h1-discussion

[patent mesa]

I've never gotten it in a single build where I wasn't trying to sell it afterwards

[acoustic bolt]

i would be cool with it having no damage bonus and just making all casts auto backstabs

[rustic vale]

so just

[latent moon]

that's just a damage boost lol

[rustic vale]

free +50% or more cast damage for nothing?

that's not interesting

[patent mesa]

sounds good to me

[latent moon]

to be fair that's more or less the same concept as mirage shot

[acoustic bolt]

most of the game is just flat damage increases what do you mean

[patent mesa]

synergizes with the well item and chaos backstab

[latent moon]

except instead of a second shot it's just more damage

[acoustic bolt]

fine it does that and it has a cooooool animation

[patent mesa]

would also make nyx keepsake a valid pick

[rustic vale]

at least mirage shot is interesting though because it's not just a 1.3* damage increase

[latent moon]

what does that do

[patent mesa]

some sort of buff to backstab and first hit

[acoustic bolt]

you mean the change would create more dynamic build choices?

[latent moon]

an actual back stab build lol

[rustic vale]

it's an actual doubling of the effects of the cast along side the damage increase

[acoustic bolt]

sounds terrible

[patent mesa]

yeah I think it would actually be a meaningful change and not just a stat boost

it would tilt the scales towards shadow presence at the high end as well which is cool

[acoustic bolt]

i kinda miss using shadow presence

[latent moon]

and make beo more busted if it can get both mirage shot and parting shot lol

[latent moon]

use it with spear, sword, or fists

[acoustic bolt]

noted

i am truly awful at sword and fists

[latent moon]

time to learn lol

[patent mesa]

tbh that would make the passion beo build incredibly strong since it would have a duo scaling option like pos mirage

[acoustic bolt]

i guess it tracks, i always play mages in online games

[patent mesa]

so just make flares incompatible

[latent moon]

valid lol

no need to break beo even more

[patent mesa]

they already can't use parting shot I'm 99% sure

[acoustic bolt]

so just tbc you lot normally ignore core boons for the third and fourth god?

does having more of the requirements for something make it more likely to appear?

[patent mesa]

technically it's good to fill with a third god if all cores are now filled and that god only opens a duo with one of your other two core gods

[latent moon]

wiki doesnt say anything about it but not sure

[patent mesa]

assuming the additional duo is useless

[rustic vale]

I don't ignore core boons from third or fourth god

I just ignore the cores boons that open up duos I don't want

[patent mesa]

if that duo has merit then it's even more worth to fill cores

if it opens two duos however that's when it's bad

[latent moon]

i ignore core boons from third or fourth gods if it's not pommable

[patent mesa]

yeah athena dash is good for that reason

[acoustic bolt]

do you often favor pom rooms over god rooms if your core build is done?

[patent mesa]

since it's been nerfed it no longer opens up a lot of duos

[latent moon]

but generally always take core boons unless it opens duos

[patent mesa]

meaning it can be taken safer than most other cores

[rustic vale]

depends on the current boons I have

if like the core boons and duos are there but there are boons I might like to have then I think I'd go for the god

[latent moon]

if it's a new god and it's a god i like i might take it to secure them in the god pool but if i haven't gotten a lot of poms yet then i might take the pom

[rustic vale]

but if i want more poms on say my dio special then like of course

[acoustic bolt]

ok but you ignore boons that meet requirements for things you don't care about

[rustic vale]

until my core build is done

[latent moon]

pretty much yeah

[acoustic bolt]

how do you know what is an isn't pommable

[latent moon]

a lot of games

[rustic vale]

after my core build is done it doesn't really matter if they open up new duos since it isn't getting in my way

[latent moon]

after a while you learn what is or isn't pommable, but there's very few gods that dont have a pommable boon that isn't legendary/duo

i think i worded that weird

[acoustic bolt]

i lost track of that sentence

[latent moon]

yeah lmao

very few gods have boons that can't be pommed

and obv legendaries and duos can't be pommed

[acoustic bolt]

but if you're ignoring boons that CAN be pommed doesn't that mean you're ignoring most boons?

[rustic vale]

things like strong drink or the athena death defiance granters can't be pommed iirc

[rustic vale]

yes 💪💪💪

[latent moon]

i mean if it's not important to the build then yeah you want to ignore it

[patent mesa]

there's a list

[acoustic bolt]

also do you just see a ton of duos if you qualify? i've gone entire runs without finding what i want

[patent mesa]

nope duos are pretty rare

[acoustic bolt]

so this is a marginal benefit

[patent mesa]

it's not worth planning a build around getting more than one

[latent moon]

most builds generally only need 1 or none

[acoustic bolt]

i'm asking about ignoring cores so you don't qualify for more

[patent mesa]

my frustration with the rng in the game has led me away from duo reliant builds because some runs they just never show up

pride based builds that rely on good fundamentals are the best

[acoustic bolt]

pride based?

[rustic vale]

god's pride

as opposed to god's legacy

[acoustic bolt]

ohhh

[latent moon]

i mean it's generally better to ignore cores so you can guarantee the 1 duo that shows up is gonna be the one you want

[acoustic bolt]

hestia is my favorite

[rustic vale]

lucifer

anyways

[latent moon]

they're all pretty good ngl

[rustic vale]

I'm joking, as long as it isn't zag rail it's great

[latent moon]

eris can do big damage, hestia can 1 shot a lot of things, zag is just more ammo so can't complain, lucifer is idk lucifer i guess it's good lol

[acoustic bolt]

speaking of when you play hestia are you constantly specialing every shot while reloading?

[latent moon]

ideally yeah

free damage

can help you reach break points if needed

[acoustic bolt]

so difficult XD

[latent moon]

yeah lol

[patent mesa]

eris is usually considered the best

[acoustic bolt]

break points?

[warm nimbus]

samee

[latent moon]

minimum damage required to kill something

[warm nimbus]

honestly the reason i dont play beo

[patent mesa]

this is passion beo erasure

[warm nimbus]

true

also i lost a 50 run earlier with tosd, tos, tos, jolted, splash dash, arty special, etc

[latent moon]

if youre empowered shot barely leaves a certain type of enemy with 1 hp, you can special while reloading and then 1 shot that enemy afterwards

[warm nimbus]

i just suck at eris hades lol

[patent mesa]

what the heck is tos

[warm nimbus]

terms of service

[patent mesa]

oh okay

[warm nimbus]

touch of styx stupid

its like tosd

but without the d

[patent mesa]

wow toxic @ mods

[latent moon]

touch of styx dummy

[warm nimbus]

my feet are really cold rn

[patent mesa]

delta?

[warm nimbus]

ye

clockets wouldve shredded him lmao

[patent mesa]

huh weird

EM4?

[warm nimbus]

no

[patent mesa]

geez that's a bummer

[warm nimbus]

dad is just hard to play safe on eris

unlike smth like hestia

the i frames from dashes dont really help much there tbh

i was also playing terribly but thats besides the point

[acoustic bolt]

what is the hades keepsake FOR exactly

do you just use it so you don't get offered calls?

[patent mesa]

hm on both my eris 50s I just dpsed him down

[warm nimbus]

crazy damage

dad call is insane

[acoustic bolt]

ooh please elaborate

[patent mesa]

that's one perk of it

[warm nimbus]

it gives you +100% damage and +50% move speed for 2 seconds

[patent mesa]

yeah so basically use full dad call then unload all your damage

[acoustic bolt]

does it give you iframes the way other calls do

[patent mesa]

simple as that

[warm nimbus]

so if you have hyper delivery thats +200% damage just from dad call

which is insane on smth like beo or clockets

[latent moon]

is that for 5 sec?

[patent mesa]

I thought it was 5s

[warm nimbus]

no, small call works just as well

[rustic vale]

isn't rush delivery+hades call bugged? I asked on the speedrun server and I think they said it was

[warm nimbus]

no its 2 seconds

smh

[acoustic bolt]

what's clockets

[warm nimbus]

you people

[warm nimbus]

cluster bomb + rocket bomb

[acoustic bolt]

oh

[patent mesa]

huh interesting

[warm nimbus]

its very powerful

[acoustic bolt]

full call is only 2 seconds?

[patent mesa]

wait I'm confused

[warm nimbus]

both are i think

am i stupid?

[patent mesa]

wiki says small call is 2s and until first attack

big call is 5s

[acoustic bolt]

shoot it at enemies and then run at them

so you're inside when it lands

[warm nimbus]

oh wait big call is 5s

[warm nimbus]

also its not until first attack lol

i think

unless im big stupid

[patent mesa]

wiki says ... for 2 seconds (or until he strikes)

[latent moon]

i think you lose invisibility on first atk but you still keep the buffs?

[patent mesa]

so idk

[warm nimbus]

im almost positive that isnt correct

[warm nimbus]

^^^

[patent mesa]

where are the megasweats

[latent moon]

because you def do keep the buffs after the first atk, you can see that with beo pretty easily

[warm nimbus]

@ someone good please help

[patent mesa]

@raw herald teach us about sigil please

[warm nimbus]

is he even awake lmao

[patent mesa]

idk I just like pinging him

[latent moon]

if not he's about to be

[warm nimbus]

who can we ping thats actually awake

[hot ether]

what are yall talkin bout?

[latent moon]

hades sigil

because we all dont remember how it works lol

[warm nimbus]

were discussing the intricacies of how it works

[patent mesa]

what if we ping rmacinty even more

that should work

[warm nimbus]

lemme ask in the good people discord

aka speedcord

[hot ether]

lmao I have no idea about the sigils of hades

[latent moon]

i'm like 90% certain this is right but the description in game and on the wiki isn't clear

[acoustic bolt]

is there a list of builds that favor god's pride?

[rustic vale]

anything that isn't duo heavy

[latent moon]

basically all builds that isn't beo tbh

[acoustic bolt]

so definitely not ME

[patent mesa]

even ME often wants pride

[latent moon]

ME is personal preference imo

but i learn more towards pride yeah

[patent mesa]

it's already highroll so add in a little more, then you get better chance for decent impending and GR

[latent moon]

common doom sucks ass so you want that to be a good rarity

[warm nimbus]

common doom is awful lol

so bad

[latent moon]

lvl 7 common doom = lvl 3 epic doom lol

[warm nimbus]

honestly when i try me builds i just reset for epic doom

[latent moon]

valid

sometimes when i see an epic atk at the start im like "i could totally do ME but i'm too lazy"

[patent mesa]

based

[latent moon]

and then take the common cast because i'm using beo

[warm nimbus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845087923779141682/998473253590945872/unknown.png

[patent mesa]

bruh why does no one know this stuff

[warm nimbus]

so there we go

[warm nimbus]

idk man

[latent moon]

well you do keep the buff so we weren't wrong

[patent mesa]

I feel like I'm on the subreddit and we're talking about how hermes works

[warm nimbus]

lmaoo

ive gotten 3 hermes before styx before

[patent mesa]

I've gotten 1sack before

[warm nimbus]

ive gotten like 5 hammers in a run before it was amazing

[patent mesa]

one time every single chamber reward for the entire run was hammers

I even got the super secret erebus hammer

[warm nimbus]

i think they were cluster bomb, rocket bomb, hazard bomb, triple bomb, and targeting system

so it was a pretty good run

[patent mesa]

sounds okay I guess

[warm nimbus]

yeah it wasnt as good as my arty attack fists build

that was insane

zag fists are cracked

[patent mesa]

arty attack fists is good because it opens up seeking fire

[warm nimbus]

yeah

[patent mesa]

zeus attack in shambles tbh

[warm nimbus]

why would you put zeus attack on anything?

[acoustic bolt]

what should i do with a chiron run starting with athena

[warm nimbus]

you want zeus on your cast

[acoustic bolt]

take athena dash and try building triple a?

[patent mesa]

uh yeah probably

[warm nimbus]

you could go for le epic meme and do ME chiron

but i dont recommend

[patent mesa]

bruh

would that be athena attack dire misfortune special or something dumb like that

[warm nimbus]

yes

[acoustic bolt]

well it is an opportunity to try god's pride

[warm nimbus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845087923779141682/998474470845059122/unknown.png

update

so its like legit the same lmao

[patent mesa]

wtf why is it so imprecise

[warm nimbus]

you just keep the buffs

i dont think they know how the call works tbh

i think they just hit button and damage

[patent mesa]

so small call good for speedrunning

[acoustic bolt]

i feel like fiery presence isn't that great on chiron

[warm nimbus]

100%

crazy burst damage

esp on smth like beo

[latent moon]

i dont think anyone knows how the call works tbh

[patent mesa]

but big call is safer since you're fully invincible

[latent moon]

all we know is "hit button do big damage in short time"

[warm nimbus]

yeah but like why would you do that in any run

[patent mesa]

yeah shadow is usually better

[warm nimbus]

instaphase dad for extra safety

ok but think about it

dad call with epic hyper delivery is +200% damage

[hot ether]

yall said hyper sprint is good right?

[warm nimbus]

thats so insane

[latent moon]

yes

[warm nimbus]

yes, it opens up rush delivery

[latent moon]

opens up rd and even if you dont get it it's still really solid

[hot ether]

ok im guessing its better than side hustle and swift strike

[warm nimbus]

yes

[acoustic bolt]

how do we feel about starting with plume to try and get rush delivery early on chiron

[latent moon]

hermes doesnt show up until asphodel anyways tho

unless you buy from shop

but that's not guaranteed in the first place

[acoustic bolt]

it is not guaranteed but i will do it if it's there

[hot ether]

i got hermes in my shop before the fury fight

like just right now

[rustic vale]

by a literal mile

[latent moon]

rd isn't great with plume unless you buy more speed

and then afterwards you're gonna be fishing for hyper spring which also isn't a guarantee to begin with

[hot ether]

see i think ive used hs before and just didnt like the 100% faster movement for whatever reason

[warm nimbus]

not great, rush delivery is useless without extra move speed

and by unequipping plume you just lose the small amount of movespeed that you had

its better to just go hyper sprint -> rd

[rustic vale]

hs is used a lot more for it's interaction with rush delivery and I guess also free damage reduction

[latent moon]

get rush delivery then hs is amazing lol

[hot ether]

ok and how do I get rd

[acoustic bolt]

ok i'll go with orpheus keepsake then

i'm just trying to max out keepsakes

[latent moon]

get lucky with hermes

[rustic vale]

have greater haste or hyper sprint from hermes

[latent moon]

and that

[rustic vale]

or the keepsake but don't take the keepsake to find it

[hot ether]

Hey i just got luckly lamo

[patent mesa]

taking plume sometimes isn't the worst idea

hera runners take plume for chance at legendary, it also does increase chance of ending with hyper delivery

[hot ether]

ok I love this set up

[latent moon]

you prob already have a guaranteed start with aphro tho

if you know you're gonna start with aphro with a good atk then you can take any non-god keepsake

so either mom pom or plume in this case i guess

[acoustic bolt]

starting with athena unfortunately

gonna need to get lucky for this to come together

[lean timber]

L

[hot ether]

I started this run with Zeus

[lean timber]

W

[warm nimbus]

on hera?

[acoustic bolt]

and god a zeus room. zeus chiron is meh, but i could take cast and force poseidon in asphodel

[patent mesa]

yeah

[latent moon]

oh i misread that as hestia oops

[warm nimbus]

doesnt hera do pride lmao

[patent mesa]

if they have nothing better to take

[warm nimbus]

hera generally takes hourglass i thought

when nothing else

or purse in aspho

i didnt realize they took plume lol

[patent mesa]

looks like they actually do take legacy

[rustic vale]

force pos for what

[warm nimbus]

?!?!?!?!

what

[lean timber]

LEGACY GAMING

[patent mesa]

yeah that's sus to me but idk

[warm nimbus]

oh huh they do take legacy

[lean timber]

LEGACY NUMERO UNOOOOO

[warm nimbus]

i couldve sword they didnt

oh wait i forgot legendary on hera wasnt bad news

[patent mesa]

just in case mirage shows up is my guess

[rustic vale]

mirage on chiron 🤨

wait nevermind

[warm nimbus]

mirage is a bit lucky to get on hera i thought

[rustic vale]

I got mixed up between 2 different convos

[warm nimbus]

bc you already are gunning for crush shot and snow burst

[patent mesa]

indeed

but I guess it's just mega highroll

[warm nimbus]

but yeah the scuffed hera guide says they do take legacy

like wtf

i guess it kinda makes sense?

idk

but yeah on hera hermes is epic and amazing

[patent mesa]

huh the guide calls pride highroll

[warm nimbus]

bc both hs->rd and qr->gr are amazing

[patent mesa]

so good hera runs just require mirage?

wack

[warm nimbus]

oh wait yeah actually legacy kinda makes sense on hera now that i think about it

[patent mesa]

I'm still confused

[warm nimbus]

bc the arty/aphro/pos triangle of duos are all great

[patent mesa]

oh sweet nectar

[warm nimbus]

yeah

and heart rend

heart rend is good if you get arty attack

[patent mesa]

hm it makes sense to me now too

[warm nimbus]

you generally go for something like arty attack aphro cast pos dash i think

and then try to get duos and poms

and then you just gamer

and also can get bwave for dash styx shredder

bc hera kinda sad in styx

so yeah legacy actually makes sense

but croven runs pride

ig hes just highrolling?

idk

i give up

[patent mesa]

must be

[hot ether]

is there anyway to know which satyr tunnel will have the item your looking for(trying to not spoil anything)

[rustic vale]

no

there is none

[hot ether]

its just a guessing game

[rustic vale]

well

it's guaranteed to not show up in your first tunnel

[acoustic bolt]

i get hyper sprint and rush delivery for basically free but then arty doesn't give me special and then i get forced into taking ares and don't get an attack

some runs man wow

[rustic vale]

you get good runs and you get bad runs

you just have to go with it

take w's anyways

[hot ether]

i had a pretty good run then lost to dad, but ive got my off stream file now caught up

[warm nimbus]

theres like a 54% chance for 2 sack and 31% for 3 i think

and then idk after that

[hot ether]

ok bc like there are times where I wanna go through the other tunnels but also want to fight the final with full hp

[warm nimbus]

yeah you should never really go through the extra tunnels

[rustic vale]

I mean if you aren't running td and you want to go into dad fight as strong as possible

[patent mesa]

agreed, pre mega heat / speedrunning taking extra tunnels is fine

esp if you have the spearpoint to maintain resources

[rustic vale]

running spearpoint instead of orpheus keepsake /j

[warm nimbus]

nah i dont think going into extra tunnels casually helps much

bc you just lose hp

and often by end of styx your build already has most if not all the stuff it could even want

[rustic vale]

easy, just get bag at tunnel 5 so you can justify it

[warm nimbus]

i mean if theres something you still really need you can do it

but otherwise i dont think the hp lost is worth it

esp bc theyre not miniboss tunnels

[latent moon]

use mods to guarantee a 5 sack

[patent mesa]

tbh if your build isn't losing to dad taking the tunnels is also just fun

[warm nimbus]

oh yes absolutely

[patent mesa]

I used to do it all the time and kinda miss it tbh

[latent moon]

the tunnels are fun, the end room isn't fun

[warm nimbus]

if you want to experience the sweet joy of styx shredder for 12 more rooms im not stopping you

[patent mesa]

is styx shredder another name for heroic titan toppler

[warm nimbus]

yes

100 damage dash is insane

after a few poms, ofc

[patent mesa]

that reminds me how much damage does rma's profile picture do

[warm nimbus]

about 100

[patent mesa]

huh nice

[latent moon]

big damage

[patent mesa]

101 to be exact

broken

[warm nimbus]

im trying to find it but thats too hard

[warm nimbus]

what howd you gfind that

cheater

[patent mesa]

cheat engine

[warm nimbus]

what a cheat enginer

[patent mesa]

I remembered looking at this sheet that gives pom values for all boons

[warm nimbus]

oh

still cheating tho

[patent mesa]

of course

wait that's not including FF

[warm nimbus]

what aspect weas t one?

[patent mesa]

bruh

[warm nimbus]

wow that was atrocious

what aspect was it on?

[patent mesa]

sadly heroic titan toppler was a photoshop

[warm nimbus]

WHAT

[patent mesa]

I did a run a long time ago and got about lvl25 heroic titan toppler on gilgy

but I was bad and died to dad

[warm nimbus]

wait what

[patent mesa]

think gilgy is best aspect for it

[warm nimbus]

are you serious?

[patent mesa]

yeah he didn't actually get lvl40 sadly

this must be a big loss for you

[warm nimbus]

i

my life is ruined

wtf @raw herald

how could you @raw herald

[patent mesa]

@raw herald you have foresaken us

[warm nimbus]

you lied to me @raw herald

i trusted you @raw herald

[patent mesa]

we all did

[warm nimbus]

im

this is so sad

[patent mesa]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/899871259070971935/998486304293654619/temp.png

[warm nimbus]

bruh

[lean timber]

NOOOOOOOOO

[warm nimbus]

my life is ruined

[acoustic bolt]

lol special is the only core i'm missing and i find another arty boon and it's hunter dash

i'm in elysium and still don't have a special for chiron

[rustic vale]

just take shackle

[acoustic bolt]

i'm in chamber 31 it's a little late for that

[rustic vale]

no it isn't

[warm nimbus]

shackle chiron kinda cursed

id just force like arty special in styx

[acoustic bolt]

i forced arty in asphodel and got pressure points

[rustic vale]

well

you'll find more arte boons unless you get really unlucky

[acoustic bolt]

i have found 1 more

and it was support fire

[warm nimbus]

special wasnt offered?

rip

[acoustic bolt]

nope

i've been offered zeus and ares specials only

[slow snow]

https://i.imgur.com/T38B4TZ.png

[surreal tartan]

I’ve had the aspect of zagreus maxed for every weapon for quite a few runs now and still haven’t gotten the conversations with Achilles, Nyx, Artemis, Asteriud, Zeus, and Chaos? Please tell me Aspect of Zagreus counts, I read in comments somewhere that it doesn’t but just about every article says it does.

(Gotten the conversations to unlock the Hidden Aspects, that is)

[void vigil]

it doesnt count for unlocking the very first hidden aspect

you need to unlock 5 separate aspects for that

not spent 5 titan blood on a weapon

and you need the first hidden aspect to unlock the rest, so you need 5 different aspects unlocked to start with

[raw herald]

I’m so sorry @patent mesa @warm nimbus

[surreal tartan]

This made things very clear, thank you

[dull niche]

i need to update that guide pride is the standard these days. while the duos u can get on hera are good, they’re not going to be what actually scales you. chaos rarity, Hermes rarity, and to a lesser extent snow burst rarity are what ur looking for. heart rend is cool but over half my runs these days don’t even take arty attack, just whatever shows up first. legacy kind of limits you to the arty poseidon aphro god pool for no real reason; hera doesn’t need to be that limited

[brisk trail]

Maybe someone can tell me what happened here.
Was fighting the final boss. He did his teleport into the sweep attack. He did the teleport with no sweep after and I took 40 damage when he teleported back in

Is the teleport it’s own attack that can hit you outside of the sweep? That’s so stupid

[old kayak]

i need help with a quest ||i am a bit confused on how to get Euridice and Orpheus together||

[acoustic bolt]

do things that increase the rarity of boons you acquire increase the chance of a legendary or duo? like refreshing nectar or chaos stuff?

[warm nimbus]

ah ok

i couldve sworn pride was standard lol

ty

[old kayak]

is that for my question

[acoustic bolt]

no i was just wondering

[brisk trail]

Ok I figured out what happened, the red attack flash never happened so I didn’t realize he did the move or where the hotbox was, he was just standing in the pose he does after the sweep and I walked into the invisible lingering hit box and died. GG’s.

This is the first time in 40 deaths that I’ve actually felt cheated out of a run

[acoustic bolt]

so i realize the response to this is just beowolf is busted but

trippy shot + festive fog + splitting bolt + double strike

jesus

i jsut melted the champions and i didn't even do anything

[acoustic bolt]

jesus almost 5000 damage per bull rush at dad

[safe tinsel]

Dam

[acoustic bolt]

it was probably a lot more than 5k per bull rush because of festive fog + splitting bolt + double strike too

[safe tinsel]

[acoustic bolt]

ok what are good talos builds

[mint coral]

+10% chance for yarn/nectar/chaos favor

Exclusive access doesnt do anything for those

[mental vale]

refreshing nectar doesnt upgrade epic boons btw

[acoustic bolt]

you're saying those things increase your duo/legendary chance by 10%?

[mint coral]

Ye

[mental vale]

if you have exclusive access then the nectar wont make them heroic

unfortunately

[acoustic bolt]

oh that's ok i know

[mental vale]

biggest scam in the history of gaming

[mint coral]

Considering they never explain how those works yeah is a scam

[dawn cedar]

decided to get back into the game after over a year, i remember there being a really good athena ares combo but i can't for the life of me remember what it was

[raw herald]

Merciful end

[dawn cedar]

that sounds familiar thanks

[acoustic bolt]

ares attack + athena dash on like fists

[dawn cedar]

i actually completely forgot that duo boons existed so i had a hard time looking it up

[acoustic bolt]

speaking of is talos a good ME aspect?

[rustic vale]

Demeter would ME better than talos but ME should work good on any fist aspect

[acoustic bolt]

Why does demeter me better?

I figured you could pull packs close doom them all and dash

[rustic vale]

Well they’ll use Merciful end equally well but then occasionally you can special for damage compared to talos giving you nothing for it’s use

[acoustic bolt]

Ah

What do we have for better talos builds

[rustic vale]

Talos is kinda worse demeter

since it isn’t demeter

[acoustic bolt]

Sucking things in is a pretty unique effect

[rustic vale]

I think talos is kinda a cast weapon if I remember

[mint coral]

Talos special is also slower

And dem has the birst dmg before ME

*burst

[acoustic bolt]

Every time ive tried demeter the burst didnt feel very bursty

[latent moon]

it's more like, if you don't get ME because it's still somewhat high roll then demeter can compensate for the damage loss. talos can't really do that as well as demeter

[rustic vale]

What level is your demeter?

[acoustic bolt]

2 or 3

[latent moon]

that's probably the issue lol
at lvl 5 it hits 5 times, and if you have athena special it's gonna do a lot more damage

[rustic vale]

yup

[mint coral]

It hits like 6 or 7 actually

[latent moon]

oh does it

[mint coral]

Dem bonus is +5 hits

Not 5 hits

[latent moon]

oh right

[mint coral]

Special hits twice already

[latent moon]

dash upper is 6 hits then

[rustic vale]

but then kinetic launcher for 6 hits at 50 base damage

[acoustic bolt]

I guess I could trade in some ambrosia. Starting to get a lot of blood now

Is dash upper stronger than standing special?

[latent moon]

i think it's weaker but faster

[rustic vale]

Standing special is 30 twice

[mint coral]

If you have exploding upper is prob stronger

[rustic vale]

Dash upper is 40 once

[latent moon]

exploding upper is my favorite hammer lmao

[raw herald]

Dash upper is better overall

[latent moon]

an extra 100% damage on the charged upper lol

[raw herald]

And giga cutter with dash upper is more damage as well

6x40>7x30

[acoustic bolt]

Im sad talos is so much worse. Poseidon special talos seemed funny with river shoals

[rustic vale]

kinetic launcher is my favourite dem hammer because power shotting on special

[mint coral]

Yo yo talos is fun

[rustic vale]

Pos talos is ping pong

[latent moon]

ping pong

[rustic vale]

Kinetic launcher can power shot and that’s definitely why it’s better then rush kick and not because 6 * 50>7 * 40

[old kayak]

how does weakness work

[latent moon]

enemies hit with it will deal less damage

they deal like 30% less damage or something

[mint coral]

How much is the power shot anyways

[rustic vale]

Uh

+10 base damage I believe

Iirc

[old kayak]

that is kinda bad imo

[latent moon]

i mean it's eh

but aphrodite has the largest % buff in the game

[rustic vale]

the enemy deals 30% less damage

[warm nimbus]

thought it was 10% lol

[rustic vale]

But the boon % and duos are more important then the base effect

[latent moon]

idk wiki said 30

[mint coral]

Bruh

[warm nimbus]

what

[rustic vale]

Correct

[warm nimbus]

my life has been changed

[mint coral]

Bronze skin moment

Or athena/pos duo

[rustic vale]

Purple bronze skin moment

[warm nimbus]

30% is insane

thats like

hl-1.5

[rustic vale]

Athena pos duo only working against bosses 🤡

[old kayak]

ii took a epic passion dash then got a heroic thunder dash get screwed Aphrodite

[latent moon]

lmao

[hollow path]

i've been playing too much that i see hades and theseus' white spinning thing before doing a sweep

[old kayak]

greater evasion is like the worst boon

[rustic vale]

Bronze skin exists

[old kayak]

well i am not that good at the game so i need some resistanse

[rustic vale]

Greater evasion literally does a better job at reducing incoming damage then bronze skin though

[hot ether]

That is really funny actually lol

[old kayak]

why is the fight against thesesus and the bull so hard

[acoustic bolt]

try to only focus on the bull first. when he's attacking, especially when he jumps you can dash through him

i've only been playing a few weeks and it's become natural now. just practice.

just pay attention to when theseus is throwing the spear and try to dodge behind a pillar if you need to

[old kayak]

i had a save file that got corrupted and on that old save it was like 35 hours 2 wins and on the new save 15 hours 6 wins

[acoustic bolt]

i'm 27/58 escapes

i have no idea if that's good XD

i think the extreme measures hydra is harder than the regular champs, but i think the regular champs is harder than dad

[old kayak]

6 escapes out of 52

[acoustic bolt]

https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-build-guide

this helped me a lot and asking questions here

[rustic vale]

That’s almost 50% win rate, sweet!

[acoustic bolt]

thanks 😄 i'm sure it'll dip once i'm getting into higher heats though lol

[warm nimbus]

epic greater evasion is 20% which actually isnt that bad

i take it over a lot of other hermes boons in high heat

[acoustic bolt]

@safe tinsel i'm responding here for actual conversation

if you're experiencing anything like i did, i was confused about how dad's spin attack worked

the thin first spin is just a telegraph. so you dodge like a second after that spin to dodge the real attack

for the lasers in the last phase you can just hide behind rocks

[patent mesa]

the telegraphed spin should deal damage and stun you like tisiphone tbh

otherwise dad is too easy

[acoustic bolt]

you guys gotta stop telling people who are having trouble that things are easy

that's not helpful it just makes people feel bad

[safe tinsel]

But yeah ypu can see it with theseus as well, there is a sort of thread looking thing outline

[patent mesa]

is joke

[acoustic bolt]

i'm telling you it didn't seem like a joke to me. pretty likely that i'm not alone in my experience. i'm just saying if we as a community want to help new players, it's messed up to alienate them when they're asking for help. can't always assume people know you're kidding.

besides are you even kidding? or is dad not em4 too easy for you? lol

[patent mesa]

um

I mean what I "suggested" would be blatantly unfair so I assumed it was obvious enough of a joke

[acoustic bolt]

i'm sorry i had several wins before i even realized the telegraph was only a telegraph. it's possible i'm an idiot, but it also just might not be that obvious to everyone :p

anyway i know i've been talkative a lot since i got here, but i am new so maybe my experience from this side should carry some weight?

[patent mesa]

eh you're right tbh, I've been new to game communities where people have particular injokes and mini cultures of conversation that were misleading from an outsider point of view as well

thanks for the insight

[acoustic bolt]

thank you for listening 🙂

[patent mesa]

oh and yeah dad is pretty much never easy

so many runs I've almost thrown from being overconfident, dad is pretty much the only enemy that can drop your health in half a second no matter the build if you're careless

[mint coral]

My first time after installing the modpack ended up in a defeat to dad lol

[patent mesa]

damn lasers

[mint coral]

Like yeah Achilles risky but i didnt have a reason to tank

[patent mesa]

this is why RTA speedrunners are superior

they know they're not allowed to facetank through DDs

[acoustic bolt]

i keep almost losing runs because i'm trying to time calls right for dad's attacks and then forget i'm not impervious anymore

RTA?

[mint coral]

Real time attack

Speedruns not using the in game timer basically

And loading screens/transitions count

[patent mesa]

and in particular using death defiances burns a lot of time unlike IGT

[mint coral]

On switch you also can see if you got asterius as a miniboss cause the loading screen is longer

[acoustic bolt]

do they skip fishing too? or do they stop the timer for that like civilized people?

[mint coral]

Was legit sad lol

[mint coral]

Skip

You also dont fish on igt unless you wanna pull off fish tech

[acoustic bolt]

truly the darkest timeline

fish tech?

[patent mesa]

wait does fishtech work like nyxtech

[mint coral]

So you know how Than needs to leave a heart most of the time to leave?

You normally use a menu (boon/pom/hammer) so the timer keeps being stopped so he drops reward and bye

[latent moon]

oh fishing pauses the timer while than drops the heart that's so smart

[mint coral]

Cant do that with gold/hearts so if a fish spawn near Than dropping point, yeah

[patent mesa]

how does than work

do you need to be by dropping point alone or close to him first

[mint coral]

He just tps/walk to the drop point after the encounter after a line/dialogue mostly

Sometimes if he is walking towards it he can get stuck on pots

Is dumb

[patent mesa]

so timer for him going to drop point can't be manipulated

you just need to book it to drop point

[mint coral]

Basically

[patent mesa]

bet thanks

[mint coral]

Most of the time you oredict when is last enemy wave and let Than finish while you chill in the drop point

Tho i think Than encounters are always a 3 wave?

[latent moon]

if you purposely lose the than encounter does he still take a lot of time with the line of dialogue

[mint coral]

Not sure

Maybe is optimal to lose if the reward is a non menu?

[patent mesa]

hm interesting

of course that has to be balanced with heart helping with HC

[winged wadi]

are wips allowed in #fan-works

[mint coral]

ye

[winged wadi]

😋

[signal aspen]

yes

[latent moon]

rip

[warm nimbus]

honestly em3 is easier than dad

[pastel monolith]

on em3 do u think maybe its best to kill theseus first?

[cloud juniper]

Possibly, that could work, haven’t tried it personally but it can help to get rid of the rocket/bullets he launches so that could work. I do Asterius first cuz if you beat him at chamber 30 he loses a bit of health at the final boss I think.

Even if I don’t get his chamber I go for him anyways, it’s just how I play.

[patent mesa]

no way

[pastel monolith]

ive been trying it that way lately

hes easy to kill

.. ive had mixed results

[latent moon]

isn't the bull a much bigger threat and harder to deal with than theseus, so you should get the bull out of the way first

[pastel monolith]

maybe.. im pretty good at dodging the bull

[patent mesa]

every moment an FO2 EM asterius is up is extremely dangerous

he needs to go down first

[pastel monolith]

oh ya with fo2 all bets are off

i get hit so much on FO2 i feel like a noob

[rustic vale]

I want a flurry strike shield hammer

[patent mesa]

flurry wallop

[hot ether]

ive beaten theseus first once and it went ight, but ive always gone for the bull first

[warm nimbus]

^^this

theseus only is practically free

[mental vale]

pulverizing blow but you just hold it down and theres no cooldown

it ticks at the same speed as blitz disc

[brisk trail]

What about hades dlc someone made

[acoustic bolt]

are you talking about the apollo mod?

[torpid eagle]

Kill Asterius first 100% of the time

especially with Extreme Measures on

[old kayak]

i found a combo that melts bosses

[tall holly]

definitely, theseus call and EM3 bull is a pain in the ass

with theseus sniping you with spear

[tall holly]

good job :D

[lean timber]

is the combo heroic lv. 40 titan toppler

(tidal dash)

[tall holly]

wait that's a thing'

[lean timber]

i mean

any boon goes to any level

so yeah it's a thing

good luck getting it heroic and lv. 40 tho

[latent moon]

just get aphrodite-pos duo chamber 3

[lean timber]

easy

[vale whale]

weird question but i wanna make a minecraft build based on persephone's cottage/surface garden, does anyone have screenshots of it? i got the true ending already so i can't visit there anymore :/

[latent moon]

you could make a new save file and get there again lol

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/839538570738139146/998803008911589446/unknown.png?width=1191&height=670

[warm nimbus]

ah, parles-tu le francais?

[latent moon]

nope this is google images

[signal aspen]

Hola

[ashen swallow]

Hey so I checked out the game and it looks and plays similarly to curse of the dead gods

Pretty neat

[hot ether]

wait wut?

[brisk trail]

Any tips for Styx? I can reach it 90% of the time with 2 death defiance left and always end up losing one or both to final set of rooms looking for the satyr sack. Is there anyway to narrow down which one it’s in?

Also hades hit boxes are actually straight up trash lol, dude hits you before and after his swings constantly and just skips windups for other moves that take more than a 1/2 of your health

I got stabbed to death for 56 damage a hit last run and I swear the move has no windup at all half the time. I’m double dodging with Athena’s dodge and just getting smacked anyway

[hot ether]

i do a fun thing called brute force

but other than that there is no real way to know which one has the satyr sack

[brisk trail]

I tried that and I got stabbed to death lmfao

[hot ether]

yea... thats all she wrote when you do that lol

[brisk trail]

I’d be easier if the hit boxes didn’t linger and he had actual windups for his moves besides the sweep which he barely does

I’ve died to him 15 times probably and I still have no idea how the skulls work or when he is going to do them

I just try to dodge through them or hit them out of the air with my special and 50% of the time it works and the other 50% it just hits me anyway and then I get comboed into one of hades attacks for like 75+ damage total

[hot ether]

if you have access to the admin chamber you can see how many times youve died in a area/what boss

[brisk trail]

41 attempts, I’ve been able to reach Styx consistently since attempt 27ish

[hot ether]

also the skulls are... something, if you avoid them theyll sit there and do an aoe attack, if you get hit by the intial one idk what happens entirelly, but if you dont they have like a 5 second timer like the one bone hydra head

[brisk trail]

If you get hit by the initial head it does like 25 damage and hades 95% will stab you for an additional 56

I try to deflect them back but it only works like half the time

If that

[hot ether]

see I have not had a problem avoding the intial head, but i have had a problem with the aoe, and yea i just avoid them and deal with them after or dash for the iframe over the aoe attack they produce

[patent mesa]

shield is fantastic for that

if shield blocks the skull cast it's destroyed completely

[brisk trail]

My initial start was to try and I frame through the AOE but it never works for me. Maybe like 30% of the time I’ll get through it. 70% of the time I go through it and had no reaction but the screen says I took like 25 damage from nothing even with double dodge reflect on

[hot ether]

does shield actually shield and if so how do you get it to do its thing

[patent mesa]

press and hold attack

[brisk trail]

I’m trying to do it with sword and fists

I suck with the shield

I don’t know what’s going on maybe im just getting terrible boons

[hot ether]

dire what does the erebus gates do?

[brisk trail]

I’ve been trying for zeus aphro or ares Athena for a couple hours and haven’t gotten a single duo boon from any gods yet

[lean timber]

there's only rule for finding the storage chamber in styx: the first chamber will never have the sack. so you can either get it in tunnel 2, 3, 4 or 5. if you're lucky, you can "two sack" (getting it as soon as possible). other than that, it's total rng

[hot ether]

im guessing that was directed to me?

[lean timber]

no it was for this

[hot ether]

ah ok

[lean timber]

also, getting hit with dad's skulls inflict "boiling blood," which is a status curse that causes zagreus to take double damage while under it (you can tell when the screen is tinted orange and has a crack effect). when the curse expires, the skull is dislodged and falls onto the field, where zag can attack it

[patent mesa]

I would recommend trying again with it

[lean timber]

shield is good for bossfights

[patent mesa]

early game shield play is super basic

put a big +% or ares on attack

then shield up while dad is attacking

when he stops attacking bull rush through him and put up shield again

[latent moon]

the spin sweep has a thin white line right before he swings like theseus
the jabs and casts he throws out have less of a wind up but they're there. you can see him wind up to throw

also keep in mind that dash attacking removes your iframes so you just want to empty dash

also might be an issue with your build not having enough dps

[brisk trail]

I know about the white line the issue is you dodge out of the way of the white line he swings and it misses so you dodge back in and take damage anyway, like bruh come on it is so annoying.

It happens with Theseus also

[latent moon]

next time don't dodge back in i guess

[brisk trail]

When am I supposed to attack him if I can’t attack him after he whiffs a move?

[latent moon]

well if he hits you after you dash back in and you notice that consistently then stop doing that so you dont take the damage
there are plenty of other opportunities to atk him

you're not required to beat him in a certain time frame so you can take your time

look for opportunities rather than forcing it like that

[brisk trail]

I can get to him consistently and I’ve died enough times to him where im getting sick of it

I like the game but doing a 15 minute run you know your gonna die in the end at gets boring after the 10th time in a row

[latent moon]

whats your build?

[hot ether]

gotta say I do apperciate all the help, yall have made it so I went from like half hour runs to almost 20 min runs

[brisk trail]

I’ve been trying to use the second sword and use Athena/ares doom reflect combo or ahprodite/zeus or even Artemis/Athena also been getting similar results with Athena/ares dio/ahhprodite on the second fists weapon

[latent moon]

try aphrodite and artemis

[brisk trail]

What am I aiming for from those two? I’ve gotten that once

I tend to gravity towards dio and Athena also

Hangover on fists seems to be nuts and easier to get than good doom boons with ares

[latent moon]

their duo makes crits do more damage

heart rend or something

aphrodite atk and artemis spcl

[lean timber]

mmm heart rend

my beloved

[brisk trail]

O ya I got that once but I went into the final boss with no death defiance left cause I had to hit every Styx room first

[lean timber]

makes the bow so yummy

[brisk trail]

And I had the crit sword on

Literally perfect

[lean timber]

honestly it's like that once in a while. sometimes you just gonna run it back

you'll get there. every run you get better

[brisk trail]

Also I just got scintillating beast and jolted with 2 cast stones from chaos

Wow

[acoustic bolt]

So rama is something else

[latent moon]

yep

[brisk trail]

That second health bar is so messed up

[latent moon]

it do be like that

[brisk trail]

I’m just happy I got 2 sack and came in with 4 death defiances

It came down to the wire even with that

[latent moon]

what build did you use this time? heart rend nemesis?

[hot ether]

odd question is there an achievement for having every entry completed

[brisk trail]

Ah man I can’t post pictures

[latent moon]

post it in a different server or channel somewhere and copy the link

[latent moon]

i dont think so there might be in game dialogue about it tho

[brisk trail]

#h1-victory-boasting message

Like this?

[latent moon]

well i meant copy image link but that works too lol

[brisk trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/998845320203083846/4251b0d4-1347-4771-9d1d-cd6f2ae572aa.png

Fitting that my main source of damage was LIGHTNING

Smoldering air is nutty AF and scintillating feast is insane also, slap jolted on and it’s GG

[latent moon]

zeus atk on sword is an interesting choice lol

[brisk trail]

I got Poseidon dash at the final boon before Styx and got a 40% damage boost to the dash against dad with my final boon in Styx from Poseidon also

[latent moon]

for your atk it'd be better if you got a % based buff on it instead of flat damage but still well done

[brisk trail]

I’ve been running things like that or dio hangover or ares doom on fast attacking weapons to proc it as fast as possible. I prefer Zeus cast but I just didn’t get it

[latent moon]

sword isn't exactly too fast hitting tbh
next time go for zeus call and then smair

[brisk trail]

Call is the cast right? Or that’s the god gauge one

[latent moon]

god gauge

[brisk trail]

O I haven’t tried that one yet

[latent moon]

even by itself it's still really good imo

if you get jolted or whatever other zeus boons that buff the lightning then it's pretty great

obv with smair

and btw if you're using nemesis you really want artemis + aphrodite/athena

arty duo is more crit damage if they're weak (isn't easy to keep up) and athena duo is higher crit chance

arty on the special or atk and then aphrodite/athena on the other will beef up your dps by a lot

and since the standard sword combo is typically special-dash atk-dash atk hunter's dash isn't a bad option either

double edge is the best hammer, take dash atk or atk buffs from chaos

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/980726291437338624/unknown.png?width=1195&height=670

sorta like this except swap the special and attack gods

[brisk trail]

Any tips for a gloves build?

[latent moon]

use aspect of demeter, merciful end is always good if you get a good doom rarity at the start

otherwise zeus atk and aphrodite special is good if you dont want to high roll that much and then smair

ME is extremely strong but needs a ton of boons and luck

doom atk, athena special, athena dash, get ME duo, get impending doom, get dire misfortune

the first 4 are the most important, the last 2 are just things to ramp up your doom damage by a lot

also common doom rarity sucks ass, if you get common doom attack at the start just pick a different weapon or die to reset the seed lol

lvl 7 common doom = lvl 3 epic doom
lvl 7 epic doom does 188, lvl 7 common doom does 138 which is a pretty large difference lol

if you dont feel like rolling for rng with ME then zeus atk aphro spcl --> smair is always a good option

[brisk trail]

Demeter is really better than Zagreus?

[latent moon]

also pretty dependent on getting a lot of zeus boons but at least you're not relying on a certain duo to show up
if you dont get smair then it's not the end of the world, if you dont get ME by the time you reach hades (or even the champs or styx) then it's much more difficult. the reason why i said to use aspect of demeter is because you'll get a special that'll deal a lot of damage every 12 hits or so which isn't too bad so it's a decent back up plan if you dont get ME

[latent moon]

zag aspect might be good if you're going for the smair build, but tbh the special on demeter aspect is so chunky and can deal a ton of damage that it's worth it

if you're going ME, demeter is highly recommended so in case you dont get ME you have a back up plan

both builds benefit from the chunky special tho, since aphrodite and athena are the 2 largest % damage modifiers iirc

pair the chunky special with explosive upper and the special's gonna deal 100% extra damage so that's always nice

there's also dionysus atk and aphrodite special if you want to play a bit safer

their duo lets you stack hangover 8 times instead of 5 so that's always good

not as fast but a safer build

[brisk trail]

Thanks man I appreciate it

[high island]

Nah. Lady Aphrodite has the highest. Ladies Athena and Demeter have the lowest.

[onyx linden]

I just got 3 duos all at once

[hollow path]

im going full spin mode with ares

i have rift dash and +4 dashes and artemis+ares duo boon

i melted asterius

[hollow path]

didn't get blackmetal sadge

[raw herald]

Sadly the Artemis ares duo doesn’t apply to the dash

Just the cast

[hollow path]

yeah its fine since i got +2 cast from chaos

[pastel monolith]

i have finally seen how good blizzard shot is.. i used to be a hater now im a believer

i used to think its so slow and awkward and kinda ruins the cast, but recently i did a run and holy moly it did a lot of damage

[high island]

Have you tried it with Talos?

[tropic fossil]

Does anyone know how to get Thanatos’s favor? My gf has been trying for days but hasn’t had any luck

She already gave him 6 nectar

[high island]

Blizzard Shot's drawback is that it keeps knocking enemies out of its AOE. But Talos lets you just pull them right back into it.

[high island]

Beating Thanatos after giving him 6 Nectar will randomly prompt a discussion between the two about Zagreus being powerful enough to escape the Underworld without Thanatos' help. Once Zagreus proves his strength to Thanatos, Thanatos can be given Ambrosia the next time he is encountered in the House of Hades.

From the wiki.

[acoustic bolt]

Is there anything in this game that isn't just naturally unlocked by winning and giving everyone gifts?

Other than putting cerberus I guess

[rustic vale]

you have to purchase certain work orders before others will show up I guess

[high island]

Lord Hermes's favor, for one. But mostly it's just do more runs, yeah.

[rustic vale]

like a random set of pillars in the main hallway will unlock 2 building options in the west hall iirc

[acoustic bolt]

Whats the trick for hermes?

[rustic vale]

You have to talk to hermes with his plume at max

Iirc

[acoustic bolt]

Oh that one could be tricky if you max it and happen to not talk to hermes and then never use it is guess

[high island]

Yeah.

[latent moon]

That just made me question if I have Hermes at max lmao

[high island]

Thankfully we have a really good wiki that covers all the info like that.

In English, at least.

[hearty bramble]

New hades merch it's happening

[latent moon]

heck yeah buddy

[hearty bramble]

SHE'S BABY http://images.ctfassets.net/5owu3y35gz1g/6FOUXQYzjh7Z4Uq8tLvoLy/cf7eff00f6aaa8ee57c2bdae690a9d2c/product_hades_dusa_plush_photo1.png

[lean timber]

aww how cute

[latent moon]

wait is the person holding it cosplaying someone at the same time lmao

[hearty bramble]

Looks like it hahaha

[latent moon]

lmao that's amazing

cosplaying the zag arms

[wind tendon]

I hope that Meg shirt also comes as a short sleeve :~

[vivid zealot]

I just saw the announcement, fangamer doesn't deliver everywhere ☹️

[wind tendon]

I am in the US for my vacation until the 31st, currently calculating shipping times in hopes I can take some stuff with me back to Norway 🫠 Not looking good 😂

[hollow path]

what do you guys think is cerberus's breed based on

i can see a resemblance of a labrador

[latent moon]

the breed is big dog

clifford if you will

[wind tendon]

German Shepherd?

[hollow path]

yeah kinda like a lil bit furry

i can also see doberman

and stray dogs

[lean timber]

ah my favorite dog breed, stray

think he's a lab/shepard mix

[narrow hemlock]

https://twitter.com/Fangamer/status/1549443282014330880

Fangamer (@Fangamer)

We'll be shipping worldwide from our US store, but some of our Hades merch will also be available soon in our European warehouse!

You can sign up for a notification from @FangamerEU here: https://t.co/ViWZcne48Z

Twitter · Jul 19, 2022, 5:17 PM

according to them they ship everywhere

ive never ordered from them so idk

[acoustic bolt]

where did this picture come from

[hearty bramble]

SGG blog post has more merch pics & info :) https://www.supergiantgames.com/blog/changes-to-our-store/

[coarse iris]

Oh my goodness. I love it!!! I know where I'm going to spend my money lol.

[deep vine]

Any reason to ask hermes not to talk to me?

[rustic vale]

No

Why is that even a question

I mean if you really don’t like ‘im I guess

[patent mesa]

if you pick that option I think he asks you again down the line

so it's not permanent

I've gotten super annoyed at all the repeating dialogue so I kinda wish I had hermes stop talking lol

[lean timber]

but he talks so fast his slowest voice line takes 5s 💀

[dawn cedar]

i went through the entire story of the game with aegis when i originally played this game a while ago, and i am just now finding out that bull rush can block attacks

all this time i thought blocking attacks meant like slicing through projectiles and stuff

[high island]

Saves time in speedruns.

He won't mind.

[hearty bramble]

It doesn't affect in game time though right?

[high island]

Right. Just RTA.

[hearty bramble]

Wait what's RTA

[high island]

Real-time attack.

[vivid zealot]

I hope so, because currently they won't ship to Serbia (no shipping methods available 😡)

[old kayak]

any tips for beting ||hades||

[patent mesa]

shield is the best for first clear

[old kayak]

i have 7 or 8 now

[patent mesa]

well early clears in general

[warm nimbus]

shield is really great for learning his attack patterns imo

[high island]

I don't think it's the best for a first clear tbh. It's easier to just get a high DPS build on something else. But relying on block and Bull-Rushes is still a decent strategy.

[patent topaz]

About the new fangamer merch again

Now they have no excuses for not making real companions plushies 👁️

[tall holly]

oh god

yessir

[old kayak]

how do you get companions

[lean timber]

mort plushie

you can get them from gifting ambrosia to certain people

[old kayak]

like

[rustic vale]

dusa

Sisyphus

Than

Meg

Skelly

And

Achilles

[mint coral]

You get it from Achilles no?

[rustic vale]

I thought it was patty but it’s probably achilles

[patent topaz]

Maybe both?
Didn't get to that part yet but since it's from both you get it from whoever you gift ambrosia first?

They have the same/complementary favor anyway

[lean timber]

it's from achilles

[tall holly]

finally did it

achilles hunting blades

without hunting blades

[mental vale]

🥲

[delicate island]

about to do bone hydra

[old kayak]

how to unlock the final sword aspect i have the final spear aspect and i have talked to nyx like 5 times

[warm idol]

You have to put five titan blood ihowever u want in sword aspects

[delicate island]

update got curb stomped

[warm idol]

You have to put five titan blood ihowever u want in sword aspects

[old kayak]

i put ten in the sword

[warm idol]

Oh.. H

[old kayak]

when the fighting ended it ended on a attack frame stretchy zag

[latent moon]

that's an rng moment lol

[acoustic bolt]

rare crop eventually goes up to heroic right?

[rustic vale]

Yes

after 12 chambers iirc

[lean timber]

shore as sheeit

the rarity of rare crop influences how many boons are selected to be upgraded

can rare crop be heroic itself??

[patent mesa]

never

[rustic vale]

Never

It’d be impossible

[winged wadi]

charon my beloved

[warm nimbus]

i think its actually 9 encounters

[rustic vale]

Oh wait

I’m stupid

[lean timber]

silly billy

[rustic vale]

I went 4 * 3 instead of 3 * 3

[lean timber]

how would heroic rare crop be impossible

[rustic vale]

You can’t get it

[lean timber]

yeh but u said it would be impossible as in the game logic wouldn't permit it

are u just saying it won't happen

[rustic vale]

I’m saying it can’t happen

[lean timber]

[warm nimbus]

you cant get rare crop twice, cant upgrade by eurydice, and it cant replace another boon

[rustic vale]

You literally can’t get it heroic in vanilla game

[warm nimbus]

so it literally just cant be offered heroic

[lean timber]

i see

[mint coral]

use exclusive access so its only on 6 chambers

[astral yacht]

How does eurydice work? Why would it prevent a "epic" roll into "heroic" ?

[rustic vale]

Rare crops in specific can’t have it’s rarity increased in that wau

if you have purple rare crop and take the rarity increasing juice it wouldn’t work

It can’t work

[astral yacht]

it's just not eligible?

[rustic vale]

Yes

[astral yacht]

what if you get the "next X boons have upgraded" ?

also not eligible for that one?

[rustic vale]

That means the minimum rarity is blue

Instead of common

[astral yacht]

oh, so it's not like it rolls rarity for each boon, then bumps it up

it just drops the "common" possibility

(or some equivalent)

[rustic vale]

It’s like exclusive access but temporary

And rare instead of epic

[latent moon]

yeah yarn just drops the common possibility pretty much

i guess it could also roll rarity and then bump it up but then that's just funky if you roll an epic rarity, since that's the highest

unless heroic replacement i guess

[warm idol]

Yo guyyys so i have lvl 5 zag sword and skelly wants me to kill him do i do it no big spoilers pls :D

[patent mesa]

yes

[rustic vale]

Murder him

Assassinate skelly

[patent mesa]

he dies permanently and is replaced by cerberus

so you can kill cerberus in the courtyard

[rustic vale]

Don’t worry cereberus just pulls a skelly

[warm idol]

Lol ok think i understand now

Thanks for responses btw

[wide basalt]

I'm right before hades with three death defies if I don't beat him I'm the worst player ever

[short glen]

Untrue

[wide basalt]

Wish me luck

[patent mesa]

wax his ass

[wide basalt]

I beat him!!!

And with one death defy left

[acoustic bolt]

so with aspect of achilles i have sea storm with tempest strike and flurry jab

i'm being given the opportunity to switch to heroic deadly strike

do we think that will do more damage than epic tempest and sea storm

i also have epic razor shoals and static discharge if that matters

[rustic vale]

keep sea storm

I mean

keep tempest strike

[acoustic bolt]

k i'm not really sure what the math would turn out to be here lol

[rustic vale]

well