#h1-builds-and-combat
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you can dm it i don't mind
Hm, so I need to screenshot with imgur. Never used that before.
If its a meme, can I have it too
you can just use sharex, which will automatically upload it to imgur for you
How do I do that?
..download sharex?
Lol
Oh

i feel like every time someone mentions talos fists someone goes "but demeter fists"
and vice versa
and i feel like theres no need for hate
And on the 7th day god made fists
we all love fists
And he saw that it was Fun
what is a good build for talos fists?
Imagine aspect of Lucifer with Poseidon
fists in general benefits from things that stack on attack, like dio or demeter
I've never really used them but everyone seems to rave about it
zeus is also good on fists
honestly the main draw of talos is the grappling special which i've found is more good for plain ol utility rather than being a particularly striking combo with any particular boon
talos looks like thanos' hands 
At least I can go fast on these runs cause it's low heat
that being said i like aphrodite on talos special
I'm thinking ill try the same
😄
have fun!!
Is it worth maxing immediately?
Damn what’s a good cast to go for with exit wounds?
I have plenty of blood, but I wouldn't mind saving it
not necessarily
Like Zeus or Artemis?
I like hangover with frost flourish.
the extra damage is mostly a cherry on top. the real benefit is the grappling
its a nice bonus but not the most important part of the aspect imo
Just enough chill to slow.
At one point I had 108 blood
Lmao phalanx shot
Theres a screenshot somehwere
Hey guys give me a weapon and an aspect to use
Divine dash is also nice considering the constant dashing to cancel the combo.
I just did rama though
hades spear
Aha Wightfyre just did a run
sisyphus companion always for me lol
I don't have Antos
rib?
Sure
Man unlocking it is such a pain in the ass
wes
yeah it took me forever
But I hear it’s worth it
absolutely
Bouldy is the best
it perfectly balances utility and being a meme
Ha ha yeah. I saw that Aurash submitted 2 heat after I started mine, but I was feeling good about getting a faster time 
are there any really good hammers to look out for with talos?
Dark thirst weapon, with the next aspect
Funny thing is that my heat gauge for spear is at 3
Thats what I do
How convenient
Perfect
my favs are colossus knuckle, long knuckle, concentrated knuckle, and quake cutter
colossus being my most fav
the ones that let you launch yourself across the room are fun as well, but i find that they're not strictly necessary since you can pull your enemies to you 90% of the time
oh also you cant grapple bosses lol
do bosses at least take "succ damage"?
I forgot to highlight it in my victory screen but my "flex" on my submitted run was taking the Charon fight 
thats a huge flex damn
I think I beat Charon my first time, but failed the run
lol
he is pretty stronk f you get him in the beginning\
had to restart a run because i ran out of time
then the next time I took him on, I won the run with a clutch Patroclus to reset my DD
which fulfilled Hermes' bet rather easily
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/805998877588455454/image0.jpg
Talos for the leaderboard!
Or beat the time 😁
Might as well just go for 4 heat then
Yeah we’re still in ez heats
Alright time for some speed
well if you’re going for 4, i better go for 5
heats absolutely isn't the problem, it's the fact that you pretty much have to go for sub 13 now
nope, its or
Time only matters if you're on the same heat
Hi, I am new here, is there any recommendations for the boons for the Lucifer aspect?
Feels pretty clunky to use
i hear zeus can be fun on attack
I dunno. A lot of people like aspect of Lucy, but I’ve always thought its special had a lot less utility, and the charge-up time for the attack is annoying.
it's slow, but very powerful if used well
I do enjoy rama, and have had some pretty quick runs, at least for me, with it. The shared suffering deal is pretty great for dealing with groups of enemies, especially if you want to apply a status effect really quickly
make sure to apply shared suffering when possible because it also makes the enemy you hit take more damage
mainly using special for damage is not recommended but you can make it work with zeus i guess
I just failed my first talos run to dad
seems to be very good against everything except bosses lol
any recommendation for rama boons?
arty on attack and dio on special is good
you can get splitting headache which goes well with how rama special works
for rama zeus or dionysus on special works really good
just using the special and annihaliting
you can get demeter or aphro on attack for zeus or dio respectively
cold fusion is p nice
people have said so
Dio is good on anything that hits fast
lucifer feels clunky to use
i'm no luci enjoyer but hangover can stack well with attack or hellfire
yeah
I like lucifer with zeus attack
i have no idea hot to use lucifer special
but once i got artemis on the special and triple bomb
Aha my run is in
is there anything productive to do with darkness once you have all the mirror talents you use maxed?
and it wrecked
so with lucifer you can do like a special build with artemis and keep exploding the bombs
Badges and a theme
Aka cosmetics
cosmetics
okay so no nothing productive lol
Yep
I just got the first rank... are you actually able to seeit anywehere?
Wait a minute, my run is invalid now isn't it?
Bottom left
ah okay cool
No it does show
I might have put my run in a few minutes before yours @desert cypress 
Ah cripes
lul
5 heat
As Nyaa said, the run still goes on the board even if it's invalid, just gotta go for faster time or higher heat now
I better get started so I can have some sort of lead
Although perhaps I could just wait
I don't know if I'm doing any other runs tonight, so you're safe
Yeah I'll go for 6
Yeah you're fast
I'll just eat some cake while I wait I guess
That reminds me I have pie in the fridge...
What flavour?
Now I want pie 😦
you're not gonna eat the whole thing are you
Sour cherry, but I don't want to turn this into food talk 😛
Sounds tasty
Oh no!
yikes
it took me a second to figure out what had happened
So you died?
and by that time it was too late for me to recover
This is why I am averse to wireless input devices
yeah lol
Oh no
¯_(ツ)_/¯

someone else can take the 5 heat spot then ig
Did anyone else do 5?
yeah im bummed lol
I believe in you talos fist enjoyer
I'll do it, sorry that happened though bud
I like that so far all the submissions have used unique aspects
eventually people are gonna be using the same aspects just so they can get better times
imagine someone gets the igt wr doing this challenge
maybe we could make it a mini challenge that you cant use an aspect already on the board
yknow, for the first few
if people wanted
I mean, +1 heat is better than a faster time so it'll probably be a while for that yet
btw, what's the first legendary aspect that you guys recommend to max?
I was kind of trying to do that on my own already, I'm down if everyone is on board with unique until they're all used. Hard to coordinate though
chiron is really strong when maed
assuming i’m understanding the rules correctly, you can submit a run that’s like 4 hours long as long as you have a higher heat
I have bouldy's blessing
at which point the speed aspect kind resets
Gonna depend on what you prefer, but Rama is my favourite 4th aspect
Guan Yu is a lot of fun when maxed imo
oh, i mean the 4th aspect of each weapon
just in terms of general use, like agreed among people
rama and arthur i guess
i see
gilgamesh
yeah maim does phat damage when maxed
so basically everything but lucifer lol
welp, as much as i like lucifer
well, dont get the wrong idea
if you asked different people you would get different answers
but seems like it's not the easiest, and most effective weapon to play
lucifer is extremely powerful in the right hands
They're all perfectly playable, which is why I said it depends on your own preferences
^
^^
that said, beowulf is clearly the best don’t @ me
so trying to decide what's next
There are lots of videos out there if you're looking for guides
shield is just an extremely safe and noob friendly weapon
yeah, i saw some of his video
Several of the prominent speedrunners/high heat runners have guides
but looks like he doesn't use rama and lucifer that much
rama is really good
If you want to learn how to use Rama, watch Tail's 60 heat WR video
nice
what wightfyre just said
will do
yeah, with very low investment my rama can hit around 600 in tartarus
pretty good
just a bit slow
ballin
y'know what would be a cool new hammer to add to the game
one that reverses boons attatched to actions
like the boon on your special becomes the boon on your attack and vice versa
100%
aphro on attack got the aphro legendary somehow but not a single another artemis boon lol
not even the duo yet lol
should I go for demeter or zeus
eris rail cluter+rocket and aphro on attack
If you have cluster and rocket it doesn’t matter. Put any %dmg special on and enjoy your free win
what do I have to gain from either of them
do you have a special boon yet?
yea I have artemis on special
oh yeah it doesn’t matter that much lol
i’d go for zeus; get them smouldering air prereqs
hmm makes sense
I joked that arthur made hades dark souls before I played dark souls and now that I have played dark souls almost entirely with (ultra) greatswords I can confirm that arthur makes hades dark souls
kinda sad there's no bonk attack though
why was i pinged lmao
Probably from the Monthly Challenge role
monthly challenge probably
You can see the latest challenge pinned in this channel
Alright then
Aspect of Zeus is really powerful
I beat the Heroes in like a minute
Yeah, I didn't time it but my first submission with Rama I think Heroes lasted 10-15 seconds because I had Heart Rend and Point Blank/Triple Shot by that point
The heroes fight was actually way faster than a minute
I haven't used Zeus in a hot minute, I should try it out again
I had zeus call which annihilated them
Also totally annihilated dad
He kept on running away though
Also all the runs on the board have all been with unique aspects still
silly hades, doesnt he know he’s supposed to run into the attacks?
I felt it was only appropriate
just wait until i smash your record
You can, I'm fine with that
lol im jk. i’m not that good at this game
then I'll smash yours
😳
Woah
But yeah this last run was my fastest
I'm loving this challenge so far
And I'm totally going to stick with it
yeah, its super fun!!
Yeah
i missed the last monthlies so im glad to be able to participate in a new one
It feels nice being at the top, even if it's only for a little while
for sure
bragging rights lol
Yeah that
idk is there a special role for winners/participants?
Nope, just funzies
gotcha
inb4 haelian shows up and blows the record out of the water
If you're interested in actual competition (with prizes), open qualifiers for the Hermes Cup #4 are coming up soon
the hermes cup?
it’s a speedracing competition
I'm no speedrunner... yet.
oh boy yeah im nowhere near that level lol
same but it’s cool to watch
I like to think I'm good at the game but you can't expect me to be the best. I got the game in December.
nice nice
I have it on Switch too, just so I can play more
I'm getting used to controller now
But I can play on kb&mouse too
I'm generally versatile with stuff like that
Actually I am with lots of stuff
It's a good thing
heck yeah
are they streamed live?
Yup!
Rad
ooh nice
ok ok ok
i might have to tune in
eternal chamber or triple bomb on aspect of lucifer dionysus attack
planning to get aphro on special
Oh man so many cool people there
It'd be an honour to contend
I wouldn't stand a chance though, I'm simply lacking in skill.
^
Just gotta keep up the practice 🙂
are you going to enter wight?
Noooo, I don't play a lot these days and am nowhere near that fast either
I play Hades on the daily, so I'm getting better every run
hey, maybe you'll be good enough to enter by the 12th
I beat 16 heat yesterday and I've been trying for 32 heat.
I played a lot during Early Access but nowadays I play on the order of times-per-month rather than per day/week
Yeah, you're in the credits which is cool
yeah, that makes sense. i sunk 100 hours into it my first week and have only played about 20 hours since then
which is more to do with me starting school again rather than lack of interest
but yeah
also that is VERY cool
Unfortunately, I think I joined the Hades community too late to achieve anything of note.
In large scale anyways.
Never too late to get good if you want to
Oh no doubt
But it's also ok to just have fun
And I do want to get good
I could, but I'm not good at organizing stuff.
OMG
With the game
yeah i gotcha
they sell CDs on the store iirc
what do you mean?
I have no PayPal
they take a few different methods
I don't have any
how did you buy the game..
ah okay
Same thing I do with my switch
but you have a credit or debit card right?
Nope
whaaat
If I did, things would be a lot simpler
for sure lol
It's okay though
Just as long as the world doesn't end, I can get gift cards for myself
...how do you buy the gift cards
cash?
that makes sense
lol I don't think I've spent cash in almost a year
i thought you were gonna say you traded for them
like you brought your chicken eggs to the target
Haha no
the barter system
and said "three for a $20 gift card madam"
Let's be mindful of channel topics, please
Right
you right
This was a conversation about Hades at one point
I can bring it back on topic
Sure
go ahead
triple bomb Artemis special Lucifer is busted
sounds pretty busted
I would've gotten my first sub 20 clear if I hadn't done a few troves
I got Zeus attack, Artemis special, and triple bomb within my first few rooms in Tartarus lol
I've tried Lucifer once, not a big fan so far. I should try it more.
it's so fun
oh and I think I had a Chaos boon to buff special damage
rest of the build wasn't anything special
damn it
no legendaries or duos
I can't with talos
I just don't really like laser stuff in Hades
just failed my second time to dad
F
F
ran out of time that time
the bombs are the real busted part of Lucifer
Heat 6?
heat 1 lol
We're already 1/3 of the way through all aspects on the challenge... Wild
I just get hit so much..
i swear i will. probably tomorrow
I think it would probably be bad form to jump a few heat
I did 16 with Hera
that's rough, im sorry you're having a hard time.
Doesn't have to be faster, just +1 
I think you have to do only 1 heat above the last
I haven't really gone for speed yet
I can't do speed yet, but I can do heat just fine.
Okay so I am definitely just standing around punching and then getting hit too much.. any tips on things I can actively do?
dash more
fists perform super well when you're moving constantly
Don't do full combos of punching, interrupt with a dash and then resume
Be mindful of your dashes
also remember Talos buffs cast too
theyre a very mobile weapon
so you can magnet then cast
okay so I basically need to punch, dash, punch, dash, repeat?
sort of
It's conditional
3-4 punches normally
Try to dodge more
'float like a butterfly, sting like a bee'
Then strike when you have an opening
best weapon to pick?
yes
Your preference
also. getting behind the enemy and racking up that backstab damage is really easy and powerful with talos
Best weapon to pick is the one you're most comfortable with
ok
the best weapon is the one you pick with your heart
Every weapon is equal in skill cap and I love it
Shield does tend to be more beginner friendly tho
Shield was my first clear
same here
but once I got a bit better I found it was too slow
I don't know what mine was, lemme check
Bow was definitely my first clear and what I use the most still
Chaos gang
base gang
Zeus trains you into a different playstyle than the other shields which is probably why I'm bad at them
I beat my first run with the Spear
I really really like zag spear in the beginning, but I just could never do all that well with it
I remember being shocked that I won with spear
I can't play any of the spears other than Guan Yu anymore lol
My favourite spear is Hades
I choose not to play with any spears other than GY
its just so much fun to one shot almost everything
I should force myself to play my non-preferred aspects more

I strictly do whichever weapon has dark thirst, so my weapons are all pretty even
Same
11/11/10/11/13/11
I have 45
and I always stick to exactly whatever heat level I'm on
7/3/7/7/5/5
1/6/11/23/1/3
I kinda like Chiron a bit too much lol
and the one for sword and fists came from hunting blades
Chiron is busted lol
as long as you get a % boon on your special it doesn't really matter what your build is
now that I'm up to 11 heat (so EM4 + 9 min timer) I'm working on beating EM4 with all weapons
11/7/13/7/21/6
Okay I think I am gonna go for my first ME run with the fists
I haven't done EM4 yet
i might have a slight preference
I've heard its fun
I have 41 fist clears. Talos best weapon
amen
Talos eh?
so far I've done EM4 with Talos and Guan Yu
I imagine you have at least 18 clears on Talos
I'm assuming ME works fine with talos fists?
19/11/35/20/41/23 for me so far
i feel like its too slow. i just cant get my hp back for it to be worth
Yeah nothing wrong with it
how do you do it'
ME and fists in general are great
yeah the quick charge hammer is pretty crucial for Guan Yu
my only advice is just spam the special
Hello Lyria
and get a really high multiplier on it
but the special is really strong and the spin attack is great at spreading status
also charged skewer is pretty much a must have
Looks like my run will be on top for a little while yet
I'm done for tonight, so feel free to dunk my record
guess my next run is shield
i'm still fairly new to the game. cleared it around 10 times or so. and i think my highest heat is like 5 or something lol
i just know my most picked boon is athenas dash
anyone have tips for Beowulf?
You'll get better the more you play
I feel like I'm not using the dragon rush AoE quite right
aim it so the tip of the dash visualizer thing hits the enmy
don't take poseidon attack
dio cast + stygian soul is fantastic
since I'm used to Zeus I always forget that I can't charge after I throw my special
But infernal soul is better for Castspects
Stygian instead of Infernal?
yeah I thought you would want infernal to load up
and you get them back right away
whichever one rrgens the bloodstones
Stygian has a higher performance cap
stygian is better with dio
^^^^^
The only issue is bosses
don't have to worry about picking up bloodstones
but with Beowulf the stones drop right away
I dunno, my favourite combo is Hera Aphrodite
at least with the cast that I used last time
they don't
Before it expires
lemme see what cast I used my last Beo run
Crust Shot has no timer
I definitely got the stones back immediately
Yes Crust
for crush shot you want infernal
Yeah
oh I had Phalanx
Beo phalanx shot weirdchamp
that actually worked ok
Lol phalanx is pretty high damage
4 stones gave me a ton of deflections after charging
yeah and it does a lot of damage
plus the stones don't lodge
so I could charge straight into boss attacks and not get hit
Well thats handy
somehow I still died to regular Hades
Papa Hades is starting to be nice to me
and I'm pretty consistent at beating regular Hades unless I'm using a weapon I'm unfamiliar with
are you talking about for the prophecy?
Yeah
I know
That's easy enough
But I want to beat him while I'm at it
I'll just not pick hard labour
Easy enough
yeah that's not great to stack with maim
Yeah, unless you like being butchered
I don't
I only have one Legendary left for the prophecy
Black Out is the one
I'm still missing a couple of legendaries and duos
a lot of the duos are combos I never really use
hmm should I take dread flight with Ares special?
I've been doing prophecy dedicated runs
yeah I probably should do that too
other options are Dashing Wallop (maybe) or Sudden Rush (nah)
Beo
Ah
I already have Ares special, so I feel like that would be good
since most of my damage is gonna be coming from my dragon rush
Yeah
The runs are added automatically once submitted. Part of our philosophy is to make the challenges very low maintenance on our side, so that we can just focus on the creative side.
Go for it
Yeah, I figured that out eventually after I added a run 
definitely going for Dio cast
You've got this run in the bag
Are you doing this run for the challenge submission?
well it's heat 10 so probably not yet
Hm
I'm not recording
lol I wasn't paying attention so I forgot what the chaos condition was
Per the rules you can complete the run up to 24h before the one you're rolling
and I attacked like 5 times and lost a ton of health
So if you do it today you can save it to post tomorrow
Wait what?
(5) You may submit runs that were completed up to 24h before the previous submission was submitted.
I thought you weren't allowed to prejack a run
I might as well do a heat 7 run on my Switch then tonight
And a heat 8 just in case
The only danger is that they might still get surpassed in the meantime
Yeah I know
That's why I'm doing a heat 8 too
For some sort of insurance
Although it's fine if it's been surpassed by the time I wake up
And even if it does get surpassed, I'm still getting experience
It's a win-win as far as I'm concerned
How do I submit a switch screenshot though?
Just take a pic with my phone?
You can take a screenshot on the Switch and export it
Photo of your screen works, too.
Eh, I do the export for yt thumbnails all the time.
Though I'm not sure why I forgot it existed.
zag sword has poopy damage im really sad
I pick Zag sword all the time and I'm somewhat offended
Though everyone has their own opinions on things
I can respect that
Alright, I'm gonna go to bed. Good luck with the challenge everyone!
lol I got Ares/Aphrodite duo on Beowulf and I don't even have a cast yet
Dark Regeneration sounds stronger than Chthonic Vitality
Dark Regen is especially better if you have already gotten the bounties for the heat you're using
yeah but if you're not then I prefer Chthonic
especially in Styx you can get a lot back
It can be nice being able to buy darkness and get health, too
so...Charged Shot on Beowulf is a rocket launcher
only issue is I don't get my stones back immediately with trippy flare
probably should've gotten phalanx shot instead
it does a ton of damage though
well that was a weird run lol
tried to do a cast build, ended up not having a cast until near the end of Elysium
and I got Unhealthy Fixation and Ares/Aphrodite duo lol so I ended up getting carried by those
Dang, just had an Aphrodite call hit for 5307
And it was on an add instead of the Tiny Vermin 
oof I hate when that happens
or when you shoot it just above a boss threshold and they take like none of the damage
Got Bad News in Asphodel and only just got Trippy Shot in the sack chamber 
Lady Aphrodite's Aid hits exactly whom she intends to hit. 
I did a Zag Sword run for the board in honour of this exchange
So the current challenge you do a run on heat+1 of the last one basically?
or faster time at the same heat as last
not sure, best off asking @mighty ermine I think
Yes, it's first to claim each new level
Runs are added to the spreadsheet automatically when you submit via the form, so it should be up to date
Submit quickly before the heat gets out of hand.
yes
guys i am doing a cast build with electric shot. now i have the choice between +1 cast or cast deals +48%damage. what should i go for ?
do you have stygian soul or the other one
oof i forgot, can i check this during the run ?
+1 cast for poseidon sword if you aim for exit wounds
yes. i forgot the name 😄
the recommended build for it
ok thank you. +1.
definitely try to get pressure points or support fire too if you can so you can get fully loaded. definitely one of the best cast build boons because it literally gives you 2 casts
what aspect
max out zag aspect, and use the lambent plume
they’re all lvl 1 so any
i only know zagreus because i never use the other aspects lol
Oooh Lambent Plume
lv1 demeter is meh so use talos
lambent plume is good because it adds to your dodge chance and also trains you to optimize how you use your weapon
artemis attack + aphro special, go for heartrend
dio, zeus, demeter attack are also good
poseiden special with a full rupture/wallslam build is very fun with talos
aphrodite alone can also make for fun builds actually
just get heartbreak strike and build towards unhealthy fixation
alright thanks fam
maybe a status curse on special so you can proc privileged status
ares
wait do attack boons also affect dash strikes?
runs 20 heat consistently and doesn’t know that LMAO
but not dash upper mind you
dash strike are kinda weird
they are technically attacks so they're affected by attack boons but also have boosts and benefits that apply exclusively to them
yup like Artemis Dash
and chaos dash strike
doesn't look like it 
if I'm doing Heartrend with Nemesis, should I put Artemis or Aphrodite in the Attack??
Artemis, because you'll want hunter dash
hence Hearbreak flourish is necessary to get the duo
ahh so artemis attack and dash, then aphro special
It's better to get the special as soon as possible so
I you have a choice between second Arty or first Aphrodite you'll go Aphrodite
yeah for sure
but I'm asking in terms of damage output bec. artemis and aphro can interchange in attack and special
hunter dash is staying for sure
I'm not sure how the multipliers would work for which will give more damage between aphro or art attack
I think Arty's better if you go hunter dash
And she has some nice t2 boons which outscale Aphrodite at some point
hunter dash is pretty solid
passion dash isn't bad but is rendered redundant if you have heartbreak flourish
alright makes sense, thanks fellas
I've never really used zagreus gloves, what's the point? dodge seems a bit underwhelming
I'm sure I'm missing something obvious (other than combining it with Plume)
have you had over 50% base dodge chance
you can even bump that up to over 80% using second wind
definitely not, like I said, I've never given that aspect a try, cause it didn't seem to synergize with anything else other than Plume
i mean it's pretty much meant to synergize with plume
but i'm curious, cause i've heard of some crazy clear times from zagreus gloves and i don't understand how
you can use the basic fist builds like zeus or heart rend build
obviously you shouldn't build entirely around dodge chance, it's still important to prioritize other things such as god calls or your attack
makes sense
speaking of Zeus, does anything other than Eris Aspect and Sweet Surrender (off the top of my head) increase lighting-strike damage?
is there a list of those?
nope
hope you're using pierced butterfly
if you manage to survive that you could actually put it in #h1-victory-boasting lmao
what unholy combination did you have
ah yes
just dont look at your health and it's fine
proc the pierced butterfly or die
i wish you can downgrade your weapons to give yourself a challenge
^
wait what's the extra challenge for barrel roll thingy
you have to "one-up" the previous submission
that's it right
for example; the previous challenge submission in #h1-victory-boasting is 5 heat and sub 17 minutes
I wonder which weapon to try to beat hades now
i submitted 7 heat at 15minutes
i could probably submit my first-try 32 heat run but i'm afraid it would just ruin it for everyone else now that they have to do 33 heat or above
it's supposed to go linearly tho?
it has to be maximum 1-heat higher
yeah
oh
just block lol!!
can still tank 3 hits
its 1 HP more than you need
yo wtf why did my run get submitted twice
3 hits and the run's over
any form manager here? i'm a 
just High Confidence (so 50 max hp) and Atrophic curse.
@mighty ermine could you get rid of my dupe entry from the form 
how does one seed a run btw? just give up after a few chambers?
what are some good boon on authur?
arty or aphro are the way to go
arty attack aphro special
It's complex but the inputs (summons, casts...) you make before entering a room increment a "rng count". Each reward will be the same if you can stay on route with the right count. Giving up does not reset the seed so you explore until you get the right boon, get the same rng count etc
more or less ain't an expert
my favorite thing is that
vengeful mood
increments rng
by calling a random number
between 3 and 3
in other words, 3
lmao
lol
i see, now i know why death is required
- it's already seeded if you give up because you have a nice start, simply not routed
yeah that's pretty neat
do you guys occasionally lose track of cursor as well or am i just a
?

im watching someone streaming hades on twitch
and he got the tiny vermin the first time he got to styx
rip 

:pepeGa:
Controller is a common choice sabita, you might try it if you have one handy
i did try it, can't get the hang of it
i'm just super bad with controllers
I’ve honestly thought about an arcade stick for this game lol
It would save some hand wear and tear
Probably not bad for other roguelikes too
hades is twin-stick though
satan???
There you go
Yeah it’s technically twin stick but when I thought about it I’m not sure I’ve ever touched the right one in this game, or roguelikes in general honestly. I like to deal with auto-aim and let my movement do the aiming for me
SatanIsAChillGuy, is a dude from the hades speedrunning discord
i might consider visiting the speedrunning discord sometime
Also Satanisachill guy is basically Guru On The Mountain for a lot of what is known about background mechanics of this game to my understanding
paper 
As I ask around so little of this game is documented and written down lol
His is one of the names I always hear for those who truly understand the madness happening behind the curtain
there's an option that makes the cursor extra visible
it just makes the thing white
Ellemenop too
Yeah I’ve talked to him a little too
Doing big work
I need to reach out to satan and ask some questions
yeah i used to use it but even that disappears sometimes
I almost want to scribe for both of them and write it all down if they’d teach me. There’s so much knowledge to be had about what’s happening here and it exists nowhere but in their brains
no cursor actually bothers me during dialogues with bosses
It exists in the game code btw
yeah i'm aware
I mean, in a legible format?
no like it's coded to not appear during the dialogues
I think lua is pretty understandable
Well I mean not for a noob like me but it's the few lines I've read are clear
yep, most high level languages are like that
As a perspective check, even knowing where to find that information places you leagues above the majority of the playerbase that information like that would help. Myself too for even sitting down and wanting to ask more formal questions like this. That’s who I would want to help with the information that’s kept so locally and not really written down many places right now
But yeah, Lua def isn’t hardmode for legibility. I just like technical writing and this seems like a good challenge, s’all
aye i wish there was like a website for all the fun builds
i wouldn't have to bother paper then 
it's better to experiment on your own sometime
aye i just mindless goof off sometimes 😄
First hidden fist run. Picked up thunder flourish because it was epic. Any suggestions on where to go from here?
what weapon
Thinking I’ll aim for cold fusion.
Hidden fist. I’m not sure where spoilers stop and end so I am not actually saying that part.
ah you already said it 
vengeful mood might be good as well
if you see a dio then take trippy
Vengeful mood is one I haven’t acquired yet, but wouldn’t that not work as well with maim?
I’m at a chaos select now eyeing another cast stone.
it works on everything imo
I was thinking maybe aphro cast since I’m gonna be close anyway, but scintillating feast and ice win would also be nice.
I got a 9 min timer on, but festive fog doesn’t take THAT along.
Guys, which are your favorite weapon?
Bow
I'm into shield and bow, I really crap with sword and spear
Didn't try fists enough yet
And the gun feels weird
i think bow is generally my favourite
prolly spear
sword
Fists gang represent
Cool Kids Play Talos Fists
talos yo-yo supremacy
i tried talos and struggled again 
Well, once you had a taste of explosive upper Demeter it's hard to go back
I don't even know how to use fists
demeter supremacy
xD
Haven't beaten hydra
I forget the name of the hammer but I got hadouken demeter once
And boy was that a thing
kinetic launcher demeter is just insane
yeah that
i got it in the first chamber once on a ME fists run
he was fishing 
which one is kinetic launcher
hadouken
i still dont know what that is
lol
i assume it like, shoots out a projectile?
Yes
it turns your special into a chargeable projectile
Turns fist uppercut into a flying robo-punch if you like
And stacks with dem to massive effect
Also ups base damage, again stacking with dem to massive effect
Also lowers uppercut endlag tremendously, stacking with fists in general to massive effect
S+ hammer
what's s+ 
True, where are my manners

