#h1-story-discussion | Supergiant Games | Page 243

odd fox Dec 11, 2020, 7:39 AM

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skelly wants me to KILL THEM?!?

modest vine Dec 11, 2020, 7:40 AM

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yes

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but you'll have to max upgrade Zagreus sword

odd fox Dec 11, 2020, 7:41 AM

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hmm

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i need 2 titans blood

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for 6 diamonds

modest vine Dec 11, 2020, 7:47 AM

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what is the War-God's Bloodlust' Prophecy?

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I saw it on achivements but its not in my prophecy list

stiff geyser Dec 11, 2020, 7:49 AM

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thats the ares heart unlock

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just keep talking to him then he asks you to kill a bunch of enemies

modest vine Dec 11, 2020, 7:50 AM

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ok thx

signal fossil Dec 11, 2020, 9:38 AM

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how do i unlock artemis’ heart?

pale ember Dec 11, 2020, 9:39 AM

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follow your heart, do things Artemis would like, and play lots

stiff geyser Dec 11, 2020, 9:40 AM

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I finally got to the postman delivery job

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this game sure does have a lot of minigames

signal fossil Dec 11, 2020, 9:41 AM

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the what now

stiff geyser Dec 11, 2020, 9:41 AM

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you heard me

signal fossil Dec 11, 2020, 9:41 AM

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no yeah, what is that

stiff geyser Dec 11, 2020, 9:41 AM

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||epilogue stuff||

signal fossil Dec 11, 2020, 9:43 AM

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ohhh i see! never thought about it that way you do take over hermes’ job for a while

stiff geyser Dec 11, 2020, 10:39 AM

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||I got all but one letter delivered||

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rude

marsh umbra Dec 11, 2020, 10:40 AM

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I just got to the resolution of ||Dusa’s|| plot line, I think.

stiff geyser Dec 11, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Hey quick question

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||before the epilogue are you not able to meet chaos? nyx said I could give him a letter but I've seen not a single chaos gate or the well boon to get a gate in 3 runs now||

upbeat willow Dec 11, 2020, 12:12 PM

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Chaos' pronous are they/them/theirs btw @stiff geyser
for if you should be able to meet chaos prio to the epilogue, yes you should be able to, RNGesus might not have been kind to you the last 3 runs is all

stiff geyser Dec 11, 2020, 12:20 PM

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just finished a fourth and dang chaos is a bootyhole I want to eat potato salad with them

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5 runs to get a chaos gate

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dang

peak pumice Dec 11, 2020, 12:54 PM

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guys

noble vector Dec 11, 2020, 12:54 PM

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@peak pumice yeah, Zag knows about her.

peak pumice Dec 11, 2020, 12:54 PM

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on hades first run, zag alrdy knew about

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ohh ok LOL

noble vector Dec 11, 2020, 12:54 PM

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The scene where the player learns of her is a flashback.

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It's part of why he starts trying to escape.

peak pumice Dec 11, 2020, 12:54 PM

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noble vector The scene where the player learns of her is a flashback.

ohh so ya... ok so if managed to get it right on the first run, doesnt change...

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hmm i wanna think of a way

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OHH what about demeter and her daughter?? ay?

atomic forge Dec 11, 2020, 12:55 PM

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what

noble vector Dec 11, 2020, 12:55 PM

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What about it?

peak pumice Dec 11, 2020, 12:55 PM

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no wait still doesnt affect the first run story

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ok i cant think of anything. i can only think from a players perspective, it will be a shock value

noble vector Dec 11, 2020, 12:57 PM

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Yeah

peak pumice Dec 11, 2020, 12:57 PM

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since like "wait that's the mom?"

noble vector Dec 11, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Unless they know the Myths a bit 😉

peak pumice Dec 11, 2020, 1:01 PM

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noble vector Unless they know the Myths a bit 😉

wdym? pls tell me its nt abt incest

noble vector Dec 11, 2020, 1:02 PM

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Nope, but Hades' wife is Persephone

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So getting the reveal that Persephone is in fact Zag's mum is very much a "hah! that makes more sense!" moment

marsh umbra Dec 11, 2020, 1:16 PM

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They changed some stuff from the original myths to make it less creepy like ||Persephone has a random human dad in this game, I think||.

weary seal Dec 11, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Spoiler moment

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I accidentally clicked on this channel and let's just say I know some stuff I shouldn't now

marsh umbra Dec 11, 2020, 1:23 PM

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I like this version of ||Demeter|| so far. Like it’s an interesting design that’s not what you usually see.

noble vector Dec 11, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Oof, that's unfortunate. But this is the spoiler channel...

cunning grove Dec 11, 2020, 1:34 PM

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Hey so I saw that you can get into a relationship with some characters

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Is it possible to max the friendship without the relationship thing?

stiff geyser Dec 11, 2020, 1:36 PM

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yes

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you get a y/n option that still fills the heart

cunning grove Dec 11, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Oh nice

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Thanks

clever ruin Dec 11, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Yeah except for Dusa

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There you you don't really get a choice

stiff geyser Dec 11, 2020, 2:20 PM

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I love the dusa scene

agile iris Dec 11, 2020, 3:32 PM

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There was an admirable attempt to scrub out all the mythologically accurate incest in this game, and I appreciate it

storm river Dec 11, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Audiences don’t necessarily want to play out the incest in Greek mythology

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Although theirs is one of the better love stories in Greek mythology

dire torrent Dec 11, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Dusa scene is the best and I will fight anyone who has issues with it being as it is

wheat herald Dec 11, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Okay, so please don't spoil what happens in the story, but does it have a definitive end? And how many runs do you need to complete to see it all?

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I'm on my 5? or 6th? clear

storm river Dec 11, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Yes, there’s an ending

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||10 for the true ending, but to see the epilogue requires more because it involves maxing your relationships with the gods||

agile iris Dec 11, 2020, 5:03 PM

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wheat herald Okay, so please don't spoil what happens in the story, but does it have a defini...

||There's credits, then there's epilogue / true ending, which requires a bunch more stuff to be fulfilled! ||

wheat herald Dec 11, 2020, 5:11 PM

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@storm river @agile iris Thanks! I'll keep playing!

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I think this is the first game where it's taken me this long to get to the ending though lol

agile iris Dec 11, 2020, 5:18 PM

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I don't game often but when I do I finish 261 runs in one month 😆 so I have a bad sense of how long this game actually is.

neat crow Dec 11, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Depending on your playstyle, I think it takes about 50-100 hours to reach the epilogue

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That's very ballpark, though

wheat herald Dec 11, 2020, 5:52 PM

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neat crow Depending on your playstyle, I think it takes about 50-100 hours to reach the ep...

Lol, I'm at 77 hours right now

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Usually I complain about the story taking this long but this game is REALLY good, I didn't even notice.

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And there's just so much content?! It's amazing

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Yesterday I got a dialogue by Dionysus asking Zagreus to tell some crazy stuff about them being connected to Orpheus and see of he would believe it

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I absolutely lost my mind, that's so clever of you

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I was wondering why the game insisted in disregarding the Orphic Hymns

agile iris Dec 11, 2020, 6:18 PM

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If you've watched the OSP youtube video about Dionysus being Zagreus / just know the mythology that was such a huge treat

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:18 PM

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and then

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IT HIT ME

agile iris Dec 11, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Zagreus Dionysus is such an interesting story

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:19 PM

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it is! and that's why I was very confused as to why the game did not mention it

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but then it did

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in this way

void pier Dec 11, 2020, 6:19 PM

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So do I only get Dusa's Companion by maxing out the ambrosia?

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I know she can give it all back

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:20 PM

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and justified the Orphic cult's version in game, it's SO META

rocky dirge Dec 11, 2020, 6:21 PM

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shut temple I absolutely lost my mind, that's so clever of you

Just wait till you start giving Zeus nectar!

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:21 PM

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oh man

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the amount of research for the mythological back up of this game is delightful

potent matrix Dec 11, 2020, 6:22 PM

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whoever did the research on this team honestly deserves a grand vacation, some award and all the love

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Artemis also nudged Zagreus because his name means hunter, which is a sweet little detail

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and Ares threw some shade at her saying that hunters catch but he kills, which is great because Zagreus specifically means a hunter who catches living prey

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all of this while Zagreus is mortified by Tisiphone's accusation

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it's so fine

rocky dirge Dec 11, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Well, Zag does quite a bit of murder up in Styx

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:24 PM

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and he feels bad about it, he tells so to Achilles

rocky dirge Dec 11, 2020, 6:24 PM

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He does

potent matrix Dec 11, 2020, 6:24 PM

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to be fair - zagreus in the game never got to leave the house of hades, so he basically never actually got to murder anything but shades, which arent "killable"?

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:24 PM

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I guess always that he doesn't kill humans he doesn't feel like a murderer

rocky dirge Dec 11, 2020, 6:24 PM

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And Ares also feels the death of living things and applauds him for it

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:25 PM

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English is not my first language but I tend to understand murderer as someone who kills humans while "killer" would be the word for someone who kills animals

potent matrix Dec 11, 2020, 6:25 PM

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thats an interestign way to understand those words huh

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btw about artemis' and ares' differences, i love how different but similar their trial of the gods fightingstyles are

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:29 PM

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I couldn't say, I make a point in avoiding them two in particular when it's about trials

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I am ✨ scared ✨

rocky dirge Dec 11, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Aphro is way worse

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:32 PM

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I am still waiting for when I get an Ares Aphrodite duo boon, hasn't happened so far

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they are my Olympian OTP

rocky dirge Dec 11, 2020, 6:32 PM

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I can do EM4 any day, but dodge a very slow moving projectile? No way

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:32 PM

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and they have not delivered

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I want them to comment on each other but it doesn't seem to happen

rocky dirge Dec 11, 2020, 6:32 PM

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shut temple I want them to comment on each other but it doesn't seem to happen

Are you sure you're fulfilling the prerequisite boons?

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:33 PM

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most likely I am not

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I am playing blind

potent matrix Dec 11, 2020, 6:33 PM

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rocky dirge I can do EM4 any day, but dodge a very slow moving projectile? No way

same

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it and poseidon stun me for whatever reason

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:33 PM

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everything happens very slowly in my game because of it 🤣

potent matrix Dec 11, 2020, 6:33 PM

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i really cant do em, but 20 heat? heck yeah

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:34 PM

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~~added to the fact I am not great at the game yet I refuse to activate God's mode~~

rocky dirge Dec 11, 2020, 6:35 PM

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shut temple I am playing blind

You can just look at the codex man

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It tells you all the prereqs for all boons...

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:36 PM

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very blind I insist :V

rocky dirge Dec 11, 2020, 6:36 PM

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So blind you hang around the spoiler channel

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:36 PM

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I will check them next time I play, I promise

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hey I needed to express my astonishment at the Orphic hymns reference

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mind you, I got the game because of Orpheus

rocky dirge Dec 11, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Dont think that counts as a spoiler, really. Probably safe to discuss in the general chat

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:39 PM

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I came here instead of going to general because it was a huge surprise for me and I wouldn't want to ruin it for someone else, even if the amount of players aware of the difference between orphic cult sources and the hesiod theogony isn't likely to be big

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I presume there will be a similar twist to explain why Demeter insists she's not Chronos' daughter, even if all the sources indicate she is

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or all I am aware of, at least

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I am not a Greek myth scholar, I just like the subject

rocky dirge Dec 11, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Do you know who persephone's father is, in the game, yet?

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Nope

rocky dirge Dec 11, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Well, that might clue you in on what SGG wanted for this particular interpretation of the pantheon

shut temple Dec 11, 2020, 6:48 PM

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looking forward to it zagluv

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just gotta gid gud ~~and read the information the game provides to help me~~

marsh sun Dec 11, 2020, 7:27 PM

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||Oh no, Asterius and Thesus and buddies again. Also are they romantically involved sus , Asterius said that Zagreus will never understand their bond||

somber estuary Dec 11, 2020, 7:35 PM

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I don't think it's outright stated to be romantic but they have some form of love for sure.

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The kind of friendship that can only be expressed by throwing your bro headfirst into your mutual rival.

agile iris Dec 11, 2020, 7:38 PM

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They have a deep, deep love we are not meant to understand

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they're definitely married (heh) but whether it's romantic is up to interpretation LOL

somber estuary Dec 11, 2020, 7:41 PM

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The kind of love where the only significant event in your life is fighting some dude who broke into your house and broke your sister's heart but he kills you and you go to hell but then he comes and finds you and asks if you'd rather split a flat with him in the upper east side the rent is unbelievably low and there's this nice bistro around the corner with this fabulously rustic greek influence.

agile iris Dec 11, 2020, 7:48 PM

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somber estuary The kind of love where the only significant event in your life is fighting some ...

Gay culture zagluv zaglol

But all seriousness what else should we think if they give the same backstory to the king and Bull that they do to the two actual romantic partners Patroclus and Achilles

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Does anyone ever think about what the game might have looked like if they went with their original choice for the story - Theseus?

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I imagine the hell levels would have basically been the labyrinth but with added bits

void pier Dec 11, 2020, 7:55 PM

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So I'm gathering a good amount of keys, but I unlocked all the arms and mirror stuff. Is it just a trading item at the broker now?

agile iris Dec 11, 2020, 7:55 PM

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void pier So I'm gathering a good amount of keys, but I unlocked all the arms and mirror s...

Keys can be used for trade but also when you gather them || for changing boon or room choices with random rolls||

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Fated Choice and Fated Persuasion essentially

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also like.... a cosmetic upgrade at some point

void pier Dec 11, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Yes, I do gather them for the reroll chances. Just been accumulating them and realized I really can't spend them anymore.

agile iris Dec 11, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Yep, right now I just use them for trade until I complete all necessary upgrades for the weapons (I have like two left to fully upgrade) and then the rest I'll spend on that cosmetic upgrade for the interface designs

void pier Dec 11, 2020, 7:57 PM

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I'm still requiring lots of nectar, I only beat a run once

agile iris Dec 11, 2020, 7:58 PM

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oh well then the keys will definitely be needed for nectar trade

open berry Dec 11, 2020, 8:05 PM

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agile iris Does anyone ever think about what the game might have looked like if they went w...

closest answer to that #ask-supergiant message

modest vine Dec 11, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Do I get something from giving nectar to bouldy?

rocky dirge Dec 11, 2020, 8:16 PM

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A boon!

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Check your boon screen for a surprise

neat crow Dec 11, 2020, 8:24 PM

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More importantly, you get the satisfaction of being friends with Bouldy (and avoid cursing your run)

agile iris Dec 11, 2020, 8:52 PM

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rocky dirge Check your boon screen for a surprise

I had no idea and I've just been giving Bouldy nectars for giggles

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I'm so dumb but I'm happy to know this

pearl lantern Dec 11, 2020, 8:54 PM

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What is the amount of wins you need to get the credits to roll for the first time? That was an incredible moment by the way.

agile iris Dec 11, 2020, 9:06 PM

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pearl lantern What is the amount of wins you need to get the credits to roll for the first tim...

I think it was 10 clears iirc

modest vine Dec 11, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Yes it's 10

pearl lantern Dec 11, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Thank you

marsh sun Dec 11, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Sorry to ruin it ||Sisyphus is a crafty dude and probably just drinks all the nectar you are giving bouldy||

agile iris Dec 11, 2020, 10:05 PM

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marsh sun Sorry to ruin it ||Sisyphus is a crafty dude and probably just drinks all the ne...

😢

atomic forge Dec 11, 2020, 10:06 PM

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so what

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bouldy still believes in you

potent matrix Dec 11, 2020, 10:09 PM

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marsh sun Sorry to ruin it ||Sisyphus is a crafty dude and probably just drinks all the ne...

to this: does anybody still have access to the fanart of sisyphus thinking of how to get more nectar out of zag, saying to give it to bouldy and zag just throwing all his nectar inventory at the boulder eventually smashing it?

agile iris Dec 11, 2020, 10:09 PM

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potent matrix to this: does anybody still have access to the fanart of sisyphus thinking of ho...

just pouring one out for Bouldy =)))

potent matrix Dec 11, 2020, 10:09 PM

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always <3

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even if i am trying to farm for the ||woodland theme||

potent matrix Dec 11, 2020, 10:19 PM

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potent matrix to this: does anybody still have access to the fanart of sisyphus thinking of ho...

BROTHERS I FOUND THE FANART

agile iris Dec 11, 2020, 10:47 PM

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potent matrix BROTHERS I FOUND THE FANART

show us!!!!!!

agile iris Dec 11, 2020, 10:48 PM

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potent matrix even if i am trying to farm for the ||woodland theme||

it is unfortunate that the theme I want requires all the titan blood =))))) but I'm almost done needing them so... soon....

marsh sun Dec 11, 2020, 11:55 PM

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||Can I lift the heracles weights with practice?||

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||Just like how I learned to play the lyre||

potent matrix Dec 11, 2020, 11:56 PM

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marsh sun ||Can I lift the heracles weights with practice?||

nope i wanna say they are just glued to the ground cause house contractor could do you like that

marsh sun Dec 11, 2020, 11:56 PM

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ah ok, I thought maybe it was a quest but then nothing showed up in the list so it makes sense.

potent matrix Dec 11, 2020, 11:57 PM

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it's as much of a prank as the lonely board games

rocky lily Dec 11, 2020, 11:57 PM

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||i have the prophesy to get to know the gods better||

potent matrix Dec 11, 2020, 11:58 PM

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i would rather play board games with ||the romanceable people|| then lay with them tbh...

rocky lily Dec 11, 2020, 11:58 PM

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thats some hella ace vibes

potent matrix Dec 11, 2020, 11:58 PM

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being ace kinda makes me uncomfy thinking about the laying but it's a game so i guess thats fine

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and greek mythology

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lot of layage to be happening

upbeat willow Dec 11, 2020, 11:58 PM

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Ngl would liked the platonic options to have that tbh

potent matrix Dec 11, 2020, 11:59 PM

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rocky lily ||i have the prophesy to get to know the gods better||

did you max any of them?

rocky lily Dec 11, 2020, 11:59 PM

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max necter yea

potent matrix Dec 11, 2020, 11:59 PM

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and ambrosia?

rocky lily Dec 11, 2020, 11:59 PM

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havent been able to give any ambrosia

potent matrix Dec 11, 2020, 11:59 PM

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i had like 4 on total max when i got the next prophecy

storm river Dec 11, 2020, 11:59 PM

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You need to do their favors too

rocky lily Dec 11, 2020, 11:59 PM

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ah
ill go look up their favors then

potent matrix Dec 11, 2020, 11:59 PM

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not all

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 12:00 AM

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You can guess what kind of favor it is by what they're god of

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:00 AM

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since some cant be maxed before ||epilogue||

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:01 AM

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upbeat willow Ngl would liked the platonic options to have that tbh

wouldve loved a romance option without the lay too, with them maybe askking to come by for a bit of board game? but i'm already so happy with everything representing lgbtq+ already so it's just wishful praying hah

rocky lily Dec 12, 2020, 12:01 AM

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potent matrix wouldve loved a romance option without the lay too, with them maybe askking to c...

||you must love dusa then||

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:01 AM

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yesnt

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i love the aro representation but i still love me some romance hah

rocky lily Dec 12, 2020, 12:02 AM

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ah

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:02 AM

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like even friend-dates with dusa

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i wouldve loved that so much

rocky lily Dec 12, 2020, 12:02 AM

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||just came across some dusa dialogue with hella trans vibes||

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 12:02 AM

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they're greek gods, they don't care about monogamy

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except for hades himself but then, zag isn't like his father

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:03 AM

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but it's ok the way it is, i am so very insanely thankful for the representation of nonbinary, bi/pan relationships and aro/a bit of ace with artemis too

upbeat willow Dec 12, 2020, 12:03 AM

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The poly rep is something you don't see much at all

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 12:03 AM

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I thought the Artemis-Zeus duo dialogue made artemis quite lesbian coded

minor cliff Dec 12, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Quick question, why do some chaos boons last for 4 or more chambers?

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:03 AM

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i kinda assumed the poly wouldnt be just obvious to be a thing since like greek mythology and literally everythign achilles said about it

upbeat willow Dec 12, 2020, 12:03 AM

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To me it was ace/aro coded

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:03 AM

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minor cliff Quick question, why do some chaos boons last for 4 or more chambers?

they arent boons but challenges

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 12:04 AM

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since zeus is like, why don't you like any of the hunks I throw your way, and artemis is like, she'd rather hang out with her nymphs

upbeat willow Dec 12, 2020, 12:04 AM

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But it's very possible she's female facing bi

rocky lily Dec 12, 2020, 12:04 AM

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||zag asked about their body and they said
Um prince so look thats very private and i know you dont mean any harm but it isnt something i discus with people OK i am who i am||

minor cliff Dec 12, 2020, 12:04 AM

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But still, they last up to the end of the game with an implied 'reward'

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:04 AM

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i kinda took that as less of a trans thing and more of a "i like being just a head"

minor cliff Dec 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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stay ahead while you can

rocky lily Dec 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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idk
just seemed like something one of my trans friends would say

upbeat willow Dec 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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It can definitely be read both ways :3

agile iris Dec 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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storm river I thought the Artemis-Zeus duo dialogue made artemis quite lesbian coded

I think of them as ace lesbian, but that's interpretation ofc

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Anyone have any idea how to make Thanatos appear more often in the field so he can come to the house? Or is it just random? I am picking him as my romance option.

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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i never cared about the gender of the bodies so i just assumed dusa didnt want to have one at all....

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which i have mad respect for

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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It's random for thanatos to show

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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you go floating slither maid!!!!!!

agile iris Dec 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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atomic forge Anyone have any idea how to make Thanatos appear more often in the field so he c...

random unfortunately. I don't think the pierced butterfly makes him more likely to appear?

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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However, I heard if you want a chance for him to show, you need to take some damage in the chambers before

minor cliff Dec 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Speaking of dusa, for her favor is it all the lounge upgrades, like even the stupid expensive ones?

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Just most of them

rocky lily Dec 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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atomic forge Anyone have any idea how to make Thanatos appear more often in the field so he c...

||you can go for all of them and theres no consequeces||

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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You don't need to get the ones with the diamonds

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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agile iris I think of them as ace lesbian, but that's interpretation ofc

artemis-aphro dialogue is kinda bi/pan ace heavy after you know of the ||callisto|| stuff

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 12:07 AM

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rocky lily ||you can go for all of them and theres no consequeces||

Oh. Good to know. Thanks mate!

rocky lily Dec 12, 2020, 12:09 AM

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artemis is sworn to be ace in the myths

upbeat willow Dec 12, 2020, 12:09 AM

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I'm really impressed by how well the LGBTQIA+ rep is handled, it feels natural and implemented incredibly well for the most part

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:09 AM

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yes

rocky lily Dec 12, 2020, 12:10 AM

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wym by for the most part?

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:10 AM

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the most important part of the lgbtqia+ representation is that you legit forget about it, it isnt just screaming I AM GAY CHARACTER at you and running away

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it's a part of the npc without being their only trait

rocky lily Dec 12, 2020, 12:11 AM

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||i love how achillies and pats relationship is handled||

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||it just feels like a normal thing||

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:11 AM

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ikr!

upbeat willow Dec 12, 2020, 12:11 AM

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I have a gripe with how dusa's lead up mostly, the outcome I love, just the lead up to that I have issue with

rocky lily Dec 12, 2020, 12:12 AM

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that makes sense

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seemed like it was kinda obvious to me tho

upbeat willow Dec 12, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Morso how zag comes on incredibly strong to dusa seemingly out of nowhere

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:13 AM

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the ||achilles patty love|| never feels forced like it's only there to get lgbtqia+ rep but more like, yeah people fall in love without it being important of when where and who

agile iris Dec 12, 2020, 12:13 AM

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I just love how dramatic they are

rocky lily Dec 12, 2020, 12:13 AM

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||risk it all||

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 12:14 AM

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achilles was very dramatic in life too

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:14 AM

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rocky lily ||risk it all||

i dont want to know the context of it being used for the very first time

rocky lily Dec 12, 2020, 12:14 AM

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||they literally mixed their ashes thats hella dramatic||

agile iris Dec 12, 2020, 12:14 AM

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||Pat|| being like WE MYRMIDONS AREN'T THE EMOTIONAL SORT even tho I keep rolling up on him mumbling sadly about his husband every time I come over

rocky lily Dec 12, 2020, 12:14 AM

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||and historians said they were just good friends for hundreds of years||

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 12:14 AM

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he was moping in his tent, then patroclus disguised himself as achilles, dies, and achilles gets so mad he angers a river spirit because of all the bodies he kills

agile iris Dec 12, 2020, 12:15 AM

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bros being bros

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 12:15 AM

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I think it was because of some slave girl in the original mythos? Not sure tho

agile iris Dec 12, 2020, 12:15 AM

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cousins in that terrible Troy movie

rocky lily Dec 12, 2020, 12:15 AM

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they did a sailor moon?

agile iris Dec 12, 2020, 12:15 AM

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storm river I think it was because of some slave girl in the original mythos? Not sure tho

I believe Hector (?) took a slave girl from him and he got mad so wouldn't fight for him

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:15 AM

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rocky lily ||and historians said they were just good friends for hundreds of years||

to be fair, they ARE cousins

rocky lily Dec 12, 2020, 12:16 AM

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are they?

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:16 AM

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According to their lineage, Achilles and Patroclus were related to each other through a nymph called Aegina. After being raped by Zeus, Aegina gave birth to Aeacus, whose son, Peleus, was the father of Achilles. The same Aegina also married a mortal man called Actor, whose son was Menoetius, the father of Patroclus. Based on this, Achilles and Patroclus were first-cousins once removed.

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sweet home alabama

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 12:16 AM

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tbf, orpheus and eurydice are both children of apollo

rocky lily Dec 12, 2020, 12:16 AM

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eh
it doesnt count if its with a nymph

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:16 AM

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storm river tbf, orpheus and eurydice are both children of apollo

rarely ever

agile iris Dec 12, 2020, 12:16 AM

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and there's the incest!

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It's everywhere

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lolol

rocky lily Dec 12, 2020, 12:16 AM

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gods get exceptions to the incest

upbeat willow Dec 12, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Except not in Hades the video game ajfingerguns

agile iris Dec 12, 2020, 12:17 AM

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there was a lot of incest for a culture where incest was fairly frowned upon

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:17 AM

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there are more myths about eurydice NOT being a woodnymph than with any of them being related to apollo

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Yeah, finding presents for baby showers on mount olympus must be rough

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:17 AM

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just get more ambrosia

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 12:18 AM

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because then you have to find presents for a matched set of twins that are anthropomorphic personifications

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:18 AM

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most greek gods like to lay horizontally and drink, just get the bar going and the baby showers are perfect

slow edge Dec 12, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Which gods do you need affinity with for the epilogue?

potent matrix Dec 12, 2020, 12:37 AM

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it doesnt matter which, more tht you have some maxed i'd say

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there are no requirements of maxed totally or even maxed nectar

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 12:37 AM

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||Demeter|| can't be fully maxed out until after the epilogue

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But if you get her up to the locked heart, it counts

lapis smelt Dec 12, 2020, 12:58 AM

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I only have... Athena Maxed. But i'm still working on things so that should be fine.

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Just cleared the main story

open finch Dec 12, 2020, 2:57 AM

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~~Than wanted to be Patroclus levels of angst but it's hard when you grew up with happy bois-Zag and Hypnos~~

somber estuary Dec 12, 2020, 3:25 AM

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thanthink

somber estuary Dec 12, 2020, 3:28 AM

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slow edge Which gods do you need affinity with for the epilogue?

I think you need to have all the "Olympians" maxed or near max? I've never had the requirements laid out for me by someone in the know. I just know that I had to get all of them really high and that I had already gone as far as mom and dad would let me before I finally got the prompt.

pearl lantern Dec 12, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Tisiphone said my name!!!

prime mulch Dec 12, 2020, 4:01 AM

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slow edge Which gods do you need affinity with for the epilogue?

check the pins

peak pumice Dec 12, 2020, 4:41 AM

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pearl lantern Tisiphone said my name!!!

Mmm... Mmmmrr

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@somber estuary all? Can i just pick one fav gods to max? I like artemis

open berry Dec 12, 2020, 4:43 AM

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considering the conflict at hand, no :)

somber estuary Dec 12, 2020, 4:50 AM

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||According to the pins I found that the exact requirement is any 6 relationships categorized as Olympians (presumably the Olympians page in the Codex encapsulates all these for obvious reasons) must be at maximum, which as far as I can tell includes their locked heart quest EXCEPT for Demeter which specifically was mentioned earlier to not require the locked heart because it does not even unlock until after the epilogue. Also the pinned guide does specify that she still counts towards the 6 Olympians requirement as long as you get her to just before the lock.||

red imp Dec 12, 2020, 5:53 AM

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I just beat Hades, am I safe to be here now or is there more to see?

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oh thanks

neat crow Dec 12, 2020, 6:01 AM

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I would generally avoid this channel unless you've at least seen the credits

minor cliff Dec 12, 2020, 6:25 AM

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So quick question, why havent i been seeing eurydice? Its been over 15 runs i think since i last encountered her

dire torrent Dec 12, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Yeah, it’s just rolling rooms poorly

minor cliff Dec 12, 2020, 6:26 AM

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I was just wondering cause my orpheous quest has ground to a halt

dire torrent Dec 12, 2020, 6:28 AM

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Yeah, it just takes some time occasionally

minor cliff Dec 12, 2020, 6:29 AM

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So another question, who do i have to hunt down to get the aspects for stygius, aegis, and the rail?

somber estuary Dec 12, 2020, 6:29 AM

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There's about 20 important things after the first time you send dad home early. Oh who am I kidding, every little bit of dialogue is important in this game.

dire torrent Dec 12, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Hidden aspects prereqs are in pins

somber estuary Dec 12, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Yeah I was trying to remember without consulting the pins. I don't actually remember most of the conversations about the hidden aspects. I'm pretty sure it was Nyx, Chaos, and Zeus respectively for those.

minor cliff Dec 12, 2020, 6:32 AM

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friendly

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Thank you

pearl lantern Dec 12, 2020, 7:12 AM

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I love this game 😆
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/766116526003978240/787215248037642250/PXL_20201212_071146707.jpg

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 7:36 AM

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It cracks me up how Ares fanboys over Thanatos, Nyx and still worships Chaos. Lad just want a new family so bad haha

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Playing back through Hell Mode and going through the Dusa/Nyx story.

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It still rubs me the wrong way same as when I first played through it.

pure rune Dec 12, 2020, 7:43 AM

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@atomic forge I mean, if my dad told me how much he'd be OK with killing me and not regretting it right after I went up to him complaining about how my sister gave me a major stomach wound that I was still suffering when I told him about it, I'd want a new family too

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 7:44 AM

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I know right, even in the game he tells Zagreus he'd rather have him as a son like come on. Pretty sure in mythology too Hera told him something along the lines of you suck and I hate you

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And he did live away from Olympus, in Thrace

open berry Dec 12, 2020, 7:53 AM

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cracks knuckles, hey yall ever think about the fact that in most of your interactions with the olympians, whether they are commenting about ares or speaking to him in a duo, most of the remarks range from subtle to blatant jabs at ares and he never reacts to any of it and you just have to wonder if hes so used to it he ignores it??

i think about it a lot

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 7:55 AM

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Except Aphrodite. When you get duo of these two it's just extremely uncomfortable badly hidden hints at the fact that they are shagging

dire torrent Dec 12, 2020, 7:55 AM

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~~I mean it’s relatable if nothing else~~

open berry Dec 12, 2020, 7:56 AM

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https://twitter.com/vengefulwar/status/1319117289153728512 feels

Ares, War God (@vengefulwar)

You shall not goad me into anger with a petty insult such as this, you know. Nevertheless, there is a price which must be paid for it.

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Honestly, that's just Greek mythology in a nutshell, they are always throwing shades at him but in the vast majority of the myths he is in (I'd say except Adonis') he isn't being petty or crazy like them

open berry Dec 12, 2020, 7:59 AM

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thats why hes my fav olympian, outside of representing the brutality of war hes comparatively not that bad. but of course, being war and all the bad that comes with it, hes inherently hated

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 8:00 AM

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Short end of the stick and all

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He gets his ass whooped in a lot of myths he is in too haha, makes you pity the guy a bit

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 9:40 AM

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Hey, is there anything I need to do to reunite orpheus and eurydice? I've maxed them both out on nectar and am on like over 20 clears...

odd fox Dec 12, 2020, 9:42 AM

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ugh, my hearts about to break

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i dont wanna kill skelly

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but i got the means to do it at a press of a button

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do i go for the free stuff?

steep quiver Dec 12, 2020, 9:43 AM

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If you can live with the consequences

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squirtyay

odd fox Dec 12, 2020, 9:44 AM

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😅

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upgraded the wrong artifact

ebon ermine Dec 12, 2020, 9:45 AM

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atomic forge Hey, is there anything I need to do to reunite orpheus and eurydice? I've maxed ...

Yes you can, keep playing and keep talking

odd fox Dec 12, 2020, 9:46 AM

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also not asking for a direct answer or anything, just a hint/nudge

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but how do i learn music from orpheus?

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 9:46 AM

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Keep playing the lyre between runs!

odd fox Dec 12, 2020, 9:46 AM

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what lyre?

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thanthink

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 9:47 AM

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Oh! At some point there going to be the option for you to buy one for your bedroom I think. You might need to get a specific convo with orpheus first

odd fox Dec 12, 2020, 9:48 AM

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oh

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i just ignored the cosmetics mostly

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 9:48 AM

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Some of them are important aha!

odd fox Dec 12, 2020, 9:49 AM

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ONE KEY SHORT

steep quiver Dec 12, 2020, 9:52 AM

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@odd fox if it helps, I will say that I was being sarcastic

slow edge Dec 12, 2020, 11:03 AM

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@somber estuary Thank you

slow edge Dec 12, 2020, 11:06 AM

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odd fox i just ignored the cosmetics mostly

What do you mean? You're missing out on the main aspect of the game 😢

odd fox Dec 12, 2020, 11:12 AM

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grinding for nector

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 11:12 AM

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My favourite cosmetic thing is ||putting that huge ass portrait of yourself right next to Hades' chambers||

weary seal Dec 12, 2020, 11:56 AM

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So how exactly do I get the door unlocked to the right of Achilles?

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Yes

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So, kill hades a lot?

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I've only killed him 3 times so

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But it's surprisingly easy now that I've killed him once

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Does beating the game at max heat even do anything?

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Oh haha

frozen jolt Dec 12, 2020, 12:13 PM

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It just gives you bragging rights, but no one has done it on this current patch

solar prairie Dec 12, 2020, 12:13 PM

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpCEeccXYAIznct?format=png&name=900x900

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woop woop

frozen jolt Dec 12, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Congrats!

fervent skiff Dec 12, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Congrats on making it this far

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 12:56 PM

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Yeah he does that on the ||tenth run||

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It cracks me up that he still drops titan blood when he does that like wtf man

fervent skiff Dec 12, 2020, 1:02 PM

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Congrats once again!

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 1:04 PM

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||congratulations now that you have solved one relationship problem, the rest of the world expects you to solve theirs||

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Yeah I was surprised too, and wondering if that meant I had nothing left to do

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Oh boy I was wrong

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Yeah

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I'm so close too but they just...Won't

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At that rate the first thing I'll manage to do is free Sisyphus and I don't even WANT that!

ebon ermine Dec 12, 2020, 2:03 PM

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There's quite a bit of back and forth

spare remnant Dec 12, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Have you two ( @atomic forge and @wild bay ) heard Patroclus say the phrase “risk it all”?

Have you unlocked the Admin chamber?

Also, have you been completing plot points that have taken priority for Achilles and Nyx (such as beating up ||your dad|| successfully?)

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Yep and yep, I definitely feel like I'm close, Achilles said he was gonna think about it

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And I'm just here like goddamn do it you absolute gay disaster, even I managed to hook up with a guy who runs away two sentences in a conversation

spare remnant Dec 12, 2020, 3:49 PM

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So then yeah, you’re just waiting on dialogue from Patroclus, then

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Then a follow up with Achilles. And then talking to Nyx whenever she isn’t busy with plot points

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I think Nyx being involved in almost every major plot is extra frustrating when you have like 8 things finishing at once while you’re also hitting Credits or Epilogue

somber estuary Dec 12, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Well, since Nyx is my favorite character I enjoy having every opportunity to talk with her after each run. So that's a good problem to have.

weary cloak Dec 12, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Reminds me

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It took me 20 runs complete dusa because nyx decided start a new plot point with her

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Into it decided do the one I wanted half way

warm summit Dec 12, 2020, 5:51 PM

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spare remnant I think Nyx being involved in almost every major plot is extra frustrating when ...

yeah; I wanted to finish Achilles and just couldn't get his contract because Nyx kept being away or talking about other things

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none of the other things had a reward tied to them

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Achilles was the last one to finish for me because of Patroclus rng

warm summit Dec 12, 2020, 5:55 PM

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yeah, he was my last too. Way after the epilogue even.

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Which was why I was so frustrated by the added Nyx delay hahaha

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 6:00 PM

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warm summit yeah; I wanted to finish Achilles and just _couldn't get his contract_ because N...

This is a big reason to not actually complete Nyx's quest until you've done literally everything else

warm summit Dec 12, 2020, 6:00 PM

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it was actually a thing with Dusa that got in my way

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I'd finished Nyx long before I even got to the point of needing her for Achilles >< ...I was very very slow on Achilles

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 6:11 PM

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I just want to reunite my boys!

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I'm less keen on reuniting orpheus and eurydice because, well, I'm in love with he tree lady but oh well

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 6:30 PM

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The only quest I'm less keen on is helping Sisyphus because I'm way too invested in Greek mythology and he deserves his punishment, here

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Also I just reunited crummy adoptive primordial grandpa with adoptive primordial mum so that's very nice

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Oh yeah. Same about sisyphus, but ya know

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How is the whole thing compatible with being close friends/dating Thanatos anyway, can't imagine he'd be super happy about it

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Honestly haha. Pretty sure they're a reason they left it ambiguous

somber estuary Dec 12, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Chaos is your great grandpa and also your step grandma.

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I really like Chaos, they're strange and they have little bits of commentary on stuff that other characters aren't around for.

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I'm not sure if it's the cosmic egg or the chaos aspect or both that activate Chaos commentary because I'm frequently carrying both.

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 7:07 PM

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He is quite the chatterbox in general

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Speaking of disturbing family ties, I don't think it's in the game (and maybe that's for the best 'cause it's low key haunting me) the other day I realized Ares was both Dyonisus' of course half brother but also his great grandpa

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(And Aphrodite is his great grandma, but also has at least one kid with him, i'm pretty sure)

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Greek mythology family trees tend to be family wreaths I guess

storm pond Dec 12, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Maybe a dumb question but how do I know when I've gotten to the epilogue? I'm about 15 complete runs in after the credits and not sure how much more story I still have to progress. Are there second credits or something?

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 7:20 PM

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You'll know it when you see it

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You get some cutscenes showing stuff

storm pond Dec 12, 2020, 7:20 PM

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How many more runs would you say it takes to get there?

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Eh, it varies, because it's not dependent on number of runs

storm pond Dec 12, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Ok thanks 😄

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 7:30 PM

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atomic forge How is the whole thing compatible with being close friends/dating Thanatos anywa...

I mean, if you've been talking to Sisyphus, he constantly mentions that he totally deserves the punishment

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 7:30 PM

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I meant Thanatos might not be super happy about it, not Sisyphus

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Fairly sure Sisyphus would be happier with anything other than his punishment, even though he thinks he deserves it haha

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Gods are surprisingly lenient. If Hera still puts up with Zeus...

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 7:32 PM

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atomic forge Fairly sure Sisyphus would be happier with anything other than his punishment, e...

Again, you'll find answers to this if you continue his storyline

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 7:32 PM

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that's why she takes out her anger on his children, not him

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he's too powerful for hera to punish for his affairs

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 7:32 PM

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For excrement, my bad

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But yeah I ll still continue his storyline anyway 'cause I want to max out the game haha

marsh umbra Dec 12, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Man, everyone gives Orpheus such a hard time for looking back.

somber estuary Dec 12, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Nobody gives Orpheus a harder time than Orpheus.

marsh umbra Dec 12, 2020, 8:13 PM

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True

signal swan Dec 12, 2020, 8:38 PM

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So I have a question about the secret boss fight. How do I trigger it again? I’ve maxed out all but Persephone’s relationships now and I’m not sure what to do from here

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 8:40 PM

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...You mean Charon? There's a 22% chance for the bag to appear in a mid-biome shop

signal swan Dec 12, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Wait HE’s the secret boss?

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I already fought him multiple times

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I though I was supposed to fight Demeter?

somber estuary Dec 12, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Ha if anything you would join Demeter and beat up your unruly uncle.

signal swan Dec 12, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Lel

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I’m guessing that means all that’s left is the Pact

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And Extreme measures

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 8:43 PM

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signal swan I though I was supposed to fight Demeter?

??????

signal swan Dec 12, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Well with Persephone going back up I had heard rumors that Demeter would be a boss

somber estuary Dec 12, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Is this secret boss thing you're trying to activate some sort of achievement?

signal swan Dec 12, 2020, 8:44 PM

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No I was just curious

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 8:44 PM

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There's no secret boss beyond dad

signal swan Dec 12, 2020, 8:44 PM

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I mean I basically finished the game I’m trying to figure out what all I need to do to complete it

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 8:44 PM

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If you've done the epilogue, that's it. You're done.

signal swan Dec 12, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Oh

somber estuary Dec 12, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Because I know Extreme Measures doesn't activate an entire new boss but it does have the potential to add a character not normally participating to a different boss fight.

signal swan Dec 12, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Right Hades summons a sub-boss with phase 3 right?

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 8:45 PM

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He does.... lots of things

signal swan Dec 12, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Lol

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Wait, have you done the epilogue without doing EM4?

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Damn

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Cant imagine playing the game that much without turning up the heat

signal swan Dec 12, 2020, 8:46 PM

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I was systematically doing the pacts with each weapon

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Rather than focusing on going as hot as possible

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 8:46 PM

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EM4 is so fun I just left it on while playing even if I was under the limit

somber estuary Dec 12, 2020, 8:47 PM

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What doesn't Hades do? I mean, besides openly show his efforts to build a more positive relationship with his son?

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That, no miracle or boon can accomplish.

signal swan Dec 12, 2020, 8:47 PM

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I’m about to go for 8 with Excal at some point but I’ll hit 7 with the other weapons before hand

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Really it’s getting used to stuff like Lucifer which is the real problem ugh

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And maxing out what I can

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Persephone only needs 1 ambrosia to max out right?

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I haven’t been using all of mine in the event it’s like Dusa’s story

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Yes

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Dusa is the only one that ramps up like that

signal swan Dec 12, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Ok so I can use 4 out of my 5 then

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Everyone else is one per heart

somber estuary Dec 12, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Luci with the curse squad Dio Aphro Grandma and Ares is my favorite attempted build

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Just gotta roll the boons that let them stack better

signal swan Dec 12, 2020, 8:50 PM

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At some point I should share my build cause I don’t really know how to optimize yet

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Hm.. well one thing I can say for sure is I’ve been using Privileged Status

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I prefer using it since it doesn’t require a lot of boons

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most of the time anyways

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 8:51 PM

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FF doesnt require a lot of boons

somber estuary Dec 12, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Privileged is great since I love curse backstab anyway

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Just... one per god

somber estuary Dec 12, 2020, 8:51 PM

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FF you will almost always get the full effect

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Five boons definitely isnt a lot, lol

signal swan Dec 12, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Well yeah it’s like decu said

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 8:52 PM

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If you think five boons is a lot, then you REALLY need to be taking more boons

somber estuary Dec 12, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Since 4 base slots plus 1 more for a total of 5 from Hermes and even one more olympian using keepsake manipulation

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FF can't go to 6 stacks even if you get 5 base olympians plus Hermes? Or can it? I honestly don't know.

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 8:58 PM

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It can, yes

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So you could in theory boost it to 35%

tawdry dew Dec 12, 2020, 9:28 PM

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This might be a really dumb question but like.. is dusa supposed to be Medusa?

somber estuary Dec 12, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Haha don't be silly! That sweet charming maid, Dusa, a legendary Gorgon?

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DusaSticker

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 9:31 PM

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tawdry dew This might be a really dumb question but like.. is dusa supposed to be Medusa?

Say "Maid Dusa" really fast

tawdry dew Dec 12, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Okay I thought so I just didnt want to sound dumb for it and to be an entirely different gorgon😩

rapid coral Dec 12, 2020, 9:50 PM

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was it ever established what Zagerus was the God of?

rocky dirge Dec 12, 2020, 9:52 PM

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He's the god of Hot Bois

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Also probably blood and life.

drifting citrus Dec 12, 2020, 9:55 PM

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and being bi

modest vine Dec 12, 2020, 9:56 PM

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In mythology or in the game?

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Achilles speculates he's the god of blood

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and also ships him with thanatos

modest vine Dec 12, 2020, 9:57 PM

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In mythology he's the God worshipped by he followers of Orphism

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And considered the "first Dionysus"

rapid coral Dec 12, 2020, 9:58 PM

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The central focus of Orphism is the suffering and death of the god Dionysus at the hands of the Titans, which forms the basis of Orphism's central myth

modest vine Dec 12, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Also there are 2 versions of him the one we know and in the other he's son of zeus but hera killed him in phorm of a Taurus

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As hades son... he's hades son

storm river Dec 12, 2020, 10:00 PM

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I vaguely remember hearing that was zeus disguised as hades

modest vine Dec 12, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Maybe idk

open berry Dec 12, 2020, 10:01 PM

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there's multiple variants of it

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as most mythos was passed along orally

modest vine Dec 12, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Sure thing is the game made Zagreus popular

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There was nothing interesting about him

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Same goes for Kratos in mythology he's just a guy that doesn't like zeus's decisions but always follows his orders with no exceptions

rapid coral Dec 12, 2020, 10:04 PM

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ya they did a good job with the research and the story in this game

modest vine Dec 12, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Yup that's true every character's story is somewhat canon with some changes and there are some nice mythology easter eggs

atomic forge Dec 12, 2020, 10:08 PM

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There is no "true" canon to Greek mythology, unless you only mean stuff written in ancient times.

modest vine Dec 12, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Yeah that's true my bad

prime mulch Dec 12, 2020, 10:09 PM

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there is no true canon since they dont exist in the first place

modest vine Dec 12, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Most of the times canon is considered by one person who wrote a lot about it but I don't know his name is in English only in Greek

sweet swift Dec 12, 2020, 10:43 PM

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||How many runs does it usually take until Persephone is back from chilling with Demeter? She’s the only one I haven’t had maxed hearts on?||

dire torrent Dec 12, 2020, 10:44 PM

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~~I mean canon as a concept is not great imo~~ plenty of interpretations for Greek myth, and I do love the ways Hades handles them

rapid gale Dec 12, 2020, 11:18 PM

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So, how do I get companions?

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I've heard that butterfly ball is balanced to punish you for not having one

modest vine Dec 12, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Extend your relationship with some characters

open berry Dec 12, 2020, 11:38 PM

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it'll be several notable npcs you interact with often, so make friends! but yeah the big butterfly is a bit of a dps check. you dont necessarily need a companion (as not all of them are offensive) but they certainly help if your build is lacking

weary seal Dec 13, 2020, 12:46 AM

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4th hades kill lmao

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I had the homing bow with like 5 extra volley shots

rocky dirge Dec 13, 2020, 1:12 AM

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rapid gale I've heard that butterfly ball is balanced to punish you for not having one

Is it? lol that's hilarious

rapid gale Dec 13, 2020, 1:13 AM

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I mean it more punishes you for bad damage builds

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And not having a damage companion is part of having bad damage in your build

upbeat willow Dec 13, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Not really

unique sluice Dec 13, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Butterflies are your companions now

upbeat willow Dec 13, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Just have unhealthy fixation and you too can have a butterfly companion for 4 seconds at a time

rocky dirge Dec 13, 2020, 1:15 AM

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rapid gale I mean it more punishes you for bad damage builds

Bosses do a good job of this on their own

flat beacon Dec 13, 2020, 1:38 AM

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I just want to say that the Orphism joke with Dionysus and Orpheus is hilarious

rocky dirge Dec 13, 2020, 1:41 AM

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flat beacon I just want to say that the Orphism joke with Dionysus and Orpheus is hilarious

You'll get a kick from Zeus' nectar dialogue, I bet

flat beacon Dec 13, 2020, 1:42 AM

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First nectar or a later one?

rocky dirge Dec 13, 2020, 1:43 AM

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I think the punchline is at the end of his bond

flat beacon Dec 13, 2020, 1:43 AM

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I look forward to that, then

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I also loved Theseus getting mad that you have the Yarn of Ariadne

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And Zagreus doesn't understand why he identifies so strongly with some random item he bought at a Well

pearl lantern Dec 13, 2020, 1:52 AM

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So is there a specific trigger to unlocking the god's last heart? Or is it just "talk to them a bunch"?

rocky dirge Dec 13, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Each has its own "quest" you have to do first

pearl lantern Dec 13, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Is their some way to deduce what that quest might be?

rocky dirge Dec 13, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Some of them the quest is indeed "talk to them a bunch", but a few others have specific tasks

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There's a pinned comment in thsi channel with the answer

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Some gods tell you what they want straight up though

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Most of the time it's reasonably related to normal gameplay

storm river Dec 13, 2020, 1:55 AM

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You can guess based on what they’re god of, usually

rocky dirge Dec 13, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Save Poseidon's which is super specific and finnicky for some reason

storm river Dec 13, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Aphrodite doesn’t want fish, she wants love!

pearl lantern Dec 13, 2020, 1:58 AM

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But... it's so difficult to get the rod of fishing legendary after the first time 😫

rocky dirge Dec 13, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Are you on switch? If not, you can just use poseidon's keepsake

smoky nacelle Dec 13, 2020, 3:44 AM

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so i already though chrustaceans were adorable

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but i just read their entry in the journal and oh my god

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sometimes they swim the shore in search of companionship?!

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I WANT ONEEEE

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they're so cuteee

pearl lantern Dec 13, 2020, 4:35 AM

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So what's the best way to secure the fishing legendary? Does having poseidon's keepsake guarantee the rod

drifting dirge Dec 13, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Can anybody here tell me why I can’t give Meg any Ambrosia? I have 6 hearts with her, she came to my room, and when I meet her in the lounge there’s no option to give her Ambrosia?

pearl lantern Dec 13, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Just wait. Trust me, you'll know when she's ready 😉

weary seal Dec 13, 2020, 4:48 AM

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So how do I do I romance Dusa? I gave her the 4 ambrosia and now she will just say one little quip after my runs

pearl lantern Dec 13, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Give it some time. She needs to think about everything you told her

weary seal Dec 13, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Time as in amount of runs or actual run time?

storm river Dec 13, 2020, 4:51 AM

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number of runs

pearl lantern Dec 13, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Yeah, just play the game and it will happen in due time

weary seal Dec 13, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Alright, thanks!!

coarse raptor Dec 13, 2020, 5:00 AM

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hmm I bought all the West Hall stuff but don't have a checkmark! what might I be missing? D:

pearl lantern Dec 13, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Maybe something comes later

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But tbh, I do not know the answer to this one

storm river Dec 13, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Did you buy every column type yet?

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I'm thinking maybe you're missing the ||fountain||

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but the prereq for that is a certain type of column

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 5:03 AM

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coarse raptor hmm I bought all the West Hall stuff but don't have a checkmark! what might I be...

have you maxed than, gotten ||sundial|| or ||Sculpture, Heroic||?

coarse raptor Dec 13, 2020, 5:04 AM

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eek. ||heroic sculpture and the fountain are what I'm missing. man, I felt so close! But that's another 4500 gems haha||

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 5:05 AM

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and the ||colums, divine|| then, good job already anyways!

storm river Dec 13, 2020, 5:05 AM

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I dunno why they made the prereq for that locked behind one type of column

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but at least you can switch columns

coarse raptor Dec 13, 2020, 5:05 AM

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yeah, weirdly hidden. that said, only a crazy person would wantto unlock everything - I doubt I'll do it, all my weapons are coming up on 20 heat

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 5:09 AM

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kinda weird that the ||column, divine|| that remind of olympus dont necessarily trigger the more pompous and olympus-worthy cosmetics

rotund onyx Dec 13, 2020, 5:21 AM

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||Question, the question that like.. Mom gives you to get closer to the Olympian, what if you never got that? But you finished the epilogue?||

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On switch version

weary seal Dec 13, 2020, 5:53 AM

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I have 10 hearts on Dusa. I've done a few runs now and I still have not been able to romance her. Do I need to give her more ambrosia?

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I'm wondering maybe if I have to upgrade my bed chambers or something?

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Damn, once orpheus starts singing again its very good, great music for this whole game

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But the voiced music has so much more love put in

weary seal Dec 13, 2020, 6:16 AM

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I died a few times on purpose and Dusa still has nothing important quest wise to say.

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 7:19 AM

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weary seal I'm wondering maybe if I have to upgrade my bed chambers or something?

Nah keep talking to her and it will happen

weary seal Dec 13, 2020, 7:21 AM

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I'm thinking maybe because of how hades works.. I have an ongoing quest of sorts and I need to finish that before continuing this one?

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 7:24 AM

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What quest?

weary seal Dec 13, 2020, 7:24 AM

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Dunno

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 7:25 AM

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I don't think it matters

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Dusa was late for me too

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After I gave her everything it was after 5+ conversations that she wanted to talk

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So just keep taking to her

weary seal Dec 13, 2020, 7:26 AM

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It's been over 10 for me..

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 7:27 AM

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I don't know then I'm sorry

upbeat willow Dec 13, 2020, 7:28 AM

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probably just RNG unfortunately

weary seal Dec 13, 2020, 8:45 AM

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Dusa just friendzoned me ok

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Well

livid shell Dec 13, 2020, 8:49 AM

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not really

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I mean she did but I feel like Zag would value her friendship as much as her romantic advances

upbeat willow Dec 13, 2020, 8:50 AM

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in fact he does

prime mulch Dec 13, 2020, 8:51 AM

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oh no, we talking at this again

upbeat willow Dec 13, 2020, 8:51 AM

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yeah, it seems like it happens every few days

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and thus I'll post this message from tatz which sums up dusa's 'romance' path perfectly
#h1-story-discussion message

somber estuary Dec 13, 2020, 9:22 AM

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DusaSticker

weary seal Dec 13, 2020, 9:35 AM

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I'm just saying it sucked because I think she's really cool and I thought she was a romance option

upbeat willow Dec 13, 2020, 9:36 AM

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Best Friends forever is pretty dope though bittie3

weary seal Dec 13, 2020, 9:37 AM

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Tbh yeah

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Killed hades for the sixth time now

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It's a joke with rapid fire homing bow

opal fulcrum Dec 13, 2020, 9:39 AM

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do it with the starter sword thing

weary seal Dec 13, 2020, 9:39 AM

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No

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Bow good

opal fulcrum Dec 13, 2020, 9:41 AM

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weary seal I'm wondering maybe if I have to upgrade my bed chambers or something?

I don't think I've gone that far in the game,so I am probably taking this wrong.but,okay.....

weary seal Dec 13, 2020, 9:41 AM

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Huh?

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 9:53 AM

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@weary seal its worth noting that all the other romance options can be taken at the same time without consequences\

weary seal Dec 13, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Well

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Since she gave me all my ambrosia back, I used some of it to upgrade my bow but I still have like 4 left

clever ruin Dec 13, 2020, 10:05 AM

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Bow is good up to a point

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You'll want to learn other weapons

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Chiron specifically falls off in high heat

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Not saying you can't but it's easier with Rail for example

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 10:06 AM

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is it just me or is chiron bow kinda bad

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the special just doesnt ever feel good

upbeat willow Dec 13, 2020, 10:07 AM

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what level do you have chiron bow at?

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it's kinda not great early but is pretty great once you get close to maxing it out (and by extension maxing it out)

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 10:13 AM

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i think its at level 2 or 3

upbeat willow Dec 13, 2020, 10:14 AM

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ahhh that makes sense

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 10:19 AM

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should i max it

upbeat willow Dec 13, 2020, 10:19 AM

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imo yes

heady rain Dec 13, 2020, 10:20 AM

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if you like melting an enemy from range (albeit a bit slow at dealing with crowds) chiron's your weapon

clever ruin Dec 13, 2020, 10:57 AM

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Chiron needs that max blood

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Aphro /dio or aphro/artemis

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 10:59 AM

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there are some weapons that only show off then maxed like chiron and chaos

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demeter too

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:00 AM

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i wish there was a way to get blood back

clever ruin Dec 13, 2020, 11:01 AM

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Ehh

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Blood is easy enough to get

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:05 AM

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yup you have 6 weapons you get 2 every run and you just need to add some heat you can buy some and exchange

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you can reach at least 6 heat easily with every weapon

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:06 AM

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true

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:08 AM

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So.. i spent 5 diamonds on the song "in the blood" expecting vocals, but its just instrumental

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Is there a way to hear it again properly?

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Do i need to finish orpheus' questline?

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:10 AM

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youtube

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:10 AM

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Bruh thats lame, then why have any songs over a diamond in cost

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:11 AM

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lol yeah I gave some diamonds to songs too but its ok ill get them back

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i want to unlock everything anyway

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:11 AM

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same

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already maxed lounge

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either gonna go for great hall or bedroom next

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:11 AM

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Yeah eventually, but i coulda used those diamonds elsewhere, i wish they had an explanation that its just instrumentals

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Like i coulda used that to get an equally useless green skull disco ball

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:14 AM

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well yeah it's good to keep always some diamonds for the characters. Since i think for everyone the achivements is one of the first priorities

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:14 AM

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diamonds for characters?

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:14 AM

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suspicious

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Is... that how you romance characters properly?

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Yknow besides drowning them in ambrosia

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:15 AM

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i
i dont think so

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:15 AM

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im not gonna tell you why bcs i dont wanna spoil

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:16 AM

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Fair enough

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:16 AM

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but some of them will need a couple of diamonds

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:16 AM

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So for the queens plan prophecy is it just give booze to the olympians until i get lock hearts?

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Or do i need to max out their keepsakes

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:17 AM

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not the keepsakes but i dont know exactly what im not finished with that yet

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:17 AM

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Oof

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:17 AM

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I guess you need to finish your relationship with all the gods

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:18 AM

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Ive just been turning my gems into nectar

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Bribery

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Not all my gems mind you

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But enough to where i could donate to each god or npc once per run

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:19 AM

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youh have to max 5 of them i think

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:19 AM

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well everything is useful and its gonna take time to make them useless so its just about what you prefer to do first

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:19 AM

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Yknow incase i run into any of the wild npcs that hang out in hell

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:20 AM

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5? im at 4...

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:20 AM

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nectar is usefull for a long time

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im almost done with nectar tho

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:20 AM

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Whatever the lockheart level is

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:20 AM

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I am done with nectar now only ambrosia

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:20 AM

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Lemme see what my god standing is

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:21 AM

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ima check how many nectar slots i have left

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:21 AM

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but there is a way to use it except exchange forever

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to bouldy

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:21 AM

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God save bouldy

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bouldy

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:22 AM

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looks like ive only got a couple for Charon left then my nectar days are over

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:23 AM

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yeah then only bouldy ❤️

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 11:26 AM

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I'm at 2 bonded Olympians and ready to strangle the rest of them as they won't let me give them ambrosia

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Just lemme buy my way to your heart with addictive substance come on

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:27 AM

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i feel your pain

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:27 AM

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yeah you need to do some stuff for them to... respect you?

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:27 AM

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ye

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 11:27 AM

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I have Zeus and Ares so far

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:27 AM

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i have dio and zeus

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 11:28 AM

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gotta bribe 'em all

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:28 AM

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im close to finishing aphros favor

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:28 AM

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wow what?

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what does Zeus need i dont have him yet

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:28 AM

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but i really wanna get arty

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get some boons before zues

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then zeus

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 11:28 AM

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I don't think he needed anything honestly 🤔

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:28 AM

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its dialogue rng

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 11:28 AM

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Ares asked me to murder 10K people like the stable person he is but that's it

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:28 AM

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i have dio posseidon aphro and athena

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:29 AM

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how do you get posiedon?

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 11:29 AM

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Do you have to do the fishing quest for Poseidon?

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:29 AM

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there is no quest

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just catch many fishes

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also i did the 10k prophecy but ares still isnt unlocked

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:30 AM

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i really wanna max arty

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but that just seems like pure dialogue rng

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:30 AM

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YOO

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 11:30 AM

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Ares takes a bit before letting you tell him about it

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:31 AM

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Eurydice just upgraded my side hustle to epic

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Awesome

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:31 AM

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thats awesome

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you should grab the hourglass in styx

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and buy up every well upgrade thats decent

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:34 AM

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Yknow thats actually a pretty good call

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:35 AM

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Alecto revealed Zagreus is god of Trash

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:35 AM

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Or... i could take hoarding slash and get OP

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:38 AM

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hoarding slash is also goo

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good

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probably a better call tbh

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:38 AM

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I swear, every arthur run is just pump attack and win

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:39 AM

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I dont like arthur

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:39 AM

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So far i mean

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Only 12 heat so far

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:39 AM

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its strong but not fun

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:40 AM

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Well... i play greatsword in monster hunter so this feels perfect for me

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:40 AM

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arthur run with deflect slash is fun

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:40 AM

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C H O N K Y damage numbers=dopamine

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:40 AM

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I see im more of a hit and dodge kind of player so i like fast weapons

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:43 AM

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One of these days ill have a hera run that starts with the demeter upgrade boon into the artemis seeker boon

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And i can die happy

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:46 AM

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lol we just speaked about it and ares last heart just git unlocked for me

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:48 AM

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I wish we got more shade fans in the arena the higher our win streak

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That would be a very nice touch

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:50 AM

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yes I agree

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I thought thats what's gonna happen

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each time you win +1 shade

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 11:50 AM

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i wish there was a nectar path with the loyal shade

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that would be better

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i wanna talk to em

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:51 AM

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HECC

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SMALL VERMIN

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Nvm

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Arthur stomps

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 11:53 AM

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finally every keepsake max rank

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this took forever

minor cliff Dec 13, 2020, 11:54 AM

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So i think ive noticed something

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If you get the dio boon for the fountains youll get one every floor

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Aight

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Here we go

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Extreme dad

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Damn...

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His voice cracked lol

fossil ravine Dec 13, 2020, 12:14 PM

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modest vine finally every keepsake max rank

Only achievement I haven't got!

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Guess who just got a certain contract to allow a certain musician to see his muse

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 12:15 PM

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fossil ravine Only achievement I haven't got!

well I started doing it almost right after i got the first 5

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now im missing only 5

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 12:18 PM

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atomic forge Guess who just got a certain contract to allow a certain musician to see his mus...

pog

supple linden Dec 13, 2020, 12:47 PM

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without telling me much, what is the last area, I've discovered Greece and there's still one left in the codex

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i don't care if minor spoilers

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 12:52 PM

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It's just a place with trials from hades you'll find out

supple linden Dec 13, 2020, 12:52 PM

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oh ok

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so we never go to the Olympus

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 12:54 PM

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nah :/

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but why did you want to get spoiled? wouldnt it be more interesting if you found out yourself?

supple linden Dec 13, 2020, 12:55 PM

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idk I was hoping we got to go further than greece

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nevertheless greece was amazing

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it was huge

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 12:59 PM

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i cant find skelly under greek mythology. who is he supposed to be? pls help, he is my fav npc

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:00 PM

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uhm I don't think he exists

grim kernel Dec 13, 2020, 1:00 PM

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other characters of note I believe

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 1:01 PM

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skelly is just skelly

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:01 PM

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he's a character made by supergiant

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 1:02 PM

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hes got a job to do boyo

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and hes gonna do it

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:04 PM

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ohh aww haha

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all of the npc is great but skelly is my fav. but awww he's not part of the greek mythos. o well

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i like how they do artemis in this game, her attitude is like those high school girls

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:06 PM

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She's very much not a high school girl, lol.

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 1:07 PM

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skelly could be based off the Spartoi?

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:07 PM

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She just wants to be left alone to hunt. Well, the nymphs can come. No one else. xD

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 1:07 PM

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since he talked about a "skeleton war" and that's the only note anyhow related to both mythology and warriors who rose out of the ground?

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:07 PM

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I love how she's the only one actually getting mad when you choose between gods the rest are like WHY DIDNT YOU CHOOSE ME?!?! and then haha ok let's forget it. She's like: tch since you are still alive get this whatever

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 1:08 PM

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but thats a very far rach since the spartoi were just mythical people and never really mentioned as cursed skeletons...

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Athena still seems mad afterwards too.

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:09 PM

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potent matrix since he talked about a "skeleton war" and that's the only note anyhow related t...

i just googled spartoi. It said that it was spawn by the dragons teeth. thats badass

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:09 PM

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modest vine I love how she's the only one actually getting mad when you choose between gods ...

like those yandere type

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 1:09 PM

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yes it is but they are stupid lol

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they just fought each other because of a rock ad almost all died

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:09 PM

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torpid vine Athena still seems mad afterwards too.

yep... but not aphro

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Athena is the mad lad

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the first bro

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:09 PM

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potent matrix they just fought each other because of a rock ad almost all died

ohh... damn.. that took a downward fro mbeing a badass

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 1:10 PM

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very big true

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honestly if you were athena wouldnt you be mad aswell? it was her who got all the gods together as nyx contacted her...

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Hermes is the best bro. Artie's cool though. They all are, in their own ways.

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:11 PM

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potent matrix honestly if you were athena wouldnt you be mad aswell? it was her who got all th...

oh she is? i tot zeus

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ok...

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 1:11 PM

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she couldve very well declined and left you down there to suffer 😂

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 1:12 PM

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peak pumice oh she is? i tot zeus

the first boon you get is athena's and after your first death you talk with nyx about how she reached out to athena

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it's one of the scribted dialogues

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Nyx did reach out to Athena, who convinced the others. Minus ||Hermes, who helps because of Charon.||

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:13 PM

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potent matrix the first boon you get is athena's and after your first death you talk with nyx ...

awww i always thought athena is a mother figure

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but still, what she did to medusa is dirty

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:13 PM

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Athena is very much NOT a mother figure.

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:13 PM

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sigh...

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 1:13 PM

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athena is the mother of the battlefield, i agree

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:13 PM

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torpid vine Athena is very much NOT a mother figure.

=.=

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Athena is a virgin goddess, a warrior, and Zeus's favourite.

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Athena is decidedly not a mother figure

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 1:14 PM

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torpid vine Athena is very much NOT a mother figure.

;-;

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:14 PM

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i really hate that piece of lore about athena and medusa.

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hate athena abt that lore i mean

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:14 PM

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I dont know that one

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 1:14 PM

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she can still foster children without having the laying

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Arty is best god

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:14 PM

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bro what are you saying? Olymbians are a bunch of arrogant kids

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Athena is pretty awful to women all over the place in a lot of myths.

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:14 PM

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they are so bad

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 1:14 PM

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yesnt

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Arachne anyone?

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 1:15 PM

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everybody is bad to anybody

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Hestia might be the kindest

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:15 PM

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I dont think there is a good god

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:15 PM

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modest vine they are so bad

except artemis. and no.. not being biased because of the game but in the lore she is ok

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Yeah, but Athena argues that a mother is not the true parent of a son, only the father counts.

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So yeah, not a mother figure in any way.

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:15 PM

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yeah Artemis in lore too

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Most of the time the gods do bad things

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Some are better then others tho

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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atomic forge I dont think there is a *good* god

yeah because the gods in greek mythology are like people, they are both good and bad. which is far more believeable than some loving bro who does nothing ever wrong lmao

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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well Athena doesnt have a mother

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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The closest ones to being "good" are probably artemis (kinda. If you put aside the child-murdering) and ironically hades

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Ironically I think hades is one of the best

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Ares and Dio imo

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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hades? what? LOL

grim kernel Dec 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Hades has a good record of not being bad

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Hestia is the kindest

grim kernel Dec 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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yup

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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srsly? i mean... hades... guys

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Hades did soome awful things to Persephone and others.

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Actually yeah ares was pretty good

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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he's like a satan in greek myth

grim kernel Dec 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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nope

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Hades is oddly not a completely terrible person in Greek myth

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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And no, Hades is NOT like Satan.

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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oh? sorry haha

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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The persephone incident is weirdly out of character for him too

grim kernel Dec 13, 2020, 1:17 PM

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conflating evil with the underworld is an Abramhamic thing

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 1:17 PM

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torpid vine Hades did soome awful things to Persephone and others.

Less awful then the god standard tho

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:17 PM

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Hestia offered her place in olymbus to dio

grim kernel Dec 13, 2020, 1:17 PM

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depends on which version you choose though

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 1:17 PM

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hades, dio and hephaestus are the kindest gods not saying they havent doen horrible stuff, just saying out of all the stuff the gods do they did the least and do the most for the people

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:17 PM

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Hades isn't evil in the conventional Christian way. He's just pretty awful as a person.

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:17 PM

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just to keep peace among gods

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:17 PM

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Heph is less 'kind', given some of the Aphro myths.

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 1:17 PM

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and artemis and hekate are kinda the kindest godesses, hestia is a yesnt

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 1:17 PM

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They’re all awful but hades is like. Least awful

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:17 PM

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i can tell aphro isnt a good person LOL. i mean.. just visually look at her

grim kernel Dec 13, 2020, 1:17 PM

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Hades is the least awful

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:18 PM

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yup true not so bad... he makes a promise to hercles he does it... Hades sitll declines

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he steals demeter's daughter

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Artemis does her share of victim blaming, and goes on a child-killing rampage at the behest of her mother.

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:18 PM

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what a good person Hades is

grim kernel Dec 13, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Athena did the whole Troy thing with the Golden Apple

rocky lily Dec 13, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Never said he was good

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Eris did the golden apple.

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:18 PM

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grim kernel Athena did the whole Troy thing with the Golden Apple

athena was involve in troy? huh.. i thought only achiless

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Well the point of the gods is that they're flawed?

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:18 PM

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All the gods were involved in Troy.

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 1:18 PM

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to hephaestus: imagine you get shunned because you have a bodily disability and get hated and ecluded for it, get married to love herself and still get no love cause she cheats on you all the time. i would do some horrific stuff as well.

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Artemis is too Apollo too

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Apollo probably wasnt in the game because of the troy thing tbh

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

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torpid vine All the gods were involved in Troy.

nope

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

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what? all gods? wah.. i didnt know troy has such an impact

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Apollo's entry in Achilles's codex would just be incoherent screaming.

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

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torpid vine Apollo's entry in Achilles's codex would just be incoherent screaming.

lol

grim kernel Dec 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Dionysus isn't in the Trojan war I think since he wasnt really part of the olympians yet

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Most major gods, but yeah, there are a few absentees.

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Yeah some gods are younger than others too

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

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omg i need to watch the movie troy again and picked up all these missing pieces

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Hestia and Demeter wasnt too i think

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

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i love troy lore

potent matrix Dec 13, 2020, 1:20 PM

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zeus banned the gods from directly influencing troy since it was a fight between poseidon and the humans, did some of the OLYMPIAN 12 still do stuff? yes. but not all gods.

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:20 PM

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One of my favourite myths is hermes' childhood shenanigans

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Hermes shenanigans are fun.

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:20 PM

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the most important was Aopollo and Posseidon

grim kernel Dec 13, 2020, 1:21 PM

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Poseidon gave Odysseus one heck of bad time

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after the war

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:21 PM

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true

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:21 PM

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no matter how evil you guys make the gods to be, no one can top how evil athena was.

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:21 PM

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well he blinded he's son

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:21 PM

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I mean it took the man ten years to travel that far for a reason

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:21 PM

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peak pumice no matter how evil you guys make the gods to be, no one can top how evil athena ...

Well. That's debatable aha.

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Ares very, very nearly broke the oath against direct interference in Troy. He wanted to take to the battlefield personally after the loss of one of his children. Ares, unlike a lot of the gods, actually seems to care for his kids somewhat.

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:22 PM

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With all the things the male gods did to women

grim kernel Dec 13, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Zeus spurting everywhere didn't really help things either

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:22 PM

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I dont know who is the worst i know Hestia is the kindest

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:23 PM

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atomic forge Well. That's debatable aha.

sorry but dudeee..... she did medusa dirty. And ever since, in society.. they (still) think medusa is the villain

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:23 PM

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yeah she liked transforming people she didnt like

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Ares also rescued Than and killed one of Poseidon's sons after said son assaulted one of his own daughters. Oh, and he genuinely loved Aphrodite.

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There is a LOT of transforming in Greek myth xD

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:24 PM

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peak pumice sorry but dudeee..... she did medusa dirty. And ever since, in society.. they (s...

It depends on the interpretation of the myth... I actually think that she was trying to protect medusa, and poseidon was defo in the wrong but like I said it's up to interpretation

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:24 PM

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even Zagreus in myth died in form of a bull lol

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:24 PM

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torpid vine Ares also rescued Than and killed one of Poseidon's sons after said son assaulte...

oh ... that's interesting. I wanna see aphro and ares dialouge now as a duo when i picked these two boons

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:24 PM

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atomic forge It depends on the interpretation of the myth... I actually think that she was tr...

She then sent a kid to cut off her head. Such protection.

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:24 PM

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I remember Aphrodite talking about her husband so atleast Hephaestous is mentioned

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kinda

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:25 PM

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torpid vine She then sent a kid to cut off her head. Such protection.

Oh my bad, I didnt realise it was athena that sent him. I meant the whole gorgon thing aha

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:25 PM

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She sent Percy to kill her and bring back Medusa's head so she (Athena) could use it as a weapon.

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:25 PM

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I mean greek mythology as a whole is very interesting. There are a lot of different sources

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:25 PM

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And Aphrodite has a husband (although she'd rather be with... others.) Ares most of all. xDD

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:25 PM

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IKR

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and i wanna read up so much

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:26 PM

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SO MANY VERSIONS

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:26 PM

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but i know wikipedia doesnt help

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so i gues youtube is my answer

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:26 PM

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bro just imagine being Aphro and they make you husband of HEPHAESTOUS

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hephaestous played it well ngl

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:26 PM

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I mean I'd suggest overly sarcastic productions. They list sources too, I believe, and they're funny

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Aphro isn't exactly faithful. I mean, she goes off with Ares, Dio, Hermes etc. xD

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:27 PM

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but first i need to know how did greek myth came up ya know LOL. that can be an interesting take

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:27 PM

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yeah everyone knows about Ares and Aphro

tough sun Dec 13, 2020, 1:28 PM

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Im so happy i get to see a lot of greek mythology lovers here

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🥺

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:28 PM

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Though most married gods had affairs.

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:28 PM

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and that one times Hephaestous caught them doing the thing and he trapped them and showed them to the rest of the gond to humiliate them

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:28 PM

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who is zeus married to?

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:28 PM

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????????

tough sun Dec 13, 2020, 1:28 PM

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Hera right?

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:28 PM

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Hera,

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:28 PM

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Hera???

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:28 PM

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ohh ya oops

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:28 PM

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xd

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:29 PM

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I can't say I'm too surprised fans of a game called Hades like Greek myth funtime xDD

tough sun Dec 13, 2020, 1:29 PM

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Didnt hercules named after her? Heracles

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:29 PM

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its easier for me to look up these things since im Greek

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:29 PM

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She's the goddess of marriage too I believe. So she got very angry at zeus running off and... ya know

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:29 PM

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and there are more to read

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and watch

peak pumice Dec 13, 2020, 1:29 PM

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tough sun Didnt hercules named after her? Heracles

ayyy his name pop up in the game.

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:29 PM

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Hercules was roman I believe- Heracles was the greek one

tough sun Dec 13, 2020, 1:30 PM

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Yeah he's son of zeus, and his mom thought by naming him heracles, hera wouldnt be too angry i believe

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Ah it's been a long time since i dwelve into myths

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Heracles is an Ancient Greek existing person

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most of Roman mythology is Greek mytholgy but different

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:31 PM

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I've been trying to learn about mythology for a few years, but it's nothing formal so there are always gaps in the knowledge

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Yeah, people likes to take things from one another a lot

tough sun Dec 13, 2020, 1:32 PM

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atomic forge I've been trying to learn about mythology for a few years, but it's nothing form...

Same, i used to like to read about local myths, then i found out other countries have their own too so i was like wow it's amazing

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:32 PM

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Yeah Romans loved Ancient Greeks so they liked to copy some things but they did some rly good stuff on their own

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:33 PM

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I'm Scandinavian so I've been trying to learn more about norse mythology too

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:33 PM

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yeah i like that one too

tough sun Dec 13, 2020, 1:33 PM

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I know zeus in roman is jupiter

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Tho the rest im not sure xD

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Apollo just stays the same tbh. Idk why though

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:34 PM

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Ares and Mars were seen pretty differently.

tough sun Dec 13, 2020, 1:34 PM

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Ive been wondering why apollo isnt in the game tho

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His twin artemis is there

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:34 PM

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I think it's because of his role in troy. Too much beef with achilles

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:34 PM

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I really wanna see that though.

tough sun Dec 13, 2020, 1:34 PM

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Ah ye forgot about that 😅

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Tho would love to see his chariot

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:35 PM

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man what are you saying dosent make sense

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Achilles is like 'dying in war made me view Ares differently'... and then there's Apollo... xDD

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:35 PM

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his beef with Achilles would made him even more interesting

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i think its just a boon matter

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Nope

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Apollo is responsible for the deaths of Pat and Achilles.

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:36 PM

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Yeah. Idk how they wouldve made his boons that different- they could do damage over time, but that's kinda dio's thing...

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:36 PM

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and?

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:36 PM

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The codex would be strange. And idk how you could help out those two and simultaneously befriend the guy who killed them

tough sun Dec 13, 2020, 1:37 PM

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I wonder what his boons be like, sth related to the sun perhaps?

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Or poems

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:37 PM

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He pretty much directly killed Pat, so... I doubt Achilles would write kind things. I'd love Apollo in the game though.

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Apollo is the god of like half a million things.

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:37 PM

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I was considering fire but that's kinda haephestus

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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I dont think they didnt put him in just for the codex

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Yeah- the DoT idea was because of his plague thing

tough sun Dec 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Imagine zag found out and met him like bro you killed my bff and his bf prepare to die

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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and i dont think he would even care about Pat

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maybe Achilles yeah

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Achilles RAGE xDD

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:39 PM

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then Apollo killes him

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the end

tough sun Dec 13, 2020, 1:39 PM

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I wanna see hestia too, maybe as a side character since she's not an olympian anymore

atomic forge Dec 13, 2020, 1:40 PM

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I'm now curious of what apollo's boons would be. Hermes has dodge, which would be the Oracle aspect, dionysus has damage over time which would be plague...

tough sun Dec 13, 2020, 1:40 PM

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I think she'll be a nice chill side character tho i dunno where she'll be in this game tho xD

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:40 PM

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She might well still be an Olympian, given Demeter's reference.

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:40 PM

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you see its hard to out Apollo in there

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he plays music... he's good with the bow...

tough sun Dec 13, 2020, 1:40 PM

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I thought hestia gave her throne to dionysus?

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:41 PM

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prophecy stuff is about Fates

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what else is there for Apollo to do?

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yeah she did

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so the Olymbians dosent fight

torpid vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Demeter has a line about Hera and Hestia being willing to help, but not wanting to talk to Zeus's side of the fam atm xD

modest vine Dec 13, 2020, 1:41 PM

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yeah I remeber that xd

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nice backup Supergiant

tough sun Dec 13, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Wonder what hestia's boon would be like