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guys i am just wrecking ||hades|| with that build
.
mostly athena gauge savess me a lot
i see ||hades spin attack indicator|| i just activate gauge and keep attacking
lmao
hey how do i know if meg has asked me for a favour? i cant remmeber
i ||finally beaten hades||
same just now
Why people think its weird that i play the game skiping the dialogs ?
because half of hades is a visual novel
you're missing out on a solid 1/3rd of the game, which intertwines with the gameplay in very important ways
I can read the dialogs and skip them at the same time
I could see skipping dialogue if you’ve beat the game more than once but there’s so many dialogue options that it would just be weird skipping them
there's voice acting that's really good
like watching a movie on mute because you can read the subtitles
I dont speak english very well to understand it
so it's like watching anime on mute because you can read the subtitles
if you have hades set to a different language it's ok to skip dialogue after reading it
hey how do i know if meg has asked me for a favour?
there'll be a little lock on the codex, just keep playing and talking
okay thanks
the favors are usually gotten just by playing the game more
And i play games for gameplay its rare to me to read the dialogs
yeah because i gave her nectar and i can no longer give anymoe
just talk to her so i dont know if i can do the favour or not
Unlock all the base weapons
urgent question
well not crazy urgent but if i was in the temple and i got the diamond for 1000 will it next be blood for 1250?
No
is it random?
Yes
ok ty
Its only me that expected Dionysus to be a fat weird dude ?
he's the god of parties plus he can shapeshift
but he was like that in percy jackson iirc so you're probably not the only one
Do a run
What’s there to understand
Just do an attempt
When you come back to the courtyard it’ll be refreshed
I think you also need to have certain conversations? Like if you just haven’t been talking to Achilles each time you go back then it may be a bottleneck? Idk
no, aspects just need every weapon unlocked
and then skelly says something about it or something
Jsut a question but is stubborn defiance + skelly tooth good? Or is 3 death defiance better
For like
final boss
3 death defiances
for bosses, death defiances are always better
if you find yourself dying in like every room but dont struggle as much on bosses, stubborn defiance is better
on the other hand, touch of styx dark from Patroclus is incredibly strong and can be stronger than DD
at that point it'd depend on how many DDs you typically have left when you get to the final fight
Thx!
I like having stubborn defiance a lot because im always paranoid😭😭
But ill take the asvice! Tyy
if you only die to bosses, it's worth considering switching to DD imo
but to each their own
Okay! I usually beat all of them but die to ||hades||
Kinda annoying but ive gotten 2 completed ascape runs so far!
does anyone wanna vc while i play?
Sounds fun! I prolly wont talk much but seems nice
You can only get 1 Stubborn Defiance but it heals for less and refreshes every room. However, you can get up to 3 Death Defiances, they heal more but they don't refresh like SD does, you can replenish them in multiple ways tho. Most beginners tend to die multiple times to bosses early on, so using SD isn't that great since it leaves you with a much smaller HP pool. For now stick to Death Defiances. Later on another use for SD will pop up.
Awesome thanks
i havnt beat the final boss yet, but i have both baowulf and author. Which should i use of these two?
hidden aspects names are spoiler here btw (also dont post the same question in 3 channels lol)
hidden sword is easy to use but either of them is fine, just test them and have fun
oh sorry
oke
for the harpy feather duster, urns are the small vases found around each room right?
do one affected by the keepsake have a special look or should I just break all of them
just break them all
It's also a max of 1 per room
The % chance in the description doesn't mean anything lol
wait fr
That sounds odd
No one uses it enough to actually dispute it I guess lmao

how do you get the lyre for the music fate thing? because the option to have the work guy make it isnt there
It’s an option for the bedroom I believe
You might need other bedroom items first idk
Or a certain number of cosmetic purchases
they're in the lower half of weapons, but just because they're not as good doesn't mean you can't clear with them
does charon lower his prices if you give him enough nectar
no

? I don't think I said anything bad there but okay. I was saying what's the point of doing that if you don't get bigger value from it
relationship bonds
Oh, his is one of the ones necessary for the ||reunion epilogue||?
Steam achievement?
Mythos-wise, doesn't tartarus being the easiest to escape make no sense
Like, isn't it that tartarus is the prison, and then asphodel is hell, and then elysium is Hell Lite\™
would you rather have the game start off as hard as possible and then easier lmao
Would be an interesting roguelike.
But they could have made the concept ||breaking into hell to save persephone|| instead of ||breaking out of hell to bring persephone to hell||
Then the zones would have made more sense if it went like that
It just made me think of it because Hades had a line that said "Is tartarus some kind of joke to you" when getting to the fountain room after meg
which my only response in my head was "is it a joke to YOU, Hades, this is supposed to be Soul Prison Max Security." if we're going on greek myth anyway
no part of the greek underworld is hell. tartarus is the deepest level and it is where the titans end up imprisoned, but eg. sisyphus and whathisname on the wheel of flame and tantalus are just like, vibing in the regular areas of the underworld in "canon" and their punishments are by far the most gruesome. elysium is the place where heroes go; the isles of the blest are for people who're ~extra special~. so like... it doesn't make any less sense the way they've done it, particularly
but most of the underworld is (per mythology) an undifferentiated plain
Don't know who weel of flame and tantalus guy are?
But I know sisyphus
I guess I'm not as good at greek myth
Okay, tanks for letting me know
cannot remember the dude's name but there's a guy strapped to a wheel of fire, and tantalus was a mortal king who iirc fed his kids to the gods so he's cursed to sit by a river and a tree with fruit but any time he tries to eat or drink they move away. so like... grim stuff lol
but those punishments are reserved for people who commit like, REALLY awful crimes; otherwise the underworld isnt rly like "hell"
that sounds right
admittedly not my direct wheelhouse
anyway. sucks to be that dude lmao
i have two and a half degrees in classics i just work on epic 😂 ask me any question about achilles you like but i cannot describe tantalus
you get to become his friend :)
Trying to do a explosive shot build with Zag bow, which god keepsake should I start with?
Artemis dash is about dash strike right? I can't seem to get the dash strike timing right for bow's charged attack
learn it, practice on skelly
always be dash-striking and always be getting the power shot, that's very important for zag bow
hmm, I'll try
well if you're gonna practice dash striking and going for explosive shot on zag bow
that's not gonna help lmao
explosive shot makes it charge longer
but also either aphrodite or artemis atk
aphrodite for consistency, arty for more crits
Dash > hold Attack > let go during the flash for Power Shot
Try to find a rhythm for it.
But if you're doing Explosive Shot, you're most of the time better off doing a quick-release from point-blank instead of charging it.
What's the most effective way to use Olympian keepsakes? I felt that it wasn't as strong as the other keepsakes
olympian keepsakes are what control what build you get lol
typically used at the start of tartarus and asphodel
they're objectively strongest there, since that's when you're gonna meet your first gods that will stay with you for the rest of the run
it do be like that
Ye it do be
Wanted to ask about the theseus boss fight
Is there a gimmick where if one of them dies the other gets empowered or anything
no
So its just the half health thing
yeah
Would it be easier if i prioritize thesus first or the bull
general rule of thumb is to kill the bull first
stay near walls/pillars so bull charges into them
Oh ok
keep a pillar between you and theseus so the spear throws dont hit you, otherwise be mindful of when the spear is thrown
target bull first because you dont want to deal with the god call, theseus, and bull at the same time
Ive been prioritizing theseus first cuz i find it easy to dodge the bulls attack
But when im too focused on the bull i get hit with the spear
Ok noted
Yes, they become enraged when the other dies, which reduces the delay between their attacks. Asterius will also become enraged when he enters phase 2 (i.e., when his HP is reduced to 50%).
theseus's phase two is MUCH more annoying than asterius's so i always focus asterius down first and basically just ignore theseus lmao. sucks to suck for him
What are considered upper/lower half of weapons?
sword, spear, fists are lower half
bow, rail, shield are upper half
there's no specific order of those halves tho
but those are split accurately as far as im aware
helloo, does auto assist not work on the rail’s special for anyone else? like one time it randomly auto locked onto enemies for a minute or something (I forgot what triggered that) but then it went back to only hitting where the mouse is aimed at
Does anyone know what the most popular/well liked weapon is? Just curious
is there any way to ensure it auto locks onto enemies and not on the mouse bc that is so annoying to me
to my knowledge, i dont think so but imo it's better if it's locked onto the mouse because you want to turn off "aim at cursor" for the main atk anyways
eris, hera, hestia, and hidden shield in the speedrunning community lmao
for casual players, i think it's like mostly fists
and chiron probably
Interesting
yeah, that’s already turned off
but the special still always locks onto the mouse for some reason
Is the hangover spread boon good or bad
is it just like, one stack of hangover every four seconds
so say your atk inflicts 8 hangover per second, peer pressure does 4 per second, it's gonna do 4 per second no matter what basicaly
only have 1 source of hangover ever
Does that mean all five stacks of hangover on one target must come from the same source
pretty much yeah, because otherwise it might be doing less damage
if it doesn't come from the same source, then whichever they got hit with last is gonna be used, and you'd much rather it be 8 per sec instead of 4 per sec
peer pressure is always gonna be lower than your main source of hangover anyways
probably
Ouch
So if I get 5 stacks of main hangover (8), then the target gets hit with peer pressure (4), hangover will only do 20 damage per 0.5 sec?
I have 17 titan's blood and none of the hidden aspects. What are some good aspects I should dump into?
i toggled God Mode back when i first got the game to see what it was and then turned it off, now it always says i have it on in my save slot, this doesn’t make me unable to get certain achievements and stuff right
God Mode does not disable achievements or trophy collection in the game. It's there to give players the option of enjoying the game and story with an easier challenge and has no penalty whatsoever.
I guess the only restriction I can think of, which is not a restriction imposed by god mode but rather on it, is that you can't turn on godmode on a hell mode save, but that's to be expected.
That said, I can't think of an achievement or anything that requires hell mode. Is there anything like that? Well, if there was, you'd need a new save anyway, so for your current playthrough there's no concern
No achievement that requires hell mode, no.
Check pins. 
whats the best aspect to invest in for the spear of varatha if i mostly use the special
aspect of zag or aspect of achilles?
achillies
Yeah
when you put alot of blood on zag aspect, you can do either
oo ok
also if I give up mid run will i get to keep the stuff I got through the run?
No
another thing maybe a dumb qs but how exactly do I get blood through runs, do u have to use a different weapon each time
You get it the first time you defeat fury with each weapon, occasionally can buy it in Styx ship, and ||for beating final boss with each weapon. Finally after beating final boss, you get bounties which again award you for defeating fury and final boss. Each time they are claimed, you have to play at higher heat to claim them again.||
And you can get them from trader in the lounge
Yo guys
I need help finding this plant women name
That sings in the first level of hell
Eurydice
It’s rng
She’s in second level (asphodel) not first. If you see the “!” chamber reward in asphodel, it will be Eurydice (in Tartarus the same symbol will be Sisyphus)
I just fought the final boss for the first time
I was wondering why he didnt have a phase two when he is half health
now i know why
i just got the fishing rod but i don’t know where to use it
Zag will often comment on a fishing spot if he moves near one (only the first time per spot)
There will also be a chiming sound at the end of combat or upon entering a non-combat room if there is a fishing spot present
does ||hades|| have an deflectable attacks?
yes
||the skull thingies he shoots at you to inflict boiling blood, those can be deflected||
so should i change|| chill attack ||to deflect attack
but i think technically every atk can be deflected in the game? not sure tho
depends
||the chill is nice to help you react||
if i remember right he has many|| melee atatcks ||so im not sure
all melee attacks can technically be deflected iirc lmao
I believe there are exactly 3 attacks in the game that cannot
what is iirc
if i remember correctly
so i can reflect almost everything?
is there a way to see which bosses I've killed with which weapon?
||Anything but the spin attack and the shockwaves from the skulls and when he phases|| can be deflected.
how to unlock all the hearth with everyone
do i just need to keep dying to get it progress
Okay, seriously, how do I unlock ||Guan-Yu||? I've had 5 aspects unlocked for a while and have done 10 million interactions with Achilles and Patroclus, and have killed ||Hades|| 17 times now
Do I really just need to keep doing runs? Do I need to give someone more nectar?
Zag Aspects don't count for that.
let me confirm
Yep, 5 non-zagspects
sigh
Okay
I'm on a winstreak of 10 right now though, as soon as I die once I'll do that
(ik winstreaks dont matter but psychology)
If it makes you feel any better, the hidden spear is pretty garbage until Lv.4 or Lv.5 anyway, so that'll cost you like 12-15 Titan Blood. Might as well use the time to get those. 
Is ||Guan-Yu|| better than Achilles spear btw, in terms of general community regards? It seems like its controversial
Thankfully I'm super conservative with what I spend on for this exact reason, I've been saving for hidden aspects
I have 13 titan's blood just sitting
idc about speed so this sounds ideal
Yes and I adore it
Ideal
Achilles is definitely better for ||high heat||. Cast builds go brrr. 
TBH I freaking hate what achilles does to my controls
I know it's a skissue, but :(
But you'd at least say they're very comparable in quality for casual play?
Like, both S-tier?
Guys i have a question i have been fishing non stop but there are still 7 undiscovered fishies what im doing wrong
I mean S-tier for spear.
The heck do you reccommend on spear then
The darkness and resource buff is on the SPEAR, mister (or ma'am)
I suppose so. Achilles is somewhat more universally liked, while hidden spear is more love it or hate it. Not everyone enjoys a glass cannon playstyle.
Therefore you will tell me what the best SPEAR aspect is xD you can't tell me the 2 best spear aspects are C-tier for spear
Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.
Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.
A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.
Bruv
I was beat to posting my own guide. 
xD sorry, but hey, it's a good guide
340ms ? Bro .... at least i dont want to tryhard when fishing 
I thought this too until I tried a reaction time test https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime
340 ms is very lenient tbh. Hardware can have a pretty big effect, though.
If you react to the right thing, since the average human reaction time is 273 milliseconds, and you can test yours..
You'll perfect catch somewhat consistently (unless you notice you have a particularly slow reaction time in which case unfortunate)
Focusing on the bobber, the fake bobs require that you tell fake bobs from real bobs... which turns it into a choice reaction, and those are a lot slower.
So i wasnt supposed to get gupp all the time
If it's just nothing nothing nothing nothing flash, then it's a simple reaction.
Smh
Good point, actually - I've been testing my reaction to red turning to green, no decisions required
Only reactions faster than simple reactions are reflexes like the startle reflex. 
I hate fishing
Well at least there is 1 achivement
And it is easy enough to complete
Also another spoiler question
||if i jump from 1 to 12 heat will i get every titan blood and diamond 1 to 12 or do i have to play one by one||

Pfft my every run takes like 20m it will take time
It is the journey, not the destination. It allows you to try out new builds and test yourself.
how to do
Please mark for spoiler
ok
Personally, I take the extra dashes and just avoid the damage all together.
Quick Recovery isn’t all that great
Why, is the window really small or something?
It’s better to not take damage than take a massive hit and recover a small portion of it back sometimes
30% healed of damage taken, and that's only if you remember to dash after getting hit within the window of effect. Not the best.
generally the only time i'm taking damage is when i've run out of dashes anyway. and they usually don't recover in time for me to benefit from that boon
more dashes solves both!
how to get hades with no money
More dash
Can buy one at charon shop in Styx for 1000 coins (has a 50% chance to instead be a Titan Blood for 1200 coins at the same spot). Can also trade for them at the Wretched Broker
500 resources = 1 diamond with standard broker trades, and less if you take advantage of limited time trades
One of them is a contender for best boon in the game. The other is Quick Recovery. 
Epic one is
Still better than any other boon from Lord Hermes except for Hyper Sprint.
I once cleared the final boss with only greatest reflex and thunder dash
And better than Hyper Sprint if you only have one dash.
Rush Delivery on its own is nothing.
It means you can't compare them like that.
Yes. And it'll do nothing.
Great boon. 
Does anyone want to critique my run?
Just win smh
i am very new to hades and started my first run yesterday
took me about 3-4 hrs to beat megaera, then i died to the hydra
lastest run got me all the way to theseus and the minotaur, so i guess i am proud of how quickly i did it
is hyper sprint even good
yes
okay, thanks
I say the third boss area is really a menace, not easy. I won with 1hp remaining...
the less I say about that one particular sub-boss in the final area the better...
So u beat the hydra too?
yes :)
surprisingly far easier than megaera
i'm currently stuck at theseus and the minotaur
Third boss area is quite a wall
deepen your relationship with him and Eurydice with Nectars
beating megaera with deflect on coronacht's special is some illegal tech
although now i worry on my run through asphodel
If you can make him slam into a wall or pillar he will stop. But he is good at turning so you usually need to make him turn into the wall (if he charges straight at the wall and then you move to side, he can usually make the turn)
thanks!
Usually just keep talking to the npc
But sometimes there’s other requirements you will have to figure out or look up
i do keep talking wwher do icheck for that
should i just kee pdying at start
to renew the convos
cuz i always win
i rarely die
If you want to.
You'll get stronger from practice and upgrading your mirror and stuff, too, though.
I keep getting these enemies that are such bullet sponges, they are the ones with the skulls next to their hp bar
They rly annoy me
is sword run meant to die at Thesius and Minator boss fight?
no matter how stacked i am Theseus is kinda toxic...
ignotreed again
yeah that's what im not trying to do im trying to play the way i want to no offense
maybe build was pretty stacked in damage and deflection
spear would be an easier run
hmm...
Is there any reason to give characters more than one ambrosia?
how to do queens plan quest
What sword aspect are you using, and what's your mirror now?
i hate thesius
none i haven't gotten it yet
Unlock the other weapons then so you can unlock weapon aspects.
what is a aspect ?
Weapon variants.
that thing variants you unlock with titans blood ?
dont sounds interesting to me
Yes. Those are called aspects.
i will wait until i have enough titans blood to unlock everything at once
That will take a long time. You might as well at least upgrade aspect of Zagreus since it’s very cheap compared to others and just give passive bonuses
Err.... I wouldn't recommend that. Aspects can be a pretty big power boost when you unlock one.
And if there is a weapon you don’t really enjoy at all, some aspects may make it more tolerable
so i think i will not unlock it until i finish a run
or never
I mean if that's fun for you, don't let anyone stop you.
i am trying to at least kill asterius and the other guy
Is there a way to retrieve titan blood applied on arms ?
No.

That would allow to just use all of them freely.
Thought of something like the resetting on the mirror
It works for the mirror because you want all of them for the run. But for weapon aspects, you'd only need to upgrade the aspect you're using for that run.
Why theseus is so annoying
What are the go to keepsakes for shield
which shield
is there anyone specifically you recommend giving it to?
in my playthrough i just gave them out like im oprah
Not really specific, maybe just Zag shield?
Like generic boons that could help the block - charge attack playstyle
zag shield, start aphrodite atk, then zeus core/call and go for smair
zeus or dio call, if you use dio call make sure to have a zeus core
er ... what is smair
smoldering air
Gotcha
your best hammer is gonna be charged shot btw
you could also go poseidon attack charged shot
poseidon atk sucks
has low % and the knockback hurts you more than helps
if they're all bunched up, you dont want to break them apart
if anything, it's easier to hit them all at the same time
||heat|| is a spoiler here
oh
and as of now, zeus shield
thank you
just beat ||charon|| for the first time feeling good
ENGULFING VORTEX OR CURSE OF VENGEANCE
Depends what the rest of your build is
I can’t be trusted holding nectar or ambrosia. The next char is meet is gettin lucky
@fallow stone final boss is spoilers here. 
Unlock all 6 weapons and then do another run. When you come back to the Courtyard, you can unlock weapon aspects.
my bad
i finally did it :D finished the last boss and everything
Congratulations! 
what were the sword aspects again?
What aspect do yall recommend, beat the game 2 times with nemesis and now I wanna try something new which is equally and if more good
There's an aspect leveling guide in pins.
I just did Poseidon last night. Very fun. Fast Strike and Heavy Cast Damage
Thanks
👋
Have a question. Dont understand how to unlock Gang Yu aspect of spear. I did all that i had to, but he's still locked. What's the problem?
In guide were said that i need to talk with Achilles, but i have not any dialogues with him about it
Hidden aspects are spoilers in this channel. Did you look at the guide pinned in #h1-story-discussion?
Not yet. Thanks
What is the best way to kill theseus
in the second phase, focus on dodging the god attacks and then attack in between, that’s what works for me
hit him from the back
Isn't weird that I got farther with the Adamant Rail than any other weapon?
are there any easy beginner op brain dead builds? I cleared with ares shield and chiron bow with aphro-dio but now I don't know what I should choose
Is it really that good?
yeah if you build it right
Hm. Wonder if the build I have rn is good for this run...
what aspect for sword
Twin Fists
Impending Doom
Tidal Dash
Curse of Agony
Draining Cutter
Battle Rage.
I just beat Meg, so the build could expand more.
Attack
attack
the only issue here is that if you do get ME tdash isn't gonna be helpful lmao
is this dem fists
or reg fists
ME?
ME?
merciful end
ah okay.
oh
Oh, I'm also running Old Spiked Collar for the extra health, but if I get past Asphodel, I switch to Lucky Tooth.
Like getting a better chance to get a boon from a specific god?
Those Keepsakes?
But that's all they do tho
Oh wait
Nvm I get it.
15% more likely to be rare but no one cares about that lmao
is this your first or second hermes
and what's the rarity on reflex
Epic Reflex and this is.my first time running into him this run
No pun intended ofc
so we can either take hyper sprint and rng for rush delivery on the next hermes, or be safe and just take the dashes lol
Yeah, me and rng aren't good friends so im gonna take reflex
you have tdash tho so the extra dashes would help the damage a lot, but if you do manage to get rd it'll give you a global damage boost on everything
fair lmao
I'm cryin rn...
spoiler that
I'm just...
but yeah it do be like that
wasn't here to read anything, just wanted to send messages
Can someone explain to me why Poseidon Dash is so good? I see it suggested a lot and used it a few times but I can't really focus on its affect during battle so I haven't been able to notice why it's so good. I understand that it has a high base damage and people say that it's good on styx but why??
especially in styx it slams stuff into walls a lot
That’s basically it, High base damage, big aoe, opens up a really nice curse (shoals) and synergizes well with most weapons, just overall very solid.
How much damage does that usually do? I have 50~ hours from the game but like the first 40 is from last year on a very laggy computer that just died in Elysium and I'd just survive through lucky dash attacks. I recently started back again and have used 3 main builds to beat the game and they haven't been close combat based. I used Doom + Chaos Shield, Hunting Blades Achilles Spear and Eris Rail Jolted + Chill so I probably didn't utilize it that much
ok thanks
If you get a Poseidon T2 called Breaking Wave you can literally dash into a Styx tunnel and it’ll kill everything. That is usually what makes that dash extra strong for Styx. On its own it’s nice but much slower
tdash is just the highest damaging dash in the game
and then it's free shoals on every enemy
and then wall slams in styx give you free damage, especially if you get breaking wave. breaking wave makes styx a joke
As for actual numbers I have no clue because wall slams are jank as hell but I’ve seen it do like 200-300 repeatedly like 2-3 times on the same enemy
In Styx
Because they bounce back and fourth
ok cool, thank you
Plus the higher the ||heat,|| the more painful it is to be up close to stuff. Knocking stuff away if you dash into the wrong spot is a nice failsafe.
alright I just beat the game with ME what other op builds are there, perferably with spear, sword, or rail
what was ||heat||, again?
with spear you could try an achilles cast build, hunting blades, crystal beam, and ice wine are the best ones
sword is just me again
and rail get cluster bomb and rocket bomb, artemis on special, and zeus on attack
yeah but that's not an overpowered build
requires quite a bit of skill because it's just normal sword but with more dps
cluster bomb and rocket bomb? is that deadalus?
yes
it's the best hammer combination in the game, sends 5 full-power rocket bombs like a shotgun
400 base damage
what aspect of rail
eris works best with the build i described
but the build i described works with any rail aspect except ||lucifer||
spread fire, flurry fire, or targeting system
Avoiding spoilers, but basically think of it as a scalable difficulty level.
How do Swift Flourish and Blitz Disc interact? Does the disc move faster or does it hit more often?
Just came across that potential combo and didnt take it lmao
||Heat|| should be in spoiler tags in this channel
The animation for you throwing it out is quicker
This is how swift flourish affects most specials. Only the animation speed of the launch, and for railgun, the reload time
Oh, drat. Not nearly as helpful as I was hoping.
Got it, sorry!
Will Zeus shield aspect become a continuous projectile denial zone if Athena special boon is taken?
Also, will it continuously apply on hit effect of Ares/Dio/Zeus's special?
Yes and yes.
Any tips for fighting the final boss
His first phase is kinda difficult for me when he flings those skulls
and the second phase screws me over with the pots
There is a way to make theseus never speak again ?
Turn on God Mode man, thats what i did
Now its at 40% reduced dmg
I feel thats just right for me
that kinda makes the game too easy no
just hard to keep track of them
so i try to destroy them
but maybe thats too much commitment?
||as long as dad isnt right on your toes, bursting down the skulls is a good thing to do yeah||
why was hades taken off of game pass
Anything about the final boss is spoilers in this channel. As for tactics for the fight, this might help: https://docs.google.com/document/d/137Vqe-8fvStMJ_HMlBKWwq3SVdoOED0lOpBBSmgGwtQ/edit
If I grab Nourished Soul, will that increase the healing on Cursed Slash?
No.
Damn.
if I could change 1 thing about hades I would buff dio in general
if I could change one thing it would be better hammer balance, especially on sword
^ hammers need rebalancing imo tho
dio call and cast are extremely good
iirc
i mean sure there's better but in general it tends to feed itself from my exp so it's pretty much up most of the time without relying on stuff like smair
surely there's worse
read what
you said it's t3
whatever that means
alright makes more sense
my point was that it's not bottom of the barrel anyway
Hello guys, quick question. Might be spoiler for new players. || Does the extreme measures affect the dialogues of Asterius, in the way that he doesnt reveal the waking phrase for the fists?||
||It adds more dialogue to the dialogue pool so it'd be harder to get||
So like
Yes and no
You can still get it but it'd be harder
Okok ty
have divine dash and Im trying to get hunter blades on my achilles
should I switch out divine for hunter dash
Hunter Dash is not a prerequisite for Hunting Blades iirc
So no, Divine Dash is nice and safe for melee weps, Hunter Dash doesn't provide much here
If you're looking for an offensive dash on Achilles your best bet is Tidal
it is
its that or artemis aid
Hey guys I have a question, I'll mark it as spoiler bc I don't know where it stands but || how do you get the aspect of Lucifer on the rail? I've been trying for ages and I can't get it ||
Check pins in #h1-story-discussion
Sweet thanks!
Hunter Dash does unlock Hunting Blades. But it's also not particularly great on Achilles.
is the game is like tboi? (has items and different char and things)
what's tboi lol
oh makes sense
from what i heard of isaac, this game is much more friendlier in terms of rng and game play lol
1 character, a couple different weapons, not too much bs rng
lmao
good nemesis build?
yes
for the wanton ransacking prophecy, does anyone know the enemy that comes right under dire soul catcher and where to find it
propecies doesnt progress
do i need to keep dying
to make them wwork
i do follow it
any
it doesnt matter
aspect
or whatevr
even hearths
lyre playing
none of them
progress
i cant progress with any of them
for example for posedion fish one i have collected 50 fished even tho it askes 25
idk if im unlucky
or why i cant unlock hearths with cerberus
i keep petting and talking to it
You need to play the lyre 210 times to finish it
Have you pet him 20 times?
You need to have fished up at least 1 legendary fish for that, which are a 50/50 to get upon perfect catching
It would be one of the styx minibosses I believe
I got the game yesterday and I keep seeing aspects mentioned, what are they and how do I level them(?) I'm so confused
Alternate variations of the base 6 weapons, you unlock them by buying all the base weapons (using keys)
ooo okay I have all the base weapons ty for telling me :))
Do you know which one specifically
It's the last one I need
No I just know it’s one of them
It’s not like you have much choice in the matter for which styx miniboss you run into anyways
Damn
Just take skull rooms in styx till you get it ig
my runs after my first clear have been so bad
hammer with fist not even giving me explosives uppercuts anymore
im sad
That’s rng for you
that's pretty bad rng then shield no longer gives me multi bounce hammer
fist don't give exlposive uppercuts
kinda sadge
What Ambrosia do ?
Same as Nectar but at high affinity.
So i can sell It for titan blood ?
Sure.
Yes
hades is hard
Alright
Just beat the final boss for the first time
The death scene was hella good
gaming
Aside from the ||titan blood|| and the ||pact of punishment||
Is there anything else i get after completing a run
I know you can get ||call plushies || from meg and dusa and stuff but idrk how you get them-
Just a tad confused
🎉🎉
I just got to the final boss, with a pretty nutty aegis build, its my first time here lets hope i win lol
Rip i died to phase 3
Ive seen max heat runs with the second shield aspect
Zeus i think
Is it that good?
Chaos
Rlly
Yea i used chaos that run
I usually max heat with a shield that acts like ares rift
I think the shield is my fav weapon
Oh that one is Zeus
I like the spear
Based
Spear is also good
Coronacht is also great
I just dislike how u cant spam the attack button
U have to hold it
Also i didnt know poseidons aid forced u to move
It got me killed just now
His call?
Ye
Dang
I was using it to run from the lasers
But it moved me past rhe pillar
A few times
Feels bad man
Artemis
Ive only found consistent use with athena and artemis
Ares
Artemis has a solid one
Aphrodite
Aphrodite is not good for bosses tho
It doe’s good damage at max charge
Zeus and dionysus are the best dps calls
And you don’t full charge them you just use the minor calls
i've beat the game with every weapon with every op non hidden aspect, and I have around 20 titan blood, what aspect should I get?
Whichever ones sound interesting
I dont know which one to start with
hestia
Rail
going by weapon, do you have
Nemesis
Achilles
Zag shield or Zeus
Zag bow or hera
Demeter
Eris or hestia
did a run with the artemis call it’s so good
also athena’s call is good if you have a bull that deals lots of damage, can just run it beat whatever up, and leave
got nemesis, achilles, chiron, eris, demeter
I am really stuck at 3rd boss now, any tips and weapon to use? I am using Fists. Reached them 4 times and 2 times killed the Minotaur as I figured out he does most damage but he is easy to go down.
Any tips would be helpful
use shield for ur first run
gets u used to the mechanics of dogdging the attacks while keeping u safe if u need it
Okay, thanks will use it and learn their moves
use doom (ares) on the special
Yes I use his keepsake for doom boon
Focus fire one of the 2 then move on to the other
And i have noticed Posiedon's dash water splash think doesn't work on them
It does work on them
Tidal dash works on everything
🤨
Put something that makes sense with the rest of your build on special
No I meant it works but not very effective against them
using the evergreen acorn from eurydice really helps!! honestly this doesn’t sound very helpful but the main part of beating that figh consistently is learning attack patterns and how to dodge them. with the fists, which i mainly use, you’re gonna wanna just go in for a few hits and dash away. that fight is super tricky took me 10 times or so to beat
Trying to focus on Minotaur first because he packs a punch but goes down much easier
?
Tidal dash is plenty effective against them for damage
tidal dash supremacy
Yeah it doesn’t knock them back as much but that’s just bosses and knockback in general
can also get the boon that ups knock away damage against bosses
bro idk it was very good for me when I used it the first time
That's what I was trying to say 😅
also @somber frigate
Oh really, then i think my work is cut out for me haha
Anything can work but generally you want something that makes sense with everything else you have
that fight is ridiculously hard!! also, it helps to mainly target asterius and kill him first
?
I mean I told you the ones i recommended picking up
Yes, that i figured out 💯
yeah I was telling you the ones I have
Elysium boss is tough
smart smart 😈
elyusium is tougher than final boss in some situations
you'll find out
did u get to ||his second phase||
Ok time to sleep, it's 4 am here, time to close PC now 🥱
I got to ||phase 3 i think||
TOO REAL!! took me longer/more tries to beat the elysium boss then the final boos
its not that part of fighting that bothers me that much, it's the annoying af biome after with the poison and all that
Why theseus is so goddamm annoying
i actually hate || styx || the poison is awful
fr, the one enemy that shoots darts at you is so annoying because he always hits you in thw worst moments
do different aspects give you more titan blood if u run the same ||heat||
||Heat|| is spoilers, and no, they don't.
what is ||heat ?||
How do you know
There’s only 2
idc about spoiler
||like boss cells in dead cells ?||
||it makes the game more difficult after you finish it|| marking as a spoiler bc why not
||You can choose individual modifiers in Hades like enemy health/damage etc so it’s a bit different, more customizable and has a higher ceiling||
How i unlock it ?
precisly
beating the game once
Is it better to just keep dying at the beginning so the game progress with chatting or keep finish it
I finish it pretty easily but it takes a long time
I even got all 3 || statues||
|| how to get the epilogue achievement || ping me
how do I reroll for boons I want
tryna get poseidon attack but I keep getting the same stuff
it's for hestia rail
no like when I first get into the game, the first chamber
Yeah Poseidon atk still sucks
Use a keepsake?
whats a good build then
did that
For hestia just take any % atk that isn't pos or arty
Well if you don't see what you want reroll with fated persuasion?
percentage? what
If you want to take arty you're gonna have to rely on good chaos
% based atks
Like Athena or Aphrodite
Poseidon just sucks
Arty is either too little damage or too much damage
too much? how is that bad at all
ill do with athena then
whats a good build with athena
Break points basically
15% of the time you'll overkill an enemy
Every other time it'll take like 4 shots to kill them
And you might crit a 1 hp target
With Aphrodite or Athena you'll be more consistent with 1 or 2 shots to kill
Yeah
Hammers you want clockets
Piercing or explosive shot works too
Ricochet also not bad
But clockets is best
is ares ok for attack or special
No
explosive fire, cluster bomb, or rocket bomb
imo
Rocket or cluster
Cluster gives better chance of finding rocket later
Rocket gives better dps now
bruh I chose explosive because of hestia 😕
I thought I would mainly be using attack
Please don't ever take Explosive Fire over Rocket Bomb or Cluster Bomb. 
But funny explosive spreadfire zag rail
No. You'd take Rocket Bomb.
I mean that rocket is your crowd control lol.
Explosive Fire is cope pick tbh.
I reset that run
I like rocket bomb it's very fun
I just saw this, thank you!
Which ||aspect is better for varatha? Zag, Achillies, or Hades?||
Check pins for my aspect leveling guide.
hey what do I get if I beat ||Charon||
based
im currently in god mode if i turn it off and then on again do i loose all of the damage decrease i accumulated?
nope
so its all safe ig
is hera good with hunting blades?
haven’t tried it before but i don’t see why not! my personal favorite hera builds are dionysus cast with the zeus duo boon, you deal mad damage. also artemis cast with posedion duo boon is great!
which one? the hera bow?
you need to time it so that when the charging completes and theres a brief moment where theres a flash on the screen you release it
yeah
i had like no clue
i should have just brought the spear with me
this bow sucks lol
lemme
i bought da spear and the bow, idk why i bought da more cheaper one with me
right at this moment you release left mouse for more dmg
youll get used to it eventually
i can consistently do it with muscle memory ig
idk im still new anw
tho out of all the 65 runs ive did in this game, about 30 is prob with the bow 
Possibly the worst cast for Hera, so no.
Crush Shot is your ideal option
cool, thx
I have finished the game maybe over 10 times got only 1 cant give them gifts im. Maxed with all
I thought the bow was terrible when I first started but now it's the easiest weapon by far for me
whats better death or stubborn defiance
wait till u see the gun
i personally use death defiance 💪
aight
oh I've played plenty but I still like bow more than gun
gun is more fun for me, i miss my volley of arrows tho lol
can i mix them pls > lol
da gun special attack is boring for meh ngl
doesnt even hit alot of enemies for the most part
i finnaly beat hades which heat conditions are the best choice???
you need to spoiler that. anyway,|| tight deadline 1 is usually the first, it is very rare to go over that time even if you arent speed running. tight deadline 2 is not bad either if you like to go fast, it isn't hard but you still have to keep it in mind and you might have a bad time if it takes you long time to find satyr sack. extreme measures 1 isn't bad. tightened security is easy unless you are bad with traps. I personally think underworld customs is an easy 2 heat but I think I purge boons more aggressively than most players anyway. ||
Is rechargable cast or multiple casts better
depends on the build
Depends on the Cast
i prefer infernal soul tho
Which is that
multiple
The multiple casts
Oh
try both and see which one u like, and check builds to see which ones they use
I usually go for infernal for aggressive close ranged combat
And stygian for long ranged
I can keep distance
But im not sure which is more efficient
Basically comes down to this, if you can pick up the stones immediately after using a cast, then Infernal is probably going to be faster
Ye but its not like ill know what kind of cast ill have in the end
If the cast has an effect that lets it stay on the battlefield for a while, like Trippy Shot or Dem cast, then Stygian is probably faster once you get more atones from Chaos
Unless i actively turn down casts for the one i want
Ye
Ok so, what most people do when doing a Cast build is use the keepsake of the god they want to get in Tartarus so that they have a really good chance of getting their preferred Cast early
I saw that level 11 poseidon cast
First time i used it
I got ares the first time and never again
Try getting the Ares cast and Artemis attack/special/Call, you might change your mind there
how can I see the progress i've made? and the floors i've got to
its not like the binding of isaac
idk what anything means
Noob here.....Any tips? I think I need to slow down and not dash so often. 😄
you should dash more often
what specific things do you need help with
you're invincible when you dash, but when you dash-strike, you lose your invincibility
and you should pretty much always be dash-striking they're a lot better than standing strikes
by "pretty much always" i mean like 80%
unlock the second dash and death defiance asap
I was debating if a second dash would be more worth my time over the timed dash buff
its just whenever i boss battle the 2 heros i tunnel vision with all the GFX on the screen
practise. die. practise. repeat
is it practice?
wait i might not be able to english
practice
yea thought so my bad
do i need to give the olympians ||Ambrosia after the favor for the Epilogue||?
any 6/9 of the olympians iirc
lemme double check real quick though
yeah 6 of the 9
pefect, thanks!
this ||epilogue ||is gonna take more time and farmin than anticipated, but i'm still having fun so 😄
just british english/american english practice both work
i can unlock one aspect to each weapon now, i unlock it ?
i havent decided on what to either.... Only on the sword so far.
someone should have a chart on best aspects to upgrade in pins
if only
You all say that's fairly accurate?
yes
Thats a shame....I already put like 4 titans into zags attack speed sword for the life steal
That's fine, don't worry too much. It's just like some guide for what kind of power and potential you can expect.
Cursed Slash is far from optimal way of playing sword, but Zag Sword is good for it.
And it's like... I've seen Cursed Slash carry a lot of new players to their first (sword) wins. But the better you get with sword, the worse you'll probably think of Cursed Slash.
If that makes sense.
whats the fastest way to unlock locked hearths
i just started the game and both items seem to be good for progress but should i be prioritizing darkness or the chthonic keys?
imo keys first
At the very very start, keys. But it depends. Like... if you don't have enough Darkness yet to upgrade the next mirror talents anyway, then getting keys to unlock them isn't gonna do anything for you.
Long-term, you'll run out of use for Keys long before any other resource. So focusing more on Darkness isn't a bad idea.
Yeah, but they said they just started, so I think its better for they to get keys, if only to buy the weapons 
Keys are needed for wep unlocks too, so they are bis on a fresh save
Well a bit of both imo
Mirror as long as you have the darkness for it, and then weps
It doesn't make sense to unlock more of the mirror if you don't have the darkness for it yet
Depends on the kind of player you are. If you want power go mirror, if you want variety go weapons
Yes, but not for very long. 
Whats bis?
i seee, ok, tysm
mmo lingo, best in slot
Oh, I see, ty
Complete people’s favours
check the wiki for specific npc favours
link it please
confusing
Dude.
Just read the favor section of a character
I have no idea how that can be confusing
👍
do you think that you can win the game without a specific build and just winging it?
Yes

