#h1-story-discussion
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0.32s - rare, with a chance at legendary
0.64s - common, chance at rare
1.00s - common
unless it's been changed, which I doubt
there are some tricks to make it easier to get
to improve your reaction time
I don't have that kind of reaction time
for some people on this server, they have too fast reaction times and can never get common fish
Forget god mode where can I get fishing mode
I still don't have the common Chaos fish, Onyx
i still don't have the legendary chaos fish
https://gyazo.com/3c5d37607500cd19e8026952cc5a1168 i still dont have a single chaos fish at all, and its not like im not trying
xD
I'm doomed to never get those fish 
But in other things finished the ||epilogue and it was very nice but was I the only one expecting more art of the party then the shot of hades and Zeus?||
I have 4 chaos fish with like 150 hours
the first one was with the well of charon item that forces fish to spawn ad then going into chaos
actually i have 177 hours lol
Wait
The fishing is at a chance alongside timing?
yup
just realised that the fourth aspect of the fists appear on the noclip doc
I've heard 5%, someone recently posted 7% but that might've been Chaos spawn rates, not rarity rates
shakes fist when can we buy the super rod?
Damn, and I thought it was just that I was slow
He always is...
I guess the best next thing is to try to get the super rare Poseidon boon that makes fishing points appear more
You know in that update that introduced it and gave it to you forcefully I still didn't get almost any fishing points
i love when i get that boon and end up with half a dozen fish from elysium but still nothing in chaos, feels great, amazing
No more than I get on regular runs
yup
you've got to complete a favor for him
I can give you a hint if you'd like (or just tell you, up to you)
|| you also need to get Nyx up to her lock, and unlock the administrative chamber ||
sure thing ^.^
you don't
Is the ||EM4|| music on the soundtrack?
Does anyone know if there's any official upload of the ||painting you see at the end of the game||?
Been searching everywhere for it
Does anyone know if there's any official upload of the ||painting you see at the end of the game||?
@timid lodge It's in your ||dad's room||
Yeah, I am aware of that but I think it's gorgeous and would like it as a wallpaper haha. So I'd need to find it out of the game, but I've been informed by someone very kind!
Thank you, much appreciated
|| Probably Skelly or Meg, and then Sisy or Dusa. ||
huh, lemme check
hmm
it needs to be clarified
|| Nyx is the one who tells you how to find Sisy's contract. You don't need to bond with her, just get at least to her lock ||
at least, afaik
in my defense im bad at explaining things and have been putting off updating the long favours bc. words.
xD
i just kinda look at em and my eyes glaze over immediately
How do you tag for spoilers?can't remember
on desktop you can highlight and a spoiler icon will pop up, alternatively you can use this: ||text here|| which will spoiler tag what you say. it will work for links and spoiler the thumbnail, or you can also post links as <link here> to post a link without any preview thumbnail
yup!
here's the icon on desktop, for reference https://gyazo.com/eb284aa28565fd0cea1c8274647be69b
it does the same thing as ||just doing this|| so its better to just learn how to do that lmao
|| soo uh my Dusa questline might be bugged I've maxed her hearts but havent gotten the "bond forged" message ||
I'm on mobile btw
there's more dialogue after maxing hearts
Yo, quick question, does the check mark for the house contractor's work orders appear once you've done all the stuff? I'm pretty far in late game, did the missions, and have the ||themes ||but I don't have the check mark, despite having nothing else to buy. Anyone know if you get it once you buy everything?
you might need to do some more runs
I've done a couple and only get generic lines
I've done at least 10 runs after maxing
I should note || that on my save file which was from before 1.0 I hadn't finished the Dusa event to get her back from her losing her job I only finished that after 1.0 ||
honestly hard for me to say without running through on a new file, since i finished bond forged prior to 1.0 
I cant unlock beowulf
chaos wont talk to me bout it, even if I got the shield equipped
it can sometimes just take a few runs, even if you meet the conditions
I cant unlock beowulf
@atomic forge it happenes sometimes it took me 5-6 meetings before I got it
this happened to me when i was trying to unlock beo as well
@open tiger Yep
then if it's been more than a few runs, and you're not getting any important dialogue from Chaos, might want to 
||test||
the only weapon that you need to equip for the 4th aspect unlock is fists
i mean if you want to be technical about it, you don't need it equipped specifically for the waking phrase, but! having it equipped and having asterius comment on the fists themselves is required. same applies for shield and rail.
I didn't have a shield or rail equipped and they commented on the key phrase
you don't need it equipped specifically for the waking phrase
you're still required to have them acknowledge the weapon beforehand. i think you might need to check with chaos with a couple shield aspects though
hmm I see
do i have to fight theseus at max extreme measures for poseidon?
EM3
its a fun fight :)
good luck!
EM2 is probably the most fun of the bunch. With EM3 Theseus funnily enough becomes a bit easier even, Asterius is a whole different story.
ok so ||i just gave ambrosia to charon, and he was the first. now, a little while later, I find that i can "borrow" 300 coins from him while in Asphodel.||
will the punishment i assume comes from this last past when I die? like hurting a relationship or something
no relationship impact
cool, thanks
(also no relationship correlation)
||I JUST DID IT AND I AM FEELING FEAR||
hahahahaha
i like the theme that's playing rn tho
it’s a very neat remix ya
<text>
ah, nah ik how to do that
aight ^.^
nw
update: ||charon hits for big damage and i have no more death defiance||
in the north west room where you ||view the picture|| you can give ||keys and darkness for rank|| whats that all about?
||i beat him but he burned all my death defiance and i now have 15 hp but i have a credit card or something||
ayyy nice
i love me some ||charons big purple balls|| lol
Ok so I’ve hit the lock on Sisyphus, just met him again, and he said nothing about ||his punishment ||, he just introduced Bouldy to Zag
Yeah when I first fought him I lost all my DD in Tartarus, it took the bag forever to spawn and I was going to win gosh darn it, death defiance or no!
@jovial axle it might take a few runs
What am I doing wrong?
you also need to || give Nyx a bunch of Nectar ||
Oh, I’ve been doing that lol
Lemme finish this room and I’ll check ||how much nectar specifically ||
|| she needs to be at her lock, at least ||
||this run feels kinda boned even though i've been able to last the next couple rooms without dying||
I think 1 more
Neat
How to trigger divided by death... the free patroclus and achilles one
I already give them full nectar since run 25... now its run 120 but the quest never show up... is it a bug??
probably
that, and include your discord tag or email. Ask if one of the devs can check
:D
hectic asf
|| https://imgur.com/XiyO5hA || Hades throwing SHADE
when you use ||full bar hades call and shout out "FATHER" and he's like what??? during his fight|| is so good
also ||continuing to use bouldy and he's still incredulous each time||
HOLY CRAP IM SCARED OF ASTERIUS NOW
@vast basin I am always expecting some kind of ||Rock of Ages|| reference with that and it just won't happen sadly
so at first i thought my run was screwed ||because i lost all my death defiance to charon|| but i've come to discover that ||a twenty percent discount is kinda like really good and worth, if i play the fight a little smarter next time, if i can fight him again||
uh-huh :D
like my run has kind of recovered even though i had no DD left, but of course ||skelly's charm is very useful||
I hope i can clear the run since i have a streak of four right now, and that's my best so far
pray for Patroclus
might he appear and pick you back up, today I was less than 50 hp left and that gave me the boost i needed
well
think i saw a meme of that earlier today
Didn't get him sadly
I did get that athena boon that gives u one tho
I'm in the temple of styx right now
good luck then and hope you got authorities to roll more Athenas to get the other one
Whats the last memories
Is this the right place to ask about where to unlock a certain aspect?
check pins, doublenova!
ah I'll check it out
I guess I could ask too how do I get Hypnos to max hearts, it is driving me kind of crazy
plain RNG with events?
yeah mine is still stuck on that but it seems to be rng yeah
hypnos' favor is just watching his events, yeah
specifically his events about his job
I am stuck finding the last souvenir
well still got to do like 40 something runs most likely to get that "level up all keepsakes" achievement.... so I will wait (why does it exist?!)
i feel fear for those skelly achievements
@atomic forge || keep playing, it's locked behind story ||
@vast basin I haven't done 32, just 16, it is easier than it looks specially with the new ||EM4||
and 32 doesn't have achievement so...
I reaaaally lucked out with my build on my try yeah and still was almost done when it was over .-.
I mean, yeah that's an option. unless you mean god mode, which isn't cheating
fair
use a ranged weapon for your tries
think my heart would leap out trying a melee one, even shield xD
when you use ||full bar hades call and shout out "FATHER" and he's like what??? during his fight|| is so good
@vast basin i noticed that lol
I feel like im doing something wrong with not unlocking these 4th aspects
I finally have advanced the Achilles pat story a LITTLe Bit but when I ran through I didn’t. Get to see pat so what’s the point of playing the game

Let me reunite them dammit
patience 
I don’t care about successful runs I just. Want. Story

Does choosing GIVE UP from the menu kill you or reset the run
Cos if not I might just start doing that
reset
Also I uh. Borrowed money from Charon. That was fun LOL
nice!
I died tho and then everyone made fun of me :(
I also died cause I was both laughing and had a Chaos slow boon
Do keys do anything in the later part of the game after you’ve unlocked all the mirror stuff
Cos I’ve just been trading keys for nectar
Mm
To talk to as many ppl as possible
I guess they’re not hard to get
Since you can trade gems for them too
I should sleep it’s almost 5am
But I had to try to help my boy Achilles
if you want to know
very very late ||they give you UI looks||
and you are going to need like ||100 at least||
Beat the game, then do a few runs
Talk to ||Hades|| after every post-credits run
Only took me 2 runs
https://imgur.com/nr0Me3t
Y'all, I almost forgot this thing existed
tbh it's a really boring legendary sadly
yeah defs
I wonder how many casts do you need with stygian soul to cast non-stop.
i run stygian as well, it's good, but when a chaos boon can just give you half the effect of your legendary its unfortunate
it's around 6 iirc
i've done it before
4-6 somewhere in there
also faster recharge from Hermes
Yesterday i got the legendary right after i spurned her.
i got the ||credits ending|| when i had an INCREDIBLE dps build and honestly i was a little mad
It was kinda funny.
Artemis: youre lucky you arent here or i wouldve shot you myself.
Artemis: here's the legendary
Me: h?
like what i ||don't get to fight dad??|| i actually THOUGHT about this one!!!
if I knew about that @regal schooner I would have gone for a ||32 heat|| and cheese it lol
also was expecting something to happen ||on the credits|| like ||Demeter suddenly screaming pissed||
SAME
only ||4 heat|| on that one im not a leet gamer yet
I have two skelly statues but i dont think im going further
there's still the ||true epilogue|| to unlock i guess... already have 70 hours in this thing and it keeps going
it was ||the last run of the night for me, so i'm super glad i got it right then||
same here, wonder when I will get it
but as I have to get the damn keepsakes leveled, it can wait...
Just have to level the last one
I went nuts on leveling ||pom blossom|| because HOH thats strong
I'm going nuts on levelling it because I've had everything else maxed for a while, and it just looks wrong to have something not maxed
Thanks to it i had such a powerful coronacht special oriented build i managed to catch bountiful harvest early and then the keepsake just leveled my heroic boons
And i just wrecked everything
You know what peeves me
The empty slots in the keepsakes cabinet
Its just teasing with dlc npcs (I know dlc isnt sg's thing but)
Zag can't bear to look at it and fills it with rocks, pretty bugs and sticks he found and random garbage
for me it was a fist run... the game HATES giving me thirst on fists, so it felt like a slap on the face
I am like lemme ||fist Hades back to Tartarus|| but the game won't let me
I unlocked the 4th aspect and it is there sitting pretty like 10 runs after unlocking it
but that throne won't build itself!
Pick a dif wep
One run wont kill anyone stop thinking about darkness gemstone economy and go claw people in the face
😔
I thought like that before too, and leveled rail's heat up to 19
then the game was like "no more thirst for rail"
and update hit and so much stuff to make
well, until 18 it was, I had ONE run thirst for rail, that's why it is 19
after all the runs I made since near release and post release xD
hey, ive tried to get the final bosses 3rd phase on extreme measures 4 and every other boss seems to have it but not the last one, can anyone tell me why?
You need to complete a decent amount of runs
Then you can purchase EM4 from the contractor
since 1.0? hm im like at 5 or 4 right now
True ending is 10 runs
You are half way there. Unfortunately beta runa don't count.
wait wouldnt it be cooler if it was the final runs final 3rd phase boss?
Well you need to talk to Persephone 10 times.
or are u guys keeping it a secret ;)))
also does anyone know what persephones theme is called
I would like to cry to it
or sleep
any would do
On the coast
how much?
if you mean Heat wise, 4
a plain ||EM4|| run will give you 10 Heat
if you mean unlock cost, a really, really small amount of gemstones
Buying it is 100 gems to if thats what you ment
ok my experiment is sooo close to finish
i finally am at the end with 32 heat
now ending spoiler || lets hope the 10th ending really skips hades fight AND gives me the credit for finishing with 32 heat ||
if there's some ||Skelly special dialog please record|| cause I wonder if SG thought about that lol
|| am in credit right now. I did not got a win screen yet||
|| pog discord mods are in the credits||

||I had the same reaction to seeing the discord mods in the credits, you are all awesome and amazing
||
|| ohh persephone look fresh in that new outfit ||
WOO BEAT EV3 THESEUS
uhh do i just get a poseidon boon?
or will i have to do another run
IT WORKED || no spezial text from skelly XD BUT i unlocked all 3 statues SO IT WORKED HYPE ||
so it borked it?
borked?
the ||no special text|| bit
yep || no spezial text ||
guess I am doing that when I do Hell Mode then xD
hell mode is fun
but i think i could have done it normally XD
had 2 dd and full hp left. not the best at the fight but it could have been possible
well time to go back and do 2 heat runsXD
Does the run show up in admin?
yes
i posted the screenshot in #h1-victory-boasting
|| but you do not get the usual victory screen ||
may eb a good thing toughXD
how to open secret stashes?
hmm, ||being able to abuse the story event to skip hades could cause weird stuff for high heat||
hi guys i have unlocked final ending, have more than 3 aspects unlcoked but still have not unlcok guan yu
may i ask what i am doing wrong?
you need 5
i need to unlock 5 aspects?
yes, read the pinned messages here ^_^
they have the unlock conditions for the 4th aspects
so I just got to the true ending, and I have to ask, is there a ||full-res version of the family painting from the ending available somewhere? I'd love to have that as a background||
i dont have the aspect of guan yu tho
@ornate siren || well you dont get the real win screen. so just add as requirement that you need to have a screenshot of the real winscreen to let the run count ||
@wintry goblet ||ah, then it's all fine||
ahhhhhh thank god. finally got the ||epilogue||
question. If I decline to take back the nectars from Dusa, does anything happen?
like, does it change anything major if i decline or accept, or is it just "you get your nectars back"
alright then
did I have to spoiler tag my question?
I didn't think it was considered endgame stuff
nah you're fine
I tend to over-tag things as a courtesy
so in general, if you tag as much as I do, you'll be good, but you don't need to because I tag things that aren't true spoilers so much as they're potential spoilers
@heady horizon Hi, did you finally get the F.R. prophecy? I already have my relationships with them maxed out, so i don't know if there is a secret element on the list I'm lacking or something.
So, uhh, I either choose Megaera, Dusa or Thanatos, is it that simple?
you can have all three
So I can choose to pursue relationship with both Meg and Dusa, for example? What if I choose to stay friends?
you stay as friends
It feels like a love triangle rn, I guess I'll accept Meg for the time being and hope Dusa will join us, lol
No consequences for choosing whoever or all or none
Who is ||Add'l||? I saw their voice in the credits. I've just finished ||extremer measures||.
addional
yeah, it's just short hand for additional, as in additional characters not explicitly listed
Ok, cool. I spent a good few minutes googling the name and wondering what greek legend it was from, and when they would show up.
gotta hand it to Nemati
his voice acting rly makes me wanna slap theseus across the face
surprised to find out he also voices my favorite god dio
Is the Well Stocked achievement bugged?
Because I bought at least 12 items from the wells and didn't get it.
I don't think so: I got it just this last run
Does the || mirror in hades' bedroom do anything currently?||
@vague sparrow Not really
anyone have requirements for epilogue, the pin just tells you to figure it out yourself
im at max hearts with ||persophone and hades || and i suicided until i ran out of dialogue options for them
also beat a run after, but havent done extreme measures 4
Is there anyway to make patroclus more likely to spawn on elysium??
@fossil bane Not really
feels like a bug... I managed to get all achievement except for the achilles and patroclus
they just don't want to be saved
@woven jewel This is just my hunch but ||I think the requirements for epilogue is to also max the olympians bonds as well||
hmm
I don't know the requirements myself, but its definitely not maxing ||Hades and Persephone|| since I got epilogue waaay before that
How to max euridyce heart??
Everytime I got to her room... he always with orpheus and I can't give her the last ambrosia
That's just bad rng 😅
I'm going through something similar with ||Persephone|| she's almost never alone
Maybe I free them too fast
should have hold them much longer
maybe thats why my last free mission never show up too
it's weird to comes this far only to be bugged out
Its not bugged, since it's really rng
It's definitely true that sometimes the "conversations queue" seems to get full up of stuff it wants to do [other than the thing you want]
you ever look at the faces on hades room door and think to yourself
man these skulls look like that one wojak
poggers
||"Whew, well, that was... That was... ahem."
Same, Zag. ||
so for the hidden aspects it says in the pin
||- Stygius: Aspect of Arthur. Unlock the Aspect of Guan Yu, then invest at least 5 Titan Blood into any Blade aspects. Nyx should tell you more in a conversation soon after that.||
so does this mean that ||if I already invested 5 titan blood before unlocking Guan Yu it doesnt count?||
Do u have to have max Feather keepsake for Dusa room event?
I still haven't gotten the dusa room event even tho dusa no longer has exclamation mark everytime i return to house
You dont
I've heard it needs to be when both dusa and than are present in the house, this true?
just worried cause she doesnt seem to have anymore unique dialogue as of now
so does this mean that ||if I already invested 5 titan blood before unlocking Guan Yu it doesnt count?||
@distant topaz ||if you invested them in Blade then it count.||
Alrighty, one more achievement to go. That Well thingy worked out on the second try.
Finally. got the dusa room event... took so long
When is Dusa's favour fulfilled? I have bought both of the House Repair Upgrades for the Lounge and a ton of other House Decor upgrades yet the prophecy remains unfulfilled 🤔 The Wiki says one needs to buy 12 upgrades including the House Repair ones 🤔
@bright epoch as in to unlock giving her ambrosia or to establish bond (which i just literally did)
for ambrosia, iirc it needs to be specifically lounge upgrades
you need to go on a few runs even after you fulfil the requirements
it didn't trigger straight away for me, I had most of the lounge unlocked
it didn't trigger straight away for me, I had most of the lounge unlocked
@oak furnace Alright thanks!
LOL
so
i am facing the minotaur for the 500th time
and i'm ||asking him an autograph||
that's such a meme
Is it really full on RNG when it comes to the dialogue with certain gods that unlock the hidden aspects or is there a trigger apart from satisfying the obvious criteria? I've been waiting for Chaos' and Artemis' line to pop up forever...
Have u done the spear first?
so i just bought a yarn of ariadne before the champion ifght
i got a nice easter egg
its funny
also TIL what the yarn of ariadne actually is
it's just RNG conversation if you have the conditions unlocked
its the thing theseus used to guide him through daedalus' labyrinth to find Asterios iirc
iirc yo have 3 different conversations for the yarn
sad that the bad call achievement doesn't unlock ||using hades' greater call against him...|| i did it three times in one battle
trial of the gods never lasts long enough for me to build up to greater call
also legit annoyed my ||two charon wins|| didn't complete the fated prophecy... i can't seem to beat him now
it specifically states during a god trial but i know what u mean
soooo i just had the conversation to unlock the aspect of Coronacht:, i finish the run and go back to my weapons and zag says nothing....what now?
So, I'm a little behind in term of progress to a friend that started earlier, he has already unlocked ||the final aspects of almost each weapon|| and he told me that when ||persephone came back in the underworld|| he already had like 4 weapons unlocked, while I have none yet, why is this? ||Some of the npcs already talked about the weapons, but no unlocks||
There should be a pinned comment about this in this channel
But of you want it from me it's: ||Unlock 5 weapon aspect and then you will eventually get a phrase to unlock the spear hidden aspect. After that you have to invest at least 5 blood into a weapon you want to unlock the aspect of. And investing means leveling up a weapon, not unlocking an aspect.||
Oh you're right

broo i thought i won the game when the hades is down, but surprise phase 2 is just
;aerhgnbouenohgnbaejhngjeprjgjaerg
Yeah man
I was like "damn I got him first try" and then it's just like "please don't let him have a second phase. Oh dammit"
do i need to put a bunch of nectar into achil to unlock guan yu?
i've unlocked tons of aspects
Nope
It's rng dialogue
If you have other quests or story related dialogue with achilles it just makes it more unlikely
zagreus aspects don't count btw
Is it explained in the story who actually Skelly is and who is his contractor?
No spoilers please
it is yes
Do I need 32 heat for that?
no
And I assume him being ||Schelemeus|| is a false lead
Mind games
i'm wily that way
That's skelly
So rosie was Skelly all along?
💀
I’m stuck, I got the 4th sword aspect and I can’t get past boss 3
What boons should I be looking for?
For sword 4, aphrodite on main is a good one
She has the highest damage bonus and sword 4 is all about high single hits on its main attack
Probably should pick up ||Demeter|| at some time so Theseus can’t use her
Wait Aphrodite has the best damage bonus?!
Also if the slow move is a problem for you, you can try and stick to dash attacks
Yes she dies
Does
Lol I’d expect Ares or Poseidon to have that
Would the ||Sigil of the Dead|| be good?
Posiedon gets a lot of damage from wall slams
I forget what ||sigil of the dead|| does, if you're looking for a specific build for sword 4 ask in #h1-builds-and-combat
Oh
Athena dash is generally very good from what I hear
please spoiler tag ||new keepsakes||
Best dash
I’m just curious, Why are we spoiler tagging stuff in this channel?
I get why we do it in other channels, but why in this one?
In general
I assume so people that don't want to be spoiled don't get spoilef
Spoiled
what do i need to get blown kiss?
ok soo I got the ||credits finally. I will admit I got close to crying||
Yeah ending is qte
i swear to hades if theseus calls me blagerd one more time
I can't give ambrosia to Than for some reason
Do I have to beat him a certain amount of times ?
I'm getting annoyed bruh lemme court Death
ugh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YO ||ASTERIUS|| GAVE ME THE 4TH GAUNTLETS ON MY FIRST TIME MEETING HIM ||ALONE|| AFTER ||ACHILLES|| GAVE ME 4TH SPEAR
I didn’t even know he was the guy that did that, I‘m actually trying to do a 4th sword run lol
ive unlocked everything except the 4th gaunts and ive met asterius maybe 10 times, and nothing
My only tip is don’t do runs where you are aiming for the gauntlets, try to aim for a different goal and enter the mini boss room when you find it
That way it’s not a big loss if Asterius doesn’t give them over
Have her chaos story line oiled up tho
I’m trying to get ||Sisyphus summon|| and Nyx gave me the sword instead lol
Well I'm trying to get both
After how stressful ||Guan Yu|| was I’m not really aiming for 4th aspects
I just accept them as they come
Also achilles and orpheus don't seem so keen on being reunited
Guess I'm gonna ice out my sword with those diamond then
It's the last I need
Normal spot and idk how to trigger it
It was my first one however, so it might be necessary to unlock the others
I just need Nyx...
the requirements are pinned
But the past 5 runs she’s been pre-occupied by something else
spear 4th aspect being available for unlock is also a prerequisite for all the other aspects
So I can’t get ||Orpheus and Eurydice, Achilles and Patroclus, or Sisyphus||
Same
2 of those have been someone talking to her, 2 of them have been her being away from the house, and 1 was giving me the aspect of Arthur
Bad luck streaks
spoilered just in case even though its pretty early game conversation but, were these options changed in 1.0? does anyone remember what they used to be? i only remember one of them used to be the song of achilles
Is there any prereqs to unlocking Nyxs and Megara's hearts
I got Skully and Orpheus down
and I have an idea about what to do with Achilies
For megada you gotta beat the furies couple times I think
Nyx has to do with chaos
||You have to reunite them. I have both their relationships up to their locks, though I don't know if that's required. After a few lines of dialogue you have to pay darkness in the admin room to unlock a passageway so the can meet||
As far as I knoe
Know
@frozen jolt you are extremely lucky i screenshot like nearly anything and everything in the game https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357344472880644118/759842156206227486/20191215173548_1.jpg
is epilogue just ||Zeus and Hades shaking hands?||
Maybe
:DDD thank you tatz
tatz is homer
i cannot help my thirst for lore and needing to record it
about one of the hidden keepsakes ||Jesus christ, i was watching admiralbahroo and I just saw what happens when you use Hades's call aganist him... LMAO||
yeah they have at least 2 voicelines for it ||Zagreus shouts "Dad!" and Hades shouts "Son!"||
it's quite funny ngl
i still need their keepsake
i also shouldn't have spoiled myself by reading that
it wasn't a big spoiler, as I figured the last keepsake would be || hades || after getting || persephone's ||
why i cant unlock bow legendary aspect i did everything
I think it's mostly random, I got mine and only have one aspect maxed
it's just RNG if you already did everything
How do you unlock EM4 ? I can see it in my pact of punishment but cant activate it at lvl 4
Do you need to beat heat 32 ?
does meg show up if you dont fight her?
im trying to trigger the dialogue about freeing sisyphus
talked to hades about it already
@pearl vessel I dont have any work order for it
I only have the ones for the new menu themes
@hallow pivot she doesn't show in the House until you fight her
kk
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so close to beating ||extremer measures||
got him down to 25% ||on the last phase||
I don't know if I can do this, what a rough fight
So curious, What does Hell mode actually do anyways?
I think it starts you at Heat 5
ooooo
There's a Hell Mode exclusive Pact option
how do i get the epilogue? do i need to do anything special?
aight
I've heard || 10 || times, but that has not been verified
does extreme measures play into it at all?
it was 10 for the ending where you take the boat down
are you saying it's 10 more on top of that?
Has anyone had trouble getting final aspects for some? I've triggered dialogue so many times and I just can't seem to get the right one.
wait what for me it was 5 to get the boat down
How do you get Cerberus bond? I give him all the pets lolol
More pets
for me, cerberus i had to pet many times then the achievement didn't proc until i left the room
and then the next time i saw him after a run i could embrosia him
That sounds about right.
Is there more story after ||Persephone returns from Olympus||?
Must just be range
I haven't gotten to the point ||where I can gift ambrosia to Persephone|| but other than that I don't think there is more story.
there's an ||epilogue|| which took MANY runs after that for me
||What Im referring to is after the epilogue||
Yeah, I got that.
oh, probably nothing, which is kinda dumb cause it's pretty anti-climatic after the ending
that means you're getting there
was not expecting that
just need to talk to Orpheus again after that
epilogue spoilers: ||the pre-run shpiel from hades being the whole "where would you even go? what would you have me do? your place is here" and zag now just responds to the memory with "he's right" lmao||
got a big kick out of that
Dang, that sounds amazing. I guess I have to keep playing until that triggers for me.
Yeah looks like thats it
It feels a bit anti-climatic, but then again thats probably because I played it from EA onwards
And as a result was able to reach the end much faster
It felt similar for me. Luckily I still have a bunch of currency to earn and spend, and heat-conditions to clear.
Just got the True Ending... oh my god
That last redacted fight 👀
Who also wrote all the songs in the game. Yeah.
and sings orpheus
indeed.
and i'm pretty sure he's the sound director too lol

I do want to hear a Skelly cover of good riddance
@wispy spoke || they won't see those yet || (about #h1-for-new-players )
Probably not, yeah. ||It's phase 2 after all||
really? is that only on ||heat|| or something?
No, but they'll ||probably die before they reach phase 2. He doesn't spawn them in phase 1.||
how to get fourth gloves?
Check the pinned message.
@calm lance check the pins
can u rate it from 1-10
personally? 7-8
most people? seems like 3-6, based on #hades-feedback
it's not Demeter but it's nice
I prefer Talos over it, but you can do some really cool stuff
i dont get the hype over the fourth shield
it got indirectly nerfed
Yeah, Talos is still my favourite also. But the 4th aspect is pretty cool.
chaos shield is just too good
I like demeter because big number go bonk, but 4th glove still feels too quirky and risk-reward
or did it also get nerfed
4th fists aspect is great but you need to swap default keybinds of cast and special for it (every weapon really but this one in particular) to be good
I honestly don't get how that one got to 1.0, Q is awful for something you can spam and RMB is awful for something that has a relative cooldown
I've only ever played with LMB Attack, RMB Special and side button Cast
just feels more natural
yeah it was bugging me for a very long time
I mostly play mobas or similar games so it's probably just muscle memory for me though.
then I bit the bullet and it got better
but you still have to aim cast and I guess the logic here is "binds that aim go on mouse"
I'm lefthanded so I got some weird binds in a lot of games
aiming can be rough so I tend to go for boons/skills that aim for me hah
I guess in a way gaming helps me become a bit more ambidextrous
@faint jasper any companions in particular?
Oh what is that?
|| killing him with the sword once it has enough blood in it ||
can someone help me? I have to reunite ||Orpheus and Euridice and Nyx told me that the sentence should be in the admin chamber but I can't find it?||
@atomic forge do a run
Blood is hard to get
i did several
Zero, did Nyx || give you a specific location? ||
like, || a bunch of greek letters? ||
no, just told me to check in the ||Admin office||
hmm
I think she needs to give you that specifically
lemme check something real quick
alright, i'll keep beating the game i guess
if it goes much longer without any ❗ dialogue from Nyx, probably 
from what i remember it took a while ||for her to say where it was after saying it should be in the admin office||
Is there any good way to get a fishing spot in chaos or is it totally up to chance
I love this game so much, but trying to trigger the epilogue has been so incredibly frustrating. I wish there were concrete requirements that we knew of. I'm 110 runs in and it's really bumming me out.
i only got the ||epilogue|| yesterday and yeah it took a bit
make sure you've bonded with the olympians, they're the key to advancing
honestly i worked on everyones hearts and getting at least all the olympic gods maxed that i coul-yeah
What unlocks Demeter?
post epilogue
Thats the one i dont have
I'm bonded with most of them up until the lock at the end. Can't figure out some like Zeus and Aphrodite
demeter isnt possible until post epilogue
Oh
think the only one i didnt have maxed beside demeter was artemis at the time when it prompted
Might give hades a rest then for a bit
Cause i doubt im getting that anytime soon
I think now i only need a bond on Cerb and ||Perse|| and then I have everyone except Demeter
Just maxed ||Dad|| today
aphrodite you need to focus on the romanceable characters, zeus requires you basically hear a bunch of rumours about him from the other gods. iirc you can get these to pop up by having his boon first and the others will sometimes comment. theres some required demeter dialogue too but as long as you're talking to everyone it should come up
Appreciate the tips. I'll give these a shot
Epilogue has a few requirements
im trying to do hammer icons rn but after this run i'll get back to working on favour related things
One thing that can be a real roadblock
Is that you need two specific voicelines
That involve picking one god after another god
Oh no.
Oh lol, I must have gotten those randomly. Because the epilogue really took me no time at all.
Well, it depends on whether you reroll a lot or not
If not
Youll probably get it sooner or later
I rarely reroll, because the randomness makes me try out new and interesting things. Also I often cannot decide whether I want something or not.
Can i ask for the requirements or is that still under the rugs
Oh im a rerolling master gambler
Except the one time Chaos noticed I was rerolling scared me
... now I want to start rerolling to get that voiceline
||Me: Ah i dont want any of those. rerolls
Chaos: ... This, then?
Me:
Me: mom come pick me up i'm scared||
chaos might be my favorite character in the game
chaos is so cool
they're just freaky and weird enough while also having some real personality
Though my favourite was the coincidence of me rerolling a few times and ending up w the thing i was supposed to have from the start, and Chaos going ||Predictable.||
"Among the infinite possibilities, let me present you only these three."
Such a good line.
which is better
death defiance or stubborn defiance
they sound like the same effect
They arent
Stubborn is better if youre on a harder difficulty or just starting out
Otherwise, death defiance
Ofc personal preference is a thing
Also on the previous convo before i leave: i love how despite them being their own people w flaws and good bits and funny lines you can still tell that characters are gods
Like, Zeus? My weird uncle. Can he be terrifying? Yes.
Death defiance also meshes really well with Athena so it's not that punishing to lose a life on the way to the top
wait Zeus is the weird uncle and not Poseidon?
Both are.
If I max out the relationship with Dusa, does it block any conversations with other characters?
She has a little bow with hearts next to it and I was wondering if it meant I had to pick one person to couple with.
just a question on the patro achilles quest ||do i just keep doing runs til i can talk to nyx to get the contract?||
@spare remnant you can romance all romanceable characters or choose some or turn them all down, theres no consequences.
Cool cool cool
:+1:
Depends on at which point of that questline you are at @elder forum. ||Did Achilles already ask you to try and get him to visit Patroclus?||
||i talked to him already and achilles asked me to get his contract||
||so uh.. pretty sure i just had sex with meg||
||just havent had a chance to talk to nyx yet shes always in another convo or something||

what
2 on each side
|| ||text|| ||
Yeah, with that and ||access to the administrative chamber|| you really just have to do enough runs to ||get Nyx to tell you where the contract is.||
o thanks
huh
So, after sorting out ||Orpheus and Eurydice's contract||, is it normal to not get ||Eurydice|| in Asphodel for the next 4 runs or so? I'd like to be able to unlock ||her relationship guage|| but I've not had a chance since...
its just rng
Yeah, you have to get lucky for him not to be there also.
I've not even had any of instances, let alone the one with ||both of them||.
(I mean, I'm also grumpy that I've not seen ||Patroclus|| in that long in Elysium, either.
)
Oh, that is really unlucky.
yea i had patro and eurydice in my last run lul
Well, maybe they'll both happen together in my next run too 😄
I totally forgot about the weird requirement for Poseidons heart unlock
Catch enough fishes, one has to be rare. I think that was it.
I had all three exclamation mark encounters in my last run
I am working on that too... what's the weird bit? ||It's just catch enough fish and catch one before you talk to him, yeah?||
Felt real good
Yeah, getting the timing on that ordering is wierd
Oh, I guess I got that then back when the first chamber was bugged to have a super high chance of fish spawn.
perfect catches are important 👍
Perfect catches are impossible [for me], apparently, so I'm glad they're not a requirement.
(I can live without the Minor Prophecy)
||am i really supposed to just pet spam him lul||
Yes.
wow
Yup
And then do another run and talk to him.
i even got the achievement for petting him a bunch
You need say... twice as much as that
dang
welp back to ||petting|| i guess
i hope its not like the lyre where its like you hav to do it a bunch after each run lul
Pet the damn doggo lol
It just happened naturally for me, given he gets 1 pet from me every run [and I didn't max him out with Nectar until after run 70...]
are there any additional requirements for triggering the keyphrases on the final aspects? I've spent the required titan blood, done several runs now but nothing been said
check the pinned messages in this channel
question, in this channel i can talk about any spoilers? because i reached something that is near the end of the game, at least i think it's near the end of the game, and i want to know how much is further than that
I mean, you could always put it in spoiler tags if you're worried
(If you've not done that before, it's a pair of | either side of your comment. So | | stuff | | but with the |'s directly adjacent.)
|| let me try it first ||
|| i just hit the credits and got Persephone back in Hades, aproximately how many succesfully runs until i hit the epilogue? in the pinned message says that they get them in twelve, they get them in just twelve because they is good, or that is the required runs needed? ||
it comes down to more than a certain # of runs, its highly dependent on where you are in your relationship with the olympians. theres other requirements but thats the big main one
|| okay, thanks for the information, i will go to do more runs tomorrow, i did almost all the ten runs in the weekend to hit credits ||
||So so long i have olympians maxed, i should be fine?||
so i made it to the surface and died, is that the final boss or is there more beyond that?
you can do more runs to keep on uncovering plot
oh ok i was worried that was it, that was my 8th or 9th try
||there's more, only not in the Defeating Bigger Badder Guys sense||
Also, that's super impressive for your 8th go
and being your 8th or 9th try it's still worth playing for the myriad of things still left to discover
Hello and where may I find the quotes that Zag says to unlock each weapon's fourth aspect
and being your 8th or 9th try it's still worth playing for the myriad of things still left to discover
@marsh prawn yeah, there's a lot more to the story than just "the main run".
Hello and where may I find the quotes that Zag says to unlock each weapon's fourth aspect
@daring hound depends on the weapon
each one has its own requisites
but if i recall correctly every weapon needs you to unlock the guan yu lance aspect
Can you get a chaos fish in chamber 2?
I'm killing myself in the first room to see if it can spawn
I had one spawn in chamber 4 one time, but when I gave up it didn't respawn
I imagine the chance for one resets every time you enter?
Or are there other rules about their spawn?
Hello and where may I find the quotes that Zag says to unlock each weapon's fourth aspect
@daring hound check story and spoilers channel pinned messages
@steep drift thanks! but I I’m gonna partially blame it on rng, the build I had was pretty insane. I definitely plan to keep playing the game is just so satisfying
hm anyone know how to unlock hypnos' gauge
hm anyone know how to unlock hypnos' gauge
@elder forum ||gotta listen to convos between him and than and mediate on a little situation||
||dang i never see them talk||
after you give him all the nectar required it should happen naturally
just gotta keep doing runs
kk thx
np
@quartz helm The pins do not help in this regard.
you just need to keep doing runs and wait for the dialogue from whatever person you need it from
https://ibb.co/THDL2K8
Bless us, the faithful worshippers of the 10k Ice Wine!
oh god I don't wanna be whoever is in that cloud of pain
You can get both the festive fog duos at the same time? 😮 That's amazing!
scintillating + ice wine = win
AND I had Minotaur Rush + Charged Shot + Artemis attack boon, so when I nailed the power shot I was doing like 15k crits. I kinda felt bad for Hades, showing up with scint and ice wine and the best aegis combo. tch, tch.
i love doubling up on ice win and scintillating feast if i go trippy shot
whats the 9th miniboss in the prophecy list?
I'm not having trouble killing it, im having trouble finding it.
Whats the 8th and 10th one? I cant tell if thats Styx or elysium
it should be styx
8th and 10th are styx
as soon as i get out of this run i can find what they are
i thought it would have been tiny vermin but its not cause i fought that thing like 10 times already
Wels theres tiny vermin , elite green pot, purple snakestone, big gray rat
Theres a satyr one too I think
guess its beeg rat
tiny vermin doesn't count as a miniboss for whatever reason
prob cause it has an actual death animation
Yup, a big satyr also exists.
actually, satyrs blow. darts. at you, specifically
i have to say i probably dislike big stone the most
especially without an armor killer
wait this is story channel
||does anyone know if hades says something if full call during trial||
I really thought they spitted at Zagreus, didn't know they were darts... xD
@jade slate he does
whats he say
the exchange goes ||"Father!" - "what???"||
||i wanna know but i dont wanna touch that keepsake ever again||
oh thats normal though
i meant during double boon trials
|| I just got the dialog where hypnos gives Meg advice on 'not dying.' amazing!! ||
oh hey thats neat ||Zagreus can become employee of the month now, Im assuming only after you become the official escaper||
guys
[03:42]
what remains to unlock in the endgame
[03:43]
i need the infernal sword
[03:43]
how can i get it ?
check the pins in this channel
the one thing that REALLY irks me is that unlocking weapons is a LOT about RNG.
currently doing runs to get gun 4, can agree
I'm not sure I have the pre-requisite conversation with zeus, do I need to use zag exagryph to get it?
Weapon and aspect doesn't matter. Just getting the conversation does.
alright cool
was wondering if that was why I didn't have it
I've had a few runs featuring zeus now and I still don't have it
I know have enough blood invested because I have eris 3 and zag 1
Ahaha! ||I finally beat Extreme Measures IV!||
Good freaking job, dawg!
For ||Cerberus|| favor, can you ||pet|| him all in one go or only across multiple runs
How far do I have to go to get Meg to show up?
She’s the last component I need for ||Sisyphus’s summon||
when you take a proper shower
and dress properly
gotta learn to charm the ladies my dude
Hey does anyone know if you can use any fist aspect for unlocking final fist aspect?
you don't need to wear fists to get 4th fists' waking phrase
I killed a fury and died in the first room if Asphodel, and Meg wasn’t there and Zag didn’t comment on it
meg needs to be there to show up in the house
I got the waking phrase while doing my first Arthur run
I feel like my game is bugged for final fist aspect, it's never the right dialogue
I’ve killed other furies and Meg was there though
It’s luck
||Asterius|| gave it to me at the earliest he possibly could, while I heard that others are still looking for it
My tip, do a run that’s not focused on the fists
That way it won’t be aggravating if you don’t get them and a surprise when you do
yeah I was just force using them to ensure the dialogue, but apparently the wep doesnt matter?
now I kinda got a little burnt out from them lol
About Meg, I could have sworn that she appeared after a run where I killed Alecto
Hermes just asked me to defeat Charon twice in a row. Does this have to be in one run or can it be over a couple of runs as long as I don't lose to him?
I think the second one
I don’t think it’s possible to fight him twice in a single run
Has anyone else noticed that the audio for Orpheus when ||speaking with persephone|| is off?
Starting a new game has fixed a few of my issues
Y'know... ||after doing the "quest" in which Zagreus gifts invitations to the Olympian gods through the boons,|| I kinda wish that was made more of a thing, since we only see the conversations/messaging to kinda go one-way rather than be like a mystical "phone call."
I can't believe I have gone through the ||epilogue|| achievement already and still blasted Hypnos won't unlock me to give him Ambrosia
Will a Extreme Measures 1 run give me Meg at the house guaranteed?
@jovial axle how do you mean "at the House"?
I literally need to talk to her one single time to get the thing for ||Sisyphus||
And she suddenly just refuses to show up
I'd recommend just dying repeatedly until she finally shows up. Extreme Heat 1 will just make the first boss have support from the other sisters. It won't force Meg to be in the lounge.
Drat
yeah... I'm still hoping to get ||Persephone|| to unlock her final heart/s so I can cap her up and get her little badge in the keepsakes box.
Is it possible to miss post-clear story dialogue? I've been clearing pretty consistently since picking the game up again for 1.0, and Nyx and Hades sometimes talk about other topics (The Dusa subplot, comments on weapon aspects) instead of about ||Persephone||. I'm worried I might miss something.
(play with em1 more)
Do I need hearts with the Olympians in order to unlock ||the epilogue||?
I got her to the locked heart and I think that takes preference unfortunately
does the ||bonus damage from than's trinket|| keep after you unequip it
nope, you have to have it on
darn, but okay
Do you have to win a run with your newest 4th form weapon to get your next weapon to upgrade?
No one will talk to me about my sword or shield
no, it's just rng
it's RNG and you can unlock it while having another weapon equipped
got 4th fists and 4th rail while not having them equipped
I got gloves while in the middle of a 4th sword run
^ what he said. don't listen to anyone who tells you otherwise
Ok it's just I've talked to Chaos 4 times since preparing the shield
Nyx is talking to everyone
it's like... apparently rng because the weapon unlock conversation flags isn't something that takes priority over... god knows what
but I talked to the correct god for rail repeatedly throughout my attempts to unlock 4th rail while having a rail equipped and there was nothing
then he gives me the thing next run
some people do
the wiki is run by the community, so if the community doesnt edit it, it doesnt get updated. but most people either dont know how to edit or find it intimidating
I'm just being vague because I don't feel like tagging spoilers
I wonder if they aren't talking because I may have lined up my wins too perfectly
I got my first win with sword
2nd with 4th spear
I don’t want to edit because it posts you IP address IIRC
And the last 11 runs straight so plot dialog
...I hate Alecto and Tisiphone
I like Al
alecto's annoying because she's got a lot of invuln phases



