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uneven marten
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its not high

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maybe i will try 8

tall urchin
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guys i am just wrecking ||hades|| with that build

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.

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mostly athena gauge savess me a lot

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i see ||hades spin attack indicator|| i just activate gauge and keep attacking

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lmao

static cairn
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hey how do i know if meg has asked me for a favour? i cant remmeber

tall urchin
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i ||finally beaten hades||

static cairn
gilded belfry
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Why people think its weird that i play the game skiping the dialogs ?

slate finch
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because half of hades is a visual novel

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you're missing out on a solid 1/3rd of the game, which intertwines with the gameplay in very important ways

gilded belfry
olive harbor
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I could see skipping dialogue if you’ve beat the game more than once but there’s so many dialogue options that it would just be weird skipping them

slate finch
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like watching a movie on mute because you can read the subtitles

gilded belfry
slate finch
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so it's like watching anime on mute because you can read the subtitles

slate finch
static cairn
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hey how do i know if meg has asked me for a favour?

slate finch
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there'll be a little lock on the codex, just keep playing and talking

static cairn
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okay thanks

slate finch
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the favors are usually gotten just by playing the game more

gilded belfry
static cairn
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yeah because i gave her nectar and i can no longer give anymoe

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just talk to her so i dont know if i can do the favour or not

tall urchin
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guys

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how do i ||unlock aspects ?||

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i ||beaten hades already||

viscid notch
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Unlock all the base weapons

sick lodge
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urgent question

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well not crazy urgent but if i was in the temple and i got the diamond for 1000 will it next be blood for 1250?

viscid notch
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No

sick lodge
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is it random?

viscid notch
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Yes

sick lodge
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ok ty

gilded belfry
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Its only me that expected Dionysus to be a fat weird dude ?

slate finch
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he's the god of parties plus he can shapeshift

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but he was like that in percy jackson iirc so you're probably not the only one

tall urchin
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now what

viscid notch
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Do a run

tall urchin
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?

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with what

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i dont understand

viscid notch
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What’s there to understand

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Just do an attempt

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When you come back to the courtyard it’ll be refreshed

cobalt bay
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I think you also need to have certain conversations? Like if you just haven’t been talking to Achilles each time you go back then it may be a bottleneck? Idk

sweet brook
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no, aspects just need every weapon unlocked

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and then skelly says something about it or something

pastel plank
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Jsut a question but is stubborn defiance + skelly tooth good? Or is 3 death defiance better

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For like

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final boss

novel valve
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3 death defiances

sweet brook
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for bosses, death defiances are always better

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if you find yourself dying in like every room but dont struggle as much on bosses, stubborn defiance is better

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on the other hand, touch of styx dark from Patroclus is incredibly strong and can be stronger than DD

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at that point it'd depend on how many DDs you typically have left when you get to the final fight

pastel plank
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Thx!

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I like having stubborn defiance a lot because im always paranoid😭😭

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But ill take the asvice! Tyy

sweet brook
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if you only die to bosses, it's worth considering switching to DD imo

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but to each their own

pastel plank
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Kinda annoying but ive gotten 2 completed ascape runs so far!

sick lodge
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does anyone wanna vc while i play?

pastel plank
open gust
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what's the difference between stubborn and deaths defiance?

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(and which is better?)

viscid notch
# open gust what's the difference between stubborn and deaths defiance?

You can only get 1 Stubborn Defiance but it heals for less and refreshes every room. However, you can get up to 3 Death Defiances, they heal more but they don't refresh like SD does, you can replenish them in multiple ways tho. Most beginners tend to die multiple times to bosses early on, so using SD isn't that great since it leaves you with a much smaller HP pool. For now stick to Death Defiances. Later on another use for SD will pop up.

open gust
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Awesome thanks

sick lodge
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i havnt beat the final boss yet, but i have both baowulf and author. Which should i use of these two?

dusty vault
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hidden aspects names are spoiler here btw (also dont post the same question in 3 channels lol)
hidden sword is easy to use but either of them is fine, just test them and have fun

sick lodge
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oh sorry

open gust
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for the harpy feather duster, urns are the small vases found around each room right?

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do one affected by the keepsake have a special look or should I just break all of them

dusty vault
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just break them all

sweet brook
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It's also a max of 1 per room

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The % chance in the description doesn't mean anything lol

dusty vault
sweet brook
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Yeah

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According to wiki

viscid notch
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That sounds odd

sweet brook
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No one uses it enough to actually dispute it I guess lmao

viscid notch
sick lodge
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how do you get the lyre for the music fate thing? because the option to have the work guy make it isnt there

tidal condor
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It’s an option for the bedroom I believe

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You might need other bedroom items first idk

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Or a certain number of cosmetic purchases

vagrant fractal
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Are the fists bad?

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cause I almost finished a run with the fists

sweet brook
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they're in the lower half of weapons, but just because they're not as good doesn't mean you can't clear with them

vagrant fractal
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fair

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I kinda like them

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but I also had some great boons

proud citrus
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does charon lower his prices if you give him enough nectar

sweet brook
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no

viscid notch
proud citrus
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? I don't think I said anything bad there but okay. I was saying what's the point of doing that if you don't get bigger value from it

sweet brook
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relationship bonds

proud citrus
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Oh, his is one of the ones necessary for the ||reunion epilogue||?

sweet brook
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first of all spoiler that

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secondly no

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it's just completionist stuff

proud citrus
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Steam achievement?

sweet brook
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idk maybe

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dont remember what they are

proud citrus
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Mythos-wise, doesn't tartarus being the easiest to escape make no sense

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Like, isn't it that tartarus is the prison, and then asphodel is hell, and then elysium is Hell Lite\™

sweet brook
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would you rather have the game start off as hard as possible and then easier lmao

proud citrus
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Would be an interesting roguelike.

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But they could have made the concept ||breaking into hell to save persephone|| instead of ||breaking out of hell to bring persephone to hell||

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Then the zones would have made more sense if it went like that

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It just made me think of it because Hades had a line that said "Is tartarus some kind of joke to you" when getting to the fountain room after meg

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which my only response in my head was "is it a joke to YOU, Hades, this is supposed to be Soul Prison Max Security." if we're going on greek myth anyway

tidal condor
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It doesn’t

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Except sorta in the ||credits||

uneven osprey
# proud citrus Like, isn't it that tartarus is the prison, and then asphodel is hell, and then ...

no part of the greek underworld is hell. tartarus is the deepest level and it is where the titans end up imprisoned, but eg. sisyphus and whathisname on the wheel of flame and tantalus are just like, vibing in the regular areas of the underworld in "canon" and their punishments are by far the most gruesome. elysium is the place where heroes go; the isles of the blest are for people who're ~extra special~. so like... it doesn't make any less sense the way they've done it, particularly

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but most of the underworld is (per mythology) an undifferentiated plain

proud citrus
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Don't know who weel of flame and tantalus guy are?

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But I know sisyphus

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I guess I'm not as good at greek myth

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Okay, tanks for letting me know

uneven osprey
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cannot remember the dude's name but there's a guy strapped to a wheel of fire, and tantalus was a mortal king who iirc fed his kids to the gods so he's cursed to sit by a river and a tree with fruit but any time he tries to eat or drink they move away. so like... grim stuff lol

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but those punishments are reserved for people who commit like, REALLY awful crimes; otherwise the underworld isnt rly like "hell"

uneven osprey
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that sounds right

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admittedly not my direct wheelhouse

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anyway. sucks to be that dude lmao

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i have two and a half degrees in classics i just work on epic 😂 ask me any question about achilles you like but i cannot describe tantalus

slate finch
tired canopy
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Trying to do a explosive shot build with Zag bow, which god keepsake should I start with?

slate finch
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aphrodite

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you should take artemis in aspho for hunterdash and hunter's mark too

tired canopy
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Artemis dash is about dash strike right? I can't seem to get the dash strike timing right for bow's charged attack

slate finch
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learn it, practice on skelly

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always be dash-striking and always be getting the power shot, that's very important for zag bow

tired canopy
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hmm, I'll try

sweet brook
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well if you're gonna practice dash striking and going for explosive shot on zag bow

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that's not gonna help lmao

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explosive shot makes it charge longer

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but also either aphrodite or artemis atk
aphrodite for consistency, arty for more crits

gray haven
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Try to find a rhythm for it.

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But if you're doing Explosive Shot, you're most of the time better off doing a quick-release from point-blank instead of charging it.

gritty thistle
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What's the most effective way to use Olympian keepsakes? I felt that it wasn't as strong as the other keepsakes

sweet brook
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olympian keepsakes are what control what build you get lol

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typically used at the start of tartarus and asphodel

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they're objectively strongest there, since that's when you're gonna meet your first gods that will stay with you for the rest of the run

boreal hedge
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Hello

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I just got the game like 2 days ago and im rlly invested in it already

sweet brook
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it do be like that

boreal hedge
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Ye it do be

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Wanted to ask about the theseus boss fight

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Is there a gimmick where if one of them dies the other gets empowered or anything

sweet brook
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no

boreal hedge
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So its just the half health thing

sweet brook
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yeah

boreal hedge
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Would it be easier if i prioritize thesus first or the bull

sweet brook
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general rule of thumb is to kill the bull first
stay near walls/pillars so bull charges into them

boreal hedge
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Oh ok

sweet brook
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keep a pillar between you and theseus so the spear throws dont hit you, otherwise be mindful of when the spear is thrown

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target bull first because you dont want to deal with the god call, theseus, and bull at the same time

boreal hedge
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Ive been prioritizing theseus first cuz i find it easy to dodge the bulls attack

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But when im too focused on the bull i get hit with the spear

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Ok noted

gray haven
uneven osprey
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theseus's phase two is MUCH more annoying than asterius's so i always focus asterius down first and basically just ignore theseus lmao. sucks to suck for him

tired canopy
sweet brook
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sword, spear, fists are lower half
bow, rail, shield are upper half

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there's no specific order of those halves tho

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but those are split accurately as far as im aware

robust zodiac
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helloo, does auto assist not work on the rail’s special for anyone else? like one time it randomly auto locked onto enemies for a minute or something (I forgot what triggered that) but then it went back to only hitting where the mouse is aimed at

lunar eagle
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Does anyone know what the most popular/well liked weapon is? Just curious

robust zodiac
sweet brook
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to my knowledge, i dont think so but imo it's better if it's locked onto the mouse because you want to turn off "aim at cursor" for the main atk anyways

sweet brook
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for casual players, i think it's like mostly fists

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and chiron probably

lunar eagle
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Interesting

robust zodiac
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but the special still always locks onto the mouse for some reason

tired canopy
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Is the hangover spread boon good or bad

sweet brook
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bad

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hangover overrides itself

tired canopy
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is it just like, one stack of hangover every four seconds

sweet brook
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so say your atk inflicts 8 hangover per second, peer pressure does 4 per second, it's gonna do 4 per second no matter what basicaly

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only have 1 source of hangover ever

tired canopy
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Does that mean all five stacks of hangover on one target must come from the same source

sweet brook
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pretty much yeah, because otherwise it might be doing less damage

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if it doesn't come from the same source, then whichever they got hit with last is gonna be used, and you'd much rather it be 8 per sec instead of 4 per sec

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peer pressure is always gonna be lower than your main source of hangover anyways

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probably

tired canopy
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Ouch

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So if I get 5 stacks of main hangover (8), then the target gets hit with peer pressure (4), hangover will only do 20 damage per 0.5 sec?

leaden whale
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I have 17 titan's blood and none of the hidden aspects. What are some good aspects I should dump into?

teal sigil
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i toggled God Mode back when i first got the game to see what it was and then turned it off, now it always says i have it on in my save slot, this doesn’t make me unable to get certain achievements and stuff right

leaden whale
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I guess the only restriction I can think of, which is not a restriction imposed by god mode but rather on it, is that you can't turn on godmode on a hell mode save, but that's to be expected.

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That said, I can't think of an achievement or anything that requires hell mode. Is there anything like that? Well, if there was, you'd need a new save anyway, so for your current playthrough there's no concern

gray haven
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No achievement that requires hell mode, no.

robust zodiac
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whats the best aspect to invest in for the spear of varatha if i mostly use the special

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aspect of zag or aspect of achilles?

sour terrace
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achillies

robust zodiac
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oki thanks

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should I do it for aspect of zag at all?

sour terrace
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when you put alot of blood on zag aspect, you can do either

robust zodiac
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oo ok

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also if I give up mid run will i get to keep the stuff I got through the run?

sweet brook
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No

robust zodiac
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another thing maybe a dumb qs but how exactly do I get blood through runs, do u have to use a different weapon each time

cobalt bay
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You get it the first time you defeat fury with each weapon, occasionally can buy it in Styx ship, and ||for beating final boss with each weapon. Finally after beating final boss, you get bounties which again award you for defeating fury and final boss. Each time they are claimed, you have to play at higher heat to claim them again.||

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And you can get them from trader in the lounge

mortal shoal
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Yo guys

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I need help finding this plant women name

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That sings in the first level of hell

ashen axle
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Eurydice

viscid notch
cobalt bay
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She’s in second level (asphodel) not first. If you see the “!” chamber reward in asphodel, it will be Eurydice (in Tartarus the same symbol will be Sisyphus)

boreal hedge
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I just fought the final boss for the first time

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I was wondering why he didnt have a phase two when he is half health

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now i know why

kind badge
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i just got the fishing rod but i don’t know where to use it

proven pivot
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Water

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Actual answer: there will be little white rings popping up every so often

old escarp
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Zag will often comment on a fishing spot if he moves near one (only the first time per spot)

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There will also be a chiming sound at the end of combat or upon entering a non-combat room if there is a fishing spot present

fluid forge
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does ||hades|| have an deflectable attacks?

sweet brook
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yes

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||the skull thingies he shoots at you to inflict boiling blood, those can be deflected||

fluid forge
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so should i change|| chill attack ||to deflect attack

sweet brook
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but i think technically every atk can be deflected in the game? not sure tho

sweet brook
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||the chill is nice to help you react||

fluid forge
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if i remember right he has many|| melee atatcks ||so im not sure

sweet brook
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all melee attacks can technically be deflected iirc lmao

proven pivot
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I believe there are exactly 3 attacks in the game that cannot

fluid forge
sweet brook
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if i remember correctly

fluid forge
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so i can reflect almost everything?

open gust
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is there a way to see which bosses I've killed with which weapon?

gray haven
green moth
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how to unlock all the hearth with everyone

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do i just need to keep dying to get it progress

leaden whale
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Okay, seriously, how do I unlock ||Guan-Yu||? I've had 5 aspects unlocked for a while and have done 10 million interactions with Achilles and Patroclus, and have killed ||Hades|| 17 times now

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Do I really just need to keep doing runs? Do I need to give someone more nectar?

gray haven
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Zag Aspects don't count for that.

leaden whale
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let me confirm

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Yep, 5 non-zagspects

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sigh

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Okay

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I'm on a winstreak of 10 right now though, as soon as I die once I'll do that

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(ik winstreaks dont matter but psychology)

gray haven
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If it makes you feel any better, the hidden spear is pretty garbage until Lv.4 or Lv.5 anyway, so that'll cost you like 12-15 Titan Blood. Might as well use the time to get those. tizomg

leaden whale
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Is ||Guan-Yu|| better than Achilles spear btw, in terms of general community regards? It seems like its controversial

leaden whale
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I have 13 titan's blood just sitting

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idc about speed so this sounds ideal

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Yes and I adore it

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Ideal

gray haven
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Achilles is definitely better for ||high heat||. Cast builds go brrr. tizomg

leaden whale
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I know it's a skissue, but :(

leaden whale
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Like, both S-tier?

obtuse holly
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Guys i have a question i have been fishing non stop but there are still 7 undiscovered fishies what im doing wrong

leaden whale
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I mean S-tier for spear.

obtuse holly
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Yes

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I count chaos

leaden whale
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The heck do you reccommend on spear then

obtuse holly
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Final boss biome too

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Legendary fishes ?

leaden whale
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The darkness and resource buff is on the SPEAR, mister (or ma'am)

gray haven
leaden whale
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Therefore you will tell me what the best SPEAR aspect is xD you can't tell me the 2 best spear aspects are C-tier for spear

obtuse holly
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Wait there is a perfect catch

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?

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How do i do it

leaden whale
# obtuse holly Wait there is a perfect catch

Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide

There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.

Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.

A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.

obtuse holly
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Bruv

gray haven
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I was beat to posting my own guide. tizomg

leaden whale
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xD sorry, but hey, it's a good guide

obtuse holly
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340ms ? Bro .... at least i dont want to tryhard when fishing sadcat

gray haven
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340 ms is very lenient tbh. Hardware can have a pretty big effect, though.

leaden whale
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If you react to the right thing, since the average human reaction time is 273 milliseconds, and you can test yours..

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You'll perfect catch somewhat consistently (unless you notice you have a particularly slow reaction time in which case unfortunate)

gray haven
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Focusing on the bobber, the fake bobs require that you tell fake bobs from real bobs... which turns it into a choice reaction, and those are a lot slower.

obtuse holly
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So i wasnt supposed to get gupp all the time

gray haven
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If it's just nothing nothing nothing nothing flash, then it's a simple reaction.

obtuse holly
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Smh

leaden whale
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Good point, actually - I've been testing my reaction to red turning to green, no decisions required

gray haven
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Only reactions faster than simple reactions are reflexes like the startle reflex. tizomg

obtuse holly
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I hate fishing

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Well at least there is 1 achivement

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And it is easy enough to complete

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Also another spoiler question

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||if i jump from 1 to 12 heat will i get every titan blood and diamond 1 to 12 or do i have to play one by one||

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Pfft my every run takes like 20m it will take time

compact tiger
green moth
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how to do

compact tiger
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Please mark for spoiler

green moth
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ok

proud citrus
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SUPER torn here

compact tiger
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Personally, I take the extra dashes and just avoid the damage all together.

proud citrus
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Do I want more i-frames or more effective hp

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Okay, fair, fair

viscid notch
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Quick Recovery isn’t all that great

proud citrus
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Why, is the window really small or something?

viscid notch
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It’s better to not take damage than take a massive hit and recover a small portion of it back sometimes

compact tiger
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30% healed of damage taken, and that's only if you remember to dash after getting hit within the window of effect. Not the best.

sacred sage
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generally the only time i'm taking damage is when i've run out of dashes anyway. and they usually don't recover in time for me to benefit from that boon

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more dashes solves both!

near lodge
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how to get hades with no money

proud citrus
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STILL greatest reflex or should I take quick recovery this time

sweet brook
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More dash

open gust
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is there a way to get a diamond besides the weapons

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I can't get the fishing rod

leaden whale
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500 resources = 1 diamond with standard broker trades, and less if you take advantage of limited time trades

gray haven
obtuse holly
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Epic one is

gray haven
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Still better than any other boon from Lord Hermes except for Hyper Sprint.

obtuse holly
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I once cleared the final boss with only greatest reflex and thunder dash

gray haven
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And better than Hyper Sprint if you only have one dash.

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Rush Delivery on its own is nothing.

sweet brook
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plume

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not if you take it off lmao

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you can totally have rd on its own

gray haven
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It means you can't compare them like that.

gray haven
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Great boon. squirtnya

sweet brook
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yeah

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rd sucks

gray haven
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Sure, but you won't make sense.

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Don't let me stop you though.

lavish vale
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Does anyone want to critique my run?

tidal condor
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Dash strike more

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Get the boons

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Take more midshops

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That good?

proven pivot
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Just win smh

tidal condor
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True

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Best piece of advice

stiff bison
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i am very new to hades and started my first run yesterday

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took me about 3-4 hrs to beat megaera, then i died to the hydra

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lastest run got me all the way to theseus and the minotaur, so i guess i am proud of how quickly i did it

proud citrus
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is hyper sprint even good

proven pivot
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yes

proud citrus
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okay, thanks

lime charm
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I say the third boss area is really a menace, not easy. I won with 1hp remaining...

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the less I say about that one particular sub-boss in the final area the better...

stiff bison
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surprisingly far easier than megaera

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i'm currently stuck at theseus and the minotaur

cursive kindle
lone vine
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deepen your relationship with him and Eurydice with Nectars

stiff bison
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beating megaera with deflect on coronacht's special is some illegal tech

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although now i worry on my run through asphodel

raw latch
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I reached the minotaur

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I cant seem to avoid his charge, it tracks

cobalt bay
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If you can make him slam into a wall or pillar he will stop. But he is good at turning so you usually need to make him turn into the wall (if he charges straight at the wall and then you move to side, he can usually make the turn)

raw latch
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thanks!

green moth
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how to open all hearths

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locked ones

tidal condor
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Usually just keep talking to the npc

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But sometimes there’s other requirements you will have to figure out or look up

green moth
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i do keep talking wwher do icheck for that

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should i just kee pdying at start

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to renew the convos

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cuz i always win

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i rarely die

green moth
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what dies neab summenors vs hades

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what did i t unlock

raw latch
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25th attempt already and im only at Elysium

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Should i use God Mode?

gray haven
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If you want to.

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You'll get stronger from practice and upgrading your mirror and stuff, too, though.

raw latch
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I keep getting these enemies that are such bullet sponges, they are the ones with the skulls next to their hp bar

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They rly annoy me

fallow stone
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is sword run meant to die at Thesius and Minator boss fight?

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no matter how stacked i am Theseus is kinda toxic...

green moth
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ignotreed again

fallow stone
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yeah that's what im not trying to do im trying to play the way i want to no offense

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maybe build was pretty stacked in damage and deflection

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spear would be an easier run

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hmm...

open gust
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Is there any reason to give characters more than one ambrosia?

green moth
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how to do queens plan quest

gray haven
gilded belfry
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i hate thesius

fallow stone
gray haven
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Unlock the other weapons then so you can unlock weapon aspects.

gilded belfry
gray haven
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Weapon variants.

gilded belfry
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dont sounds interesting to me

gray haven
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Yes. Those are called aspects.

gilded belfry
cobalt bay
#

That will take a long time. You might as well at least upgrade aspect of Zagreus since it’s very cheap compared to others and just give passive bonuses

gray haven
#

Err.... I wouldn't recommend that. Aspects can be a pretty big power boost when you unlock one.

cobalt bay
#

And if there is a weapon you don’t really enjoy at all, some aspects may make it more tolerable

gilded belfry
#

or never

gray haven
#

I mean if that's fun for you, don't let anyone stop you.

gilded belfry
weak quarry
#

Is there a way to retrieve titan blood applied on arms ?

gray haven
#

No.

weak quarry
gray haven
#

That would allow to just use all of them freely.

weak quarry
#

Thought of something like the resetting on the mirror

gray haven
#

It works for the mirror because you want all of them for the run. But for weapon aspects, you'd only need to upgrade the aspect you're using for that run.

gilded belfry
#

Why theseus is so annoying

tall urchin
#

how am i so unlucky

tired canopy
#

What are the go to keepsakes for shield

sweet brook
open gust
outer plover
tired canopy
#

Like generic boons that could help the block - charge attack playstyle

sweet brook
#

zag shield, start aphrodite atk, then zeus core/call and go for smair

#

zeus or dio call, if you use dio call make sure to have a zeus core

tired canopy
#

er ... what is smair

sweet brook
#

smoldering air

tired canopy
#

Gotcha

sweet brook
#

your best hammer is gonna be charged shot btw

outer plover
sweet brook
#

poseidon atk sucks

outer plover
#

true

#

its only good for wave clearing

sweet brook
#

has low % and the knockback hurts you more than helps

#

if they're all bunched up, you dont want to break them apart
if anything, it's easier to hit them all at the same time

#

||heat|| is a spoiler here

outer plover
#

oh

sweet brook
#

and as of now, zeus shield

outer plover
#

thank you

untold ravine
#

just beat ||charon|| for the first time feeling good

burnt laurel
#

ENGULFING VORTEX OR CURSE OF VENGEANCE

ebon root
#

Depends what the rest of your build is

rare rune
fallow stone
#

how do you get aspects again?

#

no aspects

gray haven
#

@fallow stone final boss is spoilers here. squirtnya

Unlock all 6 weapons and then do another run. When you come back to the Courtyard, you can unlock weapon aspects.

stiff bison
#

i finally did it :D finished the last boss and everything

gray haven
#

Congratulations! dusa

fallow stone
#

what were the sword aspects again?

gray haven
#

Zagreus
Nemesis
Poseidon
Hidden Sword

#

Nemesis is crits, Poseidon is Cast builds.

ancient bridge
#

What aspect do yall recommend, beat the game 2 times with nemesis and now I wanna try something new which is equally and if more good

gray haven
#

There's an aspect leveling guide in pins.

finite axle
#

I just did Poseidon last night. Very fun. Fast Strike and Heavy Cast Damage

ancient bridge
buoyant oriole
#

👋
Have a question. Dont understand how to unlock Gang Yu aspect of spear. I did all that i had to, but he's still locked. What's the problem?
In guide were said that i need to talk with Achilles, but i have not any dialogues with him about it

gray haven
#

Hidden aspects are spoilers in this channel. Did you look at the guide pinned in #h1-story-discussion?

gilded belfry
#

What is the best way to kill theseus

bright harness
#

in the second phase, focus on dodging the god attacks and then attack in between, that’s what works for me

outer plover
bitter sequoia
#

Isn't weird that I got farther with the Adamant Rail than any other weapon?

sweet brook
#

no

#

rail is good

untold ravine
#

are there any easy beginner op brain dead builds? I cleared with ares shield and chiron bow with aphro-dio but now I don't know what I should choose

bitter sequoia
#

Is it really that good?

untold ravine
#

weapon and build?

#

so should I start out with ares keepsake for the build?

sweet brook
bitter sequoia
#

Hm. Wonder if the build I have rn is good for this run...

untold ravine
#

what aspect for sword

bitter sequoia
#

Twin Fists
Impending Doom
Tidal Dash
Curse of Agony
Draining Cutter
Battle Rage.

#

I just beat Meg, so the build could expand more.

#

Attack

sweet brook
#

attack

#

the only issue here is that if you do get ME tdash isn't gonna be helpful lmao

#

is this dem fists

#

or reg fists

untold ravine
#

ME?

bitter sequoia
#

ME?

sweet brook
#

merciful end

bitter sequoia
#

ah okay.

untold ravine
#

oh

bitter sequoia
#

Oh, I'm also running Old Spiked Collar for the extra health, but if I get past Asphodel, I switch to Lucky Tooth.

#

Like getting a better chance to get a boon from a specific god?

#

Those Keepsakes?

#

But that's all they do tho

#

Oh wait

#

Nvm I get it.

sweet brook
#

15% more likely to be rare but no one cares about that lmao

bitter sequoia
#

Another thing

#

Hyper Sprint or greatest reflex?

sweet brook
#

and what's the rarity on reflex

bitter sequoia
#

Epic Reflex and this is.my first time running into him this run

#

No pun intended ofc

sweet brook
#

so we can either take hyper sprint and rng for rush delivery on the next hermes, or be safe and just take the dashes lol

bitter sequoia
#

Yeah, me and rng aren't good friends so im gonna take reflex

sweet brook
#

you have tdash tho so the extra dashes would help the damage a lot, but if you do manage to get rd it'll give you a global damage boost on everything

#

fair lmao

bitter sequoia
#

I'm cryin rn...

sweet brook
#

spoiler that

bitter sequoia
#

I'm just...

sweet brook
#

but yeah it do be like that

bitter sequoia
#

I'm not even mad.

#

I got far

sweet brook
#

spoiler this bouldy

#

bouldy bruh

tardy prism
#

wasn't here to read anything, just wanted to send messages

rapid gorge
#

Can someone explain to me why Poseidon Dash is so good? I see it suggested a lot and used it a few times but I can't really focus on its affect during battle so I haven't been able to notice why it's so good. I understand that it has a high base damage and people say that it's good on styx but why??

tardy prism
#

especially in styx it slams stuff into walls a lot

viscid notch
rapid gorge
# tardy prism especially in styx it slams stuff into walls a lot

How much damage does that usually do? I have 50~ hours from the game but like the first 40 is from last year on a very laggy computer that just died in Elysium and I'd just survive through lucky dash attacks. I recently started back again and have used 3 main builds to beat the game and they haven't been close combat based. I used Doom + Chaos Shield, Hunting Blades Achilles Spear and Eris Rail Jolted + Chill so I probably didn't utilize it that much

tardy prism
#

idk, i've used it like once

#

it seemed really strong in styx

viscid notch
sweet brook
#

tdash is just the highest damaging dash in the game
and then it's free shoals on every enemy
and then wall slams in styx give you free damage, especially if you get breaking wave. breaking wave makes styx a joke

viscid notch
#

As for actual numbers I have no clue because wall slams are jank as hell but I’ve seen it do like 200-300 repeatedly like 2-3 times on the same enemy

#

In Styx

#

Because they bounce back and fourth

rapid gorge
#

ok cool, thank you

hardy shuttle
#

Plus the higher the ||heat,|| the more painful it is to be up close to stuff. Knocking stuff away if you dash into the wrong spot is a nice failsafe.

untold ravine
#

alright I just beat the game with ME what other op builds are there, perferably with spear, sword, or rail

slate finch
#

sword is just me again

#

and rail get cluster bomb and rocket bomb, artemis on special, and zeus on attack

slate finch
#

yeah but that's not an overpowered build

#

requires quite a bit of skill because it's just normal sword but with more dps

untold ravine
slate finch
#

yes

#

it's the best hammer combination in the game, sends 5 full-power rocket bombs like a shotgun

#

400 base damage

untold ravine
#

what aspect of rail

slate finch
#

eris works best with the build i described

#

but the build i described works with any rail aspect except ||lucifer||

untold ravine
hardy shuttle
sterile plume
#

How do Swift Flourish and Blitz Disc interact? Does the disc move faster or does it hit more often?

tulip escarp
#

Just came across that potential combo and didnt take it lmao

tidal condor
tidal condor
#

This is how swift flourish affects most specials. Only the animation speed of the launch, and for railgun, the reload time

sterile plume
#

Oh, drat. Not nearly as helpful as I was hoping.

hardy shuttle
tired canopy
#

Will Zeus shield aspect become a continuous projectile denial zone if Athena special boon is taken?

#

Also, will it continuously apply on hit effect of Ares/Dio/Zeus's special?

sterile plume
#

Yes and yes.

boreal hedge
#

Any tips for fighting the final boss

#

His first phase is kinda difficult for me when he flings those skulls

#

and the second phase screws me over with the pots

gilded belfry
#

There is a way to make theseus never speak again ?

raw latch
#

Now its at 40% reduced dmg

#

I feel thats just right for me

boreal hedge
#

that kinda makes the game too easy no

raw latch
#

Ehhh

#

I took the 3 revives too

#

To beat the final boss

boreal hedge
#

just hard to keep track of them

#

so i try to destroy them

#

but maybe thats too much commitment?

dusty vault
odd citrus
#

why was hades taken off of game pass

gray haven
bitter sequoia
#

If I grab Nourished Soul, will that increase the healing on Cursed Slash?

sweet brook
#

||nourished soul|| is a spoiler

#

and regarding that i have no clue

#

doubt it tho

gray haven
#

No.

bitter sequoia
#

Damn.

odd citrus
#

if I could change 1 thing about hades I would buff dio in general

leaden whale
#

if I could change one thing it would be better hammer balance, especially on sword

thin heart
#

^ hammers need rebalancing imo tho

#

dio call and cast are extremely good

#

iirc

#

i mean sure there's better but in general it tends to feed itself from my exp so it's pretty much up most of the time without relying on stuff like smair

#

surely there's worse

#

read what

#

you said it's t3

#

whatever that means

#

alright makes more sense

#

my point was that it's not bottom of the barrel anyway

tired lava
#

Hello guys, quick question. Might be spoiler for new players. || Does the extreme measures affect the dialogues of Asterius, in the way that he doesnt reveal the waking phrase for the fists?||

sweet brook
#

||It adds more dialogue to the dialogue pool so it'd be harder to get||

#

So like

#

Yes and no

#

You can still get it but it'd be harder

tired lava
#

Okok ty

untold ravine
#

have divine dash and Im trying to get hunter blades on my achilles
should I switch out divine for hunter dash

viscid notch
#

So no, Divine Dash is nice and safe for melee weps, Hunter Dash doesn't provide much here

#

If you're looking for an offensive dash on Achilles your best bet is Tidal

untold ravine
#

its that or artemis aid

viscid notch
#

Nice

#

Still wouldn't take it

graceful mesa
#

Hey guys I have a question, I'll mark it as spoiler bc I don't know where it stands but || how do you get the aspect of Lucifer on the rail? I've been trying for ages and I can't get it ||

graceful mesa
#

Sweet thanks!

gray haven
strong steppe
#

is the game is like tboi? (has items and different char and things)

sweet brook
#

what's tboi lol

#

oh makes sense

#

from what i heard of isaac, this game is much more friendlier in terms of rng and game play lol

#

1 character, a couple different weapons, not too much bs rng

#

lmao

untold ravine
#

good nemesis build?

strong steppe
#

yes

untold ravine
#

for the wanton ransacking prophecy, does anyone know the enemy that comes right under dire soul catcher and where to find it

green moth
#

propecies doesnt progress

#

do i need to keep dying

#

to make them wwork

#

i do follow it

#

any

#

it doesnt matter

#

aspect

#

or whatevr

#

even hearths

#

lyre playing

#

none of them

#

progress

#

i cant progress with any of them

#

for example for posedion fish one i have collected 50 fished even tho it askes 25

#

idk if im unlucky

#

or why i cant unlock hearths with cerberus

#

i keep petting and talking to it

somber frigate
somber frigate
somber frigate
somber frigate
nova heron
#

I got the game yesterday and I keep seeing aspects mentioned, what are they and how do I level them(?) I'm so confused

viscid notch
nova heron
#

ooo okay I have all the base weapons ty for telling me :))

untold ravine
#

It's the last one I need

somber frigate
#

It’s not like you have much choice in the matter for which styx miniboss you run into anyways

untold ravine
#

Damn

somber frigate
fallow stone
#

my runs after my first clear have been so bad

#

hammer with fist not even giving me explosives uppercuts anymore

#

im sad

somber frigate
fallow stone
#

that's pretty bad rng then shield no longer gives me multi bounce hammer

#

fist don't give exlposive uppercuts

#

kinda sadge

gilded belfry
#

What Ambrosia do ?

gray haven
#

Same as Nectar but at high affinity.

gilded belfry
gray haven
#

Sure.

strong steppe
#

what each exit stands for? Just startedp laying

#

is there ending to runs?

viscid notch
#

Yes

gilded belfry
#

hades is hard

boreal hedge
#

Alright

#

Just beat the final boss for the first time

#

The death scene was hella good

sweet brook
#

gaming

boreal hedge
#

Aside from the ||titan blood|| and the ||pact of punishment||

#

Is there anything else i get after completing a run

pastel plank
#

I know you can get ||call plushies || from meg and dusa and stuff but idrk how you get them-

#

Just a tad confused

pastel plank
tardy mesa
#

I just got to the final boss, with a pretty nutty aegis build, its my first time here lets hope i win lol

#

Rip i died to phase 3

boreal hedge
#

Ive seen max heat runs with the second shield aspect

#

Zeus i think

#

Is it that good?

hushed cape
#

Chaos

boreal hedge
#

Rlly

tardy mesa
#

Yea i used chaos that run

boreal hedge
#

I usually max heat with a shield that acts like ares rift

tardy mesa
#

I think the shield is my fav weapon

hushed cape
#

Oh that one is Zeus

boreal hedge
#

I like the spear

hushed cape
#

Based

tardy mesa
#

Spear is also good

boreal hedge
#

Especially when j get extra range

#

Outpoke the final boss

tardy mesa
#

Coronacht is also great

boreal hedge
#

I just dislike how u cant spam the attack button

#

U have to hold it

#

Also i didnt know poseidons aid forced u to move

#

It got me killed just now

tardy mesa
#

His call?

boreal hedge
#

Ye

tardy mesa
#

Dang

boreal hedge
#

I was using it to run from the lasers

#

But it moved me past rhe pillar

#

A few times

tardy mesa
#

Feels bad man

boreal hedge
#

Ye

#

Sadge

#

Whats a good call anyway

hushed cape
#

Artemis

boreal hedge
#

Ive only found consistent use with athena and artemis

hushed cape
#

Ares

tardy mesa
#

Artemis has a solid one

boreal hedge
#

I hate ares one

#

Its like poseidon minus movement

hushed cape
#

Aphrodite

boreal hedge
#

Aphrodite is not good for bosses tho

hushed cape
#

It doe’s good damage at max charge

boreal hedge
#

I usually use the calls for that sweet i frames

#

So i rarely use it at max

somber frigate
#

And you don’t full charge them you just use the minor calls

untold ravine
#

i've beat the game with every weapon with every op non hidden aspect, and I have around 20 titan blood, what aspect should I get?

somber frigate
#

Whichever ones sound interesting

untold ravine
#

I dont know which one to start with

sweet brook
#

hestia

untold ravine
#

thats fists right

#

unless im being dumb

somber frigate
#

Rail

untold ravine
#

ok

#

ty

somber frigate
#

going by weapon, do you have
Nemesis
Achilles
Zag shield or Zeus
Zag bow or hera
Demeter
Eris or hestia

tight sundial
#

also athena’s call is good if you have a bull that deals lots of damage, can just run it beat whatever up, and leave

untold ravine
limpid drift
#

I am really stuck at 3rd boss now, any tips and weapon to use? I am using Fists. Reached them 4 times and 2 times killed the Minotaur as I figured out he does most damage but he is easy to go down.

#

Any tips would be helpful

untold ravine
#

gets u used to the mechanics of dogdging the attacks while keeping u safe if u need it

limpid drift
#

Okay, thanks will use it and learn their moves

untold ravine
#

use doom (ares) on the special

limpid drift
#

Yes I use his keepsake for doom boon

somber frigate
limpid drift
#

And i have noticed Posiedon's dash water splash think doesn't work on them

somber frigate
#

Tidal dash works on everything

somber frigate
#

Put something that makes sense with the rest of your build on special

limpid drift
#

No I meant it works but not very effective against them

tight sundial
limpid drift
somber frigate
#

Tidal dash is plenty effective against them for damage

tight sundial
#

tidal dash supremacy

somber frigate
#

Yeah it doesn’t knock them back as much but that’s just bosses and knockback in general

tight sundial
#

can also get the boon that ups knock away damage against bosses

untold ravine
limpid drift
untold ravine
limpid drift
somber frigate
tight sundial
somber frigate
#

I mean I told you the ones i recommended picking up

untold ravine
tardy mesa
#

Elysium boss is tough

tight sundial
untold ravine
#

you'll find out

tardy mesa
#

Nah ive made it to final boss once

#

With aegis

untold ravine
#

did u get to ||his second phase||

limpid drift
#

Ok time to sleep, it's 4 am here, time to close PC now 🥱

tardy mesa
#

I got to ||phase 3 i think||

tight sundial
untold ravine
gilded belfry
#

Why theseus is so goddamm annoying

tight sundial
#

i actually hate || styx || the poison is awful

untold ravine
untold ravine
#

do different aspects give you more titan blood if u run the same ||heat||

gray haven
#

||Heat|| is spoilers, and no, they don't.

gilded belfry
tardy mesa
#

How do you know

viscid notch
tardy mesa
#

Ah

#

Seemed like more

gilded belfry
#

idc about spoiler

#

||like boss cells in dead cells ?||

#

||it makes the game more difficult after you finish it|| marking as a spoiler bc why not

viscid notch
untold ravine
untold ravine
green moth
#

Is it better to just keep dying at the beginning so the game progress with chatting or keep finish it

#

I finish it pretty easily but it takes a long time

#

I even got all 3 || statues||

#

|| how to get the epilogue achievement || ping me

untold ravine
#

how do I reroll for boons I want

#

tryna get poseidon attack but I keep getting the same stuff

sweet brook
#

Last green mirror upgrade, fated persuasion

#

Also pos atk kinda sucks

untold ravine
#

it's for hestia rail

untold ravine
sweet brook
sweet brook
untold ravine
#

whats a good build then

untold ravine
sweet brook
#

For hestia just take any % atk that isn't pos or arty

sweet brook
untold ravine
sweet brook
sweet brook
#

Like Athena or Aphrodite

#

Poseidon just sucks

#

Arty is either too little damage or too much damage

untold ravine
#

too much? how is that bad at all

untold ravine
#

whats a good build with athena

sweet brook
#

15% of the time you'll overkill an enemy

#

Every other time it'll take like 4 shots to kill them

#

And you might crit a 1 hp target

#

With Aphrodite or Athena you'll be more consistent with 1 or 2 shots to kill

untold ravine
#

ok

#

whats a good build with athena attacl

#

attack

sweet brook
#

Tidal dash

#

Any % based special, Poseidon is decent but not preferred

untold ravine
#

so what keepsake to equip first

#

poseidon I assume?

#

for the dash

sweet brook
#

Yeah

#

Hammers you want clockets

#

Piercing or explosive shot works too

#

Ricochet also not bad

#

But clockets is best

untold ravine
#

is ares ok for attack or special

sweet brook
#

No

untold ravine
#

explosive fire, cluster bomb, or rocket bomb

somber frigate
#

imo
Rocket or cluster
Cluster gives better chance of finding rocket later
Rocket gives better dps now

untold ravine
#

bruh I chose explosive because of hestia 😕

#

I thought I would mainly be using attack

gray haven
#

Please don't ever take Explosive Fire over Rocket Bomb or Cluster Bomb. tizomg

somber frigate
gray haven
#

No. You'd take Rocket Bomb.

#

I mean that rocket is your crowd control lol.

#

Explosive Fire is cope pick tbh.

untold ravine
#

I like rocket bomb it's very fun

pastel plank
#

I just saw this, thank you!

sweet brook
#

Start tdash on hestia

#

Crowd control problem solved

tardy mesa
#

Which ||aspect is better for varatha? Zag, Achillies, or Hades?||

gray haven
#

Check pins for my aspect leveling guide.

vagrant fractal
#

hey what do I get if I beat ||Charon||

sweet brook
#

||20% off all shop purchases and the 300 gold you stole||

#

||includes wells iirc||

vagrant fractal
#

Cool!

#

I keep getting my ass kicked by him

sweet brook
#

based

clever dune
#

im currently in god mode if i turn it off and then on again do i loose all of the damage decrease i accumulated?

faint umbra
#

nope

clever dune
#

so its all safe ig

spice arrow
#

is hera good with hunting blades?

tight sundial
#

haven’t tried it before but i don’t see why not! my personal favorite hera builds are dionysus cast with the zeus duo boon, you deal mad damage. also artemis cast with posedion duo boon is great!

leaden whale
#

How does this stupid bow work

#

like

tight sundial
#

which one? the hera bow?

leaden whale
#

realese left mousse button while flash whatever

#

i cant send pictures so urgh

clever dune
leaden whale
#

yeah

#

i had like no clue

#

i should have just brought the spear with me

#

this bow sucks lol

clever dune
#

lemme

leaden whale
#

i bought da spear and the bow, idk why i bought da more cheaper one with me

leaden whale
#

like i said

#

i pulled it off already

#

its hard tho

#

i had bad reflexes

clever dune
#

youll get used to it eventually

#

i can consistently do it with muscle memory ig

#

idk im still new anw

#

tho out of all the 65 runs ive did in this game, about 30 is prob with the bow KEKW

leaden whale
#

the bow, grew on me lol

#

i just spam volley of arrows 😂

viscid notch
#

Crush Shot is your ideal option

spice arrow
#

cool, thx

green moth
#

I have finished the game maybe over 10 times got only 1 cant give them gifts im. Maxed with all

cobalt bay
#

I thought the bow was terrible when I first started but now it's the easiest weapon by far for me

raw vessel
#

whats better death or stubborn defiance

leaden whale
#

theres a gun in hades zagshock

#

officially my fav holy

tight sundial
raw vessel
cobalt bay
#

oh I've played plenty but I still like bow more than gun

leaden whale
#

can i mix them pls > lol

#

da gun special attack is boring for meh ngl

#

doesnt even hit alot of enemies for the most part

raw vessel
#

i finnaly beat hades which heat conditions are the best choice???

cobalt bay
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you need to spoiler that. anyway,|| tight deadline 1 is usually the first, it is very rare to go over that time even if you arent speed running. tight deadline 2 is not bad either if you like to go fast, it isn't hard but you still have to keep it in mind and you might have a bad time if it takes you long time to find satyr sack. extreme measures 1 isn't bad. tightened security is easy unless you are bad with traps. I personally think underworld customs is an easy 2 heat but I think I purge boons more aggressively than most players anyway. ||

boreal hedge
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Is rechargable cast or multiple casts better

plucky urchin
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depends on the build

alpine ridge
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Depends on the Cast

plucky urchin
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i prefer infernal soul tho

boreal hedge
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Which is that

plucky urchin
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multiple

alpine ridge
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The multiple casts

boreal hedge
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Oh

plucky urchin
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try both and see which one u like, and check builds to see which ones they use

boreal hedge
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I usually go for infernal for aggressive close ranged combat

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And stygian for long ranged

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I can keep distance

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But im not sure which is more efficient

alpine ridge
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Basically comes down to this, if you can pick up the stones immediately after using a cast, then Infernal is probably going to be faster

boreal hedge
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Ye but its not like ill know what kind of cast ill have in the end

alpine ridge
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If the cast has an effect that lets it stay on the battlefield for a while, like Trippy Shot or Dem cast, then Stygian is probably faster once you get more atones from Chaos

boreal hedge
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Unless i actively turn down casts for the one i want

alpine ridge
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That is what most people do

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Have you started gifting the gods nectar yet?

boreal hedge
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Ye

alpine ridge
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Ok so, what most people do when doing a Cast build is use the keepsake of the god they want to get in Tartarus so that they have a really good chance of getting their preferred Cast early

boreal hedge
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I saw that level 11 poseidon cast

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First time i used it

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I got ares the first time and never again

alpine ridge
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Try getting the Ares cast and Artemis attack/special/Call, you might change your mind there

strong steppe
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how can I see the progress i've made? and the floors i've got to

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its not like the binding of isaac

strong steppe
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idk what anything means

west current
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Noob here.....Any tips? I think I need to slow down and not dash so often. 😄

slate finch
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you should dash more often

buoyant jay
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what specific things do you need help with

slate finch
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you're invincible when you dash, but when you dash-strike, you lose your invincibility

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and you should pretty much always be dash-striking they're a lot better than standing strikes

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by "pretty much always" i mean like 80%

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unlock the second dash and death defiance asap

west current
slate finch
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second dash is 100% better

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you need the movement

west current
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its just whenever i boss battle the 2 heros i tunnel vision with all the GFX on the screen

plucky urchin
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practise. die. practise. repeat

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is it practice?

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wait i might not be able to english

somber frigate
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practice

plucky urchin
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yea thought so my bad

grave pike
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do i need to give the olympians ||Ambrosia after the favor for the Epilogue||?

somber frigate
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lemme double check real quick though

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yeah 6 of the 9

grave pike
slate finch
gilded belfry
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i can unlock one aspect to each weapon now, i unlock it ?

west current
plucky urchin
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someone should have a chart on best aspects to upgrade in pins

slate finch
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if only

somber frigate
west current
somber frigate
west current
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Thats a shame....I already put like 4 titans into zags attack speed sword for the life steal

gray haven
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Cursed Slash is far from optimal way of playing sword, but Zag Sword is good for it.

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And it's like... I've seen Cursed Slash carry a lot of new players to their first (sword) wins. But the better you get with sword, the worse you'll probably think of Cursed Slash.

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If that makes sense.

green moth
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whats the fastest way to unlock locked hearths

junior crest
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i just started the game and both items seem to be good for progress but should i be prioritizing darkness or the chthonic keys?

green moth
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imo keys first

junior crest
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okok

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thank u!

gray haven
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At the very very start, keys. But it depends. Like... if you don't have enough Darkness yet to upgrade the next mirror talents anyway, then getting keys to unlock them isn't gonna do anything for you.

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Long-term, you'll run out of use for Keys long before any other resource. So focusing more on Darkness isn't a bad idea.

wooden cipher
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Yeah, but they said they just started, so I think its better for they to get keys, if only to buy the weapons thanthink

raw coral
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Keys are needed for wep unlocks too, so they are bis on a fresh save

junior crest
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oh

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wait

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should i be using keys for the mirror or weapons??

raw coral
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Well a bit of both imo
Mirror as long as you have the darkness for it, and then weps

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It doesn't make sense to unlock more of the mirror if you don't have the darkness for it yet

wooden cipher
gray haven
raw coral
wooden cipher
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Oh, I see, ty

somber frigate
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check the wiki for specific npc favours

green moth
wooden cipher
green moth
wooden cipher
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Just read the favor section of a character

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I have no idea how that can be confusing

somber frigate
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👍

late thistle
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do you think that you can win the game without a specific build and just winging it?

somber frigate
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Yes