h1-builds-and-combat

[loud fossil]

There use to be another website like this, but got taken down

No idea why no one ive met in the community knows about it, the only post they ever did promoting it got 30 upvotes

[tight basin]

I'll get a better look at it when I get home but it looks really well made

[loud fossil]

Im making my own version of this but with a built in calc for damage and some pre set builds and keepsakes, tho with ap classes will prolly take a couple of months

And with the ability to export builds

Somewhat like pikaltyics, if your familiar with that

[loud fossil]

Has some issues, and kinda basic, but i still use it a lot way better then typing out what u want to get in a doc

I updated it a bit

https://i.imgur.com/h8GVVXQ_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[rose nexus]

Doesn’t work too well on mobile

[rose nexus]

This with Zeus attack instead of dio would have been perfect

Lightning phalanx and mirage shot duos

Then you’d be set

Just want Poms on phalanx shot and chaos cast buffs

[loud fossil]

Yeah ill consider switching to zeus, i just rly like easy double status and the duo

But zeus is something I want to run

[tight basin]

Pstatus moment

[rose nexus]

Exposed dio attack Poseidon sword sounds unwieldy for Pstatus

[plain river]

True!

If you want dio attack on pos sword might well run trippy shot as well for big w

[loud fossil]

Yeah that does seem a lot better for room clearing

The cast stays in the 3rd enemy, right?

[plain river]

I believe so

[loud fossil]

Ty

Will exit wounds affect the other 2?

[plain river]

No

[rose nexus]

Sometimes it just… flies off to a corner across the room

[loud fossil]

Damn

[rose nexus]

Which is an L

[loud fossil]

Thatd be so cool if it did

[plain river]

Why are you so hung up on exit wounds bruh

[loud fossil]

Because its rly good on this build

[rose nexus]

It’s good bossing damage for Poseidon

And a good safety net if your build isn’t going so well

[plain river]

Yeah but it isn’t the be all end all

[rose nexus]

But in general for normal chambers things should just be dying and dropping stones that way

Just get greatest recall or whatever

[plain river]

Tbh I think I would just run pos sword like I ran talos, blizzard shot mirage shot arctic blast, but I’m not sure if it would be as effective without talos pull

[tight basin]

Exit wounds should not be killing normal enemies yeah

[rose nexus]

Using a non lodging cast on Poseidon is just like… go play Achilles bro

[tight basin]

True lol

Spear kinda doodoo tho

[plain river]

I mean nonlodging cast talos is gaming as much as nonlodging cast achilles I don’t see why nonlodging pos sword wouldn’t be as effective

[rose nexus]

So I think I’ve discovered part of why I’m sucking at beo so much

Are you supposed to dash before your rushes?

Cuz too much bow has me doing that

[plain river]

Dash after your rushes

[rose nexus]

And it doesn’t seem to make it come out faster

[plain river]

Dashing before your rushes just makes the time before you start charging faster

Not the charge charge faster

[rose nexus]

Does it tho

The time to start a rush is so sluggish

It gets me hit a lot

[plain river]

it does because dstrike into guarding is faster than standing strike into guarding

[rose nexus]

Does flood flare proc razor shoals?

C3 Poseidon again and I know I don’t want breaking wave because it opens second wave

I could get purple splash dash or purple razor shoals tho

[plain river]

Any movement procs shoals

so yes flood flare procs shoals

[rose nexus]

Bloop

Well I know it doesn’t proc sea storm so I wasn’t sure

Do I want splash dash on beo tho?

[loud fossil]

Yeah i dont like it in the god pool as much as dio, and like it less on bosses, but seems better, will run it

[plain river]

I’m fairly certain flood flare procs sea storm no?

[rose nexus]

Beo moment

[tight basin]

Dstrike into rush, dstrike afterwards for another rush, dash/dstrike into flare to pick up stones I believe

[rose nexus]

Icic

[plain river]

If using nonflood flare definitely for mirage shot open I think

[tight basin]

You use however many casts you need to reach a break point basically

[rose nexus]

Someone tell me if I want splash dash or shoals tho plz then I’ll shut up for at least one minute

[tight basin]

I'd do tdash

Fill cores

And won't open duos

Well ofc it won't open duos rn

[rose nexus]

Smart

[tight basin]

But filling cores is good

[rose nexus]

That pos pos duo

Storm storm

[plain river]

Do you know this for certain? Is this legit?

[rose nexus]

Wait no it would be sea sea

[tight basin]

Actually ddash would be good as well because it doesn't open any duos with arty or pos

But yeah

[rose nexus]

I’ve heard it here at twice

[plain river]

I’ve never heard that

[rose nexus]

At least twice

[plain river]

Who said it?

[rose nexus]

Ya mama

Let me see

[plain river]

[tight basin]

Oh yeah flood flare doesn't proc sea storm

[rose nexus]

Just search “flood flare sea storm”

Amb and aieoeieieuo both have said

[plain river]

Legit? Bruh

[tight basin]

Yeah

The normal attack does tho lol

[rose nexus]

Pulv blow secret downgrade to sea storm beo

another reason I suck at beo is I get tap happy with the cast button

I should be rushing with one stone repeatedly

[tight basin]

1 or 2 yeah

[rose nexus]

F in the chat I’m forced to take dio or aphro now

Ig aphro special

[tight basin]

Why not take a noncore

[rose nexus]

True

In that case I want dio maybe

Dio non cores are based

[tight basin]

Only take cores if it doesn't open a duo or it's like c12 with no arty yet and you can sell it

[rose nexus]

Guys where’s the meg spot for MM doomstone

[tight basin]

That's the tart laser one right

[rose nexus]

Yes

[tight basin]

You just do the same thing

Before it spawns get on top of it and summon

[rose nexus]

It was slash j cuz you don’t have to do anything for meg to hit that

Unlike the other links

Minis

I actually didn’t waste ten years fighting MM power couple with beo this time

[tight basin]

Oh lmao

[rose nexus]

Bull rushed through the shockwave

🧠

[tight basin]

Imagine not eating the damage so you can get a good meg

[rose nexus]

I’ve never megged them both or tried

[tight basin]

(you're supposed to iframe the damage)

[tight basin]

It's quite difficult yeah lmao

Tbh as long as I hit the thwomp with it I'm happy

[rose nexus]

I just meg the Gorgon because I hate petrify

[thorn tendon]

if you get the gorgon pattern with 5 stones at once you can dash through it and bait the crusher

[loud fossil]

Could pierced butterfly work on hestia?

[grand zenith]

U confident u won't be hit?

[loud fossil]

Like

64 percent confident

[lucid oar]

Hestias probably the best aspect for butterfly, but butterfly isn’t the best keepsake for hestia

[grand zenith]

I think you should go for it, tell me how it works out.

[loud fossil]

The highest ive gotten with it was 44 percent

Idk if thats good

[grand zenith]

Looks pretty good to me.

[grand zenith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/755677197670285312/1030775789228146718/unknown.png

Which should I scale with pom?

I'm playing Talos.

[lucid oar]

True shot

[grand zenith]

Thanks, was worried how long I had to wait.

[grand zenith]

Just to make sure, keep levelling Pom, rii?

[lucid oar]

Pretty much

[grand zenith]

kk.

qq.

[grand zenith]

Is there any god in particular I should get a boon from that would help me? Or just go with the flow?

[lucid oar]

I often like to go with the flow

Zeus is always good on fists though

[grand zenith]

Same.

[grand zenith]

Really? Damn, I hate Zeus so I never really choose him.

One of these days I'ma do a Zeus build.

Till then: F*ck Zeus.

[grand zenith]

Tell me if I'm getting annoying but i really wanna win this one.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/751932983094804582/1030780412999507988/unknown.png

Which one?

Oh hell, I got 576 btw.

@tight basin ?

[thorn tendon]

you can disable the ping on replies btw

[cunning urchin]

I don't see an image.

[grand zenith]

I... what?

Hold on.

Apparently I'm posting links too fast, hold on.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/751932983094804582/1030780412999507988/unknown.png?width=972&height=701

Now it's not even showing up.

[grand zenith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/755677197670285312/1030793652051648553/Hades_10_15_2022_6_44_50_AM.png?width=1246&height=701

How about now?

[cunning urchin]

Yeah.

[grand zenith]

So, which one?

[cunning urchin]

What else do you have besides these three?

[grand zenith]

As in build?

[cunning urchin]

Yes.

[grand zenith]

I got Tempest Flourish, Drunken Dash and True Shot.

576 Obols.

32/125 health.

[lucid oar]

Shop

[cunning urchin]

Shop then.

[grand zenith]

Ok, Sanku both.

[cunning urchin]

Need to find a decent Attack. And you could use some healing.

[grand zenith]

Indeed, what's good for Talos?

I messed up...

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/755677197670285312/1030795499755798608/Hades_10_15_2022_6_52_28_AM.png?width=1246&height=701

[cunning urchin]

lmao

[grand zenith]

I thought when it said "Borrow 300" it meant I could buy it with 300.

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-gif-23730687

[cunning urchin]

You took his lunch money.

Now live with the consquences... if you can.

[grand zenith]

I refuse to believe Charon doesn't get stronger after the first time you beat him.

[grand zenith]

...

I'm already ded.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/755677197670285312/1030796303220879360/Hades_2022-10-15_06-55-34.mp4

[cunning urchin]

Try to not uppercut those waves. That doesn't work.

[grand zenith]

F.

[cunning urchin]

I suggest having a look at the Talos section of this guide if you want to get some ideas that work well. https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-build-guide#aspect-of-talos-fists

[grand zenith]

Sanku, what's a good attack on Talos tho?

[lucid oar]

Doom

Hangover

[cunning urchin]

Lightning

[grand zenith]

Ah, thanks again to you two.

[plain river]

If you find heavy knuckle the % based gods become an option for your attack

but otherwise just flat damage

[grand zenith]

Really? Huh.

[plain river]

Well when you have 40 base damage and you aren’t attacking nearly as fast as before

[grand zenith]

Ah, u rii.

[plain river]

Personally because talos gives you some additive already and it’s a castpect I would prefer artemis if I found heavy knuckle since it also opens mirage shot and a few other cast duos

[grand zenith]

Thanks, you mean Artemis atk tho?

SHACKLE GET!!!

@plain river Yo, does shackle just not work if you get one stat boon ? Or does it just not work on that one boon?

[plain river]

It just doesn’t affect that one boon

[grand zenith]

This.

[plain river]

if you get an attack core it’ll still affect special and cast

[grand zenith]

This is why shackle is bestest.

[plain river]

Yes

[grand zenith]

Oh.

[plush pollen]

Is privelege status when using hangover boons ?

[lucid oar]

It’s good yeah

[plain river]

I rerolled and litedally nothing changed bruh

Exchange for flourish, crush shot, and dash all remained at the same rarity and all

[grand zenith]

Same thing happened to me.

[spare flare]

Does Rare Crop work on Chaos boons?

[rose nexus]

Nope

[spare flare]

So if all that I have is that and Tidal Dash, big oof.

Okay, thanks.

[strange lark]

not big oof

red tidal dash good

[tight basin]

lmao true

56 base damage

[spare flare]

What, I should have taken that over Crystal Beam?

[acoustic vale]

Arthur better

[strange lark]

yes

[tight basin]

yeah

[spare flare]

I kinda' figured that taking a cast that opens up some duo boons and reduces the odds of casts in the option pools of subsequent boons would be more beneficial . . .

[strange lark]

why do you want to open useless duo boons

and also crystal beam takes away boiling blood

which isnt good on some aspects

[tight basin]

Just because you have duo boons doesn't mean they're good lol

And doesn't mean they'll be beneficial to you

Like low tolerance is good on Chiron, but you wouldn't really want it on like Arthur

Or at least it's not something to aim for on Arthur

[spare flare]

I mean, Crystal Clarity has shown itself to be pretty fancy.

Also, I'm not using Arthur. I'm using Nemesis.

[tight basin]

It was an example

And there are plenty of other duos that are good on nemesis

[spare flare]

Also using Cursed Slash, so I kinda' want to hit things with sword more than splashy dashy.

[strange lark]

crystal beam is bad with nemesis

[tight basin]

Cursed slash

[strange lark]

because it takes away boiling blood

[spare flare]

Okay, well, live and learn, I guess . . .

Probably should've taken Demeter's Aid, really . . . Just kinda' hoped to see better options and that Rare Crop might come up again later . . .

Well, at least this heat is low enough that it doesn't really matter.

[rose nexus]

I miss being able to just throw stuff together and clear

[wraith blade]

I'm trying to beat 32 and Hades is so annoying I might have to go merciful end fists just for the deflects

Im like out of range and he just says nah take 80 anyway

[rose nexus]

Play Chiron for 32

Is what I did

[grand zenith]

Damn… You’re gonna sacrifice spear like I did.

:/

[tight basin]

80... Why are you using hl5

A reflect wouldn't help you there tho I think

[twin cloak]

Hl5 is like 5 heat for a semi small conseq

[tight basin]

i mean yeah but also hl5 isn't necessary for 32 heat

[cunning urchin]

No particular pact is necessary so long as it adds up to 32.

HL5 is good, though.

[plain river]

Fo2 is necessary

I cannot spell

[cunning urchin]

FO2 is neither necessary nor recommended for a first 32.

[plain river]

Smh they should recommend a better pact then

[tight basin]

js3 cp2 em4 td3 hl5 ri3

oh i forgot fo2

js3 cp2 td3 hl5 fo2 em4

i really want to put in ri in there

[plain river]

Cp2 js3 dc 2 td 3 em4 mm bp2 ri4 uhhhh uhhhh
Idk what that adds up to

[cunning urchin]

80 damage from Hades doesn't imply HL5, anyway. Could just be Boiling Blood.

[tight basin]

oh right i forgot that existed

[plain river]

was about to say could be gilgy but gilgy is +50% not +100%

And I’m fairly certain they weren’t using gilgy

[soft kiln]

I'm on ME achilles. If i already have ME and both hermes boons should i still take the third option on eurydice?

kinda thinking of increasing the tier of 2 random boons and see if i can make curse of agony heroic

or 4 poms since i haven't pommed it at all

[tight basin]

What are your Hermes and rarities

[soft kiln]

purple reflex purple hypersprint

[cunning urchin]

Take poms.

[tight basin]

What else besides ME cores do you have

[soft kiln]

ares atack, athena special, ddash, purple dire misfortune, blue holy shield

[tight basin]

Yeah poms

[soft kiln]

thanks you two

[tight basin]

Rarities would be too risky but you could save scum it if you want lol

[soft kiln]

how do you save scum that?

[tight basin]

Or just get lucky and get it the first time

[tight basin]

You like do various atks/cast or whatever to manip rng

Before you take eury

Idk if she has to be in frame or not or whatever

[soft kiln]

i thought the rooms lock you out of quitting after you activate something randomized?

[tight basin]

Nah this doesn't lock you out

It locks you out if you take damage

Anvil and eury doesn't lock you out

[soft kiln]

huh cool

so i got flurry jab

this is bananas lol

[tight basin]

Based

It is me

[rose nexus]

Neither does bouldy if you feel like scumming for 10%

Bouldy is totally random tho no need to cast

I think

[soft kiln]

ok so just killed the champs with 3 charges left on the acorn

on 40 heat XD

[rose nexus]

Gamer

[tight basin]

absolute gamer

[loud fossil]

Does zeus on rama speical transmit ramas status when it bounces?

Also do boost from chaos on speical boost lighting? Trying to figure out a build for rama

[lucid oar]

Yes

[lucid oar]

No

[loud fossil]

Ok ty

[thorn tendon]

zeus special is a lightning bolt, not ball lightning

[loud fossil]

Ok ty

Is special most important on rama?

Ty

[strange lark]

bruh

[rose nexus]

Don’t fall for the pasta

[twin cloak]

Tree sucks

[plain river]

+% to attack and special do not affect zeus dio or ares

[tight basin]

it's important for good room clearing because of shared suffering and stripping DC if you have that pact condition

[trail compass]

Is there any synergy to zeus and poseidon?

[tight basin]

depends where the cores are but yeah

sea storm is a pretty good duo

[trail compass]

Zeus attack and poseidon dash

Which one is that again?

[tight basin]

enemies that are knocked back get hit by lightning that deals 40 damage

tidal dash isn't a prereq for that tho, so you're gonna need something else like flood shot or poseidon's aid

[trail compass]

What if im using weapons like the sword or the fist

Being close quarters at all times and knocking to the walls

[tight basin]

tempest strike is the worst attack in the game so dont use that

tempest flourish is alright, tidal dash is still gonna be a good dash boon

putting it on cast is always a good option tho, still a styx shredder

[trail compass]

Im guessing with the double hit

Or blast damage increase

[tight basin]

wdym by double hit

[trail compass]

Isnt there a boon that allows the cast or any knock back done by poseidon to hit twice

[tight basin]

oh that's the legendary

[trail compass]

Ah

[tight basin]

that's not needed lol

[trail compass]

Gonna be tough to get then

[tight basin]

any knockback + breaking wave will tear styx apart anyways

[trail compass]

Oh

[rose nexus]

Does second wave make sea storm proc twice off splash dash?

[tight basin]

i would think so

[rose nexus]

And does sea storm proc splitting?

[tight basin]

if the internal timer let it

[rose nexus]

If so brb gonna try something

[tight basin]

i'd also think so

[trail compass]

Im guessing he's gonna go try those boons

[tight basin]

yeah probably

[trail compass]

Hm, guess ill just stick with attack speed apear with crit

Worked well last time

[tight basin]

arty atk flurry jab is nice yeah

[trail compass]

Flurry jab, triple jab, artemis support fire, and crit attack

The fastest clear i ever got on hydra was with that

Thanks for the info bananas.

[rose nexus]

How fast

[tight basin]

my fastest lernie clear was 15 minutes

[trail compass]

2-3 seconds every phase

[tight basin]

the smaller heads are def gonna take longer than that for the midphase lol

[trail compass]

Ah true

Guess i was thinking about how long it takes to kill the maon one

[tight basin]

yeah the main one is pretty easy for the most part

it's the smaller ones that hurt more

[trail compass]

Yeah, fun though

[tight basin]

em2 is the opposite of fun tho

[trail compass]

Absolute bullet hell coming from me

Yeah em2 is not ok, too much lava

[tight basin]

trans lernie moment

[trail compass]

Yeah, especially with the skeletons

And skeletons

If you didnt dealt with them

But occasionally they do spawn

Now that i think about it, i never had trouble with them if i had support fire

It do be good

Lol

Also tried it with chiron

Had a run with consecutive strike and +4 arrows on hammers

Along side crit special and support fire

[grand zenith]

Bro Tempest Flourish Talos is a godsend.

[rose nexus]

Tempest flourish is for weapons that don’t use their special to unlock sea storm with

[tight basin]

It's alright but there's still better options

[grand zenith]

Really?

[grand zenith]

Sea Storm?

[tight basin]

Heartbreak flourish just does more damage lol

There's not much point to the knockback tbh

Sure you can get sea storm with it so it does 40 more damage but also I'd rather have smair lol

[plain river]

Knockback effects drop lightning

[grand zenith]

You can’t get the duo with tempest flourish?

[plain river]

🤨

[grand zenith]

Asking, forgot the question.

[plain river]

It can unlock it

[grand zenith]

Oh cool.

[tight basin]

the only poseidon core that doesn't unlock it is tidal dash

which is fair considering we only care about his dash most of the time lol

[rose nexus]

Would be too easy to unlock the busted combo same as ME

[grand zenith]

Is Kinetic Launcher good with Demeter Fists?

[rose nexus]

It’s funny

Idk about good

[vale imp]

It’s not the worst thing, the increase to base damage and range increase is nice

Not sure if it mathematically stands up to Flying Cutter or Rush kick

[grand zenith]

Flying Cutter is a weird one for sure.

[rose nexus]

Explosive upper lots better

Just did a Demeter run with kinetic

[grand zenith]

How was it?

[rose nexus]

Easier to miss with compared to explosive upper

[grand zenith]

Ig I should ask, is it worth taking?

[rose nexus]

I mean for Demeter nearly any special hammer is better than none

Explosive upper is 80 dmg tho

Compared to kinetic 50

[grand zenith]

Ah.

[grand zenith]

EXPLOSIVE UPPER GET!!!

[rose nexus]

Good now learn how to dash strike + dash upper

You can do both with one dash

[grand zenith]

Ik.

[lucid oar]

I think it’s better than both of those

Flying cutter only works for standing upper, kinetic works for dash upper too

[plain river]

20 damage more than rush kick

Plus having a 300 base damage kick compared to the 210/240 of hammerless is always nice

explosive cutter is likely better though

[grand zenith]

Kinetic has its perks tho, particularly range.

[plain river]

Charging kinetic launcher

[plain river]

The real perk of kinetic launcher is being able to powershot 🧠

[grand zenith]

Indeed.

[plain river]

It’s not like it powershots for not enough damagr

Imagine flying cutter kinetic launcher

[grizzled estuary]

been having fun with aspect of rama, what are some of yalls favorite rama builds?

[grand zenith]

Nice.

[grand zenith]

Is Bow your main?

[grizzled estuary]

honestly i dunno if I quite have a "main," I alternate to get the darker thirst bc i gotta have me my darkness and gemstones but I've been having a lot of fun with fists of malphon lately

[grand zenith]

As you would, Fists are goated.

Try Zagfist Plume.

It’s peak synergy.

[grizzled estuary]

oooh noted

i have dark thirst on bow rn so i figure ill just do another rama run haha

[grand zenith]

Lel, cap.

[tender latch]

If you want to deal death, zeus special + jolted + Artemis dash + high % attack like aphro + twin shot

[grizzled estuary]

ooooh okay

[grizzled estuary]

yeah I actually had a run with a lot of that last time it was Nice

[tender latch]

Modded ez

And you don't necessarily need aphro

Chilling vortex moment

[wary adder]

tree has more words sent in copy pasta than from their own thoughts

[rose nexus]

Tree has thoughts?

[plain river]

Tree has thoughts = False

[tender latch]

🥦

[grand zenith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1031006396562550825/1031643564477788170/image0.jpg

[tight basin]

Sea storm or rod here

I would do sea storm

Unless you really want to try out rod

[grand zenith]

Oh no-

This isn’t me.

I just saw this on the reddit.

[tight basin]

Oh bruh

[strange lark]

bruh

[plain river]

Imagine looking at hades reddit

[grand zenith]

Lel.

[tender zenith]

how do I make a beowulf build

[plain river]

Cshot

[tender zenith]

ok

[plain river]

Use flood flare or passion flare

[tight basin]

flood flare, arty atk, mirage shot, win

[plain river]

If flood flare take arte attack in asphodel for mirage shot

[tight basin]

pstatus, passion flare, snow burst or frost strike or if you're desperate mistral dash, win

[plain river]

Bruh anvil wants to do everything but take away super nova and give dedge

[tight basin]

git gud

[plain river]

True

[wary adder]

or maybe your head just empty

[plain river]

Oh my

It’s been 20 rng manips

I haven’t even seen dedge

Imagine having autocorrect on you nerd

[wary adder]

i rest my case

[plain river]

Screw it I’m taking a styx tunnel and then trying again

Oh bruh

Third rng manip after hammer lose super nova for dedge piercing

[winter glacier]

is sigil of the dead particularly good for any builds?

ic

so for beo the whole rush and flare would benefit from the damage bonus?

[tight basin]

yes

i believe so anyways

[winter glacier]

sounds fun

[plain river]

How do zeus internal cooldowns work when you have multiple sources of lightning?

Like special and call or something

[tender latch]

achilles: 🗿

[twin cloak]

Dadcall is just good dmg

[nimble plank]

Hi guys.
I haven't played with any hidden aspects aside from coronacht's.
Can anyone suggest a build for Aspect of Lucifer?

[plain river]

Zeus attack aphrodite special hope for triple bomb

Get zeus call or some other call and hit smouldering air

[nimble plank]

So do I spam bombs everywhere and then shoot at them?

[plain river]

Yes

[nimble plank]

💀

[plain river]

You also dash into them with tidal dash 🧠

shoot to trigger does suck

[nimble plank]

Damn that's cool.

[plain river]

Or other dashesp

Aphro special opens smair

plus aphro and arte are kinda interchangable

[nimble plank]

So I should start with tidal dash and then focus on getting zeus' attack and aid, correct?

[plain river]

0 40 heat wins

[nimble plank]

Okay.

[plain river]

you can use any other dash

[nimble plank]

So I go for zeus, then aphrodite and the third god is?

[plain river]

pos ig

[nimble plank]

My favorite one is the divine dash.

[plain river]

if you see pos or athena take them for dash ig

[nimble plank]

Okay.

[plain river]

other dashes are less cool but usable

[nimble plank]

Thanks!

[plain river]

Cool kids use zeus special so they don’t have to blow the bombs up themself

[nimble plank]

First 2 boons are zeus' attack and zeus' aid + first hammer is triple bomb.

Also all of them are epic rarity.

It feels very fun during chambers but it's a bit hard for me to adjust during bossfights.

[nimble plank]

That build is OP.

[plain river]

Yes but it isn’t worth it over jsut exploding the bombs immediately

I don’t think pos special knocks them far enough

[paper fable]

What weapon and aspect would be the most OP if you could somehow have every hammer boon active at once?

[lucid oar]

Probably aspect of rama

Concentrated volley + relentless volley by itself on Rama is absolutely bonkers

Add on twin triple point blank perfect

[tight basin]

Rip sword

[tender latch]

If it's EVERY hammer, rail easily

Rama still has to click several buttons or charge

Eris would get triple hazard targeting clockets

You launch 3 carpet bombing campaigns at once

[cunning urchin]

Triple Hazard Cluster Rocket Bomb. Everything is dead, including Zagreus.

[plain river]

Explosive fire

[lucid oar]

Fr

[plain river]

True

[tender latch]

Stubborn defiance 💪

[plain river]

Shield

[cunning urchin]

But then phase 2.

[lucid oar]

Explosive shot sniper shot perfect shot :zagwow

[plain river]

Last I checked shield doesn’t have negative hammers nor hammers that wouldn’t work well mixed with each other

[grand zenith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/755677197670285312/1031991159540699167/unknown.png

Which one?

[lucid oar]

Strike

[plain river]

Strike

[grand zenith]

Oh yeah you said focus Dio right?

[grand zenith]

The goat.

[tender latch]

🧠 tbf that combo of hammers wouldn't even need eris boost, just hit special and empty dash away

Generally you want to pom flat damage like doom/hangover/jolted over percentages

[cunning urchin]

Can't dash on no-dash runs.

[tender latch]

who said anything about no dash-

[cunning urchin]

I did.

Just now.

[tender latch]

Just dash anyway

No dash trash because you rd without hyper

[cunning urchin]

Just get more Ignited Ichors.

You can still i-frame the explosion without dash anyway.

[tender latch]

routed nodash

with what, call???

[cunning urchin]

Call or summon, yes.

[tender latch]

you're not gonna have call without smair because everything dies instantly anyway

[grand zenith]

What's a good keepsake for Aspho?

[tender latch]

Supporting god for your build in most cases

[cunning urchin]

I know nothing of your build except that you have Lv.2 Drunken Strike and Lv.1 Heartbreak Flourish.

I guess take the other one out of those two and get their Duo Boon.

Or take Thunder Signet and go for Zeus' Aid and Smair.

[tender latch]

Could also take zeus call

Yeah

You don't need smair as bad since you have fists + hangover though

[cunning urchin]

Still good.

Also opens up Scintillating Feast potentially.

[grand zenith]

Yesterday someone suggested a Dio, Aphro, Ares build and it accidentally worked out for me this run.

[cunning urchin]

Picking up Trippy Shot isn't a bad idea either for Black Out, plus the stun is nice for melee and it has excellent pom scaling.

Black Out is good in any Hangover build.

[plain river]

Or take mom pom to and hope it hits drunk strike a ton /j

[cunning urchin]

No.

[paper fable]

Eris + Hazard Bomb is the best build

[cunning urchin]

Not in Asphodel, no.

[plain river]

Yes, drunken strike/aphro flourish/ curse of vengeance

Curse of vengeance isn’t neccesary

[cunning urchin]

Curse of Vengeance is nice to pick up if you happen to run into Lord Ares, but don't go out of your way to get him into your pool.

[plain river]

Tbf nothing is actually neccesary

[grand zenith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1031006396562550825/1031996168806346862/unknown.png

LEZZZ GOOO!!!

[rose nexus]

Ambrosia moment

[grand zenith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/755677197670285312/1031997104371023983/unknown.png

Dammit, no revenge damage.

Which one?

[grand zenith]

?

[plain river]

What are you using?

[grand zenith]

Whatcu mean?

Oh, Fists.

[plain river]

probably urge to kill or blade dash then

[grand zenith]

Kk.

[paper fable]

Hazard Bomb + Deadly Flourish is really fun

Took like 1/4th of Lernie's HP off with a crit

Maybe I'll get that crit damage up boon before the run is over

Ooh

ALMOST tempted to get Hide Breaker, but I think Support Fire will be more useful

[grand zenith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/755677197670285312/1032005132369539142/unknown.png?width=1246&height=701

Which one?

@plain river

Oh.

[tender latch]

Hide breaker isn't all that great

[grand zenith]

Which one should I get?

[tender latch]

Bad influence could be neat while clearing rooms

[paper fable]

I know, but I was considering it solely for the BIG NUMBERS

[tender latch]

You have drunken strike don't you

[paper fable]

2k special crits would have been hilarious

[grand zenith]

Ye.

[paper fable]

I ended up choosing the other one so my normal attack is better at finishing off stragglers or quick enemies, though

[tender latch]

Dio aid is a great call but it isn't really good with drunken strike

Because hangovers override each other you could just end up wasting it

Revenge is meh but it's good for not opening duos

P sure most don't open t2 but I'm not ensure

[paper fable]

Revenge is mediocre, but if I'm in Styx and I see a decent one, I'll sometimes pick it as a filler to help clear Hades' adds

[strange lark]

revenge is good

[paper fable]

[strange lark]

battle rage is pommable

[paper fable]

Does the Swift Flourish boon work on the Railgun's special missile time?

[strange lark]

wdym

does it drop faster?

is that what you are asking?

[paper fable]

Yeah, does it arc through the air faster

[strange lark]

no

it reduces the cooldown of the special so you can shoot them faster

[paper fable]

Ah

[grand zenith]

Oh, yeah for sure.

[paper fable]

Still useful, but I'd have preferred missile speed

1750 crits are beautiful

[rose nexus]

Just the animation is faster? Or the cooldown

[strange lark]

cooldown is faster

[rose nexus]

Pretty neat

[twin cloak]

This is why the only good boon is blood frenzy fron ares

[lucid oar]

Average Beowulf player

[plain river]

Bad influence

They meant curse of vengeance
Cuz dio build

For curse of nausea

[grand zenith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/755677197670285312/1032049892291526727/unknown.png

Which?

[plain river]

Double edge

[grand zenith]

Thx.

#announcements

[tight basin]

announcements moment

[plain river]

Sword is just like purely dash striking

So dedge will practically double your attacking damage output

Doesn’t help as much for doom or zeus I think though

I think zeus still gets shafted by internal cooldowns and doom doesn’t stack so it doesn’t help as much for those 2

But you’d take double edge anyway

[tight basin]

if you have doom atk, does piercing wave inflict doom as well or nah

i'd assume not

[plain river]

No

[tight basin]

cringe

[plain river]

Piercing wave isn’t affected by attack boons

Only global damage

[tight basin]

rd piercing wave gaming

[plain river]

And only fires one wave with dedge I believe

[tight basin]

gotta get that big damage

oh bruh

amazing

[plain river]

Still one of the better sword hammers

[tight basin]

Yeah

[plain river]

Good free damage

Doesn’t negatively affect you

If piercing wave was affected by attack boons it’d probably be as good as dedge

Actually it’d practically be dedge at that point

That’s probably why it doesn’t

Otherwise it’d just be dedge but applies to all attacks, has range, pierces shields and can stack with dedge

[rose nexus]

Yeah SGG was like “two good sword hammers? Seems excessive”

[plain river]

Well they’d be doing practically the same thing but piercing wave would just be doing it better is the problem

[rose nexus]

Pwave would work better for Arthur

In this fantasy world

[plain river]

Pwave should work better for arthur

Be a big slash

[rose nexus]

Pwave Arthur shoots a literal bullet from your sword

[plain river]

But as seen with charged shot shield, hidden aspects do not change how hammers work

[rose nexus]

Square Enix sues

[plain river]

?

[rose nexus]

Gun blades smh

[plain river]

Oh

Sword bullet

[rose nexus]

Nobody plays ff8 anymore

[rose nexus]

The swullet

[plain river]

Family favourites8

[rose nexus]

It’s a game for the privileged status 1

[plain river]

FF8=Pstatus

Both are 40% damage boost

[rose nexus]

Ptstud

[plain river]

Ptstud

[rose nexus]

Imagine Pstatus with weak and hunters mark as your curses

And heart rend

Sounds op

[plain river]

pstatus weaken hangover

Pstatus exposed doom

Pstatus exposed ruptured

[rose nexus]

Pstatus jolted ruptured

With sea storm

[plain river]

🧠

[rose nexus]

Would actually not be bad

[plain river]

Probably not be bad but idk

[rose nexus]

Except for when you didn’t get both t2s

[plain river]

Means your pos boon applies pststus by itself

[rose nexus]

So 90% of the runs lmao

Pstatus curse of longing

🧠

Never lose Pstatus status even when doom expires

[plain river]

Pstatus chill coldfusion jolted

never have it run out 10 second duration is huge

[rose nexus]

TRUE

Just get dem atk and Zeus dash

[plain river]

Hangover is a status curse yes

Festive fog isn’t

Each olympian aside from hades and hermes has 1 and only 1 status curse

[tight basin]

Half require a t2 other half comes with it

[plain river]

Artemis: Hunters mark
Athena: exposed
Ares: doom
Aphrodite: weaken (not charm)
Poseidon: ruptured
Demeter: chill (no killing freeze isn’t a status curse)
Dionysus: hangover (not festive fog )
Zeus: Jolted
Hades spin marking, Gilgamesh maiming, Rama Shared suffering and Talos magnetised pull buff, boiling/abyssal blood are not status curses

[rose nexus]

Hades isn’t an Olympian 🤓

[plain river]

🤨

Last I checked he was and I’m pretty sure Hades didn’t retcon that?

[rose nexus]

Not even in irl mythos is he an Olympian

The Olympians are the ones that live on Olympus

Fittingly

He’s a cthonic god like the codex says

[plain river]

Oh says codex bruh

[rose nexus]

I mean Wikipedia says so too 💁

[trail compass]

I dont get aspect of guan yu, how do you use it. It's charge attack is so slow and difficult to use

Really short range too

[proper furnace]

dont use the spin atk for combat

use it at start of a wave/long distance

if you get charged skewer you can just use special only with a nice % boon

[trail compass]

Alright, thanks. Also your name fits my cureent situation very well

[proper furnace]

also #h1-discussion message for more in depth guide for GY (by Nyaanyaa)

[trail compass]

Aight, thanks

[random perch]

I've only got 2 escapes, both with Stygian Blade, at Heat 0 and 1, and have all the loot from the first 3 bosses at 0 and 1 for the other weapons, but I can't seem to get a successful escape just yet with them. Am I unable to do Heat 2 for more loot until I win with every other weapon at Heat 0 and 1?

[tight basin]

you can still do heat 2 for sword

each bounty is separate for each weapon

[random perch]

Ooooh ok that's good. Cuz my progress has slowed a ton 😅

[tight basin]

so like, you can keep using sword and get all the bounties from 1-20 but not touch any of the others lol

[random perch]

I was scared I'd have to fully depend on All Coin runs and buy more Titan Blood from Styx Charon

[tight basin]

you obv will have to use other weapons at some point so you dont run into that issue but by then you should have developed enough skill to learn them

[random perch]

I'm honestly very surprised the blade is how I got my first win, and moreso my second, even

Would've definitely guessed it'd be the Spear or Malphon

[rose nexus]

Same

[tight basin]

lmao i dont remember what my first win was on

[random perch]

Would've never said Blade was my best weapon. Perhaps it's Boon RNG

[rose nexus]

But I got merciful end on it and it’s kind of hard to lose with that

[tight basin]

good chance it's that

[plain river]

My first victory was probably shield

[rose nexus]

Even when you’re new as hell

[plain river]

I remember it was attempt 50 on the dot

[rose nexus]

I put 5 blood into the shield and then got my first clear on a sword run I expected to just be a darkness run

[random perch]

First time I got the Demeter boon for recovering HP slowly, spent 10 minutes running in circles recovering while Hades had 10% HP because I was terrified of Phase 3
He took revenge damage and Phase 2 ended and I screamed in panic

But Jon he doesn't have a Phase 3

Exactly!
But I didn't know that last week lol

[tight basin]

my first escape was on 23 apparently i thought it was 17 and i've been saying 17 whoops

[random perch]

||96||

[plain river]

SMH LIAR

[tight basin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/839538570738139146/1032162632884551680/unknown.png?width=1193&height=670

cursed build

[random perch]

||At least I did it before 100||

[plain river]

Oh wtf is that

[plain river]

💪

At least you escaped

[tight basin]

bruh my second clear also had a charon fight

this is so based

[plain river]

ptsd to the dude who complained about Hades not having checkpoints and then refunded the game and left the server

[tight basin]

lmfao

[random perch]

I didn't know Charon would fight you when I saw the bag
I had 47 HP, couldn't afford the taco, grabbed the bag of money, and he massacred me in 2 hits

[tight basin]

based

[random perch]

Yesterday I paused after entering the Asterius and Theseus room cuz I had to go to work. Came back home, power had cut off for a few seconds overnight, I turn it back on, immediately brought back to Theseus and Asterius

[tight basin]

well by "checkpoint" they were upset that every time they died they had to restart

[random perch]

I then promptly got my ass kicked by 75% HP Phase 2 Hades(Spear, Aspect of Chiron? The 2nd one where you dash to its location)

[tight basin]

it do be like that

that's achilles lol

chiron is a bow

[random perch]

Woops lol

[tight basin]

close tho, it's the first aspect

[random perch]

Been using Chiron a lot lately

[tight basin]

chiron's pretty decent

[random perch]

Bow was my least favorite weapon until I became able to upgrade it. My first 3 Titan Blood went to it because I was so hoping to improve it and it paid off

[plain river]

No they mean once you die

[tight basin]

a lot of people dont like bow because they dont dash strike a lot lol
dash strikes charge the shot 33% faster

[random perch]

Roguelikes ftw

[plain river]

chiron Spear aspect of 8 spear homing spears for a special

[random perch]

Tbh I have that issue too except I tell myself to do them I'm just bad

[plain river]

🧠

[tight basin]

at least you're conscious of it lol

chiron is very friendly for bow beginners tho once you get it to a good level

[plain river]

It’s the first after zagreus

[random perch]

Had Hades at half health phase 2 earlier tonight on it

[tight basin]

yeah that's what i meant

[acoustic vale]

I've never managed to get the timing for charging bow dash strikes correctly

[plain river]

I think they meant 2nd down from the top

[plain river]

Bow is a rythm game

[tight basin]

tbh same lol

i get it like 75% of the time

[random perch]

I find it best to hold Attack and then Dash, more than a rapid Dash-Attack

[plain river]

Once you’re on the roll you don’t fall

[tight basin]

the damage counts as a dash attack but the charge is the same as an attack lol

[plain river]

dash attack >>>> standing striking

[plain river]

On every weapon

[random perch]

It feels like mashing Dash and then Attack immediately just shoots it like half an inch from you

[tight basin]

i thought you were supposed to do standing strikes on fist lol

[plain river]

You dash then attack

[tight basin]

dash and then hold attack lol

[rose nexus]

On bow mashing both just makes you dash because you don’t charge long enough for a shot

On bow you gotta roll from the dash to the attack button

Ez on controller

[plain river]

Oh bruh yeah you don’t just charge bow dash strike for a milisecond

you still hold it to powershot it’s just way faster

[random perch]

Oh
I didn't think that counts as Dash Attack
I do the charge and then dash lol

[tight basin]

well the point of a dash attack is so the charge is faster

it does less damage but your dps is much higher because of how often you can do it

[random perch]

I need to keep this in mind that will help

[tight basin]

if you're using chiron it's more forgiving because the special is your source of damage mostly

and you can't dash strike with that so it's whatever lol

[plain river]

It’s not a dash attack if you dash then tap the attack button
That’s a dash mild poke

The only applies to bow though

Since it’s the only weapon like it

[plain river]

“Because the special is your damage source mostly” sure…..

[tight basin]

lmao

[random perch]

Also
Is it just me or is Attack Doom, Artemis Call, Special Chill, and Festive Fog Cast like, THE best combo ever? Cuz it feels like I do the best with those. Not to mention tonight's earlier success with Ice Wine or whatever that Demeter-Dionysus Duo was called

[tight basin]

i think that's just ice wine carry lol

[plain river]

That is not a build

That is just random crap thrown together and you hit a duo

[random perch]

Yea I know that but I'm just saying in general, even without having all 4, I feel like thise are what I do the best with

Excluding the Duo even those 4 seem like they do me the best

[tight basin]

they have their place but it's not all together lol

[random perch]

I suppose Doom, Artemis, and Festive Fog do help cover me a lot with my low skill lol

[plain river]

Artemis call also just

Isn’t the greatest

And those gods don’t syngergize well with each other tbh

[random perch]

Really? Feels like it and Demeter calls are best for me

[tight basin]

well ares and arty do but not with those cores lol

[plain river]

aside from arte + ares but you aren’t even talking hunting blades

zeus and dio are best dps calls

artemis is free iframes ig

[tight basin]

arty is good with a full call for a huge chunk, but thing is some other calls have better overall damage over time using small calls

[plain river]

demeter is good for just applying chill not great damage without her tier 2’s though

[tight basin]

dem just exists, it's not good damage and is only good for applying chill

[random perch]

Ah fair
Yeah I've noticed Artemis call isn't good for 1 Gauge, only full

[plain river]

It’s free iframes at 1 gauge

[plain river]

That’s because it’s 10* the damage on one gauge at full gauge

[random perch]

If I could time that I'd use it but ain't happening lmao

[plain river]

but zeus and dio will do more damage faster with a lot of small calls

[tight basin]

it's a generous frame iirc

[plain river]

Like nanas said

[tight basin]

if you see a hit coming and you use call, you'll get it most of the time

[random perch]

So speaking of Artemis
I've used her keepsake like 20+ times and still can't ever get whatever the hell Exit Wounds is to show up and fulfill that Prophecy
It actually can't be just RNG anymore I'm missing something right
I'm at well over 100 runs, it should absolutely show up especially with all my Fated Persuasion uses
What makes it show up

[plain river]

You aren’t missing anything

[acoustic vale]

There's a reason I don't play rhythm games

[plain river]

It has no prerequisite

[plain river]

Wait you’ve been running trippy flare right

[tight basin]

shot*

[random perch]

Wow! That's....
Artemis is now worst waifu.

[plain river]

They cannot be combined with trippy shot

that’s the issue

[tight basin]

can't be combined with casts that dont lodge

[random perch]

I mean I don't do it consistently I just picked it up a few times today

[plain river]

Your problem is you’re running trippy shot

Or some other non-lodging cast

[random perch]

No, 95% of the time I don't mess with casts that don't lodge

So RNG just hates me that much?

[tight basin]

just unlucky then lol

yeah

[plain river]

Yup

[random perch]

.

[plain river]

Artemis is best waifu

🔫

This is a threat

[tight basin]

[plain river]

oh true

Artemis second best waifu
Bouldy best waifu

[tight basin]

TRUE

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523766637757726722/835126879341772810/bouldypet.gif

[plain river]

[spare flare]

Ugh. Zeus shield hammer making me pick between Charged Shot and Explosive Return.

[tight basin]

explosive return is better unless you want to ignore most of the special and just cshot your way to victory lol

[spare flare]

Doesn't matter. Damned RNG gave me barely any offensive boons, almost none in Tartarus, so I ran out of TD2 time against the Elysium heroes.

[tight basin]

Damn it do be like that

[rose nexus]

Pain

When I tried Zeus it was underwhelming

[spare flare]

I like the aspect. It does a lot. I don't blame the aspect at all.

Just, you know, when all of the decent boons are common, and all of the good boons are not appearing at all unless you count epic Electric Shot 90% of the way through Tartarus, it's a bit hard to make good time.

[rose nexus]

Electric shot is a good boon?

[proven osprey]

I don't think Zeus needs boons to clear

[cunning urchin]

It is.

[tender latch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523766637757726722/835126879341772810/bouldypet.gif

[tender latch]

Just bc it isn't one of the castspect top choices doesn't mean it's bad 😔

It's really nice for just clearing multiple weak enemies

If you don't have tdash it's helpful in styx since you can just stun several enemies at once/kill small ones easily

[gusty rapids]

electric shot is pretty solid yeah

good boon

[tender latch]

I've had a couple eris runs that just happened to pick up zeus cast

easy way to clear spread enemies without using ammo

[soft kiln]

on hera with arty attack and ares third should i go into aspho with demeter or poseidon?

[tender latch]

100% dem, she's by a good margin the second most important god to get on hera

Hera isn't bugwolf so you don't get double damage from mirage

It's nice to pick up if you stumble into it but not really the best thing to build into

[soft kiln]

well i messed up

oh well

[tender latch]

why'd you ask and then go poseidon anyway lmao

[soft kiln]

because it took 3 minutes, i have adhd and i got bored

[plain river]

Facts

Ask now, act now, get answers later

[tender latch]

based

[proven osprey]

actually based yeah

[magic dagger]

heresy

[wicked adder]

so whats good hera builds

[tender latch]

Artemis isn't even a waifu she's a homie

[tender latch]

90+% of the time you want a heavily leveled aphrodite cast, and demeter as a supporting god with key boons being snow burst and ravenous will to give you some easy aoe + more global damage respectively

It's especially reliable and easy to get going because of that; only really caring a ton about 2 gods is super helpful for consistency in a build

Artemis is always appreciated, too, but don't go out of your way for her.

[wicked adder]

arty for attk?

[wicked adder]

this distinction eludes me. every gf is also a bestie

[cunning urchin]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IHgXN-_iYn3G2BWUJ05GSi0Qm4j4FsE0yPNM3stKpOE/edit

[tender latch]

But not all besties are gfs

[wicked adder]

yep

[rose nexus]

Every homie is a husband

[magic dagger]

no.

[rose nexus]

Man I would hate to be your homie then

[wicked adder]

husband is different from gf imo

there are two genders. husband and gf

[plain river]

The only 2 genders are husband and gf

Wait no

There is a third

Bouldy

You’re either a husband, a gf, or a bouldy

🧠

[rose nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/resident-evil5-biohazard5-chris-redfield-punching-boulder-gif-16040328

Live footage of bouldy guest starring in RE

[wicked adder]

hades fans going outside and seeing a large rock

[rose nexus]

hades fans going outside

[wicked adder]

nemesis builds anyone?

[plain river]

aphro attack arte special heart rend
Arte attack aphro special heart rend
Merciful end

arti attack athena special aphro dash is omega highroll but also based if you hit both deadly reversal and heart rend

[wicked adder]

interesting

whats merciful end again

and why is this a good build

[plain river]

Doom strike athena special find merciful end duo and get athena dash

Dash strike through everything all your dash strikes prok doom while the deflect from your dash drops the doom instantly

[wicked adder]

wb cast

just whatever?

[plain river]

I mean true shot opens deadly reversal in this case

[wicked adder]

why would lodging be better than a dps one

[plain river]

Because only castpects use dps casts

[wicked adder]

what?

[plain river]

Normal weapons use lodging casts because they get their dps from sttack and sprcial

so boiling blood

I am unable to spell

[wicked adder]

but why cant you just use cast?

i dont really understand

you cant buff attack and special that much

how

like how tho

[plain river]

castpects are the ones that use cast for dps

Otherwise boiling blood from lodging is buffing your attack and special

[wicked adder]

but what id your attack and special arent good lol

[plain river]

which means more dps for the parts of your build that matter

[wicked adder]

like i dont get it

[plain river]

Wdym

[wicked adder]

im playing sword

[plain river]

You want boiling blood

Your attack is good

You just need to dash strike

[wicked adder]

literally 0

i tried running boiling blood a few times but it was so much worse than the uh ares arti boon

not having thag killed me multiple times

[plain river]

Hunting blades isn’t the be all end all

[thorn tendon]

play the game however you want

[wicked adder]

im asking how i can make lodging casts work for me

[plain river]

Just shoot them at high hp targets

[wicked adder]

they feel so weak i dont get it

???

[plain river]

It is not the cast itself doing the damage
It’s the boiling blood giving your attack and special better damage

[wicked adder]

why

[wicked adder]

yeah. and that feels weak

[plain river]

which is, when you aren’t using a castpect, your main source of damage is coming from attack and special

[wicked adder]

i do way less damage

[plain river]

Because you don’t know what to build

[wicked adder]

okay?

yes?

idk whats a good boon

[plain river]

How should they know

They’re literally asking for builds

Aphrodite attack and artemis special on nem gets you heart rend and big attack damage

Make sure you are dash striking

if you see double edge take it

You can swap them

It’s practically interchangable on nem

[wicked adder]

girl whats dash striking

im constantly dashing

[plain river]

That relies on you getting other attack addiitve

[wicked adder]

am i not always dash striking

[plain river]

Attsck and dash at the same time

It’ll look like a thrust

[wicked adder]

who attacks without dashing

[plain river]

but it doesn’t count as a thrust for cruel thrust hammer btw

[wicked adder]

sad

i know

[plain river]

Otherwise since you’ve aphrodite in the build you can take zeus call hope for smair as well

Boiling damage will give you good damage if your dps is coming from your attack and/or special
Like is the case with nem