#h1-builds-and-combat | Supergiant Games | Page 194

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 3:42 PM

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we've known this was coming for an entire year mmLol

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 3:42 PM

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I know, but they've been v. quiet about contents.

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Major is not a word you use if you're trying to manage expectations.

analog crystal Jan 11, 2019, 3:43 PM

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It'll be nice to see what quantity of content we will see in major updates

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 3:43 PM

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I mean like

analog crystal Jan 11, 2019, 3:43 PM

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Cus some people are saying that they expect a whole floor, new gods new weapons

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But thats a lotta work

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Too much work

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 3:43 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised if most of the game is actually nearly done by this point, and it's more of a balance thing

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considering what we have now is as quality as it is

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 3:44 PM

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True. I'd also really like them to release or blog about whatever end-user data they collected from early access.

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That stuff's always interesting to me.

analog crystal Jan 11, 2019, 3:44 PM

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Mmm

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Like

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Average % who've beaten hydra

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I feel like it's be quite high

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 3:45 PM

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That, % use of relics, % wins with gods, that kind of thing.

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I like insight into balance decision-making.

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 3:45 PM

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who got the most ambrosia

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that's not important for gameplay reasons but it's required

analog crystal Jan 11, 2019, 3:45 PM

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% win with gods will be so skewed to artemis lmao

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Yeah, I know. 😃 I just want to see it beyond anecdotal discussion.

analog crystal Jan 11, 2019, 3:46 PM

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What keepsake do you use for Asphodel? I like the bone earring

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 3:46 PM

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oh, does anyone know how damage resistance boons stack with each other?

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 3:46 PM

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Pretty sure multiplicative.

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Additive breaks too easy.

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 3:47 PM

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i wonder if it's straight multiplicative

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 3:47 PM

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Asphodel keepsake is usually bone earring, though if I'm shopping for boons still I'll take a god.

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If I have a pile of gold I might take Charon.

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And hope for shop-pot.

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Buff gobbling in Asphodel can sometimes make it a cake-walk.

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 3:48 PM

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If you need me, I'll be downstairs, with the shop-pot, you can call and I probably won't hear you, cause it's loud with the shop-pot ooooooooo

dapper heart Jan 11, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Bone hourglass for me.

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 3:50 PM

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If I'm having a really good bow run Orpheus jar can be good extra damage.

analog crystal Jan 11, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Is hourglass that good then? I've never given it a chance apart from in the post meg passage way with the shop there but when I leave I change to earring

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 3:51 PM

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One more shop with buffs after passage can make hourglass much better than earring.

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Multiple food buffs stack.

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Like double-jerky.

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Or double-soda.

analog crystal Jan 11, 2019, 3:52 PM

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I've never bought jerky, idk why I just always felt strong enough and wanted to save money for charons shop rather than the well

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 3:52 PM

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jerky broken thou

analog crystal Jan 11, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Probably should haha

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 3:52 PM

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even post-nerf

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Yeah, roid jerky is good stuff.

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It's basically epic Ares damage buff.

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And if you get it for 6 rooms, that's often the rest of the run.

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Braid of Atlas is insane on cast runs.

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 3:56 PM

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yeah that's kinda bork

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i once saw a boon that made cast drop time 2 seconds

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 3:57 PM

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Value on the well buffs is higher than most boons once you get to Asphodel.

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Artemis cast build can get to some bonkers damage.

analog crystal Jan 11, 2019, 3:57 PM

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I severely underestimated how short 2s on Artemis's boon

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I got it for funsies and was like holy heck this is pretty good

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 3:58 PM

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What's the normal drop time? Like 10s?

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 3:58 PM

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15

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 3:58 PM

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Ick.

grave cipher Jan 11, 2019, 4:00 PM

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Had a run with Aphrodite cast with reduced cast drop from Artemis down to like 1.5 seconds, I just stood next to the hydra and spammed those bad boys. One of the easiest win ever.

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 4:01 PM

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just like have athena cast boon

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 4:01 PM

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Rose bullets of pure love.

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 4:01 PM

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laugh

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friendship pellets?

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 4:04 PM

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I wonder what Hera's theme will be.

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 4:04 PM

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i wonder if we'll see hercules

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Heracles. 😃 We're Greek here.

analog crystal Jan 11, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Hera's theme is family, so I'm thinking maybe you can summon NPC's from the house of Hades to fight with you

hard holly Jan 11, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Im not sure we will see Hera as a boon giving goddess

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 4:05 PM

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if we were greek achilles would be called ajax

analog crystal Jan 11, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Hera is one of the main 12 olympians so hopefully

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 4:05 PM

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bbl

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Oh dang. Missed the Achilles / Ajax thing.

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Hera's could be marriage counseling.

analog crystal Jan 11, 2019, 4:06 PM

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She's not the best at that herself

hard holly Jan 11, 2019, 4:06 PM

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Uh

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Ajax and Achilles arent the same person?

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 4:06 PM

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Sure she is, she runs around and turns cheaters into trees and stuff.

hard holly Jan 11, 2019, 4:07 PM

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To be fair, Hera is married to Zeus

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I dont think anyone can manage Zeus

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Zeus's extramarital activities are dodgy for community rules. 😃

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He was kind of a weirdo.

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I did a project in Jr. High where I made models of the pantheon thrones.

analog crystal Jan 11, 2019, 4:13 PM

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What's Jr. High?

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Is that an American school system thing

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Yes. 7th & 8th grade.

analog crystal Jan 11, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Ah I see, so 11-13 ages?

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 4:15 PM

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Yeah, thereabouts.

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 4:35 PM

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o wait ajax wasn't achilles

reef iris Jan 11, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Guess Hera will apply sort of debuf

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It's more in her nature

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 4:56 PM

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hera will inflict the power of Nagging on your enemies

hollow totem Jan 11, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Wheres hestia

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So i can stan her

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 5:03 PM

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She just drops a fireplace on baddies.

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 5:04 PM

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~~where's chrom~~

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I'd like to see uh, Hermes

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 5:04 PM

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They should take inspiration from the Disney Hermes.

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Paul Schaffer is great.

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And Dionysus should belch-talk like Rick from Rick and Morty.

pastel jolt Jan 11, 2019, 5:15 PM

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god, no

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please no

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no

tulip timber Jan 11, 2019, 5:16 PM

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😄

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 5:18 PM

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yes!

analog crystal Jan 11, 2019, 5:34 PM

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If we're doing this

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Can we get Danny DeVito VA for Phil who will train Zag

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Thanks

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https://tenor.com/view/offer-nice-egg-tryin-time-danny-devito-gif-5352739

Tenor

can i offer you a nice egg

▶ Play video

somber epoch Jan 11, 2019, 5:35 PM

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SG just calls up Disney; "Hey, can we borrow Phil?"

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just get logan to do it @analog crystal

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he can voice anything

analog crystal Jan 11, 2019, 5:36 PM

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I want Danny DeVito

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I love that man

turbid needle Jan 11, 2019, 7:41 PM

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Achilles voiced by Danny DeVito

finite grail Jan 11, 2019, 9:08 PM

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no voice. just him in the game wearing a toga

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With a voice but also. It’s just him

dusky drum Jan 11, 2019, 11:08 PM

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i got a run yesterday with bow that did 300-800 damage per shot

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oof i cant upload the image

hollow totem Jan 11, 2019, 11:11 PM

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I had a world spitter run

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where I was doing 1k per chop to armored foes

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actually free run

dusky drum Jan 11, 2019, 11:12 PM

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geez

cedar musk Jan 11, 2019, 11:35 PM

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why can the blue crystal things float over lava........

proud storm Jan 11, 2019, 11:37 PM

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cranky bc you cant float over lava arent you

cedar musk Jan 11, 2019, 11:37 PM

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sdkfjsdfsd

hollow totem Jan 11, 2019, 11:43 PM

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Being forced into poseiden boons

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feelsbadman

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when you get shoved into a trash gods route

stuck breach Jan 11, 2019, 11:43 PM

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poseidon is love, poseidon is life

hollow totem Jan 11, 2019, 11:43 PM

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is always a kiljoy

glossy slate Jan 11, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Poseidon is fantastic and I will fight you on this

hollow totem Jan 11, 2019, 11:55 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399029959542308874/533433872386621440/unknown.png

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GIVE ME BOONS PLS

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GOD

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this is actually the biggest boon drought i've been on in quite some time

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got a level 2 yarn

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how tf does that even work

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Didnt even get a boon all the way till hydra

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got bodied

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PepeHands

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Level 3 yarn cant carry

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PepeHands

turbid needle Jan 12, 2019, 12:23 AM

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hahahahaha @hollow totem its like you rolled 3 D120's and rolled 3x 1!

cedar musk Jan 12, 2019, 12:53 AM

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ive beaten meg p easily like 3 times in a row so i think i can like. reliably get to asphodel now

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 12:58 AM

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Nice!!!

cedar musk Jan 12, 2019, 1:02 AM

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died on the boat :/

dusky drum Jan 12, 2019, 1:03 AM

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island is really hard

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just having to deal with a bunch of armored bombers and skeletons with armored blue crystals

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i avoid it as much as possible

cedar musk Jan 12, 2019, 1:05 AM

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can you avoid it?

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bc yeah i got two crystals and a bunch of bombers and i felt like i literally. couldnt do anything but die which wasnt great but maybe im just bad idk

glossy slate Jan 12, 2019, 1:11 AM

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Yes you can avoid it

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Pay attention to the gate, the reward will always be a lone, boosted god boon

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Be careful of shops unless you’re sure you’ve passed it, or you’ll end up forced in

versed tree Jan 12, 2019, 1:13 AM

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Replace skelly’s voice with Danny devito

unique heath Jan 12, 2019, 1:13 AM

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is taking the spear cheating 🤔

dusky drum Jan 12, 2019, 1:14 AM

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no taking bow and getting a build that does 300-800 per hit is cheating

glossy slate Jan 12, 2019, 1:14 AM

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Depends, are you being boring and spamming special?

dusky drum Jan 12, 2019, 1:14 AM

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and i just beat meg without getting hit

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i personaly think spear is good

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it has low damage but the range is whats good

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just an artemis dash or curse of agony is really powerful

glossy slate Jan 12, 2019, 1:15 AM

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Ahahahaha

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“Low damage”

dusky drum Jan 12, 2019, 1:16 AM

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15 for base hit, 20 for special and 40 backstab if its doubled

glossy slate Jan 12, 2019, 1:16 AM

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Or, and bear with me for a second,

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Wipe a screen with a single 1200 damage thwap

stuck breach Jan 12, 2019, 1:17 AM

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spear is probably highest damage weapon with right build

dusky drum Jan 12, 2019, 1:17 AM

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but you have to be really lucky with a run to do that

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im doing about 200 with bow leaving tarturus

glossy slate Jan 12, 2019, 1:17 AM

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no, you can get it consistently with 2 boons

dusky drum Jan 12, 2019, 1:17 AM

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wait, what

glossy slate Jan 12, 2019, 1:18 AM

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Bring Athena or Poseidon keepsake when you start, get the attack upgrade

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Dump every Pom you find into it

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If you don’t have Artemis by the time you beat Meg, switch to hers and take Hunter’s Dash

dusky drum Jan 12, 2019, 1:19 AM

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i see whats happening

glossy slate Jan 12, 2019, 1:19 AM

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Charge the spear out of range and dash to release

dusky drum Jan 12, 2019, 1:19 AM

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does the crit mess with the %attack buff

glossy slate Jan 12, 2019, 1:20 AM

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Doubles whatever your attack bonus is

dusky drum Jan 12, 2019, 1:20 AM

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yep, thats powerful

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ill need to try it

glossy slate Jan 12, 2019, 1:20 AM

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Crit and backstab factors after attack boons

dusky drum Jan 12, 2019, 1:20 AM

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ok

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wouldnt any attack buff thats a %work

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cuz aphrodite is nice

hollow totem Jan 12, 2019, 1:35 AM

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Bow or sword is def the highest damage at max potential

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Spear is not low damage at all

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and sheild is prolly the most underwhelming but its very safe

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so i guess that how it be

glossy slate Jan 12, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Any attack buff will work but Athena is the highest modifier

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With Poseidon a close second

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Aphrodite is at the bottom

dusty lotus Jan 12, 2019, 2:49 AM

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So, there is an issue with Athena's dash where attack input during the small charge time on the dash isn't registered

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I was doing an Aegis run and it kinda got me killed

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where I dashed, immediately attack and start charging dash (I had the daedalus hammer upgrade that makes it charge really fast)

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I hold down the attack button but it didn't input because I pressed during the dash charge time, so I just stand there and eat everything

dapper heart Jan 12, 2019, 5:34 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/340618610227544065/533518873723666452/unknown.png Well, I finally beat hydra while running Aegis. Sort of.

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 5:34 AM

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Dash-cast-bull rush?

dapper heart Jan 12, 2019, 5:34 AM

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Dash and cast.

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My cast crits were at 753.

scarlet dagger Jan 12, 2019, 5:35 AM

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Jesus

dapper heart Jan 12, 2019, 5:35 AM

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It was like.
"Wait, what."

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I might be also posting these to make sure I remember what I comboed to survive.

woeful stirrup Jan 12, 2019, 5:41 AM

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Two braids of Atlas? Why can't I be this lucky shadedisgruntled

hollow totem Jan 12, 2019, 5:50 AM

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I beat hydra with sheild using a suicide run

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skelly earing with 187 damage, with 20% damage reduction + weakness

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just sat in the middle of the run clicking left click and letting revenge do all the damage for me

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 6:18 AM

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beat the hydra for the first time since the hydra battle was changed! only my third win ever 😛

📎 Hades_2019-01-12_12-16-17_AM.png

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 6:18 AM

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Congrats!

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 6:18 AM

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didn't even need my death defiances!

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 6:19 AM

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You laugh in the face of defying death?

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 6:19 AM

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i do!

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rapid shot bow is pretty good with crits if you buff the crit damage enough

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 6:20 AM

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Crit + bow = success in general 🙃 Rapid shot is fun, though

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 6:20 AM

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~~unless you're using steady shot~~

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 6:21 AM

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in general

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Steady Shot notlikeblob

hollow totem Jan 12, 2019, 6:43 AM

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PepeHands

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I miss the old hydra battle

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when it was stupid difficult

dusty lotus Jan 12, 2019, 6:44 AM

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What was different?

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 6:44 AM

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I thought it was easier, 'cause you could skip summon phases with enough damage output

hollow totem Jan 12, 2019, 6:50 AM

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The damage was harder

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and the hydra attacked faster

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and you couldnt skip phases either

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 6:51 AM

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Those were also the days of OP aphrodite boons... Ah, the good ol' days Kappa

hollow totem Jan 12, 2019, 6:51 AM

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it didnt have damage thresholds either

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which made it slightly easier if you had a dumb amount of damage

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but that was rare

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 12:53 PM

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wigh doing god's work compiling dev notes on feedback

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:00 PM

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Pet

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The

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Doggo

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:03 PM

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doggo emote when

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 1:03 PM

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🐕

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:04 PM

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Hades moustache emote when

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 1:04 PM

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whenever we get an obol, i guess

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:05 PM

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I wonder what Charon spends all the obol we give him on

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 1:05 PM

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more obol

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:06 PM

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oh you mean like obol

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:06 PM

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invest in the obol stock market

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 1:07 PM

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live it up sparrow, your days are numbered

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:07 PM

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today I learned

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obol coins were originally

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like

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sticks

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Obolos2.jpg

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greeks were wild

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 1:09 PM

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maybe charon just really liked sticks

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maybe he was building a fence.

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maybe they were for cerberus

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:09 PM

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maybe he wants to purge all circly obols

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 1:09 PM

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cerberus goes through a lot of sticks.

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:09 PM

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and bring back the sticks

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:16 PM

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Expensive fence, imagine a fence made of £ notes

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:16 PM

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listen ven i have a week of nitro left and i charmed intend charmed to charmed use charmed it

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:18 PM

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I'm just thinking, that list that wight made considering it was last thursday surely it's subject to change a lot especially after sgg looking at all of the feedback section

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 1:19 PM

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Nah, Wight updated it until sgg had finished going through all the feedback

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:20 PM

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Oooh, fair enough

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Lookin like it's going to be a good big ol quality of life update which is nice

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:22 PM

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I honestly expected way less

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very pleasantly surprised

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:23 PM

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That's just from feedback channel too 👀

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:23 PM

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granted, they might be presented in an exagerated way by wigh potentially

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yeah

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:23 PM

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Might be even more pleasantly surprised

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:23 PM

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there are potential new stuff on top

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:23 PM

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bear in mind that it might not be exactly what was in the feedback channel

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:23 PM

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oh definitely

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:24 PM

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We will often implement solutions different from the ones proposed.

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:24 PM

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blood gates make you take 50 damage and you get 1 obol

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They only said rework

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:24 PM

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the fact that feedback is being adressed is good enough for me

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:25 PM

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Honestly I thought the feedback channel was kinda useless at first and just a place for people to vomit their ideas

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But the fact someone went through it all and considered each thing

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:25 PM

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that's the thing though. feedback channel is not for ideas

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just for how players feel

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:26 PM

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About certain aspects and mechanics yeah

stray radish Jan 12, 2019, 1:26 PM

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that should be called feelback

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:26 PM

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it's even pinned in the channel

stray radish Jan 12, 2019, 1:26 PM

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english disappoints me yet again xD

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:26 PM

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#5

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:27 PM

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Yeah

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Its kinda there for people to just go

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"I had this run, blood gates provide nothing of use just my opinion" or w/e

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And people go ykno wat they make a good point

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:28 PM

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yeah, that's useful though

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for the devs

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:28 PM

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Oye 100%

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:28 PM

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feedback is feedback

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:28 PM

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The hades community are basically 1000s of playtesters

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1 good thing about early access

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:28 PM

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i mean, kaf, that's. that's what early access is.

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:30 PM

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I love the active development of early access and "games as a service" games

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:30 PM

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have you played any early access games other than hades?

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I havent, its quite cool haha

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:30 PM

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I have, quite a few, but I've never been invested enough to join the discussion

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what tought me this mentality is warframe, well establised, yet developed as if it's in perpetual early access

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I love when devs communicate

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:32 PM

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It really does make a difference, I used to play gacha games on my phone

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:32 PM

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oof

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:32 PM

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And some of the teams in those games do not listen to the community until it gets bad

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:33 PM

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I would imagine

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:34 PM

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It's a big difference between a company tryna make a big buck and a developer trying to make a quality game

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But I guess that's obvious lol

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:34 PM

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definitely. not all consumers appreciate it though

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but anyway, probably not a conversation for #h1-builds-and-combat

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:35 PM

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gently nudges y'all towards #off-topic-discussion

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yeah

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:35 PM

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one step ahead of you

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:36 PM

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@analog crystal if you didn't see the other day i found the hydra had 8000 hp

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:36 PM

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Honestly surprised at how thats only 3000 more than meg

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I guess the invul while your killing the heads makes it feel like longer

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Thanks for that!!

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:37 PM

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yeah, the heads being 1200 each and being compulsory to kill

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do make for higher tottal hp you gotta get through

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:37 PM

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yeah i was expecting at least a double in hp, but i guess it wouldn't matter since the hard part isn't dealing with the main head but the smaller heads

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:37 PM

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Ooft Lizzy you're gonna cry when they change the health amount in the new update 😂

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:38 PM

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first heads phase is 2 heads, then it's 4, then it's 6, right?

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:38 PM

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Yup

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:38 PM

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so that's 2400, then 4800, then 7200 hp to get through

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:38 PM

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True but with AoE and piercing its not really like that

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:39 PM

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Meh I kinda like small projects like this, I'm not sure if you know the Character Jhin in League of Legends but i once used god knows how long calculating his max possible AD (He has odd interactions with stats and can gain way more than ordinary amounts of damage)

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:39 PM

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yeah but that's still 14400 hp to get through that isn't part of the hydra's hp bar

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assuming the 1200 hp figure is accurate

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:39 PM

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yeah 22.400 hp total

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 1:39 PM

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When using the Bow and Hunter's Dash (attacking immediately after a dash guarantees a critical hit), you can fully charge up a shot and then dash without firing to automatically fire after the dash ends, causing the critical hit to proc with a fully charged shot instead of not having the time for a full shot

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:39 PM

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wait what did i miscalc

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:39 PM

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what's jhin's max ad and how do you get there

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:40 PM

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Hunters dash also works with spear spin

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@autumn tapir

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:40 PM

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you should answer in off topic

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 1:40 PM

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oh I didn't know it worked at all for spear spin

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:40 PM

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but hunter's dash + bow works anyways

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a power shot doesn't take long enough to charge that you drop out of crit time

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:41 PM

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Yeah, unless you have the slower charging rate hammer boon ooft

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:41 PM

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idk why you'd bother to fully-charge a shot when power shots are better

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:41 PM

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It's really annoying when you miss the timing by a lil bit and you do 29 or 30 damage

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:42 PM

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pew pew

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:42 PM

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Especially as the skull heads survive with 29 damage lmao

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:42 PM

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is it not the most satisfying feeling when you realise you've racked up enough damage to oneshot things

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:43 PM

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It's super nice when you have it on spear attack and you just clean the room in one spin dash

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:43 PM

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spear is just ridiculous

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:43 PM

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i always manage to screw up the timing on spinning, heh

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like i end up doing it jsut before the enemies are done spawning in, so they take no damage and then i get my face mauled off

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:44 PM

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I always stubbornly keep trying to set up the spin while there's 5 skulls attacking that i could easily kill so i lose like 15 hp

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:44 PM

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you gotta settle for the smol spin at times

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:44 PM

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it probably doesn't help that whenever i do a spear run the hammers i get are inevitably either the godawful "attack at greater range" one or for special

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:44 PM

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.... i like that one

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its really fun to stand so far away and just spam your attack

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:45 PM

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special upgrades are kinda horrible. longer reach is kinda fun

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:45 PM

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i mean, it's good, i guess, but i personally fidn it hard to adjust to the new sweetspot for attacking

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:45 PM

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The only special upgrade i like is the guaranteed crit one

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:45 PM

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so i end up never taking advantage of it

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:45 PM

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The rest are kinda bogus

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The exploding one is a really cool idea though

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Especially with ares boon

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AoE curse

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:45 PM

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spear special just feels clunky anyways

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:46 PM

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I feel trick shot and aoe have innate anti synergy

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:46 PM

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It can be super strong just cus it hits twice and if you're not doing mirrorless +100% backstab

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:46 PM

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yeah, I dun like spear special

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:46 PM

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I'm just always hoping for nothing but artemis and pommes, a strong homing cast with fast drop seems stronger than most else

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:46 PM

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It does just feel kinda clunky at the end of the day though

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 1:47 PM

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spear is the only weapon I've beaten hydra with
I absolutely hate the bow though

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:47 PM

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I've never run a solo-cast build, is it just spec into artemis and hope you get the cast boons?

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:47 PM

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spear special + poseidon knockback = the exact opposite of funtimes

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:47 PM

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yeah true

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:47 PM

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see, perp, i've only ever beaten hydra with bow

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:47 PM

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full artemis cast is the dream

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:47 PM

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i need to play with artemis cast more

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:47 PM

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but you can make it work with other stuff

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:47 PM

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hell i need to play with cast more full-stop

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 1:47 PM

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artemis cast was hilarious when Multi Shot was in its full glory

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:48 PM

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artemis cast is best for bosskilling. +x ammo and quick reload are applicable to all casts

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Do you guys like artemis's legendary? Cus I really do but from what ive seen most people dont

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:48 PM

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You can make it work with a lot of combos, but i feel that artemis just has an insane advantage mainly just because she can get her casts to drop faster

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 1:48 PM

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what does it do

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:48 PM

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i've only gotten it once

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but it was fun while i had it

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:48 PM

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is it the multishot one?

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Idk if i can say in gameplay or if its a spoiler

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 1:48 PM

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y'all are making me wanna play more hades

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Can I mods?

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Your Attack and Cast spawn an extra True Shot projectile.

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 1:48 PM

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gameplay is open season

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Yeah

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 1:48 PM

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wowwwww

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 1:48 PM

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spoiler away

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:48 PM

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I like it

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:49 PM

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So each hit you do spawns a lil cast

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 1:49 PM

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wait hold on, does that count for every spear hit

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:49 PM

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YES

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:49 PM

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its for 15 dmg

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:49 PM

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So you keep spamming attack

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And it spawns a lil homing missile

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 1:49 PM

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W h a t i n o b l i v i o n

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:49 PM

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Which does chip damage but it racks up let me tell you

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Its also nice when you're focusing on 1 hydra head and it keeps the others at bay

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It kinda sucks when it targets the invul hydra tho

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:50 PM

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to get support fire, you need either hide breaker or clean kill
to get hidebreaker or clean kill, you need either attack, special, dash, or pressure points (any damage can be critical)

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:50 PM

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I think they might be addressing imprevious targeting next patch

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might

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Yeah, its a tier 3 boon

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O

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WAIT

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Support fire is the cast boon

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Right?

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:51 PM

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support fire is the legendary

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:51 PM

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https://hades.gamepedia.com/Artemis

Hades Wiki

Artemis

Artemis is the Olympian Goddess of the hunt and the wilderness. She will sometimes offer Boons to Zagreus that cause his abilities to deal Critical damage.

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Is there any way to post links without getting that huge window along with it...

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:51 PM

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how do yall feel about legenderies having prerequisites. I mean, they DO need them atm but how do you feel about it as a concept?

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 1:52 PM

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put a < and > around them, lizzy

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:52 PM

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there's a little bit of theme naming among the boons btw, if you hadn't noticed - attack is always <x> strike, special is always <x> flourish, dash is always <y> dash, cast is always <z> shot

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 1:52 PM

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i think that disables the preview.

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:52 PM

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yep it does

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:52 PM

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I think that to get a legendary you should have a prerequisite because the legendaries themselves can act upon the boon

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Like Poseidons

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Is useless unless you have knockback

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:52 PM

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yeah, that's how most of em work

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:52 PM

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I love the thought of legendaris BUUUUUT I hate the way they're implemented now. One you have the prerequisites you have a whopping 35% chance to get them, I would much rather have them be something you can get at all times but be insanly low drop rate, and then add more than 1 legendary

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:53 PM

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yeah, that's what I'm saying but what if legendaries were standalone and equally fun/powerful

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:53 PM

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artemis's is unusual because it feels like the prerequisite should be burst shot, but it isn't

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:53 PM

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I've never got burst shot

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But it looks a lot of fun

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:54 PM

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I once had true shot for 100 dmg and never got the chance to upgrades it but then had burst shot level 6 or so.... The smalle projectiles dealt no dmg but i felt like a machine gun

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pewpew

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:54 PM

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So is each upgrade +1 projectile?

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:54 PM

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yeah

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Holy heck

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:55 PM

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and it doesnt matter if its rare or epic when you get it, it will always be +1 projectile at first

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but it deals 25% of you main shot

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:55 PM

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I think current state of legendaries is a bit stifled due to how short the game is

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:55 PM

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True, I think that you don't get to experience them enough

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But once they add a new floor it'll be cool

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:55 PM

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oh btw i just uploaded the icons that were missing on the wiki

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all gods have the icons for their boons now

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:55 PM

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yeah they are fine powerwise for now, but imagine when we have 10+ floors and the enemies have 1.000.000 health... pew pew support fire for 15 dmg 😄

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Yeah but by that time you'd upgrade it to level 50 with poms lmaoo

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:56 PM

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If you can upgrade them! 😄

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 1:56 PM

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I have over 50 runs and haven't seen a legendary yet

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:56 PM

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also tier 2/3 poseidon boons feel flat out bad, because when you get them, you're probably in ashphodel and knocing into walls becomes less of a thing there

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:56 PM

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U never enjoyed setting up the lava knock?

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:57 PM

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not when knocking things back tends to send them into ash piles

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:57 PM

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I like watching them burn

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O true

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:57 PM

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lava knock is good, but tier 2 poseidon boons give you dmg on wallslams and stun on wallslams

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:57 PM

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O you right

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:57 PM

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can't get those if you throw them in the lava

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:57 PM

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I just wish that i could get the +% reward from the very first room 😦

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:57 PM

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@autumn tapir - there's a prerequisite system for legendaries, probably why you haven't seen any

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:57 PM

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And useless against bosses

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:57 PM

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I think thats a good thing

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:57 PM

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yeah @ kaf

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:58 PM

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I dont want boons from 1 god to be powerful on both regular enemies AND bosses

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That would make the game too trivial

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:58 PM

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True, poseidon is super good against regular

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 1:58 PM

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okay but poseidon is built around a mechanic that is useless on bosses

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lmao the boon select screen i made in photoshop is SO laggy

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:58 PM

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yeah, but atm there seems to be more of a focus on bossing

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:59 PM

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But like aphro is good against everything, if she had the same damage% as poseidon I feel like you'd never pick poseidon again

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:59 PM

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I feel like if there were some more rooms between the bossess, roomclearing boons would be a bit more welcome

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 1:59 PM

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I mean pick some push abilities but favor his cast and you're set on bosses. His cast can deal with hydras easily

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:59 PM

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Poseidons cast is really nice

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 1:59 PM

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but I guess people have enough trouble with regular rooms already, like boat

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 1:59 PM

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Its satisfying too

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Especially if you, when theres 6 heads, throw your cast into the wall next to two heads, then the cast shard drops instantly and you can kill them so fast

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Poseidon's boon is good during Meg, but during Hydra it's useless

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Its good against the spawned heads I feel

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 2:00 PM

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mostly because the hydra derives its difficulty from throwing 1000 environmental hazards at you rather than 1000 enemies, but still

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Big ol AoE when they clump

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 2:00 PM

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and bites

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:01 PM

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I wish there wasn't any RNG with the heads spawning, like final phase you get 2 of each

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I got 6 stompers the other day

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 2:01 PM

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hydra just really needs a rework imo

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 2:01 PM

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I've been getting a lot of 6 stompy boys

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Hydra goes from too hard to too easy once you figure it out

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Which is alright for a 2nd floor boss I feel

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idk though

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:02 PM

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Nah it needs to be harder, the main head needs to be more active during the impervious part

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 2:02 PM

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no thanks

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it's already so visually cluttered that I feel like playing Beat Hazard is less intensive on the eyes

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 2:03 PM

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do you guys like bosses being imprevious at times?

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:03 PM

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I think if you do that they should make the floor larger

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No

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It feels a bit cheap when I rush in to attack while meg is casting circles on the floor and i get "impervious"

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Invulnerability phases in boss fights anger me

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 2:04 PM

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I think that if killing the heads was optional

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Warframe is especially guilty of invuln bosses as artificial challenge

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:04 PM

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I think she should only be invul while shes spawning or doing that spinny thing

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 2:04 PM

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but in a way that made you decide wether you want/need to kill the heads or not

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Idk, I think then that kinda ruins the appeal of the hydra

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You just wait for the pink barrage

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Rush behind and whale on them while they cant move cus they're firing

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 2:05 PM

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I really want a way to disable the aim assist
It's annoying trying to dash around with the bow and it locking onto an impervious blue crystal boi

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:05 PM

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It'd make it trivial I think

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You can

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I use controller and I disabled it

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:05 PM

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There should be more terrain to hide behind BUT all of it should be destructible

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change the "should" for a "could"

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 2:05 PM

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I get what you're saying, I think it would go with several tweaks to the fight to make it non/trivial

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:05 PM

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the first one

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 2:06 PM

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ohhh it's in controls

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why didn't I think of that

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:06 PM

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Are you controller or mkb?

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 2:06 PM

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mkb

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:06 PM

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Ooo yeah, I reckon with mkb you definitely want no auto

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Part of the appeal is the better aim

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:07 PM

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im mkb and i dont really feel it

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 2:07 PM

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the only reason I keep aim assist with mkb is to deal with hydra heads and stones

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 2:07 PM

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I really feel it when dashing a lot

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 2:07 PM

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where the hitbox is more in the shadow and less in the body

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:07 PM

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I use controller and no auto and it's more enjoyable I think

autumn tapir Jan 12, 2019, 2:07 PM

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because it doesn't aimbot enough to aim at the enemy

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:07 PM

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Its more satisfying with bow to flick to an enemy and shoot them

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:15 PM

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Nothing makes me more sad than to have maxed rare and epic chance and then get a regular 😦

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 2:16 PM

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honestly I dun like how rare and epic boons work

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It'd be cooler if rare/epic boons were more interesting choices instead of +some dmg on regular boons

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:17 PM

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I think it'd be cool if the normal boons were attack dash cast and special and rares and epics are the current tier 2s

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So you're basically guaranteed a rare or epic once youve picked up an attack dash cast and special boon

glad python Jan 12, 2019, 2:17 PM

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they could add more gods and therfore you have more choices overall

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:18 PM

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And a way to sacrifice a boon, so that specific boon e.g. attack is open again on another god

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 2:18 PM

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atm you just feel like filling

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slots at the beginning of a run

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slots being attack cast special dash

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:19 PM

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I hold out on attack boons until I get one I like so by the hydra sometimes I don't have an attack boon lol

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Same with dash

glad python Jan 12, 2019, 2:19 PM

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i just finished the game with only thunder dash

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i think they should nerf that ability a bit^^

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:20 PM

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Thunder dash is good, but only when you have 3 dashes

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Artemis will get nerfed first I reckon

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Its +100% guaranteed damage and you only need 1 dash to proc it

glad python Jan 12, 2019, 2:21 PM

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that might be true but the thunder dash hits multiple enemys and mine did ober 80 dmg per thunder

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i cleared the whole run only using thunder dash nothing else

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:22 PM

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I still feel artemis dash is better because it stacks damage onto your attack which can also have hammer boons and another gods boon and only needs 1 dash to be good

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But to each their own in games like hades

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Its all preference

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Meg still needs unbreakable bullets, i just killed her where half the fight was her shooting bullets while i just wailed on he because i destroyed every single bullet with each hit and just chunked her down

glad python Jan 12, 2019, 2:25 PM

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the thing is i just force the zeus boon at the beginning take thunder dash and i basically won i only picked upgrades for the dash and more health and to win a round like that was not that difficult tbh so i think they should take a look at that 😛

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:26 PM

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But you put a lot of effort into that

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You upgraded the dash a lot to make it good

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Artemis is insane with level 1

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I think you should deserve a win if you upgrade something enough, and then dash well enough to not die from taking damage

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Hmm i just picked the conch shell for poseidon and my first boon i find is a duo boon of artemis and ares... I feel bamboozled!

glad python Jan 12, 2019, 2:29 PM

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my advantage with this "build" is that i don´t need to stand still to use my weapon i can just dash like a maniac whereas you still need to kill things with your weapon

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@drifting hemlock yeah it only counts for solo boons

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Im always going true shot builds and while i do need to stay still to use my cast Im never near enemies and they're usually one or two shot

glad python Jan 12, 2019, 2:30 PM

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is it true that there is going to be 5 areas when the game is done?

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hydra only being the second out of 5 areas

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bosses*

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Where did you get 5 from?

glad python Jan 12, 2019, 2:31 PM

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i only heard that don´t know if it´s true

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Ooh fair

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There's 4 areas of the underworld so I reckon 4 minimum

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But it might be too early to say how many!

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Which is cool I think

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:33 PM

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since it's greek mythology there could be a lot of areas opening up

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Mount olympus as a level

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And then olympus itself

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Hype

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Fighting megs sisters

glad python Jan 12, 2019, 2:33 PM

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maybe the olympus is on possible ending where you fight all gods

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or hades is the final one

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:34 PM

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O true, they said something about the furies being in a war

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Maybe zag joins in the war

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Who was the war between?

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:34 PM

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Might be the war between the gods and the titans but then it wouldnt make sense that we're talking to half the main gods

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:34 PM

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And they talk in past tense

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They say like

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The bow was used by hera in the war against the titans

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And then they sealed them

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Tisiphone (avenger of murder), Megaera (the jealous) and Alecto (constant anger)... These are the sisters... Imagine that we've only fought the jealous one.....

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:37 PM

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The rest are just angry all the hecking time

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Jeez

glad python Jan 12, 2019, 2:38 PM

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maybe they are alternative bosses in the first area

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:38 PM

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That'd be cool to spice it up a bit

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Maybe cerb could be an alt boss for floor 2

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 2:38 PM

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noooooo don't make me fight the doggo

glad python Jan 12, 2019, 2:38 PM

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nooo not the doggo

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😦

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 2:38 PM

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hat

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Nonono you misunderstand

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Its a petting sim

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You play with him till he gets tired

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And then you slip off to floor 3

glad python Jan 12, 2019, 2:39 PM

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i hope so for your sake 😛

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 2:39 PM

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hey, question

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i'm at the point now where i'm working on upping the rare/epic upgrades at the mirror

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but idk what to prioritise

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:40 PM

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I went with epic

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Epics are just so much better than rares

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 2:40 PM

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i have 8 in rare and 0 in epic

glad python Jan 12, 2019, 2:40 PM

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can you push that to 100%

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Honestly

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I would take some darkness out of some less important ones

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 2:40 PM

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no

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Like money

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I took all the darkness out of money and put it into epic

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And +100% dash damage, but depending on your playstyle you might prefer that

glad python Jan 12, 2019, 2:42 PM

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does both go to 50% ?

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Nah

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epic to 25%

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It costs the same amount though

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Of darkness total

glad python Jan 12, 2019, 2:43 PM

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what do you guys think about the sword?

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:43 PM

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I like it

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:43 PM

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I went with rare first, just so i could faster obtain a higher % of not getting regular boons

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:44 PM

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I think for variety it'd be nice if it had another attack like all the other weapons do

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:44 PM

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also the start % of rares is (a Guess) higher than epics

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but yeah all about preference

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:44 PM

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But athena epic +100% on attack dusa

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If you're wearing a god keepsake it increases the chances of an epic or rare which is nice too

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:45 PM

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I kinda want to try a high attack % with the sword and the 400% damage chops from the hammer along with dash crits and the mirror dash damage

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:45 PM

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I think

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That the dash damage isnt affected by world splitter

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It does normal sword dash damage and then your next attacks are world splitter attacks

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Why do you ruin my dreams?! Haven't we been friends for several... days?!

glad python Jan 12, 2019, 2:46 PM

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from all the 4 weapons i personally like the sword the least the other 3 can win you a run much easier imo

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 2:46 PM

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oh my god, why is this run giving me so many different gods

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i got zeus because of my keepsake, then poseidon, then artemis, now athena

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i'm not even at meg yet

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Would you rather me let you down easy @drifting hemlock or you get into the game and find out and then take damage cus you didnt one shot

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Imo @glad python my least favourite is the shield

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Neither! I want my dreams come true! Split the world i say!

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:47 PM

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@ supergiant lmaooo

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I would love if it left lil permanent cracks in the floor

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:48 PM

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The shield with ares DoT on special is so cheese

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Until you lose your shield in Aspho loool

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Send it a postcard

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Wish you were here

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:49 PM

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Well in aspho it has innate knockback so you're just pushing everything into the lava

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then the special is for witches

glad python Jan 12, 2019, 2:49 PM

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poseidon is also a nice option to deal with the trash

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:50 PM

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I really like the hammer boon +100% damage after each bounce in aspho sometimes

glad python Jan 12, 2019, 2:50 PM

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but ares is better for the boss later

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Ares dash and the boon that makes it bigger is a lot of fun

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Imagine if it was like 1% more damage per meter traveled, it would be 1000000% dmg in asphodel

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:51 PM

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1 shot hydra

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And then walk out the bottom of the map

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Have they fixed that yet?

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 2:52 PM

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what the hell even IS this build

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analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Wait

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 2:52 PM

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i've been so busy racking up like 900 different gods, the game hasn't given me a hammer yet

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:52 PM

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you have that many before meg

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 2:52 PM

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yes

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Thats crazy ahahha

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 2:52 PM

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i got three different gods three rooms in a row and i'm actually annoyed about it because i don't even know what this build is

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:53 PM

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I would be annoyed cus I really don't like sure footing lol

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Was it that or the athena dash?

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:54 PM

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but imagine the trap damage reduction! so stronk!

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:54 PM

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I swear it doesnt even do anything to lava damage

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Cus it does 1 so it just rounds up to 1 still

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:55 PM

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It racks up, its 1 1 1 then 2 2 2 then 3 3 3 and so on

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:56 PM

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https://gyazo.com/6e9638d683920bfadd2585941ec5b377
@rough condor
Turns out some are scalable

Gyazo

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:56 PM

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but i dont think lava counts as a trap

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 2:56 PM

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it was sure footing i got, yeah

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Idk, when you hover over it the trap thing says something like

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Inanimate that does damage

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So maybe lava?

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 2:57 PM

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but you would need to stand in it for a loooong time to see results 😄

rough condor Jan 12, 2019, 2:57 PM

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ouh

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crazy

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Interestingly enough poseidons isn't affected by chamber number

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And can also offer an ambrosia oh woah

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Poseidons is a joke 😦

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Really?

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 3:02 PM

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I got the epic variation the other day, 16 health, 30 gold and 3 darkness

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 3:03 PM

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If I have a weak run sometimes the health is a life saver and the money lets me get an upgrade of somesort

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Ooft

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 3:03 PM

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NOOOOOOOOOO i got dark thirst on bow so i took artemis's keepsake, got her in first room

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no dash

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 3:03 PM

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The worst

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Theres like

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1/4 chance of you not getting it

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 3:04 PM

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"Prophecies have a way of catching up to you"
Cause of death: Falling tortoise

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Jesus christ what a way to die

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Hahahaha omg

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So many questions

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 3:05 PM

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that's a reference to aeschylus actually

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 3:06 PM

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we can blame apollo for that one prophecy

empty canopy Jan 12, 2019, 3:06 PM

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And here I thought the turtle thing was a refference to terry practhet's small gods

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 3:07 PM

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it was prophesised that he would be killed by a falling object, so he stayed outdoors

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and was subsequently killed when an eagle mistook his head for a rock and dropped a tortroise on it to break open the shell

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or so the story goes, at least

empty canopy Jan 12, 2019, 3:08 PM

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...Seems like the smarter way to avoid that prophecy would be to, you know, wear a helmet or something. Things can still fall on you inside or out

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 3:08 PM

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speaking of

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is there a way to integrate prophecies into the game

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hmmm

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path of exile has a prophecy system but it's kind of outdated and bad

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Ooooh you think like you talk to the 3 fates and they tell you the boons you'll find and in which chambers for a price of darkness or w/e?

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 3:09 PM

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But if the tortoise fell from an angle say from an airplane it could hit the stomach or back to shatter internal organs, the helm wont save you

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 3:09 PM

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it could also center around apollo

empty canopy Jan 12, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Yeah but it still gives you better odds then youyr main idea being walking outside

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 3:10 PM

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Tbf to him where did the turtle come from

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As long as you stay away from ledges

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What's gonna come from above you

empty canopy Jan 12, 2019, 3:10 PM

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People working on top of a house, someone going up a ladder, coconuts, really anything above head hieght

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hell you'd probably have better odds indoors

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Y'know the enemy might be using the superior siege weapon, the trebuchet, to launch tortoises, you're not safe anywhere

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 3:11 PM

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it's a prophecy. it's gonna get to you. zeus might have dropped it from up high for all you know

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 3:11 PM

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True, they say that Athena in her infinite wisdom recommended turtle ammo

empty canopy Jan 12, 2019, 3:13 PM

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Put all your shelfs and items below the neckline, design a roof from materials that will keep out weather and other stuff but not kill you if it shatters, then never leave

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granted, if you have been prophesied to die in ancient greece you are beggered anyway

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You could literally put yourself head to toe in invincible armor and Zeus would just throw turtles at you till it happens if someone fortells you will die by something falling on you

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No man can defy fate etc

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 3:15 PM

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I hope they remove the Mine pot only rooms

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they're awfully trivial

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 3:17 PM

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True, I really like mine pots as enemies with other enemies in rooms

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 3:18 PM

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indeed

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and maybe buff their damage

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5 damage per mine ...

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 3:18 PM

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Idk, I think its good

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Cus it zones you out of getting good positioning

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Rather than dealing damage

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 3:18 PM

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For something so visually and audibly clear it should be a threat imo

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 3:18 PM

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They're made to be awkward rather than a hard hitter

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True haha

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Kinda like the spear special explosion hammer upgrade......

empty canopy Jan 12, 2019, 3:19 PM

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The boss of the next area should just be a massive mine pot king called Pandora's Box

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 3:19 PM

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It lays massive mines that do 100 damage

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 3:25 PM

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almost have everything maxed in the mirror!

empty canopy Jan 12, 2019, 3:27 PM

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Nice.

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I wonder what the staff have planned for when you do max it out though

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No use for keys or Darkness after a while

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 3:27 PM

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Ambrosia too

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Maybe something in the major update will add a key darkness and ambrosia sink

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 3:28 PM

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They've implied they're going to address the excess keys and darkness

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idk about the ambrosia

tender zephyr Jan 12, 2019, 3:28 PM

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What's fun is when the mine pot spiders show up when you open up a chest, and you waste seconds looking for them in the corner after you kill the rest of the enemies

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 3:28 PM

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Ambrosia isn't an immediate problem

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Cus of the locked hearts

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They still have a further use in the future until you've maxed everyone

empty canopy Jan 12, 2019, 3:29 PM

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~~just drink the ambrodia till you are really really drunk then ruin your dad's celler of expensive wine in a abrosia ridden drunken rampage. It's the only right course of action for all your ambrosia~~

tender zephyr Jan 12, 2019, 3:29 PM

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The same could be said about keys and darkness.
They could add in more upgrades or things to unlock

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 3:29 PM

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true true, but what I mean is we already know what to do with ambrosia stocked

tender zephyr Jan 12, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Yep.
~~shakes fist~~
~~LET ME GIVE MORE AMBROSIA TO ARTEMIS ALREADY!~~

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Sgg tweets, if you give artemis 100 ambrosia it unlocks her released art

empty canopy Jan 12, 2019, 3:31 PM

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~~nah man, gives all your ambrosia to Hades, get him drunk, then convince him to open the wine cellars to everyone to get a bit of cheer in the underworld~~

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 3:47 PM

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how many runs do you guys have under your belt

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 3:50 PM

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I have like 30ish

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wbu

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 3:51 PM

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64!

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 3:51 PM

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just finished the 50th run

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25 hydra kills

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 3:51 PM

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Oh

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I thought you meant hydra kills lol

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I have like 100 runs

lost rose Jan 12, 2019, 3:52 PM

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fhfj i only have 3 hydra kills

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 3:52 PM

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just under 60

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4 hydra kills, about 6 or 7 attempts

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 3:52 PM

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After like 5 kills I started getting them pretty consistently so the numbers are kinda janky if that makes sense

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Once i got the first hydra kill i haven't lost since, the only room where I've lost death defiance stacks is the boat ride... God i hate that room

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 3:57 PM

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oh i inevitably lose at least one defy in asphodel

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stupid bloodless

rough condor Jan 12, 2019, 4:08 PM

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i love it when you get to a double god room and take another god first before artemis. blinking, critical striking bloodless are pupperAttac

analog crystal Jan 12, 2019, 4:14 PM

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I really like the idea of the bone hour glass keepsake

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But I wish wells were a lil more consistant

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I don't want to spawn a blood gate or heal 37 when im full hp as my only options 😢

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 4:29 PM

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why wouldnt you want a bloodgate if you're at full hp?

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or am i missing what you meant 😄

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 4:31 PM

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two separate things

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light of ixion is the item that spawns a blood gate, life essence is the item that restores health; blood gates aren't really worth it atm and the heal is useless if you're already at full health

worn dawn Jan 12, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Once again attempting a bow run

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Wish me luck!

still pewter Jan 12, 2019, 4:53 PM

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good luck!

worn dawn Jan 12, 2019, 4:54 PM

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Epic Artemis dash as first boon

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Woo

rough condor Jan 12, 2019, 5:24 PM

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nooo i made it to the hydra hitless and got hit 1 time in the fight

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noooooo

worn dawn Jan 12, 2019, 5:31 PM

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F

cold cave Jan 12, 2019, 7:49 PM

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damnit

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i havent seen poseidon's boons in AGES and i dont have his keepsake

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i finally found one but i just gave away all my ambrosia

worn dawn Jan 12, 2019, 7:54 PM

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RIP

woeful stirrup Jan 12, 2019, 7:56 PM

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Same for Zeus, have not seen him in 12 runs now. I always have an ambrosia bottle on me just in case, but Zeus won't come out stumptCry

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 7:57 PM

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It always feels so bad when you've got a god's keepsake equipped and the first time you see them you have to choose between their room and a Daedalus Hammer room, knowing you might not see the one you don't pick again that run

hollow totem Jan 12, 2019, 8:07 PM

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I go with the hanmer always tbh

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Only would pass up for a trial of gods where ik im getting a ledgendary

worn dawn Jan 12, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Guys I did it! Finally got a bow win!

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Congrats!

cold cave Jan 12, 2019, 8:27 PM

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nice! i just died to the hydra

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lmao

worn dawn Jan 12, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Maxed out Ares special

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And just hid and pressed Q

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Also got Artemis legendary, so hiding and pressing Q was gloriously effective

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Projectiles everywhere

cold cave Jan 12, 2019, 8:28 PM

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artemis legendary?

worn dawn Jan 12, 2019, 8:28 PM

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Extra projectiles

cold cave Jan 12, 2019, 8:29 PM

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oh cool

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Trueshot currently at 320 dmg feelsgoooooodman

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 9:32 PM

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The truest shot

tender zephyr Jan 12, 2019, 9:41 PM

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You know your skill level's increased when you almost get a flawless( 2-hits) victory on the hydra with a trash build.

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What's annoying is that it's because my build was trash that I ended up playing better.

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Uhh, what?

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Mistake?

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Tougher times require more attention, godmode builds tend to leave you more relaxed and unaware

abstract glen Jan 12, 2019, 9:48 PM

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So..., I'm assuming that the cloaked individual is a place holder for Sisyphus, Orpheus, Artemis, Nyx, and maybe Charron?

glossy slate Jan 12, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Yes

abstract glen Jan 12, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Kay, would've been somewhat disappointed to not see what Artemis would've looked like in SGG style

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 9:57 PM

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266dmg on true shot and i just reached meg... cakewalk incoming

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Game just crashed in a way i had to turn off my computer to do anything... Screen froze and i couldn't get away from the game so terminate the session

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aaaaaaaaand it didn't save at all..... Was mid asphodel

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what on earth

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Odd... Try loading the backup save? Rename the .bak file in the save game folder

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 10:15 PM

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And even with arrowhead my first boon is now zeus

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 10:23 PM

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oh, the pain when you realise that either you're going to have to take a boon from a god you don't want, or, you're going to have to deal with The Hellboat

cold cave Jan 12, 2019, 10:23 PM

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how do you tell which is the boat?

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 10:23 PM

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You can see the skull icon on the room

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 10:23 PM

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it's in asphodel, i'm a few chambers in, and it's an elite room

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it's usually the hellboat

cold cave Jan 12, 2019, 10:24 PM

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oh makes sense

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 10:24 PM

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It should always be the first skull room you come across

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 10:24 PM

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oh, screw it. i'm THAT willing to avoid poseidon

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 10:24 PM

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If you come across a second one, it's just a regular Elite room and not murderboat

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 10:24 PM

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besides, i'll never get better at the hellboat if i always avoid it

cold cave Jan 12, 2019, 10:26 PM

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i had a good build with the bow last time i got to the boat

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still lost all 3 death defies

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 10:27 PM

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hellboat: survived

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no death defies lost, minimal health lost in fact

hollow totem Jan 12, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Hellboat is free

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Once you get used to it, its not that bad

cold cave Jan 12, 2019, 10:27 PM

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oh damn seriously

hollow totem Jan 12, 2019, 10:27 PM

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cold cave Jan 12, 2019, 10:28 PM

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guess i suck at this game

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Just takes practice

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That's what roguelikes are all about

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 10:29 PM

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You need to suck the game! Dont let the game suck you!

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A wise asian man, probably

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 10:32 PM

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alright, hydra time

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hollow totem Jan 12, 2019, 10:33 PM

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alright

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its gamer time

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😎

frosty pier Jan 12, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Decent cast you got there

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Early congratulations on your win xD

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 10:37 PM

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oh my god

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i came so close to dying

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literally if i hadn't killed it when i did i'd have lost the run

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 10:37 PM

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It's ok, you still die in the end Kappa

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 10:37 PM

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no death defiances left, i was out in the open, and the last cast ammo i had left was what got the last hit

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 10:38 PM

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You cast yourself at the feet of the Fates, and they have spun you a merciful thread

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 10:38 PM

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if that hadn't killed the hydra then i'd have gotten stunlocked to death by the barrage it was in the middle of doing

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frosty pier Jan 12, 2019, 10:39 PM

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Soooo you had homing cast and did honorable thing and did not stand in cover all fight?

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 10:39 PM

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in hindsight i'm sad that i have so little faith in my hydra-slaying abilities that i didn't change the hydra's death message

frosty pier Jan 12, 2019, 10:39 PM

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Absolute madman

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 10:39 PM

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@pastel jolt You should replace the existing git gud pin with that image pinned in its place

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 10:39 PM

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I have 270dmg true shot with 1,5 sec drop rate and going in now, this will take about a minute xD

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 10:39 PM

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right now zag's message says git gud and when i kill meg it says press f to pay respects

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and for cerberus......

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drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 10:47 PM

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Plesantly surprised that dash crit works with world splitter

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 10:48 PM

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You just have to wait long enough to avoid the dash-thrust, right?

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Else have multiple crits on the Hunter Dash

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 10:48 PM

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Exactly

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Have 2 crits per dash so its fine

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and the timing is janky so if you only had 1 it would be a headache

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Aaaand next room is athena, praying for 100% damage on attacks

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Awh 81%

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 10:50 PM

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Nothing a Pom can't fix

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 10:50 PM

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434 backstab damage

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 10:51 PM

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Respectable

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Just had a timer room, i killed everything as it spawned 😄

willow kindle Jan 12, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Is shield build still valuable?) Or everyone using spear?

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 10:54 PM

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Shield is my favorite, the special is cheese and the attack has innate push power

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 10:54 PM

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I don't think everyone is defaulting to spear as the ur-weapon

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Bow, though...

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Shield is perfectly viable

willow kindle Jan 12, 2019, 10:54 PM

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special is soooo cheese tho.

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 10:54 PM

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As are all weapons

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Bow is by far the easiest to craft a winning build with at the moment

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 10:55 PM

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wow. these past two runs are definitely Cast Runs moreso than involving the weapon

willow kindle Jan 12, 2019, 10:55 PM

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tornado patch to the special tho is kinda op

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 10:56 PM

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turns out storm shot is delicious when you happen to roll a rare

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 10:56 PM

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Found 3 poms now after getting athenas 80% dmg

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World splitter, dash crit and 141% attack increase...

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somebody hold me!

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omfg i deal 640 dmg per hit on meg....

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9 attacks ...

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 10:58 PM

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i am frustratingly low on poms

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to the point where right now i'm debating going to charon instead of athena in the hopes that he has one

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He Did Not

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 11:00 PM

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I usually go charon since he has a chance of pom on top of a god

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depending on the other choices ofc

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Nearly one shotting the small bombers

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who knew the boatride could be fun when you 2 shot everything

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I made the hydra impervious before it made its first attack between phases...

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This is a fun build xD

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 11:15 PM

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i got preciesly one pom during this entire run

drifting hemlock Jan 12, 2019, 11:15 PM

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I hope it was the biggest pom of them all!

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 11:18 PM

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guyjudgePoml pom guyjudgePomr

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 11:23 PM

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did it again!

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i think i actually adore using casts against hydra now

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nothing quite like the feeling of "oh god, i missed, now i have to try and get ammo back," or my favourite, "the hydra is doing a bunch of attacks but i NEED to go out and get my ammo"

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like that's not sarcasm that's genuinely fun

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 11:24 PM

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Man, this game really has a great cast, doesn't it

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You'll probably be even more into it with the (assumed) changes/buff to cast in the update around the corner

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 11:28 PM

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me in my first dozen runs or so: the cast SUCKS why would you EVER use it
me now: OH BOY ANOTHER CAST BOON

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 11:29 PM

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I completely agree, and that applies to a lot of things in this game in my experience

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See: my initial outright rejection of the bow as a garbage weapon

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Sometimes you just have to give things a chance and actually try them and/or learn how to use them properly

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 11:30 PM

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i'm a little sad at the lack of poms on that run because storm shot seems like it would be really, really good with a few poms loaded into it

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given the aoe and all

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 11:30 PM

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Though to be fair with the bow, that was at the very beginning before it pierced natively

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 11:30 PM

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which was, by the way, an absolute lifesaver on hydra

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 11:30 PM

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It's fine, you had that run in the pom of your hand anyway

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 11:31 PM

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especially because - of the 12 heads that spawned during the fight at least half of them were the spawner ones

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fun fact: you can knock the little egg things into the lava

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Yeah, learning that you can deflect lava bombs, bloodless eggs, and bomber... bombs is a real nice feeling

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 11:34 PM

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i've never managed to deflect the bomb bombs and i feel like, given that i had deflect on attack and on taking damage, i really shoulda during that run at least

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 11:35 PM

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The timing on it is a bit weird, in my experience

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I usually end up doing it unintentionally

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With Athena Dash, anyway

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 11:37 PM

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i also feel like cast really, really doesn't start getting fun until you get more ammo for it

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even having two can feel a little eh - but now that i'm up to 4, that's a lot more pew pew

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 11:38 PM

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It feels pretty good with 4, I find

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More is better, of course, but 4 is nice and you don't have to get the Arty boon to achieve it

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 11:38 PM

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actually on the first hydra kill i got tonight i had artemis's boon for 2 extra shots and i..... kept forgetting i had it,,

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one QoL thing i wish i'd thought to feedback before the channel closed is that i wish the little bloodstone counter on the healthbar ticked down as it got closer to unsticking

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you'd have a better sense of when you'd get more ammo back, and it would also be a nice visual indicator that yes, quick reload IS working

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 11:41 PM

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I wonder if they'll ever incorporate the Darkness you are absorbing as a story or gameplay mechanic, rather than strictly a resource... There's the groundwork there already for it with the explanation of Darkness, but I feel like there's potential for more there... Kinda like Hollowing in Dark Souls, if you're at all familiar

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That would be an excellent QoL improvement, sparrow

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 11:42 PM

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i'll have to remember it for when the channel's open again i guess!

frosty pier Jan 12, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Thing about deflecting bombs... Hit while they are in the air, it's too late if they landed. And hey, another connoseuir of Casts

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Is great, I dont feel like a living and breathing piece of chedder

worn dawn Jan 12, 2019, 11:47 PM

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I love zeus cast so much

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It’s a joy

elfin maple Jan 12, 2019, 11:48 PM

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I love Ares Cast, if you have some Buffs for it it can deal some mad dps

worn dawn Jan 12, 2019, 11:48 PM

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Zeus is just fun in general

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I like the chaos of lightning bouncing everywhere

elfin maple Jan 12, 2019, 11:48 PM

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yeah true

worn dawn Jan 12, 2019, 11:49 PM

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His legendary boon is my fav ❤

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 11:51 PM

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so far my favourites are athena and poseidon casts

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 11:51 PM

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I find the acceleration of the Athena cast animation weird, but maybe that's just me

worn dawn Jan 12, 2019, 11:52 PM

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I find Poseidon just falls off once I hit asphodel

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Since his casts just go flying off into the lava

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 11:52 PM

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also here have a teeny tiny gif of what i mean

📎 Ammo_Small.gif

worn dawn Jan 12, 2019, 11:52 PM

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Never to be seen again

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 11:53 PM

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yeah it's annoying that his casts seem to continue on if they kill whatever they hit

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Yeah, that would be nice, though probably very hard to see given how small they are in-game

pastel jolt Jan 12, 2019, 11:53 PM

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eh, it'd be of more use on bosses

naive acorn Jan 12, 2019, 11:56 PM

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I nearly never use cast, I find it so powerless :x

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Ha ha we were just talking about our own initial reaction to Cast as such. It really is quite powerful if you invest in it

elfin maple Jan 12, 2019, 11:57 PM

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I feel you but it can be usefull sometimes especially with the right boons

forest marsh Jan 12, 2019, 11:57 PM

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It bears repeating that every aspect of combat is viable for winning right now, providing you're willing to adapt and commit to it

naive acorn Jan 12, 2019, 11:58 PM

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well yeah, with the mirror maxed the game is a bit too easy imo

elfin maple Jan 12, 2019, 11:59 PM

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how do you have the mirror maxed already D:

naive acorn Jan 12, 2019, 11:59 PM

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by playing ? doh 😛

worn dawn Jan 12, 2019, 11:59 PM

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I maxed mine today!

naive acorn Jan 12, 2019, 11:59 PM

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the bot didn't like a word i said :x

elfin maple Jan 13, 2019, 12:00 AM

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well how long did it take you ? 😄 @worn dawn

worn dawn Jan 13, 2019, 12:00 AM

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About 90 runs for me

naive acorn Jan 13, 2019, 12:00 AM

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wut why my message disparead

elfin maple Jan 13, 2019, 12:01 AM

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ah well I only had like 20 runs so far lol the game is really really fun tho ^^

naive acorn Jan 13, 2019, 12:01 AM

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w/e well, you maximize the mirror pretty quick if you only go for fragment

pastel jolt Jan 13, 2019, 12:01 AM

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find a different way to phrase that message and maybe it'll get through, idk

worn dawn Jan 13, 2019, 12:02 AM

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I have realised today that there are strats for beating hydra other than facetanking it

naive acorn Jan 13, 2019, 12:02 AM

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👀

shadow oak Jan 13, 2019, 12:02 AM

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what do you mean randus

worn dawn Jan 13, 2019, 12:02 AM

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Which is how I finally won with bow

shadow oak Jan 13, 2019, 12:02 AM

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if you dont facetank

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you're not a REAL WARRIOR

worn dawn Jan 13, 2019, 12:02 AM

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I know, right?

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Sword is best

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Just run at hydra until it dies

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But it turns out that is bad with bow

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For some reason

naive acorn Jan 13, 2019, 12:03 AM

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first time i see this word getting filtered haha, well

pastel jolt Jan 13, 2019, 12:03 AM

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oi.

naive acorn Jan 13, 2019, 12:03 AM

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I pretty much love the bow

worn dawn Jan 13, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Oh wow it got deleted for me too

pastel jolt Jan 13, 2019, 12:03 AM

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the first time was the bot catching it.

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the times after that have been me.

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stop.

worn dawn Jan 13, 2019, 12:03 AM

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😛

elfin maple Jan 13, 2019, 12:03 AM

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I love the spear lol feels so good to use the spin attack

worn dawn Jan 13, 2019, 12:04 AM

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I like never use spin

forest marsh Jan 13, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Spin is so satisfying

worn dawn Jan 13, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Spam clicking is life

naive acorn Jan 13, 2019, 12:04 AM

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when the bot deleted my message i was using an other word, sparrow

shadow oak Jan 13, 2019, 12:04 AM

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yeah i'm not satisfied until i get carpal tunnel with the spear

pastel jolt Jan 13, 2019, 12:04 AM

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mhm

forest marsh Jan 13, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Getting 1k+ damage each on a huge mob of enemies 👌

pastel jolt Jan 13, 2019, 12:04 AM

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your replacement wasn't any better.

elfin maple Jan 13, 2019, 12:04 AM

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spin is really good if you wait for enemys to spawn to get some good start damage

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lol

worn dawn Jan 13, 2019, 12:04 AM

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What is this “wait”

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It sounds like something that isn’t spam clicking

shadow oak Jan 13, 2019, 12:05 AM

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yeah that's not a good play

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waiting in 2019

naive acorn Jan 13, 2019, 12:05 AM

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i don't see what in this word is bad, there is even a meme named like that

shadow oak Jan 13, 2019, 12:05 AM

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what am i, immortal?

elfin maple Jan 13, 2019, 12:05 AM

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i never use the spear throw tho haven't found a good use yet lol

shadow oak Jan 13, 2019, 12:05 AM

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yeah throw is hard to get working for me

pastel jolt Jan 13, 2019, 12:05 AM

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nils, i'm taking this to DMs so as not to derail the conversation

worn dawn Jan 13, 2019, 12:05 AM

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Yeah spear throw is pretty terrible

lost rose Jan 13, 2019, 12:05 AM

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Sometimes...memes are rude and mean!

elfin maple Jan 13, 2019, 12:06 AM

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i hate it when i get hammers and i can only upgrade my spear throw lol like come on i never use it anyway 😄

shadow oak Jan 13, 2019, 12:06 AM

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yeah

naive acorn Jan 13, 2019, 12:06 AM

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i just wont say it anymore, don't waste your time on that sparrow 😉 :3

worn dawn Jan 13, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Yeah that’s always tragic

shadow oak Jan 13, 2019, 12:06 AM

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oof

forest marsh Jan 13, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Chat has a dirty mouth today 🙃