#h1-discussion

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smoky vigil
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Hera's bow tho zagluv

raw herald
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Eris stinky

devout terrace
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Not really tbh

mint coral
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beo/hera/achilles being forgotten dusa

grizzled barn
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tis joke frens

devout terrace
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Yeah its pretty good

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Nice bait

brisk trail
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true!!

twin thistle
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it aint really thanthink

grizzled barn
whole comet
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a certain person would call for her crocodile...

brisk trail
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LMAO

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LMAO

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wait dio

hexed ice
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Hello everyone, I haven’t read any guides before I play the game so I bought all lounge renovations before Dusa locked. Will I miss her companion or any further stories? Anything I can do at this point? Thanks!

whole comet
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it would be fine, just keep talking to her

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though, when it comes to gifting

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if she's your favorite, i suggest gift her as priority first to max heart b4 others

mint coral
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did the meg set up to hit all of witches and forgot dc 1 bouldy

raw herald
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It’s still doable

abstract shuttle
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where I can learn all the abbreviations that are used regularly here?

raw herald
raw herald
mint coral
raw herald
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True

mint coral
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also forgot of dc1 until i used meg anyways dusa

raw herald
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Another reason to use Beowulf

gray apex
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Unless Em4

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Then it's not too cursed

twin thistle
gray apex
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lol

twin thistle
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died to dad residentzag

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Im really bad at not getting hit by him with sword

raw herald
twin thistle
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meanwhile not even using my sd at champs bouldy

raw herald
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Should have just done 52 heat HS0

gray apex
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rip

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hs is free until you hit a trap

raw herald
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All you need is 100% dodge

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(That’s the only way I’ve beat high heat em4)

mint coral
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dio call with purple RD kinda good

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no poms tho

twin thistle
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tbh could just sit and get smacked instead

gray apex
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I like that you can leave midway through

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trove tracker worth

twin thistle
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yeah lol, youd think you wouldn't be able to leave

gray apex
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Can you get bp2 enemies with those?

clever thicket
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how long did it take you guys to unlock the epilogue?

gray apex
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That's a tough question bouldy

twin thistle
clever thicket
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i didnt even know it existed (havent seen it yet) till a few days ago

twin thistle
clever thicket
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ive got 57 attempts and roughly 60 hours played, and I don't think I'm anywhere close to unlocking it

mint coral
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got an almost no hit heroes fight dusa only 1 accorn charge used

gray apex
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I was gonna do Mirrorless Guan Yu

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Regretted it real fast

clever thicket
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hehe

gray apex
brisk trail
gray apex
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Can't be that bad

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right?

mint coral
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cursed pool of purging
hyper sprint/RD/thunder flourish
d.strike/RD/smoldering air
last roll went CoN/crush shot/RD again

gray apex
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what aspect heat

mint coral
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32 zeus

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just threw crush shot

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still glad i saved those rolls tho

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was with like 7 of them for sometime in aspho/ely dusa

gray apex
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Nice

clever thicket
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(correct me if I'm wrong) epilogue requirements is to get max affections with olympian gods, right?

mint coral
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now i just want to sell the dumb drunken dash i picked bouldy

gray apex
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Yes

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Not all of them

mint coral
twin thistle
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not max though. only need 6th heart

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except for demeter which is 5th

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forget if its 5 or 6 you need to reach that for

clever thicket
mint coral
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sacks are kind today 🙏

twin thistle
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or maybe its 6-7

clever thicket
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Quote from the fandom wiki:
Affinity Requirements
SPOILERS: This section describes how many Olympians you need to raise affinity with and to what level.

Six of the following are required:

Zeus at 7 hearts
Poseidon at 7 hearts
Athena at 7 hearts
Aphrodite at 7 hearts
Artemis at 7 hearts
Ares at 7 hearts
Dionysus at 7 hearts
Hermes at 8 hearts
Demeter at 6 hearts

whole comet
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pretty sure i got it after 70-80 attempt

mint coral
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no hit dad fight bouldy

gray apex
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32 heat streaking

whole comet
clever thicket
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ye ive done that

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all ive left to do is unlocking the 7th hearts

whole comet
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then u might wanna look up their 7th unlock requirement

torn vault
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I got a diamond from Sunken Treasure!

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Only like the 5th time I've taken that boon haha

clever thicket
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any tips for doing hitless lernie? (EM)

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I ALWAYS take damage there

gray apex
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practice

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cant think of anything else

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don't stand in lava I guess

twin thistle
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just do the ultra instinct

gray apex
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yea that's a good tip right there

twin thistle
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😎

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having a lot of dps helps

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and not a melee weapon

gray apex
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ngl a ton of my runs die to lernie

twin thistle
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high heat lernie harder than champs residentzag

devout terrace
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just take tooth

gray apex
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oke

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sword 45 time

twin thistle
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no god keepsake hurts shadegrief

gray apex
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Well

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Better than dying

twin thistle
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also true

devout terrace
twin thistle
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just get the boons dusa

devout terrace
gray apex
devout terrace
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just give me epic aphrodite attack and im fine

gray apex
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It's actually nemesis I already died to hades twice

devout terrace
gray apex
devout terrace
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my vods are good examples of what you should be doing

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I think?

gray apex
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i'll do that when I attempt 50, for now I pray for Merciful end

devout terrace
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(also open for a review)

gray apex
twin thistle
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till get ME without rd or impending

grizzled barn
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hypnos seeing zagreus come back from the pool of blood

gray apex
mint coral
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does destroying dc blue hearts prevents fiery presence or nah?

gray apex
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no

mint coral
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could you stick a cast then to destroy it, activate boiling blood and hit with FP active then?

twin thistle
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ya

mint coral
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fun

gray apex
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Technically I won already

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nvm

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I got rekt

lone kernel
gray apex
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@devout terrace Dash nova guide when

devout terrace
mint coral
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sword hammers moment

devout terrace
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I refuse

twin thistle
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dash nova is gaming

gray apex
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this is so stupid lol

twin thistle
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elysium moment

mint coral
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peak elysium moment

gray apex
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peak gaming

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right here

twin thistle
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lmao

gray apex
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I think the best strat

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Is to give up

twin thistle
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F

gray apex
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yep

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ded

devout terrace
brisk trail
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does ranking up do anything ?

twin thistle
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just cosmetic

calm zenith
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Dash nova + cod might work?

clever thicket
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the chats when you pickup a boon that progress affinity, can they only happen once a run per god?

torn vault
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So uh

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I just cleared a room for an obol reward

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The obol was rimmed in a tealish light and gave me 200 instead of 100. I have never seen this before.

mint coral
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was an erebus gate?

torn vault
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Dont even have those unlocked yet so

twin thistle
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styx?

torn vault
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Yes its in styx...but I swear they've only been 100 before.

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Is it cuz it was a miniboss?

twin thistle
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miniboss yeah

mint coral
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yup

torn vault
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Huh. Neat.

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Learn something new in hades every day.

twin thistle
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double poms/obol and boons more likely rare/epic

gray apex
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Health also 50

mint coral
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double heart rewards are blessed

abstract shuttle
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Heat 7 death

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sadge xD

gray apex
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Rip

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You’ll get there

barren mulch
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Hey, a question about head runs, do i earn titan blood every time for farming?

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Or Just first kill m

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Or always random?

twin thistle
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the reward order is the same as no heat

barren mulch
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But Do i get every head run.

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?

abstract shuttle
twin thistle
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basically you start with a heat gauge of 1. you have to add heat to reach either 1 heat or higher than 1 heat then you can get rewards from each boss once at that heat level. a full clear at heat lvl 1 or higher unlocks the rewards for heat lvl 2 and so on

barren mulch
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Ah ok thx

twin thistle
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uh and yeah each weapon has their own individual progression for heat lvls

barren mulch
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And aspect 😆

twin thistle
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like a clear with a full heat gauge with the sword will unlock the next set of rewards for only the sword

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not aspects

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like a zag sword or nemesis sword both count towards the same progression for the sword

abstract shuttle
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in the heat menu only mention the base weapon, aspects dont matter sadly :(

barren mulch
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Ah ok

cerulean bough
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does anyone have the heavy mix of "Out of Tartarus" that plays when you fight Meg? it's absolutely epic

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11/8 ancient greek metal is catchier than I anticipated

cerulean bough
plush eagle
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Does curse of vengeance work with holy shield when you have merciful end?

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Because if so that’s a guaranteed doom proc on everyone around you every time you take damage

twin thistle
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mostly since holy shield doesnt hit in a very large radius

plush eagle
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Omg guys I’m at asterius at 11:47.06 IGT

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Is this good for someone with only one win? What am I on pace for? I think this is my fastest run so far

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And I took meme hammers to fill out prophecies 😭

twin thistle
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like asterius miniboss?

plush eagle
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Yeah

twin thistle
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what chamber?

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number

plush eagle
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Not sure

twin thistle
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it shows if you bring up the boon list

plush eagle
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Ah sec

twin thistle
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in the top right corner

plush eagle
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Chamber 31, heat 1

twin thistle
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like 18-22 minutes ig in that range

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depends on styx rng

plush eagle
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True, I’m gonna try to speed run Styx and avoid spending too much time there. I’ve got 570 coin saved up so I don’t need to do any farming for Charon’s final shop

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Just beat Asterius. 12:46.88

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Holy cow

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Praying he drops merciful end

plush eagle
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Feelsbadman

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No ME yet, still

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But I did get impending doom at least

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Omg

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I’m stupid

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I literally just unlocked that

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I forgot I’ve had that this whole run

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Next ares or Athena for sure I’ll get it

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I’ll farm a tunnel if I have to

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That’s true

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I rolled once

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Still no ME

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This run could have been so glorious

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But I took meme hammers anyway so it was never going to be that amazing. It might still turn out to be better than my first win

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At this point I’m focused less on time and more with securing my second victory

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Already up to 14:37.23 and no ME. No bueno

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Heroes vanquished, 17:32.93. Yeah this run is dead lmao. I cleared the first 2 regions with my best time at least tho. And at heat 1, nonetheless. So I think I’m getting better.

modern pollen
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how many bonds do i need for queens plan

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cause i have 6 so far and the other ones seem like they'll be really hard to get

plush eagle
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Phase 2 Hades HERE WE GO

mint coral
plush eagle
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AYEEEE

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DUB NUMERO DOS

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First time with Varatha too

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Time to post both of them. I forgot to post the first one earlier

high island
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Congratulations! courte5AphroHeart courte5DusaBond

plush eagle
high island
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Oh and you can set your roles in #bot-commands.

plush eagle
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Posted 😄

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My short-term goal is sub-20

high island
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@plush eagle this video is not perfectly up to date with the current meta anymore, but I think it can help you a lot with getting better clear times. https://youtu.be/z3Mmoo4oTKU

YouTube
Wriste13
Speedrunning Basics: Mirror, Heat, Builds, and More

I hope you found this guide useful. I intend to put out other more advanced guides, including ones for specific weapons such as Beowulf. All links mentioned in the video are listed below, as well as timestamps. Any questions I'm happy to answer in the comments or on Twitch!

This was streamed at: https://www.twitch.tv/wriste13.
A written version...

▶ Play video
plush eagle
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Thank you. I believe I started that vid one night and fell asleep midway through because it was late, but I definitely plan on revisiting

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Atm I’m more concerned with getting better at the game and consistently beating Hades and increasing Heat

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I’d like to max out my preferred aspects before I go for actually decent times

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Although idk if I’ll actually ever get a “decent” time by community standards

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I’ve never been a speedrunner or anything

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This is actually my first roguelike

high island
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Yeah, just focus on your own progress. You'll get there eventually.

plush eagle
high island
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Yes.

plush eagle
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That seems insane to me

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Tiny Vermin takes forever

high island
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Well, maybe not if your DPS is bad and you're unfamiliar with the fights. But generally yes.

plush eagle
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Well I guess I need to git gud then

high island
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Tiny Vermin is typically slower than the other minibosses but still faster than the other tunnels.

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You also haven't unlocked summons yet, that will speed up minibosses quite a bit.

plush eagle
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True

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I need to get on that gifting

high island
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The most important thing is that you give everything you own and your life to Lady Aphrodite. courte5AphroHeart courte5DusaBond

dusky wedge
plush eagle
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Ahhhh

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That makes sense

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There aren’t spawn-ins on the tiny vermin fight?

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I thought it spawned those big rats

high island
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Good builds can also just kill the miniboses in like a couple seconds.

dusky wedge
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There are, depending on how long you took to kill the tiny vermin

high island
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You only need to kill Tiny Vermin, the ads are irrelevant.

plush eagle
plush eagle
dusky wedge
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I’ll say, good builds can really carry a player, ngl lol

high island
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Not really. You don't need to be a good player to load your Casts into Beowulf and do 1-2 Dragon Rushes.

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You just need a build powerful enough to kill them with just 1-2 Dragon Rushes.

dusky wedge
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But, I’ll also say good builds are built by skill as well though, so there’s that

high island
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Unless somebody guides you through a build, yeah.

dusky wedge
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I guess we can call that “inspiration” lol shadesmile

rapid forum
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hyper wind delivery is very pog

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it helped my slicing flare build beo significantly

plush eagle
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Does rush kick work with Demeter fists?

rapid forum
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yes, it will hit multiple times

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although rush kick is a bit finnicky

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you can make it work

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just clunky

calm zenith
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Probably best on gilgamesh

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Because you can kinda fly with them

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Which lets you speed up maim application I guess?

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I've done it but I don't think it's like better than anything

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Its fun

rapid forum
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iirc

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animation for flying kick dash upper and flying kick special is almost the same

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unlike normal dash upper and special

plush eagle
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Just recorded my fastest bone hydra at 10:37.48! Using rare nemesis blade with dash nova + rare swift flourish

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And that’s after defeating Charon, which was much slower than just going quickly through his shop lmao

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It was my first chance to do it so I had to try

high island
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Nice nice. Getting closer to sub 10 pace.

plush eagle
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I just got double edge EZ

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Now all I need is merciful end because I have epic doom attack and Athena dash already

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Just got epic divine flourish. This is the run

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There’s no chance ME doesn’t drop this time

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I’m starting to get better at ending the fight closer to the door

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ME dropped at the last shop before the champions of Elysium 🙏🏼

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Elysium down at 16:49.57, how am I doing? Is sub 20 looking possible?

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If I get a good fountain roll in Styx?

high island
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Possible? Yes, in theory.

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Rule of thumb is generally that each biome takes about the same time.

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So the prediction would be like 22m ish, for you.

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Merciful End might help, though.

plush eagle
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Rare bronze skin, common brilliant riposte, or common Athena’s aid?

high island
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Athena's Aid if you're worried about getting the win.

plush eagle
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I feel like the safety of the call is a good option

high island
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Brilliant Riposte if you just want a better time.

plush eagle
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True

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Yeah I’ll go for the time, this is shaping up to be a great run and I don’t need the call if I play well

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I’m at 19:15.92 already smh. Had to take out 2 tunnels and still no fountain. The good news is, I got the call anyway.

high island
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But it's still decent improvement that you're getting times like this more consistently.

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Well, still gotta win.

plush eagle
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So unlucky, I have to clear every chamber. Still have the last one left and 21:51

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Rip

rapid forum
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it's ok bouldy

plush eagle
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183 doom damage with merciful end dusa

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Alright, starting Hades with 22:34.75 on the clock. Wish me luck

high island
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I think you'll probably not get a sub 20 this run.

fast willow
high island
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Just instinct from 1.2k hours of experience.

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It's like.. not really a skill that normal people can learn.

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It's experience and natural talent.

plush eagle
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24:11.55

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What a run

rapid forum
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not bad

high island
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That's three wins?

plush eagle
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I think that may have been my fastest Hades

high island
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Time to get number 4.

plush eagle
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Yup, shield is probably gonna be my next win

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And then I’ll have one of each melee

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I would have killed him way faster if I used my ultra Athena cast at the end 🙃

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But I was going so ham with the ME procs lmao

high island
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With a good speedrun build, you actually don't really care about getting hit by Hades anymore.

fast willow
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just facetank with eris clockets and only get hit twice anyways since he dies so fast bouldy

high island
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Yeah, basically even if he hits you every time, you kill him faster than he can kill you.

plush eagle
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I just calculated it, and if my numbers are correct, I killed hades in 1:37.8

rapid forum
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nice

plush eagle
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What’s a fast time to kill him? A minute?

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Less?

high island
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A minute is pretty slow in speedruns.

plush eagle
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Holy

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I need to watch some speed runs clearly

high island
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Depends on the aspect, though. My average with Hera is 47 seconds, I think.

plush eagle
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Has someone killed him in under 30 seconds?

fast willow
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i think my best is about 55~ sec with clockets eris

twin thistle
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a minute is like a normal run thanthink. gud speedrun times can get it down to 30

high island
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Yeah, the top speedruns are pretty much all sub 30 seconds.

plush eagle
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Omg

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That’s insane

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They can’t miss a single backstab

rapid forum
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I don't even time my hades fight

plush eagle
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There’s no way they can mess up positioning for even a single dash

twin thistle
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eh its not backstab reliant

rapid forum
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they're all buffed up hades dusa

twin thistle
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half of it is busted builds

high island
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It's not really about backstabs. It's mainly about just having very high DPS and getting lucky with Hades not immediately going invisible or anything like that because that always wastes time.

rapid forum
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I just try to survive

twin thistle
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a lot of the time you use fiery presence for speedruns anyways

plush eagle
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I think I’ll reach sub-10 hydra soon

rapid forum
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in all honesty, you'll get far

lone kernel
plush eagle
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This is the only game where I care about my times lol

lone kernel
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speedruns can get insane

plush eagle
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I used to care about Astro’s playroom until I saw actual speedruns and noped out

high island
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Just turn on Tight Deadline 3 for your next runs.

lone kernel
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but i'm a regular guy who got it down to 12 min

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and you can too

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TD3 Gym

potent falcon
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I've always been a story guy tbh lol

lone kernel
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get in the habit of taking free rooms

twin thistle
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mhm. it comes with experience, something you dont have a huge amount of being in your early runs

potent falcon
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I enjoy the various blue people and what they have to say

tranquil wren
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are there not voice channels? I was gonna hop in and stream some hades sadCat

plush eagle
high island
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No voice channels, no.

potent falcon
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There are a lot of blue ppl in this game btw

twin thistle
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you can put at least tight deadline 1 or 2

high island
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No, do Tight Deadline 3.

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5 minutes per biome. Pretty sure you'll get sub 20 if you just go for it.

twin thistle
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thats one way to get a bit of encouragement

plush eagle
potent falcon
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The shades are grayish I think

plush eagle
high island
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You don't miss out on rewards.

rapid forum
twin thistle
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if you do a heat higher than your gauge it just counts it as if you did the minimum heat filling the gauge

plush eagle
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Zag told me himself “I’ll do myself no good stacking these if it’s bounties I’m after”

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I’d rather do them tier by tier

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And then I’ll get better as it gets harder

rapid forum
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fair enough

high island
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Zag is just scared of having TD3 fun.

potent falcon
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Hypnos, Meg, Theseus, Sisyphus. All blue. And Poseidon has a tint to him

twin thistle
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tbh its easier just doing 3 heat with tight deadline 2 than doing 2 heat with td1 and some other 1 heat pact

potent falcon
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Wait maybe sisyphus is grey too

calm zenith
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Sub 20 isnt too hard

high island
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Everyone is blue it you use a blue screen filter.

plush eagle
twin thistle
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aint theseus more like bronzed or something

calm zenith
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Comes with experience of course

potent falcon
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He's got a bluish outline to him

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Nyx is more purple I think

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Or like a really really dark navy blue

plush eagle
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Man, I suck at rail so bad

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I just died at the champions over 23 mins in on heat 0 and didn’t even kill the bull

plush eagle
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Conversely, I just cleared Heat 1 Tartarus in 3:42.79 with Demeter lmao

high island
plush eagle
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I went for hunter blades lol

stiff musk
plush eagle
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But this game is going much better

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Demeter

stiff musk
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i find em2 easier than td2 if you just want to do a 3 heat run

plush eagle
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I have all I need to get merciful end and I just slayed the bone hydra at 7:35.86

stiff musk
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the first two bosses dont have an insane difficulty jump

plush eagle
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I’m over here lookin like a pro already 😂

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/s

twin thistle
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oh nvm demeter fists

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hunting blades seems a bit odd for rail

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for rail you want zeus attack with static discharge and tidal dash

rapid forum
twin thistle
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beyblades eris bouldy

plush eagle
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Omg

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I died to Theseus like 13 minutes in

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I didn’t get ME or additional death defiance charges

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Which I kinda banked on

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He was at like 25% health too smh

high island
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Yeah, for Rail start with Thunder Signet for Lightning Strike, then take Conch Shell into Asphodel for Tidal Dash.

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And you also really want Static Discharge.

plush eagle
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I used my greater ares call and he immediately decided to go invulnerable for the full duration

high island
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Then put all your poms in Dash and maybe 1-2 in Static Discharge.

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You can fire your Special at the same time you press Reload, so just do both at the same time.

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If you're playing on pad, I'd recommend remapping your Reload button to LB/L1.

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Some people use LT/L2 instead. But basically all the best rail players remap their Reload button.

rapid forum
high island
rapid forum
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no

high island
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Yeah, I stand by what I said. dusa

rapid forum
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I'm not a good rail player dusa

high island
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Maybe you're the best rail player of all the rail players who don't remap Reload. dusa

rapid forum
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there's prob only 5 of us dusa

plush eagle
rapid forum
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oh you'll use L2, but as of now, you don't need it

plush eagle
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Ah that’s summon

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I’ll make that R3 instead

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A simple swap will do

rapid forum
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don't be like me

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I'm too far gone bouldy

plush eagle
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I also turned my dead zone all the way down since I have no stick drift and it feels much more responsive

potent mason
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Is it just me or is damage control for heat kind of pointless

#

As a fists user

raw herald
#

Pointless as in “why would you take it” or “why wouldn’t you take it”?

rapid forum
#

it's a free heat bouldy

potent mason
#

Why wouldn’t you take it

#

It could only be detrimental to bow and maybe shield

raw herald
#

It makes using your summons more difficult

#

It takes longer to kill enemies, meaning the timer is a bigger issue

potent mason
#

True

raw herald
#

Armoured enemies take more hits for them to be able to be hitstunned

potent mason
#

But it only is really irritating in Tartarus with the numbskulls

#

If they r armoured

raw herald
#

I’d say the only aspect that handles DC easily is Rama

modern garnet
#

imagine if every individual butterfly of a butterfly ball had DC armor

rapid forum
#

flame wheels say hi

potent mason
#

That would haunt me

raw herald
#

Imagine if tiny rats could be armoured

#

Therefore could get the DC perk

potent mason
#

Stop

rapid forum
#

a little splash dash will do the work

high island
plush eagle
#

Got another sub-10 hydra, this time with sword

#

Heat 3

high island
#

Nice.

#

When is sub 3 Hydra at Heat 10?

twin thistle
#

i got summon on r3 dusa

plush eagle
#

I died to the champions again but this time it was unlucky

#

I took a chaos boon where I lost health every time I used attack and I was doing fine using my special but I literally got the boon at the beginning of Elysium (sold off a boon to summon chaos) and the 4th encounter was the final boss lmao

#

So I couldn’t even use my attack against them

twin thistle
#

well you chose that boon didnt you?

plush eagle
#

I shouldn’t have gone to the shop at the end but I had no idea it was the last shop already

devout terrace
#

Theres 2 shops in every biome

#

1 shop is your "midshop"

#

Can be missed

plush eagle
#

Yeah but I wasn’t paging Attention

devout terrace
#

2nd shop is always there

plush eagle
#

I was in speedrunner mode “always go shop” because of the heat level when I had like, 7 minutes to spare

#

But it’s 3 AM so I’m bound to make mistakes like that lmao I need sleep

devout terrace
high island
last veldt
#

One more run and I'll never earn another Titan blood again!

thin bramble
#

Trying hell mode for the first time... pain

last veldt
#

I should try that before I put the game to bed for a while.

fast willow
#

breaking wave is so broken in Styx tunnels

#

I finished 2sack Styx tunnels (not including dad) in under a minute thanks to it

#

I know that's probably slow for high level speedruns but pretty good for me

devout terrace
#

Not bad at allzagluv

astral walrus
fast willow
#

i swear the odds are way lower than 50% on perfect catch

chrome wharf
#

The Styx legendary fish? Oh you mean the Scuffer?

hexed ice
#

Hey friends, how do I unlock Aphrodite? I saw wiki said that in relationship with Dusa/Meg AND Than can do, but other guides said Dusa/Meg OR Than should work too. Kinda confused here. Thanks!

wary cypress
wary cypress
brisk trail
#

Thing

#

Just get lucky and hope the conversation pops up

#

Alright

mint coral
#

you need to have a fish with you to trigger the dialogue too

#

so dont give them to the shade in the lounge

brisk trail
#

So that means we all got it by accident bouldy

chrome wharf
#

I got Poseidon's bond without even trying in my 1st file

brisk trail
#

dusa so sexy bruh

devout terrace
potent falcon
#

We found the reason why they added her as a romance option

rare gust
#

Found this image of Zagreus t-posing when performing the Sparking Nova early in development

brisk trail
#

This is historic

#

For the first time ever

#

I received the same boons twice after reroll

#

Just one is rare instead of common

strong ridge
timid dew
#

What conditions do you suggest for heat 16 on beo? I only ever played until heat 8

raw herald
#

Tight deadline 1/2/3, middle management, extreme measures

clever thicket
#

I've done the ares prophecy that allows you to unlock the 7th heart, however after talking with him in5 different runs I still haven't unlocked it. Am I missing something or am I just having bad luck?

timid dew
gray apex
#

No

#

EM3 is enough

#

EM4 is tough

timid dew
#

Ok. I still don't get to 16

gray apex
#

You can go for this and add one more point

#

Or if you can do FO1

brisk trail
#

Damn FO?

gray apex
#

Why not

#

Make it spicy

brisk trail
#

Would CP not be less noticeable

timid dew
mint coral
#

CP sucks bouldy

gray apex
#

CP2 is a big no no

brisk trail
#

Lol I always play cp2

#

Call me crazy I know

gray apex
#

CP can give you time issues, and it also gives everything more time to hit you since you technically need more work to kill them

#

crazy

potent falcon
#

Bouldy boss fight when

brisk trail
#

It's not a boss fight

#

He falls

#

You get hit

#

You die

#

T H E R E I S N O E S C A P E

potent falcon
#

lyre riff plays

clever thicket
gray apex
#

I would say its rng but not too sure tbh

brisk trail
#

Pretty sure you just get lucky

#

Wait that's his quest right?

#

I'm pretty sure that triggers instantly

#

Try using his keepsake at the run start

gray apex
#

You might just have a lot of dialogue to go through, should get it eventually

brisk trail
#

I've said it and I'll say it again

#

Eris

#

B U S T E D

last veldt
#

Bouldy just killed me! Summoned it in Dad fight just as Dad summoned a pot next to me shadegrief

brisk trail
#

Rip

thin bramble
#

Bouldy said you weren’t worthy enough

polar marsh
#

Bouldy based best rocko

abstract shuttle
#

guys whats the name of the melody that plays when dying while reaching Persephone after beating Hades?

shadow quarry
#

how do people do 1k dps

abstract shuttle
#

oh is called On The Coast great soundtrack :v

strong ridge
shadow quarry
brisk trail
#

blade rifts maybe?

strong ridge
#

like zeus eris smoldering

brisk trail
#

wait 1k per second?

shadow quarry
#

i mean just a hellton of damage

#

not specifically 1k per second

strong ridge
#

smoldering air + poseidon or dio or zeus call

strong ridge
#

there’s also just a lot of busted builds in the game

shadow quarry
#

i saw 8k damage per second on the reddit

strong ridge
#

ya

polar marsh
#

Drunken fists build lel

strong ridge
#

if you get bad news trippy flare mirage ||hidden shield aspect|| you’ll do around like 5k a shot

devout terrace
#

btw

#

bad news is global

#

the thing thats supposed to make it not global

#

isnt in the code

clever thicket
#

is it true that hermes cant appear in tartarus?

devout terrace
#

in the midshop

fast willow
#

wait global to the enemy or global as long as fog is on screen

devout terrace
#

and if you take a chamber 12 chaos/erebus gate

#

then he can be in those exits too

fast willow
#

oh wait just passive global?

devout terrace
#

aslong as you dont have a cast lodged

#

wait about blackout?

fast willow
#

oh wait nvm I confused bad news and blackout

devout terrace
#

bad news and blackout are both global damage

#

bad news is NOT supposed to be global damage

#

but it is bouldy

fast willow
#

well that would be helpful to me except bad news never wants to show up bouldy

devout terrace
#

take plume into asphodel

#

and god's legacy

#

plume is a pre req

#

you should get it eventually with some rolls

fast willow
devout terrace
#

rush delivery

#

and auto reload

#

wait I mixed that up

#

lemme check the codex bouldy

#

100% sure on auto reload

#

plume also opens rush delivery btw

#

ye

#

its just auto reload and plume

fast willow
#

oh

#

I didn't realize it was limited to just autoreload from his boons

devout terrace
#

plume with god's legacy is an easy way to force it basically

fast willow
#

and I only use plume on meme dodge builds

#

so makes sense that I haven't seen it

devout terrace
#

but rare+ rush delivery on the 1st hermes into hyper sprint on 2nd hermes boon is stronger

#

since its more global damage

#

so pick and choose

clever thicket
#

Is the epilogue the final ''main story'' thing?

brisk trail
#

Yep

polar marsh
#

Hope u gave out nectar and some ambrosia to everyone cause it will be a grind later if u didn't do it early

brisk trail
#

^^

clever thicket
#

yeah

#

honestly was kinda dissapointed it took a decent bit to unlock but not having more dialogue

#

oh well, needed it for 100% anyway

green dune
#

Anyone have an 8bitdo pro 2 controller? I have a problem with vibration on nintendo switch.

calm zenith
#

There is an epilogue

#

It's fairly long depending

abstract shuttle
#

damn I suck with bow

pure frigate
#

Bow be my least favorite of the weapons

lone kernel
#

Bow is hard until you git gud

pure frigate
#

Unless you get the one that makes it so that you don't have to charge the dang thing

lone kernel
#

not the weapon most get their first win with

pure frigate
#

My 1st was with shield

#

Then Arthur

astral walrus
#

250+ hours in the game

astral walrus
#

on the outside

twin thistle
#

i just got a sturgeon residentzag

#

finally completed fish codex for the second time

astral walrus
#

i can be proud of myself perhaps

astral walrus
lone kernel
astral walrus
#

actually catching voidskate was harder for me

#

that was the last fish i caught to fill out codex

astral walrus
lone kernel
#

I meant more if you were new

#

But still pretty based

astral walrus
#

my the first win was with zag sword lol

#

i was pretty hyped about that bonus attack speed back when i didn't know better

lone kernel
#

Win’s a win

gray apex
#

Mine was with the Spear

astral walrus
#

i start to appreciate spear more and more recently

#

the only useless move on it is spin attack, but that's get taken away if you pick up flurry

#

the preferred weapon of Achilles himself, for it's reach and versatility, as he wrote

#

and he is right

#

i also noticed that it's easy to cancel projectiles with spear

#

very helpful on witches circle encounters

#

now about bows and getting gud

#

probably not with chiron

chrome wharf
#

don't start an attack while standing. dash attacks charge up faster

astral walrus
#

ahah, thanks for advice

twin thistle
#

standing attacks are bouldy

astral walrus
#

my first clear on fresh file was with the bow, with only half upgraded mirror

#

so i like to think that i'm good with the bow

#

it was hera of course

twin thistle
#

a half upgraded mirror for a first clear is pretty standard ngl

astral walrus
#

yeah maybe

#

thick skin and at least 2 dds are enough i guess

#

and +2 casts of course for hera

twin thistle
#

looking at the build it was also rather above standard

brisk trail
#

bows are just getting into the shooting rythm once you got that its quite easy I think

astral walrus
brisk trail
#

rama is a bit wierder bc you got bigger charge time so its a bit trickier

gray apex
#

My first hell mode clear was bow

astral walrus
#

didn't get around to it yet, barely used it actually

#

but hera is so good i don't know why would anyone want rama except for a change

twin thistle
#

its the best bow at high heat by a mile

brisk trail
#

rama is cracked for heat yea

gray apex
#

lol

#

Try Hera at 50 heat

brisk trail
#

hera falls off so hard its not even funny

gray apex
#

It's one of the worst yea

brisk trail
#

but for speedsters hera is the way to go

devout terrace
#

Hera 50 was absurdly difficult for me

#

The way I did it was starting Aphrodite attack and just getting whatever cast

twin thistle
#

turn it into scuffed zag bow. ez

devout terrace
#

I ended up getting phalanx shot which is quite good actually, a few poms and even got a death defiance

#

All on AP2bouldy

gray apex
#

Time for a Rama sub7

#

The usual

devout terrace
#

I really like rama, but I dont think I can go fast on it

whole comet
#

if someone can do 60 heat with Rama, u can too, in theory 😄

gray apex
#

Yes

#

in theory

#

But when it comes to reality bouldy

devout terrace
whole comet
#

well there r things that's not proven yet, like 64 heat with fist

wary cypress
gray apex
#

Probably will never be proven lol

whole comet
#

even Chiron?

stuck sentinel
#

Honestly Hera has always felt kinda janky whenever I try and use it

abstract shuttle
#

me ragequitting with rama in heat 0 shadeembarassed

wary cypress
#

I'm just too slow on the bow and prefer the spear, fists, and rails for speed.

chrome wharf
#

Chiron is somehow my worst bow

gray apex
#

its very unlikely that any aspect clears 64 heat other than zeus, atleast for the time being

whole comet
#

i wonder if anyone even attempts with other aspects at this point

raw herald
#

It may be attempted but it’s not feasible

#

Zeus is just so good

gray apex
#

Even Zeus timed out multiple times

#

That just leaves almost no room for things like Chiron

#

Rama loses second dash

#

Beo loses casts

#

Too much to deal with

whole comet
#

oh my bad

whole comet
#

i wasn't meant to ask 64 heat with Chiron

#

that i also agree, seems highly unlikely

gray apex
#

Id love to see Routed 64 Heat Chiron

whole comet
#

dun think single dps weapons would work well lol

high island
#

Routed skips most normal encounters.

#

Chiron is excellent for boss fights.

gray apex
#

Yea you'd have very minimal fights outside of bosses

whole comet
#

then, any weapons would do fine?

raw herald
#

Chiron shreds em4 with minimal boons

brisk trail
#

jesus 32 heat is a struggle for me

raw herald
#

You need like 3

brisk trail
#

can anyone suggest a pact build for 32?

whole comet
#

i say post ur build

#

pact build

brisk trail
#

it's very weird ok

whole comet
#

or type it out,

brisk trail
#

like i use some weird ass heat modifiers

gray apex
#

what aspect

brisk trail
#

generic beowulf build

gray apex
#

Are you comfortable with FO2 or HS

brisk trail
#

fo1, and hs yes

#

fo2 is a hellscape for me

#

especially if the bp is speed up

whole comet
#

lol HS is always bad

gray apex
brisk trail
#

hs doesn't really bother

#

tartarus i basically never step on spike traps

#

asphodel is really only where it hurts cuz lava

signal aspen
#

you're fine with stepping in pots that deal 150 damage?

brisk trail
#

oh yeah

#

:/

#

forgot the hades fight

#

haha

#

🥲

gray apex
#

Just add one more HL

whole comet
#

and Styx the random traps poison also does more dmg

gray apex
#

It's shield

#

Just block

#

Don't take Charged shot

brisk trail
#

yeah i'm abusing block so hard

#

funny how my least fav weapon is taking me through 32

gray apex
#

Just dont time out

brisk trail
#

damn

gray apex
#

Yup

#

Take SD

signal aspen
#

its not that bad

gray apex
#

Heal with that

brisk trail
#

ah yeah

gray apex
#

Yea just some getting used to

brisk trail
#

never expected to see the day i use SD so soon

gray apex
#

If you get patty you'll have a lot of hp for bosses

#

assuming you get a 2 sack

brisk trail
#

assuming i have good luck bouldy

#

fates pls

brisk trail
#

how much heat am i missing without it

signal aspen
#

just go faster

gray apex
#

A lot

#

Lol

#

You dont have pacts that ruin your build so your dmg is gonna be really solid for bosses

#

Fights wont take that long

whole comet
#

btw

#

i personally would recommend CF2 as well

devout terrace
#

No

signal aspen
#

no

#

no cf

devout terrace
brisk trail
#

remebering what cf is

devout terrace
#

CF is horrible

gray apex
#

It's bad

whole comet
#

because buy less?

gray apex
#

Yes

brisk trail
#

ah

gray apex
#

A lot less

brisk trail
#

covenience fee

#

i always play with cf 1

devout terrace
#

Also ridiculously hard with UC

whole comet
#

but he would have dark foresigh

brisk trail
#

honestly it seems like the complete opposite of what i'd do heat-wise

#

but i will try it out

#

it'll probably be the winning factor

#

no JS?

#

it's like free heat tho

whole comet
#

u can just post ur heat pact

brisk trail
#

alright, be warned, it's super weird

#

but just what i'm used to

whole comet
#

it would be easier to advice u, i think

brisk trail
#

here's the last one

#

(don't laugh)

gray apex
#

EM4?

whole comet
#

as i thought, u got some that might be bad for beo

brisk trail
#

just what i'm good with

signal aspen
whole comet
#

well, u know Beo's really good at initial hit?

#

with 3 cast and charge

#

so DC2 is kinda terrible

signal aspen
#

em4, dc2, cp2, hl2, lc1, ap1, js3?

brisk trail
#

i said it was weird

#

i warned you

signal aspen
#

cf1?

#

td0?

brisk trail
whole comet
brisk trail
signal aspen
#

bruh go faster

chrome wharf
#

TD overrated

#

AP Activated

gray apex
#

Try the pact I mentioned

brisk trail
whole comet
#

not me lol

#

would not mind to go slow

stuck sentinel
#

What's your usual time?

signal aspen
#

and cp2

whole comet
#

but DC2, i suggest u take it out

signal aspen
#

thats why youre so slow

stuck sentinel
#

I don't believe you could be doing EM4 and not be faster than 36 min

chrome wharf
#

DC1 on Beo is not that horrific, since the attack and rush are 1 hit each and can get rid of them before the cast fires

brisk trail
#

20-28 @ around 20 heat

gray apex
#

You could easily go under 20 without JS and CP

stuck sentinel
#

you can definetly take td2 then

#

probably td3

brisk trail
#

rly?

#

if you guys say so then

chrome wharf
#

start with TD2 and see if you struggle

stuck sentinel
#

if your using a good pact 32 doesn't make you that much slower

chrome wharf
#

but don't do DC2 Beo unless you're really good

stuck sentinel
#

dc2 beo is why

signal aspen
#

and dc2

raw herald
#

And BP2

stuck sentinel
#

no reason to really take AP1 at 32

#

especially on beo

#

hestia can probably handle

whole comet
#

just to be sure

#

you have dark foresight?

brisk trail
#

yep

#

i kinda never play the gradual regen one

#

because i've spent the whole game grinding darkness

#

plus you can get tinge of darkness for healing as well as life essence

stuck sentinel
#

no

gray apex
#

Wrong upgrade

stuck sentinel
#

dark foresight is diff

signal aspen
#

you have dark foresight?

stuck sentinel
#

thats dark regen your thinking of

brisk trail
#

oh dark foresight whoops

gray apex
brisk trail
#

that's the one that gives you more gems and stuff?

whole comet
#

lol sure, once u're used to the game

brisk trail
#

on a specific weapon

whole comet
#

any mirror is fine

stuck sentinel
#

this is dark foresight

gray apex
#

this one

#

make it green

stuck sentinel
#

it is the only one you should be using for that slot

brisk trail
#

oh i see

#

i've never actually used that

#

ever lol

gray apex
#

Use it

#

Stonks

#

peak gaming

brisk trail
#

increases chance of seeing run-only enhancements huh

signal aspen
#

yeah

brisk trail
#

guess i'll have to redistribute my darkness

twin thistle
brisk trail
#

hello pineapple

twin thistle
#

hello

brisk trail
#

discussing everything that's wrong with my 32 heat runs

#

spoiler: it is everything

whole comet
#

there's no "wrong"

brisk trail
whole comet
#

just there's easier pact than that

twin thistle
#

bruh that pact is cursed

brisk trail
#

thats what they all say :((

stuck sentinel
#

redistribute the darkness

gray apex
brisk trail
stuck sentinel
#

it could be worse

gray apex
#

really

#

lol

chrome wharf
#

it could be RI2 or something

whole comet
#

like this?

signal aspen
#

bruh

stuck sentinel
#

could be this

whole comet
#

ugh

brisk trail
#

ow

#

i felt physical pain seeing that

#

AP2 at 32

twin thistle
brisk trail
#

what

signal aspen
#

be careful the bot is gonna mute you bouldy

brisk trail
#

was like

#

2 gifs

#

over 5 seconds

whole comet
#

how'd u guys post SS?

twin thistle
#

links

#

bot be like that

brisk trail
#

post it to a private server

#

right click > copy link

whole comet
#

in any case

#

some of us did try RI4 32 heat

gray apex
whole comet
#

but i dare say we were already familiar with 32 heat

signal aspen
#

i should do 32 mirrorless again

brisk trail
signal aspen
#

or maybe 40

#

or 45

#

or 50

brisk trail
#

the title shadeembarassed

gray apex
#

not me

stuck sentinel
#

you know what

#

im gonna try some ri4 hestia

chrome wharf
whole comet
chrome wharf
#

yeah

whole comet
#

guess i could look into that later

stuck sentinel
#

could also just dm it too someone

gray apex
#

damn perfect hammers too

chrome wharf
#

something something just get the skills

brisk trail
#

hammer luck is impossible luck

#

i wonder how the game would be different if you could roll hammers...

whole comet
#

i think it sux u can't reroll

#

AP2 could ruin ur day

chrome wharf
#

yup

#

Hazard Eris dusa

stuck sentinel
#

hazard cluster