chiron is also pretty good but it falls off when heat climbing
#h1-discussion
brisk trail
modern hull
I got the pierced butterfly achievement!! The 30%
brisk trail
noice
thick root
It sucks I can't create a proper build because I don't have access to rerolling yet :(
high island
My favorites are Hera and the hidden bow. Chiron is also fun but not as strong (but very easy to play). Zag Bow and Hestia can be very strong and fun but also quickly get bland for me after just a few runs. Eris and the hidden rail have more depth than Hestia and are also pretty powerful. And Zag Rail is... kinda pointless tbh because the other rails are so much stronger.
reef zodiac
Hestia is extremely good, I highly suggest it
It’s fantastic for players who aren’t confident getting in the faces of bosses (and also for speedrunning and high heat as well)
It’s a top 5 aspect in pretty much every context
silver fern
Finally got dionyssus’ legendary boon. Why was that so tedious to get lol
reef zodiac
Which Hermes legendary
quaint heath
It’s fantastic for players who aren’t confident getting in the faces of bosses (...
Is it me or enemy is harder to hit with Hestia shot, specially dash striking it. I'm playing on pc
reef zodiac
The setting “aim at cursor”
quaint heath
Can i get some principle explanation
quaint heath
Aim at cursor
Does turn it off means the game automatically target the enemy every time i push atk button ?
quaint heath
Wow
I thought auto aim already on, i noiticed it seem to guide my cursor correctly sometimes.
This change every thing about the rail.
gray apex
It helps but you'll barely notice it unless Aim at cursor is off
quaint heath
Crazy 140+ attempts and i am oblivious to this
The rail stuck on 14 heat for a while.
mint coral
uhh auto collect cast
Plume strats time
reef zodiac
Honestly Greater Recall doesn’t do that much for Beo
Well no it’s pretty decent for CShot Beo
But without CShot it’s kinda pointless
real fossil
i have a question
what are the requirements for ||chaos|| to give you beowulf's ||awakening phrase||
cause i cant seem to get it to work
gray apex
cause i cant seem to get it to work
Check pins in #h1-story-discussion
real fossil
hm
i've done all that
so it just seems to be bad rng
the shield is growing on me so ig i'll just keep using it till i get it
modern hull
Check pins in <#521035166471159828>
I have a question related to that
Asterius talked about me coming in empty handed to fight then zag mention the twin fists
After this should he give me the awakening phrase for gilgamesh?
gray apex
Yea if he mentioned the fists then it'll happen soon you just have to keep getting to Elysium and talking to him to get through that dialogue
quaint heath
You can check the fandom wiki
silver fern
Going to try to get the thorn of Thanatos trophy. The one where you gotta get 30% damage with the butterfly. Any tips?
silver fern
I did not even realize td turns off survival rooms
toxic sapphire
Now you can do 60
don't rush the man
lean ember
is there a skill gap in the raw hades combat or is it just about boons
reef zodiac
Absolutely skill is incredibly important
I couldn’t follow exactly what the top speedrunners do and get times as good as they do or as frequently as they do
gray apex
If you try high heat you'll barely have any boons anyway
You'll need to be good at playing with the absolute minimum
And your expectations are gonna be very low because you cant expect to get a lot of things you want anyway
reef zodiac
I’ve spent over 1K hours playing Hades and I still am nowhere near as good as so many other players
There’s always room to improve
signal aspen
I only have 580 hours 😔
silver fern
So questions about two prophecies. First, is there an easy way to get flame wheels release from the well of charon? IM assuming it has to be in elysium
And second, does the learn how to play the lyre one just happen over time? Or do i have to strum it like 50 times in a row?
gray apex
So questions about two prophecies. First, is there an easy way to get flame whee...
Reroll the wells using Fated Persuasion
gray apex
And second, does the learn how to play the lyre one just happen over time? Or do...
You have to play it 20x times not sure exactly how many
Doesnt have to be in a row
sour estuary
i bought this game last night and i just now beat the minotaur and atheus
what should i expect next?
reef zodiac
Are you asking what the next boss is?
sour estuary
yes
reef zodiac
The next area is Styx and the boss is Hades
warped atlas
Are you asking what the next boss is?
Do you want to know? Imo this game is really fun to find out as you play it
silver fern
i bought this game last night and i just now beat the minotaur and atheus
what s...
The next few chambers will be small and annoying
reef zodiac
that sounds like pain
He’s actually a fantastic fight imo
Very well designed, well paced
sour estuary
The next few chambers will be small and annoying
i never have died to normal enemies
reef zodiac
Pretty tricky to learn though
sour estuary
just bosses
gray apex
Styx enemies are quite tough at first
Poison everywhere, they're all beefy so if your damage isnt very good you can struggle too
sour estuary
i have an ok build i think
silver fern
i never have died to normal enemies
IM usually the same, but some of the enemies in that section inflict poison damage which can stack up quick
sour estuary
Poison everywhere, they're all beefy so if your damage isnt very good you can st...
235 hp and good damage rn
warped atlas
Is there any kind of concept art for unused characters, monsters, or gods?
gray apex
For bosses just be deliberate and learn the moves, your dashes have iframes and it takes quite a bit of practice to time those well
silver fern
Once you’re poisoned, make sure to use the glowing yellow pool in the room to cure yourself. And do it fast
reef zodiac
I don’t think I’ve died in Styx in actual months
gray apex
You can take a screenshot and send the link here
sour estuary
For bosses just be deliberate and learn the moves, your dashes have iframes and...
i mean i beat the last boss first try
the minotaur and athens
warped atlas
where can i show my current build
I think you can share it pretty much wherever, but there is also a channel below to show it
reef zodiac
i mean i beat the last boss first try
Damn that’s pretty good
sour estuary
I think you can share it pretty much wherever, but there is also a channel below...
i dont have perms to
reef zodiac
I think you can share it pretty much wherever, but there is also a channel below...
No that’s only for clears
That’s for your victory screenshot
sour estuary
can i dm someone the build so i know if its any good or even worth trying still
warped atlas
No that’s only for clears
well there's also a builds and combat channel
fickle dew
the minotaur and athens
athens lul
warped atlas
can i dm someone the build so i know if its any good or even worth trying still
you could prob just post it in this channel if you want
sour estuary
you could prob just post it in this channel if you want
we dont have image perms
in any channel
warped atlas
ah, okay sorry
reef zodiac
Send it in another server and then copy the link
silver fern
What weapon are you using?
sour estuary
What weapon are you using?
the gauntlet thingys
fickle dew
the fists then
silver fern
Those are my least favorite of them all lol
sour estuary
its my favorite and i have them all
warped atlas
havent played in a while, but i really liked them
fickle dew
I actually got my first cleared escape with fists
reef zodiac
the gauntlet thingys
Oh then you don’t have to send it, build is bad ||(/j)|| 
silver fern
My favorite is the shield
fickle dew
and suddenly afterwards the bow became my favorite, pew pew pew
sour estuary
I actually got my first cleared escape with fists
can i dm you my fist build
i wanna know if i picked right
reef zodiac
Send it in another server and then copy the link
@sour estuary
fickle dew
I'm not an hades pro lol
sour estuary
<@!698155946119266306>
it wont embed
warped atlas
pretty much any build is good honestly i think
fickle dew
gaming 
sour estuary
the level 4 curse of agony works WONDERS
fickle dew
single DD tho
sour estuary
single DD tho
i have been buying ichor until i found more lol, sadly none yet
gray apex
You wont find more unless you already lost that DD
warped atlas
idk how good advice this is since i havent played in a while, but i really like taking Dionysus' attack for my fists so that i can stack the poison, and then i used to get ares special for the uppercut so that im basically always doing damage
sour estuary
You wont find more unless you already lost that DD
oh ok
sour estuary
idk how good advice this is since i havent played in a while, but i really like ...
i just picked this stuff because hahah big health and big damage brrr
warped atlas
i just picked this stuff because hahah big health and big damage brrr
yeah, i know this may sound dumb, but as long as you feel like youre doing good and youre having fun any build should be good. I dont really know much about min/max type stuff though
reef zodiac
I do
sour estuary
yeah, i know this may sound dumb, but as long as you feel like youre doing good ...
when i die i feel pain
immense pain
reef zodiac
I can tell you optimal builds and I can say what’s fun for me but I obviously can’t tell you what will be fun for you
warped atlas
when i die i feel pain
Hypnos will always be there to welcome you
well most of the time
sour estuary
Hypnos will always be there to welcome you
eh i like the green dude more
forgot his name
warped atlas
Achilles?
sour estuary
yeah
warped atlas
yeah he's cool
warped atlas
yeah, i genuinely dont think theres a single character that i dont like
reef zodiac
Tony
warped atlas
who?
sour estuary
yeah, i genuinely dont think theres a single character that i dont like
i dislike meg
and all her sisters
warped atlas
i dislike meg
what?! how?
sour estuary
she doesn't give up and just let me through
reef zodiac
sour estuary
so im forced to waste time fighting her
reef zodiac
Tony Vermin
warped atlas
I guess she can be kinda annoying being grumpy at first, but its her job and she changes as you play
warped atlas
Tony Vermin
is that the rat mini boss?
reef zodiac
Yes
warped atlas
oh okay
reef zodiac
We call him Tony
warped atlas
I didnt know that, ill keep it in mind
sour estuary
poseidon and the wine dude are my 2 favorite gods rn
warped atlas
btw sorry for interrupting. @sour estuary it sounds like @reef zodiac could tell you some good builds if you need them
signal aspen
Don't die that's a bad play
mint coral
reduce your enemies hp to 0 while keeping yours above 0
signal aspen
We call him Tony
Tony is cool
mint coral
Anthony is not a cool rat
signal aspen
You'll come back to the chamber you were in before you left
sour estuary
oh so i dont need to worry?
signal aspen
Yeah
sour estuary
alr good
signal aspen
Btw if you take damage in a room you can't leave until all enemies (or you) are dead
sour estuary
ok
proud glacier
what if you force quit the game?
reef zodiac
who do i give my nectar
Me 
lean ember
Me <:squirtyay:456913427550699552>
reef zodiac
lean ember
uwu
reef zodiac
signal aspen
owo
raw herald
Owne weapon onwy (OwO) wuwes
achieve victowy with 4 wuns in a wow, with each victowy using a diffewent aspect of the same weapon. Aspects cawn be used in any owdew.
must be a singwe awnd continuous sewies of wuns. No quit-outs (awt-f4s, give-ups, quits ow cwashes) mid-wun.
show the pwevious wun's death (ow a wun compwetion with the death) at the stawt of the video.
time stawts as soon as uwu cawn move aftew fawwing out of the window, awnd ends the instant the finaw boss of the wast aspect wun dies. In gawme time (igt) iws nowt wewevant, weave thiws bwank whewn submitting.
any miwwow, weapon, ow stawting keepsake cawn be used. Uwu awe encouwaged tuwu unwock aww of these, but iwt iws nowt necessawy.
signal aspen
Cursed
lean ember
W
devout terrace
W
lean ember
Where do I find videos of skilled hades combat
signal aspen
I looked up skilled hades combat and I found this guy, he's pretty good at the game https://youtu.be/_aMtspvjq80
high island
Where do I find videos of skilled hades combat
The High Heat Leaderboard that's pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies has links to videos for all the runs.
silver fern
How did i get through the entirety of elysium without one well of charon? I saved all my dice for it so i can finally get that stupid flame wheel release thing
reef zodiac
Not as rare as you think actually, to have Ely with no wells
mint coral
https://docs.google.com/document/d/137Vqe-8fvStMJ_HMlBKWwq3SVdoOED0lOpBBSmgGwtQ/edit?usp=sharing
@safe crag collection of tips for Dad (from Nyaanyaa)
sent here cuz i dont remember how to stop the embed
safe crag
Ohh, thank you!
high island
sent here cuz i dont remember how to stop the embed
<link>
mint coral
ty
versed wraith
anyone else have a hard time getting back into the swing of things once ya start after a hiatus?
reef zodiac
It can take a bit
But the muscle memory is still there, you just need to practice a bit and you’ll get back into it
silver fern
I’m about to fight redacted for the first time with desperate measures. Don’t know what to expect so wish me luck
slim geyser
reef zodiac
“It’s just me and also 3 sneaks”
brisk trail
just kill them 
silver fern
not the puppo
brisk trail
did you just have EM4, nothing else?
reef zodiac
just kill them <:merushrug:669917102144225290>
If only it was that simple
brisk trail
is it not that simple with just EM4?
brisk trail
lol
brisk trail
is there a limit to how many enemies hades can spawn at once
mint coral
iirc yeah
easy to see if he summons the dire crystal and you let the mini cystals alive
when he summons the next batch of mini boss nothing appears
brisk trail
is the limit the same for Em4 and without?
mint coral
no clue for non em4
brisk trail
alright
icy knoll
when should i use meg on em4 hades
reef zodiac
when should i use meg on em4 hades
I usually use it phase 1-3 and try to hit a bunch of summons with it
mint coral
Ye
brisk trail
reef zodiac
phase 1 is the only time he summons right
Yeah, at the start of 1-2 he summons one miniboss and then at 1-3 he summons two more
brisk trail
ah cool
brisk trail
Yeah, at the start of 1-2 he summons one miniboss and then at 1-3 he summons two...
what are the summon rates on non em4 do you know?
reef zodiac
I think he summons about the same number in 1-2 as 1-3 but I’m not certain
brisk trail
also when people talk about 2 sneaks = death, is that referring to phase 1-3 where he summons 2 at once, since you can kill each miniboss seperately in 1-1 and 1-2?
brisk trail
especially with FO2 I assume
fast willow
sneak bad
reef zodiac
So it may be manageable for lower heat to focus on killing a sneak that you get in 1-2 before going to 1-3, it’s often not really an option at high heat
reef zodiac
And sneaks just make it very hard to safely dodge and do damage to Hades when they can just appear and throw crap at you
silver fern
Is there a good strat to get the trophy for using a gods greater call against them?
mint coral
Go with a lot of DDs/high hp and just let enemies hit you
reef zodiac
High hp actually doesn’t help I don’t think
I believe that your call charges equal to the % of your health lost
This is why the routed loyalty card % runs use lvl 1 Guan Yu
slim geyser
i thought you meant lucifer dem attack and i was.. confused
meme beams are super fun though
leaden birch
Like for the basic uh
leaden birch
I wanna do a Demeter-laser focused run sometime
Basic boons for this I'd just need
Crystal Beam, Glacial Glare, Snow Burst
For a start
slim geyser
use achillies
leaden birch
Crystal Clarity
Blizzard shot
Wait
Whoops that's the wrong thing
Crystal Beam, Glacial Glare, Snow Burst, Crystal Clarity, Mirage shot
Basically using the laser as the main source of attack
Wait if you use the +2 cast mirror thing and mirage shot that'd mean like 6 lasers
slim geyser
yeah
leaden birch
wait
If you were to get fully loaded too
And a chaos boon for another +1 cast
6 casts
And with mirage shot, that's 12 lasers
slim geyser
you’re probably not getting fully loaded with all those boons you need
though 2+ casts from chaos is possible
signal aspen
Chaos curse brings them down to 10 hp
trail citrus
Howdy
new player here. I'm curious about some things
I'm playing the game and loving it tons. I have a bit of a policy of once I platinum a game, I start messing around with mods and save edits. Is that a possibility here?
gray apex
Yes
void vigil
there is an entire modding server pinned in #self-promotion that you can check out once you want to do that
trail citrus
Nice. Of course this is stupid op, but it is something for fun only after I do everything else: is it possible to add boons to our character through save edit? Say, something ridiculous like having all (compatible) duo boons?
trail citrus
there is an entire modding server pinned in <#505164873328754688> that you can c...
tnx ^_^
raw herald
There’s mods that allow you to
trail citrus
Well, gotta get to work then
Managed to get to hades already, gotta learn that bastard's move set now
icy knoll
can you get stubborn roots with ri4
iron oyster
And with mirage shot, that's **12 lasers**
Is mirage flare a thing
That’s my question
Wait damn im@dumb
Sorry I meant the crystal beam as a flare
iron oyster
can you get stubborn roots with ri4
Probably not,
Seeing you don’t have a defiance to upgrade
void vigil
i think if you have skellys keepsake you can get it? but dont take my word on it
vapid narwhal
uh, iirc SR requires the actual death/stubborn defiance
void vigil
idk if that trick was patched out but it seems like in 2020 it worked at least
devout terrace
can you get stubborn roots with ri4
Yes actually
I remember watching a 57 max heat run from mid 2020 that got it
With ri4
high island
You need to have a Defiance slot, which you can get mid-run from Lucky Tooth or from Master Chaos. You can lose the DD and still get the boon if the slot is still there.
icy knoll
neat
trail citrus
damn, hades keeps kicking my ass XD
tbh, the best to do is just upgrade the character, no?
leaden birch
Sorry I meant the crystal beam as a flare
Ye it's just
Not a crystal Beam anymore I think
Just becomes a blast
mint coral
Icy flare 
icy knoll
tbh, the best to do is just upgrade the character, no?
learn his attack patterns, they're pretty simple once you get the hang of them
and if he fires laser beams get as close to him as possible, he can't hit you with the beams if you're close enough
brisk trail
best sg game other than hades?
mint coral
For me is Pyre
reef zodiac
best sg game other than hades?
As someone who hasn’t played any of the other SGG games, yes
silver fern
If i purge a hermes boon, is it possible to find another?
Like if i purged the second one i got
reef zodiac
Yes
high island
Nope. Just the 50% chance to find a third one in the final shop like always.
reef zodiac
Well
Oh maybe that’s only in Tartarus
If you buy a Hermes boon in Tartarus then you can sell it to get two new Hermes boons later
I guess that doesn’t apply to other regions
devout terrace
If you buy a Hermes boon in Tartarus then you can sell it to get two new Hermes ...
what
reef zodiac
Is that not true?
devout terrace
im like 95% sure this is false
devout terrace
you can never get more than 2 hermes boons before styx
reef zodiac
I heard it from Haelian a while ago and could have sworn it was working but I could totally be wrong
gray apex
Is that not true?
That's not true
2 Hermes max per run no matter if you sell it or whatever
3rd from styx
If that was the case you wouldnt see people resetting on Hermes
reef zodiac
That’s crazy that I thought this then
Lmao
I have way too many hours to believe something like this
lean ember
I just beat that gross zombie sister(forgot her name) for the first time and didnt get any titan blood, I dont know how to get more
reef zodiac
Tisiphone?
lean ember
yeah
slim geyser
“gross zombie sister” :(
devout terrace
Lmao
hard plaza
I honestly like tisiphone the best
devout terrace
Tisiphone and Charon could've been a great love story
hard plaza
also, I think (not sure) all Furies count as one, so you won't get titan blood like that
hard plaza
Tisiphone and Charon could've been a great love story
True
mint coral
also, I think (not sure) all Furies count as one, so you won't get titan blood l...
Yeah its this
Only 1 blood per weapon for the first boss
trail citrus
Btw, what are the detailed changes god mode does?
trail citrus
intersting mechanic. Ty
umbral parrot
I just beat that gross zombie sister(forgot her name) for the first time and did...
Dont treat her like that.. 
its not her fault
lean ember
im sorry
lean ember
Tisiphone and Charon could've been a great love story
omg your right
umbral parrot
also, I think (not sure) all Furies count as one, so you won't get titan blood l...
Yes
They all count as the end boss for Tartarus
icy knoll
is achilles decent on kbm
reef zodiac
Probably better on KBM
lean ember
Do you think they will make a sequel to hades that takes place directly after the first game events?
Or just any sequel
mint coral
nah
reef zodiac
No
gritty orbit
raw herald
Bon appetite!
signal aspen
Bone jaw
devout terrace
Imperdable
iron oyster
and if he fires laser beams get as close to him as possible, he can't hit you wi...
Unless em4, he pushes you away
fresh steppe
favorite duo boon?
reef zodiac
Smoldering Air
signal aspen
Freezing vortex
brisk trail
mint coral
smoldering air too
brisk trail
Idrc about duos cos my favourite build doesn’t rely on any to be good
Tho smair is nice to have 
signal aspen
What's your favorite build
brisk trail
Arthur with a bunch of aphrodite, athena dash, and frozen touch
brisk trail
Because you get hit alot and max chill on anything that hits you is very helpful
reef zodiac
reef zodiac
Frozen touch is at best a below average boon
brisk trail
Ok
lone kernel
I didnt a little choked up when we told mom Cerberus is doing very well just now you did
iron oyster
Frozen touch is *at best* a below average boon
meme revenge build
brisk trail
Arthur+aphro has so much damage negation taking a hit is ok, even with HL. The 40% slow is amazing for bosses, negates FO if you have that. Alternatively take demeter attack but then you miss out on some damage, so with frozen touch you can have weak and chill without sacrificing damage
Unless you’re omegachad you’re gonna get hit with arthur, having defensive options is never bad
celest sedge
I am so rusty at hades right now I didn’t play it for a year and my last save was deleted, can someone help me defeat hades or help beat Minos
brisk trail
That’s a pretty broad request, what specifically are you struggling with 
icy knoll
favorite duo boon?
ice wine
and/or scintillating feast
high island
That’s a pretty broad request, what specifically are you struggling with <a:Thon...
Hades the video game.
brisk trail
Just learn their attack patterns, dodge those attacks then attack when you have an opening
What more is there to say
latent moon
go big or go home, turn it up to extreme measures 4 and relearn the game that way
reef zodiac
I am so rusty at hades right now I didn’t play it for a year and my last save wa...
Minos does not appear in game at any point
Do you mean Theseus?
opaque arch
I hope they make some sort of pvp fighting game for a hades sequel or something
reef zodiac
I wouldn’t get too attached to that hope
opaque arch
well I at least hope for a sequel
reef zodiac
well I at least hope for a sequel
Wouldn’t get too attacked to that hope either
reef zodiac
My guess is SG has moved onto a completely new game
I agree
opaque arch
My guess is SG has moved onto a completely new game
if its like hades ill love it
reef zodiac
Odds are, their next game will be completely new ip
brisk trail
It’s not a rogue tho
reef zodiac
New ip, different genre too
I just hope it has challenge run potential. They clearly know how to make a good boss so I’m hoping for some of those too
opaque arch
I hope they do SOMETHING with Hades, like at least big updates each year or something idk
reef zodiac
they’re done with the game
reef zodiac
Almost certainly no more updates
brisk trail
If you like action rogues you could tryout dead cells or curse of the dead gods
opaque arch
Hades is literally my first rogue so ig I do like rogues
brisk trail
Dead cells never stops getting updates tho
celest sedge
Minos does not appear in game at any point
Do you mean Theseus?
Bothe of them
brisk trail
Ummm kill bull first then kill thesius
It’s as simple as learning attack patterns and how to avoid those attacks, then smack em when it’s safe to
@celest sedge what aspect you using
The build and/or strategy you use to fight the bosses may change depending on what aspect you use
brisk trail
Almost certainly
reef zodiac
It’s just funny to hear “Minos does not appear in game” and be like “yep that’s the boss I’m struggling with”
celest sedge
<@!894960724605038652> what aspect you using
I got 1 blood titan but I am not allowed to unlock the Zagreus aspect
celest sedge
It’s just funny to hear “Minos does not appear in game” and be like “yep that’s ...
😂
reef zodiac
I got 1 blood titan but I am not allowed to unlock the Zagreus aspect
Wym not allowed
celest sedge
Wym not allowed
I keep on trying but I am not allowed unlock it
reef zodiac
What
brisk trail
opaque arch
why isnt my boy hercules in the game 😤
void vigil
i think theres a statue of him you can buy but thats it
fresh steppe
favorite legendary boon?
brisk trail
Splitting bolt
reef zodiac
Yeah splitting is by far the best legendary, that boon is absurdly good
I’m also a fan of Bad News because I think the spaghetti code is funny
brisk trail
Extremely good
silver fern
Geez i didnt realize my fastest run was 18:20 with the gloves. Gloves are my least favorite and i just did a 24 run and thought it was good
void vigil
its like advanced nectar, but it also has some other uses
opaque arch
like
void vigil
id save it, but you can trade a little and still have some spare in the end
slim geyser
yeah save it for now
opaque arch
alright thanks
iron oyster
and cosmetics, much later on in the game
or trading titan blood if you're low on it
turbid notch
There's something I'm aiming towards, but I don't know if I'm progressing properly, I could use a low-spoiler hint to make sure I'm on the right path
||So I've recently convinced Persephone to return to the underworld, and I'm looking to unlock these 'companions' I keep hearing about. What I'm currently doing is crossing off things on the Fated Propheses list, and giving the various olympian gods nectar as the list hints I need to do that. I'm sitting on a stock of nearly 30 ambrosia. Do I just need to escape the underworld a few more times, or is there something else I should be working on?||
brisk trail
16 on steam, 32 in game if you count the statues
peak orbit
I found something cool
If you beat the game at EM4 and kill Hades before he jumps to his thrown spear, the spear remains in the battlefield after you collect the reward
devout terrace
Same can happen with theseus actually
peak orbit
There's something I'm aiming towards, but I don't know if I'm progressing proper...
||You want to meet people as much as possible. Ambrosia is not just for companions but are also for everyone. So Dingo what you want to do is talk to everyone as much as possible. All companions are chthonic BTW so don't worry about the gods. Maxing out the god's heart meters is for the true ending to the game. To get companions you want these guys to open up. So you know, complete questlines for all of them.||
turbid notch
Thanks!
peak orbit
Same can happen with theseus actually
That's cool!
brisk trail
Hi
can u download Hades on a chromebook? And can you download it as an app, and not on steam?
umbral parrot
I keep on trying but I am not allowed unlock it
Zagreus aspect is default
gray apex
Best bet is to ask that in the Modding server, but sounds like you just want to break the game lol
trail citrus
I wanna platinum the game before I mod, so I can just break the game for fun XD
ok, better work to platinum it and then platinum/complete it
It's gonna take a while to get all the badges, no?
modern hull
I just got gilgamesh and lost 2 DDs to meg 💀💀 with no heat
reef zodiac
Gilgamesh moment
modern hull
In another run i escaped without using DDs or god mode so gilgamesh just sucks
reef zodiac
Yeah this is kinda known lol
brisk trail
There's something I'm aiming towards, but I don't know if I'm progressing proper...
to unlock them well
this is a spoiler
||max out the hearts for some charecters the charecters being thanatos, megera, dusa, achilies||
also i got the unseen one rank after soooo long
void vigil
congrats! im still working on it.. on and off lol
im a bit over halfway there, darkness wise. i have all the other resources
signal aspen
I'm like 7 ranks away 
silver fern
Can fated authority change the room reward to be a duo god room?
modern hull
If we just had dinner with the olymians then thats it? No more main story?
silver fern
If we just had dinner with the olymians then thats it? No more main story?
That’s the end of the meaty story parts. Theres still more character development for other characters you meet
crude surge
I need to grind unseen one of these days
trail citrus
I need some quick tips
Is there a specific way to farm something? I suppose no heat would be optimal, correct?
I'm trying to unlock the weapon aspects. How many times do I have to talk with akiles? Should I just restart and keep dying till he gives me the damn words?
What do I need to get the aspect of the stigyus? I kinda wanted to go all in with that opne first.
What is hte worst weapon of the game? I suppose that if I can do higher heat with that one, I can havez a breeze with the then better weapons.
reef zodiac
Is there a specific way to farm something? I suppose no heat would be optimal, c...
No heat except maybe TD for no survival rooms. Clear the full run because you get the most darkness from Hades
reef zodiac
I'm trying to unlock the weapon aspects. How many times do I have to talk with a...
I assume you mean Guan Yu?
reef zodiac
What do I need to get the aspect of the stigyus? I kinda wanted to go all in wit...
The hidden aspect of the sword? You need Guan Yu first. The prerequisites are in a pinned message in #h1-story-discussion
reef zodiac
What is hte worst weapon of the game? I suppose that if I can do higher heat wit...
Worst weapon is probably fists, worst aspect is probably Gilgamesh.
Does this answer your questions?
trail citrus
No heat except maybe TD for no survival rooms. Clear the full run because you ge...
TD?
reef zodiac
Tight Deadline
trail citrus
Worst weapon is probably fists, worst aspect is probably Gilgamesh.
Well, time for me to go fisting I guess XD
trail citrus
Tight Deadline
I don't quite get how that helps with farming O.o
reef zodiac
Well, time for me to go fisting I guess XD
That’s probably not the way I’d suggest going about it
reef zodiac
I don't quite get how that helps with farming O.o
No survival rooms. I already said this
trail citrus
I assume you mean Guan Yu?
Yeah. Do I have to spend any titan blood on that first? Or do I just keep talking with akiles for the line in order to be able to go into aspects.
trail citrus
No survival rooms. I already said this
I see. The "survive X time" ones, correct?
reef zodiac
Yes
trail citrus
There was soe youtuber saying the sword was probably the worst. Me, I guess it's up to personal taste
reef zodiac
Yeah. Do I have to spend any titan blood on that first? Or do I just keep talkin...
No you don’t need titan blood. Achilles is only for Guan Yu, the other aspects are unlocked in different ways. I again direct you to the pinned message in #h1-story-discussion
reef zodiac
There was soe youtuber saying the sword was probably the worst. Me, I guess it's...
Sword, fists, and spear are noticeably worse than the other three
But fists are the worst
They have the worst speedrun times and the lowest heat records
trail citrus
I suppose it makes sense. People can't be as careless when they get close.
reef zodiac
It also just has low damage
trail citrus
ok, fist are the worst, then sword, then spear. I'll have to git gud to properly use those, and that's what I want anyway
reef zodiac
And are very greedy when it comes to boons
reef zodiac
ok, fist are the worst, then sword, then spear. I'll have to git gud to properly...
Or you could use a good weapon and get good with that instead
trail citrus
This is why I wanna break the game after I complete it XD
reef zodiac
Break how
trail citrus
Mods
But it will take a long ass time to complete the game, I can see that already XD
trail citrus
Sorry, but I'm still confuse
I got all weapons available. How do I get the frist aspects? I mean, special conditions are only for the final ones, correct?
ok, one more run
latent moon
I got all weapons available. How do I get the frist aspects? I mean, special con...
once you select a weapon, where the empty slot is, interact with it again and you can view aspects
whole plinth
not really active here (or sure if this is the right place for it but) https://i.redd.it/kck662oglbt81.png
trail citrus
once you select a weapon, where the empty slot is, interact with it again and yo...
ty. u portuguese or brazillian, btw? I'm from Portugal myself
latent moon
American lol
marsh ore
Hey I'm trying to complete Achilles' favor but the voice lines just aren't happening, are there any hidden requirements I don't know of?
trail citrus
I either really need to git gud, or the fists really need select boons to be worthwhile
They are pretty damn good to learn enemy move sets, though. Just go ahead with punch flurries and learn to identify their attacks
fresh steppe
zeus attack is good on fists iirc
trail citrus
I beat hades at the second try with them, so I'll be using them for a while
I don't understand how it is good. I got it on my first attempt, but seemed subpar O.o
Like, it doesn't increasde fist damage, so against bosses, gg.
trail citrus
Maybe I wasn't focusing enough on fast attack + dash?
fresh steppe
so it does do good damage
trail citrus
Or maybe i didn't upgrade it enough. Can be as well
marsh ore
Have you unlocked its final aspect yet?
trail citrus
I usually prioritize boons instead of poms
No. I don't rteally wanna use that aspect yet, anyway
Is it any good?
fresh steppe
and you should be getting more poms
marsh ore
Is it any good?
Ah alr I won't spoil, but it is very different, I rlly like it and think it's amazing but I also don't rlly like the base forms so take it with a grain of salt
trail citrus
Also, is there a pact "build" for the statue and stuff?
trail citrus
Ah alr I won't spoil, but it is very different, I rlly like it and think it's am...
Spoil it to me, if you may. I already read it's description
marsh ore
Ah so
||it basically is just a dash build, it has 4 dashes to start, and has an ability with the dash-upper that I think is cool||
||so posidon dash everything into walls till they disintegrate||
trail citrus
That's on the 4rth upgrade, or do u need to get the dashes rom hermes?
marsh ore
The aspect has 4 dashes in it's base kit
You can get more from Hermes I think but I'm not sure
reef zodiac
Ah Gilgamesh
reef zodiac
Just don’t press the attack or special buttons
trail citrus
The aspect has 4 dashes in it's base kit
ight, seems like I really need to get that XD
marsh ore
I rlly like it but some people don't idk how meta it is
marsh ore
Just don’t press the attack or special buttons <:squirtyay:456913427550699552>
Maim is kinda fun tho
fresh steppe
id personally stick it under cool but there are better options
trail citrus
I get melee being comparatively worse to ranged. If it is possible to do this through modding, after completing the game, I may increase melee damage to make p for the need to close the distance.
However, I do feel that melee is a wonder to learn enemy move sets. Learn their cues, when and where to dash, so on
Kinda feels like dark souls at times, using the dahes immunity frames at the specific time.
reef zodiac
Maim is kinda fun tho
Well, personally I like not doing a slow attack with low damage that then increases the amount of damage I take from enemies. But you do you
reef zodiac
Kinda feels like dark souls at times, using the dahes immunity frames at the spe...
Absolutely
trail citrus
5 llightning ffast punches that can be canceled into a dash at any time...
Any pact "builds" out there to get the skelly statues, btw, or will I have to pick up everything for that? T.T
marsh ore
Well, personally I like not doing a slow attack with low damage that then increa...
Yea it isn't good just just kinda fun when it works, plus I'm still low heat so I don't have to worry as much (my highest heat is on the bow and is 18)
reef zodiac
Any pact "builds" out there to get the skelly statues, btw, or will I have to pi...
Hestia
trail citrus
what?
signal aspen
Pancake they mean pacts not aspects lmao
trail citrus
^this
reef zodiac
Oh pacts?
marsh ore
im still confused on why stubborn defiance becomes better at high heat
fresh steppe
lasting consequences
reef zodiac
Use Tight Deadline 3
fresh steppe
_im still confused on why stubborn defiance becomes better at high heat_
basically when like, you're using lc4 you can't heal. but stubborn defiance still heals you so you use that for healing basically
trail citrus
thank you. How much u need for the gold statue?
marsh ore
lasting consequences
I forget what that one does I'm still low heat
reef zodiac
_im still confused on why stubborn defiance becomes better at high heat_
- Lasting Consequences 4 means no healing
- Normal rooms become very hard and getting through all of them without taking much damage is incredibly unrealistic
reef zodiac
thank you. How much u need for the gold statue?
Gold? There’s 3 statues in total, for 8, 16, and 32 heat
Yes
marsh ore
1. Lasting Consequences 4 means no healing
2. Normal rooms become very hard and ...
But isn't stubborn defiance once per region?
trail citrus
Isn't the highest heat like 60?
reef zodiac
What, would you prefer EM4?
reef zodiac
Isn't the highest heat like 60?
64
trail citrus
em?
reef zodiac
But isn't stubborn defiance once per region?
Once per chamber
trail citrus
ah, expert measures 4?
reef zodiac
Extreme
marsh ore
Once per chamber
What's the difference between chamber and encounter or are they the same?
reef zodiac
What's the difference between chamber and encounter or are they the same?
You said region lmao
trail citrus
I read on it. Seems hard, but I'd rather learn more on the move set than being unable to heal the whole run T.T
signal aspen
Encounters have enemies
fresh steppe
yeah
signal aspen
I read on it. Seems hard, but I'd rather learn more on the move set than being u...
Huh
marsh ore
You said region lmao
I did, I just wanted to make sure ik all three apart since ik region and encounter
reef zodiac
I read on it. Seems hard, but I'd rather learn more on the move set than being u...
Trust me LC4 not remotely as bad as you think. LC4 is absolutely without a doubt universally worthwhile for 32 heat
trail citrus
If I can't heal, how am i gonna do it then?
reef zodiac
Stubborn Defiance
trail citrus
I haven0t ever managed to get through the game without healing, I can guarantee that
signal aspen
Guan yu
reef zodiac
I haven0t ever managed to get through the game without healing, I can guarantee ...
Stubborn Defiance
trail citrus
Stubborn Defiance
I am including the hp I get from stubborn deffiance
trail citrus
ah, I see
reef zodiac
And it heals you up to 30%
If you have 200hp, you can take 60 damage in every single chamber
Who needs healing
marsh ore
so you just have to accept you will never be full hp again?
trail citrus
Problem is, I lose most hp from single encounters, not from chip damage T.T
signal aspen
_so you just have to accept you will never be full hp again?_
Well items can increase sd regen
And patty
signal aspen
Yeah
marsh ore
Oh
trail citrus
ok, I'll be slowly making my way there
signal aspen
But then you get a 3 sack and it runs out before dad fight
marsh ore
Patty makes it restore 80% instead of 30% lmao
For how long?
trail citrus
Will come here when I get to a roadblock
reef zodiac
15
reef zodiac
I wouldn’t suggest LC4 SD until 32 btw
reef zodiac
Problem is, I lose most hp from single encounters, not from chip damage T.T
Well if you have 200hp, you can lose a maximum of 119hp in one room if you entered with 60
That’s a lot
short glen
I haven't played since August, I should not have jumped back in to 17 heat with maxed the option that spawns more enemies and the option that makes them move faster. That was a bad choice to start with
EM3 was probably also not a good choice
reef zodiac
Yeah JS3 really sucks
Don’t take that one lol
I don’t suggest JS3 until around 45 heat
And even JS1/2 should probably be saved until the high 30s
short glen
Huh. Good to know, what would you suggest instead
short glen
Maimed Soul on Arthur was also a bad idea dsffk
marsh ore
And even JS1/2 should probably be saved until the high 30s
Me who was doing js3 for my 18 and 19 heat runs so now I understand what I did wrong
signal aspen
scared of td
Takes pacts that make you slow instead
marsh ore
But now that I actually tried td (cuz of that chart someone posted) it's rlly not that bad at td 1-2
gaunt falcon
reef zodiac
Playing easy rooms quickly is way better than playing hard rooms slowly
Trust me
You can learn to play quickly enough that TD3 is free, but you can’t exactly learn to play well enough that JS3 doesn’t make rooms harder
marsh ore
Js was kinda fun tho
reef zodiac
Can’t agree
signal aspen
No
marsh ore
I mean again this was at low heat
twin thistle
reef zodiac
Spending 2 minutes in any Elysium room because there are 70+ flame wheels spawning 1-by-1 isn’t my definition of fun
marsh ore
Spending 2 minutes in any Elysium room because there are 70+ flame wheels spawni...
I understand, those floors were annoying
signal aspen
I love it when there are 5 waves of unarmored swordsmen in c34 🙂
twin thistle
shorter runs will prolly help you improve faster too. running through with more builds and aspects and fighting bosses more
reef zodiac
True
short glen
MM max fo barge of death with maimed soul arthur went better than I thought it would
signal aspen
MM barge is so much better than normal barge
marsh ore
shorter runs will prolly help you improve faster too. running through with more ...
Long time no see how ya been
signal aspen
Good hbu
twin thistle
dead inside as always 
short glen
MM barge is so much better than normal barge
I mean yeah, but it's not exactly easy to do with Arthur's special
reef zodiac
Just attack and don’t get hit
marsh ore
Are Erebus gates a scam?
reef zodiac
Generally not a scam
But not necessarily worth taking
Tartarus centaur heart Erebus gates are so goated though
twin thistle
about an 80% chance for elysium erebus gates to spawn a dire bball right on top of you. generally not worth at high heat
signal aspen
Nice
short glen
I forgot how easy EM lernie is. It's a shame you have to take EM1 for it though cause that one is actually harder
twin thistle
em lernie ez till youre playing melee and he three shots you at fo2
short glen
Arthur is so fun on EM Lernie cause I hit like half the extra heads every time I swing sword
signal aspen
Hitting 3 heads with one hit is so satisfying
twin thistle
cshot beo and head go boom
reef zodiac
I forgot how easy EM lernie is. It's a shame you have to take EM1 for it though ...
Uh yeah he’s definitely easy 
I definitely don’t die to him more often than EM3 champions
brisk trail
I had a dream where I was playing hades and I had JS3 and TD3 but I was in a room and the enemies never stopped spawning so I died to timer
reef zodiac
That wasn’t a dream that was Elysium
brisk trail
twin thistle
infinitely spawning tart witches
short glen
I admit I did not expect to win my first run in months with higher heat than I'd handled before. Especially not after I blew two lives before elysium. But I got back into the swing of things apparently and also got 2 more death defiances from wells and pulled it off
leaden birch
Only have 2 more prophecies left until all of the prophecies are done
Already got 100% on the steam stuff but I'll only count it as 100% when the prophecies are done.
And then
I think I'm gonna play hades a bit less often
but before that
I'm gonna do some wacky stuff with modded
short glen
I won with 0 time left lol
leaden birch
awesome
iron oyster
I forgot how easy EM lernie is. It's a shame you have to take EM1 for it though ...
em3 heroes are arguably easier too
theseus doesnt have that stupid shield until phase 2, at which point he's at like 40% health and an easy finish
i suppose the spin attack from asterius could prove to be pretty bad
reef zodiac
Lmao god no
short glen
That spin attack is a nightmare, at least for me
silver fern
Ahh help decide. Chaos or trial of the gods
reef zodiac
You’re on the good stuff if you think EM3 makes champions easier
short glen
Ahh help decide. Chaos or trial of the gods
Chaos
iron oyster
You’re on the good stuff if you think EM3 makes champions easier
only for me at like 8 heat
iron oyster
You’re on the good stuff if you think EM3 makes champions easier
want to know my dealer? i have very good contacts
reef zodiac
leaden birch
theseus doesnt have that stupid shield until phase 2, at which point he's at lik...
Honestly when he goes into phase 2 in EM3 I kinda just
use my companion to finish em
the fight is basically over when he goes into that phase
reef zodiac
Yeah it’s a take I’ve heard before and it will always be extremely wrong lmao
reef zodiac
use my companion to finish em
Or just do that at the start of the fight
So you guarantee you hit both of them
short glen
Theseus is arguably easier in em, asterious however is not
silver fern
champs easier on EM3? <a:Thonkerz:893914661974581249><a:Thonkerz:893914661974581...
The only thing easier in my opinion is the chariot. Its pretty easy to read where its going
reef zodiac
Big “arguably” there
He’s definitely not btw
short glen
In other news, I have beat multiple runs in TD3 now.
short glen
IDK I've always had less trouble with him in EM
reef zodiac
Insane
iron oyster
champs easier on EM3? <a:Thonkerz:893914661974581249><a:Thonkerz:893914661974581...
Only on lower heat
brisk trail
iron oyster
<a:CatNo:768542034394873877>
For me, it is
reef zodiac
Your subjective experience is incorrect
celest sedge
champs easier on EM3? <a:Thonkerz:893914661974581249><a:Thonkerz:893914661974581...
no lol
celest sedge
Oh ok
iron oyster
Your subjective experience is incorrect <:squirtyay:456913427550699552>
K then
iron oyster
~~actually EM4 is easier than normal Hades~~
Wow how did you know that yes em4 is totally much easier than normal
reef zodiac
brisk trail
twin thistle
em3 heroes are arguably easier too
try fo2 hl5 regular champs then try with em3. youll learn to not like the cart very much. or the repeated super sonic charges very much lol
iron oyster
try fo2 hl5 regular champs then try with em3. youll learn to not like the cart v...
Ik i was just saying very low heat
short glen
Hadn't played Hades in 9 months, and then beat 17, 18, 19, and 20 heat with Arthur. Apparently Arthur really is my ideal weapon lmao. Should I go for 32 or get the other weapons to 20?
reef zodiac
Whichever you think would be more fun for you
I’m still convinced that every Arthur fan is just a Hestia main who doesn’t know they’re a Hestia main
Same with Chiron fans
slim geyser
honestly fair
brisk trail
Hadn't played Hades in 9 months, and then beat 17, 18, 19, and 20 heat with Arth...
do 40 with arthur
short glen
I’m still convinced that every Arthur fan is just a Hestia main who doesn’t know...
I have the overwhelming feeling I don't have the mindset for hestia. Mostly because I cannot remember to use things like that one ares boon that activates on kill or the Achilles spear thing correctly
brisk trail
just play arthur forever haha
reef zodiac
I have the overwhelming feeling I don't have the mindset for hestia. Mostly beca...
Don’t bother with that ares boon
I mean it’s pretty good but not really crucial
short glen
I never look for it. Sometimes that's just the boon least likely to hinder the run
thick root
Goddamn the fated persuasion upgrades are expensive af
reef zodiac
If you’re learning Hestia, start by just doing reload -> shoot -> repeat
thick root
How the hell do I get so much darkness (rhetorical, of course by playing more)
brisk trail
by playing the game
reef zodiac
Then try to integrate dashing to cancel the reload
Then try to integrate specials between every other reload
And casts
And dash strikes
The possibilities are endless
brisk trail
and then abandon run and switch to arthur
brisk trail
arthur is good
reef zodiac
Define good
reef zodiac
The speedrun builds of Arthur don’t even play the aspect, they just use cast builds
It’s also arguably the single worst 51+ heat aspect in the entire game
short glen
Aphrodite...
That's indeed what I do lmao. Aphro attack stronk on Arthur. Honestly the fact Arthur is slow is good because it makes it harder for brain to go "hahaha dash strike forever" directly into the wall
brisk trail
forget speedrunning and aside from 50+ it works fine
leaden birch
I need one more hammer to complete the spear prophecy
but I'm not getting chain skewer at all
reef zodiac
forget speedrunning and aside from 50+ it works fine
Yes but literally what doesn’t
short glen
Still can't get myself to stop dashing into lava but not dashing into walls thinking I'm hitting an enemy is improvement
brisk trail
so you're suggesting everything isn't good then?
reef zodiac
If you disregard the things that require and aspect to be good, then every aspect seems like it’s good
reef zodiac
so you're suggesting everything isn't good then?
I’m saying not everything can be good
Obviously depends on your definition of good
leaden birch
Still can't get myself to stop dashing into lava but not dashing into walls thin...
I love burning to death by accidentally stepping into magma over and over
thick root
If everything's good then nothing is
brisk trail
arthur is good, just because it isn't the best doesn't make it not good
short glen
I define good as "I enjoy using it"
leaden birch
I define good as "I enjoy using it"
Same
reef zodiac
But under my definition, it needs to be not a bad option in at least one situation where it’s better than other options
brisk trail
also it's rly easy to use
void vigil
I don't remember seeing it
you cant get it with exploding launcher, aspect of achilles, or guan yu. that might be why
leaden birch
you cant get it with exploding launcher, aspect of achilles, or guan yu. that mi...
OH
YOU CAN'T GET IT WITH ACHILLES
💀
short glen
I tried using Eris once and it didn't go well. Brain reverted back into monkey mode and just spammed dash and stuff
reef zodiac
I tried using Eris once and it didn't go well. Brain reverted back into monkey m...
Isn’t that how you’re supposed to play Eris
It’s the easiest speedrun aspect for a reason
short glen
I mean probably, but I was going into walls more often than not
reef zodiac
Well yeah you gotta do it in the direction of enemies
thick root
I've been spending all my titan blood into chiron and no other aspect of any weapon, wish I could get than returned lol
short glen
You'd think that would be easy to remember but I seem to struggle with that part
brisk trail
just use arthur, doesn't need any blood to be good
short glen
Exactly
thick root
I'm 2 levels away from chiron max so I'll just do that since it'd be better than any other level 1 or 2 aspect
thick root
just use arthur, doesn't need any blood to be good
Ooo
brisk trail
I will forever be an arthur simp
thick root
Beowulf..?
short glen
Shield
reef zodiac
Hidden shield
thick root
Oh shielf
reef zodiac
Arguably best aspect in the game
thick root
I thought chaos was good for shield
short glen
Has like a million bugs that all work in your favor
reef zodiac
Extremely strong in general
reef zodiac
Has like a million bugs that all work in your favor
Yeah but that’s not the only reason it’s good
leaden birch
wait
I'm assuming modded probably lets you add levels and just spawn in random boons right
thick root
I was going to invest all blood in chaos shield next... Should i go beowulf instead?
reef zodiac
My 52 heat Beo run was pretty much only impacted by the harmful bugs (casts popping out taking i-frames for example) and none of the positive ones
Doesn’t need bugs to be good
leaden birch
I'm assuming modded probably lets you add levels and just spawn in random boons ...
in that case the fists and Hermes' strike with like a crazy level sounds wild
short glen
I tried using it a couple times and it went poorly. Not because of any particular reason I just got really poor RNG and wasn't good enough at the game at the time to work with terrible boons
reef zodiac
I was going to invest all blood in chaos shield next... Should i go beowulf inst...
Yes, chaos sucks very hard
leaden birch
chaos isn't good at all
brisk trail
big suck
reef zodiac
Chaos is by far the worst shield
leaden birch
go for beowulf
reef zodiac
Every other shield is actually very good
leaden birch
aspect of Zeus is fine but
brisk trail
try zeus
reef zodiac
But Chaos is bad
leaden birch
Beowulf.
short glen
Go Zeus shield
reef zodiac
Zeus is super good too
leaden birch
and handsome
thick root
Hmm do I go beowulf or hestia then... I think i won't go hestia cus I want to use the cluster bombs build more
reef zodiac
Both are fantastic
brisk trail
go arthur
reef zodiac
Beo and Hestia are my top two favorites
short glen
Go Gilgamesh
reef zodiac
They’re both amazing for heat and speedrunning
leaden birch
Go Gilgamesh
I hate gilgamesh
reef zodiac
Honestly can’t go wrong
reef zodiac
Yeah it’s garbage
thick root
What's the best aspect at lower levels? I have 4 blood at hand
short glen
It's not good but I enjoy it
leaden birch
What's the best aspect at *lower* levels? I have 4 blood at hand
uhhhh
reef zodiac
All are good, but imo Hestia is quite busted
thick root
Hestia level 1?
reef zodiac
You can just one-shot everything form far away
leaden birch
wait what's hestia again
reef zodiac
Oh nvm
leaden birch
the reload power shot right
reef zodiac
Hestia lvl1 is poopy
leaden birch
I find Eris more useful and consistent really
reef zodiac
the reload power shot right
Yes
reef zodiac
I find Eris more useful and consistent really
Hestia is a pillar of consistency
thick root
How's beowulf at lower levels?
reef zodiac
Literally works great with a single boon
reef zodiac
How's beowulf at lower levels?
Great
brisk trail
What's the best aspect at *lower* levels? I have 4 blood at hand
arthur
reef zodiac
Bro we get it you like Arthur
reef zodiac
More useful
Eh idk
brisk trail
it's true tho
short glen
I second Arthur
thick root
Hmm level 1 beowulf or Arthur
leaden birch
You can try beowulf idk
brisk trail
why not try both
reef zodiac
Easily sniping enemies for 500+ from literally across the entire screen with only two boons is so busted. Hestia 
thick root
Blood is such a luxury and precious
brisk trail
there's enough blood in the game for everything
short glen
Easily sniping enemies for 500+ from *literally* across the entire screen with o...
Excuse me how do you
reef zodiac
Whenever I have to make a new file, I do all my bounties with Hestia because I can turn the brain off and watch YouTube
thick root
I'm not good enough to do a finishing run with every weapon lol making it hard to get blood
reef zodiac
Excuse me how do you
Heartbreak Strike with either a chaos lunge/strike or Hunter dash
brisk trail
leaden birch
Ok since I'm gonna do another spear aspect when I can to get the chain skewer uhhh
Is aspect of Zagreus better or
Hades
brisk trail
zag spear is not gud
reef zodiac
zag spear is not gud
Neither is Hades though
reef zodiac
I prefer Zag over Hades but Hades is better
brisk trail
leaden birch
So Hades is probably more likely to see it
Alr good
reef zodiac
I hate Hades with a passion
leaden birch
After that the only prophecy I'll have left is
The rail
And then I'll officially be done with 100%-ing the game
brisk trail
pancakes favourite weapon
leaden birch
no, I'm not getting the third skelly sculpture
reef zodiac
Rail and shield are my favorites
brisk trail
not 100% until you do 32
brisk trail
just do it with hestia ez mode
reef zodiac
TRUE
leaden birch
Technically I already sorta did 100% since
reef zodiac
Literally true