Goated aspects
#h1-discussion
reef zodiac
Hestia and Zeus are also amazing for heat climbing
Achilles and Eris are great too, just less safe so they fall off at very high heat
oak ibex
I hate Beo
Rama is fun, but Beo be slow. I'm not much of a speed runner, but the adrenaline rush is always fun
But I still use Beo anyway lmao
reef zodiac
It’s literally the fastest aspect in the game
lone kernel
because it's weird and requires controller remap so you can simultaneously charge a bull rush and load casts
if you are on controller
oak ibex
Yeah, I play on switch lmao
mint coral
remapping so comfy for beo
oak ibex
I am going to develop carpal tunnel because of Hades just watch
lone kernel
if you have back buttons on a power A controller, use them, thats what i do
if not, you can swap codex to click right stick and cast to L1
you will burn megs getting used to it, but that'll make you significantly better at beo
reef zodiac
THEN WHY AM I SO SLOW WITH IT AAAAA
It takes practice. Also yes absolutely remap cast it’s super important
reef zodiac
Lando wasn’t saying it was but some people say it is which… disagree
lone kernel
charged shot has a much harder time of it than regular bullrushing
gray apex
it's to stroke their ego 
lone kernel
nobody thinks em4 is free lol
lone kernel
🐊
chrome wharf
??
gray apex
Lmao
static harbor
oops sorry
holy crap I didn't expect Asterius to be as strong with "extreme measures"
I can't say Serrated point helped me in this one
oak ibex
A little late reply (had to finish running errands), but I just remembered that I am absolutely horrendous at tight deadline. To complete the prophecy, I literally just reset all of my pact and did TD1. I am that bad lmao. Idk, as fun as it is to rush through the underworld, I am not as fast as I would like, making TD anxiety inducing.
void vigil
td is scary when you just start using it, I don’t blame you for that
lone kernel
A little late reply (had to finish running errands), but I just remembered that ...
understandable. you can get to 32 heat in a ton of different ways, gotta do wahts comfy. for reference, its 36/28/20 total
void vigil
I think that’s also what I did
oak ibex
I think I might build up from TD, frankly. Again, I love the adrenaline rush of the game, so I think if I could master TD, I would enjoy it even more. I guess I'll just slowly work my way up again
void vigil
it’s good pact to get used to! it’s basically essential as you go up
oak ibex
...Right now, however, I am freaking out over mapping my Beo aspect with my joycons ;-;
I have no idea what I am doing
I am just so used to the default controls ;-;
gray apex
It takes practice
mint coral
just map it to a button you are comfortable to hit cast while holding attack
also yeah, practice
reef zodiac
TD3 takes practice but it’s the easiest 6 heat you’re ever get once you get the practice down
oak ibex
...I thought I ran out of buttons...but no...I forgot the L stick exists
Okay, let's try this again lmao
mint coral
oh i thought L stick as in pressing the stick 
mint coral
wait you still have reload on default?
reef zodiac
oak ibex
Ye. It was originally a problem for me when my old joycon was malfuncitoning, but yeah
To my credit (or lack thereof), I have never remapped buttons before. Ever.
mint coral
props to you lol, thats one of the first thing i remapped
for the life of me cant use the R stick lol
reef zodiac
Reload on R-stick is very bad, yes
oak ibex
Pffft, I feel ya. I took some getting used to, but I suppose I got lucky on that
maybe I'm not as bad at this game as I think I am lmao
mint coral
most of my remaps depend on the weapon lol
Beo i use ZL on attack and cast on Y
and for whatever reason on Hera i invert those cause i play it better
reef zodiac
Regardless of getting used to, R-stick for reload is slower and allows less control
Same with Beo cast on a face button
oak ibex
I confess that I did have trouble on Beo cast.
But in terms of weapons, Exagryph is my strength. iirc, it's actually the weapon I have my (current) fastest run on
is it because I'm Texan lmao
God, remapping is just something I'm too uncomfortable with as a more casual gamer, but I confess that Hades has brought out a more competitive side to me (exclusively to this game tho lmao)
reef zodiac
Remapping reload will still make you play better
gray apex
God, remapping is just something I'm too uncomfortable with as a more casual gam...
Gotta go fast
oak ibex
Idk where to remap reload tho! Again, I have no experience with remapping, so do forgive my absolute noobity lmao
oak ibex
Gotta go fast
Exactly: screw Sonic, I am unleashing my inner Zagreus and Hermes
reef zodiac
If using Beo, put cast on that button instead
oak ibex
Ye, I'm using Beo currently, so I'll take that advice (god, so many notes lmao)
Not that I'm complaining or anything: I genuinely appreciate all the advice.
mint coral
im weird and use my summon on X lol
oak ibex
I have a feeling I am going to use the pause button a lot right now: my memory of my map was thrown out the window as soon as I finished picking my first boon ;-;
reef zodiac
im weird and use my summon on X lol
X for switch, PS, or XBox? They’re all in a different place
oak ibex
Currently, I am on one heat; at the same time, it's the anxiety-inducing TD1
reef zodiac
TD1
9 minutes per region
You have enough time to take a nap and still not time out
oak ibex
you underestimate how terrible I am at speedruns
reef zodiac
It’s not a speedrun
oak ibex
Also, my first experience with TD1 was me unwisely pairing it with super hard heats
lone kernel
*you underestimate how terrible I am at speedruns*
if you can do 36 min, you got td1
pancake, he's newer at the game than we are
reef zodiac
Also, my first experience with TD1 was me unwisely pairing it with super hard he...
Yeah don’t do that
lone kernel
use your newer player mindset
oak ibex
So to say that I am traumatized is an understatement lmao
lone kernel
not the 50 heat winner one
reef zodiac
pancake, he's newer at the game than we are
He’s underestimating himself. He’ll be fine
lone kernel
also fair
mint coral
X for switch, PS, or XBox? They’re all in a different place <:bouldy:52332911693...
switch, so whatever is the face button up on other consoles
oak ibex
We say newer, but I'm 200+ runs in and only found out about the dang heat prizes yesterday
lone kernel
i think if he can do 20 heat he can handle td2, but if he doesnt want to, there's workarounds
reef zodiac
switch, so whatever is the face button up on other consoles
Wait what’s your special button then?
oak ibex
I am still about the strangle Skelly for that btw-
lone kernel
*We say newer, but I'm 200+ runs in and only found out about the dang heat prize...
comment's still accurate, im at like 450
mint coral
Wait what’s your special button then?
Zl on most weapons, A (right face button) on weapons like beo/hera when i dont care about it
reef zodiac
Oh interesting
lone kernel
when i was around 200 clears, i was also in the teens in heat
reef zodiac
You did some hardcore remapping I see
lone kernel
you're on pace
oak ibex
comment's still accurate, im at like 450
😔 🤝 😔
devout terrace
not the 50 heat winner one
TD2 50 copege
lone kernel
not tryin to be like lol git gud noob, just believe in yourself
check your last few clear times
mint coral
i've tried remapping dash to a shoulder button like others but i never got the hang of it lol
so is still on default
lone kernel
i've tried remapping dash to a shoulder button like others but i never got the h...
it doesnt work for me lol
reef zodiac
Dash being right next to attack seems optimal to me
mint coral
same
lone kernel
i use back paddles for cast and special
reef zodiac
For easy buffered dash strikes
lone kernel
and my thumb doesnt move off dash strike
mint coral
also other reason i remapped special to ZL
oak ibex
Haha, I understand, and I am genuinely grateful for the kindness. My imposter syndrome is so real that it even affects my gaming lmao
mint coral
comfy dash special even if its not something common to do
oak ibex
insert outdated among us joke here
lone kernel
Haha, I understand, and I am genuinely grateful for the kindness. My imposter sy...
yeah, i dont want to come off as condescending, just tryin to help 🙂
also worth noting that once you get into FO2 territory
that'll cut time off
oak ibex
No, you're not coming off as that at all! You and everyone else have been extremely friendly, and I really appreciate it
reef zodiac
Haha, I understand, and I am genuinely grateful for the kindness. My imposter sy...
imposter 📮
lone kernel
oak ibex
Fite me, pancake!
gray apex
Sounds sus
oak ibex
I remember that during my first encounter with the Hydra I (somehow) managed to beat it. Granted, I got destroyed in Elysium, but that genuinely surprised me, considering Asphodel was giving me nightmares at the time
mint coral
in other topic, i still love so much good riddance when singed by orpheus
oak ibex
I HAD HIM SINGING IT WHEN I FINISHED MY LATEST RUN
He's so solemn when he sings it, but it's so beautiful
reef zodiac
I like Lament the most tbh
mint coral
yessss, lament of orpheus i love it so much
oak ibex
Honestly, I love how he sings: it really does reflect what I would imagine to be Orpheus' voice in myth. The only other portrayal that I think can compete is Hadestown Orpheus
lone kernel
in other topic, i still love so much good riddance when singed by orpheus
i got that yesterday coming out of the pool and just left it on while i cleaned up l
oak ibex
If you haven't cried to Orpheus' songs at least once, are you really living ;-;
On that note, I remember listening to the Peter Hollens cover of Good Riddance on YouTube and I was so moved oh my god
But if I had to choose my fav, it would be Lament. As both a musician and a literature nerd, analyzing the song from both perspectives makes me want to create a religion around Darren Korb
lone kernel
i could stream on the modding server and like, overexplain a 32 heat run if you like
mint coral
Darren singing is so good
"mother, im here" from bastion is still a great feeling
lone kernel
If you haven't cried to Orpheus' songs at least once, are you really living ;-;
honestly, the talk about music and looking at your picture has the three houses overworld battle song replaying in my head now
oak ibex
honestly, the talk about music and looking at your picture has the three houses ...
Apex of the World breaks me every time
oak ibex
Darren singing is so good
"mother, im here" from bastion is still a great feelin...
And god, as a classically trained musician myself, I absolutely love the fact that Darren is from a rock background
I appreciate rock because of my dad, but from a compositional perspective, Darren's is so unique, especially in terms of video game music
Like, as much as pretentious classical music elitists would say otherwise, a classically trained background can be severely limiting at times
lone kernel
I mean, probably not more limiting than my musical background, which is beat through the fire and flames on expert one time but asked my brother to hold green the entire song (which he did, and I appreciate him for it)
oak ibex
And as much as my nerdy self would love to continue this convo, we might want to move to #music if we plan to do so
lone kernel
I’m also okay at karaoke
feral belfry
what's your go to song
mint coral
in the blood is great
somber star
Yeah
chrome wharf
I learned lament on piano before even knowing what the game was like
oak ibex
As you should 😤
Sometimes I wonder if Darren lurks here and silently watches as we scream about his amazing music
mint coral
was fighting em3 champions and focusing on asterius
forgot about shared suffering and got confused when theseus suddenly shifted into his 2nd phase lol
mint coral
still 2 shotted his 2nd phase
oak ibex
Ayyyyyy nice
gray apex
Rama gud
oak ibex
I'm also still mentally recovering from the divorce hearing that Theseus and Asterius briefly had
mint coral
love their anime arc lol
also first time i got divine protection in such a long time lmao
oak ibex
Zag as their very confused third wheel in that arc was just amazing
I may find Theseus annoying, but god, that arc made me found him endearing as a character
chrome wharf
their entire Arc is Theseus being a solo drama troupe and Asterius calmly waiting for him to tire out so he can talk
oak ibex
Theseus: Me? Dramatic?! NEVER!!!!
Asterius: calmly drinking tea
chrome wharf
have you seen the
https://twitter.com/unseven/status/1357329958071394306
oak ibex
My god, that TikTok series fits him so well-
That man is literally stereotypical Shakespearean drama taken up to the nth degree
feral belfry
I"ve yet to do an infernal gate because I hear they're not worth it. It's one of the last achievements I have left to get, what's a good weapon for not getting hurt? Beo or Bow?
mint coral
shields/bow/hestia/guan yu ig
feral belfry
are they pretty hard?
mint coral
tartarus gates are fine
chrome wharf
don't turn on FO/JS/BP(?), and try to go in at Tartarus
mint coral
^
mint coral
tart/aspho is fine
still can get some cursed rooms here and there but no much problems
chrome wharf
Take Skelly or Dusa's companion
mint coral
elysium gates can be really cursed
oak ibex
shudders in elysium gates
chrome wharf
butterfly balling
mint coral
nothing better than a mini boss version of the B.ball right as you spawn in the gate lol
oak ibex
Sometimes, playing Hades reminds me I am...not the best at making good decisions
mint coral
i stil feel the dumbness of taking Pulv blow on shield then right after taking sea storm lmao
feral belfry
Take Skelly or Dusa's companion
good idea
last veldt
Next time I think I can do HL3, FO1, EM4 can someone remind me not to be daft.
Especially not when I accidentally leave high confidence on.
inland knot
Will Elysium ever get recoloured?
It's completely black for me as of now
Not counting doors, the white lights, etc
Oh, and the grass
mint coral
That sounds more like #h1-tech-support tbh
I think is 22%? Either mentioned somewhere here or the soeedrunning server
inland knot
yeah, why?
mint coral
black and white elysium sounds funny, do you have a screenshot?
inland knot
I'd have to boot it up and get all the way to elysium lol
chrome wharf
sounds like the Hollow Knight shades are invading
mint coral
just do a speedrun /s
mint coral
Hades but is a black and white detective movie
chrome wharf
cries in haven't beat P4
inland knot
I'm in elysium now
oak ibex
walks in
B-Black and white Elysium? Am I in hell?
My brain: Well, technically, the game is-
Me: Shut up I need a moment
inland knot
how?
feral belfry
I was doing a low pressure speed run and felt like I wasn't going to break sub 10 so decided to do all 5 sacks even though I 2 sacked because I'm trying to max all keepsakes and still finished in 13 min 🥲 shoulnda finished it at 2 haha
twin thistle
twin thistle
probably because he hasnt activated windows yet
mint coral
what the-
twin thistle
really i thought it was a feature
twin thistle
idk verify game files or something
reef zodiac
Did they pirate it or something?
What could cause this?
And how do you just think “yes this is what it’s supposed to look like”
inland knot
lmao
asterius calls zagreus "short one"
btw, when you die, the colours are supposed to fade out to black, right?
with you in the middle in a pool of your own blood
right?
chrome wharf
the blood is more like Styx water
inland knot
eh
chrome wharf
Mixed with your blood, probably
inland knot
it's cooler if it's blood
chrome wharf
is your Styx white or sth
reef zodiac
Why is your elysium black though
inland knot
i think it's red
reef zodiac
Are we just not gonna talk about that
inland knot
the pool in thoh is red
reef zodiac
Do you know what Elysium is supposed to look like?
versed mason
not that lol
old tapir
tfw rare crop targets the boon you wanted to sell at the next purging pool
i still sold it because i needed to get poseidon as the 4th god in my pool not ares who this boon was from. but now i have a useless rare crop
and the worst thing was, it was purple and i specifically chose it rather than one of the other boons ares offered when i was forced to do his room, because rarer boons give more money. and then demeter is like NOPE NO MONEY FOR U
lesson learned avoid rare crop when planning to sell a boon
mint coral
Selling a boon doesnt remove gods from your god pool
reef zodiac
Someone should make some document or guide explaining every single unexplained mechanic from empty dashes to boon pools to Beowulf blocking radius
The same issues are encountered every day by a different person (understandably so, since a lot of things are not explained in game)
whole comet
Sooo... Elysium in space? XD
lone kernel
Someone should make some document or guide explaining every single unexplained m...
Why not you? You know beo pretty well
reef zodiac
No I don’t just mean Beo
I mean the whole game
And I maybe could, but I’m lazy so I won’t
brisk trail
bro
i just unlocked beowulf
and I paired it with mirage shot poseidon cast
wtf
this is.gold
feral belfry
That's the meta
brisk trail
this is the best build
chrome wharf
Mirage Shot has a feature-bug on Beo where it actually doubles cast damage as oppose to the advertised 1.3x
chrome wharf
add Snow Burst for more stonks
chrome wharf
Not on Beo
old tapir
congratulatuons you're a speedrunner
brisk trail
lol
I always play so reckless when I get good builds lol
recklessly
um
i get offered unshakable mettle or razor shoals
which one should I pick
RS probably?
chrome wharf
Shoals
brisk trail
yes
twin thistle
depends if you have a bunch of dps or not
brisk trail
how does ruptures work?
twin thistle
moving enemies get dot
chrome wharf
well it offsets the 10% dmg penalty on Beo
crude surge
why does beo even have the 10% damage
gray apex
So it sounds more fair
crude surge
lol
gray apex
devout terrace
10% damage makes beo simply too dangerous with hard labor, so I wouldn't recommend it at all to newer less experienced players, the risk isnt worth it
fast willow
10% damage makes beo simply too dangerous with hard labor, so I wouldn't recomme...
can confirm, you take 84 damage from dad spin instead of 80, literally unplayable weapon idk why they even bothered putting it in the game. Just use aspect of arthur.
gray apex
Only way to make this trash weapon usable is to take different league from Aphrodite
unkempt sequoia
We need more weapons in game!!!!
rapid forum
"Hey guys, it's me, ya boi. Today we're going to play the WORST aspect in Hades, Beowulf."
cause that would be a pain
if you want
you can put poseidon attack on beowulf
it would push the enemies
but can potentially push it beyond your cast AOE
yea
it just how it works and you need to adjust to it
chrome wharf
that's why some people advocate loading during the rush instead, so you only load if you know it can hit
easier said than done imo
yeah you can load during charge too
whole comet
I think aphro or dio cast were easier to use. Also high dmg
fast willow
if youre too late on the load then itll be a waste though
full nexus
rebind cast on shoulder
fast willow
so it takes some getting used to
full nexus
it's very easy
whole comet
At least save u lots of trouble worrying knockback, yeah?
full nexus
well pretty sure you don't need to reload on beo
chrome wharf
Yeah I boot out reload when Beo or Hera
devout terrace
We need more weapons in game!!!!
No we dont!!
runic parrot
actually we do. i suggest zag picks up his lyre as the seventh infernal arm.
fast willow
No we dont!!
no clearly we need the boots weapon
chrome wharf
*dead cells flashbacks
reef zodiac
Tempest Strike should at the very least do the same numbers as Heartbreak Strike
I wish it was remotely viable in any context
It’s so bad
The knockback actively hurts you in most situations
I honestly think spear and maybe bow (and luci ig) are the only weapons where tempest strike’s knockback isn’t a downside
Tempest Strike spear would be kinda interesting if it wasn’t for the incredibly worthless damage
last veldt
Chiron bow with tempest strike flourish and a good razor shoals and/or sea storm is comfy in Elysium for keeping armoured stuff at bay.
reef zodiac
I wouldn’t say “good”, but it’s maybe not terrible
gray apex
I really hope you meant to say Flourish not strike
reef zodiac
They didn’t
chrome wharf
the damage you do is related to how in time you're strumming to the OST
gray apex
reef zodiac
Tempest strike is an embarrassment of a boon
If there was a 7th weapon I’d want it to be a hammer
gray apex
imagine a hammer getting hammer upgrades
reef zodiac
Hammer
gray apex
sounds sus
last veldt
I really hope you meant to say Flourish not strike
Oh yeah
Ha ha
Tempest strike with flurry shot has most of the same benefits though.
last veldt
I'm not saying I'd aim for it.
Razor shoals can stack up eventually and sea storm is a thing
reef zodiac
Still worse than almost every other attack
Worse than divine and frost strike
That’s when you know you went wrong
lone kernel
Athena attack kinda based tho
reef zodiac
No
lone kernel
fast willow
Tempest strike is an embarrassment of a boon
yes it's quite sad
worst atk boon in the game probably
atleast flourish isn't terrible
reef zodiac
worst atk boon in the game probably
Yeah because it’s good literally nowhere
Best cast scenario is that it’s not a big detriment
It could absolutely be 50% base
fast willow
but instead we have the boon that reduces enemy damage that's 50%
clearly nyaanyaa worked on the game
last veldt
When I was starting out I found it useful to push stuff back in Elysium.
lone kernel
Broseidon god of the brocean pretty much is for dashes 
last veldt
Buy some space and time
dawn edge
Any tips for Megaera companion? I have all keeps sakes maxed, 180 runs, 50 + clears now. She wont show up in the room at all. I even have her dialogue exhausted. If I kill her and come back she does not even have a explanation point anymore. Bonds maxed with everyone but her and thanos
lone kernel
Any tips for Megaera companion? I have all keeps sakes maxed, 180 runs, 50 + cle...
The answer to literally every “how do I make xyz quest line pop” in this game is simply to play more itll happen promise
I think it may require you to beat em1 idk
dawn edge
At this point I'm worried its glitched
dawn edge
what is em1?
fast willow
When I was starting out I found it useful to push stuff back in Elysium.
knockback into walls is pretty bad without breaking wave/typhoons fury, even with one of those is ok in the first 3 biomes but incredible in styx
dawn edge
ahh ya Ive dont that loads of times
lone kernel
I figured
fast willow
what is em1?
free heat
lone kernel
~~free heat~~
at least until you get ap2ed into Poseidon attack relentless volley zag bow
fast willow
at least until you get ap2ed into Poseidon attack relentless volley zag bow
still free heat.
the EM barely changes the fight
if youre losing that its because of FO/HL
reef zodiac
Plus if you died to Meg, you didn’t deserve to win the run anyway
lone kernel
Yeah I lost a bunch of times to Meg when learning fo2 and lc4 feels bad man
reef zodiac
I still die to Meg at 50 sometimes
fast willow
I still die to Meg at 50 sometimes
same
brisk trail
i died 3 times before defeating her 
i started playing yesterday and i just defeated hercules and minataur, im also confused what boons are can someone explain real quick
reef zodiac
LMAO
chrome wharf
the buffs that gods give you
fast willow
i started playing yesterday and i just defeated hercules and minataur, im also c...
wot
brisk trail
i dont see whats funny mate
chrome wharf
they might be called blessings in your language
lone kernel
Is it potentially a translation thing? What region are you in
reef zodiac
i dont see whats funny mate
It’s literally the very first thing you encounter in the entire game
lone kernel
ah, crocodile society beats me to it
brisk trail
oh
chrome wharf
made more complex by the EN lines using them interchangeably
brisk trail
It’s literally the very first thing you encounter in the entire game
like those little icons of gods yeah?
chrome wharf
yeah
lone kernel
yeah pancake be nice, there’s usually an explanation that isn’t LOL YOU DUMBASS
reef zodiac
I didn’t say that
lone kernel
language makes the most sense here
brisk trail
alr alr
lone kernel
chrome wharf
(I play in chinese half the time, if you need translation lemme know)
brisk trail
ohhhh ok makes way more sense now ty
lone kernel
(I play in chinese half the time, if you need translation lemme know)
I’m curious now what are they called in Chinese
chrome wharf
Blessings
lone kernel
Word
chrome wharf
祝福 
brisk trail
nono for me the game calls them boons too i think i just didnt really pay attention in the start and i thought boons were something else when it started mentioning them
signal aspen
bruh
lone kernel
narrow hemlock
I didn’t say that
you didn't but laughing at someone asking an honest question is a bit rude.
signal aspen
nah
reef zodiac
Yeah not really man
The two that are shown there is:
- Me confused why someone’s Elysium is apparently pitch black
- Me discovering a glitch I had never seen before
It’s not.
signal aspen
bruh this is getting off topic just stop talking about it
i dont think it really matters
chrome wharf
reef zodiac
👆
mint ember
Got a question
I consider myself a hades speedwalker bc im not quite good enough to be a speedrunner
But like at what point is a time considered good
signal aspen
sub 10 is the thing most speedrunners aim for
versed mason
WR is like 5 min? good times are relative, sub 10 maybe?
mint ember
Damn aight lmao
Got a long way to go
That about other categories like all weapons
Like an hour im guessing?
signal aspen
WR is like 5 min? good times are relative, sub 10 maybe?
unmodded wr is 5:32 modded is 4:55
signal aspen
Like an hour im guessing?
all weapons are more like 3 or 4 hours i think
i havent watched many all weapon speedruns
signal aspen
if you have more questions you can ask them in the speedrun discord pinned in #self-promotion
yeah 24
mint ember
Same diff
signal aspen
basically the same thing
versed mason
just round up
mint ember
The point is that its alot of runs
signal aspen
you're looking at a broken resolve
reef zodiac
Bro
signal aspen
bruh
gray apex
wtf
signal aspen
probably
last veldt
All I see are giant crab claws coming down onto someone's frightened head.
I mean that would break my resolve
versed mason
broken heart over sad skull
last veldt
Giant crab claws will do that
versed mason
not my problem
calm zenith
How can you break the heart of a bloodless
Huh
Answer me that followers of aphrodite
brisk trail
ASTRIUS WIL NOT GIB FUWWY CLAWS PLZ HALP??
reef zodiac
Cool
signal aspen
nice
lone kernel
**ASTRIUS WIL NOT GIB FUWWY CLAWS PLZ HALP??**
5 bwood in fwist aspect uwu~, den pway gaem gud
lone kernel
fuwwy claws lol
brisk trail
Does anyone know the line of code for unlocking it
lone kernel
yeah
signal aspen
Does anyone know the line of code for unlocking it
its just rng
lone kernel
all you gotta do is clear em4 with the Zagreus aspect of every weapon and have to beat the Minotaur 10 times in a row
Once you do all that
You’ll get it
reef zodiac
It’s definitely one of those things
lone kernel
Point is just keep doing runs
Unless you are like a really good coder, or you could look for help on hades modding discawwd
brisk trail
There must be a true false setting for it somewhere in the scripts
lone kernel
I just loaded a 100 percent save file lol
reef zodiac
Possibly the worst aspect in the game
lone kernel
Pancake what’s better zag bow or fuwwy cwaws
Pancake is an all or nothing type
If it’s not like, the best weapons
lone kernel
I find he is harsher on them than the average player here
reef zodiac
I just think it’s boring
Gilgamesh is so bad that I don’t even use the attack out special unless I’m using ME
They’re just so weak and unsafe
gray apex
Pancake whats more optimal zeuwus shield or meowulf
reef zodiac
Pancake whats more optimal zeuwus shield or meowulf
In what context
lone kernel
fuwwy cwaw wush dewivwwy spwash dash
super based
Is there a delete recent history in my phones autocorrect
gray apex
Yea
lone kernel
he said 
gray apex
Skill issue clearly
reef zodiac
Then at the very least beat my heat PB or speedrun PB with the aspect. Then you can talk trash
reef zodiac
My heat PB with Gil is 40
signal aspen
"Random bullcrap go!!!"
reef zodiac
Don’t tell me to git gud and then be way worse then me. Sorry, I know it sounds rude, but I’m calling you out. If you’re gonna say skill issue, at least be better than me with the aspect.
brisk trail
He angy
gray apex
vewy angwy
brisk trail
Yws uwu
reef zodiac
If you’re getting heat world records with the aspect and you think I’m just playing it wrong and it’s not actually bad, then you can say skill issue.
But if my heat pb with the aspect is more than 8x yours, then who are you to say it’s a skill issue
lone kernel
brisk trail
He vewy awgy
reef zodiac
You wouldn’t know what’s a skill issue
lone kernel
gray apex
This is getting hot
lone kernel
brisk trail
Hotter than Meg- dies to random skull
gray apex
i guess pancake didnt take it too well
brisk trail
Lol
void vigil
hey, remember to be kind, dont insult other players even as a joke, since tone is not easily conveyed over the internet. and please dont encourage arguments when they happen.
brisk trail
Bruh
lone kernel
Bruh
that's a mod, its time to go back to talking about the game
and let the beef die
tell em bryz
reef zodiac
definitely
brisk trail
I'd love gil IF I COULD GET IT
reef zodiac
I enjoy casual dash only runs
oak ibex
Oh, I love Gil too
reef zodiac
I just dislike the aspect when I have to try not to get hit such as at higher heat
oak ibex
It's wild, but that's exactly why I love it
signal aspen
i will never understand why people like gilg
reef zodiac
Because the attack and special are just so incredibly unsafe and dash-only is not really equipped to handle high heat with TD3
oak ibex
Combine the dash function with Hermes boons, and you get the best adrenaline rush in-game. At least for me: I am very much a risk taker, haha
void vigil
I'd love gil IF I COULD GET IT
keep at it! if asterius still has new other dialogue to say, that might be why youre not getting the aspect dialogues
reef zodiac
i will never understand why people like gilg
Many dashes is fun. The attack and special are not though
brisk trail
keep at it! if asterius still has new other dialogue to say, that might be why y...
I've gotten the same dialogue 10 TIMES
AAAAAAAA
signal aspen
i wouldnt say its fast paced since the attacks are so clunky
oak ibex
I also briefly mentioned this in another conversation, but all of the fourth aspects are my fav due to my background as a literature nerd. The Epic of Gilgamesh in particular is close to my heart.
void vigil
youre not giving up the run when youre not getting it, are you?
oak ibex
i wouldnt say its fast paced since the attacks are so clunky
I will confess that the attacks are clunky, but for me personally, the special and especially the dash and maim parts make it so much fun. Keep in mind that I usually am not a risk taker in games: Gilgamesh unleashed a part of me that I never realized before lmao
signal aspen
theres a long cooldown after the attack
so like if you try to pick up an item right after attacking you have to wait
not as much
yeah
since i speedrun and do high heat a lot i always spam pick up as i finish a room
so since gilg has a long cooldown it takes a while to pick things up
noble olive
Are there any ways to submit a bug report?
I had the game freeze up on me in my best run and it didn't drop any rewards :c lost the progress
tyvm
devout terrace
F10 removed
oak ibex
Ayyy, casual gamers, let's go
I confess that Hades has unlocked a competitive side of me that no other game has done before (I mostly play games that have strong narratives). I have found myself wanting to unlock all the achievements in this game, whereas I could not care less for other games.
32 heat is still kicking me in the butt tho ;-;
I working on my TD skills...but I also got my copy of Shining Pearl yesterday, so I am very much distracted lmao
It is! God, I have been officially roped into the Supergiant fandom because of Hades. I respect a game that is able to pull me from my regular interests, which says something because I have a wide variety of interests to begin with
chrome wharf
I working on my TD skills...but I also got my copy of Shining Pearl yesterday, s...
I have the whole hades family in brilliant diamond and Zag is more evolved than his parents thanks to stone evos
rip in no Nyxmagius tho
chrome wharf
it's yours now
oak ibex
Thank you, my kind liege
In my copy of Shield, my Scorbunny is named Zagreus for obvious reasons lmao
chrome wharf
since I can't use it LOL
zenith skiff
…nyxmagius?
chrome wharf
oh my Zagreus is a Ponyta
oak ibex
Mismagius, but with a pun on Nyx
oak ibex
oh my Zagreus is a Ponyta
Kanto or Galar version? I'm going to assume Kanto, but don't wanna jump to conclusions lmao
chrome wharf
one of the fully evolvable two fire types... Thanks Gamefreak
Kanto, I'm playing Brilliant Diamond
oak ibex
this…this is a game that I haven’t played isn’t it?
If you haven't played anything from pokemon Gens 4 and up, than probably not
zenith skiff
ahhh okay
i have not
only started getting into games a couple of years ago and I should probably play some pokemon but expensive
oak ibex
Yeah, Nintendo likes to do that ;-;
chrome wharf
Hades is a Murkrow because I'm not at dusk stone yet, Persephone is a Roselia, I have her stone but waiting to learn Petal Blizzard
oak ibex
Persephone: angrily throws flowers at her opponents
gleaming wasp
Woooof just hit a wall lol. Been obsessed with this game and just short of 200 runs felt great about where I was wrapping up.
Playing on PS5 and have only a couple trophies left, then I realize the last one is maxing out all keepsakes.
signal aspen
yeah that was the last achievement i got too
gray apex
Just a bit of a grind
gleaming wasp
For sure, not a challenge issue, just a do I really want to play 40 more runs with weird keepsakes issue
Not a big complaint! It makes sense as a trophy.
gray apex
Is it really that many
You can do all 5 styx tunnels for a bit more
I dont remember it taking that many runs but it varies ig
gleaming wasp
I was just ball parking. Think I have probably 10 keepsakes and at most I’m looking at like 60-70 per run. Maybe it’s less but it feels like a lot lol.
gleaming wasp
Yeah. Just added it up, 600 total chambers needed. Probably gonna wrap up and revisit that platinum over time.
reef zodiac
Fair
mint ember
Imagine meg becomes playable character in Hades 2 and co-op becomes an option
gray apex
Lol
mint ember
Its easy to visualize storywise as well
Meg wishes to abandon her Fury duties thus goes to zagreus and voila, hades 2
Or hey if you dont want to build a new game just make some DLC that opens after you finish the main story
zenith skiff
megs, than, and zag as player options 👀
mint ember
Hell yeaaaaaaa
lone kernel
Alecto is left in charge when lord hades goes up to mount Olympus and things have gone totally nanners. Join your friends Meg than and zag in the exciting trip up through and up mount olympus to beg dad to come home! We promise you won’t die right before you get there…not
lone kernel
Minotaur turncoat plot line
like a heist movie with Theseus and asterius and a few shades and patty and Achilles trying to live a little
lone kernel
So Tartarus is straight up what you’d expect it to be, elysium gang is a heist movie now, and asphodel Eurydice fed lernie so now lernie plays drums in a band with Eurydice and Orpheus so instead of hades asphodel it’s basically guitar hero to get past asphodel now you gotta rock out
zenith skiff
yes please
lone kernel
Alecto’s like, Vicky from fairly odd parents taken to the extreme
zenith skiff
tartarus becomes 10x harder as everything is in disrepair so things are constantly falling/breaking
lone kernel
Styx straight up empty, all the satyrs are wasted with Dionysus
But then you gotta get to Olympus and climb it
zenith skiff
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
thorny mirage
can’t hades not leave the underworld
zenith skiff
yoink in a bunch of other mythological characters
thorny mirage
isn’t he bound to it like zag is?
zenith skiff
i believe he can, just not for long periods of time
lone kernel
can’t hades not leave the underworld
He can now I decided
thorny mirage
based
lone kernel
Super easy, barely an inconvenience
lone kernel
Kratos is the boss of Sparta which I think if I’m blatantly adding new biomes
Sparta, the labyrinth, uhh
zenith skiff
athens
lone kernel
Olympus is like Styx that u gotta go through god tunnels
zenith skiff
yesss
lone kernel
but it’s like, gotta fight that god in that tunnel
reef zodiac
Super easy, barely an inconvenience
zenith skiff
and each god becomes a final boss if you go through the wrong tunnel
eyyy great minds
lone kernel
Yep we’re cookin w fire now
zenith skiff
also it's always like it's on that one heat setting with a time limit
lone kernel
Boons of That God Damn Megagorgon
zenith skiff
yessss
thorny mirage
And instead of nyx’s favor you have hermes?
only based on the fact that there is a time limit?
lone kernel
Oh we can totally make up a consumable to extend the deadline like how phantom hourglass did it except not boring and bad
Oh hermes is the narrator
zenith skiff
you start getting boons from narrator
lone kernel
Your boy narrator turns out to have also been a shade so he can’t leave underworld
thorny mirage
he’s a storyteller
lone kernel
however, through some shady business, hermes helps him out
thorny mirage
he’s in one of Hephaestus’s automatons
entirely for trolling purposes
but your boi just wants to narrate
zenith skiff
yesss
lone kernel
wait there has to be a river/water area so king schelemeus can save you on his ship
zenith skiff
odysseus level?
zenith skiff
oh true
thorny mirage
for a mortal
So maybe like athena’s path
Takes place in a giant trojan horse replica
And it moves around like the inside of vah naboris in botw
except actually cool
zenith skiff
plot twist: none of the olympians in hades show up, instead it's only the main ones that didn't show up (hera, hestia, hephestus, apollo)
lone kernel
naboris was cool
thorny mirage
my point is that those were samey and had the same aesthetic as the rest of em
While this would be golden with wooden supports on the inside
zenith skiff
ah okay
thorny mirage
and you can move these supports around magically to get new areas or solve puzzles
chrome wharf
The Greek underworld receives a letter: We heard you have an underworld security expert, we'd love it if you came over and tested our underworld too.
Zag goes to China and finds out that their hell has 18 levels
crude sorrel
wish this game had coop 😦
oak ibex
The Greek underworld receives a letter: We heard you have an underworld security...
Zag: 🥲
wind violet
so what can i do to hone in on one specific god? I know about keepsakes but i was wondering if i should avoid other god boon chambers or if I eventually have to take one other than zeus
if I want pretty much just Zeus for my weapon what can I do?
Is it worth keeping the zeus keepsake into asphodel just to get him more?
mint coral
Oncw you get the god from the keeosake onlu the rarity bonus applies
Wont see it guaranteed again in aspho or later
If you wanna get a lot of 1 god, fated authority mirror skill can be fun for tgat
wind violet
oo
okay
ty
and for aspect of zeus should i just go all Zeus and fill up the other slots with random boons or are there certain duos I should look for?
mint coral
Zeus call + aphro core boon (normally attack) to get smoldering air pretty much
Also artemis boon to get kightning rod is fun imo
mint coral
As long is not artemis call ig
Zeus call will be oretty strong if you get more zeus
reef zodiac
what call is that best with?
Zeus, Poseidon, and Dionysus are definitely the top 3
Athena is also very good
reef zodiac
As long is not artemis call ig
Zeus call will be oretty strong if you get more z...
I’d rather have arty call than Ares or Aphrodite tbh
reef zodiac
I’m trying to play Hera and I have lvl 6 crush shot with an extra cast. But my special is just doing more damage than my cast lmao
Charged Volley + Conc Volley
Wasn’t the plan but it’s doing over 2K damage per
reef zodiac
I almost always prioritize Artemis call
crude surge
mint ember
idk i get by
reef zodiac
Why “get by” when you could actually have you call help you?
And also do more against bosses btw
weary kiln
are we not supposed to keep call just for bosses?
weary kiln
i was being rhetorical
weary kiln
but fr i didnt see my bar filling up for my early runs and thought you can only use it against bosses
reef zodiac
versed mason
it tends to fill more when you get hit, but on bigger rooms you can usually get one or two calls in
it also builds on damage
reef zodiac
Depending on what weapon/build you’re using, calls can charge very quickly or every slowly
signal aspen
Where it’s useless
it can easily kill the tiny rats in styx
lone kernel
Artemis call and meme beam stonks vs dad
lone kernel
I often force athena in elysium when meme beaming which occasionally opens up deadly reversal, it’s not too common but when there’s deadly reversal meme beam and Artemis call…pog
literally hunter instinct (seriously) and you have 3 or 4 artemis blasts per dad fight
With 55 p crit so like, several extra megs
versed mason
interesting
if one were to force a meme beam build would you use pos sword for cast damage
mint coral
you use achilles spear
reef zodiac
For sure Achilles, yeah
versed mason
i see i see
reef zodiac
+150% is a lot better than +50%
versed mason
i forget achilles isnt just attack damage
mint ember
Nah
Artemis call is bussin for lernie and theseus
Especially paired with meg summon
reef zodiac
Ok…
But Zeus call is amazing for literally everything
Bosses, enemies, anything
Plus more i-frames
lone kernel
Zeus call is great with smair, which will do more damage overall. Sometimes you don’t have aphro or Zeus (as in, meme beam tbh), then it’s nice to have
reef zodiac
Zeus call is good always
Wym
There are few situations where there’s a call I’d rather have
lone kernel
I mean if you’re going for meme beam or arty start and can’t guarantee smair
Artemis aid is like, extra Meg for dad and Theseus
Zeus aid is better but sometimes you don’t get Zeus 🤷♂️
brisk trail
is the music copyrighted?
reef zodiac
I mean if you’re going for meme beam or arty start and can’t guarantee smair
You literally don’t need smair
It’s just the best call
lone kernel
Poseidon with rip current
mint ember
Im tryna watch a boss health bar immediately go to 0
reef zodiac
Zeus call so not satisfyng
You don’t like doing a ton of damage and getting i-frames very often?
lone kernel
Arty aid is better against dad if you’re built for it. Zeus aid better everywhere else
reef zodiac
From an objective standpoint
From an objective standpoint, Zeus’s aid does more damage and also is useful in normal rooms and also can be used for i-frames and also scales fantastically with other Zeus T2s
So…
small thistle
Don’t you hate when you accidentally click quit and you got farther than you have ever gotten?
reef zodiac
You mean give up?
small thistle
Yeah
reef zodiac
I don’t
mint ember
i think artemis call is hilarious
reef zodiac
I’m not telling you how to play
You said “objective”
I was speaking objectively
The word you may have been looking for is “subjective”
narrow hemlock
you get a bit assertive about your opinion, pancake
reef zodiac
Looking back, you probably meant subjective
lone kernel
ice wine is kinda based
It’s like, snap my fingers and make an explosion happen that’s way easier to aim than regular trippy shot
reef zodiac
I literally don’t know if I’ve ever had ice wine on a non-Hera (or Beo but that’s eww) aspect
lone kernel
Honestly, it works best as a Dionysus cast you take because it’s epic and you take it to purge, then get the duo in the tart endshop kinda situation and roll with it because it did a lot of damage to Meg
mint ember
Bruh had a run earlier today where first boon was poseidon and the only thing he offered was extra fishing chance
Ay that was 450 free sheckles
reef zodiac
Bruh had a run earlier today where first boon was poseidon and the only thing he...
The scripted huge catch run
versed mason
he always offers me huge catch in styx lol
mint ember
Poseidon boons feel underwhelming not including dash ofc
versed mason
u mean chaos? like with the sigil?
outer lava
Yes.
I'm at ~150 runs
Both of their Favors have been locked for I don't know how long now
One of these runs
chrome reef
Am about to fight lernie with only aphro and arty boons lol
Chiron does indeed go brrr
chrome reef
:zadge:
lone kernel
its from hades modding server
lone kernel
yea
old tapir
just got a switch. my muscle memory is based on steam with xbox controller. makes sense and is good that the control scheme of the four buttons under the right thumb "bottom button to dash, left button to attack, top button to special, right button to cast" is true on both platforms, but because nintendo calls the bottom button B and the right button A rather than the other way around, it's screwing with my brain that the "no"-in-menu button and "yes"-in-menu button are switched
lone kernel
just got a switch. my muscle memory is based on steam with xbox controller. make...
i had the same problem getting a ps5 - my solution was to global remap O and X (your B and A on Xbox respectively), then go game by game and switch it back in the remap controls option of that game
switch offers the same global remap option in accessibility i think
i was coming from switch
to playstation
reef zodiac
i had the same problem getting a ps5 - my solution was to global remap O and X (...
Yep same
I was gonna just get used to it
But then games like Dark Souls were using controls that were also flipped from what I was used to
So I just remapped
nocturne ginkgo
i finally reached max bond with everyone that gave me a keepsake, and was ready to put the game to rest
then i tried extreme measures at max
i cannot consider the game done until EM Hades is down
full nexus
do a 32 heat run too :)
slim grail
will geralt survive in greek mythology?
spice hearth
the strat is to ignore the minis during the 1st phase and get to phase 2 asap
but it's still super annoying while they're hitting you and flooding the screen
nocturne ginkgo
True
I didnt catch that the doomstone TPd
Cause im used to Excalibur hitting like the actual sword of legend
Then i saw a roamimg doomstone add
"Wait, you cant be alive"
sees the main Doomstone with barely any hp lost
"B o i:
And i loved every second of it
The question now is just which weapon i wish to use now
Lucifer is damn fun
And i lime becoming demeter's disciple because her legendary is scary
mint coral
"reap what you sow!" Said grandma
nocturne ginkgo
Aaah, tbf im p sure its a player to player thing
Like for example i really cant get behind beowulf
Execute anyone with chill and below 10% hp iirc
mint coral
Yes
nocturne ginkgo
And anyone applies to bosses
mint coral
And it has a cool line from Dem
nocturne ginkgo
Which is the part that caught me completely off guard
She just reaches down and deletes them with a scythe
Yeah she actually just declares out stuff like
REAP WHAT YOU SOW
BEWARE WINTER'S CHILL
And thats on top of her full powered Call being a very ominous
I SHALL TAKE E V E R Y T H I N G AWAY
mint coral
Lol she says that at full call?
nocturne ginkgo
If only
mint coral
That was for your message, bad timing
rapid forum
think pom levels only increase charm duration?
halcyon girder
think pom levels only increase charm duration?
Oh yeah it does but still it's powerful but it shoots one shot only
So basically a blunderbuss
Okay yeah charm is basically OP against Hades because his beam thing you can stop it with just one heart arrow aid thing
mint coral
just be careful with charming a spin attack or something lol, Dad will repeat the attack without windup after the charm
halcyon girder
I actually forgot about that ranking thing
The one after you finish the game the normal ending
reef zodiac
Okay yeah charm is basically OP against Hades because his beam thing you can sto...
Idk about “OP”
mint coral
is fun but i havent used aphro aid in ages
halcyon girder
The game can get boring for a while but eh it's fine to pass the time
I literally have 120 hours on Hades that it just became the same
reef zodiac
is fun but i havent used aphro aid in ages
Based
If Aphrodite’s Aid is “OP”, then Zeus’s aid is literally gamebreaking
Aphrodite’s Aid sucks imo
halcyon girder
Aphrodite aid doesn't suck well most of the time
On bosses most of the time
On enemies half of the time
And on mini bosses eeeeh
reef zodiac
Imo:
On bosses it can be ok but it’s still worse than Zeus, Poseidon, Dionysus, and Athena. And probably Artemis and honestly maybe Demeter.
On enemies and minibosses it’s completely terrible, second worst only to Ares
With smoldering air it’s literally the worst call
halcyon girder
I actually like Zeus aid
I only use it because it's the only aid I could have gotten
mint coral
"is okay but" is my opinion to ares in general lol
reef zodiac
still better than Aphrodite’s aid in some situations though
mint coral
like it works but is just weird
reef zodiac
I don’t like Ares
mint coral
biggest difference is ares legendary only applying correctly to his call
halcyon girder
I always combo Ares and Dionysus because there's the poison and then doom
So basically you poison your self to death
reef zodiac
Not the same thing. Because one is a call and one is a cast
halcyon girder
I meant the blade it's the same it's like when you ran out of ideas so make the same thing but different
reef zodiac
It doesn’t make any sense to say “if you want a blade just get the cast not the call”
halcyon girder
Sorry if I late to respond I'm making an account for something for payday 2
reef zodiac
Lmao huh
halcyon girder
Yeah okay it's done
It's something for unlocking a few items because I'm too lazy to do them
And then I need to buy em it's stupid but eh
mint coral
thought that the fo1 speedy swordman was gonna make me fail the erebus gate but it was a failed block on a unarmored small chariot lol
halcyon girder
I'm never gonna beat my record again because it took me too long and not gonna do it again
reef zodiac
What record
devout terrace
thought that the fo1 speedy swordman was gonna make me fail the erebus gate but ...
mint coral
punished for using RR
lone kernel
@boreal jetty welcome to the based pacts society 
boreal jetty
thanks
halcyon girder
What record
Eh just my run record on 13 minutes my thumb hurts because well I'm playing on the switch
reef zodiac
13 minutes? You can beat that easy if you use a speedrun guide
mint coral
love when my non charon keepsake ichor barely last till hades
halcyon girder
13 minutes? You can beat that easy if you use a speedrun guide
I did well almost
fast willow
just say unmodded WR
raw herald
No-Hermes WR 
fast willow
wait i just saw that