#h1-builds-and-combat
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Most casts have some sort of auto aim, but if you aren't building entirely on cast their dmg doesn't matter
You only want them to inflict boiling blood which base cast already does a great job
Or utility like zeus/pos/athena
arte cast is kinda base cast +
it's not bad, but really nothing to write home about
I like it when I don't care about my cast
I just died again :/ at the first boss
Weak shield didn’t feel like the move tbh it was kinda just like no damage
Did you get a hammer?
No
Atk shield without at least pulv blow is uhhh
A bit eh
Ideally you want charged shot
This i what I meant with wasting time tho
Is on like the 20 or 30 keys batch of skills
I spent a good chunk of time and effort on a run that didn’t give me anything other than a little bit of darkness
Which wasn’t even enough to upgrade any skill
Early game darkness is a pain to anyone
Im not good enough at video games for this progression to be at a normal pace
Like I know it’s meant to be slow but im even slower
And I don’t want to be :/
For now what I can think of is try to rush getting keys for all the aspects (either pick them up mid run or trade for them at the lounge)
Once you unlock aspects zeus shield can start doing strong builds really quick
For mirror don't bother that much for now cuz as you've seen, barely any darkness to use
At least having 2 dds and second dash is a good compromise
I need to know what boons to go for
Some of these feel so useless on some weapons and really good on others
if you want to delve deep into theorycrafting and the likes, there are some guides pinned
Yo!!!! There’s a gun?!?!?
I like how everyone got the same reaction to exagryph x)
It’s like bird
Bird gun
This feels American
Bald eagle shaped gun
8 keys tho?
Damn they taxin
not me(because i watched a gameplay video of it a couple years ago)
mine was "hey its that thing, how do i get the damage effect from bombing myself"
I like the fact that your first instinct when getting the rail was to apply the grenade launcher directly to zag's forehead
good thinking champ 
now that I think about it, I don't remember any dialogue about the gameplay quirks of aspects, but I feel like someone in game should have pointed out how weird it is for eris rail to ask you to bomb yourself
i saw gameplay of eris a couple years ago, remembered it, and killed myself with hazard bomb
what cast should i go for if im doing poseidon sword
Crush shot or phalanx if you don't want the ultra close range
And don't mind that missing means your casts go flying
thanks
merciful end or explosive launcher + charged skewer
Idk what that means
Those are hammer upgrades right?
What about the boons?
Nvm I’m dumb and new
if you get explosive launcher aphro works pretty well
ME is pretty common build which is named after ares and athena duo "Merciful End"
the duo makes it so your doom curse on enemies is instant
it's pretty common on fists where u take ares attk, athena special and dash then ME and just attack and dash into enemies
Impending doom also is pretty big dmg bonus
dash can also come before the duo (someone delet above me)
Oh alr thank you
its notable though that ME is a little wonky on spear (it still works and can still be strong but is also more awkward to use)
perfectly fine on fists/sword tho
The downside to ME is if you don't get me to spawn it's just awful
I'd legit say another downside is that it makes the game too easy if you do get it
at least if you're not into hard optimisation
maybe it's fun to try to push it even further beyond
but if you just want to get the win, GG you're done, start smacking your keyboard and it's a formality
thats just general low heat
idk, at my level I clearly see the diff on 32 heat between ME and not ME, and not ME is usually more fun 🤷♂️
but it's all subjective ofc
So... I learned this the painful way* today 
#h1-victory-boasting message
I cant believe Im gettin to 900 hours on hades and I didnt knew that...
Tbf blown kiss doesn't show that much
Also it can still work assuming you don't have flurry shot
As you can undershoot (still janky tho)
If you have flurry, tough luck
dont force it
not fun is not fun and chiron isnt worth getting over not enjoying it for
how are you supposed to build Chaos Shield?
everybody seems to love it and put it on top of viability tier lists, and i have zero idea why
what am i missing
Aphro Attack + Artemis Special on chiron bow is amazing - and it is my main Bow build, aiming for Heart Rend
Chaos Shield used to be pretty good during early access, supposedly. Now, not so much. Can build it like a weaker Zagshield
The question is, what are they seeing
it's viable because it's a shield, not because the gimmick is good
shield is just kinda busted lmao
please never say that again (comedic intent)
good
idk man i just don't feel comfortable playing it
Even the Zeus Shield - obviously the best one - feels too slow (for Tight Deadline)
I'm more of a Hestia-Chiron-Poseidon enjoyer
the aspects that just one shot or deal massive damage from range
btw Aspect of Poseidon is hella underrated
Massive dmg>chiron
Fr, but it's hard to get going sometimes tho./
you just need true shot and exit wounds
Eh, but I usually don't like taking those, u rite tho.
but true shot is the cast boon, isn't it?
Is certainly a cast boon
i can't think of a better cast boon
Flood shot?
i take it on everything
Crush Shot
^
Phalanx/flood/electric are more generally useful
close range tho 😦
If you aren't building cast more dmg doesn't really matter
And if you focus on cast builds also add hunting blades
You never know where electric gonna end up tho? Doesn’t that kinda slow down when you have to wait a bit?
As a build maybe, if you only need the AoE doesn't matter
It can scale hard specially with jolted, as always
And? You have a sword u're supposed to be close ranged.
Bow named hera:
i don't get it
phalanx is slow af and thunder doesn't do much dmg once you get to Elysium
can't say i've tried flood shot though
true shot is fast, can crit, almost always backstabs, and is homing
Phalanx deflect is nice, big hitbox and can get vetter with zeus duo
phalanx is only slow for half a second at start
Casts don't backstab
after that it starts zooming
the main issue of phalanx is going into the nether if you miss your target
Electric falls off on its own yeah, jolted makes up for it
not to the extent of true shot
you rarely need the homing of true shot
Why are you playing like a sniper dostance away
i'm used to hestia and chiron
so i play poseidon like them

then you're playing poseidon "wrong" 
i only go in to special, then dash away
Hestia plays melee range pretty well lmao
might as well play achilles
Tidal dash or clockets
i can't remember what "clockets" is
Isn’t hestia also kinda melee?
also having to use your dash to use special on poseidon sounds risky
Use it to finish off enemies
The ideal is that your casts just one shot enemies
mm-hmm
And true shot crits won't help that if rng hates you
That's the other point of phalanx/crush sjot
Consistent high dmg
phalanx straight up kills?
They also have AoE
Is like 3rd highest dmg pretty sure
one sec
phalanx deals dummy damage
Phalanx specially if you get the zeus duo
I think even a common lvl1 is 100 ? Or 90 ?
Then you have better electric shot
If you get Demeter cast, mirage shot and the dem boon that gives extra damage, when the enemy reaches 10 freeze (i don’t remember the name) along with the boon that makes your cast freeze enemies, how quick do you load up the aid? Like one max aid every 5 seconds?
got dynoed, RIP 
ok blocking the simplest of swears is rough 😦
it is what it is
ye
is not swearing that hard
well i need to get used to it
swear swearing off
I feel ya @icy nacelle it's rough out here.
what's the name of that unusable diony cast again?
ok yes that, i assume that's the highest
Yup
The difficulty of keeping peace, often results in more anger
Crush shot second
Nah pos is somewhat low
Indeed.
On beo is broken cuz mirage bug
On the rest is useful to combine with breaking wave
Styx begone
i'd rather just build around tidal dash/pos call
Oh yeah I agree lol
Flood shot is for if your weapon really doesn't want tidal
Which is rare
also why do people like hera so much over aspect of poseidon/beowulf
Burst dmg
i feel like those two just outclass hera
Poseidon nah
Beo they are basically tied
Both had wrs at some point
Main difference would be high heat
poseidon also has a ton of cast dmg increase tho
Because the dmg potential is insane
Where hera falls off a cliff
what is it, like a 70%?
Even with flurry shot you can't make up how quick you release your casts with hera or beo
Also 50%
Wait not flurry shot
Flurry cast
still, it's a lot
maybe i should use beowulf more
i just have no idea how to build it
because unlike true shot, hunter's flare SUCKS
Reason for mirage is that is bugged
oh you mentioned a bug
what is it
wtf
Is a straight up double dmg
Indeed
AND it drops your casts into ground to be instantly recollected
Is even more funny
Trippy flare only crits x2 dmg for whatever reason buuuut
Poms give double of what is shown
still, it requires dionysus
First pom is a +120 dmg increase
i ain't touching dionysus boons with a ten fo-
EXCUSE ME?!
The reason for not being better is that you need to use stygian soul
So on top of getting the pre requisites for mirage, you want extra casts from chaos
But is a super fun thing if you get it going
mmm
that's funny but i'm still not touching a dionysus build with a 10-foot pole
too many requirements
Fair
But yeah for beo just go flood
Or you can go passion flare + snow burst for solid dmg
Also a good use of priv status too
i swear, the only good dionysus boon is Strong Drink
Hangover is ok
Only need the boon + poms
Call is pretty good
Just don't get more than 1 source of hangover
i don't like close ranged stuff that forces me to stay there
Premium vintage is nice
ok true
Heart + random pom with the upgrade
why bother
Slicing shot alone is bad
Hunting blades is the duo yeah
is it just crystal clarity but ares?
Homes in on enemies
Basically but much better than beams assuming infernal soul
Achilles speedruns use blades regularly
stygian soul + beams is hella underrated tho 😄
Stygian soul are a pain by default
I may get the duo + glare at least but if rng says no to at least 1 extra cast

i mean, on cast builds infernal soul is obviously better
Oh yeah speaking of stygian
yes that includes crystal clarity
Hermes legendary when using stygian soul is also bugged
but stygian soul crystal clarity is still nice
Buffs any dmg that is from zag
Calls/dash/flat dmg stuff like zeus-dio boons
And your normal attacks and what not
that sounds insane but probably not that good in practice
since you need to unlock hermes legendary in the first place
But no ways to escale it
Plume gaming
Also rarer to get if you aren't using legacy
ok but you need 3 hermes boons for that
1% vase chance moment
That's 2 books
...wdym
the legendary itself is the 3rd
Hermes has lower chances for rarity
I was comparing them
Bad news is basically hyper delivery
3% for epics, legendary is 1%
i do not remember what bad news is
The legendary I was talking about 
i've only gotten cast-related hermes legendaries before
actually nvm i got every boon at least once
He has 2 legendaries depending on your mirror
Average tbh.
including the flares
ye ik
i just don't remember the names
Stygian also has better odds for hermes than infernal
Cuz you can't get flurry cast
That's actually insane to me considering how many good passives Dio has.
But Ig u're more of an active guy/
ye i basically spam artemis on everything
Especially with the nectar upgrade.
i'm probably one of the only players out there who actually enjoys artemis's aid
unlessi'm on hestia
In this server maybe
Artemis/aphro are really liked for the greater call nuke in other places
nah i just use the regular call
Wuh
Artemis aid is one of the only ones you want to use greater calls lmao
or non-Hestia rail
Cuz otherwise is basically just true shot on a timer
Exactly.
oh i think this is another Olympian Favor moment
because common Artemis Aid does suck
but Rare+ Artemis Aid is quite good in dmg imo
anyway, this + generic special core boon + support fire fills up the god gauge really quickly
so i just spam click call with my ring finger while playing
if you're already playing zeus shield, maybe go zeus call as well
better for single use
Just checked, epic is 120
10 higher than epic crush shot 
call doesn't care about rarity
at all
20 damage for each arrow is not significant
maybe athena and poseidon call care about rarity
I think this is more on how you play at far range tbh
pos call definitely does
yeah i play every weapon from range lmao
i have 0 idea how to deal with armored enemies in close range
feels impossible
Funny enough we have the joke that every weapon is a melee weapon 
the only range weapon is hestia
Most of the time is just have the dmg to burst down their armor
Or learn patterns to dash through attacks
Even then hestia uses tidal dash pretty often
chiron crying in the corner
hestia uses clockets. It's the meleeiest weapon
Chiron is crying for other reasons 
not if you're a hazard bomb enjoyer
nah chiron gets more backstabs in spear range
oh yeah speaking of the Rail
Hazard Bomb, My Beloved.
backstab only mean something if you have concentrated volley + multiplier speical
maybe heart rend build
bruh what
+75% global dmg pretty good
what game you playing
Yeah, I was confused until I realised how bad my playstyle is with Hestia.
Eris is like the easiest rail to play
or i'm playing it wrong
Out of curiosity
def playing it wrong lol
^
What atk boon did you use
wdym
Artemis/Aphro/Poseidon
Lmao
whut
oh my
but why
Pos is much etter on Zag Rail tho
Rail atk has 10 base dmg
whut
with Rupture
whut

Any % boon will suck on it
I usually play with hypermobility and combos which doesn't work with a weapon that focuses aim, patience and strategy.
we have a super soaker enjoyer
but hestia is the best with hypermobility
Just force zeus atk and is already way better
???
hey, we're all supersoaker enjoyers. Well except jazz maybe because they're too tryhard lol
you dash-attack-reload-dash-attack-reload
In what world? You have to aim, you know that rii?
Auto aim moment
aim assist 
Ahhhhh, true, but my mouse is broken so I don't have the rhythm, still Hestia's nowhere near the best for hypermobility.
what is, then?
Especially with Hazrd Bomb.
I tried it just nerfed my aim lol.
don't use Hazard Bomb lmao
Eris.
Hypermobility will always be good if you have rush delivery 
Stack a million ichors
wrong. Always use hazard bomb
damage goes brr
well ok but not without aim assist
But big dmg. 
plus is Targeting System + Hazard Bomb bugged?
Hestia good thing is that basically any hammer works with it
speaking of
Eris you just clockes or delta basically
Delta Chamber?
even that is still good, believe it or nott
hell, let's it increase damage from chaos too
It doesn't?
you want otther hammers, mostly
Delta and spread are like the only ones
Crazy, how?
not that I know of
Delta at least offers iframes on dash strikes
yes thatt
you can reload with delta chamber hestia
(which I still don't know if they work with hestia reload shot tbh)
wait... it reloads for u?
you have to manually reload
no, you can still reload yourself
as usual
ah
Delta on hestia doesn't disable the manual reload like usual
other rail aspect remove the opttion to reload with delta chamber
that'd be too awesome
not hestia
delta and spread are basically nothing on hestia
but nothing is not a negative so 🤷♂️
What HS in this context
heightened security
spread fire
Spread fire
Oh, thought u meant HC
hazard bomb deal 1% damage to you
ye Spread Fire is terrible
wrong
Is good on zag rail
spread fire is terrible except on zag rail
how
Spread Fire zag rail is the old speedrun meta
zag rail spread fire is amazing
On other aspects it's goodge.
wot
Extra bullets from zag rail
i do!
armored ones can
.
anyway, i cannot believe i'm asking this with 200+ hours under my belt but
how tf do you play Eris Rail
my sibling in zeus I swear with spread fire DPS even armor won't save them
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special on yourself, big damage, win ez
Take zeus attack, static discharge and pom the later
Also grab tidal dash
It goes stupid with eris buff
Rail is just fists with bigger range, Bow is just spear with bigger range (and more awk)
get clockets if you can
We all know the best melee weapon, the rail gun, forged in the depths of hell (America) it can shoot almost infinite distance, yet, it’s most effective if you stand right in front of it
wear blindfold and press spacebar
For hammers you want rocket bomb and cluster, cope with triple
??? + rocket bomb (i forgot)
Cluster
Grab rocket first if both show up
Also on mirror swap to fiery presence if you haven't already
clockets for speed, delta chamber for heat
Backstabs on rail atk are lmao
U can near miss and still absorb Eris special rii?
And special can't backstab
but "undamaged foe" on rail is also lmao
isn't it?
Is for the special
Depends on aspect.
the dash oneshot the witch with fiery
Fiery doesn't work on dash
oh man
Is only atk/special
it makes a shotgun sound when you fire it
Hestia is a weapon, melee or ranged depends on your imagination
True.
and when reloading it
(unless is chamber 1, where it applies to anything for whatever reason)
Indeed.
hold on
clockets on Eris, you guys said
how do you absorb your own special
with rocket
Hug the enemy and shoot
the rocket explodes
how fast is that compared to the unhammered special?
A lot faster
Zag likes to show his love, even if it comes in form of a shot-grenade-gun
Cuz you don't have to wait for the arc of normal special
ye that's why i said Eris sucks in the first place
Also rocket + fiery + eris one shots pretty much anything in tart
So that's funny
but hestia + high conf + fiery already does that
without any hammer or boons
Fair
Eris rocket has aoe
Good thing that all rails are great
But yeah hestia is very good at Tartarus
wait a second
Also how
do yyou guys play Eris Rail without Aim Assist?
^
Aim assist is recommended yeah
on kbm, you just turn off aim and solely rely on aim assist
doesn't matter if you just play it like a melee weapon
I uise precision gaming tho.
you shoot special at a place, a Splitter shoots a big orb into the same place, you get hit for like 30-50 dmg
or you dash away and lose the special
special animation is so long too and locks you into place, unlike reloading
Just dash through the orb honestly
ye but then you miss the special
The AoE is pretty big
Then that comes with practice
buff is optional, but keeping it up all the time is prefered
Keeping eris buff online is important basically
without buff it's worse Zag Rail anyway
that's why you need this
Also are you in hell mode by chance
no
No way a splitting witch is doing that much dmg without triggering the shield
maybe you can try aim it to where you try to push it with tidal dash
aiming it directly at the enemies does not always work
Yes.
Coldest take I've seen
you guys mentioned tdash so many times that i'm starting to feel like it is
like i LOVE tidal dash
Tidal dash is best for offense
Divine Dash is really, really good but people ride it way too hard.
Divine ofc will be better for defense
hunter dash for the bow enjoyer
Both also work in pretty much anything
especially rama
Not even tbh, the knockback defends u as well as dd would.
Mainly referring to projectiles
Fair.
It’s for those witches in elysium
I use those to farm NM anyway.
Some of their own medicine
Other dashes like hunter have their place like nora mentioned
and Asphodel
Zeus can be a fun gimmick with gilga
Asphodel isn’t that bad, but in Ely you just one shot them
dem doesn't have a dash
Divine Addiction is a real problem because u end up being dependent on it.
Other dashes are good for other reasons it's good to experiment.
I've selected Hunter's Dash exactly once before
and that was back when i was maining Zeus Shield 

The only time I use it, is bc I just love the way it looks
Tidal is as good 
If you dash strike yeah
the only aspect that prefer hunter dash is rama
but i thought you couldn't dash strike if you reload with hestia
the build in aoe of rama is just nut
I love rama
yes actually
Not sure if my fav aspect is rama or hestia
Rail dash strike doesn't have any difference visually
So kinda understandable to think that
rama + zeus special + just stand in place and keep pressing special 
Special only rama is unarguably...
that's budget eris lmao
no need to reload 
delta chamber eris?
(except lucifer rail which outright can't dash strike lmao)
So it can't get hunter dash or chaos lunge boons
anyway i still don't like hunter's dash (though i kinda wanna try it out now that i know hestia can dash strike)
because of the vermin rooms in Styx
not having Tidal/Divine Dash in a vermin-filled room is 
The dash argument always ends up coming back to divine and tidal lmao
The thing with hunter is that hestia already has pretty good single target dmg
Not like rama where shared suffering is a thing
meh i already have 17 minutes with just Sisyphus keepsake Hestia
that's only one minute shorter
i mean, you can attack the enemy that you specialed
main problem of rama is the slow-ass attack animation
Didn't explain myself
I mean rama can benefit more cuz you already have AoE dmg
wait i can say ass but not simpler swear wordds?
Hunter dash hestia doesn't have that luxury unless you run into clockets
tf
Explosive Fire 
saying the worst one is funnier tho
Lmao you got me
ignoring Styx vermin, Hestia mows through everything so fast that you don't need AoE
just dash-attack-reload-dash-attack-reload and you win
Most of my build path comes through speedrunning
wait a second
Hestia is so sad if you don't have at minimum breaking wave for styx
i just realized
how do cl and ockets interact with each other in the first place?
i've never taken them together
Shoot five rockets shotgun style
close range?
ok cool
Also on an unintended interaction
i thought they stoppedd at close range
Rocket bomb deletes the -30% dmg from cluster
So each rocket does the full 80 base dmg
ofc it does
you can theoretically use the anvil to get 3 hammer for the ultimate hazard clockets
instaphase everything
doesn't that hurt you too, all 5 of them?
you can't speedrun with that 😭
You can't get hazard with either rockets or cluster
oh yeah, that's a modded run
Taking any of those deletes hazard from the pool
oh well
At most what you could gain would be targetting clockets
But that means taking anvil in first place lmao
If you aim to an enemy they get the targetting debuff
Also targetting is different from other global dmg buffs (which doesn't matter that much but is funny)
As the text specifically says "enemy takes more dmg" it also buffs things like summons or traps
Where something like eris buff doesn't
ddo you guys count keepsakes as boons?
just play it like regular rail
i think they have exactly 1 hp
but the vermin are too fast for regular rail if you don't have (unironically) explosive fire
not really
plus you run out of bullets before you can kill all vermin
the reload lasts like half a second i think
I was gonna ask for "top 5 boons in general" but then i didn't want to see Evergreen acorn on top of everyone's lists lmao
Lmao
seriously though
What are you guys' top 5 boons in general?
like, the boons that you can never go wrong with
do we consider duo boons
Zeus call, tidal and divine, smair, greatest reflex
smair?
and while considering duo ,legendary or any 2nd tier boons we assume we have the prereq boons as well
yes
Smoldering air, aphro-zeus
i know how good that can be, but top 5?
interesting
tho smair with aphro call is SO funny
Smair with most calls is just really good
Zeus/dio top examples athena if you like really want defense
except Artemis Call, ironically
why do people like Zeus/Dio call so much
Dps go brrrr
i find both very inconsistent
Zeus call specially if you find any other zeus boon
i prefer pos call for close-range call
Dio call scales off really well with poms
My first 32 heat with sword was a phalanx shot bud carried by smair zeus call lmao
Got double strike + splitting bolt + purple rd
which sword
Pos sword ofc
I could've probably won anyways without smair but the build just appeared itself
Even with a call like zeus smair provides some extra safety
Due to iframes on activation
i currently only have 32 heat runs on hestia and chiron
I’m the anti-meta so take this with a grain of salt but:
Aphro Call
Pressure Points
Strong Drink
The Dio Nectar one
Rush Delivery
all of those besides Rush Delivery are in my top 10-12
Can't really go wrong with those either
mm-hmm
I was thinking more on the "can win with just those" on my side
Niiiiice
And tbh I don't mind most boons thanks to underworld customs lmao
What’re y’all’s favourite combo of boons tho, cuz that makes a big difference.
A million zeus boons + rod
True.
i don't takke Dark Foresight so i don't like Underworld Customs
I take DF and I still hate UC
UC is chill
Until ap/ri comes into play
The it'll screw you up every once in a while
anyway, my top 5 are, in order:
#1: Greatest Reflex
#2: Divine Dash
#3: Crystal Clarity
#4: Sure Footing
#5: Strong Drink
Honorable Mentions: Tidal Dash and True Shot
Ngl, Sure Footing needs to be in my honourable mentions cuz it goes so hard.
Sure Footing is SO good
I'm sure it may have saved me once or twice on heightened sense but is an aight boon
all of my 32 heat runs have Sure Footing in them
funnily enough, none of them have Greatest Reflex or Divine Dash
ugh i gotta attempt a Tidal Dash-only run some time
actually nvm Tidal Dash is bad against bosses
Still working on that tidal dash build you gave me the idea for
Dash only speedruns are a thing
Wanna guess which dash is used
Tidal or divine probably
i've only seen Zeus Dash speedruns
Tidal is the meta yeah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2FPOIn1cwY&ab_channel=Haelian here is one of them
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Look at the clear time
meh, that's average Shield clear time 
:boulyai:
what

man, i was doing a 13 heat run on Zeus Shield once
i was stacked up on Zeus and Poseidon boons
i saw a 50 heat zeus dash only run i think it was done by and linked in the guide lniekd in pins right
i broke my controller's Y button (assigned to Specials) during ExM Champions fight
Damn
i had to clear all of Styx using Tidal Dash, with Tight Deadline 1 on
Crazy
i lost to ExM Hades, but still i made it to him
Based.
I had a similar moment where my left click (atk) broke in the middle of the Hades fight, I pulled through but I had to turn on God Mode.
what does God Mode do again? i've never used it
Dmg reduction
how much
oh, i guess that's the only way you can complete a high-heat Arthur Sword run
so good of the devs to think of that detail

@proper furnace what was the busted Beowulf build again? i wanna try it out
Flood flare > artemis atk (cope with other cores if it refuses to shwo up) > mirage shot
Pom flare and get your usual extra casts/cast dmg from chaos
If possible get rush delivery
why that
Global dmg good
isn't greater recall better?
Can't get it on beo unless you use plume
Oh yeah
Remap cast so you can load casts while in the middle of a rush
And don't load 3 casts
Either load as many it takes to kill/phase or do like 2 casts > rush, 1 cast > rush
That way you aren't stuck losing time when they are dropping
And best hammer is charged shot
Your mobility is mainly dashes
hmmm, maybe to my usual reload button?
You don't want to charge a rush all the way to to reach an enemy
That works
My remap is weird for beo lmal
Zl attack cast on Y (switch controller)
Also never do standing attacks
Dash strike into bullrush
Yup
the one time training with Skelly has actually taught me something
lmao
so, i assume i get fiery presence btw
i'll try Dark Foresight this time
Mainly witches with high confidence and fiery
Otherwise you are short like one hit
i don't want high confidence on shield
especially since beowulf makes you take +10% dmg already
+10% is not even a point of hard labor
Also is a shield
Meanwhile gilga gives +50% dmg to enemies 
ye but i'm actually terrible at blocking
The downsides are so funny
Fair
that's only if you bother to use Maim at all
just spam Tidal Dash + attack 
Doesn't make it less funny
Beo upsides are like super stupid and the downside is just +10% dmg taken
They really were some of the latest aspects to be added
(or also look at gy)
true, i once got actually one shot straight out of a Death Defiance by EM Hades tthanks to f'ing Maim
Spin ain't even that good and it cuts your health in half
by 80% if you don't have enough Tidal Blood 😭
you can literally start with 5 max HP thanks to a Chamber 1 Chaos
You can go down to 1 hp
wait
But it’s based.
Family Favorite or Privileged Status?
i assume the former
but gotta ask
Fam fav on flood
EXACTLY!
Both artemis and pos need an extra boon for their curse
And hunter's mark as priv status applier is 
LOOOOOOOOL
Listen, I get that you’re prolly joking but so many people treat God Mode as an acceptance of skill issue when it’s just something to help your run, you can turn it off anytime you find it too easy.
It makes so many builds so much more viable.
i am joking
Honestly most people don't mind god mode
I’ve gotten down to 1 with HC, that run was so much fun.
bbut you can2t stay at 1 for the entire run sadly
Maybe you'll get some comments if you try to do 32+ heat but chances are they are gonna be told "why do you care"
i am skillful enough, especially on Chiron and Hestia, that i don't need God Mode
but i'm TERRIBLE on any Malphon aspect
My god mode was left at like 36% iirc
so maybe i'll try that out
Last time I used it was to do gy prophecy lmao
I kinda can? I had Stubborn Defiance, Ruthless Reflex and HC on so I stayed 1hp through Tart.
Cuz I didn't level it up
Fair.
what does Ruthless Reflex gotta do with anything?
+dodge chance %
oh i mean 1 max HP
Lmao, reverse that and that’s me.
Yeah, so do I.
otherwise i've also completed no hit runs before (Hestia OP)
Just route enough chaos boons that they last to dad lmao
Joking ofc cuz they last like 4 chambers max
^
Last chamber you could take a chaos curse would be like ch34 and you already use an encounter on champions
Won't even last a tunnel
wait i apparently have never completed a 32 heat run with Chiron
Now’s the time?
i know i can tho, so i'll ddo it after this Beowulf run
Bet.
The 64 heat clear in question:
I mean it for the slow part lol
i mean Chiron and Hestia are also no challenge but at least they have a Serotonin button
Zeos shield gives me serotonin cuz zeus boons are funny
I love not being able to see
are zeus boons indeed the best on zzeus shield?
Zeus boons on anything else feels underwhelming
Zeus^2 is best yeah
Unless you want like pure speed where merciful end is your choice
bbut nothing i've tried on Zeus Shield has been "whelming" at all so far
remind me what that is pls
like i've tried Artemis Special
and Dionysus Special
and goddamn Hangover sucks so much even on Zeus Shield
Zeus boons just get better the more boons you have from him
the thing about zeus is you can half ass it all the way to 32, maybe even 40
after that, it's a problem to go fast
Static discharge will solve your dmg, but if you like a lot of numbers on screen add dou le strike + splitting bolt
Just don't be like me and only ever see Zeus twice in a Zeus run
i mean, it's the same for Hestia
but Hestia takes half as much time
twice is all you need
I mean if is still boring to you that's fair
yeah, but ap2 make twice a high roll

But there is a reason is an amazing weapon for heat
(hestia prob falls on the, can clear 64 but have fun rolling for hermes)
Rama 1 dash is also ugh
does Abyssal/Boiling Blood do anything with Beowulf?
Nah
one dash em4 is almost impossible
also Hestia needs only 1 boon to be useful
anything before that is doable but very hard
wait
hestia can't deal with dc2 without crippling time
why take ruthless reflex at all LMAO
dc2?
uhh
what's that
Gilga is like the only that takes ruthless consistently
ye but why would you take damage control on 32 Heat
Gilgamesh likes it
I've seen some shield players do ruthless for 50+
Just swap the dash for your bulleush
so why complain about 1 Dash Rama?
I was talking about something like 60
That was in context of 64 heat
oh
Ap2/Ri are in play
Just win
Have fun getting good hermes stuff
zyruvias, who cleared 60 hestia only manage to get to heros with dc2
60 + 2 heat from dc
only non shield 62 is eris and rama
Good aspects
the eris run is just straight up luckiest run I've seen
Also luck on the boons
even more than 64
63 with lc3 ri4 when
I don't think people will play that with non shield
3 minute EM4 fight with no damage taken btw
Hermes stays goated
plus 1 hermes dash
dc 2 hestia with zeus atk and hunter dash 👍
the game is spamming me with Dio boons 
i just got to Asphodel but i have 3 Dio boons already
i skipped all cores and got Strong Drink, Positive Outlook, and After Party
but even those weren't enough
i just reset the run
will turn off damage control and tight deadline
f---ing Alecto was kicking my behind


