#h1-story-discussion

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solemn lagoon
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I don't have that kind of reaction time

open tiger
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0.32s - rare, with a chance at legendary
0.64s - common, chance at rare
1.00s - common

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unless it's been changed, which I doubt

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there are some tricks to make it easier to get

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to improve your reaction time

drifting citrus
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I don't have that kind of reaction time
for some people on this server, they have too fast reaction times and can never get common fish dusa

vast basin
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Forget god mode where can I get fishing mode

open tiger
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I still don't have the common Chaos fish, Onyx

drifting citrus
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i still don't have the legendary chaos fish

open berry
open tiger
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xD

solemn lagoon
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I'm doomed to never get those fish shadegrief

balmy verge
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Sand

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Same

vast basin
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But in other things finished the ||epilogue and it was very nice but was I the only one expecting more art of the party then the shot of hades and Zeus?||

distant pike
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I have 4 chaos fish with like 150 hours

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the first one was with the well of charon item that forces fish to spawn ad then going into chaos

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actually i have 177 hours lol

solemn lagoon
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I have 5 chaos fish iirc I know I have 3 mati

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2 Projelly

delicate dew
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Wait
The fishing is at a chance alongside timing?

open tiger
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yup

distant pike
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just realised that the fourth aspect of the fists appear on the noclip doc

drifting citrus
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yes

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5% i believe for the upper tier

open tiger
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I've heard 5%, someone recently posted 7% but that might've been Chaos spawn rates, not rarity rates

vast basin
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shakes fist when can we buy the super rod?

delicate dew
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Damn, and I thought it was just that I was slow

open tiger
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you gotta find the fisherman who gives it to you

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he's on another route

vast basin
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He always is...

solemn lagoon
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I guess the best next thing is to try to get the super rare Poseidon boon that makes fishing points appear more

open tiger
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lmao

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that boon is harder to get than fishing points

solemn lagoon
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You know in that update that introduced it and gave it to you forcefully I still didn't get almost any fishing points

open berry
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i love when i get that boon and end up with half a dozen fish from elysium but still nothing in chaos, feels great, amazing

solemn lagoon
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No more than I get on regular runs

open tiger
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yup

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you've got to complete a favor for him

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I can give you a hint if you'd like (or just tell you, up to you)

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|| you also need to get Nyx up to her lock, and unlock the administrative chamber ||

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sure thing ^.^

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you don't

solar heron
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Is the ||EM4|| music on the soundtrack?

autumn void
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yes

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titled "The Unseen Ones"

timid lodge
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Does anyone know if there's any official upload of the ||painting you see at the end of the game||?

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Been searching everywhere for it

night rapids
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Does anyone know if there's any official upload of the ||painting you see at the end of the game||?
@timid lodge It's in your ||dad's room||

timid lodge
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Yeah, I am aware of that but I think it's gorgeous and would like it as a wallpaper haha. So I'd need to find it out of the game, but I've been informed by someone very kind!

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Thank you, much appreciated

open tiger
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|| Probably Skelly or Meg, and then Sisy or Dusa. ||

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huh, lemme check

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hmm

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it needs to be clarified

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|| Nyx is the one who tells you how to find Sisy's contract. You don't need to bond with her, just get at least to her lock ||

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at least, afaik

open berry
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in my defense im bad at explaining things and have been putting off updating the long favours bc. words.

open tiger
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xD

open berry
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i just kinda look at em and my eyes glaze over immediately

solemn lagoon
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How do you tag for spoilers?can't remember

open berry
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on desktop you can highlight and a spoiler icon will pop up, alternatively you can use this: ||text here|| which will spoiler tag what you say. it will work for links and spoiler the thumbnail, or you can also post links as <link here> to post a link without any preview thumbnail

solemn lagoon
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|| like this? ||

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Ok got it thanks

open berry
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yup!

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it does the same thing as ||just doing this|| so its better to just learn how to do that lmao

solemn lagoon
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|| soo uh my Dusa questline might be bugged I've maxed her hearts but havent gotten the "bond forged" message ||

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I'm on mobile btw

open berry
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there's more dialogue after maxing hearts

brittle thorn
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Yo, quick question, does the check mark for the house contractor's work orders appear once you've done all the stuff? I'm pretty far in late game, did the missions, and have the ||themes ||but I don't have the check mark, despite having nothing else to buy. Anyone know if you get it once you buy everything?

open berry
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you might need to do some more runs

solemn lagoon
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I've done a couple and only get generic lines

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I've done at least 10 runs after maxing

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I should note || that on my save file which was from before 1.0 I hadn't finished the Dusa event to get her back from her losing her job I only finished that after 1.0 ||

open berry
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honestly hard for me to say without running through on a new file, since i finished bond forged prior to 1.0 thonk

atomic forge
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I cant unlock beowulf

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chaos wont talk to me bout it, even if I got the shield equipped

autumn void
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it can sometimes just take a few runs, even if you meet the conditions

solemn lagoon
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I cant unlock beowulf
@atomic forge it happenes sometimes it took me 5-6 meetings before I got it

autumn void
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this happened to me when i was trying to unlock beo as well

open tiger
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@atomic forge do you have the pre-req for it?

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|| 5 blood in the shield? ||

atomic forge
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@open tiger Yep

open tiger
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then if it's been more than a few runs, and you're not getting any important dialogue from Chaos, might want to f10

hollow quest
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||test||

oak furnace
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the only weapon that you need to equip for the 4th aspect unlock is fists

open berry
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i mean if you want to be technical about it, you don't need it equipped specifically for the waking phrase, but! having it equipped and having asterius comment on the fists themselves is required. same applies for shield and rail.

oak furnace
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I didn't have a shield or rail equipped and they commented on the key phrase

open berry
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you don't need it equipped specifically for the waking phrase

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you're still required to have them acknowledge the weapon beforehand. i think you might need to check with chaos with a couple shield aspects though

oak furnace
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hmm I see

compact rune
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do i have to fight theseus at max extreme measures for poseidon?

open tiger
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EM3

compact rune
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ok thanks

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this'll be a doozy

open berry
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its a fun fight :)

open tiger
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the important part is that Theseus has his fancy ride

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:3

compact rune
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alright

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ive only ever done EV1

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im excited :>

open tiger
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good luck!

split kelp
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EM2 is probably the most fun of the bunch. With EM3 Theseus funnily enough becomes a bit easier even, Asterius is a whole different story.

lilac ruin
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ok so ||i just gave ambrosia to charon, and he was the first. now, a little while later, I find that i can "borrow" 300 coins from him while in Asphodel.||
will the punishment i assume comes from this last past when I die? like hurting a relationship or something

gloomy frigate
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no relationship impact

lilac ruin
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cool, thanks

open tiger
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(also no relationship correlation)

lilac ruin
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||I JUST DID IT AND I AM FEELING FEAR||

open tiger
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hahahahaha

lilac ruin
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i like the theme that's playing rn tho

gloomy frigate
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it’s a very neat remix ya

thorn compass
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<text>

open tiger
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|| you trying to spoiler text ||, do this

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|| shows up like this ||

thorn compass
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ah, nah ik how to do that

open tiger
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aight ^.^

thorn compass
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nw

lilac ruin
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update: ||charon hits for big damage and i have no more death defiance||

hollow quest
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in the north west room where you ||view the picture|| you can give ||keys and darkness for rank|| whats that all about?

lilac ruin
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||i beat him but he burned all my death defiance and i now have 15 hp but i have a credit card or something||

open tiger
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ayyy nice

hollow quest
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i love me some ||charons big purple balls|| lol

jovial axle
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Ok so I’ve hit the lock on Sisyphus, just met him again, and he said nothing about ||his punishment ||, he just introduced Bouldy to Zag

gloomy frigate
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Yeah when I first fought him I lost all my DD in Tartarus, it took the bag forever to spawn and I was going to win gosh darn it, death defiance or no!

open tiger
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@jovial axle it might take a few runs

jovial axle
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What am I doing wrong?

open tiger
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you also need to || give Nyx a bunch of Nectar ||

jovial axle
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Oh, I’ve been doing that lol

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Lemme finish this room and I’ll check ||how much nectar specifically ||

open tiger
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|| she needs to be at her lock, at least ||

lilac ruin
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||this run feels kinda boned even though i've been able to last the next couple rooms without dying||

jovial axle
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||5 nectar||

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How close is that?

open tiger
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I think 1 more

jovial axle
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Neat

fossil bane
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How to trigger divided by death... the free patroclus and achilles one

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I already give them full nectar since run 25... now its run 120 but the quest never show up... is it a bug??

open tiger
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progress both of their relationships

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and || with Nyx ||

fossil bane
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I already full bond with everyone...

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Except for that two...

open tiger
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probably f10 that, and include your discord tag or email. Ask if one of the devs can check

compact rune
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holy crap EV Lernie

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was not expecting that

open tiger
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:D

compact rune
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hectic asf

open tiger
vast basin
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when you use ||full bar hades call and shout out "FATHER" and he's like what??? during his fight|| is so good

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also ||continuing to use bouldy and he's still incredulous each time||

compact rune
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HOLY CRAP IM SCARED OF ASTERIUS NOW

open tiger
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bwhahahahahahah

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:D

unreal marsh
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@vast basin I am always expecting some kind of ||Rock of Ages|| reference with that and it just won't happen sadly

lilac ruin
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so at first i thought my run was screwed ||because i lost all my death defiance to charon|| but i've come to discover that ||a twenty percent discount is kinda like really good and worth, if i play the fight a little smarter next time, if i can fight him again||

open tiger
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uh-huh :D

lilac ruin
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like my run has kind of recovered even though i had no DD left, but of course ||skelly's charm is very useful||
I hope i can clear the run since i have a streak of four right now, and that's my best so far

unreal marsh
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pray for Patroclus

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might he appear and pick you back up, today I was less than 50 hp left and that gave me the boost i needed

autumn dust
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well

vast basin
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think i saw a meme of that earlier today

lilac ruin
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Didn't get him sadly
I did get that athena boon that gives u one tho

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I'm in the temple of styx right now

unreal marsh
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good luck then and hope you got authorities to roll more Athenas to get the other one

atomic forge
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Whats the last memories

slim grotto
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Is this the right place to ask about where to unlock a certain aspect?

drifting citrus
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check pins, doublenova!

slim grotto
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ah I'll check it out

unreal marsh
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I guess I could ask too how do I get Hypnos to max hearts, it is driving me kind of crazy

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plain RNG with events?

vast basin
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yeah mine is still stuck on that but it seems to be rng yeah

drifting citrus
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hypnos' favor is just watching his events, yeah

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specifically his events about his job

atomic forge
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I am stuck finding the last souvenir

unreal marsh
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well still got to do like 40 something runs most likely to get that "level up all keepsakes" achievement.... so I will wait (why does it exist?!)

vast basin
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i feel fear for those skelly achievements

open tiger
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@atomic forge || keep playing, it's locked behind story ||

atomic forge
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I have escaped 1 time

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:c

unreal marsh
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@vast basin I haven't done 32, just 16, it is easier than it looks specially with the new ||EM4||

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and 32 doesn't have achievement so...

vast basin
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||em4|| wrecks me though

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alebit ive only done it once

unreal marsh
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I reaaaally lucked out with my build on my try yeah and still was almost done when it was over .-.

vast basin
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just gotta get good

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...or cheat

open tiger
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I mean, yeah that's an option. unless you mean god mode, which isn't cheating

vast basin
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fair

unreal marsh
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use a ranged weapon for your tries

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think my heart would leap out trying a melee one, even shield xD

heavy vigil
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when you use ||full bar hades call and shout out "FATHER" and he's like what??? during his fight|| is so good
@vast basin i noticed that lol

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I feel like im doing something wrong with not unlocking these 4th aspects

elfin parcel
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I finally have advanced the Achilles pat story a LITTLe Bit but when I ran through I didn’t. Get to see pat so what’s the point of playing the game tammyhands tammyhands tammyhands

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Let me reunite them dammit

open tiger
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patience residentzag

elfin parcel
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I don’t care about successful runs I just. Want. Story

open tiger
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also valid

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and I respect that

elfin parcel
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Does choosing GIVE UP from the menu kill you or reset the run

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Cos if not I might just start doing that

open tiger
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reset

elfin parcel
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Also I uh. Borrowed money from Charon. That was fun LOL

open tiger
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nice!

elfin parcel
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I died tho and then everyone made fun of me :(

unreal marsh
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I also died cause I was both laughing and had a Chaos slow boon

elfin parcel
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Do keys do anything in the later part of the game after you’ve unlocked all the mirror stuff

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Cos I’ve just been trading keys for nectar

open tiger
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Mm

elfin parcel
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To talk to as many ppl as possible

open tiger
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kinda

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it's aight to trade them though

elfin parcel
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I guess they’re not hard to get

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Since you can trade gems for them too

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I should sleep it’s almost 5am

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But I had to try to help my boy Achilles

unreal marsh
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if you want to know

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very very late ||they give you UI looks||

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and you are going to need like ||100 at least||

jovial axle
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Beat the game, then do a few runs

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Talk to ||Hades|| after every post-credits run

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Only took me 2 runs

open tiger
ornate siren
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tbh it's a really boring legendary sadly

open tiger
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true

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but it's fun with stygian soul

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3 recharging casts

ornate siren
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yeah defs

high nacelle
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I wonder how many casts do you need with stygian soul to cast non-stop.

ornate siren
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i run stygian as well, it's good, but when a chaos boon can just give you half the effect of your legendary its unfortunate

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it's around 6 iirc

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i've done it before

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4-6 somewhere in there

open tiger
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also faster recharge from Hermes

eternal breach
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Yesterday i got the legendary right after i spurned her.

regal schooner
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i got the ||credits ending|| when i had an INCREDIBLE dps build and honestly i was a little mad

eternal breach
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It was kinda funny.

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Artemis: youre lucky you arent here or i wouldve shot you myself.
Artemis: here's the legendary
Me: h?

regal schooner
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like what i ||don't get to fight dad??|| i actually THOUGHT about this one!!!

unreal marsh
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if I knew about that @regal schooner I would have gone for a ||32 heat|| and cheese it lol

eternal breach
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SAME

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When ||dad sighed and nothing was happening i thought my game glitched||

unreal marsh
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also was expecting something to happen ||on the credits|| like ||Demeter suddenly screaming pissed||

eternal breach
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SAME

regal schooner
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only ||4 heat|| on that one im not a leet gamer yet

eternal breach
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I have two skelly statues but i dont think im going further

regal schooner
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there's still the ||true epilogue|| to unlock i guess... already have 70 hours in this thing and it keeps going

ornate siren
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it was ||the last run of the night for me, so i'm super glad i got it right then||

unreal marsh
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same here, wonder when I will get it

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but as I have to get the damn keepsakes leveled, it can wait...

eternal breach
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Just have to level the last one

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I went nuts on leveling ||pom blossom|| because HOH thats strong

ornate siren
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I'm going nuts on levelling it because I've had everything else maxed for a while, and it just looks wrong to have something not maxed

eternal breach
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Thanks to it i had such a powerful coronacht special oriented build i managed to catch bountiful harvest early and then the keepsake just leveled my heroic boons

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And i just wrecked everything

delicate dew
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You know what peeves me
The empty slots in the keepsakes cabinet

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Its just teasing with dlc npcs (I know dlc isnt sg's thing but)

eternal breach
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Zag can't bear to look at it and fills it with rocks, pretty bugs and sticks he found and random garbage

unreal marsh
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for me it was a fist run... the game HATES giving me thirst on fists, so it felt like a slap on the face

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I am like lemme ||fist Hades back to Tartarus|| but the game won't let me

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I unlocked the 4th aspect and it is there sitting pretty like 10 runs after unlocking it

eternal breach
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Just say no to thirst

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If it thirsts its a thot

unreal marsh
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but that throne won't build itself!

eternal breach
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Pick a dif wep

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One run wont kill anyone stop thinking about darkness gemstone economy and go claw people in the face

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😔

unreal marsh
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I thought like that before too, and leveled rail's heat up to 19

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then the game was like "no more thirst for rail"

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and update hit and so much stuff to make

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well, until 18 it was, I had ONE run thirst for rail, that's why it is 19

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after all the runs I made since near release and post release xD

tepid arch
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hey, ive tried to get the final bosses 3rd phase on extreme measures 4 and every other boss seems to have it but not the last one, can anyone tell me why?

clear oracle
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You need to complete a decent amount of runs

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Then you can purchase EM4 from the contractor

tepid arch
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I have runs completed since bata

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beta

clear oracle
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How many did you do since 1.0?

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You need to see the true ending

tepid arch
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since 1.0? hm im like at 5 or 4 right now

dawn lily
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True ending is 10 runs

clear oracle
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You are half way there. Unfortunately beta runa don't count.

tepid arch
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wait wouldnt it be cooler if it was the final runs final 3rd phase boss?

dawn lily
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Well you need to talk to Persephone 10 times.

tepid arch
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or are u guys keeping it a secret ;)))

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also does anyone know what persephones theme is called

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I would like to cry to it

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or sleep

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any would do

dawn lily
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On the coast

tepid arch
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love u

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how much is em4 btw

unreal marsh
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how much?

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if you mean Heat wise, 4

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a plain ||EM4|| run will give you 10 Heat

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if you mean unlock cost, a really, really small amount of gemstones

solar blaze
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Buying it is 100 gems to if thats what you ment

forest iris
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it's such a good fight

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but it is a good deal harder

clear oracle
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It's 4 heat

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The highest single heat option I think

wintry goblet
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ok my experiment is sooo close to finish

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i finally am at the end with 32 heat

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now ending spoiler || lets hope the 10th ending really skips hades fight AND gives me the credit for finishing with 32 heat ||

unreal marsh
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if there's some ||Skelly special dialog please record|| cause I wonder if SG thought about that lol

wintry goblet
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|| am in credit right now. I did not got a win screen yet||

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|| pog discord mods are in the credits||

upbeat willow
ornate siren
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||I had the same reaction to seeing the discord mods in the credits, you are all awesome and amazing wolskLove ||

wintry goblet
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|| ohh persephone look fresh in that new outfit ||

compact rune
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WOO BEAT EV3 THESEUS

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uhh do i just get a poseidon boon?

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or will i have to do another run

wintry goblet
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IT WORKED || no spezial text from skelly XD BUT i unlocked all 3 statues SO IT WORKED HYPE ||

unreal marsh
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so it borked it?

wintry goblet
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borked?

unreal marsh
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the ||no special text|| bit

wintry goblet
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yep || no spezial text ||

unreal marsh
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guess I am doing that when I do Hell Mode then xD

compact rune
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hell mode is fun

wintry goblet
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but i think i could have done it normally XD

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had 2 dd and full hp left. not the best at the fight but it could have been possible

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well time to go back and do 2 heat runsXD

delicate dew
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Does the run show up in admin?

wintry goblet
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yes

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|| but you do not get the usual victory screen ||

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may eb a good thing toughXD

carmine kraken
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how to open secret stashes?

ornate siren
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hmm, ||being able to abuse the story event to skip hades could cause weird stuff for high heat||

cold radish
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hi guys i have unlocked final ending, have more than 3 aspects unlcoked but still have not unlcok guan yu

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may i ask what i am doing wrong?

open tiger
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you need 5

cold radish
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i need to unlock 5 aspects?

open tiger
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yup

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check the pins here

upbeat willow
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yes, read the pinned messages here ^_^

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they have the unlock conditions for the 4th aspects

drifting panther
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so I just got to the true ending, and I have to ask, is there a ||full-res version of the family painting from the ending available somewhere? I'd love to have that as a background||

cold radish
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i dont have the aspect of guan yu tho

open tiger
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yes

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you need to have at least 5 aspects to get that one

cold radish
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ah

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ok

wintry goblet
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@ornate siren || well you dont get the real win screen. so just add as requirement that you need to have a screenshot of the real winscreen to let the run count ||

ornate siren
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@wintry goblet ||ah, then it's all fine||

solar heron
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ahhhhhh thank god. finally got the ||epilogue||

terse jasper
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question. If I decline to take back the nectars from Dusa, does anything happen?

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like, does it change anything major if i decline or accept, or is it just "you get your nectars back"

open tiger
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|| nothing bad happens ||

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|| both options are completely valid ||

terse jasper
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alright then

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did I have to spoiler tag my question?

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I didn't think it was considered endgame stuff

upbeat willow
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nah you're fine

open tiger
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I tend to over-tag things as a courtesy

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so in general, if you tag as much as I do, you'll be good, but you don't need to because I tag things that aren't true spoilers so much as they're potential spoilers

nocturne vessel
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@heady horizon Hi, did you finally get the F.R. prophecy? I already have my relationships with them maxed out, so i don't know if there is a secret element on the list I'm lacking or something.

deft vale
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So, uhh, I either choose Megaera, Dusa or Thanatos, is it that simple?

rapid vault
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you can have all three

deft vale
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So I can choose to pursue relationship with both Meg and Dusa, for example? What if I choose to stay friends?

rapid vault
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you stay as friends

deft vale
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It feels like a love triangle rn, I guess I'll accept Meg for the time being and hope Dusa will join us, lol

eternal breach
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No consequences for choosing whoever or all or none

signal yarrow
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Who is ||Add'l||? I saw their voice in the credits. I've just finished ||extremer measures||.

upbeat willow
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addional

signal yarrow
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Who's that?

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Or does it stand for additional?

upbeat willow
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yeah, it's just short hand for additional, as in additional characters not explicitly listed

signal yarrow
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Ok, cool. I spent a good few minutes googling the name and wondering what greek legend it was from, and when they would show up.

eternal zinc
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gotta hand it to Nemati

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his voice acting rly makes me wanna slap theseus across the face

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surprised to find out he also voices my favorite god dio

split kelp
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Is the Well Stocked achievement bugged?

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Because I bought at least 12 items from the wells and didn't get it.

steep drift
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I don't think so: I got it just this last run

vague sparrow
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Does the || mirror in hades' bedroom do anything currently?||

eternal breach
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IM LAUGH ING G

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||"FATHER!!!"
"WHAT?!"||

fervent skiff
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@vague sparrow Not really

woven jewel
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anyone have requirements for epilogue, the pin just tells you to figure it out yourself

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im at max hearts with ||persophone and hades || and i suicided until i ran out of dialogue options for them

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also beat a run after, but havent done extreme measures 4

fossil bane
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Is there anyway to make patroclus more likely to spawn on elysium??

fervent skiff
#

@fossil bane Not really

fossil bane
#

feels like a bug... I managed to get all achievement except for the achilles and patroclus

#

they just don't want to be saved

fervent skiff
#

@woven jewel This is just my hunch but ||I think the requirements for epilogue is to also max the olympians bonds as well||

woven jewel
#

hmm

fervent skiff
#

I don't know the requirements myself, but its definitely not maxing ||Hades and Persephone|| since I got epilogue waaay before that

fossil bane
#

How to max euridyce heart??

#

Everytime I got to her room... he always with orpheus and I can't give her the last ambrosia

fervent skiff
#

That's just bad rng 😅

fossil bane
#

it's like 10th times already lol

#

stupid orpheus... just leave her alone man

fervent skiff
#

I'm going through something similar with ||Persephone|| she's almost never alone

fossil bane
#

Maybe I free them too fast

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should have hold them much longer

#

maybe thats why my last free mission never show up too

#

it's weird to comes this far only to be bugged out

fervent skiff
#

Its not bugged, since it's really rng

steep drift
#

It's definitely true that sometimes the "conversations queue" seems to get full up of stuff it wants to do [other than the thing you want]

jade slate
#

you ever look at the faces on hades room door and think to yourself

#

man these skulls look like that one wojak

eternal breach
#

Oh

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Oh dear

#

||i dont need help with the threesome scene anymore||

jade slate
#

poggers

eternal breach
#

||"Whew, well, that was... That was... ahem."
Same, Zag. ||

distant topaz
#

so for the hidden aspects it says in the pin

||- Stygius: Aspect of Arthur. Unlock the Aspect of Guan Yu, then invest at least 5 Titan Blood into any Blade aspects. Nyx should tell you more in a conversation soon after that.||

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so does this mean that ||if I already invested 5 titan blood before unlocking Guan Yu it doesnt count?||

tidal gyro
#

Do u have to have max Feather keepsake for Dusa room event?

#

I still haven't gotten the dusa room event even tho dusa no longer has exclamation mark everytime i return to house

eternal breach
#

You dont

tidal gyro
#

I've heard it needs to be when both dusa and than are present in the house, this true?

#

just worried cause she doesnt seem to have anymore unique dialogue as of now

tall ingot
#

so does this mean that ||if I already invested 5 titan blood before unlocking Guan Yu it doesnt count?||
@distant topaz ||if you invested them in Blade then it count.||

split kelp
#

Alrighty, one more achievement to go. That Well thingy worked out on the second try.

tidal gyro
#

Finally. got the dusa room event... took so long

bright epoch
#

When is Dusa's favour fulfilled? I have bought both of the House Repair Upgrades for the Lounge and a ton of other House Decor upgrades yet the prophecy remains unfulfilled 🤔 The Wiki says one needs to buy 12 upgrades including the House Repair ones 🤔

tidal gyro
#

@bright epoch as in to unlock giving her ambrosia or to establish bond (which i just literally did)

#

for ambrosia, iirc it needs to be specifically lounge upgrades

oak furnace
#

you need to go on a few runs even after you fulfil the requirements

#

it didn't trigger straight away for me, I had most of the lounge unlocked

bright epoch
#

it didn't trigger straight away for me, I had most of the lounge unlocked
@oak furnace Alright thanks!

wraith frost
#

LOL

#

so

#

i am facing the minotaur for the 500th time

#

and i'm ||asking him an autograph||

#

that's such a meme

drifting panther
#

holy moly

#

||extremer measures|| is something else

#

I was unprepared

bright epoch
#

Is it really full on RNG when it comes to the dialogue with certain gods that unlock the hidden aspects or is there a trigger apart from satisfying the obvious criteria? I've been waiting for Chaos' and Artemis' line to pop up forever...

tidal gyro
#

Have u done the spear first?

wraith frost
#

so i just bought a yarn of ariadne before the champion ifght

#

i got a nice easter egg

#

its funny

#

also TIL what the yarn of ariadne actually is

oak furnace
#

it's just RNG conversation if you have the conditions unlocked

tidal gyro
#

its the thing theseus used to guide him through daedalus' labyrinth to find Asterios iirc

wraith frost
#

yeah

#

he got mad im carrying it

#

lmao

slow notch
#

iirc yo have 3 different conversations for the yarn

regal schooner
#

sad that the bad call achievement doesn't unlock ||using hades' greater call against him...|| i did it three times in one battle

#

trial of the gods never lasts long enough for me to build up to greater call

#

also legit annoyed my ||two charon wins|| didn't complete the fated prophecy... i can't seem to beat him now

lunar kiln
#

it specifically states during a god trial but i know what u mean

coarse kestrel
#

soooo i just had the conversation to unlock the aspect of Coronacht:, i finish the run and go back to my weapons and zag says nothing....what now?

pale jolt
#

So, I'm a little behind in term of progress to a friend that started earlier, he has already unlocked ||the final aspects of almost each weapon|| and he told me that when ||persephone came back in the underworld|| he already had like 4 weapons unlocked, while I have none yet, why is this? ||Some of the npcs already talked about the weapons, but no unlocks||

balmy verge
#

There should be a pinned comment about this in this channel

#

But of you want it from me it's: ||Unlock 5 weapon aspect and then you will eventually get a phrase to unlock the spear hidden aspect. After that you have to invest at least 5 blood into a weapon you want to unlock the aspect of. And investing means leveling up a weapon, not unlocking an aspect.||

pale jolt
#

Oh you're right

balmy verge
quartz sage
#

broo i thought i won the game when the hades is down, but surprise phase 2 is just

#

;aerhgnbouenohgnbaejhngjeprjgjaerg

balmy verge
#

Yeah man

#

I was like "damn I got him first try" and then it's just like "please don't let him have a second phase. Oh dammit"

final temple
#

do i need to put a bunch of nectar into achil to unlock guan yu?

#

i've unlocked tons of aspects

balmy verge
#

Nope

#

It's rng dialogue

#

If you have other quests or story related dialogue with achilles it just makes it more unlikely

open berry
#

zagreus aspects don't count btw

idle lake
#

Is it explained in the story who actually Skelly is and who is his contractor?
No spoilers please

regal schooner
#

it is yes

idle lake
#

Do I need 32 heat for that?

regal schooner
#

no

idle lake
#

And I assume him being ||Schelemeus|| is a false lead

balmy verge
#

Who knows

#

Maybe rosie's answer is a false lead

idle lake
#

Mind games

regal schooner
#

i'm wily that way

balmy verge
#

That's skelly

idle lake
#

So rosie was Skelly all along?

balmy verge
#

Hey

#

No spoilers

regal schooner
#

💀

jovial axle
#

I’m stuck, I got the 4th sword aspect and I can’t get past boss 3

#

What boons should I be looking for?

low vapor
#

For sword 4, aphrodite on main is a good one

#

She has the highest damage bonus and sword 4 is all about high single hits on its main attack

jovial axle
#

Probably should pick up ||Demeter|| at some time so Theseus can’t use her

#

Wait Aphrodite has the best damage bonus?!

low vapor
#

Also if the slow move is a problem for you, you can try and stick to dash attacks

#

Yes she dies

#

Does

jovial axle
#

Lol I’d expect Ares or Poseidon to have that

low vapor
#

To make up for her less visible/weaker debuff

#

Ares gets doom which is flat damage

jovial axle
#

Would the ||Sigil of the Dead|| be good?

low vapor
#

Posiedon gets a lot of damage from wall slams

#

I forget what ||sigil of the dead|| does, if you're looking for a specific build for sword 4 ask in #h1-builds-and-combat

jovial axle
#

Oh

low vapor
#

Athena dash is generally very good from what I hear

frozen jolt
#

please spoiler tag ||new keepsakes||

balmy verge
#

Best dash

jovial axle
#

I’m just curious, Why are we spoiler tagging stuff in this channel?

#

I get why we do it in other channels, but why in this one?

balmy verge
#

In general

#

I assume so people that don't want to be spoiled don't get spoilef

#

Spoiled

final temple
#

what do i need to get blown kiss?

static adder
#

ok soo I got the ||credits finally. I will admit I got close to crying||

balmy verge
#

Yeah ending is qte

eternal zinc
#

i swear to hades if theseus calls me blagerd one more time

stiff lark
#

I can't give ambrosia to Than for some reason

#

Do I have to beat him a certain amount of times ?

#

I'm getting annoyed bruh lemme court Death

balmy verge
#

Sometimes he just doesn't wanna

#

He's edgy

stiff lark
#

ugh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jovial axle
#

YO ||ASTERIUS|| GAVE ME THE 4TH GAUNTLETS ON MY FIRST TIME MEETING HIM ||ALONE|| AFTER ||ACHILLES|| GAVE ME 4TH SPEAR

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I didn’t even know he was the guy that did that, I‘m actually trying to do a 4th sword run lol

jovial charm
#

ive unlocked everything except the 4th gaunts and ive met asterius maybe 10 times, and nothing

jovial axle
#

My only tip is don’t do runs where you are aiming for the gauntlets, try to aim for a different goal and enter the mini boss room when you find it

balmy verge
#

I'm still waiting for 4th sword

#

Damn you nyx

jovial axle
#

That way it’s not a big loss if Asterius doesn’t give them over

balmy verge
#

Have her chaos story line oiled up tho

jovial axle
#

I’m trying to get ||Sisyphus summon|| and Nyx gave me the sword instead lol

balmy verge
#

Well I'm trying to get both

jovial axle
#

After how stressful ||Guan Yu|| was I’m not really aiming for 4th aspects

#

I just accept them as they come

balmy verge
#

Also achilles and orpheus don't seem so keen on being reunited
Guess I'm gonna ice out my sword with those diamond then

#

It's the last I need

cold radish
#

can ask for the part on aspect of guanyu

#

where and when does achiles spawn?

jovial axle
#

Normal spot and idk how to trigger it

#

It was my first one however, so it might be necessary to unlock the others

#

I just need Nyx...

low vapor
#

the requirements are pinned

jovial axle
#

But the past 5 runs she’s been pre-occupied by something else

low vapor
#

spear 4th aspect being available for unlock is also a prerequisite for all the other aspects

jovial axle
#

So I can’t get ||Orpheus and Eurydice, Achilles and Patroclus, or Sisyphus||

balmy verge
#

Same

jovial axle
#

2 of those have been someone talking to her, 2 of them have been her being away from the house, and 1 was giving me the aspect of Arthur

balmy verge
#

Bad luck streaks

frozen jolt
#

spoilered just in case even though its pretty early game conversation but, were these options changed in 1.0? does anyone remember what they used to be? i only remember one of them used to be the song of achilles

grave shale
#

Is there any prereqs to unlocking Nyxs and Megara's hearts

#

I got Skully and Orpheus down

#

and I have an idea about what to do with Achilies

balmy verge
#

For megada you gotta beat the furies couple times I think

#

Nyx has to do with chaos

#

||You have to reunite them. I have both their relationships up to their locks, though I don't know if that's required. After a few lines of dialogue you have to pay darkness in the admin room to unlock a passageway so the can meet||

#

As far as I knoe

#

Know

open berry
oak furnace
#

is epilogue just ||Zeus and Hades shaking hands?||

balmy verge
#

Maybe

frozen jolt
#

:DDD thank you tatz

drifting citrus
#

tatz is homer

open berry
#

i cannot help my thirst for lore and needing to record it

wispy saffron
#

about one of the hidden keepsakes ||Jesus christ, i was watching admiralbahroo and I just saw what happens when you use Hades's call aganist him... LMAO||

oak furnace
#

yeah they have at least 2 voicelines for it ||Zagreus shouts "Dad!" and Hades shouts "Son!"||

wispy saffron
#

it's quite funny ngl

vague sparrow
#

i still need their keepsake

#

i also shouldn't have spoiled myself by reading that

#

it wasn't a big spoiler, as I figured the last keepsake would be || hades || after getting || persephone's ||

carmine kraken
#

why i cant unlock bow legendary aspect i did everything

edgy prism
#

I think it's mostly random, I got mine and only have one aspect maxed

oak furnace
#

it's just RNG if you already did everything

tranquil mango
#

wow EM4 is tight

#

Im thirstin for more fights like those

ionic sierra
#

How do you unlock EM4 ? I can see it in my pact of punishment but cant activate it at lvl 4

#

Do you need to beat heat 32 ?

pearl vessel
#

Check the work orders

#

There should be one that costs 100 gems that unlocks it

hallow pivot
#

does meg show up if you dont fight her?

#

im trying to trigger the dialogue about freeing sisyphus

#

talked to hades about it already

ionic sierra
#

@pearl vessel I dont have any work order for it

#

I only have the ones for the new menu themes

marsh prawn
#

@hallow pivot she doesn't show in the House until you fight her

hallow pivot
#

kk

drifting panther
#

aaaaaaaaa

#

so close to beating ||extremer measures||

#

got him down to 25% ||on the last phase||

#

I don't know if I can do this, what a rough fight

tepid arch
#

Try using stygian blade

#

best weapon imp

#

imo

heavy vigil
#

So curious, What does Hell mode actually do anyways?

oak furnace
#

I think it starts you at Heat 5

heavy vigil
#

ooooo

open tiger
#

There's a Hell Mode exclusive Pact option

molten badge
#

how do i get the epilogue? do i need to do anything special?

open tiger
#

Beat the final boss a lot

#

Keep progressing the story

molten badge
#

aight

open tiger
#

I've heard || 10 || times, but that has not been verified

molten badge
#

does extreme measures play into it at all?

open tiger
#

I doubt it

#

But maybe

#

Haven't gotten there yet

flat patio
#

it was 10 for the ending where you take the boat down

#

are you saying it's 10 more on top of that?

slim grotto
#

Has anyone had trouble getting final aspects for some? I've triggered dialogue so many times and I just can't seem to get the right one.

molten badge
#

wait what for me it was 5 to get the boat down

whole path
#

How do you get Cerberus bond? I give him all the pets lolol

open tiger
#

More pets

flat patio
#

for me, cerberus i had to pet many times then the achievement didn't proc until i left the room

#

and then the next time i saw him after a run i could embrosia him

tired pier
#

That sounds about right.

amber canyon
#

Is there more story after ||Persephone returns from Olympus||?

whole path
#

Must just be range

tired pier
#

I haven't gotten to the point ||where I can gift ambrosia to Persephone|| but other than that I don't think there is more story.

oak furnace
#

there's an ||epilogue|| which took MANY runs after that for me

amber canyon
#

||What Im referring to is after the epilogue||

tired pier
#

Yeah, I got that.

vast fog
#

OMG

#

THE LYRE JUST

#

PLAYED SOME LIKE

#

I dunno

oak furnace
#

oh, probably nothing, which is kinda dumb cause it's pretty anti-climatic after the ending

vast fog
#

a rock ormetal lick

#

that was dope!

tired pier
#

that means you're getting there

vast fog
#

was not expecting that

tired pier
#

just need to talk to Orpheus again after that

autumn void
#

epilogue spoilers: ||the pre-run shpiel from hades being the whole "where would you even go? what would you have me do? your place is here" and zag now just responds to the memory with "he's right" lmao||

#

got a big kick out of that

tired pier
#

Dang, that sounds amazing. I guess I have to keep playing until that triggers for me.

amber canyon
#

Yeah looks like thats it

#

It feels a bit anti-climatic, but then again thats probably because I played it from EA onwards

#

And as a result was able to reach the end much faster

tired pier
#

It felt similar for me. Luckily I still have a bunch of currency to earn and spend, and heat-conditions to clear.

atomic nebula
#

Just got the True Ending... oh my god

sand lion
#

Finally reached credits

#

Sheesh

atomic nebula
#

This game is SO good

#

I love it so so much SadCat

sand lion
#

That last redacted fight 👀

atomic nebula
#

WAIT SKELLY AND ZAGREUS HAVE THE SAME VA!?

#

W A T

tired pier
#

Who also wrote all the songs in the game. Yeah.

drifting citrus
#

and sings orpheus

wispy spoke
#

And Orpheus' singing? also darren korb

#

what a madman

tired pier
#

indeed.

drifting citrus
#

and i'm pretty sure he's the sound director too lol

atomic nebula
wispy spoke
#

I do want to hear a Skelly cover of good riddance

atomic nebula
#

What a talented little bean

#

I love his voice as Zagreus

#

Fits him perfectly

open tiger
tired pier
#

Probably not, yeah. ||It's phase 2 after all||

wispy spoke
#

really? is that only on ||heat|| or something?

tired pier
#

No, but they'll ||probably die before they reach phase 2. He doesn't spawn them in phase 1.||

calm lance
#

how to get fourth gloves?

tired pier
#

Check the pinned message.

open tiger
#

@calm lance check the pins

calm lance
#

can u rate it from 1-10

open tiger
wispy spoke
#

it's not Demeter but it's nice

open tiger
#

I prefer Talos over it, but you can do some really cool stuff

calm lance
#

i dont get the hype over the fourth shield

open tiger
#

it got indirectly nerfed

tired pier
#

Yeah, Talos is still my favourite also. But the 4th aspect is pretty cool.

calm lance
#

chaos shield is just too good

wispy spoke
#

I like demeter because big number go bonk, but 4th glove still feels too quirky and risk-reward

calm lance
#

or did it also get nerfed

wicked palm
#

4th fists aspect is great but you need to swap default keybinds of cast and special for it (every weapon really but this one in particular) to be good

#

I honestly don't get how that one got to 1.0, Q is awful for something you can spam and RMB is awful for something that has a relative cooldown

wispy spoke
#

I've only ever played with LMB Attack, RMB Special and side button Cast

#

just feels more natural

wicked palm
#

yeah it was bugging me for a very long time

wispy spoke
#

I mostly play mobas or similar games so it's probably just muscle memory for me though.

wicked palm
#

then I bit the bullet and it got better

#

but you still have to aim cast and I guess the logic here is "binds that aim go on mouse"

wispy spoke
#

I'm lefthanded so I got some weird binds in a lot of games

#

aiming can be rough so I tend to go for boons/skills that aim for me hah

#

I guess in a way gaming helps me become a bit more ambidextrous

open tiger
#

@faint jasper any companions in particular?

faint jasper
#

Skelly’s

#

I’ve given him enough nectar

open tiger
#

just keep talking to him--you'll need to complete a favor

#

he makes it super obvious

faint jasper
#

Oh what is that?

open tiger
#

|| killing him with the sword once it has enough blood in it ||

atomic forge
#

can someone help me? I have to reunite ||Orpheus and Euridice and Nyx told me that the sentence should be in the admin chamber but I can't find it?||

open tiger
#

@atomic forge do a run

faint jasper
#

Blood is hard to get

atomic forge
#

i did several

open tiger
#

you'll get more once you || beat the final boss ||

#

Hmm

faint jasper
#

Can you teach me how to get lots

#

Oh ok

open tiger
#

Zero, did Nyx || give you a specific location? ||

#

like, || a bunch of greek letters? ||

atomic forge
#

no, just told me to check in the ||Admin office||

open tiger
#

hmm

#

I think she needs to give you that specifically

#

lemme check something real quick

atomic forge
#

alright, i'll keep beating the game i guess

open tiger
#

if it goes much longer without any ❗ dialogue from Nyx, probably f10

vast basin
#

from what i remember it took a while ||for her to say where it was after saying it should be in the admin office||

flat patio
#

Is there any good way to get a fishing spot in chaos or is it totally up to chance

stiff creek
#

I love this game so much, but trying to trigger the epilogue has been so incredibly frustrating. I wish there were concrete requirements that we knew of. I'm 110 runs in and it's really bumming me out.

vast basin
#

i only got the ||epilogue|| yesterday and yeah it took a bit

open berry
#

make sure you've bonded with the olympians, they're the key to advancing

vast basin
#

honestly i worked on everyones hearts and getting at least all the olympic gods maxed that i coul-yeah

eternal breach
#

What unlocks Demeter?

open berry
#

post epilogue

eternal breach
#

Thats the one i dont have

stiff creek
#

I'm bonded with most of them up until the lock at the end. Can't figure out some like Zeus and Aphrodite

open berry
#

demeter isnt possible until post epilogue

eternal breach
#

Oh

vast basin
#

think the only one i didnt have maxed beside demeter was artemis at the time when it prompted

eternal breach
#

Might give hades a rest then for a bit

#

Cause i doubt im getting that anytime soon

#

I think now i only need a bond on Cerb and ||Perse|| and then I have everyone except Demeter

#

Just maxed ||Dad|| today

open berry
#

aphrodite you need to focus on the romanceable characters, zeus requires you basically hear a bunch of rumours about him from the other gods. iirc you can get these to pop up by having his boon first and the others will sometimes comment. theres some required demeter dialogue too but as long as you're talking to everyone it should come up

stiff creek
#

Appreciate the tips. I'll give these a shot

amber canyon
#

Epilogue has a few requirements

open berry
#

im trying to do hammer icons rn but after this run i'll get back to working on favour related things

amber canyon
#

One thing that can be a real roadblock

#

Is that you need two specific voicelines

#

That involve picking one god after another god

eternal breach
#

Oh no.

tired pier
#

Oh lol, I must have gotten those randomly. Because the epilogue really took me no time at all.

amber canyon
#

Well, it depends on whether you reroll a lot or not

#

If not

#

Youll probably get it sooner or later

tired pier
#

I rarely reroll, because the randomness makes me try out new and interesting things. Also I often cannot decide whether I want something or not.

eternal breach
#

Can i ask for the requirements or is that still under the rugs

#

Oh im a rerolling master gambler

#

Except the one time Chaos noticed I was rerolling scared me

tired pier
#

... now I want to start rerolling to get that voiceline

eternal breach
#

||Me: Ah i dont want any of those. rerolls
Chaos: ... This, then?
Me:
Me: mom come pick me up i'm scared||

wispy spoke
#

chaos might be my favorite character in the game

vast basin
#

chaos is so cool

wispy spoke
#

they're just freaky and weird enough while also having some real personality

eternal breach
#

Though my favourite was the coincidence of me rerolling a few times and ending up w the thing i was supposed to have from the start, and Chaos going ||Predictable.||

tired pier
#

"Among the infinite possibilities, let me present you only these three."

#

Such a good line.

eternal breach
#

I love them

#

They scare me in the good divine fear kinda way but i trust them

tepid arch
#

which is better

#

death defiance or stubborn defiance

#

they sound like the same effect

eternal breach
#

They arent

calm lance
#

ye but death is three times in the run

#

and stubborn is one per room

eternal breach
#

Stubborn is better if youre on a harder difficulty or just starting out

#

Otherwise, death defiance

#

Ofc personal preference is a thing

#

Also on the previous convo before i leave: i love how despite them being their own people w flaws and good bits and funny lines you can still tell that characters are gods

#

Like, Zeus? My weird uncle. Can he be terrifying? Yes.

wispy spoke
#

Death defiance also meshes really well with Athena so it's not that punishing to lose a life on the way to the top

#

wait Zeus is the weird uncle and not Poseidon?

eternal breach
#

Both are.

spare remnant
#

If I max out the relationship with Dusa, does it block any conversations with other characters?

eternal breach
#

Nope

#

Iiirc at least

#

@open berry might know this

#

(sorry for the ping!)

spare remnant
#

She has a little bow with hearts next to it and I was wondering if it meant I had to pick one person to couple with.

elder forum
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just a question on the patro achilles quest ||do i just keep doing runs til i can talk to nyx to get the contract?||

eternal breach
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@spare remnant you can romance all romanceable characters or choose some or turn them all down, theres no consequences.

spare remnant
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Cool cool cool

eternal breach
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:+1:

tired pier
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Depends on at which point of that questline you are at @elder forum. ||Did Achilles already ask you to try and get him to visit Patroclus?||

elder forum
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||i talked to him already and achilles asked me to get his contract||

unreal ivy
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||so uh.. pretty sure i just had sex with meg||

elder forum
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||just havent had a chance to talk to nyx yet shes always in another convo or something||

unreal ivy
elder forum
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yea id put that in spoiler tags

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||

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but yes

unreal ivy
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what

elder forum
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2 on each side

wispy spoke
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|| ||text|| ||

tired pier
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Yeah, with that and ||access to the administrative chamber|| you really just have to do enough runs to ||get Nyx to tell you where the contract is.||

unreal ivy
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o thanks

wispy spoke
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huh

elder forum
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kk thx flare

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figured just wasnt fully sure

steep drift
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So, after sorting out ||Orpheus and Eurydice's contract||, is it normal to not get ||Eurydice|| in Asphodel for the next 4 runs or so? I'd like to be able to unlock ||her relationship guage|| but I've not had a chance since...

elder forum
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its just rng

tired pier
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Yeah, you have to get lucky for him not to be there also.

steep drift
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I've not even had any of instances, let alone the one with ||both of them||.

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(I mean, I'm also grumpy that I've not seen ||Patroclus|| in that long in Elysium, either.

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)

elder forum
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yea just unlucky

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happens unfortunately :/

tired pier
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Oh, that is really unlucky.

elder forum
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yea i had patro and eurydice in my last run lul

steep drift
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Well, maybe they'll both happen together in my next run too 😄

amber canyon
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I totally forgot about the weird requirement for Poseidons heart unlock

tired pier
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Catch enough fishes, one has to be rare. I think that was it.

sand lion
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I had all three exclamation mark encounters in my last run

steep drift
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I am working on that too... what's the weird bit? ||It's just catch enough fish and catch one before you talk to him, yeah?||

sand lion
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Felt real good

amber canyon
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Nope

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Yeah what aoanla says

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The second part is the weird bit

steep drift
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Yeah, getting the timing on that ordering is wierd

tired pier
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Oh, I guess I got that then back when the first chamber was bugged to have a super high chance of fish spawn.

elder forum
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perfect catches are important 👍

steep drift
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Perfect catches are impossible [for me], apparently, so I'm glad they're not a requirement.

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(I can live without the Minor Prophecy)

amber canyon
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Yeah its just enough fish

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Their rarity isnt relevant I think

elder forum
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how do i unlock cerberus' gauge lol

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i hav no clue what he could need

steep drift
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Well, what does he like?

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(That's the non-spoilery answer)

elder forum
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||am i really supposed to just pet spam him lul||

tired pier
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Yes.

elder forum
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wow

steep drift
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Yup

tired pier
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And then do another run and talk to him.

elder forum
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i even got the achievement for petting him a bunch

steep drift
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You need say... twice as much as that

elder forum
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dang

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welp back to ||petting|| i guess

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i hope its not like the lyre where its like you hav to do it a bunch after each run lul

eternal breach
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Wait so

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Do i just

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Keep petting cerb a LOT A LOT

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Hes a good boi but m a an

heavy vigil
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Pet the damn doggo lol

steep drift
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It just happened naturally for me, given he gets 1 pet from me every run [and I didn't max him out with Nectar until after run 70...]

kindred slate
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are there any additional requirements for triggering the keyphrases on the final aspects? I've spent the required titan blood, done several runs now but nothing been said

quartz helm
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check the pinned messages in this channel

queen pecan
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question, in this channel i can talk about any spoilers? because i reached something that is near the end of the game, at least i think it's near the end of the game, and i want to know how much is further than that

steep drift
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I mean, you could always put it in spoiler tags if you're worried

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(If you've not done that before, it's a pair of | either side of your comment. So | | stuff | | but with the |'s directly adjacent.)

queen pecan
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|| let me try it first ||

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|| i just hit the credits and got Persephone back in Hades, aproximately how many succesfully runs until i hit the epilogue? in the pinned message says that they get them in twelve, they get them in just twelve because they is good, or that is the required runs needed? ||

open berry
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it comes down to more than a certain # of runs, its highly dependent on where you are in your relationship with the olympians. theres other requirements but thats the big main one

queen pecan
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|| okay, thanks for the information, i will go to do more runs tomorrow, i did almost all the ten runs in the weekend to hit credits ||

eternal breach
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||So so long i have olympians maxed, i should be fine?||

manic cave
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so i made it to the surface and died, is that the final boss or is there more beyond that?

marsh prawn
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you can do more runs to keep on uncovering plot

manic cave
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oh ok i was worried that was it, that was my 8th or 9th try

marsh prawn
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||there's more, only not in the Defeating Bigger Badder Guys sense||

steep drift
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Also, that's super impressive for your 8th go

marsh prawn
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and being your 8th or 9th try it's still worth playing for the myriad of things still left to discover

daring hound
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Hello and where may I find the quotes that Zag says to unlock each weapon's fourth aspect

steep drift
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and being your 8th or 9th try it's still worth playing for the myriad of things still left to discover
@marsh prawn yeah, there's a lot more to the story than just "the main run".

marsh prawn
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Hello and where may I find the quotes that Zag says to unlock each weapon's fourth aspect
@daring hound depends on the weapon

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each one has its own requisites

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but if i recall correctly every weapon needs you to unlock the guan yu lance aspect

night rapids
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Can you get a chaos fish in chamber 2?
I'm killing myself in the first room to see if it can spawn

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I had one spawn in chamber 4 one time, but when I gave up it didn't respawn

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I imagine the chance for one resets every time you enter?

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Or are there other rules about their spawn?

spare sundial
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Hello and where may I find the quotes that Zag says to unlock each weapon's fourth aspect
@daring hound check story and spoilers channel pinned messages

manic cave
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@steep drift thanks! but I I’m gonna partially blame it on rng, the build I had was pretty insane. I definitely plan to keep playing the game is just so satisfying

elder forum
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hm anyone know how to unlock hypnos' gauge

marsh prawn
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hm anyone know how to unlock hypnos' gauge
@elder forum ||gotta listen to convos between him and than and mediate on a little situation||

elder forum
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||dang i never see them talk||

marsh prawn
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after you give him all the nectar required it should happen naturally

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just gotta keep doing runs

elder forum
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kk thx

marsh prawn
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np

kindred slate
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@quartz helm The pins do not help in this regard.

quartz helm
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you just need to keep doing runs and wait for the dialogue from whatever person you need it from

gray jetty
low vapor
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oh god I don't wanna be whoever is in that cloud of pain

tired pier
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You can get both the festive fog duos at the same time? 😮 That's amazing!

gray jetty
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scintillating + ice wine = win

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AND I had Minotaur Rush + Charged Shot + Artemis attack boon, so when I nailed the power shot I was doing like 15k crits. I kinda felt bad for Hades, showing up with scint and ice wine and the best aegis combo. tch, tch.

open berry
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i love doubling up on ice win and scintillating feast if i go trippy shot

unique thicket
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whats the 9th miniboss in the prophecy list?

gray jetty
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dunno

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but whatever it is, ice wine will kill it

unique thicket
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I'm not having trouble killing it, im having trouble finding it.

delicate dew
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Whats the 8th and 10th one? I cant tell if thats Styx or elysium

unique thicket
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it should be styx

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8th and 10th are styx

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as soon as i get out of this run i can find what they are

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i thought it would have been tiny vermin but its not cause i fought that thing like 10 times already

amber canyon
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Uh

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What are the 3 Styx minibosses again

delicate dew
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Wels theres tiny vermin , elite green pot, purple snakestone, big gray rat

amber canyon
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Tiny Vermin, beeg rat and green pot

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Oh yeah and the snakestone

delicate dew
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Theres a satyr one too I think

unique thicket
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guess its beeg rat

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tiny vermin doesn't count as a miniboss for whatever reason

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prob cause it has an actual death animation

tired pier
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Yup, a big satyr also exists.

jade slate
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and like all satyrs he sucks

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a well timed deflect on big pot is really funny though

low vapor
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actually, satyrs blow. darts. at you, specifically

jade slate
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i have to say i probably dislike big stone the most

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especially without an armor killer

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wait this is story channel

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||does anyone know if hades says something if full call during trial||

unreal marsh
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I really thought they spitted at Zagreus, didn't know they were darts... xD

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@jade slate he does

jade slate
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whats he say

unreal marsh
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the exchange goes ||"Father!" - "what???"||

jade slate
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||i wanna know but i dont wanna touch that keepsake ever again||

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oh thats normal though

unreal marsh
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oh wait you mean Erebus?

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haven't tried

jade slate
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i meant during double boon trials

atomic forge
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|| I just got the dialog where hypnos gives Meg advice on 'not dying.' amazing!! ||

delicate dew
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oh hey thats neat ||Zagreus can become employee of the month now, Im assuming only after you become the official escaper||

atomic forge
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guys
[03:42]
what remains to unlock in the endgame
[03:43]
i need the infernal sword
[03:43]
how can i get it ?

quartz helm
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check the pins in this channel

hushed tiger
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the one thing that REALLY irks me is that unlocking weapons is a LOT about RNG.

low vapor
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currently doing runs to get gun 4, can agree

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I'm not sure I have the pre-requisite conversation with zeus, do I need to use zag exagryph to get it?

pearl vessel
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Weapon and aspect doesn't matter. Just getting the conversation does.

low vapor
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alright cool

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was wondering if that was why I didn't have it

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I've had a few runs featuring zeus now and I still don't have it

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I know have enough blood invested because I have eris 3 and zag 1

opaque narwhal
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Ahaha! ||I finally beat Extreme Measures IV!||

atomic forge
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Good freaking job, dawg!

tidal gyro
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For ||Cerberus|| favor, can you ||pet|| him all in one go or only across multiple runs

atomic forge
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Any configuration.

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All at once or one at a time, or five at a time.

jovial axle
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How far do I have to go to get Meg to show up?

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She’s the last component I need for ||Sisyphus’s summon||

strange salmon
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when you take a proper shower

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and dress properly

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gotta learn to charm the ladies my dude

slim grotto
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Hey does anyone know if you can use any fist aspect for unlocking final fist aspect?

jovial axle
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Lol but seriously though

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I really want this thing, so can someone help?

drifting citrus
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you don't need to wear fists to get 4th fists' waking phrase

jovial axle
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I killed a fury and died in the first room if Asphodel, and Meg wasn’t there and Zag didn’t comment on it

drifting citrus
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meg needs to be there to show up in the house

jovial axle
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I got the waking phrase while doing my first Arthur run

slim grotto
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I feel like my game is bugged for final fist aspect, it's never the right dialogue

jovial axle
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I’ve killed other furies and Meg was there though

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It’s luck

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||Asterius|| gave it to me at the earliest he possibly could, while I heard that others are still looking for it

slim grotto
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yeah I think I've attempted like close to 10 tires and still nothing

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crazy bad rng

jovial axle
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My tip, do a run that’s not focused on the fists

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That way it won’t be aggravating if you don’t get them and a surprise when you do

slim grotto
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yeah I was just force using them to ensure the dialogue, but apparently the wep doesnt matter?

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now I kinda got a little burnt out from them lol

jovial axle
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About Meg, I could have sworn that she appeared after a run where I killed Alecto

next gyro
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Hermes just asked me to defeat Charon twice in a row. Does this have to be in one run or can it be over a couple of runs as long as I don't lose to him?

jovial axle
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I think the second one

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I don’t think it’s possible to fight him twice in a single run

fluid citrus
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Has anyone else noticed that the audio for Orpheus when ||speaking with persephone|| is off?

heavy vigil
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Starting a new game has fixed a few of my issues

supple dagger
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Y'know... ||after doing the "quest" in which Zagreus gifts invitations to the Olympian gods through the boons,|| I kinda wish that was made more of a thing, since we only see the conversations/messaging to kinda go one-way rather than be like a mystical "phone call."

unreal marsh
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I can't believe I have gone through the ||epilogue|| achievement already and still blasted Hypnos won't unlock me to give him Ambrosia

jovial axle
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Will a Extreme Measures 1 run give me Meg at the house guaranteed?

surreal mango
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And true ending get! 😄

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I'm just sad I couldn't sick my Rail build on Hades. XD

supple dagger
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@jovial axle how do you mean "at the House"?

jovial axle
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I literally need to talk to her one single time to get the thing for ||Sisyphus||

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And she suddenly just refuses to show up

supple dagger
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I'd recommend just dying repeatedly until she finally shows up. Extreme Heat 1 will just make the first boss have support from the other sisters. It won't force Meg to be in the lounge.

jovial axle
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Drat

supple dagger
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yeah... I'm still hoping to get ||Persephone|| to unlock her final heart/s so I can cap her up and get her little badge in the keepsakes box.

shadow glacier
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Is it possible to miss post-clear story dialogue? I've been clearing pretty consistently since picking the game up again for 1.0, and Nyx and Hades sometimes talk about other topics (The Dusa subplot, comments on weapon aspects) instead of about ||Persephone||. I'm worried I might miss something.

jovial axle
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AAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHH

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I GET MEG AND IT’S NOT THE ||SISYPHUS|| THING

drifting citrus
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(play with em1 more)

peak coyote
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Do I need hearts with the Olympians in order to unlock ||the epilogue||?

jovial axle
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I got her to the locked heart and I think that takes preference unfortunately

lilac ruin
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does the ||bonus damage from than's trinket|| keep after you unequip it

drifting citrus
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nope, you have to have it on

lilac ruin
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darn, but okay

daring thorn
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Do you have to win a run with your newest 4th form weapon to get your next weapon to upgrade?

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No one will talk to me about my sword or shield

drifting citrus
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no, it's just rng

wicked palm
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it's RNG and you can unlock it while having another weapon equipped

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got 4th fists and 4th rail while not having them equipped

jovial axle
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I got gloves while in the middle of a 4th sword run

wicked palm
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^ what he said. don't listen to anyone who tells you otherwise

daring thorn
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Ok it's just I've talked to Chaos 4 times since preparing the shield

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Nyx is talking to everyone

wicked palm
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it's like... apparently rng because the weapon unlock conversation flags isn't something that takes priority over... god knows what

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but I talked to the correct god for rail repeatedly throughout my attempts to unlock 4th rail while having a rail equipped and there was nothing

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then he gives me the thing next run

daring thorn
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Ok

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My spear, rail, and bow were all first conversation after dumping 5 blood

jovial axle
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That’s the only prerequisite iirc

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Other than Guan Yu

daring thorn
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RNG giveth and taketh

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Someone probably

open berry
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some people do

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the wiki is run by the community, so if the community doesnt edit it, it doesnt get updated. but most people either dont know how to edit or find it intimidating

wicked palm
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I'm just being vague because I don't feel like tagging spoilers

daring thorn
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I wonder if they aren't talking because I may have lined up my wins too perfectly

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I got my first win with sword

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2nd with 4th spear

jovial axle
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I don’t want to edit because it posts you IP address IIRC

daring thorn
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And the last 11 runs straight so plot dialog

jovial axle
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...I hate Alecto and Tisiphone

daring thorn
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I like Al

burnt halo
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alecto's annoying because she's got a lot of invuln phases