - Demeter
Rail - Eris

Heat (40-50+ is where they really outshine other aspects, but they are excellent before that)
Sword - Nemesis
Spear - Hidden Spear
Shield - Zeus
Bow - Hidden Bow
Fists - Demeter
Rail - Hestia (& Eris)

[versed blade]

Isn't the heat record for Eris currently above Hestia? Or are they the same?

[naive plank]

Thanks man!

[sweet brook]

should be above i think but like

hestia is still a lot easier than eris for heat lmao

[somber frigate]

Way easier until you hit the point where you need dc

[versed blade]

I was about to say...

Exagryph: "PURPLE POWER"
one teeny bloo hart bois: "NOPE"

[naive plank]

Got the boon!

[naive plank]

||after defeating charon do we keep the discount or just per run?||

[outer flint]

per run

[naive plank]

Thanks and for the mission. Its just if I dont lose next time I beat right not hope to fight him the next run?

[sudden reef]

Yeah. Doesn't matter when you fight him next.

[heavy girder]

hey guys im new to hades, ive successfully cleared 2 escape attempts so far, i just wanna know, what should i first focus on to become op?

[little spade]

what keepsakes should i be trying to get? i have: cerberus, achilles, nyx, skelly, charon, hypnos, sysiphus

ive just been leaving on the skelly keepsake bc i have nothing better to use lol

[versed blade]

Olympian god keepsakes are essential for buildmaking. Eurydice for bosses. Skelly for an extra death defiance.

[little spade]

ok ty

[versed blade]

Play around with stuff and see what works. That'll benefit you more than any specific strategy at only 2 clears

[little spade]

what should i pick here? i have aspect of hera on, no other boons but i do have a hammer for special damage to armor

stuck between ares attack and ares special

cant decide which

ima go with attack

[shut hill]

Special generally doesn't matter on Hera

[little spade]

sorry i meant aspect of chiron

its fine that run's over

[shut hill]

Oh well in that case Ares is pretty decent on attack

Especially if you have Dionysus on special

Their duo is good

[dusty vault]

ares can open the duo with the vengeance boon

[dusty vault]

what was the third option?

[little spade]

“your cast sends a blade rift hurtling ahead”

I know it’s good, i just wanted to keep boiling blood :p

[dusty vault]

depending on what special you were gonna aim for it kinda doesn't matter

or you could have sold later

[thick belfry]

thank you supergiant for putting this game on a godly sale right in time for my birthday

[topaz scroll]

I don't enjoy any weapon except the sword

[topaz scroll]

what's the meta build for every weapon?

[shut hill]

This guide covers builds for every aspect

https://www.leereamsnyder.com/hades-build-guide

[fresh bridge]

that does have some slight spoilers for some stuff but it is a great resource

[leaden whale]

Will i ever beat hades himself

I am crying

😭

[river talon]

upgrade the mirror, then you will succeed, unless of course you have crooked hands lol

[leaden whale]

This my third time xd

Was

I wish there was some safe point

[river talon]

Well, there's also a mercy mode, but to be honest, I haven't seen it yet

[leaden whale]

I am playing in god mode

[river talon]

Maybe it's a hellish regime

[leaden whale]

I g I need to plan my build from next time

Without spoiler what to expect after hades

[river talon]

I was just playing in normal mode, I just want to go through the storyline and then start warming up, sweating, spinning and all that

[somber frigate]

The gameplay wouldn’t make sense with a check-point

[leaden whale]

Normal mode easier?

[somber frigate]

Everyone does eventually just keep going at it

[river talon]

It seems like I just saw God's mode and didn't click on it

[somber frigate]

[river talon]

[somber frigate]

More of what you’re already doing

[leaden whale]

I see

[river talon]

I'll tell you this, when I started playing, I couldn't do it either, then I started slowly rocking the mirror and then I started going through Hades with all the weapons I had

[leaden whale]

I like the spear too much

Knuckle is second

I don't like the gun reload

[river talon]

Spears is most loved because it can make a oneshot if you make the right combinations

[leaden whale]

Ohhhh

[river talon]

Drunken bullets, I'd say

[somber frigate]

Lightning

I’m a large fan of bow and rail but I try to use all the weapons about the same amount

[river talon]

But I love his DAMN ROCKET LAUNCHER like mini atomic bomb lol

[river talon]

I'm more of a shield and glove fan than throwing uppercuts at opponents, and this is the first time I've passed Hades just by beating him on the sidelines

[somber frigate]

*nevermind I just realised I have nearly 2x as many clears with rail as I do with spear

They are not equally used

[somber frigate]

Ngl

this is a pretty common way to get a first victory

[river talon]

what should I start with and I chose gloves, but now I'm trying to pass Hades with 8 skulls with a shield, but so far without success, but in the meantime I'm trying new duos of gods

[somber frigate]

If you want to use the fists there are like 3 decent build options if you’d like a choice

Using either hangover or lightning as the base is going to be pretty consistent, or Ares for merciful end is harder to obtain but typically stronger

[river talon]

Is it necessary to knock out the legendary gift from Ares?

[somber frigate]

Not really

The legendary boon from Ares needs you to be focused on the blade rifts part of his kit (cast/dash/call) while the build only wants his strike for doom

and then shoots for his duo with athena

[river talon]

so it turns out that I need the duo of Ares and Athena and just upgrade their duo?(if you don't take as an example the gifts for recovery from other gods)

[somber frigate]

You can’t upgrade a duo

The duo causes anything that has doom to immediately take the doom damage when you hit it with an ability that deflects

So you want to pump all your damage into the doom damage

but you want athena special to find the duo (it’s one of the requirements) and divine dash from her so all your dashes have deflect

[river talon]

Okay, so I'll rock their duo, but how about the hammer?

[somber frigate]

Breaching Cross (basically removes all enemies armour) Long Knuckle (convient sometimes when you want to stay farther away) and explosive upper for big dash-upper damage

Breaching Cross is pretty much just the best fists hammer

[river talon]

Thanks a lot buddy, tomorrow I'll go through this little nightmare with renewed vigor

And I am sure that I will succeed🤞

[grave prawn]

i respect your opinion but I'm a long knuckle enjoyer

[somber frigate]

[leaden whale]

Finally killed Hades let's goooo

[river talon]

Congratulations, dear man, now all you have to do is go through the punishment pact

[drowsy path]

who do i pick?

I got into a room where the Gods want me to pick a favorite, and it's between Artemis or Aphrodite

I choose Aphrodite because I think weak is good, and I got killed instantly

[shut hill]

You'll end up getting both boons if you survive the trial

I personally find Artemis' trial easier than Aphrodite's

[drowsy path]

https://klipy.com/gifs/pharrell-happy-song

[modern wadi]

I always get killed during Artemis xD

[keen axle]

hey everyone, i'm new to this Discord and looking for some help. i played through a fair amount of Hades a couple of years ago but have just come back to it and a bit lost. I've read through some guides that help with builds but still not getting too far, partly because some of the language used i just don't follow - i probably need some more basic "pick this boon and that boon". I've just fallen to the final boss with a Chiron Bow build, using a Dionysis/Aphrodite pair of boons, but beyond that i was just picking what looked best at the time. Any guidance appreciated, thanks 🙂

[versed blade]

You can't really guarantee specific boons 100% of the time. If you're playing without heat, your issue is almost certainly basic mechanics as opposed to boon choice.

Don't forget to dash frequently. You get iframes

[fresh bridge]

but do remember dash loses iframes the moment you initiate an attack

[keen axle]

I think the basics will be where I'm missing some things. Last night I got to the 2nd phase of final boss with the fists, mainly using dash-strike for most rooms. Seems a bit basic though! I dont know what frames are.

[inland arch]

what about hera cast and another dash? (while you have no other dash)

[leaden whale]

How many times do i need to beat hades

[sudden reef]

||10 times for the credits.||

However, ||during the tenth escape attempt, he'll refuse to fight and just lets you go.||

[fresh bridge]

loading cast into hera bow loses iframes, initiating another dash grants i frames again i believe bc its a dif dash? or are you saying while zag is still monodash

[inland arch]

pressing dash during dash while you don't have any other charges/while you can't dash anymore

[fresh bridge]

? nothing happens

[leaden whale]

6 more to go i am gonna die btw do i need to complete that task or something where I need to escape using all different different weapons?

Knuckle is so much easier so I have been spamming it

[somber frigate]

You can just use one weapon to get to the credits if you want

[leaden whale]

Will I miss anything? Important?

Except for maybe achivement

[half sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262142385429807184/1474824293329404035/image.png?ex=699b40a8&is=6999ef28&hm=2fffdbe31423c088475d78bac0205a984caa01d3cc525e5496a76908efd899ae& what do i pick here?

[somber frigate]

I’d pick up strong drink

[half sky]

i took triphy shot

[somber frigate]

Not the worst pick in the world

[half sky]

it seems pretty nice i keep on dying to meg tho lol on my runs (im a new player)

[somber frigate]

I guess strong drink isn’t nearly as much value then

sorry brb

[half sky]

what are gem stones btw?

[versed blade]

Generally speaking, take % damage increases for strong attacks (like sword special) and flat damage for weak attacks (like bow special).

[half sky]

alight thx i use the bow cuz its good at long and short sometimes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262142385429807184/1474827688102461491/image.png?ex=699b43d1&is=6999f251&hm=6839f1de712989bb49d1fa697a83ccf3cf89550ca55cdf9b7c2e3b0501b7266d& holy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262142385429807184/1474827866285019146/image.png?ex=699b43fc&is=6999f27c&hm=bc6536bbf771a1242ca0244bc80a45d10c988edd8b23320a701798d7e3dc2523& what do i pick

[versed blade]

Despair probably

[half sky]

i took it

LETS GO KILLED MEG

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262142385429807184/1474830261798834347/image.png?ex=699b4637&is=6999f4b7&hm=74666aead681a1a3fbb2a00ad2730bba70322e97c4c51600f5501738d8a545ba& what do i get

@versed blade

[somber frigate]

How often are you using trippy shot

[somber frigate]

you using them for work orders(upgrades) and furniture (cosmetics for the house of Hades) at the housing contractor

[somber frigate]

What weapon is this?

[half sky]

not much but i took tempest strike then died to some medusa and a shielded dropper

[half sky]

bow

[versed blade]

Generally, play-by-plays are frowned upon in this channel, just FYI

[versed blade]

That's about halfway through Asphodel, not bad

[half sky]

ahh sorry when i started isaac i was doing the same stuff and the whole community was like helping me lol but maybe its diffrent here

if u want i can just dm either of u 2 for help instead of posting here i just need help sometimes

[versed blade]

No thanks
You'll get a feel for your own playstyle eventually and be able to make those decisions for yourself

[half sky]

fair enough lol what weapon should i get do u think? i can buy the shield ive got 3 keys so far

[versed blade]

Shield is pretty busted since you can block attacks

[half sky]

alright

[half sky]

HOLY CRAP THE SHIELD IS GOATED

[somber frigate]

I would’ve taken dying lament to help with all the small enemies

[half sky]

fair enough im pretty sure this run i took a better version of that

[somber frigate]

It helps bow with the little guys so you don’t have to touch thebspecial

[half sky]

i see but im using sheild now and got power rush or wtvr and its SO op

[topaz scroll]

swear thsi game never gives me the boons i want

[sweet brook]

it do be like that sometimes

the last bits of the mirror help with getting the boons you want

god keepsakes are the biggest ones, but past that there isn't too much you can do other than knowing how boons are offered in the menu

[dire valve]

always get artemis boone

[versed blade]

Depends on the weapon

[lapis chasm]

I think maxing out the Family Favorite and Dark Foresight helps with that