h1-discussion

[high island]

m no guy.

[plush eagle]

Also have you guys noticed how they added new illustrations and animations since release?

If you watch older gameplay, the chambers between regions were different looking

[high island]

That was during Early Access.

[reef zodiac]

That was before release I’m pretty sure

[spice hearth]

do you mean release or early access?

[plush eagle]

Ohhhh

That makes sense that it was early access

[high island]

I've been playing since Early Access.

[plush eagle]

Because they also didn’t have any hidden aspects despite having literally every aspect maxed and every keepsake 3 stars

[plush eagle]

How many runs?

[high island]

No clue lol. Something over 1.5k hours now, I think.

[plush eagle]

I really want my 100th run to be special. I want to break a record, whether time or heat, whether a weapon record or all-around record.

I think I’m only like 2 or 3 runs away

[spice hearth]

Hope you get a good run then

[plush eagle]

I could very well see myself having 1000+ hours in this game

[high island]

A world record?

Maybe your 1000th run, definitely not your 100th run lol.

[reef zodiac]

I’m getting dangerously close to that

[spice hearth]

your own record would be pretty doable though

[reef zodiac]

No offense but like… what record would really be possible?

If I wanted a world record I’d probably look at the 40 heat leaderboard and find an aspect that was neglected

[high island]

The current WR holders in Heat and speed pretty much all have done thousands of runs.

[reef zodiac]

Yeah

[spice hearth]

isn't there like a certain amount of runs where it actually started to affect run times

[reef zodiac]

Wym

[spice hearth]

I remember Haelian saying he needed a new file because his original save file was loading slower between rooms

or something like that

[reef zodiac]

Is that a real thing?

[high island]

It can affect loading times between rooms on some systems, yes.

[reef zodiac]

Also, that only would affect RTA

[high island]

Yes.

[devout terrace]

It also eats your dash inputs

[reef zodiac]

Wait what

[devout terrace]

When you finish a room the dash input doesn't go through properly

[high island]

That's why speedrunners will wipe their run data every once in awhile.

[spice hearth]

Kinda sad that you can't keep a record of the number of runs but anything to help the times i guess haha

[devout terrace]

Slowdowns become pretty clear around 1200+ attempts, but it depends on the system

[devout terrace]

You can keep your speed and heat records

[reef zodiac]

Oh man, I’m at like 750-850 on my switch

[devout terrace]

Theres a message pinned in the speedrunning discord's modded channel where you can wipe the attempts but still retain your pbs

[fast willow]

hello

i want to know if there was a secret patch to remove tidal dash from the game

because apparently poseidon cant offer it anymore

[old tapir]

What?

if that's true it's news 2 me

[plush eagle]

I meant personal record 😂

[gray apex]

start tidal dash and pray for nat zeus

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/901889174884466698.gif?size=44

[plush eagle]

I highly doubt it would impact PS5 or PC players with an SSD

[plush eagle]

Just finished a run where it was the first boon I got from a god I didn’t keepsake in

[fast willow]

then im sure lightning strike would disappear

[old tapir]

ah, this was a Jolnke ™️. my apologies, am Fool

[plush eagle]

I keepsaked lightning strike and got nat tidal dash in Tartarus my last run

[fast willow]

i just did 15 runs and never got splashdash

very fun game

[gray apex]

Just take blade dash

[fast willow]

[gray apex]

I think it's pretty decent tbh

[plush eagle]

I used to think Blade Dash was broken. Now all I can think is it’s garbage. But I could see it being useful in a hunting blades build.

[reef zodiac]

Ohhh

[gray apex]

Well hunting blades doesnt affect it

It only affects slicing shot

[plush eagle]

I won’t be breaking any WRs until I can get sub-10 wins consistently

And currently (and only very recently) a single sub-10 is my next goal

[reef zodiac]

Are you doing Eris speedruns?

[fast willow]

yessir

[plush eagle]

If I could get that on my 100th run that would be very special

But I’d also be happy with a faster sub-12 than my current PR

[reef zodiac]

Blade dash is fine, it’s just worse than Tidal

[devout terrace]

It does

It helps mitigate it somewhat until around 15-1600

[plush eagle]

To be honest, I only thought it was broken because the only other dash that I ever used was Athena at the time. That was back long before I had actually escaped.

[plush eagle]

Fascinating

[devout terrace]

Blade dash is amazing for bosses

[plush eagle]

Does this mean you have to wipe your entire save files?

[devout terrace]

Just a bit underwhelming on rooms

[plush eagle]

Or just create a new one

[devout terrace]

.

[plush eagle]

Like of the 3 or so slots

[devout terrace]

Only the attempt number itself goes away

Theres a max save on speedrun. Com too

[plush eagle]

Like, if I created a new save file from the preset slots, but kept a save file with 2000 runs, would the new save still be impacted? Do you have to delete the one with 2000 runs for it to fix the slowdown?

[devout terrace]

Nah only the old one's gonna be slow

[plush eagle]

Okay that’s good

Not that I’m anywhere near 2000 runs but it’s good to know

Also what is Hell Mode?

[old tapir]

mandatory heat

[plush eagle]

Whenever you create a new save, it gives an option

[plush eagle]

How much is mandatory?

[gray apex]

5

[plush eagle]

That’s not that bad

[old tapir]

it just puts a level in each of 5 pacts

[gray apex]

HL1 LC1 JS1 CP1 PL

[fast willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/907552484074074155/921698266318520320/unknown.png

WOW IT EXISTS

[plush eagle]

Ohhh it chooses which pacts

I didn’t realize that

[old tapir]

i heard somewhere that it's actually bad for speedrunning because of js

[gray apex]

roll for rarity

[fast willow]

thanks for giving me splash dash on the 9th boon poseidon

[gray apex]

Jury is pretty bad for speedrunning

Very noticeable

And CP isnt good either

LC can suck

[plush eagle]

And it’s not only the only boon that isn’t epic, it’s common. Of course!

[old tapir]

hell mode doesn't actually raise the difficulty cap it just means that you have those 5 pacts included before your first escape on the file. and can't turn them off to put heat in diff pacts

[devout terrace]

Hell mode is better for 45+ heat though because personal liability gets added

[reef zodiac]

Well yeah why would you speedrun on hell mode unless it’s like 50 heat

[plush eagle]

Yeah I’d never play with Hell Mode on because it seems pointless to me if you care about speed at all. It takes away your choice on how you want to obtain that heat.

But for hardcore gamers who only care about difficulty and clearing and don’t care about speed, it’s a cool addition

I think Hades has perfected difficulty to the tee

[devout terrace]

Well It chooses pretty hard pacts

[devout terrace]

Idk about that one

[reef zodiac]

Yeah lmao

JS3 Elysium is total bs

Sack RNG is stupid

[devout terrace]

High heat beyond 40 was never put into balance

[reef zodiac]

EM4 Hades is insanely unfair

[plush eagle]

You want an easy mode? There is no such thing! But there IS a God Mode, and it doesn’t actually do anything other than provide DR. You want a hard mode? There’s no such thing! But there IS a way to increase difficulty by fine-tuning exactly what makes the game more difficult. I find this system absolutely genius.

[plush eagle]

Fair

[devout terrace]

Benefits package 2 combinations can either be very easy or unreasonably difficult

[reef zodiac]

Still would definitely not say it “perfected difficulty”

[plush eagle]

JS3 Elysium is what killed by 32 heat run, but it’s not bs.

[devout terrace]

Like saviours (blue hearts regene) on Hestia

You cant deal with those

[reef zodiac]

1. Why would you use JS3 before 45 heat ever
2. Yes it is.

You can get rooms that take over 90 seconds

[devout terrace]

High JS is also gonna make you time out a lot sooner

[reef zodiac]

With ~70 flame wheels that spawn 1-by-1

[plush eagle]

I have yet to actually play beyond EM2, but isn’t it just a third phase where it’s darker? If you’re melting anyway, it shouldn’t matter if you can’t see your immediate surroundings. Unless there’s a mechanic I’m not aware of, it doesn’t seem unfair.

[reef zodiac]

JS3 Elysium is totally imbalanced

[reef zodiac]

He can throw a spear for 100 damage from literally offscreen

[gray apex]

EM4 scales horribly with other pacts

HL LC everything

[plush eagle]

Maybe I didn’t take JS3 but I did take some JS.

[reef zodiac]

Why

I never ever even touch JS until at least 40 heat

[plush eagle]

To avoid EM3 because I’m scared of golden Theseus

[reef zodiac]

You can avoid both

[plush eagle]

[reef zodiac]

Also golden Theseus is easy the issue is Asterius

[plush eagle]

Well I wouldn’t know

[devout terrace]

Asterius spinning while you're on fists or sword

[reef zodiac]

With Melee aspects especially. But you get used to it

[devout terrace]

HURTS

[plush eagle]

That’s a way I could step out of my comfort zone

[devout terrace]

the fight's fun

[reef zodiac]

I’m a fan of it

Generally

[plush eagle]

Some people have said it’s easier but idk how

They do more damage and have more health

Idk how it could be easier

[devout terrace]

Definitely not easier

[reef zodiac]

It’s not, those people are just bad at dodging Theseus spear and think it’s easier if he’s going in circles

[plush eagle]

I’m so afraid of it I haven’t even attempted it once

[devout terrace]

Theseus normally is made out of glass

[reef zodiac]

It’s not that bad

[void vigil]

i havent tried that fight many times because i used to play mostly with fists, and i dont think its particularly easy with those

[reef zodiac]

It’s not

[devout terrace]

Yeah fists have it worst

[reef zodiac]

The Asterius shockwave is a real issue

Divine dash helps a lot though

[devout terrace]

You have to dash into him while hes doing his slam, and not dash strike during that period

Or you get hit

[reef zodiac]

EM3 is so easy with shield though tbh

[devout terrace]

Really isnt

[plush eagle]

I’m bad at dodging spears because I always play super fast and am never willing to stop fighting for a spear so I generally try to keep a pillar between me and Theseus but if I’m out in the open I’m not gonna stop wailing on Asterius to dodge the spear because gotta go fast

[devout terrace]

Charged shot shield still suffers

[reef zodiac]

Eh maybe if you’re damage is lower

[plush eagle]

That’s my favorite weapon RIP

[devout terrace]

I would argue that in my 57+ heat attempts on zag shield I lost more runs to heroes than EM4

Like the problem also becomes just not timing out

[reef zodiac]

Well that’s probably because you get to them more often. But compare your win %

[plush eagle]

Guys I’m trying to find a Haelian video. It’s a SUPER easy build for any heat, whether trying to win first game or win high heat. It involved the shield or the spear, I can’t remember which. And I think zeus special? And the strategy was just to run away and spam the special and just keep running. Never get in range and just keep using the special and letting the boon (zeus I think) do the work.

I guess I didn’t give it a like because it doesn’t show up in my liked videos

[gray apex]

It's probably Chaos shield

back in the old days

[plush eagle]

I was thinking it was probably chaos shield

But for some reason I feel like there was only one shield most of the time he threw so maybe he just didn’t always bull rush?

It’s either that or it was the guan yu special build because I know I recently watched a chaos shield video and a guan yu spear video by him

And since guan yu isn’t exactly the easiest weapon to use, it probably isn’t that

[reef zodiac]

Guan Yu isn’t too hard to use imo

Maybe for a speedrun it’s hard

But just for mid heat or hitless runs it’s not too hard

[plush eagle]

Spear was my favorite weapon before I fell in love with Demeter merciful end, but I cannot for the life of me understand guan yu

Maybe it’s because I’m always “speedrunning” if you can call it that

[reef zodiac]

Just get charged skewer and only use special

[plush eagle]

And it feels slow charging up

[reef zodiac]

Don’t use the spin

It sucks

[plush eagle]

Yeah I didn’t realize how good the special was until I saw that video

I’m going to revisit guan yu for that reason

[reef zodiac]

Just get heartbreak flourish and spam special from a distance

[plush eagle]

Pretty sure that’s what the build was in that video now that I think about it

[reef zodiac]

Or get serrated point. It’s not as good and also less safe but it can still work

[plush eagle]

So, is heartbreak the best scaled percent damage boon?

[reef zodiac]

Yes

[brisk trail]

hello, I accept spoilers. What are the chtonic keys for except unlocking weapons, reseting mirror?

[plush eagle]

Like I always take her cast when I’m playing Hera unless I want to play trippy

[reef zodiac]

For rapid hitting weapons, Artemis is better though. Like Chiron special

[plush eagle]

Because it feels like the most damage

[gray apex]

If you get a key during a run you get +1 roll for the last mirror upgrade

[reef zodiac]

Crush shot Hera is meta, yes

[brisk trail]

+1 roll?

[plush eagle]

Yeah I feel like arty and dio are better for fast hits

[gray apex]

Yes, Fated Authority/Persuasion allow you to reroll door rewards and boons/wells respectively, and they require rolls, keys give you 1 more roll to use

[brisk trail]

and how to unlock the hidden aspects too?

[plush eagle]

You need to unlock the ability to reroll first, then you need to unlock the ability to get a reroll from keys. Just keep playing man.

[brisk trail]

so the rock thingy?

[gray apex]

You can read the pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion

[brisk trail]

the rock thingy is for reroll right

[gray apex]

Yea

[plush eagle]

The dice?

[gray apex]

Well it's a dice

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841266682072530956/921703831170084904/Discord_c6kRs5N0Ig.png

[plush eagle]

Also, keys are useful at the vendor

[brisk trail]

yeah the rock l9l

lol

thanks.

[plush eagle]

You can trade 10 keys for a nectar I believe

Or 5 for a nectar and 10 nectars for a Diamond?

Something like that

Idk I always trade gemstones for keys and keys for nectar and nectar for diamonds and diamonds for ambrosia and ambrosia for titan’s blood

[reef zodiac]

10

[plush eagle]

It’s lazy and boring but I just want more+better aspects

[brisk trail]

is there any other uses for the ambrosia

[reef zodiac]

Yes. You need 10 to max out a companion

[plush eagle]

Other than titan’s blood? Gifting

[brisk trail]

is it worth more than a nectar?

[plush eagle]

By a lot

[reef zodiac]

It’s worth 20 nectar

[plush eagle]

^

That’s the conversion rate

20 nectar = 1 ambrosia

[brisk trail]

bruh

now I know

[plush eagle]

Alright it’s 2 AM and it’s 2 hours earlier than I’m used to so maybe I should go to bed

😂

[gray apex]

Do a run first

[plush eagle]

Ain’t no way you read that whole message before thumbing up

That was instant

[reef zodiac]

You can check these conversions by talking to the wretched broker

[plush eagle]

Stop it, voice in my head. You’re a bad influence.

[reef zodiac]

That boon is pretty good

[gray apex]

It's just 1 run couldn't take that long

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/835377117616668692.gif?size=96

[plush eagle]

Yeah, I just got a sub 12. Surely it’ll only take like 15 minutes right?

Tfw I take a minute every pause or boon

[reef zodiac]

“Man I’m tired. I’ll just do a few hitless more attempts until I at least get to Styx once”

[devout terrace]

Styx unironically the hardest part lol

So many projectile fellas+ratsoclock

[reef zodiac]

By far

Rats are by far the hardest part

Have you done a hitless run?

[devout terrace]

I have

[gray apex]

Angel done a hitless EM4

[devout terrace]

Lmao

I wont

I have a 1 hit hell mode

Tiny rat in the last chamber said no

That h u r t

[reef zodiac]

With or without things like deflect and invincible calls

[devout terrace]

Without

[reef zodiac]

Very nice

I’ve gotten very close

But after I do it, my next step would probably be mirrorless hitless

at least in terms of hitless runs

Either that or doing it on a different aspect

[gray apex]

Do it on talos

[reef zodiac]

No

[gray apex]

Sounds fun

[reef zodiac]

That would just not be fun

[gray apex]

[reef zodiac]

Most rooms would just be using special to very slowly kill them. At least until I got a lot better with it

I’d probably do Guan Yu after Hestia. Then maybe Chiron

[gray apex]

I still have one more thing on my to-do list

[reef zodiac]

Hitless dashless?

[gray apex]

Which is EM4 50 Heat with RI3 no shields allowed

Gonna be a good one

[reef zodiac]

Why

[gray apex]

Why not

[reef zodiac]

Do hitless dashless

[gray apex]

I’ll leave that to you

[reef zodiac]

No thanks

[gray apex]

Aw

Idk how you pass such a great suggestion

[reef zodiac]

I might make a bounty on challenge run server that I’m on. I’m considering it

I really want to know if it’s possible

[gray apex]

What is it

[wary mural]

well i had a good start in my run and then i get ghost keyed in the lava

[gray apex]

Pog lava bath

[empty pelican]

just hit 15:27 IGT, I'm not that into speedrunning nor do I plan to do it but im proud of that

I want to try get sub 15

[rapid forum]

ayyy gj

[sonic mango]

might be impossible without shield

due to hades' wave skull things

among other things

[reef zodiac]

Well blocking isn’t allowed for this hitless run

[reef zodiac]

Move speed

[sonic mango]

dont they cover the whole arena?

[reef zodiac]

Do they?

Either way, just kill then before they explode

However I just realized

Transition to Hades phase 2

I’m pretty sure that wave does cover the whole arena

Which is… an issue

However………

it is not unavoidable

I’ll leave it to the player to figure out how they choose to avoid it, but there are a few ways that are still within the rules of the challenge

[devout terrace]

they do, same with asterius's and theseus's wave

you have to dash over them

[reef zodiac]

They are avoidable

You just might need to use a call or summon

Also you can definitely just kill skulls before they explode

[gray apex]

Sounds like pain

[reef zodiac]

Just have perfect timing

[gray apex]

I guess you can deny phase 2 shockwave with meg

[reef zodiac]

Wait wym

Oh yeah yeah

Exactly

[gray apex]

When he resurrects

That’s probably the most consistent way

[reef zodiac]

Yeah

You can do the same for champions

[gray apex]

Or get Area call the best call

[reef zodiac]

Not allowed for the challenge

Ares, Athena, and Poseidon calls are banned

[gray apex]

Champions could be a pain if they do it more than 1 time

[reef zodiac]

Yeah

Not impossible, but definitely hard

Luckily you’ll be using Hestia so it should be too bad

Pretty quick fight

[runic parrot]

which of the dashes is the worst one out of them d'you think

[devout terrace]

Dio

[reef zodiac]

No way

Mistral

Drunken dash has utility

It’s bad, but not useless

[runic parrot]

you can say that about all of them lol

but both are abysmal imo

[reef zodiac]

No you can’t

[devout terrace]

Mistral dash can open killing freeze

[runic parrot]

however dio's is worse for me probably, but thats just preference i think

drunken dash leaves behind the status effect where you left the dash right

[reef zodiac]

Drunken Dash is honestly pretty decent for DC2 on some slower weapons

Mistral dash is an embarrassment

[runic parrot]

true

it is direct damage (i.e. it can deal damage without any t2 boons) but i think i am just biased towards demeter haha

[rapid forum]

sure it does damage

but I reckon it tickles even the smallest enemy

[gray apex]

I would agree Dio is the worst dash in most scenarios

[reef zodiac]

I’d say it’s technically probably a bit worse than mistral in more scenarios than not. However, they’re both so bad in most scenarios anyway. At least Drunken Dash has places where it’s decent where mistral is at best the 2nd to worst pick

[full nexus]

It ain't that bad, however for no reason it gets the first pom denied

Non sense

[reef zodiac]

Wait wym

[full nexus]

+1 only instead of +2

[reef zodiac]

Well +2 would double the damage of a common drunken dash

[full nexus]

Denying the saying "First pom is the most important"

[reef zodiac]

Technically it still is

Going from 2 to 3 is a bigger difference than 3 to 4

[full nexus]

Still better than mistral anyway

Good at dealing with DC, applies a status efficiently. Downside being that you don't wanna play other hangover source

[rapid forum]

hmmmmm

low tolerance dash run

I reckon I'd just kill the enemies with the aphro boon lol

[reef zodiac]

I agree

It’s also great at procing Bad Influence

Which is better than mistral procing killing freeze

[steep comet]

are the achievements for hades the same on epic and steam?

[lone kernel]

Once the chamber ends you can suspend it and resume next time from same room

Pause game, select quit. It’ll say “you’ll be able to continue from this chamber” and it’ll take you back to Home Screen

then you can quit the game safely and continue run later

Np

[reef zodiac]

Why would you need to purposely lose a good run?

[lone kernel]

Real life and not knowing that

[reef zodiac]

Real life?

Never heard of it

[lone kernel]

Try it sometime

You may like it

[reef zodiac]

Doubt

[lone kernel]

I forgot how nice not having customs on was

[reef zodiac]

I’ll just go back to grinding miserable DS3 SL1 fights instead

[lone kernel]

Then sold lightning rod anyway

[lone kernel]

You just got a ps5, that ps plus on demand library has a bunch of great games on that, try that rather than something that you consider miserable, just a thought

[reef zodiac]

Hmmmmm

but if I beat Demon Prince which I think is an insanely bad boss, and then Halflight who is inexplicably worse, then I can fight Gael who is really fun except will also take like 7 minutes on SL1 which would definitely make him less fun

[lone kernel]

Whatever makes you happy fam

[plush eagle]

Good morning

[plush eagle]

The skulls do not, but phase 2 transition does.

[sonic mango]

i see, then yeah

[plush eagle]

Or dodge chance via lambent plume

[sonic mango]

that difficult things a bit for that challenge

[plush eagle]

All you’d need is an invulnerability call

[sonic mango]

rng on the last stretch

[reef zodiac]

Banned by the rules of the challenge

[reef zodiac]

Also banned

[plush eagle]

I must not have scrolled back far enough but I didn’t see that rule

I only saw “no dodge, no block, no hit”

[reef zodiac]

That’s part of “hitless” at least my personal hitless rules

[reef zodiac]

Well dodge chance with plume is dodge, first of all

[sonic mango]

no dash*

wasnt it no dash?

[reef zodiac]

And it’s also no deflect and no invincibility call

Yes and no dash

[sonic mango]

i really dont think its viable

[plush eagle]

Rip I meant to say dash not dodge

Well then it’s impossible

[reef zodiac]

I bet it’s possible, but you might need move speed

[reef zodiac]

No

[sonic mango]

you cant dodge undodgeable waves

so you lose

[reef zodiac]

Calls give you a few I-frames

Even Zeus call

You’re wrong

[plush eagle]

You can’t avoid phase 2 transition without blocking, dashing, dodging, or invulnerability

[reef zodiac]

Wrong

You can summon

[plush eagle]

Wait seriously?

[sonic mango]

huh.

[reef zodiac]

Or you can i-frame with a legal call

[plush eagle]

Ohhhhh

Because of calling the God and them responding

The little dialogue

[reef zodiac]

No that’s only for full calls

[plush eagle]

Which would mean you probably need to save up your max call so you get the dialogue

[sonic mango]

i doubt its possible til i see it tbh

[plush eagle]

Wait so there’s iframes on regular calls too?

[reef zodiac]

Yes

[reef zodiac]

It literally is.

[plush eagle]

How many iframes are we talking? Because that wave is pretty thicc

[reef zodiac]

Enough

But again, you can summon

Which just deletes the wave entirely

[plush eagle]

Yeah the summon would be easier

Imma need to see a demonstration of call iframes though

I wonder if people have done the research on it in depth

To learn exactly how many iframes each call has and that way you could know if some have more iframes than others and by how much

This is news to me. I had no idea calls gave iframes

But isn’t abusing iframes still just using invulnerability?

I guess you can technically allow it since it’s only a few frames so it takes skill

But if you negate all invulnerability then it’s literally impossible to do because calls and summons would be banned

[lone kernel]

It’s essentially a perfect party type mechanic - if you do it perfect you’ll dodge but otherwise you worn

Won’t

[reef zodiac]

I promise it’s substantial

[reef zodiac]

Yes that’s the point

[sonic mango]

that just sounds plain unfun to play imo
but sounds fun to watch

[devout terrace]

-Hades

[sonic mango]

idk i have more fun spamming athena's divine dashes and beating shtuff up with no mercy

[reef zodiac]

exactly

[somber wasp]

I really wish that there was an easy way to start a new escape attempt besides just standing there and purposefully dying. Really annoying that "giving up" just resets the current run

[reef zodiac]

are you on PC?

[somber wasp]

yes

[reef zodiac]

You could get a mod to add a button to insta kill Zagreus

[somber wasp]

Might be useful lol. Link?

[reef zodiac]

I don’t have a link

I just know that it exists

Could ask the modding server

[somber wasp]

Ah fair, I'll do some research thanks

[devout terrace]

modpack's on speedrun.com's resources page

you'II need to enable quick reset manually

[lone kernel]

Speedrun modpack

basically just eliminates getting screwed by RNG and guarantees patty so you won’t die to dad for sure on high heat lol

[marble badge]

does not guarantee patty

[devout terrace]

If only

[high island]

It does if you quick-reset every time you don't see him. Guaranteed every win saw Patroclus.

[lone kernel]

Oh it doesnt? Im 6 of 6

Since starting modded file

[devout terrace]

Lol

Its still a 50% chance

I just died to dad on 51 luci because I didn't have patty

[reef zodiac]

Parry is busted

[signal aspen]

parry is indeed busted

[devout terrace]

[full nexus]

Yeah especially with the riposte and the hornet ring

[north mulch]

I need clarification as I’m trying to unlock the Aspect of Lucifer. Does unlocking the Aspects with Titan Blood count towards the total needed to get the message from Zeus or is it purely the upgrades?

[real wadi]

Unlocking counts

[north mulch]

Oh word

Das good

[real wadi]

Yeah

[reef zodiac]

Lmao I saw this and I literally did a double take because I thought I was in the wrong server

Then I realized that I just mistyped my message

[north mulch]

So wait

Having the zagreus aspect leveled up once and then having the other aspect at level 2 counts as 5 titan blood right?

[devout terrace]

zag aspects dont count towards it

[north mulch]

Oh

Noted

Thank for telling me that before I wasted alot of time on it

[devout terrace]

I lied

Story pins

Its any rail aspects

[north mulch]

Well I got it now anyway so we cool

[last girder]

What’s the average number of runs required for the first finish

[chrome wharf]

I've heard anywhere from 20s to 100s

so the average is like, 40s??

[last girder]

I’m definitely going to fall in the 100s

Fml

[chrome wharf]

obligatory "god mode can help you if you want"

[last girder]

It’s on 😂

[chrome wharf]

Well you'll get there soon

[last girder]

Only 26% or so

Great game though, fantastic in short bursts

Some chambers feel like a touhou game

[reef zodiac]

Doesn’t matter. Don’t think about it. Everyone progresses at their own pace

[last girder]

True

[high island]

People also have vastly different background.

Like, I've seen players who play a lot of other roguelikes get their first clear very fast. That's just kinda natural, I guess.

Also some people start asking for help early, some people try to figure out everything on their own at least for their first win.

If an experienced player guides you through a build during a run, it's gonna be a lot easier than if you figure things out on your own since you can just focus on combat and your build isn't gonna hold you back.

[last girder]

I’m definitely the looks at three options… oh this sounds cool, selects boon

[real wadi]

i didn't join the server until my first clear, that was better for me

[lone kernel]

That’s how it’s supposed to go

[kindred silo]

Fun > Progress

[high island]

No fun, only win.

[kindred silo]

• Speedrunners, probably

With Gods Legacy, what are the chances for Hermes to offer an Epic boon? I recall him having less chance with rarity

[high island]

No, me.

[kindred silo]

Close enough

[high island]

3%.

[kindred silo]

Oh jeez. That's... Hoolord.

[high island]

6% for rare.

So it's a 9% chance to be rare or better.

1% for legendary if you meet the requirements.

That's why Yarn of Ariadne and Refreshing Nectar are so very valuable.

And also why Gods' Pride is the go-to pick for most players in most builds.

[kindred silo]

B-but funny duoboons... :c

But yea that seems reasonable

But if you're looking for Hermes' legendary and that's it, Legacy would be better I assume

[high island]

Yeah.

And Lambent Plume because to unlock the legendary right away.

[kindred silo]

Alright, cool cool

Thanks <3

[high island]

Favor boons from Master Chaos, Yarns of Ariadne, and Refreshing Nectar will also help your odds.

[kindred silo]

Hey Nyaa if you don't mind me asking, how long have you played Hades for?

[last girder]

I can’t get past Medusa. 🥲

Or whatever the mini-boss(?) is in the second biome

[high island]

When did I start or for how many hours?

[kindred silo]

Both, if you don't mind

[north mulch]

Playing Crush Hera is making me do more thinking then I probably should

[high island]

I started playing Dec 25, 2019, and I have 1,207.6 hours in the game on Steam.

[high island]

That's natural. Gotta keep track of how many Casts you need to load for different enemies.

Did you remap your Cast button for the aspect if you're playing on pad? That'll help a lot.

Usually LB/L1.

[north mulch]

I might have to

But it’s fun

[high island]

Yeah, pretty much all the top Hera players who play on pad remap their Cast button when they play the aspect.

Can't really load your Casts while charging your Attack with default controls.

[north mulch]

I like keep track mentally of how many Casts I need for each enemy

[high island]

Yeah. With more experience, it'll become a lot easier because you'll notice quickly when you pass the threshold for this or that type of enemy to kill them with 1 less Cast.

[north mulch]

Yep it’s thought provoking

The bone hydra was incredibly easy

[lone kernel]

You got

for Christmas

[lapis shore]

Just curious, I seem to have found a musical enigma in the Scourge of the Furies track. If anyone knows anything about music, when the guitar hits the low note jam around a minute or so into the song, it seems impossible for it to be that low since the song is in standard tuning. And these low notes do not sound possible to do in standard tuning, could be 2 guitars I guess. But not sure if i'm missing anything about it

[high island]

Yes, from my best friend.

[lone kernel]

Baller

[versed mason]

aphrodite is currently balling

[finite lodge]

Yes she is.

[bleak karma]

aphrodite will never be balling

no way

[feral belfry]

Team Arty because she rejects god worship norms

[north mulch]

What are the odds that Zeus and Athena would make a good Aspect of Zeus build

[versed mason]

zeus special is p funny

on da disc

it already eats projectiles so adding deflect to the special would be limiting your damage imo

[high island]

Divine Flourish is pretty amazing tbh. Divine Strike is decent, too, and Divine Dash of course is amazing. Lighting Strike kinda sucks on the aspect, but Thunder Flourish can be pretty good.

So if you want to combine them, probably Divine Strike + Thunder Flourish or Thunder Flourish + Divine Dash make the most sense.

But there's no inherent synergy except they're just both good options.

Maybe Thunder Flourish + Phalanx Shot for Lightning Phalanx makes sense, but I've no experience with that on Zeus Aspect.

Could be hard to keep track of your Casts on top of your Special, but could also be very effective potentially.

Thunder Flourish and Static Discharge are kind of greedy for poms, though, and so is Lighting Phalanx. So... you might end up not getting the most out of either and would be better off without the Cast. I could see that happening.

But on the other hand, they all have excellent pom scaling, so that could be good.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wind violet]

help what do i do with rama this feels so bad

do i just spam special and then do a few powershots?

i see so many things saying it's good but i'm not sure how to utilize it

[marble badge]

mark as much as you can with one or two specials, charge just enough to one-shot whatever you're fighting which might very well just be a powershot
be careful with your movement and positioning and don't overcommit to charging up your powershots if you're gonna get hit out of it
rama gets a significant chunk of its attack scaling from hammers to be on the lookout for combos like twin shot/triple shot + perfect shot/point-blank shot
like every other bow, primarily use dash-strikes and avoid using the standing attack shots

watch some videos of top-level rama players using it for inspiration

[wind violet]

okay, thank you!

[marble badge]

if you've got any more specific questions about rama or want specific videos feel free to ask or ping

[high island]

Plenty of good Rama videos on the high heat leaderboard that's pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies if you want to take a look.

[north mulch]

I wanna play aspect of hera once again but I would rather not play Crush Hera once again, are there any similarly potent builds for Hera?

[modern garnet]

Gift thanatos

He hangs out in the house pretty rarely, nearish to achilles

[high island]

Similarly strong? No. Other builds that can be good? Yes.

Phalanx Shot is a popular variant for high heat.

[north mulch]

Noted

[high island]

Trippy Flare with Stygian Soul can be effective but relies a lot on getting +1 ammo from Master Chaos.

[north mulch]

I’ve seen firsthand the INSANE capabilities that Crush Hera has

[high island]

Those three are pretty much the strongest.

Flood Shot to try to get Mirage Shot asap can work, I guess.

[north mulch]

Crush Rama while broken can be a bit

Monotonous

[high island]

How so?

[north mulch]

Because I just like go through the motions

[high island]

The others don't really play any different tbh.

[north mulch]

I have done like 10 in a row

I know

It’s nice to have other primary effects

[high island]

Well, you can always up the Heat to make things more difficult and engaging.

[north mulch]

Usually I end up going Aphrodite/Athena

[high island]

Or try to beat your PB times.

[north mulch]

But it’s going to be nice to change it

[high island]

No.

Every run should start with the .

It's the correct way to play the game.

[north mulch]

Now when I’m grinding for Titan Blood and such I know where to go

[twilit flint]

Nah, every run should start with the coin purse, then whatever god keepsake you need, then acorn for the last two

[north mulch]

I shall take that into account when I exist

I am just a figment of your imagination

[calm zenith]

He will appear sometimes

He is mysterious like that

He is hmm

From the blood fountain you resurrect from

Go up, left, down

To the other side of the building

[dusky wedge]

Quick question, I know lightning bolts have an internal cooldown, but chain lightnings have an internal cooldown as well, right?

[calm zenith]

That is where he hangs out

I believe so yeah

I believe it is just a cooldown on Zeus effects and it is the same timer

[dusky wedge]

0.2s?

[calm zenith]

To prevent stuff like Zeus call from producing infinite lightning

[dusky wedge]

Or 0.5s?

[calm zenith]

Yeah

0.2 iirc

[dusky wedge]

I see

[calm zenith]

I also find that Thanatos usually appears after you encounter him in a run

Cant confirm its related

[dusky wedge]

I wonder if it’s a balancing patch or the game itself cannot handle that many lightning effects in the first place

[calm zenith]

But he hangs out there. If you get a high relationship with him, you can buy stuff for that area

Both I think

Because if it had no cooldown then Zeus call would just produce infinite bolts I think

Maybe bolts per frame

Idk

Its it's an area of effect set to produce bolts of x damage

[dusky wedge]

On Thanatos, he usually does hang out in his area in the house after you find him in a run, but just sometimes, rarely, he doesn’t

[calm zenith]

Yeah

He is a bit hidden but if you just always check there he should be there

Not not, he is speaking with someone

Usually Nyx, Hades, Hypnos, and Meg

Often you cant speak with him then

Be will just disappear

[vague sedge]

I've unlocked every other hidden aspect, have more than 5 titan blood used in upgrading exagryph but zeus still won't say the words 😭
he doesn't even have any dialogue most of the time i get a boon from him

[dusky wedge]

It do be like that

[vague sedge]

ok he FINALLYU

[real wadi]

I got the epilogue!

Also, almost lost my winstreak of 50 to em hades, i got too confident because i had a better build last time

[inner sinew]

is there a way to where i can see sisyphus more often or is it random chance?

[narrow hemlock]

npc rooms are random iirc

[versed mason]

contractor once you get that, or for trading

[old tapir]

omg. i've always played on infernal soul, but this run i was grinding legendaries, and one of the legendaries I needed was the stygian soul exclusive hermes legendary, and after I got it and the artemis legendary (which I also needed for the prophecy) my stygian soul build became insanely op (poseidon cast bc I was also trying to get his legendary)

i just killed theseus in like 30 seconds, he had 7 casts lodged in him upon death and this was on the lowest level of stygian

gotta put some more darkness in stygian for builds like these

[lone kernel]

arty legendary and stygian peak gaming

[versed mason]

i use stygian cause i dont like thinking

[old tapir]

dad at house: you made a hollow mockery of theseus

what's the time threshold for this dialogue?

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO my first legendary fish!!!! I got it by finding a seed with a first room fish point then resetting until I was able to get a legendary from it

This will let me do the Queen's Plan prophecy soon I believe; I have 5 olympian bonds already and after I talk to poseidon later this run I should be able to ambrosia him

[reef zodiac]

That’s so much work

You could also just wait until it bobs 3 times and then insta-click on the 4th bob

[old tapir]

nah it only took 2 resets for me to get a perfect catch and rng to give me a legendary

[reef zodiac]

Still

You can just fish normally

And do this trick

[old tapir]

i've gotten perfect catches from that trick before, but rng has always given me plain rare fish from it

[reef zodiac]

I switched from Switch to PS5 and the hardest thing to adjust to is the analog triggers. On switch I would just map reload/cast on Beo to L2 (or ZL). But on PS5, with the analog triggers, this doesn’t really work. Due to the way analog triggers work, I have to press nearly all the way down on the button for the input to go through. This leads to a built-in delay on button like reload. And it also forces me to 100% release the button or else my next input doesn’t go through. Which just doesn’t work at all for an input like that. Do I just need to get used to it or are inputs like this generally unviable for analog triggers? It’s very annoying to be forced to rebind all fast inputs to bumpers, and even slower inputs like calls and summons still feel wrong on analog triggers. I really really do not like them and I want to know if I’ll get used to them or if this is just how it is

[bright comet]

Yoooo

So apparently if you have an effect that damages you on cast or whatever

It doesn't kill you if you would take lethal damage

Combined with strong drink that's insane

And I got fountain chamber right after using all my health too so fountain chambers are next level idea now

[high island]

Yeah, Master Chaos's curses only bring you down to 1 HP, they won't kill you.

Well, except for Inferno Bombs. Those will kill you.

[uncut dagger]

Hades usually retails for $20 on a sale, right? I'm gonna get it for my brother

[high island]

Dunno US prices, but probably. Pretty sure it's 20 EUR here, so usually it'd be 20 USD.

[uncut dagger]

oh yeah US prices

[brisk trail]

hello, for the magnet fists, is special or attack stronger to be spammed?

[full nexus]

The attack, the special is not meant to be your damage source

[south sapphire]

Hades nuts

[wary mural]

fit in your mouth

[vague sedge]

damn

[wary mural]

maybe you will use it

[reef zodiac]

I mean it’s literally the best summon so

[wary mural]

then use it

[high island]

There are Meg setups for different bosses and minibosses. I'd suggest learning them, it can make things a lot easier. And you'll very naturally end up using all of your summons in a run by just using the setups.

For example, against Theseus and Asterius just tap up on your keyboard or d-pad when the fight starts, and then immediately summon. She'll hit both of them every time.

[lone kernel]

Mod your controller, ez

Or try L1 rather than L2

[reef zodiac]

Yeah I’m forced to remap every important input that’s usually on triggers. Because they don’t work

But I only have so many bumpers

[lone kernel]

Back button to load casts is peak gaming

[high island]

I've yet to play on PS5, but I play on PC with my DualSense with no issues using the triggers.

[reef zodiac]

I could mod it to have digital triggers? Wouldn’t I just need a different controller

[lone kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/760342037962031116/921149415601868870/83FEDDD2-68C1-4547-99C3-678E4F76D77E.jpg

[reef zodiac]

The inputs go through slower than on a switch controller, since I have to fully press down an analog button as opposed to a digital one

[lone kernel]

There are trigger kits available, I didn’t get them

[high island]

No idea if the trigger sensitivity is set different on PS5.

[lone kernel]

I use a dualsense on pc too, it’s not noticeably worse on triggers than the switch but I believe it would be on ps5

[reef zodiac]

It also just feels so much worse

[lone kernel]

That’s muscle memory talking

[reef zodiac]

I don’t want to forcefully pull down a button that has resistance, and then fully unpress it before I’m able to press it again. I want to lightly press it quickly.

[high island]

If Bruce Lee can do a one-inch punch, you can pull your triggers a little faster.

[reef zodiac]

Try this

See how many times you can press L1 in 10 seconds

Then see how many times you can press L2 in 10 seconds

Keep in mind that if you don’t completely unpress L2, the next input will be completely ignored

[high island]

If you have issues with the trigger sensitivity, you can send the devs feedback through their contact form.

[lone kernel]

eXtremeRate Clicky Hair Trigger Kit for PS5 Controller Shoulder Buttons, Custom Flashshot Trigger Stop Flex Cable for PS5 Controller CFI-ZCT1 (BDM-010) - Controller NOT Included https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0933LD2SJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_8XP49SY8MZ47YT5M3BRJ

[high island]

https://www.supergiantgames.com/contact/

[reef zodiac]

It’s less specific to the game and more just how analog triggers work in general

[lone kernel]

If you wanna void your warranty for $15

that part solves your problem

And @high island dualsense on ps5 is way more touchy when used on a ps5 rather than a pc

[high island]

It's not a hardware issue. They can set it to hair trigger sensitivity if they wanted to.

[lone kernel]

Possibly because “playstation configuration” but it still reads as an xbox controller for me on steam at least

[reef zodiac]

Yes, but even then it feels very wrong to barely touch the trigger every time I use it, because I don’t get physical feedback that the button has been pushed.

[lone kernel]

(Note pancake if you do install that part it will mess up the adaptive trigger resistance on ps5 games so this is at your own risk!)

[high island]

I mean if you don't think triggers are good for actions you want to repeat rapidly like Cast... don't map functions like Cast to triggers.

[reef zodiac]

I don’t.

They’re also not good for call. Or reload. Or summon.

They are actually good for nothing in a lot of games

Unfortunately I have to map call and summon to triggers because it’s better than D-Pad

[lone kernel]

You only need one click tho for those is her point I think

Inability to mash that button is not a real issue since you don’t need to call ten times in a second

L1 cast should feel just like switch

[reef zodiac]

Yeah, L1 cast is what I use.

[lone kernel]

And d pad anything is just asking for trouble lol

take apart your controller it’ll make you better at hades

[high island]

I can tell you that in fighting games using triggers instead of buttons for an input has virtually zero effect on what kind of things I can react to.

[reef zodiac]

But it’s a good deal harder to call instantly to avoid attacks

I guess I just need to get used to them

They just feel so so bad to use

[lone kernel]

https://www.gfinityesports.com/console-news/ps5-adaptive-triggers-how-to-turn-off-adaptive-triggers-console-news/

do that

see if that helps

[high island]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[reef zodiac]

It’s a different thing. That’s for adaptive triggers which is a feature used by some games

That adds resistance to the triggers

[lone kernel]

yeah guess you gotta take apart your controller then

[reef zodiac]

Guess I gotta give up then

[high island]

I think it's by far the best controller Sony has designed and the triggers feel good and snappy in any game I've played.

[reef zodiac]

I just hate analog triggers with a passion

I don’t play any games that benefit from them so they’re purely a deficit for me

[high island]

I can see the passion, yes.

[reef zodiac]

But I know some games rely on them

[lone kernel]

Returnal

or like, most pew pew games lol

And the dualsense is only a year old, they’re gonna keep developing stuff with analog trigger in mind

[reef zodiac]

Well analog triggers have been around forever

They’re just not on the switch

[lone kernel]

Point stands

They’ll be the standard in pretty much whatever ps5 games u get

And also the jump to 60fps is throwing you off a little - you may not notice but your brain did

[reef zodiac]

Nah a lot of switch games run in 60fps

[reef zodiac]

Really? Because I see a lot of Melee players say that they hate analog triggers
(Yes I know you may not count Melee as a fighting game. That isn’t the point)

[high island]

A lot of players complain about things without zero evidence it actually affects their performance.

[reef zodiac]

“Since the shoulder buttons are so long, this actually produces physical lag because a human has to press the button all the way down as opposed to an opponent that just has to tap a button which is quicker”

[lone kernel]

mod your controller

ez

Deadass

You can literally pay money and follow along with a YouTube video to solve this problem for yourself

The trigger part is $15

[high island]

First of all, they're generally set to almost hair trigger sensitivity in fighting games. Second, the difference in input speed is virtually meaningless. It's far too small to matter.

Anyway.

[lone kernel]

plus voiding your warranty

[high island]

Hades players will complain about BP2 combos that don't even exist in the game.

[lone kernel]

damn speeder vermin

Didn’t get the hestia boon I wanted

[high island]

I remember doing some BP2 quizzes about which BP2 combos were legal and like almost nobody got the answers right lol.

[lone kernel]

Damage control cloner skulls are real tho

[fast willow]

wait so were the speeder bruiser chariots just a nightmare that i dreamt up then

[empty pelican]

finally started the epilogue that took way longer than it should have

[reef zodiac]

They should not be. For sure.

[reef zodiac]

No I’m 99% sure speeder bruiser is real

[high island]

Lol

[reef zodiac]

Speeder seeker isn’t though

[reef zodiac]

Is it not?

[high island]

m not saying anything.

I won't answer any BP2 questions.

[reef zodiac]

Ok… where can I find the possible combos

[high island]

[lone kernel]

BP3 speeder cloner vermin

or Charon

Have 7 charons shooting at you

[reef zodiac]

BP3 giving bonuses to bosses for 4 heat…

No

That would be a terrible idea

Please nobody make that mod

speeder bruiser EM4

[lone kernel]

Can you get clones and lasers

[high island]

Can you?

[lone kernel]

I have no idea, typically when I have obscure specific hades questions my plan is as follows: 1. Fail to google the answer 2. Ask nyaanyaa

all part of the plan

🐊

[reef zodiac]

I don’t think so

[chrome reef]

Guys

Guys

Guys

Sweet Nectar or Exclusive Access

[reef zodiac]

I mean it obviously depends on a lot of things

But if you want the short answer

Sweet Nectar unless you’re in Tartarus

[chrome reef]

Alrught

Sweet Nectar it is

[high island]

lol

[reef zodiac]

Either tell me what’s possible or don’t ping me about it

[high island]

No.

[lone kernel]

[high island]

I bet if you asked some of the devs, they wouldn't know the answer to that either.

[fast willow]

if the devs dont know you cant expect the average player to know

[marble badge]

maybe they won't know off the top of their head but they can figure it out pretty quickly

[high island]

Yeah.

Who knows how many internal builds with different combos allowed and banned they went through anyway.

[lone kernel]

tbf nyayyana is not the average player

Nyaanyaa

[fast willow]

but i wasnt referring to nyaanyaa with that

clearly she knows the answer

[high island]

What if I don't.

[fast willow]

[devout terrace]

[high island]

You'd never know.

Maybe the answer is Cloner Linker is a legal combo.

But also an illegal combo.

Maybe it's both.

[somber wasp]

Do I need to do something special to forge bond with hermes? He's the only one I don't have

[mint coral]

use his keepsake at 3 stars, talk to him

[narrow hemlock]

worth noting hermes needs to have commented on his keepsake previously before he'll remark on it being fully leveled

and as always, if you don't get the dialogue you need right away, keep trying

[somber wasp]

Ah ok, didn't realize I needed his keepsake. Thanks

[lone kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-dodge-dragon-ball-z-gif-10601615

plume gaming

[lone snow]

i'm confused on how to get the "war god's bloodlust" prophecy

i have far more than 10k kills, but the prophecy hasn't shown up yet

[lone kernel]

Keep killing dudes, sooner or later ares will mention it. You can buy the thing from the contractor to check how many dudes you’ve killed (I forget the name but it’s in bedroom tab)

[lone snow]

yes, i have the thing from the contractor

sitting at 20k kills i believe

just keep talking to ares then?

[lone kernel]

Yup

[oak ibex]

I laughed at this harder than I should have
https://twitter.com/hekxate/status/1472440960961310722?s=20

ghost 😳 (@hekxate)

hades and fire emblem three houses need to have a crossover so that thanatos can teach 17 year old dimitri how to part his hair

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[versed mason]

anywhere i can find dionysus' full god gauge lines? they're not on the quote page on the wiki :(

[narrow hemlock]

uhm i can look for them later when i have a chance maybe. the quote pages are mostly people adding to them as they come across dialogue and none are complete

i think they may be subtitles honestly but i havent looked in quite a while

[high island]

@narrow hemlock I was just about to ping you for that when I saw you typing.

[narrow hemlock]

hi

i was pinged elsewhere so i was briefly checking around

[high island]

You probably have an AI that detects and notifies you when somebody asks for dialogue.

[versed mason]

guess I'll just have to get a bunch of his calls going to get them

im just wondering cause i remember loving the lines

[high island]

Hades Dialogue Surveillance Drone Mk. III.

[versed mason]

not to flex but i did get this like right as i got the 10k prophecy, (i didnt get it till like 20k kills lol cause i hadnt gifted anything to the gods other than once for keepsakes)

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/854479132376694797/922208103175426129/unknown.png?width=1191&height=670

[lone kernel]

actually tho

Raphael and Eurydice

[calm zenith]

I got the 10k thing at like 20k too yeah

You should get it soon. It's about dialogue progress too

Part of Hades is progressing through long God dialogue chains

You may even want to avoid doing tasks, sometimes

Eg if you are trying to get the 10k kills dialogue for his heart, dont speak to Nyx for him yet

I dont believe the two are related

That will keep those new dialogues out of the pool

Dont progress stuff that would reconnect Achilles and Patrocles if you are trying to unlock Guan Yu quick

[ember flume]

You have been infected. You must now change your status to [ DM me the word "Tomato"]. The infection shall spread silently.

The only rules are 1: It lasts for only 3 weeks and 2: To not spoil the game for others by telling people what saying tomato does.

[devout terrace]

[high island]

That's supposed to go into your status only, not in a random channel, you know.

And then you reply with that when somebody DMs you the word.

That's how that's supposed to work.

[versed mason]

lol

[lone kernel]

[feral belfry]

[raw herald]

[modern garnet]

<@&456908176877551658> ?

[raw herald]

Boop

Gone

[hexed smelt]

@ember flume Please don't advertise outside of #self-promotion !

Anyway! As you were, folks :)

[feral belfry]

Do you like Sparrows

[oak ibex]

Oh, my precious Raphael: what did you do to your hair

[kind mason]

Flame Wheel Release … apart from them only showing up in Elysium, do you have any tips for finding one for the prophecy? It's literally the last thing of the last prophecy for me right now.

[last veldt]

It's just random.

Keep all your boon rolls for Elysium and collect as many keys as you can before you get there.

[kind mason]

I suppose they can also be found in the well at the end of elysium, even though they are pretty much useless at that point, right?

[last veldt]

Assuming you'll see 3 wells, roll each one twice.

I don't know

[kind mason]

mkay, thanks for your responses 🙂

[last veldt]

They might exclude it from the final well.

[high island]

Nope.

Pretty sure it's not excluded.

[last veldt]

Does that well count as in Elysium? I guess so since it's before the cut scene.

[chrome wharf]

go on?

[high island]

||Who knows. ||

[lone kernel]

Idk, he just eats all her food and becomes gud with his level 40 himbo smash attack

[versed mason]

😳 😳

[lone snow]

how does charge shot work with beowulf?

[lone kernel]

turns it into Hera bow

with a shield until u shoot

i personally dont care for it unless im using dionysus cast and stygian but i am the minority on that take here

[chrome wharf]

If you use Hunter's Flare it's Base Bow At Home

[somber wasp]

Will the Poseidon boon that fully restores health work with lasting consequences 4?

[high island]

You probably mean Strong Drink, which is a boon from Lord Dionysus.

And no.

[somber wasp]

Oh yea my bad.

Dang, trying to cheese 32 heat lol

[chrome wharf]

the damage boost is still there at least

[feral belfry]

If so thay would definitely be the meta for all high heat

[finite lodge]

Master Dionysus is helpful when it comes to weakening enemies.

[lone kernel]

use meme beam ez

[high island]

No, it's Lady Aphrodite who weakens enemies.

[lone kernel]

Dionysus is basically poison

https://youtu.be/CGl1vVnFPsw @somber wasp watch this video

If u haven’t already

[feral belfry]

Chaos - ???

[high island]

No, he does Hangover. Satyrs and Gigantic Vermin do Poison.

[feral belfry]

Both do DOT

[high island]

Yeah, but one is purple and the other is green.

[feral belfry]

What happens if you combine them

[lone kernel]

fair enough

[lone kernel]

basically toxic from pokemon

https://tenor.com/view/toxic-music-video-britney-spears-britney-britney-toxic-britney-spears-toxic-gif-22171945

[honest snow]

What is everyone's favourite weapon? I've only cleared twice so far, once on sword and once on fists. For me fists feel the best but I feel like I might be in the minority.

[feral belfry]

Damn beat me to it

Wrong music video tho

[feral belfry]

Bow

[lone kernel]

bow, but the answer to this question is pretty varied and spread out. my brother agrees that the fists are the best

his heat record on fists higher than mine

[empty pelican]

mix between bow and shield but I'm more inclined to say bow since I've got almost 2x the clears on bow than I do with shield

[lone snow]

i like gun

i hate hate hate shield

[brisk trail]

hello, for the duoboon of athena/ares, is there any requirements except special from one and attack from the other one?

[green dove]

good evening. I'm playing on PS5 and I'd like to know if it is possible to save scum to get Asterius as a miniboss (instead of Soul Catcher)

[feral belfry]

No

[feral belfry]

No

[old tapir]

those are the requirements, there aren't any others. if you have both and are not being offered it, it's probably just bad rng; you can improve your chances by avoiding qualifying for any other athena or ares duos

[brisk trail]

how am I not getting it for like 7 tries in a row

[feral belfry]

It's hard to get, especially if you have combos for other duos

[old tapir]

bad rng. both of the times I've tried to get it, i didn't get it until styx lmaooo

[feral belfry]

I once went for a zeus build and used his keepsake in tartarus and he didn't drop again for the entire run

Sometimes RNG be like that

[brisk trail]

whats a good duo with zeus?

[feral belfry]

He has many

Smouldering air

Lighting rod

[brisk trail]

lmao name the gods

i jever remember the name

never

[feral belfry]

https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Duo_Boons

[green dove]

Just to clarify: the content of that door is pre-defined once I enter in the room? Not when I properly enter the door?

[feral belfry]

I believe that is correct

Someone here with 1k hours might correct me tho

[green dove]

all right. Thank you (:

[static wigeon]

best weapon to use in the game?

[brisk trail]

FISTS

[lone kernel]

The only save scumming possible is first room seed, meaning you can see the rarity and type of boons you’ll get in room one and swap keepsakes to get, say, an epic special in room one from the god u want. No real easy way to save scum in a beneficial way beyond that

[brisk trail]

on the fists, should I add ares to special or attack?

[feral belfry]

Bow

Attack

[sonic mango]

Zeus Shield is my goto fun weapon

throw it and spam attacks, mix it with Curse of Pain/Special inflicts Doom

my fav

[chrome reef]

Spear

[south sapphire]

Spear too op ngl

[spice hearth]

Beowulf is probably my favorite overall, big bulky casts are the best

[somber wasp]

So I can't summon Meg against Meg? sad

[rapid forum]

yep, that's like telling her to commit sudoku

[narrow hemlock]

lets not word it that way

its as simple as they cannot be in two places at once, which they have voice lines saying as much

[lone kernel]

sudoku lmao

yeah I prob wouldn’t kick my brother’s ass

Meg is the same

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-turn-your-back-on-family-you-cant-walk-away-from-family-you-cant-leave-family-behind-you-cant-ignore-family-you-cant-disregard-family-gif-16058425

[chrome wharf]

Hades, always looking across the lake in the surface arena:

[plucky minnow]

hello. i've been playing hades since beta versions. and im here to ask will there be another major update in the future? added stories? or perhaps a dlc? really addicted to the game looking forward to new stuffs

[spice hearth]

Nope, if you check #hades-patch-notes, SGG is pretty much done developing for the game at this point

they've never really done major DLC for any of their games iirc

[versed mason]

mmmm achilles spear zoom

[dusk turtle]

the game really loves me today

I chose aspect of chiron, then got Demeter special, then got Concentrated Volley, then got Support Fire, then got Special dmg boost from Chaos

[empty pelican]

does high voltage, double strike, splitting bolt etc work on Zeus attack?

[rapid forum]

zeus t2 boons (high voltage, double strike etc.) work on any core zeus boons

attack, special, cast, dash

[last veldt]

High voltage is about bolt range isn't it?

[reef zodiac]

Double strike and high voltage do not work for Lightning Strike

[last veldt]

And attack is chain lightning

Right, I thought not.

[reef zodiac]

Yeah chain lightning and splitting bolt do

[last veldt]

They are very careful with wording for these and the codex shows the prerequisites.

Can't get high voltage until you have something the does a strike etc.

I sometimes take Zeus special just to get things like double strike if I'm going for scintillating feast, since getting scintillating feast on its own won't unlock double strike.