#h1-story-discussion

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atomic forge
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it's.. "something"

harsh sleet
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?

atomic forge
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40/60 heat rewards

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the next is 120 heat..

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i can't even

harsh sleet
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ooh

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spoilers are ok

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u dont need to

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spoiler block it

atomic forge
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was just making sure

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does this make me good at this game tho

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i dont know i can tell if im decent because i dont know how difficult 60 heat is

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i mean it felt super challengeing

frozen jolt
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the first one is 15 heat, not 40

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it is challenging, yes

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for some its easy, for some its hard

atomic forge
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ahh right

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15

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then 60

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then 120

harsh sleet
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my friend told me she would send me a screenshot of than when she saw him

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its been like 5 hours rooCry

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deprivathan

neat crow
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I'm happy to see all this less Than three discourse in here

harsh sleet
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i dont get it am i being dumb

frozen jolt
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less than three is <3

harsh sleet
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oh im gay i dont do maths

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ty

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does anyone else agree that than is weeb rooFeels

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he watches naruto thats why hes like that

neat crow
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Than is more a DBZ guy, I think

harsh sleet
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bc his attacks are

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over

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9000

digital crag
harsh sleet
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Im holding back mentioning too much abt than to my friend

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but i love him so much its hard

atomic forge
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@harsh sleet Than consplay when?

harsh sleet
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ffbfb i would but i’m too babyface

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and also too short

atomic forge
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there's no ideal bodytpe/face type

harsh sleet
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i’m 5 ft tall than is probably 3 feet taller than me

atomic forge
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you're a fan

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i cosplayed kylo rens

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Ren*

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my hair was bright pink ...

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😛

harsh sleet
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djfjfjs

atomic forge
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why let unmatchable standards hold you down buddy

harsh sleet
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i don’t do cosplay either way tho rooFeels

atomic forge
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i dont do it often

harsh sleet
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as soon as i stab my art block i’ll draw him

atomic forge
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but i would do a Thant

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Draw him as Alecto

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Crazy like 😛

harsh sleet
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rhrhfjs

atomic forge
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is that something i dont know

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rhrhfjs?

harsh sleet
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just a keyboard smash

atomic forge
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oh funs

harsh sleet
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I’d like to personally thank supergiant games for updating hades the day i got sick and making me feel better with a pretty boy

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he’s my son and i love him

atomic forge
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i love super giant for making a game like this

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and not just another bastion/transistor thing

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wich i also wouldn't have mind

harsh sleet
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i don’t like roguelikes but !! hades changed that for me

atomic forge
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Supegiant's artstyle and aesthetic is good

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wanna go off topic and talk about roguelieks

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i have some pointers you might wanna try

harsh sleet
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it just hit me that one day i’m gonna run out of thanatos conversations...... what am i gonna do

visual laurel
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like me, you're going to live vicariously through other people's reactions to the thanatos convos

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:^)

harsh sleet
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oh god

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honestly i’m scared that i’ve already gotten it all

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but i haven’t maxed his hearts yet so

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im holding out hope

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i got his audience with hades but i didn’t understand what was going on

visual laurel
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thanatos strikes me as The Good One that hades uses as an example to berate hypnos and zag

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idk if you saw the hypnos convo about that yet

harsh sleet
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“dad hypnos spent too long on the xbox it’s my turn to play fortnite”

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that’s the kinda kid thanatos was

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i haven’t but now i’m concerned

visual laurel
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🤐

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anyways

harsh sleet
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he’s a good boy he doesn’t mean for that to happen

visual laurel
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hades clearly uhh trusts thanatos in a way he doesn't trust hypnos or zag, which means thanatos can get away with more but also is in more danger if hades does find out he's helping zag out

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thanatos was straight-up lying to cover for the fact that he's occasionally taking time out of his work to help you

mossy spear
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i feel like hades would be VERY angry

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especially since Hades seems to respect thanatos

visual laurel
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yeah for sure

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and it stresses than out but not enough to make him stop

harsh sleet
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the tiny shipper part of myself is yeeting

mossy spear
harsh sleet
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i love than what a GOOD BOY

mossy spear
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now to get the other weapons outa the way too

visual laurel
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👏

mossy spear
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shield and spear thus far

harsh sleet
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am still too scared to use heat

mossy spear
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15 heat is easy

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60 heat gets a bit tougher

atomic forge
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Pressurepoint Squad!

mossy spear
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but after you play with 60 heat and then play without heat

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it's like dbz gravity trianing syndrome

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you basically win any hydra fight with any build

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provided you don' t mess up

atomic forge
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i know right

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i think it's good

mossy spear
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but 120 seems far off lol, i use cerberus' trinket and no healing reduction because i'm too impatient / bad to not get hit

atomic forge
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because then you wont need Death Insurance as much

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i make mistakes

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so im taking skull earing

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so i do atleast some damage back

mossy spear
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i feel the skull earring is a trap honestly

atomic forge
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right now im upping Thant's Trinket

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that has some good scaling on it

mossy spear
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like you get to deal more damage but you also need to be low hp

atomic forge
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skull earing is good for early heat

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bad for late heat

mossy spear
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cerberus is good for 60 heat if you don't have healing reduction

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start off with 160 hp

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heal for tons

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death defiance higher health start

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I swear, I want Patrocles to be (the/a) boss in Elyisum and have it be some drama between you, Achilles and Patrocles

atomic forge
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so

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when i s that next biome coming then

mossy spear
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it'd be a fun contrast, Achilles training you and wanting you to get out, and Patrocles barring your way

atomic forge
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is it this update

mossy spear
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next update

atomic forge
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or the next?

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aww

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54 more days >.>

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can we make a wager

mossy spear
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it's Elysium

atomic forge
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that i can get 120 heat faster then supergiant releases the 3rd biome

mossy spear
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lol

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probably

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if you play with 60 and can win that consistently, like normal runs

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and gradually increase the difficulty

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then sure

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i dunno about starting at 120 right from the start

atomic forge
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nah

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im gonna go for 120

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and trial and error myself

mossy spear
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it feels very punishing and kinda unfun to me lol

atomic forge
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hence the name

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pact of PUNishment

mossy spear
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no pun intended

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i mean dying isn't so bad when you got an actual goal

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by that i mean new interactions in the House

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I think I've exhausted the dialogue/interactions already

atomic forge
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993 hades chats to go

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so i've got some time

mossy spear
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887 here

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saw a streamer with like 500 more to go

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imma be so mad if I manage to finish up the hades conversations and there's gonna be a placeholder or something

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i mean, it's early access so it'd be /acceptable/, i'd just be a bit miffed about it

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i'm constantly trading my excess HEAT for keys, , ambrosia or darkness

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and buying more darkness with all the rest

atomic forge
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idk

mossy spear
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19212 darkness thus far

atomic forge
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probably dont expect to much

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why so much darkness

neat crow
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I think I have a similar amount of Darkness

mossy spear
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149 escape attempts

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i want more darkness to buy more authority

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rerolls mang

atomic forge
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you dont really need rerolls

mossy spear
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you don't NEED them

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but they're fun

atomic forge
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are they

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they are so pricy

neat crow
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They're just a Darkness sink, that's the point

atomic forge
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i rather have more chance on a epic/legendary then have a reroll option

mossy spear
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ok Fan, what am i supposed to do with all the HEAT over 180?

neat crow
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It's something you invest in once you already have everything else maxed

mossy spear
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I've already maxed that out lol

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fated authority is the only thing you can't max out i think, i think every upgrade just becomes 1000 more expensive ad infinitum

neat crow
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It does max out at 10

rapid zinc
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It maxes out at 165k darkness total

mossy spear
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it does?

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i see

rapid zinc
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1k, 2k, 3k, 4k, 5k, 10k, 20k, 30k, 40k, 50k

atomic forge
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holy hell people actually didnt downvote my idea to oblivion for once

mossy spear
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which idea is it? i'll downvote it

atomic forge
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the giving the spear not the same hammer upgrade as the bow one

mossy spear
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that one is already downvoted

atomic forge
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the one below it

mossy spear
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sounds good, doesn't work

atomic forge
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and you know this how

mossy spear
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i don't, it's my opinion and a meme

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basically, i can't imagine it being a thing from a daedalus hammer, it sounds like a lot of work in terms of visual representation, would you need to animate every character to be pinnable? you'd have to programm every wall-like surface to allow mobs to be pinned to?

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wouldn't it suck in asphodel with its lack of walls?

spring scaffold
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While the "pinning enemies to walls" is a fun idea, I am against replacing the current hammer upgrades. Just add more, why would you want to replace an upgrade that's similar on two completely different weapons? These upgrades don't make the weapons the same despite their similarities.

mossy spear
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what about breakable terrain?

atomic forge
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because the Exploding launcher is trash

mossy spear
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my issue with the exploding spear is the severe damage DOWNGRADE

atomic forge
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^

mossy spear
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you get backstab damage AND aoe damage with regular spear special

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vicious skewer is way better

atomic forge
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pinning enemies in walls in asphodel just launches them in the lava

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and makes the spear return , kind of like the shield does in aspho

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when it can't hit a wall

mossy spear
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so it'd have a knockback AND a pinning function?

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that'd be too strong

atomic forge
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idk about too strong

spring scaffold
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So you'd rather remove it completely than have the devs actually making it useful? Just because there is one with a similar effect on a completely different weapon?

mossy spear
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if you were gonna pin enemies to walls they'd need to be next to them

atomic forge
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knockback can be achieved with poseidon

mossy spear
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so you'd be able to combo with poseidon maybe ye

atomic forge
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there are walls in asphodel tho

mossy spear
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not in all rooms

atomic forge
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yeah

mossy spear
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some rooms have very little walls

atomic forge
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still a wall

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  • enemies can bump in one and other
mossy spear
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you wanna pin enemies together?

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that's gonna be even more of a mess to animate

atomic forge
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i havnt noticed this fix since the last time i played but it seems Asphodel is less of a barren wasteland

mossy spear
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it does? i didn't notice any change

atomic forge
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idk we had a whole Q&A about animating

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and that the animator loves to do it

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and it's not even that much , compared to what they did with the wrath powers

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that's all this update

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so more work isnt something these guys shy away from

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and we get a whole new playstyle with the spear

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so why not?

mossy spear
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most animation is just colourful lighting on the existing animations

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like the boons

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visual effects

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rather than a complete reanimation

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having a daedals hammer that so drastically requires so many more animations is not impossible of course

atomic forge
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last update had a new weapon

mossy spear
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but seems not worth?

atomic forge
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so i dont think you argument is relevant

mossy spear
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it was originally meant to be able to fire while running

atomic forge
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true

mossy spear
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but they ran into an animation issue of it looking too awkward

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just saying

atomic forge
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they also tried floating

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but you just throw the spear

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like you normally would

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but now it pins

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that's not such an animation issue

mossy spear
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they'd have to make a seperate running animation for running while shooting especially for one weapon

atomic forge
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as it is a coding issue

mossy spear
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whereas the other ones don't do that as of yet

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you'd have to code a different zagreus every time basically

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different animations and mechanics per weapon

atomic forge
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i was thinking more of coding the spear to stick to walls

mossy spear
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for the character's movement rather than just the weapon itself

atomic forge
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and walls to be stickable to

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that you dont insta destroy terrain

mossy spear
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for some reason i thought you meant bow or the rail when talking about skewering

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with the spear i can kinda see it

atomic forge
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.>

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<,<

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it's 4 am here

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i am going to bed tho

mossy spear
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4.30

atomic forge
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4:30

mossy spear
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where u from?

atomic forge
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well being the same time zone

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im guessing close to or in the netherlands?

mossy spear
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belgium, as a matter of fact

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which means we can cuss in dutch and nobody will be able to tell, we'll have free reign and the mods won't be able to stop us! maniacal laughter

atomic forge
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godverdomme

mossy spear
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duizend bommen en granaten

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but yeah imma go to sleep too probably

atomic forge
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GODMILJAAR

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sorry i couldn't resist

mossy spear
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think i'm gonna do one more spear run real quick without HEAT to try and get backstab bonus vs hydra

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i seem to recall i could do it real easy last update but i may be wrong??

atomic forge
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idk does the hydra have a back?

mossy spear
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i'll hit you in the back of the head

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see if you like it

harsh sleet
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i really want than and meg to interact

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that’d be a tense conversation and i’d die

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pretty lady with my favourite boy

atomic forge
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i mean would it

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meg isnt a god right?

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than is

harsh sleet
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so?

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i don’t think that’d change anything

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their relationships with zag would make them be tense i feel like

atomic forge
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can we romance Than!

mossy spear
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Meg is listed under Chthonic gods

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not under others of note

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she's a god

atomic forge
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she's god of the furies

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making her sisters lesser?

harsh sleet
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i see

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i wanna romance than rooFeels

atomic forge
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@harsh sleet can we please have a thanatos romance option 😮

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or is that too.. risky

harsh sleet
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no i don’t see why it would be

mossy spear
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the Erinyes (/ɪˈrɪniˌiːz/; sing. Erinys /ɪˈrɪnɪs/, /ɪˈraɪnɪs/;[1] Greek: Ἐρινύες, pl. of Ἐρινύς, Erinys),[2] also known as the Furies, were female chthonic deities of vengeance -Wikipedia

atomic forge
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becuase most people dont take kindly to that

mossy spear
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they're all goddesses of vengeance, just different flavors of vengeance

harsh sleet
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i

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what do you mean...

neat crow
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Gonna object to "most people don't take kindly to that"

harsh sleet
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yeah

atomic forge
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trust me

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there will be some people

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putting that

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as a headliner

neat crow
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Some != most

mossy spear
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why because of non-blood sibling romance, or because they're the same sex?

atomic forge
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the latter

harsh sleet
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that doesn’t help

atomic forge
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that's till like an issue

mossy spear
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you can already kinda romance achilles

atomic forge
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in most countries

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luckly not where i am from

harsh sleet
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as a lesbian.. it’d sure be nice to get more lgbt content in games

mossy spear
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also it's ancient greece

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ancient greece without homosexual relationships is like pizza without toppings

rapid zinc
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Achilles makes explicit reference to his past male lover, I'm certain that won't be an issue

atomic forge
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As a pansexual i hope so too

harsh sleet
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they’ve had lgbt content before it’s not gonna stop them

atomic forge
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i wanna romance Dusa 😮

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did they?

harsh sleet
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you kinda can

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zag asked her on a date in my playthrough and i yelled wait! no! not what i was going for zag!

mossy spear
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there's a real dirty joke to be made there @atomic forge but i'm not allowed to make it here

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i'll dm you

atomic forge
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sure

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DM me

sick grove
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I just want everyone to be happy and at peace with their prospective roles by the end of this game... ; . ;

atomic forge
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i mean i did have a drink with dua

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dusa

harsh sleet
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yeah

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that’s the date i’m referring to

mossy spear
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afaik you can "date" achilles, dusa and meg

rapid zinc
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There's also the dialogue between them
Achilles: Lad, all this generosity... I'm sorry, but my heart belongs to another, even in death.
Zagreus: Yes, I'd feared that was the case. Nevertheless, I want you to have this.

harsh sleet
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now i’m not giving her ambrosia anymore

neat crow
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I'm perfectly happy with characters progressing in the story without expectation of romance as the inevitable end-state, maybe that's just me squirtheh

harsh sleet
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pl e a se thanatos ....

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i’m a sucker for a good romance ...

atomic forge
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cerberus?

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that's probably too far.. right?

harsh sleet
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cerberus is a dog, lets not go there

rapid zinc
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Me too, Wight! But I'm a shipper at heart, and Bouldy... He calls to me

mossy spear
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i mean

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Zeus did it

atomic forge
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why bouldy

mossy spear
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but let's not go there

sick grove
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Romance The Onion onion

harsh sleet
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again let’s not go there !

atomic forge
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im wondering what my boy sisyphus looks like

harsh sleet
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romance sisyphus he deserves it

neat crow
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@sick grove That relationship is bound to end in tears

rapid zinc
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Zeus is not a good role model in literally any situation

atomic forge
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Zeus is a ponce

mossy spear
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Hades is my role model

harsh sleet
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eek

atomic forge
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mine is Dio

neat crow
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Bouldy is my role model

atomic forge
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party dude

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laid back

neat crow
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Sorry, roll model

atomic forge
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sigh..

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really

harsh sleet
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aphrodite isn’t my role model but i’d like to h*ld her hand

atomic forge
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my role model isnt from this game, it's Jodariel

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aphrodite ... oof

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i want that wall scroll

harsh sleet
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i Love hee

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her*

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both in game and out

atomic forge
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i mean

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the true aphrodite

harsh sleet
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hey don’t

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don’t do that

atomic forge
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^

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that

mossy spear
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hermes and aphrodite's son, who merged with a nymph or something

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FU-SION HAh

atomic forge
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i thought it was aphrodite her self and she got imprisoned for being that, and got saved by her husbando

mossy spear
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nope

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aphrodite 100% woman

cold canopy
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yea, going to ask you guys to move onto a new topic please

harsh sleet
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thank you ,,

atomic forge
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removed it

mossy spear
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I mean the topic is already over with

atomic forge
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yeah

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we are kinda done with this

harsh sleet
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anyway thanatos is a good boy ,,

atomic forge
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man it's hard to stay on-topic

harsh sleet
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SGG please let than pet cerb

neat crow
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Natural conversations are hard, y'all

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Ugh, that teaser video was cruel Syd

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Not with Than, but still

harsh sleet
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let me pet my dog rooREE

mossy spear
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yeah, there was a gif on the twitter where zag petted Cerberus

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i tried to do it too but i couldn't!

atomic forge
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yeah saw that too

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might not be implimented yet

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also cerberus moved

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and isnt like sitting there

harsh sleet
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i don’t think i watched the teaser tbh

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i remember predicting a new SGG game and then hades was announced

atomic forge
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right

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good night yall

harsh sleet
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gn

neat crow
harsh sleet
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THAT MAKES ME EANNA PET HIM EVEN MORE

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but i want like DA2 dog interactions

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like you walk over and someone’s petting cerb

old frost
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thatd be.. sososo good

harsh sleet
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basically i’m a simple kid i want two things

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dog and thanatos

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merge the two? i’m happy

old frost
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s-same

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Just let me Pet the dog sgg

harsh sleet
mossy spear
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https://puu.sh/D0FBv/b01c96de6b.png
So, I recalled the spear from behind the Hydra's head and it doesn't seem to apply the backstab bonus, like with the other enemies.
I seem to remember it applying in the previous patch, unless I'm wrong... I sent a bug report, anyone know whether or not backstab is supposed to apply there?
I mean, the numbskulls don't have a "back" either but it applies on them and backstab applies on the gorgon and the furies, so I don't see why it shouldn't apply on the Hydra.

limber sage
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I did a run with spear earlier and I got the backstab bonus just fine.

mossy spear
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weird

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how did you do it then?

frozen jolt
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by backstabbing, I assume

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I think this is a glitch

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so F10 it if you stab something from the back and don’t backstab it

limber sage
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I was spamming spear special like I always do and it worked just fine. Either way, what alma said.

hoary jungle
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so have people figured out how to get the duo boons yet?

stark tulip
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They just appear

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Same as usual boons but rarer

hoary jungle
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no they have to have some prerequisites

stark tulip
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Oh you’re right, didn’t realize it

visual laurel
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i posted the prereqs in gameplay

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if anyone's curious

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i'm gonna add them to the wiki

neat crow
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We don't deserve you, ven

visual laurel
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;3 don't you forget it!

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I'm not sure I have the chops to add categories for the duo boons to the boon charts themselves, but I can add the requirements for sure

rotund lagoon
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Finally beat Fury! The second area sure has a spike in difficulty. Holy crap!

neat crow
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Congrats! You're in for a good time

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No, wait, that was last update. You're in for a murdery time, I guess

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You're killing it out there, though, keep it up! friendly

harsh sleet
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the wave maker hydra heads... awful

lunar kiln
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This isnt pyre

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New hydra head got in the wrong game

snow brook
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I love the new wave heads. Makes it super easy to get a deflect off, and proc the new Duo boon from Artemis.

harsh sleet
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wave makers upset me

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so... hard...

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and they push me back when i block them rooREE

marsh prawn
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Hey so a Question

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16 attempts, Hydra’s a goner

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And I haven’t seen the other furies nor Thanatos

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That normal?

harsh sleet
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thats weird,,

marsh prawn
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16 attempts after a fresh install I mean right after the patch dropped

harsh sleet
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have u heard hades or hypnos talking about the furies/thanatos

marsh prawn
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Nope

harsh sleet
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my friend got this a few attempts before she found him

marsh prawn
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But wrath is here so 🤷🏽‍♀️

harsh sleet
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huh,,

marsh prawn
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Well I still gotta unlock most of the mirror and heat and gifts and hearts so I gotta keep playing anyway but hhuuuh

harsh sleet
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i hope u see them soon

visual laurel
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You probably just aren't progressed enough through the story to run into him yet

marsh prawn
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Orpheus just appeared since I just got the Hydra but i dont know how many attempts id need

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Ill just keep going naturally

harsh sleet
#

good luck,,

marsh prawn
#

Aye aye

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It’s so far the only roguelike i enjoy so it aint gonna be hard haha

harsh sleet
#

same!

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my head is rlly making me think of a hades hercules au

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thing is i dont like hades hades enough to make him hercules hades

honest coral
#

@marsh prawn You need 23 attempts for thanatos to appear as far as I know

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You said a fresh install right, so a new save?

marsh prawn
#

yeah

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thanks, i'll keep trying

harsh sleet
#

my room just went green

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but thanatos wasnt there

#

i

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i feel cheated

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i got the 2 heatbombers instead

marsh prawn
#

Oh just got Alecto 👌🏼

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Caught me in the Worst Run Possible but cool

harsh sleet
#

my last thanatos interaction killed me

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F

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im glad you got her tho!!!

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whoops

visual laurel
#

mood

harsh sleet
#

im very glad,,, that i gave him all my ambrosia

zenith lichen
#

The dating Sim cannot be completef

atomic forge
#

im back boys

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gonna do some more heat grinding

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and see if i can challenge myself to take on 120 heat...

harsh sleet
#

i dont know what to do now

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ive gotten all of thans dialogue

atomic forge
#

go for 120 heart

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show your thanatos boy

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the love he deserves

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^^

harsh sleet
#

i wanna draw one of the conversations w him but im Weak

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my art isnt at its peak power

rare torrent
#

I been drawing on my phone

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kinda bums me out that everything comes out bad but I guess you're supposed to practice

#

but I wanna git gud enough to draw all dat fan art

harsh sleet
#

ok big mood

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im rlly working on developing my style atm aa

rare torrent
#

i am proud

atomic forge
#

im a digital artist

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but cant for the life of me work from home 😛

harsh sleet
#

i prefer my traditional over my digital art

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this is off topic

#

gfhjdkg

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im making thanatos and zagreus in sims 4

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its goth time

ancient ocean
#

so I sure did just have a hydra fight where it spawned six heads in the second phase instead of 4

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i shouldn't have survived this

atomic forge
#

oof

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happend to me too

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on 60 heat

ancient ocean
#

oh dear

atomic forge
#

praise the rail

ancient ocean
#

this is my punishment for taking the flurry spear upgrade and a dio attack buff

atomic forge
#

and the range on that puppy

ancient ocean
#

i deserved this

atomic forge
#

.>

#

oof

ancient ocean
#

made it out with 2 health

atomic forge
#

i had 12hp left

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i had a screenshot of my first beatr

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hold on let me find it

ancient ocean
#

did you get the music bug at the same time? i'm wondering if there's a correlation

atomic forge
#

nah i did however die to alecto and got her Redblood at hypnos XD

#

there's some audio glitches

#

MVP of this run was deffinetly Clean Kill and Ares Cast

ancient ocean
#

i was gonna say

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that's a solid build

atomic forge
#

lightning strike on Rail is allways nice

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i only do solid builds

ancient ocean
#

hahaha

atomic forge
#

cant win with fun ..>

ancient ocean
#

i need to pick up rail again, haven't tried it since the update

atomic forge
#

rail feels kind of bad since the update tho

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it's slower

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i really enjoy the bow now

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and the spear

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i got my first sword win since ever

#

the update to that fixed allot too

ancient ocean
#

i've gotta try that out too!

atomic forge
#

yeah

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prober good

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proper*

ebon cradle
bleak osprey
#

i got an actual talk between than and hypnos and blobsob

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thanatos!!!! spend more time with your brother!!!

atomic forge
#

yeah got that one too

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where hypnos suggest to kill everyone at the same time

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never took hypnos for a mass murderer

harsh sleet
#

that makes me really sad

tardy tundra
#

i drew than @harsh sleet

harsh sleet
#

thanatos please spend time with your brother

bleak osprey
#

i have to wonder how the hell hypnos isn't bitter (at least outwardly) about how thanatos seems to prefer spending time with zag instead of him

atomic forge
#

@tardy tundra share?

bleak osprey
#

it's in fanworks

atomic forge
#

sick

spring scaffold
mossy spear
#

yeah LOL

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Dionysus the troll

bleak osprey
#

:3c

harsh sleet
#

was thinking abt thanatos and hypnos

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i feel so bad for hypnos rooFeels

marsh prawn
#

Please somebody love hypnos just a little

harsh sleet
#

i love him i just love his twin more

digital crag
#

twins 🅱huh

marsh prawn
#

mr thanatos please stop neglecting your brother

harsh sleet
#

im@sure he doesn’t mean to rooFeels

digital crag
#

-points to profile pic- i lov him

marsh prawn
#

Hypnos from the other side of tartarus: 🅱ruv

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ive loved him since sgg made his ingame art public

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And a friend and i spent a day wondering about he’d be

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We went from hermes to thanatos to hypnos

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Nice day best day love a sleepy get guder

fiery lotus
#

For now my Top 3 is: 1) Meg 2)Achilles 3)Dusa

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I have seen Thanatos only once, so I still need time to evaluate

harsh sleet
#

i liked than bc he was pretty and then i met him and now i’m like this

bleak osprey
#

thanatos talking "Megaera, please keep an eye on Zagreus today. He's probably going to say something dumb to the wrong person and get himself punched."
megaera talking "Sure, I'd love to see Zagreus get punched."
thanatos talking "Try again."
megaera talking "...I will stop Zagreus from getting punched."
thanatos talking "Correct."

harsh sleet
#

that sounds canon

bleak osprey
#

bold of me to assume thanatos would ever outwardly show concern for zag, anyways

shrewd arrow
#

100% ship meg and zag

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and zag and thanatos

harsh sleet
#

i dont think he would to zags face

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but to others he probably does a little

digital crag
#

absolutely nothing can go wrong with me writing a fic after hearing 5 lines from a new character

bleak osprey
#

do it jan

digital crag
#

i've learned nothing

harsh sleet
#

i wish i could write fics....

#

aaa

digital crag
#

i've learned nothing from the wips that already got jossed in 2018

shadow nebula
#

how do you find thanatos

bleak osprey
#

you do not!

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he finds you.

digital crag
#

he finds you :^)

bleak osprey
#

something something there is no escape

digital crag
#

oh i've been hatted

harsh sleet
#

You Are Already Dead.

bleak osprey
#

i'm still trying to work out exactly what gets him to start spawning, because my 'main' save is liek 150 runs deep at this point

shadow nebula
#

ive beaten the game a couple of times, i lost my save file recently so i had to do the whole thing again, orpheus still hasn't shown up

digital crag
#

*you're already dead is a perfectly normal thing to say in context

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because the enemies are ghost and ergo, already dead

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it is in no way a notable or unusual turn of phrase

#

just a perfectly normal thing to say

bleak osprey
#

orpheus shows up after 15 runs

digital crag
#

sparrow maybe you have to talk to hypnos?

marsh prawn
#

Well if it helps alecta showed up for me in my 17th-18th run

#

After beating the Hydra

shadow nebula
#

okay

harsh sleet
#

prayer circle, hope this works:

                      🕯
          🕯                    🕯
   🕯         thanatos         🕯

🕯      encounter rates       🕯

    🕯        increased       🕯
           🕯                    🕯
                       🕯
shadow nebula
#

yeah ive beaten the hydra 3 times now, currently on my 13th(?) round

marsh prawn
#

Everyone needs to talk to hypnos

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Thanatos only shows up after the other furies arrive

#

So once they get there he should appear at some point

shadow nebula
#

okie doke

#

i feel like cosmic egg should guarantee at least one gate, i just had a run where i didn't have any gates and i carried the egg the whole way through

ebon cradle
#

pickup hypnos i love you you spunky little sleepy boy

harsh sleet
#

hypnos is like

#

middle child syndrome

#

yknow

digital crag
#

he's the personification of a middle child

harsh sleet
#

yeah

ebon cradle
#

the real escape from underworld is making it a better place

spring scaffold
#

It's Chaos, Demon. You can't control Chaos. You can attempt to tame it with delicious eggs, but you can't control it.

shadow nebula
#

fair point

#

what are the duos people got so far? the only one i found was aphro and ares

#

curse reprocs on weak targets

marsh prawn
#

Artemis-Athena

#

Which was so good

shadow nebula
#

is it on the wiki

marsh prawn
#

Hypnos deserves love for keeping things light I love him

bleak osprey
#

dionysus-zeus: zappy damage to things in festive fog

#

yeah they're on the wiki, check the boons page

shadow nebula
#

deadly reversal seems awesome

lunar kiln
#

thats because it is

round raptor
#

Athena/Artemis is insane. Figures that the two best goddesses (in every respect) would be amazing together.

ebon cradle
#

wlw power

mossy spear
#

@atomic forge

#

also wow i just returned to an absolutely empty house

#

only Hades, Meg and Thanatos

#

oh and lovely Dusa

harsh sleet
#

than rooLove wrow

bleak osprey
harsh sleet
#

not to repeat myself but: i really do love him

bleak osprey
#

i cannot believe jen zee looked into my soul and made exactly the edgy white-haired anime boy of my dreams

#

he has black nail polish

mossy spear
#

lol

harsh sleet
#

zag: do you ever wanna talk about your feelings, meg?
than: i do
zag: i know
than: im sad
zag: i know, than

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jen zee fed us so good

bleak osprey
#

all i ever wanted was for thanatos to have an undercut and she delivered and i am so happy.

#

it just feels Right

#

i'm a big fan of the undercut+hood combo

harsh sleet
#

in the words of ty: backstreets back alright

bleak osprey
#

would anyone like some than gifs btw

harsh sleet
#

m e

#

please...

#

feed me sparrow

bleak osprey
#

lemme get these frames sorted out then

marsh prawn
#

beat alecto this run

#

with the worst build it was bad run TM

#

got very lucky

fiery lotus
#

For now I've always beaten all the furies (no heat). I'm afraid of what will happen when I start turning up that heat. I'm truly scared

#

Btw, how much heat is needed for the last statue?

bleak osprey
#

120

kind raft
#

does anyone else think that the game has a tendency to feel a bit too crowded?

#

like it gets really difficult to know where your character is or whats going on at any given time

#

especially during the hydra fight

round raptor
#

It does get too hectic at times, especially when multiple projectiles occupy the screen. The recent addition of ranged enemy types isn't kind to lower-end PC setups.

fiery lotus
#

Against the finale phase of the hydra I simply dash perpetually

#

And hope for the best

spring scaffold
#

It gets hectic, but I've never lost track of where Zag is. Gotta stay focused shadefear

fiery lotus
#

Stay focused, or stay dead

marsh prawn
#

ye

#

with how the dash focus literally

bleak osprey
harsh sleet
#

so smooth..

#

thank u so much

bleak osprey
#

it's a little crisper if you click on it

harsh sleet
#

just how i like my thanatos

#

nice and Crisp

bleak osprey
#

i kinda want to slow down that sick scythe spin...

#

thanatos just casually spinning a scythe as big as he is around his hand like it's nbd

round raptor
#

I've been so focussed on kicking the crap out of enemies as fast as I can that I hadn't even noticed he had other animations besides just floating there...

digital crag
#

he's so anime

bleak osprey
#

he has a second attacking animation

#

that one's "ThanatosAttack", the other is "ThanatosAttackHold" and i think it's the one he uses for his aoe?

#

the fun part of making gifs from rips like this is filtering through all, say, 640 frames and seeing which handful i need for the particular angle i wanna do

digital crag
#

whaa how many angles do they render

#

more than 8?

bleak osprey
#

nah, just the 8

#

there's 70 frames in that gif i posted

digital crag
#

i'm going to dig out my black nail polish

round raptor
#

I won't lie, it bothers me that Alecto and Tisiphone's 3D models are just recolours of Meg's, down to Alecto's tunic being reversed when compared to her art and Tisiphone's wing being on the wrong side.

marsh prawn
#

still early access, some time to make them new models

spring scaffold
#

Hypnos' model is still just a hooded figure. I really want to see him in 3D glory.

#

So yeah, just give it time, at least they're recognizable.

round raptor
#

Yeah, I'm not complaining or anything. We still have the placeholder art for some pretty important characters and everything. I guess I expected that putting the wing on the model's left side wouldn't be so hard as to require additional updates.

bleak osprey
#

they'd have to re-render every single animation tisiphone/alecto uses from all 8 angles

#

and, y'know, make the model to begin with

mossy spear
#

Soooo I... got the artemis legendary with adamant rail

harsh sleet
#

give than a scythe

mossy spear
#

and I gotta say, it's ridiculous

harsh sleet
#

NOT THAN

#

ZAG

#

fgdjkbmgdf darn it

digital crag
#

spinny spin spin

#

this is entirely unnessesary

harsh sleet
#

hes so extra

#

ty for showing these

bleak osprey
#

np!

mossy spear
#

Sooooo

#

I just had an adamant rail run, with the upgrade to shoot more accurately and more ammo

#

and Artemis legedary, which spawns an extra homing projectile per attack, cast and special you do

#

so every time i empty my clip my screen is flooded with 18 artemis projectiles

gritty dagger
#

oh

#

oh my

mossy spear
#

just beat hydra with it too lol

#

on 60 heat

gritty dagger
#

oh god please don't tell me you had zeus attack with it as well

mossy spear
#

now the sword and then i'll have it on all weapons

gritty dagger
#

is your pc ok?

mossy spear
#

nah, artemis attack

#

critts for days

#

it lagged quite a lot actually

#

and my pc is pretty tough

atomic forge
#

wow

mossy spear
#

going for 60 heat sword now

limpid grotto
#

With the amount of times Alecto calls Zagreus redblood

#

I feel like greg has seen both the zagreus/karkat homestuck memes AND done at least some cursory reading on the webcomic itself

frozen jolt
#

i told myself i wasnt going to be the one to bring up homestuck and i wondered how long it will take fdjkghkdjshk

harsh sleet
#

please god no

#

i hope to god he hasnt seen

cold canopy
#

oh my GOD no

#

cursed

bleak osprey
#

did somebody say cursed symbol_ares

sick grove
#

but what if Hades was homsetuck all along 🤔

#

But thats just a Game Theory

limpid grotto
#

the next ask supergiant can't come soon enough

harsh sleet
#

guys pl e a se

amber canyon
#

I mean

#

Zag literally is homestuck

mossy spear
#

hahaha

harsh sleet
#

im gonna go feral

#

me, whenever yall say stuff like this: GO CRAZY AAAAAAA GO STUPID AAAAAAAA

mossy spear
#

man the sword is trash

#

so hard on 60 heat lol

#

.... srsly?

sick grove
#

stab-stab-q-stab-stab-q-stab-stab-q-stab-stab-etc
there's a rhythm

mossy spear
#

yeah and it sucks when your enemies are faster, deal more damage and have more hp lol

#

i've also had really bad runs with bad boons and lots of elite and armore enemies early on for no reason lol

#

especially the louts

#

the wretched louts are so annoying xD

atomic forge
#

oof had a good bow run

#

triple shot + artemis athena

#

i and a chaos epic boon

#

i did 300 damage per arrow >.>

mossy spear
#

yeah well the sword and its daedalus upgrades are literally the worst

atomic forge
#

nah

#

the 30% more AoE on your AoE + poseidon

#

is really insane

mossy spear
#

meh very circumstantial though

atomic forge
#

it got me my first sword win

#

so im a Fan

sick grove
#

empowered nova is amazing. i'd go so far as to say its overpowered, harkening back to old artemis-dash. what it lacks in range it makes up for in offense, at least as-of new patch.

atomic forge
#

my fastest clear is with the spear

#

16 minutes

#

a full run with a spear

mossy spear
#

i spend a lot of time breaking everything in asphodel

#

cuz pillars and stuff have money

#

i just can't figur out what their tell is

#

tartarus is simple, the coloured vases give money

#

but asphodel, i can't tell the difference between a pillar that gives coins and doesn't

neat crow
#

This is a great opportunity to share my knowledge about Asphodel pillars

#

All pillars have the potential to give money. Typically between 3 and 5 pillars will drop obol before they all stop. They can also be caused to stop their drops before the number cap if you take too much damage or too many waves have elapsed (not sure on the exact requirements for this mechanic)

#

So my advice is to try and break pillars before the actual combat starts

#

If one doesn't drop obol when fully broken, then none of them will

mossy spear
#

LOL but why

#

that's so complicated

stoic wave
#

its an interesting mechanic, it rewards you if you can do it while in combat or squeeze it in before

bleak osprey
#

i'm pretty sure the pillars won't drop money if combat has ended

neat crow
#

It might also be related to the overall amount of obol earned in a level, again, not confirmed from experimentation

#

Pillars will drop after combat has ended

bleak osprey
#

oh

mossy spear
#

ye i know for a fact they will

neat crow
#

Easiest way to prove this is finished the Megagorgon fight and then break the pillars

#

They will pretty much always drop

stoic wave
#

i havent had any drop after combat aswell afaik

neat crow
#

As I'm writing all this out, I think it might just be a total obol per encounter limit

mossy spear
#

so boons are carrying my current run i think, i have athena special, artemis athene special duo, deflct somethng with special, then critt with special for 380 aoe damage

#

also epic Dio embrosia hp increase

neat crow
#

So maybe if you don't break the pillars first but instead earn the obol from enemy drops, then pillars won't drop anymore. I'll have to play with this

atomic forge
#

what weapon?

mossy spear
#

sword

onyx spoke
#

I'm late but I want to see those homestuck memes for meme storage

mossy spear
#

418 aoe damage after deflecting with sword special

#

cuz pomegrate

stoic wave
#

i just had a spear run with epic athena boon for special with 3 poms at the end so ~250% on special, +20% special and crit on return and 77% chaos special buff for ~700 crits with spear so around 850 per special cast xD hydra heads were 2 special casts > 11 min run, it felt pretty op

bleak osprey
stoic wave
#

oh sry 😄

harsh sleet
#

[pats this room gently] this is where i cry about my favourite boy neglecting his brother

mossy spear
#

critical effects do 150% more damage i just got

#

yikes

#

imma check how much dmg the critt does now

#

816

drifting citrus
#

had a bow build today, which was mostly a zeus build (special + bigger thunder area + wrath gain + legendary) and aphrodite's wrath

mossy spear
#

aaaand done

#

once again: this win is purely cuz of the OP artemis and athena boons, not the sword! the sword still sucks! 😛

harsh sleet
#

pressure ppoooints

mossy spear
#

that fight took me like 1min 16 seconds

drifting citrus
#

the gameplay basically consisted of using point-blank special, which racked up enough damage to build wrath, which kept the enemies idle, which then i could point-blank special again

harsh sleet
#

its such a good boon

mossy spear
#

lol no

#

deadly reversal and clean kill

#

with the athena deflect on special

#

basically hydra shoots me

#

i deflect

#

i special twice with crit

#

two heads die

harsh sleet
#

i dont use my special GWqlabsHyperSweats

#

i only use attack and dash and really thats probably why i suck

mossy spear
#

spear special with vicious skewer, clean kill, athena special and deadly reversal

#

with chaos special damage increase

#

that's amaaaazing

#

with those boons u can basically deal like over 1K damage with the back attack

#

when you recall the spear

harsh sleet
#

ach i also dont use spear

#

maybe i should make an effort to git gud

#

but also im just here for pretty characters

digital crag
#

i'm here for the dog

mossy spear
#

I'm just here for the story but i got ... decent? what's 60 heat on very weapon, is that already considered "gud" or do i need 120 to be considered gud?

harsh sleet
#

to me

#

yeah thats good

#

and yeah me too jan

drifting citrus
#

i gave up at 32 so

digital crag
#

120 is skelly-gud

harsh sleet
#

came for dog, stayed for pretty characters

rustic pewter
#

you can only get money from breaking stage objects (except gold pots) only before/during combat. You can break about 8-9 (which is a lot)in my experience before that room stops giving gold for breaking structures.

mossy spear
#

why does alecto call you a redblood, when killing her gives the same redblooded death animation as Zagreus anyway?

spring scaffold
#

Because that's not blood, that's Fury juice.

drifting citrus
#

petition for thanatos to treat hypnos better

mossy spear
#

thanatos treats hypnos well

#

all things considering

drifting citrus
#

b e t t e r

digital crag
#

fury juice...............

harsh sleet
#

hmmm khal

#

ur wrong

ebon cradle
#

if you die on than level

#

he appears on death screen and says "were heading home"

rare torrent
#

Tell them I'm COOOOMING HOOOME

mossy spear
#

rip xD

#

wave got me

honest coral
#

Oh damn, 120 heat :/

pine zealot
#

oh F they gave the bone hydra those sweeping wave attacks now

zenith flume
#

this is getting pretty tasty rn man

pine zealot
#

oooh

#

what's the chaos boon gonna turn into?

zenith flume
#

more specialshadesmile

atomic forge
#

the 3 bounce is pretty bad to

#

because of the lack of recall crit

zenith flume
#

oh multi skewer is bad?

spring scaffold
#

You don't seem to understand what's bad and what's not. Easiest run I've done this update was Multi Skewer and level 6 Aphrodite special. Even wrecked Than with it, with twice as many enemies killed.

zenith flume
#

thought it would be pretty good by going crit

#

i was hitting 300+ and just threw it and let aimbot bounces clear the room lmao

amber canyon
#

The bouncy spear suffers from the lack of return damage

#

And since you try to line up shots anyway, its bounce is not that impactful

#

Its still a fine upgrade, but outclassed by vicious Skewer

spring scaffold
zenith flume
#

oof thats nasty

gray ruin
#

Is there a way to access the victory screen stat page without going to the hydra again?

zenith flume
#

how much were you hitting @spring scaffold

spring scaffold
#

Not that much, since it was only a 156% increase. But being able to just spam throw without aiming and hit several enemies, including bloodless spawners against the Hydra? No skill needed.

zenith flume
#

true

#

ty anyway

neat crow
#

@gray ruin Not at the moment, no

gray ruin
#

aww ok

#

I just did a super quick run but I accidently closed the page so I dunno how quick it was

#

I guess I'll know next run

gray ruin
harsh sleet
#

and now i have my hourly pray that than will return in the next run

#

also am trying to play with controller and WEW im not used to this

bleak osprey
#

it may be helpful to point out, thanatos can't actually appear in consecutive runs

harsh sleet
#

yeah,, with my luck he never would anyway

bleak osprey
#

if i'm reading this right anyways

harsh sleet
#

im just waiting for him

#

i just-

#

ok funny bug? time?

#

leggy

neat crow
#

Oh, yeah, bug

#

Definitely report any mislayered textures

harsh sleet
#

would me alt-tabbing out have anything to do w it

neat crow
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It shouldn't

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And even if it does, that's still bugged behaviour

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You could include that in your bug report if you think it might be related

drifting citrus
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hmm although it's a long way off, what kind of mechanical niche would a new olympian fill?

harsh sleet
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he just wanted to show off his leg

drifting citrus
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we have crits, knockback, dps, deflection, etc

harsh sleet
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heals GWqlabsMmSad

gray ruin
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Hahaha

neat crow
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Healing would be such a nightmare to balance

harsh sleet
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thats true

drifting citrus
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dio kinda covers that with his ambrosia boon, plus athena with her death defiance boons

neat crow
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Just look at what happened with Life Drinker

drifting citrus
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maybe zag cooks the enemies and eats them 🤔

hallow oasis
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I wonder if the furies is a Valkyrie Profile situation where they actually share one body

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Do we see them together at any point so far?

harsh sleet
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no

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the other 2 arent allowed in the house

hallow oasis
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Hah.

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Yeahhaven't gotten that dialogue yet.

digital crag
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legg

harsh sleet
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leg

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im really bad at controllers

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i suck at my lefts and rights stop telling me to press r1

neat crow
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If you play long enough, they'll stop being left and right and just become R1 et cetera, if that makes sense

harsh sleet
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yea

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for some reason it feels

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smoother when i play with controller

neat crow
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I can understand that

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Controllers feel more immersive to me

gray ruin
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I think I was doing like 600 dmg per hit

rapid zinc
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I keep telling people, but no one listens

gray ruin
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hahaha

rapid zinc
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Get the athena/artemis duo boon that makes your deflects give guaranteed crits, take deflect on either cast (for a truly stupid amount of damage when it hits) or dash (for uptime) and just go ham on them. I got my crits up to 780 once, without backstabs. With backstabs was around 1000

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And that was every attack

visual laurel
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i thought i had gotten all the new thanatos convos
i had not.
i'm not sure whether i've been blessed or cursed gkjgdf

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i thought it was a convo about me dying during the kill contest (i wanted to see what he would say if i just died gkjdfgdf) but it definitely, was not that,

digital crag
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-mutters- -cough- tsundere -cough-

rare torrent
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it's not like I wanted to help you anything

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baka

visual laurel
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say uhhh thanatos ur looking a little. greener than usual

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do i detect...jealousy,

fading brook
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friend, describing alecto and tisiphone: “one went crazy and one went stupid”

rare torrent
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D:

digital crag
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nah meg is getting too soft

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tisiphone is like, ideal fury

visual laurel
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Yeah tbh

digital crag
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what more do you need really. classy. minimalist. those murderers know what they did.

rare torrent
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Tisiphone is jus-- Wait what in the nine hells is that name?

neat crow
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Just settled in that we'll never be able to gift the other two Furies since they aren't allowed in the house notlikeblob

rare torrent
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Darreb Korn

digital crag
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......nothing 🌽

rare torrent
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DARREB KORN

digital crag
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nothing to see here folks

neat crow
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His name is Darreb Korn. His name is Darreb Korn

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His name is Darreb Korn.

rare torrent
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Bashely Banana

digital crag
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would you like some 🍿

rare torrent
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🅱ashley

digital crag
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just imagine you got some ancient greek king who committed some totally gnarly murder and is screaming his bloody head off like i didn't do it!

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and then tisiphone just leans in real close

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and the king sort of whimpers a little bit

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and she just whispers

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mmmmmurderer

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and then the king sobs and starts rocking back and forth on the floor crying yes fine i totally murdered that guy

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effective

rare torrent
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imagine you're a guy out of college and you start making music for video games and you're like "yeah this is awesome" and a few years down the line your name is Darreb Korn

digital crag
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okay but the host of that game awards show actually called him darreb

rare torrent
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lmao

neat crow
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I was going to clip it just now to share, but that portion of the VOD is muted notlikeblob

digital crag
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riiiiip

rare torrent
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completely unrelated but my bed is slanted

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like how I felt fighting Thanatos

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Well not fighting him

neat crow
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Hold up, is this #spoilers in Ashley's Twitter profile? I mean, we all expected her to be in the game at some point, but she's not in the game credits yet. Ash songs confirmed? https://imgur.com/a/utVepf1

digital crag
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spicy theories

visual laurel
neat crow
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I know for certain that her profile didn't used to say Hades

north sand
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heyred inc?

digital crag
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like, before hades was released?

neat crow
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Though I don't know when it changed

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No, after it was released it still did not say Hades

sick grove
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Isn't Ashley the voice of Persephone?

neat crow
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No

sick grove
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She has a line. Who voices Pers?

neat crow
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Kelly Moore

snow brook
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If you go into your game you can click options then credits, and it'll show you

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Ashley is under the 'Special Thanks' section.

neat crow
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Some (old) voice cast credits are also pinned in this channel

snow brook
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And under the 'Very Special Thanks' is all of us limesWow