eg. Ares' doom buffs won't appear if you don't have any boons that give the doom effect
#h1-builds-and-combat
next moss
@soft mountain you will quickly unlock something that allows you to see the boon requirements in the menu
next moss
🍷
stable grotto
For real?
narrow rampart
aspect of chiron: dio special with aphro attack
narrow rampart
could go Arty dash
get all their duo boons
ares cast/call if you're feeling lucky
and get the ares/Dio boon
m a x i m u m h a n g o v e r
next moss
i'm not a high heat player at all
but base bow kinda requires a hammer for me to be viable
narrow rampart
mmm yeah pretty much tbh
onyx folio
big agree
hollow folio
peek a boo ares special/ dionysus special shotgun
narrow rampart
it feels pretty hammer dependant, but also hammers on bow feel like a much bigger spike in damage
onyx folio
special feels pretty garbo without status pacts
onyx folio
counterpoint: athena everything
onyx folio
seriously deflect is bonkers
narrow rampart
ye
next moss
athena everything yeah
narrow rampart
"death is inevitable"
athena: allow me to introduce myself
next moss
last run i did yesterday i saw athena dash common and athena special epic
guess what i took
narrow rampart
lmao
onyx folio
athena dash is disgustingly good for a common
its like the only dash thats immediately survivability 100
the rest are fairly underwhelming tbh
next moss
oh btw
narrow rampart
Poseidon dash run only
onyx folio
no thats real
next moss
i mean i wasn't mad at all
narrow rampart
the particular event happens this one time
onyx folio
arent both of his legendaries weird gimmick ones
next moss
this sold for 425 
narrow rampart
every time you want that legendary again you have to go fishing for it, just like any other
next moss
i can already feel fishing will be the last fates thing i finish
narrow rampart
ye Poseidon boons suck
onyx folio
i had the most poggers run recently
narrow rampart
his boons that give u stuff are better than his combat boons imo
onyx folio
with the funny gun and 5 explosion special
the problem was i only ever got 1 special boon the entire run
guess whose it was
livid comet
aight, I suicided cuz poseidon was so garbo with lucifer
onyx folio
literally 1 hit knocked them out of radius and they took 100 damage and killed me
lmao
narrow rampart
Poseidon on Lucy is garbo unless you somehow manage to get the Zeus duo
onyx folio
the theseus minotaur fight tooks years and i lost last minute
narrow rampart
then it's a bit less garbo
onyx folio
its literally ocean bounty and thats it
next moss
and make base encounters ez
narrow rampart
nah, aphro does
next moss
does she?
narrow rampart
aphro has the highest percentage iirc
narrow rampart
oh wait Poseidon is the same as aphro?
onyx folio
weak is mad good too
narrow rampart
yee
onyx folio
and she has good utility unlike mr fishing point
narrow rampart
then she gets like
next moss
weak synergises with everything under the sun
aphrodite's duos are insane
like all of them?
except the one with poseidon 😄
narrow rampart
a T2 that makes weak stronger, and another T2 that makes weak-afflicted enemies take more damage
narrow rampart
queen, we have no choice but to stan
onyx folio
youre correct and you should say it
narrow rampart
the ares/aphro duo is only good for keeping priv status up if you're using just those two gods
otherwise it's high-key underwhelming ngl
onyx folio
yeah i had a run with it recently and lost lol
i fished for it the entire game bc it sounded mad schnice
narrow rampart
uhhh I wonder how it interacts with dire misfortune
mmm actually nvm pretty that's obvious lmao
narrow rampart
yeet
onyx folio
where i had weak on spear attack with the 3 stab daedalus boon
onyx folio
i flawlessed the minotaur, went to eat pizza with the game still open, came back and my comp was asleep which instantly crashed the game
then i loaded it back up and i was back in base
narrow rampart
rip
onyx folio
im not ok
narrow rampart
you can recover your save file after a crash
onyx folio
i have 2 dollar
onyx folio
ok
narrow rampart
uhhhhh
There was a post in #h1-tech-support that was pinned, but it isn't there anymore
onyx folio
hang on im getting pictures of my cat
narrow rampart
dope
rugged oyster
poseidon on rail, why would you think thats good without the shotgun hammer variant o.o
narrow rampart
okay basically you wanna go to your game's save file location, sort the saves by date changed,
onyx folio
lmao its not even letting me post pics
narrow rampart
there's gonna be save1, save1_backup, etc
onyx folio
rip
narrow rampart
OH YEAH you can't upload pics
onyx folio
😔
narrow rampart
its okay i will just assume your cat is to be loved like all others
onyx folio
ill describe her
shes black with her belly and toes white
???
i just got told off without saying a swear word
rip
narrow rampart
so yeah find the save files, sort then by change date, and pick the one most recently changed, and change its name to the base save file name (which j think is just save1.stuff)
void fjord
lol 1st time i have seen the bot for someone else other than me
onyx folio
oh wait is dam a swear word here
main osprey
@onyx folio look in #h1-tech-fixes fit recovering your save
rugged oyster
could be, but dam is in Hades with the furies
narrow rampart
the bot censored me many times before 😔
onyx folio
the n after dam
rugged oyster
ik
onyx folio
oh tru
rugged oyster
the bot really said
livid comet
aight, got zeus on lucifer
narrow rampart
congrats
livid comet
what else should I get
narrow rampart
infinity chamber mebbe
livid comet
got it
narrow rampart
and just go ham on Zeus boons
void fjord
btw to get ur save file back check #h1-tech-fixes
narrow rampart
try to get his legendary 👀
rugged oyster
try get the jolted boon and lighting bounce boon
livid comet
I used the zeus keepsake, what should I switch to
jade rover
I'm having a lot of trouble fighting redacted with fists; For some reason with that weapon specifically I keep getting hit partway through dashes, and I feel like I'm just not understanding something about I frames or whatnot. Anyone got a frame data reference or a tip for me?
void fjord
and put all poms into jolted
onyx folio
replace everything with poseidon push build
livid comet
I've got no boons other than zeus atk
onyx folio
every other build is trash
void fjord
welllllll @onyx folio lets not start a war here abt the best builds
onyx folio
or funny blade rift build which doesnt work
narrow rampart
blade rift is op
onyx folio
blade rift looks cool and does nothing
void fjord
@jade rover just get used to the fight itll take time
onyx folio
youre wrong
narrow rampart
don't at me
onyx folio
@narrow rampart
narrow rampart
you've made an enemy for life
onyx folio
good
jade rover
I am used to the fight; I've perfected it with bow and aegis before. Fists are the only one that I struggle with.
onyx folio
its a war i intend to win
onyx folio
yeah i have stuff thats actually good that i dont need legendary boons to win with
eg. athena anything
void fjord
i learned that whenever it shows he's gonna spin, just dash the second it starts
ruthless reflex is noce with fists
onyx folio
no
narrow rampart
With just Athena dash
void fjord
since you can dodge alot
narrow rampart
NO
narrow rampart
athena? defaced, debunked, discontinued, in shambles
main osprey
With just Ares dash
And then talk to me
void fjord
sommeone did a run with only poseidon dash if i aint mistaken
narrow rampart
I DID
onyx folio
no i cant do a run in general
narrow rampart
ITS OP
onyx folio
im 20 hours in and i havent won yet
narrow rampart
I have a screenshot somewhere
main osprey
I have video evidence ^.^
void fjord
lol
narrow rampart
oh
main osprey
:3
onyx folio
i just have the taste of a veteran
narrow rampart
ok zeph we'll have a truce
void fjord
now i wanna do a dio dash only run
narrow rampart
until you git gud
livid comet
poseidon cast or flourish?
onyx folio
wow araki ported dio into this game?
livid comet
🤔
onyx folio
cast
narrow rampart
uhhhh cast
livid comet
on luci
narrow rampart
his flourish would just ruin things for you
onyx folio
his flourish is so bad
narrow rampart
bounce enemies away constantly
livid comet
I'm not using special at all
onyx folio
youre playing it wrong :^)
narrow rampart
lul
narrow rampart
yeah just put the Special down as enemies are spawning
onyx folio
special mad good
void fjord
athena flourish is good on luci since anything close to the bomb just gets deflected
onyx folio
athena flourish is good with everyone wym
livid comet
should I reroll?
narrow rampart
Lucy Athena flourish big brain
onyx folio
reroll?
livid comet
got call, cast or special from posei
narrow rampart
yah you're still baby you'll get that later
void fjord
mirror talent
livid comet
oh yeah, spoilers I guess
void fjord
lol yea
onyx folio
oh sick
livid comet
anyway, is it worth rerolling poseidon?
narrow rampart
which reroll are you talking about dagg
void fjord
FP or FA?
narrow rampart
no just pick one of them
onyx folio
call probs
narrow rampart
don't reroll, it'd be a waste
livid comet
aight
narrow rampart
go either call or cast
void fjord
imo infinte ammo trash on luci
narrow rampart
besides filling up the tier 1 boons will help you get more t2 offered
onyx folio
poseidon special is my pick for like top 5 garbo boons in the game lol
onyx folio
pog
narrow rampart
infinite ammo is trash unless if you go all in with zeus
void fjord
ye
main osprey
Or! Sea Storm Super Soaker
narrow rampart
lucy attack is trash in general
livid comet
yeah poseidon special has its place
onyx folio
i might pick it up if i literally ever go for a poseidon room on purpose
narrow rampart
dagg if you end up getting artemis, support fire would work wonders
onyx folio
whats the general consensus on crit for fast but weak attacks
the chance is high enough that itll proc a lot for her other boons
narrow rampart
not v good methinks
next moss
oh btw a noob question for u guys
narrow rampart
kinda makes Hunter's mark useless imo
next moss
do we agree that the damage formula is
onyx folio
but yeah she seems more of a big boy deeps kind of boon giver
narrow rampart
*big girl
livid comet
dio dash yee or nay?
narrow rampart
nay
next moss
if i get a poseidon buff and a chaos buff on special
next moss
they add up right?
narrow rampart
god
next moss
oo
narrow rampart
big girl deeps doesnt hit as hard
aphro: "allow me to introduce myself, dearest"
CALL
onyx folio
lmao
narrow rampart
Dio call is POGGERS
onyx folio
yeah dio call is nuts
one of the best tbh
its not artemis' so its good
(artemis' call is bad)
narrow rampart
is there anything worse than using Artemis greater call
and none of the arrows critting
next moss
using aphro call and have it land on a skull
onyx folio
useful once a fight maybe
next moss
is worse
onyx folio
totally worth
void fjord
i only use athena or ares calls
onyx folio
athena and ares are busted tbh
narrow rampart
bruh Ares call with curse of drowning is mad good
next moss
i'm picky on calls in tartarus but i pick any one if i don't have one by hydra
void fjord
those moments of invulnerability are sweet
onyx folio
ares got the "lol 10% more damage common" and doom is decent
next moss
even artemis
onyx folio
athena is just optimal forever
narrow rampart
Pop your casts and call, they do the damage while you are impervious/spinning
void fjord
what are ur guys thoughts on artemis?
narrow rampart
like her boons or just her in general
onyx folio
her other boons are very solid outside of those
void fjord
both
narrow rampart
best girl
onyx folio
artemis ez s tier
next moss
easiest one to face vs theseus and trial
onyx folio
best girl
void fjord
who is best character whole game
onyx folio
me
next moss
hypnos
void fjord
like SSS tier?
narrow rampart
cerberus
void fjord
only one answer is there
narrow rampart
an S for every head
onyx folio
its me
shadow ridge
void fjord
Bouldy
narrow rampart
ah, the strong and silent type
onyx folio
damn is allowed???
void fjord
bouldy and only bouldy
void fjord
lol
onyx folio
discord bot be like "cat is a slur ://///"
narrow rampart
attack is usually bad
depends on what weapon you're using, tbh
arty special sucks on bow, for instance
narrow rampart
but really good on attack
narrow rampart
arty special is AMAZING on gun, especially if you're doing a rocket build
next moss
do you have a duo lined up dagger
onyx folio
yeah artemis special is basically always nuts
narrow rampart
get the rocket and 5 bombs hammers
narrow rampart
also
livid comet
dude can you give it a rest
narrow rampart
you'll unlock weapon aspects later that really like arti on attack
onyx folio
alright
livid comet
chur
onyx folio
havent experimented with aspects much
narrow rampart
yeah, hands down
livid comet
I still wish there was a way to try out an aspect before buying it
onyx folio
they would be if i could beat a run consistently now that all the zone 1 for each weapon are done
narrow rampart
see I'd say "don't upgrade them unless you like the base versions'
void fjord
quiting game
onyx folio
:')
livid comet
wew
void fjord
no purchases are counted
narrow rampart
But then I remember how bad chaos aspect at base level is
livid comet
but aight, I'm gonna take spear
onyx folio
yeah the skelly cheese works
void fjord
well i bought all aspects anyways
onyx folio
i tried it out also
void fjord
lol
onyx folio
gamer alert
narrow rampart
spent all my resources on Zeus aspect smh
void fjord
nice
narrow rampart
On my older save
void fjord
i barely use shield tbh
onyx folio
zeus aspect
narrow rampart
This new save is untainted
livid comet
oh I DO have a duo lined up
void fjord
only chaos
narrow rampart
chaos aspect is fun but that's it
livid comet
I'll try out conch shell then
void fjord
4th aspect is pretty gud to
narrow rampart
4th aspect is weird
onyx folio
gun aspects look insane
livid comet
gun least favourite weapon
narrow rampart
it made me ANGERY when i found out that arty/Ares duo doesn't work on shield 4
onyx folio
gun is a point and click adventure which means i find it less fun than every other option
narrow rampart
lmao
onyx folio
its like my least favourite part of bastion brought back
narrow rampart
wait how was that not censored
onyx folio
me saying bastion has flaws?
rigid glen
gun is a point and click adventure which means i find it less fun than every other option
@onyx folio just did a run where I had the upgrade to seeker bullets, by then it was just click no more point
narrow rampart
mm do you have privileged status?
livid comet
yep
narrow rampart
razor shoals, then
livid comet
knockback is only on cast tho
onyx folio
imo hydraulic might
narrow rampart
that's fine, probs still better than hydraulic still
livid comet
yeah fair
onyx folio
really?
livid comet
yep
narrow rampart
see problem is Lucy is slow with dealing damage
livid comet
hydraulic doesn't go well against bosses
onyx folio
like 1.5x boost aint bad
narrow rampart
also that
livid comet
yeah but priv gives me 1.5 all the time
onyx folio
unless you big brain instant kill like a god
i dont know what privilege is except that ive got it irl
narrow rampart
Hydraulic gives more damage than Priv when it's up, and obviously stacks with it
but hydraulic won't last long enough to make that much of a difference imo, especially on Lucy
haha zeph can't relate
😔
which cast mirror upgrade do you have on rn?
narrow rampart
Uhhh is that the one that recharges?
livid comet
yep
narrow rampart
perfect, easy reapplication of razor shoals
see piercing is nice for quality of life
livid comet
it's overall the better talent for cast
narrow rampart
but triple beam will def deal a lot more damage IF you use it as a shotgun
livid comet
unless you can knock your casts out
narrow rampart
yep
livid comet
hmmm, I think imma try triple beam
narrow rampart
noice
I'd go triple too, personally
it's especially good if you manage to hit more than an enemy with the beams
You'd have multiple Zeus attack bouncing around
narrow rampart
;-;
narrow rampart
one shows up in Tartarus or Asphodel, and the other Elysium
onyx folio
ah
untold vortex
Unless you skip hammers in tartarus and asphodel
onyx folio
me always taking the cant see future paths option in chaos 👀
untold vortex
Then you'll have 2 appear in elysium
onyx folio
is there an emoji thats the eye emoji but its crossed out
thats what i was trying to represent
narrow rampart
also if you're missing a hammer, one can show up in Styx when you get there
untold vortex
That too
onyx folio
thats preddy poggers
narrow rampart
there's ALSO the anvil of the fates
onyx folio
i only ever get the extra damage to armor ones anyway
narrow rampart
bruv try other ones out
narrow rampart
ah
onyx folio
ones that are just "extra dps sometimes lol" are snzzzzz
onyx folio
tripleshot spear was so not helpful lol
narrow rampart
triple shot spear is WEIRD
damn zeph how's it feel to be constantly oppressed by a bot
narrow rampart
busted
onyx folio
i thought i was being slick
i swear like a sailor but only the ones that dont actually suck and are bad
emphasis
narrow rampart
understandable
onyx folio
let zagreus say f word
narrow rampart
fmurder
onyx folio
one of the 2
that sounds like something teen zagreus would say around hades
you dont control me dad
narrow rampart
oh, to be constantly accused of committing murder by tisiphone
onyx folio
^ the dream
narrow rampart
😔
untold vortex
I much prefer Tisiphone calling ||zag by name||
onyx folio
im mad gay for zag rn tbh
the only anime dude with heterochromia i dont want to throw hands with
this doesnt belong in this chat or really anywhere i just have to share it with someone
and church is closed
narrow rampart
ty for sharing that with us
where's the meme comic where you're in a store reaching for peach jam or something and Zagreus reaches for the same jar and u accidentally touch hands
cuz. me.
tfw zag will never offer me a bottle of nectar
why even LIVE
onyx folio
facts
narrow rampart
zag: offers me a bottle of nectar
me: anxiously scrounging around for a keepsake to give back to him
onyx folio
youve unlocked: pocket lint
onyx folio
its equally as useful as bone hourglass
onyx folio
bone glass
sss tier
they had to patch it out of the game
and replace it with its awful little brother
narrow rampart
narrow rampart
me, the littlest of my siblings: 👁️ 👄 👁️
onyx folio
im also the little brother and i can confirm its correct
narrow rampart
but ur right and u should say it
powerful
@livid comet sorry for the ping but how's the run going 👀
narrow rampart
ty oracle
narrow rampart
bless u
livid comet
pretty poor
onyx folio
rip
onyx folio
as soon as i enter the elysium boss room im like resigned to my fate
onyx folio
ngl hades felt mad ez compared to the duo
livid comet
oh well, it was just for the prophecy
onyx folio
i only died like 2 hits from winning bc i started the boss fight with 19 hp
livid comet
literally never have to touch the rail ever again
onyx folio
yeah king move
dire wedge
guys can you remind me if REDACTED's urns damage you? not just stun?
like iirc for 30 damage?
narrow rampart
yeah, 30 damage
I think they count as traps, so they deal more when you have that one pact active
also congrats on not having anything to do with rail anymore, dagg
onyx folio
god i wish that were me
narrow rampart
rail attack in general is incredibly boring to use imo
unless if you get spread fire
then it's incredibly fun to use
onyx folio
i literally just use rail special
narrow rampart
rail special is for big boys
onyx folio
you gotta be out of your mind if you want me to use that point n click stuff
on a touchpad?
in 2020?
dire wedge
right, thanks haha
onyx folio
no!
livid comet
welp
onyx folio
this isnt how youre supposed to play the game!
narrow rampart
autocorrect out here making me look rude smh
livid comet
the only reason I won was because of clouded judgement, dio call and hermes call charge up boon
livid comet
and the zeus boon where you get a damage buff after call
onyx folio
schnice
onyx folio
can i airdrop you my version of the game so you can do rail for me too thanks
i still got ambrosia to collect
narrow rampart
Lucy sucks because you can't get neither spread fire nor rocket Special hammers
airdrop it here i am a masochist
onyx folio
god gauge is per hit right
livid comet
narrow rampart
damn dassa lotta epics
onyx folio
bc blade rift and demeter cast didnt seem like they did anything
livid comet
yup
narrow rampart
but I remember picking up Demeter cast specifically to charge my god gauge faster
it's ok zeph im also too busy staring at zag to notice the god gauge fillin up
narrow rampart
okay i am actively depriving myself of much needed sleep i should stop that
small stirrup
okay consider: controller
You could go for a controller and mouse
small stirrup
It's very viable
narrow rampart
what ungodly combination is this
onyx folio
???
narrow rampart
h
onyx folio
who are you
narrow rampart
how do u use it
small stirrup
I thought it was super weird as well
narrow rampart
how many arms ya got
small stirrup
But its actually pretty smooth
narrow rampart
how does one
narrow rampart
cackle
onyx folio
pop
small stirrup
You can post pictures using a third party software like gyazo or imgur
narrow rampart
yeah you can link pics but not directly upload them
narrow rampart
please
onyx folio
livid comet
omg I forgot that this run was also my first fish from void
onyx folio
sorry that was my spear stabbing you in the ribs
livid comet
👌
narrow rampart
mati are cute
small stirrup
@onyx folio I suggest going to #off-topic-discussion if the conversation is falling into off-topic 
onyx folio
ah yeah sorry bout that
narrow rampart
oh whoops
onyx folio
good point
onyx folio
cat vid in gen
narrow rampart
fists
livid comet
zagspect?
narrow rampart
fists are great with Ares attack, especially if you get Athena dash and merciful end
onyx folio
attack probably?
small stirrup
Usually attack
narrow rampart
any could work but zag aspect probs best
narrow rampart
yeah Ares on attack and Athena on dash
onyx folio
artemis special, ares attack, athena dash
small stirrup
4th aspect fists work great with Ares though
livid comet
bleh
onyx folio
or athena everything
narrow rampart
mmm deflect is very good with attack, but it's redundant if you already have dash methinks
livid comet
not touching new gloves, not a huge fan
narrow rampart
BRUH ON MY NEW SAVE
Used up most of my titan blood
Still haven't gotten GY
I AM ANGERY
livid comet
rly, no atk speed boost 😦 zagspect fists why
narrow rampart
I want the new fist aspect 😭
small stirrup
livid comet
||Gilg|| is kinda... disappointing?
narrow rampart
yeah the no attack speed boost makes me sad, but apparently it was always bugged to never have it
slim scarab
frost flourish or frost strike on exagryph(also have triple bomb)?
narrow rampart
hmmmm
small stirrup
not me but essentially what I use
onyx folio
hand pics
livid comet
strike
narrow rampart
Imma try that next tim e I play
small stirrup
Sorry @magic dagger I needed a reference
onyx folio
frost doesnt seem that amazing imo
narrow rampart
yeah strike
dire wedge
hold dash and attack together for wolverine cosplay
narrow rampart
frost and then get that one boon that explodes with 10 stacks
onyx folio
i built around the cast bc its a gimmick but even then it kind of didnt do much since i couldnt increase cast damage much
no chaos boons/ares 10% damage/frost on cast one
😔
did get higher accuracy on cast + damage which didnt do that much on its own
think itd be stupider if i had the other mirror upgrade for cast
narrow rampart
yeah Demeter cast requires some real setting up to work
onyx folio
since i use the auto retrieve 1 cast one
but since it doesnt latch onto people for demeter the other one should be better
livid comet
omg this link lmao
onyx folio
we are all swear
livid comet
okay
livid comet
next moss
01/01/1970 is a defaut value in IT
narrow rampart
Ah
onyx folio
i wish it were 1 year earlier
narrow rampart
me, a software engineering student, just finding that out:
livid comet
onyx folio
hm yes d&d japanese and work/learning
next moss
but sometimes its 1970
livid comet
what do?
onyx folio
part of a balanced breakfast
narrow rampart
what's your build thus far dagg
onyx folio
addled strike is super good
boreal summit
itss called the unix epoch but yah
onyx folio
i think attack does work on dash strike yea
narrow rampart
Either the first or the second
boreal summit
great little hurdle to run into
narrow rampart
both would work well methinks
tiny rune
I think I've found my new fave build. Adamant rail with Rocket Bomb+Cluster Bomb and artemis Deadly Flourish. Stand in melee range and one-shot everything
livid comet
aight
narrow rampart
just depends on which curse you can tolerate more
onyx folio
chaos boons just give more numbers to the dash strike one
narrow rampart
Strike probably is better, actually
onyx folio
yeah i had that like 2 runs ago vhy
onyx folio
just with poseidon special
narrow rampart
rip
onyx folio
instead of literally anything else
tiny rune
Yeah it's hard to find sometimes. Just got under 18 min for the first time with that
narrow rampart
noice
boreal summit
never use rail personally
narrow rampart
good choice
narrow rampart
exquisite
onyx folio
im impressed
narrow rampart
the flavour
boreal summit
finally found a build where bow is useable today
onyx folio
i can feel each individual tastebud dialate
narrow rampart
what's da build
onyx folio
i wish bow started not like that
crude vessel
the boon that turns your cast into the stun cloud + lightning damage is insane, i every time i got to the end i had this combo
onyx folio
attack is slow and unflexible and special is lol
i feel like itd be hype rail if it werent for the early game
boreal summit
flurry shot + hermes attk speed boost + any good attack boon
narrow rampart
the boon that turns your cast into the stun cloud + lightning damage is insane, i every time i got to the end i had this combo
you can get the ice wine boon with those too for maximum o
Pog
unique crystal
Today I found out that Minotaur Rush is lowkey busted
boreal summit
went Artemis earlier and got some good combo boons
small stirrup
Artemis is best girl
boreal summit
is true
onyx folio
ur right and you should say it
narrow rampart
man
Demeter aspect fists, arty special, aphro dash, Dio attack, with their three Duo boons
name a better combo ill wait
boreal summit
ok hot take incoming
onyx folio
me and mcdonald fry
boreal summit
aspect of beowulf is garbo
onyx folio
yeah like the food they sell in burger king
boreal summit
just like BK fries
narrow rampart
oof
small stirrup
Demeter aspect fists, arty special, aphro dash, Dio attack, with their three Duo boons
name a better combo ill wait
@void fjord
narrow rampart
man Beowulf was so disappointing 😭
small stirrup
man Beowulf was so disappointing 😭
Did we use the same weapon?
onyx folio
dont spoil beowulf please i havent read it yet
narrow rampart
HOPE YOU DIDNT READ THAT
narrow rampart
yeah i shall
onyx folio
its only been a thousand years at least
narrow rampart
||shield was the only weapon to not have a cast aspect, so when it got Beowulf I was excited||
||then it tried beo and I honest to god almost cried||
reef galleon
why beo garbo
void fjord
the best combo for demeter aspect (for me at the very least) aphro special, zeus or demeter attack, demeter dash, zeus or ares or dio cast, athena call. no duos needed, no legendaries needed though demeter legendary would be very pog
boreal summit
I did ||charged flight + charged shot, the former being decent but charged shot was an awful choice||
boreal summit
idk what they changed
narrow rampart
I actually liked ||charged shot on beo, almost made it like I was playing Hera||
small stirrup
they decresed the damage buff from 500% to 200%
narrow rampart
yeah
reef galleon
used beo recently and it was better than new chaos
narrow rampart
that made me sad because I didn't try it before the nerf
boreal summit
shot was bad
narrow rampart
New chaos makes me sad
small stirrup
New Chaos is alright
boreal summit
dont remember what changed w him
small stirrup
I miss old but this isn't bad at all
narrow rampart
Old was better methinks
onyx folio
im lost
narrow rampart
hi lost
onyx folio
damnit
narrow rampart
im dad
boreal summit
Im dad
narrow rampart
i just did
onyx folio
you cheated not only the game but yourself
narrow rampart
sue me
onyx folio
syblix is cancelled
narrow rampart
oh
onyx folio
youre fine but youre on thin ice
boreal summit
Twi and I are the same person
reef galleon
I don't get the logic behind new chaos. All other shield specials are specifically made for you not to aim because you aim with attack. Now you just aim both on attack and on special which just makes things tedious.
boreal summit
dad
small stirrup
Old chaos was extremely broken not that it was a problem though. I definitely prefer the old chaos more than the new one, but it isn't bad
onyx folio
boogie woogie woogie
boreal summit
ohhh chaos aspect
narrow rampart
yeah
boreal summit
I thought people were talking about the boons
narrow rampart
skdhahhdahd
boreal summit
I was like, what changed
narrow rampart
apologies
onyx folio
skdhahdahd yourself
boreal summit
akiosjduq8eujajsdoj
narrow rampart
go to ur room zeph
onyx folio
youre breaking the rules in like 3 ways rn im impressed
narrow rampart
lul
small stirrup
onyx folio
im just gonna... move to gen discussion
im awful at remembering to check which chat im in
reef galleon
Old chaos was extremely broken not that it was a problem though. I definitely prefer the old chaos more than the new one, but it isn't bad
@small stirrup new chaos crams you into repetitive attack sequences because the special activates through charge. Therefore you always charge > end up behind all enemies > do 180 > throw shields. Now the routine registers in your mind way more significantly.
narrow rampart
sorry king i shall depart
small stirrup
Old chaos was also a repetitive sequence of charge and special
reef galleon
yes, but the special throw was borderline instinctual
small stirrup
Old or New?
reef galleon
old
small stirrup
Agreed
reef galleon
like you didn't have to think about it. Now you have to think about it, but it's always the same thought process.
small stirrup
I do like it
reef galleon
It's not bad, but last night I tried and couldn't finish the run bc of how boring it felt
slim scarab
delta chamber or explosive fire?
reef galleon
Many people here find delta chamber unreliable
slim scarab
oh k ty
small stirrup
Don't let us stop you from trying it though!
small stirrup
Hiya!
tardy dragon
Just 1 question
Is ur damage meant to fall of like crazy once you hit elysium
I feel like I'm doing 0 damage and every fight turns into a slog
reef galleon
It is meant to get harder
small stirrup
Elysium is a vibe check
narrow rampart
bonk
onyx folio
elysium is the hardest part of the game imo
if for nothing else then just the boss fight
boreal summit
every new zone should feel like somewhat of a fall-off
narrow rampart
ok but yeah do try out delta chamber! if at the very least just to get the fated list prophecy
tardy dragon
I feel like I'm taking the right boons and all
onyx folio
theseus just says you didnt hit me for three years when im clearly stabbing the heck out of him
and minotaur be schmooving
tardy dragon
My fingers actually ached like hell because it took a hella long time to kill thesius and Minotaur guy
onyx folio
yeah they actually take forever
tardy dragon
Had to mash buttons the entire time
small stirrup
Ah yes
onyx folio
probs my least favourite part bc you need to have actual boon combos by that point or youre screwed
small stirrup
The heroes taking time
reef galleon
maybe change tactics. Find hammers that change input
narrow rampart
Best build to fight those two imo is an Ares cast build, or a Dio cast build
small stirrup
Something I never relate to now
onyx folio
you could just get unlucky with hammers/boon drops and lose
tardy dragon
I'd imagine it'd be easier on the hands if I played with my pro controller
tardy dragon
Im on switch
onyx folio
and since its 3 whole areas and 2 boss fights in it feels like ive lost an hour each time
onyx folio
your boy just wants a w
small stirrup
For starters to get gud with heroes is to understand Asterius' moveset
onyx folio
yeah minotaur is super ez
narrow rampart
Annoying
small stirrup
He is very well telgraphed
narrow rampart
yeah asteroid is the big deal
onyx folio
take theseus out and itd be balanced lol
reef galleon
Asteroid 
narrow rampart
Asteroid,,,,
small stirrup
I mean he exposes his back whenever he finishes his throw
Like literally shows it to you
narrow rampart
asterius takes up most of the arena space with his attacks, which makes it hard to maneuver around Theseus's weaknesses
boreal summit
wtf is asteroid
narrow rampart
ASTERIUS
small stirrup
I persume
narrow rampart
It was autocorrect
onyx folio
yeah once gods aid comes in the fight is way easier
narrow rampart
Ruining my reputation again
onyx folio
its just so damn hard to wear his health down
small stirrup
The heroes can be killed under 15 seconds consistently
small stirrup
Vorime killed them under 5 seconds
onyx folio
bruh
narrow rampart
yeah
small stirrup
narrow rampart
||need companions tho which I don't have on my new save file 
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