Then I might even sell or trade the special later for something else.
#h1-discussion
last veldt
reef zodiac
You didn’t know that? Wait really?
That’s why storm lightning is the only prerequisite for splitting if you’re using lightning strike
rapid forum
it's more of.... I didn't notice
reef zodiac
Fair enough
fast willow
i wish high voltage didnt exist
1 t2 for chain lightning and 1 t2 for bolts would make more sense wouldnt it?
so just drop the largely useless high voltage
last veldt
It works okay with lightning rod or scintillating feast
But yeah, mostly not worth it
dawn relic
you have to ||beat hades 10 times?|| right
south sapphire
deez nuzt
reef zodiac
Bro you’re not funny
devout terrace
low shuttle
why am i not getting the boost from pierced butterfly when im not taking damage
i tracked my health an entire encounter and i didnt get the boost
just did it again and no boost
is this like a bug or something?
pastel python
Would anyone have a good build for temperature 32 pleaseee
pastel python
Thank s
vapid narwhal
#h1-high-heat-strategies and #h1-builds-and-combat should have more resources
reef zodiac
Would anyone have a good build for temperature 32 pleaseee
Sure. Here’s a few:
Hestia - Heartbreak Strike, Divine Dash, any of the good Hestia hammers
Rama - Twin Shot, Heartbreak Strike, Zeus’s Aid, Smoldering Air
Beowulf - Passion Flare, Deadly Strike, any Poseidon core (preferably call or special), Mirage Shot. Go for snow burst if it’s convenient.
Zeus - Zeus special, Heartbreak Strike, any call, Smoldering Air
reef zodiac
If you want advice for your pact, people in the #h1-high-heat-strategies channel can help with that. A good pact is important.
pastel python
Ok
low shuttle
why am i not getting the boost from pierced butterfly when im not taking damage
so is the pierced butterfly thing a bug or what cause i checked the wiki and nothing mentions anything about it
i beat that run a while ago but i still wanna know the answer
void vigil
why am i not getting the boost from pierced butterfly when im not taking damage
Are you in the temple of styx, perhaps? In the small chambers of it, it doesn’t activate, only in the big ones.
devout terrace
Yeah that definitely explains it
gray apex
I think so?
empty pelican
not sure if I just need to get good or something but unless you're going for extremely high heat I do not see any scenario where taking heightened security is good
lone kernel
gee, imagine pouring hundreds of hours into the game and not knowing this <:dusa...
gonna have to commit sudoku for that one boyo 
reef zodiac
not sure if I just need to get good or something but unless you're going for ext...
Yeah I don’t touch HS until beyond 40 heat
But I know some people use it as early as 32
gray apex
not sure if I just need to get good or something but unless you're going for ext...
It's free heat if you're good enough to not step on traps
So yea
I took it at 32 because I had plans to go further so might aswell get used to it
Only way to get used to it is to take it
reef zodiac
Nothing feels worse than losing a run to a 150 damage Hades pot
lone kernel
em4 is 4 heat js
gray apex
True
gray apex
Lol
reef zodiac
And losing a run to a 100 damage Elysium arrow is also really rough
lone kernel
talk to your children about the dangers of pot
gray apex
Yea that's HS for ya
reef zodiac
I just lost a run to a 150 damage Hades pot
How much heat?
lone kernel
yeah HS scuffed pact
gray apex
It happens
empty pelican
How much heat?
something like 11, not much I'm just taking a bunch of random pacts to do the harsh conditions prophecy
lone kernel
and is only 1 heat so yeah scuffed pact 
reef zodiac
Oh yeah stay away from HS at 11 damn
Don’t even think about HS until 32 at the bare minimum
lone kernel
something like 11, not much I'm just taking a bunch of random pacts to do the ha...
Going Athena and taking sure footing makes it normal again lol
If for the prophecy
reef zodiac
I generally avoid HS until ~42
empty pelican
Don’t even think about HS until 32 at the bare minimum
maybe you misunderstood my message but I only took it for the fates prophecy, I have no plans to stick with it after I complete that prophecy lol
reef zodiac
Fair
empty pelican
I'm going to do every pact but that one first and then just do a 1 heat run to make it alot easier on myself
lone kernel
I'm going to do every pact but that one first and then just do a 1 heat run to m...
That works. Athena keepsake to start and sure footing would prob allow u to get it done a bit faster
empty pelican
I did have sure footing that run but I got rid of it because underworld customs
not my finest moment
lone kernel
versed mason
oh I've been going on HS with low heat to teach myself to not get hit by traps
fast willow
Yes it's a 60fps target
that sounds rough
vapid narwhal
It's a Switch so the power devs get to play around is limited
It runs well all things considered.
grim solar
The Borrow fight is kicking my ass, I won it for the first time in my last run but it cost me 3 death defiances, barely won the run after that...
somber wasp
Well I made it to dad for the first time on 32 heat. Just had 25 health and no death defiance 
lone kernel
Well I made it to dad for the first time on 32 heat. Just had 25 health and no d...
try not to die!
lone kernel
The Borrow fight is kicking my ass, I won it for the first time in my last run b...
Yeah that’s a hard fight don’t take it in Tartarus until you know the fight
dawn relic
to get to credits
thanks!
karmic pond
Personally find Charon harder than Furies and Lernie but easier than the champions and the final boss
chrome reef
Charon does 60 damage with a swing of his oar
karmic pond
For your first few attempts at him I can't suggest taking him until you're confident in the strength of your build. Even then, just like most bosses you're probably gonna lose to him a couple of times
reef zodiac
Personally find Charon harder than Furies and Lernie but easier than the champio...
Imo Charon is harder than non-EM Champions and Hades
It’s not that his attacks are particularly hard to dodge
It’s that they’re so punishing if you don’t
karmic pond
Yeah, I always play with EM so I forget to mention their normal forms
reef zodiac
If you’re fighting him in Elysium with a full build he can still really mess you up in just a few swings
But he’s definitely not as hard as EM4 Hades
Although arguably harder than EM3 Champions
fast willow
Although arguably harder than EM3 Champions
even if his damage is big hes a lot slower than em3
karmic pond
Pretty sure it is 50
reef zodiac
even if his damage is big hes a lot slower than em3
Yes but he also has a ton of health
karmic pond
First time I beat Charon was me suiciding at the end of Tartarus with a bad build to practice his fight more since I only fought him once and I won
For me personally he's much easier than the last EM bosses
reef zodiac
Could be that I just have way more practice with EM Champions than I do for Charon
lone kernel
I’d say he’s easier than em3 in terms of which fight is more difficult, but you also gotta account for when you meet Charon, Tartarus fights are usually suicide, asphodel is kinda risky too and case by case
chrome reef
Alright
lone kernel
em3 not harder than Tartarus Charon but harder than elysium Charon
chrome reef
Time to speak objectively to people who know way more about the game than me
Lets go
lone kernel
Standing by
reef zodiac
great I love when people do that 
chrome reef
lone kernel
What u need
reef zodiac
What is this based off of?
chrome reef
What is this based off of?
Me
gray apex
looks
lone kernel
Zag bow D tier
chrome reef
As an individual
reef zodiac
So it’s 100% based on how much you like playing the aspect
chrome reef
So it’s 100% based on how much you like playing the aspect
Effectively yes
reef zodiac
Then why did you say you were speaking objectively
chrome reef
I mean I can speak objectively if you want
reef zodiac
And also what is the point of sharing it? It’s not like we are gonna disagree with your personal preferences
reef zodiac
I mean I can speak objectively if you want
No I didn’t say I want that
reef zodiac
Why does it seem like that
reef zodiac
You gotta give zag bow a fair chance
Boring aspect
chrome reef
It doesnt im just messing with you
chrome reef
Boring aspect <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
TRUE
You just gotta use Artemis for that 34 percent crit chance
reef zodiac
But don’t think I’m on your side because Hades spear is one of my least favorite aspects in the game
lone kernel
You’re a boring aspect zag bow is fire
signal aspen
https://imgur.com/a/DB0Njjb
What is this
lone kernel
boom roasted
chrome reef
What is this
A tier list
signal aspen
I hate it
reef zodiac
What is this
Based off how much they like it. Aka an opinion that didn’t really need to be shared
signal aspen
How is gilg better than beo
reef zodiac
It’s not
chrome reef
How is gilg better than beo
Beo is slower
reef zodiac
It’s based off how much they like the aspect
lone kernel
i mean i know hestia is good but i hate it
chrome reef
haha rapid dashes go brrrrrrrrrr
signal aspen
Beo is slower
??????
lone kernel
hes a newer player guys
gray apex
Lol looks like you have no clue how Beo works
lone kernel
who, based on username, doesnt pay attention to meta
we all figure out the game differently
chrome reef
Duh
lone kernel
my first 32 heat clear was with em4 ffs
chrome reef
correct
lone kernel
let the guy live and when he wants to get super sweaty tryhard
we'll be here lol
but also give zag bow a chance
reef zodiac
Zag bow is boring
chrome reef
but also give zag bow a chance
I have
raw herald
Zag bow is just badstia
chrome reef
Its boring
chrome reef
Zag bow is just badstia
Gottem
fast willow
Yes but he also has a ton of health
? he legit has less health than asterius alone
since charon ends the fight at 20% HP
lone kernel
is "boring" code for "i can't power shot dash strike"
raw herald
“What if hestia had double edge”
lone kernel
i find the simplicity beautiful
raw herald
And timing
chrome reef
is "boring" code for "i can't power shot dash strike"
I can power shot dash strike on literally any other bow
reef zodiac
is "boring" code for "i can't power shot dash strike"
I’m sorry are you messing with me???????? Huh???
It’s boring because I can power shot dash strike
lone kernel
more replying to the five people in a row that said it
reef zodiac
With 100% consistency
chrome reef
Bieng a cheiron prodigee myself
lone kernel
not you specifically, but you were included in the list of people that said boring zag bow, yes
reef zodiac
Not knowing how to dash strike power shot doesn’t make it boring. What makes it boring is doing the exact same two inputs over and over with the exact same timing the entire run with no deviation.
signal aspen
Zag bow fun idk what you are talking about
lone kernel
the entire game is rhythm based
reef zodiac
Every weapon has a rhythm to it anyway
Yes but some of those are more simple than others
lone kernel
i get significantly worse if playing on low volume
chrome reef
the entire game is rhythm based
I want Guitar Hero Hades now
lone kernel
I want Guitar Hero Hades now
i think this is theoretically doable
reef zodiac
To be clear, I’m not telling anyone not to use Zag bow, and I’m not saying Zag bow is bad, and I’m not insulting anyone who uses Zag bow. I am only saying that I personally find it to be incredibly boring.
lone kernel
probably would require foot pedals to have enough buttons tho lol
reef zodiac
It is the most repetitive aspect in the game
frail wedge
probably would require foot pedals to have enough buttons tho lol
Well now I want VR hades
reef zodiac
How would that even work
lone kernel
Well now I want VR hades
i've tried it (just playing in VR mode, giant screen on my face, not an actual VR game)
frail wedge
How would that even work
It probably wouldn’t
reef zodiac
Yeah but why
lone kernel
and basically just have an 80 inch TV on your face
fast willow
It probably wouldn’t
i like your profile pic
frail wedge
i like your profile pic
Thank you
signal aspen
How would that even work
First person hades
lone kernel
i only used it that way for Red Dead in the first person shooter segments tho
frail wedge
It goes back to normal in two weeks
raw herald
The only valid tier list https://imgur.com/a/b7zaI0n
frail wedge
its mash is so bad that you die anyways
Simply don’t die lmao?
lone kernel
Mash splash dash
raw herald
Mashed potatoes are probably dead
fast willow
Mash splash dash
ah true
reef zodiac
The only valid tier list https://imgur.com/a/b7zaI0n
but Hestia and Zag bow only have two buttons
lone kernel
mash splash dash and smash for cash
raw herald
Hestia has attack special cast and dash if you play properly
reef zodiac
its mash is so bad that you die anyways
That’s why you only dash. That’s not even really a joke.
fast willow
~~but Hestia and Zag bow only have two buttons~~
you can play hestia much better than that
reef zodiac
Hestia has attack special cast and dash if you play properly
Yeah that’s true
raw herald
It’s the most buttony aspect out
fast willow
That’s why you only dash. That’s not even really a joke.
honestly true
lone kernel
gilgamesh, splash dash, breaking wave and extra dash boons from hermes w ruthless reflex like
can hard carry you
until dad
gray apex
and a reload mind you
fast willow
gilgadash> probably every non ME gilga build
reef zodiac
Yeah pretty much
signal aspen
Idk any non ME or dash gilg build
raw herald
True shot shackle
reef zodiac
My 40 heat Gilgamesh build was almost dash only
raw herald
reef zodiac
Have you actually done boonless 50 Beo? And also why Beo instead of Hestia
fast willow
My 50 heat beo was boonless
mirage shot to buff the 50 base damage cast tho
reef zodiac
imagine actually trying to play the aspect
Yeah the attack and special are so weak and unsafe it’s actually crazy how bad it is
raw herald
Boonless beo 50 is probably better than boonless hestia at 50 ngl
gray apex
No joke
reef zodiac
Why is that?
raw herald
AOE
reef zodiac
Yeah the thing that sucks about Hestia at 50+ is that you kinda just have to pray for no bad savior rooms
gray apex
I'm also not really good at all with hestia
chrome reef
So whats yalls favorite boon in general
reef zodiac
Savior greatshield rooms can literally be harder than EM4
reef zodiac
So whats yalls favorite boon in general
Static discharge or smoldering air
chrome reef
Gonna make a god tier list boons based on each weapon
fast willow
So whats yalls favorite boon in general
crystal meme
raw herald
Zeus attack on the gun tier list
reef zodiac
I also love breaking wave, razor shoals, rip current
reef zodiac
Zeus attack on the gun tier list <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Eris: S
Lucifer: A
Zag: B
Hestia: F
Maybe Zag C
Zag Rail is only fun if you use spread fire
fast willow
actually heroic RD is my favourite boon.
reef zodiac
raw herald
Funnily enough the current rowo modded wr has 4/4 lightning strike
fast willow
The only time I get Epic RD is when I have AP2 and common greater haste
hey man
20% global damage>com swift flourish greater evasion
reef zodiac
Funnily enough the current rowo modded wr has 4/4 lightning strike
Lightning strike Hestia? Is that actually optimal?
raw herald
No it was a dare
reef zodiac
Oh
lone kernel
Gonna make a god tier list boons based on each weapon
That’s gonna be a very very large spreadsheet
raw herald
reef zodiac
LMAO
chrome reef
Gonna make a god tier list boons based on each weapon
https://imgur.com/a/3kh8Q8V Sword (More specifically Arthur and Nemesis)
reef zodiac
You don’t have to send all the tier lists here
chrome reef
Then where
reef zodiac
nowhere
chrome reef
:(
chrome reef
Fine then
high island
1. Be kind.
fast willow
I would say something about the arty and chaos placings but I saw your aspects tierlist
so I wont
high island
You can share your tier lists here or in #h1-builds-and-combat if you like. Nothing wrong with that at all.
gray apex
I like that Tier list
chrome reef
I would say something about the arty and chaos placings but I saw your aspects t...
Do it
fast willow
nah
gray apex
Boonless beo 50 unironically better than Icy flare
high island
Probably faster than Icy Flare any Heat.
raw herald
Unfortunately epic rd and mirage shot deny that dream
I think icy flare has a 6:3x and shackle has a 6:4x
slender topaz
hello there
so i believe that this is the best game on earth and yall can fight me on that
lone kernel
so i believe that this is the best game on earth and yall can fight me on that
Nobody here’s gonna fight you on that
empty pelican
so i believe that this is the best game on earth and yall can fight me on that
I politely disagree
but I can say it's one of the best
karmic pond
Clearly somebody hasn't played the critically acclaimed Tom and Jerry Tales for the gameboy advance 
charred hemlock
I had a fun run with Naeglings Board with poseidon boons. Enemies just get sent very far and Tiny Vermin just takes massive damage thanks to wave pounding
Though in high heat it does very litte to bosses Ouch
empty pelican
I had a fun run with Naeglings Board with poseidon boons. Enemies just get sent ...
if you didn't have it then get poseidons duo with artemis, it basically just doubles cast damage
charred hemlock
i was attacking with my shield
charred hemlock
yeah
devout terrace
That also means you never got the attack damage bonus
So might as well have been playing base shield
charred hemlock
wait tempest strike doesnt boost naeglings attack damage D:
brisk trail
the boost only applies to the rush no
reef zodiac
Not really
At least not for an attack as telegraphed as that
It’s a lot more lenient than you think
About as lenient as dashing through a hades spin
Possibly even more so, but I’m not 100% sure
full nexus
Huh
It's a very very very important skill to master to me at high heat
Definitely made the difference between life and death in my runs before
devout terrace
Its like the only actual use for arti call imo
full nexus
Yeah
devout terrace
I just keep saying to myself "ohh call i frame poggie"
full nexus
That's at least two poggies
full nexus
I mean
devout terrace
Got a big pom right before dad in attack
full nexus
Did you find it sufficient
devout terrace
Yes
full nexus
Nice
devout terrace
This is eris damage lol
devout terrace
Darknesses bad
full nexus
And if it poms I'd go doom
full nexus
Darknesses bad
Yeah was thinking about that
devout terrace
Same argument to schad's special only stuff
gray apex
I think if you're gonna do Special only Doom is pretty good
Damue has a 60 Heat with it afterall
Nuts
gray apex
reef zodiac
Its really not substantial
According to Ocaml, it gives “a tiny bit over 0.4 seconds” of invincibility
Kinda a lot
wind violet
what would you guys say is the most difficult but rewarding aspect?
I want to devote my time to getting good with one weapon or aspect and I want it to be hard but I don't want it to have absolutely no reward
reef zodiac
Yeah Zeus probably has the highest skill ceiling
Rama is up there too
But I’m sure there are other aspects with a very high skill ceiling that I don’t think about because they’re not particularly meta
lone kernel
Zag bow
reef zodiac
I knew you were gonna say that
devout terrace
lone kernel
sword idk
gray apex
Well
lone kernel
can’t get it to work for me
gray apex
Practice is gonna pay off no matter the aspect you choose
reef zodiac
can’t get it to work for me
Yeah me neither. I can’t remember but I don’t think I ever beat 45 with sword
lone kernel
Yeah I’m at 32
reef zodiac
Why are you comparing everything to Zag bow
lone kernel
yes
reef zodiac
And I remember that sword was the hardest part of 40 24
devout terrace
Practice is gonna pay off no matter the aspect you choose
except for sword
I think I spent about 3 months grinding sword and was still terrible
lone kernel
Excalibur FO2
reef zodiac
Excalibur FO2 <:zadge:889087231065718795> <:zadge:889087231065718795>
Nah that’s not too bad
devout terrace
I put like 500-600 hours on sword between march and july
june and july were good
rest not so much
lone kernel
Hahaha damn
lone kernel
I can’t beat 32 w nemesis
reef zodiac
Arthur is like Hera where it’s great at heat until abruptly it’s really bad
devout terrace
partially from trying to meme with AP2 TD0
based
lone kernel
partially from trying to meme with AP2 TD0
Based
Damn, beat me to it like it’s a nemesis race
devout terrace
Arthur is like Hera where it’s great at heat until abruptly it’s really bad
yeah both fall off after 45
reef zodiac
Hera 40 was hard tbh
devout terrace
40 kinda any heat
marble badge
however once you realize that base bow is enough to just ignore the aspect's gimmick hera excels once again
devout terrace
like your build shouldnt have looked radically different
devout terrace
however once you realize that base bow is enough to just ignore the aspect's gim...
I mean compared to zag bow
marble badge
can't really do that with arthur
reef zodiac
Very true
reef zodiac
JS3 maybe
lone kernel
Fog
devout terrace
hera cant deal with those on a cast focused start
lone kernel
or is that bad too
devout terrace
wdym fog
lone kernel
Dionysus cast spam
devout terrace
no
reef zodiac
On Hera?
devout terrace
dont
lone kernel
Does that not work at 45
devout terrace
reef zodiac
God no that does not work at all
devout terrace
Its just bad and inconsistent and slow
lone kernel
I mean my best is 40 with Rama and eris
Fair enough. Tho scintillating feast is kinda based ngl
wind violet
Zag bow <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
i love you
lone kernel
uwu
wind violet
but also I spent like a week doing nothing but rama and now I can't get back used to zag bow
reef zodiac
To be clear, Zag bow will not be the right aspect to pick up if you’re looking to put a lot of time into mastering an aspect.
wind violet
oh yeah I know it just holds a special place in my heart
lone kernel
but also I spent like a week doing nothing but rama and now I can't get back use...
I need to readjust to Rama haha
wind violet
first clear ever :)
lone kernel
Same problem
wind violet
and i have like 40 more runs on it than any other weapon
lone kernel
Zag bow too based
wind violet
indeed
reef zodiac
oh yeah I know it just holds a special place in my heart
Fair. No hate to Zag bow. Well, a little hate to Zag bow but not because I think it isn’t good
wind violet
crit is almost always fun
reef zodiac
Pressing the same two buttons with the exact same timing for the entire run isn’t particularly fun for me
wind violet
i like aiming
reef zodiac
I play on controller. No aiming required.
wind violet
shield is too unga bunga, sword is a lot of clicking unless you just do special dash dash, rail is uhh not my favorite
spear is just
spear
it's average
reef zodiac
What does “too unga bunga” mean?
wind violet
bow best :)
idk I feel like im not really using any skill while using it but I do have limited experience with it
and I know it does take skill it's just
reef zodiac
Didn’t you say you wanted to put in the time to get really good at a weapon/aspect?
chrome wharf
it's fun when unga bungaing 40 heat with shield ME
wind violet
yeah these are my thoughts when I first started
lone kernel
reef zodiac
it's fun when unga bungaing 40 heat with shield ME
Which aspect?
lone kernel
unga bunga beams
lone kernel
icy flare or you’re a fake gamer
reef zodiac
ME Beo?
gray apex
yea why not
gray apex
icy flare or you’re a fake gamer
It's been done, thunder flare done too
reef zodiac
That sounds… actually bad
reef zodiac
Like I didn’t think Beo could be actually bad. But ME on Beo sounds so bad
lone kernel
Give me a challenge those are too easy for me
gimme a min I got u
gray apex
Nah unmodded too much pain
lone kernel
45 heat with talos aspect curse of drowning with ruthless reflex
gray apex
Already enough resets to get modded
chrome wharf
unmodded 60-heat beo
Just get Passion Flare and Snow Burst through AP2, WR ez
lone kernel
Or whatever heat you think will challenge you
reef zodiac
Hitless dashless
lone kernel
Demeter flurry slash zag sword
reef zodiac
I want to know if it’s possible
devout terrace
Give me a challenge those are too easy for me
50 beo with RI3, and you cant use cshot
lone kernel
use kratos attack on the aspect of tiger woods
50 heat meme beam with a non cast aspect, no chaos allowed
gray apex
I didnt really make it work
gray apex
Well true but it's beo
devout terrace
TD2 CP2 DC2
gray apex
any of those other challenges appealing to ya
I'm resetting for Tart ME on the Talos one
lone kernel
Based
lone kernel
also based
lone snow
is it worth it to take lower rarities for important boons for your build?
or should i try to go for higher rarities
gray apex
Depends on the boon
If you’re doing something like Merciful End then a common Ares attack/Special is pretty garbage
Worth resetting for a better one
reef zodiac
Yeah some boons have better rarity scaling than others
lone kernel
is it worth it to take lower rarities for important boons for your build?
A decent approximation is that for attack and special, epic is a two pommed regular boon. For cast poms matter way more than rarity
But I’ll take a common Zeus call and go smair and be fine
brisk trail
I think for general purposes I usually take important boons over rarity always
unless I want to highroll in high heat or something
reef zodiac
If it’s early, it can definitely be worth rolling for rarity on Static Discharge
spare tiger
As crazy as it sounds i actually skip extra dashes
It always messes with my muscle memory and i rarely make the most of them
Might be fun with Enkidu though
feral belfry
Makes sense
reef zodiac
Or you could just… learn to use extra dashes
Depending on the weapon, an epic gr can more than double your DPS
Not to mention your safety
Plus, even if you “rarely make the most of them”, that’s still better than most Hermes boons anyway
last girder
Alright, getting a little bit farther. Still not great.
Spear feels like the best weapon to me.
civic portal
||You know how Asterius can sometimes fight you before the big Theseus and Asterius boss fight? Is it ever possible to kill him there? So you just fight Theseus alone?||
mint coral
you can kill him there but he still spawns at the champions fight
civic portal
👁️ 👄 👁️
Thanks for the info!
Oh and || I'm in the epilogue now I think (Persephone is back in the Underworld). I'm guessing the "Real ending" happens when I max out my relationship with all of the Olympic Gods? ||
civic portal
OH. Am I right about how I get to it? Or does it happen when I complete enough runs?
real wadi
You're mostly right except you don't need to max every god, just most of them
i don't know the details, sorry
civic portal
Np! Thanks for your help thou
last veldt
You can't "kill" Asterius in his solo fight. He always yields at about 20%.
mint coral
is possible with a really strong hangover + decay and winter harvest
last veldt
Not sure I believe you
mint coral
i've found that a stygian shard trap if it hits him after the bubble goes also does dmg
probably a really boosted one can do the job too
last veldt
I think that bug was fixed. I've used hangover on him today and no sign of continuous damage.
Looking at the UI I think that's an earlier version (see the 4 status markers over the health bar? It doesn't look like that now).
high island
It still works just fine.
Dusa will also chase him out the door. Very sweet.
They only "fix" things like this if it's gamebreaking. For example, there was a popular "Hydra skip" tactic that was just killing the main head in one shot, but it crashed the game on some systems, so they fixed it to prevent that.
mint coral
the other day also saw someone being damaged by Dusa projectiles too lol
bright comet
start of the run, i already have ares, can go either for aphrodite or demeter
aspect of hera bow, didnt find my cast yet
since i already have ares i was thinking aphro cast for doom weak duo
but could go crystal beam artemis later instead
which do u think is more fun?
valid cipher
I beat Learnie.
kindred silo
Pog
twin thistle
start of the run, i already have ares, can go either for aphrodite or demeter
as...
aphro cast is pretty meta on hera, demeter cast pretty pointless, curse of longing is pretty useless
bright comet
really, even with doom on attack?
twin thistle
the boon does very little. weak enemies will die instantly to your cast and against bosses youll be reapplying doom anyways so youll get little value from the duo
oak ibex
Hey, uh, this might be old news to some of y'all already, but no one told me that HADES WON A HUGO AWARD-
https://twitter.com/SupergiantGames/status/1472407365416857600?s=20
green dove
Just 1 second of venting: how could i be SO behind in the Achilles-Patroclus questline? I'm only missing his quest and companion for platinum, but so many travels to Elysium missing 🥲
Did this happen to you too?
low egret
for the pc players, do you guys do dash at cursor?
bright comet
for the pc players, do you guys do dash at cursor?
no
but ive bought the game on ps4 when it got there and put the dash on L1 instead of x and ive never been so satisfied with a dash button before
kbm is actually inferior
pc is superior on frames tho
green dove
I've heard that both ps versions are 60fps
bright comet
yes but at learnie em2 it sometimes drops depending on the build and generally in asphodel
low egret
so console > pc?
bright comet
gamepad > keyboard and mouse
pc > console but if u have a 60 inch tv then debatable
green dove
yes but at learnie em2 it sometimes drops depending on the build and generally i...
Yes I bet. Which is surprising for a almost 2D game, I think
low egret
gamepad?
low egret
pc is superior on frames tho
hades isnt a game u need like 200fps on tho so
bright comet
well if there is too much stuff happening on screen ive been experiencing consistent fps drops in asphodel
on ps4 slim
on pc frames reach triple digits so if any drops u wont notice a thing
it just looks so pleasing on big tv
valid cipher
Is the only way to fish in Chaos to force it?
I've had a bit of lag on PC, it's pretty rare. Probably just Windows being Windows.
low egret
hades has always been butter smoooth for me on pc
low egret
sheesh
bright comet
well idk what hardware hades uses the most, could just be a lot of stuff open besides that loads up ram or whatever
valid cipher
It's only a quad core.
bright comet
quad being 4? i have same but i7 7700
valid cipher
That's 4 generations newer.
brisk trail
good boons for magnetic fists?
valid cipher
Should I try to borrow?
valid cipher
I died last time
calm zenith
Learn his basic patterns and phases and dont do it early and it's not too bad. Basically free gold
Might be able to handle it then.
You can try
valid cipher
I can't go back now.
valid cipher
YOOOO
old tapir
https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-build-guide someone needs to pin this to one of the channels to answer many of the new player questions about builds; it has several build ideas for each weapon aspect
valid cipher
This run is basically dead, I limped out of the fight.
old tapir
or check the pins of #h1-for-new-players for a guide of builds for unupgraded weapons
dusk turtle
you know
valid cipher
Only took two tries to beat him.
dusk turtle
Witches Circle actually seems not that bad with Middle Management on
valid cipher
It's cake with the shield, the special clears out most of the protectiles.
Half way with 200HP.
Cool.
I also got a death defy back.
somber wasp
Does hypnos say something funny if you clear your first ever run? Just curious
vapid narwhal
Yes
valid cipher
He says something funny when you lose at the end too.
I have nearly 300HP.
I've never had more.
Looks like I'll be able to buy the expensive thing the boatman sells at the end.
I just got Legendary Huge catch from the last shop in the game after I did all the tunnels.
Clearly the game hates me to an extent.
mint coral
Pray for that surface fish
valid cipher
I beat the boatman in a midway shop in the first area!
This is a good run, beat the fury in like 30 seconds.
plush eagle
Alright
Here we go
My mom is in the ER and I’m sitting at home at 99 runs. Time to do my 100th run for her
It’s gonna be Eres Rail
valid cipher
https://clips.twitch.tv/MildFurtivePuppyVoteYea-ME4iFjxLxId-fenT
Man, this was silly.
brisk trail
YES
FINALLY
MERCIFUL END
IM GOD NOW
umm
do I understand this wrong
or
all ability that has deflect, can apply doom also
brisk trail
because my special has deflect and no doom is applied
runic parrot
you have to apply it first
brisk trail
so instant doom
wtf
ok
dude
900 crit
insert surprise pikachu face
so do I spam special attack special attack special attack
that way apply activate apply activate
right
wtf
didnt think it was this broken 
chrome wharf
yeah apply doom then hit with the move that deflects
high island
brisk trail
if I have flourish dash thingy, does it trigger doom?
high island
Flourish Dash thingy? What? 
high island
That's the go-to build for Malphon in speedruns.
Doom on Attack and Deflect on Dash.
And Divine Flourish just to unlock Merciful End.
valid cipher
brisk trail
malphon?
high island
Malphon, the Twin Fists.
high island
Demeter Aspect, but any can work.
brisk trail
okok
high island
It's also very good on Guan Yu and on Nemesis.
And any shield that's not Beowulf.
Can still make it work on Beowulf, there are just way better builds for it that don't use Merciful End.
high island
I wrote a Demeter Aspect guide here: #h1-builds-and-combat message
valid cipher
This game is so good.
plush eagle
I got interrupted and it wasn’t a good run so I gave up on the run but I’ll go back to it later. I might not do eres though
Might switch it up
peak orbit
Am I the only one who thinks Winter Harvest is really difficult to get?
peak orbit
This game is so good.
This is one of my favorite games of all time
south sapphire
This game is so good.
very very good
runic parrot
winter harvest is very finnicky to get yeah
peak orbit
Like here's my opinion of all the legendaries, Winter Harvest could be one of the best ones, but the problem is that it's really hard to get.
Doesn't help that Demeter is mostly a support goddess.
lone kernel
Am I the only one who thinks Winter Harvest is really difficult to get?
Yep it is
peak orbit
Like wow
Also getting back to it I grew to really enjoy Chiron bow
First time I used it I got Unhealthy Fixation on the Heartbreak Flourish
Second time I get Heart Rend with Concentrated and Relentless Volley
Yes Deadly Flourish
lone kernel
Based
peak orbit
Hi Dad 3 how is your da- oh your HP is gone
Also how would you guys play Chaos Shield?
Trying out new aspects
rapid forum
what I do is bullrush and get very close to the enemy, like barge in to their personal space, disregard it completely and special
dash
rinse and repeat
lone kernel
Also how would you guys play Chaos Shield?
Go to the weapon select, then pick Zeus or beo
rapid forum
kek
lone kernel
Chaos shield feels so underwhelming
rapid forum
for casual run it's fine, I wouldn't use it on high heats
lone kernel
also, had a date tonight, they asked about my hades tapestry which resulted in a demo and I was very impressed they took like ten seconds w skelly to realize zag sword is booty 
peak orbit
Lmao
peak orbit
Go to the weapon select, then pick Zeus or beo <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Beo?
Well TBF
I have never tried Beo before
And I have drenched every weapon with 15 human sized Titan's Blood already
rapid forum
beo is fun
lone kernel
I have never tried Beo before
beo gud
empty pelican
I have never tried Beo before
beo gud
peak orbit
ples teach
empty pelican
get flood flare, get mirage shot, get snow burst
win
👍
(passion flare and trippy flare also work)
lone kernel
Trippy and Stygian
also remap controls so u can charge bullrush and load cast simultaneouslu
empty pelican
I have cast on l1
peak orbit
Hmm
Should I try doing it on stream later?
Just so I can learn how to use it.
I think this and Lucifer are aspects I wanna lear
Maybe Arthur as well
brisk trail
no, i got the merciful end
reef zodiac
Acorn?
brisk trail
now what do I change the keepsake to
yes
thanks!
merciful end is so big
but health so bad lul
devout terrace
Do you already have athena dash or not
reef zodiac
Oh yeah you gotta have that
brisk trail
i dont have athena dash
reef zodiac
Oh…
devout terrace
devout terrace
i dont have athena dash
brisk trail
wait, if I get athena dash before getting the duo boon, the percent to get duo is lower right
brisk trail
someone said that to me lol
rapid forum
divine dash is not ME requirement
reef zodiac
Divine Dash isn’t a prerequisite. You need the special too. But it is key to actually utilize ME to its full potential
brisk trail
but i remembered read/heard somewhere that if I get any other boons, my chances are lower or smth
reef zodiac
That’s not true
brisk trail
okay then
devout terrace
thats the opposite actually
The more core boons you fill up
The more likely duos are
reef zodiac
Yeah
devout terrace
Its a small difference but worth keeping in mind
brisk trail
what are core boons?
devout terrace
Attack, special, cast,dash,call
reef zodiac
Pressure Points
brisk trail
doesnt decrease my chance right
rapid forum
no
reef zodiac
Your chance for what?
devout terrace
Pick up arti's cast
brisk trail
getting duo
devout terrace
Because that opens up deadly reversal
Which is amazing when you already have merciful end
reef zodiac
It decreases your chance to get exit wounds because it opens up crit t2s
For example
Assuming you don’t have any other crit boons already
brisk trail
When i use merciful end with athena dash, should I pick greater recall or greater reflex lul
reflex for sure right
rapid forum
yea
reef zodiac
Rarity of divine dash does not matter at all
reef zodiac
Sub 3% chance
high island
Friendly reminder: https://clips.twitch.tv/SlickGenerousKuduSuperVinlin-C42YB-Xjv8xvCiAq
Beat the Furies or Hades.
You'll be able to get a lot more after your first clear.
Yeah, you need to clear a run to get Titan Blood from the Furies again.
But if you haven't beaten them with a weapon yet, do that and they'll drop one.
There's also a 50% chance that the Styx shop has a Titan Blood for sale.
The Temple of Styx.
Fourth biome.
After Elysium.
If you want to avoid spoilers btw, #h1-for-new-players is better suited to that.
Yeah, but now that you know it's on sale there, you can try to save up money.
Sometimes it's a Diamond instead, so you can just buy that if you have the money.
high island
If you've already unlocked all the weapons and the full mirror and are trading away Chthonic Keys, make sure you always keep at least 15 on you for the Special Deal at the Wretched Broker.
Sometimes he'll offer 1 Titan Blood for 15 Keys.
brisk trail
YÂYYAYAYAYAYYA
I JUST GOT ME FROM THE LAST ENCOUNTER IN THE 4TH LEVEL
THE LAST
YÂYYAYYA
peak orbit
Actually I kind of neglected the Ambrosia after a while
After I maxed out everyone's hearts I went to trade in all of the Ambrosia because maxed out Batty is all I used.
I put in my blood all into aspects
So I maxed out everything except Giglamesh
brisk trail
does anyone know how am I lucky in this clip?
btw, I lost both of my death defiance in this encounter cuz i wasnt paying attention so I was about to give up this attempt.
low egret
aspects for fists?
brisk trail
demeter
low egret
rlly?
brisk trail
yes
low egret
oh
so im just bad
ok
got it
coz ive been using magnetic cutter and people say its bad?
brisk trail
its easy to use yeah sure
south sapphire
uwu
brisk trail
owo
empty pelican
I'm so used to playing on lower heat that whenever I try 32 heat with LC4 I always end up buying healing items from Charon
devout terrace
coz ive been using magnetic cutter and people say its bad?
Its way too slow and leaves you vulnerable
fast willow
Its way too slow and leaves you vulnerable
just dashcancel smh
talos best fists because its more interesting than the others
south sapphire
what do they do
gray apex
what do they do
Removes your healing
spice hearth
are there any active hades yters
haelian's still pretty active
south sapphire
u can heal????????///
reef zodiac
it seems like a solid aspect
Use what you enjoy.
I can give you advice on what’s good, but that doesn’t mean you need to use it.
If you’re struggling with a certain challenge, it can help to use a more meta build but if you want to play Talos and just use the special, then go for it. Do what’s fun for you.
reef zodiac
haelian's still pretty active
Not really
I wouldn’t call someone “pretty active” if they haven’t sent a single message in over 3 months
empty pelican
u can heal????????///
fountain chambers, at the end of each boss/start of biome, food in the shop etc
lasting consequences lowers healing by 25% each level up to 4 which completely removed healing
I assume you haven't beaten the game yet, in which case you shouldn't worry about it
spice hearth
I wouldn’t call someone “pretty active” if they haven’t sent a single message in...
I assumed when he said active youtubers, he meant youtubers actively making Hades content not active in this server
reef zodiac
Does higher rarity for Chaos grasp boons guarantee a less painful curse or is it truly meaningless
spice hearth
seems unrelated, the rarity only seems to affect the bonus
reef zodiac
<@&456908176877551658>
red coral
reef zodiac
How did they send that message if they were muted
red coral
I have… no clue…?
We have a non role based solution to muting now so we can use that in the future
chrome yoke
i havent been here in a while but i just wanted to say that the music from hades is absolutely amazing again
Oh hi pancake thats a nice coindidence
reef zodiac
Hello
brisk trail
https://youtu.be/I2oOD71qPxA
does anyone know how am I lucky in this clip?
btw, I lost both of my death defiance in this encounter cuz i wasnt paying attention so I was about to give up this attempt.
just looks kinda normal to me
you had the requirements for ME and got it
reef zodiac
Yeah doesn’t look very out of the ordinary
brisk trail
maybe a bit lucky because you had no other cores
rapid forum
to me, peak luck is when you get a duo boon in tart
and then the game reminds you of AP1
reef zodiac
This channel is full of spoilers just so you know
upbeat kiln
the entire hades section of this server is full o spoilers
upbeat kiln
👋
signal aspen
time to scoot
#h1-for-new-players is spoiler free tho
tender oyster
I have a quick build question
Right now I have the railgun and on my special ihave the artemis to make my damage Critical but I also have the Zeus legendary to firew more electricity and now i found the special replacement so my special will be electric
I should switch my special to lightning right
yeah i switched
signal aspen
You should have % damage boons on your special
tender oyster
because from Artemis I also have any damage I deal is a chance to be critical
upbeat kiln
but what % damage does artemis give you
karmic pond
Artemis > Zeus on special
Zeus best for main attack on rail Artemis is better suited to the special
tender oyster
yeah i got to styx and thats not really how i had it
but once i got the zeus legendary
I figure itll be better to have more lightning in my boons
because it was really only getting lightning from my cast
wind violet
what hammers should I look for for aspect of zeus?
i feel like the only one that makes a noticeable difference is the one that creates a shockwave when catching the shield
or i feel like that's one of the only ones geared towards aspect of zeus
wind violet
oh why?
is it better than just a normal bull rush
that's the one which fires a projectile right
gray apex
Yes
wind violet
okay
reef zodiac
what hammers should I look for for aspect of zeus?
Explosive Return > Charged Shot > Sudden Rush > Breaching Rush
I think
devout terrace
baj says wallop and pulv blow are also alright copium
brisk trail
you had the requirements for ME and got it
no
reef zodiac
baj says wallop and pulv blow are also alright copium
Yeah those are alright
brisk trail
i had the secret room curse from chaos
upbeat kiln
mextreme easures?
reef zodiac
Ok well we didn’t see that part
brisk trail
yeah thats why it was a hard question lol
reef zodiac
Also still not that lucky
devout terrace
reef zodiac
Not a huge thing
brisk trail
https://youtu.be/I2oOD71qPxA
top left
upbeat kiln
oh hell yeah