ive seen like 100-200 crits i think
#h1-for-new-players
karmic sphinx
sweet brook
Artemis attack would be good I think
sweet brook
ive seen like 100-200 crits i think
For crits thats pretty low
sweet brook
It is
As long as it's not common it's decent
If it's common it's pretty sad
But eh crits are crits so whatever
honest wraith
how do you stop gamer raging when you die
sweet brook
how do you stop gamer raging when you die
take a break from the game if you find yourself raging too hard lol
also know that dying is part of the learning experience, and without losing, you wont learn from your mistakes
old escarp
Dying is just an excuse to experience more story with people in the House 
low folio
Do what I do
Channel it into hate to individual gods and hammers for not giving the buffs you want
GIVE ME THUNDER FLOURISH ZEUS
sweet brook
if that's the only core you have left, then the next zeus boon is guaranteed to have it
low folio
But then you go through most of asphodel without a lightning on Zeus shield
sweet brook
why didn't you start with it
low folio
I do sometimes fated rolls are not kind
low folio
Lmao
I want to try the Olympus extra mod
But I want to get the ending at least first
sweet brook
fair
speedrunning mod is just nice qol stuff that doesn't add any content tho, which is what i use
past plume
sweet brook
it's to prevent spam i believe
send it as an image link
so either upload to imgur or send the image to a different server and copy image link from there
sweet brook
lmao it's the only way to send images here
images are only allowed in #h1-victory-boasting
i mean you can do that lmao i wont stop or encourage that
viscid notch
so there is only 8 wweapins
6 weapons & a total of 24 aspects
green moth
okei i guess i will see them all
unkempt hatch
really dum and weird question but I see in #h1-victory-boasting lots of different victory screens with different art/layout, what stage do you need to reach to unlock these victory screens?
high mural
||all work orders bought||
low folio
Got a clear on Eris!
pretty sure i got super lucky at styx where i bought a daedulus anvil turning my cluster bombs into a Rocket bomb and triple bomb
dont think i could have cleared otherwise
sweet brook
lmao anvil moment
regal nimbus
a noob question , what is hell mode ? i searched on google if there's no permanetly dead explanations for our char ( like other game hardcore mode ) , is this true ?
if yes , so the hell mode is to get strong enemy but with better rewards ?
and .. is hell mode recommonded to play ?
viscid notch
a noob question , what is hell mode ? i searched on google if there's no permane...
||Hell mode locks 5 points of heat on every run you do, they are JS1 CP1 HL1 LC1 and it adds a new heat modifier that’s unavailable in a normal file known as Personal Liability. Hell mode doesn’t give you better rewards and it’s not recommended for first playthrough||
regal nimbus
||Hell mode locks 5 points of heat on every run you do, they are JS1 CP1 HL1 LC1...
ah okay i see , i already saw it that heat feature on youtube but still didn't know if it only on hell mode
thank you for the answers
tidal condor
I would simply not step on floor spikes
mental latch
I am not paying enough attention apparently
tidal condor
Well if you keep dying to spikes I suppose that’s good motivation to pay attention
mental latch
That is true
terse drum
At what point do you guys think you can really tell if the game is worth keeping or not? Ive defeated Meg and the game seems fun but I cant tell if I will enjoy it long term
sweet brook
There's people who have thousands of hours in the game and still play it daily lol
tidal condor
If you paid full price for it maybe refund it and wait for a sale
If you’re regretting the money spent
If you’re not just keep it and keep at it or try later
I got it on sale for 14.99 on the eshop and it’s definitely been worth it
sweet brook
lmfao
crisp hamlet
Has anyone done a meme of Meg from this game and Meg from family guy combined?
green moth
which eurydice food is beter
to get ?
i cant decide
+1 4 randoms ? seems good
anyone ?
wwanna help me real quick with that
sweet brook
refreshing nectar is almost always the right choice
if you dont have your hermes yet or didn't find the duo you want, take refreshing nectar
if you have both hermes already, take one of the other two
ambrosia delight if you think you have enough poms on your important boons and if you dont have a lot of boons in the first place, so you're more likely for it to hit a hermes boon or the boon you want. this is generally not a great choice because a rarity most of the time is just 1 pom level, but if you have a good hermes boon but a low rarity, this could be a good option if it hits hermes.
pom porridge is good if you have both your hermes, a sizeable amount of boons, and not a lot of poms invested. even if you have a ton of misc boons, it's gonna have a good chance on hitting the boons you want.
crisp hamlet
if you dont have your hermes yet or didn't find the duo you want, take refreshin...
Don't have your Hermes yet? What does that mean?
I have always gone for porridge cause rarity and level seem to often do the same thing
The nectar one always eemed weak to me because you can always guarantee 2 more boons before the end of the act
sweet brook
Don't have your Hermes yet? What does that mean?
hermes boon
sweet brook
you can only get 3 if you buy from styx
crisp hamlet
Garunteed 2? Or max two?
crisp hamlet
Alright who do you kill first? Thesis or asterius ?
Cause I'm assuming it's similar to the twins in terraria where you don't want them both in second stage at the same time
high mural
bull first
crisp hamlet
Males sense
Thats good to know
Cause double stage 2 twins is a night mare
I have been calling those two the twins in my head too which is funny
Nice
sweet brook
yeah
what makes theseus in em3 difficult is the fact that he provides a ton of area denial while you're dealing with the bull
theseus alone is cakewalk tho
wheat hollow
Tbh
The cluster bombs he has are only really a threat if you get stunned there by Asterius jumping you
other than that his chariot is unbelievably weak
and much easier to deal with since the guy can't block you in any way.
sweet brook
yep
em3 theseus easy, em3 bull kinda pain
em3 theseus is such a pain for speedrunning tho
homie keeps running
wheat hollow
Not really
he feels about the same
Just run from 3 swipes
and Dodge through his very slow leap
Thou you shouldn't be near pillars cause that causes his leap to mistime and end earlier usually hitting you way faster than it should
I don't think
I let him live long enough
to see it
Thou probs cause I've been using adamant rail
to farm for darkness
shhhhh
the 5 Q rockets ain't.
I've been getting either cluster or rapid
I forget the name of the one with 3 rapid ones
Trip bomb
I mean I can't use it with cluster ofc
I am using hestia mod so I don't need to be that close if I have her special
or poseidon special
gray haven
||on EM3 is somehow easier||
||The pact of punishment|| is spoilers in this channel btw. 
gray haven
Spoiler tags, I guess.
crisp hamlet
|| it shows up after one escape so like it's not that difficult for new players to run into it ||
Ah
green moth
well ıs ıt a good ıdea me to jsut yolo every run :
ı reach to the end
cerberus dıdnt let me
i stuck with rats
how do we upghrade the keepsakes
do i need to encounter back to back 25
or can i just do like 10 and change doanoher 15 and stuff
also i never sell
open arch
you don't need to do back to back
you can do 10, change, and then do however many encounters
it'll add up over time, no need to try and do them back to back
open arch
I mean
you want to try to get past the final dungeons
try to learn how to build a setup
some stuff pairs well with others
green moth
also whats up with gifts
open arch
ah! every time you give someone a nectar, the first one gets you a gift
after that, it's more about unlocking storylines
so it's about who you want to interact with more for the storyline
green moth
well can i give it to them all
or do i need to max only 1 person
like i want charos and dusa too chaos too
green moth
ALSO elysium BOSS is so stupid due
dude
what ahell is that
all area dmg
and the rush cant be dodged
crisp hamlet
Finally got clockets,umm yeah
Clockets with crit flourish and aphro arti duo is pretty good
You kind of just walk up and delete things
Especially with divine dash you just dash into thing and rdelte them
hollow forum
any weebs in chat
crisp hamlet
Ew
tidal condor
and the rush cant be dodged
Everything in this game can be dodged
rough rampart
Bruh, the game is based around dodging and killing things deader than they already were, Hades is kinda like a dollar store Doomslayer ngl
wheat hollow
But Bouldy is the exception not the rule
wheat hollow
Bruh, the game is based around dodging and killing things deader than they alrea...
I don't...see the correlation
one is the ultimate hack and slash
and the other is a Roguelite
where dodging bullet hell is sorta already the deal
rough rampart
Oh sorry I meant Zagreus
rough rampart
I mean that they're both killing things more dead
And Zag is technically a young God
wheat hollow
Well not just a god in the doomguy universe...
Pfffff
also
Doomguy kills demons exclusively
rough rampart
Omg that was good!!
rough rampart
B-but
wheat hollow
now for the underworld
rough rampart
Bruh
rough rampart
Nearly everything in there has died
Why were we arguing over this? 😂
rough rampart
seems fun
I think we are the few people that have fun arguing respectfully over dumb things XD
wheat hollow
Tis the life of me
low folio
If im running a Zues aspecct Zues Build
and i managed to get both an epic Static Discharge AND cold Fusion
would you reccomend Pomming the Discharge or the thunder flourish
tidal condor
Discharge
low folio
yeah it helped lmao
also i think im done trying to make aspect of achilles work
you gimp yourself until elysium for basically the same amount of oomf any other aspect gets you
at least with the cast build people seem to likel
tidal condor
||Demeter|| is a spoiler in this channel
low folio
my b
tidal condor
To spoiler all you have to do is put || around the message ||
FYI
Or just around the part that needs to be blacked out
sweet brook
isn't cold fusion basically pointless with zeus flourish zeus shield
because you're always reapplying anyways
cold fusion would be more useful if you had like, lightning reflexes/dash or call with no smair
sweet brook
keep resetting for ME lmao
dont get it in aspho or early ely, run's dead
unless you have explosive upper
on dem fist
crisp hamlet
I figured out how to make spear good
sweet brook
flurry jab?
crisp hamlet
Flurry dash strike
With a ton of dash strike buffs
And aphro primary buff
Butt loads of damage
crisp hamlet
Ew controller
tidal condor
Oh but you weren’t using flurry you were using serrated
crisp hamlet
Yeah serrated is the name
But yeah
That with hunters dash, and a chaos buff for dash strike, plus aphro primary
Tons of damage
sweet brook
serrated is the 2nd best hammer so fair
slap that on achilles and you get a bonus 150% lmao
crisp hamlet
Yeah was using Achilles but I never really used special
crisp hamlet
Honestly didn't need it
high mural
hate serrated
crisp hamlet
Things melted before me
sweet brook
hate serrated
same
high mural
it’s so extraordinarily risky
sweet brook
reduced dash distance kinda a pain
crisp hamlet
I thought I would at first but honestly it was very fun
sweet brook
it's manageable since spear has good range, but it's also like
inconvenient against bosses
crisp hamlet
It's also manageable when you can always win the DPS race
Like that's all the || hades || fight was
I just ate hits and out dps him
sweet brook
i mean yeah if you have a ton of dps you can most of the time disregard safety
it's just that most of the time when using achilles i build towards the cast lmao
so serrated just becomes a pain
crisp hamlet
Lol fair
It for sure helped that serrated was my starting drop
So I could just build around it
And I got the chaos dash strike boon on the second chamber
crisp hamlet
I don't remember but I do know I don't like flurry
sweet brook
flurry best hammer lmao
crisp hamlet
Too m uch standing still
sweet brook
well you stab and then dstrike/dash afterwards
or special out
cycle damage boosts
you also keep full dashes so that's nice
sweet brook
achilles is a strong aspect but i'm just so bad with spear lmao
crisp hamlet
I'm bad at weaving in special/primary/cast all together
I typically have to just focus on one thing
sweet brook
idk the proper rotation but it might be something like special -> spam cast (or spread out throughout room -> special (to where you first casted) -> attack -> pick up cast
and then dash/special back to other casts and attack idk
could probably just like
special, spam all casts at one place, special, attack, pick up casts
crisp arrow
Hi guys
hollow forum
which weapon did u guys mainly use as noob? I have been trying to play with bow. Haven’t gotten very far at all yet tho lol
vapid dragon
a matter of preference
crisp hamlet
which weapon did u guys mainly use as noob? I have been trying to play with bow....
Sheild and rail are IMO (as a noob) the best noob weapons
open arch
I could never get the hang of shield
vapid dragon
consider that this is advice from someone with level 50 divine dash in the username
might not be the most practical advisor for noobs :P
(for the simple reason that they might've forgotten what the struggles are)
slate finch
I could never get the hang of shield
if you take advantage of the fact that bull rushes are invincible it's one of the easiest weapons try it it's fun
sweet brook
Or if you get the charged shot hammer you can spam base 80 piercing damage
slate finch
that too
open arch
?
sweet brook
shield special isn't good unless you're using zeus shield
hollow forum
any recommendations who to give my first few nectars to?
crisp hamlet
Hypnos gift is pretty good too
So is sissyphus
But don't listen to me I'm a noob
Athena gift is really nice for trying to force divine dash
hollow forum
i have like 4 teas i think i gave some out before
are they permanent boosts or only last one run?
crisp hamlet
are they permanent boosts or only last one run?
It tells you
It's semi permanent
But honestly IMO as a noob the best keepsakes to get early are cerberus, Athena, hypnos, and skelly.
I can explain my noob thought process on this if you want
hollow forum
that would be excellent
im gona get cerebus and perhaps skelly 1 each for now does that sound decent?
hmm looks like the dog isnt here this time tho. Cerebus comes and goes?
crisp hamlet
Cerberus: it's +max health for as long as you have it equipped.
Athena: helps you get divine dash which is really nice for noobs
Skelly: free life while wearing it
Hypnos: free money at the start of a run
Another good one is Artemis cause her boons in General are solid for most builds. One that I personally like that you might not have run into yet is chaos
Not having to pay the blood cost for chaos gates is nice
hollow forum
Cerberus: it's +max health for as long as you have it equipped.
Athena: helps y...
very good info my friend thanks a ton
so cereberus doggie is not present on all runs?
he wasnt there last time i looked
yes he is bad dog sometimes it seems
crisp hamlet
I like you said it's nice early when that 20ish health really matters
You aren't wrong
That was a personal choice not the best
gray haven
You only really wanna pick Cosmic Egg if you see a Light of Ixion in the Well between biomes, and even then only sometimes.
But that way at least you guarantee you get use out of it.
crisp hamlet
Fair
gray haven
Less for health save but more for the rarity boost.
crisp hamlet
I guess technically cosmic egg is also a free +6 health for every chaos gate you find
gray haven
Though saving health is nice too, of course.
hollow forum
I’ve been taking every chaos lol but I usually take the minimal drawback minimal reward
but I’m verry new I just beat first floor boss for the second time
gray haven
Go for the best reward unless the curse is completely awful like more enemies. Chaos boons are great in most builds.
sweet brook
For newer players more enemies would be bad
gray haven
I guarantee you every single new player I've coached who picked more enemies has learned to immediately regret it.
It is.
Because they're new.
Well that's good if it worked out for you.
hollow forum
Go for the best reward unless the curse is completely awful like more enemies. C...
yea more enemies i knew right away is too hard for me. I am significantly better with the bow than I was starting out it seems but ive only done like 15 short runs
yes its a skill issue fasho lol
for now
gray haven
Bow especially really wants Attack and Dash-Strike boons from Master Chaos.
hollow forum
Bow especially really wants Attack and Dash-Strike boons from Master Chaos.
see thats what i have passed up twice i thought dash strike would be much better for a melee it makes more sense in my mind cause the bow seems a little slower and farther away play at first
but that now makes better sense since you should be dashing often....
gray haven
Bow at high level is basically just Dash-Strike Power Shots and nothing else.
Dash and hold Attack, and it charges way faster, yeah.
hollow forum
but like what window do you have after a dash to count as a dash strike?
idk if i do it fast enough yet
gray haven
You'll notice pretty quickly tbh.
And well, if you play on pad, you can just roll your thumb over both anyway.
hollow forum
hmm yea
i just got done fully learning and maxing out risk of rain 2 for the most part before this and there was a ton of learning along the way
i guess im in for some front end work with this game as well too lol
gray haven
If you play bow a lot, and it sounds like you do, you'll pick up on the rhythm pretty quickly.
hollow forum
You'll notice pretty quickly tbh.
are u a fan of trying to just do the bull - dash tactic thing with the shield as a noob to get a lotta resources at first?
yes ive only played bow really so far tried sword a bit
gray haven
I don't think shield is the best beginner weapon tbh. New players have a lot of trouble figuring out how to get good DPS with that, and while they feel safe, they end up dragging out fights so long that they take a lot damage.
sweet brook
Shield is good for beginner players if they get charged shot consistently lol
That way you have both block and damage
gray haven
Not necessarily. They usually charge their Charged Shots way too long.
Yeah, not like it can't work, just in my own experience coaching players, they usually get a first clear fastest with spear or rail.
Tidal Dash gaming.
hollow forum
i find myself constantly needing healing lol my damage kinda seems fine rn
crisp hamlet
Honestly with enough dps you can just out dps race most bosses and kill them before they kill you
crisp hamlet
Yeah, not like it can't work, just in my own experience coaching players, they u...
Hazard bomb got me my first clear
gray haven
||Heat|| is spoilers here.
crisp hamlet
Oops
gray haven
Idk, try it.
hollow forum
tru
gray haven
Sure.
You can follow this Nectar guide here: https://twitter.com/dianaii__/status/1336090118218801153
Just follow the advice in the image.
viscid notch
hollow forum
lets say u have a regular attack buff from a god (Deadly Flourish) and you have ranked it up to level 3... Then you accept a new reg attack boost from a different god. Does it revert back to lvl 1?
viscid notch
lets say u have a regular attack buff from a god (Deadly Flourish) and you have ...
If you sell your current attack and pick up a new one yes but if a god offers you a swap then it'll stay the same level
hollow forum
If you sell your current attack and pick up a new one yes but if a god offers yo...
ohh... that is very intriguing. and much more fair
gray haven
lets say u have a regular attack buff from a god (Deadly Flourish) and you have ...
Exchanges usually aren't worth it btw. Though there can be times when it's good.
hollow forum
Exchanges usually aren't worth it btw. Though there can be times when it's good.
do u always generally like to go for hammer upgrade rooms unless u need to hit a shop desperately or something?
also for noob to yall prefer sniper shot, perfect shot, or flurry shot?
i could see all three of them being viable tbh
sniper seems safe and effective
perfect just seems solidly good
idk how flurry would be
viscid notch
do u always generally like to go for hammer upgrade rooms unless u need to hit a...
Hammers are really strong on most weapons so you kinda want them asap, the first especially is one you should not skip, it's a bit trickier when against a shop tho because the shop is a free room, if you have no money/ don't need anything specific just take the hammer room.
hollow forum
Hammers are really strong on most weapons so you kinda want them asap, the first...
fav bow upgrade?
I tried triple shot once so far it didnt seem that good to me tbh
but i havent got far at all
viscid notch
also for noob to yall prefer sniper shot, perfect shot, or flurry shot?
It depends on the weapon a bit but usually you take either Flurry or Perfect, they have different playstyles but are both good. Flurry is more of a preferred second hammer rather than first but it works
Sniper is not a viable upgrade, it blocks a really good hammer from showing up (Twin Shot) and the long range buff is not something you get to proc often due to how the combat generally is.
Even though you're using a bow you're still playing up close and personal most of the time.
hollow forum
Sniper is not a viable upgrade, it blocks a really good hammer from showing up (...
i could see a twin shot flurry being nuts lol
im gona try flurry i think
viscid notch
I tried triple shot once so far it didnt seem that good to me tbh
Triple is a pretty good upgrade, it takes some getting used to and involves taking risks more often. You can shotgun enemies with it if you're close in a way that all three arrows hit the same enemy.
hollow forum
Triple is a pretty good upgrade, it takes some getting used to and involves taki...
interesting. Tyvm for info mygull
high mural
i think exchanges are generally beneficial if you’re switching additive for additive
gray haven
Nah.
viscid notch
Make it a flourish and you have a deal
gray haven
Knockback on Tempest Flourish can suck, though.
Enjoy your Tempest Flourish on Demeter Aspect. 
high mural
yea obv if the specific boon sucks ass it’s bad
but the inverse is true, exchanging epic tempest strike for heroic aphro would be great
sweet brook
Kinda insane how pos special has the 2nd highest but has the worst strike
Tech 2nd lowest because arty is lower but it has crits
crisp hamlet
Sadness
hollow forum
what's the benefit when i get the diamond after defeating floor 2 boss?
hollow forum
i cant progress anymore
thundershock must evolve into thunderbolt
crisp hamlet
what's the benefit when i get the diamond after defeating floor 2 boss?
Some work orders cost diamonds
hollow forum
oh gosh so i got posieden dash + extra 2 dash charged last game
it was
carrying hard
but new enemies killt me
hollow forum
Some work orders cost diamonds
im looking at wiki and other articles and such
is it possible u tell me best thangs to get me farther? I could have beat floor 3 just now but i wasnt focused enough
i been using bow only pretty much
tidal condor
Floor 3?
crisp hamlet
is it possible u tell me best thangs to get me farther? I could have beat floor ...
Honestly just mechanics and gamesense which all comes from practice.
Also for bow try to perfect your dash strike rhythm
That's all I got as I am.noob too
low folio
I still think boss 3 is harder then boss 4
hollow forum
what is the boon that looks like a target
or maybe its not a boon
its just like
yellow fat target
tidal condor
Athena
crisp hamlet
Athena has some really good boons
sweet brook
it's a contender yeah
ddash provides a lot of safety, tidal dash provides a lot of aoe and damage
and is a styx shredder
ddash helps a lot of newer players learn mechanics and whatnot, but after a certain point they'll eventually get good enough to not need it and should start using tidal dash
or not starting with ddash lol
low folio
Styx shredder is a great point
My desire to live goes down the more armored satyr cultists that exist
sweet brook
tidal dash + breaking wave is what you'd need
typhoon's fury on top of that if you want or as a secondary option to breaking wave if you dont get bwave first
or if you're still using ddash crutch then you can use flood shoot with breaking wave
if you dont get either breaking wave or typhoon's fury, tidal dash is decent enough
hollow forum
Probably the best overall dash
Poseidon +2 dash enhance Carried one of my noob runs it’s broken
But also the weak dash is nice
But the deflect dash seems better
To me Poseidon dash and deflect dash seem best
sweet brook
they are
tidal condor
Everyone knows passion dash is where it’s at
sweet brook
tbh most of the dashes have some niche use cases
most of them are opening duos
arty dash is great for bow but then you dont have tdash for styx lmao
low folio
My least favorite dashes are probably ||demeter|| dionysus and Artemis in that order
tidal condor
Artemis dash is good for a few applications
Dionysus is weird but usable if it’s your only source of HO
||Mistral|| is actually very based in my experience
I just hardly ever use it
sweet brook
||Mistral|| is actually very based in my experience
spoiler moment
but yeah ||mistral|| dash is pretty niche in the sense that it's one of the easiest ways to proc pstatus
for dashes*
arty dash is only good with like, non-ME sword and hidden bow
gray haven
but yeah ||mistral|| dash is pretty niche in the sense that it's one of the easi...
Worst dash in the game.
Hunter Dash is great on Hestia, any bow, any sword, Demeter Aspect, Hades spear and hidden spear...
sweet brook
eh the dash shoots outwards which gives it more range than some other dashes
mainly the ones that can proc pstatus
i'd take it over nasty dash if i needed something for pstatus
literally just for hidden shield tho lmao
and she's gonna be in the god pool anyway so it's a good back up option
gray haven
If you need it to proc Privileged Status, you already messed up the build somewhere.
sweet brook
i mean, like i said it's just for hidden shield
and obv i'm starting with passion flare, and if i reroll and dont get the proper pstatus boon but the dash is there, might as well
i did say it was pretty niche
hollow forum
what’s the benefit of getting better rep status with the different NPC’s? Better boon rarity ?
gray haven
Story progress.
hollow forum
they are so addicted to that nectar 👀
hollow forum
Passion dash? 🤔
wat is best conventional builds to get going if you see the pieces?
I know u gotta like pick as you go but
any general advice for bow player ?
sweet brook
which bow
zag bow, chiron, and hera all build very differently
well i guess the very least is that you always dash strike for a faster charge
more or less becomes a rhythm game
hollow forum
zag bow, chiron, and hera all build very differently
Umm I only have 1 bow
gray haven
any general advice for bow player ?
You can find mind my newbie build guide in the pins, as a starting point.
hollow forum
Oh tyvm there’s many rando guides and articles online that aren’t very good
I will check pins 🙂
tidal condor
Tree wrong as usual
hollow forum
Last Stand from Athena only replenishes a res it doesnt give you another one if you have 1/1 currently right?
gray haven
Right.
hollow forum
Right.
spank u 🙂
Poseidon dash is so dang strong....
Seems like it could singlehandedly carry first few floors of a run?
viscid notch
Seems like it could singlehandedly carry first few floors of a run?
Indeed, more if you pom it and use it efficiently, it’s a bit trickier in later biomes, but yea it’s pretty strong on a lot of weapons.
hollow forum
Indeed, more if you pom it and use it efficiently, it’s a bit trickier in later ...
im using bow exclusively basically whole time playing so far
viscid notch
Tidal Dash is alright on the bow, can have some anti-synergy with some combos, I would opt for it on Chiron but it’s not my preferred pick on other bows, but it does work.
hollow forum
yea im so early i cant unlock chiron or any weap upgrade yet
so i can cheese w tidal dash and
just got Razor Shoals
could be good to at least cheese farther than ive ever gotten
viscid notch
It’s good
gray haven
Tidal Dash is alright on the bow, can have some anti-synergy with some combos, I...
Great on Hera, too.
hollow forum
how do you know if your death defiance has been used once per run already?
sometimes i pause game and come back and forget
i suppose the icon says 1 existing in the stat menu
nvm
tidal condor
Above your hp bar there’s a circle for each Defiance
If it’s empty it’s used, if it has an icon of zag it’s unused
There’s some other icons for when you have refilled one
tidal condor
That’s when you refill with the well item or Patroclus
If you refill with Athena it’s her symbol
And if you get an extra from Chaos it’s a pink/purple circle
And the extra life from Lucky Tooth is a skull I think
crisp hamlet
Turns out burst fire + homing primary + zues primary on rail is pretty good
crisp hamlet
Burst fire was helpful to not have to reload
oh i also forgot i had supporting fire
sweet brook
delta chamber is so based
esp because the bug gives you full iframes in dash strikes
viral wren
How to become pro
viscid notch
Play the game
gray haven
Play the game
I've done that, but no one's ever paid me to play Hades. I got WRs but no sponsorships. 
viral wren
I want to play only 1 run and bit hades
how is it possible to be like that youtube
r
drifting island
How to become pro
wish i knew, man
sweet brook
Okay Mr wr holder
safe meadow
whats the best one then
drifting island
bow or shield are probably the best weapons across all contexts
safe meadow
Out of the 6 it's in the bottom half but it's still a good weapon
also i unlocked all 6 weaopns how do i unlock aspects
sweet brook
Do another run to refresh the house basically
And then once you're done go back to the weapons, hit the same button you used to pick up a weapon after you picked it up
safe meadow
whats the best sword aspect
tidal condor
Nemesis
vapid dragon
Arthur
viscid notch
can u recommend me a build
Start with Artemis or Aphro attack and try to look for Divine Flourish and maybe Hunter Dash later. The best hammer is Double Edge, other options are Piercing Wave and Breaching Slash. Also start by getting used to the Special > x2 Dash-strike rhythm otherwise sword is gonna feel pretty underwhelming. Another build you can go for is Merciful End but it can be inconsistent especially without a complete mirror.
hollow forum
That Minotaur fight w the 2 bosses keeps ending my runs. I think I beat it once but I always take massive damage doing it
timber girder
That Minotaur fight w the 2 bosses keeps ending my runs. I think I beat it once ...
Keep at it I'm also pretty new but after a lot of grinding I can beat them now and not lose all of my things. Devine dash helps a lot
crisp hamlet
That Minotaur fight w the 2 bosses keeps ending my runs. I think I beat it once ...
The biggest tip foe that fight is focus on asteruis first and try to keep the fight with him focused aro7nd the outside of the arena so you can use the pillars to block the spear throw from theseus
Once you kill the bull the fight becomes much easier
Also if you fight asterius earlier in elysium as mini boss fight he starts the main boss fight hurt
hollow forum
Also if you fight asterius earlier in elysium as mini boss fight he starts the m...
So is it bad to get it early or?
crisp hamlet
It makes the final fight easier
Cause he starts that fight with lower health
If you fight the bull as an mini boss, he starts the boss fight with around 25% of his health missing
Maybe this comparison will help. Have you ever played terraria? @hollow forum
gray haven
20% less HP.
crisp hamlet
There is a boss in that game that is a pair of twin mechanical eye balls. The general consuses in the community is to kill one eyeball fully before you damage the second one much at all. Same principle applies here. Kill the bull first and leave thesues mostly alone then once the bull is dead kill the man
crisp hamlet
20% less HP.
Also thank you I was guessing at the number but it seemed around 25%
hollow forum
Maybe this comparison will help. Have you ever played terraria? <@41314764589314...
i have not
crisp hamlet
Just nake sure thr bull is dead before theseus calls upon the gods for aid
It makes the fight go much smoother
hollow forum
Hey what option do you guys usually choose for the Eurydice event? I had pretty terrible boons currently....
hollow forum
Just nake sure thr bull is dead before theseus calls upon the gods for aid
ok fasho tyvm for that advice i will try to stay on the outside around pillars
crisp hamlet
Hey what option do you guys usually choose for the Eurydice event? I had pretty ...
Necter if it's early in apshodel, pom if you have decent boons and they need upgrades, and you take ambrosia if you have few a few boons with lame rarity
that's just my opinion on it
crisp hamlet
i have not
Terraria is a very good game BTW if you ever get a chance. It also goes on sale very often and is cheap even without a sale
hollow forum
Necter if it's early in apshodel, pom if you have decent boons and they need upg...
i think im going nectar. My whole build is all support stuff right now. No real good damage or anything RIP
crisp hamlet
i think im going nectar. My whole build is all support stuff right now. No real ...
That's smart
gray haven
If your build is good, you'd try to phase both and then kill both at the same time. Focusing Asterius first is more for low DPS builds.
I highly recommend the Bone Hourglass in Elysium for both DPS and survivability. Evergreen Acorn is fine and save, too, but Hourglass has amazing value in Elysium.
hollow forum
If your build is good, you'd try to phase both and then kill both at the same ti...
mmm i dont have the ability to swap those thangs yet. And I dont have many of them
gray haven
Hey what option do you guys usually choose for the Eurydice event? I had pretty ...
Refreshing Nectar is the best option 9/10 times, more than that probably, primarily for better rarity on upcoming boons from Lord Hermes and better chances for duo/legendary. Also because it lets you choose the boon. Gets better value when you have Fated Persuasion (mirror talent) later on to reroll boon choices you're offered.
Ambrosia Delight is for very niche situations when you have only a few boons (for high chance it hits them) that also happen to benefit a lot from rarity upgrade (e.g., Greatest Reflex from Lord Hermes).
Pom Porridge is for when you have like 4-5 boons that all benefit a whole lot from poms while your most important DPS source doesn't have enough poms yet, something like that. Also pretty rare but more common than use cases for Ambrosia Delight.
Basically, pick Refreshing Nectar unless you can think of an excellent reason for another option for your build.
crisp hamlet
lol thats funny cause about 5 gameplay hours ago i was always taking pom porridge
cause 4 > 3 > 2
hollow forum
yes, I didnt quite understand how it worked but now I do. Nectar seems amazing. Wonderful detailed information Nyaan !
gray haven
lol thats funny cause about 5 gameplay hours ago i was always taking pom porridg...
Tbf that was meta for a long time in early access.
hollow forum
The only person who is allowed to call me *Nyaan* is Lady Aphrodite.
nyaanyaaaaa 🙂
gray haven
We have pronoun roles, you know.
Speaking of which, y'all can set your roles in #bot-commands.
crisp hamlet
We have pronoun roles, you know. <:tizomg:456913427588317184>
awesome didnt notice
danke
Ms. Mewmew it is
hollow forum
is mew or mewtwo more powerful 🤔 one of the great questions of time
crisp hamlet
Competitvely? mewtwo
proven pivot
how is it possible to be like that youtube
Those videos of beating hades in one run are actually almost always someone who's played the game a ton making a new save file over and over till the first run rng works out in their favor.
hollow forum
Tbf that was meta for a long time in early access.
Ms Mewmew i tried to browse pins yesterday but couldnt really find much at all in terms of noob starter bible?
hollow forum
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2233472883
u da best
big ups
its interesting Mewmew you rate hera bow so high when i hear so many ppl saying how broken Chiron is
I suppose its a matter of consistency?
gray haven
its interesting Mewmew you rate hera bow so high when i hear so many ppl saying ...
Probably more a matter of who says it lol. Ain't no high level player who would call Chiron broken. And it's no better than base bow really at low levels.
The only relevant build for Chiron at lower levels is Drunken Flourish.
Chiron is easy to play and figure out a half-decent build for, though, I would say.
A good Hera build basically one-shots everything, with some AOE. Higher levels only actually matter for boss fights.
hollow forum
Probably more a matter of who says it lol. Ain't no high level player who would ...
ok this is great info to know
also on your mini guide for basic builds you recommend the Aphrodite attack for bow i always was taking Artemis when i could
the extra crit seemed so good
is there a clear reason why aphro may edge it out?
proven pivot
Big percent bonus, consistent damage, weak is a nice effect, and Artemis has a nasty habit of wasting the crit on a boss that's about to hit it's next phase
hollow forum
Big percent bonus, consistent damage, weak is a nice effect, and Artemis has a n...
so you do like it preferably for an early attack boon w bow?
proven pivot
I personally prefer Aphrodite always
proven pivot
I'm not a top level player or anything though
hollow forum
also have the option of Epic Wave of Despair or Rare Life Affirmation.
im super noob cant pass lvl 3 basically so
very new any info helps
proven pivot
I cannot remember what either of those does tbh
hollow forum
Life affirmation is that +36 % to all health up upgrades
and Wave of despair prob not that great
proven pivot
Oh life affirmation is great for getting your first clear
proven pivot
Exactly
gray haven
is there a clear reason why aphro may edge it out?
Both are fine. Heartbreak Strike has the highest % bonus. Deadly Strike can potentially beat out Heartbreak Strike in DPS with the right builds but also has a tendency to underperform 85% of the time and overkill 15% of the time, basically.
Speedrun meta for Zag Bow is Deadly Strike + Passion Dash for their Duo Boon Heart Rend, but that also relies on getting plenty of Attack and Dash-Strike boons from Master Chaos to hit low damage breakpoints reliably.
In any case, Weak is extremely useful and Lady Aphrodite offers a lot of survivability with her other boons as well.
hollow forum
ive maxed out games like slay the spire, risk of rain 2, and other similar games and the lesson was always get more damage first. Life was holding you back
gray haven
Easiest bow build for clears is probably Heartbreak Strike > Divine Dash and looking for bonus Attack/Dash-Strike from Master Chaos and any Wells of Charon you come across.
For base bow or Zag Bow anyway.
hollow forum
Easiest bow build for clears is probably Heartbreak Strike > Divine Dash and loo...
yes eggselent i got early divine dash now choosing heartbreak strike
gray haven
You'd want to start with the Attack so you can get early poms on it.
hollow forum
Easiest bow build for clears is probably Heartbreak Strike > Divine Dash and loo...
AND i have the chaos for attack dash strike
and i am like mid lvl 1
wish i could send screenshots in here
however i am using the lucky tooth keepsake for once instead of spiked collar so i am not used to this very low hp pool
gray haven
We'd say biome or call the region by its name, not "level", btw.
I recommend starting with a god keepsake to get a focused build.
Usually it goes:
god 1 > god 2 > Hourglass/Acorn > Acorn
For each biome.
You also wanna unlock the ability to change keepsakes between biomes asap.
gray haven
Just follow this image guide. https://twitter.com/dianaii__/status/1336090118218801153
hollow forum
yea i will have to unlock the biome keepsake switch
i saw that image guide but
one looks like eurydice and another blue god
not sure who the pink haired gal is
hollow forum
ohhh lol
gray haven
The point is to offer all of your earthly belongings to Lady Aphrodite.
hollow forum
yes she seemed stronger than i imagined
gray haven
After all, she is the Goddess of Love and Beauty.
hollow forum
feed her nectar?
well for the initial god keepsake yea
but what does maxing out ur rep do
i am reading and watching videos more than im playing currently
but i still miss so much lolz
gray haven
Among other things, gifting her all of your things ensures I won't have you fed to the sacred crocodiles.
gray haven
i am reading and watching videos more than im playing currently
Just play more tbh. Learning builds is nice and all, but practice is the best way to improve.
And upgrading your mirror and stuff will help a ton.
Which you can't do if you're looking at a guide. 
gray haven
but what does maxing out ur rep do
It's mainly for story purposes.
hollow forum
i see 🙂
gray haven
The devs tried to make the affinity mechanic... something that you wanted to do for the characters.
Not something that you did just to get a reward.
cedar holly
The devs tried to make the affinity mechanic... something that you wanted to do ...
gamer moment of people asking how to do things or what things do and not just finding out for themselves
gray haven
Ain't no other roguelike/-lite with a narrative like Hades really.
hollow forum
gamer moment of people asking how to do things or what things do and not just fi...
i mean true. But in some games in this general genre there are steep downsides to spending resources or basically regressing or stalling your progress greatly if you dont know about initially
proven pivot
but what does maxing out ur rep do
It doesn't do anything mechanically for the Olympians. Ideally you give one nectar to every character you can and then gift them nectar as they show up
hollow forum
so that's why i am curious
proven pivot
The "give all nectar to Aphrodite" thing is just a meme
proven pivot
No
gray haven
gray haven
i mean true. But in some games in this general genre there are steep downsides t...
You can just spend your resources however you like, really. Nothing to worry about.
hollow forum
eggselent ty
proven pivot
Other advice: Aphrodite and Athena offer great survivability, but you don't usually want Athena attack.
gray haven
Yeah, just take her Dash.
Maybe when you get a lot of Titan Blood, don't spend it all immediately on a weapon aspect that you hate. But even from that you can recover relatively fast eventually.
proven pivot
Her dash is the best of her core boons, but Athena's boons that aren't the attack/special/cast are usually pretty good.
gray haven
Her Cast is great.
proven pivot
I've never used it much, but I never use cast much anyways
gray haven
Special is great on sword and often decent on others when high rarity.
hollow forum
may i post a link to the resource ive been using for boon discussion?
gray haven
Attack is great on Hades spear and hidden spear.
hollow forum
it may be antiquated
gray haven
Sure.
You can also link images from imgur or something btw when you want to share screenshots.
hollow forum
okay. Here's the thread. I read through different takes mainly the most two upvoted posters when they rate boons. Its been ok but I have fallen into traps doing this before a bit with other games
gray haven
Image embeds are fine, just can't upload images directly outside of #h1-victory-boasting and #fan-works.
hollow forum
oic
proven pivot
Lmao two of my 3 favorite weapons are in the top 5 favorite aspects
hollow forum
yea i almost never do
it seemed like the only takable option for Poseidon i think i got that boon first
although on the second biome boss getting behind him and using special seems to deal some good dmg cause his hitbox is so big
i suppose i could have taken resources from Poseidon
gray haven
https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/np596i/rate_these_boons_1_aphrodi...
Ah that's the origin of the "idk man as" Divine Dash meme.
gray haven
it seemed like the only takable option for Poseidon i think i got that boon firs...
His Dash is amazing. Call and Cast are both great.
hollow forum
ppl rating it 2/10 when they know its like 9 or 10/10
ive never benefitted or really used calls properly yet
cause its not in my habit pattern
i barely cast but i really did like the dionysus cast for a bit
the lob one
big dmg
gray haven
Just use your Calls when they're up. When in doubt, just mash the button while doing other things lol.
gray haven
Excellent burst damage at Greater Call but requires poms to be good.
So you only really take Artemis' Aid if you're willing to put poms on it.
hollow forum
interesting. The diminishing returns for some poms seem noticeable already for me
i think i just need to perfect my dash - attack
gray haven
If you want a more in-depth build guide and a decent overview of the build meta, just refer to this guide. Some potential spoilers, though, like identity of hidden aspects. https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-build-guide
hollow forum
not sure of the exact window of time you have to perform a dash-strike
gray haven
But as I said, right now you're best off just doing more runs trying to apply the knowledge you already have + getting experience.
hollow forum
yes seems like it. I always get a bit better. Unless i have a totally all over the map unsynergistic build which seems to happen 1/3 or 1/4 of the time so far
hollow forum
If you want a more in-depth build guide and a decent overview of the build meta,...
i will be looking at this article in depth! Thx so mach
gray haven
not sure of the exact window of time you have to perform a dash-strike
Well, charge a standing Attack, then charge a Dash-Strike and you'll notice it charges much faster. If the charge speed is the same, then you pressed Attack way too late after your dash.
hollow forum
ohhh ok so its just a matter of time
its not extra dmg
i see
yes immediately makes sense
last question for a while lol, because u have given so much great info today @gray haven much appreciated. Is there anything u like about Dionysus for basic bow build?
trippy shot seemed decent for me last run
hollow forum
oh yea. So this post agrees w u mostly it seems
seems like an ok noob guide
the reddit one
gray haven
I wouldn't look at it as a guide at all tbh.
hollow forum
cripe 😦
gray haven
Doesn't mean you can't learn anything from it, but it's not a guide.
sweet brook
the reddit one
reddit generally doesn't have too great of advice/builds, but there are some people in the comment sections that do give out good advice
hollow forum
reddit generally doesn't have too great of advice/builds, but there are some peo...
Yea I’m trying to review as much data as I can to come up with decent opinions for myself
tis tough
gray haven
You don't have enough experience yet to evaluate anything you read, anyway.
And you don't even have god keepsakes yet to have much control over your builds.
low folio
Reddit convinced me talos was the best melaphon
Which while it's great in rooms
It's so meh in bosses
sweet brook
It's mediocre for rooms too lmao
gray haven
That's a meme build, but it's not actually strong.
low folio
All fists feel kind of meh tbh
I should try an Achilles attack build because I can't get the cast builds to work
gray haven
Yep. Malphon has high risk but pretty low DPS potential.
low folio
I feel like it should be infinite hit
There's no reason for it to be a 5 hit combo
It just slows down dps for no reason
gray haven
You can just Dash-Strike to reset the combo, so that's not really a problem.
low folio
Oh I've not realized that
hollow forum
You can just Dash-Strike to reset the combo, so that's not really a problem.
i been getting better as dash striker 🙂 slowly but surely
hunter dash seems pro but extremely good but the deflect dash seems safe
and then when i get poseiden dash it seems so strong sometimes then why even shoot lol
hollow forum
when in rome amirite
crisp hamlet
So you only really take Artemis' Aid if you're willing to put poms on it.
Or to full out duo reqs when you don't want to put arti anywhere else
polar talon
Hey! Any tips on first escape run? I've been using Shield+Doom+Cerberus keepsake but I've been struggling a lot 
hollow forum
Hey! Any tips on first escape run? I've been using Shield+Doom+Cerberus keepsake...
im on the same page. Only been using bow so far tho
polar talon
(nvm saw the pins)
tidal condor
Get Eurydice keepsake for final zone, possibly also for zone 3
Get and use god keepsakes for zone 1 and 2 so you can force your build the way you want it
Level up your mirror (extra dash, death defiances are super helpful)
Doom on attack for the shield isn’t terrible but without the Athena ares duo and divine dash it’s not gonna be amazing
If you get the hammer “charged shot” and put Aphrodite on attack you’ll be doing lots of damage
gray haven
Or to full out duo reqs when you don't want to put arti anywhere else
Call slot is way too valuable for that.
crisp hamlet
That's fair
Doom on special for shield and just run away like a coward honestly works really well
You don't even need many other boons for it to work
crisp hamlet
(nvm saw the pins)
Idk why I can't just ping you
gray haven
Doom on special for shield and just run away like a coward honestly works really...
Downside being it does low damage and hence takes forever.
If you have Zeus Aspect, though, Doom on Special and Deflect on Attack or vice versa and then their Duo Boon works really well.
crisp hamlet
Downside being it does low damage and hence takes forever. <:tizomg:456913427588...
Yeah but it takes forever while safe. The safe part is key
And with a decent rarity on the foom it's not that slow
Doom
sweet brook
the issue with fights taking forever is that it leaves more room for error
which is mainly seen in boss fights
gray haven
And Elysium, yep.
sweet brook
oh yeah ely too
sweet brook
deadly reversal with ME kinda good
gray haven
If everything else is full and you still need a core from her for a Duo Boon, your build is like all over the place.
crisp hamlet
Lightning rod, crystal clarity
crisp hamlet
If everything else is full and you still need a core from her for a Duo Boon, yo...
Meme beam build.
gray haven
As I said.
sweet brook
spoiler in new player channel moment
crisp hamlet
And PP doesn't count towards crystal clarity
Crap forgot that || granny || was post escape
sweet brook
post surface
crisp hamlet
post surface
Oh okay
I forgor
But yeah || meme beam || wants || crystal clarity || and PP doesn't count towards it so I had to take arti call just to get || crystal clarity||
sweet brook
okay but also
crisp hamlet
And I had gotten attack and special for other people before I got || meme beam||
sweet brook
taking random duos dont make a good build
gray haven
If you're doing that build, you're not supposed to take core boons but from those two to not open up any other Duo Boons. Except maybe Poseidon for Mirage Shot. That's three core boons, though, so still no need to take Call just to fill requirements unless you already messed up previously.
crisp hamlet
Yeah I wasn't going for it to begin with but like everything else for the build fell into place after I got attack and special
sweet brook
if you want to build around that, then sure that's fine
but if you're halfway through the run and think "yeah this will help me open a duo i can use", then that's a problem
crisp hamlet
That's fair
sweet brook
Yeah I wasn't going for it to begin with but like everything else for the build ...
just because you have half the prereqs doesn't mean you should go for it
just because i have athena and aphrodite in my cores doesn't mean i should use or take parting shot
gray haven
Well, for newer players, you won't have planned out your builds entirely from the start, so situations like that would come up more, I suppose.
sweet brook
got artemis special and tidal dash on the rail? mirage shot isnt gonna be that useful
crisp hamlet
just because i have athena and aphrodite in my cores doesn't mean i should use o...
I'm not just talking about the other prereqs I'm talking I was finding a lot of support mechanically for || meme beam|| not just the duo
sweet brook
the only support you need is ||glacial glare||
iirc
mirage shot is nice i suppose
but that's every cast centric build
crisp hamlet
Yeah I got that and + stone from chaos, and +1 stone legendary and + cast damage chaos too
So like the game was pointing me at it
Sadly +1 stone legendary doesn't count towards duo
gray haven
Thing is, at high level we basically never take that Cast without also committing to the Duo Boon at the same time.
crisp hamlet
Which is dumb
sweet brook
Sadly +1 stone legendary doesn't count towards duo
fully loaded? that's +2
crisp hamlet
fully loaded? that's +2
Yes and yes
sweet brook
and also, like 99% of duos require a core boon
legendary boons aren't cores
or needed tbh
crisp hamlet
You would still think a cast focused legendary would enable a cast focused duo
gray haven
So it's not like "oh this Cast is strong now, let's try to get the Duo Boon, too" because if we didn't already commit to going for the Duo, we wouldn't have picked up that Cast.
crisp hamlet
That's fair
sweet brook
with every run you should have a build in mind you want to shoot for
and before picking up a god's boon, think what they have to offer and if it's important
what duo you'll open/use from their core
gray haven
Idk about "should". People can play however they like.
sweet brook
like if im using chiron bow and start with dionysus special so i can get low tolerance or curse of nausea, i'd probably want to stay away from athena so i dont open calculated risk (might be good for newer players, but i personally dont like it) or if i'm forced into her, i'd take her cast because it wouldn't open that duo (although it would open parting shot)
gray haven
Nah, you wouldn't stay away from Divine Dash. Bad example lol.
But yeah, that's the general idea.
sweet brook
Nah, you wouldn't stay away from Divine Dash. Bad example lol.
normally yeah but also chiron kinda mediocre in styx
gray haven
Chiron being Chiron.
tidal condor
And with a decent rarity on the foom it's not that slow
Foom is OP
tidal condor
Spoilers
crisp hamlet
Is it really tho, I feel like the game makes it pretty obvious from the beginning you are gonna have to fight || hades || at some point
Like it feels pretty obvious to anyone that has read/watched/ play any kind of story based media before
Like as soon as you show up in the house the first time it feels obvious
I feel like || post hades || content is for sure spoilers but || hades himself || I don't think would be
gray haven
Is it really tho, I feel like the game makes it pretty obvious from the beginnin...
It's considered spoilers as per channel rules, yes.
Also, just because you expect something to happen in a story doesn't mean it's not a spoiler. Creating expectations and then meeting or subverting them etc. is an important part of storytelling.
leaden whale
hey guys
tidal condor
Hemlo
leaden whale
what does it do?
tidal condor
Gives you a choice of 3 boons from Athena, same as if you went into a room with that icon on the door and picked up that icon after the battle
leaden whale
shall i get it?
tidal condor
On your very first run, in the second room you picked one of those up
This one just happens to cost money
tidal condor
🫡
tidal condor
If you’re new, there’s no wrong choice really
You’ll wanna try out everything anyway
May as well buy it unless there’s a heart available instead and you think extra health would help you more
Or the food to heal you
leaden whale
thanks
viral wren
Whats the best boon for this stupid fisticuffs
rustic stone
Whats the best boon for this stupid fisticuffs
If you’re fighting against ranged enemies, probably athena boons that deflect or hermes boons that increase dodge chance. For melee focused enemies, probably Zeus, Poseidon, or Artemis (pressure points specifically) boons. For a call, i say go for Demeter’s Aid
viral wren
thanks. i will try this
tidal condor
If you’re fighting against ranged enemies, probably athena boons that deflect or...
Spoilers
slate finch
Whats the best boon for this stupid fisticuffs
anything with flat (non-%) damage
zeus, ares, and dionysus
if you're using ares try and get athena's special and dash and go for the duo boon merciful end, it's the strongest fist build but it's hard to get
slate finch
If you’re fighting against ranged enemies, probably athena boons that deflect or...
you should probably ignore what this guy is saying
these builds can work well with poms, like anything can, but non-flat damage on a weapon as fast as fists is not great
hollow forum
does u have to full clear a run in order to unlock weapon upgrades?
slate finch
does u have to full clear a run in order to unlock weapon upgrades?
you can unlock aspects before clearing a run
hollow forum
ah yes. I need another titan blood I think tho
I think I almost killed hades yesterday I got his first phase done then his second phase to about 50%
slate finch
spoiler mark the name of the final boss
gray haven
does u have to full clear a run in order to unlock weapon upgrades?
You need to unlock all weapons and then just do one more run. Next time you're in the courtyard, you can unlock aspects (if you have the Titan Blood for it).
Don't need to win any run.
gray haven
You get a Titan Blood for each weapon you beat the Furies with.
So you can get 6 Titan Blood fairly easily from that.
Getting more than that for now would require trades at the Wretched Broker or paying 1,200 obols at Charon's shop in the Temple of Styx. (50% chance he offers a Diamond for 1,000 instead, though.)
hollow forum
Oh sweet so I can get Hera today yayyy
Gotta figure out which weap to use besides bow now
Spear purrhaps 🤔
tidal condor
Try the railgun
hollow forum
What are best hammers to get on the spear if you havent unlocked any aspect yet?
got flurry jab first
seemed like a good pick
sweet brook
flurry jab is the best spear hammer
sweet brook
for nonhidden ones, hestia
hollow forum
what would be the best two attack boons you can get on spear if you have flurry jab already?
Zues Lightning strike and maybe artemis?
gray haven
Zues Lightning strike and maybe artemis?
Yes.
Lightning Strike + Static Discharge or Deadly Strike + Hunter's Mark.
hollow forum
I been reading that guide u sent me
gray haven
Poms on Static Discharge or Hunter's Mark respectively.
Lightning Strike better if you're using base spear.
hollow forum
yea I just got static discharge and lightning strike offered both rare
I guess u take attack first
gray haven
But you'd wanna start Tidal Dash, then pick up either of those two Attacks in Tartarus or if you can't find them there, go for Lord Zeus's keepsake in Asphodel and get Lightning Strike.
hollow forum
ahh I see
yea I didn’t get tidal dash but did get divine dash so far
Just beat biome 2 boss
im going to guess that Flurry Jab + Triple jab is very good?
sweet brook
yeah
hollow forum
yea seems good
I notice on the third biome that my damage has gone down by quite a bit
Spear still rules tho so far
gray haven
im going to guess that Flurry Jab + Triple jab is very good?
Flurry Jab is what's good. The second hammer doesn't really matter or make much of a difference tbh. You'd just want to avoid Serrated Point if you already have Flurry Jab because that will hurt your Flurry Jab DPS.
hollow forum
Flurry Jab is what's good. The second hammer doesn't really matter or make much ...
excellent. My first spear run (second weapon ever used) and im nearly at the door of hades
very strong
does anything notable happen when you gift charon the boss special nectar? or just story
gray haven
Spoiler tags for final boss.
hollow forum
lollllz
terse drum
What does Dionysus' After Party boon consider as "low hp"?
gray haven
That wasn't a joke, them's the rules in this channel.
gray haven
Yup, end boss and anything after that.
gray haven
What does Dionysus' After Party boon consider as "low hp"?
Below the threshold.
hollow forum
but i think im making good progress
gray haven
Yeah, you're getting there.
gray haven
Yeah, can be quite the lifesaver sometimes for newer players.
Although a lot of the time it'll do absolutely nothing.
gray haven
Don't need to stunlock enemies that die in one shot.
hollow forum
does anything notable happen when you gift charon the boss special nectar? or just story
tidal condor
Story
tidal condor
Ambrosia is the final gift for everyone except 3 NPCs
For those 3, it’s multiple ambrosia
hollow forum
whomst is ambrosia