#h1-builds-and-combat | Supergiant Games | Page 751

stark ore Nov 25, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Stacks too so if you get poisoned get out of the source as fast as possible

lime lynx Nov 25, 2020, 6:05 PM

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I had typed my message but alt tabbed as I am running some things for work and alt tabbing, sorry.

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Pro tip: pause immediately when you get poisoned, then look for a curing pool and how to get there safely.

stark ore Nov 25, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Poison clears itself at the end of an encounter so if there's one more enemy left and they're at low health then it's better to just kill off that enemy usually imo

lime lynx Nov 25, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Well, that would require advanced mechanics, as I have had instances where I was standing in magma after clearing a chamber and didnt notice as I was distracted.

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Bruh.

opal lodge Nov 25, 2020, 6:08 PM

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cant help with that one lmao

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 6:08 PM

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zaglol

lime lynx Nov 25, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I did add 'casual player' to my nickname villagershrugs

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I get "revived to heal with SD but forgot I had no SD" vibes from that.

opal lodge Nov 25, 2020, 6:09 PM

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tired: using pools to cleanse poison
wired: using dad call to cleanse poison

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 6:10 PM

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It's okay, we've all done things like that lol.

stark ore Nov 25, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Eh you get more experienced as you play more, just takes some practice

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 6:11 PM

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admired: using poison to proc SD healing squirtdevious

lime lynx Nov 25, 2020, 6:12 PM

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I want to post a video of a bug, what would be the appropriate channel?

stark ore Nov 25, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Just deflect the poison pools and poison the entire temple

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EZ

dry ember Nov 25, 2020, 6:13 PM

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lime lynx I want to post a video of a bug, what would be the appropriate channel?

F10 in game. Though describe the bug maybe?

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 6:13 PM

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F10 in game and link the video in your message there.

dry ember Nov 25, 2020, 6:13 PM

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1.0 is quite stable, this could be user error

lime lynx Nov 25, 2020, 6:13 PM

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dry ember F10 in game. Though describe the bug maybe?

I play on a switch

dry ember Nov 25, 2020, 6:13 PM

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there is no F10 on the switch?

lime lynx Nov 25, 2020, 6:13 PM

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It was an 'elusive' centaur heart

dry ember Nov 25, 2020, 6:13 PM

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What is this?

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a console?

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 6:13 PM

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#h1-tech-support then if you're on Switch.

lime lynx Nov 25, 2020, 6:13 PM

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yes, its a tiny console

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SeemsGood

opal lodge Nov 25, 2020, 6:14 PM

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yeah go to tech support

lime lynx Nov 25, 2020, 6:16 PM

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This is a bug right? #h1-tech-support message

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Hopefully not a user error.

dry ember Nov 25, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Yup sure is lol

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Good find

hexed quail Nov 25, 2020, 6:46 PM

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How would you rate the Malphon (fists) aspects?

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Because it's my favorite Infernal Arm of the six

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 6:49 PM

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guys, I have managed this for a build

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https://imgur.com/a/LllzDgy

Imgur

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and it feels underwhelming on Talos

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what did I do wrong here?

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Demeter
Gilgamesh/Zag
Talos

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What was your aim with that build?

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Usually dio self cast is better with talos
So trippy shot with ice wine and dio legendary in addition to his attack

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 6:51 PM

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well, to get 40% damage from two curses going - stack Dio with attack, apply Doom with uppercuts

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Better on talos than a usual dio build

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 6:52 PM

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yeah, I did ice wine with Achilleus

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Scintillating feast is better with achilles

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 6:52 PM

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it's nice

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ice wine = when you blow up with festive fog + chill, right?

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I find caster builds awkward tbh

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tried a few, yeah, damage is there, but gameplay is goofy sometimes

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Depends on the aspect and how your building
Cast builds are just very different

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 6:54 PM

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so Talos is just not great for hangover/doom stacking I guess

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 6:54 PM

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There are better options on it imo

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 6:55 PM

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prolly Eris

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but Eris is good for anything

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 6:55 PM

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Or rather if you build hangover you build it different on talos, as stated above

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On eris zeus reigns supreme

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 6:55 PM

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I have also tried Artemis on cluster bomb

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it also destroyed

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like 5 bombs in one place trigger father's invul

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esp if you have chaos for speciall

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mmmm

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makes Eris so broken

rare kindle Nov 25, 2020, 7:00 PM

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Artemis is almost necessary on cast builds

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Got to try for her legendary, plus she makes mediocre casts good (hunting blades/crystal clarity)

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 7:01 PM

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artemis is deffo op

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crystal's duo with Aphro is horrible compared to crystals with Artemis

rare kindle Nov 25, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Crystals with Artemis is fire and forget, and it can target more enemies at once

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 7:05 PM

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it's super strong

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 7:06 PM

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No god is op

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Except artemis dash
That could be it's own god kappa

proud topaz Nov 25, 2020, 7:15 PM

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i've just got a 30% butterfly run left to get all the achievements -- any tips? should i be trying to get that with a shield rather than with rail maybe?

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 7:18 PM

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@primal hazel imo Artemis is just so versatile, so many good things, and her duos kick ass

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Never said anything else

rose raft Nov 25, 2020, 7:20 PM

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@ the wiki for Adamant Rail, when it says "Cannot be combined with" it just means picking up one of those listed will mean that those upgrades will lock you out, yes?

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this is for Delta Chamber and Spread Fire, Flurry Fire or Concentrated Fire

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Yep

dry ember Nov 25, 2020, 7:21 PM

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if you pick one, the others won't appear

proud topaz Nov 25, 2020, 7:21 PM

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doesn't really make sense to get Delta and Flurry Fire for example

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 7:21 PM

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The game is merciful on you reducing the hammer pool there

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:21 PM

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languid dagger what did I do wrong here?

You took Drunken Strike.

rose raft Nov 25, 2020, 7:21 PM

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god that really should be in the game like the boon reqs thing we have now

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thanks, that's really helpful

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:22 PM

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proud topaz i've just got a 30% butterfly run left to get all the achievements -- any tips? ...

Guan Yu, Hestia, and Chiron are really good for that challenge.

proud topaz Nov 25, 2020, 7:23 PM

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i think Hestia might be my best bet out of those three, thanks!

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Possibly. It's a very safe aspect.

proud topaz Nov 25, 2020, 7:24 PM

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(just knowing what playstyle my fingers like)

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i'll give it a shot next time

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 7:24 PM

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What a pun

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:24 PM

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They're all kind of similar in just sniping things from a distance.

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Yes. That is a most excellent pun.

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 7:26 PM

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@cunning urchin well, wanted to stack them hangover dots with fast attack

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:27 PM

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But you'll just cap in about a second, and then all your hits add basically no more damage.

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Terrible DPS on bosses, far worse DPS than Lightning Strike or Curse of Agony for room clearing.

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 7:29 PM

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I'd argue it's ok with blackout

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:29 PM

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I think if you want to take Drunken Strike on Talos, you gotta take Trippy Shot and high-roll for Black Out. Otherwise, I don't really see the point.

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 7:29 PM

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And the self cast thing

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That was my suggestion to them b4

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:30 PM

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But I think there are much better builds for Talos.

opal lodge Nov 25, 2020, 7:31 PM

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ice wine blackout is my favorite talos build

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imo drunken dash works better for that so you can go zeus attack for scintillating ice fog

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 7:31 PM

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It's outta question that there are better
But it's fun and decently powerful imo

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Slicing Shot and no Lady Artemis in your pool is also very questionable.

opal lodge Nov 25, 2020, 7:31 PM

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but the best talos build is still just lightning strike + tidal dash

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everything else is secondary

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:32 PM

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I'd rather have Blizzard Shot and Mirage Shot.

opal lodge Nov 25, 2020, 7:32 PM

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best for speed i should say

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splash tag is very very strong with magnetic pull

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blizzard shot seems quite good for high heat

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:33 PM

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m not sure if it's the best for speed. thanthink

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It's not Merciful End.

opal lodge Nov 25, 2020, 7:33 PM

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seems to be at the moment

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i think talos WR is with splash tag

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could be wrong though

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ME is OP as usual

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:34 PM

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bablo probably?

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I assumed because you said WR.

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I think Talos is very underexplored still anyway.

opal lodge Nov 25, 2020, 7:36 PM

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webs or bablo

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:37 PM

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At least people are getting away from everybody just doing Tempest Flourish, which is just a terrible build on Talos lol.

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 7:38 PM

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What other flourish you'd recommend on that? Aphrodite for smoldering?

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Somehow the buff seems to have helped with that. Now actually people try to focus on Attack and Cast like they should.

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Special really doesn't matter on Talos tbh.

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Whatever unlocks the Duo Boons you want.

opal lodge Nov 25, 2020, 7:40 PM

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true

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 7:40 PM

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I'll take that as a yes

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Obviously you want Lady Aphrodite boons in every slot to unlock Disciple of Aphrodite.

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The true ending.

rare kindle Nov 25, 2020, 7:42 PM

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aphrodite boons are strong and the requirements for her legendary are quite strong on their own

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 7:43 PM

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cunning urchin Obviously you want Lady Aphrodite boons in every slot to unlock Disciple of Aphr...

That's actually the only spoiler that should be tagged anywhere imo

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 7:43 PM

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rare kindle aphrodite boons are strong and the requirements for her legendary are quite stro...

Preach to the choir

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:44 PM

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I told Lady Aphrodite on her stream the other day that I don't like aspects on which Lady Aphrodite builds aren't optimal, and she said that's a good reason to dislike aspects.

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 7:50 PM

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@cunning urchin yeah, that talos build was random af. I am not taking Drunken Strike ever again 🤣

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i mean, killed 2-phase Hades on Heat 14 comfortably with it

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but that's about it

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Aphro's call is very weird

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and fun

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I saw splitters destroying other splitters with one shot

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and I saw bull hitting Teseus for quite a bit of damage

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but overall very random call

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:51 PM

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I know @knotty kindle liked Drunken Strike on Malphon for awhile. But I think he since moved away from it.

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 7:52 PM

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languid dagger <@!311477984886521856> yeah, that talos build was random af. I am not taking Dru...

As we said if you play with blackout and demeter duo it's a possibility
But zeus attack and dio dash would be better in that

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:52 PM

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It's not like it's unplayable. There are just stronger options.

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Drunken Strike would be good for handling DC2 at least.

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 7:53 PM

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yeah, it definitely felt that way. I am guessing hangover dots on their own are best on Chiron with additional stacks, right?

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Still not as good as Lightning Strike for that.

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Hangover can be great if you can get Bad Influence.

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 7:53 PM

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I mean Lightning Strike on Chiron?

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Chiron is prolly the bad on chiron

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Nooo on fists

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:54 PM

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It's not like it's impossible to make it work.

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Yeah flurry strike
But why take chiron then

warm stag Nov 25, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Question. I am still trying to get my first full clear. I really regret my Titan Blood choices, is restarting a new file so I can spec them better a good idea?

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Low Tolerance is amazing on Chiron, yeah. Best way we've found so far for dealing with JS3 at high heat.

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 7:55 PM

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@warm stag no, you will get enough bloods

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because special hangover dots are bigger

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:55 PM

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I think you're better off just practicing tbh.

warm stag Nov 25, 2020, 7:55 PM

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If I can manage to beat Hades. XD

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 7:55 PM

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and having it on Chiron seems perfect

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Maybe look at my build guide that's pinned in #h1-for-new-players to help you out.

rare kindle Nov 25, 2020, 7:56 PM

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yeah, you can always exchange at wretched broker

warm stag Nov 25, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Thanks Nyaan

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:56 PM

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It's a good start for getting an idea for what's strong.

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 7:56 PM

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two duos would be perfect, aphro/dio + ares/dio

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:57 PM

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What would you even take on Chiron for the Duo with Lord Ares? lol

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 7:57 PM

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but I went for two duos today on Nemesis 12th heat, used god's keepsakes to get full crit build going, Artemis on attack, Aphro on special, Athena on dash. Ended up getting no duos and entering Hades fight with 0 dd and dying 🤣

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@cunning urchin curse of nausea?

lime lynx Nov 25, 2020, 7:57 PM

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cunning urchin Maybe look at my build guide that's pinned in <#725021347968712724> to help you ...

ty, I didn't know this existed.

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Deadly Strike + Drunken Flourish or Heartbreak Strike + Drunken Flourish is what you'd want.

pseudo stream Nov 25, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Is it just me or does Ruthless Reflex make Gilgamesh incredibly strong? Like holy crap

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:58 PM

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languid dagger <@!311477984886521856> curse of nausea?

I mean what boon from Lord Ares do you want to take on Chiron to unlock that?

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 7:58 PM

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languid dagger <@!311477984886521856> curse of nausea?

That's awful except in hangover ps maybe

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 7:58 PM

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@cunning urchin Ares on attack, Dio on Special

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Ew.

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Oh wait

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 7:59 PM

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would it be bad?

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Confused it with curse if longing

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 7:59 PM

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no, no curse of longing

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just faster dots

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from special

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Heartbreak Strike and Deadly Strike are way stronger than Curse of Agony.

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 7:59 PM

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ideally get Aphro dash and get extra stacks

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 8:00 PM

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You're not getting no extra stacks from Passion Dash on Chiron.

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Passion Dash just to enable dio/aphro duo

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Your enemies are like a fullscreen away from you.

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At most half a screen if they make it that far.

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 8:01 PM

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can go dash thru them 🙂

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Dude for the Aphro duo you need to actively apply weak to be able to benefit from it

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 8:01 PM

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hmm

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so no way to effectively do double duo on Chiron then

static karma Nov 25, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Who else finds cast builds really fun?

clever igloo Nov 25, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Everyone

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 8:02 PM

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hmm, wait, you can take curse of vengeance from Ares

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still a pipe dream

warm stag Nov 25, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Nyaanyaa, a question. I saw your guide recommends Aphrodite a lot. Is that for Weak defensive, mostly?

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 8:02 PM

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but Aphro on Attack to apply weak, Dio on special, Curse of Vengeance and pray for duos

knotty kindle Nov 25, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Drunken Strike for Zagreus aspect Twin Fists are still quite viable on relatively high heats. I'm about to do a 42 heat hell mode, no aim assist, kb/m attempt with drunken strike to see if it will work

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:03 PM

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languid dagger so no way to effectively do double duo on Chiron then

There are other reqs for ares duo

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For the ares duo you don't need doom
The duo works on its own

rare kindle Nov 25, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Cast builds are hard to get up and running, but once you do, their DPS is insane

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 8:04 PM

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@primal hazel but to get it you need some form of doom

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Nope

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Look at the pre reqs

knotty kindle Nov 25, 2020, 8:05 PM

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What weapon are you using Dio special on? If it is something like Chiron or Rama bow, that works fine, but if you're talking about Twin Fists, ehhhh, I wouldn't recommend it because of the time and danger applying all the debuff stacks

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Any of ares main slot boons works

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We're talking chiron m8

knotty kindle Nov 25, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Ah, yeah, that was a favorite of mine

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 8:05 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/y60g5UC

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you need doom boon, and revenge one is the obvious choice here, right

rare kindle Nov 25, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Demeter’s cast is fun but so slow without the duo

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:08 PM

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You playing on pc?
Cause on switch you don't

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 8:08 PM

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yep, on pc

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Didn't know they changed that

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 8:08 PM

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so pipe dream Dio build on Chiron is possible

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Why can't the ffin patches hit switch finally

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"pipe dream"

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 8:08 PM

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warm stag Nyaanyaa, a question. I saw your guide recommends Aphrodite a lot. Is that for W...

Heartbreak Strike and Flourish have the highest % modifier as well as best pom and rarity scaling. She also has amazing Duo Boons, and Weak is possibly the best debuff in the game.

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 8:09 PM

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well yeah, if you get two duos )

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and get curse of vengeance from Ares specifically

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 8:09 PM

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knotty kindle Drunken Strike for Zagreus aspect Twin Fists are still quite viable on relativel...

Good luck!

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I always found boss damage to be mad low with Drunken Strike.

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I guess you high-roll for Bad Influence?

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 8:11 PM

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languid dagger you need doom boon, and revenge one is the obvious choice here, right

Yup. Curse of Vengeance. But it doesn't add that much to try too hard to get it unless you happen to run into him anyway.

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Obviously doesn't hurt.

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 8:12 PM

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personally, I don't like idea of dot and curse builds, so I am just theorycrafting how to get most dot damage

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 8:12 PM

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True Shot is an easier pick with good synergy.

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 8:12 PM

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so Chiron with double duo should be the way

warm stag Nov 25, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Huh, I kind of slept on Weak I guess. Been focusing raw damage and deflect

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Will need to try more Aphrodite builds, thanks

sullen violet Nov 25, 2020, 8:13 PM

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I've talked to Achilles like 4 times when is this man gonna give me my new spear

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Well. Heartbreak gives you all the raw damage.

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Also gives you an easy route to Smoldering Air.

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:14 PM

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It's not about the damage reduction from weak
Although that is neat
The synergies are where it's at

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 8:15 PM

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No, it's more about the damage reduction than the Duo Boons tbh.

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Well Frick you and Frick me then

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Rend is the staple of crit builds tho

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Just Weak alone is already a 1.4x multiplier to your eHP.

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Yeah, but the builds in the guide are meta for high heat. So they need to work even if you never see any other boons in your run.

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Which makes them work very well at any heat.

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A good build is strong with just 2–3 core boons and then has synergies only on top of that to potentially seal the run.

keen delta Nov 25, 2020, 8:27 PM

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any recommendations for a good exagryph build

languid dagger Nov 25, 2020, 8:29 PM

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eris + 5 rockets or + rocket bomb and almost anything and especially zeus on attack

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Depends on the apsect

keen delta Nov 25, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Going with Eris aspect I think

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Unless theres a better one

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Eris: Lightning Strike, Support fire, zeus legendary, sea storm + tidal dash, aphro flourish, zeus aid and smoldering air, rocket bomb, cluster bomb, (

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Take zeus keepsake first, poseidon keepsake second stage
If he doesn't pop out before

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God priority is Zeus>poseidon>aphrodite>Artemis

keen delta Nov 25, 2020, 8:31 PM

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What should I go for on cast with that? Any?

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:32 PM

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You could take pos cast for additional benefits from sea storm

keen delta Nov 25, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Support fire sounds good, wouldn't have thought of that

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does support fire proc with every round?

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or on reload?

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Yes

keen delta Nov 25, 2020, 8:32 PM

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thats insane

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Every attack/special hit triggers

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For cast activation triggers

keen delta Nov 25, 2020, 8:32 PM

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gonna give it a run now

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Best of luck

static karma Nov 25, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Is it just me or is Curse of Drowning not actually a very good duo boon? I got it for helping fulfill the duo prophecy

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:33 PM

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@keen delta Hope your running gods pride and dark foresight

unborn pebble Nov 25, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Quick question, can Aphrodite's Broken Resolve (Weak reduces enemy damage by more) boon be pommed?

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:34 PM

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static karma Is it just me or is Curse of Drowning not actually a very good duo boon? I got i...

It's funny with talos

keen delta Nov 25, 2020, 8:34 PM

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what is gods pride and dark foresight lol

unborn pebble Nov 25, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Dark Foresight is a perk on the reverse side of the mirror

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Dark foresight gives you more golden laurels

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So more money, boons, hearts

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Or rather a higher chance to get golden laurel rooms

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:35 PM

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keen delta what is gods pride and dark foresight lol

Also I meant gods legacy sry

keen delta Nov 25, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Oooh I'll have to double check after the run, I think I am

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Gods legacy gives you +10% chance for duos and legendaries

keen delta Nov 25, 2020, 8:35 PM

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I think I have gods legacy on

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Also I'd recommend family favorite

keen delta Nov 25, 2020, 8:36 PM

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not sure about foresight, I'll check after

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:36 PM

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And persuasion

keen delta Nov 25, 2020, 8:36 PM

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I believe I have family favorite too

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Oh also you have a higher chance for hammers and poms too

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It's great for run consistency

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Only reason to not run it is when farming ressources imo

unborn pebble Nov 25, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Yup, I almost go Dark Foresight, and the other one (+10% duo/legend vs +20% Epic rarity chance) depends on what I want in a run.

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But yeah, can Aphros boon Broken Resolve be pommed or not?

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Ahh, finally found it

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Sorry for repeating the question (why the heck did I not see that it can't be pommed first time I checked the wiki?).

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:40 PM

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No worries
Didn't say anything cause I wasn't sure either xD

static karma Nov 25, 2020, 8:40 PM

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I sold Curse of Drowning for an extra death defiance. Very worth it imo, now I can use Poseidon's cast again

unborn pebble Nov 25, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Curse of Drowning with a lot of casts is hilarious with Achilles Spear

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Special -> Rush -> Special -> Load the Casts -> Rush while Pulsing

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Laugh

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And 3 casts is technically plenty enough

keen delta Nov 25, 2020, 8:45 PM

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so far so good, got lightning strike and heartbreak flourish

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lightning strike is wild on the exagryph

solid cairn Nov 25, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Test branch Achilles feels so good

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:45 PM

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On eris

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:45 PM

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solid cairn Test branch Achilles feels so good

Thought test branch is inactive

clever igloo Nov 25, 2020, 8:45 PM

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What did they change achilles buff to

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150% already feels ridiculous

solid cairn Nov 25, 2020, 8:45 PM

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They changed it to 200, now it’s back to 150

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But that isn’t the biggest change

clever igloo Nov 25, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Lol

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Oh man that's sad

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200% meme beam

clever igloo Nov 25, 2020, 8:46 PM

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The special buff seems good too

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Buffering inputs better will be a big help

solid cairn Nov 25, 2020, 8:46 PM

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The special stuff makes it act like an extra dash

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:46 PM

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We switch peasants can only dream

clever igloo Nov 25, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Yeah we’re not getting this patch until like

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Idk even know when lol

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We’re so far behind

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Yeah that my problem too

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I'd at least like to have a date

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Even if it's like February

solid cairn Nov 25, 2020, 8:47 PM

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The date

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:47 PM

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At least I'll know then

solid cairn Nov 25, 2020, 8:47 PM

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I actually know the date

clever igloo Nov 25, 2020, 8:47 PM

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My guess is they want to roll a bunch of them together into one

solid cairn Nov 25, 2020, 8:47 PM

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The update will come out on the same day the update is released

clever igloo Nov 25, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Thanks...

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Thanks for making me hopeful

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Not like we're waiting for like 2 months already

clever igloo Nov 25, 2020, 8:48 PM

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They probably want to minimize the amount of times they need to go through cert

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Since it’s a flat fee on each one

ripe glade Nov 25, 2020, 8:50 PM

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If I pick up a dud hammer, with 50% extra damage to special.. does that also include 50% extra on the doom effect that's on the special?.. or just it's base damage?

clever igloo Nov 25, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Just special damage

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Not doom damage

ripe glade Nov 25, 2020, 8:50 PM

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k.. thanks..

pseudo stream Nov 25, 2020, 9:03 PM

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any Zeus aspect advice?

primal hazel Nov 25, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Depends on the build
Either you build ME then you put Doom on special, athena attack and dash, get additional badges and hyper rush(or whatever it's called)
Kite your shield and trigger doom with dashes

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You could also run zeus flourish with explosive catch and just spam special at enemies

torpid wren Nov 25, 2020, 9:14 PM

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I'd say learn how the shield behaves once its out there. like the distance it flies when it stops moving, how long it takes before auto-returning, and the behavior it has while it's returning to you. then after that think of how you can combine that with attacks. it's very gimmicky... like a minigame, but you can do some fun stuff with it

clever igloo Nov 25, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Yeah, it has more play to it than you’d think. You can dash around to have it follow you longer, you can issue the return command while charging bull rush, etc

silent talon Nov 25, 2020, 9:47 PM

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can somebody tell me if sea storm and splitting bolt stack ?

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wll sea storm count as a lightning boon ?

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i had a run with aspect of demeter where i had tempest strike, tempest flourish , sea storm and splitting bolt .. had jolted and rupture , it all went super smooth but just wondering if these boons stack ?

unkempt pagoda Nov 25, 2020, 9:52 PM

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splitting bolt works on any lightning effect

teal juniper Nov 25, 2020, 10:01 PM

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that's the good thing about it

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imagine scintillating feast, seastorm, lightning attack, lightning special, splash dash, lightning reflexes, and splitting bolt

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all the lightning's

proven osprey Nov 25, 2020, 10:02 PM

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zzzzap

teal juniper Nov 25, 2020, 10:03 PM

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zeus call as well ofc

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a concentrated part of the screen becomes all lightning

opal lodge Nov 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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double strike matters more than youd think

teal juniper Nov 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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ah, forget that

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jolted as well ofc

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obviously taking increased duo and legendary boon chance

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use zeus dio and posiedon keepsakes if they don't show up naturally

static karma Nov 25, 2020, 10:09 PM

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So I fought the secret boss in Tartarus for the heck of it. I lost obviously but I was surprisingly close to winning, so I'm confident I can beat the secret boss if encountered in Elysium

dry ember Nov 25, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Yeah that fight is a balancing act.

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The sooner you get through it the more values you obtain.

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But also riskier.

proven osprey Nov 25, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Charon the jedi

lime lynx Nov 25, 2020, 10:16 PM

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I am trying to do a Hades spear run with Heartbreaker strike (no special boon yet) and possibly going to try to get 'Unhealthy Fixation', what would be a good daedalus upgrade? Ones that spread? I have to choose from extending jab, triple jab and massive spin.

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 10:17 PM

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I guess Massive Spin out of those.

dry ember Nov 25, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Yeah massive spin

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Just getting to apply Weak and Punishing to the whole room easily is nice even if you never see the Legendary.

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And then there's a good chance you'll charm at least one enemy if you do get it.

lime lynx Nov 25, 2020, 10:18 PM

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I am going by your guide btw. For the spear you say you get aphrodite, athena or artemis boons. I looked at the duos but seems like the legendary aphrodite boon would be the best?

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 10:19 PM

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I'd aim for Zeus' Aid and Smoldering Air with that, probably.

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Or any good Call + Electric Shot + Smoldering Air.

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But I'll take her t2 requirements for Unhealthy Fixation if I see them.

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They're really good boons anyway.

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You can also get Artemis' Aid without Smoldering Air and aim for Heart Rend.

lime lynx Nov 25, 2020, 10:20 PM

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I'll look those up ty.

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Artemis' Aid with Smoldering Air is anti-synergy. You definitely don't want that.

lime lynx Nov 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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cool, ty!

dry ember Nov 25, 2020, 10:22 PM

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You don't like a boon that requires a duo and sometimes do a massive 200 damage?

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What's wrong with you

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 10:23 PM

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dry ember Nov 25, 2020, 10:23 PM

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See, even better

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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@lime lynx if you're going for Artemis' Aid, make sure you wait for Greater Call on bosses, and use it when they're like stuck in an animation or something and have their back turned to you. Easy to get behind Hades when he summons urns, for example, or after any spin from him.

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Like really just hug them from behind to make sure all your arrows backstab. Way more damage that way.

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Assuming you have Shadow Presence, of course.

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And if you have Heart Rend, make sure you apply Weak before pressing Call.

lime lynx Nov 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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I haven't gotten an Aid yet, I have gotten only aphrodite boons so far, strike, crush shot, broken resolve.

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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I've really grown to like it recently. You just got make sure you use it at the right moments to get the most damage.

lime lynx Nov 25, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I think I want to try and get her legendary as it would also complete the quest 😬

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fated prophecies thing

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 10:26 PM

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You already have the requirements for it.

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Get a Special and a Dash asap.

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To fill those priority slots.

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Then just reroll any Lady Aphrodite boons you see. If you don't see it but any of her Duo Boons shows up, take that instead to increase your odds for her legendary on her next boon (because the Duo Boon will be out of the pool).

lime lynx Nov 25, 2020, 10:28 PM

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ok makes sense, ty

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Yarn of Ariadne, Refreshing Nectar, and her keepsake all increase your odds for her legendary, too.

rare kindle Nov 25, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Artemis aid is really good but it’s a call in which you really want the bar maxed out

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Because without that it doesn’t do that much damage

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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But I personally prefer switching to Coin Purse instead of keeping her keepsake because that's a free boon from a shop.

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And then just whatever after that.

rare kindle Nov 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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In elysium I’m indecisive enough about what I could use to improve my build that I like coin purse

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First two biomes, keepsake gods are good

cunning urchin Nov 25, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Acorn is always great in Elysium if you're struggling at all with the bosses.

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Hourglass is amazing, too.

static karma Nov 25, 2020, 11:32 PM

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I like acorn for styx, I sometimes put on spear point in Elysium

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If I have full DDs and like my boons I put on the Pom blossom

sullen violet Nov 26, 2020, 12:41 AM

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What should I take on guan yu?

dry ember Nov 26, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Well the stock standard is Deadly Flourish + Charged Skewer

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 1:41 AM

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Charged skewer is really nice

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Serrated edge too

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Heartbreak strike, Divine strike

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Heart rend

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Special is amazing you should go for it

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If you can't you go serrated point and berserk

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And you'll die so try again for charged skewer

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If you don't you good

sullen violet Nov 26, 2020, 1:55 AM

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I didn’t realize I don’t have as much hp until I made it to styx so I died

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Oh also

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Don't try to heal too much

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You'll die

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Dash strike - Dash strike - special is your dps rotation

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When you get charged skewer

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You'll want to special only (attack to apply weak tho) and kite ennemies back

dry shuttle Nov 26, 2020, 2:26 AM

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thoughts on the strongest fists aspect?

faint flax Nov 26, 2020, 2:28 AM

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I like quick spin on guan yu (after charged skewer)

dry ember Nov 26, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Demeter is a popular choice

whole dune Nov 26, 2020, 2:36 AM

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what kinds of aphro builds are good? ive never really liked her boons much but i think i just dont really know how to utilize them

faint flax Nov 26, 2020, 2:37 AM

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things with high base damage

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also a good enabler for priveleged status

turbid needle Nov 26, 2020, 2:44 AM

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I'm a big fan of heart rend

devout ether Nov 26, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Passion Flare is gud too

turbid needle Nov 26, 2020, 2:45 AM

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had a crazy nemesis run with it

cosmic hornet Nov 26, 2020, 2:45 AM

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would vouch for heart rend
plus 30% damage reduction is a run saver sometimes

pliant anvil Nov 26, 2020, 3:26 AM

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heart rend is really good yeah

pliant anvil Nov 26, 2020, 3:27 AM

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whole dune what kinds of aphro builds are good? ive never really liked her boons much but i...

Heart rend or smoldering air are pretty good, as is her duo boon with dio on certain weapons

feral sail Nov 26, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Slicing shot + aspect of Zeus = beyblade master build

devout ether Nov 26, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Alecto would be proud

static karma Nov 26, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Aphrodite actually has the highest damage percentage increase on her boons

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I use Aphrodite’s cast on Beowulf runs

lilac sail Nov 26, 2020, 5:45 AM

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anyone here done the tidal dash with mercury's dash boon? cause its really fun

vague ermine Nov 26, 2020, 5:59 AM

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what should i build on the hidden aspect of the bow?

opal lodge Nov 26, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Artemis attack

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the rest is relatively flexible

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aphro/dio are popular options for spec

turbid needle Nov 26, 2020, 6:05 AM

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had a rama run with aphro on special and it was wonderful

woven delta Nov 26, 2020, 6:05 AM

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I'd lean more towards Dionysus since Rama's special is basically a mini Chiron

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Ares can work too

opal lodge Nov 26, 2020, 6:08 AM

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if you go dio/aphro just pick up the duo boon and crit things

prime plover Nov 26, 2020, 6:37 AM

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question for the room: how long after first clear did you get your second? i'm finding it very annoying and difficult (esp since i'm trying to learn more than just shield)

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and even then i still suck lol

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im definitely getting to styx more consistently but i dont feel like im really learning or improving from run to run

rare kindle Nov 26, 2020, 6:40 AM

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I think it took me maybe a dozen but I was trying to diversify weapons

prime plover Nov 26, 2020, 6:40 AM

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yuh, that's where i'm at

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i found that bow + demeter chill stuff was good at crowd control but then i died to the last boss because 30 damage even though i had 15% resist :<

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i mean chiron is good at most things but yeah

lime lynx Nov 26, 2020, 7:01 AM

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What is the most commonly used build for malphon with aspect of Talos?

sullen violet Nov 26, 2020, 7:02 AM

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is there anyway to tell where demeter's vortex spawns during the thesus fight

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i have no clue

spark meteor Nov 26, 2020, 7:06 AM

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@sullen violet there'll be a brief blue circle where the blizzard will appear

river wing Nov 26, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Its where the spear lands

spark meteor Nov 26, 2020, 7:06 AM

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it shows a few seconds before the previous blizzard appears so u might miss it if the map is kinda small

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oh dumb moment i thought it was demeter trial

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uh for theseus fight

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yeah what glass said

dim plaza Nov 26, 2020, 8:33 AM

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I just have a build that can hit up to 1200 damage 😵

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With a normal sword attack

river wing Nov 26, 2020, 8:40 AM

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wow nice

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how o.o

frail schooner Nov 26, 2020, 9:02 AM

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arthur shadow slash shackle and fiery presence will do taht

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and thats boonless

river wing Nov 26, 2020, 9:12 AM

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arthur isn't a normal sword attack tho D:

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big cheats

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~~also that that's like 900+~~

novel depot Nov 26, 2020, 9:24 AM

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is drunk build or stack doom or ice build best for the gun?

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hmm maybe ice and drunk so I can get bonus attack

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Not at all

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You will "overstack" and deal 0 dmg

royal helm Nov 26, 2020, 10:21 AM

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Zeus tends to be considered the best primary on the gun, except maybe Hestia?

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 10:21 AM

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basically y

royal helm Nov 26, 2020, 10:21 AM

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Since Hestia has a 150 base shot, making % scalars quite good

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 10:21 AM

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Hestia wants Artemis

royal helm Nov 26, 2020, 10:22 AM

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500 crit zagluv

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 10:22 AM

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High % is not too bad

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but it scales so well with crits

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 10:55 AM

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Has anyone tried ||Lucifer|| with Deadly Flourish yet? (the hidden aspect of the Adamant Rail)

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I shot 2 Hellfire balls. They exploded with 871 and 961 dmg!

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They remind me of Eris Cluster Bomb + Rocket Bomb with Deadly Flourish.

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Normally, the hellfire ball explodes with just 100 dmg!

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 10:57 AM

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I'm sorry I don't know what Lucifer is dusa

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(you can spoil here mate)

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 10:58 AM

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the 4th aspect of the Gun

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 10:58 AM

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was kidding

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Gun has 2 aspects : Eris and Hestia

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 11:00 AM

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they're quite good but I think the best one is the 4th one

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try it and observe the damage when the ball explodes

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 11:15 AM

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haha

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Unfortunately my friend

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there is nothing that can beat +75% global damage

river wing Nov 26, 2020, 11:17 AM

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lucifer is really fun UwU

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 11:24 AM

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100 becomes 800 means +700%, right? Not +75%

river wing Nov 26, 2020, 11:28 AM

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he is saying that eris is really good because

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 11:28 AM

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You can't compare everything with the clunky special of lucy

river wing Nov 26, 2020, 11:28 AM

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global damage is the most powerful form of damage outside of crits

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 11:28 AM

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I mean at low heat everything's fine

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but it also means that anything can do 800 with artemis right

river wing Nov 26, 2020, 11:29 AM

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usually you only get it from hades keepsake and rush delivery. but eris aspects gives it for free

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 11:33 AM

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Ah! I see. Thanks!

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 11:36 AM

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Have you tried maxed Eris with the Zeus package ?

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 11:43 AM

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Wdym?

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Package?

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I usually get Deadly Flourish

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 11:44 AM

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Zeus attack / jolted / Zeus aid / Sea storm etc

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 11:44 AM

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Sounds interesting...

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 11:44 AM

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The idea is to get Zeus attack, Poseidon dash to aim for the duo

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Zeus scales with Zeus so you take more of him

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You spam dash strike like a not so clever guy

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(thanks, proxy)

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you can go for Aphro special to get Smoldering air, combined with Zeus aid

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 11:47 AM

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I like Splitting Bolt ⚡

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 11:47 AM

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Rocket bomb / cluster rocket for hammer

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It's nice but a pain to get on Eris tho

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 11:49 AM

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Lucifer with Divine Flourish is funny

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 11:49 AM

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yeah it works

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 11:49 AM

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The enemies just kill themselves

unborn pebble Nov 26, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Do you know what it's called when you pick a maxed Chiron, start with a hammer that gives Concentrated Volley, get a special +% dmg boon from Chaos, an epic Deadly Flourish from Artemis (now lvl 4), Aphro Attack, and Heart Rend (Arty-Aphro duo) before the Furies? Pog.

And the new name when hammer in first Elysium room gives you Relentless Volley? Big Nuts.

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Especially when your previous bow runs were you trying to force a decent casting build on Hera Bow and getting screwed by room layout.

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Yeah it's called a low heat run

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siondab

unborn pebble Nov 26, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Heat 10 xD

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 12:57 PM

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I'm kidding btw, enjoy your run buddy

unborn pebble Nov 26, 2020, 12:59 PM

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Thanks. Hopefully this will carry me through EM4 Hades CapooSweat

hybrid galleon Nov 26, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Cheese mode will work

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🧀 bow ftw

primal hazel Nov 26, 2020, 1:49 PM

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unborn pebble Heat 10 xD

As Astaos said squirtnya

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Hunter dash doesn't affect hestia shot right?

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Nvm seems like it does

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 1:55 PM

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should

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wtf

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I died yesterday

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at a trial

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I load my save I'm back at it

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 1:56 PM

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lucky

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 1:56 PM

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well

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I had a good build and I threw my run bc tired

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but how the

primal hazel Nov 26, 2020, 1:57 PM

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I was just wondering cause in a run it seemed like it didn't affect it
Turns out: I'm so used to dash striking I have to force myself to not do it

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I'm gonna tell Greg you cheated squirtnya

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 1:57 PM

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I don't remember

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 1:57 PM

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I use Dash Strike for the sword

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 1:57 PM

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I did quit normally

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 1:58 PM

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Did you go to the next room?

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 1:58 PM

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No I died in this very room

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during the trial

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 1:58 PM

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weird

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 1:58 PM

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And now I get to redo it

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 1:58 PM

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tell tech-support

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 1:59 PM

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I will

primal hazel Nov 26, 2020, 1:59 PM

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The fates have greater plans for you

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 2:00 PM

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proven osprey Hestia wants Artemis

No. Bad @proven osprey. Bad. 🔫 dusa

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We only do Lady Aphrodite builds around these parts.

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Your gun is not enough to blind me from the truth

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Heathen.

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Hahaha.

primal hazel Nov 26, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Rejoice for artemis

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Not saying Aphrodite is not the greatest, don't get me wrong

finite socket Nov 26, 2020, 2:06 PM

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What is this?

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You hate fat crits?

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Shame

primal hazel Nov 26, 2020, 2:07 PM

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She likes thicc aphro

proven osprey Nov 26, 2020, 2:24 PM

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The sweet sensation of picking Charged Skewer

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It sings to me

primal hazel Nov 26, 2020, 2:27 PM

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residentzag

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 2:48 PM

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And Heartbreak Flourish.

primal hazel Nov 26, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Pfft it's all about that artemis flourish

unborn pebble Nov 26, 2020, 3:05 PM

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HECK YEAH!!! First EM4 win with bow against Hades!!!

north comet Nov 26, 2020, 3:09 PM

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i love getting 4-sacked when im a minute ahead on pb pace :)))

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Good.

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After seeing your feedback, they'll increase the chances for that for everyone.

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Does ||Rama|| works well with Artemis?

north comet Nov 26, 2020, 3:11 PM

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residentzag

unborn pebble Nov 26, 2020, 3:12 PM

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What does "4-sacked" mean?

barren otter Nov 26, 2020, 3:12 PM

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when you get a satyr sack in the fourth tunnel in Styx

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 3:14 PM

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warm snow Does ||Rama|| works well with Artemis?

Absolutely! That's the go-to Attack for high heat.

barren otter Nov 26, 2020, 3:15 PM

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what about Artemis on Rama special? dusa

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 3:15 PM

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what about... special?

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Not really. It doesn't really have good base damage.

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 3:15 PM

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it has fast special...?

river wing Nov 26, 2020, 3:16 PM

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yes, it does have fast attack

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 3:16 PM

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remind me of Chiron Atermis

river wing Nov 26, 2020, 3:16 PM

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but you want to give % scaling to stuff with a good base dps

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Sure, it's fast. But you'll do a whole lot more damage with Thunder Flourish or Drunken Flourish.

river wing Nov 26, 2020, 3:17 PM

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i do mean special

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 3:17 PM

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sorry, special, not attack

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Thanks @cunning urchin

river wing Nov 26, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Mm a zeus special will increase your damage of special by a many times over the base damage

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way more than any of the % buffs

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 3:18 PM

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so I should use Drunken Flourish?

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Drunken Flourish with Deadly Strike would make a very strong combo.

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Thx

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 3:19 PM

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You can get their Duo Boon for even more crits.

weak zinc Nov 26, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Can anyone recommend a spear build? I suck with it hard

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Which spear?

weak zinc Nov 26, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Aby

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Any

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Just failed with a level 8 hades curse, the gameplay is just bad for me

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 3:20 PM

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I use Drunken Strike, attack like crazy

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 3:20 PM

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My build guide for base weapons is pinned in #h1-for-new-players. Maybe that's a good starting point for you?

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I assume your spears aren't leveled very high yet anyway.

weak zinc Nov 26, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Not at all, it's the last weapon I haven't killed hades with yet

river wing Nov 26, 2020, 3:24 PM

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so your spears are leveled? Don't quite understand

weak zinc Nov 26, 2020, 3:25 PM

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I don't find spear gameplay enjoyable, my spear is not leveled at all.

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Spear has 4 aspects

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you spend Titan Blood(s) to upgrade "level up" them

river wing Nov 26, 2020, 3:39 PM

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he knows. i was just very confused with "Not at all" which was why I asked. Thought he was disagreeing with nyaa's assumption that the spears arn't leveld.

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which would be really confusing if that was the case

final ginkgo Nov 26, 2020, 3:45 PM

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if you were able to get every possible bonus, how high does the Lambent Plume go?

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before ||Hades|| obviously since it doesn't matter after that point

river wing Nov 26, 2020, 3:51 PM

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hmm 36 rooms minus 3 pre-boss rooms. 33? I can't rmb how styx works, i think only last room counts. So 38? 45.6% then?

final ginkgo Nov 26, 2020, 3:52 PM

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does Erebus count?

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if so then that's a possible 1 per floor

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and yeah I can confirm right now, only last room of Styx counts

uneven ridge Nov 26, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Hi, is tge chaos shield regular attack's knockback considered a knowback? As it can prock rapture etc?

final ginkgo Nov 26, 2020, 3:56 PM

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considering there's a hammer upgrade that removes the regular attack's knockback, I'd say probably

warm snow Nov 26, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Like this?
https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/c9j809/went_for_a_max_lambent_plume_run_managed_to_get/

cosmic hornet Nov 26, 2020, 3:59 PM

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how many rooms are there per path in ||styx||

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i swear its 5 including ||final/sack||

final ginkgo Nov 26, 2020, 3:59 PM

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4 with one large one at the end I believe

cosmic hornet Nov 26, 2020, 4:00 PM

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is it sometimes 4? or am i flunking math

final ginkgo Nov 26, 2020, 4:00 PM

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I don't think we have to spoiler tag Styx

cosmic hornet Nov 26, 2020, 4:00 PM

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ah okay

final ginkgo Nov 26, 2020, 4:00 PM

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you can wiki it, or wait 20 minutes for me to get there and tell you

cosmic hornet Nov 26, 2020, 4:00 PM

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nah, i’ll wiki

final ginkgo Nov 26, 2020, 4:09 PM

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@warm snow that's from a year ago

ornate prawn Nov 26, 2020, 4:10 PM

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oh wow
that must have been back when styx didn't exist

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i was thinking "why is the victory screen in elysium?"

final ginkgo Nov 26, 2020, 4:11 PM

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the one thing that made me do a double take (aside from the massive number) was that it ended in .5, which would be impossible with a max level Plume

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okay technically possible if you started with a level 2 Plume then levelled it up mid-run

heavy grotto Nov 26, 2020, 4:21 PM

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yesterday i had the most broken run i've ever had

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heroic greatest reflex (+4 dashes) and divine dash from athena

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hades didn't hit me one single time

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plus divine protection (legendary boon from athena)

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Greatest Reflex is amazing.

rare kindle Nov 26, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Even common it’s fairly good

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Dash away from hades

turbid needle Nov 26, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Second best boon in the game.

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Second best?

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After?

opal lodge Nov 26, 2020, 4:27 PM

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huge catch, clearly

heavy grotto Nov 26, 2020, 4:30 PM

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of course, what else

final ginkgo Nov 26, 2020, 4:59 PM

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which Call would you all consider the best?

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my vote goes to Arte

rare kindle Nov 26, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Yeah, artemis’s call is really good

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Zeus' Aid.

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Dionysus' Aid.

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Aphrodite's Aid.

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One of those three.

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Two can unlock Smoldering Air easily, and Dionysus' Aid is Dionysus' Aid.

opal lodge Nov 26, 2020, 5:07 PM

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^

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poseidon aid/athena aid are good on high heat

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ive come around to poseidon aid/rip current being one of the best for room clear

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 5:09 PM

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It just suffers a lot with DC2, but yeah, it's really strong.

sonic mural Nov 26, 2020, 5:09 PM

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hades call is p good too

turbid needle Nov 26, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Divine Dash.

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 5:17 PM

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I think I might rate Greatest Reflex higher, but they're definitely both top 2.

final ginkgo Nov 26, 2020, 5:23 PM

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hold up, Zeus?

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really now?

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I find his the worst

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Heartbreak Strike/Flourish + Zeus' Aid + Smoldering Air is a build that can clear any heat on most aspects.

final ginkgo Nov 26, 2020, 5:46 PM

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I just don't think it does enough damage

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I'll have to try it again at some point

raw raven Nov 26, 2020, 5:51 PM

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do the Artemis Dash/chaos dash strike boons buff the Fists dash special?

languid tundra Nov 26, 2020, 5:52 PM

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okay so the aspect of rama, how the hell do I use it?
it just seems so slow and clunky, and even tho it's supposedly good at dealing with multiple enemies thanks to sharing the damage, you need to mark them first, and then attack them with the slow-ass m1
I'm not sure if this is my fault or something but it feels very bad

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 5:52 PM

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final ginkgo I just don't think it does enough damage

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gm04kroX-p7lMNSmNcFdKCw4mmff-5i83QsKVwOBNDA/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

Hades Call Damage

Single-Target Damage

LESSER CALL,Aphrodite,Ares,Artemis,Athena,Demeter,Dionysus,Poseidon,Zeus
Hits,12,1,20,7,2,7
Tics of Damage,12,1,20,40,2,7
Duration Sec,5,1.2,1.5,5,1.5,1.2,1.5
Rarity Bonus Dur %,0.1,0.1
Crit Chance,0.35
God Gauge %,25,25,20,25,25,25,25,25
Base Damage,30,100,10,15,250,60
Rari...

languid tundra Nov 26, 2020, 5:52 PM

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copying from spoiler chat btw because I'm not sure where to send it

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 5:53 PM

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You don't need to spoiler-tag aspects in this channel.

languid tundra Nov 26, 2020, 5:53 PM

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aight then

final ginkgo Nov 26, 2020, 5:53 PM

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you tag multiple enemies with special then try to hit multiple with main attack

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that way you deal massive damage to everyone tagged

languid tundra Nov 26, 2020, 5:54 PM

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eh but thats like

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not very practical

final ginkgo Nov 26, 2020, 5:54 PM

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trust me. it is.

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Do Dash-Strikes rather than regular Attacks.

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Most of the time.

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They charge faster.

languid tundra Nov 26, 2020, 5:55 PM

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I mean, I already do that

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but fair enough, I'll try it out

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 5:56 PM

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You could watch some of Tailesque's or ledgerdamayn's runs for how to use it effectively. They're the top Rama players.

languid tundra Nov 26, 2020, 5:56 PM

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aight, thanks a lot

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 5:56 PM

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E.g., this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2o3t2MHBBs

YouTube

Tailesque

Hades - Unseeded 55 Heat with Extreme Measures 4 - Aspect of Rama (...

Thank you Athena for basically letting me win this one when I normally would have blew it. She really came through for me in Elysium, big time. Anyways, EM4 Sneak is the worst, and the entirety of phase 3 was a nail biter. Enjoy. Also...

Apparently Antos is a weird summon choice. I'm mostly using him because I had filled out his codex entry rec...

▶ Play video

languid tundra Nov 26, 2020, 5:57 PM

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btw do we have like a list of people that I can watch for other weapons?

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for example, I have quite a bit of trouble with using the spear

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like every aspect of it

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 5:58 PM

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There's a pinned spreadsheet of high-heat clears with links to videos in #h1-high-heat-strategies.

languid tundra Nov 26, 2020, 5:58 PM

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thanks!

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:14 PM

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guys, what are most common builds on Gilgamesh?

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:19 PM

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I honestly think poseidon has the best cast in the game

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:22 PM

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no tips for gilgamesh builds?

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:22 PM

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MercifulEnd

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Truth be told I don’t know what to go with apart from that

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:23 PM

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doom everywhere?

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Athena's Dash?

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Ares attack, Athena special then get dash

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Instant doom procs

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Problem is, Demeter does this better arguably, and Gilgamesh is pretty weak outside of this one build

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Why Athena on Special? To trigger ME faster?

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:24 PM

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You can’t get Me to show up with just the dash

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Once you get ME + divine dash you will never use the special again

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:24 PM

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so no maiming?

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Well why use the special when you do so much damage from dash striking

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Gilg is sort of in a weird place in terms of viablility

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Heartbreak Strike and Deadly Strike are pretty good.

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:26 PM

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I remember I have tried AA build on Gilga with Heroic Demeter attack and Heroic Hermes attack speed and it was still meeeeeeh

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Yeah that can work

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:27 PM

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that maim thing is a weird mechanic imo

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Maim damage is only affected by global damage modifiers, right?

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or is it affected by %special damage modifier too

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I am guessing it's not

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 6:29 PM

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languid dagger I remember I have tried AA build on Gilga with Heroic Demeter attack and Heroic ...

Frost Strike is kinda low damage.

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:29 PM

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The main issue with maim is it takes so long for it to deal the burst

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And yeah

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It has 2 attributes that don’t work well each other

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:29 PM

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cunning urchin Frost Strike is kinda low damage.

yep, I was going with mom's flower and taking whatever, it was just 13th heat

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:29 PM

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With the boost in damage you will most likely kill any non-boss before the main does the burst

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But on bosses it becomes really risky

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:30 PM

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yeah, getting 50% more incoming damage, lol

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but hey, you can always go for pure splash dash build on Gilga

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:30 PM

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I don’t really know what to make of that aspect

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I find it to be pretty underwhelming and bland for the last aspect added into the game

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:33 PM

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probably weakest 4th aspect

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or maybe Guan Yu is the weakest

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Guan yu is at least interesting

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I think it’s good enough

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:34 PM

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penalty is too huge and spin attack does not fit the gameplay of Hades when you get interrupted quite a bit

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:34 PM

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That’s why you use the special

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Guan Yu is really good.

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Guan yu basically starts with explosive launcher

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:34 PM

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I know, I saw top clears with it, but I find special gameplay boring

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spinny thing is super fun

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I wish it was implemented better

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:35 PM

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I like using spin as a more defensive tool

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With Athena attack

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 6:35 PM

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I just use it to heal up sometimes on the last enemies in a wave if I've made some mistakes.

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Does guan yu dash strike do any more or less damage than the other spears?

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Or just because I can.

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It has higher base damage.

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:36 PM

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But gilg’s has lower base damage... for some reason

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:37 PM

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yeah, dashing and striking with gilga sucks

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 6:37 PM

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I guess they wanted one that gets away from Dash-Strike spam.

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It plays different enough from the other Malphon Aspects, at least.

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:37 PM

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But regular attack with gilga isn’t good either

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:37 PM

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but what do you do, slow ass attacks

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 6:38 PM

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I dunno, I kinda like it more now since they buffed the Dash-Strike input buffer.

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Such a strangely balanced weapon

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:38 PM

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(balanced it's not)

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 6:38 PM

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But I was honestly very disappointed when it was initially released.

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I think it's fine, balance wise.

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:38 PM

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compared to amazing Rama bow

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or fun Arthur

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Rama, Beowulf

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:39 PM

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or even okay-ish Luci

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Poor lucy, forced to compete with a broken aspect

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 6:39 PM

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I just wanted anything but "slower but heavier" for the hidden aspect for Malphon.

solid cairn Nov 26, 2020, 6:40 PM

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They made it work for the others

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 6:40 PM

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I was just hoping it didn't go in the same direction again.

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:40 PM

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Luci's special mechanics is a bit weird to me

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I took Zeus on it and it started exploding instantly

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I didn't fully understand what was happening

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had 3 rockets + Zeus special

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also took Luci's special for 250% extra radiate damage or smth

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Apparently that's just what happens when enemies come close to the flares specifically with Thunder Flourish on it.

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:41 PM

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thought it was completely useless

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what hammers to go for on Luci btw?

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 6:43 PM

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I have no idea. dusa

proud topaz Nov 26, 2020, 6:43 PM

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i like the faster damage ramp one

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can't tell you if they're good ones yet though

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:44 PM

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I tried damage ramp one

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didn't feel it at all tbh

proud topaz Nov 26, 2020, 6:44 PM

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yeah next up i'm going to spend some more time with luci

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:44 PM

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with how Hades works there are not too many opportunities to stand still for so long

proud topaz Nov 26, 2020, 6:45 PM

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i'm ambivalent on the triple beam

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:45 PM

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I am thinking maybe going full Poseidon and just pushing everyone around

proud topaz Nov 26, 2020, 6:46 PM

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scuttlebutt is that Poseidon is bad on luci

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 6:46 PM

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You can keep Attacking during your Dash with Lucifer Aspect.

proud topaz Nov 26, 2020, 6:47 PM

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the problem i have had with luci in the past is the auto-aim priority with the special

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:47 PM

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I don't have auto-aim on pc )

proud topaz Nov 26, 2020, 6:48 PM

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yeah maybe i need to turn it off on pc

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 6:49 PM

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can you actually turn it on? I would actually like to play with it, lol

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looking at how Haelian makes it look easy with the bow

proud topaz Nov 26, 2020, 6:49 PM

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well, i'm not sure. i play with controller

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and with luci, the beam snaps to enemies before it snaps to the hellfire ball things

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it's not an aggressive auto-aim like on switch

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but there is some sort of assist there, idk

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 7:25 PM

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how does Thunder Flourish work with Aspect of Chaos? Does every shield proc it?

unkempt pagoda Nov 26, 2020, 7:26 PM

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thunder flourish has an internal cooldown of .2 seconds

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 7:27 PM

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ah, so useless on Chaos, damn

dry ember Nov 26, 2020, 7:29 PM

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not really

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internal cd is applied on single target

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 7:29 PM

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wait, so every of five shields can proc it?

dry ember Nov 26, 2020, 7:29 PM

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if multiple shield hits multiple targets, all lightning will proc

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yes

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 7:29 PM

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damn, and I already reset the run

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oh well

dry ember Nov 26, 2020, 7:29 PM

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if it's all on one target, some will proc

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if they hit different ones, all will proc

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 7:30 PM

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but run still has Piercing Shot hammer

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just love this one on Chaos

languid dagger Nov 26, 2020, 7:49 PM

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got poseidon/zeus going already in Asphodel with Seastorm

unborn pebble Nov 26, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Quick question, does the chain lighting on zeu attack also have an internal cooldown?

unkempt pagoda Nov 26, 2020, 7:51 PM

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nope

lime mountain Nov 26, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Is lightning on bow of chiron special good

rare kindle Nov 26, 2020, 8:31 PM

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There’s an internal cool down on lightning so apparently it’s not as good as you would think

lime mountain Nov 26, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Nooooooooooooooo (myy dreams of op are gonnne

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)

dry ember Nov 26, 2020, 8:34 PM

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it's still one of the better options you can take

lime mountain Nov 26, 2020, 8:34 PM

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what could be better tho

clear path Nov 26, 2020, 8:34 PM

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what's the most basic of cast builds if i wanna try one out. i'm north of 30 clears but haven't yet tried any

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poseidon sword / electric shot perhaps?

dry ember Nov 26, 2020, 8:34 PM

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probably arte spec?

clear path Nov 26, 2020, 8:34 PM

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honestly i kinda wanna try a cast build out because i never cast and i feel bad about it

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not using boiling blood

lime mountain Nov 26, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Try third aspect bow

clear path Nov 26, 2020, 8:35 PM

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been trying to but the muscle memory aint there

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ok cool

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next time dark thirst is up i will

rare kindle Nov 26, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Yeah, Poseidon sword would be good

lime mountain Nov 26, 2020, 8:35 PM

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How do you use that well

opal lodge Nov 26, 2020, 8:36 PM

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clear path what's the most basic of cast builds if i wanna try one out. i'm north of 30 cle...

poseidon sword electric shot or flood shot is very easy to pick up

rare kindle Nov 26, 2020, 8:36 PM

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I like Demeter’s cast, even though it requires heavy investment to be good, because crystal beams go brr

opal lodge Nov 26, 2020, 8:36 PM

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snow burst is always good on cast builds

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for poseidon sword you just want a cast that lodges IMO

lime mountain Nov 26, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Get the three percent crit chance on that and it becomes god

opal lodge Nov 26, 2020, 8:36 PM

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otherwise just play achilles

lime mountain Nov 26, 2020, 8:36 PM

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what

clear path Nov 26, 2020, 8:36 PM

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i actually kinda tried it once but

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i am not a very advanced player honestly

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i basically went from clearing 7 heat easily to dying at alecto when i tried cast build

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so yea

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lol

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or nearly dying

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its clearly a git gud issue but yea i wanna pick it up. thanks for the suggestions

lime mountain Nov 26, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Im good at all ecept bow Poseidon sword , shield (doing decent damage ) , achilles spear

barren plover Nov 26, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I like using all the weapons but, its the boons and which ones to go for confusing me

rare kindle Nov 26, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Gods have good synergy within themselves, generally

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Zeus is good on fast hitting weapons, while Aphrodite is good on weapons with big, slow hits

barren plover Nov 26, 2020, 10:19 PM

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i just go whatever god i mainly see and see if i can get duo boon

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PLus how do duo boons work

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i have 1 of both of the gods boons but i still dont see duo

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is it just luck based

rare kindle Nov 26, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Partially but you also need to fulfill certain requirements first

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 10:23 PM

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They have specific requirements. Usually one of their core boons.

urban trout Nov 26, 2020, 10:24 PM

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what calls is smouldering air good with?

barren plover Nov 26, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Ik that but what ur saying is it that is all random

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 10:26 PM

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If you have their requirements, then it's just essentially RNG, yeah. But filling your priority slots will improve your chances.

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Because 1 slot they offer will always be for a priority slot until you have them all filled

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That is, Attack, Special, Cast, Dash. Those four.

glossy fossil Nov 26, 2020, 10:28 PM

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what works well with aspect of zeus?

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kindve thinking maybe zeus or dionysus on special?

rare kindle Nov 26, 2020, 10:29 PM

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And, like, if it modifies another god’s cast, you need that other cast first

barren plover Nov 26, 2020, 10:37 PM

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so i should fill them all first

rare kindle Nov 26, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Yeah, but sometimes you don’t want to fill because it might give you another undesirable duo

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Yeah.

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 10:54 PM

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urban trout what calls is smouldering air good with?

Anything except Artemis' Aid.

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Artemis' Aid is way better as a Greater Call.

urban trout Nov 26, 2020, 11:00 PM

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@cunning urchin even Athena's?

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or aphrodite's

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Yes. They're amazing with Smoldering Air.

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It charges a Lesser Call in 5 seconds.

urban trout Nov 26, 2020, 11:02 PM

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but being unable to use aphrodite's greater call kind of sucks

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Not if you can just Charm-lock Hades.

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Or have Theseus and Asterius kill each other in a couple hits for you.

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Or just Charm any nasty Chariots or Giant Rats to just kill everything for you.

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Or Elite Longspears that just jab everything.

urban trout Nov 26, 2020, 11:05 PM

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for enemies it must be great but bosses get charmed for like half a second

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Or have Hades's summons turn on him.

analog ermine Nov 26, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Game is so hard

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I think I am at my ten run and I still can’t beat third boss

urban trout Nov 26, 2020, 11:05 PM

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o that seems pretty good

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 11:06 PM

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It's definitely longer than half a second.

devout ether Nov 26, 2020, 11:06 PM

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analog ermine I think I am at my ten run and I still can’t beat third boss

Lots of people beat the game after 30 or 40 runs, don't be discouraged!

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You are doing great

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 11:06 PM

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EM Asterius can actually just murder Theseus with like a one spin.

analog ermine Nov 26, 2020, 11:07 PM

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What do you do once game is finish?

cunning urchin Nov 26, 2020, 11:07 PM

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And EM Theseus's bombs take a huge chunk of life off Asterius.

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Hades just ends up hardly getting to fight you.

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Especially if you have Epic and like 1–2 poms on it.

devout ether Nov 26, 2020, 11:09 PM

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analog ermine What do you do once game is finish?

You finish the game again

analog ermine Nov 26, 2020, 11:10 PM

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But harder difficulty and reward

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Right?

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It can’t be the same run all the time ?

dry ember Nov 26, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Yeah we have many end game options.

analog ermine Nov 26, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Dope

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I got a question

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I assume shield is broken right

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Because of block/charge

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Or i am wrong

dry ember Nov 26, 2020, 11:12 PM

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There are a couple of milestone:

First Escape
End Credit
Epilogue
EM4/High jeat climb

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You are right about shield being quite good

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But broken is a strong word.

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Many people use shield but not for the blocking

analog ermine Nov 26, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Which one

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The shield throw is so cool imo

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Idk if I should invest my blood into shield or sword

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I like both

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I just don’t like bow honestly

dry ember Nov 26, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Throw is one, if you keep play you will see other options available, too

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Such as a cast shield

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Just keep playing. You will see.

analog ermine Nov 26, 2020, 11:14 PM

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🤟

turbid needle Nov 26, 2020, 11:15 PM

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hidden shield with charged shot 😩

static karma Nov 26, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Does anyone have any tips on fighting EM3 better, preferably losing no death defies?

torpid abyss Nov 27, 2020, 12:07 AM

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What would you pick
A legendary boon
Or
Literally the first good attack boon you find

proven osprey Nov 27, 2020, 12:07 AM

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really depends on the aspect build etc

proud topaz Nov 27, 2020, 12:08 AM

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depends. where?

torpid abyss Nov 27, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Rama bow

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It was Athena epic attack or athena legendary

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And i found literally no attack boons till this point

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Save for a demeter common

proven osprey Nov 27, 2020, 12:08 AM

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static karma Does anyone have any tips on fighting EM3 better, preferably losing no death def...

Tbh, not really... Besides practicing I mean. Focus Asterius as always, Theseus should not bother you too much

hollow wasp Nov 27, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Anyone here know why RARE CROP does not work on Hermes Boons even though the probably should?

torpid abyss Nov 27, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Hmh

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I really wish i could like

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Reset the seed

hollow wasp Nov 27, 2020, 12:28 AM

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What do you mean, reset the seed, Rare Crop doesnt work with Hermes boons, I have checked over 5 times

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Oh sorry ray thought you were talking to me

torpid abyss Nov 27, 2020, 12:29 AM

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I mean that i don't want to see Poseidon with 2 commons and a rare as my first boon

main osprey Nov 27, 2020, 12:29 AM

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torpid abyss Reset the seed

I mean, if you suicide you can get a new seed it'll just break your streak xD

torpid abyss Nov 27, 2020, 12:29 AM

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That's kinda slow...

main osprey Nov 27, 2020, 12:30 AM

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not really, you can reset the mirror and pick up certain pact options to die quickly in the second room of a run

hollow wasp Nov 27, 2020, 12:30 AM

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@main osprey Do you know if I could report a bug? to one of the developers or something?

main osprey Nov 27, 2020, 12:30 AM

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@dry ember sorry for the ping, do you know about Rare Crop on Hermes boons?

heavy grotto Nov 27, 2020, 12:31 AM

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hi i just got the mission of defeating hades with the default blade (i'll tryna not spoil it)
can you guys recommend some good builds? cause i suck with the sword

main osprey Nov 27, 2020, 12:31 AM

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hollow wasp <@!132661721922797569> Do you know if I could report a bug? to one of the develo...

you can report a bug with f10 if you're on PC, otherwise dropping a message in #h1-tech-support is your best bet ^.^" (I know I just sent you here from there xD)

heavy grotto Nov 27, 2020, 12:31 AM

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also sorry for the bad english haha, not my main lenguage

dry ember Nov 27, 2020, 12:32 AM

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main osprey <@!162305901892599809> sorry for the ping, do you know about Rare Crop on Hermes...

what specifically?

main osprey Nov 27, 2020, 12:32 AM

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if Rare Crop can affect them

dry ember Nov 27, 2020, 12:33 AM

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yes

hollow wasp Nov 27, 2020, 12:33 AM

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As avid fan of Rare Crop I would like to know why Rare Crop does not affect Hermes Boons

main osprey Nov 27, 2020, 12:33 AM

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alright--then yeah, Gunther, you can report that with f10 if you're on PC

hollow wasp Nov 27, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Hmm F10 doesnt seem to be working

main osprey Nov 27, 2020, 12:34 AM

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you may need to alt+tab to find the bug report window

hollow wasp Nov 27, 2020, 12:35 AM

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ok wait

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Im only alt + tabbing back into discord

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and you do mean the F10 button on the top of the screen right? @main osprey

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Keyboard sorry

main osprey Nov 27, 2020, 12:37 AM

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yup

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when you press it, does the screen freeze?

hollow wasp Nov 27, 2020, 12:38 AM

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No

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Nothing Happens

main osprey Nov 27, 2020, 12:38 AM

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heavy grotto hi i just got the mission of defeating hades with the default blade (i'll tryna ...

aphrodite on attack is good, and Athena dash is always good

main osprey Nov 27, 2020, 12:38 AM

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hollow wasp Nothing Happens

are you on PC?

hollow wasp Nov 27, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Im on a windows 10 PC

main osprey Nov 27, 2020, 12:40 AM

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could you check the controls menu in-game?

hollow wasp Nov 27, 2020, 12:40 AM

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ok wait

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I changed it, it works now

urban trout Nov 27, 2020, 1:08 AM

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oof, poseidon call or dash?

distant oar Nov 27, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Dash

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My favorites call is artemis mmmm

river wing Nov 27, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Rare crop is fixed in beta branch, no need to f10

rare kindle Nov 27, 2020, 1:33 AM

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I normally go with his dash, his call is a little too annoying for me to control

unkempt pagoda Nov 27, 2020, 1:40 AM

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most definitely call

devout ether Nov 27, 2020, 2:52 AM

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Dash for damage and speed, Call for survivability

analog ermine Nov 27, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Hi what is best weapon to invest between shield
and sword

royal helm Nov 27, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Depends on what you enjoy...
Nemesis for primary, Poseidon for cast builds, Arthur for attack builds
Shield: Beo is the cast, Chaos is the special, zag is an attack build and Zeus is kind of hybrid

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Beo and Arthur are both pretty easy to play... in terms of reward for input

turbid needle Nov 27, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Both weapons are very good, they have similar ceilings but the sword has a way higher skill floor.

torpid abyss Nov 27, 2020, 3:13 AM

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The shield has quite a lot of upsides tho

turbid needle Nov 27, 2020, 3:13 AM

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If you're feeling like Hades is your game than use whatever, but if you want more defense while you learn how to play something this fast-paced I'd recommend starting with the shield.

torpid abyss Nov 27, 2020, 3:13 AM

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The best part of the shield is that you don't have to be an adult to use one

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It's for all aegis

pliant anvil Nov 27, 2020, 3:23 AM

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torpid abyss It's for all aegis

BOOOOOO

torpid abyss Nov 27, 2020, 3:23 AM

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I'm gonna be here all week

main osprey Nov 27, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Please stay :3

woven delta Nov 27, 2020, 3:52 AM

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So what weapon and aspect would you guys say is best for getting that achievement for getting 30% with Thanatos' keepsake?

turbid needle Nov 27, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Likely Chiron aspect of Bow

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Or just bow in general

river wing Nov 27, 2020, 3:54 AM

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hestia too

turbid needle Nov 27, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Rail's also a good second choice yeah

river wing Nov 27, 2020, 3:55 AM

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chaos should be pretty safe if you take your time

torpid wren Nov 27, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Question about Shields... there are enemies that can hit you through the block right? i feel like strongspears in Elysium can... and maybe Hades too? but that could have been poor positioning

unkempt pagoda Nov 27, 2020, 6:26 AM

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don't think there's any unblockable attacks from zag's side, could just be weird angling

torpid wren Nov 27, 2020, 6:26 AM

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yeah it must be

royal helm Nov 27, 2020, 6:29 AM

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I've not found any except ground AOEs... like lava, traps and the sisters red circles

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You can even block Hade's skull ripple explosion... which I thought would be a ground AOE

warm snow Nov 27, 2020, 6:34 AM

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shield can block Asterius' bull rush

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very useful for me

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you can release the attack button to rush, it's better than dash sometimes

lilac nebula Nov 27, 2020, 6:38 AM

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I've seen a lot of people call athena dash op, but i don't really understand why? It seems like an okay choice to deal some extra damage while dodging, but it doesn't seem to be any better than attack, special or cast?

royal helm Nov 27, 2020, 6:41 AM

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More I-frames + i-frames while doing dash dps

spark tulip Nov 27, 2020, 6:41 AM

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I don't think it's OP. I think many people consider Poseidon dash better for damage reasons.

royal helm Nov 27, 2020, 6:41 AM

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Splash dash definitely pushes more DPS... but Athena dash keeps you alive

lilac nebula Nov 27, 2020, 6:41 AM

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Oh, i didn't know it gave more i-frames

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Didn't notice any increase...

midnight scaffold Nov 27, 2020, 6:41 AM

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it helps a lot with projectiles

royal helm Nov 27, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Well, it preserves them...
So you have Hammers like Serrated Point on the Spear... where you'll lose your i-frames in the dash for inputting any attack command

spark tulip Nov 27, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Yeah it's a trade off, because doing more damage is also preventing damage.

royal helm Nov 27, 2020, 6:42 AM

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I don't have the numbers behind how long you're invincible with what the high heat players call an "empty dash" (no inputs)
vs a dash with an input with Athena's dash

spark tulip Nov 27, 2020, 6:42 AM

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But only when you're actually dashing into an enemy

royal helm Nov 27, 2020, 6:43 AM

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But if you input commands during dash, you do lose i-frames

lilac nebula Nov 27, 2020, 6:43 AM

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Oh. I did not know dash attack lost you i-frames... i just thought my timing was bad

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Thank you for the answers

weak vapor Nov 27, 2020, 7:09 AM

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whats a good build for varatha?

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i dont have any attacks and i have everyting but zeus

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i normally go artemis/aphrodite with serrated point

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my current build has insane dps at the cost of some mobility

royal helm Nov 27, 2020, 7:12 AM

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That's usually a good build...

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Another option is Artemis/Athena for Deadly Reversal as well

weak vapor Nov 27, 2020, 7:14 AM

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yeah

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i mean anything other than serrated tip abuse

woven delta Nov 27, 2020, 7:16 AM

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I'm assuming in that case, it's Athena on attack and Artemis on special or something?

warm snow Nov 27, 2020, 7:40 AM

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get || Guan Yu || with Deadly Flourish, get hammers if you can

cunning urchin Nov 27, 2020, 7:45 AM

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Flurry Jab and Exploding Launcher are really good hammers for spear.

spiral tree Nov 27, 2020, 7:50 AM

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thoughts?

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https://brightrockmedia.com/2020/10/08/best-hades-bow-aspects/

Best Hades Bow Aspect TIER LIST - Bright Rock Media

Wondering what the best Hades bow aspect is? This Hades Bow Aspect Guide is the guide for you. Best Hades Bow Aspects broken down & reviewed!

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putting chiron as #1 aspect by a mile