#h1-for-new-players

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zenith lichen
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swoot

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The keepsake order that's really consistent is taking a god keepsake into Tartarus to start your build right, a secod keepsake into Asphodel to finish your build/get the secondary god you want if you didn't find them in Tartarus, and then you take tooth or acorn or whatever into Ely and Styx

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this is the point where learning what builds work with which weapons really matters

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you also probs want to get far enough into the mirror to unlock Family Favorite, and max out your Death Defiances, Boiling Blood and Infernal Soul as a priority

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as well as Deep Pockets + Thick Skin

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runs will get way easier after that point

neon cedar
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nice I'll work on this tysm guys

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I've been told Bow works best for first clear?

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thinking about investing my titan's blood here

dusty vault
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Everything can work

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If bow is your most comfortable weapon then go for it

zenith lichen
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Shield is really safe for new players because it can block, and when you unlock the fists it's a good basic aspect as well due to the stunlock mechanic

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Bow is definitely a really good weapon tho, so if you like using it, you can put blood into it

ancient dawn
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ნასეტკა სენ

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ნაეტკაააა

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ხარ

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ბიჭო

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არ გამაგიჟოდ

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ნასეტკა

neon cedar
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wow I managed to kill the two bosses with a shield run, what did they just dropped me?

zenith lichen
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Ambrosia

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don't worry about it for now, it'll be more useful later

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It can be traded for Titan Blood at the broker's

broken girder
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It’s probably best that way, ambrosia gets important later, but then you’ll have better ways of farming it (especially since that additional titanblood would help with upgrading weapons)

neon cedar
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|| I'm about to face hades lmao ||

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|| I still have 2 possible death ||

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|| his second form got me, he was at like 15%hp tho ||

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|| I could have killed it? ||

craggy peak
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Do put a spoiler on that

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Don’t want other new players to get spoiled

broken girder
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You could’ve

neon cedar
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I can see I have || 4 upgrades available with titans blood|| do they all activate at once or do I have to choose between those

broken girder
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Each one has a lock that shows how much you need to level up or unlock it

neon cedar
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But if I upgrade the 1st line and the 2nd line do they apply both

broken girder
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You always chose one aspect

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No more no less

neon cedar
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then it's better to focus on one aspect first 😮

cedar delta
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Indeed. And in the pins of this channel there's a little chart showing what you get for your investment per level per aspect

neon cedar
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👍

rich elm
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any tips for the bow? I beat the game with every weapon except for this one. Even struggle with the first fight. Feels like the special deals no damage and the attacks immobilise myself

sweet brook
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Dash strike with the bow

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It'll charge faster and keep you more mobile

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It'll be more like a rhythm game

rich elm
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I thought dashes always release my attack immediately

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at least this is what it feels like

sweet brook
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Dash before you hold attack

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If you dash while charging the attack it'll release the shot

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But still calc the damage as a dash strike, even if you didn't dash into the attack I believe

rich elm
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ah this is how it works

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good to know that I can still make beginner mistakes after so much playtime lol

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I appreciate your help

sweet brook
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You can always practice on skelly btw

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It'll help a lot

rich elm
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yup

leaden whale
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Is it weird that it feels the best to play this game with both controller and mouse at the same time? I have a hard time with movement on a keyboard.

broken girder
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Not too weird, even tho controller should be enough

frozen nymph
leaden whale
frozen nymph
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I only play with a pro Switch controller (but It's more like a mouse problem krkr)

leaden whale
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I can hold the numchuck in one hand

frozen nymph
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I've played with some but have a very bad coordination so It's complicated asf

neon cedar
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|| yay first clear ! with zeus shield, 23 tries 🌼 ||

broken girder
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That’s fast

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Congrats

neon cedar
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only succeeded with your advices guys 😄

broken girder
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You would’ve eventually, we just sped up the progress a bit

neon cedar
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Is there any way to see how many hours I've played? (switch version)

broken girder
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Perhaps there’s a stat menu on the switch that says how much you played each game, in game you can only see the amount of tries I think

neon cedar
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then it's more than 10 hours but less than 15

naive bear
naive bear
broken girder
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Zeus^2

naive bear
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I also use zeus shield I'm just ass

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This is a stupid question but does the hades 2 trailer have spoilers for hades 1

broken girder
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Probably not

naive bear
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Phew

broken girder
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Well the advantage of doing it for the first time is having as much time as you need, make it a one hour run, if doesn’t matter that much, take your time and you can do that very good with the Zeus shield

broken girder
zenith lichen
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Honestly Zeus is the shield I'm worst with

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High skill ceiling and all that

broken girder
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I always Zeus the wrong way

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Throw call back, and let it follow you while you dash through the map

final dune
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i was apprehensive about it but ive dedicated myself to it for a few days and its actually really fun

cedar spade
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zeus is like a yoyo

broken girder
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Talos too ig

cedar spade
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talos I dislike

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it feels like the magnetic oull is nuff

leaden whale
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Are there any Mirror loadout you guys can recommend?

final dune
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the general one is

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the flipped ones being fiery presence, family favorites, dark foresight, fated persuasion

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so in order it's like fiery presence, cthonic vitality, death defiance, greater reflex, boiling blood, infernal soul, deep pockets, thick skin, family favorites, dark foresight, god's pride, fated persuasion

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the ones which there are reasons to switch sometimes are fiery presence to shadow presence, death defiance to stubborn defiance, infernal soul to stygian soul, thick skin to high confidence, and occasionally god's pride to god's legacy

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stuff for which the reasons to switch round to 0 are dark foresight, ruthless reflex, abyssal blood, golden touch, privileged status, olympian favor, and fated authority

leaden whale
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i didnt think fiery presence would be generally desirable than shadow presence

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then again i never focus enough on hitting behind enemies

final dune
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most of the time fiery presence is better

leaden whale
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thanks for that i really appreciate it

final dune
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np

leaden whale
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which keepsake should i look towards getting?

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i only have 4 so far

final dune
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god keepsakes, charon, eurydice are the most important generally

stoic raven
broken girder
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Anytime

mossy pine
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Hmm, whats a good amount of attempts to reach hades for the first time?

wooden dirge
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how ever many times it may take

leaden whale
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Is the spear spin move good for anything or do you just spam light attacks

echo prawn
leaden whale
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Cause the little ones swarm you really quick

echo prawn
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yeah pretty much

leaden whale
echo prawn
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me with the ||gauntlets||

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shield is for my slow runs

leaden whale
leaden whale
echo prawn
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the gun is okay

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i cant stand bow

leaden whale
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pact?

echo prawn
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ah

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ignore

leaden whale
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Ok lol

echo prawn
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hows your runs going?

regal ether
broken girder
regal ether
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thats just me tho

broken girder
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And even then flurry jab is still better

regal ether
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but dont just mash attack either, try to strategize. especially with achilles’ spear.

weak burrow
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Or serrated

regal ether
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op frfr

mossy pine
broken girder
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That’s really good

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Few have I think

meager jacinth
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Hi, I just buy Hades with the original sountrack and I want to know if I have to do something to activate it in my files of not

neon cedar
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You guys always clear every run? 😮

meager jacinth
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Epic games

cedar delta
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@meager jacinth, check your library for a separate OST download

meager jacinth
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and that's all ?

cedar delta
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Do a handstand, then transition into a cartwheel!

neon cedar
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why has no one taught me about dash+attack at the same time lmao it's so much easier now

sweet brook
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doesn't it tell you about that in the courtyard with skelly lmao

neon cedar
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I'm only learning this after 12 + hours and two clears lmao

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this feels like playing easy mode now

wooden dirge
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yeah there's a moves guide in top left everytime you equip an aspect

neon cedar
neon cedar
wooden dirge
neon cedar
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yeah but dash strike is so much more OP

wooden dirge
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I mean it still counts as dash strike(until the time window) after u dash and attk

neon cedar
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it spams much faster with both at the same time

wooden dirge
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u don't have to press them both at the same time

neon cedar
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I had that boon with Athena that reflected projectiles I was literally just spamming dash strike lol

wooden dirge
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also dash strike make u lose i-frames u get from dashes so be careful

sweet brook
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delaying dash strikes let you keep some iframes before you attack so it's worth trying

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you can also "reach" farther with delayed dash strikes

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for the melee weapons at least

dire nebula
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I can't seem to defeat Theseus and that Bull

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only managed it once with the spear

weak burrow
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try again

dire nebula
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that is good advice

neon cedar
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and avoid theseus arrows when they target on u

stoic raven
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tldr cower in fear behind a wall

broken girder
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Or abuse I frames

dire nebula
stoic raven
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look at theseus' position, and then imagine a line between zag and theseus, then try to get a wall between the 2

broken girder
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And damage the bull

lost tendon
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What non Artemis and Hermès boons are good for cast builds

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?

restive portal
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Zeus,Poseidon, Aphrodite cast boons are good, but they play differently to each other.

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Dionysius also good, especially if you can pick up scintillating feast.

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Sea storm with Poseidon cast similarly good.

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And there's always Demeter and crystal beam.

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So lots of choice for good cast builds depending on your play style

dusty vault
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I think they meant like support boons for cast builds

restive portal
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Oh

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Then it would depend on what cast they have or are planning.

sweet brook
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chaos lmao

restive portal
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Cast builds are mostly powered up by some duo boon or god specific boon.

sweet brook
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but for cast centric builds, nothing else is really useful other than like hyper delivery from hermes

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mirage shot is fine, just not worth going for most of the time unless you rng into it naturally

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hunting blades and lightning phalanx are great duo builds

restive portal
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And chaos giving bonus casts etc.

sweet brook
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kinda just depends on what kind of cast build you want to run

restive portal
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Sea storm razor shoals jolted is great, scintillating feast jolted double strike also.

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But none of that's support really, it's the primary aim.

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Sea storm is good since you can get it on everything (I know dash won't enable it but it still works if you get it)

lost tendon
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Thanks :)

rich elm
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||How often do I have to beat the game to see the entire story?||

dusty vault
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10 runs for credits, then epilogue which depends on different factors

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And that's only main story

rich elm
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I see. thank you for the answer

zinc epoch
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Is there option to make the satyr sack always appears in the second tunnel you pick?
It's been like this for me for many runs

broken girder
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Only through the speedrun mod, you mad have good luck

zinc epoch
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literally like I've accidentally set some kind of setting

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it's like this for many days with many runs

broken girder
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Well if you don’t have the mod, you shouldn’t complain

zinc epoch
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I just find it's weird

broken girder
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I’m sure you’ll miss it soon enough

proven pivot
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^

dusty vault
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2 sack is like a 52% chance to happen

stoic raven
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i feel pretty happy about my recent luck then in that case
last 4 fishes have all been rares(none were perfects), and ive gotten 2sack 3-4 times in a row

cant wait for it to be broken now

neon cedar
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I unlocked || fishing || how does that work lmao

dusty vault
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Look for glowing spot in a chamber > interact > wait for blob to fully sink (has a white flash along it) > press interact. Can deliver fish to the cook in the house, rewards depends on rarity of fish/where you got it

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If a chamber has a fishing spot there's also a ding sound either at the start or end of the chamber

neon cedar
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tysm

digital marlin
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yoo

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is there any condition to meat athena ?

broken girder
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Yo

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No, but if you want to meet her quicker you can use the keepsake

digital marlin
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thats the problem i wanna met her to get the keepsake

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lol

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i think she has the best dash boon right ?

broken girder
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Depends

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Poseidon/arty can be better depending on the build

digital marlin
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yeah i am bad at doing a good build but i hate searching for ones online too

dusty vault
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Has spoilers for the hidden aspects and maybe 2 post credit keepsakes though

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The short version for most is
Slow weapon, big dmg = grab some % boon
Fast but weak = go flat dmg like zeus or dio

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And once you get the codex upgrade to see the boon list you can start aiming for more specifics

digital marlin
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i still dont know which weapon to go with lmao

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i just like fast stuff like the gloves

dusty vault
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Whatever's fun for you works well

digital marlin
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you reckon i can finish the game without going with online builds just rolling my own ??

dusty vault
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Yup

digital marlin
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nice

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i hate the damn butterflys

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lmao

dusty vault
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My first win was by looking at a duo boon in the codex and just aiming to get it lmao

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Ended up winning

zenith lichen
digital marlin
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bow is fun for range

final dune
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sword and fists fastest thanthink

broken girder
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Well in terms of attack not time

digital marlin
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yeah thats what i think lol

broken girder
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Even tho flurry jab

digital marlin
broken girder
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If you wanna use fists, than the best thing to do is probably me

final dune
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i cant meaningfully answer the fastest weapon question until ur further in the game

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well

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unless u have all the weapons unlocked

digital marlin
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i am saving to unlock the last weapon which looks like a gun

final dune
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yeah u unlock other stuff when u unlock that

final dune
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come back when you're older (have the gun) and i'll telly ou

final dune
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ME

digital marlin
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aight

final dune
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merciful end

digital marlin
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ty so much

broken girder
final dune
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but that's why we capitalize ME

broken girder
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It’s a duo boon between ares and Athena

broken girder
digital marlin
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ooo sounds nice

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i really just love dashing around and hitting all the time lmao

digital marlin
broken girder
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Even better, cause thats all you do with ME

digital marlin
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which god do you think i should take for dashing with gloves and fast paced play ?

broken girder
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The duo boon is, that everything you do that deflects automatically activated doom, without having to wait, so you wanna first take ares attack, Athena special then Athena dash and merciful end, the last two can be in whatever order you want iirc

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So once you have all that, you just attack dash and repeat

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First ares keepsake and hope for Athena boons and then probably also Athena keepsake in asphodel, if you don’t have all boons yet

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I Hope I didn’t miss anything

zenith lichen
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For like average runs

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Merciful End is hard to get but yeah it's fast.

digital marlin
broken girder
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I mean, if you just wanna dash around, go tidal dash, Zeus attack, sea storm, and jolted, and as many supporting boons as you can get, you wouldn’t have to do anything other than dash

broken girder
digital marlin
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Bruh i cant find athena to take the keepsake from her

neon cedar
dusty vault
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@digital marlin when searching for athena how many gods you end up taking boons from?

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You can lock out athena out of a run depending on how many

digital marlin
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I think max is 4 or something right ?

dusty vault
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Yup

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Once 4 gods are taken those get locked in

broken girder
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Unless you force the game to give you some

neon cedar
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which god gives +300 damage to armor already? I forgot

broken girder
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Some weapons have hammers that give that

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Also I think arty had smth that improved crits against armor

final dune
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all weapons do

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there's breaching slash/piercing wave, breaching skewer, breaching rush/cshot, piercing volley, breaching cross, and piercing fire

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peaver and cshot dont give extra armor damge

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but go thru shields

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the others give more armor damage tho

zenith lichen
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Breaching Cross on the Fists, for example.

neon cedar
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thanks guys

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|| okay so I have to clear 10 times for the story. I did clear once with Zeus then another clear with Zeus still but with 1 heat, did that count? ||

broken girder
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Yes

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It doesn’t matter as long as you clear

neon cedar
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|| cause in the archive thinggy it says 1 clear for the shield ? ||

broken girder
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Are you sure it was both with shield? Or perhaps god mode?

neon cedar
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in my weapon room says 2 clears

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what's with god mode?

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it wasn't with god mode btw

broken girder
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Well do you have an ss of the victory screen?

neon cedar
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|| I did one regular clear then another with 1 heat I think it was the one that gives bosses one more move ||

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I'm on switch btw if that helps

broken girder
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Where does it say that you have two clears?

neon cedar
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|| Zag just told his mother about the photography in Hades' room ... it should be my 9th clear? ||

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when I pick the shield it says 2 victories

broken girder
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Yea that means you have 9 clears in total and 2 with shield ig

neon cedar
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|| just that in the archive room it says one clear with shield idk why ||

broken girder
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What does the archive say about the other weapons? Does it still ad up to 9?

neon cedar
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nope it adds up to 8 because only one shield clear instead of 2 as shown in the weapon room

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6 with sword, 1 with the gun

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and 1 shield

dusty vault
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Can you try turning on god mode just in case? Then check the admin room

dusty vault
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Huh

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||The pact does say that you should be in heat 2 now right||

neon cedar
dusty vault
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||Then it now the pact should say that you should increase to heat 2, I mean||

neon cedar
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|| Now I picked the shield and went to see the contract, it asks me more than 1 heat for the rewards ||

dusty vault
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Welp, I'm lost on how that win dissapeared

neon cedar
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|| 2 heats unlocks rewards yes ||

broken girder
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I means story wise you seem on track so it’ll all work out I hope

dusty vault
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Yeah it seems only the admin room failed to save the run?

neon cedar
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|| telling mommy about the photography in daddy's room is 9th clear yeah? ||

broken girder
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Yea

dusty vault
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Iirc yeah

broken girder
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|| I just realised you’re ahead of me already||

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Damn

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I really shouldn’t challenge myself that hard

neon cedar
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dash strike changed my life

broken girder
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|| 32 heat dash only after just 8 clears might not be the smart move ||

neon cedar
broken girder
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It’s fairly easy

zenith lichen
broken girder
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Bc it’s fun and a challenge, I could just gather clears till nowhere but that doesn’t seem as fun as raging over a game, when it’s entirely my fault

dusty vault
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Fair

zenith lichen
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Crank on EM4 if you want a challenge again jajaja

broken girder
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I would have to turn off td for that

zenith lichen
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I'm still working towards EM4 FO2

broken girder
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|| I just had one clear with 3 heat dash only so I immediately decided it’s time for 32||

zenith lichen
broken girder
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True

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I mean dash only has the advantage of not getting hit anyway, so as long as I have no hit, and I can still get normal amount of boons, there should be absolutely no worries right?

dusty vault
zenith lichen
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Like I know UC and TD2 are free heat but I'd still rather play with them off

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I think my default loadout is EM3 FO2 MM

broken girder
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I’m not sure but FO seems free

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so did hs so I should probably shut up

zenith lichen
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Turning it off feels proper clunky now lmao

broken girder
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Yea

zenith lichen
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I'll walk up to an enemy and go "why aren't you attacking?"

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I think it actually makes Jolted worse laaaawl

broken girder
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Dash only is gonna throw everything off for me, I probably will lose muscle memory of everything but it’s fun

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And infinite iframes

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Well almost

zenith lichen
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You're doing Splash Dash and Sea Storm right

broken girder
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Yes

zenith lichen
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It's not like regular fist runs are particularly different

final dune
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sea storm isnt a major goal for dash only

broken girder
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But jolted?

final dune
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u want razor shoals, lightning reflexes, jolted, beaver

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etc

zenith lichen
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... beaver?

final dune
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breaking wave

zenith lichen
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ah lmao

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Y'all are just describing Eris runs without the Eris

broken girder
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True, lightning reflex would help, but wouldn’t sea storm do a lot more damage for like Theseus?

final dune
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not rlly

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its not like ur going for LR on eris

final dune
zenith lichen
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true but it's not a bad consolation prize

final dune
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those pos and zeus boons usually should be something better

zenith lichen
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Isn't Sea Storm a pretty good payoff in and of itself through

final dune
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i mean yeah

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but like

broken girder
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So just splash dash lightning reflex as base, and as many boons that build on them as possible?

final dune
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it's not guaranteed and you shouldnt really take a boon you're not allowed to use over an important one

zenith lichen
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right right

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You have to grab something to unlock it

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I'm guessing dash-only disallows calls too

broken girder
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Could you get splitting bolt without having a Zeus slot boon?

final dune
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you could i believe

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no

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you could not

broken girder
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Alright

final dune
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you need a core for double strike/storm lightning/high votlage

broken girder
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Is it not allowed to have other boons in slots even if you don’t use them?

final dune
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you can

broken girder
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Alright, thank you

zenith lichen
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I've never been clear on whether the sea storm bolt triggers splitting bolt

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I feel like it should

final dune
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it does

broken girder
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If it has a lightning it probably triggers

zenith lichen
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good good

neon cedar
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wtf with this Poseidon just gave me more chance to find fishing spots as first boon lmao

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like forced, no other choice

dusty vault
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Event that happens when you get the fishing rod

zenith lichen
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Yeah it's not fun lmao

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I prefer the run 5 forced Epic call

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I was able to Sea Storm into an escape on my new file

digital marlin
broken girder
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Yes

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A lot stronger

digital marlin
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Les gooo

sweet brook
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(assuming you make the right choices generally)

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but yeah unlocking the last weapon really opens up the game to more builds and whatnot

broken girder
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regret

neon cedar
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|| yooo I just finished the story, thanks for not spoiling me the end. here I thought I would have to fight hades for the 10th time with unlucky rng build 😄 ||

broken girder
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Yw ig, thats what we’re here for after all

neon cedar
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Do I need more wins for more story or?

zenith lichen
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yup

broken girder
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Not necessarily

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Just

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We should switch to the normal hades chat btw

neon cedar
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lets go there

lost tendon
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Having trouble triggering dash before being hit effects, what’s the actual requirement?

cedar delta
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Are you dashing through enemies' attacks?

broken girder
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I think dodging the attacks with the help of iframes counts

broken girder
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Is there any limit to speed?

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Attack speed

zenith lichen
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As in the Hermes boon, or?

sweet brook
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considering there's only so many things that can increase atk speed, there kinda is a limit

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although i doubt there is a limit considering how high movement speed can get

broken girder
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Poor thing there isn’t a keepsake like plume for attack speed

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It would’ve been so nice

digital marlin
final dune
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have you done a run yet

digital marlin
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mid one

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just beat the murderrrr girl

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meg sis

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i think the gun is so bad (just my opinion)

sweet brook
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gun is pretty strong but it only has 1 good build and if you dont build it then it's pretty garbage lmao

digital marlin
# broken girder A lot stronger

yoo my boy, i opened the blood thingy to upgrade the weapons i am wondering you figure i should put them on bow or gloves, tbh the gloves upgrades dont seem that much

broken girder
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I’m terms of bow Chiron can be fun but Hera is infinitely better, while Zeus shield is one of the easiest to clear

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Fists doesn’t matter much since you’ll always be trying to go with ME

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The rail matters since the play style varies, but in the end each is different

digital marlin
#

i dont like the cast tbh so i think chiron might be better

broken girder
#

And sword is sword

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Chiron isn’t much better than the usual zag bow

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You practically go for the same build, with a little extra poison damage on special

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Zeus^2 is a nice build

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But you don’t like the shield either do you?

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For Chiron you’d try to get the same hammers like zag bow, dash close try to get 2/3 arrows in with one shot and then follow up with a poison special and repeat

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While using either splash dash or hunters dash and aphro attack or arty attack

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Hope this helps

#

If you get dio special and aphro attack the duo boon helps a lot, then you can go for arty cast, and the duo boons there increase the crit chance for a about 170 damage cast so that works well too

dusty vault
#

Fwiw is hard to like casts if you've never done an actual cast build

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Cuz you mostly use it to apply boiling blood usually

broken girder
#

Also true

dusty vault
#

Chiron also gets "better" with more levels

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Which you kinda can't get as the blood is really limited early on

broken girder
#

But technically a hammer already levels it up by quite a bit, but then you’d have less hammers for the actual shot

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In the start you might have to apply special twice to get the full poison damage

dusty vault
#

Lvl 1 chiron + relentless already fills no low tol hangover stacks no

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Is relentless +3 arrows or +4

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Been a while

broken girder
#

4

digital marlin
dusty vault
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Lvl 2 chiron should work fine assuming you get the hammer then

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Big on assuming tho

broken girder
#

If you just want dash strikes then you don’t even need the blood

dusty vault
digital marlin
dusty vault
#

You can also
Look the the pinned guide here on how much power you can expect from each aspect

digital marlin
dusty vault
#

Or unlock the aspect, go into the run and if you don't like it, pause the game and press give up

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That reverts your save before you used the blood

broken girder
#

For dashing around any aspect or no aspect fists with the ME build would suffice or you could even go for a dash only, it should be easy if you don’t press anything else and just dash

dusty vault
#

Just don't go into zag bedroom after unlocking or it will save

digital marlin
digital marlin
broken girder
#

Second pin

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The letter stands for the rank

digital marlin
#

oh okey my bad

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S top tier right ?

broken girder
#

Yes

digital marlin
#

tysm

proven pivot
broken girder
#

True but that also isn’t really aspect depending, I feel like zag fist is best, simply for the extra stats

vital coral
#

ive reached just past asterius after 17 escape attempts, is that good?

broken girder
#

The number is never important

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As long as you make it

vital coral
#

fair

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ive been using the spear with the achilles thing, but i feel like im struggling to work the special into my attacking. any tips?

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also any general combat tips?

wooden dirge
#

the special is useless as an attk tool

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it's most use is the special effect which buffs ur attk and cast by 150%

vital coral
#

well ive upgraded it once so 175% damage

wooden dirge
#

for Achilles the general attk pattern is spec->spec-> dash-strike-> dash-strike

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is it 175? I forget

vital coral
wooden dirge
#

no it was 150 which is max

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u upgraded once so it should be 75

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cast builds are the best for achilles

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but you can also take Artemis attk

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best hammer is flurry jab

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also the spins are bad never use them

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unless it's like before the enemies spawn u can charge it and release but never when enemies are near by

vital coral
#

oh i thought you meant 150% of standard damage

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not 150% increase

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yeah its 75% increase for me rn

vital coral
wooden dirge
#

it's +150% when fully upgraded

vital coral
vital coral
wooden dirge
#

attack boon given by Artemis

vital coral
#

k

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what does it do?

wooden dirge
#

some dmg boost and crit chance

vital coral
#

nice

broken girder
zenith lichen
#

Demeter

broken girder
#

I refuse to use the special of fists

zenith lichen
#

Sounds like a personal problem

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Having the DPS burst is nice if ME doesn't work out, and also before it comes online

broken girder
#

Yea, but I mean he did want to use mostly dash strikes

vital coral
#

is infernal or stygian soul better?

wooden dirge
#

depends on what you're going for

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for example if you're doing a ||crystal clarity|| build you want stygian

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if you doing ||lighting phalanx|| infernal

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but you're just starting out so try both during general gameplay

vital coral
#

How fast can the cool-down one (can’t remember which one it is) get?

still nacelle
#

2s with heroic auto reload

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2.25s with rare since heroic hermes boon is kinda rare

vital coral
#

What about without boons, just from the mirror upgrades?

still nacelle
#

iirc, 3s at max upgrade

vital coral
#

Nice

still nacelle
#

auto reload is not that great of a boon, but it open hermes legendary Bad News

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Bad News is bugged so it increase global damange by 50%

vital coral
#

Wow

still nacelle
#

hypersprint + epic rush delivery is still better

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so most people aim for that instead

still nacelle
swift aspen
#

i wonder why aren't devs fixing bugs in this game

broken girder
#

They’re working on h2

dusty vault
#

Moved to hades 2 + some of them would mess up speedrun leaderboards (beo)

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Is not like they were found super early either

swift aspen
#

just reset all leaderboards >:)

final dune
#

all the good weps have some kind of important bug

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achilles not i think

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but hestia/eris clockets

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hera wallbug

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beo obv

wooden dirge
#

what's hera wall bug?

tall lance
#

How do I beat ||theseus and the minotaur||?

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I use ||coronacht bow|| with ||aspect of charon||

cedar delta
#

Keep track of the pompous one's location and stay out of line-of-sight from him. While doing that, focus down the gruff one. I don't how much game knowledge you have, but I'll say it also helps to know how to build Chiron effectively so you can kill more quickly, allowing yourself less time for mistakes

viscid notch
# wooden dirge what's hera wall bug?

If you shoot at an enemy at a certain angle when they’re close to wall/obstacle, your casts will damage the enemy but not stick to them so you can pick them and repeat

tall lance
wooden dirge
vital coral
#

Any general combat tips for a new player?

broken girder
#

Dashes are very important cause of iframes

restive portal
#

Rhythm of play is important. For some weapons you want to get into a cycle like dash-attack-attack-special

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But it depends on the weapon.

#

Experiment, die a lot, have fun.

manic tide
#

Hello
Newbie here. I wanna know something about duo boons
To get a duo boon, do I need to have the required boons from two gods then wait for the 'duo boon' boon to show up when picking one?
Or do the required boons need to be at specific rarity?

still nacelle
#

You just need required boons from the 2 gods

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Then wait for them to appear again to have a chance to pick up their duo boon

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Regardless of rarity

manic tide
#

Oh okay
I thought at first that you will get duo boons immediately once you acquired two boons from diff gods
So rn I have Passion Dash from Aphrodite and Drunken Strike from Dionysus. Does this mean I should wait for the duo boon to appear?

One more question. Based on the example, will the duo boon show up on either gods or only one?

still nacelle
manic tide
#

Thanks very much

wooden dirge
#

you can also check the duo requirements in the codex and pressing god's boon list

manic tide
wooden dirge
#

is there no entry for olympian gods?

manic tide
#

Ah wait there is but no boons yet. "Says learn more by acceptinh boons from..."

dusty vault
#

There isn't a "press button to show list" at the bottom of the page?

wooden dirge
#

press b

dusty vault
#

Check your work orders

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Remember is an upgrade

manic tide
#

Oh wait it's an upgrade

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Make sense

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I'm still not far enough

dusty vault
#

I never remember the trigger for that one

#

My guess is either getting duos/legendaries or ||meeting demeter||

twilit temple
#

Does broken spearpoint work for the hades fight?

final dune
#

it'll work as in it will function and do the thing it says on the tin

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but for the fight it is far from the best defensive keepsake

#

you mostly want acorn insteasd

twilit temple
#

Wait. Right. I meant acorn. The one that ignores first x damage

final dune
#

yes why wouldn’t it

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it’s a boss fight

twilit temple
#

Ah. I thought the hades fight was the surface. Hahaha

#

Didn't realise it counted as an underworld region for some reason. I overthink myself

neon cedar
#

I saw on some videos ppl could reroll their boons, how does that work?

cedar delta
#

It's a perk from the mirror

leaden whale
#

How do I know the progress I'm making in the story while I'm playing?

dusty vault
#

You'll get some progress/new convo for basically anything at the start

#

For main story outside of "just keep playing/winning" there isn't like any other requisite

leaden whale
#

I mean during the gameplay, will it tell me I'm in area 1 etc

dusty vault
#

Area 1 as in....?

leaden whale
#

My understanding is the game has 4 biomes -- is there an indicator of which biome I'm in?

dusty vault
#

You always pass to the next biome after the boss of your current one

leaden whale
#

Oh I see, count the bosses

dusty vault
#

Yeah

leaden whale
#

thanks that helps, just wanted to know if I'm going somewhere

leaden whale
#

I can't seem to open the codex or boons

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well codex in the main lobby

dusty vault
#

As soon as you received the codex you should be able to open it

leaden whale
#

okay too early then

#

when buildings (towers) get destroyed around me and rubble falls is that a visual effect or does something happen?

broken girder
#

When enemies are nearby they do get damage from that rubble

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Or I’m seeing things I shouldn’t be

final dune
#

they do

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you can also get stuck on them

leaden whale
#

and do I get damage?

broken girder
#

You don’t

leaden whale
#

good to know will use the buidings to my advantage

broken girder
#

Idk but they are rarely worth it, like some occasional splash dash does it, it’d take a lot longer to play in a way that uses the rubble damage, and it’s also just like 25 damage

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You’re better off following an attack with a cast

dusty vault
#

Only time trap dmg matters is if you stack stygian shards from Charon wells

#

Then its funny

leaden whale
#

I'm reading and taking mental notes

#

rest serves no function, like a bed?

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I'm assuming the codex will tell me what the objects in the glass globes mean when entering rooms?

broken girder
#

You kinda figure that out on your own

#

But ig you can look it up in the codex

leaden whale
#

yeah trying to figure out things step by step

#

vs going to a game guide

#

starting to click -- wow this is fun

leaden whale
#

does the game auto save per room?

dusty vault
#

yeah at the start of each chamber

cedar delta
#

Also at the end of each combat chamber

leaden whale
#

perfect

#

it's a good working multitasking game 🙂

leaden whale
#

Oops I noticed right when I was leaving the first battle room I missed something to investigate -- will it still be there?

broken girder
#

Yes

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They don’t go away

leaden whale
#

great -- I'm sort of a completionist

#

so much story in the game, it's neat

leaden whale
#

so going down is similar to dead cells cursed chest

still nacelle
#

You mean chaos gate?

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And what does cursed chest do in dead cells?

dusty vault
#

free upgrade + colorless item and puts 10 curse on you

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(while cursed you get one shotted by anything, removed by killing enemies)

still nacelle
#

Cool, sound like hell and hell mode in dmc 5

leaden whale
#

chaos gate, that's it

#

similar?

still nacelle
#

More variety i guess

dusty vault
#

I mean is risk reward but similarities stop at that

leaden whale
#

I'm sure games get inspirations from each other - just like anything

#

yah true well I'm liking hades better for a few reasons

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but one is it's easier with keyboard and mouse

still nacelle
#

You get a debuff for x chamber then get a buff

leaden whale
#

but I also like the way everything is alive, not total grind

#

I feel like I'm part of a story

still nacelle
#

Face more enemies, hide chamber reward, shorter dash….

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In exchange for buff like +1 bloodstone, cast damage, attack damage

leaden whale
#

yah once you accomplish whatever it says you get the buff?

still nacelle
#

You can even get a Death Defiance if you’re lucky

dusty vault
#

yup

leaden whale
#

death defiance is nice

dusty vault
#

also they skip a normal encounter from the biome

still nacelle
#

Took me a while to get it

sweet brook
#

so it could be like 5 rooms, 3 encounters, etc

leaden whale
#

ah yah

#

I think I'll wait a bit before doing that again -- let myself level up etc

#

key = blueprint?

#

but how do I keep a key

still nacelle
#

Key is a meta currency, you keep it after a run

leaden whale
#

Oh so if I die, I lose it

still nacelle
#

And key is used to unlock weapon

still nacelle
dusty vault
#

darkness/gems/nectar/keys are all kept on death

#

anything that affects the run itself is lost

#

(the laurels on the door that show the reward also change color depending on which type)

#

blue laurel for meta rewards, gold for run only benefits

leaden whale
#

So in dead cells (sorry for all the comparisons) if I get a blueprint, I only keep it if I finish that biome -- how's the key work in that comparison?

dusty vault
#

you could die the very next chamber and you keep it

leaden whale
#

oh great

#

Do you prefer controller or keyboard/mouse?

final dune
#

either is fine

#

use what you’re more comfortable with

cedar delta
#

I prefer controller since the autoaim is super generous and the movement is nicer on controller

stoic raven
# leaden whale Oh so if I die, I lose it

boons, obol(money), centaur hearts, well of charon items, and hammers do not carry over
the rest does

metacurrencies(darkness, keys, gemstones, etc) in almost every game(dead cells is just different) carry over the moment you get them, meaning you can get some, die in the same room, and still keep the currencies forever.

sweet brook
#

any sort of currency you see in the house, you keep during runs

#

anything else is just lost forever lmao

leaden whale
#

good to keep in mind

cedar delta
#

"Who's going to clean all of this up?"
- Hades

leaden whale
#

looks like I unlocked captain america ||ancient shield||

still nacelle
#

||chaos shield?||

leaden whale
#

the one you can toss and has 'bull run' ?

#

yah playing with the ps5 controller is a bit faster than keyboard

final dune
#

either is fine

leaden whale
#

is it called chaos shield?

still nacelle
#

shield of chaos

#

||did you unlocked aspect? there is an aspect of chaos for the shield as well||

dusty vault
#

they just unlocked shield probably so nah

leaden whale
#

I don't know it's a shield I can throw and unlocked with a key

#

I won't click on your spoiler incase it spoils shield of chaos

#

wow this game gets intense, in all the right ways

still nacelle
#

if you defeated the furies at least once, you would get what I said

leaden whale
#

I'm confused about 'call' -- I have a yellow/gold bar on the bottom that is growing

stoic raven
#

the dead cells equivalent is a skill, but it charges up from dealing damage/hitting enemies

leaden whale
#

and that's call?

stoic raven
#

yep

leaden whale
#

okay cool appreciate

#

and the bottom flaming stuff is the build up?

stoic raven
#

yep

#

it lights on fire every 25%

leaden whale
#

just making sure I understand 🙂

#

yah the game was advising me to use it

#

with this shield, cast is kind of not as interesting

stoic raven
#

pro tip:
never special

leaden whale
#

Oh? 🤔

still nacelle
#

Special has its uses, to say never use it is an exaggeration

#

But trying to use it actively is not recommended on shield

#

||unless it’s zeus or in some niche case, the hidden aspect of shield||

sweet brook
#

most builds in the game dont use the cast in their build

#

some do but the majority do not

sweet brook
#

i'm pretty sure at least

dusty vault
#

Only artemis has 5 bars

stoic raven
#

never noticed thatbouldy

cedar delta
#

One call even has two bars! Probably gets poor reception even outdoors

stoic raven
#

theres a 0 bar callsquirtheh

regal ether
#

most of the time it's good, but it sucks if you're trying to aim at a different enemy and the autoaim will refuse to unlock from the one it was already on

#

and sometimes the rail's special teleports to a different area after shooting it dusa

regal ether
bitter cairn
#

Hi guys

#

I got this game on release but didn't really play it as I hated losing a lot and I was kind of bad at this game. I got into Binding of Isaac recently and I heard Hades 2 is coming out soon, so why not give Hades a try again

#

Do you guys recommend me to restart my save file

#

or just continue from where i left off?

#

i think i only won 1 run ever

broken girder
#

You can continue from there or start a fresh file it doesn’t really matter, unless you forgot the story and want to see it again, as for losing a lot, that’s not too bad, and it sometimes takes a lot to clear your first run, and getting used to other weapons

bitter cairn
#

Maybe I can just continue my save file

#

I need to look up at some tips and tricks video though

#

I forgot everything about the game

broken girder
#

If it makes you feel better, I took 56, but as I said what’s fun is finding more and more builds and getting progressively better

bitter cairn
#

Makes sense

#

There are many weapons too

broken girder
#

Yes

bitter cairn
#

i won my first run after not playing for 2-3 years, this is my 2nd win

#

i have a question regarding gun weapons though

#

i am using a gun weapon and the way the special aims is very weird with controller

#

is it normal for that to happen when using a range weapon with a controller?

broken girder
#

Well iirc the special of the rail is auto aimed, I don’t use it much but just pressing it should be enough

bitter cairn
broken girder
#

Also congrats on the win

bitter cairn
#

should i just not touch my left stick?

broken girder
#

I mean you can try just quickly tapping the button and not holding it, that might do it

dusty vault
#

Yeah I just quick tap

#

Unless enemies are spawning

bitter cairn
#

alright

proud topaz
#

Just just wanted to ask, what happen to biome reward ||of previous heat If i exceed one or more heat level||?

upbeat spoke
proud topaz
upbeat spoke
dusty vault
#

||5 is just a nice number :p, there are some rewards for other levels though||

proud topaz
#

||Then, when you said "...would have to do at least 7..." are talking about runs or heat 7?||

upbeat spoke
#

||heat ||

#

|| if you get reward for 6, then next you would have to do 7, or you could do heat 10 three times and have the same result ||

#

|| basically it doesn't matter what heat you do as long as it is above the one you did last ||

proud topaz
#

I see! So i will still get the rewards ||from previous heat if i exceed||. Thanks a bunch! But do i have to clear three times? ||If example i only want Titan blood from the Sisters while in excceding heat of 10, does it give it to me only 1 eventhough from beating them 3 times due to incomplete run or it give all reward from all 3 runs?||

upbeat spoke
proud topaz
#

Alright. Again, thanks a bunch.

upbeat spoke
#

np

tidal leaf
#

yall is there any way to play hades on like a phone or computer

#

ive heard its console only

broken girder
#

You can play hades on pc

#

Even sync your file from switch iirc

tidal leaf
#

ooh ok

#

can u only buy it on steam or

broken girder
#

Also epic I think idk

tidal leaf
#

oh ok

#

ty!

bitter cairn
#

When using Hera Bow, is it recommended to stack 3 cast or just use it 1 by 1

sweet brook
#

generally 3

#

or like however much it takes to kill them

#

some stuff would only need 1

#

but if it's something beefy then you'd rather use all 3

zinc epoch
#

How do you check condition for certain Daedalus' upgrade?

upbeat spoke
#

wiki only

dusty vault
sonic eagle
#

is it just me or is the shield absolutely broken?

broken girder
#

It is

#

Welcome to hades

final dune
#

well

#

the base shield without considering hammer upgrades, not so much

#

defensively it's good but it is also the definition of a wet noodle

#

whacking people with 25 base damage slow attacks

sonic eagle
final dune
#

well

#

base sword also sucks at damag

#

but you probably dont know the optimal attack rotations

sonic eagle
final dune
#

so what do you do

sonic eagle
#

bought the game barely 2 days ago already 20h lol

sonic eagle
final dune
#

🗿

sonic eagle
#

is it that bad 😨

final dune
#

kinda

sonic eagle
#

ouch

final dune
#

you never want to do the standard attack rotation

#

it's just dash strike x2 into special

#

repeat

sonic eagle
#

for knockback tho

final dune
#

?

sonic eagle
#

hitting them into walls

#

the 3rd strike

#

and traps

broken girder
#

if you want knockback take splash dash

sonic eagle
final dune
#

u have plenty of time to learn

sonic eagle
#

I still often get the distance wrong and throw them away from the wall or just miss a trap

final dune
#

im not that good though

#

and this is old

rich elm
#

I have two boons. One increases the chance of new boons being rare by 12%, the other one by 31%. Do they somehow add up or is only the highest one active?

final dune
#

which is the real boost

#

the rare boost doesnt rlly matter nearly as much

#

chaos favor is goated

rich elm
#

so the more boons I have that upgrade rarity the better

sweet brook
#

There's generally better things from chaos tho

rich elm
#

I noticed that the last shop before the final boss sometimes offers the same items for two different prices. In my case they had two boons from Athena for 150 and 450 each. Does the price tell me something about the content or is it totally random?

final dune
rich elm
#

||So I got the companion from meg now. 3 hearts are still missing, but I can't give her anything currently.|| Just do more runs and wait for it?

#

Also thanks to everyone for answering all my questions. Spent a lot of time with the game but still feel like there are tons of things to learn

static cliff
sonic eagle
#

does the heat gauge need to be exact to give you the bounties? have 3 rn but only need 2

pure raven
#

hello, i have a trade where i get 200 Gemstones for one Titan Blood, is that a good deal? this is my third run so far

sonic eagle
#

gems are easier to get imo

pure raven
#

but i could renovate a lot with them

broken girder
#

Titan blood is much more important

#

Keep it

sonic eagle
static cliff
pure raven
#

no, theres some non cosmetic stuff like the fountain i think

broken girder
static cliff
pure raven
#

ok, thank you

broken girder
#

Also if you ever see the deal pay 15 keys for one titan blood, take it

#

It’s the best one in the game

static cliff
#

???

sonic eagle
broken girder
#

You get the bounties for the stage you’re in

#

If you exceed it

#

You also only get the one you’re in

#

And move to the next once you clear

sonic eagle
#

but why does he say I dont get them???

broken girder
#

No extra bounties

static cliff
#

pretty sure it just means you wont get bonus bounties from only that run, not future ones

broken girder
#

You could technically clear it with two

#

So he says that 1 heat is just useless

sonic eagle
#

oh I see

broken girder
#

But you will still get the bounties of the stage you’re in

sonic eagle
#

get it now, thx

broken girder
static cliff
#

OH i thought you meant pay one titan blood for 15 keys i was about to say

broken girder
#

Yeah that’d be stupid

static cliff
#

native english speaker cannot speak english

broken girder
#

Might be my mistake, I should’ve made it clearer

static cliff
#

nah ur good lmfao

sonic eagle
#

damn just got my first streak!

broken girder
#

Congrats

sonic eagle
#

what is the reason to take gods pride over gods legacy?

final dune
#

you basically always use pride

#

epic good

stoic raven
sonic eagle
#

isnt legendary > epic?

final dune
#

well

#

legendaries suck

#

by and large

sonic eagle
#

huh?

final dune
#

most of them have too many prereqs for too little gain

stoic raven
# sonic eagle isnt legendary > epic?

rarities in hades work like this:
common
rare
epic
heroic

legendaries and duos refer to a specific set of boons which require prerequisites to obtain

sonic eagle
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oh I see, got confused for a second

stoic raven
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for example, splitting bolt cannot be obtained as any rarity outside of legendary, and thunder flourish cannot be legendary or duo.

sonic eagle
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get it now, thanks!

stoic raven
sonic eagle
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but couldnt legenderys be better then? after all there are some ways to upgrade you existing boons

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the one boon of demeter for example

final dune
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those ways are very limited

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and rare crop is buggy and kinda bad

sonic eagle
final dune
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code hard

stoic raven
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you only have 2 effects in the game that upgrade existing boons

sonic eagle
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havent had problems with it so far

final dune
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it can make your damage random

sonic eagle
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wat?

final dune
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yeah there’s a deprecated random damage thing that crop triggers or something

sonic eagle
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no clue what that means, but I'll just take it as is ig

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the fact that it does some randomizing I meant

stoic raven
sonic eagle
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btw, whats better, doom or drunk?

stoic raven
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depends

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everything is good in different situations

sonic eagle
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doom has some good synergies as far as I know

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but drunk is more reliable orrr?

stoic raven
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hangover's better if your weapon is decently fast(while not being lightspeed like rail or fists) and doesnt work well with merciful end

sonic eagle
stoic raven
sonic eagle
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doom doesnt?

dusty vault
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rail or fists do work with hangover but at your point there isn't really a point to run hangover

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cuz having a zeus build go crazy is easy

stoic raven
sonic eagle
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zeus bad

stoic raven
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applying 22000000 stacks of hangover doesnt do better, but with doom it does

dusty vault
final dune
dusty vault
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zeus is prob one of the best lol

sonic eagle
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His boons are all

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well idk how to put it, just not really my playstyle I suppose

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with eception of his cast, even tho it doesnt make sense with the weapon I'm mainly using rn

dusty vault
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I mean it just depends on your weapon

stoic raven
sonic eagle
dusty vault
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like idk what kinda playstyle you could have to not make zeus boons work

sonic eagle
dusty vault
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yup

stoic raven
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the boon has a cooldown of 0.2 seconds

dusty vault
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zeus stuff have an internal cooldown

sonic eagle
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with the exit wounds boon

dusty vault
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yeahhh that makes sense

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sorry for you being the one to mention but really why do people like exit wounds so much

sonic eagle
dusty vault
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what cast do you usually pick out of curiosity

stoic raven
sonic eagle
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artemis with exit wounds, if I dont go for exit wounds either zeus or athene

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or drunk guys

dusty vault
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now makes sense why you want exit wounds bouldy

sonic eagle
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forgot his name

stoic raven
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dio(nysus)

sonic eagle
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'xactly

dusty vault
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can't really kill with those casts dusa

final dune
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phalanx can

dusty vault
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was about to edit

stoic raven
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so its decent damage

sonic eagle
final dune
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patchwork

dusty vault
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I get exit wounds as an extra thing for builds

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just really petty towards "use this as your main source of dmg"

sonic eagle
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thats quite good

stoic raven
sonic eagle
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with posidons sword*

dusty vault
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what kinda global buff you have that exit wounds is doing that much

stoic raven
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100 or 120 base per stone

dusty vault
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or do you get like a million extra casts

sonic eagle
final dune
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you can do double that with just a good cast

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lol

sonic eagle
final dune
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phalanx

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crush

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trippy

sonic eagle
final dune
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flood flare

dusty vault
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athena's

stoic raven
final dune
stoic raven
final dune
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still tho

dusty vault
stoic raven
sonic eagle
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and its a pretty safe build too

dusty vault
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should've said eris instead

sonic eagle
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dont need to get too close

stoic raven
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🤦

sweet brook
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i mean all the casts are ranged except crush shot really

dusty vault
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and you still need to close the distance to special anyways

sonic eagle
stoic raven
sweet brook
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the only reason artemis is good is because it leads into her legendary pretty easily

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since you need exit wounds for patchwork damage

dusty vault
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certainly one of those

sweet brook
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pressure points and support fire kinda just exist

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so you're kinda like on the way to get her legendary for more casts and therefore more exit wounds damage lmao

sonic eagle
sweet brook
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it's not consistent but it's like your ideal build

sweet brook