#h1-story-discussion

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split kelp
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Punch or two in the face.

vocal matrix
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twin fist malphon jojo style.

shut shale
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is there something specific I need to do for sisyphus release to appear, or is it just a matter of waiting long enough to get all the conversations?

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I gave him all the nectar a while ago, but still don't see that thing

split kelp
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You need to trigger certain conversations with... Nyx, Megaera and maybe Hades I think.

shut shale
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I talk to everyone available every time

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is it because I have meg's own storyline happening and it takes precedence?

thorny surge
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maybe?

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have you nectar'd sisyphus?

shut shale
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I gave him all the nectar a while ago, but still don't see that thing

thorny surge
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shh i just woke up

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in this case yeah, it might be a case of some bits o dialogue taking preference

pine copper
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The June update announcement preview thingy, when put into Photoshop and tweaked using the Curves filter

vale dove
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My call is that you'll have to buy a new weapon aspect in the temple's shop for either diamonds or a lot of coins. Would seems fitting to me

thorny surge
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Please no lmao i’m short on diamonds

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Charon being related to it is a likely option since the last “flagship npc” of an update, Nyx, was the one that told us how to unlock Arthur

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I wonder how Charon’s going to work though

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“I see you through the eyes of HOAAAAAARGHH”

vale dove
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XD

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He might just give you a note

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and I have 16 diamonds, so that wouldn't be an issue to me, lol

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I also nearly never spend blood, for when the special aspects come. So I have 28 saved up, lol

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same for having 16 ambrosia

vapid parcel
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i saved up on diamonds bc i'm hoping we get to reuinite Achilles and Patroclus in this update

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it's pride month they gotta

thorny surge
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but what about charon romance

pine copper
cloud geode
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pls SG i need it for my soul
I mean even if it's going to happen in another update it's ok but cmon IT'S JUNE I KNOW YOU DIDN'T DO IT ON PURPOSE BUT THAT'S THE THING! IT'S A SIGN!!

vapid parcel
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sgg please 😭

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give bois

cloud geode
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He's literally our golden boi

vapid parcel
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that edit looks sick man!

vale dove
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I now also want Achilles and Patroclus to reunite this update :c

pine copper
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thanks haha. This feels like FNAF all over again xD. I love it so much

vapid parcel
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I now also want Achilles and Patroclus to reunite this update :c
we're amassing an army uwu

pine copper
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yes please! They're so sad apart!

cloud geode
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does that mean dionysus is the man behind the slaughter

pine copper
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From my playthroughs, my theories so far have been:

  1. I wonder if Skelly is Zagreus's grandfather - the mortal that Demeter was with, giving life to Persephone/ Kore
  2. You know how the normal encounters prepare you for boss mechanics, and boss mechanics prepare you for the Hades fight? I wonder if the mechanics of the double boon encounters (god vs god) prepare us for something like: we get to the surface and upon finding out that going to Olympus wasn't Zagreus's actual goal, we'll be forced to either survive god attacks, or fight enemies blessed by the gods as revenge?
vale dove
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Don't you mean the Hades fight?

pine copper
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ah yes, sorry xD

vale dove
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lol

pine copper
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there, fixed

vale dove
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And I'd love to spar againtst the gods at least

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Or something like the pasts in gungeon but for Hades, where maybe if you have a gods keepsake when you beat Hades you get a special event, like a fight or a small mission, although I can see that being too much work

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But a girl can dream

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I just want to hunt with artemis

pine copper
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Well, the fact does stand that Hades has a relationship meter which is locked off until a future update. That's why I wonder if it improves because of something like, fighting the other gods later on

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Since I would imagine him approving

vale dove
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maybe

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Maybe after 1.0 Olympus will be an area where you can walk around in and talk to the gods, just like the house of Hades and filling up the relationships with Hades makes it so the portal in that paperwork room can go to olympus

thorny surge
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I think it’ll be mostly about easing off the tensions or at least burying the axe when it comes to zag

vale dove
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And if something like that happens I hope you test boons there

vapid parcel
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would be really cool but i doubt it?

pine copper
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I'm very curious if the game, level-wise is about 80% of it's full length right now, or something dreamy like 50% or less. As in, the amount of zones and length of the full experience

vapid parcel
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i mean zag's goal isn't going to olympus anyway, so that might actually be counterproductive given that they'd want to keep you

hushed dome
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zag will prob meet persephone soon enough maybe in the next update

pine copper
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i mean zag's goal isn't going to olympus anyway, so that might actually be counterproductive given that they'd want to keep you
@vapid parcel There is a piece of dialogue where concerns are raised on how will the Olympians react when learning of your true motivations

vale dove
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Wasn't it said that the ending won't come until 1.0?

vapid parcel
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yeah i know, which is why i doubt he'd go there yk

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but yeah i think the ending is not gonna be in any 0. version

foggy cobalt
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....What if Hades isn't actually the last boss, and there's gonna be like, you have to fight the Olympians once they cotton on that you're not there for them?

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With the possible exception of Artemis.

vapid parcel
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i don't think he's the final boss either, but idk if you'd have to fight the olympians

vale dove
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If the olympians were all mad at you they could kick your crap in

vapid parcel
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i think that'd be weird, given that you'd still need their boons

vale dove
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You also have their boons whilst you're fighting the heroes

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And they directly help the heroes too

vapid parcel
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well but they need to give the boons to you, why would they do it when they learn you don't want to visit them yk

vale dove
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Just like you still have the boons of the gods you don't choose in the trials of the gods

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I suppose yeah

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Maybe they're forgiving

vapid parcel
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i mean depends on how supergiant does it, but it feels unlikely

vale dove
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Maybe if you lose they're like "maybe you'll learn your lesson next time" and if you win you're like "I'm sorry for this but I wanted to see my mom" and the olympians will accept you since you're their family and will help you but now for other reasons

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It might be weird, but there are ways to make it work

vapid parcel
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yeah there are, and your idea is in character enough tbh

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i just feel like that's not exactly where it's going, yk?

foggy cobalt
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Yeah.

vale dove
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It's fun to speculate either way

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I can also imagine other things

vapid parcel
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that's true xD

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there's so many possibilties

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like battling through the eternal cold or w/e

vale dove
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Maybe you have to fight through hordes of other things on your way to find your mom in the overworld

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yeah

vapid parcel
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y'all

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do you think we'll get a new friend to visit

vale dove
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(I call her mom because I can't be bothered trying to remember how to type the name)

vapid parcel
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persephone

vale dove
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her

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What if you escape and get close to persephone and in one last attempt to keep you from finding her, Hades sends Cerberus after you and this time specifically to attack you

vapid parcel
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no

vale dove
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I HIGHLY doubt it, but it's techniclly possible

trail garden
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boss fight with ceberus

fervent skiff
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Nu

vale dove
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And it would be the hardest fight purely because you wouldn't want to hurt Cerberus

trail garden
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but ceberus loves him so much

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😦

fervent skiff
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I wont be able to hurt him

vapid parcel
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they wouldn't, he's our good boy!!

fervent skiff
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He is the goodest boi of them all

vale dove
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That's why it would be an impossible boss fight

trail garden
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Idk, ceberus is a good boy but hes hades's boy

fervent skiff
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He is OUR boy

trail garden
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Reslly

vale dove
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Final boss is Dusa's body, lol

trail garden
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lol

fervent skiff
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LOL

vapid parcel
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asdfgh simpire

fervent skiff
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That'd be hilarious

trail garden
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Olympians have incest and murder but I cant sat curses:

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Nice

fervent skiff
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XD

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Its for the younger audience

vale dove
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I already self-censor myself with stuff like poopy or flip

fervent skiff
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And shiz

vale dove
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Even in direct speach

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speech*

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But just imagine, you arrive at Percephone's house and guarding the door is just a MEGA buff headless body and you find out it's the body of Dusa

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Like the buff natsuke meme, but Dusa's body

fervent skiff
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Buffusa

cloud geode
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We love buff women

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ehy uuh the fanworks channel exists 👀 people do something about it

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or @spiral pond, it's your time to shine

pine copper
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ehy uuh the fanworks channel exists 👀 people do something about it
@cloud geode Do what exactly? ;3

vale dove
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If someone makes it, please ping me, I'd love to see my brains thought realized in art

cloud geode
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why can we humans draw if we can't draw buff dusa at some point

pine copper
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No idea

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But it does make me wanna do sketch requests for Hades, for the fun of it. Not today though

cloud geode
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something like this happened and untitled goosa game was born

trail garden
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Do you ever get to give the orange stuff to dusa

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and get a cool turn to stone item or something

vale dove
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I want to make more drawings for Hades as well, but my drawings suck and I'm really selfconcious

pine copper
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Ambrosia? Yeah. You can max her relationship out

cloud geode
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If you give her ambrosia after doing her a favor you get her companion that petrifies enemies

pine copper
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I want to make more drawings for Hades as well, but my drawings suck and I'm really selfconcious
@vale dove I don't have advice against being self conscious other than: people don't tend to judge skill level, they're just happy and excited to see ideas in picture form. The artist is their own worst hater

vale dove
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I have posted some of my drawings on the server before

thorny surge
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you do indeed get to give her the orange stuff

vale dove
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But I'm too nervous

pine copper
thorny surge
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give it all to her she deserves it

vale dove
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now*

spiral pond
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@cloud geode on it

cloud geode
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people in this fandom are pretty thirsty for art anyway, everything here is very welcome
we need content hhh

spiral pond
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cursed content included

thorny surge
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yes

cloud geode
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oh boy here it comes

vale dove
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I can try to make another drawing, I just don't know of who

trail garden
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Im just hoping for workshop customization in the far future

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or atleast in game customization for character looks unless I havent found a wardrobe or something

pine copper
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I can try to make another drawing, I just don't know of who
@vale dove do the new Charon art 😉

vale dove
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I can

thorny surge
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nah, that's sadly not coming due to how zagreus' sprite works

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it's a frame by frame sprite kind of deal instead of 3d proper

open tiger
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Wait really?!

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That's incredible

vale dove
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The amount of detail in the new Charon art just spooks me to draw

trail garden
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how could you-

thorny surge
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so any graphical changes would also require editing every single frame in every aspect etc etc

open tiger
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A lot of sprites 0.o

thorny surge
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there's a steam post about it pinned somewhere

trail garden
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you couldnt tell it wasnt a sprite?, anyways, I was just gonna say if see things like darkest dungeon; theres people who will do it

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but thats why i also added in in game customization

pine copper
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Personally I don't want customization because I like that the character retains the power over his own looks like that, in this case. Just because there's so much story and symbolism to it all. I'm very happy to continue getting more decorative items though ^.^

vale dove
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I just want to play as Hermes tbh, lol

pine copper
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xD. Just zoom!

open tiger
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Get all the Hermes boons at once

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All Epic

vale dove
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Or a skin with just the clothes of red shade, lol

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I know there won't be skins, but it's funny to think about

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Red shade is one of the characters that I have drawn

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I drew 2 of her even

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them*

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Don't know their gender

trail garden
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wheres cupid at tho

open tiger
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Eros?

trail garden
thorny surge
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cupid is zagreus using coronacht with an aphrodite attack boon

trail garden
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I want some Loki boons

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/s

thorny surge
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turns out the heart seeker epithet worked in more ways than one

pine copper
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I want some Loki boons
@trail garden Wrong pantheon ;P

clear oracle
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Same pantheon if God of War

bleak osprey
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this is hades though ;P

open tiger
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Wait, it is?!?! Shades!

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:3

trail garden
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I was just messing of course

fervent skiff
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They could add a norse aspect

trail garden
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Other mythologies could be DLC

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Their own story quest

fervent skiff
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There are other mythologies

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Well kinda

trail garden
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?

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What you mean aside from oly and Norse?

fervent skiff
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When you unlock weapon aspects, one of them is from another mythology/region

trail garden
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Fight Jesus

thorny surge
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we'd also have to see if other myths in the hades universe were a case of syncretism or if there are other sorts of gods out there

open tiger
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2 of them, actually

fervent skiff
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Only 2 are in the game right now

open tiger
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Both are from another, Volty

trail garden
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Who? I’m fine with being spoiled on what gods are in the game

thorny surge
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much like the two already mentioned fourth aspects are future shapes the very much greek mythos infernal arms will take outside greek history

fervent skiff
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Nah I meant out of four aspects one is outside greek

open tiger
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Ahh, yeah

clear oracle
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Y'all talk about gods and forgot about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ St. Patty

trail garden
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St nicholaos

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I wanna kill Santa

clear oracle
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No no

open tiger
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Excuse me, I represent our Lord Lucifer

clear oracle
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St. Patroclus

trail garden
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And be the son of Krasnoyarsk

fervent skiff
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Santa aspect

trail garden
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Krampus

fervent skiff
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That would be amazing

trail garden
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Christmas dlc

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You’re welcome

clear oracle
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Not sure if SGG will do DLC

fervent skiff
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They don't

trail garden
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Why not?

fervent skiff
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just soundtrack packs

clear oracle
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They usually don't with all their games so far

trail garden
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Sad

fervent skiff
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Which I gladly purchase

open tiger
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Not really?

trail garden
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Hades definitely makes sense for a dlc

open tiger
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It means that everything they want to put in the game, they put in for no extra charge

trail garden
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But it is what it is

fervent skiff
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it ees what it ees

clear oracle
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Yeah I wish for more contents too

open tiger
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DLC is extra money, sometimes it fairly priced, but that's all it is

clear oracle
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We will see

spiral pond
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I want rail of jesus

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aspect of jesus for rail thx

clear oracle
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We don't even have 1.0 yet lol

fervent skiff
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Lol ikr

open tiger
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Bible 2, Jesus has a gun

clear oracle
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You should Holy Water

fervent skiff
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Its still early access

clear oracle
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And constantly chant Be Gone Thot

trail garden
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I’m still a kid does that mean I can’t think of when I’m 60

spiral pond
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it shoots roman's salty tears of them crying because he isnt dead

thorny surge
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aspect of MURICA

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every time you use the special the world's freedom increases by 10%

open tiger
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Don't you mean decreases?

fervent skiff
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Oof

clear oracle
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🇺🇸 dusa

trail garden
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This is America

spiral pond
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no this is patrick

hollow mortar
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Insert Skelly spoilers here

clear oracle
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@finite matrix for Dusa you need to buy a certain amount of Lounge furniture with gems. Then you can gift her Ambrosia and get Fidi.

finite matrix
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||Please no stop||

hollow mortar
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And Dusa tooo

finite matrix
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That makes an unusual amount of sense

clear oracle
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Yeah help the maid out by buying furniture

finite matrix
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Never bothered to buy any decoration

clear oracle
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:D

finite matrix
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Thanks

clear oracle
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Yeah you only need the lounge though

finite matrix
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The wiki tells me I need to kill Skelly using lv5 zagreus aspect blade so I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon

clear oracle
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Lol yeah I hate that quest

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Though I find Meg and Sisyphus to be one of the easier to use ones.

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But gl anyhow :D

finite matrix
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Thank you 😄

thorny surge
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it's just 5 titan bloods, you'll eventually get there with prophecies

finite matrix
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I have 1 titan blood bro

thorny surge
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trust me
it sounds a lot harder than it actually is

clear oracle
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Imagine upgrading Zag Sword

finite matrix
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I haven't beaten Hades even after 40 runs I'm gonna kms

clear oracle
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Lul

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Lol don't

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We love you

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Even if Hades doesn't

thorny surge
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you'll just go back to the house if you do that
there is no escape

finite matrix
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I got painfully close a few times

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Mostly with the Rail

clear oracle
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You will get there

finite matrix
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But then he one shots me with his dumbass spin

clear oracle
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For sure

thorny surge
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it's alright
perseverance and keeping an eye on his patterns get the job done

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yeah, you'll eventually beat him

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it took me way more tries than that to beat him but once i did my win ratio dramatically spiked up

finite matrix
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How many runs did it take for you guys

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I don't even know what weapon to use

thorny surge
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hades is about figuring when he's gonna do what

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and how to avoid it

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once you learn to recognize his moves you're gucci with him

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also that depends

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weapons are a very personal thing and each one adapts to a person's playstyle more or less

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so i suggest screwing around with weapons to see which one you feel the most comfortable with

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messing around with boons also helps

finite matrix
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I lost a sea storm + exclusive access + scintillating feast run with poseidon's special residentzag

thorny surge
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oof

finite matrix
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Rail with the hammer upgrade that makes your special a nuke or something

clear oracle
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Exclusive Access is... subpar imo

finite matrix
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Was dealing like 600 dmg

thorny surge
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yeah but scintillating feast though

finite matrix
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Pretty sure I might've also had Artemis + Zeus one

thorny surge
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lightning rod is
not that good imo

finite matrix
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That made the cast still do dmg even after it ran out

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Sure but y'know it worked

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It's pretty good with the shield since I can just block and let the enemies kill themselves

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Exclusive Access made me get Second Wave once so I like it

clear oracle
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Well one day those close runs will be close enough

hollow mortar
finite matrix
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Sorry boss

clear oracle
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I'm going

frank venture
finite matrix
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Oof nice

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Wish I could understand what boons you used and what weps

thorny surge
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Oh damn

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Gratz

finite matrix
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My mans had 3 legendaries residentzag

thorny surge
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One of em os Guan Yu so it doesn’t count

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Two leggies though

finite matrix
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Has anyone memorized the boons' image and could tell me what were the strongest ones

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What's Guan Yu tho

thorny surge
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Aspect of Guan Yu

cerulean hamlet
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it's a spear aspect

thorny surge
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Spear’s fourth aspect

finite matrix
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Oh more stuff I don't have access to and end up unintentionally spoiling myself nice

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rip

cerulean hamlet
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the spoiler channel lives up to its name

thorny surge
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The leggies they have on is Dionysus’ (something about hangover and party clouds) and Athena’s (1hit invincibility every few secs)

cerulean hamlet
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blackout

thorny surge
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That

finite matrix
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Ya it seems to be a Dio + Ath build might try it out

cerulean hamlet
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and divine protection

finite matrix
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With Artemis attack?

thorny surge
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What did blackout do again? I remember it involved both of dionysus’ gimmicks but not the exact effects

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Artemis attack is deceptively good

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Flat % increase to damage plus chance to crit

finite matrix
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I just don't like the spear

thorny surge
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Combo’d with Guan Yu’s native high dps it can give you beefy numbers if you know what you’re doing

finite matrix
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at all

thorny surge
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Also did you know an aspects’ rarity goes up as it levels up?

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lvl 1 aspect is common, level 2 uncommon and so forth

frank venture
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Athena's boon against traps really helped as I choose 400% dmg traps for pact

thorny surge
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That’s why maxed up guan yu is “legendary”

frank venture
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"only" -50% to max healt and health incrising rewards x)

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life steal too stronk

cerulean hamlet
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honestly, i think there's nothing super crazy about your boon combinations

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so getting no damage is probably more impressive, you should be proud of your achievement

frank venture
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i focused on deflection with dodge and speed mostly

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after call +60% to dodge combined

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and oh, I love getting additional dashes, really helps me against the dreaded spin attack

finite matrix
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Additional dashes are the best anything in this game

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I just gotta git gud I guess

frank venture
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go with sword, get lifesteal from dedalus > gg

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'twas my first win

finite matrix
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My next run is gonna have to be fists since they're the ones with the Darkness buff

thorny surge
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game doesn’t have a time limit so you can at least take your time to git the gud without any worries

finite matrix
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It's still sad to go 40 runs without beating hades

thorny surge
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A lot of us went more than that so don’t worry

finite matrix
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Is there an effective darkness farm?

thorny surge
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You’ll probably beat him several times in a row like it’s none of your business when everything clicks though

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@finite matrix crying in a corner

finite matrix
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Very

cerulean hamlet
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pick a weapon with darkness buff, grab darkness buff from chaos, grab every infernal trove with darkness

frank venture
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kill dem bosses again with same weapon

finite matrix
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Door rewards should scale tbh

frank venture
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biggest gains i guess

cerulean hamlet
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if bosses have been beaten then they drop loads too

frank venture
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and with +20% its even better

cerulean hamlet
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the most efficient farm is probably playing on a heat where you've already beaten the final boss and getting all those darkness buffs

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and beating the boss

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also grab oceans bounty or whatever from poseidon early game

finite matrix
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Really need to do a few farming runs with Poseidon's boon that increases rewards

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Yeah that boon

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Overleveling bois

frank venture
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goddamn gemstones, never enough

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pillars for 1600? goddamn

split kelp
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They are totally worth it though, they look so dope.

frank venture
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I just love Hades' quips for contracts ❤️

split kelp
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In particular for the rugs.

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Daddy-o just hates rugs.

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Well, he mostly hates everything apparently.

finite matrix
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Immediately buys the rugs

frank venture
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rugs you say, I just have few to buy

thorny surge
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I just bought the royal tombs
Kinda disrespectful to the kings in question but damn do they look good

frank venture
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omg heroic artemis cast, is it worth to replace poseidon, hmmm

finite matrix
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I prefer Poseidon's AoE but that's just me

frank venture
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same, took 3% crit

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talos aspect on fists and poseidon boons are fun

finite matrix
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Never tried talos fists, it's gonna be my next run

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Tell me if you win

trail garden
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got my first weapon upgrade, thank god weapons can change look; gotta love versatile style

thorny surge
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Not just looks, each Aspect plays differently

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some being a minor change, some others actively changing the gameplay style and some others changing the gameplay style so it’s almost unplayable

trail garden
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Yeah, I know

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I was just saying what i said

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is the magnetic pull good?

finite matrix
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Apparently very much so

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Haven't tried it yet though

trail garden
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I'd expect it to be though I'd also expect it kind of useless on bosses

finite matrix
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Yeah I have no idea how to boss using fists

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Any experienced players here to tell us?

trail garden
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I wouldnt expect you to be able to magnetically pull the boss like youd want to

finite matrix
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Still, at least you'll be able to mob better and take less dmg that way

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It helps a lot given that fists has small range

frank venture
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wtf i cant quit to menu in styx?

open tiger
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Talos is good, the pull has pretty long range. Doesn't pull bosses

finite matrix
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How do you boss effectively with fists though

cerulean hamlet
#

@frank venture you probably just performed an action/bought a boon

open tiger
#

Lots of careful timing, Ayer

frank venture
#

got boon, tried to quit but only give was availble

cerulean hamlet
#

if you go into a tunnel or into the next room, you should be able to quit before taking any damage

frank venture
#

so i gave sack to cerberus

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and still only give up

open tiger
#

Or facetank Hades with 3 DDs

trail garden
#

I mean Ive bossed with the fists, its not that hard if your shift can reflect etc

frank venture
#

i only wanted to change language to eng to show off mah build of fists sigh

cerulean hamlet
#

anytime you perform an action that pulls the rng lever, you'll have to move into the next section to get quit option

finite matrix
#

Oh please do I'm very interested

frank venture
#

(wasnt any impressive x))

open tiger
#

What do you have bound to shift, Pineapple?

finite matrix
#

I have no clue how to build fists except for like, Zeus attack

trail garden
#

shift

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wait

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space

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wait

#

yeah space?

open tiger
#

What ability?

trail garden
#

its default

finite matrix
#

Dash is space by default

open tiger
#

Space, so dash

#

Okay

finite matrix
#

Using a PS4 controller feels so much better imo

trail garden
#

dash, shift, same thing

#

no?

open tiger
#

No

trail garden
#

or is there a shift

open tiger
#

Shift is another key

finite matrix
#

Oh I thought you meant the shift key

frank venture
#

it felt unnatural to me so i switched cast with special

open tiger
#

I have Cast bound to shift, and special to right click

#

Works much better for me

trail garden
#

😐

finite matrix
#

Nice

#

I just use a controller, def recommend it

atomic forge
#

I had Cast on Shift for a long time and eventually migrated it to M3.

trail garden
#

but then you cant go left and use as the same time

atomic forge
#

Controller works for some people, KBM works better for others.

trail garden
#

or atleast itd be harder

open tiger
#

I've been meaning to try controller, I have my switch pro

frank venture
#

Controller works for some people, KBM works better for others.
@atomic forge Amen

open tiger
#

Wdym, pineapple?

finite matrix
#

I'm more of a console gamer since my laptop kinda sucks, so it works well for me

#

Action/Rpg games, including rogue-lite, always felt better for me when using the controller

trail garden
#

nvm, I just dont use my pinky on shift

#

its very unnatural for me

open tiger
#

Ah, yeah, that's what I do

trail garden
#

I also type with three fingers for both hands but get 109wpm

finite matrix
#

Why tho

trail garden
#

because the regular way doesnt feel natural

#

Ive tried

#

theres no getting used to it for me

finite matrix
#

Using pinky for shift key is so effective but whatever floats your boat

thorny surge
#

how do you fight bosses with fists?
you hit them real hard

#

and repeatedly

#

until they die

trail garden
#

its not like I dont want to

#

Itll just get me killed when I try to use it

frank venture
#

barely made out of elisium with all lives but somehow managed

thorny surge
#

in all seriousness mix a lot of dashing with fists if you're using them

#

attack boons are mandatory

frank venture
#

i tried to be smart and welp, run is over, but basically i went with posiedon cast and special, athena attack, additional dashes, hangover dash, dodge, dedal upgrades for lifesteal with special and attack ending with dash attack so i can attack nonstop and deflect that way

trail garden
#

poseidon cast

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thats where it went wrong

#

thats where everything went wrong

open tiger
#

No??

thorny surge
#

posi cast is great though

trail garden
#

you do you

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but as far from what I see, its far from the best one

#

I was just joking ofc

vocal matrix
#

posi cast is ok

#

Ares cast is dumb.

foggy cobalt
#

It's not bad, but yeah, it pales in comparison to a lot of others unless Hunting Blades are go.

amber vessel
#

honestly

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poseidon cast with poseidon legendary was the funnies thing i've seen in a while on styx

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throw all casts and see enemies pinballing around the place until they die

trail garden
#

hm true

amber vessel
#

btw

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demeter + poseidon duo cast is a wincon in itself

foggy cobalt
#

I can imagine their yells of confusion and/or pain.

trail garden
#

boom

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I sucessfully jinxed myself as plan

#

second run after purposely saying id never meet her and boom I got her

#

time for acorn

#

what I cant give her abrosia?

#

do I gotta run in a second time

#

dang it

clear oracle
#

You can give her Ambrosia

#

But not the second time you see her

#

In fact not for a while

trail garden
#

it didnt let me give it to her

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and I wanted to give it to her so damn badly

clear oracle
#

Getting to know someone doesn't mean showering them with gifts.

supple dagger
#

Throwing this out here even though it's early to know and say: if Hades did get Steam cards, who or what would be them?

Zagreus would be an obvious one.

open berry
#

please give me an ares one so I can hoard them and also display two different ares I love from two different series 🥺

trail garden
#

what

supple dagger
#

what's the other series?

open berry
#
Koei Wiki

Ares (アレス, Ἄρης) is a mythological god born from Zeus and his wife Hera, more commonly associated as the Greek God of War. Athena and Perseus are his siblings. He won sixth place in the Warriors...

thorny surge
#

the gods i guess?

#

wtf is that

supple dagger
#

ooo

open berry
#

I wonder if they'll do chara backgrounds but the backgrounds may just be areas in the game or smth, who knows

thorny surge
#

anyway back to it

#

i assume that if we ever get steam cards it'll be the gods and house NPCs

#

which is uh

#

basically all of the cast

#

or most of it anyway

open berry
#

I'm sure there will be cards once 1.0 hits, they've done them for the previous games

clear oracle
#

Nyx card please

thorny surge
#

they could introduce 90% of the cast as steam cards without entering into spoiler territory

supple dagger
#

Backgrounds would be the three "scenic" spots in-game rn. I think Asphodel's could be a little more worked on but it's nice. I like it.

autumn void
#

what about a theseus card? an asterius card

thorny surge
#

EM or regular?

clear oracle
#

I just want Nyx

open berry
#

prob reg

clear oracle
#

Give me give me

supple dagger
#

Out of curiosity, how many cards could a Steam game have max? I think I've seen 14 for one game. I know the lowest amount could be 4 or 5.

trail garden
#

I want nyx too

#

shes hot

#

wait are we still talking ab stgeam cards

#

those should be extinct by now

thorny surge
#

they are not
we still get em because why not

trail garden
#

they make a good gift when you wanna make sure they dont use cash for drugs

open berry
#

Why on earth would you think steam cards are extinct when they're still a heavily active part of the steam economy

trail garden
#

Because I joke

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and obviously you dont

open berry
#

steam still carts them around for major sales, good way to make some change if you hoard a bunch

#

tone doesn't convey through text

trail garden
#

yes but intelligence does

open berry
#

not really

trail garden
#

😐

#

Too shay

open berry
#

I am not interested in having a slap fight with you rofl best to disengage the topic

trail garden
#

Ofc you'd be such a wimp to call it a slap fight

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rofl

open berry
#

@supple dagger in I think I've seen 16 idk usually it's about 14

astral flint
#

fight fight fight kiss kiss kiss

trail garden
#

I got brass knucklez in this

clear oracle
#

Let it go

trail garden
#

This is okay.

clear oracle
#

This is indeed fine.

supple dagger
#

Ah okay. 🙂

open berry
#

okay i just looked,

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bastion had 5, transistor had 5, pyre had 8

#

so i would say if hades cards came out we're looking at 5~10 perhaps

clear oracle
#

Hades Nyx Zag Meg Dusa Than

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There you go

trail garden
#

Nah

#

not Dusa

cerulean hamlet
#

i just want a beer with asterius

#

is that too much to ask?

open berry
#

yes

trail garden
#

Dionysus

#

He needs to be on one

upbeat willow
#

Dusa would make for a great trading card tbh\

trail garden
#

otherwise yall drunk

clear oracle
#

Yeah

#

I already mentioned Zag though

upbeat willow
#

you're right I am drunk...on life klinkSmile

clear oracle
#

That must feel nicegilmanlove

trail garden
#

So is Codex written by achilles

clear oracle
#

Yup

trail garden
#

ok just making sure

thorny surge
#

yes

trail garden
#

jesus bruh the one fury sister literally just puts you in a small room and explodes you to bits

thorny surge
#

you mean tisiphone?

clear oracle
#

I see you have met Tisiphone

trail garden
#

I had no deflects or anything

#

I already fought her

clear oracle
#

She is a real conversationist

trail garden
#

but not without protection

thorny surge
#

you do know you can hit her projectiles so they'll vanish right?

#

or at least most of those

#

like the witch ones

mystic mortar
#

stay out of the circles

trail garden
#

I have a bow equipped so its a charge

thorny surge
#

press Q 4head

clear oracle
#

Just facetank it like a real man

trail garden
#

I only wanted the blood, not after the ryb

#

run

thorny surge
#

PRESS

#

Q

clear oracle
#

Use shield

#

Hold Attack

trail garden
#

im not talking about her star projectiles

clear oracle
#

???

trail garden
#

im talking ab her bombs

clear oracle
#

Profit

thorny surge
#

her wot

#

the explosions?

clear oracle
#

her wot

thorny surge
#

literally just run out of the circle

trail garden
#

"her wot? the explosions?"

#

no

clear oracle
#

Just dash out of the way

trail garden
#

the bombs

#

jesus christ

thorny surge
#

which bombs

clear oracle
#

What bomb

#

Lmao

#

Haha

trail garden
#

I mean a bomb is literally an explosion

clear oracle
#

Yeah so the circle

#

On the ground

thorny surge
#

tisiphone has no bombs
she has

whip
light thingies
explosion

trail garden
#

mhm

thorny surge
#

and they all can be reasonably avoided

#

whip requires you to dash at the last second

clear oracle
#

Listen to Hypnos

#

Just try dodging

#

5head

thorny surge
#

the light thingies can be attacked so they'll p e r i s h

trail garden
#

yeah not like the whole point was that she made the room too small to not able to dodge

thorny surge
#

and the explosions require you to move out of the very obvious area of attack

clear oracle
#

Ok joking aside

#

Dashing gives you I frame

thorny surge
#

get into the hallway 4head

clear oracle
#

I just time it

thorny surge
#

and then out when she targets it

clear oracle
#

And no bother with the dashing out of the way

thorny surge
#

also yeah, dash

#

also the small room's perfect to nuke her since she can't avoid you either

trail garden
#

dash isnt invulnerability

#

unless you have a boon

#

no?

thorny surge
#

it is

clear oracle
#

No it is

#

Not the whole time

thorny surge
#

you can dash through attacks without getting hurt

clear oracle
#

But there are I frames

thorny surge
#

it's a small window but it works

clear oracle
#

For a normal dash

trail garden
#

alright

clear oracle
#

Just need to time it

#

Real talk

thorny surge
#

yeah
learning the dashing windows for bosses is a hassle but it's also worth it

clear oracle
#

Divine Dash just makes it easier

trail garden
#

OMG

#

GOD

#

I HAD POSEIDON ULT

#

I COULDVE EASILY DODGED THAT

thorny surge
#

WHY DIDN'T YOU CALL POSI THEN

clear oracle
#

Or that

thorny surge
#

YOU COULD HAVE SURFED A BOSS TO DEATH

trail garden
#

😭 ]

#

I forgot okay

thorny surge
#

for shame

trail garden
#

I was only after the blood anyway

#

no way Im using bow any further

thorny surge
#

real talk now always keep an eye on the god gauge

trail garden
#

hydra would eat me alive prob unless I had hold fire

thorny surge
#

also why go only after the blood when you can go after the entire bounty chain

trail garden
#

cause I havent beaten hydra

#

😦

#

bone hydra

thorny surge
#

hydra is ezpz just focus on melting one head at a time

trail garden
#

ive gotten really close every time

thorny surge
#

and you'll be gucci

trail garden
#

i know, I literally almost ran it on my first try

thorny surge
#

theseus and asterius though
first times with those two are always painful

trail garden
#

their names sound like a pain

thorny surge
#

they are

#

i rememember those two being what i struggled with the most

mystic mortar
#

my first fight with them I won

thorny surge
#

it was the opposite for me

mystic mortar
#

the next 3 tho...

thorny surge
#

it took a couple fights with everything except the duo to get used to them and win

clear oracle
#

I almost run through them first try

thorny surge
#

but these two

clear oracle
#

I was really pumped

thorny surge
#

blood and darkness these two gave me nothing but trouble

clear oracle
#

One of my best memory in the earlier run

#

I immediately wanted a rematch

#

It was exciting

trail garden
#

so

#

is there any good reason to buy items from the purple pot? most of them only last for encounters

thorny surge
#

Also if you dislike Tisiphone already i want to see what you think of her sister Alecto

trail garden
#

aside from healing

thorny surge
clear oracle
#

Depends

thorny surge
#

Well of charon items are very situational

open berry
#

zag has a line about wanting a rematch with theseus, hes very upset when he says it, understandably

clear oracle
#

I grab it for boss fights mainly

thorny surge
#

It generally depends on what you need at the moment

#

And skipping wells is a perfectly reasonable thing to do

trail garden
#

I mostly just use it for extra boons or upgrades

thorny surge
#

Also i’d also be upset if i lost to Theseus
I’m fine dying to Asterius but Theseus is adding insult to injury

hollow mortar
#

I like his victory cries friendly

#

Not that I have heard them in ages but still 😊

trail garden
#

half my deaths in bone hydra is from previously dashing into lava constantly

thorny surge
#

Lol

clear oracle
#

Wait till you learn there are options to make lava do 4x damage

#

;)

thorny surge
#

Learning to not take dips into the phlegeton is a valuable skill

open berry
#

being defeated by theseus isnt any more insult to injury than being beat by tiny vermin and having hypnos laugh at you :v

thorny surge
#

I never died to the vermin

open berry
#

i havent either

#

but he has a line for it

#

he laughs, says my condolences and zag is like, no keep them

thorny surge
#

One the one hand i wanna try to see what hypnos has to say about it but on the other one it kinda feels like i’d be wasting the trip

trail garden
#

"I always wondered what would happen if I stopped and caught the flying grenades!'

#

or something like that, mean while the dude gets chewed out by Hades

thorny surge
#

Yeah, Hypnos is like that

#

His entire character exists to throw flak at you for dying

#

That is basically it

clear oracle
#

How you tried dodging?

#

Although Hypnos says that to everyone haha

#

Including Meg

open berry
#

thats why we have an issue with how disconnected he is with everyone else in the house lmao, its not even just that he hasnt gotten narrative material yet, even his existing content just exists in a whole different bubble from everyone else

#

the olympians and even theseus will call zag something, his name, a pet name, just something that refers to him, and hypnos doesnt even do that much. not a single time

thorny surge
#

huh

#

I never noticed that

#

I think you’re right, he never does call you Zagreus doesn’t he

open berry
#

it took me a long time to realize it but once i did i combed through every single bit of material i have, screenshots, everything ive fed into the bot, not a single instance does hypnos ever say zagreus or zag.

thorny surge
#

nice

#

Unbeknownst to all, Hypnos is the only one at the House doing the job he was meant to do
Talking trash at the player

open berry
#

so its not that he feels disconnected because he hasnt gotten narrative material yet, but even as he is now hes so impersonal and thats why a lot of people brush him off. you dont bond with him like basically anyone else in the game. even if you dont bond with the bosses, even alecto and theseus still have something that they call zag that refers specifically to him

clear oracle
#

Hades secretly keeps Hypnos just so he can continue sassing you.

hollow mortar
#

Could you please give me a list of the things Alecto calls Zag?

#

I always find amusing what she has to call him at the moment lol

open berry
#

redblood and god of trash/trash god, off the top of my head

#

id have to go look and see if theres anything else

thorny surge
#

He mainly calls zag redblood, yeah

upbeat willow
#

does Tisiphone get to the point where they say Zagreus even if it's broken a tonne

open berry
#

i think its all just murder :/

cerulean hamlet
hollow mortar
#

Mmmrrrr~

open berry
#

tisi, charon and cerb are in another catergory that cant communicate with zag for one reason or another

cerulean hamlet
#

it's definitely missing ares/nyx stuff

thorny surge
#

It’s murder all the way down baby

cerulean hamlet
#

which is what I was looking for

open berry
#

that blog hasnt been updated since the january update i think

cerulean hamlet
#

yeah, that seems about right

#

which is a shame

thorny surge
#

tisiphone romance when

open berry
#

do you want the entire dialogue chain? ive got is somewhere

cerulean hamlet
#

i figured you might have a more complete set

hollow mortar
#

Why, thank you!

upbeat willow
#

lmao Duwang

open berry
#

i do i just have to search discord for whoever i was talking about it with and throw it on pastebin i guess

cerulean hamlet
#

this blog is just easy to search through

clear oracle
#

It's about time I have my way with you.

#

Hmm

open berry
#

hmm!

hollow mortar
#

Why not, right?

#

Might be amusing to some dusa

open berry
#

i def used it for the bots since its easier to look through

#

i dont know who runs the blog though so im not sure if it'll see an update

hollow mortar
#

That’s a bummer.

cerulean hamlet
#

i also used it to look through Asterius dialogue cause i got the impression that he and Zag could be great friends under different circumstances, I just wanted to confirm my thoughts

mystic mortar
#

What do you mean? they are friends.

thorny surge
#

I uh
Am not sure Asterius really likes us

mystic mortar
#

They have friendly competitions. They respect each other

thorny surge
#

He seems pretty murderous

#

He does- yeah, he definitely respects us, if only as a rival

clear oracle
#

He is competitively murderous

thorny surge
#

But i’m not sure i’d go as far as to say he’s on friendly terms with zag

mystic mortar
#

He thanks you when you kill him - good fight, etc.
He's even respectful when he kills you

thorny surge
#

They could 100% be on friendly terms with each other in different circumstances though

cerulean hamlet
#

it's like two rival athletes

thorny surge
#

Theseus might be an idiot but Asterius is fairly level headed

finite matrix
#

Asterius is a bro, Theseus is a self-righteous idiot

open berry
cerulean hamlet
#

tyty

hollow mortar
#

I liked those 2 interacting with each other. So unexpected but amusing hehe

#

I hope we get other interactions like that...

#

For example, Thanatos and... idk, Aphrodite?

#

That would be really random lol

cerulean hamlet
#

the more i read that, the more it takes less of a Ares x Nyx kind of fanfiction and becomes more of an Olympian god making attempts at bridging relationships with Cthonic gods

#

or maybe i'm reading too much into it

open berry
#

yeah, ares kinda. lays it on thick a bit lmao but what i liked about it was mostly the confirmation that ares is indeed seen as an outcast on olympus, and since we already know by that point that the olympians look down on the underworld gods, you can take it as ares wanting to know more about the chthonic gods out of a sense of kinship too

cerulean hamlet
#

yeah

#

i think my first go around, Zag reacts as if he was the player and it clouds a little bit of what is actually said

thorny surge
#

Yeah it does feel more like Ares having a morbid interest on the underworld than anything else

#

Which does fit him

open berry
#

even zag himself says he doesnt know why hes getting so defensive. but nyx obviously isnt interested in ares in the way zag thinks ares is interested in nyx

cerulean hamlet
#

right

thorny surge
#

He’s also a fan of Thanatos iirc

cerulean hamlet
#

i think we had discussed it before about why the conversation feels like a regression, but that's only from the perspective of Zagreus. and maybe the point is that he just doesn't get it quite yet

open berry
#

"Perhaps you know a god called Thanatos? The two of us are very close associates, you know. Do give him my best wishes should you see him soon."
"I trust that Thanatos is doing well? Although he brings to mortals merciful release, whilst I most certainly do no such thing, I do appreciate his take on it."

the comments ares makes on thanatos are nothing but polite. i kinda wish there would be more commentary from than about ares. his work is inherently tied in with ares, and nyx and hermes have both made comments about ares and how he basically keeps the underworld busy lmao

cerulean hamlet
#

what a nice young man

thorny surge
#

“So now that you’re in friendly terms with the Cthonic gods, could you dial down the wars a bit? We’re already swamped with the eternal winter and the constant strife isn’t helping”
“Hahahahaha no

open berry
#

he can be persuaded according to myth. but it better be a good offering, and its not a permanent thing either

thorny surge
#

Yeah

autumn void
#

i've found that D4 dice work pretty well with him

#

loves those things

trail garden
#

whats the skull arrow thing under a god's symbol for a gate

#

does it mean the rarity is increased?

autumn void
#

for god boons, yes

#

that guide is accurate for what the elite badges correlate to, but if a god boon is for such a chamber, then it does have increased rarity boons, which isn't specified by that particular guide

#

but it does become common knowledge as you continue playing

trail garden
#

I mean its one of those things that you just figure

open tiger
#

That also applies to some others—elite key rooms can grant 2 keys, elite hearts give +50

trail garden
#

obviously a miniboss room is gonna have a better chance of rarity

#

than a regular

autumn void
#

you're the one who asked

trail garden
#

I didnt know it was a miniboss room

#

I just asked what the symbol was

#

I already assumed it was better loot

autumn void
#

does it mean the rarity is increased?

#

and i answered

trail garden
#

guy-

#

so if the hanged photo of what im guessing to be best killer of the month in the bar changes to Meg, does that mean the kpop person that was there prior is person in the game

drifting citrus
#

well uh

#

keep playing

rapid nest
#

what are the prerequisites for getting the fishing rod? i have like 7 diamonds now and have gotten most of the gemstone upgrades, do i need to buy cosmetic stuff too?

finite matrix
#

Dis how I do it?

#

Yeah it is

open tiger
#

nice!

upbeat willow
#

perfect ^_^ congrats again klinkHyper

finite matrix
#

Scintillating Feast + Cold fusion + Ice Wine residentzag

#

Thank you once again, Aggy

#

This is now the strongest build in my book

fervent skiff
#

laughs in Hera-Artemis

glad phoenix
#

I thought Dionysus/Ares was better for Hera

clear oracle
#

Now climb those heat

#

Welcome to the fold

open tiger
#

level nine Divine Flourish

#

I think that's the highest level boon I've gotten

#

alright, time to fight hades with 4 T1 Athena boons, 1 T3, 1 Hermes Boon, 2 Hammers, and a Chaos

#

this might be tied for the least boons run I've done

#

only lost one hit on the Acorn, as well

glad phoenix
#

Nice job!

fervent skiff
#

well played

finite matrix
#

Bro I just got Hermes' legendary boon like ????

open tiger
#

it's so good!!!

fervent skiff
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Its useless on non-cast builds though =/

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I only end up using when I'm running Hera or Posiedon

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It works amazing on those two aspects

open tiger
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@north cloak which one was it?

north cloak
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Which what, sorry?

open tiger
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the narrator

north cloak
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Oh, lol,

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So Zagreus goes out to find his mother... but let's pretend he was absolutely clobbered

open tiger
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yup :D

north cloak
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laughing out loud

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i'm so mad and so happy at the same time

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LOL

drifting citrus
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did y'all know that the olympians are actually called different names depending on where you are in the world?

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for example, in the uk they call her demeter, but in america they call her defoot

cerulean hamlet
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booooooooooooooo

clear oracle
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Truly enlightening

runic terrace
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ajfingerguns EEEYYY

wet tendon
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Some may say I went a bit overboard with armor damage, but I think it's just fine

mystic mortar
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no one is going to criticize your armor damage. Armor sucks

devout pilot
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hi guys, havent been on this server in a hot minute

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any word/speculation on the next update's contents?

open berry
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nope

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well as far as when

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but nothing beyond whats shown in the march trailer

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for content

upbeat willow
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As far as when, june sometime

split kelp
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Charon will get his new model and he's gonna have a sweet hat, that's about the extend of what we know.

devout pilot
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thanks, i hope im not sounding like a broken record here but, been hurting for some end/story

open berry
upbeat willow
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That hat is amazing, definitely have no intentions on stealing borrowing it...nope not at all

open berry
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and the ingame roadmap mentions well of charon rework

devout pilot
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lol Aggy

open berry
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actually come to think of it i dont think it actually uses rework but uh it seems to be an update centered around charon/well of charon with some other adjustments and stuff

open berry
hollow mortar
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Well, at least Aphrodite loves him 😅

open berry
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dionysus is indifferent too, I don't think hermes necessarily feels negativity towards him either. the other olympians all distrust him though rofl and nyx confirms this

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it's interesting he's made more of a gentleman while retaining the outcast status, I like it

hollow mortar
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Hermes gave me the "Ares gives me more work than I'd like" vibes. Artemis was so-so but then again, she's like that towards most of her family lol

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Dionysus is chill, I like that 🍷

open berry
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dio is honestly just living in the moment and doesn't care what everyone else is up to lol

clear oracle
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I don't trust people who are that happy go lucky.

spiral pond
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because he can stop time

open berry
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would have been fun if sgg had incorporated more of orphic dio into his interpretation, add a bit of underlying chaotic madness. not like blatant or anything but you get a glimpse of it, particularly when you scorn him. rn you make him upset and he's just thought we were bros! nvm what was I mad about? idk it's humorous but also not terribly interesting

spiral pond
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ok but imagine his trial is more dangerous than what is now

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it drives enemy faster movement speed and attack speed

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aka feast frenzy

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temporarily

open berry
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make dio a threat!

spiral pond
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kinda like athena's invicible window

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it will be mega pain in high heat and trial will become something you really gotta think rather than a straightforward choice

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because as of now the trials are so easy if you dont pick trial room you are not playing it right

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you get 2 boons and thats huge

open berry
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I would second guess scorning him depending on hp and what the map is like, with smth like that lol. as it is now dio's trial isn't really one I deliberately avoid

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I think the main one I shy away from atm is demeter, bc the ice has a wide range and it's not hard to get distracted and caught in it, so the slow down is an annoyance. I avoid athena purely on principle. anyone else though... can't really say other trials annoy me enough to steer clear, unless I'm already running rift, then ares trial becomes a mess lol

primal cipher
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Hey, I've been out of the loop a bit since the minor Aphrodite update. Do we have any rough date about the next update?

silk saffron
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They'll let us know closer to the release date

open berry
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sometime in june! cait told us last week the update is still on track as planned but that's all the info we can have at this time

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I'm sure there will be something in announcements just prior to the update once they're ready

primal cipher
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Awesome thanks for the update on the update

hushed dome
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sometime in june? is there a more specific date ? im really excited

cloud geode
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not for now, no, they will probably tell us when they know
otherwise the update will be a nice holiday surprise

dense sparrow
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the update is probably dedicated to Juno

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get it?

thorny surge
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wrong pantheon

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still nice pun

dense sparrow
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the name june is based on Juno tho

thorny surge
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imagine if they added the option to romance zeus on juno's month though

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i know

clear oracle
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Hi everyone,

Definitely not an SGG rep here, but the June update will happen on June 16th 2020. SSG is on track and hopes everyone will enjoy the contents that will definitely be released on the above date.

Stay frosty,
Love

Definitely not SSG rep.

thorny surge
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that's why i said nice pun

dense sparrow
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and then they add the option to romance ares in march

hushed dome
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will there possibly be a hades keepsake?

thorny surge
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probably not

clear oracle
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No the new keepsake will come from the Chef

dense sparrow
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dun think so

thorny surge
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nice

dense sparrow
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chief what?

hushed dome
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chief bouldy

thorny surge
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wretched broker keepsake
it makes everything more expensive

clear oracle
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And scale off not Ambrosia but how many fishes you caught

thorny surge
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i imagine they meant chef

dense sparrow
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well the new one will come from Her-shef

finite matrix
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I caught 0 fishes oh ye

hushed dome
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oh yeah btw will there be a new malphon aspect in the next update or two?

thorny surge
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we dunno

hushed dome
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welp ill just keep on dreaming of it

dense sparrow
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shadedisgruntled no one reacted to my pun

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buprobably thats my pun-ishment

hushed dome
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please stop

finite matrix
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^

dense sparrow
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oh come on its just a few puny puns

hushed dome
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im out

pearl plank
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I think scorning Athena in trials isn't so bad anymore

thorny surge
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yeah, athena trials are basically "whoops she made that enemy temporally invincible" and not that much of a hassle outside timed runs

open berry
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I am just conditioned to not bother bc of pre-nerf greatshields

split kelp
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Artemis is probably the best one to spurn, Athena also isn't really that bad. Demeter on the other hand...

finite matrix
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Aphrodite tho

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15 dmg minimum and it's a homing nuke

split kelp
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Yup, 15 damage + like 80 more from the gang of wretched thugs that just waited for you to be stunned.

clear oracle
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Yup Arte is best girl for that reason

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She doesn't go bat sht crazy if you don't choose her

finite matrix
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And it never stops coming for you

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She literally does

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She tries to kill you

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Unlike meg, who does it because it's her job

clear oracle
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Everyone does

finite matrix
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Stop

clear oracle
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Arty less so

finite matrix
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You're wrong

clear oracle
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She is like you hurt my feeling

finite matrix
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Bro no she gets mad bc you didn't choose her blessing ffs

clear oracle
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That's it

finite matrix
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YES

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And then she tries to rip you to shreds

clear oracle
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Every God does that

finite matrix
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Meaning no god can be classified as best girl or dude

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They're all bad

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Meg, on the other hand...

clear oracle
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Smh my head

finite matrix
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Ding dong your opinion is wrong

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She's the only one who doesn't ACTUALLY want to kill you

vapid parcel
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Dusa doesn't want to kill you tho, and she also never does thanthink

onyx leaf
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"Dusa doesn't want to kill you tho, and she also never does has not yet"

vapid parcel
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well yes, never does so far, kinda thought that was implied xD

onyx leaf
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Call me an optimist

vapid parcel
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us at Dusa "what do you have?"
Dusa "a knife!"

onyx leaf
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Lord knows how venomous those snakes are. Who could say what they might do in... unexpected situations

thorny surge
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Both your opinions are wrong because as laddies and erogla pointed out dusa is a superior waifu because she never tries to murder you

ebon rose
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"I love you, Nyx" "I love you too, my child"

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Couldn't help but go "Awwww" out loud at that

vapid parcel
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can't everyone be best

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also yeah that's so cute

ebon rose
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I finally picked the game back up today after a bit of a hiatus, and after just one run I've had the "Kore" dialogue, a heart to heart with Achilles about Chaos and Nyx, and that wonderful mother/son moment.

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This game is adorable

open berry
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now if only nyx would talk to her actual son and not dismiss him because he's not living up her expectations

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like it's cool she got that tender moment with zag and all but [gesturing at hypnos] hello sgg what's going on here

vapid parcel
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mood man

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give hypnos

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also at least we know who's the best boy

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truly no competition

ebon rose
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Has Nyx been dismissive of hypnos? I haven't really heard her mention him, but Zag never mentions Hypnos to her, and Nyx only talks to Zag about people Zag talks to her about.

open berry
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she literally doesn't talk to him

vapid parcel
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she does eventually mention him after zag asks

open berry
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more or less implies he's too immature and needs to grow up and not rely on her for menial things, so they don't speak

vapid parcel
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which is not how you do that

open berry
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which I think is really f word but whatevs

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I just can't help but think like. imagine what it would feel like to watch your mom and friend get close, seeing your friend get the love and attention you want from your mom but mom says you have to learn independence first

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it's great angst material for hypnos but also what the heck man

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it only adds to how disconnected he is from everyone in the house lol

vapid parcel
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that's also not how education works

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like, if you want someone to be more independent you start slowly

open berry
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it's not. if thanatos and nyx are trying to make a point to hypnos through tough love, that's not how you do it

flat shell
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None of the gods are good parents and that seems to be a reoccuring theme intentionally, so hopefully that gets addressed? At some point? on how it's messing everyone up

vapid parcel
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yeah exactly :c

dim sigil
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There is also a small part of me that thinks Hades himself deserves a better ending than he’s currently got but shhh

open berry
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what's really messed up here is you can see it as zag getting the parental affection from nyx that he craves from his father... but in turn hypnos is denied that himself

vapid parcel
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sadly we don't know how long any of this has been going on, i would be really interested in that

dim sigil
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Also yeah, Hypnos deserves better; everyone knows that he’s the god of sleep too, so he can’t really help it. Have you seen the bags under his eyes?

open berry
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sarijinn gets it