is like zeus-dio-dem-someone else
#h1-builds-and-combat
proper furnace
defaults to artemis iirc
prob easier to check on fresh file
where only 4 gods are on the first run
yeah even if you have her
also helped in noticing damue's cheating iirc
cuz artemis was summoned anyways 
proper furnace
tl;dr cheater
tight basin
damue was a high heater who cheated some of his accomplishments
he did some runs legitimately iirc but idk specifics
neat rock
any boons i should sell and should i switch any keepsake now?
tight basin
crit rate and always starting arty
proper furnace
crit chance, god pool basically
tight basin
i think
neat rock
i can sell demeter’s or heaven’s or static
tight basin
any boons i should sell and should i switch any keepsake now?
going into styx?
neat rock
definitely keep static
proper furnace
yeah styx
neat rock
going into styx?
yeah the maze thing
proper furnace
just slap tooth on
tight basin
demeters what
tight basin
ah
yeah just keep it it's whatever
unless you want to sell it and get zeus/dio call
but take acorn
proper furnace
they have nasty dash
proper furnace
but take acorn
don't have it
tight basin
hope for zeus call and sell dem call if you want lmao
oh
yeah tooth
i didn't backread lol
neat rock
i do have the acorn
proper furnace
oh
tight basin
take that then
tight basin
it negates more than tooth
proper furnace
most of dad attacks will amount to more than 100 hp yeah
neat rock
holy balls
proper furnace
specially if you get hit during boiling blood
neat rock
errrr
proper furnace
or you get chipped away by summons
neat rock
i dont think that amounts to much
proper furnace
better use it now
neat rock
i really DO want to beat dad
tight basin
minimum dad damage from 3 hits is 90 i believe
proper furnace
just assume sack won't appear till late and it will lvl up at least once in styx 
tight basin
the difference between lvl 1 acorn and max tooth is 2 hits max lmao
neat rock
hope i do beat the daddy ho
proper furnace
hope you find zeus special first
tight basin
oh bruh lmao
proper furnace
or at least zeus-dio duo
proper furnace
you'll want to lvl it up at some point
proper furnace
did you get like zero zeus in styx lmao
neat rock
so far i just beat the dion chamber
proper furnace
the ultimate cope at this point not that you have ice wine is getting static discharge lmao
tight basin
i got demeter + dion duo
this is actually pretty good lmao
proper furnace
unless call doesn't open it?
tight basin
gotta level it somehow
might as well just use it
it's still pretty solid even at lvl 1
neat rock
which boon should i power up
lightning strike frozen touch heaven’s
lightning is lv 2 frozen is lv 1 and heaven’s is lv 3
wut rolls
oh my lord its 5 AM
i need sleep what the hell am i doing
neat rock
why am i playing hades at 5 AM
neat rock
last mirror skill
i have no idea
proper furnace
i need sleep what the hell am i doing
escaping hades clearly
neat rock
escaping hades clearly <:dusa:522248771409543188>
escaping dad
proper furnace
lightning is lv 2 frozen is lv 1 and heaven’s is lv 3
just vengeance again tbh lol
neat rock
in a virtual game
hey
i can buy another pom now
or buy an artemis blessing
which should i do
or should i save up more
proper furnace
what's left in the tunnels/shop
neat rock
oooooh
okay
i think im calling it dibs to my bed now
🤷♂️
my back hurts this is unhealthy
proper furnace
enjoy whatever is left of sleep
neat rock
enjoy whatever is left of sleep
i have a nuclear sleep schedule
become healthy and sleep early? NAAAH STAY UP AND PLAY HADES
yeah thats a good tip to be honest but the bed looks very
very tempting
ill fix it tomorrow
i promise
tight basin
i've heard that one before
cedar iris
Eris Hazard Bomb goes brrr
2 Shot Redacted's first 2 phases and then died to self damage. All my DD got lost against Thessy and Asty already.
But I got the Rail prophecy now, so I'll never pick up Hazard Bomb again.
placid valve
is Zeus' special limited and worse to some capacity if you use it on chiron? I saw it mentioned somewhere but I wanted to confirm
proper furnace
is Zeus' special limited and worse to some capacity if you use it on chiron? I ...
Not on chiron specifically
Zeus boons have an internal cooldown
Special is 0.2 secs, attack is like 0.15
Easy to notice on chiron cuz all your arrows hit so fast
neat rock
hello folks
i am awake
and i fought the tiny vermin for the very first time
got an ares boon though!
should i choose curse of vengeance or battle rage?
there's also curse of agony (heroic)
but i've got lightning strike which is on lv 2 & epic
cov?
oh
ill send u my build
cov still?
:p
neat rock
anything i should buy?
chosen
lmao
OOOOKAY
FIRST PHASE OVER
97 HP OUT OF 275
2 REVIVES LEFT
any tips?!!! i'm horrified
i always die at his second phase
proper furnace
Abuse your block
And hide behind the pillars for lasers
Or go behind him during the 3 lasers version to get free dmg
When is 360° lasers is safer to hide
neat rock
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
proper furnace
Now go boast #h1-victory-boasting
vagrant crane
just you wait
neat rock
just you wait
w-wha
proper furnace
They are joking
eager flint
nah, you're safe for now
Just use your common sense, when you see the signs you'll know you're in for a bad time
<insert sans>
mystic zenith
nah, you're safe for now
for now
eager flint
spoiler I guess ? ||I said bad time but tbh I love the EM4 fight, it's really epic||
fading totem
I was using hidden aspect of twin fists so I turned heat off, ended up getting Sea Storm, both Poseidon and Zeus legendary and absolutely nuking the final fight.
My first try I restarted at Elysium final encounter because I had 40hp and no DD
I don't like that aspect
Yeah all my damage came from rupture/jolted
Still need to do Stygius shield rail hidden aspects
Or at least reach the surface
Don't think Stygius will be fun, I don't like attacking 0.04 times per second
shut mortar
i like gilgamesh for doing blade dash only runs (i don’t like tidal dash only)
but otherwise yeah it’s so bad
ivory turtle
Thanks :D hopefully I get Zeus in tart
warm snow
it's a meme run because Talos
ivory turtle
Precisely
warm snow
TRUE
ivory turtle
Oh I thought you start by forcing Poseidon then spamming special lol
warm snow
why use special at all
ivory turtle
Because ✨ silly✨
Chaos favor boons increase odds of duos right?
I also have a strike and grasp boon available to me, but Idk if this build needs either of those
Ik that technically Talos is a castspect but I'm not going that route lol
vagrant crane
Chaos favor boons increase odds of duos right?
yea
duo/lego/epic +10%
strike and grasp both useless yes
ivory turtle
K good I made the right call
Also I GOT ZEUS IN TARTY LESGOOOOO
I got epic Zeus call and regular Zeus attack on offer... Call unlocks the duo and is better damage, so that's the right call, right?
vagrant crane
I got epic Zeus call and regular Zeus attack on offer... Call unlocks the duo an...
attack
call is definitely not better damage
ivory turtle
Ahhh ty for the save
vagrant crane
attack also unlocks sea storm but you need flood shot or tempest flourish or pos call for sea storm
tdash doesn’t work
so you need an extra pos boon
ivory turtle
Oh I have pos flourish already
vagrant crane
ivory turtle
That's what I started with
I'm leaning into the memes rn
Also what server is that from lol
vagrant crane
speedrun server
ivory turtle
Nice
vagrant crane
ivory turtle
K but still attack right
vagrant crane
yes
ivory turtle
It sounds VERY good lol
Uhhh who do I force going into aspho now? I can't do pos even though I want to now for t2 boons
vagrant crane
who is in your pool
vagrant crane
idk u have options
zeus is fine
what u really want is to get your pool full so you can get another poseidon for tdash
ivory turtle
Yeah, maybe go for one of his t2s?
Gotcha
Maybe force someone else just for the sake of filling up the pool?
vagrant crane
you could do dio for his call
ivory turtle
Ooooh das true
Might do that actually
Thanks for the tips man :D
Yep going for it
Got a trial between Zeus and Pos ayooooo
AAAND GOT DASH
vagrant crane
gg
ivory turtle
This is very silly
ivory turtle
Is heavy knuckle the play here?? Or should I go with draining cutter lol
I already have breaching
vagrant crane
Is heavy knuckle the play here?? Or should I go with draining cutter lol
whats 3rd
ivory turtle
Long lol
vagrant crane
yea take that
ivory turtle
Long??
cedar iris
need some advice on no heat level 2 Hera. I can't beat the game with it! I aim for crush shot, if I can't get it I settle for Phalanx.
But I just suck
shoudl I focus on dash attack and do quick shots only? it takes so long to get the stones back, should I rather go for 3 second soul over 3 charges?
dapper harness
infernal soul is always better for hera
there's also youtube guide for hera by duunk0
cedar iris
Thanks! Will try again tomorrow focusing solely on dash attack
dapper harness
trippy on hera
languid abyss
Maxed the aspect of Zeus, love the playstyle of it
Was trying Zeus on special
What are some other fun builds?
warm snow
merciful end
shut mortar
dio
you can do curse of nausea with it
ares attack
or splitting headache
arty attack
or both
steady walrus
I don’t wanna max zag sword o(-(
But I have all this nectar
I mean I need to start giving it to gods
outer sonnet
I don’t wanna max zag sword o(-(
Do it 😈
steady walrus
I could unlock everything insteaddddd
outer sonnet
?
steady walrus
I don’t have all the hiddens unlocked
ruby siren
hey yall, is there a cap to the number of wells u can encounter in styx? i passed by 2 already, sack now in hand, n am trying to figure out whether i should continue tunneling on the hope of finding a kyss of stix or if it's capped at 2 wells. couldnt find anything about a cap via google but i dont recall ever passing 3 in a single run, vut maybe thats just cuz theyre rare to begin with n the norm isnt to hit every tunnel
proper furnace
hey yall, is there a cap to the number of wells u can encounter in styx? i passe...
no cap, don't exactly remember but pretty sure it has a cooldown between wells (same as chaos gates and what not)
warm snow
kyss of stix
atomic forge
trying to use aspect of rama for that one quest but none of the builds i try seem to do well, any advice?
tight basin
trying to use aspect of rama for that one quest but none of the builds i try see...
A beefy % attack, Aphro is very good (ideally not common), or you can go for Artemis because crits, any high rarity % attack can do except Poseidon (avoid that one), for the Special you want flat damage, it's not hard to come by, usually not worth forcing tho, Ares Dio Zeus are the main ones, you can go for Demeter and try to get Killing freeze, it can work pretty well, for the Dash there arent many options because most of them are either anti-synergy or just dont do anything, Artemis however is probably the best in slot dash, because Rama relies on dash strikes and getting dash strike damage is just good, Athena is a good one too because deflecting is nice, another important thing for Rama is hammers, ideally you want Triple Shot or Twin Shot for your first hammer, if not offered you can go for Perfect or Point Blank, and for the second hammer you usually want Perfect or Point Blank (assuming Triple or Twin first) but the order can be the other way here, if you get Perfect Shot as first hammer then it's fine too, hammers to avoid are Sniper shot (blocks Twins shot) and also doesnt do anything, and Repulse shot, Explosive is a bit of an odd one, it's nice in some scenarios but hard to play, Chain shot is okay, wont do much in bosses. Rama is difficult and needs practice but it's really good when it comes to heat especially, it's a good idea to watch vods of people who are good at it and try to implement their movement and decision making in your runs
thanks MiKE
atomic forge
DAMN tysm
steady walrus
I got Artemis dash on Demeter fists once w breach, it was fun
cedar iris
Zag vs Demeter fists? I'm not a huge fan of fists in this game but I want 1 finished run with each weapon type.
Both are rated equally in the tier list in the new ppl channel, so I wonder what to do here...
Dem is a lot more expensive than Zag but I am open to suggestions :3
outer sonnet
Zag vs Demeter fists? I'm not a huge fan of fists in this game but I want 1 fini...
Dem is better but do whatever u want
outer sonnet
Zag vs Demeter fists? I'm not a huge fan of fists in this game but I want 1 fini...
Where is the tier list?
proper furnace
Where is the tier list?
vagrant crane
Zag vs Demeter fists? I'm not a huge fan of fists in this game but I want 1 fini...
dem is the best fist aspect
upgrading zag basically does nothing
cedar iris
Kay, will give Dem a go then
proper furnace
15%
steady walrus
On paper it’s 15% damage reduction
steady walrus
Yeye
analog mauve
does serrated proc lighting twice
tight basin
I don't think so because of internal cooldown but I could be wrong
Might be on like 1st and 3rd hit, but don't think so
analog mauve
whats the cooldown?
analog mauve
and theres no info on the time between serrateds 3 hits right
tight basin
Yeah pretty much no time between those
acoustic vale
For shields supposedly you can combo a dash strike directly into a bull rush. How do I do that because right now I just end up accidentally chaining rushes or dash strike into an attack then rushing
lucid oar
Just do a dash strike but instead of letting go of attack at the end, hold it
acoustic vale
I'm trying but I have absolutely no idea if it's working or if I'm just doing regular dash strikes and regular bull rushes.
proper furnace
I mean, that sounds like it's working?
acoustic vale
I hope so
tight basin
I'm trying but I have absolutely no idea if it's working or if I'm just doing re...
i mean you dash strike then hold? that's all there is to it
the dash strike is like a swipe, and bull rush is the same
red hound
is there calcs for dpm for nemesis aspect on artemis attack vs a dps attack?
vagrant crane
is there calcs for dpm for nemesis aspect on artemis attack vs a dps attack?
epic % attack is better than arty for raw dps
i think
but arty opens marked
red hound
oh
vagrant crane
and gives u super consistent
red hound
thats true
vagrant crane
crits
red hound
cuz ive always gone aphro/poseidon atk
tight basin
arty, aphrodite, or shackle or generally considered the best for nem attack
ivory turtle
K, is epic swift strike preferred or normal hyper sprint on Arthur? I do have epic hunters dash so I might be able to make use of RD but I don't like banking on that
outer sonnet
Rd is goated
Hs rarity doesnt matter
Only rd rarity
Swift strike is fine i guess
But why not gamble for rd
ivory turtle
Trueeee
GAH I think I'm gonna do swift strike because speedy huge swings sounds fun
BUT
HYPER
G A H
ivory turtle
I'm gonna go for swift tbh
outer sonnet
Ok
proper furnace
Swift strike arthur is fun
untold mauve
What is ideal pact for speedruns
untold mauve
rta?
vagrant crane
real time attack
igt is in game timer
td is bad for igt because it disables survival rooms
which are good for igt because they pause the timer
but good for rta because it disables surivval rooms
which are bad for rta cause they are 45 seconds long
untold mauve
thanks
cedar iris
Is Mirage Shot still bugged on Beo or did they fix this?
cedar iris
On paper, Beo seems pretty ridiculous. High dmg, block-ability, gimmick is easy to execute.
proper furnace
Good thing in practice is also ridiculous
cedar iris
Good to know. Zeus and Hera are both fun, so why not a mix of the 2 :3
shut mortar
crazy how it's the best one even without the duo that's bugged to make it even better
eager flint
AP2 is the only thing stopping high heat from being overrun by beo I imagine
eager flint
Ah, true. I thought about RI1 making getting mirage shot even sketchier but not about the cast
untold mauve
would crystal beam and rd be good together
tight basin
Rd makes anything good tbf
tight basin
Poseidon, Artemis, Demeter for ravenous will and snow burst
untold mauve
what about fourth god?
tight basin
4th god I guess like idk Athena for divine flourish -> deadly reversal -> ddash?
Idk beo functions fine with 2 gods lmao
untold mauve
true
tight basin
4th isn't important
It's more like
Don't clog the pom pool lmao
Passion dash for heart rend can be funny
But less useful unless you have pressure points and actually crit on casts
untold mauve
greater recall, fully loaded, mirage shot, flood flare, hyper sprint, rush delivery, and charged shot, along with sudden rush, what do you think about this for beo?
eager flint
greater recall is not that good on flood flare
you usually grab the stones right as they touch the ground anyway
untold mauve
but instant
eager flint
it's already instant
Greater recall also needs to wait for the cast stones to touch the floor iirc
Also sudden rush seems insignificant
Otherwise yeah
Good build
Also, getting RD + greater recall sounds like a headache and a half lol
are you really gonna wait for styx to get either the +100% damage from RD, or the greater recall effect even if it was good ?
untold mauve
i will drop my fanciful ideas of greater recall
so to clarify this - fully loaded, mirage shot, flood flare, hyper sprint, rush delivery, charged shot, ravenous will, and snow burst
thats ideal?
dapper harness
you don't really need fully loaded
but yeah that's ideal
slap some chaos boons, braids and +casts and you're good to go
ocean vortex
What is a good build for the aspect of Beowulf?
lucid oar
Read above
untold mauve
Lmao
proper furnace
greater recall, fully loaded, mirage shot, flood flare, hyper sprint, rush deliv...
As an aside way too late
For greater recall you jeed to use hermes keepsake
Beo can't get either quick reload or flurry cast
cedar iris
Beo vs Hera pros and cons? Can't make up my mind xD
vagrant crane
Beo vs Hera pros and cons? Can't make up my mind xD
beo has better aoe and better damage
cedar iris
And block
vagrant crane
hera is not hammer reliant and can more snappily move from one enemy to next
vagrant crane
with beo the game becomes a puzzle
since your actual actions are so slow but your aoe is so large you have to figure out how to hit the most enemies per volley and route your way around a room
cedar iris
That sounds a lot of fun tbh :3
south sonnet
what would be a good zeus shield build
so far my ideas are:
splitting, double, thunder flourish, support and thats it
strange lark
yeah thats pretty much it
proper furnace
Is support like support fire?
south sonnet
yep
proper furnace
Not needed
Also add static discharge
If you want to be fancy can add zeus call + aphro core for their duo
For more lightning
tight basin
double strike (and kinda splitting) is less important than static discharge lmao
thunder flourish, jolted, then win
south sonnet
thunder flourish, jolted, die to dad is what i think you mean
proper furnace
dapper harness
copypasta material
vagrant crane
its a copypasta
dapper harness
oh lol
steep grotto
does ice wine still work if you sell dem's boon?
vagrant crane
yes
steep grotto
cool
acoustic vale
Can support fire target dad's pots?
slim lynx
did you know that S tier actually stands for Support fire?
acoustic skiff
Can support fire target dad's pots?
I think it doesn't target them but it does break them if it happens to go through them
acoustic vale
You know I actually kinda liked support fire till I learned that
Cause like. It's not a lot of damage but it IS free damage you get for just doing exactly what you were going to be doing anyways if you aren't doing dash%. But like. God breaking the pots is not good.
Well it could be. But like. It's probably very likely to be breaking the pots next to zag
prime yew
meme beam walkthrough?\
nimble acorn
Does Demeter's Ravenous Will (When you have no cast stones, take less damage/deal more) work when stone are loaded into beowulf or hera weapons?
nimble acorn
thanks
azure bloom
I want to get q clear with nemesis blade
If I use divine dash + crit from art
What should i put on my special?
azure bloom
yeah
I was using poseison dash
On nem blade
it was so fun and good but alecto used up a death defiance
vagrant crane
thats also good
azure bloom
My gauge was 0.0006 seconds away from beinf there ro use a call
I was so close to cleainf Hades but uh Alecto is unironically stronger than Bone hydra and theasus
How does rail gun work btw
Just dash attack until special comes up right?
zealous solar
@lucid ferry what is DD and family fav?
lucid ferry
Death Defiances
Family Favorite is a row on the mirror that boosts your damage based on the number of gods you have in your pool
zealous solar
I got that but still no idea what family fav is
lucid ferry
Ends up being a flat 25% damage boost
zealous solar
Family Favorite is a row on the mirror that boosts your damage based on the numb...
Pool?
wispy stream
how do i explain pool
lucid ferry
Once you pick 4 diff gods, you might notice that the game doesn't offer you new ones any more
zealous solar
But yeah I’ve only been playing for what since Wednesday? Todays Saturday
zealous solar
It’s 5:37pm for me by the way
zealous solar
Once you pick 4 diff gods, you might notice that the game doesn't offer you new ...
You mean for boons?
wispy stream
yes
zealous solar
Oh yeah I noticed that
Usually I like Athena’s boons
Should I explain my usual strategy to you guys?
wispy stream
sure
also unless you really struggle in a specific biome you shouldnt be using collar outside of styx, coin purse would be much better
zealous solar
Ok so usually I use the weapon that has the darkness boost to get more darkness but my favourite weapon right now is the shield and bow and spear I feel should be my favourite I just haven’t had the chance to use it much twin fists too
I am not a big fan of Sword or the fun
Gun
So my most successful run was with shield of chaos
wispy stream
shield and bow are my favourites aswell\
zealous solar
I like having Zeus and Athena boons
So my strategy has been Athena’s item first then swop for Cerberus and or skelly
My goal is also to get as much hp as possible I prioritise that
wispy stream
you should focus on getting good boons first and health second imo
zealous solar
So my most successful run was with shield of chaos
I got all the way up to sues
I mean hades
Anyway when I get to choosing a boon I search up the best one on Google
wispy stream
also have you gotten a duo boon yet?
wispy stream
that is one of the best ones in the entire game
zealous solar
that is one of the best ones in the entire game
I think that was my most successful one by the way
But I lost to hades
That was the one in my most successful run
Also the one of the few times I sold off a boon was the Demeter crystal laser thing
Was fun but I couldn’t like get the damage boost from the crystals being inside enemies
wispy stream
if you have sea storm you want posiedon on your weapons and have a bunch of secondary zeus and posiedon boons like static discharge and razor shoals
But you can also go for different gods
I personally liked ares special when I used chaos
zealous solar
My favs or the ones I run into a lot are Athena Zeus Poseidon and dionysus along with ares but I don’t see him much
I see Artemis a lot but rarely do I see Aphrodite
And I’ve stopped getting chaos boons
I used to love getting chaos boons my first few days
I just got demeters boons and I already dislike her and avoid her if I can
Hermes boons are handy but again don’t see him often
zealous solar
if you have sea storm you want posiedon on your weapons and have a bunch of seco...
Oooo
Anyway starting another run I’m gonna try with shield of chaos and I’m gonna go with my Athena strategy I’ll go with Athena Zeus Poseidon
dim crane
Have anyone tried aphro and zeus duo boon with zeus call?
Its busted
Lik u got 600-800 damage every 3-5 secs
And if u get the faster call generating boon its even better
proper furnace
Smair is busted yeah
azure bloom
So uh
I have two clears with fists
two clears with spear
one with shield
Whats a arrow build
That I can use to clear
I am using chirons
dim crane
I am using chirons
Aphro attack with dyno or arti special and u can complete the rest urself
Duo boons are great in these builds
azure bloom
okay thank u fellas
proper furnace
Pray there's health on a Charon's well or shop
If using the +3 hp per room, try and no hit a few rooms and it will add up
or use a DD and buy it back later
zealous solar
There isn’t uhhh
proper furnace
Are you like, right before a boss
zealous solar
No?
Technically?
I’m in Styx if that’s correct
There’s three rooms left
I’ve exhausted all my death defiance
I have 19hp left
Charles shop has nothing
Only an anvil I can afford
proper furnace
If using the +3 hp per room, try and no hit a few rooms and it will add up
This applies for Styx specially
Do you have the sack to pass Cerberus already?
zealous solar
Three more tunnels a Pom coins and a hard Athena tunnel
proper furnace
What other athena boons you have
zealous solar
I just got sweet nectar boon
zealous solar
What other athena boons you have
Lemme check
Deathless stand (exhausted)
Phalanx shot
That’s it?
Mirage shot?
proper furnace
Minibosses are easier than normal rooms
zealous solar
Minibosses are easier than normal rooms
Oh
proper furnace
And if you have nice luck chances are that is the sack
zealous solar
The one with the skull on it right?
proper furnace
And you don't have to fight the miniboss
zealous solar
Ok my other boons are
proper furnace
The one with the skull on it right?
Yeah
zealous solar
I can’t take photo
proper furnace
I’m using level 2 chaos aegis
As in chaos aspect?
zealous solar
As in chaos aspect?
Yeah? I can throw three shields after bill charge
Can I dm you my buffs?
proper furnace
Ouch
zealous solar
I cant post picture
proper furnace
Oof is that bad
Chaos aspect is quite bad yeah
Still can win with it but it's like playing normal shield really
The issue is that the special doesn't let you block till the ahield is back
zealous solar
Chaos aspect is quite bad yeah
Oof
Someone said to use that
Instead of zeus
Because I’m a beginner
I only started playing a few days ago
Earlier today I lost to hades
proper furnace
Zeus is better
zealous solar
I was using a Zeus Poseidon boon chaos aegis build
proper furnace
You can use the special and block
proper furnace
Is not hard to get wins with is
zealous solar
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/835122585875775531/1152619845897179156/im...
Here’s my boons and stuff
Hope you can see
proper furnace
Def go for athena
proper furnace
Spam charged shot/phalanx shot to clear without getting into poison
proper furnace
Spam charged shot/phalanx shot to clear without getting into poison
Tunnels are like 4-5 rooms so that's at least 12 health back
Can also run into charon wells for health
And if luck is good you get the sack and the fountain
zealous solar
Can also run into charon wells for health
Wells?
proper furnace
Yeah
proper furnace
Just play it absolute safe
Don't uae your special
Aphro atk + charged shot does a lot of dmg
zealous solar
Don't uae your special
Oh ok
OMG YES
it was weak waves of enemies
And I found athena boon a fountain that looks like it’s leaking pee and the sack
proper furnace
Gaming
zealous solar
Should o replace tidal dark
Dash
With divine dash
I mean it’s battle with hades
proper furnace
No other DD boon I assume?
zealous solar
No other DD boon I assume?
No
proper furnace
Hmm yeah might as well
zealous solar
I’ve been using tidal dash so far
proper furnace
With no dd/low hp/not knowing that fight it can help more
zealous solar
Plus this is the hades battle I’m not sure if tidal dash would be good
zealous solar
My Hp isn’t gonna be that low anymore I have the pee fountain
proper furnace
Just think going defensive would be better rn
zealous solar
Just think going defensive would be better rn
Yeah
proper furnace
Fwiw?
For what is worth
Oh yeah as a tip for shield
Blocking hades skulls makes them disappear
zealous solar
Blocking hades skulls makes them disappear
Ok
proper furnace
Compared to deflecting them with athena boons making them drop to the ground
analog mauve
is it a good idea to switch to controller when using sword
proper furnace
Should I try my luck with the anvil?
Charged shot good
zealous solar
Charged shot good
I have charged shot
proper furnace
You trade the safety of the bullrush for dmg but is worth it
Cuz you don't have much dmg tbh
proper furnace
Yeah not worth doing extra tunnels
zealous solar
Funny usually it’s the dad leaving and not the son
Imagine if the plot of hades was Hades escaping the underworld to “get milk”
proper furnace
Just hope Dad summons aren't awful
zealous solar
Summons?
Also what’s the game now for hades? Guess I just defend charge shot and block the heads? And j guess use my cast on hades and to deflect stuff
proper furnace
What's the furthest you've gone into the dad fight
proper furnace
Also what’s the game now for hades? Guess I just defend charge shot and block th...
Pretty much, play it safe and if you find an opening soam Cshot
It's dmg is always the same no matter how short the charge is
zealous solar
What's the furthest you've gone into the dad fight
Uhh shoot I can’t remember?
But I didn’t die early that’s for sure
After he summoned enemies after that point
proper furnace
Worst is if he summons like elysium enemies
Witches would be ideal cuz you can just deflect their atks back for quick kills
zealous solar
He summoned Asphodel enemies last time
proper furnace
Oh yeah, do you know how dash Iframes work?
zealous solar
What
zealous solar
Oh yeah, do you know how dash Iframes work?
No?
proper furnace
No?
Dashing makes you invulnerable for its full duration, and doing any type of atk removes them as soon as you do the action
zealous solar
I do have hermes sturdy
When I dash
zealous solar
Dashing makes you invulnerable for its full duration, and doing any type of atk ...
So what do I do
proper furnace
If you wanna dodge something just be sure to not do any other input
You can just dash through attacks wiyh your iframes
Deflecting and sturdy will make your dash even more safe
Deflected attacks can't hurt you ofc and well, sturdy dmg reduction is always a nice thing
zealous solar
Deflecting and sturdy will make your dash even more safe
Deflected attacks can't...
And play defensively but spam the charged shot
Thabjs
proper furnace
Have fun and don't go back to the house of hades so quick
zealous solar
Have fun and don't go back to the house of hades so quick <:dusa:522248771409543...
Idied lmao
There’s nothing after hades right
proper furnace
nope
zealous solar
I know most already best him but I haven’t so I’m super excited like Zagreus I feel close
Each time I got to a new boss when I was playing it felt better and better
I like how the game feels to play
But yeah wish me the best of luck as I try to best Hades!
steady walrus
Oug Arthur is so weird to play
analog mauve
is it a good idea to switch to controller when using sword
because on kbm i end up not dash striking
vagrant crane
because on kbm i end up not dash striking
that’s a u issue
not kbm
just practice
south sonnet
Oug Arthur is so weird to play
just wait till shield hidden aspect
steady walrus
I got it by accident but then immediately got hunting so
fallow lantern
Guan Yu Special time!
What's the best hammer again? Charged skewer?
And who do I want to buff it? Aphrodite for damage?
proper furnace
charged skewer yeah and aphro or arte
fallow lantern
ty :)
I remembered right!
fallow lantern
ye that's a lotta damage
wild stone
yeah hard to decide
was tart but whatever
omg i got cast damage bonus from bouldy
incredible
lv4 epic poseidon cast already too
5 casts already
solid reef
should i take divine dash over blade dash?
acoustic skiff
divine dash is pretty much the best dash in the game, especially if you're new
also if you're really new you might want to stick to #h1-for-new-players as other channels are both spoilery and deal with endgame strategies that might not apply to you for some time
cedar iris
Fist vs Spear, which is tRuElY the worst weapon in the game? In so many vids on YT and posts on reddit (and also read it here a few times), everyone says how bad fists are compared to all other weapons, but I have an easier time with Demeter fists over Achilles Spear, the other weapon type to be considered relatively bad.
Asking only have serious, albeit still very curious :3
lucid oar
For speedruns, it’s fists
High heat they’re both about the same, maybe spear edges out a little
For anything else, it doesn’t really matter
tired bridge
For a Nemesis Sword build with Merciful End, is it better to run Athena's dash or Artemis dash?
cedar iris
For speedruns, it’s fists
Funny how my only sub 18 run so far is with fists...
lucid oar
That may be the case, but when looking at WRs, optimal builds for high end times, spear comes out on top
My first sub 8 was on fists, now I barely touch the weapon
lucid oar
For a Nemesis Sword build with Merciful End, is it better to run Athena's dash ...
Athena
cedar iris
My first sub 8 was on fists, now I barely touch the weapon
sad punching noises
tired bridge
I have a question tho.
If I have for instance the Athena boon on my attack and the Artemis boon in my dash, when I use my dash attack, does the game combine their bonus damage?
Or does it only count the bonus of the dash?
lucid oar
Dash striking counts both your attack damage and your dash strike
tired bridge
Thank you
cedar iris
Dash Strike for Life
cedar iris
Are Gilgamesh fists any good compared to Demeter? I can only see tidal dash shenanigans as a good setup for those...
valid dagger
Are Gilgamesh fists any good compared to Demeter? I can only see tidal dash shen...
No and yea that's mostly what they're used to, Merciful End is also good
cedar iris
Looking at ME then
cedar iris
So, maim is not worth to build around?
valid dagger
So, maim is not worth to build around?
Nah not really
The thing is, building around maim is just getting more global damage which is good for all weapons so if thats what you mean then sure
Maim has very niche uses, can be decent in some scenarios like furies but learning it and the weapon as a whole is a lot of comittment
frozen latch
charged skewer and spam special
or quick spin
use aphro or arte on strike or flourish
based on hammer
quick spin work well with athena strike too
azure bloom
but its nest to full blood it first right
frozen latch
at max, it's -50%
azure bloom
okay
i find bow really clunky
dash strike doesnt really work wirh chiron does it?
Because u end up marking multiple people
azure bloom
the hammer comvo is flurry+ triple right
then shotgun it
is there a way to influence hammer boon
lean hornet
On beo run do I swap my epic flood for a heroic trippy? (In Tartarus)
vagrant crane
On beo run do I swap my epic flood for a heroic trippy? (In Tartarus)
no
ivory turtle
Off topic but about your username... is L50 divine dash even possible lol
tight basin
Just difficult to do lmao
ivory turtle
WHERHRHDIEJT
???
K so sweet nectar obviously helped
That's insane
... how does one even
strange lark
it was a route
ivory turtle
Ohhhh like seeded or hacked?
Thaaaat would make sense lol
K also I'm going for the super soaker build on lucifer rn, should I take targeting, greater inferno or triple beam?
I'm going triple lol
O H
That makes sense
tight basin
haelian got lvl 51 on crush shot without routing or anything
it's much more practical to get a high level on an aphrodite or poseidon boon
i'd love to see a massive lvl tdash lmao
ivory turtle
Could've been bigger, I only got normal rarity
tight basin
and then getting a 2 sack in styx
tight basin
Could've been bigger, I only got normal rarity
true but rd is rd lmao
ivory turtle
I was literally about to take hourglass and I took purse instead 😭
ivory turtle
Heck yeah
Lernie was mad easy
This run is blessed
I got dire misfortune! Not as good as impending but whatever
Oooh should I take hourglass into styx? There's chimaera jerky and ignited ichor on offer, could help with RD?
GOT IMPENDIIIIIING
dapper harness
now do it again
cedar iris
So... Beo without Mirage Shot is a lot weaker than Hera? Clear time difference at 3 heat of 4 minutes.
Hera at lv 3, Beo at lv 4
Beo with Crush shot btw
And Hera was with Tidal Shot and worked SO well
lucid oar
Sample size of 2 runs doesnt mean much here
There are a lot more factors for clear time than just the build
tight basin
Garbage builds can get a sub6 lmao
And sometimes an actual good build is like an 8 minute run
vagrant crane
also possible user error
placid remnant
Rare strong drink
Epic hermes attack
normal Zeus attack, rare special, epic double strike and legendary
Shadow strike
All before meg :^)
placid remnant
I don't know what emotion that is conveying
analog mauve
how fast do fists attack
potent tree
I don't know what emotion that is conveying
You've been judged unworthy (of speedy running)
placid remnant
Speed running is so over rated
tight basin
What aspect is that even on lmao
potent tree
I lack the skill for speed running 
analog mauve
same
but i think getting the boons and button mashing gets you halfway there if the boons are good enough
potent tree
Can confirm
analog mauve
👊
potent tree
By the way, are you on PC, False?
analog mauve
im on a macbook
potent tree
Have you tried swapping between graphics backends to see if that helps with BP lava puddles?
tight basin
I lack the skill for speed running <:zagsad:1012805275511701554>
Don't you have a sub9 or something
potent tree
Don't you have a sub9 or something
By four milliseconds! 😂
potent tree
i dont even know wha that means tbh
Basically choosing between DX12 and Vulkan. I think you should have the option somewhere before launching the game
tight basin
Majority of players don't have that
potent tree
True! I'm no jazz, but you're right!
analog mauve
i dont think i had that option
potent tree
Nothing like this?https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/846829116963422229/1153404985598562314/image.png
analog mauve
i dont remember seeing that
slim lynx
so it deals an extra 30%
your special is turned to a quick shot of 3-4 arrows, dealing low damage and applying the shared suffering effect
enemies afflicted with shared suffering will take 50% (at max upgrades) of your attack damage when hitting enemies. directly hitting an enemy that has shared suffering applied will deal full damage + 50%
vagrant crane
60% at max
slim lynx
oops
slim lynx
i still haven't played the game in ... a while
take what i say with a grain of salt
you can play rama by applying shared suffering and then dashstriking but it's funnier to run something like dio special
vagrant crane
and also weaker lol
just press q a few times into room and then wipe wave in 1 dash strike power shot
slim lynx
rama can't use charged volley right
tight basin
maybe that's the secret to clearing 50
lean hornet
Does Stygian shard damage stack with each other
proper furnace
Does Stygian shard damage stack with each other
Yes, multiplicatively
lean hornet
Oh my
proper furnace
Have fun
halcyon vector
just did a rama run with dio special, I got epic heartbreak strike and swift strike in tartarus then when I got to asphodel I took eurydice's ambrosia delight and they both became heroic rarity, then I got perfect shot and twin shot in elysium and I think it might be the most fun I've had with a bow run since I found out about the dio special chiron build
I also had poseidon cast to try to maybe get exclusive access or sweet nectar and ended up getting both of them
by the time I got to elysium I was powerful enough to kill theseus with six shots (with a special at the start to apply shared suffering
uncut umbra
does zeus's special with aspect of chiron do lightning damage x number of arrows
or does it only do a single instance of lightning damage per special
dapper harness
per arrow
uncut umbra
now thats pretty cool
proper furnace
does zeus's special with aspect of chiron do lightning damage x number of arrows
Lightning has an internal cooldown of 0.2 secs, chiron special is too fast for it.
You only get 1-2 bolts
dapper harness
you learn smth new everyday ig
azure bloom
Yeah zeus shield on zeus is kinda op
beowulf shield +posi cast + posi cast modifier
Is insanely broken
You one shot meg
analog mauve
does zagspear special build count on lucking into charged skewer as 2nd hammer
proper furnace
Yeah
south sonnet
is bad news just free damage with stuff like drowning and beo
proper furnace
Yup
mellow karma
Any tips on builds for each weapon when fighting upgraded Hades?
uncut umbra
does swift strike from hermes affect charging speed of the bow
tight basin
only for standing strikes, not dash strikes
and you want to be dash striking with the bow, so swift strike from hermes is worthless
uncut umbra
okok thank u
lean hornet
If I can’t get clockets, and need to choose between cluster and rocket, which to I pick for eris
vagrant crane
rocket
uncut umbra
massive spin doesnt work guan yu right?
potent tree
It works
uncut umbra
oh mah gawd
halcyon vector
I know aspect of hades isn't that great but goddamn, massive spin and loads of arti really makes for a fun build
Quick spin also works well
primal cypress
For damage boosts which last a certain period of time, e.g. aspect of Eris or Zeus' Billowing Strength, does it apply when you start dealing damage or when you deal damage?
For example, if you use the Demeter cast, does the damage boost apply only if it was placed during the timer or if it deals damage during the timer?
proper furnace
For damage boosts which last a certain period of time, e.g. aspect of Eris or Ze...
During the timer
I mean 2nd one
primal cypress
Thank you.
vagrant crane
if the enemy has jolted they take damage when they attack
azure bloom
Oh
vagrant crane
after they attack jolted is removed
vagrant crane
no
azure bloom
or is it too many duos needed
azure bloom
Casting blades with Ares heroic basicallly two shot hades
vagrant crane
and slicing flare sucks
vagrant crane
achilles
eager flint
I always struggle with lernie's headbonk, especially the version that makes AOE rock falls with it. Any tips ?
The rest of the lernie fight is fine, but then it starts teleporting behind me while saying "nothing perssssonel kid", give itself a concussion and kill me because I blinked
potent tree
I try to look for his head rising up