h1-for-new-players

[gray haven]

Shadow Presence is global though. You're thinking of Boiling Blood, which only buffs Attack and Special.

Happens lol.

[acoustic garnet]

big poisonous rats in temple of styx wreck me

any tips?

[opaque scroll]

Ranged Playstyle so u keep out of the poison pools maybe?

Lel.

I remember absolutely obliterating Styx with a BeoBuild so that’s another option.

[sweet brook]

Tidal dash with breaking wave helps a lot

Or having a high dps build

[opaque scroll]

Is there any specific advice u want btw? Like boons or keepsakes or something?

[opaque scroll]

Truuuuuuue, didn’t think of that.

[acoustic garnet]

i think i just need to fill my mirror

i dont have all the upgrades and temple of styx is very hard because of it

beobuild as in beowulf shield?

im using basic items

no upgrades, or just 1 😛

[opaque scroll]

What mirror mods do you have?

[opaque scroll]

Ah…

[opaque scroll]

Tell ya what

[acoustic garnet]

i was using the basic fists

[opaque scroll]

Zagfist Plume Gaming.

[acoustic garnet]

will try again, i have success with the shield and the fists mostly

those are the only items i managed to beat theseus with

[opaque scroll]

Just Blitz it.

[acoustic garnet]

the hermes item?

[opaque scroll]

+2 because you’re a fellow fists/shield user.

[opaque scroll]

Ye, if you go fast enough you’re essentially invincible.

[acoustic garnet]

i had triple dash + athena deflect on dash + the after-dash speed up from hermes

so that was fun

speed demon

[opaque scroll]

Nooooice.

Oh yeah, rush delivery is a pretty good boon to get if you wanna use my strat btw.

Just try it out, I can at least promise it’ll be fun.

[tacit kite]

what about sword + nemesis?

[sweet brook]

That's not how it works at all lmao

Zag fist plume is an idea but not one I would recommend unless you have fated persuasion from the mirror

And also not having any good control of your build just kinda sucks in general

You have dodge but no damage

[acoustic garnet]

whats nemesis?

like, the nemesis aspect? i did try but got a weird daedalus upgrade and it felt clunky

sword is cool, yeah

i like fists->shield->sword->bow, spear and the gun thingie i dont use

[tacit kite]

you need a crit build

[acoustic garnet]

like, to farm?

thats what you mean?

[sweet brook]

Like 95% of sword hammers suck lmao

[acoustic garnet]

i beat the hydra with all weapons

[sweet brook]

The only good one is double edge

[acoustic garnet]

and im just running random runs with fists to get essence for mirror

[sweet brook]

I think they meant crit build

So heart rend or deadly reversal duos generally

[acoustic garnet]

so i need to pick certain boons for the duo boons?

im just picking whats best

in each case

[sweet brook]

Generally yeah

Most builds revolve around getting a duo

[tacit kite]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2233472883

[sweet brook]

But none of them are really make or break for the most part

Even if you don't get the duo, it's still a relatively strong core that you should be fine

[tacit kite]

it's better to start with artemis keepsake

[acoustic garnet]

im usually running the cosmic egg

B)

im not min maxing, just found the chaos boons cool

and im not spending 20 health for them 😛

ok

[sweet brook]

I mean that's fine and all but having a proper build would likely make Styx a lot easier

[flint charm]

i beat bone hydra!

Shield throw op!

[opaque scroll]

True, but didja have any hammers on it or sumn?

[opaque scroll]

I mean it’s worked pretty well for me as my go to strat for whenever I had any issues. Damage was never an issue especially with Rush Delivery.

Invincible is an exaggeration but I said it cuz it cut a significant amount of damage that I took in a run.

[slate pecan]

what is up lads it is time for sum more hades

alriiiight so! i have 500 coins and have obtained the Sack, so i dont wanna go down any of the other tunnels and risk losing health
my options areee
athena boon 150
centaur heart 125
better? athena boon 450
pom 300
whatchall think, should i send a pic of my build too

[sweet brook]

yes send a pic of build too

depending on the build, more athena could be useful but could be useless

[slate pecan]

aight just a moment

https://imgur.com/a/gbCYCIo

here be

[sweet brook]

Do you think you'll need another DD for the fight

[slate pecan]

i might...but 3 is still pretty good

[sweet brook]

If you think you'll need it buy the 150 Athena

Actually

Okay so both ideas would buy the pom

If you think you need another DD, get 150 Athena after the pom

If you don't think you need the DD, buy pom and heart

[slate pecan]

ooh got to weigh my options here

[sweet brook]

What are those hammers btw

Looks like chain and something else?

[slate pecan]

hammers? whatcha mean

[sweet brook]

Hammer upgrades you already have atm

You have 2

[slate pecan]

oh yeahh
lemme check rq

[gray haven]

HP and double pom sounds good.

[polar isle]

got my 7th clear. now i escaped with every weapon!

[slate pecan]

flurry shot and chain shot

[gray haven]

Double pom on Attack or Call.

Anvil odds aren't great, too many special hammers in the pool. I am more concerned with your low max HP and no Acorn anyway.

[acoustic garnet]

damn i died at hades phase 2

[gray haven]

Final boss fight is spoilers here.

[sweet brook]

Anvil is funny tho

[slate pecan]

hell no i am not goin w anvil
i like my flurry shot quite a bit

aight so pom time! and then heart

[gray haven]

Double pom on Attack or Call would be great. Anvil is a gamble for Twin or Triple Shot.

[slate pecan]

awesome, call is one of my pom options

[sweet brook]

Atk pom would be better here wouldn't it

Lvl 1 atk lol

[gray haven]

Yeah, but Artemis' Aid pom scaling is great.

[slate pecan]

well the other options are dash deflect and wave of despair

[gray haven]

When you use your Call in the boss fight, remember to use it at max gauge and stand right behind the boss to ensure all the arrows hit and you get backstabs.

Well, especially to make sure the Call doesn't end up targeting anything else.

But yeah, can get guaranteed backstabs on all the arrows by standing right behind the boss.

[sweet brook]

And doesn't hit the invulnerability bubble

[slate pecan]

gotcha, thank u

ok got everything! time to head in!

[polar isle]

orpheus is singing yessss

[gray haven]

Build is a little weak and max HP is low, but Flurry lets you attack pretty safely, and you have Weak and Hyper Sprint for damage reduction, so that's good.

And chunky Call at least.

[opaque scroll]

Nice Aphro build.

[slate pecan]

graaahhhh
lost again

[slate pecan]

ty

[opaque scroll]

F

You’ll get there.

Is there a specific thing you’re having a problem with tho?

[slate pecan]

its mainly the ||second phase|| thats really giving me trouble

not to mention i somehow end up taking too much damage during the ||first phase||
both tbh

[opaque scroll]

Taking acorn instead of lucky tooth could help.

[coral yoke]

just takes practice is all

[slate pecan]

ohh i see
i just gotta make sure i dont waste one of my revives on smthn stupid like the elysium boss fight

[coral yoke]

keep in mind dash attacking doesn't have iframes and constantly think about when it's safe and when it isn't

[opaque scroll]

True

[coral yoke]

sometimes you have to slow yourself down, it's a first clear so just look out for seams to get attacks in safely

[opaque scroll]

Yeah, that one’s a toughie early game, I assume you focus Asterius and then deal with Theseus after?

[coral yoke]

spear

[gray haven]

Taking Acorn into Elysium will help a lot.

And then keep it on for the rest of the run.

[opaque scroll]

The Nacho Spear is an option.

[opaque scroll]

OH YEAH, damn, I actually forgot I used to do that.

I didn’t

[slate pecan]

what is ambrosia used for? i kiiinda wanna trade one in for titan blood but if its too valuable i wont

[slate pecan]

indeed

[leaden whale]

Is there any reason why I can't max out extreme measures

[slate pecan]

also can i undo any power ups ive done w titan blood and get the blood back?

hmmm. spear time methinks

[gray haven]

Same as Nectar, but at high affinity.

Trading in a few for Titan Blood isn't a bad idea.

[slate pecan]

hm i see! ty
usingn spear now, attack focused

[opaque scroll]

Misery, otherwise go for it.

[opaque scroll]

Try to get extending jap, you can cheese a lot of stuff without getting hurt with it.

[gray haven]

Spoiler tags for ||the Pact of Punishment|| in this channel. As for your question, ||EM4 unlocks a bit after the ending (10 clears).||

[slate pecan]

should i take a boon from aphrodite or go to charons?

[slate pecan]

ooh where do i get that? the hammer?

[gray haven]

Always Lady Aphrodite.

[opaque scroll]

Ye, it’s my fave hammer.

[gray haven]

Best spear hammer is Flurry Jab.

[slate pecan]

nice
i love the flurry attacks lol

[gray haven]

By a decent margin.

[opaque scroll]

Always

[slate pecan]

should i take wave of despair or different league?

[opaque scroll]

Different League

[slate pecan]

kk!

took athenas keepsake into tartarus, whose should i take into asphodel? aphrodite, artemis, poseidon, ares

[opaque scroll]

Poseidon, knockback goes crazy in Asphodel.

[slate pecan]

kk!

why did i just lose a life to some random asphodel chamber. this is so EMBARASSING!!!!!

chaos gate but im low on health.....urggg

[dark fog]

wooohooo, it's my first time defeating the Bone Hydra!!! Elysium is beautiful O.o

[slate pecan]

good job!

[gray haven]

I wouldn't worry too much about it, some enemy combos in some chambers can just be a lot harder than others.

And sometimes early on you don't find a lot of max HP yet or your build is still lacking etc.

[slate pecan]

ty u_u

[gray haven]

Plenty of opportunities to maybe get your DD back still.

[slate pecan]

hoping i run into ||patroclus|| eventually

should i check out the chaos gate even tho im low on health?

[polar isle]

i hate theseus

[slate pecan]

me too

[gray haven]

Fear is for the weak.

[slate pecan]

eeeee

[gray haven]

If it doesn't work out, you at least can say you tried.

Chaos Gates can be very high value.

[slate pecan]

there goes another DD

[gray haven]

You were already hoping to see Patroclus anyway.

[slate pecan]

oh well
one thjng i like abt this game is even when you die, whether stupid deaths or not, you still feel like ur making progress

yea tru

[gray haven]

Yeah.

[slate pecan]

ooh support fire nice

[gray haven]

You also notice you're getting better over time.

[opaque scroll]

Oop, was that my fault?

[opaque scroll]

I say do it cuz it’s fun but if you really wanna win, prolly not.

[opaque scroll]

One of my fave boons.

[polar isle]

escaped for the eighth time! ||im getting close to the true ending!||

[leaden whale]

How do I use ||Raging Rush? I'm recalling my spear and no dash happens||

[modern briar]

Are you in the skelly test room

[leaden whale]

Yes

[modern briar]

do you see the instructions at the top of the screen

[opaque scroll]

WOOOOOOOOH!!!!

Get em, do it for Artie.

[opaque scroll]

I think that’s just on shield?

[sweet brook]

That's Achilles spear

You don't recall the spear

You hit the other button

Idk which button is the recall but press the other button

[modern briar]

the attack button right

[leaden whale]

I do ||but it just says press Q to skewer and recall||

[sweet brook]

Well don't recall

[leaden whale]

Just attacking provides the same result

[modern briar]

It most definitely has more up there

[slate pecan]

the run has died T_T
oh whale

damn butterfly ball

[leaden whale]

I could send you a screenshot

[modern briar]

please do

[flint charm]

nope, i had zeus boon striking thunder + a chance for double strikes

[opaque scroll]

Kk, I was wondering if you had sumn special on it.

[slate pecan]

starting a new run w flurry shot hell yeaaaaa

[opaque scroll]

How did the last run go?

[modern briar]

@leaden whale you don’t have the achilles aspect selected in the image you sent me

Raging Rush is achilles only you have zag spear set up

[leaden whale]

Dude my Aspect Of Achilles is LV1

[modern briar]

yeah but you asked how to do raging rush

Lv1 achilles is also better than zag spear anyways

[leaden whale]

Wait can you only choose one

[sweet brook]

yes

[leaden whale]

Oh I thought all of them applied to your weapon

[sweet brook]

nope

[modern briar]

That would be funny

also probably impossible for it to work well

[sweet brook]

there is a mod that combines all the aspects into one

[slate pecan]

Bad

but this one is going awesome im shredding thru enemies like theyre paper

[leaden whale]

Also ||Does the Daedalus Hammer Augment for Malphon where it makes your special do damage when you land apply boons?||

[slate pecan]

lemme send a pic of my build

[sweet brook]

no clue, but it might considering explosive return does

but also i'm fairly certain that hammer sucks for fists

quake cutter?

[slate pecan]

https://imgur.com/a/yybuh7P

btw hermes or shop

[sweet brook]

what hammer is that btw

flurry?

[slate pecan]

ya

orrr pom ig

[sweet brook]

hermes for swift strike would be funny but not necessary, shop is better

hope for zeus to get static discharge

if not, then storm lightning to open up the legendary

you might get offered lightning rod tho lol

[slate pecan]

aight shop it is

storm lightning nice

break time tho. switch has to charge

[opaque scroll]

Damn, Extending Jab was that bad?

[slate pecan]

i dont think i had extending jab last time

[opaque scroll]

Zamn.

[opaque scroll]

O, well it looks like u’ve got a good Bow build going.

Tho tbh, I’m so garbage with bow I can’t tell.

[sweet brook]

it's

certainly interesting for a bow build lmao

it's like

budget rail lmao

[opaque scroll]

Lel.

[sweet brook]

oh side note, dark foresight is much better than olympian favor

your very last mirror upgrade there

[opaque scroll]

When you can’t afford Rail:

[opaque scroll]

Yep, u get more hammers and other stuff, I personally like the Damage buff of Olympian Favour, but my playstyle should never be an example.

[slate pecan]

rail but i dont have ta reload ;3

[slate pecan]

zamn

[sweet brook]

rarity doesn't matter much in most cases except ares and aphrodite atk/special and static discharge

[sweet brook]

get delta chamber then lmao

[opaque scroll]

TRUUUUUUUE

[sweet brook]

flurry strike bow and delta chamber rail both rely on a hammer anyways lol

and delta chamber is bugged to give you full iframes during dash striking

[slate pecan]

but bow is so fuuuuun
just go crazy

[sweet brook]

so delta chamber is much better than flurry bow

[slate pecan]

i may have to check out the rail then

if only for extra boss rewards

[opaque scroll]

Wait… Olympian Favour is the 5% damage buff for each god rii?

[sweet brook]

no

that's 40% chance for rare

[opaque scroll]

Rail’s hella fun tbh, I like Hestia build.

[slate pecan]

hestia huh
is that an npc i havent met yet

[sweet brook]

aspect

[opaque scroll]

Ahhhhhhh, so Dark Foresight is the Duo/ Legendary one?

[sweet brook]

no

[slate pecan]

ohhh oop

[sweet brook]

that's 20% more likely to get gold laurels

you literally had it right the first time

[opaque scroll]

Hold on… so why’d u say this?

[sweet brook]

because dark foresight is not the duo/legendary one?

[sweet brook]

this is dark foresight

[sweet brook]

this was family favorites

[opaque scroll]

I get that but aren’t they on different positions of the mirror?

[sweet brook]

this was gods' legacy

[opaque scroll]

OHHHHHHHH

Okay, I get it now.

[sweet brook]

"get more hammers and other stuff" is dark foresight

[opaque scroll]

Have ya beaten the game yet?

[opaque scroll]

Ye.

[slate pecan]

have not, still trying to get past ||hades||

[opaque scroll]

Ahhhh, well you’ll find out after you beat him.

[sweet brook]

what

how is knowing what aspects are tied to beating the game

you just need to unlock the rail and go on a run afterwards

to get aspects

[opaque scroll]

I meant ||Titan’s Blood||

[sweet brook]

oh i see

[slate pecan]

spoiler text....i want to click but i Shant

[opaque scroll]

Yes, good.

You'll find out in good time.

[opaque scroll]

OH YEAH!!!

My b.

[slate pecan]

aight back at it fellas! just beat hydra

[opaque scroll]

LEZZZ GOOOOO

Build pic?

[slate pecan]

should i go w hammer or zeus?
thx!!

[opaque scroll]

Show build first.

[slate pecan]

the same as earlier!

"budget rail" someone said lol

[opaque scroll]

Oop:

Hold on.

[slate pecan]

here be

[opaque scroll]

Zeus Special.

[slate pecan]

woooo ok

[opaque scroll]

(Even though I hate Zeus)

[slate pecan]

wait im not really focusing on special
mostly attack

[opaque scroll]

Eh, go for hammer.

It’s fun.

[eternal warren]

On Zag bow I almost never use the special ngl

[slate pecan]

alrighty lets go hammer

[opaque scroll]

Completely clueless on bow, just winging it tbh.

[slate pecan]

got a zeus boon at shop! electric shot, lightning rod, and heavens vengeance!

think im gonna go lightning rod!

[opaque scroll]

What that do again?

Where u at btw?

[eternal warren]

lightning strikes your bloodstones on the ground

[opaque scroll]

https://clipchamp.com/watch/HqL1obo4AIH

Love 'Dice.

[opaque scroll]

Ayo?

[slate pecan]

NO LIVES LOST AGAINST THE HEROES AYYYYY

[opaque scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/pumped-up-hype-gif-13746267

[opaque scroll]

That's hype af.

[opaque scroll]

Send pic of boons.

Damn, I just left Eurydice's room on my end.

[slate pecan]

aight just a sec!

https://imgur.com/a/z5IdYfU

[sweet brook]

is there an athena door

by chance

[slate pecan]

lemme look!

[sweet brook]

and is there athena and/or artemis in the shop

[slate pecan]

there is an athena door!

no athena boon tho!

[sweet brook]

take that, her special boon will be guaranteed

wait

is there artemis in the shop

[slate pecan]

nope

[sweet brook]

okay well there goes that idea

was gonna hope for deadly reversal

no artemis door either?

[slate pecan]

there is one!

[sweet brook]

oh neat

take athena door first

take her special

will be guaranteed btw

and then artemis

hope for deadly reversal

[slate pecan]

mmm....shouldnt i take something for attack instead? since this is an attack based run

[sweet brook]

the duo will give you a global 40% crit chance for 2 seconds whenever you deflect

you just need her special to open up the duo

[slate pecan]

ohhh!

[leaden whale]

Disappears

[slate pecan]

welp, off to athenas door!

[sweet brook]

if there's any zeus doors or zeus boon in the shop, get those too

static discharge and/or splitting bolt

[slate pecan]

no special from athena

[sweet brook]

huh

shouldn't it be guaranteed since you dont have a special boon

[slate pecan]

divine strike, blinding flash, bronze skin
i see no point in divine strike as i already have lightning strike
idk! guess not

[sweet brook]

oh bruh divine strike replacement that's why

that's actually unfortunate

[slate pecan]

zamn...oh well
bronze skin or blinding flash?

[sweet brook]

welp probably blinding flash i guess

[slate pecan]

kk!

alright, what next? theres coin, artemis, pom, heart

[sweet brook]

heart

[slate pecan]

kk!

ugh, damnit, lost a life and a good chunk of health
stupid snakestones

alright got the sack and an artemis boon

thank god for the fountain

alright i have a little over 500 coins, lets see my options here

zeus 450 pom 100 and 300 hermes 500

whats yalls onions

[opaque scroll]

Hermes

[slate pecan]

aight hermes it is!

ooh! greater evasion, quick recovery, or greater haste?

[opaque scroll]

Greater Evasion.

U got good reflexes?

[slate pecan]

mmmm....theyre ok

[opaque scroll]

Quick Recovery can be good, but u need to dash when hit.

[slate pecan]

evasion it is!
abt to head in but i may take a quick break to eat dinner first

[slate pecan]

LETS GOOOOOOOOO I BEAT HIM AND ||MET PERSEPHONE||!!!!! ||IM SAD I HAD TO LEAVE HER BUT IM STILL HAPPY!!!||

[bright harness]

first win or

[slate pecan]

yes!!!!!

[bright harness]

nice job

[slate pecan]

tyyyyyy!!

[bright harness]

trust me it gets way easier for the next few after my first win I’ve won like at least every other run since then lmao

[slate pecan]

good to know!!

[bright harness]

but even if it’s not like that
dw everyone plays games at their own pace

[slate pecan]

my pace being obsessing over it like a madman for several days straight

[bright harness]

awesome that was me too

I’ve only had the game a month and a half and I’ve recently past 20 clears

[slate pecan]

very nice!

||wow hades is an absolute douche. pretending it straight up didnt happen||

||pact of punishment huh...|| are the rewards worth it?

[bright harness]

||you can reclaim the first time per weapon rewards for each heat up to 20, so yes it is bc you will need the stuff, btw if you want check #h1-high-heat-strategies pins for a heat guide||

[sweet brook]

Considering you probably want more titan blood, yes

[slate pecan]

ok!

btw, how far thru the story am i at this point? the story (and characters) is like the main thing im playing the game for

[opaque scroll]

^

[slate pecan]

BRUH

h...how long am i gonna be playing this game.......

[opaque scroll]

“Forevermore”

[slate pecan]

im gonna have to juggle between this game and splatoon 3, my other current game obsession

also this is kind of a subjective question but does the rest of the game have this sort of "uphill battle" type feeling? or do things get easier after a while

[opaque scroll]

Depends on you tbh.

Pact of Punishment

Just depends on what u choose.

[slate pecan]

im prooobably not gonna do that. probably

[opaque scroll]

Lel.

Just have fun tbh.

[slate pecan]

can do!

[sweet brook]

things get easier in the sense that you learn from every death and get better at the game
also ||you dont have to use the pact of punishment at all if you want to clear runs. yeah you dont get the titan blood and whatever, but still possible lol||

[heavy anchor]

just get 1.2k lul

[sweet brook]

that's not exactly a reliable way to get titan blood

[polar isle]

i wish i could give ||alecto|| nectar

[opaque scroll]

Yeah, her and Tisi.

It’d be so fun progressing with em.

Tisi eventually speaks coherent sentences, Alecto warms up to us and mortals in general.

[gray haven]

Alecto is perfectly perfect just the way she is. Sweet, caring, kind.

[leaden whale]

Also, I don't know about "coherent sentences" for Tisiphone, but I do love that she adds a certain name to her vocabulary

[opaque scroll]

Lel.

[opaque scroll]

Indeed, and a certain emotion.

[opal tiger]

How do people call for cerberus? I've seen some videos but idk what that's from

[eternal warren]

You can't unfortunately

It's ||in the final boss harder version (extreme measures 4)||

[gray haven]

Spoiler tags.

[eternal warren]

Thought it'd be vague enough but eh doesn't hurt

[tacit kite]

Fated Persuasion or Fated Authority

[plucky urchin]

persuasion

[opaque scroll]

Authority.

[eternal warren]

Persuasion.

Usually you can get the gods you want with the keepsakes and having more precise control is more useful

[opal tiger]

Is it rare to get rushed delivery

[feral veldt]

So I've made my way to the end of Elysium, and now have to face the boss. I have the spear and Divine Dash, as well as some other stuff that I can't remember the names of. Any strategies I should implement into my movement or combat to beat the boss?

Or is this a better question for #h1-builds-and-combat ?

[coral yoke]

if you focus down the bull first theseus is a piece of cake afterwards

just be wary of what theseus is doing

a stunlock from a spear toss while the bull is going at it could ruin your day

[feral veldt]

okay, noted

okay so I had to use my last death defiance but I beat 'em :D

[gray haven]

Often good to fight Asterius behind the pillars a good distance away from Theseus.

Although you'd want to try to keep Theseus on screen at least so you know from where he's throwing his spear, so you can get on the other side of the pillar from him.

If he's off-screen, headphones help.

[feral veldt]

I'll pay attention for sound cues next time then

[eternal warren]

He puts a pink target icon on you when preparing to throw, but it can be easy to miss when you're focused on other things

[feral veldt]

I noticed the pink target icon a lot, if anything I found the fight was easier the further I got
even his last zeus phase felt pretty easy, but that's not saying much considering I walked out with 17 health

[sullen imp]

is there a way to force trials? the rooms where you pick 2 boons and fight one?

[viscid notch]

No

[sullen imp]

damnit, it's the only achievement i'm missing, to use a call during one of those

[viscid notch]

Just do a few runs, they're not that uncommon

[pallid cypress]

has to be great call fyi

[polar isle]

ive had almost 70 hours in this game and im somehow still not tired of it

i still haven't even gotten the true ending

[opaque scroll]

Best part of a roguelike.

[summer zenith]

i have been palying hades for quite long but i can't beat ||hades|| or even the heros with the railgun i really want to try the secret aspect on but it's tough

[opaque scroll]

What Aspect are u using?

[summer zenith]

i am using diffrent aspects in diffrent runs,

[opaque scroll]

Okay, so is there something specific that’s a problem why u can’t beat the Heroes/||Hades||?

Also spoiler that.

Have you tried Lucky Tooth or Acorn?

[summer zenith]

i tried acorn

[pallid cypress]

u tried some op builds?

[summer zenith]

i don't know op builds specific for the rail

[pallid cypress]

ah for rail go zeus attack with jolted

thats the best i think

for normal rai

[summer zenith]

i see, i'll try it any other gods i need?

[pallid cypress]

ig for dash poseidon or athena

[modern briar]

Basic rail run is zeus attack, percent god on special, poseidon dash for damage

[short hawk]

What are some solid builds I can use, and how exactly do you get bonds with some characters?

Made it to Styx with pretty much luck with a duo boon, so how do I get good again?

[opaque scroll]

Get shield, get Splash Dash, profit.

[upbeat trench]

yo guys question

so pretty much

im thinking abt buying hades
but the thing is ik its a rougelike and i dont like games where u loose everything when u die cuz i enjoy progression
does this game have any perma upgrades
cuz for me some of the best parts of gaming is gaining strength in the game

[opaque scroll]

Yes, it has perma upgrades.

Get the game, join us.

[opaque scroll]

Seriously, a good build would be Zagfist and Lambent Plume with Rush Delivery and Greater Evasion to supplement it and Heartbreak Flourish with Deadly Strike for damage.

[short hawk]

Did have Heartbreak strike with Zagfist

I just never got a pom to upgrade it

so most if not all of my damage relied on that uppercut

had exposed with athena's dash, so I did get that double effect damage.

but even then; that does not deny the Lv 7 special from Posiedon

[gray haven]

Errr... language. Bot most be down.

[opaque scroll]

Lel.

Did we finally break it?

[short hawk]

ah

I say bad word

sorry

[opaque scroll]

It’s cool.

[gray haven]

Can just edit your message.

[short hawk]

eh screw it, I'll keep playing Hades later. I can take notes on OP builds once I take a good nap

Adios, will come back in a bit

[thin heart]

it's not a roguelike, else there would be no perma upgrades

[eternal warren]

sometime's there's the distinction of:
roguelike - no perma upgrades
roguelite - yes perma upgrades

but some people just like use the term roguelike to describe all of them which is a bit confusing

[opaque scroll]

Yep, a good way to think of it is that Roguelite’s are a subset of Roguelikes but there’s all roguelikes in the end.

[restive briar]

Pure roguelikes like Isaac aren’t as popular as roguelites

Not anymore

[opaque scroll]

Eh Issac’s still a monolith.

[upbeat trench]

what is rougelite

what even is rouge

sry lol im new to this style of game

im a big souls fan and also enjoy open worlds

[eternal warren]

it was an old retro game, so games similar are called rogue-like

[upbeat trench]

ok

ohh

did it have no perma upgrades

[sweet brook]

rogue like/lite is basically, every time you die you restart from the beginning

depending if it's like or lite, there would be external upgrades i think

[upbeat trench]

ok

cuz i can enjoy games where u do alot of runs and evantually make it

but i like perma upgrades

[eternal warren]

having randomly generated rooms is also part of it (so like mario isn't a roguelike)

[upbeat trench]

ye

i get it

btw

[sweet brook]

oh yeah the random rooms that's important lmao

[upbeat trench]

do yk if 68gb free on a 500gb hard drive is k ik this is random but

i got it

[sweet brook]

"mario is a roguelike" was not a take i was ready for today and thank god it's not accurate

[upbeat trench]

but i only have 68gb free rn

cuz i have a bunch of big games on my pc atm

[sweet brook]

this game is like

[upbeat trench]

i mean 89 gb free rn

[sweet brook]

10 gb or something

[upbeat trench]

ik that u need like 15% or smth

free on ur pc

so im just askin does anyone here know is 68gb free on a 500gb hard drive is alr

[ebon sable]

i luv hades

[upbeat trench]

wth

vulkan hades

what

[opaque scroll]

Huh?

[upbeat trench]

yo

i just got a option

at the beginning of the game

do i pick divine strike as my boon

[opaque scroll]

Get Divine Dash.

[upbeat trench]

oh

alr

why

is it good

[opaque scroll]

Basically everytime you dash you’re invincible and u fling everything back at the enemy.

[upbeat trench]

.

oh

[opaque scroll]

It arguably the best boon in the game.

[upbeat trench]

so its just like hollow knights shade clock but no cooldown

[opaque scroll]

Yep.

[upbeat trench]

oh yeah thats def op

[opaque scroll]

How’s it feel?

[upbeat trench]

very good

btw

question

are boons perma

[hushed cape]

You can sell them

[opaque scroll]

Nah, they only last for the run, you unlock the perma stuff after u die.

[upbeat trench]

aww

that sucks

[viscid notch]

See you’re already invincible when you dash regardless, it’s just that most people don’t know that only dashes have iframes, not dashstrikes, and they’re not very deliberate and aware when using them

[upbeat trench]

me just died

[opaque scroll]

Ah, true. Mb.

[upbeat trench]

what does it do then

[opaque scroll]

F.

How’d u die?

Miniboss?

[upbeat trench]

uhh

idk i just got the game 3 minutes ago

bro im 10 minutes in

oh

i got 6 chambers in'

[opaque scroll]

Oh cool.

[upbeat trench]

yo

the purple stuff is perma and the keys too right

what weapon do i unlock first

what is good

[opaque scroll]

Shield.

There’s a couple others but you have to unlock everything to get em.

[upbeat trench]

ok

bro big w

lets goo dude

just killed 1st boss i think

and i just died

should i upgrade greater reflex

[opaque scroll]

Wh-

Wait… How many attempts are you on?

[opaque scroll]

Yep.

[upbeat trench]

so is shield good

[upbeat trench]

3

my farthest gotten is 12 rooms i think

and i have 75 purple thingysd

btw

i also have 3 keys now

should i get shield

[upbeat trench]

is that rly good or smth

[opaque scroll]

I think it is, but I also play really weird. Still you’re definitely above average.

[opaque scroll]

Ye.

[sweet brook]

shield kinda funky

[opaque scroll]

Where u at now?

[upbeat trench]

wdym where am i ad

i just got shield so ye

now the game is wayy to easy

litterialy got hit once and thats cuz my game froze for a sec

unless the later floors get wayy harder

ima stop using shield

cuz its laughable how easy it feels now

i just got gemstones

wth

bro what the heck

the game is SO MUCH MORE EASY

[sweet brook]

Lmao wait a bit

[opaque scroll]

U reached the second boss yet?

[upbeat trench]

yeah just did 20 seconds

ago

lol

does she have purple hair

or like

idk what the hair is

kinda purple

name is

mcgaca or smth

[opaque scroll]

Wait…

😆

[upbeat trench]

the first boss are the monkeys right

[opaque scroll]

Bro, that’s the miniboss.

[upbeat trench]

oh my bad

[opaque scroll]

You just met the first boss.

[upbeat trench]

sorry lol

[opaque scroll]

Nah, that’s fine, you wouldn’t know.

Ai, tell me how it went after.

[upbeat trench]

k

ima prob die

shes around 35% hp but im very low

dude

shes 5% hp but im on 1 health

did it

aww i died nopw

[opaque scroll]

U clutched it?

Or nah?

[wise sphinx]

is there a way to predict how to find sisyphus and the other NPCs that appear during runs?

[opaque scroll]

Nope.

Just luck.

[wise sphinx]

damn, the amount of times you gotta talk to NPCs in this game to progress their story seems kind of overwhelming

can i just give them an ambrosia, or do i really need to do 15 runs to progress the relationship

[opaque scroll]

15 runs minimum, dw u'll get used to it.

Just try to have fun in the meanwhile.

[upbeat trench]

i clutched

[wise sphinx]

yea, i need to teach myself this. i think too much about 100% a game, instead of just playing till i no longer have fun. its good to know that runs wont take as long. my runs are like close to 30 min right now

[opaque scroll]

LEZZZZZ GOOOOO!!!!

Ai, so whatcha doin now?

[opaque scroll]

Ye, just enjoy the game in your own way, everything will come in good time.

[wise sphinx]

yea, im just not good with sticking to things, so i am worried that i willl get bored and quit the game after i "beat it" a few times and before i finish the characters storylines. i guess i can just look them up on YT if it comes to that

[opaque scroll]

I’m quite the same, so I can at least say there’s a decent chance you won’t get bored.

[wise sphinx]

alright, imma try not to worry about it. thank you!

[opaque scroll]

Aye, np.

[upbeat trench]

a few more runs

question

so

death defience is perma right

yo

just found the boss again

time for attempt 2

lets beat her again

aww i died

she was so low but its alr

[hushed cape]

Who you fighting

[upbeat trench]

first boss

[opaque scroll]

Ye.

[upbeat trench]

ngl

just cuz i can rage rly bad if i struggle

ima turn on god and get that percent up to like 50

just in case i get super mad i will turn it on and cheese hard

[upbeat trench]

is thick skin good for any builds

any build

ima prob do a shield build

[modern briar]

you mean

[bronze lark]

honestly i've always had thick skin on my mirror, makes tartarus less dangerous if you don't get enough centaur hearts

[modern briar]

The mirror option?

that’s not really a build based thing

[upbeat trench]

it isint

wdym

[modern briar]

I find it better for beginners/mid game

[upbeat trench]

how is it not build based

[modern briar]

the other option just isn’t that viable when you get hit a lot

[modern briar]

it’s a mirror option for more health

[bronze lark]

is there even any reason to pick high confidence?

[modern briar]

It’s skill based

[upbeat trench]

wdym skill based

[modern briar]

thick skin gives you more health

[upbeat trench]

cant u only use a few speciifc upgrades

cuz ppl saying like

they dropped death defience

for like

smth else

[modern briar]

High confidence gives you a damage boost if you have 80% health

The moment you dip below that you lose the benefit

Without thick skin you have like 50 health

The moment your health dips below 40 it goes off

[upbeat trench]

question then btw

so

u can only have a few specific things equipped at once right

[modern briar]

you can’t have both sides of the mirror active at a time yes

[opaque scroll]

To flex.

[bronze lark]

lmao never gonna be above 80% on 32 heat

[modern briar]

Just don’t get hit smh

[opaque scroll]

Yes SD

[bronze lark]

thanks im cured, bouta do perfect run

[eternal warren]

you can have every row active at the same time, iirc you haven't gotten that far in so later on there'll be alternate choices for the mirror

[opaque scroll]

It’s really fun, u respawn once every encounter.

[upbeat trench]

wdym both sides

[bronze lark]

mirror has green and purple sides

[opaque scroll]

You can switch from Death Defiance to Stubborn Defiance.

[modern briar]

Just keep on playing mate

If you don’t have the option yet then it doesn’t help you

[upbeat trench]

ye but i dont wanna waste me keys on bad stuff

[eternal warren]

the mirror and weapon unlocks are the only things you can use keys for, just spend it when you can

you can't make a mistake and put them in the wrong place

[opaque scroll]

You just have to spend one key to reset and it’s only when you think what you have isn’t optimal.

[upbeat trench]

k

i just want to not waste darkness

[opaque scroll]

Fair.

Just pick what u find interesting.

[eternal warren]

Mostly you don't have to worry about it, just try things out and have fun

[upbeat trench]

ok

i guess ima prob just save to 500 darkness to get another death defience

cuz ik its really really really good

[restive briar]

I think earlier on, I benefitted from stubborn defiance more

[upbeat trench]

what does it do

[restive briar]

Cuz I was taking dmg and almost dying every room

[heavy anchor]

I think that’s because earlier you die everywhere but later it’s mostly bosses

[restive briar]

Exactly

[heavy anchor]

Stubborn gives you one respawn per room

[restive briar]

Stubborn defiance gives a life every room

[upbeat trench]

how does it work

like

does it reset

and how do i unlock it

[eternal warren]

Eventually Nyx will talk to you and let you switch to the other option

[upbeat trench]

also

another thing

so im getting god more to a high % cuz if i rage i dont wanna have to still struggle

but im realing

everything does like 2-3 dmg

so it doesnt rly help

cuz everything already deals barley any dmh

dmg

btw question

i dont think i will but if i still struggle with god mode at 80% are there invinciability mods just cuz i dont like thinking i cant get over something or theres no workaround

[faint umbra]

not that i can see, but if you ask on the modding server which is pinned in #self-promotion they could possibly help you if you are still struggling

there are also boons that give you more damage reduction and dodge chance so that will reduce your chance of taking damage even further

[upbeat trench]

alr

[cold ice]

Hey! I just beat hades for the first time ever, and I was wondering how many attempts does it take for the average player to beat hades?

[jagged stump]

Differs a lot from player to player

Around 20-60 depending on skill I think

[eternal warren]

I agree with those numbers

[raw vessel]

can you have tripple shot and cluster at the same time?

[eternal warren]

As in hammers for the rail special? No

You can see if hammers are compatible in the weapon wiki page https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Adamant_Rail

[raw vessel]

thanks

is hazard bomb worth the risk?

[cold ice]

Cool thanks! :)

[jagged stump]

Depends on whether or not you're using eris

I think it's generally kinda meh

If you're using eris don't pick it at all

[raw vessel]

good to know

[jagged stump]

Rocket bomb + cluster bombs is op

Got a new pb twice with it

[raw vessel]

aight bet

and with ||beowolf|| is trippy or crush shot better??

[jagged stump]

Flood flare

[pastel mica]

I'd take aphro over trippy unless you already are using stygian talent, but I'd take flood flare over either

[raw vessel]

k

[raw vessel]

does minotor rush effect the cast charge on ||beowulf||

[pastel mica]

it'll effect your rush itself but the casts are separate, they're only triggered by the rush

[sharp abyss]

is the dmg buff from ||pierced butterfly|| removed if I unequip it mid run

[sweet brook]

yes

[summer zenith]

does the plume dodge% effect remain after we replace it?

[viscid notch]

No

[cloud cedar]

I started hades yesterday but i've been struggling to reliably get to ||hades||. ALmost beat him once. Is there some general advice to get good?

I have mainly played with the bow thus far

[upbeat spoke]

If you started yesterday don't sweat it, just keep playing

it's pretty much impossible not to beat him at some point once you get enough upgrades

[cloud cedar]

Is picking health upgrades or that pommegrenade for weapon upgrades generally better?

[viscid notch]

Spoiler the boss name in this channel

[viscid notch]

It depends on where you are in the run and what your build is, you need both

For the bow get used to dash striking

Every single shot you take should be a dash strike

It’s faster and scales better

Ignore the Special and pay attention to where you’re dashing, dashes have full iframes but dash strikes strip them, so you want to empty dash when trying to avoid attacks

[cloud cedar]

I didn't try that. I'll try to get accustomed

[opaque scroll]

What keepsake do u bring into the fight?

[cloud cedar]

Didn't have to many so I just took the +10% Damage to distant foes

[opaque scroll]

Do u have acorn or lucky tooth?

[cloud cedar]

no sadly not

[upbeat spoke]

try to get some more nectar and give them to characters you haven't given it to yet, some keepsakes can be huge help

[opaque scroll]

No lie.

Give a nectar to Skully.

[cloud cedar]

I will. THough some (I saw others give nectar to) I cannot give yet... Like ||cerberus ||||the dummy|| or ||sissyphus||

[upbeat spoke]

you can track characters in codex, if they have empty first heart you haven't given them yet

[cloud cedar]

Like there isn't a button pop up

[upbeat spoke]

button will only show if you have nectar on you

[cloud cedar]

Don't have the codex either :/

[viscid notch]

Just keep talking to them and progress the story

[cloud cedar]

I do have two nectars

[upbeat spoke]

if you don't have codex yet you are very early on

[opaque scroll]

Talk to Achilles.

[gray remnant]

hey, for your average joe, how long it usually takes (hrs played, maybe) to beat ||hades||? just wondering whether its indeed hard or i just need to gitgut

[opaque scroll]

Honestly, couldn’t give u an exact time.

[cloud cedar]

Like outside of dungeons? In dungeons he's just spitting flavor text as of now

[upbeat spoke]

kinda depends how good you are, from what I've seen it can be anywhere between 10 to 50 runs

[cloud cedar]

I am 5 hours in and almost beat him once (15% or sth). Maybe ||he has a second phase once bar hits 0 though i don't know||

[opaque scroll]

Ye.

[cloud cedar]

Where is he?

[opaque scroll]

Do u wanna know?

[faint umbra]

I’ve seen people who haven’t beaten final boss 100 runs in, so don’t give up! everyone at their own pace

[opaque scroll]

He’s just turn the corbels near Hypnos.

[gray remnant]

im 8hrs in
yeah you're right, at my own pace. but wondering if i miss something fundamental

tbf i only met him twice. on my 14th run. so im fine, i guess?

[upbeat spoke]

definetly fine

[viscid notch]

That’s very normal

[gray remnant]

👌

[cloud cedar]

What would you say is the easiest weapon to beath the game with?

[opaque scroll]

Shield.

[cloud cedar]

And mouse+keyboard or controller?

What playstyle would you recommend with the shield?

[opaque scroll]

I only know keyboard, but I haven’t had any problems with it.

[viscid notch]

It’s more about the build and combos that you get

If you get lucky and come across good things in a run like a strong hammer you’ll have an easier time

[cloud cedar]

oops

So I'll just jump in and captain america the cuteness out of the underworld folk

[opaque scroll]

Try to get Pos Dash.

[gray haven]

For new players in my experience, it's actually spear or Eris that's the easiest to get their first win with.

[opaque scroll]

Rly? Fists were mine.

[viscid notch]

Fists are also easy to play

[gray haven]

spear: Tidal Dash start > Lightning Strike + Static Discharge OR Deadly Strike + Hunter's Mark. Lots of poms on Tidal Dash and Static Discharge/Hunter's Mark.

Eris: Lightning Strike > Static Discharge and Tidal Dash. Lots of poms on Static Discharge and Tidal Dash. Also pick up a decent % Special along the way (but not Tempest Flourish).

In Elysium, switch to Acorn and keep it on for the rest of the run.

[upbeat spoke]

My first clear ever was Spear but Shield can be played incredibly safe if slow, where you can kinda just walk through the game

[gray haven]

Yeah, but even though I've been helping new players for a couple years, I can't say if my experience is representative of new players in general.

[gray haven]

The thing with the shield is that new players tend to struggle to get any good DPS with it, so the boss fights especially are very slow and there's a lot of room for error.

[opaque scroll]

Fair.

[gray haven]

Easier if you can just mash buttons and everything dies before they can kill you.

[opaque scroll]

Weird to me tho, cuz funnily enough shield’s pretty offensive.

[viscid notch]

It is but it’s not intuitive

When you get the hang of it it’s pretty gud

[gray remnant]

shield's bull rush can block any attack?

[upbeat spoke]

yep

not sure about AOE stuff

but if it's a direct attack and it hits you in the front then it gets blocked

[gray remnant]

oh cool

you think its wise to spend my first 5 titan bloods for zagreus' shield? fist is pretty fun but so does shield

i guess what i meant to ask is do i max one first or how?

[upbeat spoke]

I mean it kinda depends on you, what I did is unlock most of them to try them out and then started maxing stuff out, Zagreus aspects in general I'd say have the least amount of difference between lvl1 and lvl5, but also they don't take much to max out so it's about preference

the other aspects take much more blood to max out

but certains aspects can be incredibly weak until you get them to lvl 4/5

[gray remnant]

alright

[gray haven]

Charging a Bull-Rush blocks attacks. During the actual Bull-Rush, Zag doesn't block; he's fully invincible during the duration.

Zag Shield is a good aspect to max out. My aspect leveling guide is pinned.

[gray remnant]

yessir

i managed to almost beat him ||yes, his 2nd phase too|| by cheese strat... shield, special doom, doom stack. but got panic'd and unpatient at the end, spamming too much shield throw i dont have enough time to block. realized it too late

[opaque scroll]

Ah, got greedy.

Happens to the best of us:

[jagged stump]

Is he also invincible if you get the hammer where he shoots out a beam instead?

[gray remnant]

i really thought that was it man. i mean, curse of agony, curse of pain, dire misfortune and shield.
looking back i shouldnt have spammed throw but just attack lol

[gray haven]

Charged Shot. No.

[gray haven]

You wouldn't want two different sources of Doom because they don't stack.

[gray remnant]

oh? will the reset eachother?

[gray haven]

Pretty sure just the first one you inflict will apply.

[jagged stump]

So it's not like hangover

[upbeat spoke]

no, the first one applied stays. Dire Misfortune adds extra damage for each additional doom applied, but it is very little damage

[jagged stump]

Wich just applies the latest one

[gray haven]

Yeah, I think so. Mind you, I haven't taken two different sources of Doom in like a couple years so I could be misremembering.

Not like it really matters, conclusion is the same: get only one source of Doom.

[jagged stump]

Do revenge boons work when you dodge the attack with hermits keepsake/boon

[gray haven]

Nope.

[upbeat trench]

i just got to 2nd boss

bone hydra

wish me luck

just killed it lets goooo

[opaque scroll]

WOOOOOO!!!

U have acorn?

[upbeat trench]

the heck is that

i got a diamond

just died to miniboss of level 3

yo

so

how do i make my shield do more dps btw

cuz its doig like

none

[opaque scroll]

You use Bull Rush?

And what boons u got on?

[opaque scroll]

Keepsake, u met ||Eurydice|| yet?

[upbeat trench]

what is a keepsake and how do i get one like i see ppl talking about em idfk what they are do

tho

do i get them by gifting the orange juice stuff

[opaque scroll]

Ye

[upbeat trench]

best shield keepsakes

and who do i gift to get thoes

[opaque scroll]

^

[jagged stump]

You can gift everyone you can talk to

[opaque scroll]

Also gift to Skully

[jagged stump]

Except the bosses

[opaque scroll]

Well… there’s one boss…

[jagged stump]

I'd say gift it to the gods first

[opaque scroll]

Eh, up to u.

[upbeat trench]

what does each person give

cuz i want a good shield build

shield so fun

[jagged stump]

Ares

All the gods give the same kind of keepsake

[opaque scroll]

Acorn is best shield keepsake imo

[upbeat trench]

who gives u acron

[opaque scroll]

Eurydice

[upbeat trench]

also where do u get it

[jagged stump]

Asphodel

[opaque scroll]

She’s in a special room in Asphodel

[upbeat trench]

is that level 2

[opaque scroll]

Ye

[upbeat trench]

oh alr

uhh

[jagged stump]

||2, actually (Hades and Meg)||

[upbeat trench]

should i gift to anyone else before that

cuz like

[jagged stump]

Skelly If you want extra life

[upbeat trench]

oh damn so its just a free extra life

does it stack with death defience

[jagged stump]

Gods if you want to guarantee starting with a specific one

[opaque scroll]

Truuuue

[jagged stump]

The keepsake does

Only if it's equiped

[upbeat trench]

is it a good keepsake

[jagged stump]

And yes it stacks with death defiance

If u suck like me, yes

[upbeat trench]

k alr alr

uhh

where is she

cuz i can go and speedrun wr to level 2

[verbal pewter]

do you need to beat hades to get more diamonds and titan blood for all this last stuff?

[upbeat trench]

also

[jagged stump]

First off

Spoiler the name

[opaque scroll]

Door with an exclamation mark as a room reward

[upbeat trench]

ok

btw

should i level death defience to lvl 2 rn

also what do i do with my 22 keys

all i have is shield

[jagged stump]

Do you have the extra dash?

[opaque scroll]

Depends, where do u usually die? Boss or Mob room

[upbeat trench]

no mirror upgrades or anything

[upbeat trench]

boss

[jagged stump]

Unlock kris weapons or mirror upgrades

[upbeat trench]

what is better to unlock for now

ima probably stick with shield

cuz its good and fun to use

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Death Defiance

[jagged stump]

More weapons

U wanna unlock the last weapon asap

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Or save for trades with the Broker or resets.

[upbeat trench]

ye ima just go for it because i can just use a key to reset

and its very helpful for now

[jagged stump]

The go to mirror upgrades are extra dash and death defiance

[verbal pewter]

what about that shackle? does any bioon at all shut that thing off?

[upbeat trench]

should i upg cthotic viatality

[upbeat trench]

ye i did

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Nah, Dark Regen

I think it’s better but u can tell me what u think.

[jagged stump]

I like cthonic viatality

[jagged stump]

Only boons for the special,attack or cast

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Not sure, hold on

[jagged stump]

I don't think chaos boons shut it down

[analog pond]

i got a question, i bought hades yesterday but steam says i only have 7 minutes of playtime even tho i played multiple hours

[verbal pewter]

like passives are fine?

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Yeah it doesn’t affect anything

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This I mean.

[opaque scroll]

Yep

[jagged stump]

Ye

[restive briar]

You’re likely playing it offline by just clicking the hades icon instead of going through steam

[jagged stump]

It's a great keepsake for no boon runs

[verbal pewter]

i thought i won and this guy jas two phases and i need diamonds and blood 😦