#h1-for-new-players
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In general or?
titan blood
one of the worst
I didn’t know
no even if u read the description
that hurt me
its ass

the best zag spear build is to buff your atk and ignore the special
I been focusing on special this entire time 💀
gg
anyway
Bro I swear to god if I didn’t join discord I’m probably never going to beat hades with the way I played
reall
for base weapons, i feel like fists is pretty easy
hiw many attempts u at rn
73
zeus keepsake
your looking for zeus atk and later trying to get the zeus boon static discharge
I got none of those things you mention
if you dont get atk out of first boon then restart the run by killing yourself
huh
Lmaoooo
its easist like this
Aight killing myself rn(in game)
i think ebery run is worth going for especially when u are early on in the game
any experience is fuel for your growth
well since they want to beat the game
Can I die any faster
Ah
figure out how the game works firdt
i dont think he has like that much basic knowledge
I got in

i mean u can do whatever you want
im just putting myself in your shoes
i.e. I want to beat the game, so im going to reset until my first boon is slightly optimal
buffs atk
Attacks emits lighting chain
yes
Got a few options
Coins Hp and chaos gate
o
chaos could be fun
Going chaos
id go for that, cuz its so early
1.Cant use cast 4 rooms but +38% attack
2.-46Hp next 4 rooms but dash strike 46% more dmg
3.cant see anything next 5 chambers but 12% rare or higher boobs
id pick 1
if it was anything but fists the first 2 would be good
So first?
i think 3rd
Okay
the fists basic atk would go from 15 dmg to a whopping... 20
is % first or last
first
bruh
it doesnt affect the boon
well its not
Got hammer
W
Which skill should I pick
Dash strike 900% damage armor
Special kill =2% heal
Dash strike 60% damage;added to attack sequence
lets say a weapon did 50 base dmg. that 38% bonus + our boons % bonus would be big
1
1 or 3
mayb 1
Hmm…
my biggest issue is always armor
To kill boss faster probably 3?
if u struggle with armor go with 1
I don’t so neat
i think 1 honestly
u know armour makes enemies immune to stun right
I can dodge
No worries
Got upgrade neat…it’s not like I have a choice XD
this makes static discharge have higher dps btw
Got Zeus again
static discharge
static discharge
pick no doubt
poseidon others are all kinda….
Shop or Hp
200 coin on me
hp
Ok
byw how much hp should i aim for every run
shop this early probably not necesary
idfk whatever you feel like?
ok
theres no lkike set amount you should aim for
Shop or upgrade level
sometimes you get more hp somtiume u dont
static discharge
? ???
I have every skill unlocked/weapon
!*
sisyphus
then why key
Choose gold?
gold or hp ig
Dark?
Fair
pick whatever helps u in fight
if u need heals then get heals, if not get gold
3 options
Hermes Aphrodite darkness I can afford al 3
hermes
346 gold
yes
Flurry cast epic
Quick recovery rare
Hyper sprint rare
cuz some weapons are different
hyper sprint
hyper
Should I buy the heart or save
save if not low hp
nah
Ok
u dont need aphro
Uhm guys I somehow got valued customer on level 2. I dunno how it happend but it says so
your just a big fish
a big time spender
Boss done and dusted
Okay
he dont got that
Wait
he said he only has zeus
Ain’t got it 😭
Wat is the best companion
meg
Fr?

I DIDNT KNOWEW
all in.
only viable one, iirc
this is called dedication
I have 4 left on me
Well i got alrdy like 1,3k this run cuz of side hustle
4 is enough
its all up to you
I have bone hourglasses tho…?
you can get them all
Imma stick to HP?
Nvm it should be around 1,1k rn
your run is unsaveable btw
we cant fix this'
focus your next runs on getting keepsakes from peopel
he can encounter poseidon
Nah let’s try this first before giving up 🗣️
he just need luck
poseidon does not find easily
a lil teeny tiny bit of luck
Possiden and Hermes
I like dash posidon
wtf


Tdash
get poseidon then gift nctar

pls for the love of everything
OH yes
How many run u guy have
even if you find poseidon its rare to get tdash

200 iirc
thats rught
So…
gt tdash
Wat u guy best streak
I didn’t get T dash
Run dead?
not necessarily
wdym
Wdym run dead
I got possiden again
run not dead, just need more skill

Possiden/zeus door
he didnt get the boon he wanted, so the run is 'dead' kinda
Zayum it says -20% like normal but the stuff is way cheaper. Im playing with +40% from heat but now i got a double pom for merely 252 instead of 300 or rather 420 (with +40%)
And I got a zues
welp
Which one
Thunder flor
Electric shot
Billowing strength
Billowing? Since I have possiden calls
What we at hades 2?
not mermaid
yeah ig
Tree
whatever creature
bro what are you on
i cant remember names
eurydice?
second stage !
bro idk…
Got 2 options Ares or the snow lady
orpheus' side piece?
Imma gift em a nectar to?
yea
Noice got special curse of pain
just save 1 nectar incase you find a '!' room
Dammit only room is key
Demeter
hes on fists

so ares special be better, right?
Idk i only have 49 run
HP
Upgrade boons level
Chaos
Kinda like ares special
chaos if u want funnies, safe option is pom
Funnies here we come
Spear player
Ares special is certainly an option if you aren’t running ares strike on fists
Wait wat wp u using
can't you like weave in specials during your dash atk?'
1.take 44% more damage after 3 fights 63% more damages attacking from the back
2.-32Hp 3 room+1 cast
3.4 fight 1 attack -4 Hp dash strike +82% dmg
1?
Yeah I’d take 1
2 rooms HP and Shop (327Coins)
If you’re on fists and you dash strike, you can hit special immediately to dash special off the same dash
Chaos
why are you giving advice a room late lmfao
Pom,ares,HP(42)
how much hp u at?
42
Out of
out of 50?
Kinda like fists with zeus
Out of 125
what other gods do you have aside from Ares
he has zeus atk and tdash
Zeus possiden hades
Wdym hades
Hermes to
oh dang gotta love the full flat damage soup fists
Oh ares
Hermes is counted outside the regular gods
i feel like poming static discharge owuld be good
Got NONE of those
Lighting strike
great
So lighting stroke?
Oh boss time
lernie
Keep going
So I keep the Cerberus necklace?
Yep
Hammer
1.using attack and special keeps me sturdy
2.killing with special gives 2% heals
3.Attack has more range and 10% damage boost
Hard choice
I not often use fists but i think 3
Long knuckle
How many gold u have
179
Gold
Hermes or shop
hammer
Hermes?
You absolutely can
Kill-die-learn-repeat
Quick reload
Greatest reflex (rare)
Flurry cast
Zeus or ares?
zeus
Zeus
Just ask questions whenever you want to learn more game sense, a straight up hold-your-hand thru a full run is easy but doesn’t really teach you as much I don’t think cuz it’s just the person telling u what to do using some small fraction of their game sense for that specific interaction
Sir I been dying to the same old man 73 times
I want to beat his head back to hell JUST ONCE
fine.
U die to hades 73 times?
23 total
dadm
50 other times was someone else
thats like a 3rd of ur runs
That normal it take me 26 run to win hades
Sea storm is like… fine
Or storm lighting
Take sea storm ig
Storm lightning is really more for getting splitting bolt than it’s own practicality
Okay
Take athena
he has tdash already
Can change
I got
Rare cast
Epic anti trap
Rare bronze skin
Cast
not worth it, tdash is really good itself
Not worth it
I got the Pom or HP
Considering I have 200 Pom?
Chat should I buy Zeus and HP? Got 517 in pocket
Or should I wait for final zone and save for now?
id save
I’d buy them because you get enough obols in styx for whatever you want
Bro a proper build is insane…
Boss is struggle against
Gone in mere seconds
Alright time for big doggie
Should I list what my shops are?
Wait we can play hades on phone
I bought Netflix to play hades
ios exclusive

Portable
sounds like you’ve never heard of rng manipulation
i dont think u need any more boons
Should’ve spent those obols in the elysium midshop you have no reason to walk into styx w/ 500 obols lol 
styx gives you so many obols anyways
What’s that
I could BUY the DIAMOND
Buy it
For certain things you can quit out of the game after you get them, re-enter and it’ll put you back at the start of the room before you bought it
So you can shift rng a bit and try again
this works for bouldy, eurydice and anvil (as long as you don’t buy anything else from the shop in the same shop room)
u dont need more diamoinds
Turn them to titen blood
lightning reflex is probably the most value for you unless you get bad Hades summons in phase 1
i just beat ||the minotaur (and that other guy) || for the first time lets gooo !! im on like 24/150 health and 1/3 death defiances left but 😭 i did it
You got this
keep going
easiest clear ive ever heard
you basically did that hitless
thank u ... those guys absolutely shredded me but i beat their asses 💪
I mean if they walked in with 24 hp and 1 dd they did it hitless
like
I got
Razor shoals
Hydraulic might (rare)
Boiling point
oops
shoals
Hydraulic might isn’t too helpful in the Hades fight and it’s a bit late for it
Less so on fists
so far my strategy has been: BLOCK AND PRAY
i dont know what. an actually good strategy would be
haha no .. i had 3 dd and much higher health
dodge and pray
seperate Asterius and Theseus and target Asterius down on the other side of the arena
while Theseus has a hard time hitting you because of the pillars in between you
hmm yeah okay :O i usually go for asterius first anyway
or just have a build good enough to take them both down at the same time in like 15s
Holy shield (epic)
Deathless stand (rare)
Bronze skin(rare)
that can happen?????????????/
Deathless stand I assume?
The record is like 2.63s
WHAT
Just did that thanks to everyone help
do you remember that one guy who came in here and was talking abt how he took 4 minutes a boss fight 💀
❤️
Bug-owulf is a hell of a drug
only time beo isnt trash
you can wipe those guys out in THREE SECONDS??? how good is that build ??? i assume i need to like. unlock more things in order to get a build that good
4m kinda long
glitches
…it’s insane
oooooooh
but a decent build can make it happen in under 30s and a better build you’re looking at sub20
goddamn
Wait let’s try to win first
maximize

like i said . i assume that i cant beat these guys in under 30s where i am in the game currently
How can u send img
Yeah but with all the components currently at your disposal
Come on dis last hurdle frfr
It’s definitely possible
After this it depends on my skill
You just don’t know how to fit them together yet
oh?? wow
Shackle which one?
oh my lmao
A whole lot of dada ngl
Rare bronze skin is 7.5% right
7%
k it’s secretely 7.5% the game just doesn’t tell you or rounds it can’t remember
How can he send img
Imbeds
Keep calm it will be fine
Common problem
Dude i win after 26 run
not everybody is the same 
I mean
It’s pretty normal for first wins to be anywhere from 20-90 escape attempts
He’s on his 73rd run
Nope
Yep
His 73 death
LETS GO
He count his zag death
No he counted non-Hades deaths

aka the dead attempts prior to Hades
Nobody in their right mind counts the amount of times they died in death defiances
One token down 💀
That quick
Get off discord focus on the fight
Frfr
Phase 2
||CERBERUS??? || NOOO IM NOT GONNA HAVE TO FIGHT HIM AM I ... 😭
Yeah that’s phase 2
No
Just u :))
Probably just the “boy”
this is not the direction i was expecting the game to go wowie
Food for ceberus
So sentimental
Fists with zeus truly op
My man finally get to hug his mom
Right
There’s not gonna be a hidden boss is there?
No
Phew
But u need do that 9 times
Main quest game
U meet his mom but u will die later
Btw now I got 5 whole titen blood what should I use on to upgrade fist?
So u need do that 9 more times to unlock first ending
I loved that weapon now
There many??
I’ll get the first ending first before asking anything else
Anyway I’ll try by my own now thanks for your guidance everyone 
Nvm I need help on what aspect should I use on my fist 💀
Unlock all
NOOOO I DIED AGHGHG i hate poison
Can’t you use once at a time?
Which is the best one to use before aspect of ???
Use fist of demeter
Okay thanks
By rat or cultist
giant ass rat ...
yeah but im p sure there wasnt a cure in the room
or not that i could see as i was being swarmed with giant rats in a tiny room
All room have cure
ooh
Wat wp u using
weapon? shield
You act like playing more of the game is a bad thing
It’s spread across like 3 save files on multiple devices but hmm
:O i have rod of fishing unlocked ... and i have like 6 diamonds goddamn i did not notice
U can fishing to exchange for the chef
hades is officially a 10/10 game, you can fish
heavy knuckle or kinetic launcher .......
What's the third, but prob kinetic
breaching cross
Oh take that lmfao
oh ! okay
Is fists best hammer by far
Removing armor in 1 or 2 swipes means everyone but bosses get stunlocked
Hahaha classic new fists player ask
haha is it 😭 my bad
“This hammer or that hammer”
“What about the third hammer”
“Uhhhh… breaching cross”
i assume breaching cross is very well liked then
32 heat
Look at clears for a second 
🙏
who should i give my ambrosia to first ...
ooh. you can't ??
I only use it for trade
i thought you gave it to people and you got those little companions
That is 
wait what does ambrosia do then ??
Companion need u do they quest
Keep it
U use it to have companion
But u still need
Do they quest
You can
You havr to complete peoples favours before you can give it to anyone
but the 6 key ones are thanatos, dusa, megaera, achilles, sisyphus, and skelly, who will give you something back in return
How to reunite achilles and patroclus
I keep talking with achilles and patroclus but they dont say anything even i gave achilles 6 
you need to have done orpheus or sisyphus quest too iirc
😭🙏
I'm 5 hours in game since when can the minotaur 2v1 u.......I had a promising run😭
That normal
Keep fighting bro
Try to kill the bull first
Then theseus later
Thx
the 1v1 vs asterius is a miniboss encounter
in fact if you fight him there first he'll start the actual boss fight with 20% or so less hp
@dusty vault I discovered that.....and died two rooms later but this time Theseus came and they both jumped me:)
gaghh
forgot
anyway i died to theseus </3
i didnt like playing with the fists anyway :/
fists can be tough for beginners due to having to play very close range dw
yeah </3 i find them quite unfun to play with but maybe my opinion will change as i get better at the game
maybe
I mean I do enjoy all the weapons, just not equally
delta chamber, cluster bomb, or rocket bomb 🤔
U using rail?
yeah !
oh :0 i usually just use whatever gives me the 20% extra darkness bcuz i dont wanna over-use a weapon and get sick of it
Try to every type of wp and choose 1 to master
Rocket bomb is insane, always take
Rocket and cluster can stack together, that’s the god combo
Delta chamber is a nice quality of life addon, I find it ups your overall fire rate by letting you just shoot and dash. It’s what I hope for if rocket or cluster don’t show
delta god
What is some YouTuber I can watch play to learn something?
If you haven’t cleared the game once I would recommend looking at some of the written tips in this channel and figuring the game for yourself
Tidal dash and other sources of flat damage can be thrown together for a solid build. Doom, hangover, Zeus, etc
Dashes have I frames and dash strikes do not
haelien
however u spell it
The main plus of delta chamber is maintaining iframes on dash strikes
-# 🤓
#1 delta user
I miss bearded Linus

oh my god the temple is painfuuuuullllll
Fancy talk for your weapon collection. Six weapons, four aspects per weapon that alter its playstyle somehow
There aren’t many channels for Hades
or at least good channels to teach you the game
Unfortunately it’s a lot of the blind leading the blind last I checked aside from like Haelian but only to a certain point
Speedrun.com is pretty good
if you’re trying to learn a weapon you can see how speedrunners use it
the most fun part of hades imo is learning and making builds, so I find copying a build to be kinda boring
maybe taking inspiration, or knowing that flat damage works good for certain weapons and stuff like that
Real
But there are some things that just won’t connect outside of discord bc like
Figuring out the Jolted (static discharge) was good didn’t really happen till the dps meter mod came out
And someone who had it noticed it and went “holy this is ~50% of my dps”
Or a ton of other niche weapon info
what happened to the guy yesterday
did he beat the game
Hasn’t been back
Huh
Am I blind
or was I looking for the wrong guy
huh
maybe u were looking for another person
Hi
I discovered there is a codex in game
Supposed to get after the third run
I'm on the 15th and I didn't get
What am I supposed to do
Talk to Achilles to get the codex
💔
His post is guarding the hall that's beside and behind hypnos
Check #h1-story-discussion pins
they all has different ways to unlock it, as far as I understood for now (relatively new player too)
Nah 5 of them are practically the same
it’s just the first one that’s anything different
maybe I misread something, yep.
I mean you can check #h1-story-discussion message right there if you want to confirm it yourself
But in general it is "reach the end, open 5 other aspects, reach specific dialogue, something something".
Guan-yu, the first one you can unlock, is along those lines
the rest are the ones that are nearly the same
Stupid question - upgrading zag aspect also upgrades the other aspects basic stats?
no
nope x
Aspects are more than cosmetic, they only provide their specific bonus if you have them equipped
I mean
I upgraded the zag spear to full, but then I noticed that when I pick other spear aspects - they has same distance, damage and attack speed, despite these 3 stats being "upgraded" on zag spear.
Ah
Nevermind
I opened wiki and then understood the truth.
How to unupgrade the zag aspect? xD
…achilles inherently decreases special range
and makes it so your special needs to charge
It shouldn’t be the same speed or distance
Quit the game and load back in
this works for titan blood you just spent before walking into a different room of the house of Hades
Too late then, understood.
Can I roll the hammers or boons the same way?
If I don't got the upgrade I like.
Not really
Oh, sad.
The game disables quitting those rooms after you take the reward
you can do it in 3 places though
sisyphus room (for bouldy boons), eurydice (for her rarity and pom upgrades), and anvils in styx given you haven’t bought anything else from the styx shop on that walk thru of the shop
Ah, so if I just entered Styx, and I have enough coins for anvil, I can try rolling anvil?
But then you need to know how to actually manipulate rng to force what you want from those otherwise you’ll still get the same thing over and over (not a complicated process)
Yeah
Or if you enter styx any time after you head down a tunnel
Also depends on if anvil can even give you anything worth
Real, you only roll anvil if you have a specific hammer combo or two in mind that you could roll
smthing like lossing sniper shot for close-shot & perfect
~it’s way easier to lose one specific hammer than to lose one specific hammer and get two specific other ones, yeah
or even just one specific other one
But it’s entirely possible as long as you feel like it and have the time at your disposal
…you won’t notice any changes to outcomes if you just quit and load back in without changing anything btw,
Understood, ty
You can only shift the seed by having blood stones hit the floor / breaking pots/ summoning and reloading
and each one of those actions shifts the seed by the same value so
You have to shift it a different amount of times before you grsb the anvil/heart of stone/ eurydice rarity upgrade
typically start at 0 and work your way up by one more shift each time
First time: cast 0 times
2nd: cast once and let the bloodstone hit the floor
3rd: cast twice, etc
it can get really old really fast
holy hell xD
but you can typically get a bad hammer off within like 5 tries
It’s like a 1/32 chance to not get the hammer off within 32
now getting a specific combo of hammers from the anvil on the other hand is way rarer
less practical or time efficient
same reason to not do it on bouldy since heart of stone is such a small boost anyways 💀
Eurydice can be really valid if you have greatest reflex or rush delivery from hermes, or a really good rarity scaling boon like curse of agony or static discharge
but usually refreshing nectar is just more useful
Oh and I missed like the most practical usage of rng manipulation ☠️ bad c2 chaos
if you get a chaos portal in the first chamber of the run, and you go in and dislike his options
You can do this same tactic since the seed will be exactly the same until you pick up the chaos boon
so you can just shift rng until chaos gives u a good boon / without a horrid curse
Genuinely something that may come up in your runs compared to the other occasions
😮 that's interesting.
It's not possible to get more than 3 weapon hammers? 2 during run, and then replace one with 2 using anvil?
Another question - I've got triple dash strike on lance. Can I somehow compensate the shortened dash distance?
No to both
2 hammers regularly, the anvil
similar to hermes, you can have a max of 3 hammers / hermes boons
that’s why that spot in the styx shop is an anvil 50% of the time and hermes the other 50%
😮
Understood.
In general, building the specific boons is not something guaranteed - you can pick the specific god with keepsake, but not the entire line?
yeah but it’s consistent enough with your tools the game gives you
between god keepsakes, fated persuasion, and knowing how the game’s boon rolling/god pool system works
you can pretty consistently get most of the boons you want and usually the ones that you need
And most builds that aren’t merciful end won’t fall apart if you’re missing a duo or auxilary boon
is there a way to get more encounters per run?
X
But if you’re looking for more boons/hammers/etc a run, try dark foresight
nah i wanna 100% the game but the keepsake leveling takes so long
Taking every styx tunnel might be your only way
I mean you can always run speedpact to clear faster
whats speedpact?
forced overtime 2, extreme measures 2, and for real life time (rta), at least tight deadline 1
how does extreme measures and tight dealine help me?
Tight deadline removes the 60s long survival rooms
So you won’t be forced to spend that long in any rooms
Extreme measures 2 groups up all the lernie heads closer so you can take them out sooner and multiple at the same time
And forced overtime makes enemies spawn faster, move to you faster (so you waste less travel time), and attack faster for any zeus builds (since static discharge does a fair bit of your dps)
ok ty
oh THAT’S why i don’t see those anymore
cough sea storm super soaker cough
…that is worse than Merciful End in terms of falling apart without a single boon
Yeah lol
But I tried it recently and it’s so much fun especially with like triple beam and eternal chamber
super soaker is also a meme build where ME is a commonly run meta build
Just putting it out there in case anyone is late
I know I know
It do be funny tho
Arguably the most fun build for me, beo builds aside
I mean it’s your opinion so you’d just be arguing yourself /s

hi is heroic max rarirty of boons?
Yes, for normal boons
I've beaten Hades🥳
enjoy using the other chats now 🫡
Hello new player here started yesterday, on my 22nd escape attempt and I'm still stuck at Elysium I hate that place so much
Sometimes I don't even reach the boss duo the soldiers of that place are enough to end me
do you make sure to murder the little floating orbs that appear when the soldiers die? because the orbs can regenerate the soldiers if left alone for too long
Yeah and many times because of that the other soldiers hit me while I'm trying to hit the floating orbs
It's like they know I'm focusing I'm on the orb, and they choose that exact moment
To gang up on me
I reached Elysium with 2 death defiances for the 1st time and thought "oh wow this is my best run yet might just beat the boss this time" nahhh 4 Chambers in Elysium and already both DD used up because of stupid archers
Head is fuming going to sleep goodnight
Goodnight
Can I "roll" dialogs in house the same way to get a specific dialogue? ||spear unlocking dialogue with achilles||
i have 15 keys and ive already bought everything in the mirror of night + bought all the weapons. is it worth selling my keys to the broker? as far as i can find they dont have any other immediately important use
How do I check how many enemies I killed?
There is a pool in Zag's room
if you buy the scrying pool you can see there ^-^
Ok thx
That that one mirror for the bedroom?
Im not playing in english so im not sure its this
it should be in the bedchambers (second to last) category and it should have an icon of a little bowl on a stand with some blue water in it
yeah, thats the one, thanks
it works
I wanted to ask cus im doing the ares quest
does doing it give anything except the quest reward?
like an ending or something?
Maxing out gods is necessary for the epilogue
There's a bit of an asterisk as you only need 6 out of the 8 gods, so you could skip him, but he's also one of the easiest so like why
i havent unlocked the 4th shield aspect yet - is it worth waiting until i unlock it to buy it or should i buy one of the other aspects?
you can’t actually unlock it until you’ve invested some blood into shield aspects
ooh okay ^_^ do i have to unlock all of them?
you have to ||invest at least 5 blood total into any shield aspects||
ooh i see !
I just updated the contactor's desk and found out that all new upgrades require diamonds... So how to get those? Only way I know is by defeating the hydra with different weapons. But I've already done that with 3 weapons, and there are only 3 more remaining. So how will I get the remaining gems?
you'll get a way when you finish a whole run
There are some prophecies that should give diamonds too
And you can trade resources for diamonds (ideally just hope the limited trades are decent, permanent trades take a while)
ive grown to enjoy the trading aspect of the game honestly
although ive also made a tiny mod to alter it slightly to make it slightly better . but still ^_^
also it is just me or do the fists like ... suck. i dont like them that much. </3
Worst weapon in the game
Mostly the weakest because it’s melee and has low base damage
yeah </33
you have to get in really close just to be able to hit them and even when you do hit them you deal like low ass damage
do the boons that utilize cast (for example, phalanx shot) still work when you have the hera bow?
Yeah
Best paired with crush shot as the range of it becomes a non issue
you leave my son alone
Tried to get Merciful End on the fists twice, didn't manage it but got still got decent stuff and reached Theseus..... only to get completely destroyed
It's time to give up the fists and go back to my shield 💔
I've lost to Theseus 3 times in a row surely fourth time is the charm
Aspect of Demeter has entered the chat
not our fault that your son is BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I beg everyone, just build Zeus into fist attack and DODGE
Merciful end is a highroll meme. Just get Zeus. Get his attack. Get jolted. Get Athena’s dash if you want to feel safe. Turn your brain off and punch things to death
I could play eris rail instead and buff that zeus for free 
I don't wanna stagger anyways
But beeg punch 😈
Unlock Demeter when you can. Put Artemis on special. Find the explosive upper hammer. Atomize your father
If I wanted to play Zeus, I’d play Eris rail
If I wanted to build ME, I’d do spreadfire zag rail
Fist has no niche

If I wanted to play a cast build, I’d use any other castpect for a better boost, a less situational boost, or both
fist’s niche is that it’s fun to punch things and escape before they punch back
i loathe rail
Fist niche is for the rail haters (me)
Fists occupy the same space sword does, high damage output with reduced safety. If a weapon isn’t worth using because eris rail outclasses it then we have a very short list of usable weapons in this game
There’s a stark difference between sword and fists
sword has the base damage to warrant +% builds
and also rolling for ME spreadfire is insane
~~also part 2: playing the same build on different weapons still feels different & so = fun
exactly, why i only use one aspect
all soup builds just feel like eris but worse for me
Playing hangover chiron and asling myself why is it hitting so weakly
RAHHH FINALLY GOT THESEUS
He grows on you as weird as it sounds
You will come to respect his hater grind eventually 🤣
shoutout to The Painful Way for being one of the best songs in the soundtrack




