#h1-for-new-players

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hollow gorge
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1 blood per level for zag

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1-5 for second

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2, 2-5 for god

dusty vault
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Unlocking hidden spear needs you to unlock 5 non zag aspects
Other weapons is just invest 5 blood in the weapon

hollow gorge
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3 per level for hidden

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Iirc

celest fox
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Alright just making sure

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Just rng. This comes up all the time in this chat.

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You'll get it if you keep playing. That's all you can do.

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The more dialogues you do the further you will get.

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By depleting storylines and other options and such

dusty vault
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Im gonna answer in #h1-discussion cuz thats a lot of spoilers (which please spoiler mark about ||demeter||

merry yoke
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so i did all the requirements for the hidden aspect of the sword, but nyx won't give me the dialogue

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like, she ran out of dialogue

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and i did over 20 suicide runs and nothing changed

toxic jasper
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Ight so the dude above me has a point cause i got it 2nd try (The first one was Story lines), the only difference we have is that i UNLOCKED the last aspect of the Spear

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lmao nevermind he didn't "unlock" the spear, he got the Dialog but when he unlocked it the game crashed and we though he had it unlocked

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1 whole day spend for nothing 💀

hollow gorge
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dumb question: what key do I press to pause on the steam version?

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Also, is there a common preference for using a mouse vs not when playing the steam version if there isn't a controller available?

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Found it being esc for the pause menu....that makes a lot of sense.

viscid notch
viscid notch
hollow gorge
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completely ignoring the mouse

viscid notch
# hollow gorge completely ignoring the mouse

It’s a memey way of playing the game. Some people have done it but it’s kinda tough, on some weps it’s nearly unplayable. In terms of which one is better it’s easily kbm. On some weapons, mainly rail, you turn off aim at cursor so the auto aim takes over the attack and makes it more accurate.

balmy turret
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I just started playing Hades a couple days ago and am LOVING IT
I have almost all the weapons so far and want to think of a good build. My favorite weapon is the Eternal Spear and I like Aphrodite builds best. Do you have any suggestions on a good build route to take could be?

balmy turret
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no

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but I get the somewhat jist of them so you can add that into your explanation

final dune
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spear isnt super good without aspect

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youd need a lot of buffs to pull off like bablo 525

balmy turret
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I still enjoy using it

final dune
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but if you're gonna use it

balmy turret
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but assume I can use aspects I am close to unlocking them

final dune
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well then

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just use achilles

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start

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uh

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you can start tidal dash deadly strike or slicing shot

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if you want a better start with more rng on if u get the build do tidal

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if you want attack boon first deadly strike

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if you want cast first slicing shot

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and then get the artemis/ares duo hunting blades

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for achilles your rotation is tap special twice very quickly and then doing two dash strikes

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look for flurry jab hammer

balmy turret
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k

final dune
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dont take any special hammers on spear generally they suck

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except exploding launcher is good

balmy turret
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ok

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Was looking at spear aspects
what is raging rush?

final dune
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oh

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yeah

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so

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let me

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well

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if you like spear

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you can just go ahead and unlock achilles

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it's the best spear aspect by far

balmy turret
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What does raging rush do?

final dune
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video

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you rush to your special

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and then for the next 4 attacks/casts they get buffed

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between +50% and +150% based on aspect level

balmy turret
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Ooh

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EH

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THATS A LOT OF DAMAGe

final dune
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yea

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heres what some achilles gameplay looks like

balmy turret
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and tbh
my least favorite part of the spear
is retrieving it
so this seems perfect

final dune
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oh yeah dont use special unless you have exploding launcher or are on achilles

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you dont have to use all parts of your kit

gloomy cosmos
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so im kinda new, but does anyone else agree that using the bow is just not fun and kinda sucks

final dune
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no

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i mean

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certainly people will agree

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but that's because you're using it wrong

balmy turret
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7:37 they were mashing so hard they hit the menu button

final dune
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to see where enemies are

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(that's my vid btw)

gloomy cosmos
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yeah like i said im pretty new, so idrk how to use it, so it makes it hard to play with

balmy turret
balmy turret
final dune
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for bow you need to be doing dash strike power shots

final dune
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at relatively high level

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all weapons in this game are melee weapons

balmy turret
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huh

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Well this is new players section so talking about high-level. . .

final dune
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or well

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high performance

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staying back can be safer but you're dealing less damage often that way

gloomy cosmos
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is using the bow right all abt timing pretty much?

final dune
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but yeah more importantly bow is just dash strike power shots

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learning that is the thing most conducive to your success with the weapon

gloomy cosmos
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oh ok

gloomy cosmos
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ok yeah that makes more sense, ive only got like 17hrs in the game rn, so only have a few completions

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kinda just been messing around seeing how things work yk

sweet brook
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Becomes a rhythm game

hollow gorge
sweet brook
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Spear throw and recall kinda slow and not a lot of damage for what it's worth lmao

final dune
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yeah

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achilles hunting blades is kind of a lot of damage

sweet brook
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You're also stationary when you recall it right?

final dune
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yea

hollow gorge
sweet brook
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50% is still a lot

final dune
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+50% is a lot

hollow gorge
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I'm trying to work with out of the box stuff here

sweet brook
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Honestly 0% buff on hunting blades is fine lmao

balmy turret
hollow gorge
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Achilles beams I've found more conducive to survival.

final dune
balmy turret
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Ok

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Well I got the game 2 days ago so...

sweet brook
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It's risky with no benefit

final dune
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spear in general takes more boons to build

sweet brook
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Or very little benefit

balmy turret
final dune
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also like

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zeus attack is probably better than zeus special

hollow gorge
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Stuff that worked for me before I had all the aspects upgraded.

final dune
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because higher frequency

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if you wanna get really basic with it heartbreak strike on any spear will work fine

hollow gorge
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Oh lol no swearing allowed here?

final dune
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it's just that you can pretty easily get some higher damage

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and also cast builds imo are generally more interesting than non cast build for unaspected weps

balmy turret
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Which I understand
Just saying I appreciate hearing opinions besides the meta choices

final dune
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when i was new i totally discounted actually using the cast

hollow gorge
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Gotta balance that with safety/ease of use. Some weapons are generally actually ranged when not under time pressure, just trying to survive.

final dune
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so i want to get other people to use casts more

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because they are fun

hollow gorge
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Very fun. Require a little more knowledge on how to build for them but I think almost all my ||32+ heat|| clears are cast builds.

balmy turret
final dune
hollow gorge
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The other aspects definitely make cast builds more fun/feasible

final dune
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le epic hidden shield

hollow gorge
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Some empower casts with percent bonus which is a big deal for casts which have fewer ways to get percent bonus than attack or special, and upgrade base damage when pommed.

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Some let you load casts into attacks.

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Mainly those two ig lol.

final dune
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the castspects are

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hidden shield

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hera

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eris

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achilles

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poseidon

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talos

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thinkthats it

sweet brook
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each weapon has 1 yeah

final dune
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oh yeah

sweet brook
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some are much better than others

final dune
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never noticed that

sweet brook
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some are pretty disappointing lmao

hollow gorge
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Cast builds arguably benefit the most from the right duo boons which are easier to grab with fully upgraded mirror

final dune
hollow gorge
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Yeah I struggle with talos.

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The other 5 are my respective favs

final dune
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there are 2 users alive who do not struggle with talos

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and even they struggle with talos

sweet brook
final dune
hollow gorge
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Fastest in terms of speed running?

balmy turret
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OK I have gathered from this. . . Very easy to understand conversation that I will be using Achilles Spear

And I reckon Poseidon and Zeus go well with Aphrodite?

final dune
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aph and pos have no particular synergy

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the duo is ok

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zeus and aph have smoldering air which is a really good duo

sweet brook
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they're just strong

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a lot of top aspects that are recommended to players are castpects lmao

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namely hera and eris

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achilles if they like spear

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the only exception is talos

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talos kinda just exists

hollow gorge
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Achilles with artemis attack makes mathematical sense and also can lead to some good cast builds.

balmy turret
final dune
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?

balmy turret
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The Tidal Dash?

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For a build?

final dune
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oh

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well i mean

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that's jutsa really good boon lol

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you can go through a run with that as your only damage source and do fine

balmy turret
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Alrighty

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I was really hyped when I got a duo boon in-game today cus I had 0 clue about them before

hollow gorge
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They re pretty neat.

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Building to get them is fun.

balmy turret
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I just got super surprised when the dialog kicked in and them BOOM! Duo Boons

hollow gorge
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Which one?

final dune
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Unshakable Mettle

balmy turret
hollow gorge
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Increased damage when critting

balmy turret
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Gotcha

hollow gorge
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But yeah, that one can be super good with weak application and crit chance.

balmy turret
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Ye that one

final dune
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heart rend is cool

balmy turret
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Ye I just like Aphrodite's abilities and as a beginner the damage-boosting dash is incredibly appealing
Especially with Spear's dash hitbox

hollow gorge
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Did you have Artemis attack?

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If so, a nice all in one solution there.

balmy turret
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Just the Dash I think

hollow gorge
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I thought you had aphrodite dash

proven pivot
hollow gorge
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nbd either way, I'm sure you'll see a lot more

proven pivot
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Was the Hades rank always green?

hollow gorge
balmy turret
final dune
hollow gorge
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does artemis dash unlock heart rend? I would think not.

final dune
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on achilles aph atk is p much useless compared to arty

final dune
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it doesn’t crit

hollow gorge
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heart rend not being dependent on a crit chance boon would be silly lol

proven pivot
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I don't know about Achilles specifically. I don't use it

hollow gorge
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lol

balmy turret
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What does heart rend do again?

hollow gorge
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the one you got

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+150% damage on crits

balmy turret
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Right

final dune
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heart rend increases crit damage from 3x o 4.5x

final dune
hollow gorge
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but like, crit damage which is separate from the percent most percent boosts get added to

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achilles v fun

proven pivot
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Don't like it tbh

hollow gorge
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it might be my fav

final dune
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i only like achilles and hidden spear

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mainly because the other 2 spears are garbo but whatever

hollow gorge
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I've had good times with all the spears

final dune
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i’m not playing a spear that i can’t get flurry or cskewer on so i’m not touching hades and zagspear is just worse achilles

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talos and ||arthur|| are both very whatever

hollow gorge
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||hidden sword||

hollow gorge
final dune
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i mean the only hammers u can’t get on achilles are some special ones

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and special hammers suck

hollow gorge
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that's some negative talk for new-players

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I had fun with them

final dune
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i mean there’s exploding launcher

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which is fine but also is not flurry

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and what else

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flurry is literally just too satisfying to ever pass up

hollow gorge
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These absolutes feel like a disservice to the game

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All the flurries are fun.

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Also, all the furies.

final dune
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huh

proven pivot
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Hidden sword is the coolest weapon in the game tbh

hollow gorge
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I feel like I'd like it if I could figure out dashing mid combo

proven pivot
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Big sword kill fast

final dune
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big sword kill slow zagCry

proven pivot
hollow gorge
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that's jazz bait

proven pivot
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?

final dune
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dash strikes are better but also are annoying because of the weird delay sort of thing

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on other swords you press dash mouse1 and can instantly do it again

hollow gorge
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I just assume jazz will strongly disagree with that on an emotional level lol

final dune
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on hidden you have to wait it out

hollow gorge
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Do most people keep the default computer button layout?

final dune
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i do

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some people change around cast button or special button

proven pivot
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I don't recall the exact methods but something about hidden sword apparently makes standing strikes about as good as dash strikes with it

final dune
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but it’s fine and i’m not relearning hestia rotation on anything else

hollow gorge
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special on mouse does seem better if wanting to dash special (which I guess is rare)

proven pivot
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I can never get the dash uppercuts on fists to work tbh

final dune
proven pivot
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Not when you get Aphrodite attack and just delete everything

final dune
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but you could also do that on hestia a million times faster

proven pivot
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That's what I did for things that are spoilers in this chat

final dune
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with more safety

hollow gorge
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is a hidden sword swing actually the same timing as a hestia shot?

proven pivot
final dune
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or on hidden bow with way more damage

final dune
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way slower

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hestia is roughly every 0.75s

final dune
proven pivot
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Idk I've yet to need them

hollow gorge
hollow gorge
proven pivot
final dune
hollow gorge
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ah that's what you're comparing to

viscid notch
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If your goal is to go fast tho it’s not very worth doing.

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Dash strikes mostly stronger in that regard.

hollow gorge
final dune
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no

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you can just mash attack and dash

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the wep has tech because they specifically made it easier to dash between strikes

hollow gorge
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Neat

full slate
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27 attempts now and still no full clear but i have gotten to the last boss 5 times now (I presume last boss). Been levelling up the mirror where possible and I now have the ability for more than 1 revive so things should get easier now. Also unlocked chaos shield and enjoying doom builds!

sterile solar
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Keep at it!

grave hill
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like carrot guy said, just keep at it.. "there is no escape"

hollow gorge
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It took me like 50 I think.

grave hill
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im sure it took me at least 10 to even beat meg lol

modest sphinx
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Rolling Knuckle
Your Dash Strike does 60+% damage; added to Attack sequence.

What does that mean?

dusty vault
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your attack normally finishes with the 5th normal punch

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that hammer adds the dash strike as a combo finisher

modest sphinx
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Thank you!

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Definitely choosing that, then.

dusty vault
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what were the other 2 options btw

full slate
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Does bull rush count as an attack?

leaden whale
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yus

modest sphinx
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They were all dash strike/uppers, which I hate using.

final dune
fickle marten
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Im new and I dont really understand much about boosts

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also dont know which weapons to pick

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The shield is like ass

final dune
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just use what u want to

fickle marten
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What option should I choose for chaos

final dune
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wdym

fickle marten
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For boosts

final dune
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what

fickle marten
final dune
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caustic?

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well

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what weapon are you on

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these things generally depend

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for chaos you want to balance a good curse with a good boon

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caustic soul isn't that bad

fickle marten
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Sword

final dune
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because the curse isn't too bad and health is nice

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atrophic grasp is good on cast builds but whatever on other builds

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for sword you want % bonuses on your attack and special

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but none of those are here

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affluence is nice but roiling is really bad

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so i'd take caustic soul

fickle marten
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Cant do atrophic because I only have 50 health

final dune
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i mean

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you can

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you just dont rlly need grasp

fickle marten
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Got so damn close to beating meg

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But I cant beat her

dull terrace
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athena is your friend for the projectiles parts

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get close and use any attack or move that has deflect

fickle marten
dull terrace
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every weapon

fickle marten
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Also tried but she kept doing aoe attack

dull terrace
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just keep moving away from that

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dash out of it

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if you managed to get a call , kill the enemies she spawn to use the greater call

fickle marten
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Call?

final dune
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i mean

dull terrace
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forgot that there is some time between the call and start of save

final dune
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the best way to get good at furies is to play more

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you don't need to do anything in particular at this point

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recommendations will generally only go against the natural learning process because this is like less than 10 runs in

fickle marten
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Whats a call

dull terrace
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jazz , change that to meg not furies

final dune
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it's whatever

final dune
fickle marten
final dune
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are you sure

fickle marten
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Is it the thing on the left side

final dune
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the game forces you into a call on one of your first runs

fickle marten
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wdym

final dune
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it makes you take one

dull terrace
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tutorial run

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it makes the call existent

fickle marten
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I dont remember that

final dune
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then u havent gotten it yet

fickle marten
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Ive done so many runs

dull terrace
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i think you gotta get to asphodel before getting it

final dune
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it's literally run 5

fickle marten
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2 weapons left and 5 keys rn

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Definitely more than 5 runs

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Oh

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Its the boosts things

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Im stupid

dull terrace
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you can't use call until you got a actual call from one of your gods

fickle marten
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Is the call like the thing you interact with and u get 3 options

final dune
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no

dull terrace
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call is the 5th core boon

final dune
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the game forces you into taking poseidon's call

final dune
dusty vault
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its a core but not a priority one

final dune
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generally thats not referred to as core

dull terrace
fickle marten
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Is call the things on the sides

final dune
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call is where you press f after building up a meter

dull terrace
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call is one of them

final dune
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and it does something based on whose god you got it frolm

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it's called an Aid in game

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in boon titles

fickle marten
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Think ive done that

final dune
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but rlly

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just play more and get more experience

fickle marten
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Is it different than summon

final dune
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yes

fickle marten
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Oh

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Ive called before

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I just skipped thru texf

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What is doom damage for

final dune
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this early in the game i'd say avoid ares generally because he can be good but only with game knowledge

fickle marten
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So hard

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This game is

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And im on god mode and still complaining

shell monolith
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It'll get easier once you get used to the enemy moves

hollow gorge
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Also once you unlock more stuff like mirror upgrades.

final dune
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o yea

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having 2nd dash is the most important upgrade on the entire mirror

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you should prioritize that over everything else

fickle ravine
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Anyone have tips for fishing? I can never seem to get the timing right

onyx finch
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You need to wait fot the buoy/float to completly submurge, then pull

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small bits that move it slightly doesn't mean you'll catch anything.
That's why you probably get the "too early" prompt, right?

final dune
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Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.

Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.

A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.

fickle ravine
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Thank you both!

onyx finch
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Good hunting stalker

sterile solar
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Oh man did I struggle

pliant plover
fickle ravine
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I’ve beaten Meg without too much trouble. Keep getting stuck either on redacted or on the Elysium boss. I’ll make it eventually, just taking my time

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Is there any way to get a specific boon to show up besides the trinkets you get from gifting to them?

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and do the odds of a certain boon showing depend on your other boons, or on your weapon?

onyx finch
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Not specific boons, but you can (not sure how spoiler this is, so added anyway) ||toggle them using a
mirror aspect||.

There are boons that depend on others, yes.
Your codex explains that in detail

fickle ravine
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Not like the duo boons I was meaning, more like let’s say if your first boon is from ares then you’d be more likely to get a boon from Aphrodite or something like that, regardless of the synergy between the boons

onyx finch
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Never dived into the code so can't say for sure, but it
do seems like it sometimes

final dune
fickle ravine
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Alright

final dune
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no interactions like that

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it would suck if u got forced into aph on basically any build involving ares lol

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now if you got athena and artemis…

onyx finch
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So 100% random?
That's good to know

final dune
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yea

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the only things like that are god pools

final dune
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check in the administration chamber does it say Escaped or Fell

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spoiler this btw

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|| ||

sterile solar
final dune
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hermes is diff ofc

sterile solar
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Well Hermes is effectively a different hammer

sterile solar
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Love the name evolution

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The world if you could ||romance hypnos||

final dune
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nah that’s just my speedcord nick lol

onyx finch
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The next logical evolution of that name would be
azz, after that... we'll see

sterile solar
final dune
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but yea my name is jazz

sterile solar
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Hi hungry I'm dad

little vessel
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how do i unlock wepons secrete aspects?

final dune
little vessel
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thanks

final dune
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Hilarious

full slate
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After 31 attempts I got my first completed run! I think it should have been sooner but I had a few runs with sloppy deaths

sterile solar
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That's the genre

mossy shale
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I need some help for unlock the heart for hypnos and Achilles , i dont understand the wiki😅

sterile solar
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I'll dm to not spoiler anyone else

fickle ravine
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Just completed my first full run

final dune
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nice

fickle ravine
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|| What does the boiling blood effect do btw besides affect your screen? ||

final dune
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whose

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||if you mean dad's, it doubles his damage against you||

fickle ravine
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Thank you

gentle juniper
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is it worth purging calculated risk for a death defiance back?

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its my last one

final dune
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yes

gentle juniper
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alr

modest sphinx
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Are some hammers only available for certain aspects? I've been trying to finish the fists for soooooo long. 😭

dusty vault
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(tho iirc wiki says what hammer is excluded from each aspect)

modest sphinx
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Thank you! Give me a minute to beat the game, and I can say.

modest sphinx
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Okay, I need Flurry Jab from the spear, and Rush Kick and Kinetic Launcher from the fists. I always use Talos (magnet) because it's super fun with Poseidon special.

RK is apparently incompatible both with Talos AND KL. I sob. KL is incompatible with a whole load of others. Sigh. I'm gonna hate these runs.

viscid notch
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Rush Kick can be fun on Dem too. It's not the greatest hammer.

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For Flurry Jab incompatible with 3rd and 4th spear.

dusty vault
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(also remember to not pick up hammers that block the ones you want)

modest sphinx
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Thanks! Hopefully, rng is nice to me.

rigid oak
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what do you do after beating the final boss (i have not done it yet) is there like a new boss or new objectives or something?

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oh sorry i just realized the channel rules sorry

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i even read it the rules but my mind didnt comprehend it lmao

modest sphinx
sterile solar
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I have over 500 hrs, and I finished everything around 250

lavish wedge
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Plus can you set your own challenges with the ||heat settings|| 3sMariSmile

gilded lance
#

it took me 400+ runs to max out/unlock everything if you include stuff like completing the codex, getting all the different clear messages and reaching the final badge rank (those aren't spoilers right?) there's tons of stuff to do

austere geode
#

Im at like 126 and I've finished everything except the themes, and the badge unlocks, and I have some side little story threads that are still finishing off (Nyx and Dusa, etc)

#

I've stopped really grinding gems and darkness though, and just going for high heat runs, so the grinds gonna slow down for those final themes and badges

gilded lance
#

yeah getting the last badge takes forever

#

far longer than anything else did

short void
#

Hello there. Can I ask for|| how to forge the bonds further here?
I just need Cerberus and Hermes to be done, but I don't know how to progress with them||

viscid notch
austere geode
short void
#

Thank you two!

opal rock
robust fable
#

I can't even beat the first boss 💀

austere geode
#

thats just roguelites for yah...start weak and then when you hit your stride nothing can beat you

full slate
robust fable
final dune
robust fable
final dune
#

thank you

robust fable
#

the boons where after you hit enemies you get health is so op

final dune
#

what boons

#

that doesnt exist

#

the only things like that are cursed slash and draining cutter and another thing tht is a spoilr

#

none of which r actually that good

robust fable
#

i got that early game

robust fable
#

idk how

final dune
#

?

ember narwhal
#

after maxing out the Darkness mirror, what do the keys do?

austere geode
#

trade ins, unlock something later (lots of keys), and reroll your darkness mirror talents

ember narwhal
#

ok

leaden whale
#

I’m going to buy hades on ps5 today any useful tips?

final dune
#

tips in early parts of the game are detrimental imo to the experience

#

once you have more speciifc things to ask go for it but for now i'd just recommend having fun with it

#

although one useful tip

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if you have a pc, probably buy it there instead

leaden whale
#

I have been told the bosses are hard. How hard are we talking?

worthy basin
#

not very

leaden whale
#

I don’t I’m a console gamer

final dune
#

significantly scales with your general ability at roguelites and your meta progression

final dune
#

still fun though

worthy basin
final dune
#

i mean

#

the grind basically solely involves actually playing the game

#

you just pick up rewards along the way and might change your decision making somewhat

worthy basin
#

thats a better way of saying it

leaden whale
#

I looked up gameplay and it looks very fun. Is there a weapon better than others?

final dune
#

there is not

#

there are 6 weapons and 3 of them are generally better than the other 3 but you can still do everything you want with them

#

up until the very extremes the bottleneck will basically never be your weapon

leaden whale
#

So your saying I could use the same weapon the whole game

final dune
#

well you could

#

that's less fun imo

leaden whale
#

So the bosses don’t play like a from soft game boss

final dune
#

well yeah i mean it's a 2d game

leaden whale
#

The thing that interests me the most from what I saw in the gameplay clip is all the dialogue

final dune
#

game has a lot of story elements yea

worthy basin
#

personally i think there is just enough dialogue and gameplay

#

everytime you talk to an npc its like 3-7 slides of dialogue

leaden whale
#

But your saying it’s not so difficult in terms of difficulty like Sekiro. That is a hard game

worthy basin
#

no, if something is too difficult youre just not upgraded enough yet

#

of you have a bad build that round

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or*

leaden whale
#

But if I die to a boss the first time that doesn’t mean I’m a bad player right

worthy basin
#

no not at all

leaden whale
#

My skill just isn’t high enough I guess

worthy basin
#

its a very rewarding game, im not a very good gamer myself but i found that if i die its a chance to upgrade and get further the next round

leaden whale
#

One of my friends said in the first area he died like ten times at least before he made it to the boss

#

So is that normal

final dune
#

i mean

#

it all really depends on your prior skill with roguelites

worthy basin
#

it didnt take me that long but everyone has their own experience

leaden whale
#

What if I’ve never played a roguelite

final dune
#

you might take a little while

#

it's fine

#

everyone goes at their own pace

leaden whale
#

Isn’t three a difficulty option not that I would change it because no challenge is kind of boring

final dune
#

there is god mode

leaden whale
#

Guessing you one hit everything

final dune
#

no

#

it slowly builds up damage resistance as you die

leaden whale
#

I’d probably use the regular setting

#

I want to have the same experience as everyone else

sweet brook
#

God mode doesn't really change your experience tbh

#

It's just a slightly easier game, everything is the same otherwise

dull terrace
#

ima say soemthing got godmode here : brimstones and other enemies alike ( also poison ) aren't reduced it keeps dealing 1 dmg

#

it's still pain to deal with

final dune
#

i mean they cant reduce it

#

well i guess they could take the sure footing lava approach

#

but that would be weird

dull terrace
#

lava still does alot

final dune
#

i mean

#

it will be reduced

#

because it usually does 2 right

dull terrace
#

it still ramps up

leaden whale
#

How’s the controls on ps5 for hades?

final dune
#

i know you have to remap reload

#

otherwise they're fine but change them around however you want

leaden whale
#

What do you mean re map

modest sphinx
#

In settings, you can change which buttons do what.

#

Attack plus dash is a very common combination, so make sure those are comfy to hit at the same time before muscle memory sets in.

final dune
#

the reload button defaults to like pressing in the right stick or something

#

which is bad

final dune
sweet brook
#

<@&456908176877551658>, also got spammed in a few other channels

austere geode
#

Bananas trying to keep people from making an easy 50k smh my head

fringe yacht
#

We want all that money for ourselves!!!

waxen sapphire
fringe yacht
#

Jokes aside thank you for tagging us for spam

#

Always happy to help

leaden whale
#

So most of the control scheme on ps5 I’m okay with but what would you recommend the move options changed to along with reload

sweet brook
#

afaik the controls on everything is fine other than the reload, from what i hear from controller players

#

honestly just do whatever feels comfortable for you, there's really no wrong answer

#

i play kbm and rebound a couple of stuff, others use the defaults on kbm, etc

leaden whale
#

Wouldn’t the movement be easier for movement if you use the left stick on controller

sweet brook
#

also reload is specific to 1 specific weapon, so you wont have to worry about it that much

sweet brook
#

i've never heard of a game that made the right stick default for movement

leaden whale
#

No on the controls the default movement are the arrows

final dune
#

lol

leaden whale
#

Seriously you can

final dune
#

yea

leaden whale
#

Thank god

#

What should I put reload on

final dune
#

it's all preference but thats what they use

#

idk what these mean ive never used a playstation controller

sweet brook
#

Who's keybinds are these lmao

final dune
#

mystic

#

i trust them to not be too cursed

#

although playing hera is cursed

leaden whale
#

What about opening the codex

#

They didn’t map that

final dune
#

put that somewhere idk you dont press that often

dusty vault
final dune
#

so pressing right stick in

#

i think

dusty vault
#

ye

leaden whale
#

I r happened upon a room twice with these yellow skeleton enemies

hasty perch
#

Just started playing for the first time

#

Any tips for starting out?

final dune
#

the only major tip is that dashes have iframes unless you attack during the dash

#

otherwise just play

hasty perch
#

Aight thanks

leaden whale
#

Jazz I really like it so far

final dune
#

it’s very fun

leaden whale
#

Those skeleton bomb dudes those are meant to be hard right. They also have more life

final dune
#

yeah

#

i used to take a lot of damage from them

#

back in the stone age

leaden whale
#

What should i prioritize the keys or getting nectar

sweet brook
#

probably nectar

#

nectar doesn't come up as often

leaden whale
sonic topaz
#

How do I use ambrosia?(big Nectar bottle)

austere geode
sonic topaz
austere geode
#

his is...different. Story based

#

to clarify, you need to UNLOCK the heart by another means, and THEN you can use Ambrosia

#

you dont unlock the heart with the ambrosia

sterile solar
inland niche
#

would ESCAPING be required to further bedchambers conversations with Meg ? I feel like other convos are keeping her from spawning there

craggy root
upbeat spoke
#

all of them at some point

#

basically when you reach a certain point with a character you need to do something for that character to progress further (unlock the heart)

austere geode
#

yeah it's different for every character, and after the unlock you then need Ambrosia, not nectars to go further with them

#

@craggy root

craggy root
#

so i dont have enough necter yet ok

modest sphinx
#

Note- some characters need to be talked to with their trinkets maxed out.

frank dove
#

Hi, was wondering if going through levels would force you to meet the boss, or if you can simply choose to stay within the “part” you’re in to collect boons or coins. Sorry for the weird wording, i don’t know how else to phrase it lol

final dune
#

you have to fight the boss

frank dove
final dune
#

changes if you have chaos extension

sweet brook
#

||erebus|| is a spoiler

frank dove
sullen skiff
#

Is anyone's favorite god ||Demeter|| in terms of boons? I'm having difficulty adapting to their playstyle. It seems that their boons are much less collaborative with other gods, and require a significant amount of luck to synergize effectively. Cast can be powerful but only if you obtain most of the relevant boons. ||Chill|| is kinda underwhelming as a status.

modest sphinx
#

I like decay, rare crop, and of course revenge, but other than that, eh.

sweet brook
#

||demeter|| is a spoiler in this channel btw lol

sullen skiff
#

Apologies! it's corrected

final dune
#

she basically only has one boon that's really good and it's only really good on like two aspects

#

her attack/special at epic can be fine on %-taking weps

sweet brook
#

iirc she has a few unpommables, which are nice

#

but other than that she's pretty eh most of the time

vapid canopy
#

best keepsake?

final dune
#

god keepsakes

vapid canopy
#

what if you already have all the thingies you need

final dune
#

wdym

vapid canopy
#

all the boons you need

#

is it ever worth using a non god keepsake

sweet brook
#

Acorn and hourglass are pretty much the only other ones that are used in Elysium and Styx

#

Hourglass is more niche tho

vapid canopy
#

ok

#

also whats a good speedrun time for 80 attempts

modest sphinx
#

A note- at least one trinket has to be maxed and equipped for you to unlock story bits.

final dune
#

what?

modest sphinx
#

||Hermes||. No matter how often I ran or talked to him, he only opened up once I maxed his trinket.

final dune
#

that's only him

#

no other god is like that

#

his favor is completed by having max plume equipped

#

but that doesn't apply to literally anyone else

sweet brook
#

Idrk tbh

vapid canopy
#

im at sub 11 but only cos i got really lucky and struggling to beat it

final dune
#

have u watched

sweet brook
#

Also if you're speedrunning I recommend not using this channel lmao

#

If you're speedrunning you should've reached the credits already probably

vapid canopy
#

i started lke 5 days ago

sweet brook
#

I mean

#

Have you reached the credits lmao

#

Most people who speedrun have already reached the credits at that point

vapid canopy
#

yeah i have

sweet brook
#

Yeah this channel is mainly for players who haven't reached the credits yet to avoid spoilers

#

Even tho you started 5 days ago lmao

#

You're free to ask about speedrunning and build stuff in other channels tho ofc

#

There's also a speedrunning discord pinned in #self-promotion if you wanna ask any questions about it there

vapid canopy
#

ok thanks

polar ibex
#

What's considered the easiest weapon to make it past the third floor?

final dune
polar ibex
#

Ok I expected as much, thanks 🙂

vapid canopy
#

best companion?

#

worth grinding for bouldy?

austere geode
#

most people settle on meg because the speed in which it does its damage

#

most reliable to land

vapid canopy
#

oka

grave hill
#

also meg is bae 😍

#

lol

modest sphinx
viscid notch
#

Meg is just generally the best. Not only for speedruns.

final dune
#

drops quick and does a lot of damage in a large area

vapid canopy
#

ok

#

also how do you get bouldy like the gifting nectar thingo thing do you just max out sisyphus

modest sphinx
#

You get summons from the first Ambrosia.

You fill people up with nectar, their heart may/may not be locked for a bit, do a few runs or specific quests (like freeing people from contracts- this requires talking to Nyx), then when they unlock, they want Ambrosia instead.

visual hornet
#

is there a way i can show a list of duo boons in the game ?

sweet brook
#

the fated prophecies list has all the duos listed there i believe

#

it won't tell you the prereqs or anything like that but it does list them

#

otherwise there's the codex

#

also the wiki

visual hornet
#

ty

final dune
#

spoiler

#

but ||yes, on hell mode you get bounties between 5 and 25 heat||

#

unless you haven't cleared yet

#

come back after clear

#

it's complicated

outer zodiac
#

Finally I beat Hades! Thank you for your advice

sterile solar
#

I'd spoiler that

vapid canopy
#

why-

solar mason
#

omg i didnt know hades had merch

#

i want all of it ahh

next basin
#

what is a foe specifically, do bosses count ?

dusty vault
zinc epoch
#

How would you make a built in general?
I've always just slap on anything I feel like at the time ever sine I started playing

dusty vault
#

For the basics you use % boons (as in add dmg to your base weapon) to anything with high base dmg
And use flat dmg (zeus, dio mainly) on quick but weak hits

#

You can use the keepsakes from the gods to force them to appear

zinc epoch
#

also how do you unlock the last sword?

dusty vault
dusty vault
#

aphro has the highest % modifier

zinc epoch
#

So you need follow up boom if it's not Artemis'?

#

since she's crit already

dusty vault
#

?
crit isn't always necessary

#

what I mean with % boons for example is taking aphro attack boon will add a 50%-100% dmg to your weapon depending on rarity

zinc epoch
#

I thought she just weaken the enemies and that's it

dusty vault
#

nope

#

artemis also adds a small % dmg bonus on top of the ability to crit

#

athena adds % dmg and deflect and so on

marble nimbus
#

Q) Hello. Brand new player here (<5 hours). Thesues is kicking my ass. Any tips? I am using the crossbow item

raw coral
dusty vault
#

when Theseus is summoning a god he's also totally open to attacks

#

dashing through him, attack them dashing though him again to just keep dodging the attacks is free dmg

#

or if you have any call of your own saved

marble nimbus
#

Does fighting Minotaur alone is a previous Encounter help in teh final boss fight?

austere geode
#

omg it does

#

explains the discrepancy sometimes...I'm dumb

molten marten
#

im getting very headache about so many gods and i dont know how do I combo them together to make it good..

#

Is there any tips on which god should I pick?

raw coral
#

Not really since it depends on what weapon you prefer to play. I'd say to try to find what combos work for you since it's what roguelikes are about. There are definitely builds that are better than others, but if you're just starting off, most stuff works decently well.

#

Runs also restrict you to 4 gods, excluding Hermes, so you can try to pick synergies based on that.

molten marten
#

Oka thank you so much radish

grave hill
#

what radiah said^ just try everything find out what you like. eventually ul become familiar enough to start understanding the differences and start thinkin about ur favorites and how they work with each weapon etc

#

but ur better off not worrying about it too much for a while

#

basic "universal" tips
flat damage boons are better for faster attacks
% increases are better for slower attacks
athena dash pretty much always a good choice
generaly don't want more than 1 hangover boon

zinc epoch
#

How do you unlock assist like ||Megara||?

dusty vault
marble nimbus
#

Q) Bradn new player here. How can I check what I have completed with what weapons? I ask just to know what my rewards will be for a Escape attempt

final dune
#

open the screen for starting escape

#

shows ||heat gauge||

#

if u wanna see that sort of stuff tho u can use the administrative chamber

#

No

#

so basically

#

im going to #h1-discussion because spoilering everything here is annoying, also spoiler that

zinc epoch
#

Can ||Excalibur|| even dash-strike?

sweet brook
#

every weapon and aspect can dash strike

austere geode
#

||Arthur ||is just weird because it can also dash + your main attack. Which as far as I know is still just a normal attack with a dash inbetween

marble nimbus
#

Q) On the second Lava level, I did the "upgrade 4 boons"... but only 1 of my boons got upgraded, eventho I have multiple boons (when I press B they show up).

austere geode
#

its 4 individual pom upgrades, so it could all go into the same boon 4 times

#

or split 4 ways

#

@marble nimbus

dusty vault
dusty vault
#

could you send a screenshot/tell us what boons you have?

marble nimbus
dusty vault
#

you have to memorize which ones can't be pommed

#

but just think of any boon that gives resources or some effects (like sunken treasure or life affirmation)

dusty vault
# marble nimbus I didnt know that was possible. How can I check in the future?

For reference purposes; Unpommable Boons:

Artemis:
None

Ares:
-Dire Misfortune
-Engulfing Vortex
-Blood Frenzy

Athena:
-Last Stand
-Deathless Stand
-Sure Footing

Aphrodite:
-Life Affirmation
-Blown Kiss
-Broken Resolve

||Demeter:
-Rare Crop
-Ravenous Will
-Nourished Soul
-Arctic Blast
-Killing Freeze
||
Dionysus:
-Premium Vintage
-Strong Drink
-After Party

Poseidon:
-Sunken Treasure
-Ocean's Bounty

Zeus:
None
Compiled by Bright01

marble nimbus
dusty vault
#

first 2 are chaos boons

#

those can't be pommed and same goes for hermes

austere geode
dusty vault
dusty vault
marble nimbus
#

I have those above boons, and a couple new ones as I am still playing...

dusty vault
#

so at the time of taking the +4 poms only artemis special was upgrade and you only had that + curse of vengeance?

marble nimbus
dusty vault
#

def weird for CoV

merry elbow
#

Yo what's a good aspect other then the bow I'm trying out new aspect and anyone got a recommendation?

copper estuary
#

i am a big fan of G U N

merry elbow
#

Which aspect

grave hill
#

hestia is my favorite bc its reliable and easy but ita kinda boring

#

the one that gives u damage boost when u hit urself with the special is probably the best one

austere geode
#

Hestia is good but ultimately ResidentSleeper

final dune
#

hestia is mega high apm

raw coral
#

Any shield is fun imo

marble nimbus
#

Q) If I unlock admin privalge, can I revisit the room anytime? or is it only a one-time privilage?

#

nevermind I unlocked it

austere geode
#

it's's high APM if rockets are worth using...but you need to get pretty lucky with hammers for that to be a thing

final dune
#

you still use special

austere geode
#

unless you're going for speed I feel like I'd almost just rather have the mobility, but yeah incorporating special into your rotation is essential if you ever want to go fast with Hestia

sweet brook
#

How does using the special on rail not make you mobile

austere geode
#

because it has an animation lock if your dash isnt up.

final dune
#

you do animation cancels

marble nimbus
#

Q) Does Chimery Jerky stack (ie. will I get +40% + 40% =80 bonus to my Special?)

final dune
sweet brook
merry elbow
#

You guys got any more aspect other then how and hestia?

final dune
austere geode
#

Zag bow isn't bad actually, if you can get a hang for the power shot

merry elbow
#

Got some on hesit don't really care for it

final dune
merry elbow
#

I think I'm gonna do nemise

austere geode
#

yeah hestia needs to be 5

#

cuz the whole gimick is on that one bullet

merry elbow
#

Wow

#

So like the chaos shield

austere geode
#

kind of

#

if you are going to play Hestia and are on a controller, change the reload button. I swapped it to L1

final dune
final dune
#

because gimmick useless

merry elbow
#

Lv 1 hmm yes one extra shield plz

#

But ya Charon better tbh

#

Wait

#

Chiron

#

My bad

final dune
#

because no matter the level you just don’t use the special

copper estuary
#

and even if you do use the special they all miss anyways

austere geode
#

that special is so bad lul

copper estuary
#

chiron and chaos are the 2 raccoons battling in the dumpster for who has the more clunky gimmick

austere geode
#

You can charge and throw your shield! But you have to wait for your shield to come back from it's round trip to Singapore before you can charge again.

violet yarrow
austere geode
leaden whale
#

Hi im new.

#

How hard is Hell mode?

#

Can I switch back to normal later?

#

just started playing.

viscid notch
viscid notch
#

Not worth starting on it imo. Later on you can create another file or toggle it using mods

#

Or just download a hell mode save

leaden whale
#

Thanks
My habit to play games on hard mode.
Let's see.

full slate
#

I feel called out that Chiron and chaos are my most used 😭. Chiron has gotten me the majority of my clears too

grave hill
#

chiron is so fun

#

what do u like to use for special?

#

so many great options

#

my favorite probably is dio hangover

austere geode
#

Hestia is kind of just a better Chiron (with slightly less boss DPS if you have a good Chiron build)

austere geode
#

||I havent gotten clockets on hestia since my 32 runs. AP2 unmodded is pain.||

final dune
#

also spoiler this

austere geode
#

forgot where we were

final dune
#

are you not doing hazard???

austere geode
#

No discussion of heat? Arent we discussing hard mode already?

final dune
#

yeah spoiler it

austere geode
#

or is it the aspects

final dune
#

it's after final boss

austere geode
#

can't you see the|| pacts|| before the boss if you have hell mode?

final dune
#

yeah but also people might backread who arent on hell mode

austere geode
final dune
leaden whale
#

finally beat maaera

fallow hemlock
#

God dayum nice

#

Hello, I am still confused about the Family Favourite mirror power thing and how it works. Can someone lend a hand?

viscid notch
upbeat spoke
#

you get global damage increase for every god in your pool

#

yeah

#

that

fallow hemlock
#

So if I had, lets say, 3 boons from diffrent gods I would get a 15% damage buff; is that how it works?

upbeat spoke
#

yes

fallow hemlock
#

Okay, thank you very much both of you

#

is banana tea real though?

craggy root
#

what do i do with the bond from cerebeus? do i get something from it?

dusty vault
#

You get a cute sticker next to the keepsake when looking at the cabinet

#

Nothing gameplay important

craggy root
#

Noooooooooooooooooo

restive portal
#

You get to pet the best boy as many times as you want ...

fallow hemlock
craggy root
fallow hemlock
fallow hemlock
#

free real estate

leaden whale
#

damn the snake boss is hard

#

Lernie somehting

polar furnace
#

is it fine if i ||max affinity with magaera|| before I ||unlock aphrodite's favor?||

final dune
#

yea

polar furnace
#

sweet, been wanting to get ||her companion|| for a while now

gusty phoenix
#

how do i beat this game..

#

i still dont know how to get the more of that red stuff to unlock more weapon aspects

dusty vault
gusty phoenix
#

what’s the best weapon in ur opinion?

dusty vault
#

Everything will work great

restive portal
#

Though when you do get more Titan Blood, plan where to spend it with a bit of thought. In general it's not easy to come by at first and some weapons don't need much to be very useful but others need you to invest fairly heavily to get good results. Also, don't believe Skelly about the sword (at least until you have blood to spare).

#

Id say invest a few Titan Blood into the weapon/aspect you have unlocked which you feel most comfortable with, but save about half of what you get for unlocking later weapons (if you have not already unlocked everything).

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And get the codex from Achilles for a few other ways to get Titan Blood.

dusty vault
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There is also the pinned guide for aspects leveling

restive portal
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But I'd say your favourite weapon should generally get some degree of priority regardless of whatever anyone says. If you don't enjoy the style of a weapon, ignore it for now.

gusty phoenix
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ive unlocked all weapons

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is the gun any good?

final dune
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yes

gusty phoenix
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is there some kinda rating/tierlist for these weapons

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or it just depends on the player

final dune
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its like

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shield rail bow are generally better than fists spear sword

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but otherwise no not rlly

gusty phoenix
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what do the S,A,B,C,E,F stand for?

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their rating?

final dune
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yea

gusty phoenix
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thx homie

fallow hemlock
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I have maxed my relationship status with Charon and acquired this thing called the Unspoken Bond which I still don't understand what it does. Probably just a pretty sticker which I don't mind really

fallow hemlock
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so it is a sticker lol

dusty vault
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all bonds are like that

fallow hemlock
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I guessed as to what it is may be and never expected it to be so

dusty vault
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but (spoilers for way after credits) ||olympian bonds are needed for a certain plot line||

fallow hemlock
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no spoilers but thanks nonetheless

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I like that kind of stuff

dusty vault
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same

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the stickers are so cute

fallow hemlock
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banana tea?

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real??

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guess I'll never know

leaden whale
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Am I the only one who plays in hell mode here?

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Anyone? Do you enjoy it so far?

leaden whale
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Beat the Hydra!

final dune
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nice

marble nimbus
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Q) I have 9 nectars saved up, I am trying to dump them on to Skelly to unlock the companion.. but after giving him 1 nectar, I cant Gift again?

raw coral
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You can only gift anyone once between runs

polar furnace
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is there any specific strategy to farming darkness? or do i just gun for poseidon and chaos with god's pride on the ||easiest heat||

dusty vault
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taking your fastest weapon over a weapon you aren't comfortable with but has dark thirst can be good too

polar furnace
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gotcha, thanks, i've been wanting to max out my mirror

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not having ||all fated persuasions rolls|| is getting kinda annoying

dusty vault
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(only post final boss things need to be spoiler marked btw)

polar furnace
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oh i didnt realise ||heat|| was after your first clear, gotcha

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should i swap out dark foresight for olympian favour btw? does dark foresight decrease my chances of seeing a darkness room

dusty vault
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it does but tbh I don't think is worth it

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darkness rooms are 10 base darkness

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unless you have a lot of bonus from it, ehhh

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most of the darkness comes from the big drops from the bosses

polar furnace
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wait yeah you're right thats only 12 darkness with dark thirst lol

marble nimbus
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Q) New player here.. I am using the Spear and just got the upgrade that lets me spam my Attack. My attacks have Heartbreak Strike (Attacks inflict weak), should I replace it with Curse of Agony (attacks inflict doom)? if all my attacks inflict Doom thats really good right? or should I keep foes weak? I struggle vs bosses

dull terrace
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keep that as Aphro due to high dmg modifier with a status is more preferrable than just a status that does 1 burst of dmg

gentle juniper
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is high tolerance a duo boon?

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its the last dionysis boon im missing till the prophacy and i cant seem to find it

final dune
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no

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it's

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you need his cast as prereq

gentle juniper
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ah i see

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i rarely get cast upgrades so that makes sense

final dune
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theyre good

gentle juniper
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i just always forget to use cast

boreal stag
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How do you get legendary and heroic boons? Is it just luck? I have the max amount of darkness in the mirror for the more likelihood of finding one. I've only found one once

final dune
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heroic is from rarity upgrades at eurydice or ||demeter||

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legendary is getting prerequisites

dusty vault
prime bolt
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Having an "issue" with getting the final aspect on the twin fists
||I've talked to Asterius a few times using each different aspect for the twins fists but he hasn't given the waking phrase. Is it just a chance he gives it or is something bugged?||

sweet brook
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it's just a chance

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dialogue rng moment

boreal stag
final dune
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to the legendary

leaden whale
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Damn Elysium shield men are so hard

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Struck in Elysium....

restive portal
gentle juniper
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any tips for getting hidden aspects?

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beyond just like

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play more