#h1-builds-and-combat

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rare kayak
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the starting health is really really nice

main osprey
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while I don't know for sure, I very strongly doubt it

rare kayak
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plus high base damage scales nicely with shackle

steep lark
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cause I did a boonless and it didn't proc but I might have had chaos which may/maynot

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I've heard differing opinions if chaos counts as a boon

cosmic hornet
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wait what is this boonless thing?

steep lark
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special dialogue for clearing without boons

main osprey
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beating the final boss without any boons

cosmic hornet
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ooh

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isn't just a remark dad gives in the beginning?

halcyon solstice
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ye that's all it is but it's also a good opportunity to level up charon or sisyphus trinkets anyhow

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still levelling all my trinkets too T.T

opal lodge
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chaos does not

rare kayak
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makes sense

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the dialogue is something along the lines of ||without a whiff of olympus on you||

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||and chaos is... not||

steep lark
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so uh the hammer upgrade that makes bull rush a piercing bullet

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with hidden shield looks really nasty

halcyon solstice
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Oh yeah bc you can load the casts into it

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Yoooo thats actually pretty based

steep lark
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long distance snipe shots

halcyon solstice
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Im not very good w it yet but I tried hidden shield earlier today and it was fun

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I can see why its a lot of peoples weapon of choice

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Id really like to get hidden gloves if asterius would ever shut up about whether or not he's got EM armor on T.T

stray olive
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I just unlocked the hidden shield and was pretty excited to try it but I don't think I've figured it out yet

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Tried ares and artemis on cast with middling results

steep lark
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its really strange but I'm kinda enjoying it

stray olive
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You guys have any good builds?

halcyon solstice
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I had a great experience w it with poseidon cast

turbid needle
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Aphrodite and Dionysus Casts.

halcyon solstice
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But then I took the boon that made it a pulse to fill out the prophecy and it was rough

steep lark
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I had a fun run with zeus cast and like every zeus boon

stray olive
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Hmm okay

steep lark
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now I'm doing ares cast with the ranged bull rush

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and its interesting so far

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not ares

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artemis

stray olive
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Haha sounds like basically any cast... The shield is level 1 though

grim saddle
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do boons that increase special damage increase the damage of the maim effect on gilgamesh?

stray olive
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I tried the charged shot with ares and it was rough haha

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The blades would never end up in the right spot

turbid needle
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No, Fisty.

steep lark
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a certain boatman just burned 2 of my death defieds cause I overestimated my damage

rare kindle
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Have you ever seen his oar? Don't mess with chthonic gods

turbid needle
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Any bonus for having max trinkets?

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Faced Charon first time last run. His oar slap is rough.

steep lark
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smacks me harder than my dad does lmao

turbid needle
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You ever ||throw EM4 with 3 Achilles Hunting Blades and Epic Greatest Reflex?||

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I have.

versed spoke
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I've now beaten Hades more time that he's beaten me. Feels good man.

steep lark
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man I would love a fishing trinket

turbid needle
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Poseidon's is kinda-sorta-not-really.

rare kindle
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It helps you get the fishing legendary at the very least

turbid needle
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Huge Catch can spawn off just carrying the Conch Shell, so in an extremely lucky occurrence could instantly spawn without any other prereqs.

grim saddle
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I still haven't gotten a legendary fish

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not one

opal lodge
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it cant be just the conch shell

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you need one of sunken treasure/ocean's bounty

turbid needle
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Pretty sure I got it out of the gate once.

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You do once automatically.

weak violet
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build for Achilles

turbid needle
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You're right, Huge Catch requires two of Conch Shell, Sunken Treasure, and Ocean's Bounty.

cosmic hornet
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two?

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...so that free legendary was so people actually finish the prophecy

rare kindle
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You'll want to farm a lot later if you want the cosmetics

royal helm
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@grim saddle You have to do a "Perfect Catch" to get a rare/legendary fish

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Which... I saw someone say is pressing the button within like .32s of it biting

grim saddle
river wing
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there's a long white line which flashes on the screen. watch out for that

pine flax
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what do i put on zeus aspect?

river wing
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also. there is a max of 3 fake bops before catch.

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so after 3 fake bops. just react to any movement

turbid needle
river wing
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anything but Ares and Poseidon works pretty well.
ares works well if you get ME.

turbid needle
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when u buffer a normal attack after a spin attack

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you can attack in a diff direction and zag will be facing the wrong way

pine flax
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why is ares bad with zeus aspect?

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dont you proc a lot of doom? does a hit refresh th edoom timer?

river wing
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you can only apply doom when there is no doom.

turbid needle
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its gonna be buns until u get dire misfortune

river wing
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so you're wasting alot of potential

rare kindle
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Doom can only stack with another boon

pine flax
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oh i see

sonic mural
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? i thought the chaos shield cheese build is doom tho

river wing
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chaos isn't zeus

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it doesn't hit as often

pine flax
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what duo boons do you want with zeus aspect? do you get priv status between like jolted + dio/aphro/demeter attack?

sonic mural
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would you ever go a stack build with zeus? for doom/dire misfortune just wondering

river wing
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not really

royal helm
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You will always get a bite in 4 bobs

turbid needle
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u have ~19 frames to react

royal helm
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So... if you get 3 bobs, a perfect catch is always easy on the 4th bob, because you're kind of primed to do it

turbid needle
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depending on ur monitors input delay its really not bad

sonic mural
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or just close ur eyes and wait for sound if u get baited by it

turbid needle
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i lost a chaos fish today bleak

river wing
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i think the best trick if you're getting baited is the peripheral vision trick

sonic mural
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i got my first legendary chaos fish today shadefear

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before i got a common fish

river wing
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where you look to the side and click on a flash in your perip[heral vision

turbid needle
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probably bc i had been playing for 8 hours

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iv3e never gotten a common chaos fish

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i hate that im gonna have to intentionally be slow to complete the codex

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same with the common surface fish

torpid abyss
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Ngl tho fishing in Hades do be wonky

hollow helm
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any tips in fully utilizing Hidden Bow's attack?

turbid needle
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tag enemies with special, dash strike power shot

hollow helm
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Dash Strikes are more preferable to normal attacks I presume?

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I still have yet to get the hang of it

turbid needle
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yep

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they charge way faster

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you don't have to power shot every time, don't keep charging if it'll get you hit

hollow helm
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aight, been enjoying Hidden Bow a lot, I'll need to keep dash striking in mind

opal lodge
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dash strikes are preferable on almost every bow

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you dont always have to do it on hera if you're just using the attack to shotgun casts

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every other case you want to dash strike basically

hollow helm
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Does the attack have to be pressed while in dash or is there a couple of frames after the dash for an attack to be counted as a dash attack?

turbid needle
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There's quite a big window after the Dash that still gets Dash-Strikes.

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the window seems to be pretty lenient

opal lodge
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very lenient

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its most obvious on shield

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not sure if all dash strike timings are the same

turbid needle
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I was actually testing earlier w sord

river wing
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shield strike and dash strike loooks the same, how is it obvious D:

opal lodge
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but they seem to be the same across all weapons

turbid needle
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normal attack is an inward swing, dash attack is an outward swing

opal lodge
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oh i play beowulf

river wing
opal lodge
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it is very obvious when you do not dash strike on beowulf lol

turbid needle
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yep

opal lodge
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clunk

turbid needle
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idk why but beo dash attack feels better than other shields

opal lodge
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oh it's amazing

turbid needle
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I think it's the slight delay that makes it feel good

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It's 'cause you're not getting the standing attack and your subconscious sighs in relief every time.

opal lodge
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true

turbid needle
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Like an infinite pool of serotonin.

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beo standing attack is funny I like it

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I had epic swift strike w beo once

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idk if GY will ever feel good to me

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I think im just gonna leave it at lv 1

torpid abyss
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Dang, 32 heat is pretty tough

turbid needle
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It is not easy.

torpid abyss
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I always die at Elysium

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My boy Patroclus gives me 3 extra DD only for me to lose them all like a dumbo

opal lodge
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hmm

turbid needle
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Don't feel bad.

torpid abyss
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Blasted Shield dudes

opal lodge
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what weapon are you running

torpid abyss
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Like

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There were 3 shield guys

turbid needle
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I threw my first EM4 fight of my Hell Mode file when I had 3 Hunting Blades.

torpid abyss
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With that benefit package

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That makes htem apply a shield to eachother

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They were impossible to kill

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Highest heat i've done is 20 ish

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I was trying to use Nemesis sword

turbid needle
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If you have more trouble with rooms than bosses

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Maybe consider LC4 and stubborn defiance?

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I'm not a high heat expert but

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I functioned better with it when I was doing 32s

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I've been told it's a preference thing though

torpid abyss
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Oh i still struggle with bosses...

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Maybe i should remove time limit

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And try to play at my own pace

pseudo stream
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For fast attacking weapons (fists, Rama special), do people consider Ares or Dio better, or is it largely personal/weapon specific?

torpid abyss
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But then idk what to raise up...

river wing
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zeus is good

torpid abyss
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Ares is overall just really weird

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He doesn't have many reliable dps combos

pseudo stream
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I love Zeus too, but not for Rama, and for fists I’ve found ares dash doom punching is friggin insane

turbid needle
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Zeus special on rama is great lol

torpid abyss
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I mean

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Zeus special has a CD

pseudo stream
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Is it? I would have imagined the internal cool down to be a serious problem

river wing
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it's still good even with cd

torpid abyss
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It is

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Well, it's mostly for this one reason

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Unlike many other fast hitting specials

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Rama special can hit different enemies at once

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The internal CD afaik is applied to each enemy

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So Rama special can indeed apply the lightning to all enemies hit by special

pseudo stream
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What if I want to melt bosses 😛

torpid abyss
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Since Rama special has such low dmg, it's better to raise flat numbers

river wing
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the damage comes from your attack anyways

torpid abyss
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Then you use standard

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Because it's bonkers

river wing
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Ares/Dio isn't bad on rama special by any means.

torpid abyss
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Just toss a special every now and then and spam attack

river wing
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They're also flat damage

torpid abyss
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Yeah like

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Ares special is good on rama special

river wing
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But zeus can destroy a crowd

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since the bolt hit each other

torpid abyss
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Since you usually throw it every 5 seconds

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In order to apply the debuff

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But it really shines once you get that doom stack boon

pseudo stream
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Yeah, I’m not sure tbh

torpid abyss
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Some synergies can make the burst very safe

pseudo stream
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for punching I think Ares attack is probably best

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Because you can play very mobile and safe

river wing
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You can look at the T2s too.
Jolted > Impending doom

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Dio's T2 is just meh

cosmic hornet
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for fists i still believe zeus is the best

turbid needle
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bad influence slaps

cosmic hornet
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...without taking ME into account

turbid needle
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Merciful end is meh without... merciful end

pseudo stream
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I don’t think I e ever had ME on fists

turbid needle
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idk why but i always have trouble getting it when I try

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maybe bad luck

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So I prefer zeus

cosmic hornet
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because you need 4 specific boon for it to work

pseudo stream
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Zeus requires high uptime on baddies though, maybe I should try it

torpid abyss
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So like

cosmic hornet
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one of which is a duo

pseudo stream
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Idk I have my 32 heat fists so it’s largely academic

torpid abyss
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What pact set up should i use to beat 32 heat then

pseudo stream
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Unless I get bored enough to try to get every aspect haha

cosmic hornet
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which weapon?

torpid abyss
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I have unlocked all rewards with sword so i guess that

turbid needle
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I would not run EM4.

torpid abyss
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All aspects maxed

cosmic hornet
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what's your max heat setup currently?

opal lodge
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nemesis 32 is quite hard

turbid needle
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I used poseidon for 32

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arthur 👁️👄👁️

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but i hate sword so

cosmic hornet
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my sword 32 was arthur

opal lodge
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if that's your favorite weapon then sure

torpid abyss
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Eh i closed the game now, can't check

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I mean

opal lodge
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but sword is generally already a pretty difficult weapon

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for high heat

torpid abyss
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Ya think so?

opal lodge
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oh ya

turbid needle
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thank u for adding that second message

torpid abyss
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Well, i used Zag sword a lot

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With Zeus

turbid needle
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zag sword........

torpid abyss
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Also i got a pretty nasty build

opal lodge
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on nemesis?

torpid abyss
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Wait i shared it here

turbid needle
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Funny enough I think zag sword has the highest heat record

torpid abyss
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No no, on zag

turbid needle
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But more because of the player's skill

opal lodge
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nah zag sword has the sword heat record

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not the overall heat record

turbid needle
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oh yeah, i meant for sword

opal lodge
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oh gotcha

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yeah retrash is a legend

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he did poseidon 51 too so im guessing it's more retrash than anything about zag sword

torpid abyss
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Here's the build

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It was ridiculous

opal lodge
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hmm

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and are you using that one for nemesis?

cosmic hornet
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i'd cut down the EM4, add TD2

torpid abyss
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Ah?

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Well, no

opal lodge
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yeah EM4 is one of the last ones you want to take if you actually want to win

torpid abyss
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I pumped up stuff like Dmg

cosmic hornet
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take the underworld customs

opal lodge
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you take it because variety is the spice of life but EM4 is actually hard with othe rpacts

cosmic hornet
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and then do as you think fits

turbid needle
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em4 means no td3

opal lodge
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nemesis can usually go pretty quick

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even with something like JS2

torpid abyss
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Well, i guess i can try idk

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Hestia aspect?

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I like hestia, it's fun to see big numbers

cosmic hornet
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hestia is pretty popular until you reach the DC wall

opal lodge
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use whatever you're most comfortable with

torpid abyss
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But like

opal lodge
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there isn't really a "DC wall" though is there

torpid abyss
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I tend to play the game with Pom flower

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From start to finish

opal lodge
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the DC wall is like 56 heat

cosmic hornet
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true

torpid abyss
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Also "dc wall"?

turbid needle
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damage control

opal lodge
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why

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pom blossom sucks

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LOL

turbid needle
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bruh

torpid abyss
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HEY

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How can it suck

opal lodge
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it does

turbid needle
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ngl it kinda do doe

torpid abyss
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It makes me stronger

opal lodge
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admit it you just like it because it's from mom

turbid needle
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I like the sound it makes

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bwaa

torpid abyss
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Sure sometimes i get my athena dash to level 6

cosmic hornet
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i actually tried pom blossom for a while

torpid abyss
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BUT I LIKE WHEN IT WORKS

turbid needle
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does it work in styx

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if not then it sux

opal lodge
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yes it does

torpid abyss
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It does

opal lodge
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but it still sucks

turbid needle
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but how you securing your build

pallid glade
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I tend to grab it in styx

opal lodge
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think about it

torpid abyss
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I do not

turbid needle
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you gotta have game plan

opal lodge
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if you need pom levels in styx

torpid abyss
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I let the RNG choose for me

pallid glade
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Nah, but there's nothing I'd rather have

cosmic hornet
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the problem i found is... if i use it in tartarus i can't pick my god
if i use it in elysium i have too much variance and it always seem to avoid the boon i want

torpid abyss
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Like god intended

turbid needle
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Oh, you'll love AP2

pallid glade
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And a bit more damage has never been a bad thing

opal lodge
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hourglass acorn and skull earring will all give you more damage if that's what you're looking for

pallid glade
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So I make sure I have my build together and then use all the little encounters in styx to grab a few more levels

turbid needle
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hourglass busted

opal lodge
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pom blossom is very unlikely to hit what you want it to hit

pallid glade
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acorn gives me damage? 🤨

turbid needle
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hourglass in elysium :D

opal lodge
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not having to worry about getting hit gives you damage

cosmic hornet
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acorn gives safety

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more safety = more damage

turbid needle
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deeps

opal lodge
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theres a reason why it's a popular choice for speedruns even though it doesnt give you direct damage

torpid abyss
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Well ten

turbid needle
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I like mashing my way through phase 1 dad

torpid abyss
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It's simple

opal lodge
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you also dont get stunned with acorn

torpid abyss
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Pick poseidon sword

opal lodge
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so you can charge things like rama power shots

torpid abyss
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get pom blossom

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Get a strong cast boon

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Ignore all other boons

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Boom

pallid glade
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Right, but I don't play EM4, and apparently not at heats high enough to make me need the acorn

cosmic hornet
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the madman

opal lodge
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ok

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just depends what you're trying to do i guess

pallid glade
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I've used it when I wasn't sure how well my build would do with all the poison in styx

opal lodge
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i see

turbid needle
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lv 37 aphro attack

pallid glade
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🤷 so the blossom is just more fun at that point 🙂

opal lodge
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that's fair

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if it helps you have more fun who's to say you're not winning

pallid glade
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Although it'd be really cool if it benefitted from the Duo that makes poms stronger

opal lodge
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it would be

turbid needle
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me taking the chaos egg into styx

opal lodge
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feels like an inconsistency

pallid glade
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a little, yeah

cosmic hornet
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if it helps you have more fun who's to say you're not winning
dad bouldy

turbid needle
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are ya winning son

torpid abyss
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No father

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I am not

cosmic hornet
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though if i am taking pom its usually in asphodel

turbid needle
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a whole 2 poms

cosmic hornet
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not huge of an variance, while i already have rough outlines for the build

pallid glade
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But yeah, one of these days, I wanna try a run where I focus on a single boon (probably a cast) and pom blossom that to the max

torpid abyss
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Ok, i got an idea

cosmic hornet
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... wait yeah only two poms huh

pallid glade
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whut? what did you say?!

turbid needle
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not even guaranteed 2

cosmic hornet
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...sadly

torpid abyss
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What if Zagreus could get on his knees and beg for mercy to automatically remove all elements of the pact?

cosmic hornet
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if you're going for full pom build

turbid needle
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zag doesn't do that

cosmic hornet
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i think the aphro poseidon combo is the way to go

turbid needle
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ye

torpid abyss
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@turbid needle It's supposed to be fun tho!

turbid needle
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zag doesn't want to have fun

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he wants to win

solid grail
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Do Hermes boons that increase special or attack speed cancel out the Sisiphis collar buff?

opal lodge
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no

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only attack/special/cast core boons

solid grail
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Cool thanks

robust warren
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skelly tooth vs acorn for dad fight?

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generally

opal lodge
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EM4 or not?

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usually acorn though

robust warren
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ill try it out more then

steep lark
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I'm trying to practice with the hidden aspects more and some are really fun but kinda challenging

pliant anvil
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Hidden aspects are usually slower hitting and definitely require some playstyle adjustment imo

opal lodge
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hidden aspects usually feature some sort of trade off

turbid needle
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does rama even have a disadvantage

opal lodge
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slow charge time

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takes a while to figure out how to pick your spots

turbid needle
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its not that bad

cunning urchin
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Yeah, like Excalibur gives you big damage, but the trade-off is you get +50 HP and a Holy Aura that reduces damage, enemy speed, projectile speed, disables traps . . .

turbid needle
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lmao

opal lodge
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LOL you know what i mean

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you also have enough time to make coffee between 2nd and 3rd swings

river wing
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nice trade off

turbid needle
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just dash between em

opal lodge
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or

cunning urchin
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Rama gives you +60% damage on your Attack, but the trade-off is it hits every enemy.

opal lodge
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just dont do em 🙂

turbid needle
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dash attack arthur

opal lodge
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dash strike dash strike dash strike dash strike

turbid needle
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pole poke poke poke

cosmic hornet
turbid needle
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just don't take dc

cunning urchin
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Just do two Dash-Strikes instead of one.

turbid needle
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just get double edge

cunning urchin
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That's what I said. dusa

turbid needle
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how about doing four dash strikes

cunning urchin
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If I need four Dash-Strikes with Excalibur, I F10. dusa

opal lodge
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if i need four dash strikes with arthur i simply find extra dashes

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heroic dashes with arthur feels so excessive

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did you know you can dash multiple times mid animations during the special

turbid needle
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then zag does a kind of weird walky thing and the hallowed ground appears

cosmic hornet
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wait really?

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the jankiest animation thing i've seen is summoning meg mid rama charge

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and zag just stand there with arrow on the ground

turbid needle
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ass spear

cunning urchin
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The ground slam and Special hitbox is at the end of your dashes, the Holy Aura is bound to a certain time after your Special startup. So the Holy Aura can appear before you did all your dashes.

turbid needle
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tech

cunning urchin
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I.e., before you hit the ground.

opal lodge
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t e c h n o l o g y

turbid needle
trim shard
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how do I lucifer

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just maxed it never used it

olive spruce
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32 heat is surprisingly easy with eris cluster rocket bombs

river wing
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cluster rockets 😐

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hmm

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it is very strong. :B

outer cave
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How do you build lucifer?

olive spruce
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Zeus is always good

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I've heard Poseidon + Sea Storm is good too

river wing
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% scaling is okay. and with concentrated beam, it gets pretty amazing

turbid needle
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Does beowulf want stygian?

river wing
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if you go dio cast, yes

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Otherwise infernal aphro is the other popular option

turbid needle
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im not able to use titans blood in hades

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ive beaten hades twice so far

river wing
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in the aspect?

turbid needle
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yes

river wing
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do you have enough?

turbid needle
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i have around 10

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is there a specific amount of runs u need to complete to unlock it?

unborn pebble
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So a quick question, does Glacial Glare (Demeter, cast lasts longer and procs chill) also make the secondary crystal beams generated by Mirage Shot (Arty-Poseidon) proc Chill?

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Reason why I ask: I was lucky as all hell and got Crystal Beam, Rare Crop (Crystal Beam), rare PP, common Support Fire, and Fully Loaded before I left Tartarus. Given that I also have Stygian Soul active I have so many casts out at once I literally can't see how quickly the chill procs increase billy

hollow helm
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I think so, Mirage Shot creates a second Crystal Beam and there's isn't any reason it won't proc Chill from Glacial Glare

zenith orchid
#

Wow Rama Special spam went much better than expected

unborn pebble
#

In the time since I posted I got an extra cast and cast damage from Chaos, Crystal Clarity (Arty-Dem duo), and just now I got Arctic Blast billy

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I now have 4 casts that lasts for 6 seconds (2nd lvl common Glacial Glare), each of them generating two beams.

hollow helm
#

it's time to roll through the remaining encounters

unborn pebble
#

Yup. Hades won't know what hit him xD

#

EM4 won't matter. I'm using the Eris Rail xD

hollow helm
#

wait

#

sure, Rail boosts all damage

#

it's the closest Rail gets to a Cast aspect I think zaglol

unborn pebble
#

Yup xD

fair plinth
#

is there an ICD for Demeter's Arctic Blast (damage + effect clear after reaching 10 chill stacks)?

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Because it sounds like a ridiculous amount of damage on paper when combined with crystal beam + glacial glare and a couple of extra casts + crystal clarity

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crystal beam + glare already gives 5 stacks of chill per second EACH

unborn pebble
#

I can semi-reliably have 12 casts out

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common rapid reload from hermes

#

so that's 2.75s regentime

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And it seems like there might actually be an ICD on how quickly the casts can apply chill

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Or how quickly Arctic Blast can proc.

#

Because if I have full uptime on the casts (which I won't) that would be 24 beams that all give chill (more realistically 16).

fair plinth
#

if the ICD is per cast, then multiple casts still makes it stack ridiculously fast

unborn pebble
#

So that's an arctic proc every 0.2 seconds

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But I don't see it exploding that quickly

#

I'll see what happens VS Hades.

fair plinth
#

I don't think there is an ICD for the victim, since frost flourish on chiron bow always gives 8 stacks instantly

#

and that's about as fast as it gets

unborn pebble
#

Hmm, maybe the ICD is on Arctic?

#

'Cause if not it kinda needs to be.

fair plinth
#

tbh

#

depending on the ICD, it might be better to just pick up killing freeze and not take arctic

unborn pebble
#

I can guarantee I have at least 8 casts out at all times due to current boons. 80 procs per second means I theoretically get 8 arctic blast explosions per second.

fair plinth
#

epic killing freeze already does 80 damage per second

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without poms

half crater
#

arctic blast can proc very quickly

#

if there’s an ICD it’s pretty short

unborn pebble
#

Killing Freeze can't be pommed, IIRC?

fair plinth
#

yeah

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had an EM4 run yesterday where I got almost every demeter cast boon except arctic blast so I couldnt test it out

unborn pebble
#

I have some screenshots...

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I'll dump them after hades.

#

I want to show you my laser circus.

fair plinth
#

crystal beam + clarity, killing freeze, glacial glare, and ravenous will to top it off

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and 5 cast stones

unborn pebble
#

I have 1 cast less than that

fair plinth
#

killed EM4 hades without losing a single DD

unborn pebble
#

No killing freeze

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but I have arctic blast instead.

#

Ok, time to clap some EM4 Hades cheeks.

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Or get mine clapped if I screw it up <.<

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23:26.44 start time

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24:42.05 kill

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xD

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Invul phases included, that wasn't long for him to die xD

barren otter
steep lark
#

I've had him do that before too I love it

unborn pebble
#

Have you had him stuck waiting for Theseus to get to him while Theseus is off doing shuck all? Because that's also a hoot xD

warm snow
#

good build (any wep) for beating Charon in Tartarus?

cosmic hornet
#

bow/rail has easier time with him

#

athena dash really helps too

olive spruce
#

I've had good luck with chaos shield and arthur aspect as well

weak violet
#

Y’all know a build for Achilles?

olive spruce
#

hunting blades

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try to go for all the ares blade rift boons and artemis's legendary

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alternatively crystal beams + glacial glare + crystal clarity

weak violet
#

Yeah, i was going for demeter cast

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Welp i just got early crystal clarity and mirage shot

finite socket
#

Crystal Beam is also good

#

And poggers, you're in for a good run

eager whale
#

has anyone tried unhealthy fixation with passion dash on gilga?

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i heard unhealthy fixation has some sort of internal cooldown similar to zeus bolts, so i was wondering if using the dash would be better than having it on a fast attack/special

languid dagger
#

mmm, Aspect of Achilleus feels good on auto-attack build now

#

love what devs did with the special input for this aspect

turbid needle
#

what'd they do

languid dagger
#

the input is not clunky anymore

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like you press q and press it again and it feels smooth

#

really easy to use it as an extra dash

#

the damage numbers are obviously juicy

opal lodge
#

it used to be that the spear landing animation would have to finish before you could rush

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the change lets you buffer the rush so it happens right when the spear lands

final sundial
#

how much it costs to max out zagreus sword?

eager whale
#

5 blood

final sundial
#

alright, thanks

languid dagger
turbid needle
#

yo thats sick

river wing
#

i wish zag/hades have the same thing to pick up the spear

languid dagger
#

I ended up doing a decentish run with Achillius melee build

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but now I am wondering if Zeus is the answer for Achellius auto-attack

#

I did Athena + Ares

#

Anyone tried Zeus with Flurry Jab?

turbid needle
#

seems fun

opal lodge
#

zeus flurry jab is very good

#

the problem is you cant really "plan" to get flurry jab

languid dagger
#

and without it AA build is gonna be mediocre

#

I am thinking that Zeus on attack, Aphro on anything, their duo and Zeus' Call might be the best with Achilleus

#

That call gotta rip stuff with 150% damage bonus

#

waaaaait, does Achilleus affect Call's damage and Zeus' lightning damage even?

devout ether
#

I think it says Attack and Cast

#

His name is Achilles btw

languid dagger
#

does it boost Zeus' lightning damage

#

damn it

devout ether
#

No

cunning urchin
#

Only universal damage modifiers do that.

languid dagger
devout ether
#

I mean, it's an okay idea, it just wont be boosted by Achilles' bonus

#

Achilles is mostly treated as a Cast aspect for a reason

languid dagger
#

well, just managed an attack build on it and it was fun

opal lodge
#

zeus flurry jab is a great idea

#

you just usually start thunder signet

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and take cast if you dont get flurry jab start and take strike if you do

turbid needle
#

Does aspect of Eris bow proc Zeus special multiple times

#

I know the fists procs Zeus

devout ether
#

Eris is a rail, not a bow

turbid needle
#

The 4th bow

devout ether
#

That's Rama

turbid needle
#

Sorry

devout ether
#

What does it mean to "proc Zeus" here

#

Oh you said special

turbid needle
#

It shoots like 3 arrows right?

devout ether
#

The answer is no

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Lightning has a 0.2 second cooldown

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So it can't hit the same enemy three times

turbid needle
#

Ohh that’s why

devout ether
#

It can bounce to other enemies just fine though

opal lodge
#

it can proc on separate targets though

#

yeah

turbid needle
#

Low cd for separate targets nice

opal lodge
#

*no cd for separate targets

#

the cd is tracked per target iirc

hasty echo
#

I think I've become overly reliant on Chiron bow. I'm up to 10 heat with it and only 1 or 2 with the other weapons. Are there any fun aspect/boon combos I should try out? I have Posiedon, Achilles, Chaos, Demeter, and Eris unlocked with the most blood in Chiron and Chaos and 5 blood available.

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All the keepsakes unlocked as well

pine flax
#

Chaos + Ares, Zeus + ...Zeus? lol

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Eris + Zeus, Fists + Athena Attack

hasty echo
#

oh, I've been meaning to try a deflect fist build

#

totally forgot

pine flax
#

Zeus is also fun on Athena, but I like Athena more

#

I think Poseidon + Zeus cast is good too?

hasty echo
#

Trying to figure out if it's dumb to dump these 5 blood in the last upgrade of chiron

pine flax
#

Doesn't sound dumb if you like to play Chiron. Unless if you want to unlock other hidden aspects first

#

Since it adds base damage cause more arrows right?

languid dagger
#

Does Ice Wine stack with Scilintiating Feast?

opal lodge
#

yes

pine flax
#

Yes

languid dagger
#

Difficult choice in Styx: Ice Wine or Cold Fusion for Achilles hybrid build with Zeus attack and Zeus special and Aphro dio

rare kindle
#

Only duo cast boons that aren't mutually exclusive

languid dagger
#

I am thinking Cold Fusion

rare kindle
#

out of hunting blades/freezing vortex and cold embrace/crystal clarity

pine flax
#

Cold Fusion sounds better since you already have priv status right?

languid dagger
#

running family favourite

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but yeah, with perma call and a lot of zeus I am thinking Fusion too

#

dunno, Zeus felt awkward on Achilles with Flurry Jab

#

had a lot of support from boons and still felt meh

#

I guess Heart Rend should be the answer, right

still vigil
#

is it just me or does explosive return not wanna crit

pine flax
#

what cast do i pair with beo

#

and is infernal or stygian better

pallid glade
#

I like infernal with Dio cast

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explode in fog 😄

pine flax
#

ohhhh omg im like a living grenade

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@opal lodge what do you do if you're stygian

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i know you're a stygian beo stan

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LOL

opal lodge
#

dio cast works better with stygian

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since you dont have to wait for fog to expire

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you get higher deeps with aphro cast on infernal

pine flax
#

ok bright teach me beo stygian ways

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what else do i want besides dio cast

#

which duo boons

heady peak
#

Any recommendations on how to safely make it to the surface with ||guan yu|| for somebody who never touched anything but swords?

opal lodge
#

mirage shot

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scintillating feast

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avoid ice wine

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hope for chaos cast stone

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cry when you dont get it

turbid needle
#

ice wine is sick normally but I haven't had it on beo

opal lodge
#

theres a very annoying delay

turbid needle
#

also do not take tempest strike im never making that mistake again

pine flax
#

does stygian beo work without chaos cast stone lmao

turbid needle
#

yeah

opal lodge
#

it works it is just slightly more sad

heady peak
#

Thanks for the amazingly quick help. Much appreciated! 🙂

opal lodge
#

you always spend all your roll on chaos until you get cast stone though

pine flax
opal lodge
#

its worth a lot

pine flax
#

not guan yu

heady peak
opal lodge
#

for guan yu you can start with deadly flourish from artemis

heady peak
#

Then I will do so. Thank you once again.

pine flax
#

LMAO the angery react

proven osprey
#

yeah it's good

river wing
still vigil
#

wha?

#

why not qwq

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itd be even better

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unless it was super broken b4?

river wing
#

yes. and they probably just never reverted it.

#

even tho, i dont think it'd be too op op now

still vigil
#

ah

river wing
#

still a super strong hammer tho. can carry a run for sure

#

even at higher heat

pine flax
#

Does the return apply special effects?

still vigil
#

i havent really played much with the shield so i wasnt aware

#

most ive done was used the typical zeus/zeus build

languid dagger
opal lodge
#

scales w %

#

50 damage is also a lot

#

sword dash strike is only 30

languid dagger
#

well, I took it on Zeus/Zeus build and I took it on Chaos Shield with Doom build - that's why I probably didn't feel it

opal lodge
#

im assuming youre talking about lili's?

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lili also hasn't been playing much eris since 1.37 release iirc

#

almost nothing has changed for eris gameplaywise. most people will still be faster on eris. lili has an insane number of hours on every rail aspect

still vigil
#

im not sure that's how determinin a best aspect works owo''
also a lot of those WR runs ya see are after several failed attempts to get that one run

opal lodge
#

im sure if lili tried eris again they'd set a new WR on eris

tulip blaze
#

Eris is still likely the fastest

#

like, Eris is absurd

opal lodge
#

they were trying to do sub 7 with hestia for a while so i think thats what contributed more than anything else

rare kindle
#

You still want to spam special on Eris

tulip blaze
#

Lili's time was just trying to grind something other than Eris

opal lodge
#

^

#

lili also has insane times on zag rail and lucifer

#

does that mean that those are better than eris? likely not

tulip blaze
#

Lili could almost certainly go faster with Eris if they wanted to, and I imagine they will at some point

languid dagger
#

guys, I still can't figure out what's the best hammer for Arthur is

#

Breaching is always good and big aura is okay for higher heats

#

but what else?

#

shadow slash?

opal lodge
#

double edge/double nova

#

both super good

languid dagger
#

so try and play Arthru thru special?

#

interesting!

#

it's just it feels sloooooow without Hermes

slow dagger
#

spear with ||hades aspect|| and massive spin upgrade is crazy O_O

#

might put poseidon on it and see the chaos

turbid needle
#

yes I like covering my screen as well

hasty echo
#

Ok, doing an Eris run and already have Zeus attack, athena dash, pressure points, and ricochet fire from the hammer. What special/cast should I be looking for?

#

feel like I'm good for clearing rooms already so don't need posiedon

#

oooh, maybe aphrodite call

turbid needle
#

What does Exagryph's ||Lucifer|| aspect work best with? For now it seems Zeus is pretty good with it's legendary

haughty robin
#

Is there somewhere I can find exactly which boons are pommable and which aren't?

half light
#

all but legendaries and duo's are pom-able

haughty robin
#

You can't pom rare crop, though.

#

There are plenty of exceptions there.

languid dagger
#

I don't get it, I got Hestia, I got Legendary level 6 Deadly Strike, I got Heart Rend, but where is damage

#

I took piercing fire and richochet fire and got 62% attack damage boon from Chaos

#

WHERE IS DAMACH

haughty robin
#

Should've taken hunter dash too

opal lodge
#

you should be getting >1k crits with that

languid dagger
#

getting 2k

#

but where is damach!

opal lodge
#

theres ur dmg

#

you are getting meg summon damage per crit shot

#

that is a lot

slow dagger
#

DANG. aphrodite's "charmed" status is actually crazy against the champions of elysium, if you charm the minotaur right before his two-hit combo, he does 1500-2000ish damage to theseus for you

weak violet
languid dagger
#

I must be really bad at actually playing

opal lodge
#

super soaker is a meme lol

#

not an actual build

weak violet
#

A good meme dusa

languid dagger
#

I mean, what did I do wrong here?

#

wrong hammers?

midnight sky
#

Guys, do god keepsakes work in styx?

languid dagger
#

felt slooooooow

#

@opal lodge so where did I go wrong with the build?

opal lodge
#

looks good to me

languid dagger
#

do ricochet and piercing hammer do anything for it?

#

feels like shotgun with reduced bullets would be better

small stirrup
#

Did you notice any pierce ?

#

cause I feel that the ricochet would be prioritized

languid dagger
#

I did notice pierce cuz it was the first hammer

#

and it does pierce with empowered shot

opal lodge
#

ricochet and pierce are the two best hammers for it

languid dagger
#

but ricochet, not sure

opal lodge
#

lol

languid dagger
#

so I had pretty much best possible build

#

and still struggled

#

lol

opal lodge
#

if youre doing it right ricochet should double your dps

#

even moreso with hunters mark

languid dagger
#

my piloting sucks

serene quiver
#

guys so i just recently unlocked the weapon aspect, what do you think is the best weapon aspect for the rail gun, if my playstyle is spamming the specials?

languid dagger
serene quiver
#

noted!

languid dagger
#

Eris can do anything basically

serene quiver
#

i kinda used up all my titans blood because my friend says "all right, forget everything and do chiron bow"

#

so i did

languid dagger
#

Chiron is very strong

#

good choice

serene quiver
#

it's stupid but i got 3 hades run clear back to back

weak violet
#

Y’all know a good build for Hestia, since i was thinking on artemis attack, yet idk the rest like hammers?

languid dagger
#

just get more bloods by completing prophesimies

#

@weak violet I just did one, few messages above

serene quiver
#

just get more bloods by completing prophesimies
@languid dagger will do, thank you!

weak violet
#

Aight, gracias amigo!

languid dagger
#

pretty much close to perfect one but I still could not pilot it

serene quiver
#

oh my, that hestia vid's really good

#

i feel bad for using the chiron bow tbh, it's so stupid

#

i mean, i still die using it eventhough i'm only through low heat but, damn. It's really really strong

languid dagger
#

Chiron should be safe if you play it right

languid dagger
versed spoke
#

whats a good build for dash attacking a lot

#

I noticed that I can reroll hermes and increase my odds of getting + dash.

#

So, I'm wondering, for dashattacking, if its better to go with sword, spear or gauntlets

languid dagger
#

@versed spoke classical would be Nemesis with dash attack hammer

#

shield with dash hammer is also good

versed spoke
#

one time hermes gave me +3 dash, I could dash a total of 5 times, it was ridiculous

frail schooner
#

spear with dash hamme is also good

languid dagger
#

did they buff dash hammer btw

frail schooner
#

on?

languid dagger
#

on spear

frail schooner
#

no, but serrated point has always been good

languid dagger
#

what spear to use tho, Hades?

weak violet
#

Question: for the merciful end build on the fists, do you HAVE to have both athena special and dash with the ares attack to het the merciful end or do u only need only one of the either two things?

frail schooner
#

@languid dagger works with any spear except zag tbh

opal lodge
weak violet
#

Zag spear is icky dusa

opal lodge
#

but the dash is necessary to get full effectiveness

weak violet
#

Hm, yeah cuz i was thinking after i get the athena dash and special with the ares attack, once i get merciful end i could just drop the special and go for arte for the Demeter aspect.

opal lodge
#

sure

#

but it doesnt really matter tbh once you get ME

weak violet
#

I suppose, i have atleast reached 900+ with the demeter on special from the pressure point boon

#

So i was thinking how about that but instead of a 5+% chance of crits, how about a 20% chance instead?

#

Yet because i’ll still have pressure points for the attack, i might as well get an arte special once i get ME

stray olive
#

So how does that fist build work? Apply doom with attack, activate with dash?

#

Or doom with special

sage carbon
#

apply doom with attack and dash strike to activate doom

opal lodge
#

you can just dash strike

pastel hamlet
#

overall, which would generally be better for any given run in which you are simply trying to complete the game
gods pride, or gods legacy?
ive been investing in gods legacy because i had assumed it to be better, but im not so sure anymore

thorny dirge
#

pride's probably overall stronger, but legacy is imo more fun

#

some builds absolutely need duos to function and on those i would go with legacy instead

#

however

#

so it's situational

pastel hamlet
#

ahh understandable

#

i myself havent gotten too far into the game yet, simply choosing what weapon has the +20% darkness and choosing a heat level high enough to get more bounties, any suggestions on how to "look for" or know builds more or is it just time and experience?

opal lodge
#

mostly time and experience

#

what i did was go by which gods i had in my pool and try to figure out what duos were available in my head

#

and boons

turbid needle
rotund ether
#

whats a good build for ||arthur||?

halcyon solstice
#

A little salth

#

Was doing a boonless run and got a 4sack in styx and had to have a god boon

#

So no boonless text :(

turbid needle
#

were u running fated auth

opal lodge
#

god i love zag shield

turbid needle
#

i wanna try tempest flourish on talos

languid dagger
opal lodge
#

% attack boon is best because of the +15 base damage boost

languid dagger
#

like Artemis attack + dash strike + Aphro dash?

turbid needle
opal lodge
#

^

languid dagger
#

weird caster hybrid )

opal lodge
#

pulverizing/mino rush/charged shot all goated hammers

halcyon solstice
#

Im not sure what fated Arthur is, I just had on sisyphus and went full boonless but had to take a boon right at the end :(

languid dagger
#

also pulverizing doesn't work with dash strike and charged blow, does it?

turbid needle
#

fated authority is the last purple mirror ability

#

it doesnt work w dash strike sadly

halcyon solstice
#

THAT

#

WPULD HAVE BEEN SMART

#

I forgot to switch it and still had fated persuasion

languid dagger
turbid needle
#

save all ur rolls foir styx and just purge boons u get in each biome

halcyon solstice
turbid needle
#

try not to get more than 3 boons per biome

languid dagger
#

so what is the point of that hammer, lol

turbid needle
#

did u watch the vid

languid dagger
#

yep, it's not bad

proud topaz
#

i don't know if this is the right channel, but should rerolls that give you the exact same 3 options be considered a bug or no?

turbid needle
#

nah u just got unlucky

proud topaz
#

i mean,, it seems kinda counter the point if you spend something for at least one of the options to change and it doesn't

turbid needle
#

its random

proud topaz
#

i get that about randomness, believe me

opal lodge
#

pulverizing is also one of the best shield hammers for non beowulf aspects

#

doesnt matter that it doesnt apply to dash strikes

turbid needle
#

i had basically no reason to bull rush that run it was awesome

torpid abyss
#

K so

#

I have a demeter + chaos boon

#

For attack

#

Should i go for Hoarding slash or flurry slash

#

Or world splitter i guess

small stirrup
#

Flurry slash would work well with demeter since you are running attack

#

Hoarding slash basically makes you keep all your money and you jusst never spend it which isn't fun (still a good hammer though)

torpid abyss
#

Does it work with other boons the way i think it does?

#

Or is the bonus damage applied after boons...

small stirrup
#

Hoarding slash?

#

how do you think it works?

torpid abyss
#

Say, you have 100 gold

#

5 damage + boons bonus damage

#

Let's say you have +100% attack

#

It doubles

small stirrup
#

Hmmm

#

Not sure if the bonus is added before the boon bonus or after

opal lodge
#

its added after

torpid abyss
#

Damm

#

Well, how about world splitter?

#

I have like 144% attack bonus

small stirrup
#

Not really a fan of the chop

#

but that's just my personal preference squirtnya

#

I'm sure some peeps like it a lot

torpid abyss
#

That's about 210 or so

#

Vs the 60 or so from the flurry

small stirrup
#

But one is faster

opal lodge
#

if you looked only at single hit damage arthur would be the best weapon in the game

#

unfortunately single hit doesnt matter as long as you kill the thing

torpid abyss
#

@small stirrup @opal lodge I did it

coarse moss
#

got a question, effects that increase Attack(left mouse), do they apply to spear spin?

small stirrup
torpid abyss
#

I beat 32 heat

#

With Zagreus sword

small stirrup
#

Oh damn

opal lodge
#

gz

small stirrup
#

Nice!

torpid abyss
#

I already went past the screen...

small stirrup
#

Awww, well you could always post the one in the admin chamber!

torpid abyss
#

I spose

#

But dang it felt great

#

Now there is no more game

#

(?

#

But, makes me think...

#

How much ambrosia is "safe" to trade?

lime lynx
#

What are you trading it for? I had traded about 4 for titan blood and I havent had issue so far. There are a lot of quests that give you either ambrosia or blood.

#

I guess it depends on what in the game you value more?

still vigil
#

i got an epic aphro and legend on Gilgamesh in 4 chambers and died in a trial to homing Saviour witches

#

i wanted to cry

torpid abyss
#

I guess, i'll eventually try to 100% it all

#

But i haven't maxed all aspects yet

final sundial
#

Who's the worst god/goddess to make angry? (talkin 'bout the double boons chambers)

unkempt pagoda
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demeter and aphrodite, imo (with poseidon a close third)

torpid abyss
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Personally it's a tie between Athena and Demeter

unkempt pagoda
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the rest are easy enough

torpid abyss
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Athena is problematic mostly in Elysium

halcyon oar
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I thought the easiest was Athena

final sundial
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I think that depends on the enemies

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imagine seeing one of those eye things regenerating while impervious and you there being able to do nothing residentzag

torpid abyss
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Or worse

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Regenerating into a shield

versed spoke
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what weapon has the highest dps, eris?

final sundial
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Armoured Shield Guys are the worst

torpid abyss
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Common Divine Dash > Heroic Divine Dash

halcyon oar
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The best build i have ever accidentally made uses comon divine dash

final sundial
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I use divine dash a lot

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comes handy against the big orb witches

halcyon oar
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i just used it as a way to get the doom effect to go off early with the duo

torpid abyss
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Yeah like, it's a neat boon

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Definetly S tier

lime lynx
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why is common > heroic?

final sundial
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Heroic has a better color

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obviously the reason

halcyon oar
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damage doesnt really matter im assuming

torpid abyss
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Yeah also

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Thinning the boon pool makes you more likely to get duos/legendaries

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It's a big perk of focusing on 1/2 gods

halcyon oar
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thats such a minor thing that it doesnt really matter

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but i mean i guess technically it makes common better

heady peak
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Just unlocked the hidden aspect of the sword and tried it out. Lv9 heroic Heartbreak Strike (+192%) pretty much annihilated everything. 😄

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Also something perhaps interesting: Heroic Side Hustle is +19 gold

final sundial
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I'd like to see a picture of how Jury Summons 5 looks like

frail schooner
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take the chaos curse with js3

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they’re multiplicative with each other

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1.6*1.8 = JS9

final sundial
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I'm imagining 6 charions ramming at you and i'm scared.

languid dagger
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spawn 205 witches - suddenly stonks of Athena 5-dash Gilgamesh go up

royal helm
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That's really dumb that they are multiplicative, if so

frail schooner
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  • heroic greatest reflex
final sundial
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read it as greatest flex for a second.

proven osprey
cunning urchin
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@proven osprey nice flex.

rotund ether
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best boons for ||arthur||?

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i have artemis/hermes but idk D:

unkempt pagoda
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aphro or artemis attack

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shadow slash, greater consecration, or double edge for hammers

rotund ether
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thx ❤️

languid dagger
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wish supergiant added more hammers for secret aspects

sonic mural
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wish theyd add hammers for each individual aspect not only the secret ones

languid dagger
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That would be too much to ask also might funnel certain aspects into certain hammers more

final sundial
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Wish we had a weapon to bonk people

languid dagger
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but damn Rama and Artur hammers are underwhelming

sonic mural
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arthur is decent since all regular sword aspects are kinda meh in the first place

royal helm
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Rama with Triple shot is underwhelming? shadegrief

sonic mural
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he means the hidden - exclusive aspect

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the one that creates an explosion

royal helm
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Oh, Repulse Shot

languid dagger
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more like repulsive

sonic mural
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meh its like a budget poseidon dash

solid grail
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Hey everyone I'm having a bit of trouble with aspect of Beowulf could anyone give me some recommendations for builds for it?

lime lynx
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Does the aspect of Demeter build similarly to Talos? I usually just fish for ME on Talos.

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The extra hits with charged cutter still count as special and are not impacted by strike buffs correct?

languid dagger
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I think demeter is usually played with Zeus on AA and smth chunky on special

languid dagger
lime lynx
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Does it have more attack speed?

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I'll check

languid dagger
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then other gloves?

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I don't think so

lime lynx
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Then why zeus? it's a flat damage right?

languid dagger
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I am guessing because of base damage of each hit is so low

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like 15

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it's better to have additive flat from Zeus attack

lime lynx
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oh ok

languid dagger
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plus aoe ofc from lightning bouncing

tulip blaze
rotund ether
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did one run with demeter fists and ares attack/poseidon special testing kinetic launcher and jesus lol

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things melted

solid grail
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@tulip blaze wow thankyou :)

cunning urchin
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And Talos is not the best aspect for the build.

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ME on Demeter Aspect is the speedrun meta, but they reset a lot if they don't get it early + Divine Dash.

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The Special gives you good burst damage early in the run and can sometimes be good even late in the run.

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But if you want a consistent build, you start with the Owl Pendant for Divine Dash or Divine Strike and then have plenty of routes from there.

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Divine Strike + Deadly Flourish for Deadly Reversal and Support Fire with either Hunter Dash or Divine Dash.

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Divine Dash + Lightning Strike and just focus on more lighting boons (+ maybe Heartbreak Flourish or Aphrodite's Aid for Smoldering Air).

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Divine Dash + Divine Flourish + Curse of Agony for ME if you happen to RNG into that because why not.

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Resqtoaster also likes Drunken Strike a lot, which I still need to look into more, but I do trust him on that because he knows what's up.

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Having Deflect on either Attack or Dash on Malphon is huge and makes everything easier.

cosmic hornet
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right i keep forgetting to math out artemis vs zeus attack on talos
i assume zeus is still better?

cunning urchin
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Lightning Strike can't get you Mirage Shot.

cosmic hornet
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...right i keep forgetting that talos is cast hybrid

final sundial
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Are the erebus gates worth it?

cosmic hornet
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in tartarus, yes if you're confident

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its a double or nothing gamble

unkempt pagoda
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at low or moderate heats, it's fine

turbid needle
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golden touch is still recommended if I'm trying to buy the stix blood and diamond, right?

cosmic hornet
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yep

turbid needle
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pierced butterfly is a flat increase of damage that persists right, but only increments if you clear the encounter without getting hit?

lofty spoke
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any ideas for meme builds?

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afk build for e.g

cosmic hornet
turbid needle
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got it

cosmic hornet
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meme builds uh....
gilgamesh blade dash?

turbid needle
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any tips on lucifer's hellfire, or just don't use lucifer?

sonic mural
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same as eris build, but worse

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or supersoaker as a meme

frail schooner
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athena special + triple bomb or greater inferno

tulip blaze
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Arty special is also solid

cosmic hornet
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zeus special will turn the bomb into proximity mines

coarse moss
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question about Divine Strike. if I'm punching enemy and then they hit me but it deflected, i don't take damage?

cosmic hornet
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i believe so

coarse moss
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that would be really cool

pine flax
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does levels in beo make a big diff

versed spoke
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does heat affect the rarity of hermes's boons? He gave me a +3 dash once (5 dash total)

Then I removed the heat and he only gives +1 dash

pine flax
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Nah afaik its all self imposed

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btw what good with zeus shield besides zeus special?

cunning urchin
cunning urchin
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You will take damage if they hit you on the same frame that you would Deflect. So standing in front of a spear trying to deflect it won't go well, for example.

coarse moss
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lets say i am punching last boss when he decides to spin. this is not a good idea?

cunning urchin
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But if you strafe the attack, you can Deflect it from the side.

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Spin is impossible to Deflect.

coarse moss
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ah i see

cunning urchin
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You'll have to i-frame the spin with an empty dash or with a call or summon.

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Any call will give you i-frames on activation, same for summons.

pine flax
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How many iframes does dash give? It feels like not very many

cunning urchin
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Helpful when you're caught off-guard with your dash on cooldown.