#h1-for-new-players
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The keepsake order that's really consistent is taking a god keepsake into Tartarus to start your build right, a secod keepsake into Asphodel to finish your build/get the secondary god you want if you didn't find them in Tartarus, and then you take tooth or acorn or whatever into Ely and Styx
this is the point where learning what builds work with which weapons really matters
you also probs want to get far enough into the mirror to unlock Family Favorite, and max out your Death Defiances, Boiling Blood and Infernal Soul as a priority
as well as Deep Pockets + Thick Skin
runs will get way easier after that point
nice I'll work on this tysm guys
I've been told Bow works best for first clear?
thinking about investing my titan's blood here
Shield is really safe for new players because it can block, and when you unlock the fists it's a good basic aspect as well due to the stunlock mechanic
Bow is definitely a really good weapon tho, so if you like using it, you can put blood into it
wow I managed to kill the two bosses with a shield run, what did they just dropped me?
Ambrosia
don't worry about it for now, it'll be more useful later
It can be traded for Titan Blood at the broker's
It’s probably best that way, ambrosia gets important later, but then you’ll have better ways of farming it (especially since that additional titanblood would help with upgrading weapons)
|| I'm about to face hades lmao ||
|| I still have 2 possible death ||
|| his second form got me, he was at like 15%hp tho ||
|| I could have killed it? ||
You could’ve
I can see I have || 4 upgrades available with titans blood|| do they all activate at once or do I have to choose between those
Each one has a lock that shows how much you need to level up or unlock it
But if I upgrade the 1st line and the 2nd line do they apply both
then it's better to focus on one aspect first 😮
Indeed. And in the pins of this channel there's a little chart showing what you get for your investment per level per aspect
👍
any tips for the bow? I beat the game with every weapon except for this one. Even struggle with the first fight. Feels like the special deals no damage and the attacks immobilise myself
Dash strike with the bow
It'll charge faster and keep you more mobile
It'll be more like a rhythm game
I thought dashes always release my attack immediately
at least this is what it feels like
Dash before you hold attack
If you dash while charging the attack it'll release the shot
But still calc the damage as a dash strike, even if you didn't dash into the attack I believe
ah this is how it works
good to know that I can still make beginner mistakes after so much playtime lol
I appreciate your help
yup
Is it weird that it feels the best to play this game with both controller and mouse at the same time? I have a hard time with movement on a keyboard.
Not too weird, even tho controller should be enough
The best playing way is the one you like I suppose ^^
I guess lol
I only play with a pro Switch controller (but It's more like a mouse problem krkr)
Omg I have some old wii remotes
I can hold the numchuck in one hand
I've played with some but have a very bad coordination so It's complicated asf
|| yay first clear ! with zeus shield, 23 tries 🌼 ||
only succeeded with your advices guys 😄
You would’ve eventually, we just sped up the progress a bit
Is there any way to see how many hours I've played? (switch version)
Perhaps there’s a stat menu on the switch that says how much you played each game, in game you can only see the amount of tries I think
then it's more than 10 hours but less than 15
I love the name and profile pic
How do u do it so quickly😭
Zeus^2
I also use zeus shield I'm just ass
This is a stupid question but does the hades 2 trailer have spoilers for hades 1
Probably not
Phew
Well the advantage of doing it for the first time is having as much time as you need, make it a one hour run, if doesn’t matter that much, take your time and you can do that very good with the Zeus shield
There are probably spoilers in the hades 2 discussion tho
I always Zeus the wrong way
Throw call back, and let it follow you while you dash through the map
i was apprehensive about it but ive dedicated myself to it for a few days and its actually really fun
zeus is like a yoyo
Talos too ig
Are there any Mirror loadout you guys can recommend?
the general one is
the flipped ones being fiery presence, family favorites, dark foresight, fated persuasion
so in order it's like fiery presence, cthonic vitality, death defiance, greater reflex, boiling blood, infernal soul, deep pockets, thick skin, family favorites, dark foresight, god's pride, fated persuasion
the ones which there are reasons to switch sometimes are fiery presence to shadow presence, death defiance to stubborn defiance, infernal soul to stygian soul, thick skin to high confidence, and occasionally god's pride to god's legacy
stuff for which the reasons to switch round to 0 are dark foresight, ruthless reflex, abyssal blood, golden touch, privileged status, olympian favor, and fated authority
i didnt think fiery presence would be generally desirable than shadow presence
then again i never focus enough on hitting behind enemies
most of the time fiery presence is better
thanks for that i really appreciate it
np
god keepsakes, charon, eurydice are the most important generally
thatnk you for boosting my ego indirectly
Anytime
Hmm, whats a good amount of attempts to reach hades for the first time?
how ever many times it may take
Is the spear spin move good for anything or do you just spam light attacks
if you ever get posiedon and get the knock back effect for normal attack it's pretty good to get things away from you if you're surrounded
I see from like bigger mobs
Cause the little ones swarm you really quick
yeah pretty much
Also the sword is broken lol I just run through enemies
Really haha
I like the gun as well lol
pact?
Ok lol
hows your runs going?
i did it in 30-40 attempts
There is none, every number is good
not really imo. unless you get the hammer that speeds up the charge time or a boon that powers it up, it’s not really worth using.
thats just me tho
And even then flurry jab is still better
but dont just mash attack either, try to strategize. especially with achilles’ spear.
Or serrated
well i made it for the first time in 13 or so attempts, which for me was suprising seeing as I didn't have a ton of mirror upgrades yet
Hi, I just buy Hades with the original sountrack and I want to know if I have to do something to activate it in my files of not
You guys always clear every run? 😮
Where'd you buy it from?
Epic games
@meager jacinth, check your library for a separate OST download
and that's all ?
Do a handstand, then transition into a cartwheel!
why has no one taught me about dash+attack at the same time lmao it's so much easier now
doesn't it tell you about that in the courtyard with skelly lmao
I'm only learning this after 12 + hours and two clears lmao
this feels like playing easy mode now
dash strike?
yeah there's a moves guide in top left everytime you equip an aspect
yeah but I thought it was dash then strike
seems like it's the term yeah
that works too
yeah but dash strike is so much more OP
I mean it still counts as dash strike(until the time window) after u dash and attk
it spams much faster with both at the same time
u don't have to press them both at the same time
I had that boon with Athena that reflected projectiles I was literally just spamming dash strike lol
yea, I'm just saying u don't have to
also dash strike make u lose i-frames u get from dashes so be careful
delaying dash strikes let you keep some iframes before you attack so it's worth trying
you can also "reach" farther with delayed dash strikes
for the melee weapons at least
try again
that is good advice
kill the bull first
and avoid theseus arrows when they target on u
tldr cower in fear behind a wall
Or abuse I frames
How did you do it?
look at theseus' position, and then imagine a line between zag and theseus, then try to get a wall between the 2
And damage the bull
Zeus,Poseidon, Aphrodite cast boons are good, but they play differently to each other.
Dionysius also good, especially if you can pick up scintillating feast.
Sea storm with Poseidon cast similarly good.
And there's always Demeter and crystal beam.
So lots of choice for good cast builds depending on your play style
I think they meant like support boons for cast builds
chaos lmao
Cast builds are mostly powered up by some duo boon or god specific boon.
but for cast centric builds, nothing else is really useful other than like hyper delivery from hermes
mirage shot is fine, just not worth going for most of the time unless you rng into it naturally
hunting blades and lightning phalanx are great duo builds
And chaos giving bonus casts etc.
kinda just depends on what kind of cast build you want to run
Sea storm razor shoals jolted is great, scintillating feast jolted double strike also.
But none of that's support really, it's the primary aim.
Sea storm is good since you can get it on everything (I know dash won't enable it but it still works if you get it)
Thanks :)
||How often do I have to beat the game to see the entire story?||
10 runs for credits, then epilogue which depends on different factors
And that's only main story
I see. thank you for the answer
Is there option to make the satyr sack always appears in the second tunnel you pick?
It's been like this for me for many runs
Only through the speedrun mod, you mad have good luck
literally like I've accidentally set some kind of setting
it's like this for many days with many runs
Well if you don’t have the mod, you shouldn’t complain
I just find it's weird
I’m sure you’ll miss it soon enough
^
2 sack is like a 52% chance to happen
i feel pretty happy about my recent luck then in that case
last 4 fishes have all been rares(none were perfects), and ive gotten 2sack 3-4 times in a row
cant wait for it to be broken now
I unlocked || fishing || how does that work lmao
Look for glowing spot in a chamber > interact > wait for blob to fully sink (has a white flash along it) > press interact. Can deliver fish to the cook in the house, rewards depends on rarity of fish/where you got it
If a chamber has a fishing spot there's also a ding sound either at the start or end of the chamber
If you want to get technical: #h1-for-new-players message
tysm
thats the problem i wanna met her to get the keepsake
lol
i think she has the best dash boon right ?
yeah i am bad at doing a good build but i hate searching for ones online too
There's one site pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat that has a bunch
Has spoilers for the hidden aspects and maybe 2 post credit keepsakes though
The short version for most is
Slow weapon, big dmg = grab some % boon
Fast but weak = go flat dmg like zeus or dio
And once you get the codex upgrade to see the boon list you can start aiming for more specifics
i still dont know which weapon to go with lmao
i just like fast stuff like the gloves
Whatever's fun for you works well
you reckon i can finish the game without going with online builds just rolling my own ??
Yup
My first win was by looking at a duo boon in the codex and just aiming to get it lmao
Ended up winning
if you can figure out what the best god to put on glove attack is, you're probably set 👍🏾
yeah i think my favorite is the glove or sword since theyre the fastest, shield is good but tbh charging the shield is risky and its not that nice
bow is fun for range
which one do you mean ?
sword and fists fastest 
Well in terms of attack not time
yeah thats what i think lol
Even tho flurry jab
which one do you think
If you wanna use fists, than the best thing to do is probably me
i cant meaningfully answer the fastest weapon question until ur further in the game
well
unless u have all the weapons unlocked
Chiron
i am saving to unlock the last weapon which looks like a gun
yeah u unlock other stuff when u unlock that
who are you
come back when you're older (have the gun) and i'll telly ou
aight
merciful end
ty so much
Me stands for merciful end
but that's why we capitalize ME
It’s a duo boon between ares and Athena
Kinda makes sense now
i am gonna try to get that combo on my best run ty
Even better, cause thats all you do with ME
which god do you think i should take for dashing with gloves and fast paced play ?
The duo boon is, that everything you do that deflects automatically activated doom, without having to wait, so you wanna first take ares attack, Athena special then Athena dash and merciful end, the last two can be in whatever order you want iirc
So once you have all that, you just attack dash and repeat
First ares keepsake and hope for Athena boons and then probably also Athena keepsake in asphodel, if you don’t have all boons yet
I Hope I didn’t miss anything
Zeus on attack
For like average runs
Merciful End is hard to get but yeah it's fast.
Tysm for this
I mean, if you just wanna dash around, go tidal dash, Zeus attack, sea storm, and jolted, and as many supporting boons as you can get, you wouldn’t have to do anything other than dash
Yw
Bruh i cant find athena to take the keepsake from her
same here, been looking for her for 5+ runs now lmao
@digital marlin when searching for athena how many gods you end up taking boons from?
You can lock out athena out of a run depending on how many
I think max is 4 or something right ?
Unless you force the game to give you some
which god gives +300 damage to armor already? I forgot
Some weapons have hammers that give that
Also I think arty had smth that improved crits against armor
all weapons do
there's breaching slash/piercing wave, breaching skewer, breaching rush/cshot, piercing volley, breaching cross, and piercing fire
peaver and cshot dont give extra armor damge
but go thru shields
the others give more armor damage tho
"Breaching" hammers
Breaching Cross on the Fists, for example.
thanks guys
|| okay so I have to clear 10 times for the story. I did clear once with Zeus then another clear with Zeus still but with 1 heat, did that count? ||
|| cause in the archive thinggy it says 1 clear for the shield ? ||
Are you sure it was both with shield? Or perhaps god mode?
The clears with god mode are still counted for the epilogue and the total number but aren’t shown for the weapon in the victory screen
Well do you have an ss of the victory screen?
|| I did one regular clear then another with 1 heat I think it was the one that gives bosses one more move ||
I'm on switch btw if that helps
Where does it say that you have two clears?
|| Zag just told his mother about the photography in Hades' room ... it should be my 9th clear? ||
when I pick the shield it says 2 victories
Yea that means you have 9 clears in total and 2 with shield ig
|| just that in the archive room it says one clear with shield idk why ||
What does the archive say about the other weapons? Does it still ad up to 9?
nope it adds up to 8 because only one shield clear instead of 2 as shown in the weapon room
6 with sword, 1 with the gun
and 1 shield
Can you try turning on god mode just in case? Then check the admin room
same thing
|| My first clear ever was with zeus shield, then I did another run with same weapon and heat 1 ||
||Then it now the pact should say that you should increase to heat 2, I mean||
|| Now I picked the shield and went to see the contract, it asks me more than 1 heat for the rewards ||
Welp, I'm lost on how that win dissapeared
|| 2 heats unlocks rewards yes ||
I means story wise you seem on track so it’ll all work out I hope
Yeah it seems only the admin room failed to save the run?
|| telling mommy about the photography in daddy's room is 9th clear yeah? ||
Yea
Iirc yeah
|| I just realised you’re ahead of me already||
Damn
I really shouldn’t challenge myself that hard
dash strike changed my life
|| 32 heat dash only after just 8 clears might not be the smart move ||
|| lmao 32 heats . that stuff is out of reach for me I'm not stronk enough ||
It’s fairly easy
Wait why 
why are you doing meme 32 heat clears lmao
Bc it’s fun and a challenge, I could just gather clears till nowhere but that doesn’t seem as fun as raging over a game, when it’s entirely my fault
Fair
Crank on EM4 if you want a challenge again jajaja
I would have to turn off td for that
I'm still working towards EM4 FO2
|| I just had one clear with 3 heat dash only so I immediately decided it’s time for 32||
I mostly play without TD now that I've farmed most of the bounties, I'm not great with trying to go fast.
True
I mean dash only has the advantage of not getting hit anyway, so as long as I have no hit, and I can still get normal amount of boons, there should be absolutely no worries right?
that's post credits
Like I know UC and TD2 are free heat but I'd still rather play with them off
I think my default loadout is EM3 FO2 MM
Turning it off feels proper clunky now lmao
Yea
I'll walk up to an enemy and go "why aren't you attacking?"
I think it actually makes Jolted worse laaaawl
Dash only is gonna throw everything off for me, I probably will lose muscle memory of everything but it’s fun
And infinite iframes
Well almost
You're doing Splash Dash and Sea Storm right
Yes
It's not like regular fist runs are particularly different
sea storm isnt a major goal for dash only
But jolted?
... beaver?
breaking wave
True, lightning reflex would help, but wouldn’t sea storm do a lot more damage for like Theseus?
sea storm takes an extra pos core an extra zeus core and a duo
true but it's not a bad consolation prize
those pos and zeus boons usually should be something better
Isn't Sea Storm a pretty good payoff in and of itself through
So just splash dash lightning reflex as base, and as many boons that build on them as possible?
it's not guaranteed and you shouldnt really take a boon you're not allowed to use over an important one
right right
You have to grab something to unlock it
I'm guessing dash-only disallows calls too
Could you get splitting bolt without having a Zeus slot boon?
Alright
you need a core for double strike/storm lightning/high votlage
Is it not allowed to have other boons in slots even if you don’t use them?
you can
Alright, thank you
I've never been clear on whether the sea storm bolt triggers splitting bolt
I feel like it should
it does
If it has a lightning it probably triggers
good good
wtf with this Poseidon just gave me more chance to find fishing spots as first boon lmao
like forced, no other choice
Event that happens when you get the fishing rod
Yeah it's not fun lmao
I prefer the run 5 forced Epic call
I was able to Sea Storm into an escape on my new file
Will i unlock something that will make me stronger after i unlock all weapons ?
Les gooo
(assuming you make the right choices generally)
but yeah unlocking the last weapon really opens up the game to more builds and whatnot
regret
|| yooo I just finished the story, thanks for not spoiling me the end. here I thought I would have to fight hades for the 10th time with unlucky rng build 😄 ||
Yw ig, thats what we’re here for after all
Do I need more wins for more story or?
yup
lets go there
Having trouble triggering dash before being hit effects, what’s the actual requirement?
Are you dashing through enemies' attacks?
I think dodging the attacks with the help of iframes counts
As in the Hermes boon, or?
considering there's only so many things that can increase atk speed, there kinda is a limit
although i doubt there is a limit considering how high movement speed can get
Poor thing there isn’t a keepsake like plume for attack speed
It would’ve been so nice
yoo i got the last weapon
have you done a run yet
mid one
just beat the murderrrr girl
meg sis
i think the gun is so bad (just my opinion)
gun is pretty strong but it only has 1 good build and if you dont build it then it's pretty garbage lmao
yoo my boy, i opened the blood thingy to upgrade the weapons i am wondering you figure i should put them on bow or gloves, tbh the gloves upgrades dont seem that much
I’m terms of bow Chiron can be fun but Hera is infinitely better, while Zeus shield is one of the easiest to clear
Fists doesn’t matter much since you’ll always be trying to go with ME
The rail matters since the play style varies, but in the end each is different
i dont like the cast tbh so i think chiron might be better
And sword is sword
Chiron isn’t much better than the usual zag bow
You practically go for the same build, with a little extra poison damage on special
Zeus^2 is a nice build
But you don’t like the shield either do you?
For Chiron you’d try to get the same hammers like zag bow, dash close try to get 2/3 arrows in with one shot and then follow up with a poison special and repeat
While using either splash dash or hunters dash and aphro attack or arty attack
Hope this helps
If you get dio special and aphro attack the duo boon helps a lot, then you can go for arty cast, and the duo boons there increase the crit chance for a about 170 damage cast so that works well too
Fwiw is hard to like casts if you've never done an actual cast build
Cuz you mostly use it to apply boiling blood usually
Also true
Chiron also gets "better" with more levels
Which you kinda can't get as the blood is really limited early on
But technically a hammer already levels it up by quite a bit, but then you’d have less hammers for the actual shot
In the start you might have to apply special twice to get the full poison damage
Lvl 1 chiron + relentless already fills no low tol hangover stacks no
Is relentless +3 arrows or +4
Been a while
4
now i am actually lost, idk what to go with i am not into maining all waepons lol. i just want a quick weapon where i can just keep dashing and kicking ass quickly
If you just want dash strikes then you don’t even need the blood
Just look at the aspect of a weapon you like and try upgrading it
which weapon you suggest
You can also
Look the the pinned guide here on how much power you can expect from each aspect
i use all the weapons same style close range lol just not the bow and rifle
Or unlock the aspect, go into the run and if you don't like it, pause the game and press give up
That reverts your save before you used the blood
For dashing around any aspect or no aspect fists with the ME build would suffice or you could even go for a dash only, it should be easy if you don’t press anything else and just dash
Just don't go into zag bedroom after unlocking or it will save
wow that sounds nice
alright tysm nice tip
i cant find it, i only find blood costs
Yes
tysm
not true, you can use splash dash+zeus attack
True but that also isn’t really aspect depending, I feel like zag fist is best, simply for the extra stats
ive reached just past asterius after 17 escape attempts, is that good?
fair
ive been using the spear with the achilles thing, but i feel like im struggling to work the special into my attacking. any tips?
also any general combat tips?
the special is useless as an attk tool
it's most use is the special effect which buffs ur attk and cast by 150%
well ive upgraded it once so 175% damage
for Achilles the general attk pattern is spec->spec-> dash-strike-> dash-strike
is it 175? I forget
Zag fist????
after the first upgrade
k
no it was 150 which is max
u upgraded once so it should be 75
cast builds are the best for achilles
but you can also take Artemis attk
best hammer is flurry jab
also the spins are bad never use them
unless it's like before the enemies spawn u can charge it and release but never when enemies are near by
oh i thought you meant 150% of standard damage
not 150% increase
yeah its 75% increase for me rn
yeah i got it it was great
yup ive been doing that
it's +150% when fully upgraded
whats that?
k
attack boon given by Artemis
some dmg boost and crit chance
nice
Ye
Demeter
I refuse to use the special of fists
Sounds like a personal problem
Having the DPS burst is nice if ME doesn't work out, and also before it comes online
Yea, but I mean he did want to use mostly dash strikes
is infernal or stygian soul better?
depends on what you're going for
for example if you're doing a ||crystal clarity|| build you want stygian
if you doing ||lighting phalanx|| infernal
but you're just starting out so try both during general gameplay
How fast can the cool-down one (can’t remember which one it is) get?
What about without boons, just from the mirror upgrades?
iirc, 3s at max upgrade
Nice
auto reload is not that great of a boon, but it open hermes legendary Bad News
Bad News is bugged so it increase global damange by 50%
Wow
hypersprint + epic rush delivery is still better
so most people aim for that instead
it only work on enemies without bloodstone inside and 50% is additive, not multiplicative
i wonder why aren't devs fixing bugs in this game
They’re working on h2
Moved to hades 2 + some of them would mess up speedrun leaderboards (beo)
Is not like they were found super early either
just reset all leaderboards >:)
all the good weps have some kind of important bug
achilles not i think
but hestia/eris clockets
hera wallbug
beo obv
what's hera wall bug?
How do I beat ||theseus and the minotaur||?
I use ||coronacht bow|| with ||aspect of charon||
Keep track of the pompous one's location and stay out of line-of-sight from him. While doing that, focus down the gruff one. I don't how much game knowledge you have, but I'll say it also helps to know how to build Chiron effectively so you can kill more quickly, allowing yourself less time for mistakes
If you shoot at an enemy at a certain angle when they’re close to wall/obstacle, your casts will damage the enemy but not stick to them so you can pick them and repeat
|| I generally take drunken flourish, heartbreak strike and true shot ||
ic, that happens when I play hera didn't notice it was bug
Any general combat tips for a new player?
Dashes are very important cause of iframes
Rhythm of play is important. For some weapons you want to get into a cycle like dash-attack-attack-special
But it depends on the weapon.
Experiment, die a lot, have fun.
Hello
Newbie here. I wanna know something about duo boons
To get a duo boon, do I need to have the required boons from two gods then wait for the 'duo boon' boon to show up when picking one?
Or do the required boons need to be at specific rarity?
You just need required boons from the 2 gods
Then wait for them to appear again to have a chance to pick up their duo boon
Regardless of rarity
Oh okay
I thought at first that you will get duo boons immediately once you acquired two boons from diff gods
So rn I have Passion Dash from Aphrodite and Drunken Strike from Dionysus. Does this mean I should wait for the duo boon to appear?
One more question. Based on the example, will the duo boon show up on either gods or only one?
If you meet aphro or dio, it can appear but not guaranteed
Either
Thanks very much
you can also check the duo requirements in the codex and pressing god's boon list
My codex doesn't have entries for boons yet
There are two sections that are named "undiscovered"
is there no entry for olympian gods?
Ah wait there is but no boons yet. "Says learn more by acceptinh boons from..."
There isn't a "press button to show list" at the bottom of the page?
press b
I never remember the trigger for that one
My guess is either getting duos/legendaries or ||meeting demeter||
Does broken spearpoint work for the hades fight?
it'll work as in it will function and do the thing it says on the tin
but for the fight it is far from the best defensive keepsake
you mostly want acorn insteasd
Wait. Right. I meant acorn. The one that ignores first x damage
Ah. I thought the hades fight was the surface. Hahaha
Didn't realise it counted as an underworld region for some reason. I overthink myself
I saw on some videos ppl could reroll their boons, how does that work?
It's a perk from the mirror
How do I know the progress I'm making in the story while I'm playing?
You'll get some progress/new convo for basically anything at the start
For main story outside of "just keep playing/winning" there isn't like any other requisite
I mean during the gameplay, will it tell me I'm in area 1 etc
Area 1 as in....?
My understanding is the game has 4 biomes -- is there an indicator of which biome I'm in?
You always pass to the next biome after the boss of your current one
Oh I see, count the bosses
Yeah
thanks that helps, just wanted to know if I'm going somewhere
As soon as you received the codex you should be able to open it
okay too early then
when buildings (towers) get destroyed around me and rubble falls is that a visual effect or does something happen?
When enemies are nearby they do get damage from that rubble
Or I’m seeing things I shouldn’t be
and do I get damage?
You don’t
good to know will use the buidings to my advantage
Idk but they are rarely worth it, like some occasional splash dash does it, it’d take a lot longer to play in a way that uses the rubble damage, and it’s also just like 25 damage
You’re better off following an attack with a cast
Only time trap dmg matters is if you stack stygian shards from Charon wells
Then its funny
I'm reading and taking mental notes
rest serves no function, like a bed?
I'm assuming the codex will tell me what the objects in the glass globes mean when entering rooms?
yeah trying to figure out things step by step
vs going to a game guide
starting to click -- wow this is fun
does the game auto save per room?
yeah at the start of each chamber
Also at the end of each combat chamber
Oops I noticed right when I was leaving the first battle room I missed something to investigate -- will it still be there?
so going down is similar to dead cells cursed chest
free upgrade + colorless item and puts 10 curse on you
(while cursed you get one shotted by anything, removed by killing enemies)
Cool, sound like hell and hell mode in dmc 5
More variety i guess
I mean is risk reward but similarities stop at that
I'm sure games get inspirations from each other - just like anything
yah true well I'm liking hades better for a few reasons
but one is it's easier with keyboard and mouse
You get a debuff for x chamber then get a buff
but I also like the way everything is alive, not total grind
I feel like I'm part of a story
Face more enemies, hide chamber reward, shorter dash….
In exchange for buff like +1 bloodstone, cast damage, attack damage
yah once you accomplish whatever it says you get the buff?
You can even get a Death Defiance if you’re lucky
yup
death defiance is nice
also they skip a normal encounter from the biome
||you will need it for a prophecy but chaos sure is chaotic||
Took me a while to get it
it tells you how many rooms/encounters you need to clear before the curse if lifted and you get the buff
so it could be like 5 rooms, 3 encounters, etc
ah yah
I think I'll wait a bit before doing that again -- let myself level up etc
key = blueprint?
but how do I keep a key
Key is a meta currency, you keep it after a run
Oh so if I die, I lose it
And key is used to unlock weapon
No, you keep it to unlock the weapon inside the courtyard
darkness/gems/nectar/keys are all kept on death
anything that affects the run itself is lost
(the laurels on the door that show the reward also change color depending on which type)
blue laurel for meta rewards, gold for run only benefits
So in dead cells (sorry for all the comparisons) if I get a blueprint, I only keep it if I finish that biome -- how's the key work in that comparison?
you could die the very next chamber and you keep it
I prefer controller since the autoaim is super generous and the movement is nicer on controller
boons, obol(money), centaur hearts, well of charon items, and hammers do not carry over
the rest does
metacurrencies(darkness, keys, gemstones, etc) in almost every game(dead cells is just different) carry over the moment you get them, meaning you can get some, die in the same room, and still keep the currencies forever.
taking notes. thank you
any sort of currency you see in the house, you keep during runs
anything else is just lost forever lmao
good to keep in mind
"Who's going to clean all of this up?"
- Hades
looks like I unlocked captain america ||ancient shield||
||chaos shield?||
the one you can toss and has 'bull run' ?
yah playing with the ps5 controller is a bit faster than keyboard
either is fine
is it called chaos shield?
shield of chaos
||did you unlocked aspect? there is an aspect of chaos for the shield as well||
they just unlocked shield probably so nah
I don't know it's a shield I can throw and unlocked with a key
I won't click on your spoiler incase it spoils shield of chaos
wow this game gets intense, in all the right ways
if you defeated the furies at least once, you would get what I said
I'm confused about 'call' -- I have a yellow/gold bar on the bottom that is growing
dealing damage/hitting enemies fills up the bar
you can use it at each interval given(generally 25% of the big bar) for a decent effect, like zeus summoning constant lightning.
if you use it at all max charge, youll get a "greater call", which has more than 4x the boost(excluding status effects)
the dead cells equivalent is a skill, but it charges up from dealing damage/hitting enemies
and that's call?
yep
just making sure I understand 🙂
yah the game was advising me to use it
with this shield, cast is kind of not as interesting
pro tip:
never special
Oh? 🤔
Special has its uses, to say never use it is an exaggeration
But trying to use it actively is not recommended on shield
||unless it’s zeus or in some niche case, the hidden aspect of shield||
most builds in the game dont use the cast in their build
some do but the majority do not
some god calls have 5 bars, some have 4
i'm pretty sure at least
Only artemis has 5 bars
never noticed that
One call even has two bars! Probably gets poor reception even outdoors
theres a 0 bar call
the autoaim being generous is situational imo
most of the time it's good, but it sucks if you're trying to aim at a different enemy and the autoaim will refuse to unlock from the one it was already on
and sometimes the rail's special teleports to a different area after shooting it 
only use special if you're using zeus or that other one
Hi guys
I got this game on release but didn't really play it as I hated losing a lot and I was kind of bad at this game. I got into Binding of Isaac recently and I heard Hades 2 is coming out soon, so why not give Hades a try again
Do you guys recommend me to restart my save file
or just continue from where i left off?
i think i only won 1 run ever
You can continue from there or start a fresh file it doesn’t really matter, unless you forgot the story and want to see it again, as for losing a lot, that’s not too bad, and it sometimes takes a lot to clear your first run, and getting used to other weapons
I see, I think I lost like 30 runs before I won my first run
Maybe I can just continue my save file
I need to look up at some tips and tricks video though
I forgot everything about the game
If it makes you feel better, I took 56, but as I said what’s fun is finding more and more builds and getting progressively better
Yes
good news
i won my first run after not playing for 2-3 years, this is my 2nd win
i have a question regarding gun weapons though
i am using a gun weapon and the way the special aims is very weird with controller
is it normal for that to happen when using a range weapon with a controller?
Well iirc the special of the rail is auto aimed, I don’t use it much but just pressing it should be enough
i am not sure but i tend to move left stick as well
Also congrats on the win
should i just not touch my left stick?
I mean you can try just quickly tapping the button and not holding it, that might do it
alright
Just just wanted to ask, what happen to biome reward ||of previous heat If i exceed one or more heat level||?
||the game will always give you heat reward of the lowest tier you haven't done. So if you've beaten heat 5, and then go to heat 10, you will get heat 6 reward. Run after that you would have to do at least 7 to get another reward ||
That actually made me wonder something, ||I kept seeing people give example of heat reward with the range of 5, why so? I just beaten Hades for the 2nd time with heat 1 and when i go to heat 2 for the weapon, new reward is available. Does biome reward given at specific heat level like 5, 10, 15 and so on or is it for every heat level?|| I'm sorry that i can't seem to understand it.
|| every heat level gives same reward ||
||5 is just a nice number :p, there are some rewards for other levels though||
||Then, when you said "...would have to do at least 7..." are talking about runs or heat 7?||
||heat ||
|| if you get reward for 6, then next you would have to do 7, or you could do heat 10 three times and have the same result ||
|| basically it doesn't matter what heat you do as long as it is above the one you did last ||
I see! So i will still get the rewards ||from previous heat if i exceed||. Thanks a bunch! But do i have to clear three times? ||If example i only want Titan blood from the Sisters while in excceding heat of 10, does it give it to me only 1 eventhough from beating them 3 times due to incomplete run or it give all reward from all 3 runs?||
|| you have to complete a run to be eligible for next tier, so no, you can't keep doing just furies ||
Alright. Again, thanks a bunch.
np
yall is there any way to play hades on like a phone or computer
ive heard its console only
Also epic I think idk
When using Hera Bow, is it recommended to stack 3 cast or just use it 1 by 1
generally 3
or like however much it takes to kill them
some stuff would only need 1
but if it's something beefy then you'd rather use all 3
How do you check condition for certain Daedalus' upgrade?
wiki only
https://cpecific.github.io/hades-wiki/ or trough this if you don't wanna deal with fandom
is it just me or is the shield absolutely broken?
well
the base shield without considering hammer upgrades, not so much
defensively it's good but it is also the definition of a wet noodle
whacking people with 25 base damage slow attacks
? idk but it seemed to me to have more dmg than sword
well
base sword also sucks at damag
but you probably dont know the optimal attack rotations
would say I have it figured out quite well by now actually
so what do you do
bought the game barely 2 days ago already 20h lol
dash strike to 3x combo hitting with another dash strike to get behing the enemy right after
🗿
is it that bad 😨
kinda
ouch
you never want to do the standard attack rotation
it's just dash strike x2 into special
repeat
for knockback tho
?
if you want knockback take splash dash
imo its less reliable
u have plenty of time to learn
I still often get the distance wrong and throw them away from the wall or just miss a trap
https://youtu.be/TaZg5yKCi10?t=291 heres an example of rotation
im not that good though
and this is old
I have two boons. One increases the chance of new boons being rare by 12%, the other one by 31%. Do they somehow add up or is only the highest one active?
they add up and those boons also add +10% chance to epic/legendary/duo chances
which is the real boost
the rare boost doesnt rlly matter nearly as much
chaos favor is goated
so the more boons I have that upgrade rarity the better
There's generally better things from chaos tho
I noticed that the last shop before the final boss sometimes offers the same items for two different prices. In my case they had two boons from Athena for 150 and 450 each. Does the price tell me something about the content or is it totally random?
more expensive has increased rarity
||So I got the companion from meg now. 3 hearts are still missing, but I can't give her anything currently.|| Just do more runs and wait for it?
Also thanks to everyone for answering all my questions. Spent a lot of time with the game but still feel like there are tons of things to learn
yeah just keep doing more runs and talking to her. you'll get a scene that allows you to get more hearts
does the heat gauge need to be exact to give you the bounties? have 3 rn but only need 2
hello, i have a trade where i get 200 Gemstones for one Titan Blood, is that a good deal? this is my third run so far
dont have that much playtime myself, but sounds bad to me tbh
gems are easier to get imo
but i could renovate a lot with them
most of that is just cosmetic
LOL misread this that is definetly not worth it
no, theres some non cosmetic stuff like the fountain i think
If you read from here on, I think it answers your question
gemstones are still much easier to get than titan blood
ok, thank you
Also if you ever see the deal pay 15 keys for one titan blood, take it
It’s the best one in the game
???
so it does If I got it right? if I enter with 3 he says I wont get extra bounties tho
You get the bounties for the stage you’re in
If you exceed it
You also only get the one you’re in
And move to the next once you clear
but why does he say I dont get them???
No extra bounties
pretty sure it just means you wont get bonus bounties from only that run, not future ones
oh I see
But you will still get the bounties of the stage you’re in
get it now, thx
Pay 15 keys get one titan blood
OH i thought you meant pay one titan blood for 15 keys i was about to say
Yeah that’d be stupid
native english speaker cannot speak english
Might be my mistake, I should’ve made it clearer
nah ur good lmfao
damn just got my first streak!
Congrats
what is the reason to take gods pride over gods legacy?
if your build doesnt rely on a duo/legendary
isnt legendary > epic?
huh?
most of them have too many prereqs for too little gain
rarities in hades work like this:
common
rare
epic
heroic
legendaries and duos refer to a specific set of boons which require prerequisites to obtain
oh I see, got confused for a second
for example, splitting bolt cannot be obtained as any rarity outside of legendary, and thunder flourish cannot be legendary or duo.
get it now, thanks!
side note:
heroics can only be obtained through effects that upgrade the rarity of existing boons(so one eury effect works, the other doesnt) and replacements(ex: heartbreak flourish can be heroic if replace divine flourish)
but couldnt legenderys be better then? after all there are some ways to upgrade you existing boons
the one boon of demeter for example
why that?
code hard
you only have 2 effects in the game that upgrade existing boons
havent had problems with it so far
it can make your damage random
wat?
yeah there’s a deprecated random damage thing that crop triggers or something
no clue what that means, but I'll just take it as is ig
the fact that it does some randomizing I meant
is it damage variance but the damage is locked at a specific point
btw, whats better, doom or drunk?
hangover's better if your weapon is decently fast(while not being lightspeed like rail or fists) and doesnt work well with merciful end
why shouldnt the weapons be too fast?
hangover has a limit
doom doesnt?
rail or fists do work with hangover but at your point there isn't really a point to run hangover
cuz having a zeus build go crazy is easy
dire misfortune
applying 22000000 stacks of hangover doesnt do better, but with doom it does
more like one good sinergy
makes sense

zeus is prob one of the best lol
just dont like him
His boons are all
well idk how to put it, just not really my playstyle I suppose
with eception of his cast, even tho it doesnt make sense with the weapon I'm mainly using rn
I mean it just depends on your weapon
hes great on things that attack fast(excluding bow special and fist special)
guess so, yea
like idk what kinda playstyle you could have to not make zeus boons work
the bow special only triggers his boons once?
yup
the boon has a cooldown of 0.2 seconds
zeus stuff have an internal cooldown
currently the posidon sword is my fav
with the exit wounds boon
yeahhh that makes sense
sorry for you being the one to mention but really why do people like exit wounds so much
really fun to stack a bunch on a boss or strong enemies and do a million burst dmg with one special
what cast do you usually pick out of curiosity
its like bonus cast damage on bosses/minibosses
artemis with exit wounds, if I dont go for exit wounds either zeus or athene
or drunk guys
now makes sense why you want exit wounds 
forgot his name
dio(nysus)
'xactly
can't really kill with those casts 
phalanx can
was about to edit
well were not instakilling bosses
so its decent damage
really good aoe/parry tho
patchwork
I get exit wounds as an extra thing for builds
just really petty towards "use this as your main source of dmg"
pulling 3 casts out does like 1.5K dmg
thats quite good
500*
with posidons sword*
what kinda global buff you have that exit wounds is doing that much
100 or 120 base per stone
or do you get like a million extra casts
well with good damage boosts and epic+ exit wounds
which ones?
which one was that again?
flood flare
athena's
still, youd need like max butterfly, ruthless, ferocious guard, frenzy, and a whole lot of poms
tfw spanish keyboard
(this is #h1-for-new-players )
still tho
ah yeah, ferocious guard on poseidon sword
most of the time you get it
just assuming the max possible damage
and its a pretty safe build too
should've said eris instead
dont need to get too close
🤦
i mean all the casts are ranged except crush shot really
and you still need to close the distance to special anyways
ig so
super nova it was called iirc?
lunge enjoyers(they go in twice for special and then stones)
the only reason artemis is good is because it leads into her legendary pretty easily
since you need exit wounds for patchwork damage
dash nova but that's a
hammer
certainly one of those
pressure points and support fire kinda just exist
so you're kinda like on the way to get her legendary for more casts and therefore more exit wounds damage lmao
support fire always seemed fun to me, with the first one I agree tho
it's not consistent but it's like your ideal build
fun doesn't mean good lol
it def is more damage, but it's not that meaningful