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ashen python
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Not exactly a cake walk btw

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You win a run you get a boss cell bc

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After 5 you get access to the true ending along with extra content

mint coral
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Is fun but i def dont have enough patience to pratice the hardest mode just to get the ending bouldy
Thats why i enjoyed Hades more ig

ashen python
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^

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Also imo devs are now being a little indecisive

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So I am just waiting until they decide enough is enough and finally stop adding to the game and” let it die”

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Then I want to see what they have done with the game

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Currently many agree the game is starting to get bloated now but regardless the general quality of it is still pretty good so it’s a bit hard to complain

chrome wharf
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I'd like dead cells a lot more if the game didn't laugh at you for getting hit one single more time than the combo reward allows for

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and if the difficulty ramp wasn't like a flat line and then spiking at the last boss

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imagine if hades had FO2 EM4 turned on by default

ashen python
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That sounds unpleasant

icy knoll
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hot (lukewarm?) take you should've fought em4 on 10th run

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would've been so much cooler

chrome wharf
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it can be a hidden fight that activates if you attack dad too much or stay in the arena too long

ashen python
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So far my favorite cast boon is still lighting rod

mint coral
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R O D

strong ridge
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rod, my first carry

ashen python
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Now I wonder how viable it will be on 40+ heat

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Maybe if I use nemesis build or Rama/zag/Chiron bow

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Any bow that isn’t hera

mint coral
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Hera high heat

ashen python
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High heat all you need is hera bow and Aphro cast

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Bonafide shot gun

mint coral
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High heat hera is playing bad zag bow

ashen python
signal aspen
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High heat Hera is just you waiting for your casts to drop

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Or just bad zag bow

ashen python
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To clarify bad zag bow is reg zag bow correct

mint coral
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Bad zag bow as in no natural crit chance

ashen python
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Oh

mint coral
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And enemies are more tanky so casts just get stuck

ashen python
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I see in other words you need some rng

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Or just wait around

signal aspen
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Wait around and time out

mint coral
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Beo also runs into the same problem of sometimes lacking poms but

  1. is a shield so its safe
  2. casts dont get stuck
gray apex
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At 40 Hera is okay

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But yea

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That's around where it can start falling

signal aspen
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Hera above 9 heat bouldy

patent mesa
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oh that's funny

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I didn't know hera wasn't a high heat champ

ashen python
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In other words doable but painful without some good rng

signal aspen
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That's literally how you explain all of high heat

ashen python
strong ridge
devout terrace
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Yea

fast willow
patent mesa
chrome wharf
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TD3 is 6 heat

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I think.

gray apex
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Yup

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RTA is TD FO2 EM2 so 6 + 6 + 3 because people just run TD3

patent mesa
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sus

strong ridge
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y is the subredit so horny

icy knoll
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ask supergiant

signal aspen
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reddit moment

ashen python
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Also damn I will never underestimate true shot crits again

signal aspen
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True shot bouldy

latent orbit
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anyone know why i cant access the full list of artifacts on the codex?

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all i see are these

mint coral
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You are misssing the best artifact

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(from failing erebus gates)

latent orbit
mint coral
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Those are the only artifacts

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Wait nvm

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Cant you scroll up?

latent orbit
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thats all i have

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im dumb

heavy sigil
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i swear

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titans blood should be there

mint coral
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artifacts has 2 pages

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is on the first

heavy sigil
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o

latent orbit
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whats this?

slim geyser
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means the games modded

latent orbit
slim geyser
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its for the speedrunning modpack

latent orbit
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got it

latent orbit
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what the highest pom blessing one can get?

slim geyser
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wdym

raw herald
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Highest I’ve seen is mid 50s

latent orbit
slim geyser
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ah yeah mid 50s

latent orbit
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*bove

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**above

raw herald
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Yes

slim geyser
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stop pinging me please

latent orbit
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sorry

slim geyser
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youre good

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but you could get it above it i bet ive never seen anyone do it though

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also after a certain point the increases become v e r y small

lean timber
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for most the upgrade falls off pretty damn hard after like level 7

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there's usually no point in going past lv. 5

twin thistle
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lvl 5 is already more than enough for most % scaling boons

high island
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Pom upgrades tend to reach their floor around Lv.4.

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Getting only the minimum from an upgrade can still be decent enough though if it pushes you over the edge to hit damage breakpoints for any enemies. If it doesn't, it might as well do nothing.

fair cradle
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If you have the Athena Artemis duo (i forget the name), does the attack that does the reflecting get the crit chance or only subsequent attacks

raw herald
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When deflect something, anything can crit for 2s, 20% chance

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So specials, attacks, dashes, calls, doom etc

fair cradle
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but let's say i have it on rail and i have deflect shot

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does the shot that deflects get crit chance once it hits an enemy after deflecting

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or is the crit applied once zag does the next attack

raw herald
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Yes, because everything gets crit chance

fair cradle
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ok ty

raw herald
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The debuff is applied as soon as you deflect

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You don’t usually hit and deflect in the same hit, usually

fair cradle
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cluster rockets

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was what made me think of it

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loud valve
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From my Chiron clear with the duo, everything I deflected came back to Hades but none of them were critical so that probably means that the dmg you can reflect doesn't have the 20% crit buff into consideration yet

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I can't say much more from my footage, my run has deflect on both dash and atk but it's not really convenient to attack while Hades wants to strike me as well so I don't have anything similar to your question

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Feel free to watch if you want to see by yourself: https://youtu.be/qjXxf2niqWk

This took me a lot of practice but I finally was able to take down Hades at 50 Heat with a fightstick!

Shoutouts to the Hades community, especially the french crew: Astaos, Nitrostarch, NephiOH, Scr4tch, BSK.

Run done on PC
Fightstick model: PXN-0082

PS: Fiery Presence was a mistake, Chiron is optimal and should be used with Shadow Presence i...

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flint dirge
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petition to bring down charon's dmg -200% AT LEAST

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I had an amazing run until I thought hey what if I do another duel

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3 death defiances

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and 1 full hp bar

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100+ hp

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to 0

high island
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Hmmmm.

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I say let's buff Charon's damage. dusa

flint dirge
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but I mean if they make him an unkillable god of gods

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at least remove the borrow 300 money option

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why's it there?

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I can die by usual mobs anyway

high island
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It's not a borrow 300 Obols option.

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It's a "borrow" 300 Obols option.

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You tried to take his lunch money. That's what you get for that. dusa

flint dirge
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maybe in 10 runs

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I totally love wasting time

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indeed

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what an amazing run - ruined

high island
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You'll get better at the fight with practice, and you'll get better builds with more experience and knowledge.

buoyant elk
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Beat dad a second time let's goooo

high island
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Nice! Go go go! dusa

pale barn
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I swear my game is bugged or i am the unluckiest person ever

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Ive never had a fish spawn in Hades lair

flint dirge
pale barn
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Yeah its pissing me off cause i want the achievement

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Im geting close to perfecting the game

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Steam achievement wise

void vigil
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did you already get credits

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if not, look for fishing spots in all of greece water pools

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also try getting poseidons huge catch legendary

strong ridge
buoyant elk
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Just beat dad a 3rd time

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Getting good and sweaty at this

pale barn
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Well i still havent gotten it. I hope i can find the boon

high island
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Just beat him boonless mirrorless.

vale ocean
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with zag rail lvl 0

twin vapor
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Heya I'm pre-queens plan

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I just finished giving athena 6 nectar

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and now I can give her more

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unlike artemis and aphrodite

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why?

void vigil
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each god has a "favor" you need to complete so you can gift them the rest of the hearts

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so you completed athena's, but not artemis' or aprhodite's

twin vapor
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Is there a place I can check for these favors, or even get some clues on them, within the game

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I'm trying to resist the Wiki and whatnot

void vigil
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not really but some of them are prophecies, some will just happen naturally like by talking to that god a lot, some are a bit more obscure

twin vapor
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alrighty thanks

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strong ridge
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zagreus forgot how to aim

heavy sigil
river vapor
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Which summons are the best ones?

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I've maxed out meg because that's the only one I have, and I'm not sure which other ones to get

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I've seen Sisyphus used a lot

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I've rarely seen skelly and dusa

mint coral
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Meg is the most used in speedruns/high heat

patent mesa
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meg for sure for sweaty stuff

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for casual stuff where LC and CF aren't high bouldy is really nice for preserving DDs

latent moon
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for my first high heat run i used bouldy for extra health which was great

unreal nest
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is hades multiplaya

signal aspen
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No

amber bluff
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I wish

manic bobcat
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Yes, just that player 2 character is invisible and does no damage.
I think SGG should buff P2 but no news so far. Ymmv.

latent orbit
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just found out

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too many boons

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too many levels on every book

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=

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crash

devout terrace
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yeah its because the game technically creates a new boon

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like every time you level it up

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thats why you see like lv4 passion flare in the run log

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and if you have like absurd amount of poms and boons with poms in them it could theoretically overflow

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never knew it could crash tho

latent orbit
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funny af

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oneshotted skelly

warm nimbus
latent orbit
latent orbit
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is it possible to escape on the first escape attemmpt

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?

mint coral
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yes

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is even a speedrun category

latent orbit
mint coral
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fresh file gamers too powerful

signal aspen
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People got kinda good at it

latent orbit
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just made a new save file

mint coral
latent orbit
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and alr close to asphodel

slim geyser
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ff gamers op

chrome wharf
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you can technically die during a fresh file run and it will still be valid

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you just won't be getting the top times

spare tartan
mint coral
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way lower

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like 18:xx?

chrome wharf
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Yeah the 18s

mint coral
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@vale ocean going overtime hits you for 5 hp each second

vale ocean
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oh neat

mint ember
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yo

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is urge to kill included in sisyphus keepsake

patent mesa
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you have the shackle buff for attack special and cast if you don't have a boon in one of their slots on the very left

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chaos, jerkies, urge to kill, hunter dash etc all leave shackle intact

mint ember
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bet

strange skiff
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Do dash strike buffs from Artemis, chaos, daedalus affect adamant rail?

gray apex
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Yes

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Rails have dash strikes

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Except Lucifer

strange skiff
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Ok thx

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I tried it on hestia yesterday and tried to test but my tests just proved that I wasn't testing properly

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Also got my fastest time so far so it makes sense (as I'd got decent strike upgrades from all 3)

gray apex
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Yea Hestia really likes Dash strike upgrades

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From Chaos usually, because your dash slot is reserved for Tidal dash

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Other rails don’t care about it because their damage sources are external and not the actual damage of the weapon

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Like Eris

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If you reset for Spread fire on Zag rail then you’ll also want dash strike damage, if you play it as bad Eris then it doesn’t do anything

strange skiff
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Actually I think I had tidal dash thanthink
I did it right after a nemesis run and must have had Artemis dash on that

gray apex
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Tidal dash is very good on Hestia

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Really nice for cleanup so you don’t waste your Special/empowered shot on smaller things

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You can also run it on Nemesis

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But you really want Double Edge

strange skiff
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Need to practice that tidal cleanup for sure

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Yeah I had dedge on nem

gray apex
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If you plan on speedrunning the game I suggest you join the discord pinned in #self-promotion, lots of amazing guides and vod reviews etc can help you improve so fast

strange skiff
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Thanks MiKe. I probably wont go that deep into speedrunning but will try to get through higher heats until I hit my ceiling so may check out the resources

rocky aurora
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what does crackling skewer do just seems like the normal spear throw

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fast willow
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though i saw this in a very old haelian vid so it might be outdated

heavy sigil
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nah they use ME sword iirc

mint coral
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Yeah

devout terrace
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Except retro sometimes

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But hes an absolute chad

twin thistle
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bow was the old strat before ppl realized they could grind ME resets bouldy wasnt it

gray apex
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Probably

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1 dash sword gaming isnt very appealing

latent moon
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I tried fresh file before, died on lernie, then said "never again"

signal aspen
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fresh file is easy

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||ive never completed a ff run||

slim geyser
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i got to elysium on my last attempt (back in march)

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but thats it

gray apex
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I died to phase 1 Hades I think

devout terrace
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I beat it but only with mods that guaranteed only Athena and Ares in tartarus

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And a 2 sack

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Without mods I got to the start of phase 2 I think

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That was a long time ago

mint coral
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I got to dad by save quitting the heroes fight a lot

slim geyser
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ive been wanting to get back into ff tbh

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whats the lowest igt time

mint coral
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No clue, ff is rta so i never considered tge igt dusa

signal aspen
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wr run was 11:32 igt

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but i think his former wr was faster igt

slim geyser
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oh interesting

last veldt
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I got to Heroes on FF but that was after a lot of attempts.

balmy root
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How to unlock aspects ?

gray apex
balmy root
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Thank you

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It worked

wind hare
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does anyone have good achilles spear builds, i dont know any

balmy root
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I bought Eris's aspect and Chaos's ones

gray apex
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Nice

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Eris is really good

balmy root
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😁

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Should i level up them or wait to get at least one aspect for each weapon ?

gray apex
# wind hare does anyone have good achilles spear builds, i dont know any

You can start with Tidal Dash/ Deadly Strike and look for a cast to complement it like Slicing Shot -> Hunting Blades or Crystal Beam -> Crystal Clarity, other casts work well too because Achilles' buff is massive, you really want Flurry Jab from your hammer, aside from that just wing it, good dps calls are nice, Zeus Dio mainly, defensive Dash would be Divine Dash, your Special boon doesnt matter too much, use it to open Duos, and keep refreshing your buff, remember it lasts for the next 4 attacks/casts

gray apex
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Hera another great aspect at low level

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For the Bow

balmy root
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Got it

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Thanks

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Last question

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Is reseting the first god worth ?

gray apex
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Wdym

balmy root
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When you start a run you have a free god bonus

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Is it worth reseting it ?

gray apex
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I still don't know what you're referring to, the first god that shows up in the first chamber? And by resetting it do you mean dying if they dont offer you what you want?

balmy root
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Yes

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That's it

icy knoll
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ofc you can combine flurry jab with any of the other ones

gray apex
# balmy root That's it

You can use a Keepsake to force a god of your choice as the first boon, that's usually how you start your run, you can reset if they dont give you what you want, it depends really, you can experiment with random things when starting out so I wouldnt recommend resetting too hard

balmy root
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Thank you

gray apex
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It's also more important to focus on enemy patterns, mechanics of the weapon, maybe trying out hammers, bosses etc

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Some of these can transfer from weapon to weapon aswell

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So it'll make it easier to branch out into different things

balmy root
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Lucky me i got the hammer

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At the start

balmy root
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Didnt know

gray apex
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Well I meant the skills are transferable lol

balmy root
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I had the best run ever with the gun

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..

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Infinite ammo, 45% critical chance +200% damage, dash reflects

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But i had to fight the green sister as the first boss

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I had 1 chance out of 3

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..

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🥲

manic bobcat
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I personally think Tisiphone is the easier one.

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Alecto on the other hand...

slim geyser
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damn spinny things

balmy root
river vapor
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Also how do curse of longing and merciful end interact?

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Or do they just not interact at all

raw herald
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They don’t

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In order to utilise one, you’re not utilising the other

river vapor
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Damn

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😔

gray apex
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Well tbh even if you could somehow it doesn’t sound that amazing

balmy root
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Oh my

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Chiron bow is just too powerful

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I almost beat world 3 with it

marble mountain
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i love chiron bow

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the satisfaction of getting the volley hammers

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and a status curse on the special

rose niche
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i got to hades but i keep dying really quickly

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like i dont know his move se

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t

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he just destroys me so qickly 💀

marble mountain
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if you see the white circle

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dash twice

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or as many times

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thats his spinny thing

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at 66 and 33% hp he spawns stronger minions

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like wringers and stuff

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um

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just dash whenever hes preparing an attack basically

chrome yoke
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always dash

marble mountain
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if you get hit by boiling blood try extra hard not to get hit

strange skiff
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Is there a good breakdown of armour mechanics in this game?

void vigil
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armor damage doesnt transfer to hp, and armored enemies cannot be staggered. im pretty sure that is it

devout terrace
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armored enemies have a higher difficulty value than their unarmored counterparts

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so if the room needs to spawn in a 1000 difficulty value, it might spawn 20 unarmored swords or 10 armored swords

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theres a sheet that breaks it down

strange skiff
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Ah cool thanks both

mint coral
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Being armored makes enemies more aggresive too iirc

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Best example being the witches that get some form of multi shot

gray apex
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yup

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Archers will shoot multiple arrows etc

patent mesa
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dad archers shooting 7 arrows in a row is some serious bs tbh

strong ridge
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my acorn whimpers

strange skiff
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Broken spearpoint! squirtyay

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# mint coral Being armored makes enemies more aggresive too iirc

Elites have different attacks but their AI is generally the same as their non-elite counterpart, pretty sure. I think only some superelites have different AI, e.g. Superelite Witches are a lot more evasive; but that might just be the same AI with faster movement speed and less delay between actions.

mint coral
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Ah, didnt know how to describe it squirtnya

high island
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Basically you can exploit the AI of elites the same way, just they have some new attacks (typically just stronger versions of the non-elite attacks).

trail citrus
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Hi

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was the aspect of nemesis nerfed, or something?

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I was tyold it is the best to speedrun the sword rewards, but in all my attempts, it just lacks damage no matter what

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I mean, I get u gotta be precise, and stuff, but I'd like to think I am not that bad at playing this game for me to have made it to this point

icy knoll
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how are you building it?

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trail citrus
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tnx. I require that for sure

trail citrus
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I'm at 20 heat, btw

manic bobcat
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lul nvm

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you doing the dash strike thing though right?

trail citrus
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More frequently than I did before. Chaining them is another story altogether

high island
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Excalibur is way slower than Nemesis.

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Also don't evade the swear filter. dusa

manic bobcat
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i think if you google some nemesis speedrun and if your dash strike is not as fast/precise than theirs then i think it's your dash striking combo that might be it, not the build.

trail citrus
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This time I managed to make it to asterius and the other guy, at least. Before I was curbstomped with some bull runs and FCKNG HERMS doesn't give me a godamn dash upgrade

manic bobcat
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blood and darkness

trail citrus
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Ight, so I guess I gotta learn to use only dash strikes when using a sword, I suppose

manic bobcat
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length isn't the problem, it's how you use it

trail citrus
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Well, next obejective then

high island
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I mean way slower in clear speed.

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I'd say the easiest sword to be speedy with early on is Poseidon.

trail citrus
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Me, getting about 4 minutes with artur and way more with nemesis...

high island
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4 minutes what? Tartarus?

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14:22 Real Time (RTA)

00:00 - Pre Run Death
00:55 - Tartarus
05:28 - Asphodel
08:50 - Elysium
12:45 - Temple of Styx
14:20 - Hades
15:35 - Victory Screen

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LOL @ barge. Good run though. Biggest mistake probably rolling that Athena and then missing Impending in the C35? Bad heroes fight but not sure if my fault.

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Watch some of these, I guess.

trail citrus
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Maybe my main mistake is putting points in hard labour?

high island
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I suspect you probably just need a lot more practice tbh. Sword isn't an easy weapon to be fast with because it's very high-risk.

trail citrus
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Yeah, but I wreck with artur in these same heat settings...

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Practice may be it though

high island
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I don't know what you consider "wrecking" tbh. Excalibur is easy to play because you have a lot of room for error. But it's not a good speedrun aspect.

trail citrus
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Specially learning to deal´~ with theseus and the other guy (em3)

trail citrus
high island
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Best in terms of clear speed?

raw herald
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Arthur is pretty slow

high island
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What's your IGT record with Excalibur?

raw herald
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Compared to Nem

trail citrus
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best as in the only successfull one. Several times at that

high island
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Ah. Yeah, if you're just looking to get the win at all, Excalibur is for sure the easiest sword.

trail citrus
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I see how it can be pretty slow. Guess I just gotta learn how to chain dash without murdering the left stick

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ight. Nemesis is the fastest, assuming the gods aren't stingy and one learned to chain dash attack after dash attack, I guess

high island
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If you're aiming for clearing in 10 minutes or less or anything like that, Excalibur is one of the worst aspects in the game for that tbh.

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You have to be very hyper-aggressive and also very precise with your Dash-Strikes when playing Nemesis in order to get the most out of it. But if you tried to do the same with Excalibur, you'd be way slower generally.

trail citrus
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Yeah. If nto for alecto...

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twice in a row -_-

high island
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I don't think Alecto is a problem for Nemesis, that's just a matter of learning the fight. She actually gives you enough room that you can attack pretty much constantly.

trail citrus
gray apex
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practice

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best tip

trail citrus
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May be just because of the labour 4 thing, I guess

high island
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Nah, it's practice. I usually fight her with HL5 FO2 in high heat. dusa

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HL isn't much of a factor if you don't get hit. dusa

trail citrus
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Yeah, how do u keep the heat on her without getting hit by her shots she starts charging basically instantly? Is there some tell I'm missing?

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I mean, I know the tell and how to dodge any other of her attacks along with any of the other furie's support. That is the one that still gets me

high island
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You pretty much just keep going back and forth through her and stay away from her attacks. All of her attacks are pretty linear and very telegraphed.

trail citrus
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and when she starts spinningn and shooting? That's what gets me the most

gray apex
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Do you have Forced Overtime on

trail citrus
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no

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but I have benefits package

high island
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Alecto fires her projectiles in just a v shape, no? So just stay outside of that.

gray apex
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Well that doesn't affect her, I think it's gonna be practice mostly, and maybe more deliberate inputs

trail citrus
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no, she fires them all around her

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that would be meg, the v shape one

high island
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Might be mixing it up, yeah, I haven't played in a couple months and I don't really think during the fights anymore, it's just instinct at some point. But you pretty much you just get better at handling it. Plus she should only be enraged during the very last phase, so you just kill her asap before she kills you, and then you move on.

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If you lose a DD during that, it's whatever.

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I'd say as you get better, you learn to do the fight without losing DDs, then how to do the fight fast, then how to do the fight fast without losing DDs... and then how to do the fight the fastest regardless of whether you're losing a DD in the process or not.

heavy sigil
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achilles tips any1?

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for high heat

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bouldy as i play more and more i realise that hestia is such a op aspect for high heat compared to other aspects

high island
gray apex
# heavy sigil achilles tips any1?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/18uZziGYDyVCwc-XgcveoY8MXp6Lwq0BD6xDV38cuYWo/edit?usp=sharing This is worth reading, it covers the mechanics and rotation of the weapon throughout the earlier parts, later it talks more about speedrunning stuff which is not as relevant in this context, high heat Achilles is just rough bouldy

heavy sigil
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🙏 thanks

high island
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I'd say high heat Achilles does best with Cast builds.

tropic shadow
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What pact of punishment conditions are best after just unlocking it

vale ocean
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... I just lost in an erebus gate BC I BLEW MYSELF UP WITH HAZARB BOMB BEFORR THE FIGHT BEGAN

mint coral
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Get onion'd

narrow hemlock
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signal aspen
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👀👀👀

mint coral
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Oh boy they are coming

narrow hemlock
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i'm honestly surprised and very impressed supergiant secured not only the zag pop up parade figure, but also three nendoroids

mint coral
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If you wanna watch

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There is also some with em4 instead

latent moon
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Oh dang lmao

tall holly
rare hull
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Unsure where it goes, but Hades' Avatar frame isn't available separately in Steam Points shop is it? You have to buy the whole game profile for that?

narrow hemlock
rare hull
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Ahh, I only needed the frame, but thanks for replying! AyaHeart

narrow hemlock
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yeah unfortunately it's how steam has the profiles set up. even if you purchase a game profile, you can't equip part of it, its all or nothing

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so cosmetics part of the game profiles are unique to those profiles and cant be obtained separately

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actually looking further in you may be able to equip other things, idk i'm not going to blow points on one and check lol but yeah to answer the original question the hades frame is unique to the profile

void vigil
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You can equip other things, I also only got it for the frame but then I found out it turns your profile red so I kept that as well because it looks really cool

balmy root
devout terrace
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Its a spoiler channel

balmy root
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ok ty

chrome yoke
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why does nobody expect to fight hades in a game called hades

high island
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Expecting and knowing are different things.

narrow hemlock
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hades is also called hades because the underworld is referred to as hades as well

lean timber
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i think the game should be called zagreus 😄

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because zagreus is cool

narrow hemlock
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doesn't really fit supergiant's naming conventions for their titles though. they never name their games after a character, they're more named for a specific thing in the game that's important to the story

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which is why I'm personally inclined to believe the game is called hades because it refers to the underworld as a whole that the game takes place in ablobthinkingeyes

lean timber
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hadeez

gray apex
icy knoll
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is the underworld even called hades ingame?

tall holly
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i think they just call it "the underworld"

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but idk

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hades is the name of the domain the god hades rules

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but that leads to a lot of confusion so i doubt supergiant would do that

narrow hemlock
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most of the time things like "in the name of hades" or "house of hades" refers to hades the god himself, but cerberus has been referred to as "beast of hades" which can both mean the beast hades owns, and the beast that guards the realm of hades, the underworld

heavy sigil
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i think yall maybe looking too deep into this

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like hades sounds cooler then underworld as a video game name

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and no one know what zagreus is

narrow hemlock
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short glen
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Yeah, this dual name thing is just how Greek myth is, they didn't do it for the game

narrow hemlock
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im just saying supergiant tends to not do things "just because" yall 😭

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theres probably a reason they chose the name they did beyond "well no ones heard of zagreus before this"

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given how they chose to name their previous games

rain depot
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Is there a limit in the amount of nectar you can give bouldy? I'm done with using it for relationships so I have a ton of it and I love giving it to the big guy every run I get to him.

devout terrace
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You can give him infinitely

rain depot
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LETS GOOOOOOO

devout terrace
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Its so blessed

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bouldy ❤️

rain depot
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Good boy deserves it all

mint coral
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bouldy believes in you

rain depot
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:)

devout terrace
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And you believe in bouldyzagluv

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Ive given him thousands at this point

mystic depot
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So we have the hades soundtrack. It's pretty good.
But I like some of the in-game mixes better. I'd like to listen to some of them outside of the game.
Ideally, I just get some of the tracks as layers.
Anyone know where to get this?

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(specifically Out of Tartarus)

strange skiff
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I love the balance in this game.
Some boons and aspects are much better than others sure.
But every weapon has a good aspect and every god is useful in some builds.
Each weapon feels unique and the boon mechanics match the gods' aesthetics.
There must be some on-point game design, maths, and testing behind all this.

kindred falcon
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Hi

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I’ve had hades for like a year and just now restarted it cuz I never finished it and I swear I’m obsessed

latent moon
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it do be like that

cedar nexus
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Yah

honest current
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hi gamers!

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I just played a bit of Hades (not even a full run) after like 2 weeks of not playing

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and tried the... the hidden aspect of the fists

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and... iirc the other aspects... are pretty meh?

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but the hidden aspect is pretty meh too?

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like...

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idk

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opinion on the fists?

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or vision about them?

mint coral
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Gilgameh

honest current
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because the hidden aspects attacks too slow for taking 100% of the potential that... Artemis? the green God... the one with a bow boons... and also when u start ur attack animation u cannot cancel it... and its like also meh...

mint coral
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Dem is their best aspect but they are still fists bouldy

honest current
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u just... dash a lot

mint coral
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Try tidal dash only

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No need to attack, just dash

signal aspen
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fists is just kinda meh

honest current
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I mean... when we talk about base aspects... my tier list of weapons would be like:

Shield > Spear > Fists > Bow > Sword > The minigun

mint coral
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Base sword ron

honest current
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but when u unlock other aspects is like...

Shield and Spear > Bow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fists, minigun and sword

signal aspen
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why is rail so low

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and why is spear so high

honest current
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because I play with no mouse or controller, just keyboard... and launching the missile with the minigun is so annoying...

signal aspen
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well heres the thing

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dont do that

honest current
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buy me a mouse then bouldy

signal aspen
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what

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you dont have a mouse?

honest current
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I play with the thing that all the laptops have

signal aspen
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oh lmao

honest current
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Like, I played CS:GO, League of Legends, Portal and another things with that thing lmao

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Terraria too

signal aspen
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how do you play csgo with that

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why would you play csgo with that

honest current
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And... I have a controller because I had to buy it because of a hand problem after playing too much platformers but......meh....... I am not used to controllers after having played with just keyboard for 7 years

signal aspen
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uh you should definitely play with the controller bouldy

honest current
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its a purple controller... there was no pink on the store and my gift card was about to expire... :C

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mehhhhhhhhh

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anyways, I think the minigun isnt fun even with having the chance to aim the projectiles

mint coral
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Cant you let auto aim do the work anyways?

honest current
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its like... dash, shoot, reload -> repeat

signal aspen
mint coral
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Oh bouldy

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Idk how bad is hades with only kb

signal aspen
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@ croven

mint coral
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Wait wut

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That sounds like a :croven: moment

honest current
# mint coral Cant you let auto aim do the work anyways?

doesnt work even half of the time when no keyboard and no mouse... its okay tho, I mean, supergiant doesnt have the... idk english... the........... they dont have to think about accesibility of someone who plays with potatoes and wires and they activate inputs by crushing a screwdriver into the potato

signal aspen
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croven also the guy to play at like 5 fps

mint coral
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I know that one lol

honest current
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omg it seems like I am croven

signal aspen
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wr holder????

mint coral
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Good ol "frames give you advantage, blah blah" copypasta

signal aspen
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hera sub 5 guy???

honest current
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oh idk about the speedrunning scene of hades but yeah I also play at 5 fps lmao

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Like, for hades to run at 30 fps those are my steam launch parameters: /UseSwapEffectDiscard=true /DrawBlendMax=1 /DrawLights=false /UseAnalytics=false /AutoDetectLowResAssets=true /UseLowResAssets=true /DrawBloom=false /DrawColorGrading=false

mint coral
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Im glad i play on my switch lol

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Otherwise i would also be at 5 fps

honest current
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and it crashes half the time I enter a boss room

signal aspen
mint coral
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Just dont play high heat js/bp2

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Or dont get those enemies ig

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The tl;dr is mainly cloners or a lot of flamewheels

latent moon
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okay i'm a bit late to the party but if you have a controller you should probably use it if you're only using keyboard right now lmao

mint coral
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Use both kb and controller thanthink

honest current
honest current
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so...........

mint coral
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Peak laptop gaming

honest current
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its much more comfortable... for the screen distances and the cables... to just use the kb

honest current
signal aspen
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either

honest current
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oh tysm

devout terrace
honest current
honest current
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anyways, gotta eat some bread... today I had an 8 hours math olympics and I am hungry

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good bye... fellas? is fellas like saying "bro" or smth, right?

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and smth is like saying something, right?

signal aspen
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yeah

honest current
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I should ask those things somewhere else... anyways, Zeus shield best shield, good bye

signal aspen
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zag shied best shied

mint coral
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Beo can take 2nd place, as a treat

honest current
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Beo? worse shield

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its main mechanic consist on the shield dash... and I cant aim that without a mouse/controller

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0/10

signal aspen
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so true

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doesnt even have sub 5

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doesnt even have 62 heat

mint coral
signal aspen
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not even sub 2

honest current
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I should watch some Hades speedrun...

mint coral
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Perfect

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Watch the eris route

honest current
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iirc IGN made an... "Hades devs reacts to hades speedrun", right?

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or I am being confused

mint coral
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Fresh file run yeah

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And is quite slower than current wr for that

honest current
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yeah I remember watching that some years ago

signal aspen
honest current
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its unseeded? because I watched a seeded run at GDQ and I didnt like it tbh

mint coral
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https://youtu.be/BmSBaC4-Kds or this to have a funny laugh (this is routed just in case)

This was a big one. Sad we miss the 0-cycle Power Couple, but this run was pretty insane otherwise. Thanks to Pseudonym7777 for creating this route, Paradigmsort for making the tools he used, and Wmic, Latt, cgull, and Museus for optimizing manips and competing to push the time down alongside me.

There's more time to save, but sub-2:50 was my g...

▶ Play video
signal aspen
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oh yeah you can watch this cheated run bouldy

honest current
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also, why the extreme measures?

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like, in which boss is that faster?

signal aspen
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makes lernie faster

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brings the heads closer

honest current
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good to know

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and the thing about completing the stages fast is just for fun? or is sometimes faster to take those "doors" that require a certain amount of heat to enter?

signal aspen
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taking erebus gates are almost always slower

mint coral
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The fastest the game ask you for is under 20 mins with tight deadline 3

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And you still can go overtime and win so bouldy

honest current
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also... do u people... see the boon name and immediately know what they do?

signal aspen
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i look at the pictures of boons

devout terrace
signal aspen
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i dont read

devout terrace
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Purely for consistency reasons

honest current
devout terrace
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Like if one runner gets a 2 sack while the other gets a 5

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Thats super unfair

signal aspen
honest current
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because for me with over 500 hours at the binding of isaac.. I know every item name, aspect and description but because the game almost forces u to learn them...

devout terrace
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Since you literally have no way to impact that

signal aspen
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skill issue

devout terrace
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Game design issue dusa

honest current
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sack -> the thing that u have to give to the best dog at the final stage?

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I should really improve my english

signal aspen
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yeah

mint coral
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Tho if you play a lot it still happens

signal aspen
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i know what every boon does and how to unlock every duo boon and legendary boon residentzag

mint coral
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I still confuse some dio boons dusa

signal aspen
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demeter boons bouldy

honest current
mint coral
honest current
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on isaac if u dont know the things before the run starts... u are dead... or u have to open a wiki and search every item pic to find the one u want

mint coral
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I still confuse agony/whatever the special is called for doom

honest current
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I am not saying that isaac > hades, just that Hades pros seems like they put a lot of effort on learning things

mint coral
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But at the same time it has too many items and then being kind of"mess around and find out" is not fun for me bouldy

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Anyways hades

kindred falcon
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I had to finally turn on god mode for the first time today. I’ve only done about 40 attempts so far and I can make it to hades but I always make it there with like no death defies left after fighting Theseus

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😭

short glen
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40 runs is not an abnormal level of runs to be at that point

mint coral
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Nothing wrong with god mode too

tepid plover
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Champions is a tough fight for sure

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Also elysium as a whole is really rough

patent mesa
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eg mirror, boons you go for, aspects used etc

silent holly
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Hi there!
Can someone tell me who should I contact if I want to talk about reviewing a game on my channel?

narrow hemlock
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also i dont particularly see why a player should seemingly exhaust all options before opting to god mode. its literally there to help people if they need it, whenever they need it. theres no shame in doing so, and if they do you dont really need to tell them they should do other things first before trying it

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mentalities like that are why some people see resorting to god mode as a mark of shame as it is

patent mesa
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in any case I think god mod often becomes a crutch for people that want to escape it as they start pushing heat

narrow hemlock
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yeah thats fair but if someone didnt ask for advice on how to improve their gameplay you should leave them be

patent mesa
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god mode is for some people but I think it's worth making sure you're part of that group

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a lot of people turn it on due to gameplay frustration that can also be resolved by learning about the game

narrow hemlock
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i just think people on this server tend to forget that a huge chunk of the playerbase is quite casual and not looking to play optimally

patent mesa
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I mean fair but I think just seeing if your mirror is holding you back is a reasonable first step

short coyote
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I understand that supergiant games has a kind of "ship a finished game then make another" ideology. But Hades reinvigorated my childhood. When I was about 10 bastion released. And. I had put hours and hours into that game. It was my favorite for years. And. After playing transistor and. Not liking it much. I joined playing hades about a year ago, when the game was well released. But. I loved it. It genuinely made a somewhat emotionless me cry. But. Aside from that. I wanted to know if supergiant had any plans on expanding on the game. Something to continue on the story of zagreus and his family. Or if I just missed something and never heard that something is in the works.

Thanks.

spare tartan
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I wish it would tho

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Itd be epic

short coyote
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yeah thats what i had heard too.

mint coral
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but yeah game is done

short coyote
mint coral
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guessed as much dusa

short coyote
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i have genuinely no idea what it is but it seems interesting

coarse hare
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How do people get level 10 boons and stuff btw?

mint coral
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luck out on poms/early sweet nectar most of the time

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also pom blossom runs + fated authorithy if you wanna meme on the highest lvl boon

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and ofc dark foresight on the mirror, that nectar work order helps

coarse hare
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That's kind of funny

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Imma get a level 10 like tidal dash or something

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Right now

narrow hemlock
# short coyote I understand that supergiant games has a kind of "ship a finished game then make...

There hasn't been any official word, but we are approaching two years since the full release of the game later this year and the giants have not really done anything with the game beyond post-launch fixes, so at this point it's a really good chance they are working on another project. we don't know what they're working on at current, but their track record tends to be three years between each game so maybe there will be some news at the end of the year or next year as to what they're up to.

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the closest we have to whether they will work on hades further or not is this interview snippet
https://www.comingsoon.net/games/features/1190326-interview-hades-greg-kasavin

It’s not one of those things that’s written in stone like, “We will never make DLC!” It’s just not yet made sense for us to do since the Bastion one-off, which was something we experimented with at the time. Today, that would have been a patch.

I think a big part of it is that we’re so committed to the endings of our games and to paying off the player’s time if they get all the way to the end. We’ve put in all of our best ideas in the thing we’ve shipped and we’ve set out with a goal of making a complete experience. So to make DLC on something that, by our own definition, is complete, something about that has felt off. It’s like you’re contriving stuff. If it was so important, why wasn’t it there in the 1.0 version? That’s a very broad statement about it.

In the particular case of Hades, it’s also a game with a lot of intricately connected parts in a story and everything. It may sound straightforward to dump in new Boons, gods, or weapons, but it would have a massive impact across all aspects of the game.

Due to the nature of the Early Access development, from our perspective, we did a whole bunch of updates. It’s just only Early Access players who experience a game that way. We even had unique content in Early Access that we never intended to ship in the 1.0 version that was self-aware about the nature of Early Access.

We did that for three years. And we gave it everything we had and thankfully it got this amazing response. We weren’t eager to then go and start messing with it. It doesn’t rule anything out by any means. We really appreciate that there’s interest and that players want more. But also that there is so much understanding in our community as well. Folks point out that it isn’t our style and they’ll give us a break.
short coyote
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Yeah. I know that it's unlikely but. I'm holding out hope. I really really would love to see it expanded upon in. Literally any way.

patent mesa
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I wish there were changes made that emulate what the speedrun modpack does

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aka a lot of qol like removed/skippable intro/ending cutscenes and some heat balancing

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one basic idea I'm sure a lot of people have had for the base game is that every TD reduces guaranteed styx sack by 1

short coyote
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Speaking of

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Is there mod support?

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If so. Are there any good mods?

honest current
mint coral
pale barn
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i finally got a fish to spawn in hades lair

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holy crap it took long

somber rapids
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why is double strike so rare

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i have less trouble getting duos and legendaries

honest current
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hi people!

warm marsh
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Hello

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Guys what to use titan blood in

honest current
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how many runs have u completed?

mint coral
honest current
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also, people, which was the moment where u laugh the most at Hades?

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me when I realised I can use a minigun to kill enemies

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I felt like playing Doom

warm marsh
honest current
warm marsh
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12 or sth

mint coral
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How much titan blood you got?

honest current
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then just use it on the weapon u use the most

devout terrace
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probably in the thousands residentzag

warm marsh
mint coral
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Oh dusa

honest current
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I have like 40

warm marsh
devout terrace
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Ive played this game like 16 months so

honest current
mint coral
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We also reset like crazy too

honest current
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if not, try

warm marsh
honest current
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ooooh

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then just save it

warm marsh
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I need it once with each

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?

mint coral
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No need to beat

honest current
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oh, just unlock? I didnt remember that, mb

mint coral
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But try ti defeat meg with each weapon as that gives you another blood

mint coral
warm marsh
honest current
mint coral
honest current
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there are like 6 pedestals so...

mint coral
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They are still counted as the first boss for the blood drop

warm marsh
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Do I need that thing from contractor

honest current
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yeah... they will show up later

honest current
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I might be wrong tho

mint coral
warm marsh
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But didn't get anything hidden

gray apex
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It's not the only requirement

signal aspen
warm marsh
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Nooo

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Did a trove challenge and forgot to pickup the rewards

gray apex
chrome yoke
warm marsh
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Guys I am going against Theseus and the bull with only 56 life and stubborn defiance

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Any advice

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That is 3rd time haven't won before

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Anyone here?

devout terrace
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kill them

warm marsh
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This seems much better

high island
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Because going in with 56 HP and 3 DDs is a little more comfortable than 56 HP and one SD.

gray apex
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Bigger hp pool yea

warm marsh
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I don't think I will afford them

warm marsh
high island
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Well, even 2 would be better.

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I know.

warm marsh
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So...

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Why dd is better?

high island
warm marsh
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But only once

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Or twice

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Could you show me your mirror please

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Btw I use spear

high island
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You can replenish DDs, too. It's about having more HP when you need it, like in a boss fight that you haven't won yet.

warm marsh
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Tbh 3 DDS is the best since you max die twice

high island
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3 DDs is max from the mirror.

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Also use the Evergreen Acorn in Elysium if you have it yet.

warm marsh
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How to attach files?

high island
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You can't. You can upload images to something like imgur though and link them.

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The Evergreen Acorn is a keepsake from Eurydice. Negates 3 hits from bosses at Lv.1 and 5 hits at Lv.3. Helps a whole lot with bosses 3 and 4.

warm marsh
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Can I send in dm?

warm marsh
high island
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Yeah.

high island
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Lady. In Asphodel.

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Will be a chamber exit with a !

warm marsh
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Ah those tortured souls

high island
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Also btw if you're new to the game, might be better if you stick to #h1-for-new-players since that's free of spoilers.

warm marsh
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Yh I think so

high island
warm marsh
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Then what do you recommend exactly, like 2 DDS 50% stab max cast damage max cast count extra dash?

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Other than those what shall I do next

high island
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As for DMing me pics, you can do that but tbh I'd rather you just upload to imgur or to a private discord server (takes less than a minute to quickly create one) and then link the image from there if it's relevant to discussions here.

warm marsh
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Still haven't unlocked the 20 key mirror

warm marsh
high island
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DDs, Greater Reflex, and Chthonic Vitality should be your main priority.

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Since that helps your survivability the most.

warm marsh
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tysm I gtg for now back after 30m

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Sorry for cutting the discussion

high island
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All good.

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Stick to #h1-for-new-players in the future. Lots of spoilers you might run into in the other channels. dusa

gray apex
high island
gray apex
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Discord character limit 🗿

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Ill add something in a bit

jaunty sonnet
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I'm going to slap whichever dev thought of a Skeleton Hydra as a boss

short glen
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It was me <3

jaunty sonnet
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coming to slap you

short glen
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Alright see you soon!

deep grotto
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you can apply the Extreme Measures 2 on the Pact of Punishment, it makes you fight an alternative boss

short glen
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It's supposed to be harder but it isn't

deep grotto
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when i first applied EM2 only set back was the lava in the arena

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got used to it pretty dast tho

patent mesa
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I find it much harder tbh

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HS makes it a nightmare at times

short glen
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Don't use hs it's awful

patent mesa
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eh you're kinda out of choices at 50 heat

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it's that or DC2/CP2

short glen
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Oh

deep grotto
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what was hs again

short glen
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Heightened security

deep grotto
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ohhh

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i tried it once

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lava does like 5-10 dmg

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i dont quite remember

patent mesa
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HS is a nightmare on DD imo

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but on SD it's actually not as scary as it looks like except vs dad vases

deep grotto
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vases count as traps

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lol weird

patent mesa
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I would regularly eat tartarus traps on my 50 attempts and it was no big deal

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just use up the SD on more traps and heal up

mint coral
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Hs is nice so you dont lose as much time when popping the sd on purpose

desert tundra
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Does anyone know if Pulverizing Blow nullifies the Sea Storm boon?

mint coral
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If you dont have pos attack yeah

hasty onyx
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just wanted to share this disgusting abomination of a build

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just sat under hades and pressed special until he died

icy knoll
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clockets are so cool

fluid cosmos
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Hey I just finished the game and felt like joining the discord because I liked it so much

manic bobcat
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Hello there

marble mountain
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i have successfully gayed with my fathers coworker

fluid cosmos
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Poggers

lean timber
marble mountain
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i gayed with someone

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in the game

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yknow

manic bobcat
carmine dragon
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hey every

patent mesa
carmine dragon
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fusa

marble mountain
carmine dragon
marble mountain
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nvm

carmine dragon
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ok 👍

lean timber
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i don understan 😭

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but happy for u

strong blade
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i would be happy if they made hades multiplayer

marble mountain
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it would be a bit easy though

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also online stuff would be a bit weird

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like with this game

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so anyways

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super soaker is so fun

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but i died to meg with it bouldy

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and lernie

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and in the big mob room in styx

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and lost my run to hades

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fun times

polar marsh
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Imagine if hades had a twitch voting system on pc where chat can decide wat enemies the host will face in the chambers

marble mountain
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“satyr”

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loads of satyrs shadegrief

lean timber
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mmm dire satyr cultist in every room mm

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i love getting poisoned with every hit!!!

short glen
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Spawns hades in the first chamber

strange skiff
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Cool idea.
The options for next room spawn could be a menu of 3 possible enemy groups (based on location and pact)
Just like the in-game boon options

cobalt sparrow
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I think I followed the requirements here (https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Adamant_Rail#Upgrades) for the upgrade, but I've talked to Zeus a number of times and nothing yet. Should I just take his item and keep giving up until I find it?

Hades Wiki

Exagryph, the Adamant Rail, is an Infernal Arm that can be unlocked for 8 Chthonic Keys after all other weapons have been unlocked. It is a ranged weapon modeled after a repeating rifle.

gray apex
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You should have Zag die in one way or another

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To reset the seed

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If you keep giving up you'll just keep getting the same dialogue

cobalt sparrow
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I have maxed out the first thing with blood on my rail but not the others. That's enough right?

patent mesa
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I heard that you need blood in non zag aspect

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but idk if true

short glen
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Huh, now that I can stop doing 32 heat, should I go back to fo2 on normal heats like I was doing before that or should I keep not using it

latent moon
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If you're used to fo2 you can just keep it on so you don't accidentally mistime things

icy knoll
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probably don't do that

strong ridge
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do 40 heat

icy knoll
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i'd recommend keeping it on, if you ever want to speedrun fo2 is required to reduce spawn times

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plus it just makes the game more fun

strong ridge
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fo2 buffs jolted

mint coral
leaden shore
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deadalus room 1, you love to see it

solar hatch
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I just fought hades extreme and lol so goodddd

celest shell
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Just went into Hades battle with over 500 health and SURPRISE I won

summer venture
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anyone have tips for beating hades

marble mountain
warm nimbus
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or was that for potatoes...

summer venture
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thats what i want to do to myself after dying for the 100th time

lean timber
latent moon
jaunty sonnet
warm nimbus
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lotr but yeah

jaunty sonnet
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nah i thought you were referring to the giants scene, but nah its the gollum one isnt it?

graceful blade
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Rewatching the Noclip doc and its so heartwarming to see them saying things like, “We hope fans like what we’re adding to the game 🥰” …And we did

warm marsh
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Guys how.do you exactly process heat

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Like I have beaten Hades once, shall I go beat him at one heat then two then three or what

short glen
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Yes

warm nimbus
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yeah

short glen
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That's the intended way to do it

manic bobcat
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Go straight to 64 heat. The only way.

latent moon
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you know what they say, the best way to learn is by doing it

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so might as well learn it all at the same time

marble mountain
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so if currently the game wants you to beat the game on 1 heat

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but you beat everything with 59

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wait that wasnt a good example

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if you beat everything with 15

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the bounties will still go to the 1 heat thingy

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and the intended heat will go to 2

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im pretty sure

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imma try that with shield since i havent beaten the game with any heat yet on it

mint coral
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yeah it works that way

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except 0 heat for some reason

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you can get 1 heat bounties without beating 0 heat

dark peak
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Is elysium the last area?

manic bobcat
mint coral
heavy sigil
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then push it to like 10,15,18

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and then like 22,25 once u get use to the _teens

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it also depends what weapon ur using

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like for hestia i jumped from 10 to 32 right away, while for achilles i had to do 18/25 before 32

latent moon
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some weapons are inherently easier to ramp up with heat compared to others
might just be easier to learn/use or you're just more familiar with it

marble mountain
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is forced overtime really that much of a difficulty jump that it gives 3 heat

latent moon
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for some it pushes them to be faster, for others they can play casually and fit will into the time frame

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wait im thinking of the wrong one

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forced overtime makes you relearn the timing of attack patterns and think faster because everything is just faster in general

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if not careful you could get wombo comboed pretty heavily

heavy sigil
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TD3 is usually a must

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so get used to it early

mint coral
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You mean td3?

heavy sigil
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yeah

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im dumb

patent mesa
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but it's generally absolutely worth the heat

zenith stump
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What are the easiest conditions, can I ask?

patent mesa
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if you're looking for just the easiest conditions and not the most valuable heat then EM1, TD1, UC, MM are good introductory conditions

zenith stump
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Thx man

mint coral
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I sometimes forget how big aphro % is lmao

warm marsh
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So if I am good enough to beat the game at 15, I can play and beat the game at 15 15 times and receive boss drops each time?

mint coral
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ye

dark peak
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What do I need to do to get the last aspect for my weapons?

heavy sigil
warm nimbus
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when selecting porridge at eurydice, if you only have 1 pommable boon, does it get 4 levels, or just one

mint coral
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One(1)

patent mesa
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god that would be so broken

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purge everything then pom beo flare

warm nimbus
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aww thats sad

warm marsh
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Gus what are the easiest heat options to deal with

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Say for 3 heat

gray apex
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Those are the ones I’d start with

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Then later on TD3 BP2 EM3 and maybe FO or HL LC

warm marsh
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I don't know the names

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But does it include the blue heart

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Seems pretty easy to deal with

gray apex
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The names are the pacts

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You can check them once you have the pact open before you start a run

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The blue hearts are Damage Control, they are very aspect dependent

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And they are annoying no matter what, I would focus on learning other things first

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The ones I listed are pretty much fundamentals for any high heat pact

warm marsh
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For the first time

gray apex
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Pick 2 of the ones I listed

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They’ll make up 3