#h1-for-new-players

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honest fiber
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Now I get his boons more

outer flint
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It's nectar

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Ambrosia is something else mb

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But of give nectar to skelly he gives you something very interesting

lofty urchin
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both are orange bottles tho

outer flint
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One is fancier

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And a lot harder to get

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I only have 1 ambrosia

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Alr

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I need to fight the final boss

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Gimme a min or 2

twin lantern
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what boons replace each other?

honest fiber
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Ooh a Hermes

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I haven't seen him in awhile

outer flint
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Things like that

honest fiber
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What's this exclamation mark with three gems

outer flint
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If you get an attack boon while you have already have one it will replace the other

outer flint
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If you're on your phone rn take a picture of it so I can see

honest fiber
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Can't send photos

dusty vault
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Send to another discord and copy img link

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Or use smth like imgur

outer flint
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Dm it to me

honest fiber
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I'm just jumping in

outer flint
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K

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I have to fight the final boss now

honest fiber
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Ohh

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It's Eurydice again

outer flint
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Oh that

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Yeah

dusty vault
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Oh the ! Rooms lol

outer flint
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Each hell area has their version of Eurydice

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Different characters

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Do different things

honest fiber
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I WIN

keen basin
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do i need to pet cerberus 20 times before i can get the keepsake?

honest fiber
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Greatest Reflex: You can dash more times (+2) in a row

outer flint
keen basin
# outer flint Nah

really? it wont let me give cerberus nectar (it only shows the option to talk to or pet him)

outer flint
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You have to do another run

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I think

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I losy

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Lost

honest fiber
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AAAAAAAA

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THIS IS ALLOWED?

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Serrated Point: Your Dash Strike hits 3 additional times, but your dash has -25% range

outer flint
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I like that one honestly

honest fiber
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Oh I'm absolutely taking that

dusty vault
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Serrated ron

honest fiber
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I dash 4 times

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And a majority of my damage is dash strike

outer flint
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It pairs good with another hammer perk

honest fiber
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it's time for Hydra

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God I hate this fight

outer flint
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Just put your cast in it for extra dmg

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If you have e that mirror perk unlocked

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YO WHAT THE HELL

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I glitches inside the shopkeep r

honest fiber
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Ok I won

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I should not be able to do that much damage

outer flint
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Ok

honest fiber
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Is Myrmidon Bracer good

outer flint
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Yeah

honest fiber
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I'm dashing into things

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So it's probably pretty nice

outer flint
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Yeah

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I got a poseidon boon les go

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First boon

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Well

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Got a legendary as my first boon

dusty vault
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Bracer is pretty nothing

outer flint
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He doesn't have much

dusty vault
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Use tooth/acorn/collar

outer flint
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Blud

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He don't have tooth or acorn probably

honest fiber
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Ahh

lofty urchin
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i wonder if well ever see a continuation of this saga

outer flint
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I lost

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I forgot to put on tooth

honest fiber
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Bad Daedalus Hammer

dusty vault
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What are the options?

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Although often 2nd hammer for spear won't be much

lofty urchin
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was more talking about this

honest fiber
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Quick Spin, Viscous Skewer, Breaching Skewer

outer flint
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Yeah

dusty vault
lofty urchin
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💀

outer flint
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Prioritize death defiance

lofty urchin
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im just gonna send you a screen shot

outer flint
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Bet

honest fiber
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Who's the Yellow Circle with 4 orbs

dusty vault
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That sounds like athena

honest fiber
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The other option is the Dionysus

dusty vault
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Spear with serrated right

honest fiber
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Yes

dusty vault
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If you don't have a dash, athena for divine dash is always good safety

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Specially with the less dash distance of serrated

honest fiber
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I have the Poseidon Knock back dash

dusty vault
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Ah

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Do you have an attack boon yet?

honest fiber
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I actually don't think I do

dusty vault
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Also this is elysium right

honest fiber
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Correct

dusty vault
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If you don't have an attack I'd still take athena for hers at least

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Although what gods do you have?

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Ik athena/pos/dio at least but idk if you have a 4th one

lofty urchin
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how do you unlock the 4th ||weapon aspect||

honest fiber
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A few Hermes

dusty vault
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And prob some chaos idk

honest fiber
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No chaos surprisingly

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Ok turns out

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I CAN'T READ

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I have Divine Strike

dusty vault
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Oh lmao

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Do you have a call?

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If not dio's call is pretty good

honest fiber
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Ok I'll go for Dio

dusty vault
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Wait

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Do you have another hangover boon?

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Eh is fine probably, can only be special

honest fiber
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Got his Call

honest fiber
dusty vault
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Aight nice

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Btw don't wait for the full bar to use his call

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Is a waste

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Lesser calls do the 5 stacks just fine

honest fiber
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A double room?

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IN I GO

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Oh that's interesting

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I have to pick Dio or Poseidon

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I assume the other attacks me or something

dusty vault
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Aww was waiting for the shock lol

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But yeah

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Pick your poison

honest fiber
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THANK YOU POSEIDON

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I WILL GLADLY TAKE LEGENDARY

dusty vault
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Which one

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He has 2

honest fiber
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Second Wave

dusty vault
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Oh wait prob no fishing rod

honest fiber
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Literally perfect for my build

dusty vault
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Yeah makes sense

honest fiber
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Wait is that an ambrosia

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Damn I really have to beat this boss

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Which one of these guys do I focus first

keen basin
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are you only able to equip 1 keepsake? my friend said to gift a nectar to skelly and i got a keepsake from him but now i got another nectar and dont know who to give it to

dusty vault
dusty vault
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Basically just gift at least 1 nectar to everyone to have options

keen basin
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but who should i use my 2nd nectar on

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i dont have enough nectars to gift everyone 1 for now

dusty vault
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In the house cerberus and hypnos are decent, other options are to gift to the Olympians

honest fiber
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Ok really??

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Even the emote

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Ugh

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My death defied was actually used up

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During the Meg fight

keen basin
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for cerberus, do i need to pet him before i can gift it to him
cerberus doesnt give me the option to gift him a nectar so ive been pettin him for a long while now (30+ times) and it still doesnt give me the option to gift him the nectar

honest fiber
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I thought I still had it

twin lantern
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i'm in the zone past elysium, is it a good idea to go to the other rooms if you already have the head?

dusty vault
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Nah

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You won't get another fountain

honest fiber
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But died regardless

dusty vault
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So you are prob ending with an hp loss

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Also rip

honest fiber
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I thought I still had a death defied

dusty vault
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If yes check he doesn't have a heart filled already (and thus the keepsake already obtained)

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If no to either of them just do another run and see if you can gift now

keen basin
dusty vault
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Ah ig you don't have it yet

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Keep talking with Achilles and he'll give it to you soon™

keen basin
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the only character that has a heart is skelly who ig ot my first keepsake from

dusty vault
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Ight then ig just do another run and try gifting cerb again

twin lantern
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nooo i died to ||dad||

dusty vault
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Damn

twin lantern
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hype run too, hunting blades and everything

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...does fishing do anything?

sinful hollow
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gems,keys and nectar

twin lantern
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oh sweet

sinful hollow
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darkness,ambrosa and titan blood can be recieved if ur fish is rare

dusty vault
sinful hollow
honest fiber
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Ok next run

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Hope this goes well

twin lantern
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does rare crop only affect the boons you have when you pick rare crop?

dusty vault
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yeah

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if you take epic crop and you only have 1 boon that can be affected that's it

twin lantern
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oh well

honest fiber
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You ever start a run, see the powers you get, then just think

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"Yeah I'm not even getting past Meg am I?"

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My god (heh) I got the short end of the stick

twin lantern
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lets go i beat ||dad|| for the first time ever

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and all it took was to stack an insane amount of zeus boons

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with a legendary

sinful hollow
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zeus boons are good

sinful hollow
honest fiber
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Why is Meg so much more difficult than Bone Hydra

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I almost always die to Meg and never to Hydra

stoic raven
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oh boy you have yet to experience true pain(blue hydra with melee)

sinful hollow
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i dont have that much patience to dodge and attack

honest fiber
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I was like one hit away

sinful hollow
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It will be so much more easy with time keep going

stoic raven
honest fiber
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Hypnos PLEASE stop simping for Meg I beg you

stoic raven
sinful hollow
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i kill him easily with my patience on but when i feel like meh its opposite

sinful hollow
honest fiber
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She's ok I guess

sinful hollow
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mm dunno

honest fiber
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Finally beat Meg without dying

sinful hollow
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Good job!

honest fiber
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AAAA

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I have to fight Bone Hydra at 50 HP

sweet brook
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just dont die

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channel your inner hypnos

honest fiber
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I was saving that Death Defied...

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Ugh

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I couldn't burst down the extra heads fast enough

sinful hollow
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its gonna be okay

honest fiber
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Too late

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Already lost my death defied to it

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I was saving that for gladiators...

sinful hollow
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believe me at first its gonna be like that

dusty vault
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check charon wells for kiss of styx

honest fiber
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Did

sinful hollow
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after u beat the last bost the game gets easy for u

honest fiber
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It wasn't there sadly

dusty vault
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just gotta check any that you find during ely

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also if you have athena there's 2 boons of her to regain DDs

sinful hollow
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and buy 3 death from the mirror at the beginning

honest fiber
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I'm getting the WORST hammer luck my god

sinful hollow
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Oh btw u know that u can give 1 key to the mirror in your bedroom

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and get all the darkness

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and do upgrades again

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if u dont have darkness to buy 3 death defied

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Oh and upgrade privileged status too

stoic raven
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pstatus is build based

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and also depends on if you hate tart/asph or not

broken girder
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Just try to get pat

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He’ll get back your dd

stoic raven
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patty stubborn defiance zagluv

honest fiber
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DAMMIT

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I have 199 gold

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And take a guess what's in the shop

broken girder
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Oh rip

honest fiber
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Died immediately after

stoic raven
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you can purge

honest fiber
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No option to

stoic raven
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rip

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just take one of the obols on screen

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🧠

honest fiber
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The minotaur mini boss is harder than the gladiators for me at least

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He has SO MUCH HP

sinful hollow
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idk he is so easy for me tho

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other one has shield its kinda annoying

honest fiber
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So I either dash attack, causing me to get hit more often

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Or do like no damage

sinful hollow
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there are times u have to hit the boss and not so

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with time u gonna see what i mean

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like how he does a heavy attack and it takes him time to recover and attack again

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in that time u have to hit him

stoic raven
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asterius' general pattern is:
swingx2
jumpx1-3
pause
repeat/charge

somber frigate
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Ez

twin lantern
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what casts am i looking for on hera bow

restive portal
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Aphrodite mostly.

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Maybe Poseidon if you're happy to hunt down sea storm.

dusty vault
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Crush shot first phalanx second

restive portal
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Oh yeah, that's another good one.

twin lantern
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what makes crush shot so good?

dusty vault
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High dmg, decent AoE

restive portal
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If you aim slightly off to a wall it hits but won't lodge.

dusty vault
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Trippy shot is the only one with higher dmg but that's its own can of worms

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Also yeah wall bug can be good if practiced

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Crush shot shines on hera also bc it gets rid of the short range

restive portal
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Also, if you weren't aware, the casts stack, so you can leave Tartarus doing about 1k damage with 3 or 4 stacked casts pretty easily.

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If you only have 1 or 2 levels on Hera you might be better with Stygian soul and looking for a 2nd from chaos though.

dusty vault
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Eh crush shot should kill most stuff fine

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For bosses pray for quick reload and chill

restive portal
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Quick reload is the other mitigation.

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Either way, low level Hera is a bit slow.

twin lantern
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is hera supposed to be high skill or something

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i burnt 3 defiances in tartarus

restive portal
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It's slightly higher skill, but not like hidden fists or anything.

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Good idea to have a plan for something on special so you can keep doing some damage while the casts are out of action. Artemis and Hunter's Mark works well.

sweet brook
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And learn break points

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Like 2 casts kill x enemy and so on

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But it's very strong, esp since you can one shot enemies very early on without much effort

stoic raven
sweet brook
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almost useless??

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that's like

stoic raven
sweet brook
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the heart of hera tech

sweet brook
stoic raven
sweet brook
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it's just basic cast weapon use

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i dont need to speedrun on hera to not load all 3 casts at once to kill a tart lout

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i learn that "hey i only need 2" after the first time and do that

stoic raven
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well either way i load 3 casts for a ||cloned unarmored numbskull||

sweet brook
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wall bugging on hera is def not important atm but by no means is it "almsot useless"

stoic raven
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my though process is that you can just undershoot
oh i just realized 🤦‍♂️

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for some reason i thought undershooting wouldnt lodge

sweet brook
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i mean it wont

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but also it's surprisingly unreliable

honest fiber
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Elysian is driving me insane with the sheer amount of traps

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I can handle the traps OR the enemies

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But not both at the same time

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How am I supposed to deal with them?

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Anything in specific or just playing better

stoic raven
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just be out of the way of the traps

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the bombs have a LOT of time before they explode, , the arrows cover really little area, and the spears are super small

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tldr dont be near bombs and arrow line of sight

honest fiber
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By themselves, they're perfectly manageable

stoic raven
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try to just stay out of their way overall

lofty urchin
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if you were to split the weapons between fast low damage hits and slow high damage hits which weapons would be where

honest fiber
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They're EVERYWHERE

finite olive
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honestly for me if i think the bombs are going to be an issue i just break them while the enemies are spawning

stoic raven
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i think they give a tiny telegraph before exploding

honest fiber
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Every single time

stoic raven
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those have barely any range, just dash away from them or through them

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theres really only 1.5 rooms where you cant quite stay out of their range

honest fiber
somber frigate
stoic raven
somber frigate
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I found on controller the default controls are unbearable

sweet brook
finite olive
somber frigate
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I ended up swapping special and cast

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oh controller is good normally

sweet brook
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and reload iirc

somber frigate
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It’s just on hera I can’t handle loading casts with the default binds

sweet brook
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everyone rebinds it

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but like everything else, controller is fine

finite olive
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what is it default lmao

sweet brook
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i believe the joystick is default cast

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or at least reload

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it might be like Y?

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the top button for cast

finite olive
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oh that’s weird

sweet brook
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it's pretty inconvenient for cast based weapons when the dash is the bottom one and the attack is the left one

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tbf on normal aspects, the cast being there isn't an issue since you barely use it

honest fiber
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Is the bow any good

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It seems kinda clunky to use

sweet brook
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make sure you dash strike

stoic raven
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its very good with flurry shot or non chiron aspects

sweet brook
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it charges a lot faster

dusty vault
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Default is right face button for casts

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R3 for reload

finite olive
finite olive
sweet brook
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the bow is very good and safe

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as long as you dash strike lmao

dusty vault
somber frigate
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Dash is bottom button

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Attack is left

stoic raven
somber frigate
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Cast is right

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Kinda impossible to dstrike and load a cast

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But special is the top button

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At least for switch

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so I swapped special and cast

finite olive
somber frigate
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Like

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The direction son

finite olive
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oh mb i mean like

somber frigate
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. Special
Attack. Cast
Dash

finite olive
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i get it but those binds are weird

somber frigate
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That’s the default

sweet brook
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attack on the left button isn't bad

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you can put your thumb over the dash and attack

stoic raven
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damn default is worse than my cursed keybinds

finite olive
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idk i would prefer it as rigjt or one of the triggers

somber frigate
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But dashing into an attack makes it impossible to cast

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with default settings

sweet brook
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i mean you can always rebind

finite olive
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yeah

somber frigate
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exactly

sweet brook
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a lot of players keep the dash and attack default

somber frigate
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Which is why I’m recommending it

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. Cast
Attack. Special
. Dash

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Is my bind

finite olive
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do y’all prefer kbm or controller

somber frigate
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Switch gaming

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Controller exclusively for Hades

stoic raven
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nvm

somber frigate
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nah

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. Has to ve done

finite olive
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i js have my pro controller connected to my pc rn cs i was playing detriot become human and celeste

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so i was gonna try it out

sweet brook
finite olive
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fair

somber frigate
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I like controller but I feel like the rebind is necessary for Hera

sweet brook
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i do want to get better at controller tho but i can never find the right keybinds that work for me

somber frigate
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that’s the only time it is

finite olive
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yk i didn’t even know u could load multiple casts for hera 😭

stoic raven
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i like kbm unless im doing shield

finite olive
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for a while

finite olive
honest fiber
final dune
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i cantbplay controlle

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its so hard

somber frigate
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Skill issue

honest fiber
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Skill issue

vivid thistle
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how do i use titan blood

lilac kestrel
vivid thistle
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so you cant actually use it until you have all weapons?

dusty vault
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Exactly

vivid thistle
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ok well i think i have 2 left to get

lilac kestrel
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Whats yall keybinds?

outer flint
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Dash on zr and interact on down d-pad

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Then rest is default

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Idk if dash is already on zr

dusty vault
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Normally on bottom face button

outer flint
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I have call on bottom face button

dusty vault
outer flint
dusty vault
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Rest default but for cast loading weapons I use Zl for cast and swap it with special

dusty vault
outer flint
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Bruh

cedar delta
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I have default binds but with Cast on a back/grip button!

outer flint
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Ik what u mean I think

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The locked things in the keepsake menu

lilac kestrel
vivid thistle
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ngl using the sword and Poseidon dash plus Athena special i get through lots of stuff pretty easily

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using that combo i got all the way to the boss of elysium on my first time ever reaching there

lilac kestrel
vivid thistle
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i wanna guess i have ~8/9 hours

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and have gotten to elysium once and died to the boss

honest fiber
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Elysium's boss seems to be the first hurdle

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I've ALMOST beat it

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Within two attacks

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But still died

stoic raven
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like my first major one was learning to not try and iframe attacks

honest fiber
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I just dash and hope

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Or get Athena dash

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My beloved

naive plank
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@honest fiber what do u use?

honest fiber
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Eternal Spear with Mostly Poseidon Boons

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With an occasional Hermes (Additional Dashes for more dash attacks) or Athena boon (Deflect on Attack or Dash)

naive plank
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It's been a min but iirc spear is hammer reliant

honest fiber
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Very

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If you get the +3 Hits you do bonkers damage

naive plank
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What spear u using exactly

honest fiber
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It's just called the Eternal Spear

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You'll unlock it eventually

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If you haven't already

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With the keys

cedar delta
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Ah, that's the good ol' base form of the spear

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Zed's just using the base spear, Majin

honest fiber
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I have absolutely no idea wtf is going on

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I'm still new lol

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Like REALLY new

somber frigate
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That last one should be spoilered

honest fiber
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I have no context

cedar delta
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Hi, still new. I'm Packrat!

honest fiber
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So it doesn't matter

somber frigate
honest fiber
somber frigate
honest fiber
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Oh

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Ok

naive plank
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Mb I forget how to spoil

honest fiber
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Now I'm curious but I won't look it up

somber frigate
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||

naive plank
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I wouldnt

honest fiber
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|| LIKE THIS ||

somber frigate
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On either side of your text

somber frigate
sinful hollow
somber frigate
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eh

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25-35 depends on the player

sinful hollow
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If u explore and keep runs it can take that much

honest fiber
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Ok fighting the Elysium boss again

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I can win this

somber frigate
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I’ve seen people with a lot more time w/ absolutely no clue

sinful hollow
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not everybody is speedrunner from the beginning

sinful hollow
naive plank
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I'd say 50 hrs is where I popped off after you beat u know who it gets so easy that you get ending

sinful hollow
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interesting

honest fiber
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The gladiators got me again...

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Ugh

naive plank
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It was my first rogue

sinful hollow
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On my 35 hours i didnt get a summon tho but i won final boss

naive plank
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Ur first Rouge?

sinful hollow
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I play similiar games

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hk isnt that much of rouge like but its def hard too

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hit,dodge kind of

naive plank
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Yea see my buddy put me on hades never played the genre

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Hk?

sinful hollow
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Hollow knight

naive plank
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Yea see I played it but don't consider it either that's y hades my first

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Dead cells my second

sinful hollow
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what can i say i love these types of games lol

naive plank
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Same that's why I got dead cells but dam

honest fiber
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Ares Athena Duo Room

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Sounds like hell

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I'm not doing that

sinful hollow
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yeah they get angry

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i would chose ares over athena tho

honest fiber
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Athena when angry is SO hard to win

naive plank
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I'd disagree Athena

honest fiber
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I've actually lost runs to it

sinful hollow
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ares gets really angry lol

honest fiber
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Why wouldn't he

sinful hollow
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Dont cross ZEUS

honest fiber
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I'd rather fight him then Athena again tbh

sinful hollow
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when his ego hurts its not nice : D

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and arthemis

naive plank
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Sara what's ur favorite weapon g?

somber frigate
sinful hollow
naive plank
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How many hrs?

sinful hollow
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depends on my mood

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80hr

somber frigate
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Like 405 zagpls

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Last I checked

naive plank
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I'd say my favorite is gauntlets or spear

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@somber frigate what's urs

sinful hollow
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im more confident with my sword i can say

somber frigate
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I find myself with bow and shield

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But I like to guarantee that I mix in playing with every weapon

naive plank
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Man I got 6 and still can't with bow

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Shield I mess with

somber frigate
sinful hollow
#

i play with shield when im on my 2 hr sleep

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i get distracted too much

sinful hollow
somber frigate
#

See zag bow just clicks

naive plank
#

😆 I like shield one day I fell sleep playing kid not

sinful hollow
#

zeus and bow are like magic <333

naive plank
#

I'm trying with hera but nah

somber frigate
#

Oh I’ve been using hera recently

sinful hollow
#

What was that

somber frigate
#

A lot more

sinful hollow
#

choron?

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the aspect of bow

#

i cant recall

#

i like that a lot

somber frigate
#

But I’m on controller and I have to rebind and relearn

sinful hollow
#

i combine it with zeus boons

somber frigate
#

Chiron doesn’t actually benefit as much from those

#

Do I have to explain zeus cooldowns or

sinful hollow
#

idk i like it tho

naive plank
#

|| speaking of Charon omg||

honest fiber
#

Athena's call is my favorite

somber frigate
#

Like lightning bolts will only prok 1/ 0.2s

#

so you only get 1–2, maybe 3 per volley

naive plank
#

@honest fiber Athena not bad I like zues

somber frigate
#

Athena call isn’t even on my radar because at this point I’m usually using call for dps and so only look at zeus and dio

sinful hollow
somber frigate
#

when I ran higher [redacted], I did find myself taking athena and aphro a little more because I literally just wasn’t living though

naive plank
#

@sinful hollow yea pop hom lot times just melts same with arti

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Idk imo it don't matter who u got as ur special @somber frigate

somber frigate
#

I mean

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I’m typically either pushing speed or ||heat||

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And when I pushing speed I want dps

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So I take zeus and dio

naive plank
#

What's your top time?

somber frigate
#

And if I’m pushing the other, I either want dps or I’m looking defensively at like aphro and athena

#

Sub10 embarassingky

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I never got it lower

honest fiber
#

The ones with shields have ended like 3 of my runs

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Because I simply don't realize they're actually there

somber frigate
#

I have the a good chunk of the knowledge but kinda lack the mechanical skill to push it lower

naive plank
#

I think my top 15 I'm trying so hard 🥲

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But I can't cuz the spawn so u good

somber frigate
#

I mean my first 100 or so hours were played when I was absolutely trash at all video games and had 0 contact with the Hades community

sweet brook
somber frigate
#

Coming back later and getting in touch w/ the Hades discord community made it so much better

honest fiber
sweet brook
#

fun fact, they always spawn facing the right

honest fiber
#

I keep forgetting they just

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Don't die

sweet brook
#

so stand to the left of spawn circles and you can get free damage on them early

somber frigate
naive plank
#

@sweet brook yo how u doin g been min

sweet brook
#

yeah it's been a bit

#

i haven't played hades in a few weeks at this point

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got boring trying to do 50 runs in a row without resets lmao

naive plank
#

Man I randomly was like I wana play did that challenge didn't so good

sweet brook
#

lmfao happens

somber frigate
honest fiber
#

Ugh, even trying to get to the Elysium boss is hellish (heh)

sweet brook
naive plank
#

Still trying tho man cuz I was playing dead cells said let's play hades

honest fiber
sweet brook
#

i suck at that game

#

it's so fun

honest fiber
#

I have both

#

Both very good but very different

sweet brook
naive plank
#

Same man I can't do anything really in it

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@honest fiber imo dead cells harder

honest fiber
#

I haven't played enough hades

naive plank
#

@honest fiber u got to elysium right?

somber frigate
#

I have dead cells on mobile cuz I needed a roguelite for that and got into it and then fell out of it

sweet brook
#

dead cells bosses are a lot less forgiving than in hades even tho you have healing potions

raw coral
#

Hades is as hard as you want it to be

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Beating 5BC does not compare imo

sweet brook
#

bro i haven't even cleared 1 bc lmfao

somber frigate
#

I think I have

sweet brook
#

i need to learn the final boss timings better tbf but like getting there takes forever

somber frigate
#

But I haven’t cleared BC2 fs

honest fiber
naive plank
#

I'm over here Tryna speed run dead cells cux the pace and it screws me

somber frigate
#

I need to learn how to properly use weapons and not die for dead cells

honest fiber
#

I have ONE weapon I'm good at using in dead cells

naive plank
#

@somber frigate same

somber frigate
#

I had the pace for no blood cells

naive plank
#

@honest fiber what one

raw coral
#

You certainly cannot zug zug it like in Hades

sweet brook
somber frigate
#

But now at higher bc

honest fiber
somber frigate
honest fiber
#

CRIT CRIT CRIT CRIT CRIT CRIT

somber frigate
#

Pretty sure zug zuging is a valid Hades strat

sweet brook
#

doesn't that have like

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no boss damage since you dont get a speed boost during that time

naive plank
#

Whats the pan in dead cells?@honest fiber

sweet brook
#

amazing

honest fiber
#

It sucks

sweet brook
#

fair enough

honest fiber
#

But it's so fun

somber frigate
#

Uh

sweet brook
#

lmao fair

honest fiber
somber frigate
#

Just go faster

#

Not that hard

sweet brook
#

gonne be completely honest

#

dead cells is a whole lot more difficult than hades

naive plank
#

Fr

sweet brook
#

also considering the length of a dead cells run

raw coral
#

How many hours do you have in each?

naive plank
#

Went in thinking I was guna be decent I auck man

raw coral
#

I'm p sure that is playing a big factor rn

honest fiber
somber frigate
#

on average

naive plank
#

I got over 6 in hades maybe 1 in dead cells

#

@somber frigate bruh how u beating it in 5?

sweet brook
# raw coral How many hours do you have in each?

i'm at 40 for dead cells and only have like 3 or 4 clears (i could've had more but i was trying to challenge myself on a different boss but whatever)
by the time i got my first few clears in hades, i was like less than 20, might've gotten to credits by 40

honest fiber
#

Dead Cells runs are SO long

sweet brook
#

i currently have 500 in hades atm tho

#

my first clear in dead cells took like 5 hours or something tho

#

maybe less

somber frigate
sweet brook
#

but also like ~300 hours of hades does help

naive plank
#

@sweet brook dude 5hr???

sweet brook
#

my first dead cells clear was on my like

#

3rd run

naive plank
#

Wtf

sweet brook
#

less than 5 at least

somber frigate
#

Oh word

honest fiber
#

I haven't cleared

naive plank
#

That's insane

honest fiber
#

I have 47 runs

naive plank
#

Banana a g fr

honest fiber
#

What are you on @sweet brook

#

Can I have some

sweet brook
#

tbf i haven't played a lot since, i've recently got back into it and i'm like dying to the final boss a lot lmao

somber frigate
#

My first win in dead cells was definitely less than an hour thougg so I think I’m winning

sweet brook
#

so true bestie

#

tbf dead cells is more forgiving for like early clears since there's a lot less meta game upgrades that matter

naive plank
#

Who got vid?

honest fiber
#

@sweet brook

sweet brook
#

from the start

#

before you leave

naive plank
#

@sweet brook u got YouTube bro?

sweet brook
#

that's when you decide what build path you're gonna have

sweet brook
honest fiber
#

I don't always get what I want

sweet brook
#

i just record my runs and throw it up there so i dont clog my device storage

sweet brook
honest fiber
naive plank
#

@sweet brook send link tho fr

somber frigate
# sweet brook so true bestie

Or in Hades terms, I mean yeah your first win may have been fresh file run but mine took <30 minutes, so I’m better. shadethumbsup

sweet brook
sweet brook
naive plank
#

Who's better u or the one dude I used to talk to that u guys helped

#

Me

sweet brook
#

who's the other dude lmao

honest fiber
naive plank
#

Idr he speed runner

sweet brook
#

vetbaitednv?

naive plank
#

Nah

sweet brook
somber frigate
#

Who’s better, me or like, the person that made the chaos copy pasta

sweet brook
somber frigate
#

that’s the real question

naive plank
#

.an isk ima lil drunk tbh he in hades discord

somber frigate
#

Packrat?

sweet brook
#

in the speedrunning server i'm definitely at like the lower end of consistent/good players

honest fiber
naive plank
#

One sec i figure out

sweet brook
#

if it's packrat then i'm better than him because like a few others and i kinda taught him everything he knows lmao
and he's still like learning

somber frigate
sweet brook
#

he's working his way through tho

somber frigate
#

They’re easily the most importanr

sweet brook
#

yeah try to get the olympian gods and eurydice's asap

somber frigate
sweet brook
#

true

honest fiber
#

Well ok starting with Poseidon

#

What tips do you have

sweet brook
#

take his dash

#

big damage

#

big aoe

#

good pom scaling

honest fiber
#

Yup

sweet brook
#

great to start off on for a lot of aspects

honest fiber
#

I've seen it

#

Dammit I didn't get it

sweet brook
#

unfortunate

honest fiber
sweet brook
#

what aspect are you using

naive plank
#

@sweet brook nah he brown bro atleast that was his pic

honest fiber
sweet brook
#

weapon

naive plank
#

Maybe was chick?

sweet brook
#

somenoobdying?

#

i think he has an anime girl pfp lmao

#

or could be MiKE

honest fiber
sweet brook
#

also anime girl pfp

naive plank
#

Nah it was a Hispanic dude as pfp

sinful hollow
#

what i missed

sweet brook
#

just take the cast tbh

naive plank
#

N he had yourbe with cool music he was pc player also

sweet brook
sweet brook
honest fiber
#

After dash

#

What else

naive plank
#

Nah idr name

sweet brook
#

i'm pretty sure she's one of few who uses music in vods

sweet brook
naive plank
#

She got other names?

sweet brook
#

jazz

honest fiber
naive plank
#

@sweet brook yea that's it

#

Jazz

sweet brook
# honest fiber Yes?

razor shoals and breaking wave, but that's kinda less of a priority than a good attack boon
if you happen to run into posiedon then look for those

sinful hollow
sinful hollow
#

im confused

sweet brook
#

good attack boon depends on the hammer you get kinda
you wanna look for flurry jab or serrated point

sweet brook
sinful hollow
#

OHHHHHHH

#

okay

sweet brook
#

and couldn't remember the name lmao

naive plank
#

@sinful hollow was asking Bananas who was better him or her

sweet brook
#

she's 100% better

#

by like

#

a long shot

#

she has double the hours i have and started like a year later or something lmao

#

more than double

#

and has a sub5

sinful hollow
#

i have no clue

somber frigate
#

Idk I’m pretty sure I’m a faster runner than Jazz

honest fiber
#

Positive Outlook my beloved

sweet brook
#

which is like, 1 of 15 runs ever done

honest fiber
naive plank
#

@sinful hollow dead cells so hard 😆

somber frigate
honest fiber
naive plank
#

@somber frigate got YouTube g?

sweet brook
#

the tldr of the dead cells detour is that it's harder than hades but i somehow managed to beat it in less than 5 attempts which apparently isn't normal

somber frigate
#

Positive outlook on SD runns zagpls

#

Nah I don’t got youtube clips

#

Mainly because I am not infact a hades speedrunner

naive plank
#

Jw cuz if u better I gotta learn g

somber frigate
#

And I also am not posting recordings of my switch gameplay

sinful hollow
naive plank
#

Jazz nasty af fr

#

@sinful hollow yea ino it def is

somber frigate
#

See any other runner is a better example than I am I think

#

Better mechanics

#

Better habits

sinful hollow
sweet brook
#

if you want to learn from better runs, speedrun.com has a ton of good runners

naive plank
#

@sweet brook my main thing is u an jazz said stand in certain spit but that varies

somber frigate
#

?

sweet brook
#

stand where for what

naive plank
#

Spawns

sweet brook
#

oh the shields?

#

i'm like 95% sure shields spawn facing to the right, so you want to stand on the left

honest fiber
#

I misread the chaos boon

sweet brook
#

happens

honest fiber
#

It's 5 lost on each attack

#

On spear

#

Take a guess how bad that went

naive plank
#

Nah like stand on certain side stage ig makes worlds dif

honest fiber
#

(I lost all three death defied charges then died)

sweet brook
#

lmao happens

sweet brook
#

very vague lmao

#

do you mean like witch's circle

naive plank
#

@sweet brook nah for speed run standing certain parts of stage helps spawns but I can't remember every stage

sweet brook
#

oh spawn manipulation

#

there's a whole ass guide for that

naive plank
#

Yea like I can't remember all that lol

sweet brook
#

if what jazz and i say are different, just look at the guide lmao

#

if you can't remember them all just literally stand in a corner

naive plank
#

Nah u both said similar

sweet brook
#

standing in a corner is better than standing in the middle of nowhere

sinful hollow
naive plank
#

I think that y I'm at 15 tbh

#

@sinful hollow it's definitely different but the pan is awesome dude some the animation just nasty

somber frigate
sweet brook
#

it's a mix of both

somber frigate
#

So enemies spawn closer

sweet brook
#

it depends on the situation

somber frigate
#

But is it more intricste then that?

sinful hollow
sweet brook
#

you ideally try to do both but sometimes you just cant

sinful hollow
#

maybe art style can pull it off

naive plank
#

@sinful hollow I got u it's great game just hard af

#

@sweet brook @somber frigate that's pr9b like what am I supposed to do for sub 10 😆

somber frigate
#

I did 0 spawn manips for sub10

sweet brook
#

you dont necessarily have to spawn manip for sub10

naive plank
#

I 100 it but I wana speed blitz game

sweet brook
#

it's more of like

#

enemy grouping and good builds

#

that's the big core of sub10

somber frigate
#

Nah the core of sub10 is just maxing out your attack damage on zagbow fs

sweet brook
#

up to like sub8 or 9, it's less of rng and more of mechanical skill

#

good rng is good and bad rng happens, but bad rng can def still sub10

sweet brook
#

i've had like a no midshop tart and no midshop and no skip ely still sub10, might've been sub9

naive plank
#

My problem I can't group everytime

sweet brook
#

then do it more lmao

naive plank
#

That's what I'm saying g they spread to much

#

My dash atk only gets so fast

sinful hollow
naive plank
#

What's pantheon

somber frigate
#

Hollow knight pantheon

#

from the game of the same name

naive plank
#

Ah I got u I never heard the last bit lol

final dune
#

were u asking for me

sinful hollow
#

till the end

#

thats pantheon

sweet brook
#

and they were asking who was better between you and me lmao

#

which is clearly you

final dune
#

i remember them

#

very nice

#

i liked the interactions

#

i think activity for them peaked around august

naive plank
#

@final dune yea this the pic I meant @sweet brook

final dune
#

thats paul wall

naive plank
#

Banana?

sinful hollow
#

Banan

final dune
#

he made the peoples champ in 2004

#

nice houston based album

#

2005 sorry

naive plank
#

But nah I asked banana I didn't remember just remember Hispanic pic speed runner n YouTube lol

final dune
#

paul wall is white lol

naive plank
#

I didn't zoom on ur pic g lol

#

I thought u was ligh Hispanic

#

😆 🤣

final dune
#

i am also white but i am not a large bearded man with expensive grills

naive plank
#

Ah I thought u was brown with grills lol

somber frigate
#

aw

#

my mental image of you is ruined

lilac kestrel
#

I feel like when I select a god’s boon it keeps showing up more than other gods. Are the chances the same? Or is it true?

somber frigate
#

You just only have so many god’s you will see after picking up more gods

#

Because once you have 4 gods boons you’ll stop seeing more

#

And once they’re in the pool they’re kinda always weighted a bit better… I think

lilac kestrel
#

okay thanks

lofty urchin
#

when is it a good time to take ||chaos||

final dune
sinful hollow
#

it has good offers

somber frigate
lilac kestrel
#

Is it possible to die from taking that?

sinful hollow
#

if u cant take it,like ur health is not capable of taking it

#

doesnt let u go in

restive portal
#

I've definitely suffered from too much chaos having got 3 curses in effect at the same time.

sinful hollow
#

One time I mistook the curse effect like an idiot

#

It was the attack curse effect

#

😭 had to play with my special and cast till the effect goes off

lilac kestrel
honest fiber
#

What's "armor"

#

Is it something all enemies have

#

Or is it a specific trait

#

OHHH

#

IT'S THE YELLOW STUFF

sinful hollow
#

extra health

sinful hollow
#

imma look at it wait

honest fiber
#

WOOOOOOOOO

#

NEXT AREA

#

Beat Elysium, no death defied

sinful hollow
#

Goood job

honest fiber
sinful hollow
honest fiber
#

WHY DOES IT DO THAT MUCH DAMAGE

honest fiber
sinful hollow
#

oh boss room?

honest fiber
#

I just left Elysium

#

Temple of Styx

sinful hollow
#

yeah

#

i bet that was the spitter guys or the vermit rats

#

vermin or idk

#

what they called

honest fiber
#

It did half my HP almost instantly

sinful hollow
#

there are little ponds in the room u can go and heal there

#

which one killed u

#

the rat or other guy?

honest fiber
#

Rats

sinful hollow
#

Oh rat

#

u can spam rats if they re alone in the room

restive portal
#

Tony!

#

Poison takes a second or so to do any damage. In the small rooms you should mostly be able to get to the pool in that time (assuming you noted where it is on the way in).

sinful hollow
#

little grey/green looking mini pool

#

wait i will give the name of it

honest fiber
#

See them

sinful hollow
#

u can write ''healing pool in styx hades'' to the google and see the pool pic in photos section

#

um thats spoiler

#

and yes.

honest fiber
#

I would have won if I didn't lose my death defied to poison

#

Damn

sinful hollow
#

its okay

#

u gonna repeat that a lot lol

honest fiber
#

By the way that was my first run with fists

#

So that's probably the weapon I should go with

sinful hollow
#

depends

#

could be the build was really good

honest fiber
#

Not particularly

#

It was my normal build

#

But with a little more Aphrodite

sinful hollow
#

Oh good then

#

10th fight with the last boss is free

honest fiber
#

No way there's just a gun

honest fiber
sinful hollow
#

Yeah there is lol

honest fiber
#

Wasn't there a thing I get for unlocking all weapons

sinful hollow
#

hmm i guess u get titan blood from reaching to final boss with every hidden aspects of weapons

honest fiber
#

I was talking about the hidden thing

#

I just have base weapons

sinful hollow
#

i dont recall

#

been a while

#

u get reward for revealing every hidden aspect of weapon

#

6 dia i think?

#

but idk if u get something unlocking every weapon,maybe someone who remembers can tell