h1-builds-and-combat

[serene rain]

i dont need ot note it

yes but i hate rama

[tight basin]

If this is for darkness farming I'd do zag bow start tdash

Or Chiron start tdash but that's a bit rough without having conc volley guaranteed

[serene rain]

not darkness farming just everything in general

[tight basin]

Fair then

[serene rain]

so ill probably skip on the Posseidon boon for Chiron since that build is op

okay

[tight basin]

It's fine for casual play just not high heat or speedrunning

[serene rain]

Fists Demeter->oh right it's the ME build

[serene rain]

for farming purposes mostly anyways

So that leaves the fun

gun*

oh we never did gun

[tight basin]

We did

[serene rain]

so for Gun

we did ?

[tight basin]

Eris doesn't start tdash

Hestia does

I guess

[serene rain]

Hestia->Tdash->any boon that has high percentage for the attack->Profit

[tight basin]

Any rarity aphro or epic Athena/Dem

[serene rain]

oh

[tight basin]

For special, any % modifier

[serene rain]

Hestia->Tdash->atk Any rare aphro or epic Athena/Dem-> Any% modifiers for Special

[tight basin]

Rare Dem/Athena work fine but it's kinda eh considering Aphrodite is just good lmao

[serene rain]

okay i believe taht is it

[tight basin]

Also

[serene rain]

true

[tight basin]

If you get really good chaos atk/dstrike boons on hestia

Such that it's over 110% total or something roughly

Artemis strike is an option

Any rarity because you're taking it for the crit

[serene rain]

?

artmeis Strike ?

[tight basin]

Atk

All atk boons are labeled as ___ strike lol

[serene rain]

oh yea okay true

true

okay i see

okay cool

[tight basin]

But arty strike is pretty niche if it does happen

[serene rain]

and the bow if i go for posseidon start ?

[tight basin]

Zag bow tdash

Or Chiron I guess but it's a bit rough

Chiron is harder to pull off without guaranteed concentrated volley

[serene rain]

Zag bow tdash

just the tdash ???

[tight basin]

Well you'd start tdash

And then the same atk rule from hestia applies here

[serene rain]

Zag bow->Tdash->Same Hestia rule for ATK->Don't grab triple shot with tidal dash

[tight basin]

Except that you don't necessarily need to get the chaos additives to use arty atk I don't think

Because you'd have a base 30% crit chance? Idk about this idea tbh

[proper furnace]

Just dont grab triple shot with tidal dash

[tight basin]

But you'd probably need some chaos additive but not 100% more to make use of arty atk probably

Oh yeah triple shot tdash would suck lol

Would you start Dem cast

[serene rain]

okay is that all ?

[tight basin]

Probably

[serene rain]

thank you for helping me ill go grind now yaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[proper furnace]

Have fun

[tight basin]

What choices

[serene rain]

thanks !!!!!

[proper furnace]

Remember to check the broker for any dsrkness trade

[tight basin]

I meant hammer

Fair

If you take pos now, Dem will prob show up next so that's fine

The only issue here is that you might get mirage but not crystal clarity

So just take Dem if you're afraidnod that

Yeah

[proper furnace]

Also may i ask why dem cast?

Just treat it like a long dash

Also i wouldnt call beams safe till you get glaciar glare

Or extra casts for the matter

If you are betting on glaciar glare yeah

[kind pilot]

Aspect of Gilgamesh.. holy baloney. It wrecks

[proper furnace]

That thing pommed + stygian is funny

You can have like 6+ beams with 1-2 casts

Yuuup

Might as well see where it takes you

Tho im not team beams

Then reset for Cskewer

[tight basin]

Mod it out of the game

[proper furnace]

Or mod game and enjoy spear with good hammers

[tight basin]

True

I did cskewer spam three times before clearing with Achilles

[proper furnace]

Couldnt you try going lightning phalanx?

As long you get quick reload should be as safe and have to play as minimum of spear required

Is like zeus cast but good

And safe

Cuz funny giant reflect hitbox

Yeah

You also get to open the dds boons asap so nice

Hammer unless you wanna throw your hp early for a possible dd

Spear momenr

Might as well take quick for the in between waves

Unless is massive and the other spin one thst does that pulse

Have fun with that choice

Would've done the same

Tho rip flurry this run lol

[serene rain]

Wait for sword is it
Any attack or
Highest percentage ?

Artmis too probably

[proper furnace]

Not sure tbh

[kind pilot]

doesn't concern me with damage like that

[proper furnace]

Is decent dmg with spins but idk if you wanna open rod later

If quick reload doesnt appear rod sounds like a plan tbh

Or make a weird build into smair

Honestly your choice

I would cuz i love Rod at least

Also consider how well you are at achilles/hp levels of comfort

[cunning urchin]

What's your build now?

Just that?

Aspect?

What is she offering besides Exit Wounds?

Attack sounds good. Deadly Reversal is nice on Phalanx Shot.

I mean purging Deadly Strike is fine if you have to.

[serene rain]

This game harder without god mode at 80%

[cunning urchin]

Who knew.

[upper monolith]

[cunning urchin]

Almost like having effectively 5x as much HP makes things easier.

[serene rain]

True

But hey

At least I'm playing the real game in a way

[plain river]

is using god mode not still playing Hades?

you're just taking a handicap

[serene rain]

Yea true just using easy mode

It kindz got bugged on the file...gf won't like it lol

[cunning urchin]

It's still the real game if you turn on god mode. But if you're having fun now without it, that's good.

[serene rain]

I am ! I'm scared for my gf tho...she might have a HARDER time :/

[cunning urchin]

You can ask for help with that in #h1-tech-support.

[serene rain]

Already did

And everyone is speechless

I verified file and all is good

[cunning urchin]

Well, Swan is def gonna help you do more troubleshooting.

[plain river]

How is it bugged?

Does it just not work or something?

[serene rain]

I never activated hell mode and now it just says
"You can't activate god mode in hell mode'

[neon terrace]

What's the highest heat and the fastest time ever achieved in lambent plume runs?

[lucid oar]

lambent plume all the way?

uhh

on modded igt probably a low 6, i dont think any zag sword sub 6es went plume all the way

heat, i have no idea

probably 50?

[serene rain]

okay the Fist build wont work if i dont upgrade those fists

[proper furnace]

What build you doing

Dash only gilga?

[serene rain]

demeter fist we talked about

[proper furnace]

Oh ME

[serene rain]

or I just suck at it

i got

lightning when you get the uh...water effect (On cast) doom thingy on cast AND merciful end

still died

i was lacking damage or I was just not used to it

little problem...

[proper furnace]

Sea storm and curse of drowning ig?

Did you have divine dash with ME?

[serene rain]

i had the uppercut

[proper furnace]

You want the dash

[serene rain]

oh...didn't know that

[proper furnace]

So you can just dash strike and proc doom with the same dash

Special is needed cuz dash doesnt open ME

[serene rain]

then on special i put ?

i guess Zeus or the water thing idk

[proper furnace]

You still need athena special

Otherwise you cant get ME

[serene rain]

oh...oki i see

[proper furnace]

Once you get ME then you focus on getting dash-impending doom

But if you wanna have more dps pre dash do a dash strike then hit special rigth after, you'll do both a dash strike then a dash special

Faster than letting Doom proc by itself

[serene rain]

oh oki oki

[proper furnace]

Also avoid taking most casts as they will open other duos and make ME even harder to get

[serene rain]

yea it is usually impossible to get but i got it pretty fast

[proper furnace]

Some casts that are ok are like zeus-athena

And if you have ME already getting true shot (artemis) for athena-artemis duo also works

[serene rain]

question rn i am doing sword, i just got ares on taking damage equals doom, which god should I go for on the attack ?

(Nemesis Blade) do i go for Artemis ?

[proper furnace]

Always a good option

Csn then take aphro special for heart rend

[serene rain]

csn ?

(I also got double edge)

[proper furnace]

Can

Just a typo

[serene rain]

oh oki

then yea I'll do that ye

[proper furnace]

For dash you can take hunter dash for straight dmg, tidal for more aoe or divine for plain safety

[serene rain]

i already got tidal dash, it's posseidon build

is Hermes counted in the +%% from the family ?

[proper furnace]

Ye

[serene rain]

cool

okay yea uh the heat 10 hurts i'll try the 7 instead

[tight basin]

jumping straight to fo2 is a lot lmao

[serene rain]

i did 3 easily on sword with 14 minutes to spear

[plain river]

Fo2 is something you adjust to and then never turn off again tbf

[tight basin]

yeah

[serene rain]

hmm

on bow for a first ill go for FO1

btw i use the Give Up exploit a lot

[plain river]

Give Up exploit?

[serene rain]

basically If i dont get good stuff i give up and restart i get the same thing's at the start but different start behind it

it doesn't reset the Streak too

[plain river]

yeah giving up puts you back to before you entered the run

It’s not an exploit

[serene rain]

it changes boons tho

[plain river]

No it doesn’t

[serene rain]

okay then what about the first boon ?

[plain river]

It gives you the same seed
The only thing that’ll change it is you

[serene rain]

if you change god it gives you the same attacks but for x god

[plain river]

…

[serene rain]

oh sorry

[plain river]

Multiple things alter the seed

Breaking different numbers of pots

Casting

Summoning

[serene rain]

for Zag bow run with posseidon Tdash is there a good special cus i am sitting on a Divine Flourish rn

[plain river]

Aphrodite, artemis, or athena would all be good based on what you have on strike

[lucid oar]

you dont really use the special on non chiron/rama bow

[serene rain]

true but to deflect stuff Divine Flourish could be decent

but yea I wanna grab the epic rerolled twice didn't get the epic attack so i'll hope to god i get either Aphro or Demeter

[plain river]

If you have artemis on strike, aphrodite for heart rend or athena for deadly reversal would be good
If you have athena or aphro on strike, arte for the same reasons

[serene rain]

yea true

i think i'll go for deadly reversal

[lucid oar]

yeah best to use it to open up a duo boon

[serene rain]

i have no strike rn so

[tight basin]

they have tdash tho

and like

you can't really reflect or apply weak that great if you're using it on the special

[plain river]

weaken off special is decent enough application
Deflect… yeah I agree

[serene rain]

so in the end who do I put on my Strike ?

Arte or Aphro ?

[plain river]

Artemis or Aphrodite, and consider athena or demeter if you’re coping from not finding them

[serene rain]

i already got Athena

i can just take the trinket

[plain river]

You can just take trinket

[serene rain]

ill go for Aphro I guess

[plain river]

I like artemis on zag bow strike more then I like aphrodite on zag bows strike but kind of personal preference

[serene rain]

idk im getting used to this farming i used to go and get like...1000 jewels per run but now I barely get anny

[tight basin]

how long does weak last

like 4 seconds?

yeah 4 secs

i guess you can maybe get 2 or 3 shots in and perhaps crit

[plain river]

4 seconds but it can be increased

[tight basin]

weird rotation tho of special -> dstrike however much -> repeat

[plain river]

fair enough

[neon terrace]

ik zag bow is a great weapon objectively but ngl it kight be my least favorite zag aspect

next to zag spear

[tight basin]

yeah but then you enter "ME rng" territory where you need a supporting boon with a duo for it to be good

[serene rain]

i think ima just kill myself in lava lol

[serene rain]

my least favorite is the gun one

[plain river]

Zag bow is like one of the best zag aspects

Zag rail is fun if you find spreadfire or just build it like discount eris

[tight basin]

rail, bow, and shield are like the only good ones that actually increase dps lmao

[neon terrace]

zag bow is just painful af to use with damage control and the special is super ass

[tight basin]

fists, spear, and sword dont do anything much regarding dps

[tight basin]

well dont take dc with zag bow?

and dont use the special?

[plain river]

Ok but DC is incredibly high heat take anyways

[neon terrace]

zag fist with lambent plume and ruthless reflex is my favorite build in the game tbh, that was my first EM4 on 40 heat

[neon terrace]

i have never beaten incredibly high heat

[tight basin]

dc is taken at like 45 minimum

and even then you can still avoid it

[neon terrace]

and my sword clear on 40 heat was zag sword with ruthless and lambent plume

[neon terrace]

i always take it unless Im actively trying to up my clear time

[plain river]

It’s one of the ones that increases enemy survivability and so it bad

Imo

[tight basin]

well dont always take it lmao use other pacts

[neon terrace]

it's better than most pacts wdym

[tight basin]

depending on the aspect it's fine to take, like rama, zeus, fists, nonhesty rail

[plain river]

DC is like actively shooting yourself in the foot by letting every enemy tank an extra hit or 2 from you

[neon terrace]

and anyway im just trying to do 50 heat rn so I cant not take it

[neon terrace]

it's really not that bad

[tight basin]

i mean you can avoid it

[plain river]

It makes clear times go up and makes every enemy have more chances to hit you

[lucid oar]

50 heat with what

zag bow?

[neon terrace]

the only annoying thing about it is when I Meg the Champions, but usually I can hit them twice before they start moving so it still isnt an issue

[neon terrace]

no lol Im only using Rama, Eris, and Zeus

[lucid oar]

ah right

[tight basin]

those are fine with dc

[lucid oar]

tbh those are the 3 that handle it fine

[tight basin]

a bit sad on rama since you can't one shot an enemy as soon as they spawn but eh

not necessary

[neon terrace]

pretty much everything besides zag bow, hera, and hestia are fine with dc

[lucid oar]

arthur

beo

[neon terrace]

zag bow and hestia are two of my least used aspects so i dont mind them being not as good with dc

[tight basin]

i mean it is fine and doable, it's just a pain and some would rather just not take dc

[neon terrace]

ah yeah beo too mb

[tight basin]

beo can handle dc1

either that or im just incredibly stupid and lucky for it to work twice lmao

[neon terrace]

does the cast hit from beo's dragon rush count as the first hit or second?

[tight basin]

second if the dragon rush hits

if the dragon rush doesnt then it's first hit

[plain river]

Literally giving every enemy 1 or 2 acorn uses for free

[tight basin]

but also you can dstrike in, charge, and release since the dstrike damage is basically negligible anyways

idk i did fine lmao

[neon terrace]

if u have flood flare on beo and u dragon rush, and the rush doesnt directly hit an enemy but the flood flare's aoe does, then would it still go through dc1?

[tight basin]

no it takes off the dc heart

[neon terrace]

ngl ever since i learned how to use zeus and got accustomed to it, i almost never use beo anymore

[tight basin]

i learned both and zeus is just pain because i can never get good zeus supporting boons

[plain river]

I don’t think I’ve learned zeus well enough

Beo either

[tight basin]

beo just needs passion flare + either snurst, frost strike, or mistral dash

for high heat anyways

[neon terrace]

beo is just really annoying to use for me honestly, the attack and dash strikes are so rigid and slow, the special is awful, even movement with it feels weird and less free than usual. i kinda wanna learn how to use it but it just isnt worth anymore

[tight basin]

i mean yeah the special is awful dont use it lmao

and yeah the dragon rush on beo doesnt feel great unless you get cshot or sudden rush

[plain river]

Same can be said for regular shield special

[tight basin]

also true

[plain river]

Beowulf special is practically regular shield special and so is bad for the same reasons

[tight basin]

funny how charged flight got nerfed because of beo tho

[neon terrace]

eh zag shield special is decent and at least usable since it's quick, it's ok to apply weak or doom with too. but the zag shield's bull rush and everything also feel good even without hammers

[neon terrace]

sorta but bigger and clunkier

feels slower to me too though i might just be imagining that

[tight basin]

it is def slower

[plain river]

Takes too long and removes your biggest dps and defence tool

[tight basin]

i only ever use it for sniping witches from far

in tart

but like

never use shield special

unless it's zeus

also tbh beo is pretty easy to learn

you'd play it the same with hera except you dont have to aim as much

and you get your casts back immediately against bosses

unless you wall bug them

but you cant wall bug lernie

i guess you can 1shot the phase so you get the stones back before the other heads spawn in tho

[plain river]

Beowulf so cracked that abyssal blood is viable on it

[tight basin]

true

[neon terrace]

I used Abyssal Blood on my 32 heat bow clear, prob would suck if I tried to use it higher than that though

[neon terrace]

i can use it with charged shot, without charged shot it's super annoying to control for me and just feels slow all around. it's like a weird juxtaposition where it's a super slow weapon in every way but it does so much damage with the right stuff that it can clear really fast

[lucid oar]

no hit furies at 55 heat pog

[plain river]

Swap the W and Q keys on your keyboard

I know 🧠

[neon terrace]

I cant even beat 50 heat and occasionally lose to the Furies or Lernie and this mf's out here doing bosses hitless on 55 wtf

she isnt human

she did like 57 heat on guan yu

[plain river]

Oh really

But gamers out there somewhere could be that good

[neon terrace]

they could, they also wouldnt be human

[plain river]

humans out there somewhere could be that good

[tight basin]

I almost did alecto hitless with Zeus at 50 lmao

[neon terrace]

i didnt mean shes literally an ai or something lmao

just inhumanly good

[neon terrace]

Me too but the singular hit I took was from her beyblade and I had RI2 on so it took out like half my HP

[tight basin]

oh lmfao

wait

ri2 at 50?

[plain river]

I will quote you yourself against you

[tight basin]

i didn't touch ri at 50

what's your pact

because this could solve a lot of problems tbh

[neon terrace]

Im not that fast with Zeus or Rama so I try to avoid JS3, but I did go back to RI1 after that

Rn I have HL5, LC4, CF2, JS1, EM4 (would rather avoid it but AP2 is insufferable), CP1, BF2, MM, UC, FO2, RI1, DC2, AP1, and TD3

I avoid HS too bc a spike trap or two just destroys my health bar, and the magma in Asphodel is super annoying on small rooms and EM2

[tight basin]

have you tried js3 with either zeus or rama before

because rama can handle it decently imo

zeus not so much but it's possible

also hs is just something that you should take tbh

yeah it's 1 heat, but 1 heat off of cf, js, or cp can make a big difference

learn to not hit traps or magma lmao

i do get that getting hit by a pot during dad fight is an instant SD loss or straight up death, but at that point you're gonna have to assume you're gonna get there to deal with it

[neon terrace]

I should do JS3 on Rama tbh, the bow's just my worst weapon in general though. Like if it weren't for Rama I'd almost never use the bow. My fastest bow clear was with Hera but it was like 11:50, not even good.

I'm a Fists main so without Long Knuckle I'm used to just getting up in Lernie's face, that's why I hate magma lmao

Esp those smaller Asphodel rooms where there's already so little land and then magma also gets spit out

[fringe jacinth]

is there anything besides chaos egg thatll give you a better chance of getting chaos legendary? its the last thing i need for the achievement and i havent been able to get it, so annoying

[neon terrace]

I should take Poimt Blank Shot over Relentless Volely for Rama right? I have Thunder Flourish though

[lucid oar]

gods legacy and chaos favour boons (increased rarity chance)

yeah

[cunning urchin]

Nah, it's actually somewhat underrated. Abyssal Blood can be very strong defensively when combined with Weak and Chill especially. Just, TD3 is often an issue at higher heats, and so you'd take any bonus damage that you can get.

And speedruns only care for DPS anyway.

[neon terrace]

The problem is it only applies to one foe at a time. I typically just use Stygian Soul anyway since Boiling Blood doesnt stack and Im not tryna run around picking up my bloodstones or open up Lightning Rod needlessly

[cunning urchin]

Boiling Blood also applies to only one foe lol. You take Abyssal Blood for bosses if you do take it.

Opening up Lightning Rod is good. It's a great boon.

Infernal can help speed up your runs on a lot of aspects. But it's not easy to learn to use your Casts efficiently in your rotations.

[plain river]

Imagine having to wait 3 whole seconds to rng manip again
Infernal superiority

[cunning urchin]

Like for example... If I can't one-shot a Lout with Zag Bow, I can probably kill it with Cast > Dash-Strike or the other way around. That's a lot faster than doing two Dash-Strikes. And I'll save time on every Lout that way until I get a hammer like Twin or some poms on my Attack or maybe Hunter Dash or Tidal Dash.

[cunning urchin]

Just press summon.

[twin cloak]

it's fine

some aspects cope well with RI2

[tight basin]

fair but also sounds like pain

[cunning urchin]

Well.

It's 50 Heat.

[neon terrace]

Yes but they serve different purposes. Abyssal isnt great bc if you're getting damage resist/slowing down enemies you want it to be something u can apply to several at a time, not just 1-3. It can be good for bosses but the extra damage is better, and Boiling Blood is better for general room clearing

[plain river]

Sometimes you don’t need the extra boiling blood damage

[neon terrace]

it's good but never something I'd ever want to actively go for unless I'm building for it, with fully loaded and a bunch of zeus tier 2s. for any normal zeus run i'd always much rather splitting bolt/sea storm/smoldering air

[plain river]

Ie: castpects

[cunning urchin]

Lightning Rod > Sea Storm

If you don't want Lightning Rod, don't get it. Your loss.

[neon terrace]

Hell nah

[plain river]

👍

[cunning urchin]

Sea Storm is only for meme builds anymore or maybe Chiron.

[plain river]

Can’t believe you listed smair last out of smair, splitting bolt and sea storm

[cunning urchin]

Tidal Dash no longer being a prerequisite kinda killed Sea Storm.

[tight basin]

you never really try to get sea storm unless you just happened to get offered some pos core and you dont really need anything else from pos

[turbid needle]

I always favour divine dash over splash dash cos I'm really really good at taking damage

[plain river]

They’re both good

[cunning urchin]

You'll be better at not taking damage if there ain't no enemies to hit you.

[turbid needle]

true

but for bosses and tanky enemies

is rly nice

and safe

[plain river]

Not really

[cunning urchin]

Yeah, just phase the bosses.

[plain river]

Not many bosses are bullet hells for divine dash to revel in

[turbid needle]

em2 lernie

sometimes

is bullet hell

[plain river]

I use em2 fo2 and I can’t remember the last time I actually thought of it as a bullet hell

[cunning urchin]

Divine Dash is comfy for EM3 Asterius most of all, I'd say.

[turbid needle]

actually very true

[cunning urchin]

Assuming you have enough damage without a stronger Dash.

[turbid needle]

I appreciate splash dash but divine dash is for my safety

[plain river]

Safety doesn’t matter if you win /s

[turbid needle]

just don't get hit

easy

[neon terrace]

it wasnt a ranking lmao

sea storm can be tough to get but it absolutely wrecks on pretty much any weapon that uses both the attack and special

[neon terrace]

eh sometimes if u get small rooms with tons of witches that have the benefits packages which give them huge hp bsrs, spawn ghosts, and make their attacks chase you around, it can feel a bit like one

[cunning urchin]

Hmmmm no.

No idea what meta you're playing.

[valid dagger]

Sea storm gud on Chiron

That’s basically it

[acoustic vale]

Sea storm good on the secret 10th class of tf2

[turbid needle]

real

[serene rain]

Wow uh

Em2 fo2 and td1 is very hard i need to practice fo1 i think

[small magnet]

what do i want on adamant rail?

[cunning urchin]

Ideally, all of your boons are pink and you have all pink boons.

When doing boonless, that's true. Good thinking.

[small magnet]

the basic one

[cunning urchin]

tdash = Tidal Dash

You wanna start Lightning Strike and look for Static Discharge (i.e., "Jolted") from him and Tidal Dash from Poseidon first and foremost. Lots of poms on Static Discharge and Tidal Dash. If you don't find Tidal Dash in Tartarus, you take his keepsake into Asphodel. If you already have Tidal Dash, you take Lady Aphrodite's or Lady Artemis's keepsake for their respective Special boon.

If you find either of their Special boons in Tartarus, naturally you pick them up there.

If it's somebody else's % Special, probably only wanna pick it up if it's high rarity.

Probably wanna avoid Tempest Flourish because it'll make your Special separate the enemies, but you want to group them up instead so that you can finish them off with Attack + Tidal Dash.

[twin cloak]

sea storm is decent at best

not anything you ever play for

[lucid oar]

Imagine telling someone pre 1.37 that lightning rod is more meta than sea storm in current speedrun meta

I wonder if all the rod hate came from Haelian

[small magnet]

thx, first try with that gun and won

[serene rain]

i think people will hate me

First Try Merciful End

[serene rain]

quick question

is it better for Undamaged foes or more damage when Backstab ?

[lucid oar]

Depends on the weapon and what you’re trying to do/struggling with

[serene rain]

usually it seems to be damage if it aint the gun or the bow

either way been grinding all day long still missing

68 Titan Blood

ugh...

i see

oh you mean at the end ?

i was at like 80 titan blood this morning

nono

that is the total NEEDED for maxing every weapon

technically missing +20 cus of the titles and the theme

[tight basin]

Who in their right mind sits at 80 titan blood if they don't have maxed aspects

[serene rain]

...

i don't have the 80

I need 68 rn to max out EVERY aspect

this morning i was missing 80 now i am missing 68

67 now

I've cleared em2 fo2 and td1 with every weapon except gun and sword

Getting used to it is hard tho

[thorn tendon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/989083298099785730/1061049794186969128/image.png?width=1245&height=700

kinda damage

[tight basin]

achilles at home

[plain river]

Once you do get used to it though you should be good to never turn them off again because em2 and fo2 both benefit the player in their own ways

[serene rain]

Ye I'm already used to it roughly

[serene rain]

so if i want to continue farming but keep upping the hea with the EM2 FO2 TD1 etc..

do i just add other stuff to it ?

[valid dagger]

You can add other stuff to it but your runs wont be as fast

[serene rain]

i mean

[valid dagger]

Or just add more TD

[serene rain]

TD2 doesn't seem baaaaaaaaad

[valid dagger]

Yea

You’ll get used to it in a couple of runs

Then TD3

[serene rain]

heightened security

just dont be a dumb dumb and step on the traps and magma

[valid dagger]

That’s one of the worse ones but fair ig

It just takes practice, like most things in this game

[serene rain]

wdym ?

isnt like the ennemies do more damage

worst ?

[valid dagger]

HS is a very punishing pact, you’ll be surprised how much damage you take from traps. Also the pots in the hades fight count as traps so they’ll do 150

[serene rain]

oh

[valid dagger]

And no, Hard Labor is far from the worst pact

[serene rain]

oki

i guess i'll add up that then

[valid dagger]

The worst standalone pact would probably be Routine Inspection or Approval Process maybe

Or Calisthenics Program

[serene rain]

true

[valid dagger]

You can check the heat progression chart in #h1-high-heat-strategies pins

It’s a good place to start

[serene rain]

oki thank you

[serene rain]

i mean yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa but like it removes the FO2

why -6 ?

oh trueeeeeeeeeeeee

so like i add middle management ?

[plain river]

One of the cheaper ones

[serene rain]

I.E my bow is at 11 so this means i go look at the 5 heat thing ?

yea probably what i'll do

[woeful jackal]

i've created something rather stupid and hilarious

poseidon knockback dash plus wall slam explosion plus hermes extra dash

[small magnet]

what else do i need for a Gilgamesh tdash build?

[plain river]

Poms

Hyper sprint -> rush delivery or greatest reflex

[small magnet]

alright, anything else from Poseidon or a duo boon that works?

[tight basin]

Sea storm if you get another Poseidon core and zeus

Shoals from Poseidon

[plain river]

Imo ideally it would be like lightning strike, heartbreak flourish, floodshot, tidal dash, zeus aid, smair and sea storm

But uh

That’s a lot to ask for

[neon terrace]

I avoid using maim on gilgamesh personally bc the extra damage u take is too dangerous. but tempest flourish is ok since it has knockback, and triggers sea storm

although tdash also does both of those anyway on dash upper ig

[plain river]

Tdash doesn’t open up sea storm thougg

[neon terrace]

yeah ik

the person was asking for a tdash build

[plain river]

Posspecial is kinda cope

[neon terrace]

tempest flourish does open up sea storm though so u can forego flood shot

[plain river]

Also heartbreak flourish is both a bigger +% and does slightly offset the downsides of maim

I meant flourish

Not strike

My bad

[neon terrace]

how often do u really go for maim anyway? the knockback makes it slightly less dangerous

[plain river]

The heartbreak flourish also makes it less dangerous

[neon terrace]

epic tempest flourish has p good % though

[plain river]

Epic heartbreak flourish has better +%

[neon terrace]

if i have to wait for the maim damage anyway id rather knock them back and be able to attack something else than just try to offfset the extra damage u take by applying weakz esp since it doesnt last very long without the tier 2 that extends it

[plain river]

weaken will last for the full maim duration

And take you from taking 1.5 times the damage to only 1.05 times the damage

[plain river]

• if you don’t increase it through other boons

Plus you can get sweet surrener for even more global additive off your dspecial

[tight basin]

oh i was under the impression this was a dash only build

[twin prawn]

nemesis blade build?

[rotund canopy]

Artemis on attack, Aphrodite on special, look for Heart Rend duo boon. Slap double edge hammer and artemis dash on that bad boy, add a chaos boon for dash strikes. Stack Artemis boons and 1v1 build battle hades for the victory royale, gg wp

Start with Artemis keepsake in Tart, take Aphro keepsake in Aspho if you didnt get her in Tart.

[twin prawn]

i see

[twin prawn]

Is there any alternative? I was thinking an artemis based crit build

Probably with attack speed buffs from hermes

[small magnet]

well u can do exactly that build and then roll when u get hermes anyway

[valid dagger]

Attack speed doesn’t apply to dash strikes

[cunning urchin]

Nemesis Guide: #h1-for-new-players message

[craggy walrus]

That literally is an Artemis based crit build?

[twin prawn]

Ah crap i misred lol

Misred it as ares

[turbid needle]

Best build for Beowulf? Just got the shield and thought that Poseidon would have been a good build but just got decimated in Elysium 😥

[valid dagger]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H7EOP28oyu6t8KrBEfnrN-dQc6H_ssvAyYz3C1O2JOI/edit?usp=sharing Check out the build here

[turbid needle]

Ooooh thank you @valid dagger

[valid dagger]

In short it's Flood Flare + Deadly Strike -> Mirage Shot.
Mirage Shot is bugged on Flares to do 100% on the second cast instead 30% so you want to go for it at this point. The guide will further explain how to optimize the build and get more damage to scale further.

@serene rain If you want a legit answer it's alot of practice and knowledge combined with some good rng

It's also like over 600 attempts or so

[serene rain]

Okay i see

[lucid oar]

600 attempts for just that grind? Or total after the 5:10?

[valid dagger]

I think I wiped the file after I got 32 wr so 5:5x -> 5:45 -> 5:29 -> 5:10 -> 4:58 was around 600 attempts give or take

[lucid oar]

Dang gg

Did you just not sheet farm at all lol

[valid dagger]

Not really

I got sub5 before 20 sub6s so I just pushed for 20 which was like 3 more or something

I kill a lot of runs

I wouldnt keep a 4:2x+ Ely exit

Unless it had some potential to split pb like massive damage

[lucid oar]

Would you keep a 1:56 tart with epic curse of agony

[valid dagger]

No

I kept a run with curse of agony

But it was 1:26 Tart lol

[lucid oar]

Lmao

[valid dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/903215986642145320/1006119024364634224/Hades_fFMvZbozH9.png

126 / 249 / 438 ...

[lucid oar]

I vaguely remember this

[valid dagger]

It's colorful

Rn I'd probably keep sub6able runs with good damage because my styx split on the sheet is garbage

[lucid oar]

I literally have 1 good styx ever

Maybe 2 if you count the tiny vermin one

[valid dagger]

They are rare

When I watched my 57s styxdad I was like damn that's a perfect Styx but nope that was 33 seconds

Which is still great but like that's 4 seconds off

[lucid oar]

I get 38s styx and feel like it was decent

[valid dagger]

Yea you dont have to get rats it's just long tunnel + bad miniboss and sometimes you whiff a volley and that does it

[lucid oar]

Or no movement speed lol

[valid dagger]

dashing to cerberus

[opal urchin]

which spear aspect do y’all use?? trying to get 16 heat with each weapon 💪

[plain river]

Achilles generally seen as the best one

[cunning urchin]

Whatever I feel like at the time.

[plain river]

But honestly just whichever you want

[cunning urchin]

Zag Spear kinda just bad Achilles.

Unless you start Exploding Launcher hammer. Then it actually has its own identity. But you don't know if you're going to get that before you start the run.

[plain river]

Hades spear kinda just gy with rng

[cunning urchin]

Hmmm nah pretty different.

[plain river]

Fair

[cunning urchin]

Frost Ripper not getting corrected by me challenge:

[plain river]

Impossible

[cunning urchin]

No, actually you're...

[plain river]

True!

[ashen shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053536636572532766/1061429710539730995/image.png going into asph, what keepsake should I take?

neither do i!

honestly half the boons I take are "I can sell this"

[tight basin]

this is why we dont start ddash

[ashen shoal]

I've never done anything higher than 8 heat before don't judge me

[tight basin]

hm

i'd take ares

maybe get curse of nausea

[ashen shoal]

I'm playing it safe due to. first time @ 16 heat.

[tight basin]

try and get as many poms as you can on the atk i guess

[ashen shoal]

dio, yes?

[tight basin]

no

ares keepsake

dio and ares duo

you dont take dio here because i'm pretty sure you can get calc risk duo with athena

[ashen shoal]

gtk, thank you!

[tight basin]

achilles doesnt boost the hangover damage tho

[plain river]

this is truly a build of all time

[tight basin]

i guess zeus keepsake would've been good i guess

more zeus boons

why not

[ashen shoal]

welp I already took ares and I'm two chambers in so

I'm still alive and I'm not endlessly frustrated so I'm chilling

[tight basin]

i mean either works tbh

this is prob more consistent i think because your next zeus boon has a pretty good chance of giving jolted anyways

and frankly that's all that matters mostly

at least for zeus cast

[ashen shoal]

I don't like zeus for no reason at all other than hes an a-hole so I tend not to use his keepsake

[tight basin]

lmao fair

[ashen shoal]

I just realised my mirror is screwed up dangit 😭 I was running low heat so I changed it to the darkness regains you health one and forgot to change it back

im literally so good at this game

wdym?

[plain river]

tbh there really isn't a point to swap cthonic vitality off

[plain river]

godmode

[ashen shoal]

oh I'm planning to turn it off... eventually

I'm not great at video games lmao

[tight basin]

just let them use god mode lol

[ashen shoal]

bc its fun

[plain river]

you are increasing the difficulty but keeping the training wheels on

[ashen shoal]

don't question my Impeccable Decision-Making

[tight basin]

32 heat is training wheels for 40

[plain river]

rather then just... taking the training wheels off and then increasing difficulty afterwards

[ashen shoal]

got curse of nausea!

[tight basin]

gamer

[plain river]

gaming

[cunning urchin]

Purge Special and Dash, take Conch Shell, get Tidal Dash. Get poms on Dash and Attack.

[ashen shoal]

yeah I'm a run past that but thanks! will keep in mind for a future :)

[cunning urchin]

Divine Dash start on Achilles isn't playing it safe tbh, it's just not having a build.

[cunning urchin]

Yeah, just giving advice for the future and also anyone else who reads.

[placid spindle]

are yall hardcore and elitist that way sheesh

[tight basin]

what

[cunning urchin]

Purging Special is because it hurts your chances of getting poms on Attack and Dash.

[tight basin]

how is helping someone with their run "hardcore and elitist"

[ashen shoal]

meta is a sometimes thing XD

[placid spindle]

"Divine Dash start on Achilles isn't playing it safe tbh, it's just not having a build."

forgot the devil UwU

[ashen shoal]

I asked for feedback and I got what i asked for lmao.

[tight basin]

i mean ddash is a safe dash, yes, but if you dont have a good build you wont have the dps to maintain safety

[placid spindle]

culture shock for me i guess

[tight basin]

you typically want to start with a keepsake that will help with your build

[ashen shoal]

this ain't any different from any other large video game server ngl. it's a bit of a learning curve lol

[tight basin]

ddash is generally just an add on that you slap on later if you 1) naturally see it or 2) force in asphodel because tartarus is easier

[ionic crown]

True

[cunning urchin]

Telling facts isn't hardcore or elitist.

[placid spindle]

UwU

don't mind me i'm just a filthy casual

[tight basin]

a filthy casual can use good run tips lmao

[ashen shoal]

.

[cunning urchin]

In the build advice channel.

[ashen shoal]

I am not unhappy whatsoever with the advice I recieved :)

[tight basin]

if you ask for build advice dont be upset when you're told "wtf are you doing lmao" because there is a very good chance that what you thought was a good idea is not a great idea at all

[placid spindle]

[ashen shoal]

on that note, 8 heat zeus sheild starting keepsake?

[tight basin]

zeus

[ashen shoal]

thanks LMAO

[cunning urchin]

Eternal Rose.

[tight basin]

dio if you dont like zeus

[ashen shoal]

zeus special?

[tight basin]

yes

[ionic crown]

zeus shield looks too giga brain for me

Like doing it well I mean

[tight basin]

dio is considerably worse than zeus, but you did say you hate seeing zeus because he's an asshat so dio is an option

[ashen shoal]

zeus/dio spesh aph attack?

[tight basin]

yeah

[ashen shoal]

coolsauce :)))))

[tight basin]

zeus is actually viable for reverse ME

[ashen shoal]

that sounds really fun actually

[ionic crown]

zoos special aphro attack either of their calls smair mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[tight basin]

idk gilga

because funni

chiron

do the luci pulses proc doom

[ashen shoal]

reverse is deflect special doom attack? or other way around

[tight basin]

other

doom atk is standard

[cunning urchin]

Zeus Aspect is flexible enough that you can make pretty much any god start work and get a decent build.

[ashen shoal]

thanks :)

[ionic crown]

God I wish

[tight basin]

when you do a proper ME build, you basically end up never using the special once ME is online unless it's like charged upper dem

[ionic crown]

for being the fastest god dude cannot appear in tartarus

[tight basin]

or a very specific break point that you know

[tight basin]

he can

in shop

[cunning urchin]

Only Croven can do that.

[ionic crown]

I mean naturally

[tight basin]

run 4

[ionic crown]

I’ve gotten shopmes enough times

[tight basin]

actually he doesnt show in at the start in run 4 sometimes apparently idk

i specifically remember hitting give up when the run was bad because of hermes start but eh

he exists i guess

[ashen shoal]

I think I might grab that mod that guarantees your first hammer so I can try clockets

can you do clockets on luci? I'm a hestia main and don't wanna invest in eris

[tight basin]

no

luci can't get either hammers

triple bomb on luci is kinda clockets tho

no it's not

but it's good

[ashen shoal]

dang. there goes my titans blood for the next zillion runs ig

[placid spindle]

rip

[tight basin]

did you just invest it

or was it a bit ago

[ashen shoal]

no I'm currently broke on titans blood

as in I just spent all of it leveling zeus and chiron and I currently have 1

[tight basin]

neat gimmick to get your TB back if you dont like the aspect, hitting give up in a run will send you back to the courtyard before you bought TB

[cunning urchin]

Just speedrun with those two aspects and get it back.

[tight basin]

or that

[placid spindle]

how does one gitgud at using the shield. i'm very new and increasing the heat very slowly and the slower pace of the shield is less my jam

[tight basin]

get charged shot

unironically

for zeus shield it's more complicated

[cunning urchin]

15 min RTA average and you'll have about 4 runs per hour.

[tight basin]

on average how fast is a 15 min rta for igt

would that be like, 11-13 minutes?

[cunning urchin]

Lol I remember when sub 15 RTA was crazy, and now there's 151 on the leaderboard.

[tight basin]

ody's fastest time was 18 minutes and they just got it now lmao i dont think they're gonna get a 15 min rta

[cunning urchin]

Lol no. RTA is like double of IGT at least usually when you reach low times lol.

[tight basin]

oh right

yeah they're not hitting a 15 min rta lmfao

[cunning urchin]

Slowest sub 15 RTA on the board is 8:21 IGT.

[cunning urchin]

I suppose start with learning some of the shield builds from this guide to give you some idea of how to get damage. https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-build-guide

[serene rain]

question

[ionic crown]

Answer

[serene rain]

Beowolf dash does Cast damage matter ?

[ionic crown]

what

cast damage does matter on the cast aspect yes

[serene rain]

cool

[placid spindle]

oooh nice! thanks 👁️ also, does it matter i play on console with aimassist?

[serene rain]

i mean upon putting my cast on the shield does it do cast damge upon release ?

[ionic crown]

Yes

It’s like aoe hera shots

[tight basin]

beo casts get turned into "flares" which does an aoe burst around you

[tight basin]

prob doesnt matter much

[serene rain]

yea

[tight basin]

a lot of top console players exist

for some aspects it'll be a pain

[ionic crown]

just test it on skelly and you’ll see the attack and the cast effect proc soon after

[tight basin]

but it's all very manageable

[placid spindle]

like?

for now, i mostly had issue when there were alot of enemies and iwanted to target a specific one (much shuffling)

[tight basin]

i heard lucifer triple bomb can suck, but that's from high heat runners and speedrunners so idk how well it'd translate to casual play

[placid spindle]

noooooooooooooooo

[ionic crown]

aim assist is toggleable in the options menu I think

[placid spindle]

my aim would still be poor with free aim but like

[tight basin]

from what i've seen from using rail with only auto aim, you have to get somewhat close and midrange-ish is the farthest you can get

[placid spindle]

i don't do much out of screen shots with aim assist

but it does target stuff

[tight basin]

oh yeah it aims at dad pots doesnt it

kinda pain

[placid spindle]

it does ;-;

[tight basin]

far range hestia or bow can make it not lock on

from what i've played

[placid spindle]

mmmh i see

[ashen shoal]

rng is screwing meeeeeee I ended up w athena cast instead of athena attack

[placid spindle]

f

[serene rain]

i just confirmed it it is an option

[ionic crown]

insert megamind image with humorous “no rolls?” Caption here

[tight basin]

which aspect

[ashen shoal]

I rolled and got the same options w different rarities :')

[ashen shoal]

zeus sheild

going for reverse ME

[tight basin]

oh rip

[ionic crown]

the legendary rarity rolling

but however

[tight basin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/839538570738139146/1061466466643361832/Pzz4y9djjIF2FJBwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg.png

[ionic crown]

Thanks

[trim sparrow]

I got a question. In order to get the final aspect for the spear do you have to put 5 into the second and third spear or can you level up the first sphere and get the other two?

[tight basin]

doesnt have to be spear

[ionic crown]

It’s just five titan blood in any aspects

[tight basin]

for spear, you just need to unlock any 5 non-zag aspects

[ionic crown]

not zag

ye

[tight basin]

oh invest 5 blood

okay that's more reasonable yeah

[trim sparrow]

Alr Ty

[ionic crown]

Where’s the funny

demeter gif

The nourished soul one

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/QQBmrZ8hstcZxjAybxwzwy7K9N3Hr4mz4XIAfrQ6x-Q/https/i.imgur.com/pFBSztd.mp4

[tight basin]

classic

[placid spindle]

til you can reroll those

oh the misery

[tight basin]

what

[placid spindle]

listen

[tight basin]

you can reroll like everything that gives you options except hammers

[placid spindle]

i got the game on dec 26

[tight basin]

oh lmao i was not aware

fair enough then

[placid spindle]

i can't xD

going blind 90% of the time

[ionic crown]

we should be able to roll hammers tbh

[placid spindle]

good grace 😭

[plain river]

Just like erebus should give hammers that have 4 or 5 options

[tight basin]

fated persuasion at the end of the mirror will let you

[plain river]

It’s superior to fated authority

[placid spindle]

ohhhh i only remembered the charon part of the sentence

[plain river]

?

Bruh that would be so underwhelming

[placid spindle]

i read too fast and thought it only applied to well of charon

[tight basin]

oh lmfao

[placid spindle]

[cunning urchin]

At least 1 boon will always be different when you reroll. That's guaranteed.

[ashen shoal]

mm I was wrong then. nothing that was useful anyhow

[cunning urchin]

Yeah, they made sure to make it guaranteed after user feedback in early access.

[cunning urchin]

You can reroll hammers by dying and starting a new run.

Unmodded speedrun life.

[placid spindle]

dumb question. would you be in favor or disfavor or being able to re-spec titan blood?

(at a cost of course)

[tight basin]

Would depend on what it'd cost tbh

But it's a good idea

[placid spindle]

i mean...the mirror is a game changer and can be reset. so i'm thinking why not

idk what cost would be reasonable to re-spec that much more valuable resource

[cunning urchin]

Respeccing Titan Blood for too cheap would just allow you to use all of the aspects at max level once you have.

Maybe if you only get like half of the Titan Blood you invested back, needs to be a very high cost like that.

[placid spindle]

like 5 diamonds or 8 ?

[cunning urchin]

Nah, not Diamonds.

[placid spindle]

lots of keys or nectar?

[tight basin]

Getting a fraction of the TB back sounds fair tbh

Either that or like idk

10 ambrosia

[placid spindle]

for which reason not diamonds? i can see many reasons why not but i am curious

[twin prawn]

but
but
what about the streak 🐟

[cunning urchin]

Diamonds and Ambrosia are needed for story things, so I don't think that's a good idea. High Titan Blood cost is directly related to weapon upgrades.

[placid spindle]

it's also them being in limited amounts while being used for other important purposes

[twin prawn]

ive been trading out most of my ambrosia for titan blood so far
just because my only companion is the skelly dummy and i dont think ill need more than 1

[placid spindle]

granted, high heat players can have way more diamonds than the avreage joe

[cunning urchin]

They're all infinite resources really.

Bounties only go up to 20 Heat, so high heat has nothing to do with it.

[twin prawn]

they should give us image perms here in this channel
i dont really see why not

[placid spindle]

ah ohwell

[cunning urchin]

It allows for more file uploads than just images. We can just use image embeds, though.

It's been brought up many times anyway, and the devs evidently don't want it.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[twin prawn]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[placid spindle]

[cunning urchin]

One of these is not like the others.

Sus.

[twin prawn]

among us

[placid spindle]

[ashen shoal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1053536636572532766/1061487887939555439/image.png?width=755&height=425 damn dio really wants me to heal

[trim sparrow]

Do you have to hold a certain spear when talking to Achilles to get the waking phrase?

[cunning urchin]

Nope.

[trim sparrow]

Ty

[ashen shoal]

I ended up taking that one :)

I'm working towards the prophecy for escaping with all the different pacts

[plain river]

You literally can’t be holding a spear where you get the awakening phrase

[ashen shoal]

I'm on hestia and I only need delta chamber to finish the prophecy. do I take it?

ffs I keep confusing the aspects

[tight basin]

what are the other hammers

and are you struggling to clear

if you're not struggling, take it for prophecy
if the other choices are bad, take it

[ashen shoal]

I ended up taking ricochet fire instead

uhhhh I'm fighting the heroes why does asterius keep charging at theseus and then releasing one of those things that hades' boiling blood thingies do?

[tight basin]

did you just get through their friendship arc

[ashen shoal]

yeah

strange

[tight basin]

yeah they get a new move from that

[ashen shoal]

annoying

[trim sparrow]

Bro I can’t talk to Achilles every time I die he still won’t talk to me. How tf I’m I gonna get the waken phrase

[cunning urchin]

You could take a weapon into the House at one point lol. If I remember right, it only worked with the rail.

@mighty ermine do you remember if the bug was rail only? I don't remember the specifics of it, but I know the rail definitely worked.

I think it was something like pressing Reload when walking into the House from Zagreus's room.

[errant narwhal]

it was hestia rail and you had to press reload in zagreus' room and then you would have the weapon in the house

hades had a shield when you tried shooting him though

[cunning urchin]

Ty ty.

Yeah, I remember that.

I had a feeling it was Hestia only, but I wasn't sure.

[charred hemlock]

Hello! I'm trying to get all the achievements for Hades and

I realized I've never sold a legendary boon

Is there a certain keepsake or build to up my chances

of getting a legendary boon

[twin prawn]

No but iirc there is a mirror talent that raises the chance for legendary boons to spawn

It was one of the bottom 2

[cunning urchin]

Gods' Legacy, yeah, that's the mirror talent.

Any god keepsake also improves your chances for getting a legendary or duo boon from that god.

[charred hemlock]

I know that but is there anything else

[charred hemlock]

Ah that's helpful to know

who hs the most boons

[cunning urchin]

Yarn of Ariadne (purchase from Well of Charon), Refreshing Nectar (gift from Eurydice), and Master Chaos's Favor boon also improve your chances.

Besides that, filling all of your priority slots (Attack, Special, Cast, and Dash) will improve your general duo/legendary chances a lot.

Also... taking t2 status curses (i.e., Hunter's Mark, Static Discharge, Razor Shoals, and Blinding Flash) out of the god's pool will help your chances of getting a duo/legendary of the respective god from future boons.

That's because the priority boons and the t2 status curses wil be added first to the boon selection. So you can end up with e.g.

Attack
Hunter's Mark
[third boon]

And then only the third slot has a chance to roll for legendary/duo instead of all three slots.

[cunning urchin]

Zagreus, he gets them all.

[charred hemlock]

kk

thank u

[charred hemlock]

oh that's good to know I didn't kno wthat

Well I knew it'd increase duo

not legendary

[cunning urchin]

Duo/Legendary is the same roll.

If you want one specific duo or legendary, it's important to avoid opening up any other duos or legendaries from those gods because that will hurt your chances to get the one you want a lot.

(1) If all priority slots (i.e., Attack, Special, Cast, and Dash) are empty, fill all three slots with priority boons,
(2) if an exchange is possible, 10% chance to add an exchange to one free slot,
(3) if 2 fails and there are free priority slots, add one priority boon to one slot,
(4) 50% chance to add a tier 2 status curse (i.e., Jolted, Marked, Rupture, or Exposed) to one slot if boon requirements are met,
(5) roll for legendary/duo for each remaining slot,
(6) roll for epic for each remaining slot,
(7) roll for rare for each remaining slot,
(8) fill all remaining slots with common,
(9) fill all remaining slots with whatever is available.

That's how the game rolls for what boons you're offered.

[charred hemlock]

oooh

that makes sense

I just want any legendary I can sell

For the thanks but no thanks achievement

[charred hemlock]

thanks so much

I appreciate the help a lot thanks so much 🙏

so would selling the duo one count for achievement

[cunning urchin]

I think so. I don't remember.

I did that over 2 years ago.

[charred hemlock]

I tried and I didn't get an achievement so maybe not

[cunning urchin]

Guess not then lol.

[charred hemlock]

I got it

It took me shorter than expected

thx so much for the help!!

(It didn't take me 2 hours I just took a break took like 3 runs)

[cunning urchin]

Congratulations!

[twin prawn]

Best cast for hera?

I usually try to get dio or aphro for the area damage, idk though

Or ares if im going hunting blades

[placid spindle]

Is going for the mirror skill giving more chance for duo booms more relevant for players who really know how to make the most of it (aka. Understanding what to pick to increase the odds) ?

I mostly play without expectations and slow progression (small increments of heat)

[placid spindle]

For high heat or low heat?

[twin prawn]

Id say low

Since i play on 5-7

[plain river]

Most people use god’s pride

[plain river]

Crush shot

Turn on priviledged status and go demeter for snow burst afterwards

[plain river]

Because the rarity boost often matters more then the legendary/duo odds boost

also I have a metric ton of legacy slander photos where I got 3 or more duos while using pride

[twin prawn]

So just pop flower on tart for cast then pop horn if i dont find demeter?

I see

[plain river]

Yeah

Honestly pop horn anyways if you do see demeter

Forcing for ravenous will or other dem support boons is nice

[twin prawn]

Alright

[valid dagger]

credit it

or write yours

you choose

[nimble crag]

Oh thank you

[small magnet]

ty

[astral lantern]

Anyone know of a zag sword build

[plain river]

Curse of Agony -> Divine Flourish -> Merciful End -> Divine Dash

Or zeus strike -> aphro special -> zeus or dio aid -> smouldering air

Look for double edge

Hyper sprint -> rush delivery or greatest reflex from hermes

[twin cloak]

PS is FAKE

u have to hit the mfs with snurst and then only the 2nd and beyond casts per volley get PS damage????

[lucid oar]

bosss!!.!!!

[twin cloak]

scam

you won't have PS up without being lucky for the most influential boss of the run

[cunning urchin]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IHgXN-_iYn3G2BWUJ05GSi0Qm4j4FsE0yPNM3stKpOE/edit

[tight basin]

Get a status curse on the atk lmao
Gotta get drunken strike on beo and Hera yaknow

[twin cloak]

wall bug

[tight basin]

there's only 1 status curse here

[brittle wave]

I think I found a really good combo more than a build
a shield with minotaur rush, divine dash and sudden rush, you become almost invincble and you do decent damage, idk if people found it before but I just used it and it was really good

yeah but I mean you can use the shield then just spam dash and also deflect alot of things

[plain river]

You can spam empty dash eithout ddash and get a ton of iframes anyways

[neon terrace]

Im done trying 50 heat that sjit's too rough for me

[tight basin]

50 heat moment

[neon terrace]

It's legitimately nearly Dark Souls level of difficulty

[tight basin]

try ap2 hell

that way you dont take ri

and no em4

[plain river]

#h1-high-heat-strategies exists for a reason

[tight basin]

also that

[cunning urchin]

Dark Souls chill.

[tight basin]

dark souls is easy if you dont get hit

you can directly apply this to hades

[twin cloak]

how many hours do u have

[neon terrace]

in the game overall like 300+, on 50 heat specifically probably near 10 now

[twin cloak]

what's ur current heat pb and what r u trying to beat it with

[tight basin]

Also what pact

[neon terrace]

40 lol, I prob should try to work up to 50 but I kinda just wanna get 50 done so I can move on to another game

I did 40 heat once with every weapon

Currently been using Rama, Zeus, and Eris

[twin cloak]

what pact + build

and what's been the roadblock so far

[plain river]

[neon terrace]

Most runs I dont even make it to elysium 😭

[plain river]

What’s your heat pact and your builds for those runs though

[neon terrace]

In Asphodel the problem is heightened security 100%

I max everything but EM4, RI, and AP

and CP

[tight basin]

Is in the magma shafting you or is it lernie

Because lernie is pretty difficult

[plain river]

And what are the builds looking like

[neon terrace]

magma, sometimes it's lernie when he has the head that spits out a ton of magma

[valid dagger]

Have you tried watching someone do 50 heat with one of those weapons and a subpar build

[neon terrace]

bc Im normally a fists main, but theyre pretty much unusable with HS, and I use the Rail like a melee weapom too which makes it way harder

[neon terrace]

I always assume when I see 50 heat runs that the builds are intended lol

I saw a Zag Fists one where the guy intentionally went for Blade Dash at the start

[plain river]

Watch ap2 50 heat runs then

[valid dagger]

Well the starting boon could be but the build usually isnt

If you're on AP1 RI0 you can get a thing or two that you want but that's also easy to replicate