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Unlocking hidden spear needs you to unlock 5 non zag aspects
Other weapons is just invest 5 blood in the weapon
Alright just making sure
Just rng. This comes up all the time in this chat.
You'll get it if you keep playing. That's all you can do.
The more dialogues you do the further you will get.
By depleting storylines and other options and such
Im gonna answer in #h1-discussion cuz thats a lot of spoilers (which please spoiler mark about ||demeter||
so i did all the requirements for the hidden aspect of the sword, but nyx won't give me the dialogue
like, she ran out of dialogue
and i did over 20 suicide runs and nothing changed
Ight so the dude above me has a point cause i got it 2nd try (The first one was Story lines), the only difference we have is that i UNLOCKED the last aspect of the Spear
lmao nevermind he didn't "unlock" the spear, he got the Dialog but when he unlocked it the game crashed and we though he had it unlocked
1 whole day spend for nothing 💀
dumb question: what key do I press to pause on the steam version?
Also, is there a common preference for using a mouse vs not when playing the steam version if there isn't a controller available?
Found it being esc for the pause menu....that makes a lot of sense.

As in completely ignoring the mouse? Or do you mean relying on auto aim but still using the mouse
completely ignoring the mouse
It’s a memey way of playing the game. Some people have done it but it’s kinda tough, on some weps it’s nearly unplayable. In terms of which one is better it’s easily kbm. On some weapons, mainly rail, you turn off aim at cursor so the auto aim takes over the attack and makes it more accurate.
I just started playing Hades a couple days ago and am LOVING IT
I have almost all the weapons so far and want to think of a good build. My favorite weapon is the Eternal Spear and I like Aphrodite builds best. Do you have any suggestions on a good build route to take could be?
do u have aspects yet?
spear isnt super good without aspect
youd need a lot of buffs to pull off like bablo 525
I still enjoy using it
but if you're gonna use it
but assume I can use aspects I am close to unlocking them
well then
just use achilles
start
uh
you can start tidal dash deadly strike or slicing shot
if you want a better start with more rng on if u get the build do tidal
if you want attack boon first deadly strike
if you want cast first slicing shot
and then get the artemis/ares duo hunting blades
for achilles your rotation is tap special twice very quickly and then doing two dash strikes
look for flurry jab hammer
k
dont take any special hammers on spear generally they suck
except exploding launcher is good
oh
yeah
so
let me
well
if you like spear
you can just go ahead and unlock achilles
it's the best spear aspect by far
What does raging rush do?
video
you rush to your special
and then for the next 4 attacks/casts they get buffed
between +50% and +150% based on aspect level
and tbh
my least favorite part of the spear
is retrieving it
so this seems perfect
oh yeah dont use special unless you have exploding launcher or are on achilles
you dont have to use all parts of your kit
so im kinda new, but does anyone else agree that using the bow is just not fun and kinda sucks
7:37 they were mashing so hard they hit the menu button
actually thats pause scumming lol
to see where enemies are
(that's my vid btw)
yeah like i said im pretty new, so idrk how to use it, so it makes it hard to play with
It is a range weapon so you gotta sit back, if you want to get up close and personal that isn't the weapon for you
gotcha
for bow you need to be doing dash strike power shots
actually
at relatively high level
all weapons in this game are melee weapons
or well
high performance
staying back can be safer but you're dealing less damage often that way
is using the bow right all abt timing pretty much?
but yeah more importantly bow is just dash strike power shots
learning that is the thing most conducive to your success with the weapon
oh ok
ok yeah that makes more sense, ive only got like 17hrs in the game rn, so only have a few completions
kinda just been messing around seeing how things work yk
Bow is all about dash striking into your power shot because dash strikes charge faster
Becomes a rhythm game
Going way simpler, Zeus on spear special to hit once on the throw and once on the return if you time it right is fun.
Spear throw and recall kinda slow and not a lot of damage for what it's worth lmao
You're also stationary when you recall it right?
yea
Less so without the aspect upgraded
50% is still a lot
+50% is a lot
I'm trying to work with out of the box stuff here
Honestly 0% buff on hunting blades is fine lmao
Pretty sure they were telling this to someone who enjoys base spear and isn't some speedrunner extraordinaire like y'all who have been playing since release
Achilles beams I've found more conducive to survival.
i got the game on christmas 2022 lol
I haven't been playing since release, and that doesn't really discredit my point
It's not a lot of damage and you're likely to get hit a lot because of the charge and recall animations
It's risky with no benefit
spear in general takes more boons to build
Or very little benefit
Tbh ye fair point. But like he said he was just trying to show me something fun and not the "meta"
Stuff that worked for me before I had all the aspects upgraded.
because higher frequency
if you wanna get really basic with it heartbreak strike on any spear will work fine
Oh lol no swearing allowed here?
it's just that you can pretty easily get some higher damage
and also cast builds imo are generally more interesting than non cast build for unaspected weps
Which I understand
Just saying I appreciate hearing opinions besides the meta choices
when i was new i totally discounted actually using the cast
Gotta balance that with safety/ease of use. Some weapons are generally actually ranged when not under time pressure, just trying to survive.
Very fun. Require a little more knowledge on how to build for them but I think almost all my ||32+ heat|| clears are cast builds.
I really started doing that too but I have started using it more
||heat|| is a spoiler here
because im a shill for my super awesome videos im gonna post a little cast video here :3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spAYBbvxrL0
The other aspects definitely make cast builds more fun/feasible
How so?
le epic hidden shield
Some empower casts with percent bonus which is a big deal for casts which have fewer ways to get percent bonus than attack or special, and upgrade base damage when pommed.
Some let you load casts into attacks.
Mainly those two ig lol.
the castspects are
hidden shield
hera
eris
achilles
poseidon
talos
thinkthats it
each weapon has 1 yeah
oh yeah
some are much better than others
never noticed that
some are pretty disappointing lmao
Cast builds arguably benefit the most from the right duo boons which are easier to grab with fully upgraded mirror
le talos
there are 2 users alive who do not struggle with talos
and even they struggle with talos
castpects are the fastest aspects to play lmao
dark foresight is so busted lol
Fastest in terms of speed running?
OK I have gathered from this. . . Very easy to understand conversation that I will be using Achilles Spear
And I reckon Poseidon and Zeus go well with Aphrodite?
aph and pos have no particular synergy
the duo is ok
zeus and aph have smoldering air which is a really good duo
yeah and also general clearing tbh
they're just strong
a lot of top aspects that are recommended to players are castpects lmao
namely hera and eris
achilles if they like spear
the only exception is talos
talos kinda just exists
Achilles with artemis attack makes mathematical sense and also can lead to some good cast builds.
I mostly just meant the dash
?
oh
well i mean
that's jutsa really good boon lol
you can go through a run with that as your only damage source and do fine
Alrighty
I was really hyped when I got a duo boon in-game today cus I had 0 clue about them before
I just got super surprised when the dialog kicked in and them BOOM! Duo Boons
Which one?
Unshakable Mettle
Artemis and Aphrodite
The one with increased crit chance or damage on Weakened targets
Increased damage when critting
Gotcha
But yeah, that one can be super good with weak application and crit chance.
Ye that one
heart rend is cool
Ye I just like Aphrodite's abilities and as a beginner the damage-boosting dash is incredibly appealing
Especially with Spear's dash hitbox
Just the Dash I think
I thought you had aphrodite dash
Aphrodite attack better
nbd either way, I'm sure you'll see a lot more
Was the Hades rank always green?
lol out of nowhere sweeping opinion
I run aphrodite attack when I can, I usually prefer other dashes like Poseidon or Artemis
on spear?
does artemis dash unlock heart rend? I would think not.
on achilles aph atk is p much useless compared to arty
no
it doesn’t crit
heart rend not being dependent on a crit chance boon would be silly lol
I don't know about Achilles specifically. I don't use it
lol
What does heart rend do again?
Right
heart rend increases crit damage from 3x o 4.5x
achilles is fun
but like, crit damage which is separate from the percent most percent boosts get added to
achilles v fun
Don't like it tbh
it might be my fav
i only like achilles and hidden spear
mainly because the other 2 spears are garbo but whatever
I've had good times with all the spears
i’m not playing a spear that i can’t get flurry or cskewer on so i’m not touching hades and zagspear is just worse achilles
talos and ||arthur|| are both very whatever
||hidden sword||
I spent a lot of time with zag spear chasing down all the hammers you can't get with other aspects. Probably could've thrown some spintime in there.
i mean the only hammers u can’t get on achilles are some special ones
and special hammers suck
i mean there’s exploding launcher
which is fine but also is not flurry
and what else
flurry is literally just too satisfying to ever pass up
These absolutes feel like a disservice to the game
All the flurries are fun.
Also, all the furies.
huh
Hidden sword is the coolest weapon in the game tbh
I feel like I'd like it if I could figure out dashing mid combo
Big sword kill fast
big sword kill slow 
Don't even need it. Standing strike strong enough
that's jazz bait
?
dash strikes are better but also are annoying because of the weird delay sort of thing
on other swords you press dash mouse1 and can instantly do it again
I just assume jazz will strongly disagree with that on an emotional level lol
on hidden you have to wait it out
Do most people keep the default computer button layout?
I don't recall the exact methods but something about hidden sword apparently makes standing strikes about as good as dash strikes with it
but it’s fine and i’m not relearning hestia rotation on anything else
special on mouse does seem better if wanting to dash special (which I guess is rare)
I can never get the dash uppercuts on fists to work tbh
standing strikes are just too slow
Not when you get Aphrodite attack and just delete everything
but you could also do that on hestia a million times faster
That's what I did for things that are spoilers in this chat
with more safety
is a hidden sword swing actually the same timing as a hestia shot?
And you can beat the entire game extremely simply and safely with hidden shield. Should we just only use the best weapons in the game?
or on hidden bow with way more damage
hail no
way slower
hestia is roughly every 0.75s
no but arthur actually doing well comes from dash strikes
Idk I've yet to need them
how long is hidden?
dash strikes, not dash combo?
Come to #h1-discussion this is off topic for new players
the 200 base comes every 3 hits
ah that's what you're comparing to
You can just dash between the swings without breaking the combo which adds a lot of mobility to the weapon and makes it less clunky overall.
If your goal is to go fast tho it’s not very worth doing.
Dash strikes mostly stronger in that regard.
Requires some pretty precise timing, doesn't it?
no
you can just mash attack and dash
the wep has tech because they specifically made it easier to dash between strikes
Neat
27 attempts now and still no full clear but i have gotten to the last boss 5 times now (I presume last boss). Been levelling up the mirror where possible and I now have the ability for more than 1 revive so things should get easier now. Also unlocked chaos shield and enjoying doom builds!
Keep at it!
my first clear was 51 runs.. and now im like.. pretty ok at hades.
i watch a lot of new players on twitch and it seems like most ppl get it in like 20-30. but rly theres no right number, often twitch pppl get help from chat and stuff its hard to estimate whats normal
like carrot guy said, just keep at it.. "there is no escape"
It took me like 50 I think.
im sure it took me at least 10 to even beat meg lol
Rolling Knuckle
Your Dash Strike does 60+% damage; added to Attack sequence.
What does that mean?
your attack normally finishes with the 5th normal punch
that hammer adds the dash strike as a combo finisher
what were the other 2 options btw
Does bull rush count as an attack?
yus
They were all dash strike/uppers, which I hate using.
if u mean breaching cross thats the best fists hammer
Im new and I dont really understand much about boosts
also dont know which weapons to pick
The shield is like ass
just use what u want to
What option should I choose for chaos
wdym
For boosts
what
I have rolling affluence, casting soul, and atrophic grasp as options
caustic?
well
what weapon are you on
these things generally depend
for chaos you want to balance a good curse with a good boon
caustic soul isn't that bad
Sword
because the curse isn't too bad and health is nice
atrophic grasp is good on cast builds but whatever on other builds
for sword you want % bonuses on your attack and special
but none of those are here
affluence is nice but roiling is really bad
so i'd take caustic soul
Cant do atrophic because I only have 50 health
athena is your friend for the projectiles parts
get close and use any attack or move that has deflect
Whats the best weapon for this fight
Also tried but she kept doing aoe attack
just keep moving away from that
dash out of it
if you managed to get a call , kill the enemies she spawn to use the greater call
Call?
i mean
forgot that there is some time between the call and start of save
the best way to get good at furies is to play more
you don't need to do anything in particular at this point
recommendations will generally only go against the natural learning process because this is like less than 10 runs in
Whats a call
jazz , change that to meg not furies
it's whatever
you'll see on your 4th run i think
Ive done like 20 runs
are you sure
Is it the thing on the left side
the game forces you into a call on one of your first runs
wdym
it makes you take one
I dont remember that
then u havent gotten it yet
Ive done so many runs
i think you gotta get to asphodel before getting it
it's literally run 5
2 weapons left and 5 keys rn
Definitely more than 5 runs
Oh
Its the boosts things
Im stupid
you can't use call until you got a actual call from one of your gods
Is the call like the thing you interact with and u get 3 options
no
call is the 5th core boon
the game forces you into taking poseidon's call
call is not a core boon
its a core but not a priority one
generally thats not referred to as core
we call those options boons
Is call the things on the sides
call is where you press f after building up a meter
call is one of them
and it does something based on whose god you got it frolm
it's called an Aid in game
in boon titles
Think ive done that
Is it different than summon
yes
wdym
this early in the game i'd say avoid ares generally because he can be good but only with game knowledge
It'll get easier once you get used to the enemy moves
Also once you unlock more stuff like mirror upgrades.
o yea
having 2nd dash is the most important upgrade on the entire mirror
you should prioritize that over everything else
Anyone have tips for fishing? I can never seem to get the timing right
You need to wait fot the buoy/float to completly submurge, then pull
small bits that move it slightly doesn't mean you'll catch anything.
That's why you probably get the "too early" prompt, right?
Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.
Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.
A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.
Thank you both!
Good hunting stalker
I remember Meg being my biggest setback, after her it was all ownage, till I met REDACTED
Oh man did I struggle
Saaaaame 😫 I’m only now at 70% godhood and i’m exhausteddd
I’ve beaten Meg without too much trouble. Keep getting stuck either on redacted or on the Elysium boss. I’ll make it eventually, just taking my time
Is there any way to get a specific boon to show up besides the trinkets you get from gifting to them?
and do the odds of a certain boon showing depend on your other boons, or on your weapon?
Not specific boons, but you can (not sure how spoiler this is, so added anyway) ||toggle them using a
mirror aspect||.
There are boons that depend on others, yes.
Your codex explains that in detail
Not like the duo boons I was meaning, more like let’s say if your first boon is from ares then you’d be more likely to get a boon from Aphrodite or something like that, regardless of the synergy between the boons
Never dived into the code so can't say for sure, but it
do seems like it sometimes
the keepsakes are extremely strong
no
Alright
no interactions like that
it would suck if u got forced into aph on basically any build involving ares lol
now if you got athena and artemis…
So 100% random?
That's good to know
check in the administration chamber does it say Escaped or Fell
spoiler this btw
|| ||
Aside from keepsakes, gods are random
hermes is diff ofc
Well Hermes is effectively a different hammer
nah that’s just my speedcord nick lol
The next logical evolution of that name would be
azz, after that... we'll see

but yea my name is jazz
Hi hungry I'm dad
how do i unlock wepons secrete aspects?
#h1-story-discussion pins
thanks
Hilarious
After 31 attempts I got my first completed run! I think it should have been sooner but I had a few runs with sloppy deaths
That's the genre
I need some help for unlock the heart for hypnos and Achilles , i dont understand the wiki😅
I'll dm to not spoiler anyone else
Just completed my first full run
nice
|| What does the boiling blood effect do btw besides affect your screen? ||
yes
alr
Are some hammers only available for certain aspects? I've been trying to finish the fists for soooooo long. 😭
yup, what hammer are you looking for?
(tho iirc wiki says what hammer is excluded from each aspect)
Thank you! Give me a minute to beat the game, and I can say.
Okay, I need Flurry Jab from the spear, and Rush Kick and Kinetic Launcher from the fists. I always use Talos (magnet) because it's super fun with Poseidon special.
RK is apparently incompatible both with Talos AND KL. I sob. KL is incompatible with a whole load of others. Sigh. I'm gonna hate these runs.
Try Dem fists. They're really strong with Kinetic Launcher.
Rush Kick can be fun on Dem too. It's not the greatest hammer.
For Flurry Jab incompatible with 3rd and 4th spear.
(also remember to not pick up hammers that block the ones you want)
Thanks! Hopefully, rng is nice to me.
what do you do after beating the final boss (i have not done it yet) is there like a new boss or new objectives or something?
oh sorry i just realized the channel rules sorry
i even read it the rules but my mind didnt comprehend it lmao
You didn't reveal anything important, don't worry. There are many quests to complete, and you will find out once you get there.
While there are many things to do, even after those are done, the game still a roguelike. You go and do it again in a different way
I have over 500 hrs, and I finished everything around 250
Plus can you set your own challenges with the ||heat settings|| 
it took me 400+ runs to max out/unlock everything if you include stuff like completing the codex, getting all the different clear messages and reaching the final badge rank (those aren't spoilers right?) there's tons of stuff to do
Im at like 126 and I've finished everything except the themes, and the badge unlocks, and I have some side little story threads that are still finishing off (Nyx and Dusa, etc)
I've stopped really grinding gems and darkness though, and just going for high heat runs, so the grinds gonna slow down for those final themes and badges
Hello there. Can I ask for|| how to forge the bonds further here?
I just need Cerberus and Hermes to be done, but I don't know how to progress with them||
They're all on the wiki. For Hermes you just need to talk to him with his keepsake maxed and equipped. I dont remember Cerberus.
Where's the wiki please?
Cerberus: ||You just need to pet him a bunch after you get to his locked heart, and then die and come back.||
Thank you two!
for hermes, ||talk to him while wearing the maxed out lambent plume||
I can't even beat the first boss 💀
thats just roguelites for yah...start weak and then when you hit your stride nothing can beat you
Took me about 30runs for my first clear recently and now I’ve cleared it roughy 6/7 times in 45runs
||you killed Hades after 30 runs?||
spoiler
i haven't even beat the first boss and i know that
ok but you can spoiler it so other people aren't spoiled
thank you
the boons where after you hit enemies you get health is so op
what boons
that doesnt exist
the only things like that are cursed slash and draining cutter and another thing tht is a spoilr
none of which r actually that good
i got that early game
?
after maxing out the Darkness mirror, what do the keys do?
trade ins, unlock something later (lots of keys), and reroll your darkness mirror talents
ok
I’m going to buy hades on ps5 today any useful tips?
have fun
tips in early parts of the game are detrimental imo to the experience
once you have more speciifc things to ask go for it but for now i'd just recommend having fun with it
although one useful tip
if you have a pc, probably buy it there instead
I have been told the bosses are hard. How hard are we talking?
not very
I don’t I’m a console gamer
significantly scales with your general ability at roguelites and your meta progression
you need to grind a bit but its not like elden ring
i mean
the grind basically solely involves actually playing the game
you just pick up rewards along the way and might change your decision making somewhat
thats a better way of saying it
I looked up gameplay and it looks very fun. Is there a weapon better than others?
there is not
there are 6 weapons and 3 of them are generally better than the other 3 but you can still do everything you want with them
up until the very extremes the bottleneck will basically never be your weapon
So your saying I could use the same weapon the whole game
So the bosses don’t play like a from soft game boss
well yeah i mean it's a 2d game
The thing that interests me the most from what I saw in the gameplay clip is all the dialogue
game has a lot of story elements yea
personally i think there is just enough dialogue and gameplay
everytime you talk to an npc its like 3-7 slides of dialogue
But your saying it’s not so difficult in terms of difficulty like Sekiro. That is a hard game
no, if something is too difficult youre just not upgraded enough yet
of you have a bad build that round
or*
But if I die to a boss the first time that doesn’t mean I’m a bad player right
no not at all
My skill just isn’t high enough I guess
its a very rewarding game, im not a very good gamer myself but i found that if i die its a chance to upgrade and get further the next round
One of my friends said in the first area he died like ten times at least before he made it to the boss
So is that normal
it didnt take me that long but everyone has their own experience
What if I’ve never played a roguelite
Isn’t three a difficulty option not that I would change it because no challenge is kind of boring
there is god mode
Guessing you one hit everything
I’d probably use the regular setting
I want to have the same experience as everyone else
God mode doesn't really change your experience tbh
It's just a slightly easier game, everything is the same otherwise
ima say soemthing got godmode here : brimstones and other enemies alike ( also poison ) aren't reduced it keeps dealing 1 dmg
it's still pain to deal with
i mean they cant reduce it
well i guess they could take the sure footing lava approach
but that would be weird
lava still does alot
it still ramps up
How’s the controls on ps5 for hades?
i know you have to remap reload
otherwise they're fine but change them around however you want
What do you mean re map
In settings, you can change which buttons do what.
Attack plus dash is a very common combination, so make sure those are comfy to hit at the same time before muscle memory sets in.
the reload button defaults to like pressing in the right stick or something
which is bad
rolling a to x is a common way of doing this
<@&456908176877551658>, also got spammed in a few other channels
Bananas trying to keep people from making an easy 50k smh my head
We want all that money for ourselves!!!

So most of the control scheme on ps5 I’m okay with but what would you recommend the move options changed to along with reload
afaik the controls on everything is fine other than the reload, from what i hear from controller players
honestly just do whatever feels comfortable for you, there's really no wrong answer
i play kbm and rebound a couple of stuff, others use the defaults on kbm, etc
Wouldn’t the movement be easier for movement if you use the left stick on controller
also reload is specific to 1 specific weapon, so you wont have to worry about it that much
is left stick not default
i've never heard of a game that made the right stick default for movement
No on the controls the default movement are the arrows
you can use the stick sstill
lol
Seriously you can
yea
it's all preference but thats what they use
idk what these mean ive never used a playstation controller
Who's keybinds are these lmao
put that somewhere idk you dont press that often
I swap codex and reload usually
ye
I r happened upon a room twice with these yellow skeleton enemies
the only major tip is that dashes have iframes unless you attack during the dash
otherwise just play
Aight thanks
Jazz I really like it so far
it’s very fun
Those skeleton bomb dudes those are meant to be hard right. They also have more life
What should i prioritize the keys or getting nectar
Noted noted
How do I use ambrosia?(big Nectar bottle)
trade for blood (I did this often, early) or use them after you unlock the locked heart in each character
I tried to unlock the hades locked heart did not work
his is...different. Story based
to clarify, you need to UNLOCK the heart by another means, and THEN you can use Ambrosia
you dont unlock the heart with the ambrosia
You need to unlock their favor before you can gift ambrosia
would ESCAPING be required to further bedchambers conversations with Meg ? I feel like other convos are keeping her from spawning there
which characters have a locked heart?
all of them at some point
basically when you reach a certain point with a character you need to do something for that character to progress further (unlock the heart)
yeah it's different for every character, and after the unlock you then need Ambrosia, not nectars to go further with them
@craggy root
so i dont have enough necter yet ok
Note- some characters need to be talked to with their trinkets maxed out.
Hi, was wondering if going through levels would force you to meet the boss, or if you can simply choose to stay within the “part” you’re in to collect boons or coins. Sorry for the weird wording, i don’t know how else to phrase it lol
no
you have to fight the boss
So the game automatically forces you to fight meg/hydra/theseus after x amount of levels/rooms?
furies is in c14, lernie is in c24, heroes in c36
changes if you have chaos extension
||erebus|| is a spoiler
Oh okay, thank you!
Is anyone's favorite god ||Demeter|| in terms of boons? I'm having difficulty adapting to their playstyle. It seems that their boons are much less collaborative with other gods, and require a significant amount of luck to synergize effectively. Cast can be powerful but only if you obtain most of the relevant boons. ||Chill|| is kinda underwhelming as a status.
I like decay, rare crop, and of course revenge, but other than that, eh.
||demeter|| is a spoiler in this channel btw lol
no she stinks
and also spoiler
Apologies! it's corrected
she basically only has one boon that's really good and it's only really good on like two aspects
her attack/special at epic can be fine on %-taking weps
iirc she has a few unpommables, which are nice
but other than that she's pretty eh most of the time
best keepsake?
god keepsakes
what if you already have all the thingies you need
wdym
Acorn and hourglass are pretty much the only other ones that are used in Elysium and Styx
Hourglass is more niche tho
A note- at least one trinket has to be maxed and equipped for you to unlock story bits.
what?
||Hermes||. No matter how often I ran or talked to him, he only opened up once I maxed his trinket.
that's only him
no other god is like that
his favor is completed by having max plume equipped
but that doesn't apply to literally anyone else
Idk probably like sub15 or sub20 minutes if you haven't looked up any materials lmao
Idrk tbh
im at sub 11 but only cos i got really lucky and struggling to beat it
have u watched
Community Discord: https://discord.gg/zN7cc8Z
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Text version of this guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16aaLsNytmQFv9JCJN4huTzGqQAREDGezD_fkQe5b4Ms/edit
Collection of other guides: https://www.speedrun.com/hades/guide/1i726
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:44 Leaderboard Categories
1:36 Getting Star...
Also if you're speedrunning I recommend not using this channel lmao
If you're speedrunning you should've reached the credits already probably
im new tho-
i started lke 5 days ago
I mean
Have you reached the credits lmao
Most people who speedrun have already reached the credits at that point
yeah i have
Yeah this channel is mainly for players who haven't reached the credits yet to avoid spoilers
Even tho you started 5 days ago lmao
You're free to ask about speedrunning and build stuff in other channels tho ofc
There's also a speedrunning discord pinned in #self-promotion if you wanna ask any questions about it there
ok thanks
What's considered the easiest weapon to make it past the third floor?
the one you like the most
Ok I expected as much, thanks 🙂
most people settle on meg because the speed in which it does its damage
most reliable to land
oka
Bouldy is used when you are doing a farm run. Meg is usually for speed runs.
Meg is just generally the best. Not only for speedruns.
drops quick and does a lot of damage in a large area
ok
also how do you get bouldy like the gifting nectar thingo thing do you just max out sisyphus
You get summons from the first Ambrosia.
You fill people up with nectar, their heart may/may not be locked for a bit, do a few runs or specific quests (like freeing people from contracts- this requires talking to Nyx), then when they unlock, they want Ambrosia instead.
is there a way i can show a list of duo boons in the game ?
the fated prophecies list has all the duos listed there i believe
it won't tell you the prereqs or anything like that but it does list them
otherwise there's the codex
also the wiki
ty
spoiler
but ||yes, on hell mode you get bounties between 5 and 25 heat||
unless you haven't cleared yet
come back after clear
it's complicated
Finally I beat Hades! Thank you for your advice
I'd spoiler that
why-
what is a foe specifically, do bosses count ?
Yeah any enemy counts
How would you make a built in general?
I've always just slap on anything I feel like at the time ever sine I started playing
For the basics you use % boons (as in add dmg to your base weapon) to anything with high base dmg
And use flat dmg (zeus, dio mainly) on quick but weak hits
You can use the keepsakes from the gods to force them to appear
also how do you unlock the last sword?
Check pins in #h1-story-discussion
isn't % boon only Artemis?
aphro-athena-pos-artemis and ||demeter||
aphro has the highest % modifier
?
crit isn't always necessary
what I mean with % boons for example is taking aphro attack boon will add a 50%-100% dmg to your weapon depending on rarity
I thought she just weaken the enemies and that's it
nope
artemis also adds a small % dmg bonus on top of the ability to crit
athena adds % dmg and deflect and so on
Q) Hello. Brand new player here (<5 hours). Thesues is kicking my ass. Any tips? I am using the crossbow item
Try to down Asterius first while hiding behind the pillars from Theseus. If you mean for the solo phase, wait for him to throw his spear and attack after he calls it back.
when Theseus is summoning a god he's also totally open to attacks
dashing through him, attack them dashing though him again to just keep dodging the attacks is free dmg
or if you have any call of your own saved
Does fighting Minotaur alone is a previous Encounter help in teh final boss fight?
it slightly lowers his hp
im getting very headache about so many gods and i dont know how do I combo them together to make it good..
Is there any tips on which god should I pick?
Not really since it depends on what weapon you prefer to play. I'd say to try to find what combos work for you since it's what roguelikes are about. There are definitely builds that are better than others, but if you're just starting off, most stuff works decently well.
Runs also restrict you to 4 gods, excluding Hermes, so you can try to pick synergies based on that.
Oka thank you so much radish
what radiah said^ just try everything find out what you like. eventually ul become familiar enough to start understanding the differences and start thinkin about ur favorites and how they work with each weapon etc
but ur better off not worrying about it too much for a while
basic "universal" tips
flat damage boons are better for faster attacks
% increases are better for slower attacks
athena dash pretty much always a good choice
generaly don't want more than 1 hangover boon
How do you unlock assist like ||Megara||?
Further your relationship with them
(If you check your codex and they the hearts are at a lock, you need to do a favor for them)
Q) Bradn new player here. How can I check what I have completed with what weapons? I ask just to know what my rewards will be for a Escape attempt
open the screen for starting escape
shows ||heat gauge||
if u wanna see that sort of stuff tho u can use the administrative chamber
No
so basically
im going to #h1-discussion because spoilering everything here is annoying, also spoiler that
Can ||Excalibur|| even dash-strike?
every weapon and aspect can dash strike
||Arthur ||is just weird because it can also dash + your main attack. Which as far as I know is still just a normal attack with a dash inbetween
Q) On the second Lava level, I did the "upgrade 4 boons"... but only 1 of my boons got upgraded, eventho I have multiple boons (when I press B they show up).
its 4 individual pom upgrades, so it could all go into the same boon 4 times
or split 4 ways
@marble nimbus
it cant go into the same boon
chances are most of your boons couldn't be pommed
could you send a screenshot/tell us what boons you have?
I didnt know that was possible. How can I check in the future?
you have to memorize which ones can't be pommed
but just think of any boon that gives resources or some effects (like sunken treasure or life affirmation)
For reference purposes; Unpommable Boons:
Artemis:
None
Ares:
-Dire Misfortune
-Engulfing Vortex
-Blood Frenzy
Athena:
-Last Stand
-Deathless Stand
-Sure Footing
Aphrodite:
-Life Affirmation
-Blown Kiss
-Broken Resolve
||Demeter:
-Rare Crop
-Ravenous Will
-Nourished Soul
-Arctic Blast
-Killing Freeze
||
Dionysus:
-Premium Vintage
-Strong Drink
-After Party
Poseidon:
-Sunken Treasure
-Ocean's Bounty
Zeus:
None
Compiled by Bright01
Thanks... but I had:
- Flayed Florish (I also had Deadly Florish that got updated, but Flayed Florish didnt)
- Maimed Lunge
- Curse of Vengence
Thsese 3 didnt get PoMed
really? then I'm delusional
about curse of vengeance
weird, what are all your boons rn?
would be amazing if it could, imagine +4 lvls on a cast lol
I have those above boons, and a couple new ones as I am still playing...
so at the time of taking the +4 poms only artemis special was upgrade and you only had that + curse of vengeance?
Only Deadly Florish was upgraded, the other 3 I mentioned above were not
def weird for CoV
Yo what's a good aspect other then the bow I'm trying out new aspect and anyone got a recommendation?
i am a big fan of G U N
Which aspect
hestia is my favorite bc its reliable and easy but ita kinda boring
the one that gives u damage boost when u hit urself with the special is probably the best one
Hestia is good but ultimately 
hestia is mega high apm
Any shield is fun imo
Q) If I unlock admin privalge, can I revisit the room anytime? or is it only a one-time privilage?
nevermind I unlocked it
it's's high APM if rockets are worth using...but you need to get pretty lucky with hammers for that to be a thing
you still use special
unless you're going for speed I feel like I'd almost just rather have the mobility, but yeah incorporating special into your rotation is essential if you ever want to go fast with Hestia
How does using the special on rail not make you mobile
because it has an animation lock if your dash isnt up.
that’s why it’s high apm lol
you do animation cancels
Q) Does Chimery Jerky stack (ie. will I get +40% + 40% =80 bonus to my Special?)
Yes, this applies to almost every well item
Same could be said about the rail attack I'm pretty sure
You guys got any more aspect other then how and hestia?
did u try them
Zag bow isn't bad actually, if you can get a hang for the power shot
Got some on hesit don't really care for it
Yes
what lvl
kind of
if you are going to play Hestia and are on a controller, change the reload button. I swapped it to L1
3+ works
chaos works fine at lvl1 or even lvl0
because gimmick useless
really it’s 0 extra shields
because no matter the level you just don’t use the special
and even if you do use the special they all miss anyways
that special is so bad 
chiron and chaos are the 2 raccoons battling in the dumpster for who has the more clunky gimmick
You can charge and throw your shield! But you have to wait for your shield to come back from it's round trip to Singapore before you can charge again.
hey that's just across the border if you live in malaysia - pretty short trip
lol I just watched a youtube video on Singapore airlines, and Newark to Singapore was one of the longest flights, why it came to mind 
Hi im new.
How hard is Hell mode?
Can I switch back to normal later?
just started playing.
no
Pretty hard for a new player and it has some restrictions
Not worth starting on it imo. Later on you can create another file or toggle it using mods
Or just download a hell mode save
Thanks
My habit to play games on hard mode.
Let's see.
I feel called out that Chiron and chaos are my most used 😭. Chiron has gotten me the majority of my clears too
chiron is so fun
what do u like to use for special?
so many great options
my favorite probably is dio hangover
||Take what people say with a grain of salt. Chiron is just slow, so a lot of speed runners or high heat players have gravitated away from it. But it absolutely is probably one of the easiest 32-40 heat Aspects there is||
Hestia is kind of just a better Chiron (with slightly less boss DPS if you have a good Chiron build)
def more dps
hestia has clockets
||I havent gotten clockets on hestia since my 32 runs. AP2 unmodded is pain.||
also spoiler this
and this
forgot where we were
are you not doing hazard???
No discussion of heat? Arent we discussing hard mode already?
yeah spoiler it
or is it the aspects
it's after final boss
can't you see the|| pacts|| before the boss if you have hell mode?
yeah but also people might backread who arent on hell mode
||yeah I got a lucky hazard on my 45 run that definitely saved the run. But been getting jack squat on my 50 attempts which have lead to time outs.||
finally beat maaera
God dayum nice
Hello, I am still confused about the Family Favourite mirror power thing and how it works. Can someone lend a hand?
Family Favourite is a global damage boost, meaning it applies to all the damage that Zagreus deals. Once maxed, everytime you encounter a new god and choose a boon from them, they get added to your pool of gods and give you a +5% global damage boost, this only applies to onlympians.
So if I had, lets say, 3 boons from diffrent gods I would get a 15% damage buff; is that how it works?
yes
what do i do with the bond from cerebeus? do i get something from it?
You get a cute sticker next to the keepsake when looking at the cabinet
Nothing gameplay important
Noooooooooooooooooo
yeah ik i got it
You get to pet the best boy as many times as you want ...
Legend has it that this question will never and shall remain unanswered for the rest of enternity
you always do tho...
Get a load of this guy right here
and that's the best part about it
free real estate
is it fine if i ||max affinity with magaera|| before I ||unlock aphrodite's favor?||
yea
sweet, been wanting to get ||her companion|| for a while now
how do i beat this game..
i still dont know how to get the more of that red stuff to unlock more weapon aspects
Beat the first boss with each weapon
Trade resources at the house for it
Complete prophecies
Buy 1 in the final area shop
The most efficient method is unlocked after your first win
thank u
what’s the best weapon in ur opinion?
For you rn, just the weapon you are most comfortable with
Everything will work great
Though when you do get more Titan Blood, plan where to spend it with a bit of thought. In general it's not easy to come by at first and some weapons don't need much to be very useful but others need you to invest fairly heavily to get good results. Also, don't believe Skelly about the sword (at least until you have blood to spare).
Id say invest a few Titan Blood into the weapon/aspect you have unlocked which you feel most comfortable with, but save about half of what you get for unlocking later weapons (if you have not already unlocked everything).
And get the codex from Achilles for a few other ways to get Titan Blood.
There is also the pinned guide for aspects leveling
But I'd say your favourite weapon should generally get some degree of priority regardless of whatever anyone says. If you don't enjoy the style of a weapon, ignore it for now.
yes
is there some kinda rating/tierlist for these weapons
or it just depends on the player
its like
shield rail bow are generally better than fists spear sword
but otherwise no not rlly
yea
thx homie
I have maxed my relationship status with Charon and acquired this thing called the Unspoken Bond which I still don't understand what it does. Probably just a pretty sticker which I don't mind really
@fallow hemlock
so it is a sticker lol
all bonds are like that
I guessed as to what it is may be and never expected it to be so
but (spoilers for way after credits) ||olympian bonds are needed for a certain plot line||
Beat the Hydra!
nice
Q) I have 9 nectars saved up, I am trying to dump them on to Skelly to unlock the companion.. but after giving him 1 nectar, I cant Gift again?
You can only gift anyone once between runs
is there any specific strategy to farming darkness? or do i just gun for poseidon and chaos with god's pride on the ||easiest heat||
spoiler mark ||heat|| but yeah that's the gist of it
taking your fastest weapon over a weapon you aren't comfortable with but has dark thirst can be good too
gotcha, thanks, i've been wanting to max out my mirror
not having ||all fated persuasions rolls|| is getting kinda annoying
(only post final boss things need to be spoiler marked btw)
oh i didnt realise ||heat|| was after your first clear, gotcha
should i swap out dark foresight for olympian favour btw? does dark foresight decrease my chances of seeing a darkness room
it does but tbh I don't think is worth it
darkness rooms are 10 base darkness
unless you have a lot of bonus from it, ehhh
most of the darkness comes from the big drops from the bosses
wait yeah you're right thats only 12 darkness with dark thirst lol
Q) New player here.. I am using the Spear and just got the upgrade that lets me spam my Attack. My attacks have Heartbreak Strike (Attacks inflict weak), should I replace it with Curse of Agony (attacks inflict doom)? if all my attacks inflict Doom thats really good right? or should I keep foes weak? I struggle vs bosses
keep that as Aphro due to high dmg modifier with a status is more preferrable than just a status that does 1 burst of dmg
is high tolerance a duo boon?
its the last dionysis boon im missing till the prophacy and i cant seem to find it
theyre good
i just always forget to use cast
How do you get legendary and heroic boons? Is it just luck? I have the max amount of darkness in the mirror for the more likelihood of finding one. I've only found one once
heroic is from rarity upgrades at eurydice or ||demeter||
legendary is getting prerequisites
Also replacements
Having an "issue" with getting the final aspect on the twin fists
||I've talked to Asterius a few times using each different aspect for the twins fists but he hasn't given the waking phrase. Is it just a chance he gives it or is something bugged?||
prerequisites to what?
to the legendary
On my first run I got that early, on my last run it took ages. It'll happen.