Just look where the papers are
#h1-story-discussion
faint jasper
sour meadow
Hm, ok I'll have another look
faint jasper
You may have already found it. If you think so head over to the house contractor and see if you can purchase with 4 diamonds to release the contract.
sour meadow
Ok I'll check again. Thanks!
faint jasper
Yw if that doesn’t work keep trying to play the game and talk to Nyx every time you can.
green kayak
How do I unlock ||the last Aspect for the sword?||
balmy verge
It's pinned here
green kayak
Oh thanks
elder shore
can somebody tell me if the 3 open spaces on the bottom of the courtyard ever get filled
unreal dagger
Yes
elder shore
can you pm me how?
unreal dagger
I actually don't know how
But just play the game
I dont think you have to do anything in specific
Other than winning 1 round
elder shore
ive already beaten the final boss twice
unreal dagger
Just keep playing
unreal dagger
Oh
elder shore
ok thx
unreal dagger
Yeah 90% of the stuff in the game goes down to "keep playing and talking to everyone"
jade slate
hades is persona if the dungeon crawling was a hacknslash and you didnt have a deadline
as a side note, i finally got all the faces in my keepsakes
elder shore
faces?
unreal dagger
Conversations between zag and skelly got so weird after knowing they are the same va
red bough
i didn’t know this
open tiger
I think someone actually asked about that at one point in #ask-supergiant
pure rune
Speaking of which though, is there any expectations on when the next round of it should be?
open tiger
not that I've heard of
right now most of the questions would probably boil down to "what's next" so my personal guess is that they're going to wait a bit more before doing one
ashen rover
I just beat the bone hydra with 10 hp XD. Positive outlook is such a lifesaver
blazing pawn
Peeps I was able to max Favor on Athene and Artemis after talking with them for many times but can't seem to get Aphrodite to unlock, is there something Im missing ?
prime mulch
aphrodite favor need serious dedications, u need them ||romance companions||
blazing pawn
Already had Dusa and Mag altought I did not push for the arrows.
faint jasper
@blazing pawn you need to fully max em with ambrosia
So pretty much you need to fully max the arrows
I recommend doing it for Meg you can get her’s for way less ambrosia since Dusa requires 10 and she requires 3
prime mulch
wdym, dusa is technically 0
atomic forge
requires as in is a requirement for unlocking
but I would do Dusa first, too, might as well
faint jasper
How is Dusa technically 0?
open tiger
Nicely done @ashen rover ;)
atomic forge
yeah, I'd definitely do it first, I personally had a huge stock pile by the time I needed it anyway
but still you need a lot overall
dense fox
Quick question: does anyone have a video where Skelly ||mentions who he is||
sour meadow
yeah i think there's a bug in my game
i don't think i can progress the orpheus eurydice plot
zealous wind
you need to talk to nyx to do it
sour meadow
i have
zealous wind
took a while for me to get the convo
sour meadow
she's told me to go into the admin chamber, and i have done that and there's nothing there
i've since talked to her every time i can and there's been no more discussion on it
sour meadow
by the portal thing?
in the game right now and walking into the whole left side, nothing to interact with :/
zealous wind
nearish
sour meadow
*right side i mean
rotund kite
You sure you didn't already interact with it, and it's now a new option with the house contractor?
zealous wind
I was about to say
sour meadow
yeah it's not an option, i just checked after i asked about it yesterday
yeah all the conversations with orpheus/eurydice/nyx have all gone more generic the past 5-6 times i've talked to them, seems like it might just be broken, which sucks
obtuse pendant
anyone have a screenshot or clip of when you choose ||"ease off" at the Thanatos romance scene|| couldn't hear it over people talking in discord
gusty pike
I think I recall having one conversation with Nyx where she discussed, in general, the idea that the relevant contract might be in the admin room. . . and then much later another conversation where she told me exactly which file number to pull.
It took what seemed like a really long time for it to come up.
atomic forge
how do i complete the ||dark reflections|| prophecy? i cant get half of the talents
rotund kite
Why can't you get them?
Did you click the button to the left of the talent name to switch to it's alt talent?
rotund kite
Ohh, they just replace the original ones, if you prefer them. Need to rank them up independently though
atomic forge
thnx
sour meadow
@gusty pike ah okay, that's reassuring. Yet to have that convo with her
atomic forge
i talked to hades and it unlocked something called ||summoners vs. hades|| or something like that. what does it do?
It lets you ||use summons against hades||
also, how do i complete ||the gift of song||?
||play the harp some and then talk to orpheus and do that a bunch of times|| @atomic forge
late latch
to trigger the ||epilogue|| does anyone know if you must clear it on every weapon or can you just spam 20 heat on one weapon?
wicked crescent
Got the ||second meg scene|| lads 😎
torpid vine
Congrats!
lunar kiln
||epilogue|| isn't tied to heat runs you have to ||forge bonds with a certain number of olympians|| for the most part
left bronze
Guys, the shop keeper with the boat ||killed me|| 
I'm baffled hahaha, never ||steal from him||
balmy verge
You mean "borrow"
zealous wind
first time I tried I didn't die but they took a death defiance, pretty happy with myself about that
prime mulch
i am lowkey offended by that emote for some reason
storm prawn
i have a real quick theory i want to spitball.|| Its a pact that confines hades to the underworld, and it makes no sense that zagreus would also be confined to the underworld even thought the other children of hades aren't, then i began to question why the game outright forces you to drink from fountains before progressing? Even in boss rooms, you can't access any of the fountains or trinkets before you take a mandatory drink from the fountain. What if drinking the underworld's water is what keeps zagreus from staying on the surface? Similar to how persephone was kept in the underworld by eating it's fruit in the myths.||any feedback on this fun little theory ive been working on would be helpful. let me know if im missing anything
prime mulch
but in game, that last part is kinda wrong
outer swan
well since it forces you to do it to progress, what does it matter
storm prawn
yeah, but i think the deal with the game and the myth's connection is kinda like fnaf and the fnaf books, so it could be influenced by the myths, or like a version of it from a different view
outer swan
you couldn't really escape and not drink it anyway
assuming zagreus is really forced to drink it
storm prawn
but i also could be overthinking the heck outta this
prime mulch
monke
outer swan
find out next week in part 2
outer swan
roll credits
alright help me out real quick
do you ever get to pan the camera over to this thing
this big hand statue
storm prawn
its cool to theoriorize about stuff like this
prime mulch
ask joanne from sgg, shes the environment artist
storm prawn
is that sarcasm, or are you allowed to up and dm the devs
outer swan
that's what I'm asking
prime mulch
apparently they on break right now, so do as you will
storm prawn
oi @outer swan , in your screenshot, ||how would i get the spirit plush?||
prime mulch
its a companion keepsake
storm prawn
||chiron?||
prime mulch
wdym chiron
outer swan
how do i type in censored
prime mulch
|| like this ||
outer swan
||censorec||
rocky dirge
Chiron is a bow.... did you mean Charon?
rocky dirge
Charon does not give a companion, no
storm prawn
wait, so who gives the ||spirit plush||
outer swan
||the companion i have is from sisyphus, you need to gift him enough times and also free him from his pact||
prime mulch
sissyphus iirc
storm prawn
well thats a new can of worms. i have him maxed out, but how do i free him?
atomic forge
charon gives a companion ;)
outer swan
have you ||given him ambrosia||
rocky dirge
Then you havent maxed out 🙂
prime mulch
theres a prophecy related to sis puss
storm prawn
im assuming the heart lock is freeing him
rocky dirge
You need to talk to him, and also Nyx, Meg and Hades too I think
storm prawn
do i need to give them stuff?
rocky dirge
You should give them nectar anyways, but not for this, no
outer swan
you have to ||talk to nyx once you've gained your privelges back, meaning you've completed the regular ending by beating the game 10 times||
at least that's how I understand it
prime mulch
no, sisyphus contract mostly involves than and nyx
storm prawn
ive done that already
rocky dirge
There's a guide in a sticky comment on this channel that can tell you what to do
outer swan
what he said ^^
rocky dirge
ive done that already
@storm prawn There's a lot of dialogue involved, and RNG
After talking to her a bunch, she'll mention that you need to find something in the archive room, and then you can free Sisyphus
storm prawn
oh, thanks, gtg
terse crag
||So I got some new dialogs after beating a run with 32 heat, is there more dialog for higher heat levels||?
gusty pike
|| Its a pact that confines hades to the underworld, and it makes no sense that zagreus would also be confined to the underworld even thought the other children of hades aren't||
||Hades doesn't have any other children; Thanatos is Nyx's child, not Hades'||@storm prawn
balmy verge
wait why tf do we spoiler tag in #h1-story-discussion ?
balmy verge
read the description of the channel
balmy verge
ik m8 been here for a while, that mainly applies to discussion and new player
balmy verge
it says "all spoilerd welcome"
it doesnt bother me im just wondering
cause its a channel specifically for people who wanna spoiler talk
atomic forge
ok
balmy verge
i aint knocking you for being nice lol
proud urchin
i have a problem || the game said that it put the request in at the house contractor for nyx and chaos to meet up again, but i cant find that request || please let me know what i am doing wrong
rocky dirge
You have to go check the thing in archives first I think?
drifting bison
proud urchin
did a run. it showed up. thnx
any word on when good riddance will be patched into the switch version?
gusty pike
Traditionally Hypnos and Thanatos are often described as the children of Nyx and Erebus. Not clear if Erebus is a person in the Hadesverse though.
faint jasper
wait why tf do we spoiler tag in #h1-story-discussion ?
People do it because people could click on it you don’t have to use spoiler tags if you can’t be bothered it’s not required
balmy verge
thats what i said yeah
jolly ice
huh wut apparently theres still 1 npc i havent found 🤔
what do i need to do to uncover ||https://i.imgur.com/dufOQPJ.png||
balmy verge
finish story
fallow iron
i just spent 25 ambrosia on the themes thing
i thought it would do something more useful
yikes
fallow iron
i dont know
i mean they appeared in the same thing that gave u chests and things like that
of course its my fault hahahahahaha
balmy verge
looks dope tho
rocky dirge
Did you perhaps not read the description?
slow shoal
No, they just work together
rugged trench
How do I unlock the bond for Poseidon? I have all others
slow shoal
You've got to catch a bunch of fish and then talk to him on a run where you've already caught one
(A lot of fish total across all your runs)
rugged trench
I've been skipping fishing spots in most regions but I guess I will have to start catching again
slow shoal
Wiki says 18 total catches
rugged trench
Ok I am probably way past that
I just have to catch a fish in the same run then
easy enough
slow shoal
Yeah, then all you can do now is catch a fish before speaking to him for the first time
And the fish can be in the same room where you get his boon, I lucked out and caught the fish and then immediately got the unlock when I grabbed the boon in the same room
outer orbit
why do you skip fishing? it gives a bunch of nice resources
rugged trench
I don't have anything left to unlock except cosmetic stuff
outer orbit
oh, fair enough
rugged trench
I still fish in Chaos/Greece just because of the codex entries haha
outer orbit
good luck
proven gale
what do i have to do to ||renovate the lounge|| for ||Dusa's affinity quest||
I tried ||buying stuff for the lounge, something I never do cause I don't care for the cosmetic stuff in the house, is that what I have to do ?||
zealous wind
||you have to talk to her about it after|| @proven gale
onyx sierra
No, they just work together
@slow shoal I’ll post a screenshot in a minute bc I lost my mind
surreal dew
oh my god I had one of the greatest interactions with thesus
I got the ending line where theseus thinks zag is going to cause him and asterius to break up
theseus is all "finally I understand, our bond will never be broken!"
proven gale
@zealous wind but ||the Dusa prophecy hasn't been fulfilled yet||
surreal dew
and then I instantly charm asterius with aphrodite's legendary and he smacks theseus
zealous wind
@proven gale which one?
proven gale
@zealous wind ||A Place of Revelry||
zealous wind
||yeah that's the lounge one, you need to talk to dusa about the lounge to complete it||
@proven gale
proven gale
@zealous wind ||but I did, I keep talking to her and nothing happens||
zealous wind
idk then, have you got ||all the lounge decorations?||
grizzled siren
@proven gale ||the requirements are to repair all the lounge damage, buy the chairs and tables. then talk to Dusa and she'll tell you how thankful she is. This is a random dialogue and it's RNG if you get it||
proven gale
||oh I need to get every lounge decoration that makes more sense ok||
grizzled siren
||no you do not||
proven gale
||cause i only bought like, 2||
grizzled siren
||okay well that wouldn't be enough then. Like I said you only need to repair the damage caused by Cereberus, and buy the first couple of decorations.||
proven gale
I see
well thanks
acoustic jewel
My question here is ||why Zag just had to go back after his mother already asked him to stay home||
proven gale
@acoustic jewel ||because he's stubborn||
zealous wind
||it's because he felt family needed to stick together regardless and is a somewhat stereotypical teenager in terms of doing what he's told||
marble frost
@proven gale and by "the first couple" we mean at least a dozen different things. (for example, three rugs count as one item)
grizzled siren
im tellin you
i got my Dusa talk after just repairing the damage and buying tables and chairs
waxen gazelle
Do I have to max Patroclus nectar gifts for Achilles ambrosia unlock? I've already maxed Achilles nectar gifts.
drifting citrus
yes, i'd assume so
rocky dirge
You mean.... their discussion? It's just dialog. Maybe it requires EM? That's how I got it, but I dont know if it's exclusive to it
grizzled siren
I'd imagine beating Asterius in solo combat a few time is required
balmy verge
i guess the best answer is: youre bound to get it
green pivot
Hey, I have one question about Poseidon's ||affinity. So every guide mentions that I should have some fishes cought (at least one extra rare) and talk to him after I catch at least 1 fish in the same run. Unfortunately, he has literally no dialogue during accepting boons. I'm at almost 100 fishes cought total (at least 3 rarest) and still can't proc dialogue which would allow me to give him Ambrosia. Am I missing something?||
boreal maple
whats em?
grizzled siren
Elephant Month
it's like shark month but with elephants
@green pivot make sure you don't take poseidon boons before getting a fish that run. they only say a certain amount of things per run
rocky dirge
Hey, I have one question about Poseidon's ||affinity. So every guide mentions that I should have some fishes cought (at least one extra rare) and talk to him after I catch at least 1 fish in the same run. Unfortunately, he has literally no dialogue during accepting boons. I'm at almost 100 fishes cought total (at least 3 rarest) and still can't proc dialogue which would allow me to give him Ambrosia. Am I missing something?||
@green pivot You have to have caught the fish prior to getting your first Poseidon boon in a run, I believe.
grizzled siren
joking aside @boreal maple EM = Extreme measures. It's one of the pacts
green pivot
@rocky dirge Yep, I did that every try. I guess @grizzled siren is right there, thanks a lot!
rocky dirge
But... we said the same thing
grizzled siren
I said it with more gumption
rocky dirge
Stupid sexy Dusa!
grizzled siren
To be fair. Dusa would probably feel like she's wearing nothing at all. because she is
lost cypress
So he gets to ||meet with all the Olympians, his mother and reach the surface?||
@blissful nacelle
blissful nacelle
no, yes, yes
but you'll understand why you have to keep playing once you've gotten to both of those yes' 
lost cypress
I believe I'm close to the endgame content
Just wanted to clarify if it's not going to be repetitive from here
Thanks
blissful nacelle
i mean, story-wise i dont think it gets repetitive for a long, LONG time
there's always something progressing for the first x number of clears and then there's general character arcs that progress after that point and then there's more story stuff again later
gusty pike
So he gets to ||meet with all the Olympians, his mother and reach the surface?||
@lost cypress yes to all three, though the first one happens mostly off-screen
lost cypress
Yeah, I believe it's the ||party that Zag holds||
jade slate
what if after beating the game
instead of heading out zag just walks back in
||since his main goal for leaving is gone||
could work as a quicker restart and still leave the option for people to listen to funny death noise
drifting citrus
the latter
fading smelt
@green pivot I had the exact same experience with Poseidon. He has a lot of dialogue to cycle through so keep at it
pearl lantern
Question, what needs to be done to unlock ||Hera's boons||?
pearl lantern
Oh, I am missing an olympian in the codex. I thought it was her
drifting citrus
ah
i think i know who you're missing, and you'll need to have reached the final boss once
no need to win, just need to get there
pearl lantern
Dang, I was worried you were gonna say that :/
drifting citrus
it'll make more sense why when you actually get that olympian
(until then, stay out of this channel in case of spoilers 
)
pearl lantern
I've heard ramblings about ||Demeter|| in the lore. I'm not sure if that's it, but that's my current guess right now.
atomic forge
so i have max hearts with meg except for the locked one
but prior to having maxed hearts, i had the room cut scene
but i didnt get battie
am i doing smt wrong
or..
fiery bone
Finally got my first win. Damn I feel good
That ending scene for the first win is beautiful
|| never has a sunrise looked so good||
grizzled siren
somethings up with my game
things have been acting really strangely for me for awhile
Giving up has been producing weird side effects with the seeds not being the same, I've had the ||"murderzer"|| conversation with the furies twice now
I also had the Chaos nyx side quest lines out of order and repeated
marsh oasis
You should probably go to #h1-tech-support for that @grizzled siren
grizzled siren
is it possible to backstab crystals?
reef tartan
From my experience, i don't think so
drifting citrus
using the parting shot duo boon
reef tartan
When attacking them from 'behind', no 'backstab' text appears for me
drifting citrus
athena/aphrodite
reef tartan
Oh yeah, your cast would do 'backstab' damage to them if you have Parting Shot duo boon then
grizzled siren
hey so am i crazy or is EM3 easier then normal Theseus
I find Theseus EM3 moveset to be a lot easier to dodge then his spear throwing nonsense
plus his 2nd phase triggers a lot later meaning you can just burst him down while he stands still
fierce estuary
hes harder when asterius is still alive imo
sometimes i bang into him or he runs around shooting fast and it hurts a lot
but when asterius is dead hes easier
grizzled siren
i think EM3's hardest move is ||the minigun attack.|| but beyond that he usually just goes off and does his own thing while I take care of Asterius.
fierce estuary
yea that hurts if u dont pay attention to him
neon hornet
Was gonna post a pic but I cant figure out how to make pics spoiler tagged on mobile but the end where hades tells zag to tell persephone that cerberus is fine nearly made me cry.
grizzled siren
oh god
hammer or shop. final room before EM3
pretty low hp, and how bout that story huh?
velvet cedar
@grizzled siren story channel btw
marble frost
always go ham.
rotund kite
I would go hammer there, but it should reappear in Styx if you don't take it there
Game always tries to give you two hammers
You can confidently skip a hammer for something like a double boon room, and know it will turn up again later
fast idol
I just finished the very final story event yesterday, like a major one
just need to clean up all other small events, get all bonds and then the final Skelly statue
fiery bone
If I’m trying to unlock || the 4th aspect for Exagryph do I need to spend blood on aspects other than zags? Or can I just have maxed zag?||
zealous wind
||pretty sure it's just 5 in total, so maxed Zag should work||
worldly portal
I'm uncertain, was the game making me choose ||a relationship priority between Dusa or Meg?||
lunar kiln
there are no priorities of that kind here
worldly portal
||I recently finished Dusa, but didn't get a notation of bond in the keepsakes like I did with Meg long ago.||
fast idol
there's a follow up conversation I think
worldly portal
I am hoping that is the case.
hallow junco
I'm curious if this is a bug\oversight or I'm missing something... ||I've freed Sisyphus from his contract, so he just stands there doing nothing. Yet Megaera mentions him as if nothing happens, and then he says (on another bottle of ambrosia) that "may be they will cut me some slack". Weren't they supposed to leave him alone?||
strong flax
since when did the minotaur have a green wave attack? this is new to me
fast idol
they are going easier on him Will
||none of the contracts Zag gets his hands on are voided, he just rewrites the terms||
torpid vine
||Sis is great, but I still want him to apologise to Than xDD||
hallow junco
||none of the contracts Zag gets his hands on are voided, he just rewrites the terms||
@fast idol I think that one was specifically ||release from the terms. I mean, Zag even says he could go to Elysium, it's just he refuses ||
zealous wind
||just did that one, the house contractor said either void it or release him||
worn widget
@strong flax Once ||Theseus and Asterius got their spat sorted||, I believe.
steady haven
I have a question about a prophecy, ||For the Poseidon fish thing, do I need to be holding 25 fish or do I just need to have 25 in the fish tank? Also if anyone can share tips for catching legendary fish that would be appreciated.||
worn widget
||25+ fished in total including a rare, I believe.|| I'm still lacking the second condition.
steady haven
ok, thanks! I just wanted to be sure before I keep turning them in.
narrow crypt
|| yesterday when i was on the first floor instead of megara a zombi version appeared, what triggered this event to happen and do i win something spcecial?||
narrow crypt
do i win something?
ruby cedar
Ohhhhhhhh ahahaha Tisiphone
When you go through it over and over again you meet Megs sisters and they tend to swap out randomly. It keeps the 1st boss fresh.
inland umbra
Tisiphone is cool don't knock her
zealous wind
Tisiphone's nicer than Alecto at least
copper saffron
always a pleasure to kill Alecto
zealous wind
indeed it is
strong flax
knock her out
hallow junco
the other says KIIIIIILLLERRR
@narrow crypt MRDRDR
not gonna say anything, except -- keep playing
prime mulch
alecto turns me on
left vessel
bouldy still the hottest one
prime mulch
u need them nectars for woodland
raven depot
I can't get the last dialogue from zeus. The wiki says that i need to hear 5 opinions about him from other gods. I'm sure that i did hear more than 5 by now, but nothing is happening. I take his keepsake at the start of a run, so all other gods I meet can say something. They don't say anything about him either. What am I supposed to do?
slow shoal
I was in the same boat, I think you're just at the mercy of RNG.
raven depot
I don't want to rely on rng, I'm getting really bored of the game, but I don't want to quit untill i finished the story
Maybe there are cheats, or I can somehow access the console?
bright rose
sharp berry
have you gone for a run yet/
narrow crypt
yes
left vessel
when enteing rooms with bodies of water, you have a chance of seeing a glowing spot where u can fish
sharp berry
after a room, if you hear a small bell chime, there should be a shining spot near the river
sharp berry
low chance, maybe 1 or 2 times per biome
narrow crypt
||now i gotta get a diamond before hades jails the musician another time XD||
sharp berry
gl man 🙂
narrow crypt
Yeah
im gonna stop playing now because 2 hours have passed before me realizing it XD
sharp berry
||hermes bond||?
sharp berry
||What do I need to do to forge a bond w/ Hermes||?
left vessel
speak w him while equipping his max level keepsake
supple dagger
Ngl, I'm kinda amused at peeps' passion to have Aphrodite's husband in the game. I think he's her husband.
supple dagger
@prime mulch Hephasteus. There's a post where someone edited the boon options screen of their idea for blessings from him.
prime mulch
too ugly to be in game, rejected
sharp berry
oof
wintry inlet
daedalus weapon upgrades pretty much substitute his blessings
in fact it matches so well, that at first i couldn't remember whose that hammer upgrade was and was thinking on him exactly
sharp berry
Isn't Hephaestus' abode very close to Hades?
green kayak
How do I give more nectar to someone? They're maxed out at 5.
rocky dirge
How do I give more nectar to someone? They're maxed out at 5.
@green kayak Check the guide in the pinned comment
green kayak
Oh thats there too, thanks.
supple dagger
@wintry inlet a lot of people also reference how they think the hammers shoulda been Aphrodite's husband, but I'm more in the group of people that think he'd be better suited as the god of fire or something similar.
wintry inlet
well, its kinda only blessing that you can get from mortal, so it seems kinda strange
and if they would make it Hephaestus', they could add more art and another god to the mix
would be great imo
rocky dirge
I believe SGG specifically wanted a boon that didnt talk to you, so they went with Daedalus hammers
neon hornet
Im gonna assume its a spoiler because I haven’t seen this option till I have beaten the game but ||if I borrow from charon will it lock me from shops for the rest of the run or what is gonna happen. Because I don’t ever go for obals and I never save them because its best to just trade them for whatever you can to me but 300 is alot to take.||
faint jasper
It won’t lock you from the shops no
neon hornet
What does it do
lunar kiln
||if you borrow from charon it will start a fight against him||
faint jasper
Find out yourself please
neon hornet
Find out yourself please
@faint jasper its the spoiler channel
faint jasper
I know but it’s more fun
neon hornet
Fair enough
faint jasper
Since it’s pretty epic but Achilles dude said it if you want to know
wintry inlet
I believe SGG specifically wanted a boon that didnt talk to you, so they went with Daedalus hammers
but they added up Hermes' shut up option, didn't they had enough?
acoustic jewel
Come on, you've gotta love Hermes
wintry inlet
i do
i never muted him
as i mentioned before only goddess i would mute is Demeter
lunar kiln
now why would you mute grandma
rocky dirge
as i mentioned before only goddess i would mute is Demeter
@wintry inlet You have some weird grandma issues, man
acoustic jewel
I personally would mute Aphrodite
rocky dirge
She just wants her daughter back
acoustic jewel
Demeter is frosty granny with warm heart
rocky dirge
And is also a genocidal maniac, I dont know what the issue is
wintry inlet
her heart is so warm that she puts out her frustration on defenseless mortals
way to go
rocky dirge
Yeah, unlike all the other gods!
acoustic jewel
||kinda Hades's fault tbf||
neon hornet
Lesson learned ||dont “borrow” from charon||
He does as much damage as the final boss
acoustic jewel
Ah yes, the chunky ||40+ damage hits||
rocky dirge
Definitely dont borrow in Tartarus, lol
acoustic jewel
Perhaps try in Elysium
neon hornet
Didn’t help my only boon was poseidons dash and a 400% armor damage increase hammer
So I was bassically fresh
neon hornet
True
If you are good and memorize the patterns
But the same could be said for any boss
In almost every video game ever
Memorizing patterns
acoustic jewel
The souls formula right there
||At least you can change that up later in the game, at least a little||
proven gale
yo folks is there a way to ||see the credits again|| after ||having brought persephone back||
also is there a way to ||see Greece again too|| ?
proven gale
no to both of those questions ? that's sad
faint jasper
Yup no to both
proven gale
that's a genuine flaw of the game then
sharp berry
@neon hornet Just a tip that'd make it easier, ||the only move that you need to watch out for is the two oar swipes. Most of the other moves are slow enough that you can predict and move around. Try dashing through him before he starts swinging||
lunar kiln
@proven gale it's addressed in some dialogues
proven gale
@lunar kiln what is addressed ?
faint jasper
||Greece|| I’m assuming
lunar kiln
||not being able to go back to greece||
proven gale
oh okay
faint jasper
Yeah when you ||die||
wintry inlet
i'd love to visit ||Persephone's surface garden again, weed plants, water flowers, etc.||
idk why they added that useless ||underground garden|| instead
proven gale
cause that's kinda sad I wanted to ||see Persephone's garden again, maybe have a chance to fish in Greece too, see the sun rising again||
faint jasper
Let us use house contractor in the garden
The underground one
You get ||one cool thing right at the end of the game in it but that’s it||
wintry inlet
you mean something else except ||eavesdropping on Hades+Persephone dialogues||?
well that's new
faint jasper
Yes
wintry inlet
so far it was kinda lame location, you can't even upgrade it's look through contractor
faint jasper
Have you not completed the full game?
I just realised a lot of people haven’t...
Only 3% have on Steam
wintry inlet
i kinda never log on after ||Dusa screwed me over||
faint jasper
Bruh play the game
There’s so much more
I don’t think it’s that big a deal-
I thought she was sweet about it
I love her but I’ll be her best friend for eternity. :3
neon hornet
@neon hornet Just a tip that'd make it easier, ||the only move that you need to watch out for is the two oar swipes. Most of the other moves are slow enough that you can predict and move around. Try dashing through him before he starts swinging||
@sharp berry thanks was trying to do that when I fought him
wintry inlet
you mean eternal friendzone?
neon hornet
Im good at realizing boss move sets
wintry inlet
that sounds great...
faint jasper
BUT SHES A GOOD FRIEND
neon hornet
Im just terrible a avoiding them actually
wintry inlet
but seriously though, there is chance to romance ||Than to please gay/bisexual people|| but zero chance for truly platonic love
sharp berry
ganbaru!
acoustic jewel
Wait you can't fish in ||Greece|| anymore ||post credits||? Aww
acoustic jewel
Yay!
faint jasper
Wrong
acoustic jewel
Aww
faint jasper
I’ve beat him like 100 times
I haven’t been back up there.
You lose the chance after the 10th run.
sharp berry
no it's at the edges of the arena
neon hornet
but seriously though, there is chance to romance ||Than to please gay/bisexual people|| but zero chance for truly platonic love
@wintry inlet ||isn’t that incest? Oh wait nm forgot nyx is a half mother||
faint jasper
Seriously?
Whenever I exit the narrator speaks then I dude
Die*
There’s nothing else
acoustic jewel
||Well she gave him life, so it's pretty much the same as motherhood||
surreal marsh
Is there some confirmed guide how to get the true ending? Every guide tells something different...
acoustic jewel
I did not need to know that a ||"true ending" || existed, thank you
sharp berry
i know, very rare, but after the fight, there may be a spot on the water surrounding arena, not after exiting
wintry inlet
There is this Erebus dude, that's gotta be Than's father, not Hades too, so its definitely ||not incest||
but i'm not sure he's even featured in game
faint jasper
i know, very rare, but after the fight, there may be a spot on the water surrounding arena, not after exiting
I thought you meant the garden not the fishing spot
But yeah there is a fishing spot sometimes at the fight
acoustic jewel
I think the romances aren't really what people play the game for anyway
But yeah there is a fishing spot sometimes at the fight
@faint jasper yay!
sharp berry
it's the same 'loot pool'...pun intended
acoustic jewel
Bro I love how you can just essentially flex on ||your father|| by fishing
Like dad, I know you want to stop me from getting out and all, but let me just squad down real quick and reel in a big one
Uncle Poseidon would be proud
faint jasper
You do it after killing him
acoustic jewel
It stops
sharp berry
oops
acoustic jewel
Noone in the floating head crowd? Aww
wintry inlet
i am
btw "floating head" remark is kinda offensive to Dusa
its like calling Meg "bag with bones and meat"
acoustic jewel
Look here, if I can't be in the Artemis crowd without being judged, nor the dusa crowd, I guess I'll have to go with BOULDY THEN
drifting citrus
bc it's not dionysus duh
wintry inlet
w8, shouldn't she be virgin canonically?
acoustic jewel
She's the goddess of chastity
faint jasper
Unpopular opinion: Athena is hot
acoustic jewel
Ofc she is
acoustic jewel
🤔
faint jasper
I just wanna be her best friend TwT
acoustic jewel
I think you're taking this too seriously dude
Same
Guess we gotta fight for the privilege then
faint jasper
I don’t even have really extreme relationships with anyone in real life and never will.
Not into that stufffff
wintry inlet
do you perhaps talking about ||holding hands|| : O
acoustic jewel
No that's illegal
faint jasper
Touching other people is weird
wintry inlet
interesting trivia: you can't hold hands with Dusa
wintry inlet
I would say she'll work better in volleyball or basketball
acoustic jewel
I can't let my girl see any of this lest she smite me down
neon hornet
You can hold one of dusa’s snakes for hand holding
neon hornet
They might bite tho
@faint jasper they follow her intentions so no they wouldn’t
acoustic jewel
Anyone else wanna try to pat Cerberus
neon hornet
They would probably even nuzzle you
wintry inlet
You can hold one of dusa’s snakes for hand holding
that would be chokings snake, little different
neon hornet
You can hold one of dusa’s snakes for hand holding
that would be chokings snake, little different
@wintry inlet you don’t crush your girls hand while you hold it
neon hornet
Just dont squeeze too tight
faint jasper
Hands are more strong than a Snake’s neck
acoustic jewel
Hands are more strong than a Snake’s neck
@faint jasper snakes are pure muscle
Don't underestimate le snek
Especially le divine snek
neon hornet
Anyways
wintry inlet
hmm, w8, don't you plebs have no corresponding allegory like we here?
neon hornet
How do you get orpheus to sing
faint jasper
Give one nectar
wintry inlet
choking snake == mastrubating
faint jasper
And he will eventually-
acoustic jewel
Talk to him and his muse
faint jasper
What
acoustic jewel
Someone get this man to calm down
faint jasper
Eww...
neon hornet
Talk to him and his muse
@acoustic jewel done that already they hate each others guts
faint jasper
My guy likes Dusa too much
drifting citrus
rule 2
acoustic jewel
Do it more
faint jasper
You need to give em nectar
acoustic jewel
Give some Nectar
faint jasper
That’s what it says on the wiki at least
neon hornet
||Eurydice is so ungrateful “ugghhhh my husband tried to save me from hell, what a a-hole” like, WHAT||
rule 2
@drifting citrus forgot sorry
acoustic jewel
It's that he failed
faint jasper
||It changes later but|| true
neon hornet
Spoiler one right
It's that he failed
@acoustic jewel still he tried sort of a uhhhh b word thing to do
I HATE NOT CURSING ON THE INTERNET
wintry inlet
Yeah, i didn't get why is she mad on him too
it's not like he failed cause he didn't love her or w/e
neon hornet
Its the thought that counts
wintry inlet
seems like DuperGiant didn't work this through very well
faint jasper
We not gonna talk about how Zagreus can make it all the way from hell to Greece in 5 minutes?
neon hornet
||Oh and there is this one guy sort of a primordial being of pure chaos I guess was watching someone play hades and they just put in a random clip of them how do I meet them.||
faint jasper
Bruh you haven’t met Chaos?
acoustic jewel
seems like DuperGiant didn't work this through very well
@wintry inlet ya can't just keep judging stuff at first glance, especially relationships. Stuff isn't as black and white as in the stories that you'd think to be worked through in a great way
neon hornet
Bruh you haven’t met Chaos?
@faint jasper nope
faint jasper
If you haven’t you probably shouldn’t be in this channel ;-;
I’m assuming you just started?
It’s fine you can be but I don’t recommend it
neon hornet
Does it have to do with the floor health cost portals. They have the same astral galaxy texture as him
acoustic jewel
Yes
faint jasper
Yes
neon hornet
I’m assuming you just started?
@faint jasper no I have beaten the final boss and done many other runs
neon hornet
Like 200 to 300 runs thus far
faint jasper
Yes,
neon hornet
How have you never visited chaos
@acoustic jewel i generally refuse using things that cost health because im stingy
wintry inlet
its androgynyous entity
acoustic jewel
They struck me as rather masculine
neon hornet
its androgynyous entity
@wintry inlet it is you, me, she, he, it
Everywhere and nowhere
acoustic jewel
I think you might be confusing giving birth and creating
wintry inlet
Chaos speaks of how ||they birthed nyx|| in game
acoustic jewel
They created everything. They also created Nyx. Giving birth to something is just a fancy way to say that
neon hornet
So what if I use these floor portals once I will meet him or am I gonna keep using them till I meet him
faint jasper
That’s wrong
acoustic jewel
I once gave birth to an abomination that called itself my English homework
faint jasper
They did not give birth to Nyx
acoustic jewel
For example
neon hornet
I once gave birth to an abomination that called itself my English homework
@acoustic jewel sounds like my handwriting
wintry inlet
They created everything. They also created Nyx. Giving birth to something is just a fancy way to say that
ehh, do you even familiar with other myths about chaos-like entitites?
neon hornet
That of a 3 year old
acoustic jewel
Nah, I'm not big on Greek mythology
I'm just frankly annoyed by you being so nit-picky about everything
neon hornet
They created everything. They also created Nyx. Giving birth to something is just a fancy way to say that
ehh, do you even familiar with other myths about chaos-like entitites?
@wintry inlet chaos is usually used in the manner of storytelling as a violent catalyst
Like the big bang
Something entirely unpredictable that has great power to destroy or create
wintry inlet
I'm just frankly annoyed by you being so nit-picky about everything
its all right i don't expect everyone to like me
acoustic jewel
It's mildly interesting to see that you refuse to actually use the quote feature tho xD
neon hornet
OH HO
I'm just frankly annoyed by you being so nit-picky about everything
its all right i don't expect everyone to like me
@wintry inlet >I'm just frankly annoyed by you being so nit-picky about everything
its all right i don't expect everyone to like me
@wintry inlet > It's mildly interesting to see that you refuse to actually use the quote feature tho xD
@acoustic jewel
Ok im done
acoustic jewel
Oh, that's a big-un
neon hornet
Dont feel like getting banned today
acoustic jewel
Great catch there
faint jasper
Can you all stop being mean to one another? ^^
neon hornet
My question still hasnt been answered
Can you all stop being mean to one another? ^^
@faint jasper NEIN DUMME SCHLAMPE
faint jasper
Eh?
neon hornet
HEH HAHAHA THEY CANT DO ANYTHING IF I UTTER MY BELOVED OBSCENITIES IN GERMAN
neon hornet
SCHEIßE
acoustic jewel
Apologize
neon hornet
I apologize sir and or madam
faint jasper
What does it mean
neon hornet
cant say it
acoustic jewel
I think that's not for me to say
faint jasper
Dm me it
acoustic jewel
faint jasper
D:
faint jasper
Also Chaos is female. She is the MOTHER of Nyx. I’m pretty sure it says that
faint jasper
I’m about 51% sure
acoustic jewel
I refuse
neon hornet
Also Chaos is female. She is the MOTHER of Nyx. I’m pretty sure it says that
@faint jasper mother father chaos as I said is unpredictable
faint jasper
True
neon hornet
It doesnt really matter to it
faint jasper
Ok
faint jasper
Prob
neon hornet
But the next day nyx could do something that upsets chaos leading to her destruction
faint jasper
Yes
We not gonna talk about how Nyx did a sweet home Alabama
And married her brother?
neon hornet
Chaos in tat regard is best left alone and sometimes seen as a antihero or villian in media or mythology
We not gonna talk about how Nyx did a sweet home Alabama
@faint jasper I mean being honest Alabama pulled a ancient Greece
Greek mytholoy and history is full of messed up garbage
And fun meaningful tales
faint jasper
True
neon hornet
But the best or worst ones
faint jasper
Doesn’t Zeus like frick everyone?
neon hornet
Are a mix of both
wintry inlet
check out how this works in Egypt mythology:
||Before there was anything, there was Atum, the creator God and main deity of the Egyptian pantheon, who existed by himself. He was surrounded by nothingness, so he decided to put an end to his long solitude and created the world and the rest of the Egyptian gods through masturbation. From his ejaculation emerged the first pair of twin gods, Shu (air god) and Tefnut (moisture goddess). Atum's semen was the origin of the world, and masturbation the act of creation.||
i'm not trying to lewd things up, its just creation from chaos is kinda sexual still
neon hornet
Doesn’t Zeus like frick everyone?
@faint jasper zeus was a horndog and I thing screwed a bunch of mortal women borderline ummmm ||raping them||
faint jasper
What does Egyptian mythology have to do with Greek
neon hornet
But it was cool cause these women received a bunch of nice gifts because they were exalted as being the bearer of godly seed and deserving of the gods attention
What does Egyptian mythology have to do with Greek
@faint jasper he means mythology in general
faint jasper
Cool
Well tbh I didn’t really read it since I couldn’t give two cares about Chaos’ sexual life.
neon hornet
There is a story I am pretty sure of zeus turning into a massive swan and ||raping a girl bathing nude in a spring||
wintry inlet
btw I'm sure Zag refers to chaos with singular "they"
faint jasper
Let’s uh stop talking about this
faint jasper
What was it?
neon hornet
So what, if I use these floor portals once I will meet him or am I gonna keep using them till I meet him
faint jasper
you see em every time
Every time you use it
God just use one and see for yourself
neon hornet
Like is it a one time deal or do I need to do it multiple times to receive his attention.
Is what I mean
neon hornet
OK I GET JT
neon hornet
I HAVE SEEN THEM THABK YOU MY QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED
200 TO 300 RUNS
INTO THE BREACH
Good bye
faint jasper
Ok
atomic forge
Hey guys I have something to ask
red bough
No
atomic forge
Is it worth to give ||Bouldy|| some nectar?
faint jasper
Erm no
It’s more of a meme
I’d only do it when I don’t have use for nectar anymore
faint jasper
Yw!
In runs he will give you tiny buffs though called heart of stone
The best one is probably +2% damage
But it’s not too much to make a difference
atomic forge
Aah that's what I heard about
wintry inlet
w8, i remember boon on +6% gold
that's actually not bad
for a nectar that you don't need
atomic forge
wintry inlet
i have other question though: when you give it you get +1 ❤️ with him
but can you max it out?
prime mulch
u cant bond with a rock
wintry inlet
pff, is that a rockshaming i see?
atomic forge
no one can stop me, imma get a relationship with this rock
prime mulch
sisyphus already did
atomic forge
ok I give up
atomic forge
woah that's insane
wintry inlet
imagine your vivid sexual life: threesome with a Bouldy when he rolls you both over, while inevitably falling down near the top of the hill
atomic forge
😳
grizzled siren
what'd I walk in on
prime mulch
ur mom
grizzled siren
boo, bad joke, get new material
prime mulch
says the snakehead
faint jasper
He’s not wrong
vivid owl
So...am I the only one confused by how Orpheus's gender is referenced?
grizzled siren
what do you mean?>
vivid owl
It looks and sounds like a woman. But refrenced as a male.
grizzled siren
he is male
faint jasper
He is voiced by a dude (voiced by same guy as Zagreus)
vivid owl
yea, my research shows the same. Why is he looking and sounding like a she?
faint jasper
Men also can have long hair.
vivid owl
oh cool! Thanks for that info
faint jasper
Yw
vivid owl
@faint jasper Lies!
vivid owl
but really, if you saw the picture, and heard the voice, would you think it was a male without any other info?
faint jasper
I knew he was Male before the game mentioned it
vivid owl
Well then...
faint jasper
Without knowing the tales before hand of course
vivid owl
I did some research I expected there to be gender discussion or something
Just the way the decided to do it I guess. I read to far into it.
faint jasper
And yes they are both voiced by Darren Korb
Both Orpheus and Zagreus
Orpheus is only voiced by Darren Korb when singing though
vivid owl
The voice actors are incredible. Beyond.
vivid owl
I never cared to listen to voice acting in games after reading the subtitles until this game
vivid owl
well..Apparently my dad wants to be a dick and not want to admit to me defeating him. I met my mom the first time today 🙂 39th play through
prime mulch
9 times left
grizzled siren
i mean to be fair
faint jasper
Pfft yeah he does that
vivid owl
Wait, where can I see my play stats?
faint jasper
Administration chamber
grizzled siren
you are in a public area and Hades needs to keep up the "there is no escape" thing going
faint jasper
You can but it at the house contractorrr
vivid owl
I gotta get one more gem for that.
faint jasper
Yes just beat that Hydra and you can get it! ^^
grizzled siren
if the shades found out that you can in fact escape from the underworld they'd all want to do it
vivid owl
alright. Thats my next goal. This is so cool. Nice chatting!
I dont wanna stick around here too long, spoilers is in the name of the channel hah
Take care y'all
faint jasper
Yeah. People post a lot of endgame stuff here. Okay bye! ^^
prime mulch
back to smacking random occupants of the underworld
grizzled siren
but ever think about how the one guard between the shades and the infernal weapons is skelly
vivid owl
I'm off! 🙂
faint jasper
Yeah Hades pretends it never happens because he doesn’t want anyone to know
vivid owl
I'll see what I can do about that
faint jasper
Yeah Skelly wouldn’t really protect them well.
prime mulch
clearly dad is a tsundere
grizzled siren
like what's stopping Joe Mama from just walking into Zagreus's bedroom. dude doesn't keep the door locked
faint jasper
Well they’re probably protected by some strange force
Since Hades mentions stuff about the weapons choosing him somehow
Good shade boss fight
Thank you for your continued support once again my good shade
grizzled siren
even then Hades has to summon enemies to stop Zagrues
faint jasper
Good shade is the best character
grizzled siren
What if a low profile shade just snuck out through the window
faint jasper
Better than Bouldy
prime mulch
u heard about dad boss fight, how about ur mom boss fight
faint jasper
Isn’t there literally Shades in Elysium? They could easily escape.
Like they could just fly out???
Fly past the dog???
prime mulch
why would they escape if they are in elysium in the first place
faint jasper
Wait if Zag dies to say the hydra the dog and the final boss wouldn’t even be there.
grizzled siren
well
faint jasper
So they just uh leave
faint jasper
Oh right
prime mulch
can the dog eat shades that walk through walls though
vivid owl
@faint jasper mind if I DM you? got a quick question and im sure you got the answer
winged hazel
u heard about dad boss fight, how about ur mom boss fight
honestly I thought that ||EM4 Hades would involve Persephone in some way||
grizzled siren
the only time we see certain NPCs in the house is when they are on break, it's just we manage to catch Cerberus on break more often the not
faint jasper
Sure! ^^
prime mulch
mom busy visiting granma@winged hazel
grizzled siren
the only time you are allowed to dm me is between the hours of 1 am and 12:59 am
prime mulch
send || ||
lost knot
I just completed the two battles to Charon but it didn't give the quest?
prime mulch
u need the rpophecy first from hermes
lost knot
I got it thats what im saying I have the task and I beat him two times in a row challenging him
rugged trench
I think I read that first time you beat Charon doesn’t count towards the streak, regardless of when you get the prophecy
prime mulch
u beat him again
zinc linden
Is that it
lost cypress
That's the entire game
prime mulch
do u skip the ending
lost cypress
Disregarding the beautiful story lore
prime mulch
and the pact
zinc linden
I met my mum yea
lost cypress
The entire re-playability of Hades relies on it's story and dialogue- new attacks and little extra things are added to keep you engaged
lost cypress
I remember the first time my friend told me I had to kill Hades over and over again 😂 #
zinc linden
Is complicated
prime mulch
i think he thought its another roguelite, where story is almost nonexistent
zinc linden
Nah i saw videos who said the story is good
I just got fed up and confused having to talk to 10 people after every run
lost cypress
@prime mulch I wouldn't blame them if they thought of it like that
zinc linden
Like i forget the story as its between runs
lost cypress
For me specifically, getting to see all the Olympians and experiencing Supergiant's interpretation of greek mythology gave me rushes
prime mulch
u need to beat the game 10 times at least for the normal ending
lost cypress
That's what got me hooked- then I stayed for the gameplay
prime mulch
turn on godmode if u feel its too hard
blazing pawn
Nah
zinc linden
Godmode?
blazing pawn
Best part about Hades is getting better at it.
prime mulch
some ppl gets too frustrated that they dont get enjoyment out of it
you can't judge them based on your experiences alone
fierce estuary
tbh i skip some of the dialogue
u can still understand the story if u read most of it
strong flax
omg i finally got the prophecy to start the party
high fossil
i really really REALLY hope ares (late-game side story spoilers) ||actually visits and shows up in the House of Hades, as a 3D character model/sprite, visiting Nyx. Please!||
halcyon terrace
They would have to let us fight in the house so we could ||punch him 
||
sharp tide
God I'd actually love Dialogue Logs. Like, I'm trying to write a fanfic, and I can't remember what Zagreus uses as a curse word, but I remember Hades saying two things are a curse.
fierce estuary
blood and darkness lol
dark parcel
Hey, I wasn't sure where else / how else to ask this? Curious if I can just ask a dev?
Is there any plans to increase how much darkness you can get?
It's 400k+ to max out everything according to the wiki, and at 120 hours I've completed everything in the game besides the titles, some mirror stuff, the 25k darkness upgrade, and like 10k gem comsetic stuff.
I've gotten 32k in 120 hours. Granted, that's heat farming, average 14 heat each weapon, but still it seems a bit much, even if I target farmed darkness it may be a very long time spent, 150-300+ hours of just running through the underworld shaking everyone down for their darkness? unless there's some method that's better than what I'm doing right now - (getting the boons that I can to boost darkness gain and running it fast as I can)
(Really enjoying the game a lot though! Just looking to complete it 100% and was curious about this.)
analog minnow
||When you meet Thanatos in Elysium I'm getting the pouty boyfriend "Why didn't you say goodbye to me, now die" vibe and I love it||
steady haven
Prophecy support, ||Does a Scyllascion not count towards the "very rare" part of that 25+ fish prophecy? I just submitted one, my total fish count is now up to 50, and it didn't pop.||
Also on another prophecy question, ||Does anyone have any tips for getting Poseidons Rip Current boon and Aphrodites Blown Kiss boon? I swear I've been trying to find them for ages but neither has shown up. I literally had 4 boons to find with Demeter and I found all of those before these two!||
never mind my first problem just got solved
proud urchin
okay, i gotta know || does giving bouldy nectar do anything? ||
fierce estuary
it gives a small buff but its not worth it unless u hv lots of nectar