#h1-builds-and-combat | Supergiant Games | Page 755

royal helm Nov 30, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Splitting Headache would be like 7.5 * +200% average damage multiplier (+15%)

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 3:56 AM

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? splitting HA is an average 15% global damage multiplier assuming max hangover stacks

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they do different things imo

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splitting headache lets anything crit

woven delta Nov 30, 2020, 3:58 AM

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It's like Pressure Points

cosmic hornet Nov 30, 2020, 3:58 AM

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just looking at attack, its 7.5% difference

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can hangover stacks crit

woven delta Nov 30, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Though honestly, between Heart Rend and Splitting Headache, you also qualify for that Aphrodite/Dionysus duo boon too

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Which boosts the amount Hangover can stack on weak enemies

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So really, between all three of those duo boons, why not get as many of them as possible?

rare kindle Nov 30, 2020, 4:00 AM

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yeah, but it's hard to get multiple duos even if you qualify

cosmic hornet Nov 30, 2020, 4:00 AM

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yeah

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 4:00 AM

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getting all of them? pretty hard

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gunning for all of them isnt a bad idea though

woven delta Nov 30, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Hence "as many of them"

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 4:01 AM

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usually when you go for one duo you should have another secondary one in mind

cosmic hornet Nov 30, 2020, 4:01 AM

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and if you want the combo you need dio or aphro on dash

woven delta Nov 30, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Or on cast/call

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Though Dio works best on attack/special

cosmic hornet Nov 30, 2020, 4:02 AM

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yeah and you want artemis on your main damage

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so i could imagine this working on rama
or demeter with artemis special

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though if we're going to go for mad combos might as well just go ME

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 4:03 AM

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well if this is really what you want to go for

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you coudl just do dem fists with drunken strike, deadly flourish and passion dash

woven delta Nov 30, 2020, 4:03 AM

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~~NGL this entire discussion my mind has been using Chiron bow as a reference point, make of that what you will~~

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 4:03 AM

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but you might as well just do lightning strike and not require 3 duos for your build

cosmic hornet Nov 30, 2020, 4:04 AM

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yeah lmao

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 4:04 AM

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chiron you could run as a low tolerance build with true shot since your cast doesn't matter

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but i wouldnt force artemis

woven delta Nov 30, 2020, 4:04 AM

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You can just throw Artemis on cast or call in that situation

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 4:11 AM

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hmm. looking at some numbers rn. deadly reversal with divine strike looks much more tempting compared to heart rend with deadly strike.

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 4:12 AM

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in what way

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 4:12 AM

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damage output is similar. you get free deflect tho.
assuming 100% uptime for both

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 4:12 AM

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oh on arthur?

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 4:12 AM

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on everything

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 4:13 AM

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but nemesis exists

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 4:13 AM

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u know what i mean 😐

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 4:14 AM

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i actually do not haha

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rama and chiron too probably both prefer heart rend

royal helm Nov 30, 2020, 4:15 AM

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100% uptime is much harder to get on Deadly Reversal

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 4:16 AM

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ofc i mean everything like "everything". i know coronatch, nem exist etc

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 4:17 AM

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heart rend is probably better for the fist builds that run it too

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spears

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GY in particular

sonic mural Nov 30, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Beo shield heartrend is better i think?

royal helm Nov 30, 2020, 4:19 AM

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It seems like it'd be hard to set up guaranteed deflects on Beo for Deadly Reversal... sounds like a not great build...

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So yeah, Heartrend is better, I think

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:10 AM

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https://tiermaker.com/create/hades--all-daedalus-hammers-82372 I made this thing so you can rank every hammer

TierMaker

Create a Hades | All Daedalus Hammers Tier List

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:11 AM

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lol i barely know half the icons

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:11 AM

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THATS WHAT I SAID

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cin you see

pliant anvil Nov 30, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Half? Damn, that's like 30% more than me 😛

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:12 AM

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the more outstanding ones, i'd know. but others are just so similar

pliant anvil Nov 30, 2020, 5:12 AM

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I know maybe 20%

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:12 AM

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i would not recognize spear hammers to save my life

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i know shield and eris because anyheat lol

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but the others

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ew

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:13 AM

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@opal lodge die

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:13 AM

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I play bow a lot, can't recognize any of the special hammer xD

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:13 AM

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listen once you play RTA enough you pick up these things

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:13 AM

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RTA gamer btw

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:13 AM

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I still dont know bow hammers

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just use the wiki

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:13 AM

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i only recognize the hammers i pick bouldy

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:14 AM

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some one should make this a quiz

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rather than a tier list

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I would do that quiz xD

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:14 AM

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guys come on

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I did this to keep things neat

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:14 AM

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lmao I appreciate it. I'll have to learn the hammers though

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:15 AM

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if you want I will list every name in order in the description

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you are so right the bow hammers are so indistinct

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:15 AM

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yep a quiz would be intersting 🤔

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:15 AM

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no worry

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I finished the tier list

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https://imgur.com/7JVkOea

Imgur

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yw

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:16 AM

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what's that

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:16 AM

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guess

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:17 AM

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hmmm

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:17 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392070250511728653/782837702155436032/99.png ok try to name this one

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no cheating

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:17 AM

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oh god

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:17 AM

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explosive?

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Foxhope, your guess?

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:18 AM

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sniper shot?

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:18 AM

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It was explosive

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:18 AM

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damn

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one more

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I like this

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:18 AM

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i guess fox's one was the projectile that does 30 damage thingy?

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whatever it's called

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:18 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392070250511728653/782837998886453279/100.png

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Oh why

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Perfect shot?

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This is hard

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:19 AM

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it's like, all the other weapons I can pretty much tell what they are

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the god damn bow though

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:19 AM

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he looks like he is pulling the bow really hard, hmm

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maybe triple?

rare kindle Nov 30, 2020, 5:19 AM

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I don't look at the icons that hard

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Nah triple is different

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:20 AM

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ohh easier poewrshot

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it has to be right

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Aka perfect shot?

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:20 AM

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wrong, it's charged volley dusa

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:20 AM

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D: D:

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Kidding

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See, no one knows what the hammers are

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:20 AM

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for most of the other weapons it's way easier

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:21 AM

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spear is hard too...

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Fists looks p hard to me, too

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And the Luci specific hammer

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:21 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392070250511728653/782838701302349834/latest.png

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:21 AM

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is that mino rush

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i realize i literally sorted this 5 minutes ago

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:22 AM

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gfdi you literally just used this

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:22 AM

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i dont remember honestly

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is it?

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:22 AM

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DisappointmentChampion

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:22 AM

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yea that one is more obvious with the horns

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:22 AM

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I didn't even see that lol

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okay

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:22 AM

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IS IT?

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:22 AM

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yess

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:22 AM

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do i win something 🙂

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:23 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392070250511728653/782839069356851260/150.png ok bright is going to answer this one immediately so he is banned

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:23 AM

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that looks like charged flight

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:23 AM

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nope

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it's dashing flight

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:24 AM

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D: it's impossiberu

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:24 AM

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I literally downloaded the bow images like 30 mins ago and I can't remember which is which

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the sword ones are easy

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:24 AM

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fist and rail are easier

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spear is hard

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lucifer is hard too

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:25 AM

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bow is

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:25 AM

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lucifer is ez

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serve em up

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i bet i can get them

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:25 AM

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impossible dark souls bloodborne Gaiden Mode

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not being able to directly paste images makes this a lot more tedious

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392070250511728653/782839976966488084/latest.png

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you have a 20% chance of getting this right

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:27 AM

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i know what this is 🙂

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okay maybe lucifer isn't that hard

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:27 AM

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it's called god devil thing shooting lasers

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BRIGHT
GUESS

frail schooner Nov 30, 2020, 5:28 AM

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eternal chamber

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:28 AM

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aight nvm

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🙂

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:28 AM

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wdym

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nvm

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wtf

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:28 AM

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is it flash fire?

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:28 AM

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https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hades_gamepedia_en/images/3/30/Pulverizing_Blow.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/100?cb=20181230000227

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:28 AM

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yes

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easy, pulverizing

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:28 AM

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easy he says

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:29 AM

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yes because it is literally pulverizing blow

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:29 AM

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https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hades_gamepedia_en/images/3/3d/Dashing_Wallop.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/100?cb=20181230212836

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:29 AM

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wallop

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:29 AM

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but so is so many other shield hammers tho. they all look pulverizing

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:29 AM

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see I am a beo veteran I know this stuff

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:29 AM

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https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hades_gamepedia_en/images/d/d0/Explosive_Return.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/100?cb=20181230000642

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:29 AM

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explosive return

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it said it in the link you posted

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lol

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:29 AM

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yeah don't cheat

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:30 AM

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it popped up on my screen

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I couldn't do anything about it

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:30 AM

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I posted 3 very similar looking hammers

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:30 AM

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I knew what it was anyway

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listen I am beowulf professional gamer

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I know these

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same with sword

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:31 AM

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https://imgur.com/2968oB4

Imgur

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:31 AM

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a general boon quiz would be fun, just pick a random boon

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either twin shot or flurry fire

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I think twin shot comes from the left

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so flurry shot

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:31 AM

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bet it's twin 😉

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:32 AM

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https://imgur.com/bhGlNuj

Imgur

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:32 AM

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that one is twin

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:32 AM

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is the last one piercing?

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:32 AM

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which one is twin, which one is flurry

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:32 AM

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im lost

frail schooner Nov 30, 2020, 5:32 AM

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have fun with hermes boons

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:32 AM

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LOL

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:32 AM

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first one is flurry

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:32 AM

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one is twin one is flurry

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:32 AM

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i can do hermes boons i think

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:32 AM

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i think hermes will be easier tbh

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:32 AM

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second one is twin defo

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:32 AM

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i see them very often

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:32 AM

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but flurry cast and bad news have the same icon

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:33 AM

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cin is correct, first is twin second is flurry

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:33 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392070250511728653/782841644516638720/149.png

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:33 AM

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but what the hell SGG

frail schooner Nov 30, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Ive never gotten a hermes legendary in like 150 runs

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:33 AM

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did they swapped the two hammers?

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:33 AM

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😐 flurry looks like twin

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1% chance dusa

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:33 AM

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did they goof?

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:33 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392070250511728653/782841807658549288/149.png

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one is flurry cast

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one is bad news

frail schooner Nov 30, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Is chaos 1% also

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I never got her legendary

weak violet Nov 30, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Isnt that like cast succession or something?

frail schooner Nov 30, 2020, 5:34 AM

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And i take chaos every run

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:34 AM

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they look the same right

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but are they?

frail schooner Nov 30, 2020, 5:35 AM

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does bad news just do almost nothing on blade rift/crystal beam

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:35 AM

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idk chaos rates. but since you need at least one chaos boon first. seems pretty hard.

frail schooner Nov 30, 2020, 5:35 AM

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or is it op because not lodging

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:35 AM

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it should increase the entire thing

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:35 AM

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the answer is yes the icons for flurry cast and bad news are literally the exact same

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:35 AM

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it's good cause not lodging

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:35 AM

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i don't know why, maybe they got lazy

weak violet Nov 30, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Yo, whats the max lvl for each aspect?

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:35 AM

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5

weak violet Nov 30, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Ah ok

frail schooner Nov 30, 2020, 5:36 AM

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you should try using aspects that are good at level 1

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:36 AM

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oh god artemis boons would be hard if she wasn't used so often

frail schooner Nov 30, 2020, 5:36 AM

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~~like GY~~

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:36 AM

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I'd like to see a boon quiz where it just selects a random boon image

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including hammers

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and you have to guess

rare kindle Nov 30, 2020, 5:37 AM

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I've gotten offered chaos' legendary exactly once but it doesn't count for the prophecy if you die before it transforms into the blessing

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:37 AM

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"Oh you're a hades player? Name every boon"

rare kindle Nov 30, 2020, 5:37 AM

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and that run was not going very well, so I died shortly after picking it

frail schooner Nov 30, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Do you basically need egg to get the legendary

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:37 AM

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I've gotten it no egg

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in some speedruns

barren otter Nov 30, 2020, 5:37 AM

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here is my hammer tier list, thanks for the template
https://imgur.com/P9kpjLA

Imgur

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:37 AM

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chaos

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:37 AM

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and like a chad I didn't take it

frail schooner Nov 30, 2020, 5:38 AM

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was that with God’s Leggacy

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:38 AM

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all of them on one tiermaker

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:38 AM

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why is eternal chamber so low

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:38 AM

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i am scared

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:38 AM

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based tier list

rare kindle Nov 30, 2020, 5:38 AM

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yeah, an extra death defiance doesn't seem that good, I'd take extra damage first

barren otter Nov 30, 2020, 5:38 AM

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river wing why is eternal chamber so low

the damage ramp up is important, giving it up for infinite ammo really destroys your damage output

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:38 AM

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I took a glance but I mostly agree

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:39 AM

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how else are you going to play super soaker

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:C

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:39 AM

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though triple shot should be always take imo

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:39 AM

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where is rocket bomb

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oh

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always take

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:39 AM

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also dash nova tier xD

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:39 AM

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colossus is solid

frail schooner Nov 30, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Cursed slash should be always take

rare kindle Nov 30, 2020, 5:39 AM

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any hammers that beowulf shield really wants?

frail schooner Nov 30, 2020, 5:39 AM

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If you get hit it’s your fault

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:40 AM

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I hate you

rare kindle Nov 30, 2020, 5:40 AM

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the beowulf exclusive looks solid, at least

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:40 AM

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frail schooner If you get hit it’s your fault

but the healing only matters if you get hit

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so what's the point

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it's so counter intuitive

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also it doesn't even work on dash strikes

frail schooner Nov 30, 2020, 5:40 AM

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it’s so you can take more chaos gates obv

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:40 AM

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I-

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actually

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want to murder something

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:41 AM

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frail schooner it’s so you can take more chaos gates obv

4 head problems require 4 head solutions.

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:41 AM

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hold on

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making my own list

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:42 AM

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cin zag sword 51 heat is with cursed slash it must be good

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:44 AM

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zag sword on 54 heat is with flurry

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automatic S tier

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same with Repulse Shot for Rama

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:46 AM

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going to be very picky with always take

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:47 AM

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I mean hammer is aspect dependent. So hard to find anyone that is always take.

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The only one I can think of is Breaching Cross.

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:48 AM

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take the bow special hammers

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where should I put concentrated volley

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or relentless

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they are great on chiron

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but pretty meh on all the others

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except maybe rama

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:49 AM

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hammer is aspect dependent.

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Maybe a separate tier called "Situational S"?

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instead of just S

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:52 AM

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apparently breaching isnt a must take on gilga

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:52 AM

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It's not?

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:52 AM

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not according to people who play more gilga than i do

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it's still good

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but rending claws seems better

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Other than rending claws?

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:55 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392070250511728653/782847209317335060/my-image.png I tried

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I put targeting a tier above cluster because targeting is better for non-eris

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rocket is pretty nice even not on eris

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Explosive shot :(

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:58 AM

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opal lodge apparently breaching isnt a must take on gilga

I buy it. I am not too well versed in Gilga

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 5:58 AM

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explosive shot is absolute garbage

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Double Edge isn't a must take on Arthur imo, you are better off with Breaching Slash (which is B tier at best for other aspects).

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:00 AM

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you mean shadow slash

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also it's almost always take, being incredibly powerful on 2 aspects and a nice supplement to damage on the third is good enough

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:01 AM

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dash nova isnt that bad honestly

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:01 AM

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if you've been playing for a while it really is that bad

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 6:01 AM

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I mean it's also a meme target.

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Much better in beta branch

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 6:02 AM

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It's better now than it used to be for sure.

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Hell it's not even the same thing anymore

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:02 AM

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its not run ending

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Remember Snap Nova?

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:02 AM

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I think it still does more harm than good

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 6:02 AM

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I member

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:02 AM

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I don't like it

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but if you want to jump around and nova, go ahead

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:02 AM

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I cant stand world splitter

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:03 AM

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world splitter is... like the default sword combo but a bit better

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:03 AM

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no arc

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:03 AM

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world splitter double nova is very good if youre doing no dash zag sword 🙂

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:03 AM

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I would put flurry and world splitter in does almost nothing but that would be boring

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 6:03 AM

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world splitter should be the third sword combo

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instead of the push away

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:03 AM

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fun fact: world splitter activates breaking wave lmao

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:03 AM

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sword is relegated to dash strikes

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:03 AM

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1 2 special is better but spamming dash attack is better than both

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:04 AM

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this is also something that is only relevant in no dash builds

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 6:04 AM

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turbid needle 1 2 special is better but spamming dash attack is better than both

yeah because the standard combo is kinda ass

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and double edge exists

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:04 AM

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double nova is pretty solid, since on a heart rend build you take aphro or arte special

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which both are good damage

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and not knocking enemies back can be good

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:05 AM

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I willingly took explosive shot on rama and it was funny bc I basically just had a melee weapon at that point

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:06 AM

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rama always is a melee weapon

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:06 AM

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yeah

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but explosive shot removed the option

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:06 AM

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power shots are massive damage, making them take longer is horrible

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also serving as a pseudo range down

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:06 AM

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power shots on rama take 10 years

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:07 AM

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even on the other bows explosive shot isn't very good since you dont have any business being in melee range

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:07 AM

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power shots are the way on rama

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explosive shot is terribad on every bow

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:07 AM

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yeah which is why I put it in the sabotages your run tier

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:07 AM

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explosive shot takes away everything good about bow

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:07 AM

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its like fully charging a spin attack then waiting longer

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how u not gonna get hit

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:07 AM

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charged shot is shield's rocket bomb

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:07 AM

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just get good lmao

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but actually its just about picking spots

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:08 AM

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however it really only shines on beowulf

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:08 AM

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charged shot is how you get value on rama

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:08 AM

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I would much rather spam dashes like crazy

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:08 AM

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I mean the hammer

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for shield

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charged shot

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:08 AM

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I had charged shot with the +500% bull rush thing

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so I basically just had a bow

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:08 AM

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minotaur rush is absolutely horrible

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it is one of the closest hammers to just doing nothing

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:09 AM

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just time 4head

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:09 AM

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I think the "does almost nothing" tier was a good addition

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it takes so, so long

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:09 AM

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if u can time a power shot u can time minotaur rush

rare kindle Nov 30, 2020, 6:09 AM

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minotaur rush looks useless

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:09 AM

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and rush already does good damage

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:09 AM

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no mino rush is good

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just not on beowulf

rare kindle Nov 30, 2020, 6:09 AM

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who has the time to time power shots?

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:10 AM

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mino rush is probably S-tier on zag shield

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:10 AM

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only one other shield uses rush

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:10 AM

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or at least A tier

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:10 AM

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what

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:10 AM

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yes

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:10 AM

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oh

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:10 AM

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ask bablo

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or look at speedtech lmao

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:10 AM

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ok fine

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you win

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:11 AM

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its ok it's only for zag shield

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small victory

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:11 AM

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wait why isn't it as good on chaos

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:12 AM

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ive never tried cursed slash w arthur

rare kindle Nov 30, 2020, 6:12 AM

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I have

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:12 AM

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it's less bad than the other swords

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:12 AM

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shadow slash and greater consecration are my go tos

rare kindle Nov 30, 2020, 6:12 AM

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I think it's one of the worse swords for arthur IIRC

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:12 AM

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the only problem is arthur attack slow, so you need to hit multiple enemies to really stack the healing

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:13 AM

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ye

rare kindle Nov 30, 2020, 6:13 AM

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speed wasn't fast enough to beat final boss

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:13 AM

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but it's hard to not hit multiple enemies

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:13 AM

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but it does way better with cursed slash

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than the other sword

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s

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cursed slash + flurry is legitimately insane

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:13 AM

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bc its usually less reliant on dash attack

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:13 AM

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if you get cursed flurry, you win

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no questions

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:13 AM

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my first time making it past the boys I had that combo lol

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:13 AM

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solid cairn wait why isn't it as good on chaos

you want to special a lot more

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:13 AM

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true

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:13 AM

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died to dad bc it was my first time fighting him ever

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:13 AM

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zag shield seems really fun lol

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:13 AM

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so sudden rush or explosive return are go to's

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:14 AM

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I would use it if not for beo

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:14 AM

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that is indeed a unique opinion i think

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:14 AM

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wdym unique opinion

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it's a lot more aggro than other shields

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:14 AM

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beo is the only shield I actually like

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have not used beyblade yet though

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:15 AM

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truth be told I haven't done much with zeus shield

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actually I don't think I have done a single run with zeus shield ever

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:15 AM

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I really wanna try out Hestia but I cant use rail

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:15 AM

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in my over 300 hours

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:16 AM

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ill probably start a new file or something

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 6:19 AM

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😮 why a new file just to rail

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:20 AM

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bc I want to keep this forever lol https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328246239160434691/782853485120323624/unknown-89__01__01.png

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:21 AM

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oh I know a speedrunner with like a 30+ minute best time on spear who refuses to touch it

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:21 AM

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I am not a fan of spear

rare kindle Nov 30, 2020, 6:22 AM

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I think spear is my least favorite weapon

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:22 AM

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like every run ive had with it has been annoying/slow in some way

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:22 AM

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agh

rare kindle Nov 30, 2020, 6:22 AM

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the triple jab hammer is really awkward and I don't special much

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:22 AM

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guan MF Yu

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:22 AM

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not trying to trash on it

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just not my thing

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:23 AM

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im angy

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i got a chamber 4 heart rend on GY

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and somehow finished with a 13 minute time after some stuff

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:26 AM

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I wuv nemesis

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:27 AM

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nemesis is just melee zag bow

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prove me wrong

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:28 AM

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nemesis fits my playstyle of constant extreme aggression very well

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:29 AM

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turbid needle I wuv nemesis

true

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:29 AM

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opal lodge nemesis is just melee zag bow

die

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:29 AM

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now u can see why I dont like spear

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:29 AM

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rama is just chiron but reverse

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:30 AM

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I had stacking+impending doom on rama special

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I didnt even need to use my main attack

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:30 AM

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at least you have to time your dash strikes with zag bow bouldy

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:30 AM

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opal lodge at least you have to time your dash strikes with zag bow <:bouldy:52332911693463...

another ping out of anger

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:30 AM

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LOL

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:31 AM

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are you saying zag bow is better than nemesis

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:31 AM

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im saying zag bow is just as engaging as nemesis dusa

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:32 AM

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I actually... Why do I talk to you?

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:32 AM

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I like to mash

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:32 AM

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this is the definition of insanity

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doing the same thing over and over again and expecting something to change

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in this case talking to bright

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well rama is just better zag bow

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so therefore

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nemesis is rama

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but rama is also arthur

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:33 AM

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im ok with that

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:33 AM

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so rama is nemesis and arthur

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:33 AM

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to hurt me youd have to insult beowulf

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:33 AM

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so arthur is zag bow

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:33 AM

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which i know youd never do

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Beowulf is horrible

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...

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ON OPPOSITE DAY

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squirtnya

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:34 AM

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I like using beo's normal attack to hit cornered enemies

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:34 AM

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that is what special is for

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:34 AM

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just bonk bonk bonk

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especially if it's the last enemy in a room

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:34 AM

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attack beowulf is pretty cursed

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sounds like something haelian would do

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:35 AM

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beo special does some damn good damage

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:35 AM

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flashbacks to old charged flight

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:35 AM

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like what 85?

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 6:35 AM

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old charged flight was +400%

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:35 AM

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oh 45

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:35 AM

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it did over 2k damage

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:36 AM

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nice

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:36 AM

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now it's only 200

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well the % is only 200

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charged flight is still very viable, you can probably clear 32 heat real easy with it

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but imagine it twice as good

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:37 AM

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charged flight on aspect of chaos would be so funny

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doesnt worl unfortunately

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:37 AM

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well not really because the damage is additive and not multiplicative therefore the damage of pre-nerf charged flight is not actually double the damage of post-nerf, instead it simply just added +200% base damage over post-nerf

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:38 AM

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its 1.667x better prenerf

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 6:39 AM

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well it's 2 am on a school night I will be going to bed

exotic hatch Nov 30, 2020, 6:56 AM

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Hi, if i choose bonus for like 2% damage everytime i clear encounter without dying, and then change it to something else on elisyum, does +damage stays with me?

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:57 AM

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nope

exotic hatch Nov 30, 2020, 6:57 AM

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So it's only reasonable to keep all the run?

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 6:58 AM

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it's better to just use something else honestly

cosmic hornet Nov 30, 2020, 6:59 AM

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its not without dying btw, its without taking damage

exotic hatch Nov 30, 2020, 6:59 AM

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I usually use Zeus or Artemis first and then switch to Athena later

woven delta Nov 30, 2020, 7:05 AM

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Am I the only one who honestly really dislikes Hestia Rail?

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 7:05 AM

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its not for everyone

unkempt pagoda Nov 30, 2020, 7:05 AM

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it’s eh for me personally

woven delta Nov 30, 2020, 7:05 AM

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Like I can wrap my head around the concept of it fine, I just think it's how it works in practice that throws me off

unkempt pagoda Nov 30, 2020, 7:05 AM

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i miss way more often than i need to

woven delta Nov 30, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Mainly because none of the other aspects on any of the other weapons require me to actually rebind my controls to use it comfortably

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 7:07 AM

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u should swap the gift and reload buttons

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if ur on controller

woven delta Nov 30, 2020, 7:07 AM

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Keyboard

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 7:07 AM

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oh?

woven delta Nov 30, 2020, 7:08 AM

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Like I don't want to have to rebind anything just to use one particular aspect in general

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 7:08 AM

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are you using arrow keys or somethin

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 7:08 AM

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its not hard tbh

woven delta Nov 30, 2020, 7:08 AM

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WASD

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 7:08 AM

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just put reload on RMB or left shift

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 7:08 AM

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reload on R doesnt bother me

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 7:08 AM

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you have to change attack at cursor for rail anyway

woven delta Nov 30, 2020, 7:09 AM

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I reiterate my previous statement

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 7:09 AM

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I have auto aim off and attack at cursor on

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no problems w rail

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 7:09 AM

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i have autoaim on and attack at cursor off

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also no problems w rail

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 7:09 AM

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whatever floats ur boat

woven delta Nov 30, 2020, 7:10 AM

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Like, maybe if Hestia kept the empowered shot but instead had the mag size automatically set to 1, I'd feel more comfortable with it

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IDK

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 7:10 AM

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I might be at a disadvantage but I like having full control over my inputs

woven delta Nov 30, 2020, 7:11 AM

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I do too, but I also don't want to have to rebind some stuff just to use one particular aspect somewhat comfortably

dire kelp Nov 30, 2020, 7:27 AM

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Is it possible to get a 100% dodge build?

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 7:27 AM

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yes

unkempt pagoda Nov 30, 2020, 7:28 AM

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yes

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https://clips.twitch.tv/KitschySpikyTomatoSpicyBoy

Twitch

DeliciousCrepes - Dodge is Additive

Watch DeliciousCrepes's clip titled "Dodge is Additive"

▶ Play video

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 7:28 AM

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smoldering air second wind

dim bobcat Nov 30, 2020, 7:29 AM

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unkempt pagoda https://clips.twitch.tv/KitschySpikyTomatoSpicyBoy

ultra_instinct.mp4

dire kelp Nov 30, 2020, 7:29 AM

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Oh my god

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I need to try that

dim bobcat Nov 30, 2020, 7:30 AM

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how do you even get that much dodge

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 7:30 AM

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zag fist, plume, greater evasion, second wind, smoldering air.

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that's way more than 100%

dim bobcat Nov 30, 2020, 7:31 AM

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wait, how does smoldering air help

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 7:31 AM

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you can call every 5 seconds

unkempt pagoda Nov 30, 2020, 7:31 AM

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constant second wind upkeep

dim bobcat Nov 30, 2020, 7:31 AM

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ohhhhhh

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 7:31 AM

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second wind gives you 6 second of evasion after using call

dim bobcat Nov 30, 2020, 7:31 AM

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alright I see then

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cool beans

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 7:32 AM

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I love second winds boon icon

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all of hermes boon icons honestly

dim bobcat Nov 30, 2020, 7:33 AM

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hermes is probably my favorite

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him or dionysus or poseidon or artemis

unkempt pagoda Nov 30, 2020, 7:34 AM

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athena special effects are top tier though

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like, divine flourish on bow? one of the prettiest things in the game

dim bobcat Nov 30, 2020, 7:35 AM

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deflect > everything

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 7:35 AM

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divine strike on GY's spin

dim bobcat Nov 30, 2020, 7:35 AM

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(except chill if you have decay)

brisk field Nov 30, 2020, 7:35 AM

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Does Greater Recall proc Exit Wounds instantly?

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 7:35 AM

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Divine strike on arthur is soooo pretty

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 7:35 AM

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greater recall doesn't interact with exit wounds per s ay

unkempt pagoda Nov 30, 2020, 7:35 AM

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greater recall only works when the bloodstones are already on the floor

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 7:35 AM

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you'd want something like quick reload

brisk field Nov 30, 2020, 7:36 AM

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Oh, its the return timer on the floor, i see

unkempt pagoda Nov 30, 2020, 7:36 AM

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you still need the stones to get out of the enemy first

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 7:36 AM

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Greater recall moves your stone towards you when they're ready for pick up

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 7:37 AM

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big fan of side hustle

brisk field Nov 30, 2020, 7:37 AM

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Ah but Quick Return is one of the prereqs anyways so i guess that might be a thing to go for

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 7:37 AM

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side hustle is kinda sad

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 7:37 AM

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its good

brisk field Nov 30, 2020, 7:37 AM

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Love side hustle for stacking with golden touch

unkempt pagoda Nov 30, 2020, 7:37 AM

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who needs quick return when u just kill the enemy instantly :pppp

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 7:38 AM

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ive gotten so much blood+diamonds from styx bc of it

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 7:38 AM

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i mean. it depends where you get it.

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 7:38 AM

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if you get it early it's basically a free 500+ coins

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yeah

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one time I picked side hustle from the 500 Hermes boon in styx

unkempt pagoda Nov 30, 2020, 7:39 AM

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just go flurry cast -> greater recall with something like crystal beams

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 7:39 AM

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then I realized what I did

unkempt pagoda Nov 30, 2020, 7:39 AM

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then you don’t have to worry about dislodging

brisk field Nov 30, 2020, 7:39 AM

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But if i go crystals i cant spam true shot shadefear

dire kelp Nov 30, 2020, 7:39 AM

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turbid needle one time I picked side hustle from the 500 Hermes boon in styx

😔

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 7:40 AM

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I am not a smart person

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 7:40 AM

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cant get flurry cast with the superior mirror option

unkempt pagoda Nov 30, 2020, 7:40 AM

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go crystal clarity and pick up fully loaded :p

dire kelp Nov 30, 2020, 7:40 AM

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We all make mistakes

brisk field Nov 30, 2020, 7:40 AM

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To be fair artemis crystals got me my first win

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You could say im a camper

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 7:41 AM

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lol same

zealous light Nov 30, 2020, 8:20 AM

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Does the legendary Hermes boon for doing more damage to enemies with no gems stuck in them work for casts that don't even get stuck?

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Uh... "Bad News"?

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 8:21 AM

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Yes.

zealous light Nov 30, 2020, 8:22 AM

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No wonder I was doing so much damage with Ice Wine...

dire kelp Nov 30, 2020, 9:04 AM

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Do y'all prefer ice wine or electric wine?

proven osprey Nov 30, 2020, 9:07 AM

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Red wine

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(I like electric)

unkempt pagoda Nov 30, 2020, 9:14 AM

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you can get both so bouldy

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why settle for one, when you can have the finest

lime lynx Nov 30, 2020, 9:14 AM

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I've died 4 times in a row to Hades' second hp bar. I just want to progress for story sake shadegrief

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What is the easiest to clear with generally? I am most comfortable with Twin fists (talos) but I am still unsure what the easiest to mess up build for it would be.

tribal iron Nov 30, 2020, 9:15 AM

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I think chiron bow is the easiest

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literally any boons work

lime lynx Nov 30, 2020, 9:16 AM

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I've only tried coronacht I think but I got a broken combo, would've lost otherwise.

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Some type of curse on the cast or attack?

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 9:17 AM

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Flood Shot with Blizzard Shot and Mirage Shot if you want to use Talos.

lime lynx Nov 30, 2020, 9:18 AM

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So its a cast based build?

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 9:18 AM

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Probably with Deadly Strike and Frost Flourish to unlock the Duo Boons, but might work out well the other way around.

lime lynx Nov 30, 2020, 9:18 AM

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Is this for Talos or Chiron?

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 9:18 AM

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Talos.

lime lynx Nov 30, 2020, 9:19 AM

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But it sounds like a lot to get. Do you mean either of the two approaches?

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 9:20 AM

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No, I mean all of it. But getting just one out of Mirage Shot or Blizzard Shot would already be good.

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You can also sidegrade to Sea Storm if you see that instead.

lime lynx Nov 30, 2020, 9:21 AM

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So I'd need to start with poseidon keepsake, get flood shot first and then switch to either demeter or artemis?

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 9:21 AM

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Or Curse of Drowning if you want.

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Yeah.

lime lynx Nov 30, 2020, 9:21 AM

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t_tythankyou I'll give it a shot

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 9:22 AM

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Lots of flexibility there.

lime lynx Nov 30, 2020, 9:22 AM

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And best hammer upgrades?

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For aspect of Talos that is

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 9:22 AM

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Breaching Cross, and if you go for Deadly Strike, Heavy Knuckle.

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Explosive Upper is nice, too.

lime lynx Nov 30, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Makes sense, ty.

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 9:25 AM

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splash dash is also really good on talos since you can keep pulling them in range of your dash

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but may be harder to control

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 9:25 AM

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You could also start with Pointed Arrowhead for Deadly Strike or Flourish and take it from there.

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Lots of good potential for casts: Mirage Shot, Hunting Blades, Crystal Clarity, Fully Loaded.

lime lynx Nov 30, 2020, 9:27 AM

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I've already gotten an epic flood shot, will see how it goes. I'll come back and read. Ty again both of you.

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 9:27 AM

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She has Support Fire in her pool, which is great for Malphon.

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 9:27 AM

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good luck!

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tbh i only use special to apply status and effect

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i never actually uppercut

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 9:28 AM

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Good luck! squirtnya

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 9:28 AM

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not sure if that's how you're "supposed" to play talos but since i only do zeus attack splash dash it work lmao

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probably doesnt hold up at high heat at all

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 9:28 AM

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Probably does.

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I only really uppercut with Blizzard Shot.

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 9:29 AM

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i meant more the zeus attack splash dash

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need my crutch

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 9:29 AM

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i tried blizzard shot. it's hard to play

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it does so much when it connects, but i've problem connecting the blizzard shots

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i used infernal, not sure if right choice

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 9:30 AM

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It's not a problem with Talos.

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 9:31 AM

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what about bosses

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i mean with talos. i tried blizzard shot talos

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 9:31 AM

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Bosses get completely destroyed by Blizzard Shot.

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 9:31 AM

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D: not for me.

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im bad

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 9:32 AM

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just do ice wine talos squirtyay

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 9:32 AM

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It's easy to keep them within the AOE because they don't get knocked back very far.

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 9:33 AM

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i love blackout ice wine talos even if it's bad

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 9:33 AM

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That doesn't sound bad.

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 9:33 AM

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sounds decent

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 9:33 AM

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too much work to get going

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but once it gets going you press a lot of buttons and see some big numbers

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 9:34 AM

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i've never gotten talos. feels very awkward

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 9:34 AM

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i love it

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Is it just me or playing a Special build with mouse+keyboard is painful for fingers?

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 9:56 AM

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r e b i n d

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 9:56 AM

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I tried Aspect of Rama and I lose lives in standard rooms in elysium

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where

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w h e r e

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 9:56 AM

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settings

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 9:56 AM

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nah i mean the keys

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 9:56 AM

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controls

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oh..

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 9:56 AM

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everything feels weird

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 9:56 AM

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your mouse

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i use right click special mouse wheel down cast.

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 9:57 AM

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ooh that's big brain

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i have two spare buttons there

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so i got cast on MB4

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think is good

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thank you

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good friend

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 9:58 AM

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o sounds good. I've standard mouse so..

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 9:58 AM

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mine is glowing

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 9:58 AM

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also mouse wheel down is handy on hera/beowulf

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 9:58 AM

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so its gaming

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who's hera

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 9:58 AM

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bow aspect

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 9:58 AM

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I find playing games on KBM can get painful either way. Xbox One pads work best for me. The next Xbox pads look like an improvement, though, so I might try getting one.

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 9:59 AM

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also any way to get rid of the cat glitch?

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 9:59 AM

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what's a cat glitch.

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 9:59 AM

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um.. where can i upload a small clip?

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what channel

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 9:59 AM

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im bad at controllers. I've so much muscle memories on kbm. :C

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 9:59 AM

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do you mean the flamewheel sounds in elysium

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nah, the other cat glitch

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 9:59 AM

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river wing im bad at controllers. I've so much muscle memories on kbm. :C

same

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 10:00 AM

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You can link clips if you upload it to gfycat or something.

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 10:00 AM

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same (1). i've only ever used a controller for fighting games

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i guess ill just pm

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you can ask in #h1-tech-support

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 10:02 AM

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lmao

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 10:03 AM

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she just killed me at hades when i had no extra lives

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D:

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just bumped her head in my mouse

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she wanna play

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she stinky

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catmyaa

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 10:10 AM

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thanthink

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Chariots just want to play.

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They're just misunderstood.

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 10:51 AM

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whats good from demetra

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boon*

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i tried the cast one and im not interested again xDDDDD

royal helm Nov 30, 2020, 10:57 AM

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Her curse is generally just nice for bosses... 40% slow (or 55% with killing freeze) to help learn the game especially
Or activate Privileged Status

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 11:01 AM

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thank u if i meet these i give them a try

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tyty

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 11:03 AM

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Decay is really strong.

calm bluff Nov 30, 2020, 11:21 AM

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i did a stubborn defiance run at low heat with high confidence, but since i didn't just let myself die i'm at river of styx now

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i feel dumb

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 11:25 AM

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btw if you lowroll boons early is not that good

calm bluff Nov 30, 2020, 11:25 AM

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whelp time to see how this goes

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 11:25 AM

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and i go for famring things than finish the run till the end

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i went for a lightning thing sword and i didnt find anything about it xD

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i have poseidon call passive electric special uprades and nothing else kekw

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between sea storm duo and electric strike u choose seastorm right?

calm bluff Nov 30, 2020, 11:38 AM

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oh god

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chaos just offered me a deal, -48 hp for special damage until i complete the boon

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i have 50 hp

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 11:38 AM

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feelsbad

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xD

calm bluff Nov 30, 2020, 11:39 AM

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...i took it anyways

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let's go

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 11:41 AM

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yes always greed

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 12:41 PM

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1 HP is all you need.

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 12:57 PM

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Ambrosia for titans is worth to trade ?

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 1:09 PM

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yes no?

proven osprey Nov 30, 2020, 1:09 PM

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One ambrosia per run

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 1:11 PM

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it is worth it in the short run to play more aspects,
but not really in the medium run, when you still need ambrosia, but no longer need blood.
but doesn't matter anymore since you've excess of both in the long run

languid surge Nov 30, 2020, 1:13 PM

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hello! I have a few noobie questions:
1)does Aspect of Zeus apply multiple stacks of Doom?
2) does its damage (the shield special damage, not the doom damage) benefit from chaos boons?
I kinda wanna get a build that applies multiple stacks of doom and proc them with merciful end

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 1:14 PM

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doom doesn't stack on a single enemy.

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don't understand second qn. which chaos boon, what?

languid surge Nov 30, 2020, 1:15 PM

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the chaos boon that increases special damage

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does it work with the aspect of zeus ticking damage?

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 1:15 PM

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yes.

languid surge Nov 30, 2020, 1:16 PM

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river wing doom doesn't stack on a single enemy.

i mean, there is a boon that allows that, am i wrong?

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 1:16 PM

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yes? no.
You still have a single stack on the enemy. it's just due to deal more

languid surge Nov 30, 2020, 1:17 PM

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i must have misunderstood Dire Misfortune then

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 1:17 PM

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if you want merciful end, you really don't want to use dire misfortune

languid surge Nov 30, 2020, 1:17 PM

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uhm, i see

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i am really trying to get this aspect working but i feel like i am doing the wrong thing xD

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 1:17 PM

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merciful end is really strong on it. doom on special, deflect on strike

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Or you can go the classic zeus special.

languid surge Nov 30, 2020, 1:18 PM

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ye the thing is

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Merciful end seems so strong on everything

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 1:18 PM

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it is. yep

languid surge Nov 30, 2020, 1:18 PM

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is there a build that plays really well into this aspect strengths?

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 1:18 PM

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it works esp well on zeus tho. since the special ticks well

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you could just do special zeus on zeus shield, that never goes wrong.

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if your aspect is maxed out, you could even do deadly flourish, it's decent too

languid surge Nov 30, 2020, 1:20 PM

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nah it's just lv 2

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just another thing, since apparently i am misunderstanding doom's scaling a bit: does impending doom work with merciful end?

olive spruce Nov 30, 2020, 1:22 PM

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yes

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 1:22 PM

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it does, it's good

languid surge Nov 30, 2020, 1:22 PM

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niceee

olive spruce Nov 30, 2020, 1:22 PM

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I think merciful end isn't that good without impending doom

languid surge Nov 30, 2020, 1:24 PM

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how so?^^

olive spruce Nov 30, 2020, 1:24 PM

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it can almost double your doom damage (or more)

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I mean merciful end is still a great boon

languid surge Nov 30, 2020, 1:25 PM

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honestly i am expecting a nerf

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it's so good

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Ares duos are so good, like, Poseidon/Ares and Artemis/Ares are busted imo

olive spruce Nov 30, 2020, 1:26 PM

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hunting blades is pretty incredible

languid surge Nov 30, 2020, 1:27 PM

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oh yeah, i used to hate his cast

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then i got that duo xD

olive spruce Nov 30, 2020, 1:27 PM

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but it's hard to get the pieces together

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which is why I'm not too worried about it getting nerfed

vale imp Nov 30, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Wasn’t ME nerfed already? It seems so hard to get now

proven osprey Nov 30, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Yeah you need Divine strike or Divine Flourish now

gloomy zenith Nov 30, 2020, 2:34 PM

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what's the best combo for aspect of arthur blade

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to spam

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for regular sword i go: dash>dash attack>attack>attack>special>dash>repeat

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but that feels awkward on arthur

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 2:36 PM

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weave dashes between your attacks

proven osprey Nov 30, 2020, 2:36 PM

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First, on sword you want to special dash strike dash strike

gloomy zenith Nov 30, 2020, 2:36 PM

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i do

proven osprey Nov 30, 2020, 2:36 PM

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But on Arthur it won't work

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Make good use of your special

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Double edge is an amazing hammer too

gloomy zenith Nov 30, 2020, 2:37 PM

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so on regular sword: special>dash attack>dash attack>dash>special?

proven osprey Nov 30, 2020, 2:37 PM

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You're using you're special while your dash cooldown is refreshing

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that's why Divine flourish is good tho

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also don't spam too much either

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it's easy to get damaged, observe before dash striking like a madman

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but this is is the most damage yeah

gloomy zenith Nov 30, 2020, 2:39 PM

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i've been easily clearing the game by doing dash>dash attack>attack>attack>special>dash>repeat

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while also mixing it up as to not get hit

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 2:39 PM

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gloomy zenith so on regular sword: special>dash attack>dash attack>dash>special?

no dash before the last special

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everything kinda works as long as you're attacking constantly,

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but there is always gonna be an optimal rotation

proven osprey Nov 30, 2020, 2:40 PM

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And the optimal rotation is not always optimal squirtyay

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 2:41 PM

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if you've more dashes, add in more dash strikes.

gloomy zenith Nov 30, 2020, 2:47 PM

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ty for the tips, i'll try to incorporate special dash strike dash strike into my gameplay, i'll just have to build up muscle memory

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 2:48 PM

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for arthur starting your attack before dashing can be very helpful.

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allows you to easily lay down special.
And also lets you double poke with 110 base damage

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 2:49 PM

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arthur is one of my favorite weapons

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 2:49 PM

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yesss

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 2:49 PM

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dash strike build with double edge is horrible tho

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why would you ruin a weapon

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just for a speedrun

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 2:49 PM

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big swings is where it's at

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 2:50 PM

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yeah

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spacing with it is satisfying

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 2:50 PM

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But at FO2, the double poke is important

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not the hammer

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 2:50 PM

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just hitting with the very edge

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 2:50 PM

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just attack -> dash -> dash attack

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 2:50 PM

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greater consecration is one of the best hidden aspect hammers

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 2:50 PM

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i always pick it

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 2:50 PM

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I may pick shadow slash over it

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 2:50 PM

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me too. depends on heat

half crater Nov 30, 2020, 2:51 PM

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pretty sure it is literally the best hidden aspect hammer

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 2:51 PM

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lucifer tho

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 2:51 PM

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oh now that I think about it it definitely is

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guan yu's is just okay

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 2:51 PM

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gilga's hammer is really good

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 2:51 PM

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if you get it with quick spin you have a lot of spins on screen

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I once got quick massive spin with the winged serpent via anvil

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rama's hammer is just underwhelming

half crater Nov 30, 2020, 2:53 PM

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some of the others are fine, but greater consecration is practically best in shot for arthur

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 2:53 PM

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same with beowulf

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unfortunately

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they did beo dirty

half crater Nov 30, 2020, 2:53 PM

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solid competition from shadow slash tho you’re right

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 2:53 PM

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only in that department tho

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beo is god tier

half crater Nov 30, 2020, 2:54 PM

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yeah rip beo’s hammer

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tbh it’s still better than rama’s tho

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 2:54 PM

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it's just bad colossus knuckle

half crater Nov 30, 2020, 2:54 PM

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true lol

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 2:54 PM

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colossus knuckle is practically constant sturdy

half crater Nov 30, 2020, 2:55 PM

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sturdy is useless if you don’t take damage

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he says, while taking damage

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 2:56 PM

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why does rail get 5 hidden aspect hammers btw lol

unkempt pagoda Nov 30, 2020, 2:56 PM

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because if it didn't, it'd have like, 3 hammers max

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most of the regular attack hammers don't really make sense for a laser

half crater Nov 30, 2020, 3:01 PM

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i mean, flash fire at least isn’t a hammer

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it’s a baseline QoL feature they accidentally put in the wrong place

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 3:04 PM

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any build for Heart-Seeking Bow and aspect of zagreus ?

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and with what keepsake can i start the run

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i wanna beat hades for one time i necer did

weak violet Nov 30, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Yo, is their any build for the Lucifer aspect?

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 3:10 PM

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zeus

weak violet Nov 30, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Yeah, i figured that

half crater Nov 30, 2020, 3:10 PM

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poseidon

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those are the two builds

solid cairn Nov 30, 2020, 3:10 PM

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there's also the legendary super soaker build

ripe light Nov 30, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Poseidon is a lot of fun with Lucifer, too.

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Yeah.

weak violet Nov 30, 2020, 3:11 PM

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Hmmm

half crater Nov 30, 2020, 3:11 PM

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actually there’s a third build which revolves around special, usually with artemis

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dunno how good it is as i’ve never used it myself, but i see it crop up now and again

ripe light Nov 30, 2020, 3:12 PM

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I think Dionysus is good on Lucifer’s special too, actually.

weak violet Nov 30, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Hm, well imma try going for the thunder sig at tartarus than try the conch in asphodel and see how this works

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Any daedalus stuff i should look for btw?

half crater Nov 30, 2020, 3:13 PM

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flash fire is just really nice

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as is eternal chamber for zeus stuff

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idk i’m no lucy expert

ripe light Nov 30, 2020, 3:14 PM

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The hammer that makes foes targeted by special weaker is pretty nice with Hangover or Doom. Probably Rupture, too.

half crater Nov 30, 2020, 3:14 PM

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targeting system?

ripe light Nov 30, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Yeah.

half crater Nov 30, 2020, 3:15 PM

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that’s one of the best rail hammers full stop, so presumably it’d be good on lucy as well yeah

ripe light Nov 30, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Fair

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 3:18 PM

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charged voley>sniper shot ?

olive spruce Nov 30, 2020, 3:24 PM

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which aspect?

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on aspect of chiron absolutely yes

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how is the high confidence mirror option on aspect of arthur?

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it seems like it could be good

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 3:25 PM

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nope i have only zagreus aspect

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available

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charged volley isnt better tho i picked it and i guess is not

olive spruce Nov 30, 2020, 3:26 PM

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oh whoops, I confused it with concentrated volley

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 3:27 PM

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arthur is the freest high confidence

olive spruce Nov 30, 2020, 3:27 PM

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i don't think i would ever take it otherwise

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i still don't with arthur but i might try it sometime

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like ruthless reflex with gilgamesh fists

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 3:28 PM

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I like ruthless reflex with arthur

olive spruce Nov 30, 2020, 3:28 PM

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i accidentally did this once, and didn't notice until later

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fortunately i had gotten extra dashes from hermes

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so it all worked out in the end

weak violet Nov 30, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Well from first impressions from Lucifer is, meh

half crater Nov 30, 2020, 3:35 PM

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lol

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sad but true

weak violet Nov 30, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Im just not well with having to aim something and wait for the enemy to be in its radius just for it to explode

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But that would just be most of the rails

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Imma just stick with Eris

half crater Nov 30, 2020, 3:36 PM

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lol you and 90% of the hades playerbase forgetting non eris rail exists

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(me as well not judging)

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 3:37 PM

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achillis deadly strike spiny spiny is pretty fun.

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i got 1440 crits 😄

ripe light Nov 30, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Nice

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 3:41 PM

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i really wish achillis buff refreshes whenever you do the rush

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gimme moar qol D:

weak violet Nov 30, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Well from looking at hestia, really it only starts getting good when you invest in it tbh, and usually the Zagreus aspects are just there

olive spruce Nov 30, 2020, 4:21 PM

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I pretty much haven't invested in the zagreus aspects of most of the weapons and I don't feel like I'm missing out

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except sword, spear, and fists

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I think I will eventually when I get enough titan blood, but I'm in no rush

river wing Nov 30, 2020, 4:25 PM

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why does bow chainshot change the arrow. lol. that's so weird

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 4:54 PM

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what boon or passive upgrade can i pick from demetra?

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i play bow with zagreus aspect xD (lightning/doom) thing

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should i ignore at all?

sonic mural Nov 30, 2020, 5:23 PM

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zag aspect is extremely meh but i would def build demeter boons - especially those that buff crit and those that give more crit chance to attack/dash

manic ruin Nov 30, 2020, 5:27 PM

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for naeling board, is cast damage up better or extra cast? Going for trippy shot infernal soul

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:28 PM

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extra cast is almost always better

manic ruin Nov 30, 2020, 5:29 PM

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doing the math, but the cast damage is coming out on top, 37% buff

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301 trippy rn

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 5:29 PM

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flat damage scales better

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another source of flat damage = good

manic ruin Nov 30, 2020, 5:30 PM

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okay ty

rare kindle Nov 30, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Yeah, extra cast

surreal wasp Nov 30, 2020, 6:49 PM

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is spread shot good

deep salmon Nov 30, 2020, 6:51 PM

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i just tried curse of longing and merciful end build

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it actually only works, if you got dire misfortune

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 6:58 PM

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i finally did it 😉 xD

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 7:20 PM

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guys what you recommend to pick up? eris or chiron upgrade ?

teal juniper Nov 30, 2020, 7:21 PM

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chiron really benefits from upgrades but eris is really good

deep salmon Nov 30, 2020, 7:22 PM

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get both. get the one you like to clear more first though

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 7:26 PM

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okkk thank uu

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i imagine one build one guy said yesterday with poseidon/zeus and special upgrades

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on eris

devout ether Nov 30, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Zeus attack, specifically

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Poseidon dash, specifically

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Not just any zeus/pos boons

mortal forge Nov 30, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Is Zeus boons really that good? like over Demeter or Hermès or aphro

sonic mural Nov 30, 2020, 7:33 PM

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depends on weapon

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if its a fast weapon with low base damage, zeus is better => fists, rail

hollow schooner Nov 30, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Lightning strike is really good for the rail

mortal forge Nov 30, 2020, 7:34 PM

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also what would the best starting boon be the best for sword

sonic mural Nov 30, 2020, 7:34 PM

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which sword?

deep salmon Nov 30, 2020, 7:34 PM

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i kinda prefer dionysus on fist

mortal forge Nov 30, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Forgot the name but it is the 2nd Branch

deep salmon Nov 30, 2020, 7:34 PM

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but as it is right now it sucks

hollow schooner Nov 30, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Demeters crystal cast is so OP

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Especially with the Artemis duo boon

deep salmon Nov 30, 2020, 7:35 PM

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so i just only do it for the PS amp

sonic mural Nov 30, 2020, 7:35 PM

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id go artemis dash strike

deep salmon Nov 30, 2020, 7:35 PM

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and then pick up aphro cast/dash

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and then artemis special

sonic mural Nov 30, 2020, 7:36 PM

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yah but dionysis the problem is after 6 stacks you dont deal any more damage

deep salmon Nov 30, 2020, 7:36 PM

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you maintain the debuff after

hollow schooner Nov 30, 2020, 7:36 PM

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I usually always use Dionysius as support for health or something

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Strong drink has saved me a lot in my runs

loud schooner Nov 30, 2020, 7:37 PM

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unless you get low tolerance

deep salmon Nov 30, 2020, 7:37 PM

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ye

loud schooner Nov 30, 2020, 7:37 PM

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I like dionysus a lot in general, but with low tolerance is even better

deep salmon Nov 30, 2020, 7:38 PM

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wait, i can't check browser nor game rn but is ares' call included in the requirements for curse of nausea

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it's also great

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 7:38 PM

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no

deep salmon Nov 30, 2020, 7:39 PM

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lmao

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 7:39 PM

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curse of agony, pain or vengeance necessary for curse of nausea

deep salmon Nov 30, 2020, 7:39 PM

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ooh, vengeance

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 7:39 PM

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yeah thats the fun choice

deep salmon Nov 30, 2020, 7:39 PM

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i can take it on my next demeter fist run

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i got enough fun with pepegamesh run just earlier

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😂

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i plan to do a 5 god dot/crit run

weak violet Nov 30, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Y’all know a good build for Hera?

undone anvil Nov 30, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Dio cast

weak violet Nov 30, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Well idk what the Dio cast is but ok

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Might go for something Athena pr Aphrodite of some sort

undone anvil Nov 30, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Festive Fog

weak violet Nov 30, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Oooooh, nvm i know what Dio cast means bouldy

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 8:35 PM

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have anyone a good build for the shield i rly like it but dont know how to build it probaly?

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 8:35 PM

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which aspect?

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 8:38 PM

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tbh i didnt play it very long and did the mistake to put almost any blood in the Gun so without any atm i try to get more blood atm

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but i would play Zeus

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or can i somehow farm blood?

drifting vale Nov 30, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Heat

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 8:44 PM

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so only through complete Runs and new runs then ?

drifting vale Nov 30, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Basically you can get it from prophecies and the broker but main way is raising heat level

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 8:45 PM

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mhm ok understood

wraith schooner Nov 30, 2020, 8:52 PM

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whats a good build for arthur sword ?

dry ember Nov 30, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Deadly Strike + Heartbreak Flourish + Heart Rend. Divine Dash is fine if you get it. Hammer doesn't really matter. Breaching Slash is good. Shadow Slash is good.

wraith schooner Nov 30, 2020, 8:56 PM

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ty

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Dash Nova is good.

weak violet Nov 30, 2020, 9:05 PM

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First impressions of Hera, its baller

tardy swan Nov 30, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Concentrated Volley + Relentless Volley on the Charon Bow seems quite good. Thanks Daedalus. dontmindme

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 10:01 PM

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What's the best darkness farm strategies.

rare kindle Nov 30, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Do a heat you’ve already won, force Poseidon and hope for chaos farming boons

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 10:03 PM

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That's a good point.

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What's the best weapon for poseidon?

tardy swan Nov 30, 2020, 10:08 PM

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I think bow works well, if you get knockback+rupture on either attack or special and some other condition on the other like weak or hangover.

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 10:11 PM

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shield benefits from the natural knockback boons

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wave pounding and sea storm both apply to shield attacks

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same with breaking wave

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 10:11 PM

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The poisoedon Demeter cast duo boon cast is the worst.

plush crypt Nov 30, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Nah, the worst is Aphro/Demeter. The dem/poseidon duo can wreck things pretty well.

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Speedrun strats with Poseidon boons would be Flood Shot on Hera.

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Blizzard Shot is amazing.

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 10:20 PM

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one build for eris ? i have lightning strike and hazard bomb hammer rn

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Get Tidal Dash on Eris.

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Lightning Strike + Tidal Dash and just double-down on all their t2 boons.

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Deadly Flourish is good, too.

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 10:22 PM

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lul i just god this deadly flourish xD

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so next keepsake i think i pick poseidon to roll a tidal

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ares aid or battle race ? i got a room of ares

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 10:25 PM

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What's the third option?

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Battle Rage is alright. Not a fan of his Call, that's a big DPS drop on Eris.

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 10:26 PM

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@cunning urchin how do you make blizzard shot good? It doesn't seek doesn't implant and moves slow and the activation of the frost is slow.

opal lodge Nov 30, 2020, 10:27 PM

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battle rage is quite good, just not really on eris unless you get rockets

turbid needle Nov 30, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Is it best to just napalm and drag enemies into it?

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 10:27 PM

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cunning urchin Battle Rage is alright. Not a fan of his Call, that's a big DPS drop on Eris.

its i got battle rage ty ty

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KEKW this game is so free with this special

cunning urchin Nov 30, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Blizzard Shot is strong because it moves slow and does massive AOE damage meanwhile.

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It's a boss killer for sure.

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 10:31 PM

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but it can dmg on you

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but no matter if u dash and hit and special and repeat it

plush crypt Nov 30, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Pretty sure blizzard shot doesn't damage you.

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The only actions you can take that damage you that I'm aware of are hazard bomb, and actions linked to the damage-on-use Chaos curses

wooden gyro Nov 30, 2020, 10:41 PM

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@plush crypt ye i got by mistake this hazard bomp with a hammer early

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is its wrong option ?

torpid abyss Nov 30, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Fellas

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I have become master gamer

plush crypt Nov 30, 2020, 10:42 PM

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It's not wrong if you do well with it

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It's not optimal probably, but who cares. Do what's fun and what works.