h1-builds-and-combat

[kindred sandal]

Gotta take Fully Loaded.

[cunning urchin]

Heart Rend is the correct choice.

[turbid needle]

You would.

[spiral badge]

Lollll

[dusky drum]

id take the legendary

[cunning urchin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/630312677855461377/774519226211762206/772250944590839808.gif

[kindred sandal]

Considering you have Stygian Soul.

[turbid needle]

Third time I've skipped it this run.

There are times when I've made it work on a Cast build (and not just True Shot) but that is not this run.

[cunning urchin]

You skip a Lady Aphrodite Duo Boon?

[turbid needle]

I know, even I'm surprised.

[cunning urchin]

I'll tell her.

[turbid needle]

You know she'll agree with me.

[cunning urchin]

No.

[honest wing]

nyaa

[fierce hare]

what are good builds for eris?

[stable sigil]

Zeus attack + literally whatever

As long as you have max blood in eris, it destroys

[dusky drum]

zeus attack with posiedon dash is good

but yea just zeus attack

[kindred sandal]

Artemis on special is incredible on Eris, especially if you get Hunter's Mark.

[stable sigil]

Cluster bomb, rocket bomb, and triple bomb are good hamme4s

[fierce hare]

oh i dont i just unlocked it lmao

[dusky drum]

i wonder if an attack base can kill, like aphro or smth

cuz you get the 70%

• like roughly 100% from aphro

[stable sigil]

And any special with thicc damage, but zeus on attack

[dusky drum]

so like 25-30 ish per bullet

could work

[stable sigil]

Any ideas for a gilgamesh run?

[kindred sandal]

Merciful End is crazy strong.

And very fun.

[stable sigil]

Gotta love merciful end

[dusky drum]

yk is that fist any good

i just dont like it

[kindred sandal]

I think Gilgamesh is probably the best aspect to use Merciful end.

[dusky drum]

too clunky

[stable sigil]

I agree

You get more dashes though

[dusky drum]

yea but arent the dashes arguably worse

since its not as fast

[kindred sandal]

I use Ruthless Reflex for massive damage and survivability spikes.

No, I'm pretty sure that if anything, the dashes are faster because they can be chained.

[dusky drum]

oh thats smart

[dusky drum]

the dashed are rhytmic instead of just press the button

so like

since im more of a reaction player

[kindred sandal]

I mean that the dash button can be held down to dash as many times as you can one right after another.

But if you like, you can still just dash once at a time.

[dusky drum]

yea ig having the hold option and the not so immediate action is what makes it feel iffi to me

and idk if maim is even good

like it seems very meh

[stable sigil]

Im gonna do a sea storms build with zeus attack

[dusky drum]

hmm

im never a fan of posiedon dash on fists

you cant really approach

but you do you :3

that is if youre going for dash

[kindred sandal]

Agreed. The knockback makes it difficult to land attacks on anything that isn't a boss.

The main upside I see to maim is the +25% damage from all sources while maimed, which can be bumped up to 50% with Rending Claws hammer. This works incredibly well with Doom and other DOT, since they normally can't scale.

[dusky drum]

oh is the damage buff global??

[kindred sandal]

Yup.

[dusky drum]

that sounds epic

[kindred sandal]

Which makes Merciful End even better.

[dusky drum]

ill have to put some blood into it and try it out

also man ive gotten epilogue and i havent gotten beo or luci

like wtf

[stable sigil]

Hrmmmm

To get zeus to reveal lucifer, you have to get a piece of dialogue where he talks about the rail first

You have to have it equipped for that

[kindred sandal]

Honestly, I don't think you really need to put much blood into Gilgamesh until you approach endgame. Mainly because only Maim damage, but not the buff, scales with blood.

Maim damage itself is kind of meh, you're right. Even at 400, it's really slow at 4 seconds to activate.

[stable sigil]

rips off gilgamesh's mask old man ares! It was you the whole time!

[kindred sandal]

Yeah, it kind of is just an even slower Doom.

[tranquil falcon]

what aspects make ME work well without dash

i can only think of maybe rama

[gusty rapids]

zeus shield

[barren otter]

any shield (maybe not Beowulf, because it's slower), cause you can easily alternate between attack and special

[tranquil falcon]

oh right chaos ME

[kindred sandal]

Would Lucifer work well with the special pulses?

[rare kindle]

I think Haelian won a ME lucifer build

for what it's worth

[stable sigil]

Zeus shield ME is incredible

Because you can special and attack at the same time

[cunning urchin]

Guan Yu can do that very well.

[kindred sandal]

The attack is so slow, though.

[cunning urchin]

Not Attack. Dash-Strikes.

[kindred sandal]

But that uses dashes, no?

[cunning urchin]

Special > Dash-Strike x2 > repeat.

[kindred sandal]

Yes, but technically any build can do that just with dashing.

[still vortex]

Buff Hermes please. 10% faster special is lame

[coral cave]

Common boons are lame in general

[still vortex]

One more dash is good

Comparable would be 20% faster special at least

Even 100% faster special at epic isn't too much

[hot crane]

Does +attack speed affect the rail's startup, or each shot (or damage tick for lucifer)?

[neon bramble]

@cunning urchin you around?

[cunning urchin]

The point is Guan Yu doesn't need Divine Dash lol. Divine Flourish works just fine.

Yes, m around. What's up?

[neon bramble]

Have you ever played Transistor?

[cunning urchin]

I've played all the Supergiant games.

[neon bramble]

Ok... Go on steam and download a demo called Dandy Ace

It's like transistor had a baby with Hades

[cunning urchin]

I might check it out sometime. Thanks!

[kindred sandal]

Wait, how would that work with ME if you only special once?

[cunning urchin]

Hm? Guan Yu's Special has piercing and a wide AOE, so you just hit everything.

[spiral badge]

Speaking of Hermès I rolled an epic attack speed on a Talos heavy knuckle run and h o l e y m o l e y 👀😳👀😳👀

I was not ready for that

[limber cloak]

heavy knuckle + epic attack speed lmaoo

[spiral badge]

I legit think the fist meta is underdeveloped right now w/r/t heavy knuckle. It’s damage output can get absolutely bonkers. I think it’s honestly overlooked as an option these days

[spiral badge]

As it turns out, I’m pretty sure that heavy knuckle reduces attack speed by exactly 30% these days. Because I had my regular fists back. But every punch did 40 damage 🤤

[limber cloak]

thats insane

[kindred sandal]

I once had heroic divine strike and swift strike and long knuckle on Talos. Incredible damage and survivability.

[spiral badge]

My jaw was on the floor. Y’all have heard me get on my soapbox about this before. I love me some heavy knuckle. I wasn’t ready for that

[still vortex]

@spiral badge you sound excited

[hot crane]

So how do you build around heavy knuckle?

The big issue I see is that you need to luck into it in tartarus, maybe asphodel, or your build probably wont work well for it in high heats

[limber cloak]

if youre purposefully going to build into a specific hammer, then id recommend getting ello's starting boon selector mod

otherwise you'll just be resetting all the time to get it early

[spiral badge]

Honestly that one I just lucked into. I don’t get to do heavy knuckle talos every time I pick up the fists, so I try and take it most times I see it. It was a weird build in general lol. Parlayed myself from a rare Zeus attack, to an epic Aphro, to a Heroic Ares and was going to go for ME before heavy knuckle showed up 😩

If you want to do it consistently, you’ll need a mod like paper said.

If you find yourself on a dedicated run, build heavy knuckle exactly like nemesis, but with a good cast

My favorite for talos in general is Aphro

[kindred sandal]

As much damage that heavy knuckle might do, I really think it makes fists suffer in other ways without certain supporting boons, like fists generally having high hitstun and synergizing with Zeus attack and support fire (which I use all the time on almost all my fist builds).

[honest wing]

yo talos works well with heavy knuckle?

yea that makes sense

big damage

heart rend?

[quaint raven]

Just curious, is it possible to encounter the same Olympian God so many times that they run out of boons to give?

With Fated Authority probably?

[vagrant maple]

it is possible but very rare

I've almost had it happen to athena in fresh file. Got down to 2 boons left

[quaint raven]

I see

[vagrant maple]

I'm not sure what it does if you can't get any boons

I know poms give gold when they don't offer anything

[quaint raven]

Yeah when you have no boons to level up

Had it happen a few times

[vagrant maple]

would be very hard to have every boon, because you would need every core boon too to stop replacements

[willow haven]

imagine getting hermes epics

can't be me

[coral cave]

tuff

[willow haven]

imagine if his keepsake worked like every other god's

[slim lynx]

alternate reality where hermes-only builds are actually feasible

[dense remnant]

daily reminder: acorn is godlike

[odd basalt]

How do you hit legendary or heroic level boons consistently? Is there a mirror upgrade or boon that helps or is it just luck

[dense remnant]

legendary/duo = there is a mirror upgrade that helps

heroic = only if u get it offered as a replacement of an epic core boon OR eurydice or the rare crop boon (i might be missing a boon)

but heroic is very specific

notice how gods sometimes offer replacements of a boon u already have? that boon will always be one tier higher than the one ur replacing

hence replacing an epic boon with heroic

[limber cloak]

also, its important to know how rarities work. A heroic boon is just an epic boon but with a pom applied to it

a rare boon is a common boon + 1 pom level

and so on

[odd basalt]

So it’s just levelled up?

[limber cloak]

rarities arent really that important

yeah

[dense remnant]

that's not true

[odd basalt]

Wow does it affect scaling beyond that?

[dense remnant]

higher tier boons scale better with poms

[limber cloak]

yeah it does affect scaling

that was what i was about to say

[odd basalt]

Ah I see...

[untold vortex]

no they don't, rarity doesn't affect scaling at all

[dense remnant]

and i consider the scaling the most important aspect of the rarity

[limber cloak]

i thought they did, do they not?

[untold vortex]

it's a fairly common misconception
rarity affects the base value

that's about it

that base value increase however can be huge

[dense remnant]

that's still scaling, though

[untold vortex]

my point is it doesn't change how they scale with poms

the amount you will gain from a pom will be exactly the same regardless of rarity

[dense remnant]

so ur saying a pom will give the exact same value or the exact same percentage off of the base value of a boon?

if it's percentage it's scaling, if it's the exact same value, it's not scaling and i get what ur saying

[limber cloak]

also @untold vortex theres an irrelevant video in #h1-victory-boasting that crashes your discord upon viewing it

[untold vortex]

ty for that, it's been deleted

[limber cloak]

👍

[slim lynx]

ello ur computer has virus- crash

[cunning urchin]

@dense remnant pom and rarity bonuses are both simply added to the Lv.1 common value.

So rarity doesn't affect poms at all.

[dense remnant]

oh, gotcha

thanks

[sonic ember]

if i get a rarity upgrade on rush delivery, does the damage increase by 25%

[vagrant maple]

it does

[sonic ember]

okay, sick

[proven osprey]

yeah you can get up to 125%

[sonic ember]

heroic rush delivery?? :O

[proven osprey]

Yeah, but that's not very likely to happen

[tardy dragon]

Are there any cool chiron builds besides artemis special

[sonic ember]

Curse of nausea

[tardy dragon]

I dont like playing with the other bow aspects and I'm bored doing the same chiron build over and over

[sonic ember]

drunken flourish

drunken flourish chiron is p fun

[tardy dragon]

is that doable with tight deadline 2

[slim lynx]

very doable

[willow haven]

ye

td2 is not that hard

[willow haven]

i found artemis special kinda underwhelming, maybe i didn't have enough crit

have you tried zeus chiron?

it isn't super efficient but it was pretty fun

[tardy dragon]

Anytime i do dot stuff it cuts so close

Maybe because I suck

[willow haven]

well it does take time to start doing damage

[slim lynx]

heart rend and clean kill

[willow haven]

^

[slim lynx]

zeus chiron is very meh

[tardy dragon]

Zeus bolts don't proc on everyhit

[willow haven]

yeah it is but i had fun 😛

yep

.25s delay iirc

[slim lynx]

with hangover chiron you mostly wanna get low tolerance and curse of nausea

[willow haven]

max 3 stacks in a second or something like that

make sure ur running poseidon dash because that weapon doesn't do well in styx

[slim lynx]

and also funnel poms into your special to make it deal lots of damage

[willow haven]

you could also try aphrodite, highest raw damage in game

[tardy dragon]

Imma try dio

[willow haven]

aphrodite and doom

[tardy dragon]

Needing duo boons is kinda sus but we'll see how it goes

[slim lynx]

aphrodite chiron builds aren't very POWERFUL from my experience

constantly applying charm with unhealthy fixation is fun but the damage isn't the greatest

a lot of builds tend to rely on duo boons

they're that powerful

[willow haven]

u got any fun beowulf builds that aren't trippy or passion?

[slim lynx]

arty

weak on attack, you know where this is going

[willow haven]

it better work

[slim lynx]

everything circles back to heart rend

no matter what

also since you're using arty cast you might as well go for pressure points and support fire so you can get fully loaded

[willow haven]

is bull rush shot thingy actually good on beowulf?

charged shot?

[slim lynx]

of course

[willow haven]

i might be playing it wrong then

[slim lynx]

you might wanna get greater recall from hermes in that case though

[willow haven]

i'll give it a try again

[limber cloak]

@willow haven try flood shot on beo too, it is insane aoe

plus, easy access to mirage shot

and poseidon's great t2's

[fair locust]

you can deal 600 damage with just a couple of boosts and your casts on beowulf

and your casts drop no matter what so recharging isn't very hard

can deal upwards of 1k if you get lucky with chaos and multiple casts

[willow haven]

aye thanks i'll give it a try

just finished the artemis run and it was pretty fun and quick

got mirage shot too!

[tardy dragon]

dio chiron is way better than I thought it'd be

Actually got my bow pr from it

Got super lucky with duos tho

[brazen nest]

Man, I remember when this game was hard and I could barely get past theseus and now I beat hades without even losing health (acorn)

[willow haven]

yep

[brazen nest]

Also I really need to try beo shield again

[hearty mulch]

Beo Shield is pog

[brazen nest]

I did it wrong in the one try I gave it

[willow haven]

adaptability is the best human trait

[brazen nest]

I didn't focus on casts as much as I had to

Also I got good lol. I'm almost breaking the 15 minute mark

I think I can break it if try really hard

Also with a bit of luck in styx

[tardy dragon]

I just broke 15 today with gilgamesh merciful end

[brazen nest]

I got 16:45 with heart rend talos

[tardy dragon]

Crit kinda sucks with fists imo because they have like 10 base dmg

Try zeus attack with sea storm

[brazen nest]

I had heavy knuckle

[tardy dragon]

And mash your controller

[brazen nest]

Would that be poseidon attack?

Sea storm hits lightning when enemies are pushed back

By flood

[tardy dragon]

Ah i forgot tidal dash

Hold attack while spamming dash around the room and watch everything evaporate

[brazen nest]

I'll keep that one in mind for later

Next run will be a classic zag bow artemis

If I get lucky I'll also get heart rend, not that it matter that much

[willow haven]

30ish runs later most your runs will be sub 15

[cloud vault]

It's gonna be hard again, just start playing with heat

[willow haven]

even if you're chilling you won't cross 20 min mark

^

my current goal is 20 heat with all aspects

[brazen nest]

I'm at heat 5~6 now

[willow haven]

i see, learn to play with forced overtime and tight deadline3

[cloud vault]

Going slow to get used to the Pacts is smart, also good for farming titans

Game expects you hit 32 eventually

[willow haven]

yeah

we just adapt so well

[brazen nest]

I'm mostly playing EM3 and TD and MM

[willow haven]

em3 is pretty annoying

[brazen nest]

I did beat with every pact

For the prophecy

The most boring is traps stuff

[willow haven]

yeah i used it all the time when i first started

[brazen nest]

EM3 is ok, just got to destroy them fast

Acorn helps a lot, killing freeze too

[cloud vault]

You'll want to learn Td2 at minimum

[willow haven]

it's just at some point, they're untouchable

[brazen nest]

7 minutes per floor right?

[willow haven]

yeah

[brazen nest]

Besides some slower weapons like GY I'm confident in doing it

[willow haven]

yeah it's very doable

[brazen nest]

And artur too

[willow haven]

i was reading this braindead guide to 32 heat with arthur

[brazen nest]

I can finish the run, but arthur is not the fastest weapon

[willow haven]

it worked quite well but couldn't fight em3

by the time it attacks theseus is zooming

and bullman is spinning

[cloud vault]

TD3 is better but TD2 and stuff like jury summons or damage control is still fine if sub 20 is difficult

Some aspects don't really care about js/DC while others hate them. Rama for example plows through everything

[brazen nest]

Jury summons is more enemies right?

[tardy dragon]

Arthur is pretty fast

[willow haven]

yep

[jovial fulcrum]

I like JS for the extra gold and stuff.
a couple extra coins each floor is nice

[willow haven]

^ i never really thought of that

[brazen nest]

zag bow and talos are kinda alrite with jury

Since they just melt things

[tardy dragon]

With arty attack you melt rooms and you can just mash on bosses with special and extra hp

[fair locust]

jury summons is deadass an advantage

i put it on in most runs

just makes the game more fun and you get enough obols for almost every shop

[brazen nest]

I'm still farming blood and such

So I don't spend very much on shop

I almost always skip charon

[fair locust]

With jury summons, bouldy and the 15% gold increase per chamber you never have to worry about coin

[brazen nest]

I know it's not meta and such, I'll change that later

15% income?

[jovial fulcrum]

but you could skip an membership card :(

or something

[brazen nest]

Oh, the mirror perk

[fair locust]

The mirror

Yea

[brazen nest]

How do I get the membership? Beating charon?

[fair locust]

Yes

[jovial fulcrum]

yeah

[fair locust]

Discount for all items on that run

[brazen nest]

Haven't fought him yet

[fair locust]

But its super rare

[willow haven]

he is whack

[jovial fulcrum]

I should probably start trying to buy blood from the styx shop, since the prophecies are starting to dry up for me

[fair locust]

His AI is doodoo but he melts you

[willow haven]

mine are pretty dry

[fair locust]

I get more than enough blood from bounties

[willow haven]

i just don't have the lyre prophecy and flamewheel thingy

5 runs and no flamewheel thingy

[brazen nest]

I have cleared all blood prophecies that appeared

[cloud vault]

If you just do +1 heat all weapons you'll have more than enough

[fair locust]

Two blood per run, for now, not too bad

[jovial fulcrum]

Yeah, two blood per run is fine

[fair locust]

Nothing up to 15 heat is really that hard

[jovial fulcrum]

but you could get 3!!!!!!!!!

[willow haven]

[brazen nest]

Is EM4 a thing?

[willow haven]

yeah

[fair locust]

Yeah but that makes the runs less enjoyable because you're less likely to obliterate everything by not spending money

[jovial fulcrum]

yes

[fair locust]

Yes

[brazen nest]

I'll try it once I get to 10 heat

[fair locust]

Very cool

I jumped from 6 heat to EM4

Worth

[jovial fulcrum]

just get hoarding slash with sword, ez game

[willow haven]

lol

[fair locust]

I'm gonna start playing with EM4 at all times I think

[willow haven]

yeah i need t o get used to it as well

[fair locust]

Bosses feel incomplete without it

[brazen nest]

Every heat6 up is EM3 for me

[willow haven]

it's just i find em3 annoying af

[brazen nest]

I find hydra more boring lol

I hate lava

[jovial fulcrum]

that's the goal for me, i just dont have all the weapons up to 10 heat yet

[coral cave]

Em3 sucks I hate it

[willow haven]

frfr

preach

[jovial fulcrum]

Asterius taking Ares' advice and becoming a beyblade is hard

[brazen nest]

Just get away from him and tear theseus a new hole

[fair locust]

EM1, 3 and 4 is sick

[coral cave]

Imagine instead of asterius launching theseus its the other way around on em3

[fair locust]

But hydra is just tedium

[coral cave]

Asterius hitches a ride on theseus' chariot and chases after you

[brazen nest]

Lol

[proven osprey]

He clearly does not need a ride

have you heard of FO2

[brazen nest]

By the time I'm at theseus fight I can melt things

[willow haven]

that should be the goal

[brazen nest]

I'll change my play style to look at charon more times in a run

[jovial fulcrum]

phasing theseus before asterius on EM3 is kinda spooky ngl

[willow haven]

asphodel is the best stage because you'll have most your gear and enemies are somewhat weak

[brazen nest]

Specially since I'm getting so many diamonds

I have 15 now, lol

And that's after trading for ambrosia

Asphodel is blerg, hate lava

[willow haven]

ambrosia is the rarest currency so don't use it deliberately

you won't get it in styx shop as well

(i think?)

[brazen nest]

I'm using it to get the marriages

[proven osprey]

You don't need that much ambrosia

[coral cave]

Elysium least favorite biome because enemies cringe

[proven osprey]

I spent so much of them

in blood trade

[willow haven]

fr fr

preach

how are you so based

[coral cave]

Tartarus best because enemies weaksauce

[jovial fulcrum]

I saved up a lotta ambrosia, never spent it on anything except one titan blood and I still ran out super fast once I got companions

[willow haven]

you're so based fam

[coral cave]

I would say the same thing about you but you dislike dusa

Smh

[willow haven]

bro that annoying voice

get me out

[coral cave]

Worst take you've had

[willow haven]

xDDD

[brazen nest]

I traded a lot of ambro for blood

[jovial fulcrum]

we can forgive the voice because she's adorable

[willow haven]

f

[brazen nest]

Still got to 23

Traded 8 for blood

Then I'm at 3 now cause dusa is THIRSTY

[jovial fulcrum]

23 is like, one and a half companions maxed

ikr

[brazen nest]

I only maxed sysi for now

I also have skelly at 4 cause why not

[jovial fulcrum]

I've got Batty, Mort, Shadey and Fidi

still need two more lol

[brazen nest]

Achilles doesn't want to go forward with his quest

Actually Patroclus that's hiding now

For 4 or 5 runs now

I know low heat sisi is the best

But what about high heat?

[willow haven]

yep

meg

[brazen nest]

I'm guessing thany for bosses?

Oh meg

[willow haven]

because it's quicker than than

haha than than

[spiral badge]

Yeah once you outgrow bouldy it’s pretty much straight to Meg

For most things

[willow haven]

yoo fam

how u doing

[brazen nest]

Yo Aurash, my mentor

[spiral badge]

I still roll with bouldy until LC4 is on or something. Can’t beat that heal

Hello hello

[coral cave]

I use meg only

I used to use fidi but that was before I unlocked meg

[brazen nest]

Meg best lover

[coral cave]

Tru

[willow haven]

antos best boi change my mind

[brazen nest]

I was surprised than could be a lover though

Didn't see that coming

Meg and dusa were kinda obvious

[willow haven]

dusa was obvious?

[spiral badge]

I guess that makes zag

A little demisexual amirite guys ahyukhyukhyuk

[brazen nest]

Yeah, love hearts coming from her head every Convo

[coral cave]

😐

[brazen nest]

LOL AURASH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[coral cave]

We got a comedian in the house tonight

[willow haven]

i don't know why my screen turns black and i talk to meg when she has ❤️

and whip noises

[coral cave]

Board games

[willow haven]

aren't they playing board games?

yeah

what's a whip got to do with that

[coral cave]

Practice

[willow haven]

what practice

[coral cave]

Whip practice

[spiral badge]

Meg is showing zag how to whip a milk bottle off a bedpost at 20 yards

It’s a hell of a party trick

[willow haven]

that's pretty cool

why my screen black tho

[coral cave]

Or they're playing chess and she's whipping the pieces off the board

[brazen nest]

By the way, zag can love all 3 of them right?

[willow haven]

i'm a true man i only kept meg

but yeah

you can

[coral cave]

I am not a true man I romanced all 3

[brazen nest]

I want all bonds, so there's that

[willow haven]

you will get it regardless

[spiral badge]

I’m a slut but Meg is always first in my heart 💞

[coral cave]

You can still get bonds without romancing

[willow haven]

^^^^^^^^^

[coral cave]

You're a what now?

[willow haven]

i made sure to reject dusa

[brazen nest]

I will romance thanatos though

[willow haven]

||and take all my ambrosia back||

[spiral badge]

I was astounded the bot didn’t care about that

[brazen nest]

You get the ambro back?

[coral cave]

Ye

[willow haven]

why did you click it

[spiral badge]

Some of them give it back

[brazen nest]

Interesting

[spiral badge]

Do all of them?

[coral cave]

There's a choice to take it back or let her keep it

[spiral badge]

I don’t remember

[willow haven]

not all

||just hades and dusa||

iirc

[brazen nest]

Hades is nectar only

[willow haven]

ye

[jovial fulcrum]

dusa gives back the nectar too or just the ambrosia?

[brazen nest]

The gods are being pricks with their quests though

Specially chaos and nyx

[willow haven]

amb only

[jovial fulcrum]

that's okay

i don't really need nectar anymore

[brazen nest]

Well, I'm getting my 12 ambro back then

Lol

[spiral badge]

What does letting her keep it do lol

[cloud vault]

Nothing

[spiral badge]

Reminds me of that “nice trap” encounter with the engi from FTL lol

Same thing. You can just take the money back and walk away with no consequences lol

[coral cave]

Side note how many prophecies are there in the game

I counted 55

[jovial fulcrum]

69

[coral cave]

Nice

[jovial fulcrum]

i dont know

[brazen nest]

By the way I finished the duo prophecy, the pact prophecy, the leg prophecy

But I haven't finished a single hammer prophecy

Galaxy brain

[willow haven]

wtf does gifting bouldy do

[spiral badge]

It Is Ambiguous

[cloud vault]

You get the Heart of Stone boon

[spiral badge]

He gives you little buddy buffs

Also it makes sure you go to heaven

[cloud vault]

It's a small boost to something usually, unless you get Ambiguous which is nothing

[spiral badge]

Elysium, rather

[willow haven]

ambiguous?

[cloud vault]

Like you could get +5% special damage

[willow haven]

ah

[spiral badge]

Bouldy has all kinds of random bonuses, and exactly one troll bonus

[cloud vault]

Ambiguous is one of the results. It means you don't get anything.

[willow haven]

oh there it is

i see it

[cloud vault]

You have to believe in Bouldy.

[willow haven]

that's neat

i got cast bonus for a cast build

[cloud vault]

Blessed by Bouldy

[spiral badge]

I would read the hell out of a book on moral philosophy by bouldy

Dudes seen some stuff

[willow haven]

wow, didn't even let alecto move

[cloud vault]

Good cast builds do that

[willow haven]

paper's suggestion

flood flare

[limber cloak]

there is a book

[brazen nest]

Ah, Aurash, check this build for my last run. Zag shield, demeter strike, athena dash with exposed for maximum PS and not 1, but 2 chaos boons for dash strike and the dash strike hammer

[limber cloak]

about sisyphus though, not bouldy

its how ssg was inspired to portray sisyphus as he is

always positive, stoic, if you will

[willow haven]

paper is a pogchamp

[limber cloak]

thank

[willow haven]

[brazen nest]

Beo with flood shot and chaos cast boon, I might try that

[willow haven]

yee

it's amazing

mirage shot too

should i go sea storm now @limber cloak ?

[limber cloak]

sea storm is eh with it

its decent dmg

but not really necessary

[willow haven]

f

[limber cloak]

poseidon t2's are what matter the most

[cloud vault]

No

[spiral badge]

Eyyyyyy! That’s the unga bunga way!

[cloud vault]

There's a bug where flood Flare doesn't work with sea storm

[willow haven]

i just took zeus keepsake

[cloud vault]

Well I say bug but it might not be a bug.

[spiral badge]

Wait is there actually a book about this

[willow haven]

but it's okay i have mirage shot

[limber cloak]

it does say flood flare in the reqs

[limber cloak]

yes

wait ill find the name

[brazen nest]

Every dash-strike was hitting for 200+

Without backstab

[spiral badge]

I was joking about bouldy but I would actually sit and listen to Sisyphus’ sermon on the mount

That’s a chill dude

Beautiful gabe, beautiful

[brazen nest]

The only thing that I missed was a greatest reflex, hermes was not nice

[hearty mulch]

i mean, pushing a boulder up a hill for hundreds of years would bring you a new outlook on life and death

[limber cloak]

i cant find it

aaa

[brazen nest]

By not nice he gave me epic side hustle in asphodel first chamber

Lol

[spiral badge]

The Tao of Sisyphus biiiiiiig facts

Sisyphus would have some incredible truth to spit if you ever met him as he’s portrayed

[limber cloak]

the myth of sisyphus, its called

[cloud vault]

I just see a man who's given up

[willow haven]

i was gonna put that but then i read it was a philosophical essay

then i was like "this couldn't be it"

[limber cloak]

i did say it was about being a stoic

[spiral badge]

Giving up is something people in other cultures spend their entire lives chasing as the living embodiment of perfection

Like ngl Sisyphus attitude is basically “enlightenment” written onto a character, for better or worse

That’s why he fascinates me

[cloud vault]

He made peace with his status quo

That's fine, except he is given a chance to do more and doesn't take it up

[spiral badge]

Sisyphus is an excellent Buddhist, whether he knows it or not

[spiral badge]

I get that. We expect a drive within our heroes to want to do more, and it’s disappointing when they don’t

[cloud vault]

He lives a zero sum life. There is nothing positive from his pushing a boulder up a hill only to watch it roll back down every time

[spiral badge]

I would argue in a way that to rebel and strive once more would make him a zero sum character, not the other way around

Sisyphus’ arc is defined by his opposition to death, a path that led him to suffering and ruination

His heroes journey is his acceptance of his fate and learning to find a peace it seems he may not have had even in life with his good friend bouldy

I think that character wanting to take up “arms” again and escape his bondage, even when permitted, puts him back at square 1

[cloud vault]

It isn't rebellion if his contract was bought out by Zagreus

[spiral badge]

Rebellion isn’t the right term

It’s willfullness

The journey of Sisyphus is the journey of acceptance

At least that’s the story it seems they’re trying to tell with him

[spiral badge]

I’ll look this up, thank you ❤️

[sonic ember]

tried to do hoarding slash with arthur

4k gold and the damage is.. the same

not worth the trouble tbh

[proven osprey]

Hoarding sucks

since it's additive and won't crit, it's better on Zagius with flurry slash

you can have a decent dps but as you said nothing crazy

[slim lynx]

hoarding slash is definitely not worth it an arthur

your attacks are slow and hit hard already anyways

[jovial fulcrum]

hoarding slash doesnt seem worth period, honestly

[limber cloak]

1000 gold gives you like 50% dmg lol

[willow haven]

u got any more of those high damage builds paper

i could've gotten sub11 on this build if there weren't so many skulls in the beginning

[worldly forum]

So, still in the low-heat phase of my Hades runs, getting bounties, I did an Eris rail/Hazard bomb run last night, and used Athena's dash to be able to pick up the Eris buff without killing myself. I really dislike the rail, and it definitely made the run more interesting lol

[willow haven]

hazard made it bad for you

unless you can time it well, cluster is better

you can negate the hazard bomb by dashing right before it hits

[worldly forum]

I didn't get great hammers, and honestly was just kinda like "yeah I'll throw this run away tring this"

[willow haven]

yeah it happens

[worldly forum]

Athena's dash made it easy tho

Because you're deflecting the hazard damage

[willow haven]

aye, you can dash it anyway

but you need to time it well

you should definitely try it again with other upgrades, but i do agree it takes a bit of time to get used to it

[worldly forum]

Yeah. Like I said though, made it an interesting run, probably going to look for creative anti-synergies with the rail until I unlock lucifer, because I really do not like Zag/Eris/Hestia

[willow haven]

my first clear was with the rail

hestia bestia

click r click r

[worldly forum]

I've had luck with Rocket/Triple bomb builds, I just have more fun with literally all of the other weapons

Discovered the joy of Hera bow cast builds, that's been a blast

[willow haven]

haha yeah hera and beowulf are insane

i cannot remember a bad run with these bad boys

[worldly forum]

Just unlocked Beowulf, haven't played with it yet, saving up mah blood for it

[hearty mulch]

having a bad hera or beo build just involves not getting the cast you want

[slim lynx]

beowulf is a pretty good 1 blood aspect

[hearty elbow]

I'm like 80 runs deep in my HM save and Chaos hasn't given me the codephrase for Beo yet lol

[slim lynx]

the upgrades really only help you in tartarus

[willow haven]

i fr thought artemis cast was gonna be bad

but @slim lynx changed my mind

[hearty mulch]

wait

arti cast

[worldly forum]

On my last Hera build I took Zeus' cast and hated it, ended up swapping for Artemis halfway thru the run

[hearty mulch]

good?

[willow haven]

yes

[hearty mulch]

[willow haven]

i..it was alright

[hearty mulch]

now i'm curious

[willow haven]

NOT AS GOOD AS FLOOD FLARE

FLOOD FLARE TOO GOOD

[worldly forum]

Flood cast on hera is amaaaaazing

[hearty mulch]

flood flare great

[willow haven]

1K DAMAGE

[worldly forum]

I also really like crush shot hera

[hearty elbow]

Especially with Sea Storm sad trombone noises

[willow haven]

i tried to get sea storm but couldn't

[hearty mulch]

when you get sea storm on beo

that's when you win

[willow haven]

but hey paper told me to go for t2 poseidon

and boy

i only had wave pounding(?)

the bonus damage to bosses thingy

it was bliss

very creamy run

[hearty mulch]

i like doing passion flare on beo

nice damage

[brazen nest]

Sabita I'll do that build later again

[jovial fulcrum]

Sea Storm is such a fun duo. It leads in to a bunch of fun and silly things

[sonic ember]

yeah thought the damage would be better but goddamn was it awful

even with enough luck to get to 4k in elysium

also, what's the worst boon in the game?

[proven osprey]

The ones that won't help you winning I guess

Like Huge catch

[sonic ember]

that's fair lol

[coral cave]

No definitive worst boon imo

[sonic ember]

i havent seen any.. bad boons

some more versatile than others, and some work on most weapons and some don't

I guess the doom effects? they're not that good on their own

[proven osprey]

Doom is really strong

[tough ridge]

hey guys, i tried the guan yu, i wasnt a huge fan of it considering you have to CHARGE spin to get lifesteal, if you get lucky, youll get the boon for faster charge

[fair locust]

guan yu:
is better with fast spin
can be upgraded for a less significant drawback
has a really powerful special

it kinda demands a different playstyle if you don't upgrade it

hades can pretty much one shot you

[hearty mulch]

acorn is a must for hades when using guan yu

[fair locust]

i did it without :p

i find its not too hard if you're careful

[hearty mulch]

i mean for beginners getting used to it

[fair locust]

can't just spam to win like other weapons

acorn carries for sure but it's not necessary if you have more than 80 health and are willing to run in circles a bit

[hearty mulch]

but yeah, I personally do not recommend Guan Yu. Not unless you're either memeing or actually skilled at the game (using i-frames and such)

It's not bad or anything, but it definitely shouldn't be your first pick.

[proven osprey]

Best hammers : Charged skewer (by far), Quick spin, Massive spin, Serrated Point (good damage, risky).

Breaching skewer becomes a really good hammer when paired with charged skewer.

Classic charged skewer build : Heartbreak strike, Deadly Flourish to get Heart Rend. The other way around is fine too even though a bit less powerful.

Divine strike and Deadly strike can lead to Deadly Reversal which is good for spin builds. Divine strike is safer, you can play around your spin to stay safe while dealing damage.

Optimal dps rotation : Special > Dash strike > Dash strike. Cast can fit in this rotation while your special is on cooldown.

these are the lines I'm giving for beginners with GY

[sonic ember]

i dont really think it's good as a standalone boon

unless you do ME, or impedent(?) doom or whatever that one was called

[hearty mulch]

imminent doom

[proven osprey]

Impeding doom

It's bad without ME tho

[hearty mulch]

ah

[proven osprey]

delays your dps too much

[sonic ember]

yes impending doom

kind of but worth for the damage

especially if you're playing keepaway

[proven osprey]

No it's not

You'll most likely overkill your enemies

because you'll punch them until they're like 25% hp

[sonic ember]

mm actually yeah now that I think about it

im usually talking about bosses though

[hearty mulch]

yeah, bosses are where ME shines best most of the time

you take off like a third of their health per ME

[proven osprey]

Doom is fine alone on fast weapon or that don't scale really well with % boon

Like doom on fists even without ME is decent

with ME it's absolute destruction

[hearty mulch]

Doom Rail

🙃

[proven osprey]

You'll be surprised that it works well with Eris and Hestia

[hearty mulch]

I know

especially Eris since that one focuses a lot on the special

so every time you apply doom you just

break the enemy

and then get more damage

it's great

Merciful End is a Fair and Balanced Duo Boon with No Exploits

[jovial fulcrum]

serrated is so good.
It's saved runs that I thought were dead

[proven osprey]

It really is

But as the heat goes up, it's really tough with Guan Yu

Requires a lot of practice

[hearty mulch]

my only problem with serrated is the fact it shortens your dash

but if you get a call which makes you invincible, like poseidon or athena, then it isn't too much of a problem

[proven osprey]

well that's the only problem lmao

[hearty mulch]

yeah

and achilles basically nullifies that problem anyways with raging rush

[proven osprey]

Yup Achilles does not care

[jovial fulcrum]

its not as bad if you get more dashes from hermes

[limber cloak]

ayy a fellow tea enjoyer!

[hearty mulch]

if you get epic Greatest Reflex from Hermes, that'll negate it too

[hearty mulch]

aaaaaayyyyyyyyy

[proven osprey]

is this UK gang

[limber cloak]

nah this is a yt channel gang

[hearty mulch]

nah. spiffing brit gang

[proven osprey]

oh ok

[coral cave]

I have watched like one or two spiffingbrit videos

[limber cloak]

the youtuber happens to be from uk

[coral cave]

Can't remember which ones for the life of me

[limber cloak]

and loves yorkshire tea to death

[coral cave]

Tea and biscuits innit bruv

[limber cloak]

mate shudap

[coral cave]

God bless the Queen innit

[honest wing]

YOOOO

asterius is charmed

theseus is not

when asterius hits theseus while he's blocking, it sends shockwaves like those when the skulls hades puts put pop

that is so epic

it's like that scene with thor and captain america

[limber cloak]

ive heard some people say that happens even when asterius is not charmed

and that the shockwaves can damage you

[vale imp]

It’s part of their moveset, it’s not because they’re charmed

And the shockwaves will damage you

[honest wing]

ah

that's pretty cool

[jovial fulcrum]

I thought the shockwave was one of their normal attacks after a certain heat

Theseus even says something like "Delta Strike" or w/e before it happens

[spiral badge]

Nah it’s a move they learn after a while. I think it triggers after their breakup/makeup?

[floral hemlock]

I can't beat Hades

I'm useless

69 tries and I didn't even beat his second phase

[solid cairn]

Takes time

[willow haven]

yeow

[floral hemlock]

imma give it one more run. i succeed my save file lives another day, i don't i start all over xd

[abstract flower]

I'm clearing medium-heat runs left and right, but I feel like there is something I'm missing...

The synergy of my boons; they're all over the place. I get duos, but aside from that, there is no consistency.

[limber cloak]

dont start all over

[willow haven]

you got any of those juicy creamy builds paper?

[devout trellis]

So quick question

Does Zeus lighting proc on every single Rama special hit?

[slim lynx]

i mean the internal cd still applies

[devout trellis]

I heard some people say it only proc once or twice

So the internal cd does make it not very ideal

[zinc nova]

hello can someone tell me how triple jab and serrated point works together

[devout trellis]

I don’t think they work together

[hearty elbow]

They don't interact

[devout trellis]

At least no synergy?

[proven osprey]

Triple jab works on attack, Serrated on dash strikes.

[hearty elbow]

They affect two different parts of your moveset

[devout trellis]

And I find triple jab are pretty useless

[hearty elbow]

I only learned yesterday that they don't shotgun lmao.

[proven osprey]

It's not really useless

more like utter garbage

[patent pewter]

the spread is too big for using it as shotgun, but decent for clearing room i guess

[abstract flower]

What about Flurry Jab?

On achiles

[robust anchor]

flurry jab awesome

[hearty elbow]

It's super aight

[patent pewter]

flurry is good imo spear goes brr

[devout trellis]

Can’t remember when was the last time I use Achilles as an attack focused weapon.....

Mostly just use no brain cast

[hearty elbow]

Not even on big chungus hurtboxes like chariots or Dad

[patent pewter]

yea haha i guess styx to hit more small rats

[devout trellis]

I find triple jab lacks synergy to....well....pretty much anything

[opal lodge]

flurry jab is an insane hammer

[hearty elbow]

It's better than most sword hammers lmao

It doesn't brick runs

[devout trellis]

I guess

[opal lodge]

that takes achilles and zag spear from mid/bottom aspects to the 2/3 aspect in the game

[patent pewter]

sword hammers change sword in such a weird way ngl

[opal lodge]

flurry jab is nuts

[devout trellis]

Wdym, Achilles is one of the strongest cast aspect

[opal lodge]

it has the same problems most spears do

boss damage and aoe

[slim lynx]

then don't play it like a spear

[opal lodge]

if you choose one you have major difficulties with the other

[slim lynx]

just use it as a cast weapon

[opal lodge]

flurry jab fixes the damage problem

[devout trellis]

I never had issue when using hunting blades

[opal lodge]

hunting blades is slow

its good, dont get me wrong, but its slow

[devout trellis]

It’s enough

[slim lynx]

then use it in close-range

[opal lodge]

what heat are we talking here

[slim lynx]

i personally don't even treat achilles as a spear

[devout trellis]

I mean, anything below 30 should be enough

[hearty elbow]

Crystal Clarity + glacial glare + Stygian soul Achilles is so fun.

[opal lodge]

probably

[hearty elbow]

It's also amazing but needs 10000 boons

[devout trellis]

30 heat is like what most casual player will go

[opal lodge]

if youre just talking about clearing <30 heat achilles doesnt have an issue

in terms of casual play, achilles is probably a pretty good aspect

my point is that flurry jab makes achilles probably the second or third best aspect after eris

[devout trellis]

Most people who run 40-50 heat something are like speed runners

Or even 60

World record?

[hearty elbow]

I am not a speed runner lol. I'm so bad at zoom zooming

[opal lodge]

the current speed meta for achilles is to reset for flurry in tartarus

same with zag spear

its just too good

[slim lynx]

crystal beam is fun but needs an absurd number of random boons for it to be strong

and at the end it doesn't even compare to hunting blades still 😔

[devout trellis]

Yeah, crystal beam is.....lacking is most cases

I tried it, and decided to never touch it again

[hearty elbow]

Though tbf Glacial Glare + Styg soul lets you ramp damage pretty much indefinitely

[opal lodge]

glacial glare poms are nuts

linear pom scaling? why not

[hearty elbow]

It's definitely magical Hades land and never actually comes together lmao but still

[opal lodge]

each pom in glacial glare adds another second to the beam duration

you can have an absurd number of beams on the screen at once

[devout trellis]

Like how many specific boons are we talking about here

[opal lodge]

you really just need glacial glare and one of the duos imo

[hearty elbow]

Crystal beam, Artemis core, crystal clarity, glacial glare, ideally at least 1 chaos bloodstone, and a lot of poms into glare

Ezpz

[opal lodge]

crystal clarity is just worse cold embrace

:^)

[devout trellis]

Sounds like extreme luck

[opal lodge]

its one more boon than hunting blades

[hearty elbow]

No one's talking practical here lol. And Achilles damage buff by itself makes it still work without literally everything.

[devout trellis]

Than a perfect hunting blade😂

[opal lodge]

50 heat achilles is with meme beam and no supporting boons

lol

[hearty elbow]

Same deal as Slicing Shot on Achilles, which feels awful until hunting.

[opal lodge]

^

[devout trellis]

Hunting blades works fine regardless the additional boon

Yeah

Agreed

Most of the time I can’t even get merciful end for some reason

The game just refuses to give me merciful end

[abstract flower]

Is there a way to get the duo boons you want, even with God's Legacy?

[hearty elbow]

Reroll intelligently, take +rarity buffs, and fill your core slots?

[devout trellis]

Yeah, fill as much requirements as you can

But still

RNGesus just doesn’t love you sometimes

[opal lodge]

filling core slots

keepsake bonus

only high roll when you have keepsake bonus

minibosses have a slightly lower chance of offering duos/legendsries

[hearty elbow]

Prayer often encouraged.

[devout trellis]

Like I can’t get merciful end with 3 roll😂

[hearty elbow]

Oh and remember that trials can never give duos of any kind ever

[devout trellis]

When I had serval buff

[hearty elbow]

Yeah it happens. Sorry :(. SGG didn't like it when it was close to guaranteed because of how strong it is.

Also as a general rule it's probably not fair that Divine Dash should enable build defining Duos since every builds wants it by default all the time.

[devout trellis]

And sometimes I just can’t get a chaos gate when I try to run a good cast beo build😂

[opal lodge]

i still think phalanx shot should enable DR

[hearty elbow]

The game would be pretty boring if you always got what you wanted tbf

[hearty elbow]

Lol yeah I agree that was def over nerfed

[devout trellis]

But if we had the option to get whatever we what to try it out that would be awesome

[hearty elbow]

There's mods for that

[devout trellis]

Like in practice

Or a mode

Oh, nice

[opal lodge]

the DR nerf is like when one of your siblings does something wrong and your parents punish both of you

[devout trellis]

😂

[abstract flower]

What's DR again?

[hearty elbow]

Deadly Reversal

[devout trellis]

Sometimes you feel the RNG is just fking with you

[hearty elbow]

It was always good but no one was ever like "oh sweet DR now my build is complete"

[devout trellis]

Like I had one encounter I got a double duo boon

Yet none of them is the one that I want

[hearty elbow]

Oh for sure, and that's frustrating, but winning despite that RNG feels magnificent.

[devout trellis]

Yeah, but the feeling fades as you no longer need those titan blood rewards

Or any rewards in that matter

[hearty elbow]

I know even though I would prefer to have SD + 2DD + Patty buff for Dad every time that I have by far the most fun in the fight when I have to carefully count my resources and play less yolo

[abstract flower]

Do people play this game with mods?

[opal lodge]

sometimes

depends on the context

[devout trellis]

Some people

But I tend not to

[abstract flower]

I'm reluctant on installing mods as it might mess with the fun of the game

[opal lodge]

we use a racing mod for speedrun racing

[abstract flower]

if that makes sense

[devout trellis]

Cuz then the experience dies fast

[opal lodge]

and for normalizing starting boon

[abstract flower]

or integrity of the game

[hearty elbow]

Yeah that makes sense

[devout trellis]

I mean, some game encourages mods, but hades is not that kind of game

[opal lodge]

we use a racing mod because losing to someone because you got a 5 sack and they didnt is anticompetitive

[devout trellis]

If you try it once a while it’s kinda fun

But it’s just not super healthy for the long term experience

[abstract flower]

i agree

[hearty elbow]

In general I wish that the mod to prevent 4/5 sacks was more supported in the community. You get to a certain point where it's just crushing when you lose to something you had no control over.

[devout trellis]

😂

[opal lodge]

we have the mod, its just not accepted

[devout trellis]

Like 5 sac with tiny vermin while on limited time?

[opal lodge]

guaranteed 3 sack would be fine imo

[neon bramble]

Tiny vermin takes 20s to defeat

[opal lodge]

thats what we use for racing

[neon bramble]

I don't understand why people have such a hard time against it

[devout trellis]

Depends on your luck and your build

Cuz you don’t get god build every single time

If the game decides to mess with you it’s unlikely to kill it within 20 secs

[neon bramble]

If you can't beat tiny vermin, you're probably not gonna beat Dad

So...

[hearty elbow]

Depends quite a lot on build lol.

[devout trellis]

You can, but takes longer

Like when the game just refuse to give any duo or gives you the boons you need with common rarity even after 3 reroll

[hearty elbow]

And that statement is pretty reductionist. Tiny vermin's health pool is really big and just takes a lot of time from TD. You can't instagib it like most of the Styx bosses

[opal lodge]

^

[proven osprey]

It's tiny, teleporting, random

[devout trellis]

Like sometimes I get the exact duo boon I want before meg

[proven osprey]

too much health

[opal lodge]

its not about fear of death to tiny vermin

tiny vermin always wastes more time than other minibosses

[neon bramble]

I prefer fighting Tiny vermin over the other minis 🤷‍♂️

[opal lodge]

lol

[neon bramble]

Take 0 damage against it

[opal lodge]

dont you also think dedge is a bad hammer

[devout trellis]

I mean, tiny vermin can teleport, has more health than any other room combines

[neon bramble]

I never said it was a bad hammer

[willow haven]

i finally unlocked the 3rd statue

[neon bramble]

I just said I often cancel out of the 2nd hit

[opal lodge]

nice sabita!

[devout trellis]

I wanted Aphrodite statue

[neon bramble]

So I don't utilize it as much as expected

[devout trellis]

Not some boneie skeletons

[willow haven]

it was all thanks to @slim lynx for calling me a coward

[devout trellis]

Wow, sounds like an offense to a lot of players😂

Most of my friends quit around 10 heat

Or 15

Since by that time most content are already unlocked

[willow haven]

hmm i guess

but yeah we need aphrodite statues

[hearty elbow]

Grats! What aspect did you end up using

[willow haven]

one painting isn't enough

[willow haven]

beowulf with flood flare

it was paper's suggestion and on a lower heat run i was doing 1k damage per cast

[devout trellis]

Right! We need more Aphrodite stuff

Or Artemis

[willow haven]

artemis

waifu material

[devout trellis]

Or any romantic options in general

[willow haven]

would actually fit 3 statues

[proven osprey]

You could dedicate a run to them, there's a nice challenge going on

[willow haven]

oh yeah

[slim lynx]

would anyone recommend a good 32 heat build for beginners?

[proven osprey]

Pick your favorite weapon

[willow haven]

do i have to edit my #h1-victory-boasting post or do a new run

[proven osprey]

Check the pins in #h1-high-heat-strategies if needed

[proven osprey]

Follow your heart

[slim lynx]

i care not

give me something

[willow haven]

flood flare beowulf

can't go wrong with that

[devout trellis]

Flood flare? Without any dou?

I mean, the easiest option is of course merciful end chaos shield😂

Or toxic chaos shield

[willow haven]

flood flare with mirage shot

[devout trellis]

Ah, I usually go Artemis cast with mirage shot

Inconsistent but the crit is just too beautiful

[real crest]

Anyone got some cool runs for the || Gilgamesh fists || I just unlocked them today

[devout trellis]

Merciful end😂

You just can’t go wrong with merciful end on fist

[willow haven]

^

[real crest]

That's the instant doom right

[willow haven]

yeah

doom on attack, deflect on everything else