git gud
#h1-for-new-players
versed epoch
humble ridge
thesius is so annoying
midnight apex
Agreed
midnight apex
Oh Zeus couldn’t care less if you died
late obsidian
should i buy hades 1 or hades 2 first do i need to play 1 to understand 2 is 2 better?
midnight apex
Haven’t played 2, can’t help you there. But you should play Hades 1, it’s goated.
humble ridge
Oh Zeus couldn’t care less if you died
he should care more Abt the idiots he gives his powers to
😭
midnight apex
It’s effing Zeus, he couldn’t care less about anything
Plus, Theseus is a hero, you’re one of his countless nephews
humble ridge
should i buy hades 1 or hades 2 first do i need to play 1 to understand 2 is 2 b...
you should play 1st part regardless of wanting to understand the lore or not
it's peak
versed epoch
isn't the theseus call supposed to be whoever you don't pick up
so they're like "my nephew no pick me i mad >:["
fresh bridge
isn't the theseus call supposed to be whoever you don't pick up
yep
the failsafe in case you manage to find every god is artemis though
junior rapids
Which is better between fated persuasion/authority and gods legacy/pride?
Also what’s recommended starting keepsake for Achilles spear?
dusty vault
Which is better between fated persuasion/authority and gods legacy/pride?
Persuasion/pride
dusty vault
Also what’s recommended starting keepsake for Achilles spear?
You can do either
-start tidal dash then improvise from there ↓
-if you get ares you can take his cast then artemis for hunting blades
-if you find zeus you can take his attack then look for static discharge/add athena cast for their duo
Otherwise you start your cast of choice and add its corresponding dyos
junior rapids
Is there a list of good duos somewhere? The one I always hear about is merciful end lol, but I got cold fusion once and that seemed good? Also get parting shot a lot but that seems pretty bad
dusty vault
Hmm
Universally good I'd say merciful end or smoldering air
Lightning rod too
Stuff like the hangover duos/heart rend are great build definers
Most like parting shot are def eh
Free 410 gold if you can sell them tho
A lot of it is also that some weapon/build might want X duo but same weapon dif build won't want it
Smoldering air is more universal due to its gods
And merciful end is just dummy strong if obtained
dusty vault
Smoldering air is more universal due to its gods
(aka fitting aphro and zeus into any build is easy)
sweet brook
i made this in like 1 min but it should give like a relatively decent idea
not ordered within the tiers
but it's also pretty aspect/weapon dependent as well
so it's not like very definitive
S is kinda like always build towards since it's basically a free run
A is similar but not as easy win, you still have to work a bit
B is fine, not bad but not outstanding or anything
C is like sure lol (curse of drowning and blizzard shot could be lower or even F but kinda depends on how you play/aspect)
D is not great, there's uses but you're mostly looking to sell
F is actively detrimental (or useless like parting shot)
somber frigate
Awfully kind to unshakeable mettle there
midnight apex
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/839538570738139146/1422059280114126858/...
Lightning Rod is S? I’d put it in A.
novel swift
sea storm in b :(
midnight apex
I’d put that in A
novel swift
and mirage(im not biased at all)
midnight apex
I’d arguably put that in S, cuz it’s so broken on the higher forms of play, but still A overall
And as much as it saddens me, ice wine is NOT A
robust raven
Mirage?
somber frigate
They just said they finished their second attempt innngeneral lmao
novel swift
bruh
somber frigate
srry
odds r they don’t know what a duo is yet but it’s essentially like a boon between two gods
robust raven
Yeah, I just played silksong
midnight apex
Yeah, I just played silksong
Wooo me too
AIGHT BACK TO HADES
robust raven
Turns out the absolute fear of god that game put into me got me through a solid chunk of the game
I gave skelly my first ambrosia bottle cuz funny tooth
I dont think I've gotten a single legit ambrosia bottle thus far
Its all been dionysus slipping me a spare
novel swift
habes
novel swift
im still relativity new lmao
somber frigate
im still relativity new lmao
You’re older than me no?
novel swift
nope
somber frigate
what
novel swift
I started talking in here in like april of 2024
midnight apex
This is entertaining
junior rapids
What are good weapons/aspects to go for merciful end with? I understand it’s generally considered good on all or most weapons, but any specific ones that have an edge with it
midnight apex
What are good weapons/aspects to go for merciful end with? I understand it’s gen...
FISTS
junior rapids
And do u have to start ares or can u start Athena?
novel swift
were u in speedcord prior
for like 2 months
midnight apex
And do u have to start ares or can u start Athena?
It’s preferable to start with ares but not necessariy
somber frigate
What are good weapons/aspects to go for merciful end with? I understand it’s gen...
every melee weapon (read: every weapon) can build ares strike -> athena special -> divine dash
Speedrunning is fun
novel swift
I have a lot of respect for speedrunners
somber frigate
dusty vault
Yay
somber frigate
for like 2 months
What the cooked
robust raven
And its an actual meme where you mimic a fraction of their power and do better than you ever did before
dusty vault
(hasn't done a serious run in months)
robust raven
Its like watching no damage runs to learn dodge timing
midnight apex
(hasn't done a serious run in months)
Same
midnight apex
But I still consider myself an amateur speed runner
midnight apex
I’ve been around sinc elike 2021 or somethn
Wow unc
somber frigate
I’m an amateur speedrunner
somber frigate
I can’t rmemeber
dusty vault
I've been here a bit after 1.0 came out I think?
somber frigate
It was well before Nyaanyaa got excommunicated
novel swift
I bought the game right after angels 64
robust raven
I got here yesterday lol
novel swift
welcome welcome!
robust raven
I was spamming bow shots like a lunatic on my theseus attempt
somber frigate
are you dash striking 🙏
robust raven
No sadly
somber frigate
robust raven
My build was more abusing the 160 damage charge shots but my dash strike accuracy is bad rn
midnight apex
I got here yesterday lol
Good luck greenhorn
somber frigate
we’ll get u there
robust raven
Thanks
somber frigate
My build was more abusing the 160 damage charge shots but my dash strike accurac...
Oh kbm I suppose
controller dstrikes are incredibly easy
somber frigate
True
robust raven
Weird to move in 3d again lol
somber frigate
It does take some practice
midnight apex
They’re new give them time
somber frigate
Hades is like technically 3d but it’s more of 2d that you’re watching at an angle
novel swift
I should really play that
robust raven
Is dash strike that good
novel swift
yes
dusty vault
Yeah
somber frigate
Is dash strike that good
miles better
midnight apex
The concept of dimensions overwhelms me
If you like Wanderer Crest I think you’d like the fists
midnight apex
How did I know…
robust raven
I'm tryna tryna the fists actually
somber frigate
Imagine if your bow strikes just took less time so you could move sooner
robust raven
Silksong lol
somber frigate
robust raven
Its either wanderer crest dps checks or architect crest spam
somber frigate
Imagine if your bow strikes just took less time so you could move sooner
With literally no drop in dps (and even better dps if you get chaos dashstrike bonuses)
robust raven
Imagine if your bow strikes just took less time so you could move sooner
It still charge shots?
dusty vault
Is dash strike that good
Tl;dr mobility good, some weapon attack combos (sword) kinda suck, dash strike benefits from attack and dash strike increases
somber frigate
2/3’s the time to charge for 2/3’s the base damage
so they’re just faster so you’re more mobile and safer
midnight apex
It still charge shots?
There’s not much of an equivalent with architect, but maybe Zeus Shield? It’s still chucking smt out to deal damage for you.
robust raven
Huh, thanks
dusty vault
But yeah on bow specifically it allows you to not be a sitting duck lol
robust raven
Perfect carge shot in tartarus is absurd
midnight apex
I just like the responsiveness of fists
somber frigate
Mmm
thorn fog
Are the xinth omegas worth using?
robust raven
I was doing 160 damage vs meg
midnight apex
Wait gimme a sec
somber frigate
dstrike clip time
somber frigate
Are the xinth omegas worth using?
dusty vault
Are the xinth omegas worth using?
Wrong chat
robust raven
Tbh Im mostly tryna figure out how to use titan blood
I hear I need to get 5 weps first
somber frigate
Stickybot vanished in our hour of need
dusty vault
Unlock all weapons
robust raven
Then my bow gets crit or smtn
somber frigate
Tbh Im mostly tryna figure out how to use titan blood
All 6 weaps first
robust raven
Wait 6
novel swift
i miss stickybot every day
somber frigate
pretty much like that
dusty vault
Oh dyno is alive again
somber frigate
Then my bow gets crit or smtn
Yeahhh
somber frigate
is it dstrike furies clip time
novel swift
no
robust raven
Go for it
robust raven
I was surprised at how tanky they were
somber frigate
Should be right? As a new player i just unlocked it
this is for Hades
novel swift
Hades 1
dusty vault
Should be right? As a new player i just unlocked it
This is hades 1
somber frigate
not Hades 2
novel swift
lmao
thorn fog
Nvm this is h1 I'm blind sorry guys
robust raven
Thats crazy fast
somber frigate
it’s quite possible that we have 3 men for a 1 man job lmao
somber frigate
Thats crazy fast
We’re used to it
midnight apex
this happens a lot
Unfortunately yes
midnight apex
Is dash strike that good
The leading cause of dissatisfaction with bow is standing-striking-itus. It's the bane of new players picking up bow for the first time.
Symptoms of standing-striking-itus may include:
- Feelings that bow isn't a fast enough weapon
- Emotional (and physical damage) due to your attacks getting interrupted by enemies
- Feelings that bow has "low damage output"
Is what's happening to me normal?
It's very common for first time bow users and even long term Hades fans to experience standing-striking-itus. Roughly 1 in 3 Hades players will experience it within their lifetimes. It can be a long-running, persistent illness if left untreated.
How do I treat standing-striking-itus?
Start dash-striking when you use bow. Dash striking on bow acts just like a regular strike, but it charges 50% faster, and deals 66% of the base damage.
This allows bow to play far more aggressively, thanks to increased mobility and decreased gaps in damage. Dash strikes also benefit from dash-strike damage boosts, sourced from Artemis's Hunter Dash, and Chaos's Lunge boons, allowing for even higher damage scaling. When you wrap everything up, you end up with a safer, faster, and higher damaging package than what you had before, and this is usually sufficient treatment for 95% of standing-striking-itus sufferers.
-Dr Shackle
dusty vault
Thats crazy fast
It's been happening since the early access Release really lol
novel swift
wait
midnight apex
Yes it is
dusty vault
Lmao that's gold
somber frigate
That may be the first time it’s graced the ssg server
fresh bridge
wait that’s me
welcome back stickybot
robust raven
Tbh I didnt even realize people found the bow slow
dusty vault
People love flurry shot for a reason
robust raven
I found it crazy op relative to the other options from the get go
Flurry shot is a good panic button for projectiles
dusty vault
(is still a good hammer but not dash striking makes it feel like pure gold)
novel swift
Tbh I didnt even realize people found the bow slow
people made mods for it 😭
robust raven
At least it bailed me out vs the hydra
dusty vault
Flurry shot is so silly
midnight apex
Yeah the bow is the least liked beginner weapon
dusty vault
You get triple shot then hug whatever enemy
robust raven
Bruh whats wrong with me lmao
midnight apex
At least in my experience helping newbies here
midnight apex
Bruh whats wrong with me lmao
THERES NOTHING WRONG YOURE ONE OF THE CHOSEN ONES.
robust raven
Projectile panic button
Also arrows pierce
I think its cux they see the bow as a ranged wep
midnight apex
wait how far are you through the game
somber frigate
How have I never seen that
It was in my notes forever and I ended up sending it to Nugget once so that very well might be the first time it’s been here
midnight apex
Have you unlocked all the weapons
fresh bridge
Yeah the bow is the least liked beginner weapon
i think that depends on how far in you are as a beginner tbh, certain bow aspects have a special place in new players hearts
somber frigate
I just saw it as a melee wep with range
Every Hades weapon is a melee weapon
midnight apex
It was in my notes forever and I ended up sending it to Nugget once so that very...
It’s gold idk why you’ve never sent it
robust raven
I got 4 weps unlocked
midnight apex
Every Hades weapon is a melee weapon
Hestia would like a word
robust raven
I wanna use titan blood asap
somber frigate
It’s different when somebody else uses your copypasta compared to you doing it
somber frigate
True Skong is a pretty cool bug
somber frigate
Hades enemies feel so much slower now
You can fix that pretty soon
dusty vault
Hestia would like a word
Tidal dash + clockets:
robust raven
Pact of pain?
midnight apex
Pact of pain?
Oh you’ve been spoiled?
novel swift
speeder :/
midnight apex
Should they censor that?
dusty vault
Mod that just makes every enemy fo2 + speeder
somber frigate
40% faster + bp for an extra 40% and if Bananas isn’t crazy that might be a 2.07x speed boost instead of a 1.8x
midnight apex
Idk I’m somehow the second most junior person here
novel swift
40% faster + bp for an extra 40% and if Bananas isn’t crazy that might be a 2.07...
ye
its tech a 44% increase iirc
for fo2
somber frigate
which like
dusty vault
Should they censor that?
The spoiler rule here is pretty lax nowadays really
fresh bridge
40% faster + bp for an extra 40% and if Bananas isn’t crazy that might be a 2.07...
all move speed is multiplicative yeah
robust raven
Oh you’ve been spoiled?
Yeah I watched the runs
robust raven
Hades is kinda spoiler proof since even with what I see idk what it means
midnight apex
when did frei get here
They’ve been watching for a bit
somber frigate
like
it should be additive how the heck do you end up coding fo2 to multiply with itself
fresh bridge
when did frei get here
you literally reacted to one of my messages 😭
dusty vault
Magic
somber frigate
like I know “all movespeed is multipicative” but this is the same source
dusty vault
2 ichors are also mult idk man
novel swift
you literally reacted to one of my messages 😭
i meant in terms of time in the server 
somber frigate
I wanna see the datamined code for that
because I find it crazy
as someone who does program
that fo2 specifically
midnight apex
Slow down yall you’re gonna confuse the newcomers
somber frigate
mmm
I remember the Hades gamefile being
actually that’s more of a modding server thing
I wanna take a peak
fresh bridge
i meant in terms of time in the server <:zagpls:1012805274261799032>
ah, uhhhhh like july of this year
fresh bridge
time flies when you leave hades running for 9 and 1/2 hours at 500 fps
somber frigate
why am I lowkey unc in this conversation with Hades gamers I look up to
midnight apex
L
novel swift
im a degen
midnight apex
I’m a Niffler
novel swift
this game was my obsession for like 1.5 years
robust raven
Uncles
fresh bridge
im a frei
novel swift
trueeeee
somber frigate
this game was my obsession for like 1.5 years
I’ve been on/off every few months for 4 years so
delicate tangle
the bow attack is like a rifle and the bow special is like a shotgun
midnight apex
I’ve been on/off every few months for 4 years so
Wow that’s a year or two more than me
novel swift
also, i still find it hilarious that false side had over double my hours even though we bought the game around the same time
delicate tangle
a good way to use them is to attack from afar and dash in close so all the special arrows hit the target at very close range
midnight apex
the bow attack is like a rifle and the bow special is like a shotgun
Somewhat? Your don’t really wanna be shotgunning with a special.
robust raven
I was not expecting to like this game as much as I did tbh
midnight apex
Somewhat? Your don’t really wanna be shotgunning with a special.
It does aight damage but it’s very unsafe
delicate tangle
i liked the hammer upgrade that added more special arrows
humble ridge
I was not expecting to like this game as much as I did tbh
it kills you with love
robust raven
I mostly use special arrows for an anti ptojectile button
midnight apex
i liked the hammer upgrade that added more special arrows
You would lovereee aspect of Chiron
delicate tangle
and mixing Jolted with something like Weak, ||Chill|| or Hangover
robust raven
I think the charge shot zeus one is bad tho
midnight apex
The zeus one for the special arrows yeah
Actually, it doesn’t activate with every arrow
somber frigate
the bow attack is like a rifle and the bow special is like a shotgun
The bow special is definitely a thing that exists
midnight apex
I think the charge shot zeus one is bad tho
Which one?
somber frigate
I couldn’t tell you the last time I hit the special button on strike
midnight apex
The bow special is definitely a thing that exists
Perfect summary
robust raven
It gives normal attacks lightning
midnight apex
I couldn’t tell you the last time I hit the special button on strike
Well, hidden aspect
novel swift
low damage, risky
robust raven
Its not super safe but I use it as a panic button vs projectile spam
somber frigate
Far too risky for the damage it outputs
dusty vault
Takes forever to deal dmg and even closer range than your attack
delicate tangle
looks at my top 3 boons and stuff
midnight apex
Its not super safe but I use it as a panic button vs projectile spam
Thing is, you don’t usually want to be in that situation, and you can dash
somber frigate
my top whYever boons are um
robust raven
Hm
dusty vault
Its not super safe but I use it as a panic button vs projectile spam
It is fine for projectile clearing dw
novel swift
Its not super safe but I use it as a panic button vs projectile spam
its not bad as utility, but you can say that about everything in this game
somber frigate
and tidal dash
midnight apex
and tidal dash
I think you forgot tidal dash
delicate tangle
my top whYever boons are um
somber frigate
you have iframes till you dash strike
midnight apex
Is it iframes
Yes
novel swift
and tidal dash
:croven:
robust raven
But you cant dash through attacks no
somber frigate
🫡
midnight apex
https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/1nscrsq/what_are_your_mostused_bo...
Erghhhh, you
midnight apex
But you cant dash through attacks no
Yes you can, just not dash strike
delicate tangle
just needs good timing
somber frigate
Hades reddit my favourite source of stone age level Hades misinformation
robust raven
So whys the athena speed boon such a clutch thing
novel swift
Hades reddit my favourite source of stone age level Hades misinformation
hades reddit truly does exist
sadly
robust raven
Are the iframes selective
midnight apex
So whys the athena speed boon such a clutch thing
Because it reflects, lets you dash strike, and gives you even more I frames
delicate tangle
divine dash is popular cause it deflect sprojectiles for the duration of the dash
delicate tangle
it can destroy the witches
robust raven
I got the projectile deflect
My first run my first boon was actually athena dash
I thought it was scripted lmao
novel swift
it is
robust raven
Oh gotcha
delicate tangle
i forget what my very first boon was, i think i just picked it at random
novel swift
attack, special, and dash iirc
robust raven
I got the dash cuz always dash
delicate tangle
dashing is fun
somber frigate
it can destroy the witches
There’s something else that destroys witches but it’s lowkey like far far out of the scope of this conversation
robust raven
So I can dash through all attacks right
fresh bridge
attack, special, and dash iirc
attack cast dash
robust raven
I still dont grasp the casts tbh
somber frigate
Some armour shred hammers are really strong
fresh bridge
if special was there ff would be so cool
somber frigate
Breaching slash breaching cross
robust raven
The game didnt tutorialize it iirc
Oh daedalus hammers
I rly wanna see artemis
Best antisocial cousin
somber frigate
The game didnt tutorialize it iirc
they’re like a ranged option every weapon can use (and some of thenaspects you’ll unlock later heavily heavily boost them)
and if you’re struggling with a weapon there’s no hammer in just powering through with hunting blades
midnight apex
I still dont grasp the casts tbh
You shoot a bloodstone, it does damage, it sticks to enemies and then you get more damage through the mirror upgrade boiling blood
somber frigate
or anythingnelse
delicate tangle
different casts do different things, it's fun to experiment with
midnight apex
I love casts
delicate tangle
even your basic cast can be fun
novel swift
You shoot a bloodstone, it does damage, it sticks to enemies and then you get mo...
you can also make builds around casts
very strong and fun builds
midnight apex
ASPECT OF ACHILLES MY BELOVED
novel swift
:)
midnight apex
there’s also Beowulf and Hera, but those are lame.
Ok maybe I’m just salty they’re better.
novel swift
i wonder what favorite castpect could possibly be
robust raven
So the bloodstone is the same move regardless of wep
dusty vault
Yeah
novel swift
pretty much
midnight apex
So the bloodstone is the same move regardless of wep
Yes, but some boost the damages
fresh bridge
i wonder what favorite castpect could possibly be
poseidon 🙂
midnight apex
poseidon 🙂
(The third worst castpect)
robust raven
Aspect?
midnight apex
Still, love the thing
dusty vault
Your mirror can make casts give a +50% to attack/special if enemies have a cast on them
delicate tangle
aspect of hera with dionysus made what i call 'the bath bomb'
robust raven
What does giving deities ambrosia do
novel swift
(The third worst castpect)
still better than talos
robust raven
Is it permanent btw
midnight apex
still better than talos
And gilgamesh, which is why its third
novel swift
ive never heard gilga as a castpect
midnight apex
What does giving deities ambrosia do
Helps progress relationships and story.
robust raven
Do they give a keepsake?
midnight apex
ive never heard gilga as a castpect
Me neither, but it’s technically possible.
robust raven
Skelly gave me his tooth
midnight apex
Do they give a keepsake?
They give you keepsakes with nectar
somber frigate
So the bloodstone is the same move regardless of wep
Like how tidal dash is the most goated damage dash regardless of weapon
novel swift
zag bow aotw 😭
median sphinx
But idk if the gods do
they will too
somber frigate
WAIT
novel swift
i know youre behind this alex
somber frigate
IT’s zagbow aotw
robust raven
Oh tidal dash was solid af
delicate tangle
the most important thing is to have fun and play with your own style and at your own pace
fresh bridge
zag bow aotw 😭
wait really?
somber frigate
IT’S TIME FOR ME TO TAKE BACK MY PB
delicate tangle
<3
novel swift
ye
midnight apex
OI ZAG BOW IS GOOD
somber frigate
I beat my 7:46 with zag bow with 7:43 on zagrail is that cursed
novel swift
the most important thing is to have fun and play with your own style and at your...
Hell yeah
delicate tangle
have fun!
median sphinx
I beat my 7:46 with zag bow with 7:43 on zagrail is that cursed
yes because you're playing zag rail
robust raven
Tho honestly its the spear I dont like
midnight apex
Apparently most new players dont like it
Most new players don’t like the bow, period.
somber frigate
too complicated for new hades gamersF
midnight apex
Tho honestly its the spear I dont like
Aww.
Why.
The lack of damage?
robust raven
The moveset for me
somber frigate
They all really gravitate to chiron
robust raven
It roots you in place
midnight apex
They all really gravitate to chiron
Yup
midnight apex
It roots you in place
Just dash strike
median sphinx
I bought aspect of hera and was like woo best aspect boom
robust raven
I like the bow because I like having ranged melee
I'd have killed for that in silksong
midnight apex
Wait till this cobalt gets the rail
robust raven
I cant wait
dusty vault
Rail vs the other weapons is still so funny
median sphinx
hollow knight is ez just dash on top of your boss' head and down air
novel swift
Rail vs the other weapons is still so funny
even in OwO it was so much better
robust raven
In silksong they took that away in a silly way
dusty vault
I'm sending all wanderer players to bilewater
robust raven
I use wanderer
dusty vault
Too bad
robust raven
And bilewater is comical
Thats why it took 6 years im pretty sure
Im gonna use spear ig
Any tips for spear and shield
The indiv weps I mean
dusty vault
Pray for the good hammers
robust raven
They bad?
dusty vault
Spear has a bad case of hammer needy
midnight apex
Dash strike, if you see flurry jab grab it, don’t use the spin
For the spear
dusty vault
The difference when it pulls the best ones is insane
(bow is kinda like that but it has a million good hammers so)
For shield click charged shot of you see it
robust raven
The perfect shot one is absurd
dusty vault
And is pretty much gg
robust raven
160 damage in tartarus
somber frigate
bow has 6/12 stellar hammers
robust raven
Flurry jab?
novel swift
i dont know if I would call all of them stellar
median sphinx
flurry shot hera mwah
novel swift
but good
robust raven
So for spear
dusty vault
Flurry jab?
Hold for attack, stops spin from happening
robust raven
Spin bad
novel swift
yes
robust raven
Cuz slow and bad range
somber frigate
Twin shot / triple shot > flurry shot >= point blank = perfect >= explosive shot and the. The rest you can disregard
robust raven
If yall disliked the arrow flurry the spin is just a worse version lmao
dusty vault
The other combo you can get with default spear is exploding launcher + charged skewer
robust raven
Twin shot / triple shot > flurry shot >= point blank = perfect >= explosive shot...
Twin shot?
midnight apex
You shoot two arrows with reduced range
somber frigate
in a straight line with reduced range
robust raven
Oh thats cracked
median sphinx
bow is a melee weapon
dusty vault
Triple shot is similar but you shoot them in fan pattern
But if you hug the enemy all 3 hit
somber frigate
twin is nice because you at least still have midrange
robust raven
Is the shield charge iframed btw
somber frigate
yes
novel swift
yes
dusty vault
Yup
median sphinx
she
dusty vault
While holding you block anything in front
novel swift
they?
dusty vault
Then bullrush is just an extra dash
dusty vault
Yup
median sphinx
meanwhile I run zeus shield by mindlessly bashing
dusty vault
Do I throw the god pool copypasta now actually
median sphinx
uh yes
robust raven
Im only gonna use the spear cuz 20% more darkness buff
Since I need the titan blood from meg
dusty vault
Do I throw the god pool copypasta now actually
Cuz speaking of untold mechanics
God pool
When you take a boon from a new god they are added to a pool.
-this pool can contain 4 gods-
Chaos and Hermes boons don't count for this
Once 4 gods are taken in this pool, the rest will disappear from the run. (As a note, selling all boons from a god will not remove the god from your pool.
What this means for runs is that you have better chances at seeing the gods you do care about and their duos. Before the good pool is closed you have a 1 in 7* ||or 8 once demeter is unlocked|| to be the god you want, with the pool closed, you increase your chance to 1 in 4.
How to break god pool cap
-Using a god keepsake of a god not in pool will force the god regardless and add them to the pool.
-On occasions, you can enter a midshop with 3 gods, buy your 4th god and have a 5th god in the exit door
-enter the last area with 3 or less gods and every god could be offered
Note: Breaking the god cap is usually not that useful as it just means less chances to get who you want again but if you really need that duo/divine dash then it is an option.
somber frigate
Does anyone have the diagram for the shield block angles
novel swift
somewhere
robust raven
Whys hermes an exception
median sphinx
he's too fast
dusty vault
Built different
dusty vault
(he works less like a main god and more of a talking hammer)
He only offers support boons/no duos/can't be angered etc
And most importantly
novel swift
rd
dusty vault
You can only see him twice most runs
robust raven
Hm gotcha
If its ayt to ask
What doors should I prioritize early on
I mostly go for keys and gems rn
Centaur hearts too
dusty vault
I'd rush keys overall for weapons and thus aspects
somber frigate
Is that the actual lore reason
Hermes is like if a regular god, chaos and a hammer had a love child
Like chaos, he has no core boons / no call / no pommables and he has worsened rarity odds
Like regular olympians you can sell his boons and he has legendaries, and counts for family favourites
and like hammers, you can only pick up 2 (|| and a third from a 50:50 in styx shop|| ) boons from him in a run
robust raven
So its like a freebie?
novel swift
hammers and hermes are big priorities
dusty vault
I'd rush keys overall for weapons and thus aspects
Is your most immediate power boost
somber frigate
So its like a freebie?
Is like a hammer and a god together
dusty vault
Late mirror skills are good but darkness takes a while to grind
dusty vault
Beating bosses you already claimed the bounty from will give big chunks of darkness
So don't go insane farming darkness from doors
median sphinx
how did you "jump" meg
somber frigate
50/100/150/250 for the record
somber frigate
how did you "jump" meg
I’ve jumped meg before
dusty vault
Wheres than
Have you seen the 3rd area yet
median sphinx
I’ve jumped meg before
how
dusty vault
Seen 3rd area didnt get past the boyfriend duo
Oh did you not meet Than then
robust raven
Was he supposed to be there
median sphinx
makes sense
novel swift
good build = 2 second meg fight
i mean
dusty vault
Idk the exact pre reqs but yeah
somber frigate
You can only meet than for the first time after the 3rd room of elysium
dusty vault
His first appearance is in elysium always
median sphinx
I was thinking bugging through the arena
robust raven
Elysium is before theseus right
dusty vault
Prob too early in the save file or something
somber frigate
You can only meet than for the first time after the 3rd room of elysium
I should’ve maybe put this all in one message but whatever
robust raven
Since he guards hades technically
dusty vault
Elysium is before theseus right
Yeah
robust raven
And yeah that was my 2nd run
somber frigate
Prob too early in the save file or something
It’s not scripted
robust raven
So he prolly didnt get there
dusty vault
Ik
robust raven
Also havent found dusa
somber frigate
it’s just complete rng once you’ve gotten to the third room of elysium onwards so it’s possible to jsut not see him yet
dusty vault
it’s just complete rng once you’ve gotten to the third room of elysium onwards s...
||I swear you needed to meet all furies too? Or is that just for extreme measures||
median sphinx
Is skelly tooth just awesome
is death defiance awesome? yes of course it's awesome
dusty vault
Tooth is always solid yeah
median sphinx
there is
robust raven
I was thinking cerberus early game then swap to tooth in region 2
dusty vault
If you care about keepsake order is basically
God 1 (main build) > god 2 (support) > defensive/utility > defensive
As far as optimal goes
robust raven
I still dont know how the hell I got through elysium
dusty vault
Bow gud
median sphinx
wait how are you unlocking bow before the 2nd run
robust raven
My first run room got a key
Spent it for 2nd
2nd run got me to theseus somehow
Had more trouble in fire hell than elysium
Oh for reference I also had a comical number of centaur hearts
Had like 300 hp when I died to theseus
0 mirror upgrades for health yet lol
dusty vault
Hm, I gotta look at god boons
Tl;dr
Weapons with higher base dmg/lower attack speed prefer gods like aphrodite (highest % modifier) or artemis (crits)
Weapons with lower base dmg/high attack speed want gods like zeus who add an extra effect to each attack
robust raven
Hm, so spear wants zeus and such
somber frigate
Is skelly tooth just awesome
Itms one of them that exists
Meta is choosingg your build via keepsakes
so the only real place for him is elysium and styx but then acorn prevails most of the time
robust raven
God kepsakes rig the boons to favor your playstyle?
dusty vault
Refer to god pool on why god keepsakes are so useful
robust raven
Gotcha
dusty vault
Tl;dr makes them easier to find again
robust raven
I havent offered a single ambrosia to a god
dusty vault
Oh def throw nectar to them
robust raven
What do you usually run
dusty vault
If you care about keepsake order is basically
God 1 (main build) > god 2 (sup...
.
Defensive is usually evergreen acorn (asphodel/2nd area npc room) and utility is stuff like charon's keepsake
somber frigate
I havent offered a single ambrosia to a god
Yikes
dusty vault
Which makes his charon well items last longer
robust raven
2nd run tbf
somber frigate
if you get 2 gods you want in really early you canforce your god pool closed early and then you double the odds of finding all your gods in your godpool as soon as it closes
That’s why god keepsakes are so valuable
it just really helps with build consistency to do so early
dusty vault
Btw only 1 keepsake slot?
If we had more than 1 then hermes's and Than's would be fun
sweet brook
Lightning Rod is S? I’d put it in A.
that's fair lmao i didn't put too much thought into it
sweet brook
sea storm in b :(
tdash doesn't open it so you have to go pretty out of your way to get it, but it doesn't really carry the run
dusty vault
I'm the rod master and say rod to S anyways
novel swift
I love rod
dusty vault
(but nah fr def A lol)
novel swift
Such a fun boon
dusty vault
Is good but not smair good
dusty vault
Understandable
median sphinx
rod works great with greater recall that's why it's S
robust raven
Damn elysium's got hands
dusty vault
classic
elysium is a lot of build check due to increase on hp compared to the other 2 regions
fleet perch
who thought it was a good idea to make skelly give another free revive?
robust raven
Also asophdel witches are annoying
sterile solar
who thought it was a good idea to make skelly give another free revive?
What's wrong with it
fleet perch
What's wrong with it
just really op
sterile solar
Is ok at best, good for beginners
somber frigate
just really op
It’s not op really
junior rapids
For exactly the final boss fight with Achilles spear (and flurry jab) is greater reflex or greater haste better
somber frigate
For exactly the final boss fight with Achilles spear (and flurry jab) is greater...
Reflex is better unless you already have rush delivery
Reflex is a direct dps boost for achilles as well as added mobility and defense
without rush delivery, greater haste offers nothing
robust raven
Im rly struggling with theseus im ngl
He's dummy thick
I hit them with like 70hp and no death defiance
somber frigate
Are you dealing with Asterius first on the other side of the arena / behind pillars so you can’t get sniped
junior rapids
I struggled with him a lot, then I got +1 death defiance in mirror and that made difference. Though now I also don’t trigger death defiance as much during his fight either lol so idk
humble ridge
Damn elysium's got hands
legit
those small wheelies are annoying asf I can't hit them cuz they explode so fast
dash damage is my way
dusty vault
those small wheelies are annoying asf I can't hit them cuz they explode so fast
you can lead them into walls and they will blow up themselves
humble ridge
Im rly struggling with theseus im ngl
you have to be insanely fast to fight them both kill minotaur first he's the tank
max damage thesius can do is with his call
you just gotta know how to evade+attack
robust raven
you have to be insanely fast to fight them both kill minotaur first he's the tan...
Tbh I'm mostly struggling to reach them intact
Elysium rly drains your resources
outer flint
Yeah
Best way to play through Elysium at the start is to slow down your gameplay and be more intentional
deft meteor
for keys you collect best to upgrade the mirror first or get wepons first?
viscid notch
for keys you collect best to upgrade the mirror first or get wepons first?
Getting all of the base weapons will unlock aspects which are alternate versions of the weapons that have certain strengths. I say it's somewhat worth prioritizing since it'll make you stronger and also because the later levels of the mirror take up a lot of keys
outer flint
the last mirror upgrades will affect you a lot less than the weapons will
personally, i would go for unlocking all the weapons first
good things are unlocked from both routes, but I think there's more fun to be had in the weapons
deft meteor
for aspects upgrade concentrate on one weapon? how do you get more titan blood? seems like you get Titan blood once per weapons. Same with diamonds,
spark crag
the first time you defeat stage bosses at the next heat, you get the boss prize (blood/diamond/ambrosia/blood)
somber frigate
for aspects upgrade concentrate on one weapon? how do you get more titan blood?...
You need to escape before you can start refreshing bounties
otherwise it’s just trading up resources
onyx hearth
how do i unequiped a keepsake?
junior rapids
how do i unequiped a keepsake?
In the training room, and if you’ve progressed with house contractor when moving between different regions of hades as well(ie from Tartarus to asphodel)
onyx hearth
im at the training room but dont see an option
junior rapids
Oh unequip as in wear no keepsakes at all, mb
humble ridge
how do i unequiped a keepsake?
when you defeat a boss and move on to next stage
but like you'll have to pay for it to contractor
junior rapids
If ur trying to wear 0 keepsakes, Idk for sure then
I would speculate it’s just a matter of a clicking on the one ur wearing but idk
somber frigate
im at the training room but dont see an option
You can’t deselect keepsakes, only swap them for others
humble ridge
I'm gonna throw hands with thesius
onyx hearth
damn wish i knew that, i got the 20% reduced damage to front but 10% damaged if i get hit from the back 😭
somber frigate
Just get another keepsake you can swap to
junior rapids
Don’t u have another keepsake to chose?
humble ridge
js pick Artemis's keepsake
junior rapids
I mean even if u don’t want to influence any gods, at worst can do like cerbeus or Hypnos or any of the other generic good ones
onyx hearth
if i find a nectar chamber ill def do it unless its a key chamber, cuz apparently i need 8 keys now to unlock the new weapon D:
junior rapids
From a layman’s perspective keys are more common than nectar (I don’t have any actual stats and am speculating)
But also u have infinite time so do whatever u want
midnight apex
Your priority in the early game before you unlock the weapons should be
Keys
Nectar
Darkness
Gemstone
Whatever you need to do to get more of the above
somber frigate
From a layman’s perspective keys are more common than nectar (I don’t have any a...
They just are
There are twice as many keys in the bag as there are nectars
for room generation
humble ridge
finally unlocked ||Demeter||
lament blaze
finally unlocked ||Demeter||
When I found out who the last olmpiyan was it blew my mind. Nice to have them all
midnight apex
finally unlocked ||Demeter||
Censor that
outer flint
When I found out who the last olmpiyan was it blew my mind. Nice to have them al...
wow
apollo means nothing to you?
midnight apex
That’s Hades 2 no?
somber frigate
H2 spoiler get out
junior rapids
Hades 2 spoilers: Bro mentions ||apollo|| but forgets ||Hephaestus and Hera||
midnight apex
again, spoilers, please delete it
Even if it’s censored, you didn’t specify what spoilers they were
Also, in my experience, spoiler tags aren’t especially effective
junior rapids
Although technically I wasn’t referring to hades 2, I just meant ||the absence in Hades 1||
midnight apex
If that’s Hades 2 spoilers I’m not looking at it
Please specify what is in the censored message
junior rapids
I was attempting a Hades 1 spoiler, I only marked it because u said its hades 2. I was commenting on how something is not in the game hades 1. I was not making any comments on what is or isn’t in hades 2
novel swift
It is hades 2 spoilers
humble ridge
Censor that
aigh bru
midnight apex
Well anyway, for future reference please write (HADES 1/HADES 2 SPOILER ||insert message here||
Is that alright?
junior rapids
It was a hades 1 spoiler at intent, if u view it at a stretch it’s a hades 2 spoiler i guess. After so many people say it’s a hades 2 spoiler now it will be a hades 2 spoiler if u look at it.
I will do what u say, but when i wrote original post I thought i was spoiling hades 1
junior rapids
I am also gonna say this is the kinda thing I could write “hades 1 spoiler” in front of and then get flamed for giving a hades 2 spoiler (the act of flaming would in turn reveal it’s a hades 2 spoiler) while maintaining the intent to only write a hades 1 spoiler
But I will follow the intent of ur message
midnight apex
I am also gonna say this is the kinda thing I could write “hades 1 spoiler” in f...
Oh, I understand.
brisk spear
Do I need to look at tutorials and etc for hades 1 or just play however I want
If I’m new
somber frigate
Do I need to look at tutorials and etc for hades 1 or just play however I want
You can absolutely do whatever you want
and honestly I wouldn’t put much stock in anything a gaming journal or random Hades youtuber says
leaden whale
I went in pretty blind, part of the journey is learning with each run attempt
brisk spear
and honestly I wouldn’t put much stock in anything a gaming journal or random Ha...
thank u for the info
somber frigate
thank u for the info
Haelian is the only one that’s like big and actually good at the game
brisk spear
Haelian is the only one that’s like big and actually good at the game
ill check him out, thank you
onyx hearth
does damage from mobs increase for each biome? im pretty unkillable with this passive at tatarus lol https://imgur.com/a/EYCVOHp
somber frigate
ill check him out, thank you
Again, it is like completely unnecessary though
and tbh if you do want Hades advice
here is the #1 place
thorn notch
Does curse of longing interact in any way with dire misfortune?
sweet brook
probably a bit
like if you smack an enemy a couple of times, the dire misfortunate damage would be added and the subsequent drop damage would have increased damage
but also if you keep reapplying doom for a bigger dire misfortune drop, then curse of longing is useless lol
junior rapids
Any tips for final boss fight? I keep ||trying to hit him, but if I do I take massive damage being near him. If I play it slow I take massive damage from the skulls that explode into waves. The only thing I can think of is being good enough not to use death defiance until final fight||
h1 boss fight spoiler
median sphinx
||take out the skulls, they are generated from dad's cast and shouldn't be that hard to kill||
median sphinx
does damage from mobs increase for each biome? im pretty unkillable with this pa...
why yes, enemies in your next biome hits for 10ish per attack
floral lagoon
Any fun build for fist? i like bow and fist but want to try fist more because i think its cool
Im still new, still cant beat taurus and theseus god
somber frigate
does damage from mobs increase for each biome? im pretty unkillable with this pa...
Each mob has their own individual damage values but on average yeah the damage goes up
frail arch
after i get my first reward for giving someone a nectar should i keep giving them? will there be any extra rewards or just dialogue
lament blaze
after i get my first reward for giving someone a nectar should i keep giving the...
without spoiling anything, yes keep giving them nectar, as far i know it unlocks something
late obsidian
uh i have about 2 hours playtime and ive already gotten to hades it seems like quite a short game
am i missing somthing?
dusty vault
You are better than the average player first of all
Also second ||game and story doesn't end just because you win 
|| @late obsidian
humble ridge
uh i have about 2 hours playtime and ive already gotten to hades it seems like q...
gahdamn
late obsidian
You are better than the average player first of all
How long does it take the average player? I kinda just spammed special on the starter greatsword
dusty vault
Dunno in terms of hours but number of runs is like 35~50 for first win
late obsidian
I have 8…
dusty vault
Yeah reaching ykw On run 8 is big lol
late obsidian
||Tiny vermin|| was just funny imo
dusty vault
We love tony
late obsidian
I do have a lot of experience with ‘difficult’ games tho
dusty vault
Figured
late obsidian
Figured
I think I also just got lucky on boons
I was doing 180dmg per special hit
And I hit twice
- ||Aphrodiete and Dionysus debuff||
junior rapids
What are some of the easiest pacts to do?
somber frigate
What are some of the easiest pacts to do?
||extreme measures 1-2, and tight deadline (just puts an admittedly very long time limit on you per biome, all left over time carries over and if you somehow manage to hit 0 seconds, you don’t die, you start taking 5 damage per second)||
fresh bridge
#h2-for-new-players (assuming your also new there
)
quasi rover
bronze sun
hey chat just got the game came to say hello
somber frigate
hey chat just got the game came to say hello
🔥
onyx hearth
does this mean i receivee 2 boons? https://imgur.com/a/ty4bERf or have to pick one
(the chamber to the right)
somber frigate
does this mean i receivee 2 boons? https://imgur.com/a/ty4bERf or have to pick o...
Yes
Neither of those boons can be duos
humble ridge
hey chat just got the game came to say hello
welcome 
onyx hearth
what is this hammer thing
also does foe attack count for bosses too? https://imgur.com/a/614RgyT
and by attack i assume thats everything from poison, range, melee and aoe explosives/lasers ya?
midnight apex
https://imgur.com/a/UdSyJ4P
That’s what we call an anvil
And it replaces one of your hammers with two free hammers
Not worth it unless your hammers are god effing awful
midnight apex
also does foe attack count for bosses too? https://imgur.com/a/614RgyT
Yes it counts for all enemies
midnight apex
and by attack i assume thats everything from poison, range, melee and aoe explos...
Everything there but poison I believe
humble ridge
spoiler for hades 1
||I did NOT expect that 2nd health bar from hades dawg snatched all my 2 defiances😭||
onyx hearth
once i have this i cant get the normal attack deflect yeea? https://imgur.com/a/f2wlBBA
i got rnged and wasnt given the normal attack deflect as option :(
humble ridge
once i have this i cant get the normal attack deflect yeea? https://imgur.com/a/...
that's my top 3 boon
I use it on Sword
onyx hearth
that's my top 3 boon
is special that good with the sword? i went normal attack and had more fun
maybe ill try focusing on special boons this run
humble ridge
is special that good with the sword? i went normal attack and had more fun
in my opinion on attack, the deflact will make more sense when you've hammered it to the 2 hit attack sequence
sword is a three hit attack
midnight apex
is special that good with the sword? i went normal attack and had more fun
For the sword, the best combo is dash strike x2, then special
humble ridge
with special you can deflect the projectile 360
midnight apex
once i have this i cant get the normal attack deflect yeea? https://imgur.com/a/...
You still can
onyx hearth
with special you can deflect the projectile 360
yea but with attack deflect i can deflect everything without worrying about getting hit since there is a short delay/cd for ur next special plus waiting for animation to end since thats the one that triggers the deflect
humble ridge
yea but with attack deflect i can deflect everything without worrying about g...
that's where the boon from Hermes comes in
midnight apex
that's where the boon from Hermes comes in
That’s not the best boon tbh
humble ridge
yeah but it speeds up the special
I'm talking Abt special focused combat
onyx hearth
For the sword, the best combo is dash strike x2, then special
i had this build and it got me the farthest i never used special i just dash and attack along with attacks https://imgur.com/a/ilFt45y
midnight apex
Btw as a sword tip, you can dash halfway through your special windup to make it a ton safer
midnight apex
i had this build and it got me the farthest i never used special i just dash a...
That’s fair
onyx hearth
Btw as a sword tip, you can dash halfway through your special windup to make it ...
how do u cancel it? via dashing or attack?
midnight apex
Dashing
humble ridge
Btw as a sword tip, you can dash halfway through your special windup to make it ...
nice one
midnight apex
You should also dash as soon as possible after you special
The name of the game is dash
Well it’s Hades
But you get the point
onyx hearth
yeah but it speeds up the special
I'm talking Abt special focused combat
how much damage were u doing with the special build (up to the hades fight)
humble ridge
I don't remember the exact dps
for reference I was taking out the armoured Archers of Elysium with that special in under 4 or 5 hits
somber frigate
once i have this i cant get the normal attack deflect yeea? https://imgur.com/a/...
You an absolutely get athenas strike after getting athena special
onyx hearth
which god gives the attack on heal boon for the sword?
fresh bridge
which god gives the attack on heal boon for the sword?
there isnt a god that gives healing based effects for attacks, i believe u are referring to cursed slash which is a hammer for the sword weapon
onyx hearth
ahh guess its rare then out of like 10+ hammers i only seen it once
midnight apex
It has an equal chance to get out of any hammer
onyx hearth
should i use it on this? or not worth it https://imgur.com/a/wmlEJLl
midnight apex
should i use it on this? or not worth it https://imgur.com/a/wmlEJLl
Is your mirror maxed?
onyx hearth
no just unlocked the 2nd tier
midnight apex
Then absolutely effing not lol
onyx hearth
onyx hearth
Then absolutely effing not lol
why not? better of saving it for an npc to dirnk it with?
midnight apex
Tbh it’s up to you, but darkness is a lot easier to get a lot of then ambrosia
How much ambrosia do you have?
onyx hearth
1
somber frigate
ahh guess its rare then out of like 10+ hammers i only seen it once
It’s like roughly 1/4 sword hammers will have them
Sorry exactly 1/4 first hammers will and then second hammers odds depends on which first hammer you ended up taking
muted mist
I FINALLY BEAT THAT MINOTAUR AND THESEUS
and i somehow did it with only 1 use of death defiance, meanwhile in previous runs i used all of them easily
im playing through the ||hades fight||.. this is easy
way too easy
im scared
OH GOD I KNEW IT
oh dang ||the second phase wasnt that bad||
FIRST TRY
midnight apex
NOICE
onyx hearth
rip thanks for the spoilers 😭
midnight apex
im playing through the ||hades fight||.. this is easy
PLZ CENSOR
onyx hearth
on the upside i wont be caught off guard but rippp lol
onyx hearth
i mean bruh ur at the channel for new players 💀
midnight apex
Yeahhhh just be more careful next time. We can’t really do anything now
muted mist
im a new player too so i forgot 😭 sorry
junior rapids
What calls are generally considered good? Are there any that matter for specific weapons or just any call is fine for almost/all weapons?
dusty vault
What calls are generally considered good? Are there any that matter for specific...
Zeus/dio>athena>>pos generally
Zeus has the upside that your weapon will either:
Use his attack/attack fast enough to charge calls on their own.
Or
Use aphrodite due to high % and thus gain access to smoldering air which lets you spam calls with weapons that are generally bad at it
Dio call is somewhat similar where the hangover dmg ends up charging the call
Also don't use greater calls
somber frigate
I think a common dio call ends up being more damage over it’s duration than an equivalent zeus btw
You just miss out on the damage being immediate
somber frigate
I think a common dio call ends up being more damage over it’s duration than an e...
it becomes a significant amount with any levels of pomming
dusty vault
Athena is just free oonga boonga, Pos is somewhat similar but it stops you from using your weapon, yet the dmg is still decent (you can double tap with lesser calls)
Ares is prob the worst, it makes you impervious but removes your usual moveset and the dmg doesn't make up for that
Also all calls give iframes on activation
junior rapids
Aphrodite I thought was gonna be kinda cool for extended periods of bosses doing nothing, realized that didn’t work but was still a neat way to interrupt boss attacks and I beat final boss that way one time (at least partial contribution) by just interrupting his attacks with calls (and my call charge rate was buffed with other stuff)
Zeus I generally liked, will try Dio sometime
Actually one problem with Zeus was I had to get in melee range or it was wasted, but still just felt generically strong
But that’s just how game is ig
somber frigate
Actually one problem with Zeus was I had to get in melee range or it was wasted,...
It is very generically strong
and every weapon in game is secretly a melee weapon so
somber frigate
does encounter count for boss room/chambers
boss rooms and minibosses count as chambers and encounters
junior rapids
Well not every call is melee, and other ways to do ranged as needed in certain situations (special, cast). Final boss fight was main situation where situationally I did not want to stay in melee range long enough for the Zeus call to finish its job. But mainly I was just yapping earlier lol.
robust raven
Wait dio call is good?
somber frigate
Wait dio call is good?
It is an extremely good damage call
the worst a dio minicall can do is 1080 single target damage
robust raven
Thats hilarious
robust raven
I cant believe I passed on it for a poseidon
All I saw was iframes lol
My fav before this was artemis for a good panic button
somber frigate
and it’s got a wide enough aoe range that it hits like everything and the pom scaling on dio call is stupid
robust raven
Hows it scale?
somber frigate
like a straight line lmao
+8 for first pom +4 for every subsequent one
per tick
per stack
the base stack is like 16 iirc so
you can easily get it up to something stupid high
as I said before, the total damage of all the ticks on common with no poms is 1080
with wicked linear pom scaling
you can easily push it way higher
and since the hangover effect lingers, it’s the only call that will actually recharge itself
robust raven
I gotta do a dio shield run now
somber frigate
you just can’t run any other hangover effects
If you want to use dio call
otherwise you’re throwing all your damage out the window
robust raven
What would you recommend I go for instead? Zeus?
somber frigate
zeus special is really solid for a special if you’re using zeus shield
which I’m assuming is what you were planning on using?
robust raven
Yeah, I have a couple of titan bloods
I maxed the zag gauntlets first tho
Their moveset just agrees with my brain chemistry
The zeus shield throw procs specials per tic?
somber frigate
per every 0.3s
ticks don’t really
happen to the same extent in Hades
the cooldowns aren’t all consistent
like
lightning strike has an itc of 0.15s, lightning bolts 0.2s, support fire 0.2s, iirc the rail strike is 0.15333s (or 6.5strikes per second iirc, from personal testing)
but yeah every zeus shield special will rain down a lightning bolt I think I misunderstood your question initially
since the internal cooldown for lightning bolts is 0.2s but the special procs every 0.3s, every tick takes long enough for it to proc another lightning bolt
somber frigate
You get more value per button press
Sure
somber frigate
I'll spend some titan blood on it
I mean
You get pretty much 95% of the functionality with level 1 if you’re just using it for flat damage builds
Level 4 and 5 lets you start being able to build around +% specials like aphrodite
robust raven
Ahh
Thank you
I dont have enough titan blood for much else lmao
I cant wait to get off work
vital socket
this is the first roguelike game i played that actually doesnt make me mad for dying
vital socket
tboi is just rng
midnight apex
Who
vital socket
this game actually teaches you
midnight apex
Ah