''You wanna see Uncle Zeus, it's just me with a WHITE beard and no self control''
#h1-story-discussion
serene drift
earnest juniper
I just got that line, loved it
wooden herald
my favorite is how hades calls zeus a brat
serene drift
lol
turbid cape
Mine are whenever Poseidon calls Hades “crusty”
earnest juniper
I also really liked how Hades got condescending after he beats you a few times
turbid cape
He does it at least twice
zenith wedge
Best Pos-Hades interaction is the whole
"Look at this fish taunting me"
turbid cape
There’s also the bit with Hades and Zag at the final confrontation but there’s a fishing point in front of Hades
turbid cape
Best Pos-Hades interaction is the whole
"Look at this fish taunting me"
YES, THAT ONE
wooden herald
honestly, the olympians are mean to each other
earnest juniper
Endless entertainment
zenith wedge
honestly, the olympians are mean to each other
Truly amazing
Also zag going "just burn your cape already and get fighting"
I remember not expecting at all the closet of capes 
wooden herald
like, it's come to my realization that playing hades is like being able to play the video game version of it's always sunny in philadelphia
turbid cape
Just not quite as sardonic and mean-spirited
Closer to the video game equivalent of Seinfeld
wooden herald
yeah, persephone, dusa, and hypnos are probably some of the most wholesome things that exist in the game
and some of those children ended becoming olympians...
serene drift
hmmm true Hades stayed faitfull to Persephone
wooden herald
the olympians are basically one big "happy" family
which is kinda gross when you think about it
earnest juniper
Alright you got me there
jolly moat
tbh she also calls you a "lesser god" but granted you did slight her lol if you hear that voiceline
A lot of adaptations need to make the gods nicer and all I'd say but also you have the excuse of seeing most of them being their nicest selves to their cousin/nephew/etc
mortals are probably having a rough time because of Demeter or Ares above
also iirc I'm no scholar but I think the Medusa stuff is from Ovid's metamorphoses. A great work, and you could say there isn't even proper canon to the myths i guess, but I think Medusa's earlier origin story is being born off sea monsters as a monster herself, with not much sympathy in her heart
he sure does love war and slaughter though
he's strangely polite but I'd say if you're a mortal you probably don't like Ares very much
He champion it and encourage it so to me he's not that much better off
It's not really a matter of killing for me. Ares runs War. He runs it very well, he loves it, he enjoys things dying messily etc so I wouldn't say he's a nice god even by Olympian standards. He's still kinda chummy though lol
mystic mortar
It's not really a matter of killing for me. Ares runs War. He runs it very well,...
Ares
night abyss
Iirc One guy invented that version because he was mad at the Romana authorities of the time and used the gods as a stand in to complain about them without getting murdered. Afaik All prior versions had Medusa as always a monster
jolly moat
Ares
ah sry my bad
yeah it was Ovid, metamorphoses was basically a book detailing various odd tales of mortals angering gods and paying the price for it.
i think my favorite is arachne because spiders scare me and i hate that they were born off some weaver talking smack
wooden herald
i have this weird conspiracy theory about hades: is Hades omnipresent in the underworld?
i was thinking about this cuz when you max out the god gauge with hades's keepsake, zagreus will still call out for hades during your fight with hades. And another time, when you clear a run for the first time, hades acts like it didn't really even happen. I have a feeling it's probably because hades was just pretending as if it didn't happen, but what if this means that hades can be at both the temple styx and in the house of hades at the same time
atomic forge
[OlympusExtra] Greek lore question time! Who was Daphne? I thought I knew a fair bit about greek myth but I have no idea who he is talking about here https://prnt.sc/mQJHVhBo_VNv
Sounds like something happened to her :(
spiral lily
[OlympusExtra] Greek lore question time! Who was Daphne? I thought I knew a fair...
ok so basically
apollo was beefing with eros/cupid
So as revenge
He got the double snipe
hit apollo with a love arrow
Hit daphne with a hate/lead arrow
So apollo chased daphne who ran from him
and she eventually turned into a tree
which apollo used to fashion his laurel
atomic forge
...wow. That's tragic. Don't mess with Cupid I guess. That, or cupid is a giant prick. Not sure which is the case here. Maybe it's both
turbid cape
Must be his Dad’s side showing
atomic forge
mm yeah that seems boastful on apollos part
mystic mortar
it's appropriately rare
frosty hazel
[OlympusExtra] Greek lore question time! Who was Daphne? I thought I knew a fair...
uh bro sexually harassed her in the myth i read bc she didnt want him so she ran from him and gaea helped her get away from him bc she was a nymph by turning her into a tree
frosty hazel
which apollo used to fashion his laurel
there's also that myth tho
next root
it's appropriately rare
Tbf if this was a story told in Ancient Greece it definitely wouldn’t be
mystic mortar
Tbf if this was a story told in Ancient Greece it definitely wouldn’t be
1: it's a Supergiant Games game
2: the House is much more civilized than Greece and Olympus
atomic forge
uh bro sexually harassed her in the myth i read bc she didnt want him so she ran...
The tale of Daphne is in correspondence to the Roman god Apollo, Rome and Greece are not the same nor are their gods, rome was influenced by Greece but again not the same, Apollo in Greek mythos was Bisexual and fell for woman and men, such as the prince Hyacinths who was murdered by a jealous spirit. Roman Apollo is straight and more violent the Greek.
There are three varients of this tale as there are three varients of Medusa
Ovids tale aka the most popular was Roman which is the one you are referring to
To my knowledge
Don't quote me though I'm still studying lol
frosty hazel
oh ok thanks lol im considering studying roman/greek mythology as well
meager mica
Without spoiling the underworld out of it, how many characters are lgbt?
Seems to be a big part of the game
turbid cape
Hmmm
Off the top of my head, there’s at least five that would fall under that umbrella
There’s probably more that I’m forgetting
turbid cape
For specifics, ||Zag is bi, Zag has the option to romance Than, so that makes Than bi at least, Patroclus and Achilles are lovers, and Chaos is non-binary.
There’s debate on whether Artemis is closer to lesbian or asexual, but I don’t think there’s any hard confirmation either way?||
Am I missing anyone? I think that’s most of ‘em
final marsh
gonna be honest
if it wasnt for the hate z has for hades
he would have never been the competent god and fighter he is today
haughty grove
zag is fueled by spite for the first 10 clears
then hes just like oh ok i guess ill just do this now
final marsh
still
it was his great dislike for his father
and you know he still thoroughly enjoys killing hades
also
i dont understand sisyphus
how did he become this way
from the apparently horrible king he was
haughty grove
to a chill guy?
i think pushing a rock up a hill for eternity and realizing how much of a bad person you are kinda does that
jolly moat
yeah
Sisyphus had a long time to himself and was put to torture iirc
I do like how they didn't even try to have Tantalus because his crimes are even worse lol
also his punishment is maybe harder to depict
umbral plover
Artemis is a hinted lesbian
personally I subscribe to aroace artemis :) we need more rep lol
she can be qp with callisto or smth
also describing chaos as nonbinary irrationally rubs me the wrong way. they existed before the concept of gender, agender or genderless feels more correct imo.
lusty hedge
Better safe than sorry, but I have to admit; it is something that becomes apparent the moment you talk to Chaos for the first time, so it really is more of a minor spoiler.
royal quartz
also describing chaos as nonbinary irrationally rubs me the wrong way. they exis...
Event in the most old times of existence there was always two genders. Male/Female. But the Greeks were not against having affairs with people that are the same gender as them. So why the gods won’t be the same thing rigth ?
So chaos is Male by gender but nonbinary by choice of him self.
umbral plover
oh boy I have no idea how to respond to that. just a pile of wrong and then misgendering chaos. there were never really just two genders OR two sexes. you are clearly confusing sex and gender. chaos has neither. they are a primordial force that has existed since the dawn of time why would they have a gender or sex.
also folks outside the gender binary have existed essentially forever, as well as intersex people. in my head canon chaos created the gender binary so it could be broken
royal quartz
oh boy I have no idea how to respond to that. just a pile of wrong and then misg...
Oh damn… you are probably right
exotic bronze
i love primordial nb buddy chaos
i also doubt their biological sex can even be classified , given they barely have a humanoid form
carmine trout
according to Plato's The Symposium there are even three sexes, defined as all-male, all-female and androgynous (half-male, half-female). so the claim that it's always been binary is quite narrow-minded, frankly
or maybe uneducated
umbral plover
exactly! intersex people have always existed
exotic bronze
according to Plato's The Symposium there are even three sexes, defined as all-ma...
and new research on chromosomes and sex hormones show a pletra of intersex phenotypes and genotypes.
carmine trout
i also doubt their biological sex can even be classified , given they barely hav...
this, plus knowing that all gods can basically shapeshift, i would imagine Chaos also can. i believe their representation in the game suggests that they don't hold a stable shape even when talking with Zag, represented by all the faces and eyes on them. probably just stable enough, since talking to abstractions is problematic to the human (and human-like) mind
be not afraid, said the biblically accurate angel while being, well, biblically accurate 
umbral plover
thank y'all for agreeing w me :) ik I'm right but it's nice to have people that think the same things I do.
umbral plover
fr fr
exotic bronze
Chaos when Zag is away
zag accidently seeing chaos's true form: why are my eyes melting?
carmine trout
can't remember which movie or book it was but there was sth along the lines of God having to create the Metatron (voice of god) because humans' heads exploded when he tried to speak directly to them - too incomprehensible for the poor human brain
exotic bronze
holy molly
exotic bronze
(btw , i like the pun of your username)
carmine trout
( (: )
exotic bronze
i wonder, does asterius mention stuff about poseidon?
i've made only ~60 runs and met asterius alone maybe 10 times
it's kind of because of him (poseidon) asterius is here
carmine trout
idk how many runs i've made (guess i can check but i keep forgetting...) but in my 270ish hours of Hades i don't think i've heard Asterius mention Poseidon
exotic bronze
mmh i see!
at the same time, i don't know if the events played out the same in the Hades Lore
i still feel bad for Than being shackled/thrown in a box/thrown under the bed/locked elsewhere by Sisyphus 
carmine trout
there are so many versions of so many Greek myths that consistency in lore is always wobbly
turbid cape
also describing chaos as nonbinary irrationally rubs me the wrong way. they exis...
Apologies, it’s just the wording that immediately sprung to mind
exotic bronze
there are so many versions of so many Greek myths that consistency in lore is al...
Both nice and a challenge for posterity!
turbid cape
i wonder, does asterius mention stuff about poseidon?
i've made only ~60 runs a...
Poseidon has a line about Asterius to the effect of “whoops, my b about that”
spiral lily
what? How does that even follow
final marsh
theres no way the olymppians just make friends with the cthonic
just reached the epilogue
if this is the ending, it kinda sucks
twilit grotto
My condolences i guess
twilit grotto
As good as it gets for the most disfunctional family to ever exist
Mutual acceptance and actual appreciation for their nephew is pretty positive all in all
Besides Troy is still fresh so i doubt they are war eager any time soon
That and a common enemy in Kronos probably united them a bit more
spiral lily
if this is the ending, it kinda sucks
what’s wrong with the ending 
carmine trout
wish the party was more fleshed out, yeah
but i loved the boatride
(forgot, are spoilers ok here?)
sly verge
"all spoilers welcome"
carmine trout
oh, forgot i could check the channel description 😅
twilit grotto
It's an epilogue, it's fine. It did feel small but it was a cherry on top to be sure it was all safe and good without a war looming
Lets put it this way, the boat ride home is the ending, and the whole process of bonding with the gods the epilogue
final marsh
I thought with Persephone and detemer and chaos and nyc
Nyx
Something was gonna happen
Idk
It was a whole lotta nothing
umbral plover
it was a good epilogue imo, but I'm way too familiar with the Harry potter epilogue so the bar is on the floor
atomic forge
Hey yall question! So I just beat hades like 3 times and Ive maxed out my relationship with Than, but there is still a lock in his heart
Am I supposed to keep talking to him? When can I give him the ambrosia
frosty vortex
they ||should ask you to escape without their help i think||
glad star
if this is the ending, it kinda sucks
It's very brief and underwhelming
I hoped zag would meet each god one by one
atomic forge
they ||should ask you to escape without their help i think||
Oh they did do that!
They said they werent gonna help me anymore
The book says have 3 more conversations
So Im just gonna beat him 3 times
final marsh
i was almost convinced that there was gonna be war
because the olympians were being used, persephone was "kidnapped"
and olympians had a bone to pick with hades
idk
i feel like it could have been so much more grand
carmine trout
that would've ended the game on a very sour note
zenith wedge
I mean Persephone said it herself, for the sake of avoiding a war in first place they accepted the story of the pomegranate
wild sluice
this channel is to discuss the story of the game, for choices like that #h1-discussion would probably be better. And the 2 keepsakes you mention are completly different: one is just more survivability (probably better to pick close to the end of a run), the other improve chaos boons a bit (should be pick early, when you can get chaos gate).
fluid citrus
Okay so, I just wanted to note this on Dusa's plotline;
||I actually really appreciate that not only does Dusa turn Zag down at the end of their path, but that Zag is understanding about it and is happy to move forward. It's a really nice self contained story that isn't well represented in typical media.||
haughty grove
i mean they are all death related
spiral lily
i feel like it could have been so much more grand
that kinda goes against the point
The epilogue is about making concessions to family
No one really believed it in the end, it just allows everyone to finally come back together in some regard
silk minnow
Finally happening, I'm getting some Fate-related aspects. ...What have they to do with the game, other than having unique traits?
upper oak
Okay so, I just wanted to note this on Dusa's plotline;
||I actually really ap...
yeah totally agreed, we dont see healthy relationships like that a lot, in games/media, especially playing as the hot male protagonist
wooden herald
Finally happening, I'm getting some Fate-related aspects. ...What have they to d...
Well, it's an achievement to get them all, but other than that, not much in terms of story
main flint
Finally happening, I'm getting some Fate-related aspects. ...What have they to d...
Not much in terms of story, but it goes a long way in showing that the Greek myth is connected to the whole world and that other gods exist just as much as the Greek pantheon does. This opens a lot of possibilities if you dwell on it a bit.
They also drastically change how the base weapons work, and provide for a fresh playstyle
atomic forge
How do you get companion battie?
carmine trout
befriend me(g)
final marsh
charon is running the underground betting industry
uncut adder
waaaat
It’s uhhhh, a lot more complicated than that I’m afraid.
Greek genes are weird.
exotic bronze
google says zagreus is child of zeus
There is an explanation in the game actually
novel willow
Zeus is your grandpa and uncle
atomic forge
i knew it alabama is the underworld
uncut adder
i knew it alabama is the underworld
Lel.
wheat basin
its always alabama in mythology
hasty cove
This is everything I've ever wanted.
you can still get Thanatos and Meger there, and it seems even both of them at the same time)
uncut adder
you can still get Thanatos and Meger there, and it seems even both of them at th...
Ik, I just really like this one specifically.
hasty cove
Ik, I just really like this one specifically.
yeah, this one is real specifically
vocal marsh
uncut adder
W
https://imgur.com/a/VcDthIo
Lezzzzz goooooooo
vocal marsh
😎
upper smelt
what if the narrator isn’t homer??? what if it’s rick riordan???
uncut adder
what if the narrator isn’t homer??? what if it’s rick riordan???
BROOOOOOOOOOO
That’d be sick af.
carmine trout
rawr
carmine trout
:3
proven trail
:3
zinc belfry
So I watched the movie RRR last night, and in the movie, they make references to two important figures from two major Hindu epics: Bhima from Mahabharata and...Rama from Ramayana.
And I have to admit, I find it slightly amusing that I recongnized Rama in the film not because I had preexisting knowledge of him, but because he is mentioned in Hades.
uncut adder
So I watched the movie *RRR* last night, and in the movie, they make references ...
Lol
zinc belfry
https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-gif-18906611
I kid you not, that was the exact gesture I made
spiral lily
So I watched the movie *RRR* last night, and in the movie, they make references ...
Sadly I read parts of the mahabarata before hades
uncut adder
Sadly I read parts of the mahabarata before hades
I just knew Rama before hades.
zinc belfry
Sadly I read parts of the mahabarata before hades
Before Hades, I heard of the mahabarata from a friend of mine; I didn't know much about the story itself, nor its cultural significance. Definitely want to learn more now.
outer wasp
Hello, i just choose the wrong dialog in ||the relationship with Meg||, is there a way to undo that and choose the other one other than reloading a save ? Thanks
frozen jolt
youll have to quit and reload if you still can
outer wasp
like go into it or refuse
What's the difference between those two choice ? Only few dialog line later ?
atomic forge
hypnos wont give up his last hearts, is it really just rng? his is the last i have to max
uncut adder
vocal marsh
i did this a day ago but still 😎👍
https://imgur.com/a/J192CRr
idk if this is the correct place to put this 🥴
elder anvil
ye but im tryna get bueowolf
btw
im 90% sure i dont needa put the titan into different things
uncut adder
Lel.
uncut adder
patroclus/achilles favour FINALLY!
Nice
Send a pic with them together in Ely when u see it pls.
umbral plover
will do :)
young scarab
I think Theseus is getting more and more depressed
umbral plover
same
carmine trout
ares my beloved
uncut adder
ares my beloved
uncut adder
uncut adder
Lez gooooooooooo
uncut adder
uncut adder
Noice.
twilit grotto
Queue a scene of shades minding their business in Tartarus and suddenly zag appearing like a mass traffic disaster wreaking havoc with crowd screams and a rolling wave of destruction
uncut adder
uncut adder
Asexual Sovereign.
safe cairn
Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh
fleet lagoon
Sisyphus this is why you are damned to Tartarus
uncut adder
Lel.
uncut adder
Sisyphus this is why you are damned to Tartarus
carmine trout
love that there's always a single blue ghost sitting on the helm of Charon's boat
https://i.imgur.com/mIyWSJD.png
uncut adder
love that there's always a single blue ghost sitting on the helm of Charon's boa...
I think… that’s a statue.
Or at least a gargoyle.
carmine trout
nope
carmine trout
yeah, it has the same model as every other ghost and it's even semi transparent
uncut adder
yeah, it has the same model as every other ghost and it's even semi transparent
That’s the light from something shining on it
carmine trout
nope
uncut adder
final marsh
Do you think hades and nyx had sex
uncut adder
Do you think hades and nyx had sex
Nah.
final marsh
what makes you say that
uncut adder
what makes you say that
Hades would never betray Persephome:
final marsh
i mean
sure
but like
everyone sleeps with everyone down there
also
"The centaur Chiron teaching Achilles how to play the lyre, Roman fresco from Herculaneum, National Archaeological Museum of Naples."
uncut adder
Yep.
But…
That would be a huge break of character.
He’d essentially have to be a different person.
I ain’t saying it’s impossible it’s just very unlikely.
exotic bronze
Hades lore and characters =/= exact replicas of mythology
So it's hard to assess beyong voice lines
scarlet granite
everyone sleeps with everyone down there
There's a dialogue with Achilles where he pretty much says Hades is different from the other gods because he only had Persephone as a partner while most gods sleep around
Also Nyx doesn't seem the type to be like that either
exotic bronze
Hades and nyx seem more geared toward being parental figures for Zag and doing their job right
Like roommates, business partners and co-parents
uncut adder
Yep.
uncut adder
grim socket
Ohhhh I just reached the part of the Story where the ||goddess Demeter|| is introduced.
I love how diverse they made all these characters in this game... I'm in love
uncut adder
I love how diverse they made all these characters in this game... I'm in love
Facts.
Love this dude man
radiant coral
UGHHH im at the part where persephone tells zag to not come back bc of the danger and WAHHH i WILL see you again!!!! this is not over!!!!!
grizzled nebula
yeah
winter geyser
it's fine in this channel
uncut adder
UGHHH im at the part where persephone tells zag to not come back bc of the dange...
Lel.
jolly moat
speaking of hypnos kinda wish you could romance him but he'd probably not be really ideal at this i guess
atomic forge
[OlympusExtra] https://prnt.sc/sqw2gH1cO094 Weird that I've never heard of Leto, you'd think Apollo's mom would be important considering his dad was Zeus
Oh I just googled her, apparantly she was a TITAN - i was not expecting that.
carmine trout
uhm... isn't this for the Hades 2 section
I'd rather not see spoilers for it here...
or at least tag them as such
night abyss
"zagzag"
twilit grotto
Titan and god are more like titles rather than species really
Leto is the titan goddess of the Unseen
uncut adder
In game? cuz Titan and gods are definitely more than titles
twilit grotto
In mythos
uncut adder
Titans are actual manifestations of their aspects.
twilit grotto
Afaik, titans are the first and second generation of beings under oranos and gaia
uncut adder
Gods are humanoid beings that control an aspect.
uncut adder
Afaik, titans are the first and second generation of beings under oranos and gai...
Ye.
twilit grotto
Gods are humanoid beings that control an aspect.
Not necessarily absolute though
As Zeus's real form is a blast of energy
For example
The titans just, were there a bit earlier
In fact zeus and Leto are both from gen 2
(lmao is this Pokemon
uncut adder
Lel.
uncut adder
Cinnawiki
fleet lagoon
Greek myths
Well, its more like gods true forms kill all those who look upon it, nomatter the god
winter geyser
she was a mortal lover of zeus and asked to see his true form in its all glory and died from it
fleet lagoon
Shes the mother of dionysus iirc
And dionysus is technically zagreus in some legends
uncut adder
Yep.
uncut adder
Lel.
misty mural
And dionysus is technically zagreus in some legends
Oh that's pretty awesome ||how they had that prank on Orpheus where they told him that Dionysus and Zagreus were the same person|| then
fleet lagoon
Yea it refrences that
carmine trout
You Really Think Someone Would Do That? Just Go On the Internet To Orpheus and Tell Lies?
twilit grotto
In a parallel universe this game instead features Norse mythology and the prankster is Loki and the trolling probably goes a little (a frigging long way) beyond a funny lie
fleet lagoon
Frig haha
atomic forge
wow ||i didn't think nyx was gonna pull the evil telenovela matron on dusa and scold her|| 
misty mural
||Rare Nyx L||
uncut adder
wow ||i didn't think nyx was gonna pull the evil telenovela matron on dusa and s...
Same.
upper oak
is it every explained where alecto and tis go when they die?
vocal marsh
bro 💀💀💀
https://imgur.com/a/2mDuYep
cinder token
To trigger epilogue how many gods do i have to get high favor?
And by high favor do i need to do the favor sidequests that unlock the ambrosia options?
frozen jolt
you need 6 at max hearts, demeter at the lock counts
uncut adder
carmine trout
some of the things the shades say are quite sad
iirc there's a shade asking if anyone has seen their son, and the cause of death is heart attack
uncut adder
iirc there's a shade asking if anyone has seen their son, and the cause of death...
Yep.
atomic forge
some of the things the shades say are quite sad
then some others are just a good laugh
atomic forge
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/755677197670285312/1066270539926216714/...
How did you embed this linklessly? Neither prntsc or imgur links seem to embed seamlessly unless they're gifs for me. I see your only 2 roles are Hades and He/Him, so unless He/Him lets you upload images in non-upload channels, I need to know the secrets of your wizardry
winter geyser
discord
if you upload an image to somewhere else, you can take the link and it does it seamlessly (assuming desktop)
If you click the little grey "Open in Browser" below the image when you click on it, you can see it's cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/
uncut adder
How did you embed this linklessly? Neither prntsc or imgur links seem to embed s...
I post in a dm and then I copy the link and post it here lol.
😄
uncut adder
How did you embed this linklessly? Neither prntsc or imgur links seem to embed s...
It’d be hilarious if it was just sexism.
Like nah, women shouldn’t oaste links lol.
fast aspen
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/755677197670285312/1066340084191862874/...
He sure was thirsty, eh?
uncut adder
Yeo
spark dust
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/755677197670285312/1066340084191862874/...
they are just like me fr
uncut adder
they are just like me fr
Lel.
twilit grotto
Insert Tenebrix drinking from water jug meme
uncut adder
Insert Tenebrix drinking from water jug meme
YOOOOOKO
LOVE HER!!!
Watched all her videos while playing Hades:
uncut adder
Honestly.
uncut adder
The maniacal giggles when Lord Ares is present
Or Zagreus.
Or than.
Or Aphrodite
Or... (insert name)
twilit grotto
Or Meg
twilit grotto
Or... (insert name)
Ye pretty much
uncut adder
She doing anything recently?
twilit grotto
In other games, but yeah
vocal marsh
uncut adder
The Hades videos were stream highlights
kk, i'ma go look her up.
spark basalt
how do I get the than/meg double romance
I did each of them individually and I still haven't been able to get both of them in the room at the same time
uncut adder
I did each of them individually and I still haven't been able to get both of the...
Just wait.
spark basalt
alright then
twilit grotto
Speaking of which, I haven't had a heart dialogue with Than in weeks of playing, while it still happens with Meg
I don't recall rejecting him
Is this normal?
uncut adder
Is this normal?
Ye, just game pacing.
uncut adder
Ah.
Still.
The game tries to stretch out plot points as much as possible to assure replayability.
spark basalt
Ok Dusa is offering to give back the ambrosia. Which one has the better outcome: accepting or declining
spark basalt
ok
undone vessel
Why is hades so full of himself?
That's just how hades is
Like
Every single myth he's just like "I'm the best and nobody is worthy of my time"
meager mica
his son cut him to size multiple times in single combat and still acts like he is just a bratty teen
undone vessel
I mean he's not wrong but he's also not admitting that he lost
meager mica
what do you mean he is not wrong?
Zagreus been kept in the dark forever
He deserves answers
undone vessel
Lol what
meager mica
what?
meager mica
So lets rephrase that, Hades refused to tell Zagreus that he messed up
undone vessel
Yeah true
undone vessel
Zagreus can't stay in the mortal world long because his soul is tied to the House
That's not the fault of Hades
It's just a condition of the residents of the underworld
meager mica
Hades been told that he cant have an Heir, he did it anyway
undone vessel
Ok fair
meager mica
wait, cant Hades unbind him?
he is god of the dead
I mean feels like the fates are given special treatment to call the shots everywhere
even the gods fear them
undone vessel
wait, cant Hades unbind him?
Nah
undone vessel
I mean feels like the fates are given special treatment to call the shots everyw...
Thats their job
undone vessel
even the gods fear them
I would too if they could cut my life wire whenever and just kill me
meager mica
then its on the olympians for giving them the power
whats the point of the fates if mortals are dead before 50 and spent eternity to suffer or at best die by 30 and fight for eternity
undone vessel
then its on the olympians for giving them the power
They were old when nyx was a kid
meager mica
what?
undone vessel
whats the point of the fates if mortals are dead before 50 and spent eternity to...
They determine the fates of mortals
meager mica
Didnt it say in the story that Nyx is their mother?
undone vessel
Didnt it say in the story that Nyx is their mother?
I'm just going off of actual mythology here
undone vessel
They didn't though
He had a predetermined destiny and they were carrying out what was going to happen one way or another
meager mica
is that destiny still valid? through his death free of their cruel sight?
undone vessel
is that destiny still valid? through his death free of their cruel sight?
It is, everyone is tied to the fates
meager mica
so they planned for him to die, over and over again
undone vessel
Fair point
meager mica
olympians are feet kicked up in heaven and do not feel the sting of death
meager mica
Ichor??
undone vessel
Godly blood
meager mica
I think Zag has red blood cause of Persephone or the fact that he was stillborn
undone vessel
Probably the Persephone thing
meager mica
Most likely Melinoe will bleed too so Persophone must have a mortal relative
undone vessel
Persephone is a goddess
undone vessel
She's a minor one but still
meager mica
"He seems peculiarly to bleed red, most likely due to his mortal parentage."
From the wiki
Hades aint mortal or related to any mortals
Discord is drunk
undone vessel
What
twilit grotto
What even
Is going on with the info
I think i can clear that but I'll spoil you rotten the story
meager mica
Now its working, discord was showing my messages as telebusion's messages
twilit grotto
Not here
undone vessel
There's a candle in my house having a sputtering tantrum
safe cairn
She's not daughter of Zeus in the game, they changed it to avoid incesty stuff
twilit grotto
Not that it would be anyway, since they changed the Olympic parentage a bit too, but yeah
Persephone's father was mortal
safe cairn
well Zeus is Zag's uncle so his mom would also be his cousin kinda
undone vessel
Thus why she has authority over Helios
She can control an ancient sun titan
Am I hearing this right?
twilit grotto
Helios is her brother
But yes
She would be just as ancient
And her title as ruling Olympian probably carries authority
undone vessel
twilit grotto
Ikr
undone vessel
Ruling Olympian
I thought the leader of the council was big daddy lightning bolt
misty mural
Most likely Melinoe will bleed too so Persophone must have a mortal relative
Is Melinoe confirmed to have the same parents?
I didn't know
meager mica
Yes, Hades' eye / feet and confirmed Persephone as the mom
She is Zag's younger sister
Canonically she isnt even born by Hades 1 time
misty mural
Achilles and all the others are legends
meager mica
Also a war is going on
misty mural
And we're not to the point of Christianity and Romans I don't think
meager mica
Maybe Athens/Sparta 30 year war?
meager mica
Demeter must be having a swell time
twilit grotto
Best I can give you is "in ancient times"
meager mica
So yeah, greeks are stil lincapable of being more organised than city states
twilit grotto
Yyyep
By the characters mentioned we can only tell what is past, not more
Though probably we can pin things down by myths not yet occurred
The vague timeline is likely by design though
undone vessel
It's probably gonna be easier to tell what time period it is when you're playing
I'm guessing it's set during a war between the Gods and the Titans
spiral lily
Hmm, Hercules is dead
Surprised he wasn’t made a god
atomic forge
nooooooo ||dusa straight up got fired|| 😭
atomic forge
can you still use fidi
uncut adder
Lel, try
atomic forge
you canttttt
uncut adder
Yep
atomic forge
atomic forge
resetting the mirror to 0 in solidarity
uncut adder
Lel
uncut adder
resetting the mirror to 0 in solidarity
Based.
manic grail
Girl what the hell. Nyx just let Dusa go. I was fine with Nyx before but this crosses the line
uncut adder
Girl what the hell. Nyx just let Dusa go. I was fine with Nyx before but this cr...
Facts, this is literally the only moment I’ve ever disliked Nyx.
spiral lily
Girl what the hell. Nyx just let Dusa go. I was fine with Nyx before but this cr...
I mean she broke the rules of her job
don’t like it personally but
if you keep ignoring your boss telling you to not do something you are doin something wrong
uncut adder
if you keep ignoring your boss telling you to not do something you are doin some...
True.
meager mica
Does Ares have a line for the Rail?
Out of all the gods he would enjoy it the most I think
meager mica
But it would be good for him no? He is God of War
lapis rune
Yeah
meager mica
And a self proclaimed student of death
Huh, he seems to be only olympian who is happy to see Chtonic gods
twilit grotto
The irony of having the degenerate psycho also have the most open mind
meager mica
why is Ares in a relationship with Aphrodite?
hope its not just a cheap joke at "in love and war" say
twilit grotto
Both are the greatest manifestations of human passion
So i guess they are naturally drawn to one another
Pain and Pleasure
safe cairn
why is Ares in a relationship with Aphrodite?
It's cause in mythology Aphrodite cheated on Hephasteus with Ares
Hephaestus then caught them in a net and brought all the gods to laugh at them or something like that
they aren't in actual relationship in the game they just kinda flirt
Aphro mentions in one dialogue that she's married
main flint
Yea, the game paints her as someone who flirts with anyone she finds interesting, but just for fun
twilit grotto
I doubt it's all limited to what is exclusively said
meager mica
I wonder if Athena or Ares would be more fond of modern soldiers
In the canon of Hades lore
Since both are gods over warfare
Comparing their reactions to the Adamant Rail, Athena is treating it as a last resort
While Ares is intrigued of the possibility mortals having it
uncut adder
Huh…
uncut adder
While Ares is intrigued of the possibility mortals having it
Would’ve thought Athena m’d be more interested in seeing how information warfare and technological attacks work.
meager mica
Yeah I mean modern tactics are such 10 steps ahead enemy sometimes doesnt see them coming
uncut adder
Yeah I mean modern tactics are such 10 steps ahead enemy sometimes doesnt see th...
Exactly, Athena’d prolly’d be pumped.
grim socket
when I first played this game when it came out, I only had access to my brothers steam account and had to play it at his place - so I got like - 10 hours in?
Now I can finally play it on my own and GODS do I want to get my hand on that SCRIPT!
There's so much brilliant dialogue happening, so many genre interactions. The wording and writing is just brilliant.... And it's so well researched ....
It honestly feels like playing a graphic novel.. I love it.
uncut adder
when I first played this game when it came out, I only had access to my brothers...
Yes, reactions like this are why I enjoy this game so much, it's designed so well and is paced so well done that it feels less like a game and more like an experience.
vital bronze
hey quick question trying to do "The Queen's Plan" right now and I know to do so I have to form bonds with 6 of the olympians.
Im stuck on ares right now, six hearts done but the last is locked even after completing his quest
is there another prerequisite to unlocking his 7th heart slot?
uncut adder
is there another prerequisite to unlocking his 7th heart slot?
It unlocks after meeting him a few encounters later
carmine trout
his son cut him to size multiple times in single combat and still acts like he i...
*his son aided by a multitude of gods, both chtonic and olympian
uncut adder
I hate u dyno
uncut adder
*his son aided by a multitude of gods, both chtonic and olympian
^
Zag is immensely carried.
fast aspen
Apologies if I'm mentioning an old easter egg, but I managed to take a Yarn of Ariadne (Well item; rarity upgrade for next boon) all the way to Theseus's boss chamber and was greeted to a new dialogue between him and Zag recounting his and Asterius's history with the Yarn.
It wasn't much information, but knowing it was included makes me wonder if other encounters might have a similar thing so ... more fun things other than runs to try!
uncut adder
Apologies if I'm mentioning an old easter egg, but I managed to take a Yarn of A...
Yep, I rly liked that one knowing what happened to Ariadne.
There's more for sure.
fast aspen
There's more for sure.
I know a few react to their keepsake or weapon, Hades reacts to pretty much any hidden weapon aspect, etc. ... though now that I mention it ... I kinda want to see if the bestest boy Cerebus does anything odd when wearin the collar
uncut adder
I know a few react to their keepsake or weapon, Hades reacts to pretty much any ...
There's dialogue I rember, but it was when I just started the game.
main flint
I know a few react to their keepsake or weapon, Hades reacts to pretty much any ...
There's dialogue for heat and mirror too
safe cairn
Apologies if I'm mentioning an old easter egg, but I managed to take a Yarn of A...
There's actually a second dialogue for this that's even better if this was only the first one
if you do it again
zenith wedge
He has like 3-4 dialogues for that
vocal marsh
haHAAA
https://imgur.com/a/hgF9vIW
uncut adder
haHAAA
https://imgur.com/a/hgF9vIW
As you should.
sweet sky
i have dusa full hearts even the 3 ambrosia ones now i don't have new dialogue is there something i'm missing ?
uncut adder
i have dusa full hearts even the 3 ambrosia ones now i don't have new dialogue i...
Nope, just rng.
You have the bond tho rii?
uncut adder
carmine trout
love this one
uncut adder
love this one
Me too lol.
vocal marsh
ik im not finished with the game but still
||https://imgur.com/a/04dtSZw||
uncut adder
ik im not finished with the game but still
||https://imgur.com/a/04dtSZw||
They look so goid.
uncut adder
zenith wedge
perhaps indeed
twilit grotto
Imagine a gmod animation compiling the many deaths of prince Zagreus
uncut adder
Imagine a gmod animation compiling the many deaths of prince Zagreus
Lel.
atomic forge
guessing this would be a story related question. i seen nyx mention that chaos is her mother and father. and i also noticed everyone seems to refer to chaos with they/them pronouns. chaos NB confirmed?
i mean, it'd make a lot of sense.
zenith wedge
cant really have gender if you are the start of everything
carmine trout
would say they're agender
atomic forge
thought so. and yeah, agender or maybe anvisgender.
just another thing i share with them! 😊
chaos is honestly the most relatable character in the game for me.
zenith wedge
Chaos is great
"hey go defeat your dad while wearing my keepsake, is useless but it will be funny"
atomic forge
lol yeah, i read that on the wiki. they're in it for the lulz and i love that.
vocal marsh
figures 💀💀💀
https://imgur.com/a/yJi4OaP
uncut adder
chaos is honestly the most relatable character in the game for me.
CHAOS FOR THE CHAOS GOD
naive summit
*runs in to #h1-story-discussion
"Dionysus is a cool guy"
*runs out of #h1-story-discussion
vocal marsh
bro wym his boons are a W
vocal marsh
that’s what im sayin
naive summit
he is super sexy
grim socket
wohoooo! Mission accomplished! Love wins! ||Orpheus and Eurydice can now see each other again. Trying to get the next couple together. ||
uncut adder
wohoooo! Mission accomplished! Love wins! ||Orpheus and Eurydice can now see e...
WOOOOOOOOOOH!!!!
uncut adder
wohoooo! Mission accomplished! Love wins! ||Orpheus and Eurydice can now see e...
Tell me when u save the next relationship
grim socket
Tell me when u save the next relationship
I'll try! I'm 1 diamond away from successfully doing that.... Or 200 darkness, whichever I can do faster
uncut adder
I'll try! I'm 1 diamond away from successfully doing that.... Or 200 darkness, w...
Lel.
uncut adder
uncut adder
cunning ember
uncut adder
vocal marsh
how r u guys able to attach images
i do it through imgur but still
like in ur own server?
winter geyser
yeah that’s what I do
vocal marsh
oh ok
last cairn
guys
I thought hades and other gods come to underworld its end but my mother coming with me and there is ending screen?
lapis rune
Did you pay attention to the story?
The olympian gods think you were trying to reach them and didnt know that you were constantly taken by styx
last cairn
The olympian gods think you were trying to reach them and didnt know that you we...
yea but
I saw on youtube
I cant send photo
lapis rune
What stops a game from having multiple endings
safe cairn
If you saw the credits then that is kind of only halfway point for the game
if you keep playing the story will keep unfolding
zenith wedge
You reached the credits but there is still a epilogue
glad star
lol, what's that hentai pic in the upper right corner
uncut adder
lol, what's that hentai pic in the upper right corner
That’s a vtuber I was watching lol.
glad star
what's the name of that vtuber
asking for a friend
uncut adder
what's the name of that vtuber
asking for a friend
Lel, Trickywi. She’s genuinely really nice, funny and fun to watch.
glad star
thanks
frozen jolt
Np, glad I get to shill one of my fave content creators.
please avoid posting game screenshots overlayed with nsfw content, following rule 2 in #readme-first
uncut adder
please avoid posting game screenshots overlayed with nsfw content, following rul...
Ah, kk, my b.
grim socket
Okay, I just have to get this out of my system now.
I LOVE how many ASPECTS and FACETTES this game has.
I am at a point in the story where Zagreus told Megaera ||he still has feelings for her, while Thanatos clumsily more or less confessed to him||. He is ||a bisexual mess (if the player wants him to be, and that is the great thing about this game, it's not forced on the gamer) and I love it. ||
There so much LOVE, FRIENDSHIP, KINSHIP, interactions with side characters and overall Diversity and Worldbuilding that makes this not only a "battle" game but a wholesome experience.
The fact that you can make choices that don't effect the outcome of the game but give the story itself so much merit is very rare in gaming, I find - which is why I am utterly in love.
I am invested in the relationships in this game (no matter the kind and shape), which does not happen very often.
Applause to the Team - the Game of the Year Awards were very well deserved.
And all the little gimmicks!
Zagreus has a Shade-fan in the Audience ❤️ And the other day I gave an Inspirational speech in the archives and Zag said: "good thing you don't have to work with me anymore, huh? - and one of the Shades BLUSHED!
And the fact that the Underworld floors get harder, but only marginally so, is great, so the gamers don't get bored.
You're constantly faced with a new aspect of the story or the game mechanic.
I am more hooked than a fish on Zags fishing rod ❤️
carmine trout
uncut adder
Okay, I just have to get this out of my system now.
I LOVE how many ASPECTS and ...
Yes, this is why we love this masterpiece of a game.
grim socket
Yes, this is why we love this masterpiece of a game.
Now if I could only make it past ||HADES ||at some point, I could GO ON! BUT NO! Always beats me -.- '
uncut adder
Now if I could only make it past ||HADES ||at some point, I could GO ON! BUT NO!...
Hehehehe, In good time.
spark dust
I love Erydice sm
uncut adder
I love Erydice sm
Same.
steel hornet
how do i get to the epilogue ?
carmine trout
keep playing and keep gifting ambrosia, in short
warped sun
Do asterius and theseus get 2 new attacks after switching extreme measures 3 off?
radiant coral
hey when i give up, do i lose everything i earned in the run (including ||hidden aspect phrases||) or do i get to keep it
uncut adder
hey when i give up, do i lose everything i earned in the run (including ||hidden...
You lose everything.
Just die.
spark dust
how do i get to the epilogue ?
gifting nectar and ambrosia
uncut adder
i think meg just said "keep going" as i ~~killed~~ sent her back
Good gorlfriend
clever wren
Does anyone have favorite ||Orpheus Chamber Music?|| I'm not rich enough to unlock them all but I might be able to do one or two so far. ||I do love listening to them so much. ||
carmine trout
Primordial chaos, House of Hades and On the coast are my most played
lapis rune
Isnt house of hades the default one
I dont really use them because it seems they reset each attempt to house of hades so i'd have to play them manually
carmine trout
Isnt house of hades the default one
yeah, it might be
tbf i do play Chaos and the Coast the most
quasi sapphire
Does anyone have favorite ||Orpheus Chamber Music?|| I'm not rich enough to unlo...
In the blood
I love the instrumental of that song
carmine trout
oh, right, that one is great too but too dramatic to play in the house for me
otherwise ashley's opening, her voice just cuts right to my heart when she sings "fates weave their threads"
also the verse "home / is not where you live / but who cares when you’re gone" hits so hard 
quasi sapphire
also the verse "home / is not where you live / but who cares when you’re gone" h...
Yeah
I only wish that you could switch between instrumental and vocal tracks in the house
vocal marsh
meg did something sus 😳
https://imgur.com/a/dpFNK2m
austere bay
Does anyone have favorite ||Orpheus Chamber Music?|| I'm not rich enough to unlo...
good riddence is my favorite song
outer surge
I love lament of Orpheus personally ^^
carmine trout
those are also great
outer surge
Don't know if I prefer lament of Orpheus or In the blood
uncut adder
Does anyone have favorite ||Orpheus Chamber Music?|| I'm not rich enough to unlo...
Lament of Orpheus.
Hymn to Zagreus is 2nd place but ain’t even close
atomic forge
question. if hades is a god, and persephone is from olympus, how is zagreus half human?
carmine trout
zagreus's mom is half-human
safe cairn
question. if hades is a god, and persephone is from olympus, how is zagreus half...
In the game Persephone has mortal father
so he's more like quarter human
clever wren
@carmine trout@quasi sapphire@austere bay@outer surge@uncut adder Thank you for all your answers! I am such an idiot I didn't realize I could just listen to the Hades Soundtrack which is available out of game. I'm going to listen to all of those and see by name which I like the most and buy them each in turn in game when I can provided I'm not too poor.
quasi sapphire
<@429721513525248001><@888034857563873302><@135221864803991552><@256872699052294...
In the blood might be a spoiler if you have not beat the main story
it's just the credits song
clever wren
I believe I "Beat the main story" last night but I could be wrong
uncut adder
<@429721513525248001><@888034857563873302><@135221864803991552><@256872699052294...
Tell us which is ur fave and tell me what u thought of Lament of Orpheus.
clever wren
It sounds familiar so far so I am pretty sure I did. I have escaped 11 times so far on various heats and weapons.
quasi sapphire
It sounds familiar so far so I am pretty sure I did. I have escaped 11 times so ...
Yeah then you've beat the main story
winter geyser
The Unseen Ones is a little bit of a spoiler for an optional battle
clever wren
The Unseen Ones is a little bit of a spoiler for an optional battle
I will skip listening to that one for now then thank you.
I don't know how to ask this question exactly but regarding music in game. Does ||Orpheus sing all songs that you unlock/buy or only the ones that his character actually sings? Like would he randomly sing the In the Blood song? I think I have only seen him sing two so far but I also only have 2 unlocked. ||
uncut adder
I don't know how to ask this question exactly but regarding music in game. Does ...
He randomly sings but you only hear the no lyrics version from the music box afaik.
I’ve heard In The Blood in Eury Room, I don’t think I’ve heard it elsewhere.
clever wren
Tell us which is ur fave and tell me what u thought of Lament of Orpheus.
Hmmmm so my favorite songs in game are.... ||Lament of Orpheus holds a special place in my heart (This is probably Spoiler worthy right? It was so unexpected and organic which is why I love it so much) because when I died and was walking towards the center of the House he was playing it and started singing it. I walked over to him and I literally just stood there and listened until he finished. My jaw actually dropped I thought it was the coolest thing ever. And when he was done I didn't know what to do at that point. I wanted him to keep singing it lol. I suppose I'd have to say it is my favorite because of that moment. I will say that On The Coast gives me that same kind of feeling. Probably because my first escape is still very fresh in my mind. It was like the calm AFTER the storm. Such a peaceful and serene piece for the craziness that happened only seconds prior. I was shocked that it was over still and that song started playing. In the Blood is "better" than On the Coast because of all of the vocals and stuff that is going on in it and the moment was really incredible too. ||
Wow that was a lot
uncut adder
Wow that was a lot
I don’t think any less would be able to describe how profound the feelings that those songs evoke.
My heart still trembles everytime I just stop and listen to Lament of Orpheus.
The depth of regret and grief.
Damn.
clever wren
Well said! It’s a powerful song and was a powerful moment backed by a compelling narrative and I had just died. It’s the perfect performance and stage really. I’m at the point where I want to make people play the game who haven’t played the game. It’s just all so good.
uncut adder
Well said! It’s a powerful song and was a powerful moment backed by a compelling...
Honestly, anytime someone asks for a suggestion for a game it’s always Hades.
little warren
Agreed wholeheartedly with what y'all have said. Lament of Orpheus is absolutely beautiful.
uncut adder
Agreed wholeheartedly with what y'all have said. Lament of Orpheus is absolutely...
I'ma listen to it rn.
little warren
Heck yeah!
winter geyser
the "drowning" part ohmygosh
little warren
I K N OW
outer surge
<@429721513525248001><@888034857563873302><@135221864803991552><@256872699052294...
You are not stupid, it's normal to have questions and we're here to listen to them ! ^^ 💜
Feel free to ask.
And for me there is two endings. Or could I say it's an epilogue?
Dumb question but Lament of Orpheus is on the myth of Orpheus and Eurydice where he damn himself by looking back?
little warren
Yes
grizzled nebula
epic trolling
outer surge
Or is there another methaphorical sense that I didn't saw
outer surge
epic trolling
Nyeh?
outer surge
Or is there another methaphorical sense that I didn't saw
I see a kind of emphasis with the story of Achilleus? (Don't know if I should write like this in english)
uncut adder
I see a kind of emphasis with the story of Achilleus? (Don't know if I should wr...
Huh? Whaddya mean?
grizzled nebula
Huh? Whaddya mean?
i think they mean the song could also be related to achilles
grizzled nebula
they are somewhat simialr
in both cases someone laments the loss of someone else
but idk the actual song
outer surge
Thanks ! That's what I meant. I think that it's a kind of ironic when we see Achilles' life. I didn't look but, was kind selfish on his action causing the lost of his beloved
And the drowning part could also relate to the drowning in Lethe, where Patrocles could have forgot everything
Maybe I dig too much ^^'
uncut adder
Nah, that’s some cool headcanon.
outer surge
Thanks ! 💜
I kinda love poetry and... The poetic songs of Hades have, I'm sure double meanings !
Love the image of Diony btw 💜
clever wren
the "drowning" part ohmygosh
That's such a good part
clever wren
You are not stupid, it's normal to have questions and we're here to listen to th...
Thank you!
uncut adder
Love the image of Diony btw 💜
He’s my role model, he’s so awesome.
clever wren
I listened to lament of orpheus the entire time I made quesadillas for dinner. i wish I could sing that high but alas I am a bass or baritone at best.
outer surge
He’s my role model, he’s so awesome.
Krkr
outer surge
I listened to lament of orpheus the entire time I made quesadillas for dinner. i...
As a novice at dubbing I dunno if I could do it. But maybe someday I will try to do a good translation in French
clever wren
As a novice at dubbing I dunno if I could do it. But maybe someday I will try to...
Like turning the lyrics into french and/or singing it in french too? You might be a novice but I am completely ignorant of how to do that as I know zero french. I'd blissfully listen even if the word cheese was sang over and over to the tune and enjoy it lol.
Also I really like poetry. I used to write a lot of poetry years ago so I have a deep appreciation for potential meanings and multiple meanings as I have been there. I don't write anymore but I used to when I was feeling various things.
outer surge
Traduce and maybe singing it. But I would need a little bit of confidence ahah. Since the transition my voice is... Akward? I dunno what pitch I should do ^^'
I should look at all the lyrics to see if I could establish a link between Achilles and the song
outer surge
Also I really like poetry. I used to write a lot of poetry years ago so I have a...
Same here ! If one day you want to try to write again, I have a good exercice. Giving a common theme and write what you think ! (Orpheus would be proud krkr)
outer surge
Btw, I have the event of his lament and when he talks about a calm sea who became a tempest it could really be coherent with Achilles ira
uncut adder
Btw, I have the event of his lament and when he talks about a calm sea who becam...
True
outer surge
I think tomorrow I will try to see the lyrics and write down what I discover. I'm sad that Achilles don't have an interaction with Orpheus
crimson field
I just can't get the work order for the eldest sigil, I have full hearts on chaos and nyx, main story finished and already got the chaos dialog but nyx just won't talk and i'm well over 100 trys in. Am I just incredibly unlucky or am I forgetting a secret condition
safe cairn
do you have administrative chamber unlocked? have you been in it?
crimson field
yes
clever wren
I accidentally just ||borrowed from Charon and got destroyed. That was so funny and a great moment. ||
outer surge
I accidentally just ||borrowed from Charon and got destroyed. That was so funny ...
Same here but wasn't an accident lmao
raw zinc
I beat hades before I got into my first charon fight, did not expect his oar to hit harder than gigaros
zenith wedge
Cant fight him before beating dad in first case
But yeah you dont mess woth your local shopkeeper
clever wren
I beat hades before I got into my first charon fight, did not expect his oar to ...
Yeah that was OP it was so unexpected and was a complete mistake. I was just being a loot goblin as usual lol.
clever wren
Same here but wasn't an accident lmao
You meant to fight him and knew it was going to or wasnt an accident taking the money?
rough haven
I beat hades before I got into my first charon fight, did not expect his oar to ...
Charon is the true hades boss
weak flume
After you fight him once I feel like Charon is the easiest boss, has like one attack and it's very predictable.
Just very punishing if you don't know what's coming because of his incredibly high damage numbers.
outer surge
You meant to fight him and knew it was going to or wasnt an accident taking the ...
First one lmao
smoky abyss
I accidentally just ||borrowed from Charon and got destroyed. That was so funny ...
i got baited fr.
ooh 300 obols, cool, ill take it
rekt
carmine trout
same
tall locust
so hades is related to zeus, right?
turbid cape
They’re brothers, yes
tall locust
and zeus is married to demeter who are the parents of persophene
and hades married persophene
that makes hades the uncle of persophene
and who he marries
yikes
outer surge
The greek myths are likes the english royalty you know
outer surge
Yep
outer surge
Persephone have not the same parents like in the mythologia
spiral lily
i was thinking of the real life mythology
Even then
spiral lily
this is also a fairly common myth origin for persephone
the whole “one mortal parent” tjing
tall locust
but there are still instances of him being the dad
spiral lily
Yeah, and?
tall locust
yeah, you said even then like it hasnt happened?
and you bring up the one mortal parent
spiral lily
Even then doesn’t mean it never happened
it means mythology isn’t internally consistent
Every mythology is weird with bloodlines
there isn’t a single one that doesn’t have it
Ya just learn to not apply our rules to it
tall locust
Even then doesn’t mean it never happened
yeah, i was focusing on the story where it did happen
clever wren
i got baited fr.
>ooh 300 obols, cool, ill take it
>rekt
That's exactly my own play by play too lol
outer surge
There are many theogonia and cosmogonia
mortal grail
what Eurydice dish is the best?
lapis rune
depends on the situation
have good boons you want upgraded? the upgrade your current boons one
lapis rune
i got baited fr.
>ooh 300 obols, cool, ill take it
>rekt
what did you expect?
you robbed a man in front of them
you expect them not to strike back?
sly verge
what Eurydice dish is the best?
99% of the time it's refreshing nectar
upgrading future boons, esp with hermes coming up, is really good
mortal grail
99% of the time it's refreshing nectar
thats what i usually do, thx
grizzled nebula
if you're on cast build sometimes you take the pomming one
twilit grotto
On Rail i tend to pick pom because the weapons rotates through all skills
grim socket
Alright, I have reached a certain point In the game.
Am I jealous that a fictional character that i play has a better love life than I do, because mine is non-existent?
NO! Because Zagreus is my boi and I love him and he deserves to be happy! 😭😭
naive summit
zag grease
spark yew
Having a bromance with dionysus is one of the best thing in the game. sniff
spark yew
the whole ass song orpheus writes about your joke
Zag: "It was just a joke-"
Orpheus: "I MUST TELL THIS TO THE WHOLE WORLD-"
Zag:
spiral lily
Alright, I have reached a certain point In the game.
Am I jealous that a fiction...
tbf Zagreus did bag fumble Meg off screen and try to leave without ever talking to Than so you’ll be fine
raven creek
I swear I should have finished the Skelly quest but I feel like I never got the last bit of dialogue for him
amber osprey
Guys, do i have to put titan blood into the guan yu aspect to get the other hidden ones?
amber osprey
Ok ty
simple sky
god i just completed hades
i mean the story
i am in absolute love with this game and guess what
that's still not the end
lessss ggooooooo
wooden herald
Yaaayyy!!
wooden herald
i am in absolute love with this game and guess what
Are you on the epilogue?
zenith wedge
Sounds like reaching the credits for me
simple sky
Are you on the epilogue?
idk if i truly completed it or not know that the queen got back in home thats all
i think i celebrated much early
i have seen the credits roll but idk bout epilogue
wooden herald
If you keep playing (which I highly recommend you do), you will reach the epilogue of the game.
outer surge
gg !
Btw, I have a question for those who doesn't play in English, does the three fates have another names? Because they have one in French and it's a bit disturbing when I hear the dialogue in English and see the subtitles in French
radiant coral
finished the epilogue yayyy!!
i think im gonna take a little break from the game now and focus on other games 
outer surge
i think im gonna take a little break from the game now and focus on other games ...
Same here, but to return even stronger ! 
lunar kiln
Btw, I have a question for those who doesn't play in English, does the three fat...
equivalent in english would be the Moirai (sisters) which is the exact same thing
crisp igloo
i think its pretty neat
to have a name that calls back to the greek myths
idk if the fates are the equivalent to the moirai but its the closest thing in french
oh nvm
what that guy above said
outer surge
equivalent in english would be the Moirai (sisters) which is the exact same thin...
Oh i see
grizzled nebula
test
smoky sage
Recently maxed Dusa affection/affinity/hearts - whatever that's called, and she's the first one I maxed out with. I hope there's a little more story that goes with that.............. Anyway, my favorite character in the game other than Zag!
grim socket
i just s'xed meg
welcome to the club
Alright so... my brain is weird which is probably why I have to talk about this.
HADES can never ever ever SHAVE HIS BEARD.
Because the shape of this beard - is the LOGO/CREST to ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING in his Realm!
Now.. did he grow his beard to look like the Crest he wanted, or is it like this because it's the beards shape? WHO KNOWS?
But everyone working for him (Achilles, Hypnos, Dusa) and ALL THE ARCHITECTURE IN THE UNDERWORLD has that Shape on it. EVEN THESEUS AND HIS STUPID BELT.
If Hades ever shaves his beard or has severe hair loss, there needs to be a severe re-branding campaign of the underworld... just saying..
he could have gone with the laurels.... or his spear... but noooo it had to be the beard
agile swift
It is also the design of his helmet
grim socket
It is also the design of his helmet
yes.. but did he design the helmet after the beard... or did he grow the beard to match his helmet? IT'S A MYSTERY
agile swift
Eh... Considering the helmet is part of the realm itself. I'd say it came first
haughty grove
plot twist: the helmet changes into the beard's shape
crisp igloo
he was born with the beard
safe cairn
Pretty sure the helmet was made by the cyclopses who made Zeus's bolt, so I'd say they made it in his image
grim socket
Well if the Helmet came first then there must be a stylist in his Realm that styles his beard just so. Bet it's Hypnos secret part-time job.
"My Lord Hades, are you sure we shouldn't trim your..."
"No.."
"But my Lord, the tips of your beard are full of ink..."
"....No"
crisp igloo
Thats how he signs the contracts
simple sky
just found out that if you use aspect of talos to move skelly towards the tartarus view gallery he says "im not supposed to be here"
rose crescent
Not sure if anyone's read the Iliad/Odyssey here, but one thing I noticed only recently is the "resourceful" epithet for Zagreus. Don't remember who calls him that, but it's a common epithet in the Homeric epics, and other ancient Greek works, used often to describe Odysseus / Ulysses (who was one cunning ADS%@!$&). It's like a super-atmospheric Easter Egg....
vague quest
The few stories I didn't mind reading in school😆
rose crescent
Nice! I hated them back in school 😦 But started loving them once nobody forced me to read them... reserve psychology at its worst!
vague quest
Totally understand 😁
radiant coral
how long does it take persephone to come back from olympus 
grizzled nebula
i believe about 6 months
radiant coral
oh i mean like in game time
grizzled nebula
about 6 months
little warren
As someone who's gotten to that point, I believe it's a good handful of runs? I don't wanna say specifics cause I don't remember exactly.
I'll estimate around 4-5, maybe more or less
elder shale
Hey guys, does the story end, after I defeat Hades?
radiant coral
noooooope
vocal marsh
hee hee https://imgur.com/a/fdnRNnH
wooden herald
Hey guys, does the story end, after I defeat Hades?
lapis rune
Hey guys, does the story end, after I defeat Hades?
That's where it starts
swift shale
I love the Hades story from start to finish. Finish meaning completing the fated list and all the updates to the codex from Achilles, and fully renovating the house of Hades.
elder shale
Ok, I will stop tryhard, I will 1 run for fun and then go something else. 😄
elder shale
I just don't enjoy the game as I used to.
lapis rune
For me i just cant get myself to finish a run
I just lose motivation midway trough
So quick question. Why does hypnos not know who redacted is?
Like why does it say redacted on his list
lapis rune
Yeah why doesnt it just say hades
carmine trout
Hypnos might have been instructed to not say it's Hades either
carmine trout
Yeah why doesnt it just say hades
idk, maybe Hades trying to maintain an aura of neutrality on documents
spiral lily
Yeah why doesnt it just say hades
probably because someone killing the god of the realm and leaving the place isn’t something that is supposed to be common knowledge?
When we first killed Hades people like Than and Meg freaked out
rose crescent
arggh, one of Zagreus' "tall tales" that he tells Orpheus is actually one of his Orphic origins stories!! How much depth does this game have??
little warren
a lot honestly
vocal marsh
W hypnos https://imgur.com/a/ejvLbhz
rough haven
arggh, one of Zagreus' "tall tales" that he tells Orpheus is actually one of his...
The entirety of greek mythology
rose crescent
Basically, yes... Any idea who was the biggest geek on the production side when it comes to the mythological aspects/writing? Greg Kasavin?
Awesome https://butwhytho.net/2021/08/interview-developing-hades-with-supergiant-games-greg-kasavin/
main flint
W hypnos https://imgur.com/a/ejvLbhz
Gotta love him
main flint
Basically, yes... Any idea who was the biggest geek on the production side when ...
I think so, yes.
rough haven
Wooooo