#h1-builds-and-combat | Supergiant Games | Page 140

jolly chasm Jul 6, 2025, 1:08 AM

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I think haelian did one with Demeter fists

plain river Jul 6, 2025, 1:08 AM

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The hardest part about a solo run is making sure it’s only that god

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unless you have a specific heat in mind

jolly chasm Jul 6, 2025, 1:09 AM

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With a mod

lost tundra Jul 6, 2025, 1:09 AM

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or seeded

plain river Jul 6, 2025, 1:10 AM

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It’d have to be run control

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Not seeded

lost tundra Jul 6, 2025, 1:10 AM

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that's what i meant mb

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honestly, imma go play now

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bye chat

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ALCOHOLISM FOREVER

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nectar

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(in game guys)

jolly chasm Jul 6, 2025, 1:11 AM

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But now imma have no distractions from my degen resetting in tart :(

plain river Jul 6, 2025, 1:12 AM

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Unmodded degen resetting vs modded degen resetting

jolly chasm Jul 6, 2025, 1:12 AM

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Modded degen is worse tbh

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Cuz you never make it out of like c5

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You cope any run that gets an early cshot in unmodded

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Modded don’t gaf

plain river Jul 6, 2025, 1:15 AM

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jolly chasm You cope any run that gets an early cshot in unmodded

Me coping any run that gets dedge or even breaching slash

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but

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You just have a higher standard for acceptable rng because more of it has been removed

jolly chasm Jul 6, 2025, 1:17 AM

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Ye

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My standards are higher than other player aside from maybe jazz

plain river Jul 6, 2025, 1:17 AM

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~~Unmodded -> modded -> runcontrol pipeline~~

jolly chasm Jul 6, 2025, 1:18 AM

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Run control has more ring than you would think

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Fast coin my beloathed

plain river Jul 6, 2025, 1:20 AM

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jolly chasm Run control has more ring than you would think

I can’t remember what exactly seperates run control from seeded

jolly chasm Jul 6, 2025, 1:21 AM

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No rng Manips

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I hate autocorrect

lost tundra Jul 6, 2025, 2:43 AM

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back

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i tried 3 attempts

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all three of them aphro decided an attack boon was the last thing i wanted

plain river Jul 6, 2025, 4:47 AM

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@proper furnace what exactly gives Lightning R O D so much value

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I think you told me before but it’s been forever

proper furnace Jul 6, 2025, 8:25 AM

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Basically the fact boiling blood doesn't stack so you are always left with at minimum 2 rods at all times, let's you buy more bloodstones for more value @plain river

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Then rod itself is just good range passive dmg

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And is zeus so you are already stacking his passives

proper furnace Jul 6, 2025, 8:29 AM

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proper furnace Then rod itself is just good range passive dmg

You can just shoot the blood stones to a wall or to an impervious boss

subtle arrow Jul 6, 2025, 11:40 PM

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Hello, could please recommend the easiest and fastest build for me to clear the game?

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 12:05 AM

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subtle arrow Hello, could please recommend the easiest and fastest build for me to clear the ...

Depends

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What weapon

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This game is very well balanced: all the weapons are viable up to fairly high difficulties

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So knowing your preferred weapon would help

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 12:07 AM

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subtle arrow Hello, could please recommend the easiest and fastest build for me to clear the ...

And, for future reference, please go to #h1-for-new-players as to avoid spoilers

grim cairn Jul 7, 2025, 12:12 AM

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What is the best build por Varathea i am building artemisa + afrodita is good?

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 12:12 AM

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grim cairn What is the best build por Varathea i am building artemisa + afrodita is good?

It’s ok

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Do you like casts

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In my opinion I like using hunting blades or Dionysus cast

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 12:14 AM

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grim cairn What is the best build por Varathea i am building artemisa + afrodita is good?

Artemis is good, but Aphrodite doesn’t add much

proper furnace Jul 7, 2025, 12:15 AM

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Depends on the spear

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Zag/hades def can use that combo for the special build

subtle arrow Jul 7, 2025, 12:23 AM

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I use shield

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 12:28 AM

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subtle arrow I use shield

Have you unlocked aspects?

subtle arrow Jul 7, 2025, 12:44 AM

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no

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 12:59 AM

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Unlock them

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Do a run with every weapon

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:24 AM

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I'm struggling big time with everything except sword and gun

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:24 AM

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Ok

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How can I help

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:24 AM

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So I started using the pull fists

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Big fan of the pull fists

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:25 AM

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Talos?

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:25 AM

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But I feel very weak every time

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:25 AM

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ok…

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:25 AM

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they are pretty nifty

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Talos do be like that

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:25 AM

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proper wharf But I feel very weak every time

They kinda are

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Compared to other aspects

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:25 AM

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but also fists do be like that if you build them wrong

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:25 AM

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I got to Hades once but I had negative dmg

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:25 AM

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Sounds about right

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:25 AM

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I had Aphrodite on special and dash and I'm guessing I should be going for attack damage and boons

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:26 AM

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tizomg possibly

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:26 AM

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Aphrodite dash does no damage

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:26 AM

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aphrodite special isn’t bad for most fist builds

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:26 AM

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Figuratively

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:26 AM

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aside from Merciful End

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:26 AM

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Especially decent on aspect of Demeter

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:26 AM

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I'm only heat 5 btw

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Not far in at all

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:26 AM

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I figured

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:26 AM

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How much blood do you have?

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:27 AM

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3 but I'm saving for hidden aspects

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:27 AM

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~~50 gallons~~

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:27 AM

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I'm not entirely sure how to unlock them but I think I did it

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I've beaten it twice once with sword once with gun

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:27 AM

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proper wharf I'm not entirely sure how to unlock them but I think I did it

You have to get the spear first

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:27 AM

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Getting the first one is way more straight forward than the other ones tbh

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:27 AM

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I unlocked the first aspect for all weapons

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:27 AM

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Maybe straight forward is the wrong wording

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:27 AM

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And I talk to everyone after every run

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:27 AM

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“Way more you’ll stumble straight into it by accident”

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:27 AM

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With a ! Atleast

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:28 AM

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yep

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:28 AM

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So I think I met requirements

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It's Achilles right

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:28 AM

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yeah 5 aspects of any weapon unlocked and talk to achilles till he gives dialogue

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for the first one

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:28 AM

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So I'm still going through old dialogue

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No dialogue for escaping really for a ton

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:29 AM

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the rest are more weapon specific, and use different npcs

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:29 AM

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Pretty much just nyx meg and Hades responded

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:29 AM

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To be fair as far as most of the Gods know you get to the surface and then you die like every other time where you die to Hades

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:30 AM

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Shall we recommend fist builds?

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:30 AM

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True

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There’s kinda two avenues here, the ones that work really well with all fists due to them being fists, and the handful of ones that are specific to talos because it’s a castpect thanthink

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:30 AM

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Yes please

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Honestly builds for anything

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Also theseus is still by far the hardest boss

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Took me twenty attempts and he's still biggest hurdle if my build sucks

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Hades I win 2/3 times I get there

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:32 AM

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I have some really poorly written build guides in my notes

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:33 AM

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Is your PFP a niffler

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:33 AM

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YAH

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:33 AM

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W

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:33 AM

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WAHOO A NIFFLER RECOGNISER

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:33 AM

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I thought it was an astronaut lol

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Anyways is there any benefit even using zag aspects before upgrading?

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:34 AM

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proper wharf Honestly builds for anything

Fists do really 3 builds, because they’re on the lighter faster attacking side, the flat damage gods work really well.

Zeus on strike + static discharge pops off, good supporting boons r aphro special, tidal dash and zeus/dio call, put poms on discharge/tidal dash and dio call

Dio on strike does really well with all the poms on it, aphro special, and then you can do tidal or divine dash from there and ideally zeus call but it these are just like extra nice things to have

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Merciful End is the strongest but least consistent of the builds

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:34 AM

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plain river Fists do really 3 builds, because they’re on the lighter faster attacking side, ...

See I thought flat damage was good but like I got ares doom on attack and that don't stack

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:35 AM

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And merciful end

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:35 AM

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proper wharf See I thought flat damage was good but like I got ares doom on attack and that d...

MERCIFUL END TIMEEE

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:35 AM

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Ares strike + Athena special + Divine Dash and the Merciful End duo. Essentially you just dash-strike into enemies

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:35 AM

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Merciful end?

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:35 AM

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Drops doom when doomed enemies are hit with deflecting boons

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:35 AM

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I don't really know boon names

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:35 AM

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It’s the ares/athena duo

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:35 AM

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Ah ok

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:35 AM

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Merciful End:
The duo boon between Ares and Athena. It allows for the doom effect to drop immediately instead ion lingering over enemies. It will drop when hit with an attack that can deflect (ie Athena boons).
ME=Merciful End

CORE BOONS:
Ares attack
Athena Special
Athena dash

IMPORTANT BOONS:
Impending doom

COMPLEMENTARY BOONS:
Pressure points
Zeus call
Billowing call
Deadly Reversal

Game plan:
Equip Ares keepsake
Grab Ares attack
Play through Tartarus as usual, ensuring you minimise the amount of duo boons you can get so you have a higher chance of getting ME. If you see Athena, PRIORITISE IT ABOVE ALL ELSE. Grab the special. Know you’re eligible for ME, and every single chance you get you should fish for the duo. If you don’t get it, grab impending doom and divine dash.

Asphodel:
Grab Athena attack and repeat Tarrtarus. If you see Zeus in any room, grab the call and get billowing call when you can.

Elysium and Styx:
Grab chronic coin purse and Acorn respectively.
Pray you get ME.
Once you get it, grab the important and complementary boons. And shred. And melt everything.

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:36 AM

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Then what do you use to proc the doom?

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:36 AM

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Badly written guide summoned

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:36 AM

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Divine dash

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hits doomed enemies when you dash strike

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and you have curse of agony on strike

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to hit them as you dash-strike

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:36 AM

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It’s really strong

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Melts everything

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:36 AM

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Do dash strikes count as on attack btw?

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:36 AM

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dash-strike into enemy -> apply doom -> immediately deflect at the same time -> drop doom

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yes

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:37 AM

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Oh

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My

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God

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This changes everything

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:37 AM

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proper wharf This changes everything

bouldy

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:37 AM

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I was standing still when I got attack boons

proper furnace Jul 7, 2025, 2:37 AM

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Ouch

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:37 AM

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Oh gods no

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Ouch

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:37 AM

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Yea

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:37 AM

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I mean you could quite easily tell by just dash-striking into anything with any strike boon that had a rider effect

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:37 AM

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So I tended to go away from them

proper furnace Jul 7, 2025, 2:37 AM

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The only exceptions are some hammers

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:38 AM

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plain river I mean you could quite easily tell by just dash-striking into anything with any ...

like weaken applied on strikes etc

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:38 AM

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proper furnace The only exceptions are some hammers

And swift strike

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:38 AM

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Well I kinda just assumed because there are chaos upgrades where only dash strikes is upgraded

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I thought it was different

proper furnace Jul 7, 2025, 2:38 AM

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They are in the sense dash strike doesn't buff attack

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:38 AM

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rotund sluice And swift strike

swift strike couldn’t apply to most dash-strikes even if it wanted to tbh

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like what would swift strike do for a fist d-strike

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:39 AM

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What about good cast builds?

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:39 AM

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sure a gilgamesh d-strike I can see

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:39 AM

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proper wharf What about good cast builds?

Oh I’ve got some

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:39 AM

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proper wharf What about good cast builds?

tbh it depends on the castpect since some can make better use of different casts but

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:39 AM

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Hunting blades

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Dionysus cast

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Hera Aphrodite

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:39 AM

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I don't like Artemis cast strike

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:39 AM

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Beowulf Poseidon cast

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:40 AM

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BEOWULF?

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:40 AM

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Misspelt

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:40 AM

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I fear I haven't gotten that far

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:40 AM

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proper wharf I don't like Artemis cast strike

Artemis cast doesn’t get used for any

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:40 AM

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Idk how it autocorrected to Beowulf

proper furnace Jul 7, 2025, 2:40 AM

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BeOwOlf

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:40 AM

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proper wharf I fear I haven't gotten that far

You know how the hidden aspect of the spear was the aspect of Guan-Yu

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a very

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not greek guy

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:40 AM

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Nope

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:40 AM

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What

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:40 AM

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Haven't unlocked it

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Achilles refuses to talk about it

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:40 AM

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bouldy

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I thought you said you had it

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My b

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:41 AM

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Dw IDC about that spoiler or anything

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As long as it's not directly story related

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:41 AM

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anyhow all the hidden aspects are non-greek figures

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:41 AM

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Phew

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:41 AM

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I know Arthur is the sword

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Idk the others

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:41 AM

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Rama / gilgamesh / lucifer

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:41 AM

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What is rama

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:42 AM

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Bow / fist / rail respectively

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:42 AM

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Oh yes I also have chiron

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Been using it because I was told it's op

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:42 AM

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tizomg the bow aspect of all time

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:42 AM

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Demeter on hit

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:42 AM

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proper wharf Been using it because I was told it's op

It has a low skill floor

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:42 AM

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And ten chill equals burst

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:42 AM

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I’ll leave it at that

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:42 AM

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But it felt lacking on dmg and weak

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:43 AM

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My beloved 4th best bow aspect

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tizomg

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:43 AM

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So you don't like it

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Btw is there any benefit

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:43 AM

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I don’t like it and I’m also not really wrong for calling it the 4th best bow aspect

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:43 AM

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To using normal zag stuff no upgrade

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:44 AM

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uhhh some aspects are incompatible with certain hammers so some builds are only possible on certain aspects

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:44 AM

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Ahhh

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I zee

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:44 AM

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so if you had on zag and hades spear you could only do a flurry jab build on zag

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:44 AM

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So what does churon lock ya out of

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:44 AM

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because you don’t have achilles which can also take

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:44 AM

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proper wharf So what does churon lock ya out of

Really just charged volley

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Not every aspect locks out hammers

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Just ones where they literally wouldn’t be able to work

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 2:45 AM

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Like flurry jab on aspect of hades

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:45 AM

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Hades is all about the spin so you can’t remove the spin

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so you can’t take flurry jab

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or achilles has to keep it’s spear floatin around

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so you cannot get explosive launcher

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etc

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:46 AM

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Ok so I should stick with churon til I unlock another

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Cause I don't have anything upgraded

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:46 AM

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Yeah I mean chiron isn’t that bad at this point in the game where everything is viable

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You can absolutely have chiron take you to 20 heat and beyond you just suffer when trying to go farther into heat or speedrunning unless your name is Tim

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actually Tim probably suffers too he’s just cracked

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There are a few good builds for chiron but it’s not the next thing since the last cool thing like Hades reddit makes it out to be

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 2:49 AM

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Ok thanks I'm gonna go for a bit was chatting while cover banda playing now the good stuff is on

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 2:50 AM

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plain river There are a few good builds for chiron but it’s not the next thing since the las...

Hades reddit try not to be in the stone age challenge: impossible

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💔

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 3:08 AM

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plain river Hades reddit try not to be in the stone age challenge: impossible

Hades Reddit is where I got info

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And lost right away

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Cause it was NOT op

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 3:11 AM

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proper wharf Cause it was NOT op

Chiron isn’t bad but the Hades reddit has a lot of… misinformed and behind the times users

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Like you’d think they’re still playing in early access

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 3:13 AM

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Nah chiron with Demeter on attack and burst Demeter boon

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Hot take

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I think that burst boon is bad

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Chill is op

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Maybe I'm wrong

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 3:14 AM

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proper wharf I think that burst boon is bad

The burst boon is sad on demeter because of the cooldown in between when burst happens and when you can start applying chill again

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 3:14 AM

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proper wharf I think that burst boon is bad

Cold take

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Pun intended

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 3:15 AM

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but also just like

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demeter isn’t the greatest god in the first place

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 3:15 AM

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Probably the worst imo

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 3:15 AM

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I wasn’t going to say that but I do agree ngl

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she lowkey has the least places as a secondary god in buulds

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 3:16 AM

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Her duos suck minus ice wine (my beloved)

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 3:16 AM

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and only is a main focus in 1 build for maybe 2 boons

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ih yeah ice wine dxists

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 3:16 AM

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plain river and only is a main focus in 1 build for maybe 2 boons

Meme beam?

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 3:16 AM

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Snow burst and rav will on hera

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w/ crush shot from aphro

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Snurst is a shoe-in

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 3:17 AM

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Not really a “main focus” then

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 3:17 AM

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No

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You force dem for snow burst

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if you don’t find her

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although I’m far behind the times on Hera speedrunning

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 3:17 AM

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But it’s not a core boon

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 3:17 AM

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but

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 3:17 AM

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That’s what I count as “main focus”

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Or a duo

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 3:17 AM

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it’s literally your 2nd highest priority

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after crush shot

proper furnace Jul 7, 2025, 3:18 AM

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Your other cores often just dilute the pom pool

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 3:18 AM

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plain river it’s literally your 2nd highest priority

Hera literally only needs crush shot to be decent

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 3:49 AM

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Yo!

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what about aspect of zeus shield

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friend told me i should try it

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 3:53 AM

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proper wharf what about aspect of zeus shield

It’s really solid

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best shield for pushing heat

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 3:53 AM

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any reccomendations for duo boons i should look for or hammers

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 3:53 AM

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Duo boons not really

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It’s mainly zeus special with static discharge

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and then if you wanted you can go aphrodite on strike and zeus or dio call with smouldering air for 5s minicalls

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Explosive Return is the zeus hammer

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 3:54 AM

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plain river It’s mainly zeus special with static discharge

zeus as in aspect

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or boon

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 3:54 AM

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no

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I understand that

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One of the best builds zeus aspect is to just use zeus

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 3:55 AM

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thunderflourish?

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 3:55 AM

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yep

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 3:55 AM

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ah

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OH

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i understand

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 3:55 AM

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zeus^2

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 3:55 AM

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oh my god

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the damage

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 3:56 AM

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Yeahh

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also chaos +% works really well once you have it at level 4 and 5

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You can start using like aphro special

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 3:56 AM

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chaos didnt bless me with that

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 3:57 AM

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happens

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Chaos is pretty much always worth taking thou

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strike damage, dstrike, special, cast, it has whatever you need for your builds

proper wharf Jul 7, 2025, 3:57 AM

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went with more money

final coyote Jul 7, 2025, 1:28 PM

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so I was trying to get Trippy Shot + Scintillating Feast + Ice Wine

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and I just did it’s wild

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jolted lol

misty rover Jul 7, 2025, 1:37 PM

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Hell yea. I finally got a successful Vengeful Mood build on my current run, cant wait to go home and finish it

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Its my 5th save file, I havent beaten Fatha yet in like 9 runs which is a dip in my personal best, but im just playing for fun and to relive the plot again anyways

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My last save, I think I got the credits in less than 15 runs? And if anything it just felt like the dialogue from the characters (esp at the House) lagged to catch up to beating the main story that fast lol

plain river Jul 7, 2025, 3:00 PM

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misty rover My last save, I think I got the credits in less than 15 runs? And if anything it...

Yeah

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You sequence break when you go that fast

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and npcs pull their dialogue out at random too tbf

misty rover Jul 7, 2025, 3:04 PM

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Yeah, i think theres a couple dialogue paths early on that get a priority, like Achilles telling you about the weapons and whatnot, and the convos between Hades and Nyx or Orpheus or Thanatos

rotund sluice Jul 7, 2025, 10:32 PM

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Hades 2

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Please go there and delete your message

sharp haven Jul 8, 2025, 2:27 AM

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Any builds for malphon fists?

plain river Jul 8, 2025, 2:27 AM

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there are like 3 good ones yeah

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I sent messages about this last night so I might just copy them

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Fists do really 3 builds, because they’re on the lighter faster attacking side, the flat damage gods work really well.

Lightning focused one:
Zeus on strike + static discharge pops off, good supporting boons r aphro special, tidal dash and zeus/dio call, put poms on discharge/tidal dash and dio call

Hangover Focused one:
Dio on strike does really well with all the poms on it, aphro special, and then you can do tidal or divine dash from there and ideally zeus call but it these are just like extra nice things to have

Merciful End:
Merciful End is the strongest but least consistent of the builds
Ares strike + Athena special + Divine Dash and the Merciful End duo. Essentially you just dash-strike into enemies, apply doom and immediatel hit them with divine dash to drop doom

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for your hammers you just want breaching cross and the rest is less important (long knuckle and explosive upper are both notable though)

pseudo vapor Jul 8, 2025, 2:33 AM

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sharp haven Any builds for malphon fists?

if you have ||aspects then put on Zag and Lambent Plume|| if not, just put anything on the attack, dashstrike, 3 hit, dash behind strike, 3 hit, etc

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But for proper broken ones, Shackle named them all

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Except for the invincibilty one, but you really have to get rolling knuckle for that one, then you just stick on Athena and deflect everything

plain river Jul 8, 2025, 2:39 AM

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also @sharp haven if you're looking for more build information and nobodies on or maybe the persony you're talking to just feels like they're the blind leading the blind

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you can check out the build website pinned in this channel

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Nyaanyaa Mewmew sent it a little while ago it's like the third pin as you scroll down

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it has some meta builds for each aspect, but also a bunch of just decent builds, and it doesn't really distinguish between them

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but you should be good with anything from there

sleek wind Jul 8, 2025, 1:39 PM

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I have been playing spear almost all the time

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Now i tried out hera bow and died to hades(beaten him twice back to back with zagreus spear) and now i am in charon run

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But bow doesn't click with me

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Charon bow doesn't feel good right now and hera was annoying to play, having to reload 6 casts isn't quick. Maybe I can't build them

proper furnace Jul 8, 2025, 1:44 PM

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sleek wind Charon bow doesn't feel good right now and hera was annoying to play, having to ...

Chiron bow stinky at low levels

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Try remapping your cast to a more comfortable button

tight basin Jul 8, 2025, 3:13 PM

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sleek wind Charon bow doesn't feel good right now and hera was annoying to play, having to ...

How are you getting 6 casts on hera lmfao

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For hera it's probably a build thing

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Get Aphrodite cast and that's basically all you need

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Pom it a loy

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Lot

plain river Jul 8, 2025, 3:16 PM

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sleek wind Charon bow doesn't feel good right now and hera was annoying to play, having to ...

With Hera it might be a button mapping thing

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But you also shouldn’t be loading all 6 casts with each shot, you’re better off with 2 for consistency and then you can take out a bunch of enemies with 2 casts each instead of dumping 6 off at one and wildly overkilling them

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<@&456908176877551658>

plain river Jul 8, 2025, 3:19 PM

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plain river But you also shouldn’t be loading all 6 casts with each shot, you’re better off ...

And when bossing then you can have some consistency damage output without really aggresivelg killing your hands because the casts will drop in a staggered timeframe

subtle arrow Jul 8, 2025, 4:12 PM

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What affects the damage of the Beowulf aspect?
I increase Attack damage?
I increase Cast damage?
I'm confused.

shy frigate Jul 8, 2025, 4:13 PM

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Cast damage is instant, as in when u equip the cast on the shield

proper furnace Jul 8, 2025, 4:25 PM

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subtle arrow What affects the damage of the Beowulf aspect? I increase Attack damage? I incr...

Your attack/bullrush gets buffed by attack increases, when you press a cast you load it into the weapon, releasing it at the end of a bullrush

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The cast itself is buffed by cast dmg increases

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Loading a cast will buff the dmg and size of your bullrush

subtle arrow Jul 8, 2025, 4:28 PM

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Which one expect the most damage

plain river Jul 8, 2025, 4:33 PM

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subtle arrow Which one expect the most damage

With a good cast, cast damage is a larger priority

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it will do more

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So like poseidon, dionysus, aphrodite off the top of my head

subtle arrow Jul 8, 2025, 4:53 PM

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plain river With a good cast, cast damage is a larger priority

thanks

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https://ibb.co/PzVLjpjr
Can't decide. shadeembarassed

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dull viper Jul 8, 2025, 5:02 PM

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subtle arrow https://ibb.co/PzVLjpjr Can't decide. <:shadeembarassed:520448365809500175>

depends on aspect and whether you have jolted or not

subtle arrow Jul 8, 2025, 5:16 PM

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If I keep a certain god's keepsakes with me continuously, will that god's boon appear more frequently?

dull viper Jul 8, 2025, 5:18 PM

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subtle arrow If I keep a certain god's keepsakes with me continuously, will that god's boon a...

the rarity bonus will stay but it won't appear any more frequently

proper furnace Jul 8, 2025, 5:45 PM

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subtle arrow https://ibb.co/PzVLjpjr Can't decide. <:shadeembarassed:520448365809500175>

Is that thunder flare

coral forge Jul 8, 2025, 7:51 PM

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proper furnace Is that thunder flare

yea it is. i would def suggest pos or at least aphro cast for beo (i think that’s what he’s using?)

subtle arrow Jul 9, 2025, 2:20 AM

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For the Beowulf aspect, is it better to charge multiple Bloodstones and rush once, or charge one at a time and rush multiple times?

proper furnace Jul 9, 2025, 2:41 AM

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subtle arrow For the Beowulf aspect, is it better to charge multiple Bloodstones and rush onc...

2 casts > rush > 1 cast > rush

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Adapt on the fly depending on the number of casts you have or how many it takes to kill something

peak heron Jul 9, 2025, 10:40 AM

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Having a bit of trouble using the rail. What build would generally be a nice go-to for it?

rotund sluice Jul 9, 2025, 10:42 AM

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peak heron Having a bit of trouble using the rail. What build would generally be a nice go-...

I’m assuming no aspects?

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If so, Zeus attack and Poseidon dash are really good

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Plus Aphrodite or Artemis on the special

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Get that and you’re golden

peak heron Jul 9, 2025, 10:43 AM

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I have all the aspects. It's just consistently the weapon I perform the worst with

rotund sluice Jul 9, 2025, 10:43 AM

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Ah

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Then

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Aspect of Eris:
This is the best of the Rail (gun) aspects. It makes you gain a damage buff if you are inside the explosion radius of your special (don’t worry u won’t get hurt). The damage buff is global, which is busted.

CORE BOONS:
Zeus attack
Artemis special
Poseidon dash

IMPORTANT BOONS:
Static Discharge

COMPLEMENTARY BOONS:
Rush delivery
Hyper sprint
Razor shoals
Double strike
Splitting bolt
Zeus aid
Billowing call
Chaos special boons
Dionysus aid if you get offered it.

HAMMERS:
Rocket bomb
Cluster bomb
These two make cluster rockets (clockets)
Apart from that,
Triple bombs
Targeting system

GAME PLAN:
Zeus keepsake in Tartarus
Grab Zeus attack
Breeze through Tartarus and grab static discharge if you can. If you see Artemis or Poseidon, grab their boons. Remember to always stay within your explosion’s radius and move as fast and as safely as possible. If you’re offered a complementary boon grab that.

Asphodel:
Grab either Poseidon or Artemis.
Exactly the same as Tartarus.

Elysium:
Grab either Poseidon or Artemis. If you have them, go for coin purse or hourglass.
Exactly the same as Tartarus.

Styx:
Shoot everything. Grab the acorn keepsake.

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This is a relative poorly self written Eris guide

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But it has the basics

analog mauve Jul 9, 2025, 10:53 AM

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rotund sluice Aspect of Eris: This is the best of the Rail (gun) aspects. It makes you gain a ...

Where is delta chamber 💔

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Arguably best hammer

rotund sluice Jul 9, 2025, 10:53 AM

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It’s nice

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But not broken

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And we like broken

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Plus I put it together at 10pm a few days ago

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I wasn’t exactly of sane mind

peak heron Jul 9, 2025, 11:02 AM

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rotund sluice Aspect of Eris: This is the best of the Rail (gun) aspects. It makes you gain a ...

Thanks! I'll try this

rotund sluice Jul 9, 2025, 11:02 AM

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No problem

proper furnace Jul 9, 2025, 11:59 AM

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rotund sluice And we like broken

Keeping iframes on dash strikes is kinda strong

rotund sluice Jul 9, 2025, 12:00 PM

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proper furnace Keeping iframes on dash strikes is kinda strong

Not as strong as cluster rockets

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But yeah I should add it

grim cairn Jul 9, 2025, 11:36 PM

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yo guys i need some bless for my standar atack, i have special artemis and dash zeus, now wich bless i search

modest patio Jul 10, 2025, 4:03 AM

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I never rlly used Beowulf's shield, can't seem to get past Elysium with it even on low heat

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any tips?

still vortex Jul 10, 2025, 4:04 AM

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I’ve used it 4 times total on this save file versus hunting blades 15 times. Lightning rod 35 times.

dull viper Jul 10, 2025, 4:04 AM

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modest patio any tips?

don't load all your casts at once, start poseidon cast and try to get mirage shot (duo with artemis), charged shot is the best hammer

still vortex Jul 10, 2025, 4:05 AM

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dull viper don't load all your casts at once, start poseidon cast and try to get mirage sho...

Don’t like dio cast?

dull viper Jul 10, 2025, 4:07 AM

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still vortex Don’t like dio cast?

dio is also good you can use that

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but poseidon cast into mirage shot is more consistent

modest patio Jul 10, 2025, 4:11 AM

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dull viper don't load all your casts at once, start poseidon cast and try to get mirage sho...

Someone else told me the same thing, I tried 2 runs n I did get poseidon cast and the artemis boon on both. I get completely cooked in Elysium tho, and have a lot of trouble in asphodel too. This was only on like 4 heat I'm pretty sure

still vortex Jul 10, 2025, 4:11 AM

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I think you can try to force both. You don’t need Artemis or poseidon on cast to get that duo.

modest patio Jul 10, 2025, 4:11 AM

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I haven't managed to get mirage shot tho, just pray for rng?

still vortex Jul 10, 2025, 4:12 AM

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You can do the mirror that increases duo chances.

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And rerolls

dull viper Jul 10, 2025, 4:12 AM

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modest patio I haven't managed to get mirage shot tho, just pray for rng?

do you have mirror maxed out?

modest patio Jul 10, 2025, 4:12 AM

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still vortex You can do the mirror that increases duo chances.

oh shi i forgot that existed

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ok gonna try again, wish me luck

still vortex Jul 10, 2025, 4:12 AM

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I have it permanent on. I love duos

dull viper Jul 10, 2025, 4:12 AM

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rerolls from fated persuasion help you get duos

modest patio Jul 10, 2025, 4:13 AM

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yeah I'd been trying those, haven't played in a hot minute so forgot a bunch of stuff

plain river Jul 10, 2025, 4:19 AM

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still vortex I have it permanent on. I love duos

Lowkey idk the last time I had God’s Legacy on

plain river Jul 10, 2025, 4:24 AM

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still vortex I’ve used it 4 times total on this save file versus hunting blades 15 times. Lig...

ROD 35 times is wild

still vortex Jul 10, 2025, 4:26 AM

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Can someone help me understand Gilgamesh. I just noticed dash strikes on smelly hit for 20 where normal strikes hit for 60. What’s with that?

analog mauve Jul 10, 2025, 4:27 AM

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Yes

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How it works

rotund sluice Jul 10, 2025, 4:31 AM

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still vortex Can someone help me understand Gilgamesh. I just noticed dash strikes on smelly ...

The dash strikes are weaker, you get more dashes, you get shorter dashes, your attack speed is weaker, your attack damage increases, your dash upper applies Maim (doom but takes longer to proc, does more damage, gives you a damage multiplier increase and increases damage dealt to you)

plain river Jul 10, 2025, 4:34 AM

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still vortex Can someone help me understand Gilgamesh. I just noticed dash strikes on smelly ...

Dash-strikes don’t necessarily do the same amount of base damage as a standing strike, it depends on the weapon/aspect

still vortex Jul 10, 2025, 5:07 AM

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I thought dash strikes typically did more damage.

plain river Jul 10, 2025, 5:10 AM

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still vortex I thought dash strikes typically did more damage.

They’re more dps

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they often land in the range of a weapons standing strike combo if not on the lower end

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ish

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eh it really depends ngl

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Swords is 30, where a single strike is 20 and the last hit of the combo is 30.
Spears is 20 which is lower than a single standing strike
Shield is equal (same w/ hidden)
Bow is 2/3’s the damage of a standing strike but it fires off 50% more shots. (Same w/ hidden)
Fist is 25 while each hit of the standing combo is 15
And rail is equal

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and that’s just the base weapons

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So it kind of really depends

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but it’s pretty much always better dps to dash-strike than standing strike on every weapon cuz speed and also dash-strike damage bonuses from chaos

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and dash boons

feral siren Jul 10, 2025, 7:57 AM

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~~and also youre dashing normally so a large chunk of the attacks you dont have to dodgr and can instead do damage in that time~~

bronze pelican Jul 10, 2025, 3:32 PM

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If you use twin shot with Hera bow, do both arrows do the cast, or just 1?

proper furnace Jul 10, 2025, 3:36 PM

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bronze pelican If you use twin shot with Hera bow, do both arrows do the cast, or just 1?

Just 1

jovial moat Jul 10, 2025, 9:45 PM

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can anyone help me w beowulf? js need a general guide/strategy

rotund sluice Jul 10, 2025, 10:17 PM

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jovial moat can anyone help me w beowulf? js need a general guide/strategy

Rush Mirage shot with Beowulf, it’s bugged. Get Poseidon cast in Tartarus. Don’t use all your casts at once, Pom your cast, dash strike into your bull rush, take charged shot and remember to take more casts/ cast damage from chaos.

jovial moat Jul 10, 2025, 10:30 PM

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alr tysm

opaque elm Jul 11, 2025, 1:22 AM

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which weapon aspect should I get first? (It's my first time playing the game tho)

plain river Jul 11, 2025, 1:23 AM

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opaque elm which weapon aspect should I get first? (It's my first time playing the game tho...

I think if you’re trying to get the most value out, then these 3 are really solid at level 1:
nemesis for sword,
zeus for shield,
hera for bow

opaque elm Jul 11, 2025, 1:23 AM

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plain river I think if you’re trying to get the most value out, then these 3 are really soli...

okay thank you

plain river Jul 11, 2025, 1:24 AM

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opaque elm okay thank you

They work great at max level, but the most important function of them is what they do at level 1

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extra levels just boost it farther

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I’d also say Achilles for spear to a lesser degree

opaque elm Jul 11, 2025, 1:25 AM

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plain river extra levels just boost it farther

which one should I get first tho? (I only have one of that heart thing for aspects)

plain river Jul 11, 2025, 1:25 AM

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Hmm

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which weapons do you like using

opaque elm Jul 11, 2025, 1:25 AM

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bow

plain river Jul 11, 2025, 1:25 AM

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hera is practically the base bow, but when you cast it loads it into your next shot

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right

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So you keep doing regular bow things you can just build up a strong cast for burst damage

opaque elm Jul 11, 2025, 1:27 AM

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oh okay thanks for the advice

plain river Jul 11, 2025, 1:27 AM

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if you’re on controller though you may want to remap cast to one of the triggers though? It just makes the cast loading more seamless

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at least in my personal experience

plain river Jul 11, 2025, 1:28 AM

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opaque elm oh okay thanks for the advice

Oh & before I forget

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If you check the pins in #h1-for-new-players there’s a little aspect guide that shows you the ~relative strength of each aspect at each level

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it can help you with figuring out what aspects you want to get and how you want to spend your blood

opaque elm Jul 11, 2025, 1:43 AM

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plain river it can help you with figuring out what aspects you want to get and how you want ...

oh thank you

rough blade Jul 11, 2025, 3:42 AM

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aspect of hera is best (no bias whatsoever)

subtle arrow Jul 11, 2025, 6:13 AM

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If I kill with Ares’ boon that strengthens my next attack, does the effect stack if a single attack kills multiple enemies in succession?

rotund sluice Jul 11, 2025, 6:13 AM

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No

final coyote Jul 11, 2025, 1:51 PM

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Aspect of Hera
4 Casts thanks to Chaos
Trippy Flare Lv. 8 (286)
Braid of Atlas
Black Out
Drunken Strike Lv. 7
Artemis' Aid Lv. 9

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Killed Hades in two steps on his third round, just shoot him once with all four casts loaded and Trigger artemis' greater call

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Boom, dead

rotund sluice Jul 11, 2025, 10:50 PM

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Trippy shot Hera does hit hard

proper furnace Jul 12, 2025, 4:18 AM

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Wrong chat #h2-builds-and-combat (pls delete)

kind cloud Jul 12, 2025, 4:19 AM

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proper furnace Wrong chat <#1233146182835114035> (pls delete)

My bad. Yeah, I posted in the wrong channel.

solid plaza Jul 12, 2025, 4:45 AM

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Gamers, are there any tips or rules of thumb for Eurydice spawns? I've been trying to force a fun run where I only enter with Swift Strike or Flourish with only one other born to force a Heroic Swift boon, and she's not showing up. Is it all random and I just gotta get lucky, or is it like "more likely after or before a midboss?"

rotund sluice Jul 12, 2025, 5:12 AM

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solid plaza Gamers, are there any tips or rules of thumb for Eurydice spawns? I've been tryi...

No not really

dull viper Jul 12, 2025, 5:12 AM

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solid plaza Gamers, are there any tips or rules of thumb for Eurydice spawns? I've been tryi...

completely random

solid plaza Jul 12, 2025, 5:18 AM

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That honestly makes it easier, don't gotta worry about anything else. TY!

magic bramble Jul 13, 2025, 1:17 AM

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do you guys know about the cast build that windett (youtuber and twitch streamer) talks about?
i tried adding it to aspect of nemesis and it's insane!!! shadefear

jolly chasm Jul 13, 2025, 1:19 AM

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I never watch the full vid

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Wasn’t it some trippy shot plus Scintillating feast thing?

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If so, then yeah it’s pretty good

plain river Jul 13, 2025, 1:33 AM

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jolly chasm Wasn’t it some trippy shot plus Scintillating feast thing?

It’s lowkey insane how many people have come in talking about Trippy Shot w/ scillanting icewine and ROD

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specifically

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from

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Windette

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“how many people” and I’ve seen it happen like

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thrice

rotund sluice Jul 13, 2025, 2:41 AM

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Like its popular enough that I have a poorly written guide for it

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Maybe also cuz I love ice wine but idk

heady zephyr Jul 13, 2025, 6:25 AM

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i need a good gauntlets build pls

rotund sluice Jul 13, 2025, 6:32 AM

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heady zephyr i need a good gauntlets build pls

ZA(P)
Standard fists build. Remember to dash upper, but be warned that it can miss because of splash dash.

CORE BOONS:
Zeus attack
Artemis/aphrodite special
Poseidon dash

Important boons:
Static discharge
If you have Privileged status, razor shoals

Complementary boons:
Billowing call
Zeus aid
Splitting bolt
Double strike
Smoldering air (Zeus + Aphrodite duo) if you get Aphrodite special
Hyper sprint
Rush delivery
Chaos special damage boons
Support fire

Game plan:
Take Zeus keepsake and yoink the attack. If you see Aphrodite, Artemis or Poseidon, take their respective boons. Gather as many complimentary boons as possible.

REPEAT FOR THE REST OF THE RUN

heady zephyr Jul 13, 2025, 6:33 AM

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thank you

still vortex Jul 14, 2025, 3:10 AM

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Should I do my next run with Lucifer or Eris or hestia?

stoic wasp Jul 14, 2025, 3:26 AM

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Whats a good spear build?

plain river Jul 14, 2025, 3:32 AM

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stoic wasp Whats a good spear build?

It heavily depends on your aspect tbh

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but also for future reference the build website in this channels pins has builds that range from decent to meta for every weapon aspect

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mainly saying that because I’m tired and idk if I’ll be awake when you reply w/ your aspect of choice

still vortex Jul 14, 2025, 4:01 AM

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@plain river what gun aspect should be my next run?

plain river Jul 14, 2025, 4:14 AM

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still vortex <@733775512991694900> what gun aspect should be my next run?

Zag

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spreadfire if you’re familiar with the build and can hit the hammer

drifting trout Jul 14, 2025, 11:33 AM

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damn cluster bomb zeus is stupidly fun

drifting trout Jul 14, 2025, 2:33 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1223982330952155238/1394325845300219914/image.png?ex=687666a2&is=68751522&hm=b6cae8fde8c62c7476c45950b3877ed62fce099f72d492c3d8a65cb89235e8d1&

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can jolt dmg crit?

plain river Jul 14, 2025, 2:33 PM

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yeah

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pretty much every damage source

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can

drifting trout Jul 14, 2025, 2:34 PM

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so zeus + artemis....DAMN

plain river Jul 14, 2025, 2:34 PM

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some, like maim, summons, and traps can only crit with hunter’s mark but everything else can crit off pressure points and deadly reversal iirc

drifting trout Jul 14, 2025, 2:35 PM

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still not sure if it's better to run dio aphrodite vs zeus artemis

plain river Jul 14, 2025, 2:35 PM

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for

drifting trout Jul 14, 2025, 2:35 PM

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on rail

plain river Jul 14, 2025, 2:35 PM

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Zeus is pretty much always a better play

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Although if you’re going out of your way for the second god

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It’d probably be poseidon for tidal dash

drifting trout Jul 14, 2025, 2:36 PM

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too bad dio's cast cant inflict hangover 😔

drifting trout Jul 14, 2025, 2:37 PM

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plain river Although if you’re going out of your way for the second god

wouldnt it be better to have aphro as my second god?

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for that sweet surrender boon

plain river Jul 14, 2025, 3:06 PM

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drifting trout for that sweet surrender boon

No

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like

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sweet surrender is solid but not that crazy yk

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aphro is still a really solid god here because she opens smouldering air thou

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smouldering air with zeus or dio call is crazy dps

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if it is eris though, tidal dash is just too much value, and even on zag rail the damage is still crazy

drifting trout Jul 14, 2025, 3:11 PM

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why tidal dash?

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also wait...what do you mean by second god

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does hades prioritize your first two gods for boons?

plain river Jul 14, 2025, 3:13 PM

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drifting trout also wait...what do you mean by second god

Like

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You force one in tartarus and force a second one in asphodel

plain river Jul 14, 2025, 3:13 PM

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drifting trout does hades prioritize your first two gods for boons?

No

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just getting a god in your god pool is what matters

drifting trout Jul 14, 2025, 3:14 PM

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ah

plain river Jul 14, 2025, 3:14 PM

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drifting trout why tidal dash?

It’s fast, has good aoe, and has really solid damage numbers once pommed

drifting trout Jul 14, 2025, 3:14 PM

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never thought about using dash for dmg tbh

plain river Jul 14, 2025, 3:15 PM

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It’s to the point where some builds just straight up start with it and figure out their strike situation later based on who they find in tartarus

plain river Jul 14, 2025, 3:16 PM

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drifting trout never thought about using dash for dmg tbh

I mean pretty much every dash boon aside from divine dash and aphro’s dash is primarily dealing damage

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even then the builds that would intentionally take either of those two dashes typically use them offensively anyways

tight basin Jul 14, 2025, 4:19 PM

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Aphro dash arguably is better for damage than Mistral dash lmao

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Mistral is useful for stripping DC I suppose but otherwise damage is nonexistent

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And nasty dash I guess lmao

still vortex Jul 14, 2025, 7:23 PM

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plain river spreadfire if you’re familiar with the build and can hit the hammer

not super familiar... so I just hope to get that hammer, and then what?

drifting trout Jul 14, 2025, 7:57 PM

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scintillating feast + ice wine is so cracked wtf

plain river Jul 15, 2025, 12:37 AM

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still vortex not super familiar... so I just hope to get that hammer, and then what?

Just got home, saw this. I’m going to shower then I’ll do a tiny write-up on spreadfire zagrail

plain river Jul 15, 2025, 1:11 AM

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still vortex not super familiar... so I just hope to get that hammer, and then what?

Just to preface, spreadfire is a little awkward to build for. Since it essentially flips rail strike on it’s head, if you’re aiming for it and your first hammer isn’t spreadfire, I’d probably abandon the idea of running it.

What it does is turn rail strike from a very fast attacking low base damage strikes into a slightly slower high base damage strike.
This runs counter to standard zeus or dio strike builds, and opens up your strike options to literally every +% goddess, and Ares with Merciful End (I mean you can run ME on zagrail without it but spreadfire means more base damage is thrown around).

You can kind of build it however you want.
Notably, the Strike, Lunge, and Ambush boons from Chaos are now all on the table, and their Assault boons have more value as well. (Also Cyclops Jerky/ Cylcops Jerky Select from Wells/Patroclus).

From actual gods;
A typical melee weapon Merciful End build works, but Spreadfire Zagrail is also the only weapon with the damage and attack speed to make Demeter Strike work fully. Otherwise you can easily just go huge damage w/ aphro strike and sweet surrender, or crits with Artemis (as long as you hit good chaos).

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I’d mainly go for this build if I try a zag rail run and the first hammer is chamber 1 w/ spreadfire as an option, but occasionally I’ll just start w/ tidal dash or shattered shackle and try to hunt it down

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For your dash(on builds other than ME), tidal dash pretty much remains king like other melee weapons, but hunter dash, blade dash and thunder dash all have good use cases.

still vortex Jul 15, 2025, 5:11 AM

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I’ve never felt like blade dash was viable

rotund sluice Jul 15, 2025, 7:32 AM

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It never really was that good

plain river Jul 15, 2025, 11:03 AM

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still vortex I’ve never felt like blade dash was viable

It’s like fine

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mostly a cope pick ngl

pallid rapids Jul 15, 2025, 5:21 PM

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plain river mostly a cope pick ngl

me when the gods wont give me the dash boon i want

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plain river Jul 16, 2025, 4:59 PM

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These charged special hammers man

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Charged Skewer, Charged Flight

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They’re just good

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Kinetic Launcher for fists as well but really only for demeter

stoic wasp Jul 18, 2025, 3:16 AM

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What is the “best” hidden aspect to get?

lucid oar Jul 18, 2025, 3:18 AM

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beowulf

stoic wasp Jul 18, 2025, 3:23 AM

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What weapon is that?

frank goblet Jul 18, 2025, 3:23 AM

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shield

stoic wasp Jul 18, 2025, 3:28 AM

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Thanks!

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:37 AM

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I'm not sure what this is called and the internet isn't helping so I came here but earlier I was doing a run and I had a thing for the shield bull rush that made it like a ranged attack but I can't remember the name of it

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:38 AM

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Charged Shot

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One of the hammer options for Shield

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:39 AM

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thank you😭

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:39 AM

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woven olive thank you😭

I’ve got a website that can be pretty helpful for this kind of thing but it does have some spoilers if you’ve never reached the surface

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:40 AM

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I did reach it earlier but hades killed me

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the charged shot is what helped me get there that was my first time

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:40 AM

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woven olive I did reach it earlier but hades killed me

Have you done a run since?

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:40 AM

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I was so close too I down 3/4 of his hp

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yea but never got to surface

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:40 AM

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have you seen

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mmm

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should be something new maybe you haven’t run into what I’m thinking of yet

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:41 AM

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no idea what you're thinking of

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:41 AM

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dang

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Here I have the link you’ll just probably notice the one addition immediately I figure

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https://cpecific.github.io/hades-wiki/

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It’s a nice website that lets you look at all the boons and hammers from different gods and weapons

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Including info the game doesn’t tell you for a few

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and you can click and do some other maneuvering on pc to change the rarity and level of boons to see what it looks like better

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:43 AM

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this is lowkey really helpful

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I've been trying to remember what I had earlier

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:43 AM

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hammers give you slightly more info about their functions including which other hammers they are incompatible with

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:44 AM

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I know I had the athena dash thingy that reflects and a poseidon thingy and a whatever the god of wine's name is thingy

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:44 AM

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my favourite tooltip might be Exclusive Access though because the websites creator had a field day with it

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Dionysus

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:45 AM

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yea I had no idea how to spell his name 😭

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:45 AM

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plain river my favourite tooltip might be Exclusive Access though because the websites creat...

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woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:46 AM

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this is so much information I am so confused on what I'm looking at

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:46 AM

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uhh

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there’s a duo boon between dionysus and poseidon that sets your epic chance to +100%

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And that’s all

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so you always get epics

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:46 AM

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that sounds so broken

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:47 AM

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but it’s unclear and some people don’t always get the right information so

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it’s gone to a good length on exactly how it only increases epic rarity to +100%

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:47 AM

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woven olive that sounds so broken

It’s more of a “win more” boon than a win condition

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iykwim

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:48 AM

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still sounds really good

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I could use it today was my first time even clearing elysium

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:49 AM

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If you get it before your 2 hermes it’s great

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after that it depends on your build for how many remaining boons you even have to look for with good rarity

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Since rarity value is so dependent on the boon tbh

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:50 AM

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I can't remember what I had I had so many earlier

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I know I had a hermes one too

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:50 AM

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oh yk

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:50 AM

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it like give me a shield thing when I dashed I think?

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:50 AM

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I might have some info that should be helpful for building then

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:50 AM

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woven olive it like give me a shield thing when I dashed I think?

Hyper Sprint and it’s one of the best Hermes boons ngl

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:51 AM

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yea that its how I beat the minotaur when he charged

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:51 AM

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Sturdy is really powerful but the main strength comes from the added movespeed it gives tbh

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since you can easily combo it with Rush Delivery (another Hermes boon) for massive damage

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:52 AM

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oh I had that one earlier too

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:52 AM

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Since Rush Delivery gives you bonus damage based on your bonus movespeed and hyper sprint is a +100% multi like

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At worst, with hyper sprint and a common rush delivery you’re getting +50% on all your damage for a while after dashing

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:53 AM

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the one I really liked too was the zues one that threw thunderbolts when I used my shield throw

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:54 AM

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was this using zeus’s aspect of the shield or just like zag/chaos shield

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:54 AM

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is chaos shield the one with the purple eye

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:54 AM

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yep

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:55 AM

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I lowkey don't think I had either of them when I discovered it

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because I didn't have the rail at the time

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:55 AM

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when you discovered thunder flourish from Zeus?

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checks out since you can’t have aspects before you have all the weapons

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:56 AM

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yea I just remember getting a zues boon for the first time and thought that one sounded good

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and then when I unlocked chaos shield I thought they would be really good together

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:56 AM

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It’s pretty solid on a few weapons

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I think in theory it should be fine on chaos shield I just haven’t used chaos in like 400 hours and can’t remember how the multi-special works with lightning bolts internal cooldowns

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:57 AM

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shield is the only weapon I've been using since I unlocked it lowkey

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:58 AM

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fair enough like

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I get it especially if you’re narrowing in on actually escaping for the first time

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:59 AM

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that and lowkey I didn't like how the other weapons felt

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besides varatha and the sword

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 5:59 AM

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oh?

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 5:59 AM

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the sword has no range which is mostly why I didn't like it

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and I can't remember why I switched off varatha

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:00 AM

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my gripes with the sword and spear are how narrow the dash-strikes are tbh

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:00 AM

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yesterday was my first time playing in months I lowkey rage quit this game before back when I got it in december

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:00 AM

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I get really annoyed trying to do consecutive dash-strikes

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:00 AM

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that might've been it now that you mention it

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:01 AM

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because fists is so long and rail just handles it for me and bow I can aim in the window for dash-strikes

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:01 AM

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woven olive that might've been it now that you mention it

That’s how I feel as a controller player at least idk about mouse if you’re using that

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:01 AM

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I use controller too

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today was my first time even using fists and I only used it for one run and went back to shield 😭

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:02 AM

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It took me significantly longer to get a sub10 run on sword than on shield, fists and rail combined from when I started like

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3 weeks back

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:02 AM

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what's sub10

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:02 AM

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Uh

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below 10 minutes

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:02 AM

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you beat a run in 10 minutes? 😭

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:03 AM

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Uhh

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yeah

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:03 AM

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I got no idea how you did that

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:03 AM

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I’m stilling getting a handle on this speedrunning bt here

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I’m trying to get sub10 all weapons and spear still escapes me

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:04 AM

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woven olive I got no idea how you did that

See I have the skill to consistently get like between 10 and 12 minutes on most weapons

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after that it’s a bit of rng

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like

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some of my runs have looked so good than I get abysmal styx rng

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or everything falls apart with a bunch of huge rooms in elysium

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:05 AM

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elysium is lowkey my op

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:05 AM

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a lot of my sword runs were dead as soon as I hit my first hammer thou

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:05 AM

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I always die there or on the skeleton hydra

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:05 AM

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it’s like really dependent on getting double edge because doubling your dash-strike damage is massive (who would’ve guessed)

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I’ve had the stars align a few times so I have like 3 8:xx times

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My eris is 8:01 which is just 💔

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almost sub8

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:06 AM

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sub 8 is actually insane I'm lowkey pretty sure mine almost took 2 hours

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:07 AM

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hold on thou

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cuz

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the way that time is measured for the category I would be in if I recorded my runs

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is Anyheat and it uses the in-game timer

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like 90% of the categories

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:07 AM

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I took so long on it I can't even see the recording of the beginning of my run 💀

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what is heat I keep hearing about it

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:07 AM

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so an 8 minute igt run is like a 20 minute irl time at least

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:08 AM

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woven olive sub 8 is actually insane I'm lowkey pretty sure mine almost took 2 hours

In game time?

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:08 AM

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woven olive what is heat I keep hearing about it

Once you escape you unlock this massive list of option difficulty modifiers

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:08 AM

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rotund sluice In game time?

uhh my steam clip was 3:39:48 long

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:08 AM

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Oop

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:08 AM

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but some of that was runs after I died to hades

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:08 AM

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Oh ok

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:08 AM

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which you can flip on and off and each adds heat to a run

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:09 AM

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woven olive but some of that was runs after I died to hades

IGT uses the in-game timer in the top right

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:09 AM

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I don't think I've ever even noticed there was an in game timer

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:09 AM

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so an anyheat run could be like 5:01 but the vid might be 21 minutes long

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because a lot of time is added in decision making

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or just like

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some rooms don’t count for the timer

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story rooms and inter-biome rooms

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:10 AM

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woven olive I don't think I've ever even noticed there was an in game timer

It’s in settings

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:10 AM

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cerberus definitely added a decent amount of time too because I did all of his rooms

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:10 AM

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plain river story rooms and inter-biome rooms

Any room where Than helps you out or Dad makes you sit around for 45 seconds

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:10 AM

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I was lowkey thinking I'd have to fight him

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:10 AM

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Out of choice?

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:10 AM

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yea

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I wanted the power ups and boons

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:11 AM

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Not usually worth it unless you need it

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5 sack is the bane of my existence

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:11 AM

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I was scared they were gonna make me fight him so I did all of them

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then he just moved

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:11 AM

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lol

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:11 AM

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Styx is the other area that can add a lot of time to a run if you get bad rng because the sack have a 52% chance to be in the second tunnel you choose to go down but like

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That 48% of the time you just have to spend extra time in styx

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😔

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and tiny vermin ahh

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If only the speedrun modpack existed for switch

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💔

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:12 AM

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my luck is usually super bad in games I'm not excited for that

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:12 AM

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Good luck bud

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Especially if you’re speedrunning, it’s not gonna be fun

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:12 AM

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that one run where I actually got to hades was the only one I got lucky

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:12 AM

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I mean

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It’s a little early to be speedrunning

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:13 AM

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True

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:13 AM

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How’d we get over to th-

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Nevermind it was me yapping about me

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I derailed

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:13 AM

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yea that isn't happening for a while 😭

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:13 AM

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I guess I meant speedrunning as in “wanting to go fast”

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Mb

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:13 AM

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oh we were talking about weapons

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:13 AM

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my friend told me I got to beat the game 8 times too if I want to get the ending

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:13 AM

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10

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:13 AM

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woven olive my friend told me I got to beat the game 8 times too if I want to get the ending

It’s 10

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:14 AM

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10 😭

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:14 AM

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It gets easier

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:14 AM

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escape 10 times for that but that’s just the credits

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there’s still more

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:14 AM

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That’s why heat exists

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:14 AM

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woven olive 10 😭

Honestly like

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Roguelikes it just eventually clicks

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That’s why heat exists

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:15 AM

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I used to be the biggest hater of roguelikes this is the only one I've actually enjoyed

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:15 AM

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Like you hardly struggle against Meg atp I assume? at least compared to hydra and heroes and Hades

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:15 AM

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meg is the easiest one for me

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:15 AM

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that’s because you figured it out

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:15 AM

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I struggle with the one that's not the murder sister

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:15 AM

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you’ve had practice

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:15 AM

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woven olive I struggle with the one that's not the murder sister

Alecto?

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:15 AM

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So then the beating Hades 10 times is usually like

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:15 AM

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idk I could lowkey barely even read her name

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:15 AM

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Tisiphone probably

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:16 AM

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yea I almost beat him on my first attempt I think I could do it

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:16 AM

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plain river Tisiphone probably

NOT the murder sister

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:16 AM

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I just need to actually get there

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:16 AM

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And not Meg

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:16 AM

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plain river So then the beating Hades 10 times is usually like

The 2 first times are usually the roughest

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:16 AM

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rotund sluice NOT the murder sister

But they said they couldn’t read it

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And Tisiphone is longer than Alecto

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thanthink

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:16 AM

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Is it too far fetched to call beating Hades akin to doing algebra for the first time?

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:17 AM

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whatever one isn't blue or green

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because meg is blue and murder is green

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:17 AM

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woven olive whatever one isn't blue or green

Alecto!

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:17 AM

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Green is Tis so it’d be Alecto yeah

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:17 AM

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I always die to alecto

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I think I beat her only once

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:17 AM

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Alecto is projectile spam nightmare so

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fair enough

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:18 AM

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yea I hate things like that I can only handle it in terraria 😭

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:18 AM

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rotund sluice Is it too far fetched to call beating Hades akin to doing algebra for the first ...

Confusing and difficult the first time, but as you do it a lot it just becomes a part of a bigger process. You also put stuff onto it to make getting to it harder and make the calculations harder when you’re doing more complex stuff.

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:18 AM

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Like in the grand scheme of things 10 wins is not that many for the avg Hades gamer I don’t think

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a lot stick around way past that for the epilogue and to get their bounties

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:19 AM

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this is my first roguelike besides soul knight 💀

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:19 AM

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a good number do the 100% lite

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:19 AM

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woven olive this is my first roguelike besides soul knight 💀

Wait other people play that game

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:19 AM

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Soul Knight my beloved

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:19 AM

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YOU PLAY TOO?

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The hell

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:19 AM

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I used to when I was in middle school me and my friends would play it together its been forever 😭

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:19 AM

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I haven’t in like 2 years but it’s on my phone yeah

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:19 AM

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First people I’ve met who play

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:20 AM

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I think its still on mine too

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:20 AM

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Same

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:20 AM

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Once I got a job I dropped like $30 bucks on it for the characters and so I could give the devs some money for their work

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:20 AM

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yea its my first game on my phone

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:20 AM

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Mains?

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:20 AM

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assassin main

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:20 AM

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I played a lot of a lot of characters mmm

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:20 AM

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I think that's the name

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:21 AM

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Yup

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:21 AM

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assassin is my goat

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:21 AM

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I played a lot of the Priest character ngl

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:21 AM

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I main Witch/Wizard

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:21 AM

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plain river I played a lot of the Priest character ngl

She’s my secondary and my coop main

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:21 AM

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I didn't have money because I was like 11-13 at the time so I was very limited on who I played 😭

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:21 AM

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The alchemist was also there for me

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:21 AM

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I’m f2p

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:22 AM

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I wanted to play alchemist but the hp was too low for me

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:22 AM

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woven olive I didn't have money because I was like 11-13 at the time so I was very limited o...

See I got it at around the same age and then got back into in in highschool

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because I couldn’t be bothered to pay attention in my math classes bc they were going through material at a snails pace

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:22 AM

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on god though

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:23 AM

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And I went “huh I have a job and I could have all these other characters”

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I can’t bring myself to actually pay for the skins though that just feels like a waste

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I look at them and go “wow they’re cool” and then I go “huh but do I really need it”

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Thank goodness for adhd medication I’d be broke otherwise 💔

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:24 AM

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I'm prety sure the only skin I had was that flame knight one

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:24 AM

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I have a few skins

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:24 AM

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I always wanted to buy the others though 😭

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:24 AM

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All f2p ones tho

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:24 AM

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I have a bunch from different events and spending the blue coins on some

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I have like retro versions of every character

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very fun

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:25 AM

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I used to play it only before school and then never again until the next day before school 💀

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:26 AM

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Memories

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:26 AM

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during break and lunch me and my friends would play pubg because fortnite wasn't on mobile yet 😭

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:26 AM

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There were a few seasons where the seasonal game mode really intrigued me and I used the hell out of every character on them

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to make broken combos

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:27 AM

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I lowkey just played it when I needed something to do I only ever made it to like floor 2

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:27 AM

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I unironically gamed the heck out of it

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:27 AM

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woven olive I lowkey just played it when I needed something to do I only ever made it to lik...

Wow skill issue

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:27 AM

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plain river I unironically gamed the heck out of it

Sameeee

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:27 AM

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it lowkey was I was so bad at it

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:27 AM

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lol

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:28 AM

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but back then I lowkey only played roblox and fortnite because I was confined to mobile games

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:28 AM

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I just wanted to make a bunch of builds work

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so I just kept throwing myself at it again and again

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:28 AM

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me with hades

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:28 AM

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Roguelike in a nutshell

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:28 AM

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idk about you but some of the weapon fusions were like

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astronomical rng to even see them ever

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:28 AM

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Barely ever got them

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:29 AM

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I’d be looking at the wiki and go “when on earth is this ever happening”

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:29 AM

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Should we continue this elsewhere?

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:29 AM

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there’s one for combining like all the lightsa-

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uh

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Hades weapons

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:29 AM

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plain river there’s one for combining like all the lightsa-

that….

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Hated it

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I never could find that hidden aspect!

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:29 AM

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you said you mainly used shield?

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:29 AM

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yea its my favorite

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:29 AM

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plain river you said you mainly used shield?

I really hope you mean him

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:29 AM

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yeah

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I do

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:30 AM

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Phew

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I hate the thing

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:30 AM

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woven olive yea its my favorite

and sword is a nope and spear

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what about the other 3

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:30 AM

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I wouldn't be opposed to using sword and spear

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I lowey didn't even bother with the rail

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:30 AM

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oh did I read them wrong

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:30 AM

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I used it in the testing room and never did a run with it

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:30 AM

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You should do one

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Try it out

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It’s my second least fav weapon, but some people love it

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:31 AM

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I can't rememer using the bow either tbh

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:31 AM

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bow is interesting

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It’s usually my main

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:31 AM

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plain river oh did I read them wrong

I used to like sword and spear until I got shield and I haven't used them since

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:31 AM

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plain river bow is interesting

You use the most vanilla bow too

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:32 AM

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But I haven’t really played it since I started doing sub10 for all other weps since it’s the one I started with a sub10 already

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:32 AM

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rotund sluice You use the most vanilla bow too

It’s discount Hera with less inputs tbf

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:32 AM

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I think I used it once I remember having homing arrows

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:32 AM

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It’s literally the zag aspect

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Vanilla

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:32 AM

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woven olive I think I used it once I remember having homing arrows

Chiron

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:32 AM

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Hera is like Beo they’re the bane of my existence because I have to hit the cast button while holding strike

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:32 AM

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Yeah I hate it

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:32 AM

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Sure I could remap

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or I could use a different aspect (or in beo’s case a different build)

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 6:33 AM

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plain river Sure I could remap

It’s such a bother tho

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:33 AM

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Charged Flight my beloved

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:33 AM

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rotund sluice It’s such a bother tho

Eh it wasn’t that that bad when I remapped cast and call when I was using pc

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But I picked up my switch and instantly reverted

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:34 AM

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I remember liking spear because it actually had a bit of range unlike sword

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:34 AM

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mhm

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:34 AM

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which is why I like shield too because I can throw it

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:34 AM

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I love spear in concept I just fumble around with it equally as much as I do with sword

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:34 AM

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I need to actually try using it again

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:34 AM

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woven olive which is why I like shield too because I can throw it

Oh you just reminded me

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I have a bunch of stupid clips from the charged flight run

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That build had no reason making it in 8:30 whatever

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all the boss fights look goofy because of it

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:36 AM

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woven olive which is why I like shield too because I can throw it

Bow and Rail technically have range

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:36 AM

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rail I didn't try because of the reloading and I have no idea why I stopped using bow

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:36 AM

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I couldn’t tell you the last time I actually used either rail or bow like a ranged weapon but they are in fact

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:36 AM

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I think I like having the option of both melee and range whenever I need it

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:36 AM

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ranged weapons

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allegedly

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:37 AM

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you can melee with a gun? 😭

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:37 AM

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Yes

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High level rail and bow effectively function as melee weapons

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They play in mid-low range

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I find spear is the only true ranged weapon ngl

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Uhh

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:38 AM

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I need to give spear another chance

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:38 AM

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I have one clip that I post too much for bow

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:38 AM

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and sword too

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:38 AM

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Idk if I have one for rail

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:39 AM

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plain river I have one clip that I post too much for bow

I use it for a number of things since it can be a good doorway openner for people who think bow is just plain bad, people who don’t see the value in dash-strikes and people who don’t really know that bow can be like

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pretty effectively run in melee

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:39 AM

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dash strike are my goat

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:40 AM

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Sure it’s all “bow good” but it does a few different points specifically

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:40 AM

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I might give bow another chance too

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mainly because I don't remember it

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:40 AM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1192630956448817193/2024010419473301-C7D8C4153CC9802713604F54C53304E0.mp4?ex=687aeba2&is=68799a22&hm=24965edd40ee08ee6419823be2b1596b05f85993d4352a469894bfe43fb9fb92&

▶ Play video

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Now hmm

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I wanna grab those clips off my switch

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:41 AM

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I think that clip reminded me of why I stopped

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I hated charging it

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:41 AM

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It’s like

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it’s not bad once you get into a rhythm w/ dash-striking

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You can always just pray for flurry but

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I dislike flurry

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:42 AM

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I hated it for bull rush too but I just get the one that speeds it up and its fine

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That + the ranged one

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:42 AM

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Dash-striking does make the bow like way safer

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Since it charges 50% faster

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:43 AM

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woven olive That + the ranged one

Charged Shot just straight up modifies the charge time too

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as well as making it so you don’t even need full charge for max damage

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You can spam them out at short range for all it cares

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:43 AM

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I didn’t even know that 😭

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:43 AM

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80 base damage at any point in the charge

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:43 AM

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I would just charge spot and then throw shield and repeat

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:44 AM

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plain river 80 base damage at any point in the charge

Nice change from 50 only at max charge

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:44 AM

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I also had a boon that increased wall damage so I used a poseideon thing and would shove them into a corner and melee them

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also the armor break one with charged shot was so helpful

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Its so hard for me later on because everything has armor and I usually never get a good armor breaker

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That’s why I die to the skeleton hydra

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:45 AM

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Mhm

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Armour shred is pretty sweet

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It’s good enough that at my skill level, breaching slash was unironically as good as double edge for pacing

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at least up to midway thru ely

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:46 AM

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It had like 400% armor break or something it was lowkey insane

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:46 AM

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Fists is really nice because Breaching Cross just removes armour from the game zagluv

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+900% damage to armour on dashstrikes

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:46 AM

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Might gotta try that out

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Wtf 😭

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I need to try that now

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:47 AM

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Yeah your dash strikes just go from dealing 25 -> 250 damage to armour

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without accounting for strike or other dash-strike bonuses

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Iirc this also applies to the dash-upper which makes the aspect of demeter just that much crazier

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:48 AM

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Which one’s demeter again

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:48 AM

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woven olive It had like 400% armor break or something it was lowkey insane

Breaching Rush is nice

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:48 AM

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Is that the ice one

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:48 AM

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Demeter fists is +1-5 extra specials depending on level

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every 12 strikes

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:48 AM

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my only knowledge of greek mythology is from poptropica 😭

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lowkey I might do that next run if I can get it

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:49 AM

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Oh I was talking about the aspect

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You were talking about the goddess

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Yeah for in-game purposes she’s the ice goddess

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:50 AM

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That makes more sense lowkey I was a little confused on what you meant my demeter fists

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I unlocked her for the first time today I didn’t even know she was in the game until then

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:51 AM

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yeah so

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that’s what I was getting at earlier

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about reaching the surface and something new

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Demeter only realises you exist when you reach the surface for the first time

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tizomg

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so you can only see her after

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That’s the spoiler I was getting at

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:51 AM

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That explains why I didn’t know she existed 💀

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 6:52 AM

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I wasn’t sure if you’d seen her yet

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:52 AM

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Yea I had no idea what you meant by the spoiler because I thought it could literally be anything

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Earlier I saw hades has two phases which I’m totally looking forward to

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 7:08 AM

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rotund sluice I really hope you mean him

Tell me this isn’t silly thou

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795659377755422742/1395663410443714641/ScreenRecording_07-18-2025_03-05-23_1.mov?ex=687b4457&is=6879f2d7&hm=8b50dcbafff0a9e714cfd3c8d7444e9e451d5512b284096300a0d0361f6ac3b1&

▶ Play video

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 7:09 AM

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It’s silly

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I still hate the shield

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 7:09 AM

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The rest are going to have to be cut together

plain river Jul 18, 2025, 7:10 AM

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rotund sluice I still hate the shield

There’s a reason why I was able to cut down my best time on shield be 2 full minutes with a lucky meme run

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tizomg

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It’s good but I hate using it

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If anybody else pilotted that bt

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it would’ve been sooo fast

drifting trout Jul 18, 2025, 1:11 PM

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plain river https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795659377755422742/1395663410443714641/Sc...

wtf is going on there

proper furnace Jul 18, 2025, 1:11 PM

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Charged flight hammer

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Using the 4th shield which has actual base dmg

drifting trout Jul 18, 2025, 1:12 PM

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riiiight beowulf

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don't have that one yet

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:11 PM

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I’m doing a run with the rail for the first time and this is lowkey goated

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I have curse of agony so each shot does 101 extra damage + impending doom which is 60% more doom damage

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and support fire for the arrows which I have 18 shots so that’s 18 arrows doing 12 damage each for 216 damage

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 6:46 PM

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Bro I was so close to beating hades

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I don’t even know what hit me

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If I had an extra death revive I could’ve done it

dull viper Jul 18, 2025, 7:00 PM

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woven olive I have curse of agony so each shot does 101 extra damage + impending doom which ...

try it with zeus attack 👀

woven olive Jul 18, 2025, 7:34 PM

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I thought of that I just did a bow run and got the zues one 😭

short sapphire Jul 18, 2025, 10:54 PM

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Can someone give me a good Lucifer build

valid dagger Jul 18, 2025, 11:12 PM

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short sapphire Can someone give me a good Lucifer build

You can build it like Eris. Start with Zeus and grab the attack then look for Tidal/Divine dash and some big % Special. Triple Bomb is your strongest hammer. More Zeus/Poseidon/Athena is always nice. Try to pick up a Call for iframes since you’ll need them, Dio/Zeus/Athena would be best.

short sapphire Jul 18, 2025, 11:18 PM

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Iframes ?

rotund sluice Jul 18, 2025, 11:20 PM

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short sapphire Iframes ?

Invincibility frames. All calls give you a brief period in which you are immune to damage.

short sapphire Jul 18, 2025, 11:32 PM

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Thx

upper hound Jul 19, 2025, 1:39 AM

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I just got max casts on a beowulf run I was wondering if how hard it would be to get it again on a repeat run

plain river Jul 19, 2025, 1:41 AM

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upper hound I just got max casts on a beowulf run I was wondering if how hard it would be to...

Are you trying to send an image rn

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It’ll need to be via an image link/embed

upper hound Jul 19, 2025, 1:42 AM

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plain river It’ll need to be via an image link/embed

thx ill note it down for the future

plain river Jul 19, 2025, 1:42 AM

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otherwise like you can just drop the #

upper hound Jul 19, 2025, 1:43 AM

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alr tysm

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but for now ill just edit the above message

plain river Jul 19, 2025, 1:43 AM

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upper hound I just got max casts on a beowulf run I was wondering if how hard it would be to...

Wdym by “max casts”

upper hound Jul 19, 2025, 1:43 AM

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7

plain river Jul 19, 2025, 1:43 AM

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there isn’t a cap

upper hound Jul 19, 2025, 1:43 AM

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oh really?

plain river Jul 19, 2025, 1:43 AM

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yeah

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You can just keep getting extra casts from wells

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And have a few extra from chaos

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and fully loaded but that’s really out of the way

upper hound Jul 19, 2025, 1:44 AM

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huh that helps

silver jewel Jul 19, 2025, 2:19 AM

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plain river Tell me this isn’t silly thou

you're just using the same strat as her with the spinning blades shadesmile
all is good in the (under)world

plain river Jul 19, 2025, 3:29 PM

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silver jewel you're just using the same strat as her with the spinning blades <:shadesmile:52...

❤️

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unironically like

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charged flight beo worked so much better than charged skewer guan-yu is

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I’ve been trying attempt after attempt and I keep getting around the 10-11 minute range just because I want to avoid using achilles for my spear sub10

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💔

sharp tendon Jul 20, 2025, 2:29 PM

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Any tips on getting bad call. Encounters are too short to proc greater call so should I run heat with extra foes or smth??

dull viper Jul 20, 2025, 2:31 PM

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sharp tendon Any tips on getting bad call. Encounters are too short to proc greater call so s...

bad call?

sharp tendon Jul 20, 2025, 2:32 PM

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the steam achievement for using a god's greater call against them in a Trial of the Gods

dull viper Jul 20, 2025, 2:33 PM

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iirc the amount of charge you gain scales better with the number of hits you do in comparison to damage, so use fist or railgun
and yeah i guess js3 cp2 dc2 will help

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(jury summons 3, calisthenics program 2, damage control 2)

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also there are boons that help you get more charge, don't remember their names though

sharp tendon Jul 20, 2025, 2:37 PM

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I only know the zeus/poseidon/artemis ones but I like zeus's most Ig

proper furnace Jul 20, 2025, 2:38 PM

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sharp tendon Any tips on getting bad call. Encounters are too short to proc greater call so s...

Pray you get the trial in elysium and keep letting the enemies revive

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Outside of that use stuff like athena's proud bearing and charon well's aether net to increase how much call you start with

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If you have enough hp you can also use asphodel magma to charge call

sharp tendon Jul 20, 2025, 2:40 PM

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Huh aight, guess I'll try those out