#h1-builds-and-combat
plain river
wary tiger
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1027412687799468042/...
How u do that bruh
Pls send a recording
Im so lost
😭💀💀💀
worn solar
potent tree
"Zoomers trying to do technical things" moment
potent tree
IIIII KNEW IT LOL
plain river
Are you on a pc or on mobile
plain river
Tap and hold on an image
wary tiger
Didnt work
wary tiger
Tap and hold on an image
Done
What next
What should i use then? No sword? So bow and arrow?
worn solar
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1164101586138710037/1248056169642332190/Screenshot_20240605_162922_Discord.jpg?ex=66624662&is=6660f4e2&hm=41fcd288b8d535cfde7fbf3f7c6131aa9db217f4fb45288899535c05fd947a19& guess which button you press
worn solar
What should i use then? No sword? So bow and arrow?
Use what you like
wary tiger
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1164101586138710037/1248056169642332190/S...
This?💀
worn solar
Gj
worn solar
Flurry 100%
wary tiger
So whats it do just hold?
Bruh annas may u please send me a vid of u soing the steps to unlock sending images lol
worn solar
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1164101586138710037/1248056169642332190/S...
You literally already did it
worn solar
Dm sticky bot then do the same thing
tight basin
copy media link
tight basin
then send the link here
wary tiger
Now i see why
And get it
Thats wsp
So there isent perms to send images
U gotta literally go outa ur way
To dm the bot
And copy mdeia link
To send it here
tight basin
yes
proper furnace
did you press copy message link
wary tiger
There
Where we go
Also who should i gift all my stuff to?
Ok so who i go to karen, zues or the evil dude forgot his name
proper furnace
who the hell is karen
wary tiger
The shop keeper
proper furnace
lmfao
proper furnace
also just try to gift everyone at least once
wary tiger
also just try to gift everyone at least once
This an acount i made 2022
So not sure who i gifted to already
And how many
proper furnace
do you have the codex
proper furnace
press C/minus depending on keyboard or controller
wary tiger
Controler
proper furnace
oh are you mid fight
proper furnace
pause the game and go to settings
or controls whatever it shows
or is this an early file
wary tiger
Im debating on where to go, shop keeper zues or
Is it bc im in the game already?
And not in lobby?
proper furnace
no it should let you open the codex
so my guess it's bound to a different button or you don't have it yet
proper furnace
Description of characters/lets you track who have you gifted to
Also what weapon is this
wary tiger
Also what weapon is this
Spear
jolly chasm
Achilles or just base spear
wary tiger
Base spear lol
Im struggling rn loaded into my 2022 saved
I have sword almost maxed
worn solar
Is it zag sword
wary tiger
So wait where should i go zues, shop keeper or the evil dude
wary tiger
Is it zag sword <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Not sure
Ill check after im finished or die
Lmfao
worn solar
Zeus ig and get his attack
jolly chasm
Evil dude?
worn solar
Zeus ig and get his attack
.
tight basin
pstatus spotted
worn solar
why do you take the worst pictures
wary tiger
Its weird beo
I took side pixture
And it did that
Wait zues gave me heavens vengeance thunder dash and eletric shot
worn solar
Not ideal get electric shot ig
worn solar
What options did poseidon give you on his first boon
wary tiger
Idk
tight basin
olympian favor spotted
wary tiger
I got tempest strike
Lol
Ok from here on pout
Out
Imma soam send inages
And ping u annas
So u tell me how sped i an
worn solar
Thats literally the worst thing you couldve taken from him is the thing
worn solar
I have a better idea
silent pasture
Best gun aspect?
worn solar
https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-build-guide just read the first section of this
wary tiger
https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-build-guide just read the first section...
So MUCH
READIN
worn solar
Best gun aspect?
Hestia or eris, pretty interchangeable
wary tiger
matter a fax
potent tree
Zoomer attention span 
worn solar
Oh yeah youre a zoomer
wary tiger
I quit game
Started new one
Whats a zooned lmfao
Zoomer
What keepsake should i run?
wary tiger
I mainly run myrnudon bracer
plain river
Zoomer attention span <:zaglol:725043931867512903>
Hey Zoomers aren’t that bad all the time
wary tiger
Hey Zoomers aren’t that bad all the time
Just me?
potent tree
I know, and I kid, I kid
plain river
Nah I’m bad 95% of the time
wary tiger
Why dont they allow image perms?
plain river
It’s just the 5% when I’m interested, and I’m an info sponge so I handle the rest fine
wary tiger
Wound tit be better since its builds
worn solar
What keepsake should i run?
Poseidon start is good on zag spear but tempest strike start isnt
plain river
Why dont they allow image perms?
You have to put the work in to get an image up compared to the avg bot that joins servers
worn solar
Why dont they allow image perms?
Cuz spam bots and stuff
wary tiger
You have to put the work in to get an image up compared to the avg bot that join...
Whats the work
plain river
Getting an image link and sending it instead of putting up a file
wary tiger
Whar keepsake should i run?
plain river
Where are you
plain river
it matters because I’m going to change my answer based on locarion
worn solar
Keepsake is weapon dependent
plain river
Yeah
worn solar
https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-build-guide just read the first section...
Read the thing
plain river
So you always start tartsrus and asphodel with a god that works well with your aspect
wary tiger
wary tiger
Read the thing <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
To much bruh 😭
I opened it
And saw so much informatiob
I closed it
is there a way to reset all the titan blood?
worn solar
No
plain river
Unan r u good to break down nem
worn solar
Unan r u good to break down nem
no they should read the thing
plain river
real
wary tiger
Should i just start a mee file
worn solar
No
plain river
No
worn solar
Theres literally no point
plain river
Blood is renewable
plain river
Eventually Achilles gives it to you
plain river
Imma keep using spear its so much fun
Rad
plain river
Yeah
worn solar
And get tidal dash
wary tiger
I use conch shell?
worn solar
Yes
plain river
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1248054641984405555/1248063613315448832...
Immediately to the right, swap it down to achilles
Also yeah you might want to just
Hold on to it for now
plain river
one at a time
wary tiger
Which do i start with preferably
plain river
There’s a guide pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies for 1-32 heat, but iirc
It’s just tight deadline 1
wary tiger
Bet
plain river
it gives you 9 minutes per biome, if you go over that you start taking 5 damage a second
wary tiger
Is it possible to finish world one under 9 mins lol???
plain river
Is it possible to finish world one under 9 mins lol???
I’ve sub10’ed the game so
worn solar
Yeah, pretty easily
wary tiger
Mhmm what should i do? Take the key or go to choas
plain river
Chaos
plain river
2 super valuable upgrades-
plain river
Nah take chaos
You can find keys later
Chaos is scarce and can be a really valuable boost
wary tiger
plain river
And not chaos?
Tbh I’m amazed you don’t have the green side
I wonder what the triggrr is for is
wary tiger
Tbh I’m amazed you don’t have the green side
Wym green side?
And also this is s saved file from 2022 lmfao
worn solar
Take the blue one
plain river
Abyssal Ambush is pretty sweet
wary tiger
Posiden, love girl or drunk god?
wary tiger
Take the blue one
I took green lol
plain river
have you taken a poseidon boon yet?
plain river
Hmm
plain river
I’m debating between telling you to take poseidon, or telling you to take dionysus because I know the keepsake will force poseidon in later if you take him
I like hangover and it works pretty decently on flurry jab spear but ~
I’m indecisive
Oh btw pause the game if you haven’
wary tiger
I’m debating between telling you to take poseidon, or telling you to take dionys...
Dioysus is drunk god no?
potent tree
Shackle! Shackle! What should I have for dinner? Don't you pull that "indecisive" stuff on me
plain river
yeah
wary tiger
I have it paused
plain river
Shackle! Shackle! What should I have for dinner? Don't you pull that "indecisive...
Make yourself some chicken wings
potent tree
Ooh we were planning on fried chicken anyway. Thanks! 🍗
plain river
Y’know what
potent tree
(Shackle's a genius)
plain river
Take dionysus, I’ll see if I can get a good hangover build going for you
Or a semblance of it
We’ll be taking poseidon the next time we see him, pending the other option
wary tiger
I got drunken strike🥲, drunken floruish and deunken dadh
plain river
is he an option?
wary tiger
Yea
plain river
what’s the other option
plain river
Vendor
worn solar
Eh take poseidon
plain river
We’ll either see poseidon there or after
wary tiger
252 coins
plain river
Keepsake forces it
plain river
yeah
wary tiger
Its wing dude
Arrow dude
And food
Hermis? I think and the green arrow dude
Is the orange wing no?
plain river
hermes is nice, aside from that Artemis isn’t great here
wary tiger
So wing dude i buy? Or ignore it
plain river
We’ll hope for a few specific boons to come up from him
wary tiger
And not spend coins
plain river
Take it now, no time like the present
wary tiger
So hermis?
plain river
Yeah
plain river
Oh that’s rough
wary tiger
Bad or good?
plain river
Bad or good?
Mid.
Rarity of greater haste and swift strike?
plain river
Hmm
Swift strike normally doesn’t do anything but since you have flurry jab you are actually sending out standing strikes
wary tiger
Sent it to dms copying message link really pissed me ofd lmdaoo
plain river
and common greater haste is a bit for rush delivery
wary tiger
Swift strike normally doesn’t do anything but since you have flurry jab you are ...
Im not spamming it
Lowkey
Im mostly dash striking
plain river
~ yeah but idk if you noticed but
wary tiger
Prob didnt
plain river
Flurry jab makes your dssh strikes auto send out a jab
plain river
That’s why it’s so good
plain river
Sweet
Which one did you end up taking?
greater haste is a mid option, it does open up rush delivery but the bonus movespeed you have is so low
wary tiger
Swift strike
plain river
It’s a low amount of damagr
wary tiger
I send image to dms
scarlet girder
okay squad need your help. my friend and i are quite competitive in beating each others times in games. We also had an argument about what weapon is best - which was heavily biased lol. I love the spear the most, and he beat my time with it, and then challenged me to beat his time but without using Flurry Attack (because he thinks thats the only good build on spear). I disagree. I wanna use the Dash Attack build but would love some pointers on what boons to go for etc, what heats I need to use so on so forth
plain river
okay squad need your help. my friend and i are quite competitive in beating each...
Flurry jab is actually the best hammer for dash striking
scarlet girder
I have the screenshot of his finished build but i cant post it here that i can see
plain river
and “dash strike build” isn’t really a thing because that’s kinda just the
plain river
I have the screenshot of his finished build but i cant post it here that i can s...
Send the image link
plain river
and “dash strike build” isn’t really a thing because that’s kinda just the
the default way to attack for most weapons tbh
tight basin
Serrated works for speed
plain river
What about the hammer that improves the actual dash strike?
Serrated point is flurry jab at home
tight basin
Less common bc yeah that lmao
scarlet girder
Ty thats what I was thinking of
plain river
It’s still good just not the same
tight basin
But also like
tight basin
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1171003514542104608/1179990198642278511...
Use a cast build lmao
scarlet girder
Serrated point is what i figured would be the best to build around given that i cannot use Flurry Jab to prove a silly point
plain river
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1171003514542104608/1179990198642278511...
Wth someone with an actually good build
tight basin
okay squad need your help. my friend and i are quite competitive in beating each...
Also what does he think the best weapon is
Just curious
scarlet girder
uhhhh, hang on let me look back
plain river
this build is actually far better than I would expect for “hey my friend says he has a good build”
tight basin
Bc spear kinda sucks in general but Achilles is pretty good and better than most aspects for speed
plain river
It’s actually excellent both hyper sprint and greater haste with rush delivery what on
tight basin
Technically 3rd best for speed but super hard
scarlet girder
"i would say that the spear is the worst, but its all relative as what hammers you get make a massive difference and there are some fore each weapon that are amazing
although the sheild is objecuivly the best by farrr"
this is where it all started
plain river
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1171003514542104608/1179990198642278511...
@proper furnace purple rush delivery with greater haste hyper sprint on “my friend said he has a good build” build lmfao
tight basin
Yeah he's not wrong unfortunately lmao but I wouldn't say spear is the worst
Shield has the best speed and heat records
proper furnace
<@676221149134323721> purple rush delivery with greater haste hyper sprint on “m...
Not wrong 
tight basin
Spear does have good speed and heat records tho
plain river
I know right
tight basin
Spear has 4:55 modded and a 64 modded clear
scarlet girder
plain river
What on earth is a “my friend said he has a good build” build doing with an actually good build.
I’m like way overreacting here
my meds may have worn off
scarlet girder
I also triggered him by sending him this and saying "this was with the worst weapon
tight basin
Arthur does suck lmao
plain river
Spear is definitely like top 4 weapons imo I wouldn’t put it above rail, bow or shield
achilles spear anyways
tight basin
Rail bow or shield*
scarlet girder
Arthur does suck lmao
it really does lol
plain river
I meant bow freudian slip
tight basin
it really does lol
I love how he had a correct point in saying spear is hammer reliant and isn't good bc of it and shield is the best but then thinks Arthur is good lmao
plain river
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1171003514542104608/1179990198642278511...
Hold on someone has speedpact
I have a feeling your friends been around these parts
tight basin
Or reddit
scarlet girder
He didnt mean Arthur was necessarily good, he was arguing sword was better than spear
and im stubborn
plain river
He’s wrong tbh
scarlet girder
i know
plain river
Reddit knows speedpact and thinks Arthur is good
And he’s using dark regen so likely reddit
And so you want to best his time with serrated point?
scarlet girder
Yis please, I would be greatly indebted
doesnt need to be serrated point, that was just what i figured would be most optimal for speed
vital night
I mean
plain river
The issue is his build is actually straight up just a really sweet spear build and idk if he’d appreciate you sending a screenshot with the same stuff
tight basin
What's his time
plain river
that’s a 12minute time no
vital night
Flurry jab Achilles is your best bet
plain river
That is his screenshot right?
vital night
What’s a weapon he thinks is bad
tight basin
I thought that was lil vin
plain river
Was the achilles run your screenshot or his
scarlet girder
The issue is his build is actually straight up just a really sweet spear build a...
Don't get me wrong i agree, its a really good spear build and I could beat his time pretty easy using the same things. but the challenge is not too
Achilles is his
plain river
ok, well first thing you’ll want to do is use the same pact
scarlet girder
mine was arthur, id have to boot game up to see my best spear but i think my best spear is around ~15min
plain river
We may as well get the easy changes out of the way before hoping into a run
You’ll want to swap your mirror around
tight basin
Someone link the Achilles guide
Start tidal and build towards hunting blades or lightning phalanx
Nuke Elysium and onwards
Have a good front half
plain river
lets get dark foresight on first
tight basin
Oh true
scarlet girder
forgive my ignorant question, but what is speedpact 
potent tree
It's a bespoke set of pacts seldom used by casual players: Forced Overtime 2 and Extreme Measures 2
scarlet girder
It's a bespoke set of pacts seldom used by casual players: Forced Overtime 2 and...
you knew what you were doing when you typed that out
plain river
they both make your game a bit quicker
scarlet girder
okay, do i need other pacts or just those?
tight basin
Lmao tbf most players don't use forced overtime 2 ever bc it's a pretty significant gameplay shift
potent tree
you knew what you were doing when you typed that out
Huh? Wha? 👼
tight basin
okay, do i need other pacts or just those?
Just em2 fo2
Faster lernie fight and faster enemy spawns
And better jolted if you end up using that
scarlet girder
okay cool. i knew about the faster lernie fight but wasnt aware of fo2
so my checklist so far is
Family Favourites
Dark Foresight
Em2 and Fo2
Posi tidal start
plain river
then you aim to either go zeus strike + athena cast-> lightning phalanx, or artemis strike + ares cast -> hunting blades
Either work
tight basin
Ice wine too but that's a tad sus
plain river
just whoever’s boons you see in tartarus and then you take a leepsake to force the other
You may want to run
do you have infernal soul on rn
tight basin
Doing ice wine means better mechanical skill at the actual spear lmao
plain river
stygian isn’t the best for either of these casts
(Mirror, 3 casts > regen cast for these cast builds)
scarlet girder
Wonderful, thank you very much fam, I will cross all my toes and fingers and get cracking
id have to check infernal soul
ive been playing 2 so i havent played 1 in while
but im ready to go back and beat this time
plain river
You may want to watch a speedrun or 2 to see what they do that you might not~
I’m no achilles expert so I’m not sure what the pros do differently
scarlet girder
(Mirror, 3 casts > regen cast for these cast builds)
I usually go 3 cast over regen mostly because i prefer the playstyle
inb4 im bad
tight basin
Have you seen sleepsouls speedrunning guide
plain river
I know speedrunning homework isn’t the most exciting thing in the world but
If you really want to beat his time you might as well take a gander beforehand
scarlet girder
cool, ill check it out
what keepsake should i start with? or am i forcing a boon in tart as well
tight basin
Lmao gottem
scarlet girder
hahaha tidal dash and serrated point already by room 3 PLEASE RNG KEEP GOING
tight basin
Just win
scarlet girder
Okay. that was pretty sloppy by the end xD
kept trying to hold A to sprint lmao
also my previous best spear time is 14:55
plain river
also my previous best spear time is 14:55
What is it now?
scarlet girder
heh, still that, that clear just now wasn't great by the end lol
but good start in right direction
scarlet girder
is a run pretty much doomed if you get those silly hades rooms thats 45sec minimum
nimble canyon
If you purge all of a god's boons can you take them back out of your pool of 4
sonic anvil
potent tree
is a run pretty much doomed if you get those silly hades rooms thats 45sec minim...
No. They pause the IGT timer, actually
scarlet girder
No. They pause the IGT timer, actually
oh sweet, thank you
wary tiger
@tight basin @worn solar
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1248054641984405555/1248156052873285653/IMG_1153.jpg?ex=6662a368&is=666151e8&hm=f67aeb35f7505545b52d920b593fb3aa2f930c583bc782fe184fd28e69744794& holy hell this build is stupid💀
Hades in 40 seconds and the bull and sheild dude in 22 seconds 😭😭😭
wary tiger
you should use high confidence
I should?
tight basin
yeah
i mean you still have 3 DDs in the end anyways lmao
but like
high confidence is free damage
faster tartarus
and aspho
plain river
tbf though
wary tiger
plain river
it is their second clear
tight basin
25% more damage on tdash goes kinda hard
plain river
swap thick skin
I told 'im not to use high confidence cuz the previous run he was not chill nearly as chill like that
tight basin
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eAOEli9KqJOVyPD7U-6D1o1yZx1tDMQWLDcMJr8G84E/edit?usp=sharing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bxwSsTPubI&pp=ygUPc2xlZXBzb3VsIGhhZGVz
also resources
plain river
but he is indeed that chill ig
plain river
yes
tight basin
yeah bc your concern is speed and damage, not survivability lmao
just dont die
also if you're going for speed you shouldn't have a problem with survivability
most of the time
wary tiger
Well im not going for speed ngl
Mainly just beating the game
Lol
Whats the bext heat i should do?
Never got sent the list
First i did tight deadline
wary tiger
oh i thought you were the other guy who was going for speed lmao
No lill
But more damage better no?
tight basin
yeah but if you're just going for clears do thick skin
there's no reason to use high confidence unless you want a faster run
plain river
tbh though it is just 1 kety
scarlet girder
its really hard to adjust to Hades increased attack speed. I just had the build I needed that was melting him but I keep f-ing my reactions up 
scarlet girder
i just had him at 12:10 with about 10% of phase 1 left
wary tiger
every time you die you get 2% more damage reduction
Worth turning on?
scarlet girder
still not the 12:09 i have to beat but getting closer
wary tiger
Or is it like minecraft
scarlet girder
literal skill issue now
wary tiger
caps at 80%
Is it for that specific run or in general
tight basin
every run as long as you have it on
tight basin
Worth turning on?
up to you
tight basin
not really
wary tiger
Lmfaoo
tight basin
it's only "cheating" if you use it and submit runs to the leaderboard
wary tiger
2
tight basin
but that's like an easy catch lmao
plain river
Or is it like minecraft
it's like minecraft but instead of not getting trophies you kinda shoot yourself in the foot for getting better at Hades
plain river
Is it cheatin lol
Tbh, it's a single player game, if you aren't submitting to leaderboards, it's only cheating if you think it's cheating.
I have too much pride to ever use it
wary tiger
I have too much pride to ever use it
Same lmfaoo
wary tiger
but that's like an easy catch lmao
In what order should i do the heat tho?
Just completed my second run
plain river
In what order should i do the heat tho?
I sent you a link earlier yeah?
I mean it's
that message right there should have
what you need
summer kiln
does charm work for boss?
does sold boom still come back in the offer list?
willow fossil
yes and yes
scarlet girder
new best time 14.21
still not there but closer
So, if i get a Hammer straight away, is there a way i can change the three options it gives by resetting over and over? or is it just going to offer the same 3
willow fossil
same 3
shackle might know something about rng manipulation, but thats beyond my paygrade
scarlet girder
so im better off just throwing the run away by dying?
willow fossil
if you dont want the hammers, i guess
plain river
So, if i get a Hammer straight away, is there a way i can change the three optio...
If you’re exclusively using the “give up” option you’re going to have an issue because you get the same seed
Since it’s a hammer first chamber you don’t have the option to rng manipulate it
The only way to change it is to die or just accept one of the hammers and roll with it
plain river
what's a good cast effect for Hera bow
Aphrodite
plain river
waht's a good Dionysus build
Hangover works well on any weapon/aspect, put drunken strike/special on the faster of the two, and aphrodite strike/special on the other. Then pom the hangover boon to high heavens
viscid sentinel
Hangover works well on any weapon/aspect, put drunken strike/special on the fast...
Aphrodite is good?
is it just for the high base damage
plain river
Aphrodite is good?
Yeah, as mentioned before, Hera fixes the rest of the problems
The speed of the casting time and the range
summer kiln
now its time for zag shield on heat 17
vital night
Cshot time
potent tree
still not there but closer
Are you pausing the game while you choose which door to open? Are you always taking friend rooms and midshop and Chaos?
long escarp
and minibosses especially in Styx
tardy idol
what are some good gods/hammers for the zeus shield?
vital night
what are some good gods/hammers for the zeus shield?
Zeus on special, explosive return, more Zeus boons like double strike, static discharge, Zeus/dio call, pressure points and hunters mark to scale everything up
potent tree
Don't forget Support Fire from Artemis 
tardy idol
i just unlocked Gilgamesh fists, is anything good/fun for them?
vital night
i just unlocked Gilgamesh fists, is anything good/fun for them?
Merciful end, tdash dash only
tender walrus
hey yall, i have little experience with rail, how is hestia supposed to be used?
just reload each shot?
tight basin
yeah pretty much reload every shot
base 150 bullet kinda good
use fiery presence on the mirror for free 75% damage boost
tender walrus
i had shadow presence cuz i was using charon
vital night
yeah fiery is just way more impactful for hestia
you want aphro attack, tidal dash, artemis special, battle range, hyper sprint, and rush delivery
tender walrus
what are your guys binds?
potent tree
You basically have to rebind Reload unless you're running a Steam Controller
tender walrus
i rebound it to rb
worn solar
what are your guys binds?
i have reload on Y because of hestia
tender walrus
i dont think rocket bomb was my best idea
vagrant crane
it was
worn solar
Rocket bomb is great
tender walrus
but my aoe
worn solar
Then get cluster and you win the game
tender walrus
yeah nevermind this run is kind of goated
also im on 149 coins at shop
what the fk
i used two rerolls on ares and didnt get doom on special
vagrant crane
why would you want that
tender walrus
im not sure this was before i understood how rocket bomb worked
oh right priv status
also i was thinking of base special
it would be nice for priv status
worn solar
Its usually better to just run family favorite
vagrant crane
dont have pstatus
tender walrus
why cant i share screenshots here
current hammer selection:
triple bomb
explosive fire
spread fire
i currently have rocket bomb
thoughts?
jolly chasm
triple
tender walrus
yeah i was leaning to that
jolly chasm
also Pstatus is bait
tight basin
bc all the status dashes kinda suck to use lmao
tender walrus
even tidal dash?
tight basin
and also it's only a 15% increase compared to family favorites
tender walrus
or w.e posiden is called
tight basin
even tidal dash?
doesnt naturally have a status
so it's a pain in the ass to get
or youmight not even get it
tender walrus
i know its not right off the bat, but athena and zues dash have it too
and if not, there is the special
why does lucky tooth randomly get locked?
there must be a pattern
vital night
and if not, there is the special
Just in general it’s unreliable to bank on getting 2 status effects when family favorites is always active
vital night
why does lucky tooth randomly get locked?
If you use it and unequip or burn the charge, you can’t use it again
vital night
Happens
I once started acorn in Tartarus from the previous run and didn’t notice until asphodel bc I got the god I wanted anyways
tender walrus
not the most op, but charon bow with ares on special and athena on attack
i never tried this before
damn its pretty strong
oh yeah flurry shot is a must
wow i pr'd with this build by 5 full mins lol
merciful end, dire misfortune, and impending doom with flurry shot and athena on attack
pr'd from 19 mins to 14 mins
spare mulch
whats the best charm thingy
inland schooner
Finished a run with the shield. What other weapon would be good (and easy) to give it a go with? I have about 2 hearts remaining.
willow fossil
whats the best charm thingy
?
willow fossil
a
honest trail
Finished a run with the shield. What other weapon would be good (and easy) to gi...
aspect of arthur sword
long escarp
Not really good or easy but ok
pliant raven
Not really good or easy but ok
Exactly lmao
inland schooner
Oh, wait, it will take forever to unlock. I was mainly asking for a good weapon recommended for a second escape.
viral garnet
Oh, wait, it will take forever to unlock. I was mainly asking for a good weapon ...
nemesis
aspect of arthur you can do much later, its fun but its flawed
maybe if you get epic attack speed from hermes + aphro attack then you can have fun at least abit
vagrant crane
its terrible
brisk adder
If you had a choice between flurry, point blank and perfect shot for bow, for first hammer, what's best to take? My personal preference so far is flurry, point blank and then perfect. Does it depend on the aspect itself?
lucid oar
Point blank and perfect shot are amazing second hammers
You ideally want twin or triple shot first
But flurry is okay at carrying you through Tartarus
vital night
flurry is fine, mostly a good thing with hera
worn solar
Flurry tech tho 
brisk adder
flurry is fine, mostly a good thing with hera
So for hera it would be flurry then the others but for the aspects, flurry would be third?
brisk adder
Point blank and perfect shot are amazing second hammers
This is what I normally aim for as my second hammer, first being twin or triple shot
For Hestia, which attack is best? Arty or Aphro?
vital night
So for hera it would be flurry then the others but for the aspects, flurry would...
Preference at that point
spare mulch
whats the best keepsake for the shield
plain river
whats the best keepsake for the shield
Depends on the aspect and build you’re aiming for on that aspect, as well as which biome you are in
Aspectless uses the same philosphy
summer kiln
Finally did complete clear with zag shield first time, with 18 heat and funny thing its also my best time 23m26s
tight basin
Zag shield good
scarlet girder
Does Extending Jab on spear apply to dash strike or strictly just an attack?
wooden elk
If I'm using Hestia!rail, does Delta Chamber hammer make each shot fire the empowered shot?
willow fossil
If I'm using Hestia!rail, does Delta Chamber hammer make each shot fire the empo...
No, you still have to manually reload
scarlet girder
Also how does the aiming work on Meg's companion? because no matter what I do it shoots in the complete other direction than what I want it too
willow fossil
It's iffy tbh, just kinda have to hope, pretty sure is 90 degree angle but weird at times
scarlet girder
fml
pro of current run. beat lernie sub 6 minutes
con of current run. messed up on lernie and lost 3 death defiances
summer kiln
does achiles raging rush also contain boon effect?
willow fossil
does achiles raging rush also contain boon effect?
what
summer kiln
like if i have lightning on my special
when using achiles spear, there is a retrive and rush
does rush also apply lightning?
willow fossil
yes
summer kiln
ah thanks
willow fossil
wait
willow fossil
Achilles bonus is just atk/cast
i believe hes asking about the rush itself
proper furnace
Ah
willow fossil
i actually dont remember if the rush does any dmg
proper furnace
Same
summer kiln
Achilles bonus is just atk/cast
yes the rush itself is it just physical dmg or boon also
proper furnace
Idk
summer kiln
like if i have deflect on special etc
willow fossil
i suppsoe you could try it, zeus is pretty trash for the special
proper furnace
I don't take boons on special
summer kiln
does rush also deflect?
willow fossil
dont remember
summer kiln
=/
plain river
Does Extending Jab on spear apply to dash strike or strictly just an attack?
Strictly standing strikes
pine halo
any hestia builds?
plain river
any hestia builds?
Pretty much just +% goddesses on strikes (typically aphrodite or artemis), the other one of those two on special.
Tidal dash very much handles the quick aoe that Hestia lacks
For hammer priorities you’re looking at like cluster > rocket > hazard > triple => ricochet > piercing => targetting system => explosive > spread > flurry = delta idk
hollow quiver
Can you remap the reload to a different button?
plain river
Can you remap the reload to a different button?
Yea, pause and head to controls
hollow quiver
Oh cool
pine halo
For hammer priorities you’re looking at like cluster > rocket > hazard > triple ...
am confused so is flurry the best?
plain river
am confused so is flurry the best?
no…
hollow quiver
am confused so is flurry the best?
No other way around
plain river
> means greater than
{left side} is greater than {right side}
{left side} > {right side}
pine halo
i ahve peircing atm
plain river
Cool
long escarp
For hammer priorities you’re looking at like cluster > rocket > hazard > triple ...
I’m taking rocket over cluster
Also probably taking ricochet or piercing over triple
jolly chasm
Cluster is 100% better on KB&M, but I would take rocket bomb over cluster on controller every time
plain river
I’m taking rocket over cluster
yeah I think so
clever mason
Cluster + rocket reminds me of doom 2 when you get the double shot gun and you just start melting demons at point blank.
plain river
Cluster + rocket reminds me of doom 2 when you get the double shot gun and you j...
~~I mean being a 400 base damage special will do that
it’s actually uniquely strong for that
clever mason
https://tenor.com/view/useless-broken-toystory-gif-1149110301696148469
Whatever my build was before I got cluster and rockets was instantly abandoned
long escarp
it’s actually uniquely strong for that
Twin shot rama dash strike power shot with shared suffering is 400 base damage
plain river
Twin shot rama dash strike power shot with shared suffering is 400 base damage <...
real but it's a special and can make use of special damage +%'s
long escarp
True
fringe prairie
i have the base aspect of zeus and the default aegis any builds that could get me past the bone hydra?
how was that h2 dicussion
plain river
i have the base aspect of zeus and the default aegis any builds that could get m...
Zeus is particularly safe for this, while also doing great damage
fringe prairie
i just hear that it do spinny attack and i like things that spin
(visually appealing to me)
plain river
Try using zeus’s keepsake (I’m assuming and hoping you have your olympian god keepsakes) to force zeus in on special on the aspect of xeus
fringe prairie
ah k
im currently using lv 2 old spiked collar
i have 5 hr in the game btw i got it this morning
plain river
im currently using lv 2 old spiked collar
You can start switching your keepsakes between biomes which a work order from the contractor.
fringe prairie
You can start switching your keepsakes between biomes which a work order from th...
kk
i used to use the dionysus one and then after tartarus enabling the spike for a revive
long escarp
i have the base aspect of zeus and the default aegis any builds that could get m...
Zeus special is best for Zeus shield. And any time you use lightning, you want jolted
fringe prairie
Zeus special is best for Zeus shield. And any time you use lightning, you want j...
k
plain river
i used to use the dionysus one and then after tartarus enabling the spike for a ...
I mean you can easily start with whatever and find success, it’s just the builds we’ll give you will typically follow a similiar pattern for consistent set up
fringe prairie
makes sense
plain river
Zeus shield does have a dionysus build, but zeus on zeus is a very consistent very functional build
fringe prairie
ah
i used to use a dionysus/artemis build for normal shield
before i got the ability to use the titans blood
plain river
oh uh
Bad news bears if you were consistently looking for splitting headache
The artemis + dionysus duo boon
fringe prairie
i dont think i have duo boons
plain river
It only gives a crit chance to things that already have a crit chance
fringe prairie
never seen one atleast
plain river
i dont think i have duo boons
Everyone does, you csn get them in the first run of a file, that’s kinda the whole foundation of fresh file runs
fringe prairie
oh idk why ive not seen any
plain river
oh idk why ive not seen any
you need a boon from a specific list of boons from each god before you can even see them
plain river
Like Merciful End, the Ares/Athena boon, requires you to have Ares strike or special and athena’s strike or special
fringe prairie
ohh
plain river
Most duos are less restrictive than that but they usually follow the pattern of 1 core boom from either god
fringe prairie
oh usually i have a mix of things
plain river
A core boon being strike/flourish/shot/dash
(Strike = attack, flourish = special, shot = cast)
fringe prairie
i usually prioritize flourish and shot
plain river
And usually their call as well
plain river
i usually prioritize flourish and shot
Dang
Most weapons start off with their strike for good reason
and most aspects unless they’re castpects don’t go out of their way for a cast
They’ll pick one up to fill the core and not interfere with their duo boons
When I say “fill a core”, it’s in reference to the fact that the game will always try to give you a core boon if any of those 4 core actions are open
so one of your options is always tied up by a core until they’re filled
filling a core means you can pick from 3 options of secondary boons and have better odds at rolling a duo/legendary
willow fossil
Not picking a core is the equivalent of ap1 
tight basin
Zeus special is best for Zeus shield. And any time you use lightning, you want j...
aphrodite special has comparable dps if you have explosive return lmao
zeus special is just more consistent since you dont need explosive return
and it's also flashier
plain river
and also zeus on zeus
tight basin
true
plain river
and flat damage soup
plain river
better call charging, better rush delivery
long escarp
aphrodite special has comparable dps if you have explosive return lmao
Do people run aphro for high heat?
tight basin
yes
plain river
yeah
tight basin
poshboy and probably mysterra beat 64 modded with aphro special
it's more consistent in especially modded bc you literally only need the special and the hammer
dont need jolted
long escarp
I see
tight basin
you just need to be cleaner with the explosive return procs
zeus^2 does want that too but you can get away with it less bc your main damage is jolted/flourish
but a base 50 aoe with a like 225% modifier goes kinda hard lmao
tight basin
Do people run aphro for high heat?
vid if you want to watch
also speaking of mysterra they just beat 60 heat modded beo with trippy flare lmfao
which also marks their 8/8 flares at 59/60
plain river
which also marks their 8/8 flares at 59/60
8/8 vanilla 64 heat when`
tight basin
playad's working on 6/6 modded 64 for all weps give him a bit
vital night
it's more consistent in especially modded bc you literally only need the special...
And first boon epic since the damage falls off a lot with rare or common
If no fbe then you probably want Zeus
Or reset for epic
tight basin
true
scarlet girder
Strictly standing strikes
Ty
brisk adder
How best to build Beowulf? I know Poseidon start for cast but anything else?
worn solar
How best to build Beowulf? I know Poseidon start for cast but anything else?
Artemis attack preferred or any other core from her that opens up mirage shot. Snow burst from demeter is good and she wont mess you up since you cant get her duo with poseidon on beo. Other than that its mostly chaos and rush delivery and cast boosts from well youre looking for. Hammer wise charged shot or sudden rush are good
brisk adder
Artemis attack preferred or any other core from her that opens up mirage shot. S...
Thank you!
Does it matter what level the aspect is?
I've only just unlocked
worn solar
The level doesnt matter too much
Most of your damage is from your cast, itll make single loads a lot worse tho
brisk adder
Okay cool, will keep that in mind. Thank you!
brisk adder
Does lightning phalanx work well with zagrail?
brisk adder
How best to build zag shield? Aphro attack?
brisk adder
Cshot aphro yeah
Interesting, why cshot, if you don't mind me asking, for zag shield? How would you play it like a bow?
vital night
Interesting, why cshot, if you don't mind me asking, for zag shield? How would y...
Easiest way to get damage out of the shield
It doesn’t scale with the perk so playing chaos and Zagshield are basically the same
Cshot pierces so you can line up enemies and stuff
It knocks them back slightly
brisk adder
Oh I get you, thanks for explanation!
dusty tiger
Does Shackle stack with Artemis’ dash strike?
vital night
Does Shackle stack with Artemis’ dash strike?
Yes
unreal saffron
boons that boost dash strike will boost the bow's powershot, correct?
worn solar
boons that boost dash strike will boost the bow's powershot, correct?
If youre dashing before charging it yes
quiet sleet
round umbra
How much damage do the pots do to redacted? are shards typically worth it going into that fight?
lucid oar
If you get a couple of them then you might get a surprise in the fight
And there isn’t much left to spend money on
round umbra
Destroying pots near red isn't really something I've ever done. Mostly I've been avoiding them/ clearing the far away ones.
Do you know what the base damage of them is?
Is it 30 to redacted as well?
round umbra
Weird that the pot damage to hades doesn't show as text
brisk adder
Easiest way to get damage out of the shield
This was so good, thanks for the advice!
tight basin
I imagine it’s also 30 to dad yeah
Enemies don't get affected by hs so 30 to dad
With a couple of shards you get funny numbers tho
plain river
With a couple of shards you get funny numbers tho
Funny that one of the few multiplicative things in hermes is the 5x multiplier
plain river
cause man do these feel bad to use
I mean you can do like smair and hangover but they won’t be as effective
What feels bad to use about them?
Is it possibly just sword being sword
hard steppe
just feels like i do no damage
plain river
That’s very… odd
Given those are tried and true methods for using sword for damage
You aren’t trying crit on anything other than Nemesis are you?
hard steppe
ive only ran crit on nemsis, i could dm you a pic of my run. Maybe i was just picking the wrong stuff
plain river
Perhaps
potent tree
Are you cycling Dash-Strike x2 into Special?
plain river
Mind you for crit nem it’s literally a single hammer that doubles your dps
hard steppe
Mind you for crit nem it’s literally a single hammer that doubles your dps
yeah, i didnt get it 
plain river
so without it you effectively have half the dps
hard steppe
Are you cycling Dash-Strike x2 into Special?
yep
plain river
that’s not just nem btw
Same thing for zag sword
and poseidon
but since they have less going on natively for their attack the special does come into focus
plain river
yep
Ok so
You’re right
You will be doing no damage when you take artemis strike, since you need chaos boons to supplement the additive when you don’t take aphrodite
Good hammers, swift strike pick is extremely questionable
plain river
ah, that makes sense then
Artemis is a trade off of your consistent damage for more crit chance
Attack speed
tight basin
uh what does swift strike do again
nothing if you're dash striking
plain river
it doesn’t apply to dash striking if you can imagine
tight basin
just feels like i do no damage
ME doing no damage doesnt make sense unless you dont have ddash lmao
plain river
Or don’t have ME
hard steppe
i wasnt rocking ME,
willow fossil
ME slander? Impossible
hard steppe
nothing if you're dash striking
but yeah, im not sure why i picked it
i forgor. But ight. i guess for crit im reliant on chaos to help with me picking artimes attack
plain river
i forgor. But ight. i guess for crit im reliant on chaos to help with me picking...
Or just
Take aphrodite strike
Either way you really really want chaos for damage
But artemis needs it so much more
hard steppe
Take aphrodite strike
okay i will xd
plain river
<a:arollingsob:1112262331297177650> okay i will xd
Just put artemis on special or something
You still want hunters mark and heart rend
chain crits and bonus crit damage against weakened targets
hard steppe
alrighty, ill give it another shot with aphrodite attack
plain river
Are you cycling Dash-Strike x2 into Special?
For context
That’s what they had been running
hard steppe
plain river
Ik I didn’t ask to steal it but I figured you would’ve sent it here if you knew you had to imbed it as an image link
hard steppe
its all good and yeah i wouldve sent it
plain river
and didn’t want to bog down the convo with an explaination of how to do that
vital night
any other builds for sword besides ME and crit?
tidal dash into crit
potent tree
It's certainly not a horrible set of boons by any means
hard steppe
tidal dash into crit
i run tidal dash on crit?
plain river
It's certainly not a *horrible* set of boons by any means
It’s just arte strike with not other additive
potent tree
Maybe too many random pommables, but eh
jolly chasm
You can run Tdash on just about anything
vital night
i run tidal dash on crit?
start tidal dash and then build towards the crit build
idk i like it
vital night
tbf that's gilga
potent tree
It’s just arte strike with not other additive
Oh oops mixed up Artemis and Aphrodite's attack and special. My excuse is that I'm in paaaain
jolly chasm
idk i like it
As an Eris Tdash start enjoyer, I feel you