#h1-for-new-players

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sterile solar
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Not to mention that was a very disappointing resource dump imo

faint umbra
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im glad i got it over with hu honestly the most fun part was finally advancing. i saved up did them all at once (dying 1st chamber for 50 runs) LOL i did the same with weapons

indigo gust
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whats better: aspect of nemisis or aspect of zagreus (stygius blade)

sterile solar
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All weapons/aspects do really well

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They did a good job at balancing

indigo gust
indigo gust
sterile solar
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I like talking about the game 🫔

pine pawn
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hi, where can i spend my diamonds?

dusty vault
pine pawn
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nah

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atleast not yet

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when does it unlock?

dusty vault
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Not sure tbh

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The first diamond upgrade is releasing orpheus iirc

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Then you buy the deluxe desk, which unlocks the other diamonds stuff

pine pawn
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what happens if i give one more nectar to charon?

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oh what i can also gift to chaos?

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oh i just realized i cant send images

sterile solar
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Which is pretty much everyone but some bosses

frank plume
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What are ranks and how do I get them?

sterile solar
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Late game cosmetic for resource dumping

frank plume
sterile solar
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No idea what's the unlock requirement, but I assume just progress the game

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Since is just something to waste resources on

dusty vault
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Is post credits

pine pawn
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ahh

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why do the bosses have to change every time

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i just died to the hydra attacking me 3 times in a row

sterile solar
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dont they all triple slam in phase 3 anyway?

pine pawn
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idk i never noticed

sterile solar
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pretty sure they all do

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but yeah is just more variety for the roguelike experience ya know

timid flame
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How many phases does hades have

dusty vault
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2

sterile solar
timid flame
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My friend said he has 4 phases

timid flame
sterile solar
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He lied

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||max is 3||

timid flame
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Thanks

stiff anvil
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What’s the most surefire way to get duo boons?

hollow hull
somber frigate
quiet coral
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how do you get the mirage shot duo boon bc my luck sucks

cedar delta
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  1. Obtain the prerequisites Boons
  2. Keep getting Artemis or Poseidon Boons
  3. Be luckier
indigo gust
# timid flame My friend said he has 4 phases

everyone is wrong its actually 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459230781640628620899862803482534211706798214808651328230664709384460595508220172539540812848111745028410270193218521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648669234603456264821339360726024914127372458700660631558817488152092096282925409171536467892590360011330504882046652138414695194151160943305727036575919509218611738193261179310511854724623799627495673518857527248912279381830119491298373632440656643086021394946495224737190702179860943702770539217176 phases

cedar delta
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But but how 76 when most of the digits reside in non-integer space

dusty vault
quiet coral
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oh

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what does mirage need

dusty vault
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Mirage shot for example needs you to have one of: Artemis' attack/special/cast/call and one of Poseidon's attack/special/cast/dash/call

quiet coral
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oh alright thanks

dusty vault
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There's an upgrade to the codex you can buy to get a list of boons with their pre reqs

quiet coral
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I’m on my 25th attempt and I still haven’t beaten it 😭

dusty vault
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Meet all gods and have found at least 1 duo iirc

quiet coral
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I think

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unless there’s another secret god

dusty vault
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I'm not sure on that part

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(post meeting the final boss) ||idk if Dem is needed for that||

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Do you have the minor prophecies list?

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The side quests stuff in zag's rooms

dusty vault
quiet coral
quiet coral
dusty vault
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It should up show up soon then

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Prob just do more runs or use the linked site in the meanwhile

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Or see if you already bought it (open codex > go to a god's page and see if you see a button called offerings near the bottom)

quiet coral
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what’s going to be in offerings

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bc I just unlocked the codex yesterday

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and am relatively new

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to hades

dusty vault
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The boon list

quiet coral
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oh

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okay

dusty vault
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Ah if you unlocked it early then it'll prob take a while to unlock

quiet coral
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okay

quiet coral
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bc

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I thought you unlocked it at a set point

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bc it was random for me

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idk what I did to unlock it

dusty vault
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Wrong term bouldy
Unlocked it not so long sgo

quiet coral
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oh okay

dusty vault
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Just keep checking the work orders dude if the upgrade can be bought every so often

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Is a 50 gems thing

quiet coral
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oh alright

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is there like a way that you can get boons from gods you want besides keepsakes

dusty vault
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Nope

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That's why their keepsakes are so good

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If you still need to gift them nevtar for the keepsakes best you can do is avoid filling the god pool

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(taking a boon from a god adds them to your pool, once 4 gods are added the rest dissapear)

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Chaos/hermes work differently and are not counted for pool stuff

quiet coral
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sorry for the delayed response btw

dusty vault
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It do be like that sometimes

quiet coral
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fr

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I remember one time getting an amazing flood shot run and getting the Ares and Poseidon duo boon bc it sounded really good and it was my first duo and that boon alone ended my run the very next chamber (Temple of Styx)

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wait

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if you purge all boons from a god does it remove that god from the pool

polar finch
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Nope

quiet coral
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oh

pine pawn
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when will i see dementer for the first time?

cedar delta
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After you see snow for the first time!

barren forge
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||how do I get dad to give permission to use companions against him?||

pine pawn
barren forge
pine pawn
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How Can i make my builds better tho?

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I got to the elysium boss fight but i got wrecked

plush shadow
pine pawn
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With a crap heal build

stiff anvil
quiet coral
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how do you unlock aspect of Beowulf

sweet brook
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pinned in #h2-story-discussion

novel swift
sweet brook
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oh

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dammit lmfao

somber frigate
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I’m leaning hunterdash here

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It’s zag bow with common aphro strike

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In tart

sweet brook
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are yuo doing like heat or what

novel swift
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Also, which hammer you got

somber frigate
somber frigate
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It’s tart

sweet brook
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are you doing ap?

somber frigate
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No ap

sweet brook
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do you care about tidal dash lmao

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or ddash

somber frigate
sweet brook
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where did your mirror go

somber frigate
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It’s a new save file

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Wait is this Hades for new players

sweet brook
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oh lmao makes sense

somber frigate
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Whoops

sweet brook
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oh

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yeah

somber frigate
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Heading to builds

lethal estuary
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i just got to chaos for the first time. when it says "afterwards, (insert buff)" does that mean the buff is permanent? for every escape attempt going forward?

cedar delta
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Absolutely not permanent

lethal estuary
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how long do these bonuses last, then?

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just for one escape attempt?

cedar delta
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For the duration of your run

lethal estuary
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oh i see, i was thinking about "encounter" meaning "escape attempts" for some reason lol

somber frigate
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the curses are the ones with the durations

lethal estuary
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i see, that makes more sense

manic parcel
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wind

indigo gust
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i gave skelly 6 nectar bottles and the next heart is a golden locket. i cant give him nectar anymore. need help :/

sterile solar
indigo gust
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so now i just need an ambrosia?

sterile solar
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did you do this after you reached the locked heart?

indigo gust
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ye

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also hades has one but i dont think he gives a companion

sterile solar
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like all said, all characters have one, companion or not

indigo gust
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oh ok

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thanks

sterile solar
indigo gust
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yes

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i used AI to find out the favor so maybe im wrong

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ima check the wiki

indigo gust
sterile solar
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for skelly, he specifically tells you what and when to do

stiff token
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not exactly new, but just returned after a while

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to get new rewards from run (e.g.: titan's blood, the diamond thing, etc), do i have to turn up the heat or just switching weapon's aspect on the same heat already give me fresh rewards?

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i forgo

sterile solar
stiff token
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so changing the aspect on the same heat and weapom wont give anything new, right?

sterile solar
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if you claimed it already, no

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aspects dont matter

wet pumice
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Just started playing and trying to get the feel for what boons actually matter. Seems like some are near irrelevant. Any guides or help is greatly appreciated.

sterile solar
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it explains weapons and what boons are good with them

wet pumice
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Thank you!

smoky jackal
smoky jackal
sterile solar
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the official max per run is 4 gods in the pantheon, tho this can be increased with gods keepsake

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you dont really wanna do this however since you make it less likely to find the god you wantr

smoky jackal
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TIL, I always use keepsakes to get the god I wanted. never really noticed

sterile solar
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yeah once you have 4 gods, the game stops offering you others, you will only find the 4

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keepsakes ignore this rule and increase to 5 and so on

dusty vault
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yeah having builds around 2 gods is not bad advice but you def want to get 4 gods to lock the pool

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better odds to see who you need like that

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3 gods builds are already kinda bouldy and 4 gods is just lmao

hollow hull
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1 god builds are the best

smoky jackal
sterile solar
hollow hull
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yeah, flat damage soup is very strong on eris

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fist is kind of a worse version of it

smoky jackal
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oh Zeus+Eris huh. I'll try that

fallow badger
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how do duo boons work? do i need both boons and then get another boon thing from either of the gods or do i only need one of them and then get a boon thing from the other god?

sterile solar
fallow badger
sterile solar
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no, 2

fallow badger
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well no i mean like

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the duo boon can only show up on the third

sterile solar
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well yeah, you cant yoink 2 on the second lol

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and you need to have the 2 before it can even spawn

fallow badger
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yeah thats what i was asking i didnt know how it shows up, thanks

sterile solar
pseudo glen
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apologies if you've already figured it out, but if one of the two gods doesn't appear a second time themselves during a run, buying one of their boons if you come across charon could also trigger it. you'd have to have met both, though. when i first played it myself it took me forever to figure out the particulars.

sterile solar
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You can meet both 4 times each, if you don't have the required boons the duo won't show up

pine pawn
mild gust
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anyone know what ambrosia does?

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vaguely

pine pawn
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raises the boon rarity far as i know

mild gust
pine pawn
dusty vault
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You use it instead of nectar after a point with each character

mild gust
dusty vault
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For most characters it just advances their relationship with zag

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Certain characters will give you something else tho

mild gust
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i gave my first ambrosia to charon lol

dusty vault
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(hint: big locks in the keepsake cabinet)

mild gust
dusty vault
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You can make them lower in another way squirtnya

pine pawn
mild gust
mild gust
dusty vault
mild gust
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boss

dusty vault
pine pawn
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oh yeah got my arse whipped byy that one last time

mild gust
mild gust
dusty vault
pine pawn
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elysium bosses

mild gust
pine pawn
mild gust
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limited and rare but

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its what i have to do

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idk any other method

dusty vault
dusty vault
# pine pawn yeah im not getting much titan blood anymore, i got a few at the start of my fi...

How do I get more blood

  • beating the first boss for the first time with a weapon will net you one blood.
  • final boss drops another + after that you unlock the best way to farm blood.
    other sources:
    trading for it at the lounge:
  • 1 ambrosia for 1 T.blood is always there.
  • 15 keys for 1 blood which is super good
  • list of minor prophecies.
  • Charon may sell one blood for 1200 gold at the last area shop
    @mild gust
mild gust
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but its ridiculously rare

dusty vault
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Proof?

mild gust
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rarer than legendary boons i think

mild gust
dusty vault
mild gust
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Actually

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twice

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i've gotten it twice

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one was the attack boon for ares

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and the other was the special

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also from ares

dusty vault
mild gust
dusty vault
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Once you have both pre requisites any boon from ares or athena have a chance to offer the duo boon

dusty vault
mild gust
dusty vault
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Nope

mild gust
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how did i miss it..

dusty vault
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They are just rare (10% for a swap to be offered)

mild gust
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i have 22 hours and still havent beaten the game, is that bad

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so real

dusty vault
pine pawn
dusty vault
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Happens

mild gust
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are you sure i need multiple boons?

dusty vault
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That's an scripted event

mild gust
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Ah

pulsar frigate
dusty vault
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Happens soon-ish after you buy the fishing rod

mild gust
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it was NOT soon-ish

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it was like

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20 runs after

dusty vault
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Lmfao

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But yeah is a one time thing

mild gust
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oookay

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so how many boons would i need

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to repeat that?

dusty vault
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2 of the following
Sunken treasure
Ocean bounty
Conch shell (his keepsake)

pine pawn
mild gust
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so its either i spec into duo boons

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or i spec into legendary ones

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by investing into multiple or one

dusty vault
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At some point in the work orders should show up an upgrade to your codex that shows a boon list for each god

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With the pre reqs included

mild gust
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obtained, just was never in the mood to read all of that

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its alot easier to talk to a person than read an encyclopedia

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or a game integrated wiki page

dusty vault
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It takes like 4 scrolls to go to the duos page lol

mild gust
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thats the problem

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😭

dusty vault
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Have you reached the final boss yet

mild gust
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im chipping away at it

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but i just cant get it down

dusty vault
mild gust
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account phished

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its so over

dusty vault
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Lmao

mild gust
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is there anyway i can upgrade the pierced butterfly

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i just love this keepsake

dusty vault
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max lvl is 3*

mild gust
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whatsoever?

dusty vault
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nope

mild gust
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man watdahell

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me so sad

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cant get 10% dmg every room clear

somber frigate
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It’d be actually worth considering atp

mild gust
pine pawn
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Is it Bad that i reraly even clear something without taking damage?

mild gust
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dare i say broken

dusty vault
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I wish

mild gust
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its also forced me to play better

somber frigate
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It’s kinda not enough of a damage boost to be worth the opportunity cost

mild gust
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i have all the olympian god ones

somber frigate
mild gust
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most if not all of the cthonic ones

mild gust
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im in my experimental phase

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maybe athena's dash

somber frigate
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Being able to choose where your damage comes from goes a lot farther than a low amount of global additive

mild gust
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does the damage boost stay after i switch keepsakes

somber frigate
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Nope

mild gust
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screw u dyno

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Curse you! Blast!

mild gust
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what do i run

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im still fairly new

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definitely not 22 hours trust

somber frigate
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I mean which gods you’d want radically changes based on weapon/aspect

mild gust
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i got 2 questions

mild gust
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oh yeah

somber frigate
mild gust
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why does the gun weapon feel so bad

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it feels horrible compared to everything else

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just skill issue?

somber frigate
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Eg

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Eh

somber frigate
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It’s usually a skill issue, a build issue, sometimes a keybind issue

mild gust
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...?

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keybind issue?

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whar?

somber frigate
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Some people think reload’s default control is awkward

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Hence why I mention it

mild gust
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only thing that would be better than R which im already used to due to playing alot of shooters is R

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next best thing would be F

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my main gripe with the weapon is just

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having a really bad special

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and the reload itself being awkward

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running out of bullets while attacking and just standing there like an idiot before you realize you're out

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feels awful

somber frigate
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Special can feel awkward

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and managing your ammo gets easier to pay attention to (or rather pay less attention to) the more you use it

somber frigate
mild gust
somber frigate
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note that specialing, casting and dashing all cancel the reload animation (iirc) so you can walk while reloading

somber frigate
# mild gust teach me the ways of god gun

One of the biggest things for rail are the special hammers.
Specifically, rocket bomb (changes your special into a forward firing rocket with more base damage and speed)
Cluster bomb (5* the bombs with 70% base damage)
Triple bomb (3* the bombs)

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None of these are required for rail to be good, they just drastically improve on that part of rail

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One big thing about rail is, unless it’s spreadfire zag, or hestia, anything other than zeus strike is going to feel meh in comparison

mild gust
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despite me thinking its just human defacate

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in my opinion it was the most fun i've had

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with a weapon

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it was just so goofy that it worked

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part of that was the characters' reactions to me having it

somber frigate
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Making sure to manage your bullets and knowing when to reload is a bit important

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Animation cancelling allows you to move while reloading which is huge for keeping yourself safe

somber frigate
somber frigate
somber frigate
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It is a bit rarer though due to the sheer amount of rail hammers

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Combining zeus strike and aphro special with either zeus call or dionysus call will open smouldering air for you, a super valuable dps duo

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while filling out your kit with cores that are valuable as it stands

mild gust
mild gust
# dusty vault I wish

I wish i had screenshoted it in hindsight, but i just completed one of those rooms where i had to choose between two gods, i chose aphrodite first and zeus 2nd and zeus gave me a natural heroic lightning dash

sterile solar
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only way to get heroic boons is either trade, eurydice, or rare crop

mild gust
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my bad

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what is rare crop?

sterile solar
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ah that makes sense

sterile solar
sterile solar
mild gust
sterile solar
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eh, i like her

mild gust
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like her boons do not feel strong in the slightest

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she just looks cool

sterile solar
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slowing foes makes for safer gameplay

mild gust
dusty vault
mild gust
sterile solar
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yes

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exactly 9

dusty vault
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I was gonna say 8 then went, oh yeah hermes

sterile solar
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yeah cant forget hermes

mild gust
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😭

mild gust
sterile solar
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he does count for family fav after all

mild gust
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hermes is

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the dash boon is awesome when its epic rarity

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but thats about it really

dusty vault
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Hermes has two great boons but the rest is kinda meh

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Well one of them is a combo but still

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+dashes/hyper sprint + rush delivery

sterile solar
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i like all hermes boons except extra dash

mild gust
dusty vault
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You forget to use them or?

sterile solar
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no i just dont like having extra dashes

mild gust
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im in a run rn ill try to go for hermes to get hyper sprint

mild gust
dusty vault
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Rush delivery increases your dmg based on movement speed

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So with hyper sprint RD at common already increases all your dmg by +50%

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Epic RD is +100% boost

sterile solar
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only extra dash i like is dash nova

mild gust
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ew

dusty vault
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How

sterile solar
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ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

mild gust
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that might be like

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the worst daedalus for me

somber frigate
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zany

mild gust
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guys im fighting annoying prick and his pet dog

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wish me luck

sterile solar
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pet dog

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lol

somber frigate
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Idk if I will with that tone of voice shadeeyeroll

dusty vault
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Smth smth sacred crocodiles

mild gust
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He just

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dashed into his spear

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and took me to 1%

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Ok

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how come he wasnt doing that before

somber frigate
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depends on which fight you’re talking about

sterile solar
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yeah i thought you were talking about champions lmao

dusty vault
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Same

sterile solar
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hence the pet dog comment

somber frigate
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given it’s Hades for new players I’m assuming it’s heroes but at the same time

mild gust
sterile solar
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he doesnt dash to spear

dusty vault
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Oh the yeet move

mild gust
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also im winning

sterile solar
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lmfao, the tag team attack

mild gust
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yeah no he did it a second time

somber frigate
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shadeeyeroll I’m even more correct for not wishing you luck if you called Asterius a pet dog bouldy

mild gust
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almost killed me just not quite

dusty vault
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You'll see asterius kneeling and Theseus will walk towards him

sterile solar
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ive used em3 for so long i forgot that attack existed

dusty vault
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When they enter in contact > yeet

mild gust
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i just hate the other guy

sterile solar
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we all do

mild gust
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hate by association

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hes using poseidon

dusty vault
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Asterius is a homie

mild gust
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im going to kill him

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bouldy mark my words

somber frigate
mild gust
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that was actually

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really easy

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why was that so easy

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i usually dont even get him to 2nd phase

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on a run this horrible too

mild gust
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also is it just me or

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is black shawl like top 5 keepsakes

dusty vault
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Is a keepsake for sure

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It exists

mild gust
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i might have the worst takes in this entire server

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listen man i just really like big damage numbers

dusty vault
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Eh I've seen worse

mild gust
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spiked collar?

somber frigate
mild gust
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best keepsake

dusty vault
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Is solid

somber frigate
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Spiked collar is easy top 20 keepsakes

mild gust
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at base

dusty vault
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I remember shawl cuz one speedrun wr has it iirc

mild gust
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at 3 stars idk

dusty vault
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Or pb idk

somber frigate
mild gust
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this run has a singular daedalus hammer

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and im at the river of styx

somber frigate
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Should’ve run dark foresight

mild gust
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i got it upgraded to max

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but i forgor what do

sterile solar
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increased chance for golden laurel rooms

mild gust
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what are golden laurel rooms..

sterile solar
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basically less meta currency rooms

somber frigate
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wherr blue laurels are out of rin currency

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It makes it a 70:30 split instead of a 50:50

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Which is significantly more

mild gust
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what is rin currency..

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why are you guys speaking in hades zagpls

dusty vault
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Boons/poms/hearts/etc

sterile solar
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so theres 2 types of room rewards, meta currency (nectar/darknes/gems/keys) and actual run boosts, like boons, poms, hearts

dusty vault
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Meta currency is darkness/gems/etc

sterile solar
sterile solar
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so youre going to see better room more often, instead of dakrness, keys and what not

mild gust
dusty vault
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Classic

mild gust
dusty vault
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The point is, DF is so strong that you end up seeing like 5 blue laurel rooms across the entire run

sterile solar
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hopefully, yes, since at one point you wont need darkness

dusty vault
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Most of them being in tart

sterile solar
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and even then, at that point, every boss gives darkness as a reward

dusty vault
sterile solar
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^

dusty vault
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You want to repeat boss kills for that

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Or troves/buy at charon if available

mild gust
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what im saying is

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i have gotten 1500 darkness by complete coincidence while running maxxed out DF

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and its supposed to lower my darkness gain

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i guess you said darkness gain from bosses is

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much better

sterile solar
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yeah, once again, is to maximize run power

mild gust
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so that explains it

dusty vault
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Darkness doors are gonna be like what

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50-80?

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In total w/o DF

sterile solar
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youre sacrificing meta currency for better runs

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eventually you wont even need meta currency, so is a win/win

mild gust
somber frigate
somber frigate
somber frigate
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Just get it from fishing and killing bosses for gemstones

mild gust
#

why is trippy shot so awesome btw

sterile solar
#

cause dio is a homie

mild gust
#

fighting john hades

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on a run this horrible

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wish me luck, actually this time

sterile solar
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gl

mild gust
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done

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stubborn defiance already procced

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its looking grim

pine pawn
#

ahh what do i do against theseus?

mild gust
#

GUYS HOW AVOID LASER PLEAASE

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@sterile solar

pine pawn
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i got into his 2nd phase but i got overwhelmed by dyinysus

mild gust
pine pawn
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and i cant damage him because of his shirld

mild gust
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when theres a big hunk of meat following you around

pine pawn
mild gust
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if you get him you're just dead

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is what ive learned

pine pawn
#

oh well xD

sterile solar
mild gust
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they HURT

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though

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got him to half health

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Not bad

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im gonna run in there with zeus aspect and clobber him

pine pawn
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when can i gift nectar to than?

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i saw him in the house just now and i couldnt he just disapperaed lol

sterile solar
#

gift him before talking

mild gust
pine pawn
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yeah i tried to but did nothing

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i guess only if i meet him while escaping?

sterile solar
mild gust
sterile solar
pine pawn
mild gust
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he dissapears before i can atleast

pine pawn
#

also what does codex index do?

sterile solar
#

boon list

pine pawn
#

i have 24 escape attempts and i have been to the elysium bossfight twice how would you say im doing

sterile solar
#

matter of fact, theres no bad

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everyone progress their own way

pine pawn
#

is there a way to see which weapons i already got titans blood with?

sterile solar
#

once you clear

pine pawn
#

yeah im just not sure i already got it with malphon

sterile solar
#

gotta clear once

timber flicker
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Ok I picked up this game a few days ago. I've unlocked the pain contract thing, and I'm looking to get 5 TB on each weapon for now so I can clear with each.

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I got Zag aspect on fists and bow, now I need to do the others

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What's a good "early" aspect to build around?

timber flicker
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One better suited for newer players I guess

pine pawn
#

when can i unlock the big locks in the keepssakes?

sterile solar
topaz dew
sterile solar
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oh the bond

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it forms when you fully bond with the character

pine pawn
topaz dew
sterile solar
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theres info on the wiki on how to do the favor of each characters

pine pawn
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ah i see

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lot to do still

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also what am i supposed to do against shielded enemies? with greatshields its not that bad but when i get close to theseus i get whacked

hollow hull
desert totem
#

how do i get quake cutter?

novel swift
desert totem
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yeah

novel swift
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Just get more hammers, it will show up eventually

pine pawn
#

hell yeah i beat theseus

topaz dew
pine pawn
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whats the ambrosia for?

topaz dew
#

Nectar+ i guess

sterile solar
#

after you complete someones favor you can only gift them ambrosia, not nectar

pine pawn
#

how do i get enough diamonds to unlock the upgrades from the contractor?

sterile solar
topaz dew
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idk if spoiler or not

sterile solar
#

but yeah youre right

topaz dew
pine pawn
#

do i have to clear all of the styx rooms to get cerberus to let me thru?

sterile solar
pine pawn
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what are the chances?

sterile solar
#

then 33% once 3 rooms are left

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50% with 2

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i dont think is weighted

dusty vault
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Is like a 52%~ for a 2 sack

sterile solar
#

ignore what i said then

mild gust
#

guys help they're making me choose between unhealthy fixation and sweet nectar what do i do

dusty vault
#

What biome are you in

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And are either of these needed for the prophecies

mild gust
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im in asphodel

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about to fight bone hydra

dusty vault
#

I'd prob take aphro's legendary just to get it out of the way?
Idk what poseidon core you have so poms may be useless

leaden whale
#

Hello

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I am a new player attempting to complete my first play through, have gotten to || hades many times but can not clear his final form ||

sterile solar
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should spoiler that, but i recommend taking your time in the fight, dont be so aggressive, he hits hard, but the attacks take a while, so you can safely dodge out

leaden whale
#

Btw I really like ares and his boons, but I heard they are weak so should I stop

sterile solar
#

you can def win with ares

leaden whale
#

How do I blur sorry

sterile solar
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add || before and after whatever you wanna spoil

leaden whale
#

Ok thanks

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But how should I go around making a build

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I like using sword, gauntlets and spear of Achilles when I can get flurry jab

sterile solar
leaden whale
#

What is heat

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Also is there a way to know when u get 100% completion on the game like not speed runs

sterile solar
sterile solar
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some draw the line on the story, others on steam achievements, others on the prophecies, others on absolutely everything else

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so have to be more specific

leaden whale
#

Oh ok thanks

barren forge
#

||is there any benefit to forging a bond for keepsakes? Or any other benefit?||

barren forge
sterile solar
#

No

cedar delta
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Need some bonds for story completion

sterile solar
#

By benefit im assuming run wise. And story completion does nothing for it

somber frigate
lament gust
alpine root
sterile solar
alpine root
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btw the nem run os going horribly

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elysium and still no merciful

sterile solar
#

File room is good, you need that for a lot of things story wise, as well good info like match history. I don't remember what new jobs did

cedar delta
#

Just read Toko's mind gosh

dusty vault
alpine root
#

can i spend them to get thanatos to show up? been 8 runs where is my pookie

dusty vault
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is stuff that buffs darkness/keys/etc

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for example fated keys makes picking them give you a reroll

alpine root
#

ah i se

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just got ares again praying to rngesus

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still no merciful im ready to kms

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I GOT THAN

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LETS GO

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AND I GOT MERCIFUL

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LIFE IS AMAZING

sterile solar
alpine root
mild gust
#

how many phases does the final boss have

alpine root
sterile solar
mild gust
#

i can barely get past the second

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😭

hollow hull
#

The first phase is ||sectioned into 3, and the second phase is sectioned into 2||

alpine root
mild gust
sterile solar
alpine root
hollow hull
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||if you take the optional modifier, the third healthbar is just one section||

mild gust
#

can you really blame us

mild gust
hollow hull
#

||it’s normally referred to as p1.1, p1.2, etc||

sterile solar
hollow hull
#

No, ||extreme measures 4||

mild gust
polar finch
#

Well you dont need ||hell mode for it||

sterile solar
#

By hell mode I mean the pact of punishment, not to be confused with the actual hell mode

mild gust
#

there's an actual hell mode?

sterile solar
#

Yes

mild gust
#

tf is a pact of punishment

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dont answer that

sterile solar
#

Clear a run

mild gust
gloomy pike
alpine root
cedar delta
#

After neglecting Toko for a bit squirtdevious

gloomy pike
#

started a new save, had a day or two filled with runs and no than

alpine root
gloomy pike
#

until he came on the next run randomly LMAO

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unsure whether he's supposed to show up more frequently in next lil runs but yeah

sterile solar
alpine root
sterile solar
#

You've won twice only?

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Just saw victory boasting, very nice

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And yeah hes a shy one

alpine root
sterile solar
alpine root
#

: D

surreal pebble
#

do fishes respawn

sterile solar
surreal pebble
#

like can I fish every run or the fishes run out eventually

little flint
sterile solar
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Yeha fish are endless

surreal pebble
#

thanks

dry cedar
#

What a game, just had to say it!

burnt ember
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Is this chat active?

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I wanted to know what I should pick from ( I got two chambers one with diyonisus and zues and another is a deadulus hammer) I'm going for a caste run I have Beowulf aspect and diyonisus caste and zues special

neon quiver
#

ur special doesn't really matter with beowulf

burnt ember
neon quiver
#

well u shud take zeus

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cus if u don't get the duo u can at least get good zeus tier 2s for when u do

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like jolted or double strike

burnt ember
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I'm sorry its trial of god's(YK where there are two god's together in same chamber)

neon quiver
#

ohh

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i thought there was an erebus lol

burnt ember
#

Yes I have wine guy caste with 200 damage per caste

burnt ember
neon quiver
#

well u can't get the duo at all from the trial but if u want the duo then more lightning boons are always gud for it

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u shud prolly be taking zeus anytime u can with lightning builds cus there's so many good tier 2s

burnt ember
#

Okay I agree on that

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I was confused that if I miss the hammer won't show up again

#

Are there any good boons for bull rush which would work with Beowulf?

neon quiver
#

charged shot is the main one

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sudden rush is good too tho

burnt ember
#

Ugh this is hard idk what I should go for

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Tough choice

neon quiver
#

where are u in the run

burnt ember
#

Tartarus

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I think it's like 6 or 7 chambers

neon quiver
#

id only worry about missing a hammer if ur near the end so id say it's safe to take the trial

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tartarus trials r easier too but still

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trials can still be hard tho so if ur worried abt dieing then just beware ykwim

neon quiver
#

np

burnt ember
#

If I win this run I'll send the ss in victory boasting

neon quiver
zealous anchor
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family favorite seems busted

#

2.5 percent more damage per boon?

somber frigate
#

Not per boon

zealous anchor
#

oh so

somber frigate
#

It’s still the stronger option

#

But it caps out at 25% unless you’re doing something kooky

somber frigate
zealous anchor
#

privileged status is meh, idk if i have ever gave an enemy 2 status effects

somber frigate
#

Priv status is pretty much exclusively useful on things like hangover builds where you know you’ll be taking 2 status effects

#

hangover + weaken

zealous anchor
#

oh yeah that

#

eh i dont usually get hangover and weaken

#

family favorite it is

somber frigate
#

family favourites is just bonus damage conditionlessly, and it applies to your first and second hit so it’s more impactful

zealous anchor
#

true

somber frigate
zealous anchor
#

wouldnt be like

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times 7

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oh wait i didnt realize it caps at 25% lmao

#

anyway thanks for the help

somber frigate
#

Your god pool caps at 4 naturally

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You have to force in more via keepsakes or other ways that I don’t want to explain this early in the morning

somber frigate
zealous anchor
#

oh i didnt know every run you get 4 random gods

#

thats interesting

somber frigate
#

so you can get a pool of any 4 gods given they show up

#

It’s not a ā€œlocked inā€ four when you start your run

zealous anchor
#

oh i get how people do builds now

somber frigate
#

You force in gods via keepsakes in tartarus and asphodel and aside from that just pick up gods that won’t get in your builds way or have synergy

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Ideally you keep your pool at 4 gods (so not getting 3 extra random gods prior to asphodel and needing to force in your 2nd build component) because each extra god is reducing your odds at seeing the ones you need for your build

plush tusk
#

Hello people, does anybody know what exactly does upgrading Stubborn defiance in the Mirror do? I feel like the explanatory text stays the same, or am I missing something?

hollow hull
pine pawn
#

what did i achieve by getting a bond iwth charon?

sterile solar
pine pawn
#

sticker?

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oh yeah i see it

#

also reduced prices when xD

sterile solar
#

never

sterile solar
pine pawn
#

hell yeah i funally got a merciful end

#

after countless attempts xD

somber frigate
pine pawn
#

holy sh1t i just beat hades with 24 hp remaining

mild gust
#

guys

#

i already have double edged

#

chaos gate or hammer

novel swift
#

Chaos

#

Look for attack or dash attack

ebon aspen
#

Sup, new guy and just beat the game for the first time

#

And yea, attack and dash from chaos tend to be a 50%+ increase

hollow hull
grave linden
#

I just started hades a few days ago and I don't really get how or when to use cast? with the mirror buff I guess it can be mildly useful for fighting a boss but I don't ever find myself using it during a run whatsoever

dusty vault
#

you can take a cast boon to unlock a duo you want

#

stuff like pos/zeus can give you some AoE

mild gust
#

got 2 defiances left

#

im gonna do it

#

really banking on a kiss of styx premium when im in the 3rd layer

hollow hull
#

But yeah up to you

mild gust
#

@hollow hull you know actually i do have athena

#

right now

#

do i waste my 1 reroll

#

and try to get the boon that gives me a defiance use

hollow hull
#

I mean

#

What’s on the screen

mild gust
#

phalanx sure footing brilliant riposte

hollow hull
#

Take sure footing and just look for another Athena

mild gust
hollow hull
#

Rip

mild gust
mild gust
mild gust
#

ok this is quite literally

#

the perfect run

#

if i somehow lose this im quitting

#

guys im quitting

mild gust
pine pawn
#

when can i fish?

dusty vault
#

You'll also hear a ding at the end of an encounter/at the start of a friendly chamber (shops/npc/etc)

grave linden
#

can I not quit the game in the area where cerberus is?

somber frigate
#

However you can’t quit after having bought a boon or pom

grave linden
#

bruhhh I just did

#

that's a bummer

#

thanks

sterile solar
#

Be mindful next time you join tho

pine pawn
#

how much gemstones does vanquishers keep give you?

#

also which diamond upgrades should i prioritize?

sterile solar
dusty vault
pine pawn
#

erebus, vanquishers keep, pitch black, fated, vintage, brilliant, darker thirst

sterile solar
#

darker thirst if you use the dark thirst weapon

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i dont find myself going got erebus much, but if youre into that sure

#

i guess vanquishers keep is nice for the gem grind as well, i forgor what the rest are

dusty vault
#

I'd do fated keys first tbh

#

vintage I guess is the nectar one?

pine pawn
#

also i can buy the administrative chamber idk if thats something importants

dusty vault
#

matters later on

sterile solar
#

oh those are the meta currency ones, i never reroll so ignored the keys one for last, i think nectar is the best

dusty vault
#

I'd do the run upgrades first (so fated and nectar first, other 2 don't mater as much) then stuff like vanquisher's and admin chamber

sterile solar
#

yeah i forgot those are that, would def focus on that

#

makes the meta currency rooms somewhat not a complete waste

pine pawn
#

also which pacts of punishments are easiest to start off with?

#

im on 2 heat with the blade rn

sterile solar
#

im a black sheep here, is best i dont give advice xD

dusty vault
sterile solar
#

been running ap2 ever since i unlocked the pact xD

pine pawn
#

bro how do you even build with that

sterile solar
#

i dont

pine pawn
#

ok šŸ˜‚

sterile solar
#

just make do

pine pawn
#

skills are all you need

sterile solar
#

yep

somber frigate
#

This message specifically

somber frigate
sterile solar
#

i feel persuasion would help a lot more

somber frigate
#

I

#

don’t agree with that mirror guide entirely

sterile solar
#

i did mostly, except the fated authority part

somber frigate
#

I’m on board for everything but shadow presence and fathorit

mellow cradle
#

How to cast build?

#

I just need a cast build that I can work with, I've got Hera's aspect and Poseidon's aspect
Not Achilles' aspect though, I'm still unskilled with the spear

sweet brook
#

hera just needs aphrodite cast

#

and put all the poms onto it

#

and that's the build lmao

frigid hill
#

it really depends if you prefer one or the other

#

i for one prefer Hera over Poseidon, but thats cuz i just find the sword worse than the bow

sweet brook
#

pos aspect likes going for athena cast and then getting the lightning phalanx duo

frigid hill
#

its really good too

#

its the only sword aspect i enjoy tbh

sweet brook
#

the sword where you dont have to play it like a sword

mellow cradle
#

So for those two, should I take Stygian or Infernal?

frigid hill
#

nemesis is fun, so is the hidden, but getting that extra cast dmg is fun

sweet brook
#

both infernal

mellow cradle
#

K

sweet brook
#

all cast builds take infernal unless you're building for dionysus or demeter cast

frigid hill
#

god i havent played in a while, can i get a reminder what stygian and infernal are?

mellow cradle
#

It sucks that I can't just continuously spam load with stygian soul
Would be funny

sweet brook
#

infernal is +2 casts

frigid hill
#

ohhh right

mellow cradle
#

Stygian: One Cast but reloads
Infernal: Extra casts

frigid hill
#

i never remembered the names of the mirror upgrades

polar finch
mellow cradle
#

Speaking of Artemis
Should I take PP (that's the shorthand for pressure points right???) if I'm using chiron's aspect?

sweet brook
#

it's like fine

#

the only time pp is worth taking is when the other options are bad lmao

mellow cradle
#

Skul

#

Also, just for fun
What should I run for mirrorless/boonless runs?

sweet brook
#

hestia shackle

polar finch
#

Hestia rail is good, can do zag shield if you get charged shot, or do zeus

mellow cradle
#

It probably sounds insane now that I'm thinking bout it

sweet brook
#

it's been done at 41 heat lmao

mellow cradle
#

Hestia ia the charged reload shot for the rail, right

polar finch
#

Yeah

somber frigate
mellow cradle
#

After post-rush, yeah

somber frigate
mellow cradle
#

guh

#

aphro cast with ares attack is so nutty

#

wtf

somber frigate
rigid current
#

hi, is there anyway to fix the godmode dmg reduction ? I'm at a percentage where I feel ok, but I don't want it to go up and make it too easy.

sterile solar
rigid current
mild gust
#

guys how do i do the no boon run

#

for the special dialogue

hollow hull
hollow hull
#

Hestia, arthur, zag shield are all common

#

Use fated authority

#

So the dialogue at the end triggers if you don’t have any sellable boons by the time you reach ||hades||

#

You don’t need to avoid boons as long as you can sell them all in the pre Styx well so just save fated persuasion rolls I guess

hollow hull
sterile solar
#

Underworld customs forces you to sell, but you'll be selling anyway, so it will have no effect unless you just wanna add the heat number

plush tusk
#

Heya people, do Satyr Halls count as an encounter? For upgrading keepsakes.

plush tusk
sterile solar
#

yes

plush tusk
#

Sweet! Thanks

zealous quartz
#

should i be able to be offered breaking waves if i only have tidal dash?

zealous quartz
#

huh. zero poseidion boons are spawning after i got tidal wave and typhoon. strange.

#

does taking typhoon cancel out the ability to get breaking waves