the one i had everything in
#h1-discussion
remote void
So quick question
Didn't there used to be links to servers for modding and speedrunning Hades?
quaint wind
@remote void #self-promotion pins
remote void
Oh okay
fossil gyro
i deleted 30+ hours of progress and now im pissed
chrome wharf
tech fixes/support might have help if you're on PC
fossil gyro
wait i can get my file back?
chrome wharf
in some circumstances you can, check there for details
fossil gyro
where is it
chrome wharf
dusky hearth
chrome wharf
look at the pins first, if it doesn't work make a post there
fossil gyro
ok
deft python
Didn't there used to be links to servers for modding and speedrunning Hades?
Still are
remote void
Yeah I figured it out
feral belfry
tries a speed run: gets four sacked and zero free rooms š„²
chrome wharf
That's the desire sensor for you
feral belfry
oak ibex
I missed the "dog" part of the sentence and my brain just went "Darren Korb growling as Cerberus"
Darren, if you see this, I am sorry
slim geyser
PLS-
oak ibex
My brain goes too fast most of the time, and when it comes to reading, it has the tendency to misread and/or skip words and just...yeah, stuff like that is common ;-;
fossil gyro
so i sent supergiant support an email
valid cipher
So hard mode on the furry fight is something else.
I didn't take me down, but man that was chaotic.
mint ember
in the middle of a run not too focused on speed
feral belfry
wait until you do hard mode bull and other guy
mint ember
got the lightning rod boon and during lernie fight i lost one of my casts
ends up it was behind boss beating his ass
so i just let it do the rest of the dmg lmao
feral belfry
lighting rod is one of my fav duo boons if you're not doing a cast build
craggy verge
damn, Rail with Artemis Hazard Bomb has some juicy crits š
mint ember
pray for splitting bolt
smoky rune
hey i have a question who is your prefer and you why shield , arrow or sword
I'm undecided between them
mint ember
thats all i want now
sour isle
damn, Rail with Artemis Hazard Bomb has some juicy crits š
I tried that b4 and its the closest ive ever gotten to beating hades so far (he only had a 3rd of his health left!!!)
mint ember
of the 3 i use stygius, the sword, the most
it has the most playstyle diversity i think?
sour isle
1400 dmg from rail special is insane
runic parrot
been getting the right boons lately, hopefully my luck doesnt run out during a run where im lucky with free rooms
craggy verge
hey i have a question who is your prefer and you why shield , arrow or sword
...
I like Shield and Bow a lot
I find Shield easier though
no idea how to play sword lol
craggy verge
I tried that b4 and its the closest ive ever gotten to beating hades so far (he ...
ooof that sucks
craggy verge
Shield cos it's really safe and versatile
Bow cos its pretty technical and long range pew pew
humble lotus
Is there a way to see if a boon is possible to show up with another boon?
Like if 2 non main boons are going to conflict
Namely can i have both scintilating feast abd ice wine
slim geyser
bow always feels slow to me
slim geyser
i only have chiron unlocked rn
humble lotus
And building for dionysus's legendary boon
slim geyser
im so used to just dash striking that its p hard to get used to bow
twin thistle
well hera doesnt need any upgrades really
red cypress
tbh i dont know if ive ever dash striked on on purpose
twin thistle
unlike chiron
humble lotus
because otherwise volley shot Sucks
Zeus boon volley shot is amazing
twin thistle
its okay ig
red cypress
i remember liking rama the few times ive played it but i cant remember anything
slim geyser
also the fists are annoying to me, im better eith long range
red cypress
oh i liked it because i had doom-on-special which meant doom shared suffering for Everybody
slim geyser
ooh
what does rama do again?
red cypress
attack is wider + heavier but slow
twin thistle
main attack is slower but heavier and special marks enemies wholl take shared attack dmg
red cypress
special is narrower and faster and bounces and applies shared suffering
slim geyser
oh fun
humble lotus
I unlocked ultimate death fog
red cypress
which means u can kill 3 birds with one ouch
slim geyser
beowulf sounds fun so im prob gonna unlock that first (only have guan yu in terms of secret aspects)
red cypress
i like guan yu ngl
humble lotus
Okay so this run i have hera's bow with dionysus cast, dionysus attack, dionysus legendary, ice wine, and scintilating feast all at once
humble lotus
i like guan yu ngl
It is so hard to use imo
red cypress
i dont think its popular but i like self-healing
red cypress
i also liked the dedalus hammer that does something similar
humble lotus
Or the projectile
slim geyser
i like guan yu ngl
i agree i just never use the spear
red cypress
i like how it makes the god gauge go boom
twin thistle
spin builds can be fun with guan yu but takes quite a bit of boons and hammers to be worth it
red cypress
theres nothing i dont have a positive for ngl im just like 'i dont know how good it is, but i like it!'
i am foolish but i am free
humble lotus
Oh yeah i also have double strike and larger aoes on lightning
96% larger aoes on lightning
red cypress
beowulf sounds fun so im prob gonna unlock that first (only have guan yu in term...
what does beowulf do?
humble lotus
what does beowulf do?
Load casts into sheild charge
red cypress
is this good if, like me, u always forget to cast
humble lotus
Imo so far its decent, easily my favorite shield and shield is my favorite weapon, but can be kindof meh
humble lotus
beowulf is pretty rng resistant
I think the oposite
slim geyser
seems p fun so
you talk to chaos for it right
humble lotus
It needs 1 hammer upgrade so badly its annoying
Because if you dont get it it can just screw your run over so badly
twin thistle
It needs 1 hammer upgrade so badly its annoying
what? cshot?
humble lotus
what? cshot?
Yep
red cypress
i like the blade rift shield
if u have it following you and run the edge of lernie's room u can kill off all the extra heads Real Quick
humble lotus
Won
brisk trail
trying Eris for the first time, targeting system triple bomb or peircing?
i feel like i so little damage, even with artemis strike empowered shots only do like 20
is this really viable?
twin thistle
i feel like i so little damage, even with artemis strike empowered shots only do...
well... thats the problem
youre using artemis attack
humble lotus
Like the charged attack
Charged attack?
twin thistle
eris should have zeus attack prioritized
humble lotus
There isnt a charged attack on arthur
twin thistle
then get jolted
arctic marten
Well the slash thing
arctic marten
Do i just not dash?
twin thistle
you can dash
brisk trail
thats sad tho cuz none of them are dmg% so eris boost is wasted
eris just sucks that much?
twin thistle
but you have to do it from the first string
arctic marten
I see
twin thistle
uhhhh eris doesnt suck at all
also no its definitely not wasted
global damage boosts are much better with status effects because youre basically double dipping
humble lotus
Basicaly for arthur you want to constantly be dashing around your aoe and only using the normal string if you have athena attack
brisk trail
eris is global? i thought it was only atk boost
twin thistle
dmg% boosts are additive so eris adds the same amount of damage to your attack whether you have no attack boon or you have an epic aphro attack
no its a global increase
arctic marten
Basicaly for arthur you want to constantly be dashing around your aoe and only u...
Alright thank you!
brisk trail
ok thats pretty decent then
twin thistle
otherwise eris would be terrible because the rail has such low base attack damage
brisk trail
yea thats what i was thinking lol
twin thistle
a lot better than decent
brisk trail
ill just give up this run then
humble lotus
Imo the worst of the hidden aspects is easily gilgamesh
brisk trail
and start with dios keep sake
brisk trail
Imo the worst of the hidden aspects is easily gilgamesh
agreed
humble lotus
Then again
Im someone who only uses the gauntlets for dodge shenanigans
I will say i am also an idiot who uses aspect of guan yu in likely the worst possible way just because its funny
Being lowering my max health by switching off the increased max health effect on the mirror and equiping the butterfly and just focusing on being an insane glass canon
brisk trail
ok thats pretty decent then
ok yea with this attack speed zues strike is op af even without eris, and eris being global makes that even more insane
feral belfry
i only have chiron unlocked rn
Hidden bow is the best weapon 
fast willow
eris just sucks that much?
gray apex
Lmao
brisk trail
i thought it was and attack increase rather than a global one
gray apex
Yea itās Global so it applies to everything which makes it crazy strong
brisk trail
yea
what i meant to say was exigraphs regular attacks are that bad
i almost always use hestia if using gun at all so i never payed attention to them
gray apex
The base attack damage is quite low so you usually put some flat damage on it, ideally Zeus rather than trying to make it stronger with Aphro Arty or any % boost
brisk trail
yea
gray apex
high island
Hestia and Rama pretty much are the most popular aspects for boonless.
cedar olive
So close!!
halcyon girder
Is Daedalus hammer counts as a boon?
ocean niche
yes and no, it cant be increased or upgraded in rarity but it does show with all your other boons
gray apex
They are legal for boonless runs
And they are the best way to scale your damage on most aspects
A boonless attempt with no hammers would be pain
halcyon girder
Okay get hammers and only pick 3 boons don't go above
runic parrot
i got to dad with boonless hammerless mirrorless a few days ago
pitiful damage
worst thing is i was on arthur so it was also slow
halcyon girder
Arthur sword is good does alot of damage but slow
It can reach 200 damage sometimes
runic parrot
yeah i just spammed swings and thrusts rly
brisk trail
I'm close to completing the harsh conditions prophecy
It's just so rough bc it removes the mirror upgrades and certain boons you receive
oh yea that prophecy was fun trying out all the different conditions
pretty much all prophecies were fun
ur making me want to start a new save lol
@brisk trail DO IT
i want to start a new save after i 100% it the first time
cyan jolt
Patroclus carries my runs lol
cyan jolt
i want to start a new save after i 100% it the first time
Good luck
It will take a long time
brisk quiver
when playing hera bow should i rebind my cast to a trigger button similarly to beowulf? š¤
gray apex
Yes
south sapphire
hades
brisk trail
how do i get this ?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/916701194615939073/929730545288630302/unknown.png
brisk trail
ohh so you cant upgrade this room ?
gray apex
np
last veldt
Not really the brightest of swords:
https://youtu.be/Y6MF3n6cDf8
last veldt
Did you get flurry jab? That's one of the better ways to make spear good.
sour isle
Did you get flurry jab? That's one of the better ways to make spear good.
nah
achilles aspect
and endlessly buffed attack
and athena boons
i got legendary shield boon
and dash boon
and kept grabbing athena boons
last veldt
Oh okay. Achilles good for cast builds too once fully unlocked.
sour isle
i barely even used casts tho
last veldt
Fair. Once you have a good attack it can be better to just focus on that.
runic parrot
i feel like most players go through that phase tbh
not using casts i mean
youll find out sooner or later that they can rack up a lot of damage later on
sour isle
im so burned out man
playing every day for 10 days straight
mightve sacrificed too much free time
sour isle
and kept grabbing athena boons
oh also the hermes extra dash boon
last veldt
So, while doing a Beo Flood Flair run I picked up charged shot. Not it's offering Passion Flare instead. 72 -> 112 damage. I was going to get Flood Flair for razor shoals and or sea storm, but should I switch?
None of the other boons are worth much and it's a trial, so no duo chance
And getting rid of Poseidon means no sweet nectar chance
Oh but I already got wave pounding, so I think I'll keep Poseidon!
lone kernel
Oh but I already got wave pounding, so I think I'll keep Poseidon!
You probably want to keep Poseidon and shoot for Artemis and mirage shot
gray apex
If youāre playing Flood Flare you should go for Mirage shot
gray apex
Sea Storm isnāt nearly as good
lone kernel
On beo only
lone kernel
Yeah - aphro cast on beo also works, but that wants Demeter is best case scenario (snow burst/privileged status)
fast willow
its rare to get a duo in tartarus
high island
Avoid unlocking other Duo and Legendary Boons than the ones you want.
That's probably the most important part.
lone kernel
If youāre running a build that relies on a duo (ME, mirage on beo, homing meme beams, you get the idea) run Gods Legacy from mirror
high island
Merciful End builds are still better with Gods' Pride typically.
Doom rarity matters a lot, and you want good rarity from Lord Hermes.
lone kernel
cries in never gets ME
high island
Well, that's the life you chose. 
last veldt
Well, I didn't get mirage shot, but Aphrodite gave me her legendary, which is basically as good
high island
Better. 
lone kernel
Well, that's the life you chose. <:zfiestWOT:911680878533541888>
RNJesus chose it
also i dont often go for it tbf. aight lets start up a ME run
devout peak
RNJesus chose it
lone kernel
once i got both ME and crystal clarity
high island
also i dont often go for it tbf. aight lets start up a ME run
And there you go choosing that life once again.
lone kernel
š
red cypress
lernie killed me for the first time because my cat was like 'why are you paying attention to this and not to ME'
last veldt
Cat's got a point
high island
Indeed.
And Lernie also gets a point for that flawless victory.
Great comeback, Lernie.
craggy verge
Merciful End's really good š
oooh I unlocked my first companion assist 
which ones are good
chrome wharf
Meg, Achilles, Dusa
hearty mural
Demeter legendary works agains bosses !?!?
chrome wharf
Yeah
hearty mural
Broken
chrome wharf
Meg, Achilles, Dusa
Than's is also good but needs some setup
hearty mural
Ok not really but I was surprised to see hades almost dead and then be actually dead
chrome wharf
Hades Winter Harvest: needs 3 Demeter boons to start showing up, target needs to be chilled
Dead cells No Mercy: just pick it up at the next connecting room
fast willow
i cant believe nobody mentioned the most OP companion
brisk trail
hey guys im trying to use Touch of Styx but idk how it works i mean the stubborn defiance gets redone each time i enter a new room
and i read the wiki and im still confused
hearty mural
Touch of Styx means when stubborn defiance activated it heals more
I think the item lasts 15 encounters but that isnāt 15 uses of stubborn if you donāt use it every room
hearty mural
The well of Charon while having stubborn activated
winter pollen
hi. are the sfx for this game somewhere so I can steal repurpose them?
not in a different game or smthn
brisk trail
The well of Charon while having stubborn activated
i mean i tried that but i never found it
winter pollen
fair
brisk trail
is there any way i can guarantee a find
strong ridge
play many
brisk trail
damn it
hearty mural
Itās just luck as with most things, if it makes you feel better I used stubborn once just to get that item and didnāt
brisk trail
aaand I got the touch of Styx dark but it didn't complete the prophecy
strong ridge
the sd one right
devout terrace
aaand I got the touch of Styx dark but it didn't complete the prophecy
because thats from patty
not charon's well
brisk trail
yeah im trying to get it from charons well
sullen holly
I reinstalled Hades after completing a while ago. But it downloaded a uncompleted profile. Can I select which one to download and if so how?
lament river
Do you recommend buying Hades Switch physical?
hearty mural
I think itās more expensive and comes with the soundtrack so if yoy want those things yes. Other things to note is physical cartridge management, and storage space left on your switch
lone kernel
Do you recommend buying Hades Switch physical?
it's really just personal preference - soundtrack is cool but is also on spotify so up to you. worth noting that i needed to move it to console memory off my SD card because it started getting a bit janky around run 250, but that fixed the issues i was having
so maybe cartridge would prevent that too
im not really sure how it works, like from what i understand playstation and xbox CDs are little more than insert disc to download game things but i think it may use less memory if u have a cartridge
lament river
Thanks!!!
brisk trail
what are the playstyle differences between Hera and Beowulf
lone kernel
what are the playstyle differences between Hera and Beowulf
Beo cast stones donāt get embedded, and beo is a shield so your defensive options are way better
whereas hera you can play it as zag bow with a super attack with a cool down for all intents and purposes
And mirage shot is scuffed on beo and rather than 30p buff itās 100p buff to cast, which I donāt think is the case on hera but someone can confirm that. The ātopā hera loadout is aphro cast with snow burst for privileged status and the biggest damage cast you can get is aphro and hera makes the short range piece irrelevant. For beowulf, itās flood shot into Artemis because until you are in AP territory (approval process on the pact) thereās nothing stronger than the fastest mirage you can get on beo pretty much. They also both are very fun using Stygian soul with Dionysus cast, but Iāll leave it at that for now so I donāt overwhelm ya with info
devout terrace
Trippy flsre hera also gets the mirage bug
Wait
WHAT
I dont remember this at all
The second part I know about
brisk trail
yeah im trying to get it from charons well
just got Touch of Styx and the prophecy is done
mint coral
I dont remember this at all
Flare is flare unless thunder flare
brisk trail
And mirage shot is scuffed on beo and rather than 30p buff itās 100p buff to cas...
The info wasnt overwhelming thanks for explaining all that.
thats a bit dissapointing that hera its basically a worse version but i still wanna try it a couple times so ill go for the build you suggested
raw herald
Itās not so bad, crush shot has a much higher base damage than flood flare
twin thistle
hera also feels a lot nicer to play before you get cshot
brisk trail
beowulf also seems more fun cuz ur ramming into them instead of keeping ur distance lol
beowulf was a chad he fought a dragon in his myth lol
gray apex
Well you don't specifically keep your distance with Hera
If an enemy is close you don't try to back off
But you have more reach overall
twin thistle
https://imgur.com/a/BRhCR5S you know i realized that you can also load casts you collect during your rush with beo
lone kernel
The info wasnt overwhelming thanks for explaining all that.
thats a bit dissapo...
Beowulf is definitely higher ceiling, but hera 32 is totally doable if thatās your goal
twin thistle
not just load mid rush
lone kernel
Hera falls apart at high heat where beo doesnāt
twin thistle
hera 50 zag bow strats
mint coral
bad zag bow gaming
gray apex
Just get a cast and reset for snow burst
and maybe quick reload
and maybe 5 poms
and a good hammer
then try not to die
twin thistle
lone kernel
easy game
mint coral
I didnt know the window was that big
?
craggy verge
Can you get Cluster Bomb and the Giant bomb?
craggy verge
ooof
Idk it takes some getting used to the reload
but once you got it its really good š
A bit crappy in Styx though
lone kernel
the adamant rail is the worst weapon
If you mean the aspect of hestia
I agree with you lol
twin thistle
craggy verge
Hestia looks ok, kinda like a bow now
twin thistle
meanwhile hestia: one of the easiest weapons to do 50 heat with
also 3/4 rails 60 heat
mint coral
zag rail missing?
twin thistle
yeah
raw herald
At this rate every aspect will have 60 heat
craggy verge
twin thistle
craggy verge
Idk bout high heat but guns pretty fun
gray apex
Idk about that lol
twin thistle
gilga tho
gray apex
Idk what Gilga has going for it
brisk trail
no ones beat 60 heat with zag gun?
gray apex
Nope
raw herald
If they do I bet itās with hazard bomb
gray apex
Yea probably
twin thistle
wait that dem 60 literally yesterday
gray apex
Yup
twin thistle
damue moment
raw herald
Plays fists like no fist player ever
brisk trail
where do u find if its been done on 60 or not
raw herald
High heat leaderboard pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies
twin thistle
and up to date with the fists 60
brisk trail
what does PL do?
raw herald
Yeah it is
raw herald
what does PL do?
Removes the protective bubble you get when you take burst damage
So burst damage is a lot more dangerous
gray apex
I should submit something to that sheet
signal aspen
me too
twin thistle
wait... so now damue has 5/6 weapons 60+ heat
raw herald
Yep
gray apex
Yea
raw herald
Spear next
twin thistle
spear worse weapon confirmed
gray apex
brisk trail
lol no iframes?
green quest
game crashes after i win
i do another run
die horribly
meg says something about the pact, and how i shouldnt dare to up the thingy which buffs bosses
i up the thingy which buffs bosses expecting special dialogue
i dont get special dialogue
i dont expect to win
(the game still hasnt counted the previous win so i didnt get titan blood from hades with shield)
I WIN
i still dont have the 0 heat titan blood from hades with shield
WHY
gray apex
How do you submit to the sheet
twin thistle
you still get a lot of iframes from the usual sources
brisk trail
whats the scariest attack with PL?
gray apex
an ely witch
brisk trail
Hades laser?
gray apex
and that
twin thistle
gray apex
you can get combod by too many things
twin thistle
when you hug dad then realize youre an inch too far away and lose half your health from lasers
gray apex
Imagine hugging that
twin thistle
dont worry you still have iframes from losing your sd
twin thistle
i still dont know how i didnt die bringing earring into em4 dad without even patty or extra athena dds
aint there a modded section
gray apex
Doesnt seem like it
signal aspen
smh imagine playing modded
gray apex
imagine playing reset simulator
signal aspen
gray apex
Time to do a casual 50
craggy verge
Cos poisons
gray apex
gray apex
Whats your fav call?
zeuwus probably
signal aspen
ares is my favorite
twin thistle
i may or may not crutch on athena call for em4
craggy verge
Ares is cool too
gray apex
Thereās a modded leaderboard
I meant on the sheet
raw herald
Not on that sheet, itās a seperate leaderboard
craggy verge
I don like Poseidons, hard to control and you knock enemies away 
raw herald
Probably pinned somewhere on speedchord
brisk trail
Am I imagining things or did my gane just update..
craggy verge
Honestly feel like lotsa times I don wanna take Poseidon lol
gray apex
Am I imagining things or did my gane just update..
new dlc
craggy verge
Poseidon attack š
raw herald
Poseidon makes up for it with his dash flare and special
raw herald
Even if his attack is awful and his call is meh
brisk trail
Aspect of Red
craggy verge
Yea his Dash is good
raw herald
Best dash in the game bar none
craggy verge
His and Athenas are really š
versed mason
his call is fun to use but usually I'd rather have something else
but yeah dash and flare š³ and fishing
craggy verge
I usually go for Athenas dash cos block stuff
twin thistle
https://imgur.com/a/U31MaCZ athena call my beloved
raw herald
op
craggy verge
š
raw herald
Charged shot em4 youāre a mad man
twin thistle
also hl5 36 dmg spear throw
twin thistle
Charged shot em4 youāre a mad man
earring
raw herald
Oh my
twin thistle
may or may not have been unintentional
devout terrace
Based earring
versed mason
tru
devout terrace
I did cshot with 1 dash once
Meanwhile zagshield
gray apex
That moment when you gotta swap to modded to toggle hellmode then you gotta swap to unmodded and realize you didnt save so you have to swap again
craggy verge
raw herald
That moment when you gotta swap to modded to toggle hellmode then you gotta swap...
Me forgetting to switch and starting a speedrun with 13 heat
gray apex
"damn that room took me 2 minutes"
feral belfry
got 174 health with no DD left at dad on my 32 heat fist run, send me clutch vibes
high island
Punch him up good.
gleaming thistle
ok whats up with keepsakes
why does it feel like it's not tracking my encounters correctly
feral belfry
Punch him up good.
ran out of time š„²
I need tips on how to play the fists better
brisk quiver
punch more
brisk trail
lol i got curse of drowing and mirage shot in the same offering
if only i could take both then my cast would go from 1 shot to 6 lol
feral belfry
How do seeded runs work? I had a legendary attack at the start of my run but when I died I did "give up" so i could try again with the same start, only now it's rare instead of legendary?
twin thistle
uh wdym legendary attack
epic you mean
well anyways did you change something like the pact or mirror or keepsake
usually the rarities are the same
feral belfry
epic sorry
Purple, now it's blue
I may have changed the pact?
Does that effect it?
All the selections are the same just the rarity changed
twin thistle
well there are a lot of random things you can accidentally do that affect the rng
feral belfry
So you can change the seed then without having to die?
twin thistle
uh something something waiting for shades to move around idk im not a router
feral belfry
hm
brisk trail
are mini-boss chambers in styx less likely/unable to have the sack inside of them?
gray apex
Does that effect it?
Have you changed your mirror (Olympian Favor/ God's Pride) or your keepsake
feral belfry
nope
gray apex
are mini-boss chambers in styx less likely/unable to have the sack inside of the...
Nope
narrow cliff
I wish there was a mode where you could try out different boon/weapon combos without needing to find them in a run or use titan blood
gray apex
All same odds
brisk trail
ok
narrow cliff
I saw in #hades-faq you are able to transfer save data between pc and switch. if i take my data and put it on the swich and play it on either pc or switch will it update in real time?
high island
#h1-tech-support should be able to answer questions like that.
calm zenith
Can confirm that smashing pots, changing some mirror stuff and Pact stuff, will change rng
Smashing pots in chamber 1 before you collect the boon
It basically sets following stuff to the next sequence
Not everything necessarily but it might turn double boons into boon and heart, or boon and heart into double boons
That kinda rng stuff
brisk trail
does maimed count as a debuff for priv status?
gray apex
Nope
runic parrot
the only ones that do count are the ones you get from boons
runic parrot
doomed, marked, exposed, hangover, chilled, jolted, and ruptured
i seem to have forgotten one
oh well, surely its not one of the best status effects
brisk trail
weakened
runic parrot
aphrodite who?
brisk trail
aphrodeez nuts
calm zenith
Marked has to be the best
It's not a mass application curse but a good Mark is very good
brisk trail
doomed, marked, exposed, hangover, chilled, jolted, and ruptured
there is 1 imposter among us
calm zenith
It's like the best and worst at the same time. Maybe Exposed is the worst.
brisk trail
cuz it should be hungover lol
brisk trail
i killed skelly in under 3 seconds
calm zenith
It isnt that much dmg
brisk trail
that should be a speed run catagory
calm zenith
Like gilgamesh itself isnt even bad. It's the best option for dash damage.
signal aspen
But it is bad
calm zenith
If you are doing empty dashes, the shorter length and stuff matters less
Its fine
In terms of fists
None of them do great high heat as far as I know
signal aspen
Well dem cleared 60 heat recently
brisk trail
i think zag with plume would do pretty well in high heat
signal aspen
But generally it isn't that good at high heat
gray apex
i think zag with plume would do pretty well in high heat
It would time out pretty well yea
signal aspen
Drink it
runic parrot
yum
gray apex
tasty
chrome wharf
or make blood tofu
karmic pond
Put it in the freezer and use it as a projectile against Hades
craggy verge
doomed, marked, exposed, hangover, chilled, jolted, and ruptured
Is Decay one?
craggy verge
I see š§
mossy adder
So now that I got my first win, what's next? Turn up the heat, so to speak? Or do y'all recommend I first finish up farming my mirror and such
craggy verge
You need to do like 10 clears to finish the main story š
But yea heat for bounties is what I did
to farm.up more blood and such
mossy adder
So 9 more clears, and -then- do farming and then heat?
craggy verge
Sure can do heat 1s to reset rewards and such
basically every weapon has its own heat gauge so as long as its maxed out you get new rewards each run
calm zenith
Just do clears on other weapons imo
craggy verge
And heat 1 isnt much harder than heat 0 imo
craggy verge
And help Achilles š
calm zenith
Dont difficulty gate the story content
Everyone
You dont need to do 10 heat to do it
craggy verge
Im jus saying what I did
craggy verge
mostly heat 1-2 for diff weapons
cos id do a clear with heat 1 gun, then do heat 2 gun or so
craggy verge
I never repeated a heat level that I already got all rewards anyways for a particular weapon
I didnt like gun but that special is fun
For me what I dont get is sword
It feels pretty slow
craggy verge
š
raw herald
And get double edge hammer
craggy verge
Double Edge
raw herald
Itās not particularly safe but itās the best way to get damage out of the sword
craggy verge
I see
Any melee thas not just hold down M1 and profit stumps me
Well Shield but M1 also works with that
calm zenith
Oddly I find the fastest sword to be Arthur
Its probably less dps than nemesis played well with double edge, but its solid and consistent
raw herald
I think the sword WR is Poseidon but the fastest sword is nemesis
calm zenith
Not so hammer reliant
hearty mural
Do I need to be wielding aegis to get chaos to give me the hidden aspect? Itās the last one I need
hearty mural
Oddly I find the fastest sword to be Arthur
it swings the slowest so no
calm zenith
200 base damage and combo memory
craggy verge
I think the sword WR is Poseidon but the fastest sword is nemesis
Whats WR
craggy verge
ohhh
craggy verge
is there a way to do a Revenge build? š
mossy adder
I actually came here because there is gonna be a Hades race on GDQ next saturday
I really wanted to watch it, but hadn't played this yet so I wanted to clear the game at least once before
gray apex
Pog gdq newcomers
mossy adder
I'm expecting a big influx on this server this weekend :p
Right now they're doing Metal Gear Solid while blindfolded. Stuff just nuts.
gray apex
Hopefully, we are expecting some on the hades speedrunning discord aswell
mossy adder
How different are speedruns from casual play?
raw herald
In terms of game breaking skips, the same
But they are so much faster
First time I watched speedruns I was boggled
mossy adder
I am looking forward to it š
raw herald
Both runners in the race are really good
mossy adder
I am very much looking forward to it.
gray apex
Also the runs being modded will add consistency
raw herald
Same, Iām not sure what time itās at but Iām watching it live
gray apex
So there should be some spicy times
raw herald
Even though Iām right in the thick of exams
gray apex
Cant miss out on the action
devout terrace
Both runners in the race are really good
hoping for croven tier boons and not cgull tier rooms
š
raw herald
Vorime tier rooms and not Vorime tier boons
hearty mural
I just realized the flourish icon isnāt a snake shooting a laser
mossy adder
It isn't? D:
raw herald
Itās an uppercut
mossy adder
It is?!
brisk trail
i hate the sus
wary mural
yes so anoying cowering with his shield
brisk trail
ive died more times to them than to hades
2nd least favorite is alecto and 3rd is melee variant lernie
mossy adder
I hated theseus but then I learned to save a Call for him
strange horizon
I only ever use my summons for him
brisk trail
i use my summons mainly for lernie and the sus cuz it can multihit
esp when low bcz the shady healing can save a dd sometimes
wary mural
lernie is kinda ez tho
craggy verge
i call theseus and asterius seperate
I hate the Heroes fight
What does God Mode do?
What does Tougher mean
subtle mason
my least favorite is em3 sus but its also somewhat given to minotaur
literally on my last run i lost 2 death defiances to heroes but i lost none to hades that run
wary mural
thats more a miny boss the vermin dad i totally accept
runic parrot
the vermin sucks when you have tidal dash and doing a melee wep
mint coral
What does God Mode do? <:thanthink:669246004142538753>
20% dmg resistanxe, goes by 2% each death
Caps at 80%
last veldt
If you have Razor Shoals on tidal dash the tiny Vernon will do itself a lot of damage by running around everywhere.
silent siren
When Zagreus says ānot authorizedā when trying to add em4 when itās not unlocked and doesnāt indicate that itās maxed out for that setting. The little touches like that make this game awesome
brisk trail
i had a stroke trying to read that
scarlet horizon
hello any way to have PS layout on pc with a PS5 controller?
scarlet horizon
you are indeed very helpful need more ppl like you in the world
scarlet horizon
i have the program DS4 windows which support ds5 but for some reason it still show xbox
feral belfry
are you playing in steam
scarlet horizon
yep im trying different controller option atm
somber spoke
what do you guys think about Sea Storm duo boon?
feral belfry
It's good
scarlet horizon
i'll check tyy
urban wasp
sea storm is so good there are builds around it, i actually won my first run thanks to that
scarlet horizon
ok finally got it working tyy
somber spoke
sea storm is so good there are builds around it, i actually won my first run tha...
yeah I asked that because I just had my best run with it
chrome wharf
Any build that uses Poseidon for damage would like it
silent siren
I am very confusedā¦ I thought you had to do heat in order and collect all previous bountiesā¦? On heat 0 for shield I havenāt gotten any of the bounties but for heat 1 Iāve gotten 3? I can go back to heat 0 and collect those easy bounties?
brisk trail
you dont need to beat heat 0 to get heat 1 so thats a rare case, yes you can collect those bounties by disabling all conditions
silent siren
Thanks
twin thistle
I am very confusedā¦ I thought you had to do heat in order and collect all previo...
yeah 0 heat is a special case though that you have to do heat in order is a bit incorrect since you can just do nothing but 20 heat and collect all previous bounties anyway
mossy adder
Wow. Continuing from the new-player chat, I'm doing some quick googling for stygian vs infernal
Man the internal is both divided and fiercely opinionated about the topic.
Everyone either says Stygian is the go-to and Infernal is kinda niche, or that Infernal is the go-to and Stygian sucks.
mint coral
i used stygian a lot cause didnt touch casts, now i can live without 3 casts lol
is comfy
twin thistle
its pretty much just
non cast build: doesnt matter
cast build: stygian if lingering cast and infernal for normal casts
mossy adder
Myeah, I think I got a good feel on what's what now. I'm just amazed by how strongly invested people are on this particular topic.
silent siren
Whatās a good keepsake to use once Iāve gotten the two gods I want and am confident that I wonāt need skelly in elysium?
twin thistle
err coin purse ig egg
urban wasp
acorn is the safe choice i assume
runic parrot
coin purse is alright
silent siren
acorn is the safe choice i assume
How many hits does it protect from at max level?
runic parrot
5
twin thistle
5
silent siren
Thatās not that bad.
runic parrot
i dont think its all that for elysium, but if you are having a hard time with the champions it's fine
silent siren
I usually have a hard time with theseus because of his shield and getting around it
twin thistle
its more relevant at higher heats though still really good regardless
brisk trail
pre-styx i like taking persephone when i dont have anything specifc in mind
dusa keepsake is pretty good too
but its not great if ur running low on TD
twin thistle
tbh coin purse and buying some health items with the gold would get you more gold than feather duster
silent siren
Is trove tracker good at all from the well?
twin thistle
if youre farming for darkness and gems
silent siren
tbh coin purse and buying some health items with the gold would get you more gol...
I decided Iād go for coin purse, maybe the extra gold will help buy health that way.
twin thistle
if you get a gold trove youll get some profit
brisk trail
coin purse is OP you should always take it at some point in the run (unless ur doing plume or butterfly) cuz you get to keep the gold
silent siren
Currently I have my 3 death defiances, skelly is unused as well, I have the 10 gold every chamber boon and 400 gold right now. Feel like Iām doing pretty well this run
Level 4 ares special on chaos shield : )
Dashing flight or dread flight for chaos aspect?
twin thistle
dashing
dread flight is terrible
since you cant block or attack while your shield is bouncing around
silent siren
Oh ok
At what point should I be going to the shop if Iām not struggling? If Iām not struggling just save it for styx?
brisk trail
yea save ~1000 so you can buy titans blood/gemstone
i never gotten to saving 1000 coins for styx
what keepsake its best for getting coins?
- start with hypnos keepsake and use golten touch in the mirror
- dont spend anything
- ???
- profit
i kinda forgot golden touch is a thing
thank you :)
passive income baby
im 7ft when i stand on my money
oh yeah there's a hermes boon that give you money as well
might as well do a hoarding slash build while im at it lol
purse and golden touch while going for most of the Tartarus coins will get you 1k very consistantly, dont need to rely on side hustle but its nice to get in aspho
silent siren
1. start with hypnos keepsake and use golten touch in the mirror
2. dont spend a...
- Try to get side hustle as early as possible
Oh they already mentioned it
silent siren
I donāt think so from what I can remember
brisk trail
iirc it can in an erubus gate and im sure ive seen in it in a shop before the fury fight
now that you mention it yeah
he does appear in erebus and shop sometime
thank you uwu
silent siren
Does Rama have to be a high level to be worth it?
Donāt really want to unlock it if itās just going to be bad at level 1
calm zenith
Nah it's fine before max
twin thistle
its quite good at level one
silent siren
Is it fun compared to something like Hera?
calm zenith
I find Rama very fun
twin thistle
killing everything in a room in oneshot is fun
calm zenith
Yeah or dashing around and rapid firing lightning bolts
The special is the best source of mass application
silent siren
What hammers are good?
calm zenith
Very fast, ricocheting arrows shot in a narrow cone
But they do 5 base dmg lol
Twin, triple, chain, point blank
silent siren
killing everything in a room in oneshot is fun
How is that possible?
calm zenith
It applies Shared Suffering
Everything takes damage together if they are tagged by your special
twin thistle
^
calm zenith
Shared Suffering is weaker at lvl 1 but at max it is 60%
silent siren
Okay but donāt you need to hit all the enemies first before that takes effect so itās more like a 2 shot?
twin thistle
ig
twin thistle
but its using your special which is pretty fast
calm zenith
You use stuff like hangover or zeus on special
If you want to just use special, you need relentless volley and Zeus usually
silent siren
Oh so the idea is use the special to apply shared suffering and then use heavy to do mass damage?
calm zenith
Yes
twin thistle
artemis special
calm zenith
Artemis is good. You can get mark
silent siren
Nice thatās really fun lol
calm zenith
Not on special lol
silent siren
Artemis is good. You can get mark
Ahahaha
twin thistle
smh
calm zenith
The shared suffering cant crit, but it will use the crit damage value
white damage/raw damage is shared
On physical hit
silent siren
Is mod talk forbidden here?
twin thistle
nah
calm zenith
On and Artemis dash is good on Rama
silent siren
Wish there was a multiple skelly mod to better test out things like Rama and chaos aspect
calm zenith
Because its ranged and it's slow and heavy, you get lots of dash strike value
calm zenith
And dont need a more melee range dash as much. Athena still works well obviously.
silent siren
you can just summon stuff in the courtyard
Right I forgot about that, I actually have it installed lol
calm zenith
Generally I find dodging with Rama easy enough though
brisk trail
The shared suffering cant crit, but it will use the crit damage value
so it will do 60% of the original crit value?
twin thistle
tidal dash triple shot pointblank rama best build
calm zenith
Yes
brisk trail
holy
calm zenith
You do 1000 damage total from twin or triple + Artemis, you do 600 to everyone with suffering
twin thistle
including the targets you're hitting
mossy adder
Tidal Dash?
calm zenith
Yeah
twin thistle
poseidon
calm zenith
So it's still extra single target damage to use special
mossy adder
Yeah, but how does it help?
twin thistle
twas joke
calm zenith
It also slams everything away from pointblank shots
mossy adder
Still in half time of my runs.
brisk trail
sheeesh
mossy adder
smh my head.
twin thistle
dont actually do this build
silent siren
Whatās a good starting punishment for Rama? Calisthenics?
silent siren
Damage control
Wouldnāt that make it harder to get shared suffering setup?
brisk trail
Whatās a good starting punishment for Rama? Calisthenics?
i run forced overtime and em3
calm zenith
They remove it basically instantly
twin thistle
Whatās a good starting punishment for Rama? Calisthenics?
thats one of the worst one heats for any weapon really
damage control is pretty free with rama
brisk trail
doesnt that also increase boss health as well?
twin thistle
yep
brisk trail
yeeaaa
twin thistle
thats part of why it sucks compared to jury summons
chrome wharf
Yeah the raw boss HP gain with CP is quite a chunk
brisk trail
calisthenic with em4
i need to beat that man
i beat em4 alone but i want to push myself even more
chrome wharf
I've done that a few times on CP1 thanks to hell mode file
silent siren
Dio on special for Rama?
brisk trail
im in to deep to start a hell mode save
brisk trail
Dio on special for Rama?
what about it?
chrome wharf
You're never in too deep to start a hell mode save
silent siren
what about it?
Thatās the usual Rama build?
brisk trail
oh yea
chrome wharf
Try beating it in less tries than your first file
Dio/Zeus/Ares are all good Rama specials
brisk trail
can artemis crit with rama special?
chrome wharf
I started a hell mode file after getting epilogue on my regular, and took less runs to get credits than my first file's first win
twin thistle
yeah but it doesnt hit very hard
brisk trail
dang
brisk trail
I started a hell mode file after getting epilogue on my regular, and took less r...
i might try that when i unlocked all the ranks tbh
chrome wharf
the ranks take a decade and a half tho
twin thistle
brisk trail
https://imgur.com/a/JCuAZcS mep
thats kinda chunky
twin thistle
not really if you compare it to regular rama
brisk trail
not really if you compare it to regular rama <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
tru
i guess its kind of a niche thing
mossy adder
Say, is there some sort of 'builds archive'? Like a place to get inspiration or stuff, just see what madness people came up with
brisk trail
Say, is there some sort of 'builds archive'? Like a place to get inspiration or ...
you can check high heat strategies chat
they usually post it there
south sapphire
how to be as good as gellot help
brisk trail
how to be as good as gellot help
you just play a lot
brisk trail
oh this is a nice website
mossy adder
https://i.imgur.com/EYG4m4d.png
Wow I feel called out
south sapphire
you just play a lot
how can someone be that good in EVERYTHING
brisk trail
how can someone be that good in EVERYTHING
simple
south sapphire
skill
south sapphire
ur name means pineapple
south sapphire
also what first try
beating the game HITLESS first try
south sapphire
GELLOT
void vigil
im pretty sure gellot did not first try the hitless bosses... it was likely a lot of practice
south sapphire
south sapphire
im pretty sure gellot did not first try the hitless bosses... it was likely a lo...
im pretty sure too but
JUST HOW TF
brisk trail
just practice bro
south sapphire
e
void vigil
people in this community have done full hitless runs, with a lot of practice
brisk trail
gellot probably have played solar ash over and over again
so you can get as good as gellot
just practice a lot
hell that applies to eveything in life
you dont get born being a natural in atheltics or academics
you practiced to attain those kinds of status
brisk trail
people in this community have done full hitless runs, with a lot of practice
meanwhile i cant even do erubus gates if i have sword or fists lol
rapid forum
twin thistle
elysium erebus gates with a superdire butterfly ball teleporting into your face is very fair
brisk trail
thinking about the failed hitless run due to butterfly ball
brisk trail
hades is not a nice dad
spartans when their 4 yr old cant slaughter an entire room of undead enemies in .5 seconds without getting hit:
brisk trail
spartans when their 4 yr old cant slaughter an entire room of undead enemies in ...
tru!
dull niche
duunk0 has too i believe
and i want to say zyruvias has but im only 90% sure of that one
gray apex
Yea Zyru did hitless
raw herald
Hitless mirrorless as well
Other people have surely done it, think I saw someone on Reddit do it months ago
azure maple
Dio/Zeus/Ares are all good Rama specials
how good is curse of pain w/ Rama bow without dire misfortune? I luckily got that the next room and this feel super strong so far š
crude surge
Doom on Rama special is still good without Dire
You want things besides dire more anyways lol
brisk trail
when are aspects unlocked
gray apex
When you have all the base weapons
brisk trail
erebus gates ARE hard as hell with swords and fists
azure maple
You want things besides dire more anyways lol
any good resources to learn stuff? I liked seeing some speedrun google doc guides linked here
gray apex
any good resources to learn stuff? I liked seeing some speedrun google doc guide...
Is there something specific youād like to learn more about
Or just builds in general
azure maple
just builds in general with different aspects
twin thistle
azure maple
coming back to hades after a break, I beat the game a good amount of times before but just haven't explored all the aspects yet
azure maple
gotcha thanks š i didnt know who had reliable info
gray apex
Yea itās best to ask because there is a lot of jank info out there
Either outdated or bad advice
azure maple
what are some easy pacts? Ik things like DC2 is dependent on aspect, but anything notably easy across the board?
JS3 seems ok so far. EM4 isn't too bad
azure maple
CF is annoying but free it feels
twin thistle
dont do cf2 plus ri or ap
gray apex
Will make your build noticeably weaker sometimes
azure maple
yeah CF2 cut me out of a lot of options
twin thistle
id get used to at least fo1 if you want to push heat or just get better in general
gray apex
Yea FO1 can be challenging once you start but if you get used to it you almost never turn it off
FO2 TD3 same thing aswell
azure maple
i've ran it a few times its not been too bad
gray apex
When you get into higher heat you start playing SD +LC4
twin thistle
stubborn defiance
gray apex
There is a lot of fun ones tbf, depends on what youāre doing and your playstyle in general, Beowulf is probably my favorite aspect overall but yea
azure maple
I'm not too picky, I like going a wide variety of things
twin thistle
beo, rama, zeus, guan yu, chaos, special rama
azure maple
I was thinking of unlocking beowulf next. any boon/mirror advice?
no wait beowulf is the shield, I have that
gilgamesh was what I was thinking of, the bleed fist
azure maple
what boons help it?
devout terrace
tidal dash
shoals/pressure points+marked
rush delivery or +dashes from hermes, preferably with rarity
twin thistle
can do funny zeus stuff too but gotta get luckier
azure maple
using meg summon and hades god gauge. any other recommendations or is it very aspect specific or so?
twin thistle
meg is pretty much the best companion in most situations. sigil keepsake is pretty niche unless speedrunning
brisk trail
companion shady is better imo its 40 healing
devout terrace
high pollen
would you guys rather take a dual boon room or a chaos room?
twin thistle
depends on a lot of things
gray apex
Depends if Iām gaming too hard
azure maple
meg is pretty much the best companion in most situations. sigil keepsake is pret...
what do you use besides sigil keepsake?