#h1-story-discussion
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Glad that you're enjoying it! I started a new save recently too, managed to clear Meg on the 5th run (2nd or 3rd Meg attempt, had some bad luck with boons)
Huge difference from when I first played at launch though
Took me somewhere around 35 runs
haha ive somehow got worse
why was meg in zag's room 👀
Reasons
i've ONLY seen meg, no sign of thanatos or the other furies. Do I not have enough heat?
Yeah, you're too early in the game
😅 oof
just keep on keeping on, you'll get there eventually 😛
should be plenty of story elsewhere to keep you busy till then
oh hey i just encountered one!
Me entering the room: Oh hey meg, new outfit?
Oh wait...
good luck finding thanatos
Question
is there a specific way to trigger thanatos showing up or do i just need to keep playing
You just need to keep playing
ty
If you're too early in the game, he won't show up, and he also won't interrupt boss battles or non-combat rooms
cool
so if you go to more normal combat rooms you have a better chance of seeing him
i've met alecto and tis, and beaten the hydra multiple times so i was wondering if there was a trigger
You need at least 23 escape attempts for him to start showing up 😃
So if you are there then it just a matter of time.
i'm at around 50 hah
there might be some narrative triggers, i'm not too sure
yeah i was about to say
with hades and wossname
probably just a matter of time then
dream guy
hypnos
right
...meg's sisters are nasty
not sure who's hardest to fight though
maybe alecto?
I think the big issue is remembering their patterns. They all have some similar attack animations, so keeping them properly separated in your noggin is the way to success.
For my money, I really dislike Tisi's final phase, where she puts you into a tiny little box. But I also always have 50% Whipped Frenzy so I have a bit if a different perspective on it.
anything with deflect makes Tisi a lot easier i feel
Shield destroys her
whipped frenzy tisi sounds like my worst nightmare
i thought that no longer had deflect by default?
mmm
Yeah but I am always on bow. Whipped Frenzy Tisi is indeed spooky, until you get the timing down to just instantly send her into her invuln phase.
i'm not confident enough in my runs to start investing heat
I, surprisingly enough, havent found Tisi or Alecto super hard but it’s because of the build I run I’m aware of that
Just ease into ease into it señorsalsa better to start using heat when you feel comfy
Record scratched myself
@barren perch dont know wha you're running now but i always rec spear + titan toppler. I'm bad at games and it seems to work anyway
i'll try it out when i get back this weekend
I dodge and attack constantly. What is an attack pattern? I just dont know. Hope it works for you and if it doesnt thats chill
I like that this game has multiple viable builds
is there a date like you get with dusa with anyone else
im gonna assume "date" means a lounge conversation
zag to hades: i'm going out
(cut to sisyphus' room)
zag, holding hands with sisyphus: ...on a date
LMAO
Canon
definitely canon
when sisyphus gets his youtuber face reveal i might die
It's already confirmed (through his model and dialogue) that Sisyphus is ripped, I can't wait to see his beautiful face
athena vs sisyphus arm wrestling
thanatos is also ripped but part of me doesn’t want to accept that
accept it
arm,,,,, is classic
And then Apollo's gonna come in and just be a cute chubby guy.
listen if apollo's buff i'm going to be actually mad
what did he get buff from?? playing the lyre?? benchlifting prophecies?? petting sheep? get outta here
takes a lot of strength to break so many hearts
dionysus is already way more buff than he has any right to be but at least i'm relieved he didn't turn out to be danny devito
dionny devito
Apollo got ripped to punch hermes for stealing cattle
I wish we had dionny devito
iasip intro card The Gang Kills The Hydra
Hypnos Is Not Ripped and he will never get ripped
At some point, Zag is gonna make Hypnos bench press in his sleep so he can get ripped too.
hypnos is gonna have to condition himself to do pull ups in his sleep
if orpheus isn’t at least as ripped at zeus i’m rioting
thats too ripped!!!! glue him back!!!
orpheus should be ripped to break the skinny court musician stereotype
m o r e
noooooo he's too dainty-sounding to be ripped
there are buff guys with high voices
it'd be like if hypnos looked like a weightlifter
Hypnos skips every day
are you perhaps afraid of buff orpheus
No, Orpheus can be ripped as heck, but Hypnos is a twig
hypnos is busy being 2cool4school
Buff orpheus or burst
Hypnos cannot get buff while composing the hottest punkfolk hit of 436 bc
Flashbacks to ripped tariq memes back in the day
@spring scaffold cute chubby guys are better than ripped guys fite me fall of soliam 4 masteries all talismans
It's more about having Some variety
yeah I have nothing against ripped guys at all
the character designs in this game are fantastic
Tho now I'm less mad about achilles being huge because he seems like he was once the type of person to wear muscle shirts that say SUNS OUT GUNS OUT
when he was young and alive
it's just that cute chubby guys are more, uh, attractive to me xP
Why would I fight you on this? I genuinely want the one dubbed "most beautiful of the gods", usually pictured as a pretty ripped dude, to be chubby, because chub is good.
wait danny from game grumps has a shirt that says “i flexed so hard the sleeves came off”
achilles ?
👀
Yeah.....!
To me Achilles being buffed is a given. I mean, he was an unmatched warrior and prepared his whole life for the war.
+ Fixed a rare issue where Slothful (Chaos) curses could break the Asphodel 'river crossing' encounter
zag just tries to get to the boat
but it leaves without him
when the bus leaves w/o u
+ Fixed an issue where the Bone-Hydra sometimes spawned more heads than expected
ayyyyyyyy
i helped!!!!
haha you do that!!!!
slothful causing the boat to leave without you is exactly what happened
oh my god
i wanna know if anyone caught that on a recording because that sounds amazing
"come baaaaaack"
Question: Furies are, in game, daughters of Nyx or born from blood of Uranus?
my assumption was the latter
tisiphone's codex entry mentions tales of the Furies having come from the spilt blood of the eldest of the Titans, and Nyx says Megaera is a daughter to [her], as [Zagreus] is her child
Oooooh thanks.
ie: not actually her child
Yeah, yeah, got it first time, but again thanks
there's no need to be so dismissive, dude, i was just making my point a little clearer
.......... Did it really sounded like that?......better to remember to add ":D" next time.......... sorry
oh i remember seeing someone on reddit say the boat left without them, glad that was fixed lol
@granite pebble also greg confirmed that nyx wasn’t the furies’ mother in the game
So it’s textually in the game and also confirmed by narrative team i guess
whaaaat
Like wiggly snakes on her head?
Dusa doing a flip 
Before fliyng away?
let hypnos floss
Im pretty sure Dusa doing a flip is called a "Barrel Roll"
In fact, she could even say, when rolling away, "Heads are about to roll"
um, im dusa , and- and youre on- youre watching disney channel!!! (draws mickey mouse w a snake)
snickey
snickey snouse
ricky rat....
Not Thanatos :^)
Hypnos wants to have Thanatos... ||kill everyone at the same time to save time. Why? Cause he just wants to spend more time with his brother. || #Caring
oops
spoiler tags can't protect you from proxy gkdfjgfd
||never mind the fact that it would create a lot more work for hypnos, which means he would gladly work overtime to give his brother a break||
This is why Hypnos is awesome and Thanatos is awful.
Well, after whining about it, I just beat Hydra on attempt 29, and I gotta say, ||Hades talking about how the place is actually under rennovation was way more work than I thought would be put into an Early Access game||, and I wanna see what's under those sheets!!
👏 👏
So I notice a new reward type in the codex, but I haven't actually seen any new type of loot . Has anyone found it yet?

try using the challenge gates
Ahhhh
Umm...
|| (Walks into Zag's room after a pretty disappointing run to find Meg standing at the foot of the bed) ||
My exact thoughts, in full:
|| "What the Hell?, that's Meg, Why's she here?
Is this meant to happen?
Why is she so close to the bed!?!
This isn't going where I think it's going, is it?!
No, they wouldn't do that, they wouldn't dare give this game an adult rating, it would severely limit their audience!
Wait, this game does already have some swearing in it right?, maybe they'll just have some suggestive dialogue then fade to black, that would just about squeeze through the censors I guess
Ooh, that would really tick off the Dusa shippers!, it's not gonna be pretty in the discord if this happens!
Unless... I accidently triggered it by talking to Meg loads and there will be other scenes depending on who you prioritise?
Okay, I'm probably over thinking it, that spot is probably just the default 'insert NPC here' spot for this room
But come on!, the SGG guys are smart, they have to know that looks suggestive, if she really is just here to chat, why not put her in the actual centre of the room!?
(clicks next)
(Zag politely asks if she is just snooping around or if she needs something)
Oh come on dude! I know I said I liked that you were polite to people and showed the other characters genuine respect, because it's actually quite rare for protagonists in action games but now is not the time for calm, understated reactions God damn it!!
Your (probably) Ex is standing in your room, uninvited, at the foot of your bed!
Show an appropriate level of emotion! ||
|| (she replies that she's just there to collect some of her stuff)
Ooh, okay, it's an "ex comes to your house unexpectedly after several months to grab all the belongings she left behind" scenario,
Fair enough
Wait, what's she gonna take?
Is the room gonna change in some way?
Is she gonna take one of the decorations on the wall?
No, wait, I bought those, they can't be hers, never mind
(she tells him he's let the room go to hell)
Oh for goodness sake, they're not gonna make a joke about the fact she said hell are they?, the humour in this game is pretty on point for the most part but the repetition of the same 3 or so basic jokes is getting kinda annoying
(no joke is made, she just leaves) ||
...
...
...
WELL THAT WAS A FAT LOAD OF NOTHING!!
What the hell SGG?, You're not even gonna tell us what she took?
You huge teases!"
She took a raccoon of hers she was hiding under your bed.
my theory is she actually didn't leave anything and she stole something of yours
its megs turn to hold the sandra
SHE STOLE MY ORB WIFE? 
sandra's in better care now lbr
That entire exchange took around 15 to 20 seconds btw...
yeah meg and sandra can salt like nobody's business
i ship it
same now that i think about it
it's pam and sandra but updated for our modern hades-containing world
they both know a thing or two about eternal service for a pretty mean dude
"you remind me of someone i knew a thousand years ago except less depressed"
and yyyyup
hadeum murr
halloumi murr
gkdfhgkjdfgkdf
halloumi??? like the cheese
his horns are moustache shaped
listen i just got out of the shower and i'm still a bit light headed from not being able to breathe properly in there
there's more steam than air in there
deep breaths jan
the fact that the main symbol of hades's architecture comes from his beard is hilarious to me
"sir do you want some decoration"
"make it my beard, but upside down"
maybe he put a plaster wall bit under his mouth and let the hair grow around it
hades was the kid who always drew the super s in school but it was the super beard instead
it looks pretty similar
oh my god did i subconsciously reference a tweet of yours jan
AHHH I LIKED IT TOO I DID
im so sorry i would have linked it
great minds produce the same garbage
it was only like 2 weeks ago how did i forget like that
bc the past seven days were a thousand years long
ugh i didnt wanna admit it but yea
anybody in this server got a time machine
god. right
were gonna do it over again
but better
HADES: MUR2R DEATH^2 K2LL: COMING SOON 2 THEATERS
more like hados amirite
HADOS!!!!!
TWOsiphone! alecTWO! and thanaTWOs!!!
achillthrees
whoAAAAAA
hypdos
HYPDOS...
achillthrees is when changing the timeline to save the week goes wrong and achilles careens off course and we have to put him back while saving everyone else too
like we sit back and go we did it!! we made a second mdk!! and then achilles is like trojan war? whos that and we go NOOOO
Trojan war? More like "la Guerre de Trois".
oh my god.
Trojan War more like Troy Story
JHGFFVHJFHJFJ
oh thats good
NICE
Sub 15 (even if by less than a second) is impressive!
Thanks!
I just missed getting a 10:30 run, because I stood in too much Hydra damage.....fastest run of my life, and I missed it by 5% >_<
24 whole hours without seeing thanatos i think im@going crazy
I've seen him twice since the update happened.
he’s the type of teacher to give u a detention@for drinking without asking permission
if ur realy thirsty hell give u a water bottle but tell u sternly after class not to tell anyone he gave it to u
I've seen him 3 times
And when it's in aspho it's really hard to beat him
Armor and he just one shots
Meanwhile I'm whittling away at 1000 health enemies
i saw him twice in one day of playing and i was like i’m blessed to death
Literrrruly
Got a super clean run with sword
Lost a bunch of death defies in asphodel so I lost some time to play it safe
But I killed alecto at 3:07, final time was 7:30
I never see Thanatos, since the update i had like a dozen runs, but he showed up only twice
he's a busy boy
hes busy buying soup at hot topic
soup as black as his tears and as deep as his empty heart
Finally got my first clear!! Deadly reversal and Divine flourish all the way at level 5 carried me through the hydra fight haha https://gyazo.com/ac1c991152cf7bb8b4ef7a5af2848432
\o/ Congrats!
Congrats chucka 
they got added in the last major update
Deadly reversal is incredible
after a deflect i was doing like 250+ damage per spear throw and taking out hyrdra heads in like 3 or 4 throws. after making it all the way to hydra so many times it feels so good to finally beat it
just checked, 41 attempts 
F

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idk why i put that in this channel, i meant to put it in gameplay,,
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its chilled, Daedalus Hammers are a secret
i play hades and have a stopwatch on to count how long it takes to find thanatos
hey thanatos stop bullying your brother,,
SHOOM
SHOOM!
shoom!
who would win:
-all the new character writing in the entire murderdeathkill update
-one shoom!
fjdmgfd
Shoom, every time
sisyphus canonically shoomed on thanatos
remember last nights convo about going back in time a week to rerelease this update? were calling it the shoom update
(bursts into sgg from a week ago) im from the future you gotta change the name to the shoom update
woah jesus tisi just became butterflies?
🦋 wings? wings?
Tisi and Alecto turn into bats I think
Bats = Bugs this is true I'm a Bugs major
bats = cute
tisi = cute
bats = tisi
Bugs = Cute too, coward
youre right i need to make peace with bugs
youve clearly never woken up next to a spider
Something can be cute while also invading your personal space. You gotta tell that spider to mind your boundaries
Like Dusa cuddling you in the middle of the night.
dusa sleeping and her snakes tongues flickering out as she snores
Do you think her snake hair hibernate during the winter?
Dusa has to wear a hat that keeps her snakes from drooping everywhere while they slee🅱
throws ambrosia at him but he just poofs away
hes hurted a lot of hearts 😔
thanny is literally the most powerful character in the game bc his power extends to real life
throw an ambrosia at thanatos while he's porting out and you just hear "WHAT THE--" and then the little fwoomph of him vanishing
i guess i HAVE TO NOW
AAAGHH I HAVENT SEEN THAT YET AND IM (COVERS EYES BUT KINDA PEEKS)
oh hey they fixed the extra line
😭 what a guyyyyy
spoilers chat i thought everyone would be safe 
yeah its my fault for hangin in here 😂
ok mood
NPCs are impervious to damage when attacking. Bouldy is the most powerful character because it won't even let you pretend to hurt him. There is no "impervious" shield because he is too powerful to even comprehend harm
the screencap i have of that line has an extra line after "voluntarily"
Yeah, I also got "cease this nonsense"
patch update: thanny got nicer a little bit
hgkdjfhg
jkgjhgjkgjk
he did NOT
I had the sound off so I didn't hear the mismatch
.....god, i really, really need to organise my screencaps better
i have 266 screencaps that's just. dialogue.
im gonna get back to the house and hes gonna slap me into olympus
thanks for doing my job for me than
plus 21 that are from before the game had a built-in screencaps feature i think
or just before it started numbering them or whatever
😳
that's not even all of them.....
Im a bit late, but Im pretty sure they do split into butterflies, not bats
Its kind of a big motif of the patch for some reason
I HAVE A SCREENSHOT I WANNA SCREAM OVE R AM I ALLOWED
YES YOU ARE
i'm looking at the death animations and they're too bulky to be butterflies
Maybe spoiler tag it tho
Hm
YEAH I GOT THAT DIALOGUE AND SQUEAKED
IM SCREAMING
so far as i can tell
they're a bit..... neon green, i'd have to extract the frames and check on a darker bg
Whenever I finish a Than room I like to walk with Than to the exit. He could port instead of pathing, but he doesn't, so as not to be rude I walk with him.
This is the truest moment of bonding with Than, 10/10 will always walk with him.
something that haunts me at times is whether ive drawn more pictures of pyre things than there are art assets in the game itself
hades is a harder race because they keep adding stuff but pyre? i might have surpassed
no
that's usually how it works, yeah!
you should make a google drive lol
i don't want to though
understandable tbh
I'm at a little over 20 runs and still havent bumped into alecto, tisiphone, or thanatos
any ballpark of when i can expect to see em?
Thanatos starts showing up after run 23, I believe
Not sure about alecto and tisiphone, probably depends on how many times you've beat Meg
I see, thanks 😄
thanatos shows up if you make a summoning circle with black candles and put a hot topic t-shirt in the middle and sing mcr welcome to the black parade
trust me i tried it
Ayy just got my first victory against the Hydra
Nice!!!!
Oh btw I think there are narrative triggers for thanatos showing up too - convos about him for example, tho idk which ones or if they're ambrosia-gated
Hey, for what it's worth -- normally we like to avoid providing design detail that isn't in the game, though I can confirm in this case that there are no narrative triggers for Thanatos showing up.
Events that foreshadow certain characters or events generally are set to expire after those events, rather than being necessary for those events to occur, if that makes sense.
We try to be 'realistic' about it in the sense that, if the event specifically involves an action on Zag's part, then that action can be required -- e.g., you do have to defeat Meg enough times to set the events in motion where her sisters return. But if it's something that would happen without Zag's intervention, it will just happen on its own.
A specific example is when the Lounge opens up early on -- the closing of the Lounge is in the backstory. You can have conversations about it that give some insight into why it closed, but it will reopen no matter what. Intro conversation with Dusa varies based on whether you engaged with those events or not.
Our general intention is for the narrative to be opt-in as much as possible -- we don't want players to engage with the narrative out of a sense of necessity, but simply because they want to.
Hope that helps give a sense of how we're thinking about this stuff at the moment!

👀
cool

@fair light says - "...we don't want players to engage with the narrative out of a sense of necessity..."
That's there mostly as a joke
I guarantee you it will change when the game is released or later in EA
Yeah, of course, my post is also in gest. Jon Hamm is never angry 😉
Posting this made me remember that I am a Hamm fan, also a huge NPR fan (yeah you hear me). This EP of "Wait Wait...Don't Tell Me!" is very good, and features Jon Hamm at Minute 20:00 - Minute 30:00
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/7-wait-wait-dont-tell-28457200/episode/jon-hamm-29920435/
i know this was vaguely related to your previous messages, but please take off topic things to #off-topic-discussion in the future!
I noticed that the special for the rail gun is kinda slow. What if it was faster if there was more distance between you and the target. Or faster the closer you are to your target. It would make using it a little bit more dynamic.
it was actually just sped up in a recent patch haha
I thought it was fine even before, honestly
I haven’t played the new one
what happens when you talk to daddy hades 999 times?
Hades shows up in real life and shames you for dying ~1,1k times
(stares at him) d.....dad? youre here?
ah, my dad is disappointed in me! it’s just like real life
i have my dad saved in my phone as hades anyway what if i thought it was him and picked up the phone and loganvoice is like BOI and im like WHOA WHO ARE U
sidenote im not a boy but i feel like hades' BOIIII is gender neutral disappointment hgfchfcghfcgh
xD
@shut patrol for me though on the funny side it's orpheus' I mean we're dead! We're fine!
shoom!
fhfjfhdjg
meg's battle lines are also something hhfhfjfhjhj
for like heartwrenchingness maybe zag being like I don't want anything to...happen when he's worrying abt achilles
also What can I say lad? I loved him with all my heart
YEAH THOSE R BOTH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
the other line that makes me (grabs my heart like im dying) is zag's "that almost contained all of the components of a compliment!"
some of those new than lines rly hit the zag Soft™ voice too and it's like "oh i'm die????"
anytime zag makes the switch from like tough guy backtalking and killing wretches to Soft™ it destroys me
_( :(」∠)_
....
there we go
zag's Soft™ voice makes my heart hurt
me whenever he does that voice:
HGFFHJFGHJFJ
I thought of you and hoped you'd understand. 😭 😭
its not even the words so much it's just the tone.......
and tbh the then ill say it for you. goodbye, zagreus in return is 
the song of achilles
oh my god...
oh kam did u not remember
yeah that reference is in there fhrjgkg
zag: oh, id love to hear the song of achilles
orpheus: (turns into madeline miller) yeah so-
orpheus singing like "if it's a parody, satire, or transformative work it falls under fair use! (sings the entirety of song of achilles)"
YEAH!!!!
NHVNHVHJVHVHJ DARREN'S BIGGEST CHALLENGE YET
KEEPING UP THE FALSETTO FOR A LIKE 200 PAGE BOOK
oh god i'm looking thru my hades pictures and i just connected two dots
oh?
we need a hypnos/skelly interaction https://i.imgur.com/yZb0sqn.jpg
i've connected the dots
"i like statues"

statues are just asleep
perfect chance to nap
speaking of which i got another conversation between hypnos and thanatos and i just

a secret interaction that unlocks once you unlock all skelly statues where hypnos learns about them and tries to commission some for himself, culminating in a tender hypnos x skelly romance
he's a sleepy boy than!!!! don't be mean!!!!!
you know what? im on board with hypnoskelly
kam we can't be friends any more
DSFGHFG
it kills hypnomeg AND skelly/achilles its tactical
i'm sorry that's just the way it has to be 😔
jhghjfhjfhj
hypnos: are you a training dummy cuz i keep hitting on you
skelly: yes
also id like hypnomeg on the only condition that hypnos starts wearing off on meg and she starts talking like him
meg: you ready zag? let's get this bread
zag: i donT KNOW WHAT thIS MEANS
meg trying really hard to be Cool
i mean she is cool but like. she slowly begins to think memes are cooler
hypnos and meg date for about a week before she dumps him over the worlds tiniest argument but she can never escape that memes are cool now
they are
you've got a friend in meme..........
meg, hitting zag so hard he flies back into the previous chamber: yeet
LISTEN this would 100% make hypnos feel less lonely from thanatos ignoring him and zag being away most of the time
IT WOULD JGHJFJH
poor hypnos he just cant friends good
HES GOT A MEME FRIEND...
but tbh none of them can
hades characters ranked by how good they are at making friends go
meg and than are like, have seen real living people and kind of understand but hypnos is just like commenting on how people died is all i know so maybe. make it funny??
ghdkghdj oh god well
dusa
ok yeah dusa #1
i assume we mean chthonics
mhm
god they're all so standoffish i think zag is in second
who's worse at making friends, meg or than
my personal opinion is that it's than
meg scary but she has, like, a work mode and a free time mode
than is bad at making friends yeah
i'm like pretty sure zag is the only person than talks to for anything other than work fhdjgkg
really, thanatos "care about people but absolutely never let anyone know this fact ever and vehemently deny it every time it comes up" hadesgame can't make friends
a shock
i know right
...scratch that, don't tell anyone about this.
i know we were just talking abt john mulaney "i'll hold all my feelings right here and then i'll die" but
ill just keep all my feelings right here, and im death.
i'll keep all my feelings right here, and then everyone else will die.
FHDKGHD YEAH everyone else dies so nobody can see he has feelings
me: oh my god thanatos you're smiling!!!!
thanatos, in the most deadpan tone possible: your time is up
i’m just imagining meg in her like calm collected voice going “yeet.”
dramatic pause.....yeet
also than has a grand total of 0 friends
he has u
gosh i hope than gets a theme song to play in his challenge rooms in the future......

mod that sticks WAKE ME UP when he shows up
thanatos theme is megalovania-
“THIS AINT A SONG FOR THE BROKEN HEARTED”
thanny just emits good charlotte's broken hearts parade wherever he goes
yesssss
Alternatively it’d be really funny if he just played popcorn constantly but not necessarily on brand
We're talking about that song right- yeah
I only know it from that niel cicierega mashup
To be fair I’ve only heard it once outside of that lol
It would be on point if he emitted ambient floor corn all the time
aaaaaaaa
shades crawling behind him eating the popcorn
hey what's charon's favorite song
p-paper boats
because he has a boat. floating on a stream,
Thanatos be like
Hey
you're doing good
I can't officially help you but I can challenge yo
you*
Also, lowkey thinking that the fact that Hades is so against the idea of Zag leaving is that he's trying to keep up appearances
He has to be the bad guy so to speak
zag: look than i didnt ask you to-
than: ITS NOT LIKE I CARE OR ANYTHING. GO OFF AND ESCAPE SEE IF I CARE
Zag: Hey, this was fun, maybe we could hang ou-
Than: WHOOPS MY EDGE-O-METER IS GOIN OFF THE CHARTS GOTTA GO KILL SOME MORE STUFF
Yeehaw
MOOD
We stan Than
we sthan

Can anyone tell me what is the last artifact in the codes?
points at my last message


wait do you mean the onions?
yeah they didn't have one before.
so i need to get em again?
yes
oof
how do you get them again?
i haven't gotten them in such a long time
it was failing something
fail a perfect clear challenge in erebus, through the heat gates
can you elaborate?
.....i mean i don't know how
It's just i have no clue what Erebus is
put heat into pact. go to heat gate, big burny hole in floor. go inside. get hit. collect onion.
or a heta gate
heat*
ooooooooooooh
so that's what they are
but wait
wasn't there another way
no
of getting the onion?
not any more
i am sure that i have gotten it another way tho
'not any more'
cuz i have never gone through those
perfect clear challenges used to pop up randomly
but now they don't, which i told you
Is there any way to reach the wine cellar next to the lounge? yes or no
i mean you can dash behind the counter to check out the shiny dot and get a line from the storyteller but no, you cannot get in
I always look for something up on the edges, something to dash to, use
First clear with Gun! I thought I wouldn't make it because I got 4 wave heads in the last round,,,,
Congrats!
It's really fun to use with the dio boon
pleas
sord....
Than will have Zagreus' heart in his hands, it's fine
His actual, bleeding heart, though. That's the only way Than is giving up his scythe 
PPFPPTPTTPF
WHY IS APHRODITE FOLLOWED BY ARTEMIS
OH IRONY
(Followers of Artemis are actually known to almost reject Aphrodite entirely, shutting themselves from any romantic relationships)
(This puts Aphrodite and Artemis on bad terms with each other)
Is there a list of all the Duos?
they’re not all in one place afaik but the god pages on the wiki list their duo boons
Thanks
found it
nyx just told dusa not to talk to zag damn nyx i trusted you 
ppl who were watching me stream: bear with me a moment computer died
The Kam adventures continue!
gg
It was fun! Thanks for the stream!
thats all! It was more fun n chill than i thought, thanks everyone who watched 
yea it was v nice to watch and now im inspired to do a stream myself
yessss!!! live ur streams dreams
aaaaah i didnt realise u had to select video saving i wanted to watch my run.....aw well, next time :3
not sure if they’re still on spoilerwatch but do you need to beat the hydra for the two other furies and thanatos to show up?
i don't think so
if that’s the case i’m just sooo unlucky when it comes to getting them to spawn LOL
You may not be far enough into the game
Thanatos takes about 23 runs at minimum to show up, I think we decided
and alecto and tisiphone probably rely on you having beaten meg a certain number of times
that definitely makes sense, i’ve only beaten meg a handful of times
thanatos love is at all hours of the day
true!
We stanatos thanatos
it's always love thanatos o clock
well I don't like thanatos!!!
why :(
I thought the shield heat sink was easy points but regardless of that and/or armor he just blasts 'em
by shield I mean the pact resist instance of damage
Death Insurance
thank you
I haven't gotten a win against thanatos since the first time I met him in tartarus
Out of curiosity, what weapon(s) do you normally run? And are you always playing on some level of
?
honestly I run whatever has dark thirst on it because I find it keeps it interesting
Fair enough
the heat level varies, though
In general, it's hard to win vs Than if you don't have high DPS and/or AoE capability
But there are some strats you can employ
Baiting spawns outside of Than's death AoE range is one
yeah, but it's kind of a win - win in the end
Actively targeting enemies that either he isn't targeting, or else ones that he is but are close to death already
even if you don't do anything you get the room reward
True
I was most frustrated by armored skullcrushers, but I think that was before the most recent patch
but, again, at worst, you get the room reward for free, and at best, you get a centaur heart too
At worst you die, but that can be said of any room 
if only we had a protagonist that was used to dying
ha!
And I also have to finish my intentional throwing of Erebus rooms to get my Codex back to (almost) 100%
15 more failed attempts 
It's painful
What, there's more after the 5 onions?
is there any amount of dialogue you can trigger with the sisters? I think it's just a collection of challenges and responses currently, because they're not allowed in the house, right?
sorry I just got Al again and am feeling bitter
As far as I know, yeah
Can't gift the other two Furies 
It pains me
I feel like Charon and Tissy must get along famously with their verbosity
honestly, Tis speaks to me
Yes, she does.
she knows what she wants and gets to it
I just realized that the final boss can be Cerberus. Im gonna cry if i will need to kill him even if not forever
oh no
i doubt it'd be cerb, i'm pretty sure hades mentioned at some point that the land is inescapable, and that he knows it from experience, so it may turn out that there is some ancient power keeping them all in the underworld
hades didn't get to rule the land of the dead by choice, after all
i think that fighting a titan would be neat
persephone for final boss 
tfw this is all bae has to say https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/366647747949887500/558994504972107776/unknown.png
😭 yeah when you clear all his dialogue...tragic
screams
i beat hydra,, with heat on,,,, with only 5 boons im

I COMPLETED THANS CODEX ENTRY TOO
i have.. no reason to talk to him any more....
eyy gj!!
ty!
So, Meg told me that it was not my own strength that allowed me to defeat her, but the strength of Nyx's mirror. So I've been playing with no mirror bonuses for a while. I beat her, and she appeared in the house, but there was no acknowledgement in her dialogue.
shes too proud to admit it
That's a good way to think about it, thanks
Hades will probs be the official last boss, kinda want boons from him though, dunno how that would make any sense tho
maybe persephone is the last boss? or an unlockable boon-giver
m.......mom
I wonder if Zag can bless himself, that could be cool
like the gods found out they were deceived, now you have to carry on by your own power or something
all the olympians become secret super-bosses
supergiant final bosses through the years
-rescuing a nerd
-beating up a nerd
-playing relationship counselor for an old goat man
-your mom
it would really, really suck to suddenly get stripped of all the powers you've been building up over the course of the run
LMAO
and, like, not in a good way
yeah, they have the shoulders of giants thing
are the giants ........ perhaps, super
not in a "ooh what an interesting twist" way, in more of a "ugh, but i was enjoying being super powerful and now i'm just back to being A Dude" way
I feel like they could stripl away some of it, when you pick a god over the other thingie
yeah the zag boons would have to be pretty strong to justify it
Make your own custom pantheon by stealing the other gods boons? :p
why is than so american
he sounds.... distinctly not even trying to do the fake brit midatlantic accent
hypnos: wow i can't believe we're the only two people who talk normal in this house
hypnos probly spoke more like nyx originally but mimicked his cool older bro
They've said in an AMA that the Chthonic gods all have American-esque accents, and the Olympians have Fantasy British accents
I sometimes wonder how Nyx got in contact with the Olympians, and wonder if it's similar to those dial-in-boons the gods drop us along the way.
Can everyone do that?
Zag comes home after a long day of trying not to die, is told to go to his room.
Notices a 'boon' floating in the center of his room.
Shhhhhwaaaaaahhhhh noise plays out
Hades appears, too stubborn to get up from his desk so he had to phone in to give Zag some more antagonizing.
"Honestly Zag, are those clothes piled in the corner? I think one would start with keeping an orderly room before trying to tackle leaving the underworld."
Boon menu appears
Onion.
- Gives you an onion.
That's it that's the interaction.
Yeah, which is why Zags was a bit of an oddball
Anyway, given that its Nyx
I imagine she just manifested close to them
Anywhere the light doesn't touch, that kind of thing? In a shadowy patch of some tall building?
Also I imagine gods can just effectively call each other
Nah, just at night
She is the Night
There's that line in the flashback, about Hades having papers from the Olympians requesting his summons that he's ignored.
Though Than can just poof where he pleases, so maybe it's just a Zagreus-demigod thing.
to clarify, the flashback line is simply about correspondence with the olympians, not summons
There is not much of any import there. Ledgers and administrative paperwork. Correspondence from Olympus which he had ignored.
Yeah. I meant to point out that communication was less of a boon-thing, and more of a 'oh, they write letters, too'
I still like the idea of Nyx manifesting in shady corners to give gentle words of wisdom
You just go out at night and bump into Nyx
Guyss, what did Magerra take from Zag's room?
I wasn't expecting her to be there and was taken by suprise
Her stuff
Its basically just solid confirmation that they were an item at one point
https://imgur.com/a/zz3C2ii
Has anyone checked the writing on the back and figured it all out?
It clearly means something. On the top, row on the right half you can see "Zeus and Poseidon"
I've noticed the text before
together with his brothers zeus and poseidon and his sister hera
maybe it's a myth they put back there
it's about the defeat of the titans
yeah thats what i would guess
i'd love to see demeter as a olympian, if only for the dynamic of ||grandma and grandson-she-doesn't-know-is-her-grandson||
^
I would honestly be really disappointed if she never makes it in
I'd rather see her than Hera
I feel like it might even be appropriate for Hera to not involve herself whatsoever, given that Zeus is invested
I think Hermes could lead to some really awesome movement speed boons
i want to go fast
I can just imagine Hermes wrath hehe
z o o m
f a s t
Let hermes and hypnos meet i ask for very little
N Y O O M
It's only available from exiting an Erebus room
s h o o m
Has anyone actually seen Thanatos? I've been doing a couple runs to get a feel for the new update, and I've seen the other Furies but not Thanatos
yea a few times actually
I saw him twice since the new update but then after the patch that increases his appearance frequency I haven’t seen him even once
Where do you find him?
he just pops up randomly when you enter an encounter chamber
O ok. Guess it's back to the grind for me then
good luck
Thanks!
Ok I love Chaos and giving him Ambrosia till max heart rank was totally worth it.
Now for the rest of the gods
I love Chaos, they're great
Right they/them how could I forget
They're awesome and really sweet when you get that final heart
Still really trippy to look at tho
The visual effects and the audio processing are top notch 
Yuup
Is it possible to encounter Thanatos twice in a single run ?
Not as far as I know
It is, and it used to crash the game
It softlocked the second confrontation because, since he was an NPC, you could only talk to him once per run. You could not leave. I speak from experience.
i don't think it's possible to see him twice, if it was at some point then not any more
MaxAppearancesThisRun = 1,
i mean it also makes sense for him not to show up more than once
don't mind me just passing through again
"Forgot my keys, my bad"
can someone tell me whats the other new keepsake, i got thana's
i see nobody in the codex i could gift to yet
There was only one new keepsake for this update
There is a new codex entry, for the onion
idk i would have to start up to be sure but i dont think i have the onion if its a keepsake
is it from hades?
hades doesn't give one
It's an item
^
wait if the wiki wasnt updated in the past few hours i should have all of the keepsakes on there
lemme look at the page
it looks like i didnt gift dionysus
but idk in the game it showed me a have gifted him
also should i write in tech support for the 5th weapon not appearing?
i have an old save
5th weapon doesn't appear unless you've hit specific requirements
i mean there is a random dude on twitch who got it to appear, he was at the "zagreus gets to know his mother" cutscene
i just beat hydra for the 3rd time
just now
Nice!
The 5th weapon appears after you have all 4 other weapons. It's called the Adamant Rail, and is in my opinion very good
also it requires 8 keys to unlock
yea i saw that on that guy's stream
@rapid zinc This Weapon is like a big gun?
I didn't have
Know about the requirements
It just showed on the hall
I never used it
I'll give a try
@errant musk I saw your post about Scourge of the Furies's time signature! Listening to it, I believe the first section is either 4/4 or 2/2, and the second section is alternating bars of 5/8 and 6/8
I agree, it's a limping meter of some sort, which is great!! i've been waiting for some of those balkan dance time signatures to show up in the soundtrack, lol
sky dance with electric guitars
These ones are easy. Now try and understand the bit in the later stage of the melody.
@visual laurel
Balkan makes sense, since Greece is close by.
Yeah, I know, haha. I had been talking when the game came out about how I hoped Darren would take some insp from the region
I don't really know regional music that well, so this is more of a surprise to me than to some other people.
According to the March Road-Map, the 8th Olympian will be added at some point in the future. What is the overall consensus on who it would be? There are 12 Olympians in the game, 7 of which are already Boons and the eight is Hades. So we have 4 left: Hera (Zeus's Wife, goddess of Marriage, Children) Demeter (Lover of Zeus and Poseidon, mother of Persephone, goddess of Fertility, Agriculture, Nature and Seasons), Apollo (Son of Zeus, Artemis twin, god of light, poetry, arts, music, healing) and Hermes (Messenger of Gods, god of travel, commerce, thieves and games).
Personally, besides Hera I think all the other 3 could have very interesting and unique boons. Demeter is especially interesting due to the connection with Perspephone. Hermes could have the boons focused on Dash and there are many ways Apollo could be designed.
Hades isn't an Olympian because he doesn't live on Olympus, he's a Cthonic god. The 12th Olympian is Hephaestus, god of fire (i think he was cast out in one myth, but returned to olympus in another)
I personally want Demeter simply for the dynamic between her and Zaggyboi
I don't think Hermes would be focused on dash because every Olympian has a dash boon, he'd probably have something to do with movement speed. Maybe he could take on an elemental twist as an air god (though i don't know what mechanical role that would play)
gotta think out there
god of travellers, boons that affect room choices or your literal traversal through the world
I'm thinking apollo's next, gotta have both him and artemis
IDK what they'd do for him though, something related to sun/light probably
He gives you a lamp
you sparkle and blind enemies
You make enemies sparkle.
The more sparkles there are on screen, the higher the reward will be.
Both you and your enemies sparkle. All of the particle effects slow down the game, and therefore allow you to play the game in slow motion
Apollo just gives you bad fps 😄
I need Apollo for that good good sibling interaction
I need Demeter for the L O R E
Though something tells me her presence in the game will be more like Hades
hera as a boss when
I’m getting sick of hydra every time so just stick her in Asphodel
demeter just gives grandma candy
imagine opening up a zeus boon and hera is just staring at you
maybe hermes just gives speedrun advice
hermes changes ur timer to make u appear faster :p
Don't Forget about Hestia. One of the elder gods. She sometimes resides on Olympus as well. Making her the 13th Olympian.
apollo gives zagreus boy tips to hit on achilles
hestia would be fun because of the Glorious Glock you can get
Achilles said Hestia used the Adamant Rail.
yeah the Glorious Glock
storyteller: come on, please, i love alliteration
Revolver Hestia
Gotta protect the hearth somehow
Authorized to protect the hearth with lethal force
Bruce Willis is Hestia in
Die Hearth
I’m betting on Demeter, because of Persephone’s inclusion
which brings up the question: does demeter know where persephone is?
cause she ain’t in hell and i don’t think she’s on olympus either
I don’t think Demeter will give you boons actually, I think she’ll be more of a story character
she better give me a good trinket >:v
Maybe something like a small bonus to room rewards because of the whole harvest thing, if she doesn’t end up giving boons
maybe she figures out zag’s true intentions and tries to help him there
I just haven’t seen enough of her yet but does Tisiphone ever say anything other than murderer?
She says Murder, too
also she has a cute laugh
My waifu
hey does anyone have a screencap of alecto saying "I've always wanted to kill a god"
@onyx spoke
thanks so much
Hero

meg is so hard to have conversations with
on the rare occasions when i fight her, when i get back to the house she's talking with someone else
please.....please let me fill up my codex and also give you presents because i love you....
👆
for some reason Megaira was always my favourite Erinys ever since I started researching them
Here's my character design analysis
Meg is blue bc she's chill
Alecto is red bc she's angry
Tisiphone is green because it looks nice on her
But she's chill the rest of the time
tisiphone is green bc shes working to stop climate change
(tisiphone voice) mmmm...mmmmmore renewable energies
Corpses are renewable fuel for the underworld.
Okay. Remember us figuring out the signature of the Scourge of the Furies?
So, the final part almost before the repeat has a very weird switcheroo of time signatures. I will shorten the description of them from, say, 6/8 to just 6, for ease. Now, that part has signatures 6-4-6-5 6-4-6-5 6-4-6-6-8-8.
unrelated to this, if Persephone DID escape hades, does that mean there's no more winter and fall?
maybe that’s what the war’s about
thats a p sweet way to live tbh
Is there a thread or channel that is just screenshots of the run info screen right after killing the hydra? Or any interest in such a thing
If you want to share your completed run stats, those are generally posted in #h1-builds-and-combat
Yeah, I was thinking more of a channel without commentary and just the images
Maybe there is a way to filter in discord for images in a channel
there is!
put that in the search


for meg's lovely voice



