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pine bone
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i beat every souls game but man this game is way too difficult lol

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cuz u gotta die a lot of times to get upgrades

solid remnant
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it's not THAT hard

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but if you've not played roguelikes before, it isn't easy either

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part of the appeal i suppose

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pleases both camps

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don't be upset at dieing

sweet brook
solid remnant
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all that matters is you made it a bit further or learnt a little more

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also spoiler but not quite

pine bone
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how do i unlock hera on the bow?

solid remnant
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you get all weapons

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then you have the game like

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YO THE WEAPONS BE GLOWING RED

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and you spend titan blood on them

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I'd suggest chiron over hera though

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it isn't that hera is bad

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chiron is just a lot better on low titanblood imho

dusty vault
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Chiron takes more blood to work well

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What

solid remnant
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oh i got it backwards

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never mind lol

dusty vault
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Oh

solid remnant
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i thought chiron was the cast one

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yeah get hera lol

pine bone
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kinda hate cast cuz of the fact that u have to pick it up again

solid remnant
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the cast?

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oh you get a second layer of mirror upgrades once you've spoken to people enough

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the other half makes the case single but regen

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it's better as a default imho

pine bone
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oop my game crashed

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lets hope there is save xd

sweet brook
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More consistent burst damage

solid remnant
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true, i was more saying that their annoyance about picking up the casts can be fixed

final dune
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yea but that is sort of just part of playing a castspect

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stygian kinda sucks except for a few builds

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or hermes odds croven

gentle juniper
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howd my keepsake expire?

final dune
gentle juniper
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during the floor transitions

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i tried to select a keepsake i had used before

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and it said it expired

final dune
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oh

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yeah

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you cant use keepsakes youve used before

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you can keep them on but once you switch off you cant switch back

gentle juniper
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huh ok

solid remnant
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yeah it's that way so you can't cheat with one time effects and rotate back

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lucky tooth being a good example of why it is the way it is

fleet ginkgo
dusty vault
solid remnant
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yeah you can look into thoose items that summon things if you want efficency

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or you can be me

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give the pupper nectar and Orpheus and Eurydice nectar because they got me feeling it

valid crest
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could i ask how can i get the favor for zues?

dusty vault
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The favors are on the wiki if needed but basically you need to hear the gods comment about zeus

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And having the convo where Zeus tells zag that he wants to reconnect with Hades

final dune
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yeah it's a bit vague for zeus

valid crest
final dune
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but it really does boil down to just like

dusty vault
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Rng basically

final dune
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playing the game some more

dusty vault
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Just keep playing yeah

valid crest
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do i just need zues boon? i guess i'll have to pick up every type of god's boon?

final dune
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that's how most favors are

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yeah

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you should experiment anywayss

glad pawn
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Always experiment in rogue likes!

valid crest
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do i need to get commends from chtonic gods too?

final dune
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no

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olympians only

valid crest
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whenn farming for darkness with weapon with darkness thrist, does it matter what heat i farm them in? does it increase the darkeness i can get?

celest fox
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No

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Spoiler ||heat||

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||you should always darkness farm on heat you have already done||

valid crest
next latch
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bounties

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you get darkness instead of bounties for bosses you've already beaten

valid crest
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||what if i do a no heat run? will i get lesser darkness? say if i have cleared heat 1||

next latch
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spoiler

valid crest
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sorry

sweet brook
celest fox
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||yes. Repeating the same heat rewards increasing Darkness (and Gems with a Contractor upgrade) on each boss.|| Farming Darkness basically involves doing this and starting with Poseidon's keepsake for his resource boosting boon, then going for Chaos for more resource boosts.

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You can get up to like 1000 darkness on the final boss

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Potentially more but that is gonna be your average high end

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1 epic Poseidon boon and 1 epic Chaos boon should net about 800+

final dune
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epic chaos bouldy

celest fox
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You get 250 base darkness from the final boss

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Poseidon adds like +125% Chaos can add another +125% on a good epic

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Yeah ik

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Still those runs are gonna be important

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May as well be your ideal

ebon sand
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What combos are best for aspect of nemesis

final dune
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well

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there are two big popular things to do with it other than shackle

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which are

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-start splash dash and take whatever % you find on attack

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-start aphrodite or artemis and take the other into asphodel looking for heart rend

sweet brook
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if you take artemis first you can also pick up athena for deadly reversal

next latch
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why does shackle work for nem

sweet brook
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very flexible aspect

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generally only used for speedrunning

final dune
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it does the damage

sweet brook
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100% damage kinda good

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the idea is like, start tidal then switch to shackle if you dont get an attack i think

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or start shackle and rng into tidal? idk lmao

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but it is a legit strat, but mainly for speedrunning

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wouldn't recommend it to anyone playing casually or trying to get their first few clears

final dune
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you can viably shackle it through to aspho

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and probably further

sweet brook
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well yeah but like

final dune
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oh but yeah

sweet brook
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newer players would rather have a defensive keepsake

final dune
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although tbh

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shackle means you're not making awful core decisions in at least 2 of your slots

sweet brook
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it also means no acorn lmao

final dune
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i would simply not get hit!

sweet brook
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newer players moment

final dune
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my urge to call it a krill issue

sweet brook
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urge to kill

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best boon

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free scaling

opaque scroll
graceful flax
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As a newish player who only just completed their first run, what aspects should I shoot for first with titan blood? I've been too hesitant to buy any of them

final dune
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check pins

graceful flax
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If only I wasn't half asleep on my way to bed, I would've remembered that pins existed. Thanks!

celest fox
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Excluding some good Zagreus aspects
Sword: Nemesis
Spear: Achilles
Shield: Zeus
Bow: Hera
Fists: Demeter
Rail: Either

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Zag bow and shield are good

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When fully upgraded

sweet brook
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for rail, eris is better atm solely because you need less investment in it to be good

celest fox
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Others basically arent, though spear can be and rail works for one build

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Fair yeah

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I was thinking Eris first but I didnt want to upset jazz

sweet brook
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zag rail also kinda noteworthy because it makes ammo management easier, but also delta chamber exists lmao

celest fox
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Yeah

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Hera is a good 1st unlock if you're low on blood

sweet brook
celest fox
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You can run it immediately and its really good

sweet brook
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oh crap jazz is here

sweet brook
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i guess technically trippy too i guess

celest fox
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Fair

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Most players are gonna default to those though

sweet brook
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you'd be surprised lmao

celest fox
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If they build at all

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Fair

sweet brook
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subreddit loves true shot for some reason

celest fox
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I imagine that's just bad building overall though

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Ah

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True shot needs to be rapid to be good though

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On hera it just doesnt work

sweet brook
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true shot needs to crit to be good, but then at that point it'd just be crush shot damage lmfao

celest fox
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10% crit lmao

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Yeah

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And it has the worst crit of all Artemis cores

sweet brook
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true shot into fully loaded into crush shot replacement based tho

celest fox
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Suee

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Sure

sweet brook
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the only valid true shot hera build

celest fox
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True shot still is better than like beams probably

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Can it work with ||beams||? Seems really weird

sweet brook
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yeah, mainly because it's burst damage compared to damage over time

celest fox
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Like there are worse casts

sweet brook
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oh wait ||meme beam|| is a spoiler

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new players moment lmao

celest fox
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Poor new players

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If it were unlocked from the start the game would simply be too easy

cosmic rampart
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Hi, I have the feeling that I have won my first run too early, and because of that I'd miss on some story content.
Is my feeling true? (I won on my 8th run.)

dusty vault
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But if you dont "advance" the plot eventually they will mention anything that they didnt say before

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For example on a random save file I did, my escapes at the start were really quick that I got ||Achilles talking about my first escape well after the credits||

cosmic rampart
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Alright, thanks!

fleet ginkgo
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what do i do with the titans blood i get from beating mageara? i dont know what the table in pinned comments mean

raw coral
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It'll become apparent once you unlock all weapons afaik

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Then that table will make sense

fleet ginkgo
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ah ok, i have 4/5 so far

raw coral
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Nice, you got this!

fleet ginkgo
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or judging by the empty space 4/6

raw coral
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yes hehe

ebon sand
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Is Lambent Plume, Lucky Tooth, Evergreen Acorn, or Old Spiked Collar better

sweet brook
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plume should just never be used
acorn is the best defensive keepsake

pallid walrus
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I put on old spiked collar when I get to the end of a run where I'm like "ok I actually really don't wanna die on this one"

sweet brook
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acorn can mitigate more damage in boss fights

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with all 3 dds, collar will give 125 extra hp
in heroes, acorn can deny a lot more than that given it doesn't get wasted on small hits
in the final fight, ||each swing deals like 40 damage. the minimum damage you can get hit by is 20, and technically speaking yeah if you get hit by the 20 damage cast/skull wave each time, collar can deny more damage. thing is, that's a lot less likely and you're more likely to get hit by multiple swings||

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||also you can potentially take 80 damage lmao||

grave hill
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i usualy take skull over acorn.. its just easier usualy and the extra dd gives me peace of mind..
but maybe when im using a ranged weaponlike bow i go for acorn.. when i an actually avoid getting hit

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i stopped using the collar when i realized u lose the extra hp after u take it off lol

dusty vault
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I mean if you avoid getting hit e8ther tooth or acorn dont do anything

sweet brook
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If you don't get hit, centaur hearts are worthless

pallid walrus
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I get hit a lot

wicked trout
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Is it hard to do ||achilles secret aspect spear mission?||

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Spoiler for other new players that havent done at least 30 attempts, or actually pretty much anyone

next latch
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try and upgrade it fully first

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then it's not much different of playstyle

wicked trout
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Ah

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Might be too late for that then cause I already started a run...

final dune
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it’s just special spam

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dont use your attack

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wells

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well

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dash strike

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dont standing strike combo

wicked trout
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athena was not a good choice then for special was she?

final dune
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find a high % on special, particularly poseidon or aphrodite

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athena is fine

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the deflect is nice

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and the % is good enough

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just play far away from enemies

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and see if you can find charged skewer hammer

wicked trout
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Okay! Thank you!!

celest fox
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Collar can also increases your death defiance heals

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You could also use it for other bosses you struggle on

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Like Elysium, then just keep it on into Styx

ebon sand
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Is it worth reloading after every shot for Hestia aspect?

final dune
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hestia isnt good until at least level 3

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take aphrodite attack

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once you do there’ll be no reason to shoot normally other than maybe for numbskulls

sterile ginkgo
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This of course depends of which blessing you have and that stuff, but you can definitely spend the run doing that every time

celest fox
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Yeah thats how its played. Use fiery presence if you dont already

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Chaos is good for more of that and attack dmg

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Just reload and shoot. Dash strike too mostly I think idk it's hard to do that on controller

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Just keep getting more damage boosts as you go. Just put it all on one thing, but pick up a special boon in case you get a good special hammer

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A % special boon. More Aphrodite works.

analog pumice
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Which god keepsake should I start each run with? Is their like a particular order like Athena for dash, Dionysus for the fountain full heals, etc...?

final dune
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pick one that works with your build

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poseidon for the dash is good in general

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zeus for attack is good on fast hitting weapons like rail

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aphrodite for attack is good for high base dmg like bow

viscid notch
sterile ginkgo
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It depends of what you want for your build.
With the exception of the Chaos and Hermes keepsake, all God Keepsakes Lock that God for your run moving forward and guarantees it will show at some point.

You usually want to aim either for something to start in attack/special/dash, or you are building towards some other boon from that specific God.
In general, don't get too broken over what that God gives you because what you want is to lock that God for that specific run

grave hill
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can't go wrong with athena dash tho

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especially while ur not sure what build ur goin for

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just pick athena keepsake and hope for her dash

celest fox
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It's good early but it offers no dmg which is important.

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I would instead maybe suggest tidal dash unless you are specifically struggling with witches and even the Witches Circle miniboss

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But you need to learn to do that content without Athena

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Athena should just make it a breeze

final dune
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idk athena dash is fine you can stick with it for a long time

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lends itself very well to post game

celest fox
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So if you are going for like Merciful End or whatever or just naturally pick up Divine Dash, that content/those enemies become a non-issue

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Oh for sure

final dune
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i stuck with it until speedrunning

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and id do it again

celest fox
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It's just a tough 1st boon to take imo

final dune
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you dont necessarily need tdash

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oh yeah as a first boon nah

celest fox
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I'd rather take another core

final dune
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you force it in aspho

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thats what i did

celest fox
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Yeah thats what I mean

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I'd go with like divine strike sure

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But its not contributing much in Tartarus

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It does contribute a lot from Asphodel on

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Though damage from it takes a little skill

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Just deflecting projectiles at the right time. Doesnt do a ton but it's free.

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Just dont let it be a crutch basically. It's more important to get your attack or special, depending on the aspect

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Athena cant always be there

thick peak
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Is this one of those games like let's say enter the gungeon in which you can win every time?

sterile ginkgo
thick peak
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Cos I'm at my 20th run and last 3 were too good not to take notice of

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Granted, I did follow a ton of guides to see what boons ti pickup and how to build a set

thick peak
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And snake was difficult with bow

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Now I'm little more experienced and might make it but my dmg still falls flat at one point

sterile ginkgo
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The first run is the “hardest” because you go with no upgrades and a limited number of gods available, but the game allows you go do the full run if you are skilled enough

thick peak
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I just bought fists
From what I gather its beat weapon
But it's close range only
I struggle with those

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Last run was my first with shield but cos of hammer it was essentially better bow

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Took me a while to learn what attacks I can tank thro tho. Took unnecessary dmg

final dune
thick peak
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How much dmg is decent at the end

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Cos I was doing like 600 or so it seemed

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But then I realised its cos of 3rd floor buff for 10 rounds
That ego less warrior

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On hades fight I think it was little over 200

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BTW. When can I use titans blood?

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And what should I use it on?
Probably Bow right?
I saw its a prerequisite for unlocking other op variants

sterile ginkgo
thick peak
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How many rerol tokens should I have before I start using that perk for more 70:30 in favour of golden doors

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I'm currently collecting keys so hopefully I'll have enough soon

sweet brook
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Dark foresight is probably more important that fated persuasion tbh

thick peak
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Srsly?

sweet brook
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Honestly yeah

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When I made a new file my biggest complaint was no dark foresight

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Rerolls are whatever

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They're nice but like

thick peak
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Ah no, I understand

sweet brook
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DF means more boons and earlier hammers lmao

thick peak
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But I'm not playing rn to win
Tho midway through it always gets fun and I try to win

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I'm doing it for resource s

sweet brook
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Can save for maybe 1 reroll but other than that

thick peak
sweet brook
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DF allows for better runs more consistently

thick peak
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That's why I'm asking. How many rerolls should I have before I stop playing without DF

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Currently I need keys for 30 key mirror unlock and another weapon anyways

sweet brook
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Why would you turn it off

thick peak
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It's not even maxed. It's only 10% in favour of golden

sweet brook
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That's still good lmao

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That's pretty substantial

thick peak
sweet brook
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For context, a duo/legendary chances are about 12% per boon given you have the prereqs
And you can generally get 1 duo boon per run easily

thick peak
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And what's the thought process behind it

sweet brook
thick peak
sweet brook
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But if you want you can get 1 reroll and dump the rest into DF

sweet brook
thick peak
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I already have couple rerolls but as I don't know how to build properly yet it seems a waste

sweet brook
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Most builds hinge around a single duo so you can go through the duo list and see what makes sense

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Granted none of them are make or break

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But like it's generally good to go for a duo

thick peak
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Yea. I'm starting to get the grasp of it

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But it's all too slow ig
I can overthink it and get there eventually

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But as I play slow anyways it's just a lot of rng worry in the end ig

sweet brook
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Yeah rng can be rough

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And that's why dark foresight I good lowkey lmao

thick peak
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Yeh gotcha

final dune
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everyone on their own thinks it's good

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it's not

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don't bother with it

sweet brook
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Lmao yeah that's probably the exception

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Maybe a few more actually

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But that's the standout

final dune
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other htan stuff like the fuunny one which isnt an actual build duo

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maybe the arty dio duo?

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that stinks

final dune
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o right

sweet brook
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There's a good chunk that aren't helpful

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Those tend to be the utility ones lmao

final dune
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parting shot moment

sweet brook
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That's utility because you wanna sell it

final dune
thick peak
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Stubborn roots seems to be the best imo

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I think I had my first win with it

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I lost two DDs and when I won, I was basically full hp lol

sweet brook
thick peak
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One run I worked really hard for athena cast duo which ricochets but it sucked

sweet brook
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Also the duo is okay for beginners

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But once you get better it becomes basically useless

thick peak
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Maybe i just didn't use it well

thick peak
sweet brook
sweet brook
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You see them after you see the final boss the first time

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So a spoiler technically

thick peak
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Ah okay gotcha

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Sry

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So far
I enjoyed special only spear and bow

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But one run I had with shield was also really good cos I got that 80dmg projectile hammer

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But I think I would end up doing more to hades if I was just dash attack, attack cycling

dusty vault
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Charged shot moment

sweet brook
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Final boss is a spoiler lmao

thick peak
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Also none of the calls seem good

dusty vault
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All calls give iframes on activation and that already makes them decent

thick peak
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Just like dash tho

dusty vault
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Always good to have more iframes

thick peak
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Too much thinking
I have bad reaction times

dusty vault
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Also Zeus/Dio calls can do the most dmg from the calls

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Zeus gets insane with more zeus and on dio just pom it

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Also dont wait for full charge in most calls

thick peak
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Zeus got me killed more than once

dusty vault
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Is not worth

thick peak
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I usually take hunter/beauty gods call cos it does significant dmg when full so I just use it a bit on boss

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I should probably get more comfortable up close cos that's where zeus (and half the games content) shines

dusty vault
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Can also just have something like athena/poseidon as a panic button

thick peak
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I thought poseidons was great and fun when I first got it but now I hear only Athens is good cos u can do a lot more dmg that way

sweet brook
dusty vault
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Athena can be used for both

sweet brook
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Zeus or Dio will help a lot more in normal rooms

dusty vault
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On slower weapons saving athe call for free dmg is good

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But mostly is just a get out of jail free card

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For me

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Also most calls get even more ridiculous with smoldering air duo

sterile ginkgo
thick peak
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How does call charge work

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I thought its time based but then I got that duo

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I thought its dmg taken/recieved but then i sae boom for that

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So now idk

dusty vault
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Dmg done/how often you do dmg/dmg received

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That Poseidon boon you mentioned boosts how much call you receive by being hit for example

thick peak
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Ah gotcha

sweet brook
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How often you hit generates calls faster

thick peak
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What are gold keepsakes btw
I saw pics of puppets but idk what or how i get em

thick peak
dusty vault
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Dmg done helps but it "caps" really fast how much it helps

sweet brook
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It's like hitting > damage taken > damage dealt

thick peak
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Cos my early runs often had two chaos gates and i really enjoyed it that way

dusty vault
sweet brook
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Uh

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Idk

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Maybe lmao

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But it's like somewhere along those lines

dusty vault
thick peak
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Yes

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They are locked behind golden doors

dusty vault
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Advance your relationship with certain characters

thick peak
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Unliek the rest which are dark question marks

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What does it do, is it something I should speedrun

dusty vault
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If you wanna know who
||Meg, Than, Dusa, Achilles, Sisyphus, skelly||

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Maybe not Speedrun but some can be really helpful on runs

thick peak
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I don't have than in spawn yet

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Which one

dusty vault
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||mainly Meg, as it summons her and does 2500 dmg in a line, or at least is the best one speedrun wise, you can get an use from everyone's summons||

thick peak
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||I know you can get with Meg/ than/ dusa but dusa is no exclusive so one should max her first? What does her summon do and how does summon work||

dusty vault
thick peak
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Right

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Still in syx it can help with minibosses

final dune
celest fox
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||my favorite summon is Sisyphus/Bouldy. 1000 damage in a small area and you get darkness obols and food||

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||on demand healing and helps you get obols for when you need them early on||

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||you can just use it like 3 times in a row so you can buy a boon and a pom from the mid shop. That's really powerful for building.||

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Or just buy a hammer you missed earlier. Lots of uses. Sorry for the black bars lol.

next latch
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never considered that

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i guess it's low damage isn't that useful late

opaque scroll
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Do ya use Dark Gen??

celest fox
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Yeah often

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I like the heal after bosses sometimes with ||Maim||

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You take more boss dmg

opaque scroll
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Hell yeah.

oak trail
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did me fully befriending charon even do anything or was it just like, for fun

opaque scroll
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For fun.

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read your keepsake, it gives u a warm feeling inside.

oak trail
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oh

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neat

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no lowered charon prices…no neat buff…turning all my ambrosia into titan blood from now on bouldy

dusty vault
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Wow so you dont appreciate zag's friends enough dusa

oak trail
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yes

dusty vault
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Fair

oak trail
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im here to kill not to play a dating sim 😼

dusty vault
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You still may want to keep gifting to some characters tho

oak trail
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ive only given more than 1 nectar to three characters

dusty vault
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Last convo here was exactly about this lol

oak trail
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charon, sisyphus, and medusa

opaque scroll
thick peak
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I unlocked aspect menu just now

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What should I get first?

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What weapon has best and most diverse hammers?

celest fox
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Hades is a dating sim. Deal with it.

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I'm going to recommend it to my sister again because she likes romance fantasy novels

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You got guan yu? Idk ||Beowulf|| is the best hidden aspect overall

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Shield

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Bow ||Rama|| is also very good but hard to play

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Well it's hard to learn and stuff

thick peak
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What's beowulf

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Guan yu I hear is hardest to learn of em all

final dune
thick peak
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Also I tried pierced butterfly but it seems terrible

sterile ginkgo
thick peak
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Max you can get is 70% bonus dmg which would be fine if it wasn't impossible and slow

But it means you'll have much harder time getting necessary duos and so on

Can't believe it was ranked so high on tier lists

thick peak
thick peak
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Srsly? Rail has best ones?

final dune
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yea

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i mean first off there's clockets

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which is clockets

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there's hazard

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ricochet and piercing on hestia

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delta chamber on eris

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targeting

sterile ginkgo
#

I mean yeah, rockets are rockets. but some will tell you that getting the sword to heal you is worth it.

final dune
#

that hammer sucks

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it doesn't work on dash strikes

celest fox
#

Crap it's new player

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I didnt expect someone to ask that here lol

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Yeah the sword heal is counter productive

thick peak
#

I don't mind spoilers

celest fox
#

Best sword hammer is double edge

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Ik but this is spoiler free chat

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That's its main purpose. No post-reaching surface content

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Past the gates that Cerberus guards

celest fox
#

Fists are considered the worst of the bunch but it actually has the best hammer imo. It acts like Targeting System on Rail.

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So very simple.

thick peak
next latch
#

i mean which is better

celest fox
#

Yeah last aspect. 4th.

final dune
thick peak
#

Shield seemed like it had nice hammers idk

final dune
#

shield has one hammer which is the best hammer in the game

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the rest are pretty bad

thick peak
#

Imma just work on spear for now cos I need yuan for the rest

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I never use spin attack so idk if I wanna try to learn achillies now or just do what I did before with zag

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Which is special only run lol

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I'm kinda tired of explosive spear tbh

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And unless I did everything else right, dmg when fighting hades seems underwhelming

final dune
#

on achilles look for flurry jab

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special x2 -> dash strike x2

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tap the specials quickly to get buff up fast

thick peak
#

A lot of build guides stress the importance of dash strike

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But idk how to do it well

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I always end up taking damage

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For example shield says

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Dash strike into charge by holding then repeat

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Bruv I should have I frames nonstop but no

final dune
thick peak
#

That's why I so far liked Bow and spear spam from afar

final dune
#

dash iframes are only empty dash

thick peak
#

Maybe I should do bow chiron first. Then achilies. Seems easier to build around too

sterile ginkgo
#

I never pay attention to dash strikes.

thick peak
#

I'll do that one later. Need it for yuan anyways

sterile ginkgo
#

Like you will be doing them without thinking, so dont worry wether or not you are doign them well.

final dune
#

esp on sword and spear

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whose combos both suck

next latch
final dune
#

fake hammer

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dont scroll up

thick peak
#

5 blood required for yuan

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Does it include 2 for unlocking

sterile ginkgo
final dune
final dune
sterile ginkgo
#

Ergo why Dash Striking will present itself. Or you die because you were standing.

final dune
#

like sword, shield, bow,

sterile ginkgo
#

I am actually pretty bad at trying to do the Bow Dash Strike.

final dune
#

doing a standing strike on those is detrimental

thick peak
#

Why do I do two dashtrikes again?

final dune
#

you have two dashes

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here let me find a vod

sterile ginkgo
# final dune space -> click

Yes, if I try to do space -> click, that's when it feels awkward and I dont think I acomplish it. when I dont worry about wether I am doing dash strike or not and just move around, the Dash Strike comes along on itself.

final dune
#

achilles rotation timestmaped

thick peak
#

What the frick

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Speechless

final dune
#

?

opaque scroll
final dune
#

im not good at achilles

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im just vibing with it cause its fun

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till ely zagcry

thick peak
#

Is it two dash strikes to make a 4 dmg cycle

final dune
#

it is if you have flurry

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without it's just 2 damage but you still want to because after 2 dash you have dlay

thick peak
#

What delay

final dune
#

you know how oyu have 2 dashes

thick peak
#

Also what conditions are easiesr

final dune
#

hold on i have stuff

thick peak
#

Now I'm reading some online about it and people use it to play cast only

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What u showed seems much more fun and fluid

oak trail
#

this entire run ive been getting almsot exclusively ares and ||demeter||

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is this coincidental or?

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does the code prioritize the first gods you choose or smth

oak trail
#

this isnt the first time ive noticed this either but i just might be going goofy

oak trail
#

games just coincidentally cursing me with the worst boons 💔

oak trail
#

the fates hate me

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oh wait i should spoiler that

dusty vault
#

what's your god pool rn

oak trail
#

aphrodite (2) ||demeter|| (5) ares (6) zeus (1)

shell monolith
#

If I only have 2 gods in my god pool and I don't choose any other gods, is it likely that id get more boons from the 2 chosen gods instead of other gods or does it remain the same anyways

final dune
shell monolith
#

Because I will get options for more gods than just 4?

sterile ginkgo
shell monolith
#

Got it

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Thanks

celest fox
#

You dont always want more boons.

shell monolith
celest fox
#

Fair. Best bet for that is probably Chaos Favor boons.

#

Then just hope that God appears enough

thick peak
#

You can only have 4 gods a run

viscid notch
#

The game stops giving you new ones after 4 (excluding Hermes), you can have as many as you want tho if you force them.

thick peak
#

Gotit

celest fox
#

Or like, if you dont lock in 4 gods before Styx, 2 new gods might appear in Styx

thick peak
#

Why would you want that

#

So far, ive used styx almost as an last attempt at getting the duo which has skillfully rng avoided me till then

sweet brook
#

Well they didn't say it was a good or bad thing lmao, it's just something that can happen

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It's just that if you enter Styx with a 3 god pool, multiple different new gods can show up and bring the god pool over 4

night abyss
#

I’ve already beat Hades once but I never actually got the true ending I was sent back to the underworld and everyone forgot my acts

#

How do I achieve the true ending?

night abyss
#

So wait did the fates just reset everything?

final dune
#

? no

#

are you talking about dad

night abyss
#

How do I get the true ending?

final dune
#

he’s lying

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he didn’t forget

final dune
#

if you mean epilogue there’s a guide on the wiki

night abyss
#

I wonder if his mother is actually Persephone

maiden kiln
#

There’s a true ending?

final dune
#

there's just a few different story things that happen the longer you play

maiden kiln
#

Oh you mean dialogue and stuff from hades the more you win?

final dune
#

spoile

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but sure and also some events

maiden kiln
final dune
#

do you want spoilers?

maiden kiln
#

Nothing crazy

#

Or a rough description

final dune
#

theres one after a certain amount of clears and one when you complete a quest

maiden kiln
#

Is the quest Orpheus?

final dune
#

i mean theres something after that

#

idk man

maiden kiln
#

?

final dune
#

i havent done the story in months

maiden kiln
#

Oh

celest fox
#

||you have to invite the Olympians over for dinner||

boreal falcon
#

hi I cant beat end boss can someone give me some tips? I like to play with fists

opaque scroll
boreal falcon
#

the feather one right?

#

if u are talking about that one, yes i have it @opaque scroll

thick peak
#

I didnt realise rerolls reset every run 😦

#

I was running suboptimal setup thinking ill grind em out first

#

Now i realise game is built better than i imagined

opaque scroll
boreal falcon
thick peak
#

But now I've equipped it with rail thinking of hiding behind walls and just mortaring everyone as I don't know how to build for it anyways

#

First hammer was the missle variant, hunter on special, god of war for extra dmg after kill

#

Probably my fastest run so far

#

Also, I didn't even take dmg on boss

#

I just play much more carefully with it

#

So I'll give it more chances soon

toxic jasper
#

Can i only get boss rewards once per weapon?

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Cause the spear has a Check on boss drops now

upbeat spoke
#

at the start yes

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you get darkness instead if you already had a reward

toxic jasper
#

oh...

#

well is there a way to get more Titan Blood and the other stuff without using another weapon?

upbeat spoke
#

once you finish a run there is

toxic jasper
#

only after i completely finish a run?

upbeat spoke
#

yep

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you can also get them from the trader

#

but that takes a lot of resources

opaque scroll
thick peak
# opaque scroll Crazy.

Know whats crazy?
The fact that i have 6 dashes, athena while at it, more dmg when deflecting and her legendary shield every 20 seconds

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Oh and hermes epic strenghten

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I just hit with rail crit super for 700, spam dash repeat

#

If my butterfly was maxed idk what % i would have by the end of it

#

I took dmg once once this whole run. It was cos i stood too close to hydras spammy homing attack

#

I just remembered i took 2 chaos gates too. So technically I took dmg thrice lol

viscid notch
#

Must be a real gamer

thick peak
#

Did you not read?
I bathe in i frames and only stop to push a nuke button
It's not hard at all...

thick peak
#

Ill give fists another try with hermes keepsake
Got studry while attacking hammer
Tips?

next latch
#

what's your build rn

thick peak
#

Just started

next latch
#

look for zeus/dio attack

thick peak
#

I'm offered artemis. I'll get her on special

next latch
#

much better

thick peak
next latch
#

no arty is decent for fist special

#

on low/slow heat

thick peak
#

Way I've been playing hades till now is kinda one dimensional tbh
I just spam one attack whole run

#

It's even worse cos I usually play ranged weapons

next latch
#

you must love shield

thick peak
#

And my clear times are horrible
Idk how I would clear an area sub 9min

#

I've actually only played with it once lol

#

It was really fun but game glitched and DD didn't activate so I died on hades fight

next latch
#

oof

thick peak
#

It was skelly tooth actually

final dune
#

if it did that everyone would already have complained about it

#

unless you are on a weird copy for some reason

thick peak
#

I don't think I miss counted tho it's possible

final dune
#

you miscounted

thick peak
#

Could be

#

It was a run with charged projectile

#

So straight up my alley

thick peak
#

Failed at hades. No idea how to use them fists

#

I'll try sword and shield for next couple runs to practice close combat

#

But this was pathetic.

ashen storm
sweet brook
#

if you have flat damage on the attack, you should be fine

ashen storm
#

Zeus or Dionysus on attack are my go-to for the fists.

oak trail
#

does malphons dash special strike count as a dash strike?

sweet brook
#

yes

#

fists are the only weapon with a dash special, and it'll get buffed by dash-strike bonuses like hunters' dash

dusty vault
sweet brook
#

does that actually count

graceful flax
#

Fated Authority has been hands down the least helpful upgrade. Is it not able to roll gems or darkness rooms into boons? Never seen it in my runs

dusty vault
#

Blue laurel is any meta resource to get atronger back at the house

#

Golden being the ones that impact your run

#

Dark foresight (opposite akill of Olympian favor) boosts the chance of aeeing gold laurel rooms

final dune
#

fauth sucks

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just use pers

graceful flax
#

Noted draque3GoodHover

hollow grove
oak trail
#

man i really did like, no sidequests before beating the game

#

i sold most of my nectar instead☠️

modest sphinx
#

Time to do Dionysus runs!

oak trail
#

is it possible to get more than two hammers?

#

i know the code lowers the chances for a hammer HEAVILY when you get one but

#

is it a 0% chance or just a really low one?

opaque scroll
sweet brook
#

only with the anvil in styx

#

dark foresight doesn't matter lmao

#

the game's hard coded so that you can only get 2 hammers naturally

opaque scroll
#

Oh? damn lol.

sweet brook
#

and you'll "get" a third with the anvil in styx

#

"get" meaning replace 1 hammer with 2 random ones lmao

opaque scroll
#

I thought that the 2 hammers was before Dark FOresight.

#

Ig I got the third with Fauth.

sweet brook
#

it's more like, you'll actually see 2 hammers with DF lmao

sweet brook
opaque scroll
#

U sure? I might be rembering wrong.

sweet brook
#

no one's ever mentioned getting a third hammer like that before

#

also it's most likely hard coded in the game so you can only get 2 hammers

#

same with hermes

#

apart from styx shenanigans

opaque scroll
#

Damn.

oak trail
#

confused dashing flights desc

#

like, i dash and then immediately use special and it does more damage?

final dune
#

i think it’s a thing sometimes on zeus or something but i do not really care because the only aspect of the shield which exists is the fourth one

toxic jasper
#

is Hades the final boss?

opaque scroll
toxic jasper
#

I'm just asking

#

I'm still at the 2nd one

#

But I'm assuming that he is the last one ?

final dune
#

i mean idk

#

just play

toxic jasper
#

Alright

onyx finch
#

I like spoilers but hades is an exception.
I try to avoide them like the plague.
Honestly, just play the game, everything will become clear

iron crow
#

^true

celest fox
#

Incredibly rare occurances

#

Still more likely that 2 is hard coded but eh I'll believe anything until I see the code myself.

#

Unless someone else can really show me what and how something works concretely.

#

Like I'm fairly certain I've gotten a duo from a 2 god room.

#

Can I confirm that? No, I dont really remember and havent seen one since.

#

No screenshots

#

General rules still apply though. Game devs might just want ultra rare occurances to be a factor.

toxic jasper
#

How do i unlock the "Secret Stash" in the Keepsakes?

#

I've almost got all of the Keepsakes but not a single Secret Stash

ashen storm
fresh shadow
#

any tips for my first time fighting the end boss

dull terrace
#

dash has i-frames while dash strikes takes them away

low cypress
#

Hello

#

Why I can choose 3 boons from a god but I can see 4 on some people ?

dull terrace
#

3 boons as in selecting a boon or people having multiple boons?

dusty vault
#

is from the speedrun modpack, where the first boon will offer the 4 core boons (attack, special, cast, dash)

low cypress
#

Ok

#

Was watching this video: was confuse

#

https://youtu.be/ vab4WND7o0Y

#

Then looking for 5mn on the wiki

#

I'm looking for the truly evil, New save file, hell mode, max difficulty run

dusty vault
#

can you remove the embed btw?

#

||heat ||is a spoiler in this channel

low cypress
#

Ok, lots of things to change

#

Better ?

dusty vault
#

and yeah that works

low cypress
oak trail
#

with fated persuasion can you roll a regular boon into a duo boon?

dusty vault
#

yeah

#

its 3 new choices

#

and it blocks one of the already seen boons so they arent the exact same (weird cases may apply and be the exact same, sometimes)

pallid walrus
#

for some reason I almost always get 2 exact same boons and just one is different

raw coral
#

The game prioritizes main-slot boons until they're filled, maybe that's why

final dune
#

and status curses

outer zodiac
#

Hello all gods in Hades game!
I can't beat THESEUS and ASTERIUS....I need your help.

onyx finch
#

Those are pretty though the first few times you encouter
them.
Using ranged weapons could help you with avoiding attacks.
Learning their attacks is key, dodging a lot, you have time, no
need to rush.

I usually focus on one at a time, Asterius, personally, is easier
to deal with first

#

I also only use sword at the moment so for me learning the attacks
and dodging was pretty much all I had.
Up close and personal is just fun for me nyaChips

outer zodiac
onyx finch
#

I'm sure you'll get the hang of it.
It also took me a few tries to deal with them

#

How many escape attempts you had so far?

proven pivot
#

When God power starts, just spam dash. Not dash attack, just dash. If you do that, you're fast and invulnerable 90% of the time

#

Or if you get Athena's aid, charge it on asterius and use the greater call right when he starts his call, so you can freely wail on him while he's not blocking and you're invincible

sweet brook
#

theseus is also completely vulnerable when he first summons it right after the invulnerability bubble goes off, so you could attack him while his god call is going off
kinda not safe but can be worth the dps

celest fox
#

Yeah

#

I attack usually and just dodge

#

Too good of an opportunity to end the fight fast

#

I'm more likely to get hit by a lunge or throw or spin if I dont do dmg now

#

And the call only does serious dmg if you stand still and get hit by a bunch

#

I also use dark regeneration for a reason tbh

#

Best bet is a like Rail probably

#

Range but fast enough that you can maneuver

#

A harder to play but other good aspect would be Zeus shield

#

You can sort of just leave your Blitz Disc on Theseus for the duration of the Call

#

Shield also allows for blocks of Asterius and Theseus' attacks

#

AND if you get charged shot, you can ignore shields

#

Zeus is hard to play but very good for challenging content

sweet brook
#

zeus isn't too hard to play if you dont care about like dps cycle optimization

celest fox
#

True

sweet brook
#

if you want to play it well then it gets a lot more challenging

celest fox
#

Still that and its versatility and block are why it excels so well

#

Any shield will do solid anyway. Charged Shot will carry you.

#

It's both very high base damage regardless of charge, and ignores shields and provides range.

#

Very useful if you need a carry through Elysium

#

Just remember it is a very low dps weapon without Charged Shot

outer zodiac
leaden whale
#

Is there a universal best Aid?

#

like regardless of build

final dune
#

so uh

#

i guess not

#

but like

#

sorta zeus

sweet brook
#

Zeus because it's halfway there to opening smoldering air tbh

#

Even without supporting boons it's pretty strong too

#

And your next Zeus boon has I think a 50% chance of getting static discharge so sure why not

leaden whale
#

like im going a merciful end build

#

so idk

sweet brook
#

if you're doing ME, just ignore the call

#

having a call gives you worse hermes odds

#

and ME scales great with good hermes

#

more dashes or hyper sprint + rush delivery is a massive boost

celest fox
#

With ME just get Athena call in Styx

#

It will probably show up. Avoid it for now.

sweet brook
#

avoid calls until you get your second hermes really
or avoid calls until you get your third hermes in styx lmao

celest fox
#

Yeah

#

Just get the athena call for the final boss

sweet brook
#

50/50 for it to show in styx, 1/whatever to get whatever you need

#

actually 3/whatever

celest fox
#

It's also a boosted rarity Hermes. I got an epic RD last run.

#

Top 5 calls are like

  1. Zeus
  2. Aphrodite
  3. Dionysus
  4. Athena
  5. Artemis
#

1 and 2 because they open smouldering air

next latch
#

aph is only good with big call

celest fox
#

Small call disrupts ||dad||

sweet brook
#

i'd put aphro 4th tbh

#

zeus, dio, athena, and aphro should be the order

#

athena is better than aphro because if you're gonna use aphro call defensively, athena call is just better for that

celest fox
#

Fair. Just ranking it because it does contribute dps with smair

#

And opens it up

grave hill
#

zeus and dio are my 2 favorite calls 3rd fave is probably poseidan and after that idk.. athena can be ok

opaque scroll
#

Which is down right life saving in ||em4||

next latch
grave hill
#

when i was new it took me forever to get used to actually using my call.. or even my cast

#

i was such a slow learner in hades

#

i was really bad for such a long time and i never paid any attention to anything

#

i didnt realize purging well was selling boons.. I thought i was buying upgrades

#

i thought theseus was a girl with a bow for the first like 15 times i fought him

#

lol

#

... im not smart

opaque scroll
#

Lel.

#

This is more common than you thinkx

slate kestrel
#

killed the hydra today

celest fox
#

Nice work. It gets easier once you get down some cues and how to move from head to head.

final dune
#

and then gets harder once you get picked up for full time job as professional lava stander

modest sphinx
#

||I actually find Lernie's new level easier. It kills the mobs he spawns, and concentrates the heads.||

modest sphinx
#

Done!

slate kestrel
final dune
slate kestrel
#

I'll take your word

final dune
#

lernie is the boss i lose the most dds at lol

slate kestrel
#

why is it called lernie

final dune
#

because zag is totally unserious

next latch
slate kestrel
#

honestly lernie is kinda easy for me with the spear

celest fox
#

The Lernean Hydra or something

slate kestrel
#

cause the spear has good range

celest fox
#

Real easy on Achilles

slate kestrel
#

also I had a lot of damage boosting boons

final dune
#

but yea

#

zag is too unserious to ever call something by its long ass name

final dune
sweet current
#

hydra fight gets super easy once u figure out the patterns

next latch
#

why would i spend time thinking when i could just deal damage

celest fox
#

Because you'll get head slammed for 100 damage

#

Not Lernie but I do have a recent 100! screenshot

#

Didnt even matter lmao

pallid walrus
#

it does 4 damage to me

oak trail
#

should be called the hadean hydra fr

oak trail
#

the hydras do different attacks based on the color of their crown

onyx finch
#

@fleet willow
If you continue playing the game and paying attention for the story, you'll understand what those are for

#

You can also use your codex to read about gods, enemies, weapons, items, etc.

fleet willow
#

Ah right codex

#

Thx

slate kestrel
#

What does the diamond do?

next latch
#

unlock music and some story bits

slate kestrel
#

And what does titan blood do

next latch
#

upgrade weapons

toxic jasper
#

Can i keep using the Adamant Arrowhead ||Artemis' Keepsake|| at the s tart of the run to try and get the Waking Phrase for the || Aspect ||?

#

Or will she not say it in the first room

viscid notch
toxic jasper
#

yea i died 10 times and still nothing

#

ok do i have to do the rest of the things to get the phrase?

viscid notch
#

What things

celest fox
final dune
celest fox
#

Oh true. I didnt get that they meant inbetween runs.

slate oriole
#

Question about Boons I can receive. I read I can only meet 4 gods during each run (I assume this excludes hermes) So far I've met Athena, Ares, and Dionysus. Demeter popped up as a route. If I skip Dementr will another god appear or is that my 4th? no matter what I choose?

sweet brook
#

Any random god can be the 4th

#

They're only added to your god pool if you pick them up

slate oriole
#

oh sweet

sweet brook
#

And yeah it excludes Hermes

slate oriole
#

Good cause right now she doesn't seem to fit in the build I'm going for. Thanks!

final dune
#

If you sell a gods boon they stay in your pool tho

slate oriole
#

Yeah I did notice that one already, which is kind of a bummer. Would be nice if you were forced early and didn't want them.

hollow gorge
#

You can get more than 4 gods + Hermes in some scenarios but yeah, usually 4+hermes

full slate
#

Bought the game 2 days ago and I’m hooked. Finally got to the last story boss (I presume it was the last) but died. I’ve read that it’s best to focus boons/abilities so you’re a strong with 1/2 attacks instead of putting minor upgrades in everything. However I realised I hadn’t used a single upgrade for my cast. Is this a viable thing? Or should I always look to upgrade it once so it’s not the basic red dart?

dusty vault
#

If you arent focusing entirely on the cast dont think much about it

#

Base cast is enough if you only need the +50% atk/special buff from the mirror

#

Can also use it to fill the requisites for duo boons

#

Or sometimes just grabbing a cast like zeus/athena/pos for aoe or defense is aight

#

But there are builds focused on your cast being the main dmg

#

Need a bit more knowledge on what sinergizes to make them work tho

full slate
#

Thanks for the reply. 👍🏻

final dune
#

might take a bit to embed idk

final dune
oak trail
#

do the twenty pets that you have to give cerberus to unlock their heart have to be one per entering the house

#

or can you do all twenty pets at once

modest sphinx
#

I know the lyre can be strummed continuously. (I once sat there with a book, pushing the button over and over again, lol.) You could always try it 20 times and see what happens, or just pet him each run.

final dune
celest fox
#

I thought you meant feed him pets

#

I haven't done the story in a while

oak trail
#

would do that too

#

cerberus deserves the world

#

yoooo i unlocked thans heart

#

unsure what i did exactly but

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radical

oak trail
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thans at the house but i have no ambrosia….

fathom lichen
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how do you unlock hearts? do I keep giving them ambrosia or talk to them a lot

restive lava
fathom lichen
restive lava
final dune
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It should usually be like 6 nectar and 1 ambrosai

fathom lichen
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good to know. thank you both

final dune
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some people are diff

modest sphinx
hollow yoke
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ambrosia is pretty annoying to get yeah lol i recommend always looking on the lounge merchant for the deals, maybe you can find one that is worth it

oak trail
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now i gotta wait 30 runs for him to appear again

fleet willow
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How do i use fishing rod

dusty vault
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listen for a "ding!" sound at the end of combat or when entering a room and look a for a bright spot in the water

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press interact and wait for the fish to bite (will have a white flash) and press interact again

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if you do it too late it will get away and the faster you react the better the fish

fleet willow
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Thx bro

dusty vault
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there is also this

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Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.

Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.

A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.

hollow gorge
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Sound for fake vs real is also different

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Closing your eyes to fish isn't a bad strategy

fleet willow
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Just finished my first run and bought it but couldn’t find where to use

dusty vault
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yeah fishing isn't guaranteed to appear

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but if you just bought poseidon should appear soon to offer his legendary boon

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and check charon wells for skeleton lure

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it forces a fishing spot to appear in the next possible chamber

drifting violet
leaden whale
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does anybody have a strategy to beat theseus and the minotaur

hollow gorge
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Hug those poles like a stripper.

dusty vault
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Wait next to one and when ge is about to hit you dash through him

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If you dash to the sides/through a pillar he will have more time to react and dodge it

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Also deal with asterius before Theseus reaches half hp

leaden whale
dusty vault
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Doesnt hurt to try

leaden whale
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ive died to the butterfly ball so much i hate it

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im gonna try it

dusty vault
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Butterfly is quite a heavy dps chec

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Or at least managing the inf spawning eyes and prreventing them of re animating

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Any bonus dmg against armor that you can get is worth

toxic jasper
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My friend is telling me that he spend 6 Titan Blood on the Sword and met the rest of requirements but he still can't get the Waking Phrase from Nyx (he even run out of dialogue apperently)

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Help please,m?

sweet brook
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Does he have hidden spear

final dune
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yea

toxic jasper
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He does

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He didn't buy it

final dune
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rng

toxic jasper
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Cause in the wiki it says it's not necessary

sweet brook
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Yeah rng lmao

dusty vault
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Rng time

toxic jasper
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He ran out of dialogue tho?

sweet brook
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Get rnged

toxic jasper
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Is that really possible?

sweet brook
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Probably

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Either that or he did get the dialogue and needs to examine the sword again

final dune
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make sure it’s actually 5 blood

dusty vault
final dune
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someone came in thinking they had done 5 when they’d done 4

toxic jasper
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He used 6

toxic jasper
final dune
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oh

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lmao

dusty vault
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Small world

toxic jasper
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I though the 2nd aspect required 2 to unlock

celest fox
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Isnt it 5 blood in a non-zagreus aspect

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See if it's that. Double check the wiki.

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So you need to invest 5 into aspect 2 or 3

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Aka just level Nemesis.

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What does leveling Poseidon even do

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Just cast dmg?

hollow gorge
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Yeah