Oh okay nice
#h1-for-new-players
urban sequoia
urban sequoia
So Athena basically gave me a powerup whose description didn't really feel like a useful one but it ended up actually giving me an extra death defiance, now I'm in the game win screen where you see the information about your run and I'd wish to know which one or those abilities' was, I can't read their description though
Does anyone know how that skill is called and what the description says it does?
dusty vault
Deathless/last stand
urban sequoia
I think I've spotted the icon but I can't read it
dusty vault
One gives extra health when the dd procs and the other gives extra invulnerability on proc
upbeat spoke
she has two
dusty vault
Also you can just scroll o your boon menu pretty sure
urban sequoia
One gives extra health when the dd procs and the other gives extra invulnerabili...
And both basically give you an extra DD?
dusty vault
Or maybe you need to unpin one of the 5 boons
upbeat spoke
they give you a DD but only if you already spent one
dusty vault
They recover an used one
upbeat spoke
you have to have an empty DD slot
urban sequoia
I can't send screenshots but basically only 5 are highlighted and I can't see the others' description
urban sequoia
they give you a DD but only if you already spent one
Oh I see I was missing one indeed because I died
That's amazing
Oh okay anyway I can just see their description from the touch pad menu, outside of the winscreen
Mb
Deathless stand I think it is
"Death Defiance makes you impervious longer"
Yeah the description doesn't tell you what it actually does, at all
urban sequoia
Yeah
urban sequoia
Has this game ever had any patches?
I know it was in constant development while in early access so it was frequently updated, what about after launch?
sweet brook
after launch im pretty sure there haven't been any updates
tight flower
What about the patch notes channel ?
terse grotto
there's like a dozen post launch patches you can find on steam by just scrolling the game's page
raw coral
Has this game ever had any patches?
If you mean content patches, no, but it did receive some fixes and balances after 1.00
You can easily check in #hades-patch-notes for what was changed post-launch
urban sequoia
Yeah I figured after a while, thank you
Is it a random thing, or is there a way to influence what you get from boons besides keepsakes?
Since I switched to the power up on the mirror that increases the chance of getting more boons instead of the one that gives me higher rarity booms
frigid meadow
I dont understand what is the point of fated authority
final dune
you have a lot of influence on the boons you get but a lot of it is very nuanced and not taught in game
urban sequoia
And I stg I've only got trash since then, completely useless powerups all together, never happened before
final dune
but that is not how it works
dark foresight is like 2000x better
and does not affect which boons you are offered
urban sequoia
What's dark foresight?
frigid meadow
you have a lot of influence on the boons you get but a lot of it is very nuanced...
are you responding to me?
final dune
no
final dune
What's dark foresight?
the mirror option that increases the chance of getting boons or other gold laurel rewards
final dune
I dont understand what is the point of fated authority
it sucks
use persuasion instead
final dune
Mh then I guess it's just chance
most likely you don't yet have a grasp on builds
it's very hard to go for long without getting anything
frigid meadow
yeah but you get it from a work order
urban sequoia
It's weird though I have not got a single boon to increase my damage in the run I just did, and also this happened on some runs I did yesterday, it's like a ton of bad luck happened all of a sudden
final dune
what weapon
urban sequoia
most likely you don't yet have a grasp on builds
Well I like stuff that has high damage so if I don't see anything that increases it I'm not happy with the build lol
Yesterday it was sword
Today it was bow
urban sequoia
I only played one run today
final dune
or poseidon
urban sequoia
No no Aphrodite or Artemis today
final dune
perhaps zeus
urban sequoia
No poseidon
Just Zeus, Athena once (I picked up divine dash) Dionysus, Ares and Hermes
final dune
so if we were offered zeus we might have seen electric shot or zeus's aid
urban sequoia
But it was weird, I never got the stuff that increases dsmage
urban sequoia
Divine strike from Athena I saw but I picked divine dash
final dune
the main issue is just not starting with a god keepsake
if you had started with for instance poseidon and taken dash that's guaranteed damage right there
or artemis/aphrodite attack
urban sequoia
I am starting with random keepsakes because I'm trying to level them up
And I had Cerberus keepsake now
It's also weird because I love Zeus he always gives me damage + lighting stuff
But he never did lol
I got to a point where I chose Hermes over Zeus once because Zeus simply stopped giving me anything good
And Hermes ended up not giving me a third dash, which is the only thing I like from Hermes
final dune
from hermes were you offered hyper sprint
urban sequoia
No
I don't remember what he offered
I only remember no third dash
I guess with bow you also get less damage stuff?
I remember I got soo much stuff that increases damage with rail gun
Maybe one single damage keepsake would've been enough, and I should've picked Athena's damage
limpid cairn
if u lock urself into flat dmg gods you'll see less dmg modifier boons
if that's what u mean
dusty vault
To your boy charon
frigid meadow
but im not buying anything or what
dusty vault
All money belongs to him so you drop it on death
astral jasper
Hello I just bought hades and I hope it's alright for me to be here I have no clue what I am doing but it looks cool
cedar delta
Ey, you found the perfect channel instead of waddling into #h1-discussion
astral jasper
Ey, you found the perfect channel instead of waddling into <#520429929721233464>
Idk it said hades for new players and considering i just downloaded it seemed like the right one
Just had my first death
cedar delta
You'd be surprised how many new players go into the regular discussion channel!
astral jasper
Onto round 2 ig
sour quiver
Good luck!
sweet brook
Dying is the fun part
sour quiver
Wonder who managed their first try
astral jasper
I found a dog collar
sour quiver
Nice
astral jasper
Well that didn't last long I died again
tidal solstice
Hi everyone! I am literally just now turning hades on for the first time
im very excited
cedar delta
Enjoy the menu screen musics!
tidal solstice
its going so hard
astral jasper
Hi everyone! I am literally just now turning hades on for the first time
I've played 2 rounds so far we are both new
cedar delta
Yah
astral jasper
Idk I'm on switch but I'd assume so
cedar delta
Steam Input handles like everything
You can even remap everything via Steam Input. It's pretty great
tidal solstice
You can even remap everything via Steam Input. It's pretty great
oh ok, im pretty new to pc gaming in general so im still kinda figure things out
frigid meadow
does thanatos keepstake stack forever?
dusty vault
does thanatos keepstake stack forever?
For as many combats you can get the proc on
frigid meadow
does the buff go away after getting hit?
astral jasper
I lost that very fast
frigid meadow
I lost that very fast
try playing the bosses slowly
dusty vault
does the buff go away after getting hit?
Getting hit only makes it so you don't gain the boost that room
cedar delta
It does not go away upon being hit, but getting hit does disqualify you for a boost to the bonus for that room
dusty vault
Removing the keepsake though will lose your bonus entirely
frigid meadow
does it stack forever?
dusty vault
Nice time loop
sweet brook
does it stack forever?
technically speaking yes, but there's only so many encounters in a run lmao
sweet brook
not a great keepsake but it exists for the achievement i guess lmao
frigid meadow
sounds broken iimo
cedar delta
It's actually not that strong since the bonus is additive plus there are opportunity costs to not using other keepsakes
dusty vault
The best weapons for it are the ones that benefit the least from the bonus
sweet brook
sounds broken iimo
it goes away after you take it off so you can't take a defensive keepsake
and at the very most, you'll get like a 40% boost by the end of the run if you're cracked at hitless runs
and you also lose build control
since you cant take another keepsake
you could technically rng into a good build, but at that point plume is better for rng builds
final dune
keeping butterfly for 4 biomes is about the same as buying 2 well items with 1 hourglass in ely
but u cant get a build
sweet brook
it's like 1 jerky if you're playing a % based aspect lmao
rich elm
Man I either lost every 50/50 or I suck so much at fishing that I still haven't finished the stupid prophecy
or both
did some tests and my reaction time is around 200ms. so quite faster than the 1/3 second window for rare/legendary fish
frigid meadow
what ares boon was the one that was good by itself? was it it dash
final dune
basically yeah
frigid meadow
his call feels super good
final dune
his call is the worst call in the game
cedar delta
Feels fun at least
frigid meadow
his call is the worst call in the game
can you take dmg during it
final dune
no
frigid meadow
then the only bad thing about it I see is that you cant get bad of a bad place while using it
final dune
the bad thing is that it deals absolutely no damage
i would much rather have a call you can take damage during but kills enemies
like zeus
frigid meadow
idk I like it more than artemis's atleast
tall osprey
Man I either lost every 50/50 or I suck so much at fishing that I still haven't ...
Cover the bob with your hand. It's distracting and its purpose is only to make you fail
frigid meadow
how do I fish or what?
upbeat spoke
if you have fishing pole then rooms with water have a small chance to spawn a fishing point
frigid meadow
is stubborn or death defiance better
dusty vault
Death if you are only dying to bosses
Stubborn helps if you die too often but that's also solved with practice
Stubborn also has a niche for an optional challenge
cedar spade
yes
urban sequoia
Okay I think I'm messing up the story by not dying anymore lol
sour quiver
damn rail with triple rockets destroys
sour quiver
Okay I think I'm messing up the story by not dying anymore lol
you should be fine đŽ
urban sequoia
I'm completing every run and so much stuff just doesn't happen, I let them kill me on purpose twice and so much stuff happened in those two moments lol
I guess I should die from time to time
dusty vault
yeah that can happen lmao
rip any side quest for as long you have main story lines queued up
sour quiver
story got priority
urban sequoia
I still don't know why I'm not unlocking the fourth spear variant so I'm kinda lacking behind
sour quiver
spend 5 titant blood across al weapons
urban sequoia
I know Achilles is supposed to tell you about it
sour quiver
yeah if you have story stuff then that go's first
wait till you gotta trigger one of the gods lol
urban sequoia
I am ||when Persephone asks Zagreus how does he know that Hades loves her, and I just sneaked inside his room thanks to Achilles||
That's kinda where I'm at in the story
But side quests are pretty much stuck I feel
dusty vault
spend 5 titant blood across al weapons
unlock 5 non zag aspects*
spear is different
the rest is invest 5 blood on the weapon
sour quiver
^ yeah that
onyx nexus
Guys i'm new, where can i see some builds cuz i don't know wich boon is good or nor
cedar delta
dusty vault
(it has some spoilers for some keepsakes/aspects btw)
meager igloo
Ah thanks thatâs really helpful :)
restive portal
The answer is really "there is no best one" each his different effects and each is useful in specific circumstances.
It would depend on the weapon you're using etc.
Also, ||heat|| is a spoiler in this channel.
onyx nexus
Oh ty
rich elm
should I disable Dark Foresight for a higher chance to run into Sisyphus?
dusty vault
It doesn't affect the chances for it
rich elm
Oh that surprises me. I thought that it does because I interpreted "Each rank gives you +2% greater chance for Gold Laurel rewards " as "reduces the chance for everything else to show up"
viscid notch
Oh that surprises me. I thought that it does because I interpreted "Each rank gi...
I think bouldy is a different encounter when it comes to how the rewards are rolled from the bag. Same should apply to the other story chambers. Unfortunately I cant find the message explaining it in detail but yea basically DF doesnt affect it
balmy maple
Yeah, those chambers and shops can appear as both blue and gold laurel rewards.
stoic raven
with \|| \|| around the text
||epic example text||
craggy peak
|I I think you did it wrong |I
fading oracle
Ayyy got the true ending finally. That took me way too long
ancient sage
How many zones are there to get through?
cedar delta
||10-six||
urban sequoia
How many zones are there to get through?
||4, the fourth one being relatively short and not too difficult||
Buy 3 death defiances from the mirror and maybe use lucky tooth keepsake too, you'll get there
sour quiver
Lucky tooth has saved my ass many times
rich elm
I usually go with the acorn. I honestly don't know what people usually use
tall osprey
I usually go with the acorn. I honestly don't know what people usually use
In the start I did use some times the Lucky Thooth, but I was so lucky myself that I didn't need the extra death defiance most of the times.
My favourite keepsake is the one considered a spoiler, which I like to have from start to finish
sour quiver
I start with a god keepsake Forky build
At final place I either use lucky tooth or something else
mint sleet
I bought hades a few days ago and I noticed that some items (Keys, nectar, diamond, etc) Well the number that appears on the left of their respective icons sometimes is a different color than white. Orangish/yellow. I was wondering what that means
broken girder
I think it happens in the moment that the number rises Iâm not sure tho
mint sleet
That what I thought too as after sending my question, I went to another room and the color was gone. And the 2 colored text were the items I had gotten from giving my fishes to the cook
rich elm
are there ways to return to the hub fast without the use of "give up"? Sometimes I just wanna start over and it might take a bit to die
bright cliff
Finally beat Elysium and it feels awesome đ
Took me like five tries and I encountered || Hades ooops || so might have to try many times to get past him, any tips?
rich elm
giving up i think gives the same seed?
yes
rich elm
Finally beat Elysium and it feels awesome đ
Took me like five tries and I encou...
please hide the name
sour quiver
and the dash from athena helped me deflect if needed
rich elm
thanks
bright cliff
i used lucky tooth give me 1 more death defiance
I usually have the chaos one till Elysium and then lucky tooth, I might also start saving coins for the temple of styx from now on
sour quiver
i use the keepsakes spesific to a build then at the end i use lucky tooth
rich elm
I used the acorn to dodge some hits. athena's dash is one of my favourite boons. Also shield helps if you like it
sour quiver
love the dash and deflect â¤ď¸
rich elm
yup, saves my stupid butt very often
bright cliff
though the poison guys are really annoying towards the end
I might try going for athena more from now on, till now Ares has been really helpful in getting here
sour quiver
use pools in the chambers
bright cliff
use pools in the chambers
yep, still they get really annoying if there's a lot of things to dodge
sour quiver
||Hera|| build with crushshot destroys them pretty fast
bright cliff
ah interesting, also I've tried to test it but I'm inclined on the regenerating casts as opposed to greater number of them
I just forget to use cast and use my special most of the time with the spear
rich elm
||Hera|| build with crushshot destroys them pretty fast
hera?
craggy peak
Finally beat Elysium and it feels awesome đ
Took me like five tries and I encou...
You can use tooth, but Euridyceâs keepsake (acorn) will generally tank more damage once maxed out
Would only say that for || hades || though
dusty vault
on heroes it also applies
sour quiver
never tried it
stoic raven
i think they only do like 15-25 damage, excluding charge
warm girder
Hi guys, what weapon and aspect do you recommend to optimize my runs as much as possible?
viscid notch
Hi guys, what weapon and aspect do you recommend to optimize my runs as much as ...
Optimize them in what way?
warm girder
Optimize them in what way?
finish the run as quickly and easily as possible,
viscid notch
finish the run as quickly and easily as possible,
It depends on how fast you're aiming to go, I would recommend you check Eris Hestia Hera Achilles Nemesis Demeter and the Hidden Shield if you have it, those are the best of each weapon and will make it easier for you but there are fundamentals that you should practice in order to go fast to begin with. I suggest you look at this guide, might contain spoilers: https://youtu.be/_bxwSsTPubI
restive portal
finish the run as quickly and easily as possible,
Turn on God Mode?
sour quiver
Turn on God Mode?
that srill requires you to die a few times to get stronger i think
restive portal
Yeah but either you will die a few times or it didn't matter.
warm girder
It depends on how fast you're aiming to go, I would recommend you check Eris Hes...
Thanks a lot
warm girder
Turn on God Mode?
Bro that's literally easy mod , I want to play to the real game ,and get better and better
broken girder
Itâs not that bad especially while practicing for runs, you can check what exactly you can do
For example going to corners in asphodel as you tend to burn a lot, even tho you can survive that easily, but yeah you can practice boss fights with that really well
viscid notch
Yea I mean if you can beat runs and just want to get faster then no point in God Mode really. Also cant submit speedruns if you have god mode turned on so might be something to take into considerations if you plan on doing that
restive portal
Bro that's literally easy mod , I want to play to the real game ,and get better ...
I mean if you want to get better and better, why ask for the list of best builds/weapons etc.? Play them yourself and see what works for you. There is no clear "best build" or "best weapon" unless you're pushing over 32 heat. Just have fun with the game and learn what works for you.
dusty vault
use embeds, send to another discord and copy img link
or a host site like imgur
first is ambrosia, is basically super nectar ( 
)
it replaces nectar once you gift enough to a character
you get it by killing the 3rd boss with a weapon for the first time
bull and theseus
and sorry I was playing lol
the other resource is titan blood, kill the first boss with a weapon for the first time for it
before the first escape blood is kinda limited so
How do I get more blood
-beating the first boss for the
first time with a weapon will net you one blood.
-final boss drops another + after that you unlock the best way to farm blood.
other sources:
trading for it at lounge (1 -ambrosia for 1 T.blood is always there and sometimes. -15 keys for 1 blood which is super good)
list of minor prophecies
-Charon may sell one blood for 1200 gold at the last area shop
focus on the mirror skills for now I'd say
stuff like 2nd dash and 2nd and 3rd death defiance help a lot
cedar delta
Hi guys, what weapon and aspect do you recommend to optimize my runs as much as ...
Shield with aspect of Zeus!
sweet brook
Yes
rich elm
How many encounters does styx have?
cedar delta
2-5 corridors depending on your luck and/or your desire to run a bunch of corridors
Each corridor is like 4 rooms on average, I think
rich elm
Oh, I thought every corridor has a fixed number of rooms
stoic raven
zeus attack, poseidon dash, random supporting stuff.
the other boons youll want are splitting bolt and static discharge
other gods you can go for are:
aphrodite for smoldering air/special/life affirmation
any other god, preferably not ares or dionysus
frigid meadow
can I not get more titans blood?
viscid notch
can I not get more titans blood?
You have to do bounties
frigid meadow
on the fated list thing?
cedar delta
Have you beaten the game?
frigid meadow
||what do I do with the big nectar bottle things I get from asterius||
||ive gotten to hades 2nd phase no futher||
viscid notch
You gotta beat the game to get bounties, which will let you get more resources such as titan blood
viscid notch
||ive gotten to hades 2nd phase no futher||
spoiler that in this channel
viscid notch
||what do I do with the big nectar bottle things I get from asterius||
You gift it to npcs and gods, but you have to progress quite a bit to be eligible
frigid meadow
is that imporant or can I just trade it for titans blood at the big shade?
viscid notch
You can trade some of it, keep a few tho
It is pretty important just takes a while to get to
frigid meadow
i have 2 right now and trade 1 before and I think i can get 3 more when I beat them with other weapons
frigid meadow
You can trade some of it, keep a few tho
how many are a few
cedar delta
Like 3-5
frigid meadow
you get 6
lapis isle
Hey all super late to this game. I just beat hades for the first time with spear and then read that it's possible to upgrade weapons.
The spear upgrade seemed to have a negative of reduction of max hp all other weapons don't seem to have a negative from what I have read so far.
Is there a reason to upgrade the spear if it reduces max hp?
cedar delta
Only the fourth, hidden spear aspect has the HP reduction. Do note that aspects are basically entirely different subweapons
They don't affect each other at all
regal ether
is that imporant or can I just trade it for titans blood at the big shade?
npcâs give you a new keepsake the first time you gift them nectar and if you max out ||thanatos, meg, skully, dusa, etc etc. you will obtain their ||summon||. it takes a while though
regal ether
Hey all super late to this game. I just beat hades for the first time with spear...
thatâs only for the aspect of guan yu. the aspects donât affect other aspects of the same weapon
achillesâ spear is very good
lapis isle
thatâs only for the aspect of guan yu. the aspects donât affect other aspects of...
Oh I mis understood I haven't unlocked the last weapon and do not see the option to upgrade weapons just yet. Thanks!
regal ether
you can bring up the aspect menu by interacting with the weapon you currently have equipped in skullyâs arena
you need titan blood to upgrade aspects/weapons but you wont get a lot of those until later on in the game
leaden whale
you can bring up the aspect menu by interacting with the weapon you currently ha...
Not if you haven't unlocked that yet
spring sequoia
Hello guys. I've only been around hade for almost a week and have a little question about arrow weapon
How can I open the 4th type of the arrow? I've already given Artemis a gift and can't give more right now
tight flower
Hi! Have you already gotten the 4th aspect for the spear?
restive portal
You'll need to wait until ||you're given the "waking phrase" for each aspect||. Who gives it to you differs per aspect. I don't recall for Bow.
broken girder
Check #h1-story-discussion pins
restive portal
Apparently you don't need to have unlocked Guan Yu for it.
viscid notch
Check bounties, they pop up before you start a run, it's not a more efficient way, it's the same way, you just have access to more
dusty vault
(I call it efficient vs grinding through trades/shop fwiw)
viscid notch
oh yea that is true in that case. I thought it meant more efficient than getting them from the 4 bosses, in which case it's just the same
faint umbra
||you get more after finishing a run||
dull grove
||you get more after finishing a run||
another way perhaps ?
faint umbra
fulfilling prophecies and trading 15 keys with the broker in a special deal
rich elm
man how often do I have to talk to sisyphus...we are at max hearts and I've talked to him like a dozen times
ah complaining helps. got the prophecy now
craggy peak
another way perhaps ?
you get one per weapon until you clear, then game explains what to do to get more
cedar delta
Can also trade for it once in a while via a nice deal from the Broker
dapper thunder
Is there a way to have more chance to encounter NPCs ?
dapper thunder
I ||freed|| the first two, did 3 runs no luck :/
dusty vault
Idk chamber layouts enough to see if some can't offer npc rooms
dapper thunder
Yeah I meant more about room choices
I guess there's patterns but not influencing so much
dusty vault
@final dune do you know if some rooms can't offer npc rooms
dusty vault
Ty
dapper thunder
Might be too much technical of a question x)
I feel like some rooms give more rooms choice then but it doesn't 100% mean more chances to see NPC
final dune
I feel like some rooms give more rooms choice then but it doesn't 100% mean more...
it does
more exits means more story room rolls
so a 3-exit c17 will give about 30% chance of eury
jagged jolt
hmm i have enough titan blood to max another weapon, should i go for poseidon or rama first đ
have no cast build weapons so kinda thinking about giving that a shot, and only really used chiron bow aside from when i only had zag unlocked and rama looks really cool too haha
i guess which do most people find funner :P
little hollow
quick question, how do i get more titan blood? already killed the fury sisters with each infernal arm, but hadnt beaten the final boss yet
just curious if there any other ways of getting titan blood
dusty vault
quick question, how do i get more titan blood? already killed the fury sisters w...
trading for it at lounge (1 -ambrosia for 1 T.blood is always there and sometimes. -15 keys for 1 blood which is super good)
list of minor prophecies
-Charon may sell one blood for 1200 gold at the last area shop
little hollow
alright cool
twilit temple
is this list for maxing out my 1st aspect for each weapon ok?
Nemesis Sword, Achilles Spear, Secret Shield, Hera Bow, Demeter Fist, Eris Rail
or should i change out some of them for something else?
wooden dirge
yeah it's good
but zeus, rama and hestia are also good
and hera doesn't need blood to be good
twilit temple
ok rama needs max blood though?
dusty vault
Not really
twilit temple
hmm so what should i spend blood on for the bow?
dusty vault
Well rama is the hidden aspect so just invest on hera ig lol
You need to invest 5 blood on the bow to unlock it (and also have revealed hidden spear)
twilit temple
ah assuming i have already unlocked all the secret weapons
dusty vault
If you have everything then is a matter of what you enjoy more
Rama and hera work at low lvl so just them to see what you enjoy more
twilit temple
hmm i like chiron but it doesn't have very good aoe clear
dusty vault
Yeah chiron kinda pales vs the other 3 aspects
It also wants more blood than the others to work
honest canopy
Hallo, I recently started playing Hades and wanted to know if there are any terms I should know of
faint umbra
what terms?
honest canopy
Iâve heard things like Em4 heat and I do not recognize them
faint umbra
a lot of them are abbreviations or things you will learn about later
honest canopy
Ah ok
lucid spade
does double strike apply on the lightning from seastorm?
dusty vault
Ye
last kelp
Elo,I very recently bought Hades on steam
last kelp
I am not used to play pc games and I suck already on the game
last kelp
Is there an issue that I enabled god mode?
last kelp
I already use it
craggy peak
How many runs?
last kelp
A few
3 maybe 4 runs for now
craggy peak
The way it works (I think) is you get +2% damage resistance per death
You wonât see immediate changes when you use it
last kelp
Oh
craggy peak
Every time you die you take less and less damage the next run
last kelp
I get it
craggy peak
Keep going at it, youâll get better as you keep playing
craggy peak
I use console so canât speak for performance issues but as long as it isnât too bad I think it will be fine
If you get any questions later on donât hesitate to ask here
craggy peak
Ooh
Nice
If you do, you could share it in #fan-works (do be careful of spoilers there, this is the only spoiler free channel for hades)
last kelp
oh ok
sweet brook
I have a laptop that runs a bit slow I should get used to it
the game is pretty well optimized, i had a potato laptop a bit ago and it still ran pretty fine
last kelp
I see
cedar delta
The game's not exactly pushing huuuuge polygon counts or crazy post-processing!
Even Zagreus looks a bit origami
stoic raven
the game is pretty well optimized, i had a potato laptop a bit ago and it still ...
i had a 2.3 dual core from intel, the game ran just fine
so long as you ignore the fan going at 200000 db
restive portal
The game's not exactly pushing huuuuge polygon counts or crazy post-processing!
Even so I've had it chug on PS4 plenty of times, but not for long, and not usually in a way that affects much.
sour quiver
Even so I've had it chug on PS4 plenty of times, but not for long, and not usual...
oof on ps4? đŽ
wonder how it is on switch
restive portal
No idea. But it's not a huge deal tbh. The frame rate just lags badly for a second or two.
dusty vault
I've only lagged on "oops, all flamewheels" rooms
restive portal
I recently had a (spoiler for final boss and later mechanics) ||speedy armoured Doomstone during EM4||. I hit it with Freezing Vortex which meant it ||threw out skulls at about 5 per second||. The resulting chaos, including ||Dad shooting his lasers at the same time|| made things kinda grind to a halt for a couple of seconds.
craggy peak
||what is an em4||
Do spoiler that
If you donât know how, put || on each side of the message
|| like this |I
unreal dagger
|| testing ||
stoic raven
If you donât know how, put || on each side of the message
||hehhe||
worn citrus
i just started playing yesterday any idea what i should focus on?
cedar delta
Upgrade the mirror! Check the pinned messages here for mirror guides
cedar delta
Oh crap you're a shiny!
cedar delta
Whatever you're most comfy with. Lots of people clear with the shield though. Aspect of Zeus is fantastic for clearing
worn citrus
Whatever you're most comfy with. Lots of people clear with the shield though. As...
alr2
sharp hollow
Whatever you're most comfy with. Lots of people clear with the shield though. As...
They started yesterday, guarantee they don't have aspects yet đ
cedar delta
Oh they will. They will
sharp hollow
well definitely but "what weapon should I be using" when they just started, maybe just say "shield" lol
cedar delta
TouchĂŠ
worn citrus
is there a guide for beating the levels
sweet brook
afaik not really
it's all just "learn enemy patterns" by just playing more
all enemies have a wind up attack animation, so watch out for those
dashes have iframes, so use them accordingly
dash strikes cut them short, so mix in empty dashes to avoid damage
worn citrus
all enemies have a wind up attack animation, so watch out for those
oh alr2
how do you get titans blood?
viscid notch
beat the game and finish prophecies
worn citrus
beat the game and finish prophecies
thats after i beat cerberus right?
viscid notch
well not exactly cerberus but sure
worn citrus
well not exactly cerberus but sure
theres more...
viscid notch
maybe
worn citrus
are there any buffs i should be targeting
viscid notch
nah you should be focusing more on learning enemy patterns and how the weapons work
Some boons are generally good picks but it all depends on your build and I wouldnt recomment relying on any and forcing them every run
For fast attacks go for flat damage and for heavier attacks with higher base damage go for % damage. Aside from that just play with whatever the game gives you
worn citrus
For fast attacks go for flat damage and for heavier attacks with higher base dam...
alr ty
stoic raven
theres more...
yes, you must face the most powerful off them all:
the wretched broker
slow brook
haii
first time playing hades
super fun game, been playing for a few hours
loving it
viscid notch
nice
dusty vault
As per channel description anything from final boss and beyond
urban sequoia
in that case I died because I dashed into a pool of lava
You made it to the second realm on your first attempt?
slow brook
You made it to the second realm on your first attempt?
4th
made it to third realm on my 8th
viscid notch
now your 12th you gotta get to the 4th biome
slow brook
lmao
urban sequoia
First attempt would've been insane because meg with only one dash is pretty rough imo
weak cargo
just downloaded, aynthing to keep in mind while playing?
restive portal
I had only one dash for ages because I didn't spot that the mirror was thing for about 8 runs.
viscid notch
just downloaded, aynthing to keep in mind while playing?
Just know that dashing gives you full iframes as long as you dont press other buttons during the dash, aside from that yolo
slow brook
First attempt would've been insane because meg with only one dash is pretty roug...
I actually reached her first attempt đ when I started a new game
urban sequoia
Yeah that I did too but I died to her
urban sequoia
just downloaded, aynthing to keep in mind while playing?
It would've helped me so I'll tell you, focus on buying weapons before mirror
weak cargo
okok
restive portal
It would've helped me so I'll tell you, focus on buying weapons before mirror
Getting 2nd dash is huge. That whole first section or two is very impactful.
urban sequoia
Yeah it's pretty much necessary lol
slow brook
me when I get reflect (I'm going to win the game)
urban sequoia
At least for normal players lol
For top level high heat runners I guess they're fine
urban sequoia
we so back
Real
fervent jolt
So Iâm trying to go as blind as I can for full completion. Is there anything that isnât spelled out for me, whether through unmissable dialogue or listed in the prophecies?
slow brook
We'll be back
bullied the minotaur, we so back
wispy herald
How do i unlock Artemis last heart?
static cliff
did you max out her keepsake
tall osprey
How do i unlock Artemis last heart?
Increase the affinity as more as possible, and just keep talking to her. There are no weird conditions. Just use her keepsake
upbeat spoke
she has couple conversations about Callisto, you have to exhaust them
so yeah just keep using her during runs
livid bane
Just know that dashing gives you full iframes as long as you dont press other bu...
Wish someone told me this sooner.
stoic raven
just delta chamber for iframes 
slow brook
oof
got taken out by the hydra cause I was a single pixel in its aoe
alright
narrowed the weapons down to what I find is actually useful:
the spear and the funny laser gun
thats pretty much it
sweet brook
it do be like that
on the other hand, all the weapons are pretty useful lmao
well they all at least work
some are more eh than others but they're all fine
slow brook
eh true
but like, spear double dash with dash strike is stupid powerful
especially with the boons you can do some nuts damage
sweet brook
all weapons can be strong with the right boons lmao
and they all involve dash striking for the most part
slow brook
oh yeah combat is basic as well, only reason its not repetitive is because of the boons
around the 4th hour the game started getting repetitive for me with repeated rooms and enemies being samey
sweet brook
the enemies always stay the same for each biome so you kinda have to get used to that lmao
but builds being different each time is fun
slow brook
less enemy variety = game bad 
sweet brook
it kinda sorta changes later lmao
slow brook
the hydra is a pretty annoying fight to me at least because of its phases where it shields its head and spawns more of itself
meg was okay but its pretty obvious that she is essentially the tutorial boss to prepare the player for the rest of the game
sweet brook
hydra fight isn't so bad if you burn through like 1-2 heads at the start asap
that's what i found early game iirc
it'll give you some room to work your way down the line at the start
slow brook
game caught my interest quickly but I'm quickly getting burnt out here 
sweet brook
how long have you been playing?
slow brook
the curse of having too many games
slow brook
how long have you been playing?
3-5 hours
slow brook
ran into the minotaur and got destroyed
sweet brook
yeah that happens
slow brook
for that amount of time
ehh the repeated dying is fine but I don't like having to go through everything again
really irritates me
sweet brook
tbf it is a roguelike so you kinda have to bash your head into the wall until you get a lucky break or you learn enemy patterns better lol
well that's the point of the genre lmao
slow brook
tbf it is a roguelike so you kinda have to bash your head into the wall until yo...
I never played a roguelike before
sweet brook
that's fine, a lot of the best players in the world have hades as their first roguelike lmao
slow brook
I know enemy patterns its just stuff annoys me
sweet brook
yeah some stuff can be a pain in the ass
slow brook
I thought the portal to the chaos world would be like a skip, but no its a waste of health
at least to me it is
sweet brook
it is a skip
slow brook
yeah some stuff can be a pain in the ass
it is pretty clear that the devs reskinned certain enemies as well
or just have a tiny hydra as a regular enemy
sweet brook
each biome has a certain amount of chambers, and taking a chaos lets you skip a combat chamber
slow brook
bomb enemies with like 3 variations
slow brook
each biome has a certain amount of chambers, and taking a chaos lets you skip a ...
the health loss isn't worth it to me tbh
sweet brook
bomb enemies with like 3 variations
i mean yeah but also if you go into some wilderness, you'll probably find some similar looking stuff lmao
slow brook
i mean yeah but also if you go into some wilderness, you'll probably find some s...
I get that its hard designing unique enemies but come on
sweet brook
the health loss isn't worth it to me tbh
for early game players, it can seem like that yeah
once you get better at the game, they can become sorta free
slow brook
have been dealing with a lot of games recycling and reusing content
so this just makes me go ew
sweet brook
i think that's the first time i've heard that complaint for hades lmao
slow brook
well thats what happens when you get different perspectives 
sweet brook
true
i mean just keep playing, the game gets more interesting lmao
you'll get better too and it's always fun to see your own progress
at one point i was hard stuck at elysium lmao
slow brook
meh
lost interest in the game pretty fast, I'll put it in the maybe I'll play it again category
sweet brook
welp
slow brook
(I won't play it ever again for years)
stoic raven
at one point i was hard stuck at elysium lmao
i was HARD stuck at ||end boss|| because i was trying to dash iframe stuff
kept getting annihilated by the ||jab attack||
slow brook
oh yeah idk what disco elysium is
stoic raven
disco elysium is a cool place with blue men
and possibly your most hated enemy(its mine at least))
slow brook
huh?
sweet brook
elysium enemies are sometimes pain
slow brook
now you lost me
sweet brook
now you lost me
the 3rd biome is called elysium and their enemies are sometimes pain
slow brook
huh?
cedar delta
What if I go like "?"
Would that help?
sweet brook
yeah probably
slow brook
unless you're just trolling at this point
here we go again
when will the "they are trolling" stop?
craggy peak
They are genuinely not sure if youâre joking or not
sweet brook
i mean you didn't clarify which part you're confused about
craggy peak
Because what they said was pretty clear
sweet brook
i thought it was clear, and it's fine if you didn't think it was
but also i can't tell which part you're confused on, especially since i elaborated on the point you seemed confused on
slow brook
They are genuinely not sure if youâre joking or not
its getting annoying
every time I get confused about something its like "oh their trolling lmao"
like
shut up
christ its annoying
craggy peak
You need to tell us what is confusing
cedar delta
"now you lost me" and "huh?" are very, very unclear. No offense, but what are we to do with that?
sweet brook
we want to be helpful but we also have no idea what you're confused about lmao
cedar delta
Putting on my (former) tutor hat: asking good questions is an important skill, kiddos!
craggy peak
Itâs like 12:30
slow brook
"now you lost me" and "huh?" are very, very unclear. No offense, but what are we...
read then
very simple
craggy peak
I should sleep
slow brook
we want to be helpful but we also have no idea what you're confused about lmao
it should be obvious but okay
slow brook
now you are just being rude
sweet brook
you said all that and i frankly don't know what part of the previous message you're confused on
slow brook
well this community sucks now, this is why I don't interact with the community of games đ bye
sweet brook
craggy peak
âŚ..
sweet brook
alrighty then
asking us to "read then" when we're confused about what you're confused about isn't particularly helpful
but aight
cedar delta
Like...you've gotta put some effort into communicating well, y'know?
Can't just stare at teacher with a puzzled look on your face and have her read your mind. Please speak! Using words!
sweet brook
i'd be shocked to see anyone take your side of this argument given the full context lmao
sweet brook
lmao gn
craggy peak
Gn
Gonna go for 50s tomorrow
Wait
It is tomorrow
Time for a midnight hades run
Gn
cedar delta
Goodnight!
viscid notch
I missed the action
sweet brook
dw about it
sweet brook
fair enough carry on
urban sequoia
it is pretty clear that the devs reskinned certain enemies as well
Did they?
I don't remember that
Which enemies are reskinned throughout areas?
Oh okay I got which ones you meant with bomb enemies
Tbh it's such a small nitpick I wouldn't blame the game for that or compare it to other games that recycle content, it's not elden ring level, plus this is a particular genre of games where you play the game over and over again, even when you finish it once you'll see that you have to keep playing
And you just play the game over and over and over and over and over again, that's how roguelikes work
Idk if I like them that much because the ones I played I don't really like, but I do love Hades for some reason
So a reskinned enemy that actually doesn't work like its other counter parts isn't a big deal when you consider how many enemies there are and how many times you're going to meet them
Also that enemy is kind of a mini boss too, when it appears in encounters it's generally a smaller encounter since it's considered to be a heavier enemy, biome specific enemies make up the majority of the enemies
And what people were talking about were enemies from the third area of the game, the kinda blue-ish one after you kill the Hydra
The humanoid looking ones with a spear, a shield or a bow, the chariots, the small kamikaze chariots and so on
And yeah biome specific enemies make up the majority of the game's enemies
final dune
why does bro waddle in and start making complaints nobody else cares about and then gets mad
urban sequoia
TL;DR if you feel like the game is repeating too much, you probably don't like the fundamentals of a roguelike, that's good it means next time you see a game you're interested in and you see it's a roguelike you won't buy it
But it's really not a fault of the game, especially Hades does SOOOOO much compared to other roguelikes I player to make every run completely different
final dune
mfw there are different bomber types to add variety đ¤Ż
hades has the most replayability of any game i have ever played in my life
urban sequoia
Switching weapon for the sake of it is also part of the replayability, you're just starting out you haven't even completed the game once it's normal you feel like every weapon is useless, you'll get to a point when you have enough upgrades + you'll be good enough to complete the game with every weapon plus and that adds quite a bit to replayability
urban sequoia
mfw there are different bomber types to add variety đ¤Ż
They say it's a reskinned enemy so it's bad
final dune
they hadnt even made it to elysium right
sweet brook
they did
urban sequoia
For the most part it's a true statement that reskinned enemies = bad. But it has to be contextualised imo
sweet brook
they said they died to bull or something
final dune
i think it is kind of weird to complain about reused things when you have made jt through like
urban sequoia
they hadnt even made it to elysium right
iirc just to elysium and just the asterius miniboss
final dune
40% of the total enemy variety
urban sequoia
Now that I think about it there are 3 bomb enemy types right?
final dune
yeah
urban sequoia
And one is in the fourth area
final dune
green purple and the other one
sweet brook
orange
one of them throws, one drops and jumps, and i forgot what the other does lmao
urban sequoia
There's the grenade one, the purple one and the one that tosses poison
Who is green
urban sequoia
What does the green one do?
final dune
theres the one that has a lot of hp, the one that has little hp, and the one that has medium hp
sweet brook
no clue, idek what each color does
sweet brook
oh i didn't even know they had different hp values
urban sequoia
Lmao
final dune
yeah the purple has more hp and difficulty value
urban sequoia
I forgor
final dune
thats why 2 armored purple is like a wave itself
final dune
while you can grt like 5 unarmored green a wave
urban sequoia
When do you meet them then? First three areas?
final dune
unarmored green are more annoying as well for grouping
slow brook
why does bro waddle in and start making complaints nobody else cares about and t...
I guess criticizing the game counts as complaining 
urban sequoia
The one that tosses bombs is in Tartarus that I remember
sweet brook
When do you meet them then? First three areas?
bombers?
tartarus miniboss and everywhere in asphodel
everywhere except 2 minibosses
urban sequoia
bombers?
tartarus miniboss and everywhere in asphodel
Yeah I do remember those two
final dune
I guess criticizing the game counts as complaining <:shrugKatarin:91082651607251...
when ur âcriticizingâ enemy variety without actually having encountered the majority of the enemies that doesnt feel particularly worthwhile a criticism
urban sequoia
In the first two areas
slow brook
when ur âcriticizingâ enemy variety without actually having encountered the majo...
who cares
urban sequoia
But I don't remember where's the third one then
slow brook
I can talk bad about a game from my experiences playing it
sweet brook
But I don't remember where's the third one then
i mean theyre just in aspho
slow brook
just because I haven't finished the game doesn't mean my opinion is automatically invalid lmfao
dumb logic
sweet brook
like every bomber type can be found in aspho
final dune
you are complaining about enemy variety, without having a grasp of the amount of enemy variety
urban sequoia
And how's the other one?
sweet brook
green lol
final dune
if you base enemy variety on first run its going to suck
urban sequoia
Oh so it is green lmao
final dune
because more enemies unlock over time
slow brook
you are complaining about enemy variety, without having a grasp of the amount of...
I'm not even complaining at all đ
seriously
everytime I talk its "complaining"
you don't know what complaining is
urban sequoia
You said devs are lazy
final dune
I get that its hard designing unique enemies but come on
whats this then
slow brook
You said devs are lazy
I didn't say that I found its lazy to reskin enemies
urban sequoia
And I wanted to explain to you they aren't, what they did with this game is mind blowing actually, I couldn't believe an indie studio would do something like this
slow brook
And I wanted to explain to you they aren't, what they did with this game is mind...
I probably got my taste ruined by recent games then who knows
final dune
hades is a recent game
slow brook
I tend to get annoyed when I see the same patterns I dislike in different games
slow brook
hades is a recent game
recent as in this year
final dune
đż
urban sequoia
You might not like roguelikes, that's normal tbh
Roguelikes are considered a niche
final dune
well
roguelikes are a niche
roguelites much less so
roguelikes are boring and annoying
roguelites like hades much more engaging
slow brook
You might not like roguelikes, that's normal tbh
me see overwhelingly positive so my brain goes unga bunga
urban sequoia
I don't even know the difference
sweet brook
And how's the other one?
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hades_gamepedia_en/images/c/cb/Burn-Flinger.png/revision/latest?cb=20190506070138
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hades_gamepedia_en/images/a/a5/Slam-Dancer.png/revision/latest?cb=20190506070341
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hades_gamepedia_en/images/f/fe/Inferno-Bomber.png/revision/latest?cb=20210409141455
slow brook
found the game pretty good for the first few hours but I got bored pretty quickly with the repetitive gameplay even with the boons and stuff mixed in
sweet brook
different colors
urban sequoia
me see overwhelingly positive so my brain goes unga bunga
Lol I don't blame you at all I did the same thing for elden ring knowing full well I didn't like open world games, but I liked souls games. You didn't even know how a roguelike plays so you just learned it now
slow brook
Lol I don't blame you at all I did the same thing for elden ring knowing full we...
I am a pretty difficult person to please when it comes to games so yeah
urban sequoia
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hades_gamepedia_en/images/c/cb/Burn-Flinger.pn...
I see
urban sequoia
So the green doesn't throw poison?
final dune
green groups annoyingly
urban sequoia
Dam I didn't remember that
sweet brook
it's not poison
final dune
purple is jumpy
sweet brook
but it does throw
they all have bombs, no poison
green throws, purple does slams, orange is like a mix i think?
urban sequoia
I need to replay the game and slow tf down lmao
Rushing like hell is brain-rotting my brain
sweet brook
dw we're all still learning on the way lmao
final dune
i mean i rush
urban sequoia
slow brook
Lol I don't blame you at all I did the same thing for elden ring knowing full we...
from what I saw of the reviews I assumed this game was gonna be a masterpiece everyone could enjoy or somethin đ
but every single time I come out dissapointed and frustrated
sweet brook
4th best speedrunner on the leaderboard just learned something new today
final dune
it is a masterpiece
sweet brook
from what I saw of the reviews I assumed this game was gonna be a masterpiece ev...
have you been following the story by chance
slow brook
it is a masterpiece
not to me, got burnt out quickly
final dune
so you didnt like it
slow brook
have you been following the story by chance
a bit yeah but I got bored and just started skipping
I lost interest fast
final dune
thats not the same as not being an incredible game
sweet brook
i think i found the problem then lmao
final dune
a bit yeah but I got bored and just started skipping
doesnt interact with the game
gets bored after not interacting with the game
sweet brook
a lot of people play and love the game for the story
urban sequoia
from what I saw of the reviews I assumed this game was gonna be a masterpiece ev...
Ye it really isn't, I feel like it can be compared to baldur's gate, it's a really polished experience but for a genre a lot of people won't like
sweet brook
they also just really like the gameplay lmao
urban sequoia
a bit yeah but I got bored and just started skipping
Oh well
sweet brook
but also like, game's not for everyone lmao
urban sequoia
That's one problem I think
sweet brook
which is understandable, everyone's got tastes
urban sequoia
The game has a pretty good story that ties in with the gameplay of dying a bunch of times
sweet brook
the story is the reason why players dont mind dying lmao
urban sequoia
And it's not filler content either
slow brook
>doesnt interact with the game
>gets bored after not interacting with the game
I do interact with the game?
urban sequoia
Devs recorded like 2000 voicelines iirc
slow brook
mfs be assuming
sweet brook
dying advances the story, so when you die it's like "time to find out more lore"
final dune
if you are skipping the dialogue
slow brook
the story is the reason why players dont mind dying lmao
I had interest then I lost it
urban sequoia
dying advances the story, so when you die it's like "time to find out more lore"
This
slow brook
if you are skipping the dialogue
yeah cause I lost interest
is it my fault I lost interest quickly?
sweet brook
well it's not really the game's fault so i guess? everyone's different lmao the game doesnt appeal to everyone
urban sequoia
I'm just saying much of the value this game has is in it's story
final dune
well its not an issue with the game
sweet brook
if you dont like the story or the gameplay that's fine, just a difference in taste
urban sequoia
If you're skipping it you're missing out on a key aspsct
final dune
maybe u dont like it
slow brook
well it's not really the game's fault so i guess? everyone's different lmao the ...
yeah I know
final dune
but thats not the fault of the game
urban sequoia
It's like playing Nier Automata and skipping cutscenes
slow brook
but a game should keep me interested through the entire experience
if it doesn't then
final dune
so youâre saying its the games fault
sweet brook
well then the game just isn't for you lmao
slow brook
can't refund the game anyway, its past the 2 hour mark
sweet brook
might as well play it and follow the story lmao
urban sequoia
At least you didn't spend much
sweet brook
oh yeah it is on sale rn isn't it
slow brook
well then the game just isn't for you lmao
like I said before, overwhelmingly positive, brain go unga bunga
urban sequoia
The game is super cheap even without sales
sweet brook
true, only $25
slow brook
At least you didn't spend much
it was like $18.25 with tax
sweet brook
there's tax on steam?
final dune
wat
slow brook
there's tax on steam?
australia has a law in place to tax anything not australian made for 10%
urban sequoia
I got it for 15âŹ, pretty insane ngl
final dune
i got it for 12.50
urban sequoia
I'd be surprised if Hades 2 doesn't cost more
final dune
on christmas last year
slow brook
still relatively cheap game compared to others tho lmao
just sucks that I feel like I never got my moneys worth
everyone was recommending the game to me but I got dissapointed
final dune
2nd best value i ever got out of a video game
sweet brook
i mean that's just a thing with every game tbf lmao
urban sequoia
just sucks that I feel like I never got my moneys worth
Felt 
final dune
100 hours per dollar so far
second only to geometry dash which is at 1200 hours per dollar
slow brook
Felt <:shadegrief:520448187358642194>
this is why I don't trust anyone who recommends me a game cause I'll most likely get dissapointed, or just blame gaming in general for never being able to keep me interested doesn't help that I didn't have any connection at all to anything that was happening in hades
sweet brook
well they recommend you a game because they enjoyed it and they want to share the experience
which is like a fair thing to do lmao
urban sequoia
everyone was recommending the game to me but I got dissapointed
One thing I would recommend when you're scared of buying something you don't know you'll like is check out stuff about it, what's the genre, what's the gameplay about, what are the game's strengths (like for example with hades you didn't know the story was like half the game so if you knew that maybe you might have had a different perspective going in)
slow brook
well they recommend you a game because they enjoyed it and they want to share th...
obviously but like I'm really hard to please when it comes to games
sweet brook
and gaming not being able to keep you interested doesn't seem like a problem with the games you play if they're all different genres, i just think you dont like games in general lmao
or hard to please i guess
slow brook
One thing I would recommend when you're scared of buying something you don't kno...
I tend to go in games blind so the experience isn't ruined for me
final dune
hades is still a great game if you remove the story
urban sequoia
One thing I would recommend when you're scared of buying something you don't kno...
Not trying to justify the game and putting all the blame on you or something, I'm just saying this meaning you might do something to avoid buying games you don't like
urban sequoia
I tend to go in games blind so the experience isn't ruined for me
That's always a gamble but I feel you
sweet brook
hades is still a great game if you remove the story
true, one of the top players in the world does not know the story at all and they have like 1k+ hours lmao
urban sequoia
At least I'd say check out what the genre is about
final dune
i dont actually remember most of the story at this point
sweet brook
i remember like the gists of it mostly
urban sequoia
I loved the story honestly and I'm someone who skips a ton of story stuff in games
slow brook
Not trying to justify the game and putting all the blame on you or something, I'...
I dislike having blame put on me for something that is not my fault
slow brook
I loved the story honestly and I'm someone who skips a ton of story stuff in gam...
^^^
sweet brook
well it's not like anyone's fault tbh
final dune
well its not the games fault that you pulled the trigger without researching it at all
slow brook
well its not the games fault that you pulled the trigger without researching it ...
dont' see why your putting the entire thing on me but okay lmao
oh well
urban sequoia
well its not the games fault that you pulled the trigger without researching it ...
Thing is they have never played a roguelike before, they didn't even know what tf it was about lol
urban sequoia
So really no one did anything wrong, she just found out she doesn't like roguelikes
slow brook
So really no one did anything wrong, she just found out she doesn't like rogueli...
which sucks tbh
slow brook
at least it's one of the cheaper games out there
In australia that is a bit expensive
sweet brook
there's probably cheaper roguelikes but at least if you ever feel like trying it again you have a good one lmao
sweet brook
In australia that is a bit expensive
i mean everything else is a bit expensive too
sweet brook
so like, even if hades is a bit expensive, it's still cheaper than other roguelikes
final dune
cause no real big studios have dipped their feet into it
urban sequoia
Aight now I need to know what tf is a roguelite
sweet brook
or at least equal/similar
sweet brook
lite/like is a difference
i dont remember
like is uh
no meta game upgrades i think
lite is meta game upgrades
slow brook
i mean everything else is a bit expensive too
australia has a bit of an issue
sweet brook
so the mirror
slow brook
Aight now I need to know what tf is a roguelite
a copycat
sweet brook
so hades is a roguelite? something like that
urban sequoia
Oh alr
slow brook
Is it bad that I can't form any connection in this game?
final dune
Roguelike (or rogue-like) is a style of role-playing game traditionally characterized by a dungeon crawl through procedurally generated levels, turn-based gameplay, grid-based movement, and permanent death of the player character. Most roguelikes are based on a high fantasy narrative, reflecting their influence from tabletop role-playing games such as Dungeons & Dragons.
The roguelike genre saw a resurgence in Western markets after 2000 through independent developers who created a new subgenre designated "rogue-lite", though the games are also sometimes called "roguelike-likes".
sweet brook
if i got the definitions switched then hades is a roguelike lmao
final dune
roguelite is roguelikes but without conforming to some stuff
like being real time
or having meta progression
sweet brook
Is it bad that I can't form any connection in this game?
connection as you the player and the physical game or in game connections because that's different things lmao
slow brook
idk
urban sequoia
The roguelike genre saw a resurgence in Western markets after 2000 through indep...
Roguelike like
urban sequoia
I said silly
slow brook
people are coming up with new stuff everyday so my brain is a mess
sweet brook
connection with characters in game or smth
you need nectar
urban sequoia
What did I say wrong oh well
slow brook
you need nectar
what is necter
sweet brook
the image i just sent is nectar
it's like
a drink i guess lmao
used to progress bonds with characters
urban sequoia
connection as you the player and the physical game or in game connections becaus...
LMAO I don't think they were talking about that
Prolly just saying she didn't like it
sweet brook
there's a prompt to gift characters and gods when you come up to them
sweet brook
LMAO I don't think they were talking about that
tbf i misread "in this game" and read "with this game" lmao
urban sequoia
Lmao
urban sequoia
Is it bad that I can't form any connection in this game?
Tbh to answer this question, yes
slow brook
Tbh to answer this question, yes
wdym
slow brook
Prolly just saying she didn't like it
brain runs slow
urban sequoia
Because you spent money you probably would've saved if you knew more XD
So it's bad for you and I feel u
sweet brook
i thought they said "in game" after that lmao
so they meant like with the characters
urban sequoia
i thought they said "in game" after that lmao
Oh well I don't even know at this point 
I just woke up
sweet brook
lmao fair enough
slow brook
Because you spent money you probably would've saved if you knew more XD
true tbh, but this is what happens when I want to experience games without knowing anything
urban sequoia
true tbh, but this is what happens when I want to experience games without knowi...
Yeah pretty much
Thinking about it I probably would've ended up skipping if not for dub
Visual novels or at least games that implement dialogue like this aren't dubbed usually, at least in my experience
Then I realized "wait is this real, EVERY SINGLE ONE of these voicelines is dubbed? The story ones and the more contestual, fluff ones"
And I just had to keep listening to it because it wasn't even a bad dub
I still do it now, when I talk to people I finish reading before they finish talking, but I let them finish talking and then I go to the next line
Or if I don't feel like reading I look at their drawing and listen to them, dub adds SOOOO much holy crap. I thought it wasn't worth it to dub everything in a game, but now man do I think that every extra cent spent to dub a game well is 100% worth it
slow brook
maybe I'm moody and not in the right mind to game lol
urban sequoia
It's aight lol
It's hard to just give it a second chance when you have a growing backlog, I feel that
I fixed my problem with it and now I don't have a backlog at all, well if we don't consider PS+ free games
Technically I haven't played all the ps+ free games I have but well they just handed them to me and I'm not even interested in most of them
cedar delta
I still do it now, when I talk to people I finish reading before they finish tal...
The dialogues are such good times to rest the eyes
urban sequoia
Yeah Zagreus is such a mood too lol
I like how chill he is all the time
He probably kills enemies and be like
But then he comes home and he's actually really empathetic with everyone
cedar delta
Except Doomstone. Nobody likes Doomstone!
urban sequoia
Who's doomstone đ
cedar delta
It's the giant stone miniboss in Tartarus. Spews minions and lasers at said minions
urban sequoia
Ohh right yeah
Yeah when he fights that one I guess he kinda wakes up and he be like
But then he goes back to
cedar delta
I like how he even says hello to the worst miniboss in the game, the witch's circle
urban sequoia
Oh for me the worst one is the black rat in the fourth area lol
I hate that fight so much lol, specifically the one where it spawns in the small arena with traps in the middle
Kinda vertical arena
And then there's someone else with him pissing poison all over the place
cedar delta
Poison! Poison and lasers everywhere
cedar delta
He's probably just relieved it isn't Tiny Vermin
slow brook
just experienced a bad boss fight
this one butterfly eyeball that just spams enemies
its the worst
urban sequoia
The one in Elysium?