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gems, keys, nectar, better gems, for the 4 biomes
chaos is darkness
final boss+ for boss drops
i got aspects now, which one is the most broken?
achilles spear?
i know bows are all s tier
too
hidden shield is arguably the most broken aspect for speed
meta wise, chiron is one of the worst aspects lol
zag bow is kinda mid, hera is very good for speed, rama is very good for heat
but out of all aspects, beo is def the most broken
okay2 thanks
Most easy to play is probably hestia, shoot reload shoot reload
i still dont get how dark foresight exactly works, isnt olimpian's favor better?
no
dark foresight gives you way more good things
boons, hearts, poms, coins
vs bad and boring things like darkness and gems
you’d rather get more boons and poms to upgrade the boons than have boons sometimes be rare
oh ok
how do i unlock companions? ive already maxed out nectar gifts for megaera and keep on talk to her after every line but i cant get her to accept the ambrosia
they all have a requirement to lift the lock, you can i think just google it, but in case of meg it's really just beating her and her sisters over and over again and keep talking to her, perhaps also em1 i'm not sure tho
Just had a run with a lot of Hangover stacking. Am I right in assuming anything that doesn't mention Attack/Special/Cast etc is straight up global damage and would affect Hangover ticks? In this case Strong Drink, Bad Influence, Blood Frenzy.
What else can I fish for (tried for Aphro or Ares duos but no luck)
Yup, if it says "do more dmg/enemies take more dmg" it affects all your dmg sources
(with the 2nd one also affecting dmg that doesn't come from zag like traps)
As to what else you can get, mainly more poms on your hangover source and hermes hyper sprint + rush delivery
Thanks! Crit too, perhaps, with Artemis' "everything can crit" and the curse of increased crit chance that spreads to a nearby target?
Yup
And same difference applies, Pressure points is anything from zag and hunter's mark also applies to non zag sources like traps
(the only weird one is the Dio-Artemis duo boon, which only increases crit chance of things that already have crit chance, so the duo alone doesn't work for everything)
question. Do you get titan's blood for every aspect or just every infernal arm?
Per weapon
Have you escaped yet
yeah
Then ||you can use the pact to keep gaining blood||
ohhhh okay
so ||if i get more bounties i get more blood?||
also you can get a lot of blood from finishing prophecies
Basically yeah, blood is one of the bounties
every ||heat level gives a new set of rewards for each boss||
okay
||so you get 1 blood/1 diamond/1 ambrosia/another blood for killing each boss with each weapon at each heat level up to 20||
thanks!
but yea if you’ve already cleared check your prophecies, the ones for clearing with every weapon, every mirror option, and every ||pact condition|| will take a few runs to get through but it’s like 30 something titan blood which is huge
Checking the broker is also useful
Either for early game ambrosia -> blood trading or the occasional 15 keys for blood
"Murderrrrerrrerr 🔥 🔥 🙏 🗣️ "
-tisiphone the goat
Does God Mode reset when I turn it off?
no, it stays
Just remember the mirror has 2 sides.
Are you referring to the accrued % of damage reduction?
yes i mean it does not reset to 0 when you turn it off
it will stay at whatever it is. if you have it at 80% and you turn it off and back on, itll still be 80%
or 20 i guess since it doesnt start from zero iirc
Oh whew glad I never used it then. Would drive me insane to know that the game would've recalled my having used it
what do you mean?
God Mode leave permanent trace = Packrat goes insane
i see
Mmhm! I am a bit OCD about values in software
I bet you've never wanted to hack systems in order to change timestamps of your MMO achievements 
i had to let go of my neurotic game and achievement tendencies but i used to unlock my achievements in a certain order
but no i swore off cheating and modifying achievement after the first and only time i did it
wait that is possible?
Alma used to lead a life of crime 
i changed my system time for the original stanley parable achievement 😔
no more! im a believe in legit chievos

guys which aspect should i get for aegis first
wait im dumb
i have enough to get both
Zeus is fun
go with zeus
Just put the blood into Zeus yeah
It’s all g
but im using zeus 
Just go Zeus on Zeus and it doesn’t matter yeah
Bc base damage doesn’t affect bolt damage
Yep
And go for thunder flourish and jolted
Double strike, high voltage, zeus legendary, call
Bunch of zeus
whoops all Zeus
okay thanks
ill try
i alr have dionysus call tho
(i love festive fog)
dio call is good on zeus shield
jojo reference
true
but zeus shield charges calls pretty fast so it's great
dio and zeus calls are the best for dps and charging those up fast will give you a pretty massive boost to dps
that's fine as long as it doesnt go on the special lmao
tbh i hope i get dash boon
dem dash kinda sus but sure
if i get the hermes boon that gives me extra dash its over for hades
THE RANGE ON MISTRAL DASH IS CRAZY 
all it does is apply chill but you can just take atk for that in this case
Oh dio call is good too yeah
should i get lightning strike static discharge or double strike
Disregarding rarity, you want discharge
okay
bcs the only rare boon is double strike rn
whoopsies demeter is angy
frozen touch 🤑
But common jolted you might want to take something else and wait for better jolted
Or hope for rare crop to hit it
eh, just get the poms
YEEEEAAAAHHH GREATEST REFLEX
EXTRA DASH WOOOO
i REFUSE to get artemis boon
never ever
wait why is megaera not here
why only tisiphone and alecto
em1 is either 3 at once or 2 of them
That’s how I felt after discovering hestia but there’s always more heat
aegis is difficult
because
i keep forgetting that i have a special
but i dont like how slow it is
yea
So for zeus, you want to dash right up to an enemy/group, throw your special, charge up a bullrush, and then recall/let go of bull rush
So you kinda run into your shield, hopefully triggering explosive return if you have it
Basically don’t let it get too far away from you and focus on protecting with bull rush while your special does the work for you
ohhh okay
Look at any 64 heat run and you’ll see what I mean
Don’t worry about doing it well, I’ve cleared moderate heat with zeus shield and I’m still pretty bad at the combo
Imagine you get a call boon from chronos which stops time, when you get a full call boon you hear "Za Warudo"
real
and the fact your pfp is the charon keepsake
even funnier
I just changed the profile last night, thought that since my 64 had me go into ely with hourglass it'd be a good avatar 🙂
It’s free damage
Takes no time to throw
Doesn’t disrupt your actions
literally me and delta chamber
why is bone hourglass charon's keepsake anyway
shouldn't it be than's
Than's keepsake is a butterfly, since Than's job is to collect the souls of the dead so that they can be taken down to Hades it's appropriate (within ancient greece there is a significant connection between butterfly and soul, in fact I think the word was the same).
As for Charon and why he has an hourglass I'm not entirely sure, it might be reference to him being the oldest of Nyx's children (as far as we have met them) - but I think this is a stretch.
also slightly related, the butterfly balls in elysium are also called soul catchers
so than's keepsake being a butterfly makes sense in that regard too
yea but sometimes I throw it too long or too short
A big part of that is just getting a sense for the shield’s range from repeated use tbh
Hey guys, I'm new to Hades on Mac here, for the Mirror of the Night, which should I increase?
what are the best controls for k&m? having a little trouble
mine's default but the special I switched it to right click
I used the default but changed B to Tab and R to MMB
dash at cursor?
I know people switch cast and special around but I tried it and it felt wrong
I find that my dashes are stuck on wasd instead of the freedom of dash at cursor but that also limits me from dashing away
M1 attack, M2 special, M3 cast works for me
special m2 and cast m3, also F for call, V for summon, shift for reload and then move codex and boon info to M and N or something
do you have dash at cursor on?
No wasd works fine for me
One of the biggest advantages of m&k is how much easier it is to dash and dashstrike in different directions, you can just keep cursor in one direction and then dash in the other
@thin parcel what button do you put for dash?
Space
oh ok gotcha thanks
I haven't played minecraft in years but I still have the perfect WASD+space+shift muscle memory haha
death defiance and shadow presence definitely
Eh, shadow can chill
thanks
Focus on defiance/2nd dash/heal
oh yeah those
what weapon do you use mostly
After that once you unlock more of the skills go for hp as general ones
There is one that's more late that's insanely helpful but tbh, unlocking more of the mirror won't help if you don't have the darkness for it
I haven't played it
Anyone here change the dash button for kbm
some people do
I changed mine to Lshift
What's your special bind? I'm using default q
q
But I'm thinking rclick is better and cast for scrollwheel
The special animation is long enough I suppose
That it should be enough time to shift the finger
My right click is for specials
Right click, I have cast on a side button
But default is fine if it works for you
This is what I do
I don't cast very often anyway
on this page: https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Duo_Boons do i just need any of the listed boons per duo boon requirement for there to be a chance of the duo boon to occur?
Duo Boons are a type of Boon which combines the powers of two different gods for a unique effect. Duo Boons can only be obtained when you have the prerequisite boons and, like all boons, are lost when Zagreus dies and returns to the House of Hades.
There are 28 Duo Boons in Hades, shared between 8 different gods: Aphrodite, Ares, Artemis, Athena...
as in, if i want to get freezing vortex, can i just have the aid and slicing shot and have a chance to obtain the duo boon?
thanks
i thought i had to have all the listed boons for it to be a possiblity, glad i was wrong
Yeah, but also uh wrong chat I think
Playing this game with a controller
gamer
ok thanks
to me playing with kbm is weird, the dash is weird on space or the shift key
any tips
idk i feel like those are the most common places for them lmao
prob just takes some time adjusting to it
i've never really seen anyone dash with any other button besides those two
oh ok gotcha thanks
should I increase Death Defiance or Greater Reflex?
Who shall I gift the nectar of the GODS?
greater reflex is pretty cheap isn't it
same as first lvl death defiance
either way you're gonna die pretty early without both of them lmao so doesnt matter too much
for gifting, just whoever you want works
Oh ok gotcha thanks
Hi, what is GOD mode?
you start with 20% damage reduction that goes up when you die, up to 80%
run records are kept separately than normal mode
for speed running do you turn on this?
also when you turn it off and on again, the % of damage reduction stays the same
should i turn on easy mode?
if you want to
if youre less interested in the gameplay, or if you just find it too hard, etc etc
i think the game does start out hard but its easy to get used to once you get more uprgades
oh
I think I've beaten this game with GOD mode though, on the Switch
maybe I just stick with the normal
Yeah just know that dying a lot is normal
As long as you do even the smallest progress, both in-game progress and your skill level and awareness, you're doing fine
You turn on god mode if you don't feel like going through that process
if i exceed my heat gauge will it give me more rewards?
for example, if i exceed the heat gauge by 5 levels will i get x10 blood, x5 ambrosia, x5 diamond
You get the bounties for the lowest heat only
So like need 2 heat but do heat 5 it counts as a heat 2 win, repeat same pact then it'll count as heat 3 until it catches up
I wish lmao
is family favorite or privilaged status better?
depends on the build, if you start with Weak/Hangover/Chill/Doom then it worth considering but if not I'd usually go for family favourite.
Family Favorite 99% of the time is better
i'd say i priv stat is better about 10% of the time
When
An inconsistent +15% is hardly useful
At higher heats when that’s actually relevant with AP2, you’re probably taking RI anyways
It's 30%
I think this is new player so high heat isn't a factor.
As opposed to Olympian favor
?
Doesn't priviliged status grant a 30% increase to damage
right, my bad
more accurately pstatus 0% fam favs 25%
i mean pstatus is good in a few select builds, mainly drunk builds
it's just that in regards to the more meta builds, that's about the extent of it since the gods that naturally give curses pair better with gods that dont naturally give curses
except dio really
but in a more casual playthrough, you're probably gonna be able to get it up more consistently but the overall build would probably be weaker than a meta build regardless
I used to defend privilege status religiously until I realized how situational it is
i lost at ||second half of Hades|| for the second time in a row 😭
Hello everyone! I've recently heard a lot about Hades, and my friends have also been playing it. I'd love to try it out and get into it, but I don't have the money to afford it. Would anyone be kind enough to gift it to me on Steam? I would really appreciate it! Send me a DM if you can. I can't wait to get into this game!

isn’t it like $10 on sale
Not on Steam unfortunately
On steam?
Says $24.99 for me
yea not rn but there’s a decent chance it’ll be on sale within a month
Hmm
I can't exactly buy it even if I have the money
Because my parents wouldn't let me
So my only option for playing it is getting it gifted to me
Idk if this is the place to ask for a stranger to gift you a game
What is the place?
i dont think there's any place where a stranger would gift a game lmao
the only exception would be like in a giveaway somewhere but you'd have to find wherever those are held
and then hope they're giving away hades lmao
you should ask your friends if theyll do family sharing with you
if they have it on steam
^
Generally places don’t just have people willing to spend money for strangers but yeah family sharing on steam is probably your best bet
Or you could wait for your birthday and have a friend/family buy it for you instead of asking random people
Oh heck I'll take five!
celeste difficult
they couldn't buy anything in general because their parents wouldn't let them
here
just steal money from your parents, what are they gonna do? disown you? nah
@white rain
just nibble 1 dollar every week
you'd have to steal their credit card
i guess you could buy a gift card but that depends on whether or not they can buy it in the first place in a store so similar problem
there's literally tons of ways
like what
cashapp then load it with money
ask a friend to gift you on steam using their money, and then pay them back.
Tell auntie/uncle to buy it for you, etc
you dont have allowance? im guessing youre still young if your parents wont buy you anything
how would you load cashapp with money lmao i've never used it so i have no idea how that works
i also feel like getting a friend to gift it on steam was prob one of the first solutions they tried to do but didn't work out i suppose, which was why they asked here. if they didnt ask their friends first then that'd be weird lmao
and getting an auntie/uncle to buy it is assuming a family situation they might not even have so kinda just depends. also depends on the type of family since they might be against it too
i know this is my type of boring old person opinion but if they are like 13 and their parents decide they shouldn't play the game
then they shouldn't play the game
uh right for just the main story i have to || finish like 10 runs or something ||
I can’t believe I have to say this, but that is something you should absolutely not do. Don’t steal money from your parents kids
steal it from their parents
Imagine respecting one's elders, especially the ones that love, nurture, and house ya! 
lost for the fourth time to ||hades second phase|| ;-;
you'll get it, just keep trying
Wait does demeter have a special line when killing redacted? In one of my runs demeter said "reap what you sow" after my screen freezing
I didn't even use her call during it
Yes, but only if you're using her Legendary Boon
As packrat said, is when you use her legendary
And no, its not exclusive to the final boss
Happens on any boss (final boss is just more common because what you need for winter harvest)
Fills to full on last stage
Absolutely nothing
oh ok
Just try and kill her before it gets to be too big of a deal
what are some good keepsakes other than the old spiked collar?
it's the only one i use
God keepsakes, acorn, hourglass
That’s about it
Earring with stubborn defiance
Tooth
thanks
Tooth, spiked collar and coin purse are good when starting out. Once you've opened up the mirror enough you can safely start playing with others
Oh I forgot purse yeah
guess what, fifth time losing to ||hades second phase||
Generally my keepsake path is god keepsake into tart to control build, another god keepsake into aspho if I didn’t get the others I wanted in tart, purse into aspho if I did, hourglass/acorn into ely, and acorn into styx
btw, is it just me that, the more health i have, the more damage i take?
like i get stupid for some reason and start taking a lot more damage
overconfidence is a slow and insidius killer
true, prob that
This is real
reached ||sphynx temple|| lets see if this is the time i beat ||hades||
good luck 🫡
btw, is it better to complete clear ||the maze|| or to just grab the ||bag|| and go?
I guess it depends on ||whether you want the rewards or not||
bag and go
you won't get more fountains so you are often just gonna end with more dmg taken
so its time, to fight again
dead yet again
got him to ||half health in the second phase|| yet again
What’s your aspect/build
And what parts of the second phase do you have the most trouble with
i mainly do Spear with aspect of Achilles (something lke that) and follow the guide of the steam page for boons
i think its the spinning atack, and when there is enemies the laser gives me trouble too
tdash start into zeus or arty on attack?
or cast focused build
ares?
athena
the spin attack is mostly dash timing and you won't get iframes from dash striking
athena dashstrike doesn't save you from the spin
if it's the small laser, you can stay behind and if it's the big one, try and hide behind the pillars
might just be a dash timing thing then
the smaller laser targets pretty slow so you can still grind damage from behing
and also
Varies by weapon
what weapon/aspect
But generally you can't go wrong with divine/tidal dash lol
cause i think its athena dash
they're all about the same
oh fr?
Also yeah weapons just ball with whatever
Do you have aspects yet
Do you have all 6 weapons?
5/6
Aight no aspects then
Do a run then once you are back check the equipped weapon in the courtyard
Is basically weapon upgrades
Uses titan blood
THE GUN DEALS SO MUCH DAMAGE
it do
consider zeus start on the rail
Don't judge weapons much by testing them at skelly
^
i think im going to switch to rail, im getting too rushy with the spear and taking too much damage
Rail is quite good that said
But as dragon mentioned start zeus attack on it
Or it'll feel baaad
you could try hunting blades
it's a more ranged option on the spear
what is hunting blades
how do i even use duos
start ares cast and look for arty
duos are too rare for me to find any ;-;
my uncle told me about them but idk how to use them after tartarus
do you have the full mirror unlocked
Get 1 boon from 2 gods > luck into one
there's a talent that gives you a slightly better chance at getting one
duos?
If you know what you are doing nah
if you have the prereqs there's a good chance you'll get it eventually
There's a lot of optimization you can for them
oh ok
like, the hidden aspect of the shield is optimal with a certain duo boon and I've rarely had a run where I never get it
Filling all of the core boons (attack/special/cast/dash) as the game prioritizes these if they are empty.
If the god has their status curse as an extra boon (like zeus' static discharge) take it asap as those have a 50% to show up over others.
If you want a specific duo, you'll want to remember to not open others as it makes chances a 50/50 to get what you want
(you can buy a codex upgrade to have a boon list + pre reqs of each god)
Then using chaos' favor boon, Eurydice's refreshing nectar or yarn of ariadne (charon well, 70 coins) all boost duos/legendaries chance by +10%
(also there's like 3 mirror skills that help with duos, one used less often cuz getting just 1 duo is not hard most of the time)
They are the last 3 tho 
what are some good boons and strategies for beowulf?
start pos' cast, grab artemis attack then mirage shot
is bugged on flares so the 2nd flare doesn't have reduced dmg
always dash strike into bullrush
best hammer is charged shot
get hermes hyper sprint + rush delivery, chaos cast dmg/+1 stone, same for charon well
thanks
Hi Guys. I am a new player (technically) and I am pretty sure I have done every single thing but the ranks. Any advices on farming Darkness? To make it more fun? It feels a little bit sad that I ran out of dialogue with the characters/
The ranks?
Oh the resource director titles
Pick a fast weapon like eris or hidden shield and just go fast lol
Grinding darkness isn’t super fun ngl
Try to have a separate goal like sub 8 or a certain amount of ||heat|| and rack up attempts. You’ll get darkness while not actually having the goal of getting darkness
I have 100k on my main save and never have actively tried to farm darkness
Yes. I am halfway through with 290 attempt or something like that. It's getting a bit repetitive. Love that idea. Like to not mind about it. What you mean with syb 8 and rack up attempts? I do not know the terms
Oh yeah, so have an alternate goal such as getting below a certain time
Or ||a certain amount of heat||
Also this channel is for people who haven’t beat the final boss yet so you might find it better elsewhere
Hmm
You really ran out?
I still get new dialogue lines 400+ hours in
Very few but still
It’s hard to run out of the 21000 in game
I've got plenty of tips with which you can average about 2000 darkness per completed run.
Up to more than 6000 in good cases.
Even with this is a bit tedious though. Not sure I'd bother of I had to do it again tbh.
- Always take the thirsty weapon.
- Take Chaos egg until at least Elysium.
- Take all chaos gates and roll if needed for non common darkness boons.
- If you get to Furies without close to +100% darkness multiplier, die and reset.
- Only force Poseidon after filling all core boons (usually Elysium) to maximise chance of darkness boost for final boss (this is a cherry on the top but does little earlier on compared to an Epic chaos boon).
My best Darkness multiplier at final boss was nearly 16x, giving 4000 for final boss alone and nearly 8000 in the entire run.
Also, check all troves and force them whenever you can. Getting nearly 1000 darkness for a trove is a good feeling. And obviously check shops to buy darkness (but this is really minor compared to racking up a good multiplier).
And because the resource director costs go up linearly, if you are halfway there in rank, you're only a quarter of the way there in darkness.
what are some good boons and strategies for lucifer?
nevermind, just discovered the super soaker
Super soaker def works, but a more meta option is Zeus on attack, Poseidon on dash, and any big % boost like Artemis or aphro on special
ive heard a lot about poseidon on dash, why is it so good?
is it for the simple fact that it spaces out the enemies?
Highest damage dash in the game
And for luci in specific the big AoE helps detonating the bombs
Kills a lot of small Tartarus enemies while you can position to focus on the bigger ones
Also makes styx a joke with breaking wave
Yeah
got a 13 room row streak with absolute 0 healing, died by entering the boss room with 17 hp (elysium boss)
sad because i was dealing alot of damage
real
it do be like that
370 Health, High Damage, lets go again to ||hades||
Did not even to ||second phase|| '-'
All that you mention are spoilers in this chat, please spoiler tag them
well im not the only one...
Feel free to ping anyone else that's done it
I just read the last few messages in here
Thanks for tagging your messages
okey
I don't see anyone else mention final boss stuffs, today at least
Anyway, good luck with the runs! Your clear is close!
i mean i was talking on 03/03 about the ||hades second phase fight|| and both me and the other guy did not use spoiler tags
I see, well that's unfortunate, I hope nobody got spoiled because of it
Ive got 50 titan blood and some aspects leveled, I can unlock every hidden aspect. I’m wondering which aspects should I invest first. My goal is to clear most amount of heat possible with each weapon, while reasonably fast (no speedrun). I enjoy the fists because fast and dynamic = fun (but falls late game), and Rama because one shot boss phases and possibility of clear. Currently sitting in 10-11 heat on most weapons and just recently finding tiny trouble.
Summary => Best weapons to invest for most heat possible? 50 titan blood. Enjoying fists and Rama.
I’m considering maxxing hestia because Eris is not fun for me, kinda unintuitive. Achilles too because only good spear although I’m not hooked into cast builds, kindaaa boring. Also I’ve heard opinion on hidden spear is changing. Hidden gun looks kinda fun but it seems not to be the best choice
hidden shield and bow are the best for heat. spear is good as well but hammer reliant
sword and fists are generally considered some of the worst aspects in the game but some still enjoy how they play anyways
rail is kinda middle of the pack, but if you dont like eris then you wont like hidden rail
hestia is good for heat as well tho
horrible, never take damage control with hestia
or in general tbh but esp not on hestia
you can get the 2 heat somewhere else
every aspect except like arthur can handle forced overtime so that's not a problem
when learning rama i would recommend slowly increasing it the more you get used to it tho, rama has a pretty steep learning curve
Yeah I’m enjoying that learning curve so far
That’s why I enjoy fists too, trying not to get hit and all
And that’s why I find Beowulf and cast builds boring..
Any other aspect with a steep learning curve or high skill ceiling? 👀
hestia at full potential is pretty calculated button mashing so maybe that
achilles has a pretty high skill ceiling for speed, idk about heat
oh zeus shield
it's easy to half ass and get results, but it's hard to full ass and get better results at the far end of heat
But I’ve heard Zeus is slow isn’t?
Not looking forward to spent a lot of time in Elysium..
it's not fast but it's very consistent
every aspect spends a relatively long time in elysium tbf
some less than others, namely beowulf lol
Guess I have to getgood then
zeus isn't that slow in ely tho imo, but it's not like fast either
rama can spend a long time there too actually lmao
yeah that's a bit annoying
Bosses are fun tho
but like if your main concern is spending a long time in ely, then that's like every aspect, there isn't much you can do about it other than go like the meta aspects and hope you get good rooms
Aight thanx for the help,
Think I’ll settle for hestia and see where that takes me
Any build recommendation btw? I’m thinking almost all Aphrodite and Artemia
But not knowing where to put each where.. 
aphrodite attack, artemis special
poseidon or athena dash
pos for damage, athena for safety
the reason for aphro atk over artemis is bc with artemis, 15% of the time you dont deal a lot of damage, 85% of the time you overkill something. you'd only take artemis atk if you have hella additive
Aight, how does this apply to Rama?
Because currently I’ve been running it with Artemis on atk hoping for Double or triple shoot
But I’m not sure if it’s optimal
her attack is fine with twin/triple shot, but if you cant guarantee those then aphro attack would be best
arty atk with twin/triple are good, esp since you'd ideally get hunter's dash for more damage
but if you can't get those hammers, then it's the same reasoning as hestia: you'd deal no damage most of the time or overkill sometimes lmao
it averages out fine against bosses, but most of the game isn't bosses
So wouldn’t it be better to go aphro attack, arty special and fish for hunter’s mark then?
And ofc beef up attack and dash with chaos and hunter dash
for the special you'd rather take flat damage
arty special and hunter's mark isn't bad but you'd rather have flat damage since it's more consistent and only needs 1 boon
and does more damage more consistently
Dyo would be best? Due to boons with aphro and arty?
you dont need duos on rama
if you do want to get a duo, you'd rather have lightning rod
Yeah I know but, duo gambling makes my monkey brain happy for some reason
All right then thanks for the help again

Dio rama slaps
Hey hey, im new here, ive been playing hades for a good week or so but i am stumped on something, ive given Thanatos 6 nectars and attempted giving him abrosia but in the codex one of the heearts is locked, what can i do?
You need to do a favor for each character and their lock
Than is pretty much just keep talking to him
All the favors are on their respective wiki page
ohh okay, thank you ^-^
I can beat the furies sometimes, but not very consistently. Any tips?
I have beaten the game a couple times, but I keep getting good runs and dying on her
Lets go for the 931204th time fight ||hades||
i got spammed with ||green skulls|| and got drained
Hey guys, how do you play this game with kbm + a controller?
hi guys. just a newbie here. I just want to unlock aspect of rama fast. do i need to beat the game first before i have the waking phrase from artemis?
Do you have hidden spear revealed first of all
oh not yet. so do you mean i have to unlock that first?
Yeah
Just to be specific you don't need to buy the aspect
Just have it available
(anyways method for all hiddens pinned in #h1-story-discussion )
Spoiler that name but just once
That's a spoiler in this channel, please tag it
I think that wasn't the bit Radish was referring to for spoilers. ||Hades|| is the spoiler.
Why do you even know about ||hidden aspects dawg ||
Hidden bow is so hard to play
Unless special spam 
The bow is hard (in comparison) to play
just hidden
zagbow is really easy to play
and chiron
But less complicated
you still die quick
if you're good that means you can play it even though its hard lmao
bow >> fists
The dash strike in question:
Also chiron bad
Bc bow is bad
And special in general unless hidden bow
chiron may be bad but at least its easy
True
Just like fists
So does the bow
Plus they're quick
The bow is slow and doesn't hit very hard
Build it better then
lmfao bow is one of the best weapons in the game
E
any weapon can be good if you make a good build for it imo
Yea
but like yeah just build it better and use dash strikes
But some weapons are just better
bow is more consistent than fists
Ok
Like bow 
Dis hecking squid
how do i unlock aspects
i got titan blood and i think every thing is ready but dont know where to get the aspects
Unlock all weapons then do a run
Check equipped weapon in the courtyard
How the heck do I get the Court Musician's Sentence to appear again? It's been forever since I played the first time so I don't remember, and google's giving me 17 different answers
I think u talk to hades about it and he’ll tell u to go to house contractor or smth
Can someone give me tips on elysium, its so annoying, + i’m rlly new and i don’t know what boons to get n prioritize getting
For boons the rule of thumb is
Weapon has high base dmg (think bow/sword attack) use a god that adds % to your attack (like artemis/aphrodite)
If the attack is too weak/hits fast (rail/fists attack) use a god that adds an extra effect to your attacks (zeus/dio/ares)
From there you can add support boons to the boon you took
https://www.leereamsnyder.com/hades-build-guide
Long guide but it's sorted by weapon and aspect, also gives hammer and combat tips
But if you really are very new you don't wanna worry about manipulating boons ig. Mostly learn the patterns of your foes
Idek if the guide mentions [REDACTED] but click at your own risk
(I still think is good to know, maybe not to the extend of the guide but is not hard to learn)
dyno caught lacking
Getting the boon list upgrade for the codex makes it a lot easier anyways
Rephrase: I never cared about spoilers even when I was a n00b
True true
Than looking at a wiki each time you get a boon 
Like this as an introduction works
Cuz something like rail w/o the right boons is 
I put off getting this until much later cuz I thought it'd just be a static list like the wiki, I didn't know it'd highlight what boons I already had lol
Makes it good for duos
I'm so mixed on rail
I learnt it on KBM but it sucks so much on controller and I can never decide whether to use auto aim
What about spear
Depends on aspect and hammer but usually is a % boon
Zag spear if you get exploding launcher, you'd go for % on special (then hope for charged skewer)
If you pick up flurry jab you can do zeus instead
Achilles spear picks flurry jab and you can focus on either too (but here your atk is mostly for support, focus is on cast)
So if you went ares cast you want artemis atk for example
The other option is serrated point which I don't like but it works
Eh i dont use cast that much
Also % boons
They are quite strong but you do need to know their builds
And aspects really make them shine
Alr
If you aren't going for a cast build you can leave the cast slot empty often
Just use it for boiling blood
Or take a cast boon to unlock a duo you want
(hades spear also goes for either exploding + charged or serrated point)
The spin hammers could also work but tbh outside of the 4th aspect they are kinda meh
I’m still at tier 1 achilles spear 
Is fine, if you want to do like flurry jab + zeus the dmg buff doesn't really do much
And if you want to attempt a cast build Achilles lvl 1 gives as much as maxed out pos sword for example 
Should i get achilles spear tier 2 or get hades spear
Achilles is often regarded better
That said if you do want give hades spear a shot and not feel like the blood was wasted
You can unlock hades spear, do a run and if you don't like it, pause and press give up
It reverts the save to before you unlocked it
(just don't go into zag's bedroom, that saves the game)
I don’t rlly like spin that much tbh, so should i just upg achilles spear or try n get other aspects of weapons?
Either works
Just keep in mind some aspects will feel a bit underpowered due to the limited amount of blood you have at the beginning
There's a pinned tier list on what's the "strength" you can expect from each aspect/per level
(you can still win with them underleveled just to clarify)
Alr
What does post rush mean
Press special twice (if you mean achilles)
Achilles swaps retrieving the special with you rushing to it
Does the game get harder based on how many escape attempts you have? Because i used to get to Elysium easily but now i can’t even get past the furies w/o having to use all my death defiances
Some things can change but not on pure escape attempts
Once you reach meg enough times you'll find her sisters instead for example
Same applies to the other bosses having some changes the more you defeat them
Mostly any increase in difficulty is related to a mechanic you only get after defeating final boss the first time. Until then, difficulty is fixed but obviously using different weapons and picking different boons affects each run.
Unlock more mirror talents (and remember the mirror has 2 sides) to give yourself an easier time.
^ if anything the game becomes easier cuz you get more of the mirror
Especially the last skills
And using a god keepsake to start a run with a decent likelihood of a preferred build helps.
If you tell us your favourite weapon/aspect I'm sure we can give tips for a few simple but strong builds ideas. Also, things like Zeus or Poseidon dash can work well on almost any weapon.
isnt the increased dodge keepsake pretty decent too?
I guess its my skill issue or the fury sister that shouts ‘murderer!!’ Is hard for me
Where do you get that?
can agree
I’m still 2 days into playing hades so ig i have time for improvement 
God keepsake means the keepsakes that are from any of the gods (except hermes)
So like zeus/poseidon/etc
Ohhhh
Their effect forced the first boon to see to be the god you have the keepsake grom
I remember someone telling me on reddit to use athena keepsake for tartarus n then skelly for asphodel
So if you start with zeus you'd get zeus first (some niche cases can make this not work but is rare)
Starting athena for her dash is very comfy
Not my choice but I see the why
Prob
Nah, both plume/butterfly are pretty bad
Needing to keep them on for the entire run kills any consistency/no other keepsake (especially the defensive keepsakes)
What is an easy way to deal w the increased dmg n harder enemies in Elysium? Its been rlly hard for me
Sure, a good plume run can give you that defense but if it doesn't work out is 
It kinda just boils down to learn enemy patterns/have a good build
Wait Achilles is gay?..
Ye
Oh
Are there any straight characters or is it just bouldy
Sir, that's a boulder
Also jokes aside, meg/Orpheus/dad are some
(but also I feel like I should ask, why do you want to know)
Is orpheus a girl or a dude
Dude
Just curious, the gendering in the game confuses me, is hypnos a girl or a boy
Boy
Ight
have you met chaos?
One thing about Elysium is that enemies move around and attack a lot. There's a Poseidon boon (Razor Shoals) which makes enemies take damage when they move, and a Zeus boon (Jolted) which makes them take damage when they attack. This can help a lot in Elysium. If you pick up Poseidon dash (nearly as safe as Athena dash) and then look for a Zeus attack boon somewhere else, you can even end up with both (esp. via "Sea Storm").
Razor shoals damages enemies regardless of their movement
No, it definitely doesn't.
🤔
When you knock them away, they are inflicted with rupture
But the rupture damages regardless of movement
No, rupture only damages when they move.
It's why it's so effective against certain enemies.
Mb
And not things like the butterfly balls so much.
Interesting
But (iirc, and I'm not 100% on this) the knock back counts as "being moved".
So multiple knock back should be super effective.
You can't proc shoals/Sea storm against the thwomps (whatever their actual name was)
Nor drakons
Skullcrushers lol
The thwomps…..
I mean
They are thwomps
But zag says what they are when he encounters them usually
You absolutely can put shoals on thwomps. It can even kill them while they're moving and airborne.
I.e. out of sight.
Applying knock back is what adds shoals, but knock back doesn't require you move the enemy. Once it's applied, if they don't move it has no effect, but thwomps can move.
Is the chthonic keys no longer usable after I unlocked all the mirror buff?
Have you already unlocked every weapon?
Yes
Then you can trade your keys at the broker and contractor
The big guys in the lounge?
The one with the parted hair behind the counter
Also how can I get more diamonds after defeating hydra with different weapon? Other than completing prophecies and buying from charon?
Complete bounties. Please don't ping me for every reply
Bounties are available after you clear your first run, by the way
Question, how do people play this game with keyboard and mouse + a controller
i think it's mostly controller+mouse or controller+kb
Probably left hand on joystick and right hand doing other stifff
The main advantage is 360 degrees movement instead of 8 directional
Why cant i gift achilles nectar anymore, i check my codex and theres a heart w a lock or something
||You need ambrosia from beating the elysium boss||
||that's not exactly true, to unlock the lock you need to first meet the prerequisites (of which I can't remember but it involves completeing a specific prophecy)||
Achilles's favour might be the hardest, it requires other people's favours as well
aphro's and achilles's take a while
is 45 fps is playable for hades?
wat
anything after 55 is actually impressive whaaa
only ever got to 58 from chaos shield
this user did not beat 64 heat
99.9% chance
and if they did this is an alt
lets see
asking what to do after beating 64 heat in the new player's channel is certainly a choice lmao
yo good run
bro look at my run in fan works
me who can’t beat first clear
And now they run away in shame.
Aw I missed something funny
anyways i don’t play the game anymore but it took me like 80+ attempts to do 53 heat
so this was funny
unfortunately they deleted everything
No I think they got banned lmao
yeah and purged
Does Winter Harvest work on bosses? (Shatter chill foes at 10%)
Pretty sure yeah
There’s a vid of killing asterius through his remaining hp and it uses winter harvest
Family Favourite, does it mean that for every different Olympian you have a boon from you gain extra %dmg? But only once stack per olympian (and not chaos either)?
yes
it’s by far the better option
pstatus sucks
Does refreshing nectar (rank up next 3 boons) give larger chances for Duo? Or do Duo trigger automatically when you have prerequisit skills
*boons
Former, is +10% for duos/legendaries
Is the bow never dogpoo? Spear with range seems to have almost the same range and is ten times faster+mobility
Bow is on the top of weapons
Get used to the dash strike power shot timing
Also the hammer do a lot of impact for it
The difference vs spear is that you have more than 2-3 good hammers 
Also very good aspects across the entire weapon (minus chiron but is still an ok "first few wins" aspect)
Bow is for elves >:C
Btw what does Dark Foresight do? Increase chance of those rewards specifically?
i love bow :(
it just has a good rhythm when you get used to it
also i know how to build it because i played it a lot
Basically yeah
You'll see way more gold laurels (in run buffs) and see less blue laurel (darkness/keys/etc)
Its one of the best mirror skills
When spear says "attack 40% longer" does that count dash attack?
No
It doesn’t?
Any tips on fishing?
Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.
Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.
A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.
Man I hate when games add an insanely lucrative fishing-minigame to a game which has nothing to do with fishing
Poseidon. QED
Ye but by that logic we'd be shagging shades for coin because of Aphrodite etc.
What does ECHR mean? Is it "European Convention on Human Rights"?
Yes, it's for another server but ye my doctorate is on ECHR and harmonisation of rights in the union etc.
Snazzy!
It's hermes that gives the 10g per area boon ye?
Yes
Is there a way to hide or remove the "amount of tries" counter?
I know it's just singleplayer but my OCD makes me feel like I have to tryhard every run because it's recorded. When I'd rather just be able to goof around
yeah i feel that lol
i hate resetting because of that
i don’t think there’s a way to turn it off but if it helps you can think about how really good speedrunners probably have tons of failed attempts because of resetting and needing to die in a run before every speedrun attempt
I remember when I was like that (I stood in maggma on purpose for 7 runs yesterday
That’s something that just comes with time tbh
I was really attached to my win ratio
But to speedrun I’m resetting atleast once per session and usually many times so eventually it’s just part of life
The speedrun modpack has an option to clear run history lol
Hi, new here (a bit late lmao). Got to redacted a few times, but always only on 1 dd and unable to do much. I think I have some grasp of boons and stuff but i'd like to clarify some stuff
firstly how do you get more titan's blood? I want to try more aspects but I just can't seem to find a way except saving up for River Styx.
also i must say it is awkward getting to helpful shade guy in elysium with full hp and dds, then losing them all in the rooms after just to die to thesus
u get more blood by beating first and final boss with each weapon
and then u get another way after ur first clear
So basically I'm limited to 6 until I beat redacted?
alright, guess i'll keep working on it
Dark Thirst really likes picking bow and shield for me lol
Please spoiler final boss name or move discussion to #h1-discussion (see channel description).
Hi everyone hope everyone is well
I just bought the game and reached area 3 by run 10 is that good ?? I'm debating if I should use god mode or not
That’s pretty good. You prob done need god mode
Really ?
Nice any tips ??
Dashing gives you invincibility, the mirror has two sides which you can unlock after you talk to nyx at some point
% based boosts are best on slow attacks, flat number boosts are best on fast attacks
Try and focus on one source of damage and lean into that one as opposed to spreading yourself thin
Mostly just keep playing and figuring stuff out
Gl
Tidal dash is good
Ok thanks
You can fish ??!!
Perhaps
That's cool tbh
Haha
How is everyone ??
I'm new to Hades so hopefully nobody minds if I have some questions
Q-questions? 
Haha 😆
Hey so I can beat the furries sometimes, but I can’t very consistently. any tips? Also when do the furies drop titans blood and how can I know in advance?
Try being deliberate when timing your dashes and only use dashes when trying to dodge. Do not try to attack mid dash because you lose your iframes that way. Furies will drop 1 titan blood per weapon, there are more ways to get titan blood after beating the game, but for now you're stuck with 6.
Can I check whether I did it with a weapon or not? Also damn all 24 of those cool weapons and I can only get 6, 12 if we have no bonus, and less than 6 if i want the expensive stuff.
You can not. Not until you beat the game once.
Of
Yea, it's a bit tough at the beginning
I’m trying my best making plans and doing good, making it to Elysium most runs if Ms. Murderer doesn’t end my life because I decided to play the twin fists for fun and SHE of all furies shows up
Boons that are unlocked when taking certain boons from 2 gods
Work orders are the only true gameplay upgrades, the rest are cosmetic yes?
Yes

how do i unlock the codex?
Just keep talking to Achilles basically
okay
Is obtained really early into the game
i made a lot of progress in 1 run so i never got it
(only exception would be if you advanced the story too quick-)
There it is
If you really want it commiting return to home to let the dialogue catch up would help
Are keys used for anything after unlocking all weapons+skills, or can I turn em in at the broker?
Also (if it's a spoiler you can spoilertag it) how or when do I unlock a use for the super-ambrosia? I've given ordinary to folk but I've still not found any use for the uber one
Trade away
Also for ambrosia is gift enough nectar > reach lock > do favor for character to open > ambrosia
Most favors are basically just "keep talking to them"
A few of them are also tied to prophecies
They are on the wiki if you want the specifics
Ah tyvm. Btw how many gems do bosses give from that 5diamond upgrade
Fully honest I don't remember
Depends
With dark thirst it's like
20% increase
Iirc
10 for the ||furies||
20 for ||lernie||
30 for the ||prick and the bull||
50 for ||redacted||
50 for the Ceberus boss fight yea
beat the furries lads
uhh idk I dont "beat the furries" that often
but tho I can say
in terms of speed
Meg < Tisi < Alecto
for Meg you can just reaction dodge her attacks like no dif
for Tisi she does her double dashes but still reactable if you get used to it
but Alecto, she weird, like she fast as hell, doesnt do much damage tho
I just got Hades on my phone
Which means I finally have the ability to chat here😔👌
Also is there anything I should know before I start play this game
try to get stuff that work well together i guess?
Okay
are you familiar with roguelikes
Yeah I played one before
yeah just know that dying is still making progress
the more you play the easier it gets
how are the mobile controls
Okay
you get more upgrades as you play and you get better so don’t get frustrated
surprisingly not too bad
Haven’t played yet so I don’t know
i already struggle with pc
but any game with 20 buttons on mobile will be bad
can't do mobile 😭
but its more functional than i thought it’d be
terraria mobile...
So bad
lmfao i’ve never tried it but it seems like a nightmare
i heard that mobile is like functional but not much more
Dashes have iframes, any other action during them will cancel the iframes
Okay
Does Jury Summons (more enemies) increase gold?
Dash attack isn't counted in "Attack" right? Just like Special is its own thing
Most attack buffs work on dash strikes
(the ones that don't are pretty much sword exclusive iirc, shadow/cursed slash)
Those only work on the standard attack
Shadow doesn't apply dmg buff/cursed doesn't heal on dash strikes (both are hammers if that's what you were wondering)
what is the best mirror upgrades?
Check pins
the better option tends to be situational for a lot of things